The Sloppy Boys - 90. Seelbach
Episode Date: July 8, 2022The guys try a bourbon-champagne cocktail once believed to be the “forgotten” house cocktail of an historic hotel.SEELBACH RECIPE1oz/30ml Old Forester Bourbon.5oz/30ml Triple Sec7 dashes Angostura... Bitters7 dashes Peychaud’s Bitters5oz/150ml Korbel BrutCombine bourbon, triple sec and bitters in a champagne flute and stir briefly. Pour in champagne. Twist an orange peel and rub rim on the flute. Drop the twist into the cocktail.Recipe via Adam Seger, The Seelbach Hotel Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys, where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love.
I'm Jeff Dutton, along with Michael Hanford.
I can't with you, Jeff.
And Timothy Kalpakis.
What is up, Southern Stylies?
Oh, yeah, man.
Mike, you can't with Jeff today?
I can't.
Well, Jeff, I just can't with you.
You can't? I just can't.
Okay, well, I hope you can with him next week.
Not with me.
I can't.
You can.
Tim, you reminded me of my favorite detective from a little movie called Knives Out.
Yeah.
Ooh, that movie also has one of my favorite Cable knit sweaters
Ooh, it has also one of my favorite
Twitter
Things from a couple months ago
Who are they going to cast in Knives Out?
That was one of your favorite Twitter things?
What do you call those?
Is that a meme?
No
Topic of conversation
Yeah, it's funny, memes can be all types of things.
Yeah, that's true.
Hey.
Not that.
But not that.
No.
Not that.
No, no.
That's a trending topic.
Trending topic.
Here's a trending topic that's about to blow your minds.
What do you guys see what I'm drinking that I just invented one minute ago?
Knives Out Cola.
Nope.
High Life.
High Life. It looks empty. Do you see the color? It's kind of greenish blue oh curacao it's a
it's blue baby i was inspired by the spaghet but i didn't have any aperol i put some of the
the blue curacao from the adios motherfucker now i've got a little or and i put some lemon in there
too so i've got an orange flavored high life i'm gonna do this with everything you got a little orange. And I put some lemon in there, too. So I've got an orange-flavored High Life.
I'm going to do this with everything.
You put a little Chambord in there, whatever.
That's good.
So it's a low proofer.
You're just spiking the High Life just a little bit.
Getting the color going.
Just kind of the way that you use the Aperol,
just to put a little sauce on there, you know?
With this and the Ranch Water, I think it's a slippery slope now
because it's like, crack open a beer
and pour whatever you got in it.
Yeah, open a bottle,
pour anything in there.
You know,
we were talking so much
about the ranch water
and what a shoe in it might be
for the drink of the summer.
Sure.
And the spaghetti,
I think,
I don't want to,
it's too soon to say,
but I think the spaghetti
did a little better as far as our engagement goes.
Oh, yeah, the spaghetti's a blast.
The slopheads are, COVID, the slopheads are into it.
But let me tell you this, it's...
But so is the common man, Tim.
And the common man.
But I think that ranch water is delicious and no shit.
Spaghetti, you do taste it and you say, oh.
That's what you want to say when you
taste. I think, and I've done no
research on this. I don't have my numbers
in front of me.
I left them at work. But
the
Spaghet, I think, looks like it was doing better
because our fans, the Slopheads,
who I love dearly, love those guys.
Sure.
They are more prone to knowing who we are and also who Tim and Eric are and Spaghet.
Knowing who we are.
Our fans are prone to knowing who we are.
No, Mike, I'm going to need to see the facts and figures on this.
I think the data's skewed, but that's what I'm saying.
I left it at work.
You guys listening to the new Heidecker album?
It's so good.
Yeah, it's cool.
The guy's good.
When you're good, you're good. He's good.
I like that his tour poster has
like comedy Tim Heidecker
and musician Tim Heidecker on it.
It's like a double header.
And the comedy Tim Heidecker at this moment
is like very into the no
bullshit tour. The sort of like
comedians are out there getting slapped.
Does he do
his uh elysian shows yet as of the release of this pod probably all right well how about a little
are you saying that we should do short short shit chat today yeah well the short this should i
refuse the news this week.
Whoa!
You refuse the news?
We each get one news refusal.
No, it takes three to turn the key.
Do you two refuse the news?
I choose the news.
Oh, no.
Jeff?
I peruse the news?
Yes. Okay, well, that's two people who want to see the news.
We're doing booze news.
Here we go.
Hit it!
Toad is 32.
Toad.
I love geek shit. I tried to tell you guys this.
Toad is 32. well i couldn't really hear the tag very well on that one i missed you but that was
bitches toad is 32 taylor's version by pat cavanaugh and if you have a booze news theme
email it to the sloppy boys podcast at gcast.gmail.com. 32.
We'll never get over it.
Mike, you learned in the...
What quiz were we doing?
That was the episode.
The geek quiz.
That was the Nintendo quiz for the Saki Bomb.
We found out that Toad is 32 years old.
And why wouldn't he be?
He looks like a child.
Wears a diaper basically median listener of the sloppy boys podcast it's perfect okay booze news are you guys ready for a new segment
oh these are always great sure pre-recorded segment hit it
I woke up in the morning, oh, where has Timothy gone?
I've been gone.
Where has Timothy gone?
Gone, we strive.
Oh, yeah.
Where has Timothy gone?
Daddy gone.
It's time for Timmy's Travels.
Uh, Beavis.
What is up?
Cal Piquet here at Churchill Downs in Louisville Kentucky with my high
school friends Tristan and Sean how's it going guys great I'm sorry Sean's
already drinking it we got these are old Forester mint juleps at the very place
where they were invented Wow first sips here we go delicious
delicious the mint goes right up your nose.
Yeah, the mint is right up the schnoz.
