The Sloppy Boys - [UNLOCKED] Memos and Demos
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Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys Blowing, I'm the Big Head Bopper sitting here with
Jeffy D.
Hey, folks.
And Timmy K.
What is up?
Now, we talk a lot about Tim's what is up.
It's a staple. It's a standard. It's great.
But Jeff, I don't think we talk enough about Jeff's hey, folks.
It's got a funny cadence to it. Hey, folks. It's got a funny cadence to it.
Hey, folks.
It's a grower.
Yeah.
It's an on the way home.
What does he say anyway?
What's he talking about?
You're driving your car home.
You're like, what is it?
What is it about that guy?
Guys be nuts.
You listen to the podcast at your friend's house as a group,
because I think that's how people mostly listen to podcasts these days.
And on the way home, you're thinking about.
Because everybody knows, got any cheese?
Or did I do that?
But nobody thinks, nobody thinks of his castmate.
Go home, Steve.
Right.
Laura. No. Yeah. No. thinks of his cast of mate go home steve right laura no yeah no well i guess everybody said go
home steve kind of the whole yeah the whole family i was thinking the mom who was not named laura
who's the harriet harriet harriet that's harriet well i think go home steve is more laura when i
think about but certainly harriet was not the biggest steve herself. Now, Harriet was the security guard or elevator operator or something on Perfect Strangers.
Oh, that's funny.
And it's funny because so Family Matters is a spinoff of Perfect Strangers,
but then you would think that Reginald Val Johnson's character was based on his diehard guy, but no.
You would think.
You'd think so.
Well, yeah.
Well, we're not here to talk about Harriet or Reginald Val Johnson.
We don't have to shit chat too much today because we do have a beaver.
I know.
I think we should get right in this because this is kind of a fun one.
We got a lot of stuff to listen to.
Yeah.
Today, folks.
Now, you know us mostly as, if you're listening to this you know us as a podcast who does a patreon blowout
but you probably also know you know us as podcast who does a patreon blowout
hey let's admit right up top let's get it out in the open. The drink of the week.
No, don't tell anyone.
Got us kind of schmacked.
Don't tell anyone my secret shame.
I don't want anyone to know.
Of all the drinks, we do crazy shit on this pod.
And you think, oh, you guys are going to be tipsy.
This drink of the week didn't sound like that scary, but I feel schmacked.
Sneaker upper. i want people to
i just think i'm dumb i lack brain power brain power is not my forte so today we are uh yes so
we are the podcast but we also are a band yes and we time to time, when we're coming up with our albums
of funny and fun music, we put in little notes in our phones, little demos, little ideas
for things.
Sure.
So today we're going to reach back into those memo apps, voice memo apps, and play some
of demos and memos is what this is called. So
I have some demos. I have some little, uh, bits of songs that we never made, but
it would be kind of fun to see what they could have been.
I also liked that this is coming off of, uh, now and then now and then, because did that song not come from a John demo?
And how great would it be if all three of us pass away?
And then somebody takes these memos and turns into a hit song.
Listen, I'll do those hit songs myself.
I don't need someone else to wait till I'm passed away.
I don't need Kang or digging up our old fucking fossils and making a million dollars.
King Kang? Kang!
You better hang the nicest wreaths you can find on our... Kang's older than us.
You should know, little us.
Yeah, but he takes good care of himself, not
like us. That's true.
Real quick, Kang gave me
a nice gift the other day.
I did a show and he came. He gave me
a nice little Montreal Canadiens
old school keychain and a bottle opener.
What are those twist bottles?
That's great.
Is this the fucking Kanger show?
I'm going to Montreal this Christmas.
How dare you even joke about that?
Are you?
Yeah.
Oh, that's cool.
For Christmas Day?
No.
Then take it back, Tim.
Christmas night?
For the holiday season at one point.
Well, what I wanted to say, if I'm ever allowed to talk on this podcast is-
Please.
Please.
I opened up my phone being like, yeah, yeah.
We're talking like embarrassing voice notes and memos and stuff.
That's-
I immediately, like an archaeologist, just found an amazing narrative of tracking one song through the whole process.
So we have different things.
We found different things.
That's great.
That's fun.
Fun and funky.
I will say I only scratched the surface with mine.
I started way back.
I have stuff starting in 2018.
And then I was like, yeah, I got a couple hours before the show.
I'm going to pull some gems and maybe cut some together.
And then I saw how much more there was to go.
And I only made it like a third of the way through all the memos on my phone.
Great. This should be recurring. This was very fun.
I think that people are going to really enjoy listening to this.
