The Sloppy Boys - [UNLOCKED] Memos and Demos 2

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

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I'm the Big Head Bopper sitting here with Jeffy D. Hey folks. And Tim K. What is up? All right, well I'm dropping the voice because we got stuff to get to today. Brass tacks. Serious, real stuff. Can I just say, I just got to say this, though, before we start.

I saw a movie last week that has been on my mind. Maestro. Maestro. Maestro. Maestro. Maestro, he says. I saw Maestro. I watched it at home.

I said, all right, Coop, what do you got and i was charmed all the way through i loved it i thought it looked really cool it was shot in like uh 131 or something or like displayed in 131 for some of it most of it well he's such like a dork but he's good and he cares and he works really hard like i like star is born i thought star is born was good he's an actor reactor he's a he's an actor reactor and he got started off in things like playing sack in oh right um wedding crashers and then the hangover and it's just like well those are fun movies or whatever but i think he was just doing his whatever work he could get i know but like he's sort of like the main dude and it's

just like i i'm so tired of seeing a handsome guy or be like we were so fucked up last night yeah yeah but it's funny though when galvanak is zach does his hair like him and he's like does it look like his hair yeah but i it was i the reason i'm so uh floored by maestro was i thought it was gonna be so crappy i mean it is a very oscar baity movie and stuff but uh i thought it sounded it looked really cool and carrie mulligan is great she should win an oscar i haven't seen it at all i can't weigh in because i haven't seen it but doesn't it does it not when you're watching the film mike or jeff you can weigh in um yeah i mean i was so just when i saw the teaser i was like bradley cooper playing a genius composer like he just did star is born which is a big you know like hey i, hey, I'm Jackson Maine.

I'm Jackson Maine. To do it's like he clearly has this chip. Like, look, hot people want to be smart. Smart people want to be hot. It's it's just it's just the deal. And Bradley Cooper is hot. Bradley Cooper is not smart. And he's going to make movies about being a genius just for the

rest of his fucking life until we believe he's smart yes because hot people are good actors the hot dumbs are the best actors that is true that is true but i think i think uh yeah that is funny playing just geniuses maybe i'll do that um it's weird for me as like a hot smart guy. I'm like, what do I do? Like, where do I fit in? Oh, where do I fit in? Poor me. On the island of misfit toys, I guess. Yeah, I think the reason I liked it so much is I was expecting so little. Yeah.

Anyway, but the music, I like the music. And I liked his big scene where he's conducting the orchestra. Only even one scene? I mean, the big one where he's like, I practiced this for six years. Okay. I don't know how that works. Six years you practice every day? Waving your arms around? But I was listening

to an interview with him and the music director, I guess, for the movie who's also a composer. And I was like, oh, this is a cool little world I know nothing about. It's like what the composer actually does it's neat yeah um yeah i watched the and we we should do this on the pot and we've talked about doing this on the pod but i watched the uh uh uh we are the world doc on netflix and you get to see quincy conducting it's so fun to see a guy actually do it. Like Quincy Jones,

you're like Quincy Jones, come on. But you forget, like, isn't it fun to see someone do their job? And when you see Quincy Jones, like he's holding a baton and he's conducting and you're like, Oh right.

Quincy Jones. Yeah. Yeah. I love seeing people like with very specific job, like bartenders, even just like watching them do stuff and like how you know they got to be fast and it's a it's a screenwriting tool if you're not going to save the cat one of the ways to make the audience side with your protagonist is to just show them being

really good at something early on in the movie because it's fun sometimes it's cat saving, but yes. Hey, I'm a cat saver. I'm a cat saver. And I'm good at it. I save 100 cats a minute. Whoa. But you're right, though, with Quincy Jones, like he's a guy who's done, you know, he's a musician. He's a philanderer. He's an arranger. He did like jazz bands and orchestras and pop music.

He's just kind of like got a far reaching scope of what he's done. And to in that movie, just really show him conducting. and pop music. He's just kind of like got a far reaching scope of what he's done. And to, in that movie, just really show him conducting. That's like the, that's kind of like the boring nuts and bolts. That's the stuff I want to see. Right.

And that's the stuff they all started with. Like everyone eventually is wearing a glittery suit at the Grammys and who gives a fuck. I want to see the thing you went to school for, you know? And like, the only thing they ask these people is, are like,

what's all McCartney really like? What's Michael Jackson really like? Same with like, I mean, I know people don't like, only thing they ask these people are like what's paul mccartney really like what's michael jackson really like same with like i mean i know people don't like i want to ask him is it three four time or two four time i brought this up when we watched the genius the the kanye documentary on netflix like i know that's a guy who hunches over a laptop for hours and hours and hours but he is when he's in pop star mode he just talks about celebrities and rapping and all this stuff i'm like i want to see the guy hunch over a laptop and they finally did show it in like bonus features yeah i didn't make the movie on the web after the fact and i was like i like show the nuts and bolts show the actual like sweaty worky part i don't know but that's

i mean that's not what any of the fans really want. That's true, but I want the fans to know who he really is. How about that? I remember when you went through that and you're still probably going through it, the Niles Rodgers phase. You were watching a bunch of his

chucking videos. Yeah, just ingesting Niles Rod, Nile Rogers. But that reminds showing the people what they do. It reminds me and that the public doesn't care. It reminds me of the, the, the, the old comedy debate about like improv versus writing like Stephen Merchant and Ricky Gervais. When they came out with the British office,

they get this question all like, Oh my God, was that line improvised? They're like, no. And they're like, was that a line improvised? No. And everyone wants to hear, everyone loves to hear that that line was improvised. And Stephen Merchant was like, isn't it cool that me and Ricky like wrote a script that was so good? It's like, no, no, it only disappoints people. That means I'm a good writer.