It's basically a giant glass of whiskey with sugar in it.
Sugar and mint, yeah.
And a collectible cup.
Would you order again?
A hundred percent.
I'm driving, so one and done.
Me, I'm getting tanked.
Peace.
Nice.
So if you listened to episode two of the Sloppy Boys podcast,
you heard us talking mint julep, and now I've been to the very place.
Wow.
And I got to say, I think that's where Suede by the Smell came up.
Oh, you're right.
I think it was Tristan said the mint went right up his nose. So he's very suede. He's suede by the smell. uh came up you're right because and i think it was tristan said the mint went
right up his nose so he got very swayed that was episode two episode two was the second episode
maybe we're already coining iconic phrases wow look at that i know no it was three because two
was zombie and i remember being like already in episode two we have too many ingredients oh yeah
yeah um so too
many ingredients i'll tell you this though so we had all said that the mint julep we kind of thought
it was going to be like some funny green cocktail or something but right it's a pretty strong bourbon
drink it's just bourbon sugar and mint sprigs um but there at churchill downs they um old forester
is like the oldest local brand of bourbon that they're all
proud of there.
And so they make it with old Forrester.
I saw them when I,
I didn't notice that on that first round,
but when I went back,
it's pre-mixed in the bottle,
it's old Forrester mint julep.
So when they poured it,
it already had the sugar in there and then they added the mint.
That's by the bar though.
Not by old Forrester. By the bar. Yeah. and then they added the mint. That's by the bar, though, not by Old Forrester.
By the bar, yeah.
Now, you were at the racetrack.
You saw some, did you bet on any horses?
Dude, I won $114 on a horse named Best Bet.
That's good.
Now, let me ask you this.
This wasn't, no, Kentucky Derby was months ago.
Were there still people, like, dressed up?
Do they still maintain, like, oh, I up do they still maintain like oh I'm going to
Churchill Downs I'm going to make a day
of it um no
you don't really wear I saw some
ladies with some fancy hats
and I would say it was like golf course
attire you know like people do wear
college shirts but shorts because it was 100 degrees
but I didn't see any
Rodman jersey
and I was dunking.
Rodman's more of a rebound guy.
Anyway, I was...
He can dunk. He can dunk if he needs to.
No, he's been practicing. He still can't get up there.
I didn't see even one Sears sucker suit or bow tie or any of it.
Oh, interesting.
See, it's also funny, the collectible cup makes it sound like,
like that's something I expect
at a football stadium or a baseball stadium.
But when I think of Churchill Downs,
I think of Kentucky Derby
like a traditional place
that they'd actually serve you in glasses or something.
It was a nice collectible glass.
It was a nice glass.
But I was expecting that stainless steel type of cup.
It wasn't that. It was like a juice glass, maybe. It was glass. But I was expecting that stainless steel type of cup. It wasn't that.
It was like a juice glass, maybe a 10-ounce glass that had a flag on it and some horses.
It was rather nice.
Okay.
I'm still just picked it.
A collectible cup always kind of seems like just another way to make a buck on you.
Right.
Now, question for you, Tim.
Did you see any Russian roots floating around?
Interesting.
Liberty roots.
I went to every customer there, and I looked in their hand.
Not even one Liberty root.
Did you even find a thing of mug root beer on the ground?
Well, yes.
I went to the stables.
Oh, you did?
I looked at the ground where all the horse shit was in the stables.
There's lots of Russian roots all over the place.
Oh, Jesus.
You know, you mentioning Jeff, you just mentioning root beer.
I could go for a mug root beer right now.
Ice cold.
I am so fucking thirsty.
I just chugged a bunch of squirt.
I don't think I had enough water today.
I've noticed also that I have to take out the air conditioners out of your mics these days.
Well, I'm in a different room
now. I'm not in my... Oh, good, good. Well, I can see you're
sweating bullets like me.
Jeff, you have a filter that can get air conditioners
out? Yes, it's called a gate,
my boy. Well, then why the fuck don't I have
my AC on? Because it's not as
good, Tim.
This needs to be pure,
sonically sound material.
My performance would be popping off if I were cool and calm. You don't want us to be pure, sonically sound material. But my performance would be popping off
if I were cool and calm.
You don't want us to be...
Instead, I'm in the hot seat.
That's why at the end of the blowout,
we're all sweaty and sleepy and drunk.
Yeah, my vibe on this podcast
is kind of like someone
who's in a police interrogation
under the hot lights
and I'm about to crack.
Hour five.
He's about to crack.
That was a good mix-up with Where's Timothy Gone
with all the new...
Pretty good mash-up.
I'm the new Danger Mouse.
I love...
Mike DiCenzo turned me on to Dierks Bentley,
and I love Dierks Bentley now.
That song, Gone, I've been gone.
That was Dierks Bentley.
Dierks Bentley in the house. Never heard of him.
Is he a modern country
singer? Yep. It's
like very poppy, auto
tuned
Nashville country, but
it's funny and it's catchy as all hell.
He has that song, Drunk on a Plane.
Oh, yeah.
He got a divorce or something.
Yeah, he's still going on the honeymoon.
Hold on, he's getting drunk on the honeymoon.
So he's buying like margaritas for everybody.
I maintain that we do a blowout best country song.
Yes.
I still maintain that.
You still, after all these years.
Yeah, you keep maintaining it.
Because it's a genre I don't think we know very well
So it would be good to find out what the best is
Is that it for Booze News?
Yep
Yes
That was a
Bottle open dot wave
Very good It gives you two or did you play it twice? That was a bottle open dot wave.
Very good.
It gives you two or did you play it twice?
I was expecting it to be a little more exciting.
Well, I'm excited to hear more about Old Forrester.
I'm not.