Cause I know I feel, I felt, you know, you typically we record and I'm like,
Oh great. We got to do this shit shit i do it only for the money yeah yeah tonight i i thought oh great we gotta do this i do it for joy of life joie de vivre yes yes great tim as they say in
montreal joie de vivre. Your enthusiasm is infectious.
I have a lot.
I was also just the tip of the iceberg.
I have a lot.
And they were funny, embarrassing, insightful, surprising.
Some things that I was like, oh, I didn't know I did that.
Yes.
There were a bunch on mine that I listened to and was like, I don't remember that.
And I don't know what it meant.
Oh, I have a handful of these where I am.
Fuck the. Oh, I have a handful of these where I am. Fuck the...
Oh, shit.
Tim, I like the idea of starting with yours
because... Yeah, I'll make that call, Jeff.
I agree with you, but I'll make the call.
Definitely
sort of the host here.
So, yeah. He's got a little structure to it.
You know, that's good. He's got a nice little thing
going, which is nice.
Mine's all scattered.
So, the big hand bopper gives me approval?
That's right.
If Jeff says it's okay.
Kidding.
I make the calls here.
I give the final approval if Jeff says it's okay.
Yes.
Let's play Tim's first.
Well, I'll talk you through my thing which was i went to my
voice notes app scrolled all the way back and then uh i've what i found was tom collins and i said
this is great to me because the first single off the first album it's the first track off the first
album it's one of our it's in our top five on
spotify as far as listen so people are familiar with it it is it is a live favorite too that's a
that's an ender it's yeah it's definitely kind of ends the set uh and and it's a banger and what i
remember so um previous to this i'm gonna play a few different tracks that's going to show the whole song exploder style, the whole arc of the song.
But first, my first memory was pre voice memo was I had had kicking around for a long time, just a chord progression and a melody.
And the chords was the three chords of the,
what ended up being the verse.
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
And then I would whistle over it,
which is not even the melody of the verses,
but eventually would be the guitar solo.
But those things had been kicking around i lyrics are fun for me and
chords and melody and stuff are harder for me so i had that kicking around for like a long ass time
but i didn't have any usually the way it works for me is like i need to have like a
excited i i'm excited about an idea for the song that makes me want to sit down and work on it.
So I think that what made me record this demo was Birthday Boys era.
I had a lot of sketches.
Like, you know, the Coke sketch, the Coke guys, the Pepsi guys, the Tab guys.
We wrote that sort of collaboratively.
Hanford had done a draft and then I did the final draft. But we liked doing stuff where it was like the guys who are the face of it.
So the Coke sketch was something we did at UCB and then on our IFC show.
But remember I had a sketch called grocery dudes where like one guy was
Trader Joe.
Another guy was Ralph.
One guy's Gelson Albertson.
And then I had played around with a song idea for like later,
like Bartles and James,
like the two guys that made the wine cooler.
So I think that that was sort of a thing that was just a personification
personification.
So we've,
we've been,
we've started the band,
the sloppy boys.
We've been,
we've played at Highland park,
uh,
uh,
TV and, and we don't have a lot of original songs
but we've decided to make an album and it's it's july 9th 20 nope yes july 9th 2017
and i take that melody and then i take the idea of what if tom collins was a guy
and then here's what I sang into my little phone.
Ooh, Tim.
It's pretty figured out.
I sent a vanmo to Venmo
To say thanks for the sun
I sent a Venmo to Venmo
To say thanks for the sun
It took the girls to meet my words
I sent a PayPal to the great cows
At the liquor store
Ladies at the grape trees
At the vineyard tour
I want to
Express my gratitude
and
if I ever meet
Tom Collins I'd like to
shake his hand
he got me drumming
you're very Dylan
I know
it's like speak singing
dope
that's it that's it It's like speak singing. Dope.
Oh, nice.
That's it?
That's it.
That's the beginning sounded like Pinball Wizard.
Should have been.
I should have written Pinball Wizard.
It's funny.
I mean, you pretty much had it going on there.
I mean, it's pretty.
Yeah, there's like minor, uh, uh,
lyric changes,
but that's the main thing.
And then,
uh,
a matter of weeks,
I don't remember what happens between then and this next thing,
but like you blacked out because you were in such a artistic tizzy,
just artistic euphoria.
I think I,
I,
I retreated to a cave in the North Pole. Yeah.
And I got really down to it.
But then this is from just
a matter of weeks later.
This is another phone voice note.
August 24th, 2017.
A month and a half later.
And it was, this says
it says like Tom Collins
ending.
Ending. Verse two. it says like Tom Collins ending ending verse 2
if I ever meet Tom Collins
I'll kiss him on the lips
and squeeze his little hips
cause he's gave me some sips
of his chicken lips.
