The Three Questions with Andy Richter - Conor Oberst of Bright Eyes

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Musician Conor Oberst of Bright Eyes joins Andy Richter to discuss the new Bright Eyes album, being labeled as “Sad Indie” by streaming services, performing on Letterman, buying a house as a teenager, the reality of owning your own bar, and why Andy and Conor might be the only real soulmates. Do you want to talk to Andy live on SiriusXM’s Conan O’Brien Radio? Leave a voicemail at 855-266-2604 or fill out our Google Form at BIT.LY/CALLANDYRICHTER. Listen to "The Andy Richter Call-In Show" every Wednesday at 1pm Pacific on SiriusXM's Conan O'Brien Channel.

Hi everybody, welcome back to The Three Questions. I am your host, Andy Richter, and this week I'm here with Conor Oberst. Conor Oberst is a singer-songwriter best known for his work in the band Bright Eyes. I mean, he kind of is Bright Eyes, let's be honest. He's one of the founding members of the independent record label Saddle Creek Records and was once named Best Songwriter of the Year by Rolling Stone Magazine. The new Bright Eyes album, Five Dice, All Threes, is out now. Before we get into it with Connor, I just want to say that we have had really fun guests on The Colin Show recently, really great shows.

We had Ron Funches, we had Tom Lennon, we had Nicole Beier. So you give us a call, join in on the conversation, listen to the old episodes. And this week actually, speaking of music and Conor Oberst, we are doing a crazy concert stories with Tim Heidecker. Anyway, here's my conversation with Conor Oberst. Give it a listen, thanks.

["Can't You Tell My Love Is You"] Hello, Connor Roburst. Hello, Andy. How are you? I'm doing well, man. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming over here. It's a Monday afternoon. Yep.

Do you sleep in? Do you do like musician don't get up till noon kind of thing? I do. My routine is I stay up, well usually I stay up pretty late and then I go to sleep and I have a little dog, a little terrier, little mixed dog. Yeah. She's really cute. Her name is Petra.

So she has to get up at like seven and like, you know, go outside and get fed. Right. So I get up with her. I'm usually up for a half hour and then I like- A resentful half hour. Exactly. And then I go back to bed and then, yeah, you know, if it's a good day, I can sleep. I can sleep pretty late. I mean, yeah, it just depends what we got going on. Obviously, like tour and stuff, you gotta follow a little more of a schedule, but yeah.

Yeah, but no, I do find like, as an adult, you do set like a natural clock if left to your own devices, you know? And then you find, you tend to find your own rhythm, you know? I mean, I've had kids. I have two older kids and then a younger kid, so now everything's controlled. So you have 11 children, is what you're telling me.

I only have three. It feels like 11 sometimes. But no, it's just, I had gotten back to kind of setting my own clock, especially like, you know, during COVID. Sure. You know? But now I have a four-year-old and now it's like back to, oh yeah, that's right.

You gotta get up. Yeah. You know, it's like, it's, you know, which is in some ways I have always lived for someone else. Like, set the agenda, because me setting the agenda is like, I'm just not good at it. But that's also, that's very sweet.

I have no children that I can admit to on the radio. Right, right, right. And I have a really good- What's a podcast? Yeah, I have a really- And satellite radio. So that's like, you still can. I have a really good team of lawyers, you know.

They're allowed to write me like once a year, Father's Day. Right, right, right. Something positive, like an affirmation like, I love you, Dad. I hope everything's going good, you know. But no, but I have a lot of friends and my brothers. Anyway, I can't completely imagine, but I imagine, like I said, like getting up with like my little dog and doing that routine. I mean, that can't compare to like, like, what'd you say, like a four year old or

something. It's like, wow, that's gotta be, it's like a double, you got five jobs. Yeah. You're also lucky that your dog lets you go back to sleep because there's some dogs that'll be like, no, fuck that. You're up now. So get up. Do you live here now? So I have a house here and I have a house. I'm from Omaha, Nebraska, and I have a house there.

And that's where. Um, didn't you COVID there? Didn't you sort of hunker down there for. Actually, I weirdly hunkered down here. Oh, you did. Um, yeah, I like live in Echo Park and whatever. My girlfriend at the time, we were like one of those classic, it was just the two of us trapped in the house.

Yeah. And like... Slowly going insane. Yeah. First, second is romantic, and then it's just sadistic, and then you break up. But no, and then in Omaha, myself and this guy Mike Mogus who's in the band, Bright Eyes with me,

we have, our two houses are kind of a joined and we have a guest house in our studio in between our backyards. And he's an Omaha native too, right? Yeah. So that's kind of a pretty smooth situation. Very short commute to get up to the studio.

Nice. To work together. Yeah. So that's cool. And you own a bar there, right? I do. That was like of the stuff, the research I was reading, I was like, that was one of the things that jumped out. Yeah, it's called Page Turner's Lounge

and it was named after, it used to be, of course, this maybe says everything we need to know about our society, but it used to be a bookstore, closed down. Oh. It was called Page Turner's. Yeah, yeah. And then we got the space and we asked the guy, this old dude, we were like,

yo, we were thinking why don't we just call him Page Turns Lounge. Was that the name of the bookstore? Yeah, it was like a tribute and he was cool with it. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, so we did, but yeah, it's funny. Yeah, because I think for many people, owning a bar is like a dream,

but also like seems like a very dangerous dream. You know what I mean? Like it's like, you got, it's like, yeah, that would be fun and like, oh, that might be too much fun. Yeah. Well, and it's, and it's like one of those things, everyone like, I mean, Omaha is a small town

and whatever people gossip and I mean I've lived there obviously my whole life so a lot of people have a lot of opinions about things and they just assume because I mean our bar like people go there and it's I think it's like one of the nicest bars in town but they they just assume like you're like getting rich from it. It's like we've been open for like, I don't know, like 11 years and me and the other guy I own it with who was my guitar tech and stuff, I mean we pay our employees well and whatever,

we do okay but we haven't really made a cent off it like the entire time. It's like a literal public service. Yeah, yeah. And like we have a little stage, we have shows there, and we like let bands play, and we pay the bands, but there's no cover charge. So like we're making no money. Yeah, yeah.