I've had just about enough of Old For Forester. Oh, fuck my life.
I am so royally fucked here.
Well, I hope you're in a Louisville state of mind.
I thought it was Louisville.
Then you hear a lot of Louisville.
But then you get there and it's Louisville.
What is it when you get there?
Louisville.
There's no, like, I thought it was Louis or Louis. There's no second syllable to that vowel. It's just Louisville. What is it when you get there? Louisville. There's no, like, I thought it was Louie or Lou-uh.
There's no second syllable to that vowel.
It's just Louisville.
Well, Tim, you know my old joke.
The old joke, the old riddle being,
how do you pronounce the capital of Kentucky?
Lexington.
Louisville, Louisville, or Louisville, Frankfurt.
Fuck!
Frankfurt.
Frankfurt.
Because you get, it's a
trick question because you're pulling
people in, oh, is it Louisville, Louisville?
And they have such a, but it's not even
one of those. That's so cool, Mike.
It's Frankfurt. That is cool. It's a trick.
And it's a funny thing to say,
Frankfurt. Yeah. That's a funny
city. It reminds me of a hot dog sound.
Frankfurt. Hey, you know what I don't
like is when people say glizzy.
I just heard about this
the other day, glizzy. You heard about glizzy?
Yeah, I was down in Coney Island and
I was with Nick Cirelli
of Nick and Brad. Yeah, yeah.
And Nick was telling... It's like a Philly thing?
I don't know. He heard it from somebody
recently and
damn, we didn't know where it
came from. I think they were coming in from Philly.
Hmm. Glizzy.
Yeah, they're really into that, John.
Yeah.
Makes me shudder. Is that Pittsburgh?
Ugh.
Let's get into the drink
of the day.
Seelbach. The Seelbach cocktail you've
had? Never had, never heard.
Yeah, I have a double NH on this
one. Now, I
had not had or
heard, but I
saw an episode of this
travel show called Best Bars in
America one time, and they were in
Louisville, and they went to the
Seelbach Hotel, and they drank the signature
Seelbach cocktail. I was recently in louisville and they went to the seal bach hotel and they drank the signature seal bach cocktail
so i was recently in louisville with some friends so i said hey let's go to the seal bach hotel
we took the historical tour it was very fun the security director like
led us around this guy patrick he did a great job let us around he said you know this was
al capone's secret gambling room.
This is the,
this is the basement beer hall where sweet F Scott Fitzgerald drank.
Ooh.
Do we think that maybe Gatsby is based on George Remus,
the bootlegger?
Oh,
we don't know.
All the kind of,
yes,
we do now.
Surely he was,
um,
probably not,
but it's a,
you know,
fun old hotel with lots of that type of stuff.
But we did the
tour and then we go to the lobby bar right and we say we'll have the signature cocktail the seal
bottle cocktail i i drink it now this is uh this is a cocktail it's a champagne it's got bourbon
it's got triple sec it's got a lot of bitters but it's got champagne and i i drank it and i liked it and i said to myself i got a couple of co-hosts who hate champagne hey i don't hate it well but when i feel like
when we have mimosas and stuff you're like don't lump me in with him he's always popping bottles
and kissing models jeff you you say what i do and then get mad at the fictional scenario.
You're not a fan of the Aperol Spritz.
You're not a fan of the Momosa, are you?
I like a Momosa.
Okay.
Aperol Spritz is fine.
Well, then maybe this is more for Mike.
I said, this is a bubbly that I think these guys might go for.
And it's stiff and it's strong and it's got a lot of
bitters um and and before we get into drinking it how about i tell you the history of the
particular cocktail that sounds about right okay well so um so right well bartender adam seager
right yeah he was working at the seal box in the 90s right that seems kind of cool right seager
seager interesting keep going okay so he was rooting around in some old records and found Right? Yeah. He was working at the Seelbach in the 90s, right? That seems kind of cool, right? Seeger.
Seeger.
Interesting.
Keep going.
Okay.
So he was rooting around in some old records and found this recipe.
Okay.
Old records.
Wait a minute.
What Seeger were you talking about?
Old records.
Well, that was in Detroit.
Bob Seeger was like, take the old records off the shelf.
No, but so he finds this old recipe, right?
And he says it's the long forgotten signature cocktail.
What do you think of that?
He alerts the press.
Big news.
Drink becomes a hit.
It's in cocktail books.
You guys are on board with this, right?
Yeah, yeah.
There's only one problem.
Fuck.
It was a scam.
It was a scam job.
Not unlike the Tinder swindler himself.
Damn.
Theranos. the dropout.
This guy, his conscience got to him.
Dr. Death.
And he eventually.
Cereal.
A million little pieces.
Bad vegan.
Death becomes her.
Are we just talking about our favorite TV shows and movies?
Yeah, Signpost.
Chip and Dale.
No, it was an Elizabeth Holmes situation, guys.
Adam Seeger, the bartender, after years of this story,
and he's featured in all the publications and he's in books,
the guilt gets to him and he's like, fine, okay, I've made the fucking thing up.
I wanted to give our hotel a boost.
I went looking through our old stuff and I hoped to find a cocktail and I didn't.
And I just made the whole thing up.
He only came clean like a few years ago, I think.
Damn.
What is up?
Cal Piquet here with a little post script.
After recording this episode, we also got tipped off that bartender Adam Seeger was arrested for being a sex predator.
So a lot going on with this guy.
I just don't know about that guy.
But here's the rest of the episode.
Enjoy.
There are a lot of different versions of it now, but I've got here the original, the recipe, the fraudulent recipe
that he presented to the world is what we're going to make
today. The fake, old, legendary
recipe. The fake historic recipe.
The sealback cocktail.