And then later it's like,
I've got an edible arrangement for my travel agent.
Cause I had a Corona.
Well,
my trip to Pomona.
Hey. Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey. Hey. Hey house full of kids.
A big house full of children.
Yeah.
And the future that we're building.
Cause he got me.
Oh, yeah, he got me.
He got me drunk now, man.
Now, man, that's funny. He got me drunk now, man. Now, man, that's funny.
You got me drunk now, man.
If I ever meet Tom Collins, we'll have to get a room.
I think you just do it again.
And I'll make him my groom.
You can shut the shit up.
Let him cook.
Let past Timmy cook.
And a big future that we're building.
The big future we're building.
I like that you go high.
That we're building.
That's cool.
Yeah, that is cool.
Pretty figured out, man.
Which is similar to how you've done comedy scripts yeah i feel like i eventually got more comfortable uh just taking out the recorder
and going and like hitting record and having no idea and see what happens like whatever comes out
comes out but it feels like in 2017 the smartphone technology was new enough to me that i was like i i've maybe like
thought about this for an hour before i start to record something yeah you're like i don't
want to waste space on my phone i gotta put down the good version yeah probably i was i probably
had like like uh before i had an iphone i had like uh it was like uh it wasn't samsung it's a
weird off-brand phone.
But it felt, probably felt to me like, well, storage on my phone is worth something.
That like, when you watch the Beatles.
Get Back.
Yeah, Get Back.
A ton of that.
And you're listening to it and you're like, you hear them say the wrong words and you're like, oh, you'll get it.
You'll get it.
You fool. I remember Paul being like, being like, you hear them say the wrong words and you're like, oh, you'll get it. You fool.
I remember Paul being like, being like,
Jojo Johnson.
I was like, it's not Jojo Johnson.
You're so dead.
You're so committed to Jojo Johnson.
You're such an idiot.
You idiot.
That's such a stupid name, you fucking idiot.
And then I got two more things to play.
Wait, before you play them though,
like, so you're adding parts of the song to this,
but I also like that.
You were like,
uh,
as far as calling out the primitive versions,
I,
you got me drunk now,
man,
instead of Tom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man,
name him,
name,
name him.
And then also we got a Corona on my trip to pomona that's funny i was
going for a joke of like taking a trip to a place that's boring or whatever but then you you're also
melodically like you were kind of going down instead of up uh what was it future that we're
building oh yeah i'm happy that it became a more of a belter instead of like I'm Bob Dylan and I'm
Tom Petty and I'm yeah and I'm Jacob Dylan too I'm Bob Dylan and I'm Tom Petty and I'm Jacob
not bad they gotta get the traveling Wilburys back together with their new member jacob dylan
as well so the next thing uh i have two more tracks but i i have no recollection of those
here's the first thing that i do remember was i took those voice notes and i sat down at my laptop
opened up a garage band and with my little fingers on the drums that's what's really funny to me to
me about this is keyboard typing which uh and then the the thing we've talked about with laptop demos
if you live in an apartment you have upstairs the neighbors you can't sing too loud so you can hear
me yes this is a full this was meant to be a full beautiful recording that jeff and mike are gonna love
but like i can't sing too loud because i'll be told to be cool i mean no one on my neighborhood
ever in my neighborhood ever complains but still i'm embarrassed to be singing yes it's not so much
that you'll be told to be quiet it's just that you need to live amongst these people and they're
gonna know that you're a guy who sings little songs in his room. And also at this point, this next thing is a week later, September 1st, 2017.
I'm not like openly in a band yet or anything.
I'm just like a guy who's like, I don't know what I'm singing.
I'm just a guy singing about a drink.
I'm just a guy singing in a laptop, hoping for the best.
This is the GarageBand laptop
demo that I made
to play for you guys.
Wow.
It's pretty
faithful so far. Did you have a bass?
That's my fingers
on the keyboard.
I sent a Venmo to Bethmo to say thanks for the suds.
You gave a great buzz to me and my buds.
I sent a PayPal to the great gal at the Costco store.
And a lady with a great tree on the vineyard tour.
All I want to do is show my gratitude.
And if I ever meet
Tom Collins I'd like to shake
his hand
you got me
you got me
it's funny that my little fingers do that
and that inspired you to do it on real drums
but you still kept kind of the same
I was like I came up with that
no I didn't I did it with that. No, I didn't.
I did what the laptop did.
You told me you did.
Even the choice to stick with
what my little index fingers did.
I made the choice.
Oh, that's new. I'd send you a fiber for another screwdriver and leave a Mondo tip for a mint julep.