And it means that you thought it was like spontaneous. It means we did our job really well. Why is that not interesting to you? And it's like the acting and the directing or whatever. Everything, yeah. It all comes together to make it seem like it's just happening. Oh. Oh, well.

The public fucking sucks. That's why there's a birthday boy sketch called Dumb Public. It's so good. I got friends in the public. My mom and dad are part of the public. The public people. This is a good transition to talk about writing, which I wanted to kick off this memos and demos with. Ah, yes. The art of prose. Next time you host a blowout, you do it, whatever you want. And I love that, that you are. I love that you have ambitions for that. You have aspirations.

We'll see if it ever happens. I had submitted a request. It must be on the sheet. Oh, the sheet. Yeah, let me. Hold on. Yep, I talked about my thing. Maestro, go ahead.

I said, talk about Maestro, and then floor is open for Jeff and Tim. The floor is open. The floor is open. Well, last week we talked about Saviors, the new album from Green Day, did we not? We did. Two weeks ago. Was it? Last week was 8 Mile. Yeah, that's true. Okay, well

it was pretty recent, wasn't it? Yeah, it was a fortnight ago. We all remember it pretty well. Hey, don't say fortnight in front of us too, Tim. Oh, Tim, don't say that about me. I might not be on this blog much longer. I love that game. It got me on a little bit of us too, Tim. Oh, Tim, don't say that about me. I might not be on this blog much longer. I love that game. It got me on a little bit of a green day, Tick,

and you might have noticed that Dookie had its 30th anniversary. Do you have the time? Nice. Do you have the time? Dude, you have the time. Do you have the time? Very good, Michael. Very good. This is where I'm headed.

They came out last year, late last year. I'm talking like fourth quarter. Oh, my God. December 31st. Dookie, 30th anniversary with all the memos and demos and delights and outtakes. Oh. And I listened through some Dookie songs, the demos. Most of them exactly the same

as on the album. Vocal harmonics and everything. Really? Except for one song, the quintessential Green Day song. Basket Case? Basket Case, the four-track demo, lyrics are wildly different. Interesting. And

actually, one line is the same. But I think we can listen to two minutes of this. Nice. I'm going to send you guys the lyrics so that you can kind of read along. Oh, okay. Great. And while you're sending that, I want to talk about how we saw on the Internet that James Gandolfini was obsessed with Dookie. And that's really funny.

James, I love hearing more and more about James Gandolfini. Now that I've watched Sopranos, I love that he likes, you know, he always shows pictures of him with SpongeBob for some reason. Oh, yeah. He likes SpongeBob or his son did or something. And he's like trick or treating. I like seeing him in that Homer the Simpson, Homer the Simpson, Homer Simpson mask.

Yeah, you're Mike the Hanford. He's Homer the Simpson. Okay. I'm looking at these that Homer the Simpson, Homer the Simpson, Homer Simpson mask. Yeah, you're Mike the Hanford, he's Homer the Simpson. Okay, I'm looking at these lyrics and I see, so you better hold on. I really don't know where this story began. Wow. So we're doing like generic doomed relationship.

Wow. Not a hit, these lyrics. No. Not broad enough, too specific for the charts. I like to listen for like, is he preserving any like the vowel sounds? Like at the end of lines? Like what stuck around? Luck and stuck was right there, right?

I don't know. I don't know. Like, they're on their own, became, or am I just stoned? Like, there's something about preserving certain vowels felt right to him, clearly. I thought that line was, am I disturbed? Interesting. Wow. Wow. He nailed it.

He figured it all out, except for the lyrics. Now this verse could be on the radio. Yeah, but even the... He knew what lines he wanted to have harmonics on. He knew when he wanted to speed up. I just want to get to the one line that's the same as the album version. Wigged out.

It's almost got like a Springsteen-y thing Like here's two young lovebirds Yeah, what's that John Mellicamp song? Jack and Diane But this is a thing Bruce does Bruce swaps out vocals in his demos Here we go So you better hold on

There you go Wow Ooh, a solo. So pretty wild, right? Weren't they like 16 too then? That's crazy. Let me look up the real lyrics. I tried to look up the journey.