One ounce
bourbon. Old Forest, they say
Old Forrester bourbon, but you can use,
because that's kind of like the old school. Tim, I
got it. I'm down to the brand
today. I'm going to do an accurate assessment of this one.
Now, Old Forrester makes an 86 proof and 100 proof.
What'd you get?
86 probably.
86.
Okay.
86 the proof.
That's funny.
Anyway, half ounce of triple sec.
A lot of people use Quantro,
but you can use any triple sec you want.
Seven dashes of Angostura bitters.
That's a lot, guys.
So that's... Okay. Well well as long as that's the
end of the bitters that's fine uh mike yeah seven dashes pay shields bitters
five ounces chilled corbel brute now this could be any champagne or or this this would have like
at the time that was the the accessible domestic sparkling white wine you could be any champagne or this would have, like at the time, that was the accessible domestic sparkling white wine.
You could use any Prosecco or Cava or anything you got.
Five OZs.
One orange twist for garnish.
Combine bourbon, triple sec, and both bitters in a champagne flute.
Stir briefly just to blend.
Pour in the champagne.
Twist orange peel and rub the exterior of it around the rim of the flute.
Drop the twist and the cocktail.
Serve it once.
Now, this sounds strange to me.
Serve it once. I like that part of it.
Serve it once.
With no delay.
You got to rush this out.
When I ordered this at the hotel,
they mixed up the liquor in a mixing glass on ice,
and that was nice,
and I feel like that'll make it a nice cold cocktail.
This is kind of interesting.
Maybe.
So at,
at the hotel,
they,
the lady mixed the bourbon with the triple sec.
And then just,
uh,
once it was in the glass,
she topped it up with the champagne.
But so I'm worried this,
when we make it this way,
it might be a little,
um,
room temp,
but Hey,
hey,
slap heads. if you got time
to maybe chill your champagne flute you could do that or something i don't know i mean i'm is it
against the rules to shake on ice no go for it great i'm doing that i'm also excited i have i
got pay shows bitters too and i haven't had like a real occasion to use them. Wait a minute. I'll take a little into the mouth.
Wait a minute.
Stop it.
Yes, Mike?
There's no ice in this thing.
Correct.
No ice.
Oh, boy.
But he was saying that at the hotel,
they would shake the non-champagne stuff on ice so that you're starting with at least like a cold base.
Yeah, okay.
And then my second round,
I saw somebody else drinking it on the rocks,
so I ordered it on the rocks with like a
big cube and bubbly you know that was good too guys i just had a massive brainstorm i'm gonna
do round one the letter of the law great round two you know i've been innovating with these high
lives yeah what if instead of the champagne you fucking you do the spaghet version where you pour
the bourbon right into the bottle. Tim. Huh?
You're an innovator.
Bourbon and I take a gulp of my high life.
Oh, it's high.
Oh, I thought you were going to pour it into the champagne bottle.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That would be kind of baller though.
I got a little, the champagne bottle I got was one of those little, it looks like a beer bottle.
It's one of those small.
Yeah.
I got, um, when, because of the last champagne-y thing we did,
I got a four-pack of the Korbel Brutes.
Yes.
So I still got some in the fridge.
Nice.
Let me ask you this.
You know how you're allowed to pull a soda off a six-pack
or a beer off a six-pack and buy just that?
Do you think I could have, I got four little Korbels,
same as you, Jeff.
Do you think I could have pulled out just one of those little Korbels
and paid for it at the supermarket?
Yes.
I do. Well, there you have it, folks.
We'll be right back after the ads.
Enjoy the ads. We'll see you in a jiffy.
See you in a jiffy.
And we're back talking sealbacks.
Sealbox?
Sealbach.
It's German brothers that opened the hotel,
but sealback sounds more Kentucky-ish. You can always remember, Jeff,
because it's my two favorite musical artists.
Mike, you've just stumbled into the sealbach quiz.
Oh, shit.
But first, let's talk about the quiz before we've had the drink.
Let's do the drink first.
Wait, so you were asking if it was called seal back, but then the quiz called seal back.
Yes.
All right, let's forget about that for now.
Forget about it for now. Here we go.
First sips.
Ooh.
Okay.
Now that is
sophisticated.
Ooh, Timmy.
It can go down the wrong pipe
easily. Oh, I just poured the whole
thing into my lung.
Tim, you're the only one with a real champagne flute.
Mike and I got a
I got a coupe, he's got a
martini. I think that's
the staple of a married man
has champagne flutes at home.
Because we're always toasting. To our love! To the love and the love of a married man has champagne flukes at home. Because we're always toasting.
To our love.
To the love and the love of the people who came to the wedding.
Does that bring it to them?
Yes, yes.
And let's name them all.
What are your first impressions?
I feel like this drink suffers on my end
from a...
Just kind of a whatever.
I don't even know.
It's in the other room, but it's some dumb champagne.
It was kind of like a...
I think I would have done better with a dry champagne.
What about Corbel Brut?
I'll tell you.
Yeah, this was kind of like a cheapo pink champagne this is suffering on my end too and i don't know what i did wrong
this is not as good as the one i had at that hotel i i didn't have any bourbon and i found a little
a little nip of a weird kind of rye and i think it said it led me awry yeah well you know and
then also my angostura bitters i didn't have have a bottle, so I was using a little spray.
Oh, dude.
I took the little dripper off because we were making so many things where we use a lot of bitters.
So it was tough to do the seven drops or whatever, splashes.
I might have used too much Angostura.
I tried the Old Forrester bourbon ahead of time
I like bourbon
I'm a makers guy or you know a couple other things
the Old Forester
feels a little
piney or something
it's definitely got a different like stank on it
and I feel like combined with the
champagne stank
and all those bitters
it's a weird drink
there's an insane all those bitters it's a weird drink it's a very i mean there's an insane
amount of bitters seven you would never combine these two types of bitters and then the fact
you're doing seven of each is bonkers can i i gotta say i i've never seen old forester before
so i looked it up i'm a little disappointed with the labeling. Huh. It's pretty
with the label on the bottle.