Oh, I'd thank you a warm lip for a dark and stormy.
I'd give you a hickey for a gin lime ricky.
I'd dress like a senorita for a salty margarita.
I'd chop up my weenie for a dirty martini.
If you know what I mean, I know you know what I mean.
And if I ever meet Tom Collins
I kiss him on the lips
And squeeze his little hips
Do some twirls and dips
Hold him in my grips
To thank him for the sims
Cause they got me
Oh yeah they got me That Oh yeah, they got me.
That was all pretty much there.
Three sheets to the wind.
Wind home.
And now here's me busting out the original melody.
This is what you had been like whistling to yourself?
Yeah, which I thought was going to be the main melody of the song at some point.
Yep.
yourself. Yeah, which I thought was going to be the main melody of the song
at some point.
Ooh.
Nasty.
I'll send
an edible arrangement
to my travel
agent, cause they
had free booze
on my car.
So Captain Morgan.
Budweiser frogs and Budweiser Clydesdales.
Yeah, not bad.
We're a ship-shaped crew, so don't come knocking
when Jackie Daniels, Jimmy Beam, and John Walker are rocking.
When the BAC hits 3.3, that's when we tap the Rockies.
Not long enough.
Hey, can you tell me what's Australian for beer?
And then what's Australian for puke?
Cause I just chundered here.
If you know what I mean.
Dear God, do you know what I mean?
And if I ever meet Tom Collins, What I mean And
If I ever meet Tom Collins
We'll have to get a room
And I'll make him my crew
With a big house full of children
And the future that we're building
Will grow old God willing
Cause he got me
You bet you got me.
You bet you got me.
You bet.
Got me drunk now, Tom.
Ooh, Tom.
There you go.
Horn blast.
Well, the reason I ask how long it is is because you had like it felt like you had an extra stuff i wonder how much yeah there's a there's some extra lines in there getting long
young tim but you had you had both your file cabinets open of like your liquor specifics
and your travel specifics or whatever it was that the section needed and i do remember
cutting down like having that conversation especially the budweiser Frogs and Clydesdales.
And like, should this section be half as long?
And do we just use the best rhymes?
But you really laid them all out there.
Like, here's the pool that we have to draw from.
I feel like that's a lot of our editing, both with the Sloppy Boys and the Birthday Boys is like, first draft is like every idea you have.
And then you'd be like,'re like is that funny you know like the the frogs and clidesdales
or being like jackie daniels jimmy beam and johnny walker i'm like i'm like oh i thought of other
personifications but like if it doesn't get a laugh you're like well you don't have to use every idea
and then so my final where it all lands in the process we don't have to listen
to this whole track if it gets boring but then two months after that it's november 1st 2017
we are putting together songs for an album because we're going to eventually record in like january
or something so here we go to bedrock our our rehearsal space in Echo Park. I play you guys
that demo off my phone. And then we all play the song for the very first time together.
And I record this voice note on my phone. Right. So we just, we probably tried to get it down a
little bit. You know, we probably figured out the moves a little bit.
I didn't even listen to this whole track.
So maybe it's even just like us jamming out a little bit.
I don't know if we even do a whole song here.
Because the other thing that's maybe worth noting is that
the first album, we really did try to go in armed.
Right, because we had, studio time was expensive.
And we'd never done it before.
And then on the second and third albums, we were kind of maybe more comfortable figuring it out.
But I think that we went into the lifelong vacation sessions,
armed a little bit better with like, maybe five tracks kind of figured out.
Yeah.
Yeah, just because we also didn't know that we would be able to figure stuff out while recording.
So we were like, we better get it.
And I remember this.
I think we were around the corner at Bedrock in room I or whatever, that kind of corner room.
And I feel like this was like a fun day.
I think we recorded some other tracks too, but this was like things were popping and it was like we were feeling good.
It wasn't about one of our usual grueling sessions.
Now, now, now.
One, two, three, four!
Oh, yeah. Yeah, there it is. I said don't give up I said don't give up I said don't give up Oh yeah
Yeah there it is
Ooh
Jeffy O's of the ride
Oh baby
Still sticky there Ooh Oh, baby.
It's still sticky there.
Ooh.
You have it, huh? You got me.
You got me.
You got me.
In the trunk tank.
Oh, sweet. We will come out In the drunk tank On the street I'm gonna go lay back
For a Sazerac
Or I'll act a fool
Or a Moscow mule
I'm going to go
Screwdriver
And leave a mark on the side
Normally I cringe listening to old stuff,
but this feels like I've been taken on an educational journey.
I'm like appreciating the steps of it.
Sounds good. It feels like we picked this up fast.
Yeah.