Like, has he commented on the difference between the two? And all I really found was people saying he wrote the song didn't like the lyrics but like the melody and change the lyrics Wow until um last night I found he has an audible original like it like an audiobook but he's but he speaks through it I don't know if it's just an Amazon thing or what called welcome to my panic and here's a very short segment of it coming right from the horse's mouth. Here's Billy Joe Armstrong. I wrote these lyrics where I was actually on speed. And the lyrics, you know, you think that when you're on speed

and you write anything or do anything creative, you think that it's the greatest thing in the world. And then the next day when I saw the lyrics, was just mortified i thought it was just what the hell am i singing about so i sort of put the song away for a while and then there was a time period i was having just really bad panic attacks and um i thought i was losing my mind so that's when i was like why am i well this i'm gonna write a song about it so and i had the melody that's when I was like why am I, well I'm going to write a song about it so I had the melody that's what Welcome to My Panic

this song's called Basket Case How about it? Wow, that's very interesting to me I like it, I like the ballsy-ness to say I've got a good song here but I'm going to trash all the lyrics, there's lots of Bruce demos like this from Darkness at the Edge of town in the river where it's just

a full overhaul in the lyrics you know but i would say i've tried it a couple times with sloppy boys demos i sent you guys and because i i have fun writing lyrics but i struggle with to like have a melody and chord progression and i feel like when i've sent you guys a demo and it didn't really get much of a response i've i've had a couple times where i trashed lyrics start over and then do it again but it's never actually made it to an album it always feels like this like feudal yeah yeah like to give it a chance again be like okay we remember the other thing but let's give it just as me being like i don't have another idea for a melody so i came up with another funny beer song but i'm gonna cram it in here this listening to this version of basket case reminds me of uh like our mashups on the other show on the main podcast

where we're like oh i met whatever celebrity on the sunset strip and this is what he's saying it's just like filling all the little spaces with words that fit yeah it's like i wrote this in an afternoon and i tried to crank it out in time for the recording. Well, Tim, it's interesting that you, Jeff,

thank you very much for bringing that to the blowout. Hey, well, he had the floor. We had already talked about maestro and he had the floor. I love it. And he, he,

he used his time on the floor to sort of advance stuff that we'd, uh, they've been working on. Tim, I don't know what you're doing with your time on the floor. Honestly, just squandering it. Well, you did. You did mention not squandering because you did mention demos you've written. And today we're talking about memos and demos. This is number two. We've done this once before. Oh, my thing wasn't a good enough transition. Tim is the transition. No, you're right. Yours was good. That was good. That was a demo too,

wasn't it? It was exactly what we're doing. Yes. yes well jeff you beat him to it and i love you for it now let's hear one of your if you're so hot you're such a hot shot let's hear one of your demos me yes i do have a little bit of a demo i'm gonna play you Now, I remember on demos and memos and demos part one, Jeff, we got some glimpses into DUTs. Yeah. That's mostly what I'm operating off of. Love it. This time, I went through all my memos and demos.

Wow. And I categorized them. And I cut them all together. Oh, jeez. So here I have a bunch of memos that came together. They date from January 2021 to November 2022. So about two years. November 3rd?

All of 2021 and all 2022. This is the making of the last song on my record, Beyond. Oh, wow. So it's going to be all versions of that going well it's just like not it's a combination of me scatting out lyrics yeah yeah but it's going to be all in one take yeah so like this is kind of like this is the all damn night song yes it's the all damn night song this is my favorite song on the album yeah this is great so so you kind of hear me coming up with little bits you hear me cooking you hear me like like literally cooking and then you hear um there's also little slivers of primitive versions of the song in there too it's a it's like a two minute thing but hey good for a listen yeah let's listen two years and two minutes here we go

i'm clearly in bed here trying to be quiet. Yeah, yeah. I want to spend my whole night with you. Cringy. I don't know which way to go. Are you making eggs? Yeah. Got me this far, I don't got no more.

Ooh! I don't know which way to go. Got me this far, I ain't got no more. Easy. And I wanna be by your side. Oh, which way to go. There we go. Oh, so that's too good. There we go. Oh, dancing on the lounge.

So that's the music from the song. It's like me talking into the phone while the song is playing. Great. Sounds like Robin. I want to spend my whole night with you. I hate hearing this. I want to spend my whole night with you I wanna spend my whole damn life With you

There it is Life Should be night I wanna spend my whole damn life With you With you Double track it. Ooh!

This is just scattin'. Yep. Like finding vowels I like. Yeah. like finding vowels I like yeah that ultimately went earlier ready to go yeah adding guitar cool

definitely worth recording just a root note yeah you would have never figured this out on guitar like building tension kelly clarkson weezer yeah yeah yes there you have it folks when you say kelly clarkson you're talking uh uh uh since you've been gone yeah and we're talking yeah yeah as it's maps yeah yeah it's based on maps yeah it's not crazy that's funny uh jeff there was one one section in there like two uh parts uh before it ended that had like a lead line that's not in the song, right? Yeah, it's like... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's so funny to listen because I love that song. We all love it. Everyone knows it. But it's one of those things where like when you were working on it and you put that lead line in, you're probably like, this is great! This really works! And then to hear it now it's like that is so bad it does not belong in the song get it out like that not bad but it's you get so hooked on the original or the version i've heard it's like that's not what goes yeah yeah it was like listening to when we watched um the beatles

documentary yes like yeah that's not how that song goes. What did Paul McCartney keep saying that pissed me off? Like the early versions of like. I forget. Oh, Jojo Johnson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I was like, it's not Jojo Johnson. It's just Jojo.

