The Sloppy Boys - 24. Aperol Spritz
Episode Date: April 2, 2021The guys try a bright orange aperitif born in Italy that's taken the world by storm.APEROL SPRITZ RECIPE3oz/90ml Prosecco2oz/60ml Aperol1oz/30ml Club SodaCombine all ingredients in a wine glass filled... with ice and stir. Garnish with orange.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys, where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love.
I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Mike Hanford.
Dutton, my man.
And Tim Kalpakis.
What is up?
And we're your hosts, the Sloppy Boys.
Hi Jeff. Hi Tim. What is up? And we're your hosts, the Sloppy Boys. Hi, Jeff. Hi, Tim.
What is up?
Wow, another episode.
Not only another episode, but get a load of this.
Spring has sprung.
Ooh, you don't say.
Yep.
It does have a way of doing that, don't it?
I don't know about you guys, but I've been spending most of my days, I put on
a white suit and I
walk into the park and I smell
flowers all day.
I pick a daisy and I raise it to my nostrils.
Ever seen these in about
six months, you'll say.
Well, in the winter
I was doing the same thing, but with snow.
But wearing
a white suit so people could see.
That snow smells beautiful.
Cupping a bunch of snow in your hands and bringing it to your lips.
You guys ever drink a Cronenberg 1664?
I'm drinking one of these right now.
Oh, yeah.
Good looking bottle.
Is it the beer by David Cronenberg?
Yeah.
Body horror auteur?
That guy's got problems, man.
Yeah, he's a little twisted.
I saw one of his movies once.
I was like, this guy's got problems.
I was saying that to the ticket taker on the way out.
That movie, that guy's got problems in there.
Did the ticket taker run in there?
No, he's like, well, do you want your money back?
I was like, no, no, but you got to warn people.
That guy's got problems. I'll tell you what I want is I want some of what that guy was smoking. Yeah, really? No, he's like, well, do you want your money back? I was like, no, no, but that got worn people. That guy's got problems.
What I want is I want some of what that guy was smoking.
Yeah, really? No, thanks.
I saw a movie recently called
Jeff, you saw it too. I believe it was called
Possessor.
Possessor by his son.
Yes. His son made it and it's
wild. I liked it a lot.
It's kooky. A little rough.
Hulu, right? You know, I don't recall. Well, people, lot, but it's kooky. A little rough. Hulu, right?
You know, I don't recall.
Well, people, you can find it if you want.
Possessor.
It's a scary thriller.
And then while you're doing it, get a Cronenberg 1664.
I don't know what this tastes like.
This is like a very, it's an imported from France beer,
and it's very Pilsner-y, and I don't mind it at all.
Pilsner-y.
Listen to this guy.
He's getting notes of Pilsner.
I'm getting notes.
I'm happy you like the 1664 because the 1665, dog shit.
The 1663 makes you want to spew.
It's not quite there.
It's not the 1664.
You guys want to get into news oh yeah hit it all right
oh danny boy i don't know if i like this call me
from glenn to glen
And down the mountain
The mountain side
The summer's gone
And all the roses
Fall in
Tis you
Tis you
Must go and I abide
All right, Jeff.
Beautiful.
That was sent to us by Andrew Pottle
and he was using a little audio
from when we forced Jeff to sing Danny Boy
without knowing how it goes.
Yeah, thanks, Daniel.
Wait, what's his name again?
Daniel.
Andrew Pottle.
Andrew Pottle.
Thanks, buddy.
Oh, I thought Jeff made that.
This I have to share.
That was really funny, Andrew.
I'm going to call that guy,
I'm going to call Andrew Daniel
for the rest of my damn life.
Knock it off.
You know, just some easy breezy
quick booze news today. One,
you know, Topo Chico
hard seltzers dropped. We talked about them.
They came out. That's how it goes. You know,
Mike, it's Coca-Cola. They're out.
You know, we're always talking seltzers here
so we don't have to do the biggest deep dive
but those are out if you want to go and
drink them. And
another thing on the seltzer front,
I had one that I liked called Hoppy Refresher by Lagunitas.
Have you guys had that?
Oh, I've heard of that.
No, I haven't had it.
Oh, I should clarify.
It's not hard.
It's a non-alcoholic.
The first non-alcoholic product of the modern era
that I thought was worthwhile.
It's a seltzer that's made with hops.
It's just kind of nice. It tastes like
you're having a little pine cone.
It's got like a little
bit of a beer-y taste?
Yeah, it has a little bit of an IPA
aftertaste and it's in a nice glass bottle
and it gives you a little bit of the vibe
of having a beer without having to have any alcohol.
It makes your breath kind of hoppy.
All right. I'll go for it.
Get on out there and check it out.
Now, Mike, I understand you had some booze news.
Yeah. Well, I got something a little different than booze news.
I'm introducing a new feature here on booze news.
It's booze news fun facts.
I've got a little fun fact thing.
But, you know, our guys put together some, our team, whoever, puts together a little opening package for Booze News Fun Facts, and I'll launch into it.
Booze News Fun Facts.
Because facts are fun.
Brought to you by Apple TV+.
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Whoa.
Okay, this is Booze Do's Fun Facts.
You have such a big sponsor for this segment that me and Jeff are not a part of.
Yeah, it's FootWise.
I don't get the ad bucks by bringing YouTube bozos around.
Yeah, that's true.
Fun fact time.
So, Matthew McConaughey, he's got a brother who's older than him, I think, and his name's Rooster. And this guy, he's a businessman from Texas. He started an oil pipe business and he made his first million by the time he was 30. He's got a show called Rooster and Butch. I don't know if it's on anymore, but it's kind of like a shark tank thing down in Texas. And he loves, he's this big, like drinking Texas millionaire guy who always has a Miller light in his
hand.
And he named one of his sons Miller light.
No.
Yep.
And light,
light is spelled L Y T E.
And that's the kid's name.
I get,
they probably just call him Miller,
but,
uh,
and for the brand,
the first brand loyalty,
the,
uh,
Miller light company sent him a year's supply of Miller Lite.