But it is, you know, it's kind of like, like your friend out here was saying, it's like, you know, it's kind of like your little clubhouse. You can kind of hang with your friends. And if you ever have to have a party or a funeral, which we've had a couple. Oh, really? Yeah. You know, you got to-

Or if you have to kick a mobster to death, like in that movie, you know, it's good. You lock the door and then you, yeah. Do whatever you want. Nobody's saying anything. No, it seems like, do you think a lot of people go there and they're not aware of the, you know, like, do you have people go there that just like,

Connor heads and then other people that are just like, what a nice little bar, you know, both? Yeah, yes. Like we have, I mean, I think everyone that lives in town, it a nice little bar, you know? Both, yeah. Yes, like we have, I mean, I think everyone that lives in town, it's like the thing with, like I said, it's such a small town and like, it's really funny because like, I know everyone either because they're my friends

or they're, I have like a bazillion, like I have a huge, on my mom's side, a huge family, tons of cousins and all this stuff and aunts and like so it's like somebody knows somebody somebody's like married to somebody like it's like there's that and then there's just the people that like know the music and yeah so they sort of know me from that yeah and then actually my My my grandpa passed away like not too long ago, but like I mean don't don't cry

The man was like a hundred years old. Yeah, not at no joke Yeah, wow, and he was like he's like he was a pediatrician so like I'll get these like weird people that like come up to me like in the grocery store or something and like like weird people that like come up to me like in the grocery store or something and like I'll like think they're coming at me about like music or something and then they're like you know your grandpa like delivered like my three children. That's really nice. I have like many paths to fame in Omaha. Yeah, yeah.

That's really, really nice. I mean because it is know, that's fun. It's like when anybody approaches me and they'd be like, are you Will's dad? Yeah, I am. I am, actually. Exactly. Now, is it, I've always thought about, because I started being publicly creative. You know, I grew up like, and when I grew up

in a little town in Illinois, but I didn't really do anything until I got to the city. And I know Omaha's the city. To New York City. No, to Chicago. To Chicago first, and then on to, and then New York and then LA.

And soon, Paris. I just need to learn French. But I just wonder, like, when you start being creative in Omaha and you started young, like you find like are there like 30 creative people and you instantly know all of them? Yeah, I mean we definitely had like there was a subculture of music, which I'm very grateful for. But in one of the cool things is like I I feel like now with like the internet and, you know, I don't know, spending time.

I used to live in New York and live here. Anyway, there's like, you know, there's all these sub genres of music that don't really mean anything, you know? And like when we were kids, like growing up in, in Omaha, I was like, there was only like two places to play. So you didn't really get a choice. It was like the metal band played with the punk band, played with the new wave band, played with the little me, little kid folks singing with an acoustic guitar. It's like everyone played the same shows because there just wasn't that many shows.

So it's like, okay There's a show Friday night. I'm going right don't really care like if I like the band So we had that kind of going for us which I now later I like appreciate appreciate that it was like an eclectic environment and Yeah, it was such a small little scene that everyone really was supportive of each other, which I think sometimes in bigger cities, it kind of becomes more of like a competition, you know, like, yeah, who can like we're duking it out. Yeah. Yeah.

And like we didn't we didn't really have the luxury of that. And like, and then my friends and I, you know, we started our own record label when we were like basically kids and put out all our own music. Because it's like no one was like no one was going to like show. And like there wasn't going to be like an A&R guy like at the show, you know, it's like, right. And then we just started like making seven inches and shit and whatever and started touring in our little vans and cars.

My parents are slightly crazy when I think back because my first band when I was in high school I was 14 years old and the other guys in the band were probably five years older than me or something. And I mean, maybe it's because I was like the last, like had older brothers, like the last one, so my parents just were like, they gave up. Yeah. It happens. It happens. But they like let me go on tour. Like literally like 15 years old, like driving around the country in a van with like older kids

I mean for how long in a stretch? I mean like all summer Yeah, and then sometimes I would like convince them like if like we were gonna play like Like South by Southwest which is like in like April or used to be, I don't know, anyway, something like that, or we got somebody asked us to play a show, and I don't know, they would like, they'd get me out of school. Wow. So I could like, and then I just get in a van.

I remember like one of the guys in the band, my mom like gave him a letter, like all like typed up official, like if my son like needs to go to the hospital you have authority yeah but sign up yeah yeah yeah yeah give him a heart transplant Wow Wow well I mean did you were they proven wrong or right by your behavior out on the road a little bit of both probably a little bit of both I mean the thing is like when I was that age like when I was in high school doing that stuff

Like I didn't really like I wasn't really trying to get like fucked up or anything And I always had like my attitude like I went to like a all boys Jesuit Catholic high school and so it was I mean I was like invisible I didn't have any friends there and talked to anyone like all my Friends were in bands that went to like other high schools and probably public eyes. Yes, I bet exactly Yes, and so I didn't really have any interest in that Thing but but I did I was smart enough to be like as long as I get good grades Yeah, they're gonna let me keep doing this shit But but I did. I was smart enough to be like, as long as I get good grades. Yeah, they're going to let me keep doing this shit.

So so I I was like a good student and I really didn't. I don't know. I guess I kind of smoked weed, but I didn't really drink. I don't know. I was like I was a pretty good kid. And yeah. And then and then when I, you know, hit my like 19 early twenties and like everything went to shit. Yeah. And then I discovered all the drugs and then, and then my life changed.

And then my life changed. Then I became what you see before me. Yeah. And then, and then, and then, you know, I mean, it's like when I'm sure similar to you, it's like you're it is always there is a certain like mind fuck when you like, you know, whatever you get some sense of like fame and money at like an early age, you know? Yeah, yeah. I got like my first publishing deal when I was like 19 and like I bought a house, like a little tiny house in Omaha. And I was like, I was obviously the first like friend of mine that like owned a house. So then it's like everyone's at your house every day.

I don't even know that I've ever spoken to a person that bought a house at 19. Honestly, throughout my entire life, to buy a house at 19 is pretty amazing. And especially with your money. Yeah, it wasn't even like, and it was like, I signed this, it published in the US, Sony, I think they gave me like, I don't think they gave me like a $50,000 advance or something, and I like, you know, Omaha, it's cheap. Yeah, that'll buy. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. That'll buy your house. So like, yeah, I think my house is like ninety nine thousand dollars and my dad like helped me like get the loan and like, you know, like whatever. I had like my 30 year fixed mortgage and like, you know, I'm like, yeah, doing the whole like thing that I mean, when I think back I was like man I was like so I was so young like dead yeah probably wasn't prepared for no that level of like adulthood

can't you tell my loves it was your brother going on tour with you? Because I know your brother played with you. So is that, do you think maybe that was kind of, that was sort of built into your parents being a little calmer about it? Yeah. And my dad was a musician like growing up, like he played, I mean, he worked at Mutual of Omaha, like worked in an insurance company, but he had a band that would play weddings and they just did cover songs.