And he finally drops it and it flows so much better. And it is embarrassing to think of some like, you know, British kid from Liverpool trying to think of some American thing. And he's like, Jojo Johnson. Yeah. Jojo Johnson. I liked in this version or hearing your stuff. It was like,

I want to spend my whole life with you. You ended, you kind of end the phrase on night, don't you? Yeah. Night. Oh, then you say with you.

The very first memo kicks off with a night. And it was like, that's the fun of it. And I think I just got sidetracked coming up with other stuff, but I liked finding that like, like minion speak. I truly remember being stoned and just looping that section and kind of scatting like what, what feels right to do just something that feels just like animalistic consonants and vowels and then finding out what fit those vowels damn it's so funny when you you hear songs and you're like oh this song is great and you hear stuff like this like i was just throwing words together i mean it does have to be words that make sense to the idea you're trying to do

but still it's like oh that's that's it but tim i'm the opposite when you were like when you were like i have the toughest time coming up with like a structure melody or something like that and like lyrics lyrics are always dead last for me right and i arrive at them in a in a gooey fashion you two should write a song together but that's but that's what i'm saying i swap the lyrics i would say that's arriving at them dead last because I crunched, trashed them all. I would say I'm between you guys. I would say you guys are the two ends of the spectrum. Mike, you're like, you have an idea for what you want to say in the song.

And then your fingers are following you on some weird journey that your words are going on. I thank them for it. And then Jeff, you're looping a beat and then you're trying to punch words into it. I think, I think you guys are opposite, opposite songwriters and I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle and I'm a normal songwriter. The thing that I do that I wish I don't put the drum in,

like I need to get a drum beat for, I should get a drum beat first, but which I don't do, but I should do whatever you're doing. It's working fine. It's different things for different strokes. It's not where this band sucks. This band had to start a podcast.

I could make money. Well, that's good. Jeff, do you have more Jeff? Or are you just doing the one? I got another one, but why don't somebody else go and then we'll come back around?

I'll do a short one because I, Tim, you probably have some thick stuff, right? I brought some scraps and then a song that you can kind of see go through some changes. Okay, let's do the change one, but I'll throw a little tiny guy in here first. This is probably, I was thinking of this for stand-up, maybe even say it, but Jeff hit hoes in different area codes. There's a song out there that if you put the letter A in the chorus, it completely changes the song. Walking around.

And the idea would be like this one i've got a hose i've got a hose in different area codes and uh you know maybe add that to the routine try to crack yourself up a lot of them are just like, this is going to be something funny. I don't know where it goes. Also, you just talking to yourself, add that to the routine. I'm guessing I may have been with somebody to try to make them laugh when I said that.

I like that you don't say the act or my material, but the routine. The routine that just gets trot out wherever I go. I'll play another little go. All right. I'll play another little one. All mine are. Yes. Here's one.

This came from a real life event. This this is, again, only a 14 minute clip, but a song that I thought would be funny. I was in a restaurant in like a diner restaurant and there was a family with like the grandparents and a mom and a kid and the grandfather went away i think to the bathroom and the grandma's the kid was like acting up or something and the grandma turned the kid was like don't don't talk that way while your grandma's when your grandpa's not here like he was getting away with something so then i thought this would be a funny song uh don't be rude to grandma don't be rude to grandma when grandpa's not there don't be rude to grandma when grandpa's not there mike some type of song i don't know just kind of a maybe a sketch a sketch didn't you play this on the last memos and demos did i i think you did no no i

heard this it doesn't ring a bell maybe i don't know maybe you just maybe i just heard it that sounds like a don't stop or we'll die song if i've ever heard one that that's what i thought yeah that's for sure what i when i was like oh that's so paul russ and cassie that's very if i did talk about the last time i wonder what i, because I just remembered this is how I came up with the song, so maybe I was lying on the other one. Maybe you were high. Maybe. Could be.

This next one, Andrew Dice Clay, is a funny idea. I know I'm with somebody here, and I think we've been out. Hinkery dinkery doodle. A mouse was playing with my noodle. Hinkery dinkley dober. I think it's time I get sober. Ow! A new character.

Sammy Checker... Sammy Checker Bar. Yeah. I don't know. Sammy Checker Bar. Yeah. Nice clay. I don't know. Sammy Checker Bar? I don't know why clay checkers is nice. Yeah, but bar and clay and bar.

Yeah. Whatever. It's fine. I don't know. I must have been out. I was out and about. All right, those are my little stupid ones. They're now real glimpses of the artistic process.

They are. That's fascinating. They are. That's fascinating. They are. They're great. Mike, can you send Tim and I all your memos? All of them? From now on. I want to listen and laugh.