Holy shit.
It was 24 cases, I think.
It was 576 beers total.
So it's like one and a half beers a day.
Oh, boy.
So yeah, you name your kid after a beer, you get that beer for a year.
I wonder if they had a family feud over the fact that in True Detective,
Matthew famously drank Lone Star, the Texas beer.
It ended the family.
Oh, it ended the family.
The whole family, yeah.
I was right.
Each piece of the family divorced
the other pieces and now
they're just a bunch of people.
And so this article I was reading too says,
and although McConaughey loves his beer, it turns out
he has a major soft spot for another one
of America's favorite adult beverages.
Miller Lite has an older sister
named Margarita Olympia.
But it turns out
this was actually
a family name
great coincidence.
Oh!
Because not only
is Margarita a cocktail,
Olympia is a beer
from Washington State.
That's right.
That's right.
So yeah,
that's the
booze news fun fact
of today.
We're just going to
kind of keep it at light,
something fun
that's not really news,
but it's something
you like to think about. Truth be told, Mike, that at light. Something fun. That's not really news, but it's something you like to think about.
Truth be told, Mike, that was
fucking awesome, man. That was great.
Thanks. I was nervous. I thought you were
going to take Boo's News in a
wacky direction. No. Me too.
I was scared that maybe like a Zuby
Condorino was going to show up or something
like that. You were scared of that?
Yes. My teeth were chattering.
I thought we talked off pod and you said we loved Zuby Condorino.
We want to see more of him.
Just because we love him doesn't mean we're not scared when he appears on the pod.
What's so scary about him?
The reason that he doesn't need to be on the podcast at all?
The reason that he's a long segment?
I just don't think I know.
I mean, to anyone who didn't hear, this was a guy that came on once and did a film review for us. And I think
my thing was, I just don't know what his whole
deal was. Yeah.
I mean, he showed up and he talked about
a Tom and Jerry movie.
Yeah, he showed up on a Bruce podcast and
he was an eccentric
who talked to... He's a character!
He's a character, Zuby Connery. He's such a character.
He talked about Tom
and Jerry for about six and a half minutes.
It wasn't that long. It felt longer.
So yeah, maybe
Zuby's going to come back. Maybe somebody else will come
back. I don't know.
That's up to the fans. Either way, this was good, Mike.
This was very good. This was good.
This was a refreshing. This is what we're going
for. Yeah. Yes.
In general, if you need a little shorthand
like, just think Tim and Jeff like when things are good. we're going for. Yeah. Yes. We're like in general, if you need a little shorthand, like we're just like
think like Tim and Jeff
like when things are good.
Gotcha.
All right.
Well,
let's,
uh,
let's wrap up,
uh,
booze news,
fun facts.
All right.
And quite frankly,
this wraps up booze news
entirely.
Well,
hold on before we,
before we wrap up booze
news entirely,
I have an update about
the IBA website.
Still down.
Oh.
Booze News fun facts.
I like this NPR.
Because facts are fun.
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McDonald's?
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How much are you pulling in off these deals?
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And they're like, fine, you have to watch 200
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Right.
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Like, I got to say, it is so refreshing in this era to hear actual facts because we live in a time with like alternative facts.
Yes, yes, yes.
Now it's like, oh, who's facts?
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Who's science?
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So we are all in agreement.
Crazy.
Just crazy.
No, that's crazy stuff.
You guys want to get into the cocktail of the day?
Sure.
The drink.
What's day in French?
Le beverage du jour.
Le beverage.
Here's what I would like to do.
I'm going to paint a few pictures for you guys, okay?
And these, all of which, these are scenarios that took place within the last calendar year.
And you listen to them and you tell me if you could see what they all have in common.
Okay? Sure. Okay.
Yeah. First up,
Pop Sensation
Dua Lipa is photographed
by paparazzi doing
yoga poolside
with a certain
colorful cocktail
at her side. Interesting.
Next, the hip young ladies of the Drunken Canal
come up with the idea for their underground newspaper
while sitting in Tompkins Square Park,
sipping on a certain cool, bubbly beverage.
Oh, I'm not familiar with it.
Sprite 7-Up?
I don't know what he's talking about.
It's collective.
Stanley Tucci is in Milan
shooting an episode of his CNN series
Searching for Italy.
He stops into a bar
for the perfect afternoon aperitivo.
Mm-hmm.
What do you guys think
these three things had in common?
COVID.
COVID.
COVID era.
Yes.
I'm curious what soft drink it is, if it's even something we can get from the U.S.
All of these things that happened last year that were written about in articles that I just read
included a certain drink called the Aperol Spritz.
Oh, the drink of the day, the beverage de jus. This is the drink of the moment. Oh, the drink of the day.
The beverage de jus.
This is the drink of the moment.
This is the drink of the moment.
You've had?
Have not had.
I've not had.
Neither of you have.
You've had?
I feel like that was a fun one.
Let's bring that back.
You had?
You have had.
I have not had.
It's a normal way to talk, to turn to someone and say, you've had? Yeah. You have had? I have not had. It's a normal way to talk, to turn to someone and say, you've had.
Changing the tenor of your voice.
So yeah, this is you've had.
Well, I like that you guys haven't had it.
I've had it, but I'd like to know, having not tasted the thing, who, what, where do
you associate with this beverage?
I associate this with West Hollywood, WeHo, you're out at brunch, you're out on the veranda.
Oh, the veranda.
The veranda. Yeah, like Dua Lipa, the poolside. I don't know about doing yoga with a drink like
this, but poolside, poolside.
Oh, that's why that went viral. She's doing yoga, but she's wearing jeans
and she's got an Aperol Spritz going and
she's taking sips during yoga.
This was just this past Christmas.
Apple bottom jeans?
It says boots with the fur.
No. We can only infer.
Duddy, what do you think about when you think Spritz?
You know, this just,
we're getting back into this territory of the Red
Bitter Brothers.
And you know, I kind of, I've got cautious optimism going into this episode.