I bet you were picturing Old Fitzgerald,
which has a bomb-ass bottle.
Let's see. No, I wasn't picturing anything, but
So just a blank?
Your mind was blank? It was blank,
and I was picturing
trees and a person cutting down
a tree. I think this looks classic.
I think they did a good job on the label.
I feel like...
I think I should put less champagne
and let this taste like more of a whiskey drink.
Mine's kind of sweet on the Corbell side.
Yeah.
This isn't my fave.
I'm sure by the time I'm done, I'll like it more.
Tastes woody.
But not...
And it gives me a buzz yeah that's a toy story drink
something's off with my bitters as well did you guys do you guys like peychauds have you ever
taken any to the dome no i did i didn't sip any of them but i took a little smell of each and
the peychauds definitely have a um more of a sting i think it's got a got a New Orleans kind of... It's spicy, but it's also black licorice-y at the same time.
Because it's also not Angostura, but aromatic, right?
Like, it's just sort of like nondescript.
Like, it's a blend of spices.
Yeah, they won't tell you what spices are in there.
I tell you, I definitely would rather have had that root beer I was talking about before.
Yeah, well, you also said you just haven't had enough water today,
so maybe a nice glass of water.
I should have gotten water while I was in the other room.
Damn it.
It's not going to be until next break that I can have a sip of water.
I should put a water cooler here right next to my computer.
No, you'll drip.
You'll drip onto the mainframe.
Difficult to describe why this drink grates on me so.
I've got a cardboardy thing going on.
It is doing the thing where I'm kind of getting
little pings and tings
on my tongue, like a little
it first kind of tastes like this, and then like this,
this, this, this. Yeah.
But I'm not loving that. I wish
it was colder. I wish I had mixed it up in a
mixing glass. I did that.
But Tim, I'm curious to i oh i
wish i could have tasted what you tasted what i tasted was not champagne at all just bourbon
you know and i think it probably helped that she um you know uh mixed it in a mixing glass
but what i was tasting was orangey bourbon with a little bubble to it. Just topped,
barely topped with champagne.
This is five ounces of champagne.
Fuck that.
Yeah.
I wonder if there's a way to do like half champagne,
half soda,
or just like a,
it wasn't even turned into all the way into like a spritz.
It was a pretty stiff drink and I drank it slowly and I,
and I thanked her for it.
Tim, you got the right idea, though, with the High Life.
Round two stylies?
That'll be good.
I feel like I'm drinking this quickly because I want it gone.
Yeah, I want it out of here.
Way too much champagne.
And there's only one way I know how to get rid of it.
Bye, bitch.
I'm officially blaming this recipe as too much champagne
and it making for a weird sweet drink.
If it was less champagne, you'd be getting like more of a Trinidad Sour vibe where you're like, wow, that's a lot of bitters, you know?
Yeah, right, right, right.
Maybe that's what's my, the thing I was saying about getting all the different tastes at a different time.
That was a bittery drink too.
So that's where that comes from.
The Trinidad Sour.
If you want dimension, you're gonna need
some bitters.
And that's the truth.
This is the first recipe where
they tell you not just
to express the citrus, which
I always do now.
I think we all always do. Express your
citrus. But they tell you, rub it around the rim. Go around the world Which I always do now. I think we all always do. Express, you say.
But they tell you, rub it around the rim.
Go around the world with that one.
I go around the whole glass.
I love it.
I love that citrus, the twist, the oil from a twist is supposed to be on your hands.
You're meeting people later that night.
Hey, Tim Kelpack, it's great to meet you.
You stink like lemon.
Wow, I'm green. You stink like a rotten lemon.
That was a celebrity cocktail maker jack shram oh that's
what it was i was like some bartender at some point told us not some bartender celebrity
he said he rubs it all over like the he's like you give me some citrus i'm gonna rub it all
over the glass all over the tray i wipe my butt with this shit man i'm using instead of fucking
sherman okay yeah you want it going through the air.
It charms everyone, and it's packed.
I'm orange, orange.
I'm charmed.
This is a southern drink.
You guys spend any time in the down south?
Kentucky is the gateway to the south.
You're basically in Ohio.
Our tour, basically, was the substantial amount of time that
we spent that i spent down south south carolina counts yeah south carolina is probably the deepest
south i've been i've been to uh i've been to georgia florida but that's i've been to florida
we gotta do we gotta get our butts to new orleans huh we gotta go to patreon we gotta go to uh
nashville mitch is in new orleans that's right oh yeah they're shooting twisted metal down there butts to New Orleans, huh? We gotta go to Nashville.
Mitch is in New Orleans.
That's right.
Oh yeah, they're shooting Twisted Metal down there.
Twisted Metal!
Let's twist again like we did last metal!
Chubby checker.
My grandparents, I have family down in Florida
in Sarasota and stuff.
There was a creek running
through the backyard of like
all these rows of houses and we had small children and they said watch out for gators
crazy to think of um the local pest as a prehistoric beast
i mean i hate gators but i love their aid yeah and you don't get the aid without the Gator.
Is that a say?
Is Gatorade,
was it like a University of Florida thing? Yes.
Yeah, it was like developed.
Florida State thing?
Yeah, by like the coach or something.
Wow.
That's cool.
Gatorade.
I mean, I've been drinking the Gatorade.
Imagine if it was up in Michigan, University of Michigan, Wolverineade.
Or...
Oh, kshing!
Fuck yeah.
It's kind of interesting, Jeff.
The colors of University of Michigan are yellow and navy blue.
Kind of like Wolverine.