Yeah, yeah, just for fun, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it was actually kind of like his second job. They would get paid, but it's like. Oh, even when you were a kid, you'd go, oh wow, that's cool. It was like the first time I ever got on stage, I was like six years old and I sang that. At the time, like La Bamba, I remember that movie, came out and so the first time I was ever on stage I was like six years old and I like sang that at the time like La Bamba

I remember that movie came out and so like the first time I was ever on stage I was like I was literally like six years old. Yeah. Yeah, I sing that like oh Anyway like like with like fronting his band and like everyone I thought it was cute right go this little kid, you know But yeah, he used to have to like learn he punt. He was kind of like the utility guys So he played some keyboards he played some saxophone guitar But like so he'd have to learn like whatever like You know like man eater or something like whatever like that whatever the hit music the hot sun

I had to like learn like the sax part shuffle. Yeah. Yeah better and then my oldest brother Maddie like RIP, but he yeah, he was he was in bands like all growing up so like I would like sit in the basement and like he you know, he was in like, kind of like punk bands and loud bands and I would sit down there and like, watch him like, rehearse with his bands and so. Yeah. Yeah, I had, I had, and there was instruments around the house and stuff so like, I was, I was very privileged in that regard to have that stuff just around me. So it was- Did you feel like an open pride from your parents

that you were doing this? Like did they, or was it more kind of just a guarded, like, well you follow your dreams, you know, kind of thing. I think at first it was more just like, oh, like that's what I guess our kids- Our boys do. Do. Yeah. I mean, I remember like, like, you know, more like. I guess kind of once the bright eyes really kicked off, like we had this,

I guess, like really like this record in like 1999 called like Fears and Mirrors. And then we made another every record kind of got bigger you know it's like one of those like oh like it's also funny around Omaha where it's like everyone's like oh like you know it's cute like they're all like they play in their little bands yeah and then like the first like the very first I think it was like 2003 I I don't know, I was like 22 or 23 or something, and played Letterman for the first time,

first time on television, and then all of a sudden, everyone like, all your parents' friends, and everyone's like, oh wow. I know. Thanks for that, like, this, you must, you guys must be like a big deal. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, like, what's Letterman like? I'm like, he doesn't talk to you, This you this you must this you yes must be like a big deal. Yeah. Yeah like oh

Like what's letterman like I'm like he doesn't talk to you and his and his studio is like negative 500 degrees And I wish I would have brought my fucking parker My fucking hands are free. Yeah, you know yeah but like it takes like like in a place like Omaha like takes that till they get people to be like You know realize you know yeah, absolutely might be doing something of value Yeah, no, I mean you know in my world It was it was like I was doing comedy and and doing shows on the road and even like you know I've got a little couple of parts like in it. I got a part in what we used to call cable movies.

Uh-huh. You know, when- Talking lifetime here? No, no. Hallmark? It was, I think it was, I think it was for Showtime, I'm not sure. But I mean, it was a legit movie, but it was the same thing.

It was when I got on TV and it was like, oh! Right. I don't, I don't,'t like before that it was all just kind of like, well, that's great with all of this behind it. Like, what a fucking idiot. What's he doing? What the fuck is he doing? Jesus Christ. And my, you know, and even like when I, when I left the Conan show to come out here and do my own thing, my dad was like, oh, that's great. Oh, I know it's been, I know you've kind of had the urge to do that. And I know you've, you know, you've been antsy for a while, but if it doesn't work

out, can you come back and work for Conan? I was like, thanks dad. You could have given it, like just wait until the next phone call to say that. You don't have to say it like within 10 seconds of me saying, I'm stepping out. Yeah. Oh really? Well if it's a horrible failure, you come crawling back? Yeah. I did! I came crawling back. He was right. You know, you always need a plan B, you know. Yeah, yeah. I got a bunch of Plan B on my nightstand. You know what I mean? So. Well, but it's... It's always...

But I mean, it's also, it's working with friends. And like, you've been, I mean, you were writing songs when you were 12, right? And somebody was, somebody else was like, shit, you're 12 and you're writing songs? And was that sort of the encouragement that you needed to start showing them to people and playing them for people? Totally. Like I said, like very lucky to have, well, my older brothers, but then also like that, this whole like group of friends, the ones that we all kind of...

The public school kids. Exactly. Actually, a lot of them were fucking Catholic school kids too. No, they weren't. That's because we were all crazy enough to like... But anyway, I felt enough guilt to like want to express it. But no, we started the label, but like I said, they were all kind of like five, six years older than me, but like, yeah, like loving their bands, like local bands, and having them sort of give me, I guess like affirmation or whatever, like tell me my songs were good and help me record them when I was really young and got me on like local show,

like, you know, local shows and stuff like that. So yeah, I just, it was kind of just a perfect storm of like support really. And I, yeah, I think without all that, I certainly wouldn't have ended up with the life that I've had. Now, when you say when you got to 19 and 20, that's when you kind of started to lose yourself

a little bit, let's say. Fully embrace. But I mean, do you think that there was some aspect of that? Was it just like, because we're sitting here talking about your parents letting you go on tour. But once you're 19 and 20, if you want to fuck up, you can fuck up. Like your parents can't stop you from fucking up at that point.

Yeah. And I, and I got into a situation where I was like, all of a sudden it was like, got a real booking agent. It was like real tours. I mean, we were still at that point, we were still in a van, but by 2002 we were like in a bus and like tour managers and you know, all the whole shebang. You're like 22 at that point. Yeah. Yeah. And then I mean, yeah, I mean, just like, whatever. It's like discovering like, you know, hard drugs and staying up all night and, you know, like just fully going

like in, I mean, I don't think I ever did it like in like a cliche sort of way, but I just, there's just so much of that like temptation when you're, especially when you're that age and you're just out there and you're like really like People are just I mean in my world I I grew up like very like firmly like middle classes like when people are like Throwing you money and like throwing you drugs and you're like playing in a different town every night And yeah, you're just like meeting all these people and like people wanna, you know,

like whatever sort of people you look up to, famous people wanna like meet you and talk to you, you know what I mean? It's just like- Sure, yeah, it's a lot for a young brain to handle, yeah. Yeah, and so I think- Was there like, cause there's the adoration too, like that can be, that can be like Sauron's eye.