So we all had music stands and we had written stuff down.
Yeah, yeah.
So we're like buried in our notes.
Ooh, I like the symbols doing weird I was in the wrong what? Key?
There was a note you hit wrong on every progression.
It was new.
wrong on every progression it was new
that solo sounded
like it was
like it was in the Elm right
yeah I just ended it
differently with that
kind of manic thing
that was in the demo
oh yeah yeah
Clydesdales
yeah but you cut that down to a length already.
There it is. Nice.
Pretty good, man. Nice.
Pretty tight there.
Tight little dem. We're good. We're a good little, man. Nice. Pretty tight there. Yeah. Tight little dem.
We're good.
We're a good little punk band.
Man, it's so funny because hitting those fills, I was like nailing those little tricky ones.
And that's the slowest we've ever played that song.
Oh, yeah.
That's always your thing.
It's always like, let's not rush it.
Yeah.
It got faster on the album and then like even faster when we play it live.
We're so juiced by the end of a show. Hey like to get juiced you know me juice um damn what a journey
timmy that's great that was cool yeah it's funny hearing like you'd cut down the little breakdown
but clive budweiser clydesdales was still in there and we hadn't swapped it out for just chundered here yet.
Ah, yes.
But the structure was kind of found.
It was.
And you could feel like when I listened to that, I'm like, oh, I can hear that we're getting it and having fun.
Because a lot of times we, one guy teaches the band the song and then we'd play and we're just like, well, it's just wasn't fun. And we're going to, we're going to ditch this. But the fact that we played
the whole thing means that we were probably, we're pretty pleased with ourselves. We were,
there was probably some, uh, hand slapping going on after that one. We're probably going out to
that vending machine and, uh, getting some sun chips to celebrate. Yeah.
getting some sun chips to celebrate.
Yeah.
All right, Jeff, what do you have for us?
Oh, I got some weird shit.
I mean, coming off of what we just did just there.
Why don't we do this?
Do you have any demos?
And then, because I have a demo too,
so why don't we get our demos out and then we'll do our weird little shits.
Okay, great, yeah.
I guess I don't have like full demos.
Whatever you got.
All right.
All right.
I'll start with a Dutz pop.
Actually, you know what?
Before that, I'll do...
Here's what I got for Armageddon.
Oh, nice.
This was a good one.
This is just me kind of fucking around
trying to figure that out.
Off our third album, Paradiso.
Yeah, it's fun to be a stopper. me kind of fucking around trying to figure that out off our third album So just like Here's some things I want to do in this song
It's all over the place
And then like
And then like...
And then like, I love the...
And then like...
The bridge-y part.
Oh, yeah.
For the bridge.
For the ridge.
Yeah, and that's all I have for that one.
That's great. You know what's funny is listening to that reminds me that that was like a waltz you know like three four time
and i remember that there had been a conversation i'm guessing probably like a day or two before
that where we're talking about just concepts for uh paradiso and we had like talked about the
concept that would become uh armageddon but i do i also remember you being like yeah yeah and like
what if it's like a waltz and that's funny because you saying that then later on uh uh
fucking sonic ranch chico'spe's kind of a group.
Right.
And I think you were the one who was like,
yeah,
maybe it's three,
four times.
Maybe it's kind of like the J man.
Like he,
this guy's been listening to my name is Jonas.
Uh,
this guy wants to do a waltz.
It's,
uh,
honestly the Weezer,
the Weezer songs in three or whatever,
three,
four,
six,
eight,
you got holiday.
You've got Suzanne. You've got Suzanne.
You've got Bits of Jonas.
Oh, wow.
No other one off Pinkerton, I think.
Oh, that's a nice slow, sludgy one.
Yeah.
A sludger.
You might not pick up on it consciously,
but to have a song on a 10-track or 12-track album that's just got a little bit of a different time signature,
it's a good move.
It's funny, though.
You're collabing with your band.
A lot of time you're bringing to the table,
hey, let's switch it up to waltz.
Then you go off, you make your own album.
Dutz, no waltzes?
No waltzes?
Waltzless.
The no waltz?
I went back pretty far, and I stitched some together.
Oh, an edit job.
I'm just going to play a couple songs that did end up on my record that...
Oh, that's fun.
Okay.
So this was one that I, for a long time, called Jazzy Minor Chords,
and it became What's It Gonna Be?
And you'll kind of hear me just figuring melodies out.
The first little bit I recorded two years before the second one.
So it's like 2018 and maybe 2012.
Kind of top lining.
That's great.
It seems like you did a Kanye, or like when Kanye had his jaw wired shut.
Scatting out weird shit.
Yeah.