We'll slap them into magic. You would love these demos. Some of them are characters talking to themselves. It's all types of stuff. All right, Tim, let's see what you got. You got a whole song. You said you, well, here, here are my little, here's some odds and sods first. Okay, good.

Good. Cause, cause last time we did this, I came in with the whole story of Tom Collins and then you guys, you guys got to have all your little funny, not even sloppy boys related stuff. And I said, I wanted to take part in the fun. So I did it. I have like a lot of this shit. And so this,

here's the first clip from, this is not even sloppy, but this predates, well, no, we had played a show, but not put it on albums. Um,

this is me writing for Michael Bolton's Valentine's day special on Netflix. I wrote a song, uh, for Maya Rudolph called Key Change that was eventually, Key change, baby. You'll win them over with the key change. The music was composed by Greg Chun,

the Lonely Islands music director guy. But he was amazed. Like he came up with stuff quickly. It was like an afternoon. He's like, I think i could do that and send stuff over i love that birthday boys worked with eban schleder from mr show on digman i work with cornbread who's another lonely island guy it's so fun to sing into your phone and have them turn it into a thing but i remember i wrote key change and then uh akiva from the lonely island like, Tim, could you step out into the stairwell and sing into your phone like a version of this song? And I remember being sort of like, oh, fuck my life.

This is so fucking. Did he say stairwell just because no one was in there or that's like acoustically better? It was just like the next door. Gotcha. So I went in the stairwell and then I sang. You can hear Key Change. It's on like YouTube and stuff. But here's me singing into my little phony.

Oh, things are going fine. We're having a decent time. This song is adequate, but we're not quite cooking yet And soon We're gonna wanna do a key change, baby I made it really low Because I knew it has to go up As the song goes There'll come a time for a key change, baby

And that time is now It's time for the key change baby that one i remember like and then coming back into kiva being like can i hear it i was like fuck you're good no you can't you can't hear it and that's that. That song was great. And anytime I hear a song with a key change in it, well, there's a part in your version, Tim, that made the show that lists off a bunch of songs with key changes, right? That made it. I think the final version cut all that, but I referenced like Love on Top by Beyonce. That's the one I was thinking of. That's the crazy one. Well, anytime I hear a key change, I'm like, ooh, I wonder if

Tim mentioned this in that song. You know what? They didn't. Like, this probably isn't popular enough. I was like trying to appeal to the Lonely Island dudes. So I was thinking of cool guys don't look at explosions and how they reference all the movies that do that. So I wanted to reference every famous key change.

And then I played that for Andy and he was like why don't you cut all that like i don't like any of that that was for you man i was like i was trying to suck up to you boss i didn't like when you did it um but i actually didn't i don't think there were any laughs in there anyway it was more just like oh look at that okay then next i got a scrap from february 2017 now this is when the sloppy boys are just starting to write original songs Okay, next I got a scrap from February 2017. Now, this is when the Sloppy Boys are just starting to write original songs. We're not yet planning to make an album.

Maybe we're doing Highland Park TV or something. And this is a very short recording. I take out my phone and I do this. I hope I'm the bomb. I really hope i got it going on i hope i'm the bomb i really hope i got it going on that's my favorite shit i oh god damn it this isn't so low concept there's just nothing but you can see it like that's i'm one hell of a dude basically yeah yeah no it is that's funny and then i i never i didn't rap until gardens of komara but so this is like i i do love that the stance of like i hope i'm this awesome thing other people have to decide i guess for me if i'm the bomb but i hope i end up that way um and here's now august 2017 i wrote this for sarah silverman

and she didn't like it it's me in my in my car singing i was supposed to come up with a song that was like unifying like like like a like a folk song to bring people together so i was trying to think in terms of what's something everyone bring together something everyone can relate to and then i sang this in my car. This year's a song for everyone. This year's a song for everyone. Everybody will think it's great. Nope.

This year's a song for everyone. Everybody can relate. Even the Menendez brothers. Those little dudes will think you're great. This part's here for Eric. And this part here's for Lyle. And this part is here for me. I haven't

heard that. I just wanted a little smile. Always makes me smile. Pretty good. That's good. Did she like that nope held my phone out into her face she listened to and said no thanks which sarah's great like some people yeah you know like she's funny she kind of rises

anthony jeselnik would do this too you'd pitch him an idea he didn't like it he'd be like no that's terrible you're a hack and but like it was funny like it turned into like a bit in the room um here's my last little side scrap which was july this is for sloppy boys july 20 to 2019 so we've done one album so this is me coming up with ideas for dancing on the wind a really short one wonderful wonderful women when i go out that's all that i see yeah wonderful wonderful women i just wish one of them loved me. Wonderful. Okay, that's it.

He said. That's so fucking funny. But what's funny is I don't remember if this is the reason, but I feel like Mike sent out I'm so punk rock and I was like, oh, I probably shouldn't work on this other like. I'm so sad. That I was like, oh, I probably shouldn't work on this other like really slow sad.

Yeah, yeah. That's good. Oh my god. Pretty, pretty good. I love hearing the little differences in terms of like voice bobo's when like somebody's in their car, somebody's in their bed trying to be quiet.