You know what I mean? It can be like, it's really nice and it's kind of what you're searching for. But like all of a sudden people really are into you and it feels scary. No, totally. I mean, I remember like, like walking out, you know and it's not like we were playing very like big venues or anything, but I remember like walking out, you know, and it's not like we were playing very big venues or anything,

but I remember like, and this is kind of almost like, I mean, it's definitely like pre, like everyone had a cell phone and stuff, but let's like, I remember like walking out on stage, you know, I'm talking like 2004, 2005, we made this one record that was definitely like our most famous record. And I'm like, on that, like that tour, it's like we'd like walk out on stage

and it was just like, like so many cameras. Like so many flashes that I was like, okay, am I gonna have a seizure right now? I need to just like play my songs. Yeah, yeah. And it was like, but I mean, luckily, like I do feel it's a good thing that I sort of, I think grew up the way I did around the people I did

and like from the Midwest and shit that like, our whole group of friends, like, you know, we love like Fugazi and like Discord records and like Merge, like all the group of friends like we you know we love like fugazi and like discord records and like merge like all the kind of like punk punk and shit so we also thought the whole thing was like phony so like and like these record labels like which now I kind of regret but these records they offered us a lot of money and we were just like too cool for school we're like like we're too cool for that so like we had

that like whatever that like militant in the bullshit you know yeah yeah we never like let anything like our songs on commercials or movies and now I say yes to everything by the way so if anyone wants any movie, SYNX. Hello Pepsi. Yeah. Petco, have I got a song for you. But no, I mean we turned down so much money like in the early days when we could have like gotten like probably like way more rich and famous But at the end of the day, I think it all kind of turned out the way it is. I'm definitely not hurting for anything.

And I'm not... You want to bar. Exactly. Yeah. You must be doing well. You want to bar that makes no money. Yeah, no, I mean, I find as you get older, you calm down and you're just like, take it easy. You just tell your old, I got a really cool opportunity to do a Q&A with talking heads

at a 40th anniversary screening of Stop Making Sense at the Pantages where they made it. Awesome. And like the main, aside from just can't, can't, you know, pinch me and I'm over showbiz. You know what I mean? Like I've met everybody and I'm kind of a dick anyway, but it's like, but you know, I just, I've gotten to a point where I'm a little unimpressed

with a lot of stuff. Sure. But like that was impressive. Like I had a definite moment on stage of like, what the fuck? Cause I saw that tour twice. And I think I was in high school, you know, or just freshman year of college. But I asked David Byrne, like,

what's it like for you to see yourself, your 40 years ago self, cause they were really taking the movie around and doing, and he said, I just wanted to take him and say, Dave, calm down. It'll be okay. And I was like, that's so true. Like because you're just your old self. You're like, so much stuff matters that your old self could tell you like, no, don't, why

did you do that? That shit does not matter. Yeah, very much. I love when they do the running, the running thing, like the running dance. That's like, I mean, they had so much, much time and they still have so much style. Yeah, I like he's got a solo record that I've really really loved called a Grown backwards, you know, there's one. I don't know it but I've heard of it. Yes check that one out I don't know what like 10 years ago or something, but

But no, I mean amazing obviously. Yeah inventive incredible. Yeah, Dan, but yeah, it's like yeah I mean I did I've done so much stupid shit and like like I Mean Embarrassed myself like so many ways, but it's like I guess you just kind of had to do it and I also had that kind of like I don't know it's not even like oh like I'm a bad boy or something but like I just had that I just have always had the streak of like I remember one time we were playing this like festival in

Europe and I was like we were playing like the main stage were like in the afternoon and I Forget what fucking rappers some Like I don't know big pop star was like headlining later And yeah, and there was like a catwalk that went out into the crowd. Yeah. Yeah, and The stage manager that came out to me and he's like, okay, like have a good show but just do not walk, do not go on the catwalk because that's for whoever. Right, right.

And then my long time sound guy, I turned away and they couldn't tell I was still listening to them and he's like, why did you tell him that? Now he's like 100% gonna do it. The whole show out there. And that's like exactly what happened. Like I like try to get as far out onto it as I can,

like pulling the fucking microphone. Because I mean, I'm just like, you know what I mean? It's like someone tells you not to do something that you find like just fundamentally stupid. It's like you're gonna just, I don't know, maybe I'm the asshole in that situation. No, no, no, absolutely. Because it is kind of a funny thing to do too. Yeah. Okay, boss, no problem.

And that's exactly what I said to him. I was like, absolutely, no worries. Absolutely. Yeah. No problem. And that's exactly what I said to him. I was like, absolutely, no worries. Absolutely. Yeah. No problem. I would never dream of it, of going out on, you know, sugar rays, catwalk. Oh.

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Oh. Oh. Oh. Can't you tell my love's a girl? When I was looking at Spotify, you know, I was listening to, like going back and listening to some of your stuff on Spotify and like there's the, you know, the list of playlists and one was sad indie, you know? And, but I mean, but you, you have a lot of heavy songs, you know, like a lot of really

kind of heavy songs, you know, like a lot of really kind of heavy songs. And I wonder, like as you're playing and you're getting big and your music is, I mean, some of it's just straight up romantic, you know, beautiful love song kind of stuff. But there's a lot of heavy stuff. And are you, were you ever worried that like, what if I get happy?

Like, it's gonna fuck everything up. Andy, that's never been a problem for me. I love it, nevermind. Nevermind. No, I mean, I think like, I find that, cause yeah, there obviously is like, well, I mean, I've been like semi-obsessed with like, death and stuff like that since I was like a literal child.

So there's that. Probably felt good to your parents. You know. There's like a part of my brain that just is like wired that way, whatever. But I also like, I love like having laughs and having fun. I think a lot of people like who don't know me and then they meet me like they are like, whoa, like this guy is just like always joking around and like barely takes anything serious at all.