Kind of like Wolverine.
Yeah, he's yellow and black.
Wolverine.
You think that escaped me, Mike?
Only my favorite fucking guy.
Are you guys talking about Logan?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, Logan.
I call him Logan.
The man.
He's the man, man.
He's the man now, man.
Hey, they're going to cast the new Wolverine.
Ooh.
Do you think I got what it takes?
No.
I posted that recently.
Tim! Well, I think we've covered this.
If you played
Wolverine in a movie, it's going to be a goddamn Usher's
Delight.
Empty
theater, man.
Usher's Delight.
Jeff, if you
tomorrow, they were like, hey, you're the new Wolverine.
You're going to be in this new Marvel action movie.
Do you think you could do, and this is a question for all three of us.
Do you think you could get on set the next day and the lines are like, you're on a green screen, you're on wires and stuff.
And it's like, ah, no.
Could you do that i think it would be much like my recurring dream
where i'm the musical guest on snl and i can't read the sheet music i think you would get on set
and you say i don't know my lines but i mean that's just it it's a skill set it's still set
to be like thora we gotta get back to the crystal now!
I'll stab you with my
very claw! Thanos!
You come
back to me now!
He loves him. He loves
Thanos.
Let me wear the bejeweled gauntlet!
Thanos, there's one of your hands
that I much prefer!
And I love your big purple head.
Yeah.
That guy's head is so big, you need the whole fucking...
No, you need the entire Avenger team to get that guy in a headlock.
Yeah, yeah.
You do.
You know who else's head is big?
It's Tony Stark. he's kind of stuck up
we have our own Tony Stark and Mr.
Mr. Elon Musk
stop
he fucking wishes
Musk is a must
Musk is a must
I get tricked I get a lot of
Instagram reels that are sort of inspirational
for some reason
I send those your way.
Thank you.
I get a lot of the...
There's one that says, like, Elon Musk giving a speech is pretty
nice. He's like, we have to
find something we look forward to.
We have to have joy to be alive.
And I was like, man, Instagram
must think that I'm fucking suicidal.
Showing me
this video every morning. Well, they probably heard the last
couple episodes of this podcast where you're like,
I'm gonna die at 60 because I ate 20 steaks.
That's joyous! I eat
20 ribeyes a year!
You're a fool! Tim, the
cruel irony, that which brings
you joy brings you closer to the grave.
Guys, here's the thing. After I pass,
you should make a movie about me, and
it's like... I'd rather you should make a movie about me.
I'd rather make one now with you in it.
I'm a bad actor. What was the Mickey Rourke movie?
The Wrestler.
Me eating my final steak just like that. Your doctors are like, no, don't do it.
But they were locked out.
The cardiologist is like a seismologist and he's
looking at a printout he's like oh my god if he eats one more ribeye his his cholesterol levels
are gonna burst and you guys like tim you can't do it and i proudly sit down at the table and you
hear me order i'm at uh morton's one ribeye medium rare yeah and we're like, he's gone full cholesterol. And you have like a
2001 vision.
Because I flipped from 49%
to 51% cholesterol
and I turned into a big steak.
I'd like to see you wrestle
your last steak.
God, I love ribeyes. I had one the other day.
I had a bad one the other day at the airport.
Don't eat anything at the airport outside of like a burger or...
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
I've eaten with Tim at the airport.
He knows.
He knows what to do.
I'll tell you what I do, almost exclusively wings.
Layover, wings.
Layover longer, second plate of wings.
Do you think the wings are so good because they're at the airport
and they're just accustomed to like wings being around all the time yeah that's the uh the pilots
are like oh chicken versions of our favorite i know that oh jeff we had we had those good kind
of sausage egg bowls at that um that asian bowl place at la that's what i'm talking about i had
i had mcdonald's i think at the Denver airport, and it was bad McDonald's.
It was like, it tasted different.
Like, the recipe was different.
Did they have a shamrock shake?
Oh, I know.
Where did we go where we saw a Dasano's pizza in an airport?
Oh, Charleston, South Carolina.
Yeah, right.
We only know Dasano as Hollywood.
And like, frankly, a good la pizza place on
yeah like like a place you would be like on a foodie list of like yeah go geek out on this
good-ass pizza um and then um and i didn't know there were other locations at all or like maybe
i'd heard that it's not the only one i mean mean, I think it is kind of... There is another DeSano.
Maybe you could do that, Wolverine.
That was pretty good, Jeff.
Thanks.
I know that's Yoda.
That's Yoda. The little green man with the ears.
He's a green boy.
Baby Yoda was cute.
Come on.
Baby Yoda.
But Tim, go ahead.
You were saying?
God, he took the internet device stormed in.
What if the original DeSano pizza location
was at the Charlleston airport and they
spun off to hollywood damn damn man damn oh man i watched damn daniel the other day it holds up
so you sat down on the couch you said i'm gonna put on a movie
pop up some popcorn what am i gonna watch yep and i watched damn daniel for damn daniel 2014
damn daniel is a 45 second video i watched it and uh was he back at it with the white vans
he sure was i like that that's one of the best that's what i'm saying i use it almost every day
I use it almost every day Damn
Daniel
Alright folks
We're gonna go make another one of these
I'm gonna do the walkie talkie
High life
Spaghet
Version
And I'm getting a water
I'm gonna change it up
But I don't know how yet
I'm gonna freestyle
And then when we come back
We're gonna do the
Seal box quiz This is cool Knowing there's a quiz Usually it's a surprise Yeah And then when we come back, we're going to do the Seelbach quiz.
This is cool knowing there's a quiz.
Usually it's a surprise.
Yeah.
Mike sauntered into it like a fucking rube.
I hope I sauntered into some correct answers.
All right, I'll see you soon.
Bye, folks.