Two years later, I had this sort of thing.
It's been so hard.
And it's been so long.
And what year is this?
Why can't you just let me know what's going on?
What's going on, girl?
2018?
Or, like, girl? 2018? Or like 2020?
It's been so hard.
And it's been so long.
You got me waiting on you.
Trying to test me.
Trying to feel me out.
See what I won't do.
So that did end up on my first verse of that song. of that song but man i have a lot of just like whispering to myself like weird yeah yeah weird little shit like i do too and uh
we were talking about like you don't want to make your neighbors feel like you're a nut but uh you're
also kind of like i don't i kind of don't want to like admit this to myself, but I'm up to.
Yes.
Yes, of course.
I have shame.
I'll play one more.
This is the day I came up with pop, which was a kind of, kind of like an idea I had
for a song before I made the music.
Normally I just like would make beats and they would develop to a certain
point and I would scat over them and be like,
what's this fucking song about?
This is one where the idea of like,
make that pussy pop I thought was funny.
And you can tell that I put it,
I put it on the voice memo right before I got in the shower.
Make that pussy pop.
Make that pussy pop make that pussy pop literally make literally make it make a pop sound
make that pussy pop literally make it make a pop sound
intimate Intimate. Make that pussy pop.
Show me what you got.
Make that pussy pop.
Literally make a pop sound.
Are you hearing the strings in your head right now, Joe?
Literally make a pop sound.
In my head?
As you're singing it?
Pop sound.
Pop sound.
It's just me just like finding bits.
Like a little pop sound.
I don't know, it's just me just like finding fits. I love pop sound.
This one was called bass.
Like, this is what I thought the bass would be doing.
I don't know.
Okay. I think that's DVNO
What's that? DVNO?
That last one was
Christmas Eve
The family's fast asleep? DVNO? That last one was Christmas Eve.
The family's fast asleep? I was home in bed fully asleep and
I came up with this sort of like descending
sort of minor chord version of it. Wow.
And I said, I think that's DVNO
meaning justice.
They have a song called DVNO.
Oh. That is very
similar. So I don't know. I do
a lot of just sort of coming up with weird little scripts and scraps.
Well, I guess what I was asking, like, were you, as you're singing that,
are you like hearing the rest of the band or is it just like,
you don't know what's coming next? Yeah, I guess so. I don't know.
But then like you say the stuff. I don't know. I feel like Jeff,
I feel like you're build it from the bottom up guy.
I feel like you're probably starting there.
And then the strings were like the fun thing you're adding on top.
Right.
Or, or do you think that you were?
Yeah.
No, I don't, I don't think I was thinking of it like in terms of completion,
but like, I'll play you one more.
That's just like, didn't go anywhere.
This is just one line.
I came up with a funny idea that I thought called, uh,
I want to kiss your heart between where your tits are.
And then like, it's just kind of like me
coming up with little bits of it.
This was in 2020.
The first one was in July.
The next memo is in October.
And then there's like a bit of a demo in January, 2021.
I want to kiss your
heart
between where your tits are
between where your tits are
I want to kiss your heart
between where your tits are
So sweet.
Sitting by the dock of the bay.
There's a duck.
Oh, Jeff! Oh, it's good
kind of elvishy yeah i was going for like a beach boys like kokomo or like
kiss the girl from little mermaid or something like that
but but that that export is three whole minutes of song with like different changes and um you
know so i got an intro and verse chorus or whatever but the only lyrics are those that
little pocket of lyrics i just played you oh that's funny that's so fucking funny i it sounded
to me like uh like sitting on the dock of the bay like the doom well that's great i love it i got some weirdies but
i'll hold on to them till we do uh some hanford jams i feel like i want to hear all your stuff
but then also there's got to be a recurring i'm having fun on the pod for once yeah this is great
yeah the uh yeah let's let's listen to my yuppie man uh demo it's we're yuppies now it was
called and this i think i had the idea i must have had stuff written down in front of me
as i'm figuring it out but this is a little glimpse into how this song came together oh
a little hammer on michael
i went to law school and i i went to law school and i fell out quick
the teachers hated me it's like a different melody. Yeah.
It was really figured out here, I guess.
You have a good voice, Mike.
Thank you.
I went to law school.
I went to law school.
Ah, shit.
I went to law school.
Became a lawyer.
I go to K-Count.
I went to Breuer.
Yeah, we're lovers now.
Breuer.
Well, I went to a men's school.
But I fell out quick.
The teachers hated me. But I still got rich. I went to law school. I thought it was going to be like a big jump up thing
I think this is like a lot of this stuff
we don't have to listen to all this
it's like a four minute thing
yeah it sounded like I think this is like a lot of this stuff. We don't have to listen to all this. It's like a four-minute thing.