Yeah. But when it comes to writing, I don't know, I always feel like I can't write in a state of like heightened emotion in the sense of like if I'm super depressed or something like that, I just like, I don't want to get out of bed. I'm gonna do anything. And then if I'm like, you know, like the few times in my life I've been lucky enough to like really like fall in love or like really like hit a really sweet

Beautiful spot in life. I don't want to write then either because I'm like enjoying myself Yeah, let's go for a drive. I don't care. It's like the last thing on my mind Yeah, yeah, so it's like really I have to like when I write the most it's like kind of like these like ordinary times where you're able just to like reflect on things and then also like everything like to me it's like if there's some kind of vent or just something that affects me in my life it's like a delayed effect like it'll take me three years before it like ends up in a song. You know what I mean? And does it sneak up on you?

Like, do you set out to write the song about that thing that happened? No, it just comes back. Like, and it's like, so it's like, it's definitely not like, oh, like, got in a fight or you got like your heart broke or, know and like you run into sit down I'll show her yeah like scribble in your notebook back. It's like not at all like that it's like it has to be that's like time has to pass and you have like for me I have to be in some sort of like almost like like I guess reflective but also like I

Don't know like nonchalant or like just like it's like I can like see but also like, I don't know, like nonchalant or like just like, it's like I can like see it for like what it is. Yeah, yeah. And then I think like the lyrics and stuff are like cooler because they're like. Well, you've got an objective view of them. You're not like in the middle of the feelings.

So you can like think like, how are these words working together? Exactly. Where does the bridge go? And all the mechanical stuff. Totally, yeah. You have a little bit of, yeah, just distance from the experience that I think makes, I think makes for a better song.

You know what I mean? Because I have written songs fast, like in some fury, and they kind of end up being the shittier songs. Really? You know what I mean? Because I have written songs like Fast, like in some Fury, and like they kind of end up being like the shittier songs. Really? You know? Do you, was the, did songwriting always kind of serve that purpose for you, even when you started as a little kid?

Like to really kind of be like, this is like an off gassing, you know, of this stuff that I don't really want to talk about and that like in my sort of free and breezy outside Personality. Yeah, I mean I never I'm like and I'm Okay, I'm not fishing for a compliment, but maybe I'm fishing for a little bit of a compliment. I think you're But now I was gonna say like I'm not of to say like I'm not a very good guitar player.

I just play chords. I play piano, but same thing. I just play basically chords to like sing over. So like when like my brother and my dad, I mean I never had any formal education, but they taught me how to play chords. Yeah. chords yeah and like I mean I think I learned like blowing in the wind and like my brother taught me oh you I read I read an interview and one of them was was a replacement yeah here comes the regular And I don't know, maybe like an R.A.M. song or something that he liked, Cura song or something.

Anyway, but like, barely just enough chords to sing and then immediately, as soon as I knew like two chords, I just started writing songs. Yeah. Like I have like, I'm kind of jealous of like a lot of my friends, like they went through like the stage of like they ordered Guitar Magazine and they had all the tablatures and they learned like every whatever. To shred. Yeah.

And I'm like, it's great because they can play guitar well. Yeah. And I like, I had the opposite thing where I'm just like, oh, OK, here's an E and here's an A. And and I was I was much more interested in like putting the words to the chords. Like that was always like where I guess I was attracted to that aspect of it. So consequently, I have never been that great. I'm not the guy you want to take the guitar solo.

I'll tell you that. Well, it's also, when you think about, there's all different kinds of guitarists. And one of my favorite guitarists is Neil Young. And he's not exactly precise. You know what I mean? It's like. But he can shred.

He can shred, but it's not like Ingve Malmsteen or anything. No, sure. It's like his own style. Yeah, and I mean, you've got your own thing that has been very influential for, you know, you're the king of sad indie I mean I don't know I realize that sad indie that's just so hilarious yeah where's the sad

in I know well you know when you think about it just thought like the definition of sad you know you you kind of have to be independent yeah yeah yeah there's no yeah Bruno Mars is a right a lot of sad song. Well, I mean if you got someone like that's like There with you that cares about you. You're probably not gonna be sad. Yeah, you're just independent. You're by yourself That's hilarious. I mean, are you in a good place right now? Do you feel like? I think so. Yeah.

I mean, it's like, my shit's like always up and down. I mean, we made it, you know, I'm also like kind of like, well, I'm a lot of like a holics, but I'm like also like like, well, I'm a lot of like, a-holics, but I'm also like a workaholic, and so when we're making music and touring and doing stuff, I tend to feel better and like, focused, you know? I'm bad at like, I mean, I've just traveled so much

in my life that the idea of like, taking a vacation for fun is like, just doesn't really. Doesn't make sense. At all. Yeah. I've been to all these places so many times, granted for like usually like a day or two.

Yeah. To play a show, but still it's like, I don't know. Anyway, I. No, I can see going home would be the like the fun. Yeah. Yeah. Like I like to like, you know, whatever, like just chill at my house and like hang out with my friends and like sleep late with my dog.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, like that type of stuff is like what I like. Um, I mean, I do like, I will say I do like, I feel like I don't like, I like, I don't collect anything. I don't care about Guitars any shit like that. I like you know, I like nice restaurants and like

Nice wine and stuff like that like pretty basic shit Yeah, I sit with your friends and like have a conversation. So I feel like in that sense, I'm like that it doesn't take that much to make me happy. But I do like we finished this record and it's going to come out in September and then we're going to go on tour and. In a weird way, like I guess just because it's been so much of my life, but that. like, I guess just because it's been so much of my life, but that, that time, like when you're just on the tour bus and you're like, you're just in between anything and like, no one can really find you and you're just like with your friends and you're like laughing and you're like in this like invisible space. Like ground control to major Tom.

Yeah. Like we're going down the highway and like, there's like, you're sort of, I don't know, it's like, you're free from anything. You're kind of like, you don't, I mean, you don't have to, people will still try to call you, but you don't have to answer your phone, because you can be like, I didn't have reception. Right, exactly.

Sorry. I think the life you love is making music with your friends, and you can't wait to get on the road again Man, Willie Willie's still hanging on. He's still hanging I feel like or like I like I just like every every time like it's like we lose one I'm like we lost like John Prine like my heart was like fucking broken No, every time Willie you for anything, I'm like, what? I know. Yeah.