I think I'm going to like it.
I think I'm going to like it more than the others.
But I just don't know.
It seems like something that you would like, that I would like, that one would like,
because it's spritzy, it's appareoli, it's sort of in the zeitgeist.
Yes, you do make a point about it being spritzy.
Jim, would you cut me off, please?
Just get to the facts about this goddamn drink.
No, but okay, you mentioned zeitgeisty,
but you guys are aware that this drink had a mega boom fairly recently, right?
Huge. And? Let me hear you say yay. Oh, there we go. Yeah. Yeah. And now Jeff,
it's appropriate that you brought up the bitter brothers and I, and I think you're kind of
winking at Campari. Yes, I am. And, and Mike's old sister drink Luxardo bitter. Um, Sister Drink Luxardo Bitter.
Because that's going to come into play.
Here's a little nutshell history of this drink.
It is an old one.
In the 1800s, right?
Northern Italy.
Yes.
1800s?
That doesn't feel like the drink of the moment.
Well, that's why you got to listen close. So there's a, there's a war going on and there's Austrian soldiers occupying Northern
Italy.
And Oh my God,
we're there.
It's 18 guys.
It's 1800.
So there's no automatic weapons or,
uh,
sirens.
There you go.
And, and okay. So there's Austrian soldiers occupying Northern Italy. Or sirens. There you go.
Hand to hand.
Okay, so there's Austrian soldiers occupying northern Italy,
and they don't like, the wine is too strong for them in Italy.
They want to sip a low alcohol, gentle wine.
These are some Bavarian dudes, and they, what do they do? They splash some sparkling water into their wine.
And then the spritz is born.
Spritz is like a German word for splash.
And it's just when you put water in wine.
It's that simple.
Don't spritz me.
I was at a pool in Berlin once.
That's what they gave the owner.
Don't spritz me.
Don't spritz me.
So you were spritzing everyone, and then they were trying to put an end to that. Yeah, spritz everyone. I't spritz me. So you were spritzing everyone and then they were trying to put it into that.
Yeah, spritz everyone.
I didn't know.
Having some fun.
So it's just water in wine or when you put anything in wine.
But then that catches on in Italy and it's a daytime drink.
And we know that from the Negroni, these Italians, they like to while away the afternoon at a cafe.
So from that spritz, then they've got other ones.
They start putting
the bitter brothers into their prosecco and by the 50s there is like okay the aperitifs are
officially going in the prosecco and this is this is a thing here when you come to italy the tourists
are seeing it they're loving it it's sweet it's low alcohol. It's gentle. And it remains very cool in Italy for decades until 2003.
The Campari company acquires Aperol.
I didn't know that.
Campari owns Aperol.
This whole time we've been comparing and contrasting.
The whole time?
It owns them, but has it pwned them?
No, it says here own but not pwned yet.
It says that?
Yeah, that's the official hashtag.
So when Campari gets in control of Aperol, they say, well, the spritz is going to be our way to get Aperol big in America. And they start advertising it. And then in the 20 teens,
when Americans are into cocktails, Campari does like a full court press and you could have
guessed this this is another one of these like ad campaign drinks but but the ad campaign worked
we've seen it before you've seen it before and it always works and what did we see the the um
the fireball right yeah the fireball guy these guys target rich people specifically. So they go to the Hamptons and there's like a little cart driving around the summer,
giving out free spritzes to people at the beach in the Hamptons.
And the bus that takes you from Manhattan out to the Hamptons on the weekends has a huge Aperol logo wrapped around it.
And on the West Coast, you got-
I've never had a drink like this before.
That's a New York guy on his way to the Hamptons.
Yes.
It's absolutely cracking.
And now let's hear this one.
On the West Coast, Mike...
Yeah, dude.
At the Pool Party Music Festival Splash House in Palm Springs.
That's sponsored by Aperol.
Never heard of it.
Splash House?
They probably don't advertise to guys like me.
How the hell have we not been
invited to the splash house wait have we checked our emails well it could have been it could they
could have gotten word of what i was up to in germany in berlin that one time we don't want
this guy spritzing out here don't spritz me um and the advertising works because this drink is so
damn instagrammable.
It's a nice pinky orange.
You hold it up to the sun.
You take a picture.
It's viral.
Then the celebrities are getting in the mix.
Benedict Cumberbatch says that he loves them.
Matches me hair, it does.
You know that they're drinking them in the second season of Master of None.
They wouldn't let that trend slip by them. Right.
And eventually 2018 is kind of like officially amongst bloggers.
It's the summer of the spritz.
It's everywhere.
Everybody's drinking them.
But then as the summer of 2019 is coming and you remember the summer of 2019
sloppy boys are releasing their hit album,
dancing on the wind.
Sure.
Uh,
Trump era.
Anyway,
just as that summer starting the New York times puts out a big clickbait
article that says the Aperol spritz is a bad drink.
And then by the end of that day,
every single newspaper has weighed in saying,
actually the spritz is actually kind of good.
Uh, and, single newspaper has weighed in saying actually the spritz is actually kind of good and and it's
a whole fucking pile of opinions and some people are saying you should have different spits maybe
the Campari spritz maybe the Amaro spritz but it kind of did become a thing that it was getting
shit on very hard so I was almost very interested to see that Dua Lipa and Stanley Tucci are still promoting it because at this point, we're kind of three years into peak Aperol spritz, and it's time for the sloppy boys to mix them up.
Yeah, baby.
It's time for us to give the final.
Is this thing going to continue on for this summer?
Are we done, done, done with it?
Maybe we're kind of making a ruling here.
or are we done, done, done with it?
Maybe we're kind of making a ruling here.
If you want to have a sloppy spring with the sloppy boys,
you have to adhere to what we decide here today.
Yes.
I like that.
And if you're caught having one,
if we don't like it,
you're out.
We'll whip your bony little ass.
We're going to encrypt our show
so you can't listen anymore.