And like yes, I and the like lyric fixes are they're like oh that's better it's like yeah the song that's never gonna get made oh that's good right in the moment like oh no wait no be like this that's good it's good when you're good you're good well i got one more and then we'll circle back around how about that yeah let's see love it this next one is called that dude looks whack um oh we know that one this is another one that was like late in the game really if you listen to my record the the first couple tracks are the ones that came together first and the last couple tracks are the ones that came together last

um and this is in the back half these memos are all from july of 2021 through may of 2022. So not quite as crazy a span as the last one, but still definitely COVID era. This is mostly me finding the chorus and the harmonics and it kicks off at a 7-Eleven. That dude looks whack to me. You'd be into a dude like that. Dude looks whack to me. You be into a dude like that. Dude looks whack to me. I didn't think you'd be into a dude like that. Dude looks whack to me. You should get back with me.

That would be the change up. Harmonics. I didn't think you'd be into a dude like that. I didn't think you'd be into a dude like that I didn't think you'd be into a dude like that Maybe the approach is more to Embellish You'd and dude Sounds like an interview

So that That dude looks whack to me Is more of a solo vampy type thing I didn't think you, me, and you would do like that The dude looks whack to me So it's like Small, big, big, big, big, big, big Small, small, small

Maybe it's just you and the dude back there You'd, dude In the back of it going You'd, dude You'd, dude. In the back of it going, you'd, dude. You'd, dude, like that. Yeah, just emphasize those words. The dude's looking white to me. The dude's looking white to me.

I didn't think you'd be into a dude like that. Oh, same out. You'd look swag. I didn't think you'd be into a dude like that. A little bit more like EG's corny here. Oh This is on the other part of the vocals in the course Dude looks like trying to figure out where I want The dude looks whack to me Trying to figure out where I want harmonics. That dude looks whack to me That dude looks whack to me It can feel like a vision

Oh, I hate this. This is like verse. Figuring out verse one is just like. You know, the chorus is your premise and then like verses are how you get to your premise. Right. That's that. That was cool, man. That's a good song, too.

Thank you, man. It's so funny, your little voice notes, Jeff, because your music is like funky and soulful. It's just especially funny if you're like in your car having to be like. I know. Now, Jeff, with that song, you don't have to say their name, but is that about somebody? Yeah, sure. I had a crush on somebody and they started dating somebody. I think I had COVID at one point and they went on like a trip.

So I was on Instagram looking at them on a trip, sick at home with COVID and mad about it. And I remember that song. Ouch. That'll get you. That's life, baby. Nice. All right, Tim, let's hear your, you've got a big one, right? Well, not too big.

I mean, we don't have to make it through the whole track, but I did find, bouncing from my phone to my laptop, I found a three-part, like the genesis of a thing, and then us figuring it out, which was,'s october 2019 nice so we're writing starting to come up with ideas for paradiso our third album and the only thing i like we had probably hadn't yet like met up to talk about because we eventually had a meeting at my place where we went through some demos and we said like what's the vision for the new album and and that's out of that conversation came then jeff you had the idea for armageddon and like we dialed in some other stuff kind of based so i think this is

before that conversation but i remember in 2019 i wanted to make it i had been listening to a lot of grateful dead but then also riff rocky like i had been thinking about what's that song that's like you want it all but you can't no more faith no more epic yeah and then maybe i was listening to like uh like turnstile which is kind of similar like and riffy and then i was thinking of like maybe maybe it was like a more pot smoky album or something. And then I, I know that I remembered, I misremembered something Hanford used to say, Mike, you used to sign your emails, the monster bong ripper. And I misremembered that. And I came up with like, Ooh, it'd be funny if Mike did a kind of a thing like this.

Hit it. Be funny if this wasn't Mastabong. Unplugged electric is always the funniest when you're really trying to rock. Yeah, man. I'm the Master Bong Ripper. Known throughout the town. You may think you've spied a smokestack. It's just me that you have found.

The Master Bong Ripper. It's mainly in place. I found. The Master Ball Riffle. It's mainly in place. I think there's some different lyrics coming up here. It's a short song. But I love how like Three Little Pigs Green Jelly it is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's definitely it. I worry about the ozone and the greenhouse effect. If the climate will be changed, it's the tip of the planet. I love that shit. The master bold. I'm the master bold. The master bold. The Master Ball! The Master Ball! The Master Ball! The Master Ball!

The Master Ball! The Master Ball! The Master Ball! The Master Ball! The Master Ball! The Master Ball! The Master Ball! The Master Ball!

The Master Ball! The Master Ball! Why was it so Belabored at the end That sounded like pretty much I mean those spots where you didn't have lyrics but That sounded like pretty much it right Yeah I think then maybe in the next one there's different Different end of I forget what I was saying

I even think when you showed it to us we didn't change it much lyrically right yeah also i think i thought we were gonna make it longer because i think the song is maybe two minutes yeah and then we just didn't but i'm remembering that sale that was like a joke we always did with our friend seth reese because we love that cat video with the awol nation song we should we should take that when we play that live next blow it out and make it a get a big solo go in the middle and just jam out the middle yeah why not why not it's a it's nice about it's a slow song which you can kind of crunch through those sludgy but you know what would be cool is to do like a War Pigs, like a Black Sabbath thing where the beat does kick in.