But the dude's like 90, what, one? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. It's like, wow. And then like you got Bobby D. He's still I mean, he sold his soul to the devil. So he's like he's like, you know, yeah, yeah. He's got some other kind of like like black magic going on right back there. But like, yeah, he's got some other kind of like, like black magic going on right back there. But like, yeah, Leonard Cohen, that was that was a fucking sad one.

There's a lot of them. Yeah. You know, they, you know, it's hard to. It's hard. It was like like pandemic was fucked up. I felt like every other day was like one of my favorite musicians or authors or somebody died. Yeah, and it does, well, I mean, I think there does tend to be, you do have a tendency of like, there's no one to replace them, but you know, there is kind of. I mean, music has changed and, you know, like rock and roll is different than it used to be, you know. But yeah, but I mean, but there's you. You know, people will be sad when you die.

Well, I hope that you will be. Listen, you're out living me. Nick, you're out living me. I want like a special, like, memoriam just show, show just dedicated where all three of you guys are just crying just crying just telling stories sobbing rending our garments the album is called five dice all threes and there's dice motifs throughout the whole album yeah are you like a Yahtzee addict? Is that what's going on? Well, it's like the game's called threes. It's like, I don't know, it's a it's it's like a game that my friends in New York taught me and play. But essentially what

it is, you have five dice, you roll them. Every time you roll, you have to take one, one die, at least you can take more than one But the threes are zeros and you're so you're going for the lowest score. Yeah, so you do it until you Till you've roll roll or you take yeah, and then you pass it. It's usually like a circle. There's usually money involved. Yeah. Yeah and that's kind of the concept. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess it's just like, I guess it's like, I don't know, the flex or whatever is just that like that's, it very rarely happens. But if you were to do that, that's like the perfect role. Right. So it's kind of like telling everyone to fuck off. Like's the perfect fucking perfect role. Yeah, it's the perfect record

It's also I mean there's also something now that I know that it's also like it's very reductive It's like working down to zero. Yeah in steps. Yeah, no like down to nothing Yeah, you're a winner when you get zero. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And you need to let, I mean, I just feel like once you guys start, which I think you all will start playing this, like tonight probably, and it does get like very like addictive. Like, it's like you want to play all the time just because it's just like, it's just something to do.

Is it a cumulative thing or does it just go around the table once well usually? like I mean depends who you're playing with if you're playing like Like we used to play at this bar in New York a lot and then people are putting cash down So every time you take the cash I see but if you're playing with like your friends like like your house or something Yeah, so now as we just we just keep a tally. And then you gotta, someone's got Venmo's on at the end. Right, right, it's a dollar a point or whatever. Yeah, some people play for singles,

some people play for fives, some people pay for 20s. Ooh, wow. They're like, you know. I don't play for that bubblegum money shit though. I'm like, okay. Yeah, it's play for that bubble gum money shit though, you know Yeah, it's got a hurt. Yeah, why would I even get involved? Yeah, I Mean was that Was there something metaphorical that appealed to you that to that to you or is it just really like it's just it's a fun game And you know, no, I mean I think that I think

I do a Connor Oberst all three's game coming out I mean I I think that like what's like I don't know for if we're going if you'd like to understand the metaphor and sure I would just please sit back and relax this is gonna take a minute no I think just like the idea of perfection and that it's like not really obtainable. Yeah. And then, you know, I mean, it's a little, I guess, a little cheesy, but it's like everything, life, everything is like a game of chance. Really. So we are all rolling the dice, as they would say. And I feel like I feel that way. way like I feel that way all the time Yeah, yeah, like I'm rolling the dice. Yeah, and like you you're hoping for the best but like

Probability is Against you. Yeah in those situations I think you know is is music the thing that boys you the most in terms of feeling like that it's not all chaos? That you're not just rolling dice over and over and that there's no progress? Do you say that it bores me the most? No, no, it boys you. Oh, it boys you.

Yeah, yeah, like anchors you. So I'm gonna say bores, yes. It is the thing that bores me the most. In the sense that you can roll with it. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, no. I mean, I've had many experiences where, for whatever reason, like, being in a super dark place for whatever, various reasons, and just really like you ever go like a

haunted house and they have the thing that's like that's like the like the chicken exit you know before you go down like or that one scary ride yeah you know yeah like sometimes I find myself just being like, looking for the chicken exit. Yeah. You know what I mean? And just being like, wow, I don't really belong on this earth and I don't really feel connected to anything at all and then a lot of times like this will happen on tour and then it gets to the it gets to the show or even even if it just gets to like the sound check and

like start playing with the band and then I'm like like there's like a physical relief where I'm like, this is what I should be doing. I'm like, I'm so glad I'm here and I'm surrounded by my friends and I'm expressing myself and I'm communicating with these strangers who I will probably never know in my life. Yeah. But like they're here to like experience this thing that I'm making with my friends. And yeah, I mean, it's definitely not like that every night.

But like on the good times, and especially like I feel like when I like needed it the most, like it's usually like come through for me. Yeah. And that, that is like a, I mean that is a type of like magic that, that, you know, I don't really fucking believe in God or any shit. Like I think everything is kind of bullshit, but like music, you know, music, love, friendship.

Yeah. Those things are like, I think, kind of undeniable. Yeah. You know? What about therapy? And I, you know. I have. Because, you know, when you describe.

All right, what are you saying, Andy? Because it feels like you're suggesting something. We've got someone right here. This is an intervention. There's no podcast. No, I mean, when you... Because I completely relate to feeling sometimes like there's nowhere on Earth that I fit, and I'm not sure if I've ever connected with anyone in a real way.

Like, maybe I was kidding myself. I don't, you know, I mean, it's, cause I've had, you know, had depression my whole life and often feel, have felt like, like, I think when people talk about like a sunset, like I don't know that I've ever experienced like that what they're, what they have now. They happen every night.

I know, I know. I can just say. But you know, but just like, but that, just like, oh my god, it's so beautiful. I'm always like, yeah, it's nice. You know, it's pretty. You know, I don't know if it's Midwestern or what. But therapy has been a huge help for that, you know? And when I hear somebody say that, I think therapy.

No. Therapy, therapy. No, I've been, I've had so many therapists and I've been on some sort of you know, antidepressant psycho whatever fucking drugs like since I was like, what am I, 44 now? But I did like a few years ago, I was really, really, really dark, like bad, like suicidally dark. And then I met, I got hooked up with this psychiatrist who's the first person in that field that's like ever actually helped me. And that was like probably like, I don't know, like three or four years ago. Yeah. Wow.