Yeah, it's down to a... I went to law school, became a lawyer.
I go to Cape Cod, I'm a Lester Broder.
It's down to a G for the first two lines and up to an A.
I'm a Lester Broder.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah. Yeah.
Damn. damn wow i i've never really heard that method where you have like not just like lyrics but you have the structure there and just every note is different but you know like you you got the parts
and you're like this part and that part and and like the phrasing and the cadence. And then you later changed almost like every chord and
every note. Yeah. Well, there's also a part of it, listening back to it, you can tell it's like,
you know, I have to kind of be like, all right, well, how does a song work? What, what things
happen? And I'm like, this is an A into a G into a C. Okay. So I can remember it.
Well, I remember I was waiting for you to hold where yuppies now,
the way you do on the song. Yeah.
Where yuppies now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
And you were, you started holding other stuff.
Yeah. Right.
And so it's like, you knew that like at that point you were like,
I want to go up and hold it and strum out and let it ring out.
And then, and, but then you did get to the familiar part like
where yuppies now um yeah the chorus you did have pretty figured out yeah and you could tell like
i was doing more of a uh black crows thing where it's like where yuppies now like instead of just
uh the arbor the the yeah the finished version is much more just like punky.
Punky.
Punky.
So there's that.
Now, I want you guys to listen to this.
I came across this.
It's a song I thought was going to be called King of Cool.
I think I was trying to make a song about a guy who rode a skateboard all around and bothered people.
It just was annoying.
But listen to it.
It's very short, but you can tell me what song this ended up as. Oh, I didn't get it till the very...
Free for all.
Full-blown free for all.
No, I thought that too.
It's going to get you laid.
I'll get you laid.
I'll get you laid.
But maybe free for all... Maybe there's some free for all stuff in there too
I can't remember but
But I know that descending laid
And also
Take you all damn day
And then that also feels like
That one I had yeah
I love that I love knowing because in general
We're you know we're kind of a jokey band and it's
like concepts and lyrics get us excited.
So I love you reaching for your phone.
We're like, oh, I got this melody.
I got just something good.
I'll play one more before I yield the floor.
This is let's see, which one do I want to play?
Oh, this is something I thought was this is an old one.
I never did anything with it. But jeff play i feel like a chef
i feel like a chef when i'm cooking in the kitchen i feel like a chef when i'm cooking
in the kitchen all right i feel like a chef come on while i'm cooking in the kitchen. All right. I feel like a chef.
Come on.
When I'm cooking.
This is like a big stadium rocker.
That's it.
All the rest of mine are just little like one lines.
The idea of a whole arena singing along.
Yeah.
When I'm cooking in the kitchen.
That's the best because the whole reason I love these is any of these little stupid things
that you hear, a person stopped their
day and grabbed their phone we're like this is good i gotta make record of this and it's just
so sad i have so many of those but but what's funny about our band is like any one of them
could if you would have played me and jeff that we would have been like okay it's going on the album well but but it's also like anything like yeah this one didn't go into a mega hit but
uh you know uh i'm gonna get you laid dead and then someday you'll use that melody for something
else so many times i'll hear i'll have a uh like a phrase that i just repeat to myself and it'll
take on like a musical quality and I'll lay
it down thinking like, yeah, that'll be good for something.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't want
to play a lot of them because they're really dirty.
I didn't know how
dirty Dutz was going to end up being.
Something like this didn't
really make the cut.
Uh-oh. Suck that pussy.
Suck that ass. Suck that pussy. Suck that ass. Suck that pussy. Suck that ass.
Suck that pussy.
Suck that ass.
Suck that pussy.
Suck that ass.
Suck that ass.
Hole.
Jefferson.
Hole.
That's the surprise ending is hole?
Yeah, that's what I thought would be like funny and dirty.
I was picturing cheeks and crack and now you're hitting me with hole?
No, hole.
Hole.
All right, Jeff, I've got one called R-Rated Elvis.
And this was, I think I wrote this after, it's just, again, just a little tiny me singing.
But I think this was after I saw the Elvis movie and I really liked his later eras when he's on TV and kind of doing big,
there was a do, do, do, do-da-da, like the big horn section.
So this would be that era of Elvis.
There's a sketch about Elvis,
like his more risque stuff,
even more risque than the hip shaking.
It's like a CD compilation or something like that.
And one of the songs is,
And then we fucked so much
that our genitals
hurt all year.
It's like meatloaf.
Just with like a big grand.
All year.
Oh, fuck. That's funny.
That's good.