And then it's like. Yeah, I know. That's cool. Could be cool. I like that a lot. Could be cool. I think that I knew I didn't want to sing a weed song in that because I didn't even smoke weed. And then so I made like a month later, make a laptop demo and send it to you guys and say how about this

for Mike and I think this guitar tone is actually really good maybe better than the album listen to it better than the unplug I'm the master Bong Ripper I'm known throughout the town You may think you

spied a smokestack It's just me that you have found the master that is a huge car sound yeah like it's cutting it's hairy i worry about the ozone and the greenhouse effect but when my puffs finally fuck the planet fuck the planet that's what you changed at least i'll be that's what it was i think it's the same but uh i remember that mike you didn't you were like when my if my when my pups finally fucked the planet you're like that's too harsh that was me oh yeah yeah yeah i remember being like oh if we could do the same but different that'd be nice

and just like you're like it just makes me sad right right that's that yeah that's but that was uh was that a was that a preset uh pedal on on garage band yeah it's it's like insane amp or something yeah well that is insane it did sound great like yeah what how's it different like the one on the album is just a little like sludgier bass or that one's like really treble cutty right i mean we were i think we were trying to recreate it and just didn't get all the way there. But that's one of the few things that was better on GarageBand. Ooh, reissue. The opening trumpet sounds like maybe the same. The same like MIDI. And now when we play it live, you just sing that.

Yeah, exactly that. When we play with Don't Stop, we should have Cassidy come out with his trumpet. Ooh. Play those couple notes and then put it away it's only one it's the same note he should he should come out in like a squire's outfit and like a full scroll it should be your herald yeah um and then this i mean this is just us having it but this is two the last thing I have is two months later, us at our rehearsal space at Echo Park playing it for the first time together.

So here we are really going from memo to demo to performance. Memos and demos. Still figuring that out on the drums. I'm the master of all the fun. I've been through all the trouble. If you think you'll spite a son's death It's just me that you found I'm worried about the ozone and the greenhouse effect But will my house finally fuck the fuck? At least I'll be totally right And this is the Big Church Lyrics of the Month. Tope!

Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope!

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Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope! Tope! ah yes back then we did toke toke toke sale now it's what is it i always forget toke toke smoke stoke sale because it gets farther away from weed yeah yeah the most obvious stoke toke smoke stokeoke. Sail. That's good. That's a fun song to perform there. Rocks.

That's pretty cool. Hearing like, we all know we're just a goof-off band, but we have three albums, and it's kind of cool hearing. Four albums. Four albums, I mean. It's cool hearing that these ideas did have to to we weren't just like yeah this sounds good we we uh worked through them oh yeah well and then it's a band thing right because most music is just built right in a in a pro tools project and and and uh like rightly so but we're still

doing just this like band thing of like oh show it to the guys and i'll teach the guys like there's really not a reason to do that other than we think it's fun i guess i think for me it's like uh is there anything here like when i said demos that's more like do we like this is this worth pursuing or uh what's going on what's up what's up, you know what song I want to do again is, we did it live when we first came out with the album. I think it was off of, yeah, it was Dancing with the Wind. Radio Days. That's a good one.

Oh, yes. And we had that down, too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We've had songs we've played, like big screen TVs, too, we should do again. Yeah. Next time we go out on the road, which could happen any day now. It's nigh. Tune in

Friday, folks. Not a tour. Don't get everyone to tour. It's a few shows. It's a few shows. You can't sit going on the road. You go on the road, play a show and then take the road home. But we should try and dig up some of those old tracks.

Like radio days was good. We did classical music. We don't play that much anymore. That'd be good. Yeah. I think it's time to like make our sets a little more exciting. 2.0. 2.0.

Cause we've, our sets are exciting, but we've just done the same song. Our sets are exciting. Damn exciting. Look, I'm excited to do the sets. Ooh,

I can't wait to do the sets. Hey, I can't wait to do the sets. Hey, I have a quick little demo or a memo here. Sure, love it. And I would like you guys to tell me, what is this? This is something I say in my head a lot, and I made a memo of it, but I don't know if it's, is this a guitar solo to a rock song? Is this a piece of classical music that I'm riffing on? What is this melody?

Holy fucking shit. Holy fucking shit. Eric Clapton. That's Mott the Hoople. Oh. All the young dudes. It's in Happy happy madison is it oh you know what i'm wrong that's uh it's uh leonard skinner oh wait no no no because yeah i'm thinking no it's not leonard skinner it is tuesday's gone oh yeah it is all the young dudes so wait how does all the oh i know all the

oh it's like uh wait now i can't think of it because I'm thinking of two songs. Three songs in my head. Jeff, what was the thing you sang? How does it go? Holy fucking shit. Holy fucking shit. Yeah, it's like. All the young dudes.