And she's just like, she's cool because she can do, because a lot of them, you know, they'll just, they'll either do the talk therapy or they'll do like the psychiatry, like give you the pills thing. And she's actually like, she does both of those. She's like, or whatever, trained to both of those things, which is like so helpful because like in the past, it'd be like, you go to your therapist and like, you might like your therapist and they like make you feel a little better and like, kind of like I had, I mean, I have had a couple that I've liked, but, and then they have to like send the recommendation to the psychiatrist

who like doesn't give a shit at all. And you go into their office for five minutes and they just go, there you go, there's your pills. Good luck with that. And then all the other fucking shit you put in your body, like hope it all mixes right, you know. But this woman is amazing and she, yeah, she like talks to you and knows you and is very like, you know, responsible with like, she wants, I don't know, she's just, she's really helped me.

So I think that that's just been like a, just a really good development in my life. It is, yeah, it's possible to find, and when you find somebody, you fuck it. I mean, I've talked to this, I've had the same talk therapist, Jesus, like, going on 30 years now, you know. Damn. Yeah, yeah.

I'm still not fucking fixed. Ha ha ha! God damn it. It's like, there's, a friend of mine once joked and said that he has a boat named Glenda, which is my mother's name. Which I was like, that's pretty good. Yeah, no, I mean, it is. It's, if you got the, if you, you know, if you're dealt that hand to get back to game metaphors,

it's like you gotta deal with it. My kid, it's like, sorry, honey, here's your legacy. Feeling bad about shit. I know, like my mother, both my mom and dad are truly the sweetest, like most like normal, saintly, kind fucking people. Yeah. But like their parents were completely fucking crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. And then like me and my brothers and like our generation of kids generation are like out of their fucking minds. And so it's like it's like it is like, I don't know. It's like it's like I don't know. But like my mom carries like weird guilt where she feels like she passed on these like.

Bad jeans or whatever you What are you gonna do? Yeah. And it's like, yeah. Come on, mom. It's not your fault that, you know, that your parents were out of their fucking minds. Yeah, yeah. You know? It's like you did the best, you were like the best mom like ever.

Yeah. You know? So I just feel bad because it's like, like a lot of people, like, I think they, when they have like bad relationships or whatever, they kind of blame or they, they think like, oh, I had a bad example. Like, my parents, like, they're had such a troubled relationship or whatever. And then that's kind of how they deflect whatever their struggles are. And I feel like it's been the opposite with my parents, where it's like they almost,

they gave me too good of an example. They went to prom together when they were 14 years old. Wow. And they just 14 years old Wow, and they did just turn 70 Wow, and I think like for like a second maybe in college They like had like another but they've basically been together that entire time Wow, and they're like still in love with each other and like go on like walks in the morning and shit Yeah, yeah, and I'm like, you know, I've been, I was married for like eight years. I mean, I still, like my wife, my ex-wife, anyway, she's like one of my best friends.

I love her. But my point being is like, I've managed to like fuck up every single relationship like I've ever been in. And it's not there, it's not because of them. Yeah. You know what I mean? it's not because of them. It's almost like the opposite. Do you think they set, do you think that somewhere in your mind

they set too high a standard? I mean, or they didn't do it on purpose, but there's a higher standard set than what you think you can accomplish. Totally, and I think the same with my brothers. They both, yeah, well, yeah, like I said, one's gone, but the other, I mean, anyway, they both end up getting, having kids and then getting divorced and blah, blah, blah.

And I think that they, I think because of how cool and like, just really just unlikely, like, virtuous and kind my parents are. I think that they just like, when stuff started going wrong with them, they just felt so much like guilt, but they, you know, they couldn't live up to this thing that then they like started like kind of losing their minds a little bit. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So like, that's- It's unfortunate,

cause it is like, it's, you know, your parents, I'm sure that they work at it, you know, because everybody kind of has to, but they also just might be really lucky. Like, you find the right person and, you know, there is, you know, this notion that you have soul mates is just ridiculous. You know? I agree.

I mean, it's like. I mean, except you and I. I mean, I think like, we might be like the one exception. If we get videos from this, we need to like animate hearts popping above us like bubbles. No, but I mean, you know, you can, you make it work. You know, like you meet somebody that you, you know,

there's a lot, there's a lot there and then you, and then the rest is work and you know, and it, and it's, it's too bad, you know, because, but it's, you know, I say this all the time, like the thing about life is it only takes like 40 or 50 years to get the hang of it. You know, it's like, yeah, it's, you know. And then there's the chicken eggs when you want it.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Is there stuff like left undone for you? Do you have like grand designs for the future or do you just kind of play it as it comes? Yeah, I'm kind of coasting. I mean, I don't I'm not big on making like plan plans, you know, like, I mean, we I am constantly making plans like the record comes out. We go on tour for like two years, like blah, blah, blah. But like those aren't really plan plans. I mean, I don't know.

Honestly, like it would be fun to like, I don't think that I ever, like, kind of for like some of those same reasons, like, I don't know that I'd ever like having children isn't like a desire of mine, but it'd be fun to like, I don't know, really like fall in love again, like head over heels, like, like, like, I mean, it's happened to me a few times in my life where it's like, kind of everything, nothing else really matters. Cause it's like, oh, I just want to be with this person, hang out, I don't really care, like what we're doing,

what we're not doing. You know, like still, even though it didn't work out, I was married for like eight years, but I still think like, when I think about like when I married Karina, that was probably like the best thing like I ever did, because she's like such a kind person. And like, it's like, we had like, I mean, it was very like magical again,

like whatever, I fucked it up, or time fucked it up, or circumstances. Or just, yeah, you know. But you get what you get. If you were happy for a minute, it was a success. Yeah, no, and that's what I think about it. It's like, you know, there's like these little blocks of time where it does seem like the universe sort of, I don't know, like consolidates in a way that, where, yeah, I mean, I guess

it's just being happy. You get lucky, yeah. You get where everything aligns. Yeah, because I was married for 25 years and then got divorced and then was single for a few and I'm remarried now and I love being married. Like, the notion of, of like, you know, like, would there's all these other people out there

that's like, are, ugh, what are you talking about? The idea is to hunker down with one and then like really go to town, like, would there's all these other people out there. And it's like, are, ugh, what are you talking about? The idea is to hunker down with one and then like really go to town at like getting to know each other and being comfortable together. But when I was single, I really did have this feeling of, because I do, I wanted to be in love. And it really, there is part of it that is just like, you're just trying to find somebody. And because, you know, dating and there's like some people, it just doesn't match.