Man, I have so many of these that end with
yeah
or being like something like that
or something like that
I get so excited like you know how to do it
you'll take it from there
you're a smart guy
I have some real cringy ones
too that are just like
too pop cringe
okay here's one where i can
you can tell i discussed myself even even at the end of it but it's kind of like i have a lot of
these too where you're just finding the words you have like a it's me especially i have like a lot
of beats and stuff and i'll have like a melody in my head and it's just trying to find the words
that don't make it ick out. And this was a failure.
And I need a little sunshine.
Grossed yourself out.
Wait, you said ick at the end.
Was that the recording?
Yeah.
I was just like,
and I was like, need a little sunshine.
But I get it.
I get it because of that beat you were listening to.
Was that something you made that under your computer,
but now you're singing into your phone? Is that what's happening?
Yeah. So I had, I'd come up with like an instrumental thing that was like sort of a
Robin-ish, Katy Perry-ish dance track and was like, oh, there's this transition going into
this new section. And I found this, and then any lyrics I put on it cringed me out.
And then any lyrics I put on it cringed me out.
Well, here's something that's not so cringy.
This was a little idea of a song that didn't go anywhere called Keto Diet Song.
And I think if I remember correctly, it's because I forget how this goes, but I think it's more of like a like a musical sounding thing. less of like a pop song or a rock song and more like a,
what you'd hear in a musical.
I like to diet,
diet,
diet all day long.
There's a diet,
diet,
diet.
I must try it,
try it,
try it.
I think keto is quite neato.
I think Atkins is where it's Atkins.
If you're counting calories, you can count along with me, you see.
I like to diet, diet, diet all day long.
Some Lin-Manuel Miranda shit.
Old Ant weighed 503.
I like to diet, die, die.
Some song I could do for Keto for Sloppy Boys.
I like at the end too, I always put like, this could be like a stand-up thing.
That sounds like Jack Skellington, Danny Elfman.
Yeah, yeah.
Nightmare Before Christmas.
Fast parts and slow parts.
And it's funny, you made it kind of like fancy and old timey,
but the content of it is also a little bit like Brian Jordan Alvarez.
You know, the sitting, sitting is the opposite of standing.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I like that song.
It's a little like the mundane-ness of dieting, but then giving it the treatment.
And I like that I can hear food sizzling in the background.
One of them, I don't think we've listened to it yet, but you can hear me watching South Park.
All right.
I got one more if we want.
This is a nothing thing.
Sure.
Don't be rude to grandma.
Don't be rude to grandma when grandpa's not there.
Don't be rude to grandma when grandpa's not there.
That's it.
I don't know.
Just kind of maybe a sketch.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Like you were saying before, Jeff. It's like, oh, this is too funny not to get down.
I'm going to hear this again and it's going to spark it.
I'm going to write the whole thing.
Well, there you have it.
Jeff, do you have any more?
No, I'm going to save them for next time.
I feel like we could do a whole series of this shit.
Me too.
Me too.
All right. time. I feel like we could do a whole series of this shit. Me too, me too. Alright, well that's
a little glimpse into the artistic
well, artistic is
maybe not the right word.
Maybe fartistic?
Fartistic
process.
But it does show you that
I don't know, even the stupidest stuff starts
from something.
Oh really? Even the stupidest, even the stupidest stuff.
You know, you can take a stupid voice note and turn it into a stupid song.
It's a stupid song. If it's stupid, it's got to start at a stupid little spot.
I think we're very fortunate that we're in the type of a band where like there isn't, uh, some
of this stuff is really humiliating to listen to but
it's not that far off from our final products as opposed to like if we were trying to be cool with
our band yeah then then then missing the mark would be like this would be a career killer yeah
that like we wouldn't be doing this no no no i i everything we do with the band like even when
we're on stage and we screw up it's like like, hey, you know why we named ourselves this?
Let me get away with this.
All right, folks.
That's going to do it for us.
Sloppy Boppies today.
Thanks, folks.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks for, I think people will enjoy this.
If you're doing the Patreon, you are interested in the process, I think.
We hope. We hope.
Hey, have a good Thanksgiving
tomorrow, everyone. Gobble, gobble.
Oh, that's tomorrow.
I still gotta get my turkey.
I'm chasing my turkey around the neighborhood
here. Trying to get
this guy. Let him out.
You'll come back, right? You're just gonna eat some grass
in the park and you're gonna come back, right? Yeahbble gobble i will yeah yeah i guess that's i guess
that means yes i trust you my neighbor said that could mean no i was like no i grabbed him by the
lapel you fucking idiot where were you 10 minutes ago all right we love you folks thanks folks bye
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