But we might like it. We might
like the drink. We might love it. And then
drink it all you want. I've had them
before and I like them. But I haven't
made this recipe. Here's how you make this thing.
I like this recipe because
we're big fans of equal parts and
this is not equal parts, but it's easy to remember.
Three, two, one.
Blast off.
Three ounces of Prosecco, two ounces of Aperol, one ounce of club soda.
Add ingredients in a wine glass full of ice and stir.
Garnish with an orange slice.
Ooh.
Very cool.
Very cool.
Very chill.
In a wine glass.
In a wine glass.
So we're not shaking this thing up.
We're not doing that stuff.
Not shaking because it's bubbly, Michael.
You don't want to shake up bubbles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You guys going stemless?
You got stems on there?
What are you doing?
Mikey, what crestfallen?
I'm rolling with it.
I'm feeling good here.
All right.
Well, anything else?
No, I think we go mix them up
and then we see whether
the Aperol Spritz is
Crapperol Shits.
Great. Folks,
we'll be right back.
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ooh
Tim I like how you did the orange there
you got the whole wheel
yeah big ol' wheel
not me
I went with the wedge
a chubby wedge
you went with the wedge?
I went with a little slice of
skin i'll make an old-fashioned that's right oh cool i went with the wedge salad i kind of
went a different way oh they meant to they meant to do like a big thing of orange like that oh
they didn't specify did they yeah i think i think it's usually like, I did a full wheel.
I think it's more like a half wheel just dunked in
there. And it's kind of like the Negroni where
you could use your orange to stir it up a little bit
if you want. Ah, yes. Wow.
Well, this looks fantastic. Ready for
sips? Yeah.
Ooh. I can see
yes, okay. Yep.
Come on now. I feel like Dua Lipa. Mm-hmm. Bending up. Yes. Okay. Yep. Come on now.
I feel like Dua Lipa.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Bending up like a pretzel.
I feel like Benedict Cumberbatch in that one interview I read.
And I feel like that person in the 1850s. I mean, that is a daytime drink, right?
Yeah.
It's a day timer.
Yeah.
This is a, boy, this doesn't even taste like any alcohol in here. I mean, it? Yeah. It's a day timer, yeah. This is a boy, this doesn't even taste like any
alcohol in here. I mean, it's low. I think
Aperol is like 11% and
then, you know, Prosecco
is just like
champagne percentage. So we're getting
down there. This Prosecco is
also 11%.
Yeah. This is
La Marca Prosecco. And we
determined last time that the Aperol is like a
sweeter lighter Campari
yes so this is
even sweeter and lighter than Aperol
and if you don't have Aperol and you want
to make some we said mix
Campari with simple syrup
this
you know what's funny is I also
think I'm loving this and it makes
me want to do a real daytime chug.
But the soda is important too, because if you just had like champagne and then you added something sweet to it, it would start to be like a sugary gross thing.
But watering it down a little bit is nice.
Just watering bubbles.
I got to say, keep talking.
I got to see what I use.
Hold on.
What did you use, Jeff?
I didn't, I just had Brut. I didn't have, keep talking. I got to see what I use. Hold on. What did you use, Jeff? I just had Brut.
I didn't have any Prosecco.
Did you have Prosecco?
I found some Corbel Prosecco, I think.
And, you know, I wish they had smaller bottles of Prosecco because I'm not going to go through that.
I think, is Prosecco just that champagne's from France, whereas Prosecco is from Italy?
I believe so.
So I used sparkling seltzer water for this.
Was that right?
No.
Wait, for the soda part or for the wine part?
For the soda part, for the soda part.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's fine.
Our recipe said club soda, but, you know, if you're in Italy, I bet they're using San Pellegrino.
Right.
That's what I thought when I was in the grocery store aisle trying on my phone seeing,
is club soda the same thing as sparkling water and not getting a signal on my phone?
I got a little Schweppes.
This is good.
I just took a little taste of the Prosecco on its own, and I do not like it.
I don't really like champagne
very much. Yeah.
We talked about this in the mimosa episode.
Hanny does not like champagne.
But this is...
I mean, I'll drink this. I'll drink this stuff
if we're raising a toast on
New Year's Eve. Sure.
That's a good point, though. I prefer
mimosa to this, personally.
You know?
Because it's just,
it's this without the bitter.
You like mimosa more than this?
Yes.
You're getting pretty bitter over there, I see.
Well, I think I did it properly.
I did it to the letter of the law.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm starting to think that you have
the most bitter thing present
is Jeff's attitude.
You know what is might be getting me here?
Because this feels pretty like light to me.
The ice cubes I'm using.
I did.
I've done this before.
I put them in the tray, you know, and put them in the freezer.
And I brought them out and they still had like water on the inside of them. They were
cubes, but like with waters.
Yeah, they're like little aquariums.
That's right. We have talked about this because
I remember you saying little aquariums. So
that's what's going on over here.
There's a nice big hole one right there. I don't like
those aquariums, but I think that warm
ice is actually a thing
that can, I was just watching
a YouTube video with this Japanese cocktail master who was making some sort of whiskey cocktail.
And he had this big, a big block of ice and he brought it out and he says, the ice is too cold.
So I'm going to warm it up.
And he wanted it to get more see-through and more kind of glassy.
And he was, he was like pouring pouring water on it and like hugging it
with a towel. Is that how you drew it?
Well, because he wanted to chop
it with a machete. Okay.
And he couldn't get the knife through it.
So yeah, he was like
laying a towel on it.
It's like massaging it. I mean, I guess
you could just sit it out on the counter
for a long time. Well, like ice sculptures
are like ice luges. They're all usually clear ice. Yeah, they yeah they're not like a big i don't know if that's a different
type of water or what but huh now here's a question for you japanese what are like japanese
cocktails that would be interesting high balls like sake is the only thing i know uh they make
really good whiskey in japan so so a nice tall high ball that's just a little bit of whiskey with a lot of club
soda. That's popular over there.
Japan would be fun. We got to do a drinking trip out
to Japan. That would be fun.
Three of us?