Did David Bowie cover that? I think he's in, like, he plays with them or something. Or it was a side project. I think that is his voice. I'm not sure. But it's such a classic sounding thing. It reminds me of how, like, Weezer had a song that sounds like simple gifts. Yeah.

What's simple gifts? Yeah. What is it? No, no, no. It's. Isn't that something else? No, no, no. That's not simple gifts.

Tim, no. That's not Simple Gifts. Tim, stop! Are you talking about like it was like a shaker hymn or something like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Simple Gifts. I am the greatest. Well, I guess we'll never know. Well, hold on. Well, let me Google Simple Gifts.

Because Simple Gifts is even the alt title for like. Ah, interesting. Sorry, I was listening, Tim. I'm reading about Mott the Hoople. Finish. Yes. Well, I'm opening up YouTube. You can get me too.

Did David Bowie sing All the Young Dudes? David Bowie version. There also exists a version consisting of the backing track for Mott the Hoople's version with Bowie's guide vocals. Okay. So that is him on that. And guys, Simple Gifts is... Well, if I'm... The audience is like me.

They didn't understand any of that because you were singing at the same time and we're lagging. Perfect harmony. Meeland, line them up. Make us sound good. They were coming in at different times. Oh, shit. Well, that was that's fun. That's fun stuff.

And it was a fun episode. You know, I play my last one. This was me, the episode where we went to do street food, I think. Cart food. And I had Ben, our buddy Ben Axelrad with me. I said, Ben, I took out my phone and said, Ben, say something on the phone. And he said this.

Titties, but two of them. Ben! God. He was trying to get my goat. I said, okay, I'm going to give you the microphone. You sign us off. And he said that. He's got a filthy mind, doesn't he?

No, he's just trying to fuck with me. Because he knows I can't. He knows I can't print that. Yeah. Hey, can't print that I can't print that. Yeah. I can't print that. Can't print that. This is good. I'm going to, when we do this again, I'm going to really dig

in and try to find some of my demos because a lot of them, I just go to my phone and a lot of them are not on my phone. I found something cool. I mean, one that was really scrapped. I feel like Santa Ana Wins was like really, I combined a whole bunch of songs to make it but i saw that i had a song a whole song called dyson airblade that got

collapsed into one line really i really want to dive in that's really funny it was too much to wade through today but i'm looking forward to figuring well that's funny because dyson airblade that the line in the song is like what what the fuck what is Dixie getting cut off it makes sense because you're talking about wind and air and whatever but I was I was trying to shoehorn it in it's great it's great totally fun for memos and demos part three memos and demos part three coming at you in the future next up though next blowout let's announce it we're watching the movie called the best night in pop i believe it's called the biggest night in pop biggest night in pop it's uh the thing

on netflix the movie on netflix about the we are the world i can't wait for you guys to see it it's there's there's a couple moments i really love i'm looking forward to dylan's stuff because yep he is like i've seen that video a bunch of times and he's just like, I'm not there. You're going to be, you're going to be happy when he sings his solo. It's a moment. I can't wait for that. I can't wait for Michael Jackson to roll his eyes at Huey Lewis. Is that in there? I mean, like there's so much, it's all sweaty collaboration. It's exactly what it feels like what we do. It's crazy.

That's perfect. Coming off of demos and memos. Yes, yes, yes. Perfect. I love that for us and I love that for you, the audience. What a show. What a great show. What a great podcast. This is a really good podcast. It's worth the $5 a month and it's worth the $10 a month and it's worth the $100 to be in the pigsty.

We got to give it. Hey, we got to throw some slop to those pigs soon, don't we? They're getting hungry. Those little piggies haven't eaten in a while. And that's just the way we like it. That's the way they like it. They like to be neglected. All the perks of life.

Nasty. Nasty in the sty. We love the sty guys. I don't know if it's guys or gals in there. Who knows? We don't call them out. We don't offer them time of day on the pod. Right. I don't even check in with them to see who's in there anymore because that's what they wish. That is their wish. Their wish most fervent. Excuse me. What's your wish most fervent? Wait wait wait isn't wasn't that from little ghosts yeah yeah little ghost was like it's my

most fervent wish if you haven't seen little ghost it's one of the weirdest halloween movies it's from like sweden it's like germany or sweden like, yeah, it's just poorly translated. Most fervent wish. I like to say that at bars now and say, what can I get you? I say, for my wish, most fervent,

I'll have a, Oh, just give me a gin and tonic. All right, folks, we love you. We'll see you next time. Again, thanks to,

well, I think I said this on the main, thanks for everybody who came out to Pittsburgh to my show last weekend. It was very fun. Nice meeting all of you. And let's do it again. Shitsburg. Hey, I didn't know.

I didn't say that. You know, I think it's, I think it's B Britsburg. The B stands for beautiful. Wow. What about the R? The R shouldn't be there. It's a typo. I don't know what about the R, Tim. I't be there. It's a typo. I don't know what about the R, Tim.

I don't know why he's here. With you, for once. All right. Bye, folks. Bye, folks. Bye. Give it up for your boys Give it up for your boys