Like there's all kinds of good stuff, but then it just doesn't work or, or they're like mysteriously like unavailable. And, and, and it really, I just had this feeling of like, you just want someone that like, cause you, it exists in everyone, the capability of sitting down with somebody, and then you just do this drug together. Like there's, like you just decide like, let's do this drug together. And it's just in your head and in your heart. And then you're just, like, you're just like lifted to like, about as nice as it gets, you know? And I do think that that exists. You can't force it, but.

Are you asking me to do MDMA with you tonight? Is that what's going on? Because I do have a hot tub. It's Monday, it's Monday. I can't do that on a Monday, I'm old. No, although that MDMA, I never got the opportunity for the MDMA. Really? Yeah, yeah. I'm coming. No. Although that MDMA, I never got the opportunity for the MDMA.

Really? Yeah, yeah. I'm coming over this weekend. All right, all right. No, it actually is one of the best drugs. But no, I know what you're saying. It's like, I think when you are like, you know, whatever, like not to be like super whatever,

but like I think when you are in love in that way and you feel that like it's just us. And really like nothing else really matters. And like they can throw a million fireballs and just bullshit at us. And we're gonna be like unaffected because like we have each other and we have this like force field around us.

Yeah, it's shining the light on each other. It's so intense that it's like everything else just bounces off. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's the best. I think that's like, so I don't know. I don't know if that counts as a plan, but I would, I guess that counts as like a wish. Staying open to it is definitely...

Yeah. And that again is something that it takes active. Because if you let go, I mean, that's the one thing I feel about getting older, is just I just so badly want to stay open to things as opposed to closing off to things. Totally. Because that's so easy to do and I see it so much You know yeah, I try like I try to like not like Get jaded like about like music and stuff like that

I'm like there's a lot of things that are like or just culture everything. I'm just like there's things that like I Don't understand cuz I am like at this point of like a different generation like a lot of these people but like Yeah, I never wanted I don't ever want to be like the curmudgeon II like just like old fucking asshole God, it's like yeah, everything sucks Before yeah, it's like, you know, so, but yeah, that takes, that does take some work.

Cause it's easy to fall into just a cynical, cynical little trap. But I don't know, man. I think that, I don't know. I guess I just think we should do some MDMA this weekend. Is that your, is that, is that what you've learned? Is that your biggest lesson you've learned? I don't know, I guess I just think we should do some MDMA this weekend. All the ups and downs, the life on the road. I was married to the road, you know? I didn't have time for anything else.

Darling. Just say everything in a Bruce Springsteen voice, you'll be fine. No, I think, I don't know. I mean, I guess I kinda already said it, but I do think for me, it really is like, it's like my friends, it's like being, you know, some sort of creative outlet,

hopefully like some kind of romantic love. I don't know, like just, yeah I guess just like like you're saying like staying open like having an open mind and also like just being willing to like like learn new things yeah you know I mean like like like knowing like I don't know I don't know where I don't know shit I don't know. Yeah, I barely know anything that I am like a curious person and I do think I have like in the ability to like, you know absorb new information and Process it in my brain and like make it part of my life

so like I don't know when I, when I like learn something new from like whatever a book or documentary or somebody conversation, whatever, it's like that I think that that newness and that like sort of the joy of like discovering something is, that's pretty powerful, you know? And I do think you're right, like, unfortunately people can get like really closed off to that, like, for whatever reason.

Yeah, I think a big one is cause it's, you get hurt. You get hurt and then you just hunker down and, you know, escape and grow a shell and just wait it out. And that's, that is no good, people. Don't do that. Five Dice, all threes is the new album from Brideye's. It's coming out September 20th.

And there's already, there are already a couple of singles out there, right? Yeah. Threes is the new album from Bright Eyes. It's coming out September 20th. And there's already, there are already a couple of singles out there, right? Yeah. Bells and whistles and then Rainbow. Rainbow Overpass. Overpass, yeah. Yep.

So yeah, it does. Which are both bangers. They're really, yeah. Thanks, man. No, they're really like, like radio ready. They're really, no, they're great. I mean, you know, they're, they're bright day songs. Yeah. But they're, but they really like radio ready. They're really great. I mean, you know, they're, they're Friday songs, but they're, but they really, you know.

Yeah, I think that, I mean, this record is like a little more, I guess, for lack of a better word, sort of lighthearted, I suppose. Like, or it's like a little, it's like, like the last record we made, like the Down in the Weeds, Where the World Once Was, and the title kind of tells you all the words, all you need to know. But it's very like heavy, all the lyrics and the big orchestral, everything was like, you know, 10,000 pounds.

And this one is like way more light. It's kind of like back to like some of the stuff, like replacements and some of the stuff I like, like, you know, growing up, it's a little more just like, I guess like, I don't know if punk is the right word, but it's like a little just more, I don't know, straightforward, easy going. Nothing too, nothing too complex happening.

Danceable. Yeah, it's a dance album. Yeah, finally, bright eyes that you can dance to. Well, Connor, thank you so much for coming over here and spending the afternoon with me. I really enjoyed talking to you, Andy. Thank you so much. Thank you. I did, too. I enjoyed talking to you.

And I hope you guys did, because otherwise, what the fuck did you just do for the last hour? You're wasting your life. Go out and see some sunshine. Yeah, go do some MDMA. Yeah, go do some MDMA! What are you waiting around for? Go do some MDMA and then touch the grass

and really feel the grass. And watch that sunset that apparently Andy's never seen in his life. I've seen it, but I've never felt it. You just go to Beverly early. I do, I do. I'm a vampire. No, wait, I'm the opposite of vampire, whatever that is. All right, well, anyway, thanks for tuning in. Goodbye. See you next week. The Three Questions with Andy Richter is a Team Coco production. It is produced by Sean Daugherty and engineered by Rich Garcia.

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Let us know in the review section. Can't you tell my love's a-growing? Can't you feel it ain't a-showin'? Oh, you must be a-knowin'. I've got a big, big love... This has been a Team Coco production. Oh, you must be a knowin' I've got a big, big love