Dude, they've got that.
If somebody pays for it, we should do it.
That's true. If it's a free trip to go
have the time of our lives in a cool country.
Then we should.
Visit their whiskey distilleries
and they put us up at this nice hotel.
Maybe the one from Lost Translation,
something like that. We should definitely do that.
There's that one neighborhood
that's all these little bars that only fit
two or three stools and you can go
to like 20 bars in a...
That's good. I've seen pictures of those. They look neat.
And there's three of us, so we'll just stand outside
and be like, Everybody out!
Get your butt out there right now!
Oh my gosh!
It's the sloppy boys. They came from America.
We're paying for it.
The Japanese taxes are paying for this.
Why did we fly them out?
The Japanese government flew them here.
We love them.
This was our big diplomacy move
of the century
um our buddy jack shram was also saying that uh shaken cocktails with that like snowy you know
when you shake uh when you shake a cocktail and you get those like crystalline bits on top of a
drink that's a big japanese move oh yeah that was another thing I saw is a Japanese guy was making a martini and he
had invented the extra hard shake and he shook the shit out of it.
He put it in like a home Depot paint shake.
Yeah.
And he,
his,
his martini had a whole layer of those shards on top.
Like,
Oh,
like a slush puppy.
What was his,
we gotta get,
we gotta post a video of like his extra hard shake. Yeah. I think it was, um, at the slush puppy. What was his, we got to get, we got to post a video of like his extra hard shake.
I think it was, um, at the shaky shit head.
Well, like, which is weird because he was a great guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he named himself.
He named himself that.
All right.
It's up to him.
It's weird.
You've seen some people, they, they have like a triple shake.
Like they do like a, they do like a shake up above their head.
And then as they bring their whole arm down, they get like a mid-body shake and then they have like a down by their hip shake
so it's like i know yeah i can't do that it seems like the same rhythm as doing like a speed bag
a punching bag yes yes yes which you're which which you're really good at but you just can't
think of doing that with a yeah i've seen you with the box i'm really good at, but you just can't think of doing that with a, yeah. I've seen you with the boxing.
I'm really good at the timing of the speed bag, but I can never reach it.
I can never get up that high.
I'm 4'9", by the way.
That never really came up on the podcast before.
Yeah, we haven't set our heights.
4'9 for Tim.
Jeff?
All 4'9", right?
You wouldn't believe it.
7'11".
That's fun.
Because, obviously, the store. And yes, 4'9 for me, too. So we got two 4'9s and a 7-11 that's that's fun because you obviously the store and yes 4-9 for me too so
we got two 4-9s and a 7-11 i didn't know about the whole height thing until fairly recently like
there's so much talk on on twitter and stuff about how women like like tall guys and then tall guys on Tinder will be like, uh,
six,
four,
if that matters to you or I was,
I was oblivious to the whole,
cause I'm sort of that height where,
where it doesn't,
I'm not tall or short.
So I don't,
I don't ever think about it.
It's just not on my radar.
You're six feet tall.
Yeah.
I mean,
four,
nine.
You are like six feet though,
right? I'm, I'm six feet so that means
anyone taller than me is tall and people shorter than me are not necessarily short but it's almost
just like it's kind of just plain you know it's just like original recipe and mike you're five
i happen to be six feet myself are you six five eleven but i'm starting to say six and you know
what i actually kind of like it tim and I think it's pretty neat.
Are you getting that growth spurt?
Yeah, I'm standing up straighter these days.
I'm working on my pasture.
That late 30s, that very last growth spurt.
Yeah.
It's a funny thing about height that it's all about the proportion, too,
because, like, from a distance, like, I think of Mike as being way taller than me
because you're lanky and I'm wider.
I'm like my whole body is a square.
But you know, it's like think of John Lennon, who we one time played some authentic audio of in the Brandy Alexander episode.
We know him from the Beatles too.
Yes.
Think of John Lennon in the Beatles and then the middle era Beatles, he got a little pudgy and he kind of looks like a short
guy. But then when you think of like seventies, John Lennon with the long hair hanging out with
Yoko, he looks really tall, but it's just, it's just because he got thin. It's the clothing.
It's the Ichabod crane effect. So if I didn't eat for a few months, I could,
I would look like the world's tallest man. Wow.
Cool.
This drink is great.
I finished it.
Yeah.
I really want to drink it in the afternoon.
I feel like outdoor cafe kind of a thing.
Maybe watching some sort of outdoor event.
Maybe somebody's playing a sport.
This seems like it would be good at a racetrack
or something like a Kentucky
Derb. Or like the cemetery
screening at the Hollywood Cemetery.
That would be nice. Give me
an outdoor thing. You know, you're digging up
some corpses and you need to cool down.
You know, picking off the jewelry.
Yeah.
I would like this with a little
more flavor to it
it probably is the ice or something
or maybe I put too much
the ice is not fucking up
no the ice
I think the aquariums are opening up
and they're gushing water
but everything else was to the letter
of the law
I feel like I want more of a kick on that flavor
maybe a little more
I have a pitch for you.
Campari spritz.
It'll be less sweet and it'll be
more bitter.
And maybe more ashy.
That's not the taste I'm after though.
I'm after this orange taste that's
right behind my tongue.
You don't like mimosas though.
But it's like this taste.
There's something there.
It's like an orange soda. maybe i want orange soda in this put in some slice
yeah michael you are an enigma you can't pin me down uh i want to ask you guys about
uh something i don't know if you heard this but you hear, this was just in this past year too, Faith Hill
came out with an Aperol Spritz song?
No!
Faith Hill, yeah. I know Faith Hill,
country star. Yep, country star.
She came out with
a song, it kind of, I think it
was like on a big, I think she came out
when the election results
also came out.
So I know what what happened is for me
barry i was yeah because i'm sort of like a um political junkie yeah so i feel like that day
i was really watching the election yes and and she was like she planned it so it's like i'm
not gonna come out on election day but as we know you know right who It was that was Kornacki's week. It'll go down in history as Kornacki's week.