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now we're back with round two final thoughts and a quiz damn bounty of riches on this episode segment three um i did ounce and a half a bourbon two, a full ounce of triple sec.
Oh, Jeff. Way less
champagne and cut it with a little
club soda and then a big old ice cube.
And?
And?
Still unremarkable.
But better?
I mean, it's fine.
I don't want to tip my hand on final thoughts.
But this is final thoughts Okay
No this is technically second sips
Yeah yeah this is second sips
Don't jump the gun
Okay well my second sips look I got the
High Life version I did at Spaghetti Stylies
Built into Miller High Life
The Champagne of Beers
He's gonna to like it.
I'll tell you this.
Way better than this.
I don't know how I fucked up the original cocktail, but I did.
This is way better.
I'm not telling Slopheads to run out and do this,
but I'm intrigued by the possibility of any time there's champagne in a cocktail.
Right.
For example, the champagne cocktail or the French 75.
Doing it in a high life instead could be intriguing for the slob heads.
For my second sip, I did just water.
I didn't want to make another one of these,
which leads me into my final thoughts.
Order not again for me.
But are you feeling hydrated right now?
Starting to. You're drinking out hydrated right now? Starting to.
Just drinking out of a big plastic green cup.
I remember that cup.
Jeff, final thought.
My final thought, it's weird.
I feel like I'm in this no man's land of,
technically, if they were like,
hey, you want a seal box?
I'd be like, is it free?
Yeah.
It's not.
Or like, we're doing seal box.
I'd say, fine. But I would would also steer this is a skippable
one listeners yeah this is what what the the young folks would call mid that's a good way
put it jeff skippable now let me ask you this didn't make this one it wouldn't wouldn't kill
you does it bum you out you picture your co-host tim he's sitting at a bar in a hotel in Louisville oh yeah maybe my co-host will like
this oh I'm thinking about them while I'm on the road oh this oh maybe those guys will finally like
me and then and then what happens you Tim we shut you down okay Tim we don't like you we don't like
what you stand for we're not shutting you down.
We're shutting this whole drink down.
Well, unfortunately, I'm with you.
The one that I had in Kentucky was delicious.
This, I blame Adam Seeger, the recipe maker,
because I'll tell you what,
PunchDrink.com has a different recipe
that looks a little bit better,
less bitters, stirred in mixing glass.
My bartender at the Seelbach Hotel did a fantastic job.
So this thing I'm drinking is an atrocity.
I'm going to dump it out.
This highlight version is at least,
I'm going to keep on drinking it through the Patreon episode.
But no, Not a good
episode of a podcast.
Delete this one from your phone.
Yeah, just throw your phone onto the ground.
Dude, we...
Sometimes I... I am so
buried in my mobile sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes we
start this episode and you're still tip-tap typing
away. I was just doing it myself. I didn't even listen
to what you were talking about with the drink.
Were you on fucking FanDuel? What's going on over there?
No, I was just kind of cruising around.
I was answering a text. Yeah, meanwhile,
I'm texting Pat Babbitt.
About what?
Why are you texting Pat?
Probably.
No.
You don't have to tell us what you're texting about.
No, he does does he owes us that
It's a really gruesome
Health medical issue
Does this look normal to you
It's digestive
This is on my dad's nuts
What do you think
And I'm like I'm gonna need a closer look
I'll be right over
Maybe swing around to the ass
Well the time for jokes has come to an end
Thank you
It's time now for the
Affirmentioned
Seelbach quiz
Mike's two favorite musical artists
In which I will give you a factoid
And you will tell me
If it is Grammy-winning artist Seal
or composer Johann Sebastian Bach.
He's got dark splotches on his face, under his eyes, Seal.
Yeah, okay, we'll ignore that.
One point for Tim Kalkakis!
Yes!
Oh my God.
Hey, I should get a fucking point for guessing the quiz
No is there a point quadrupler
I'll use it right now
Here's the thing
In the seal box quiz
You can bring in your own questions
Which Tim did
Perfect
But also
Okay had crazy hair
Okay so now it's one to one
Had no hair seal come on so now it's one to one. Had no hair, Seal. Come on.
Okay, now it's two to one.
Is named after a fucking swimming dog, Seal.
All right.
I'm nixing the rule.
Had a kiss from a rose, Seal.
The rule is nixed.
Was in the Batman Forever, Seal. Stevie Nicks.
Okay.
Based on that rule, it's two to one, Tim.
But Mike, you're right.
I will award you a point for guessing the quiz.
Okay, so we're tied.
So you're going into it.
We haven't asked the first question.
It's two to two.
Wow.
It's kind of a first here on the pod.
Number one.
This artist lost both his parents at 10 years old sad seal bach michael bach thank you michael bach
number two despite being culturally christian and reflecting theistic values in his work
box this artist is not religious still bach mike you religious Mike you got seal
You got seal
Seal reflects Christian values
Yeah Kiss Him a Rose
Number three
Well he does have that one song
Easter Basket Sunday
Easter Basket Blues
Number three
Easter Basket Blues
No eggs
I didn't get an egg
no i didn't get an egg not a cat buried in the scene
okay enough jokes i said number three this artist married his cousin buck jerry lee lewis
michael wait was this the Jerry Lee Lewis?
Tim, is your internet as fast as it could be?
I thought this was the Jerry Lee Lewis quiz.
Number four.
Mike, finish your sip.
I'm done.
This artist spent four weeks in jail.
Seal.
Chuck Berry.
Bach.
Mike Bach.
That's correct.
It's nice because Tim's doing fake answers,
and I can just keep going back and forth Between Steele and Bach
Yes in 1717 Bach was
Tossed in jail because he demanded
Release from his employer
Duke Wilhelm Ernst
He wanted to work for another
He wanted to work for Prince Leopold
And the Duke said fine but you're going to jail
For four weeks
Holy shit.