You know, I hope that Kornacki got to have a few Aperol spritzes after all that.
Kornacki.
I can do a whole podcast on that guy.
Maybe that'll be a blowout.
It's knack week.
It's knack week.
But yeah, so this song she did It came out
People kind of went unnoticed
But we'll take a listen to it in just a second
There's something
The producer she worked with
You'll see what happened
Something kind of weird goes on with it
But yeah, this is Faith Hill
Her Aperol Spritz drink
Oh wow
Yeah
It's a drink that's yellow her Aperol Spritz drink. Oh, wow. Yeah.
It's a drink.
That's yellow with an orangey tip.
It was big enough.
And in 2019, it's that popular cocktail.
It's served with some ice.
This Spritz,
this Spritz. It's Aperol ice This spritz, this spritz
It's Aperol
This spritz, this spritz
What?
Remix
Oh no, no
Oh god
Here we go
It's coming
Chugging on a spritz, getting rowdy at the club
Aperol, bitch, raise the roof like a thritz, getting rowdy at the club.
Aperol, bitch, raise the roof like a thug.
App, app, app, Aperol.
Spritz, spritz, spritz, spritz for all.
Oh.
Oh.
Still down, still down. Oh.
It's times like these.
We wish we had a big crew
Oh, they don't?
We buy them all drinks
No IOU
Drinks are on us tonight
We'd be gracious with a Monday
Aperol Spritz tonight Faith Hill Why do they sound like little gremlins?
Okay.
Oh, boy.
Uh-oh.
Oh, God.
It's gross.
Oh, Faith's still there, yeah. You wild faith It's gross You are too guys Oh she's
Faith's still there
Yeah
One small step
Oh no
Your pen out
Always
One giant leap
Miss Lewinsky
Miss Lewinsky
These guys Oh they ruined music.
I mean, that was a good song.
Faith Hill had a great song.
Yeah.
We were having so much fun listening to Faith Hill.
Little Thriller and Dr. Benedicto.
We've had them on the show before.
They're just awful, awful, awful artists.
They're weird.
They're off-putting they use too many samples of like
historical 20th century president stuff right and and then also like their kitchen sinky and
their songs just they just do too much they stop and get into a whole different yeah thing and i
gotta say you know it makes me nervous that they've they're working with
bigger artists now like me too you know how annoying it is to see somebody like fail up
oh we're like like well that guy you know he sucks or whatever he gets a lot of attention
but it sucks and then suddenly they keep getting more and more chances and they become more and
more legitimate it's like these guys aren't good did we ever stop to think that they were any good
right and it's just a runaway train.
No, Jeff, when I was listening to the Faith Hill song
and those guys came on, I had a panic attack.
Oh, I totally know what you mean, Mike, because me?
I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Yes.
Yes.
I was like, this is not chill vibes.
Faith, if you listen to this podcast,
we just want you to know
you're you're a great pop country star and you don't have to like if you want ideas for people
to collaborate ask us and we'll pitch you some better people yeah but we're all spritz tonight
i mean it does yeah if it just wasn't those two guys it is kind of a cool song but i hate they
are i'll give them this like they are gifted with melody. Like you can tell here and there, but they're just,
they just rubbed me the wrong way.
They're just bad.
Bad.
Do you guys want to go make another round?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Let's do it.
We'll be're back.
Drinks in hand.
Okay.
I did a funny thing.
Did you guys try something new?
I tried a little, yeah, a little something new in my spritz.
What do you got?
I did the same ingredients.
Three, two, one.
And then I added a half ounce of lime juice.
Oh.
And what's the verdict?
Hmm.
Oh, shit.
Just a little bit of, a little bit of what?
I'm going to do that right now.
I love a lime.
Were you just doing the regular Aperol?
Yeah. Spritz? Yeah. Hmm. Were you just doing the regular Aperol? Yeah.
Spritz?
Yeah.
But you've become inspired.
It gives a little, go ahead, Jeff, go ahead.
A little kick.
It gives a little bit of extra sourness, which is nice.
You know, I've realized too, like when there's like takes on drinks,
you don't have to go like some crazy wild thing.
Like a lime fits nicely into this. I don't know why, but it seems. You don't even have go like some crazy wild thing. Like a lime fits nicely into this.
I don't know why, but it seems...
You don't even have to change the name of the cocktail. It's just like
you could be at a restaurant and order an Aperol
Spritz with a splash of lime. They say,
yes, Mr. Hanford.
Yeah. Could I have a...
Mr. Hanford, you've already had
12.
Well, I'm
staying at this hotel.
Sir, this is not a hotel.
Then who did I give my luggage to, sir?
Sir, this is an Arby's.
Ooh, this looks good, Mike.
This is...
Ooh, honestly, Mike, that counterbalances the bitter for me real good.
Nice!
There you go.
Real good.
I hope you remember that when you were grading this drink at the end.
Michael Hanford's Test Kitchen
has cracked the
case on it. Open for business.
Here's
what I did. Did you guys see
when we did the Negroni
on the show, we had some people
send us
this variation on it, which
is, there's this funny drink.
It's got a bad name and a name that is better,
but have you heard of the hobo Negroni?
No.
I've heard of that.
What is that?
People don't say,
cause there's,
there's no reason to make fun of the unhoused well drink and drink,
but basically what it is,
is a Miller high life that you take a sip out of it and then you top it off
with Campari and it turns, it turns it red
and gives a little bitterness. And then I was just reading about those and you can make it with
Aperol as, as well, if you like a little sweet and it's come to be known as the Spaghet, like
the Tim Heidecker character. Wait, is it related after him to Spag do think so i think that it's like it's a it's
you're putting in a italian aperitif into your beer so it's like spaghetti so i think people
are thinking of like what's a funny low class spaghetti when you think of spaghetti the
spaghetti he eats is disgusting and it's probably like college kids doing that stuff anyway.
I didn't have any,
I do think it is a college thing.
I didn't have any Miller Highlifes,
but I had a Michelob Ultra and I just made an Aperol and Michelob Ultra
spaghetti.
And it's fantastic.
That's cool.
If you've got a really light beer,
it's a great thing to do.
You know what?
This drink just reminds me of how far we've come.
What do you mean?
In this pod or in human existence?
This is a new drink.
This is nothing like we used to drink back in the old stink house.
So you're kind of saying like started from the bottom, now we're here.
Started from the bottom, now the whole team's up in here.
It is, but also Tim.
All my friends are here.
Also, Tim, it reminds me of a story from the good old days.
Oh.
Here we have a classy, refined Italian drink.
Yeah.
But things weren't always that way for us, were they?
No.
No, no, no.
In fact.
I feel like you should be whittling a stick will you tell us this continue
i remember one time our boy timmy was forcefully removed from a bar oh boy was this sorry not
forcefully removed chase chase out is this different than the time that i had new samba
i just bought some new Samba. You know,
you're going to have to comment on the Samba.
I don't know if we,
I've ever heard the Samba's in this story.
Well,
I'm going to start,
maybe it's different.
This will be sort of like a Rashomon thing.
I'll tell the story from my point of view.
And then Tim can jump in with like his whole thing.
Yeah.
I have to say Rashomon is like one of my favorite plays,
but that's perfect.
Um,
so this was a bar in, uh, Echo park. I want to say so this was a bar in echo park i want to say still is a
bar in echo park and we were there all of us and dave ferguson was there and it was towards the
end of the night and i was talking to a young woman jefferson And all I remember hearing was,
come on,
Jeffy,
we gotta go.
And I saw,
I saw a flash.
And Tim ran down the bar and swept the glassware off the bar onto the floor.
They were,
they were cleaning up for the night and like all the empties up on the bar.
A lot.
It was a lot.
Now, what I've come to realize
is that there was an altercation beforehand, right?
Yes.
What if there wasn't?
What if that wasn't?
It was just you being a fucking prick.
Wait.
So, but finish from your point of view.
You pretended you didn't know me
i just uh pretended i didn't hear you because i was i was spitting game and uh
i've seen you spit game and it's i not not pleasant you know i'm thinking about starting
a podcast someday it's awkward yeah and i don't need any help or distractions for my friends who are getting into tiffs with you know a lot of people thought grito shot first but i have a heavy evidence that
that's not the case well uh the night did not go my way but i do remember driving around on
side streets after the bar was closed looking for tim yeah tim ran Tim ran up into the hills and the
bouncer
chased you.
He chased you through the neighborhood.
Tim, take us through your account.
Well, it's very Rashomon-esque
because there is so much
context where you mentioned
our friend Dave Ferguson of Birthday Boys
fame, the TV writer.
I was defending my boy's honor. Here we are at this dive bar our friend Dave Ferguson of Birthday Boys fame, the TV writer. I
was defending my boy's honor.
Here we are at this dive bar
and a place that
I liked and actually...
We can't say the name because you were told never to come back.
It was old management
back then. I don't know. Is it still
even the same place?
I was banned, but I've
been back and they didn't notice me maybe because I had such a glow
up. They said, don't, don't come back unless you have a glow up. Um,
I know. So, you know, when you're at a bar
and it's the end of the night, it's after last call, they're closing down.
And you know, when the guys kind of are like, get the fuck out of here.
We're closing down. And, when the guys kind of are like get the fuck out of here we're gonna yeah closing down and um hey i respect i worked in food service for seven years so i know
what it's like to be at the end of a shift and wanting to get home but some bros tend to get a
little aggro at the end of the night but uh it was a very chill night and then when they started to
say hey everybody we're closing up
some bartenders were totally normal yep hey we're closing up can you guys finish your drinks and
let's move out and then there's this one guy i don't know if you saw him but he was bearded
and kind of crazy and and i don't know if he worked there oh i hope he worked there well
because he didn't look like okay go on but he didn't look like that's a whole nother rashomon
let's stick with this maybe he's an undercover agent he this guy walks up to dave ferguson is
still sitting on a stool and the guy walks up and goes you guys got to go and he grabs the stool
that's under dave's butt and he pulls on it like pulling his stool out from him and then dave
stands up kind of just in the nick of time and not full over.
And then most mild mannered,
nice guy you could ever meet.
Dave,
um,
was pissed off that the guy pulled the stool out.
So Dave kind of kicked the stool as he was,
as the guy was pulling it out from under him.
And like,
without missing a beat,
the guy took a swing at Dave,
like threw a punch at Dave.
Missed him.
Right.
Dave ducked. This is big at Dave, like threw a punch at Dave. Missed him, right? Dave ducked.
Dave, Dave, wow.
This is big Dave.
Peter Parker reflexes on this guy.
Yeah.
His spidey senses were definitely tingling on this day.
He kicked the shield, ducked the punch.
It was a big haymaker, like huge punch that the guy missed.
And it was just crazy that he threw a punch.
So I was defending
dave's honor and i got up in his face and when i do such things i'm also being a little weasel so
i didn't say normal things like you can't do that uh i was being like you fuck listen the customer
is always right you know you know the customer is always right. I remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then before this guy could punch me, another, like some employee of the club held him back.
So, and was putting out that fire.
So as on my way out of the club, now very pissed off, I noticed end of the night, they
had piled 200 glasses on top of the bar and I held out my, I held out my arm and I ran down the bar and swept it. Hey,
no other way to say it. I swept it. You swept the bar. But you did spot your boy,
Jeffy out of your left eye. But that's what's funny is I, I do remember this part where
I looked at you and I, and in my mind, I think like, Oh, everyone's going to know Jeff's my
friend. So we have to get him out of here too. So as I'm getting to the end of my sweep, I go, Jeffy, we gotta go.
And I was expecting it would be to be like Batman and Robin and we run out together.
Jeff having nothing to do with any of this.
It should have been Dave we have to go.
Jeff did not look up, did not make eye contact.