Damn, dude.
I think jail back then was maybe different than it is now.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say prison was different back then.
Composer jail is different from United States jail.
Well, I have a whole thing about the industrial prison complex,
but we don't have time for that right now.
Not during the quiz, Tim.
Thank you very much.
Question number five.
Before he became a successful musician,
this artist dreamt of becoming an architect.
Seal.
Ooh, seal.
And that one's toss-up-y.
Give it to Timmy.
I'll give it to Timmy.
Number six.
This artist fathered 20 children, 10 of whom survived into adulthood buck oh my god
holy jesus 20 children same same woman uh no no no uh at least two
who got that one how many kids this uh seal have wait who got that one? How many kids does Seal have?
Wait, who got that one?
And answer honestly.
Tim.
Okay.
I think that was Mike.
But isn't Seal married to Heidi Klum?
Was, was.
I keep a tidy room for her.
Okay, MC Paul Barman.
Hey, wait a second.
That song, MC Paul Barman?
Yeah. Cock a mobster. You played me that song mc parl paul barman yeah i don't cock a mobster you you played me that song and then
and i don't even i never even really actively listened to this song but then the second verse
of tom collins is kind of based on that i go to hell and back from a sazerac it's because mike
would say i'd keep a tidy room for heidi klum around the house interesting but i was taking
it from i I didn't,
that wasn't my thing I made up.
But it's like,
that was like a,
it's not like that was a song
that I had on my phone.
I only ever heard that
because you said it.
Interesting.
Okay, number seven.
The Caped Crusader.
Infamous for his theatrics.
Batman Forever,
seal, kiss for real.
And accessories.
Bach.
Can I,
can I say the fucking question?
Yes, it's Bach.
The Caped Crusader, infamous for his theatrics and accessories,
never wore a powdered wig like this artist.
Bach.
Yeah, I'm going to give that to Mike.
Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach.
Bach, Bach, Bach, Bach.
What is the score, Jeff?
Okay.
Well, hold on.
I mean, Mike, you're winning by quite a bit.
You didn't run him down, did you?
No, I got it.
It's seven to three.
No, seven to four, Mike.
Seven to four, Mike.
Question number eight.
Is there a quadrupler in this quiz?
I'm afraid not.
Shit.
Well, we'll see as we
bear down on the final question. But for now,
number eight.
This artist almost threw his best
known composition in the
trash. Bob. Seal.
Michael, seal.
Kiss from a rose. He didn't
think it was shit. What? Threw it in the
trash? Oh, it's the best.
The trash.
I'm throwing this out.
Okay, now hold on.
Let me calculate the points as we head into the final question.
If there is a point quadrupler, I want to use it on one of my points.
Who's hosting Jeopardy now?
I hope it's Alex Trebek.
Oh, stop it.
What?
He's Canadian.
The score now is eight points for Mike and four points for Tim.
Oh, shit.
I wonder if there's a doubler.
The good news is that question number nine is worth nine points okay perfect
fuck is question nine the last question it is yeah yeah this artist was criticized for performing
at a dictator's party in 20 seal in 2020
who was the dictator Mike you got it
you got the question
wow
you're talking about
Kim Jong-un
no the head of the
Chechen Republic
Ramzan Kadyrov
so I
he's good
come on
you can perform
in 2011
you didn't let me
finish the question
and Seal responded
on Twitter
by going
so everybody
yelled at Seal
and everybody yelled at Million Dollar Baby also.
What's her name?
Swank.
Swank.
And Hilary Swank apologized.
Because this guy has been party to many, many human rights violations.
And then Seal took to Twitter and said, by going there, I played music, capital, for the Chechnyan people.
I'm a musician, capital, and would appreciate if you leave me out of your politics.
Ooh.
You also don't understand, folks, that I made a shit ton of money.
Yeah, I think he got paid half a million dollars for performing.
Oh, that's not that much.
Man, those private events, people make shit tons of money.
Also, it's sticky with the fucking, you like uh big thief was gonna play in tel aviv
but there's like a a boycott going on but one of the band members is from there and that's all it's
a sticky wicked right this is why the sloppy boys only really play in la and new york right and i
will see you at ivanka's next weekend ivanka we're available and we love your brother Don Jr.
And that's it for the Seelbach quiz.
Great job, Mike.
And good effort, Tim.
Nice hustle out there.
So what did I get, 17 points?
Thanks, I'm gonna try even harder next week.
What's that, Mike?
I got 17 points to four.
17 to four.
Just because that last question was such a doozy.
Yeah, nine points.
That's tough.
I will say the drink is talking to me now.
It's making me sleepy.
I'll say that I'm fully drunk in a way that doesn't happen too much anymore in this pod.
But I like it.
I like that feeling.
I like the feeling of my blood alcohol content being high.
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you get 90 more episodes i also think that people just don't you're you're like oh it's a bonus
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and it's a whole library of material it's like you plunk down five dollars and you get 90 hours of
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i don't want to even be listening to this i don't want to be listening to that shit they should put
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Oh.
Oh, yeah.
And then also, you just got a big free taste of it with the mall episode.
That's a good episode.
I like it when we go out in the world and we're mixing it up with civilians.
One of our best ones was when we each ran a mile.
It's kind of similar to Timmy's Travels, that popular segment on the main podcast.
You're out in the world. I gotta put
some Dierks Bentley on our summer playlist.
Do it.
Drunk on a Plane. We're doing it.
I'm on a plane.
Is it that song?
Wait, what is it? That's Nirvana?
What is that? Nirvana.
Ah, Nirvana. Kirk Cabane.
Kirk Cocaine. Okay, Nirvana. Kirk Cabane. Kirk Cocaine.
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