I was like, who is that Greek guy? I don't know him. We don't know him. We don't know him. Jeff did not look up, did not make eye contact, acted like, who is that Greek guy?
Don't know him.
We don't know him.
So back to Greedo.
I ran out by myself
without my boy
by my side. And I don't know what happened
to Dave either. He was still in there. But the sad
end of the story is I walked up the
street for a little bit, hung out in Echo Park
like a block away from the bar. And then
when I thought the coast was clear, I was like, oh, those guys are my ride home.
So I got to go find them.
It's after two now.
So they're probably outside.
And as I was walking up to the bar, I was like, oh, Tim, you can't go back toward the bar.
They're going to beat the shit out of you if you go, if you go by that bar.
So I was wearing a flannel shirt and I took it off.
Smart.
Like a blue flannel shirt and
i just had a red t-shirt underneath and i was like they won't recognize perfect i'm pretty
indistinct other than this shirt and i really shouldn't have done that because the bouncer
who was if you close your eyes and picture a bouncer it was like exactly like one of those guys was looking
for me and he saw me and not he was mad to see me he was like walking through the neighborhood
looking for me but the fact that i had taken my shirt off like to fool him he was he was like you
think you're gonna fucking fool me by changing your shirt and he fucking beat the shit out of me and just truly trounced me he was bigger than me and
madder than me and just tackled me and i hit the ground and then he just kicked me in the ribs but
what's funny was i still was being a little weenie because i was i was drunk enough that it didn't
hurt so uh i was going you're hurting me you're hurting me he's fucking kicking me in the
ribs as hard as he can i'm going you don't understand well tim he has to he has to avenge
25 worth of glassware yeah i know exactly and he's like insane uh i mean i don't blame that
guy because if he had to clean up the shards and stuff that's that is a rough night and
i was being a weenie but it's funny to take it into your own hands and actually beat the shit out of someone.
You think you would call the cops or, but to just be like, I'm going to kick this guy in the ribs.
And it was that funny thing. I never felt any pain until the next day. And then I woke up and I was,
I was like truly pummeled and all black and blue, but it didn't hurt at all on the very night. I do remember when we, we, we were sort of like cruising the streets, cruising the nearby streets
and we did find you and you were up on your feet and you got in the car and we went home.
But yeah, I don't remember it. Like that bouncer kicked the shit out of me.
Literally because I didn't have, he didn't punch my face. So like, I didn't have any,
like there was no blood or anything yeah yeah
he tackled you down to the ground he's not trying to injure you he's just trying to teach you a
little lesson he did what i did to the glasses like he like strong he like ran at me with his
arm out and like knocked me down with the arm and i went down so you and did he say he, don't come back. Yeah. He, he, he, he amongst some expletives.
Sure.
A few four letter words were thrown about that night.
Yeah.
He said, don't come back.
And then I was scared to go back.
And then it's got a whole different vibe these days.
And I go back a lot and I like it.
It's been 10 years.
So did he, so when, when he was done like kicking you, did he was just like, okay, don't
come back. And then like walk to it. Like, yeah, I mean, he was, if you weren't fighting back and he's just kicking you did he was just like okay don't come back and then like walk to it
like yeah i mean he was if you weren't fighting back and he's just kicking and then it's like
all right i'm not just gonna kick this guy to death yeah i don't think he wanted a murder on
his well nobody's record but he fully walked back to the bar like i just yeah beat the shit like it
that's what was so weird about it i haven't really like been in fights so it was weird that it was such a like on paper like i got the shit kicked out of me like i got
like he just beat the shit out of me for like a solid minute i love this story is so funny because
of just like the actions of it but like i don't remember i must have been very drunk and i
don't remember i wasn't even like talking to anyone i didn't see what happened to dave all i
remember is like in my sleepy ways just be like who's going on over here and this the bar the
bouncer guy who was being held back says i don't think he was a bouncer he looked very like he
didn't look like he would be in the front maybe if he was a bouncer i think he was just like one
of those guys who helps out at a bar or something a bar back something yeah maybe
something like that and uh i just saw him being held back and dave being like what's up man
and then seeing you saying we gotta go and pushing all the glasses and then you running out and then
me running out by myself and like doing circles and be like what do we do i'm
not running anymore this is like i'm not really sure what's happening here so you're just you're
throwing air punches into the night i ran out and like ran across the street and just like did
circles in the in the street and then i didn't know where anyone was or what was going on yeah
you were kind of out in the street doing some like jumps and kick flips and stuff yeah i was like if anyone wants to try something with me come at me
now now yeah that was a oh boy that's a classic i'll tell you what it makes me happy to now have
an aperol spritz a nice low alcohol drink that i'll drink as an adult. No more getting drunk and beaten up.
Jeff, I see what you're saying.
We've come a long way.
And we've got fancy Italian drinks,
but also it's nice to have one or two in the afternoon.
Don't drag it out into a late night where you're in a place where you might get your ass kicked.
Right.
Drink the same amount of drinks, but earlier in the day.
Yeah.
And then the only one beating you up is just the
people you live with man um i think we can rank this drink pretty quick for me yeah it's an order
again i'm ordinary uh this is this is like a uh i would do this for brunch because i i know that i
have a tough time finding a brunch drink yeah michael i, I'm with you. It's an order again.
Yes.
With any appointment?
I came around.
No appointment necessary.
Wow.
Nice.
No certain distinction?
No, no distinctions whatsoever.
A little splash of lime juice, though.
Even better.
Yeah, that did help.
I like that a lot.
It balances it a little bit just because like you
know you get that there's there's a nagging quality to aperol and campari that um just
balances a little bit i mean it will say now it tastes more just like anything else
like a refreshing fruity thing but maybe that's jay's way oh. I also would have many rounds.
Great drink.
I'm looking forward to having a few of these during the spring.
And, folks, try the spaghetti.
Put a little dash of Aperol or Campari into your beer.
It's fun.
Tim's drinking this poolside.
That's right.
Much like Dua Lipa.
I'm going to get my jeans on.
Yeah.
Have a little future nostalgia.
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