The Tim Dillon Show - 312 - Private Prison Penthouse
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon show. We are here. Thank you everybody for watching the special and your
Kind words trended on Netflix for about a week. Maybe still trending don't know one of the top
Search things on that platform. We really appreciate that as well as you know, Tom Segura and Joe Rogan having me on to
Hang out promote that with them had fun discussions with
Both of those gentlemen and Christina P. We did a crazy live stream at your mom's house
And then we did Joe the next day while we were down in Texas and now we are back
Here in Los Angeles and
Really excited a lot of people really
Feedback is very positive. So we're happy about that and you know, it's you know, it's good to
To have it out there and done and then you know, we are moving on
to other things too many other things
Books and films and all kinds of stuff that is
Not in the immediate future, but hopefully in the not too distant future. We are working on a lot of stuff
There's a I sent this article to Ben this was
really strange and
You know, usually when people sue I always go like, you know, do you really need to sue because we're such a litigious
Country every billboard is like sue them. There was a billboard when I was growing up
Yeah, my dad used to pass on the highway. It was called 1-800 sue them
And that was the billboard and it was about
You know your ability to sue anyone for any reason at all
That's the type of country that
You know, we have we have a country where the legal system, you know, basically exists as a
You know a place for personal vendetta's
for get rich quick schemes
As a way to arbitrate
any and all
Disagreements
But then there are things where you go, okay, I get it. I
Get it now whether you're a fan of lawsuits or not to handle problems
There are certain stories where I go. Oh, I could see that I
Can see a lawsuit there
That makes sense to me
Black mom sues LA unified
Which I believe is a school district
Over a cotton picking project at elementary school
Yep, this is gonna be one of the lawsuits that I can understand a
Black parent filed a civil rights lawsuit last week against the Los Angeles
Unified school district and the board of education saying that a cotton field was set up at an elementary school in 2017
That was intended to teach students about the experiences of slaves
We're trying to pit set a 14-year-old daughter who's referred to as SW in the lawsuit experience emotional distress as
Result of the project at Laurel span school that her social justice teacher
Said was to help students quote
gain a real-life experience as
To what African-American slaves had endured. Oh
boy
the suit also names the school's then principal and
Social justice teachers defendants
Since the project Laurel span school was closed and a new school Laurel cinematic arts creative tech magnet
Was created in its place?
She said in September of 2017 her daughter who used to
Vibrantly share her day with her mother
Became very quiet and reserved
And you imagine this one day as pits
Was dropping off her daughter on campus. She saw a cotton field in front of the school and
Called the office to speak with the school's principal Amy Diaz
Was unavailable
Pit spoke with the assistant principal who explained that her daughter's class was reading Frederick Douglass's autobiography
And that the cotton field was created so students could have a quote real-life
experience of slavery
well
They had a whole big thing this was right over in West Hollywood, of course, of course it was
that a whole big thing and
So she didn't have to pick the cotton her daughter
But she had to watch other students complete the project while she was while she cared for other crops in the garden
I mean God
God God help us
So I like they say well, we're teaching the white kids about
what happened
With slaves so they're gonna have to pick the cotton, but why don't you go tend to some okra?
or some other vegetables in a garden they have to have
They are making a black girl tend to vegetables in a garden
While watching white people do the cotton thing and this is a good idea. This was someone's idea of a good idea
And now there's a lawsuit
And there's a lawsuit now I
Don't know how much emotional distress the daughter experienced. I imagine it's something
But a jury will decide
But again, it's one of those things where I go
of all of the things
That people soo over
If your daughter came to you and said I be a black daughter came to you and said I
Today at school they did a project where we picked cotton
To learn about the experiences of slaves. I
Can imagine that you would be upset about that
That would not go over
big
so there is a lawsuit and
We don't know what'll happen
We are
Waiting here
With bated breath
We don't know
Sad
They tried to change the name of the school. They tried to but this is gonna follow them. It's gonna
There's no getting around this
The problem with this is when people when people start to use their imagination and
They're trying to be good people
They tend to do the most horrific things that have ever been done
This is not uncommon
When people are trying to be good people and they don't know how to be and
they think they can
flip a switch and
understand something or
Be a quote part of the solution
On the right side of history
whatever it is and
And they start using their
Imagination they start being creative about how to do that
The horror is unending it's a terror will be unleashed
They will do things
That they think are genuinely good
Until
People see them and go what the fuck is this? I mean they will literally I
Mean the idea that they had a cotton
Field in front of the school
Like they had to this was not an accident this was planned it
happened
With the full knowledge of many many people it had to sign off ago. This is a good idea
Let's get the kids out there. Let's get them picking cotton
That then they'll understand what the slaves went through if they have to pick cotton in front of the school
Insane
But this is what happens when you have people
That are going like how can we creatively show children what slavery was like
Instead of worrying about
Other things you go. How can we let's put our heads together? How can we recreate slavery today?
for the kids
No, no, no, I know I know we got the math test
but
We want them to feel
The lashes on their back and the calluses on their hands
We want to recreate
Chattel slavery today at school
How can we recreate settler colonialism after lunch
Yeah, that's a bad idea
This is a bad idea. This is not a good idea. This is the opposite of that
But this is not surprising. I know some people that would do something like this thinking that it is good
You know
No, we built a gas chamber in the gymnasium
To teach the kids about
What do you mean you're upset?
What are you upset about?
How are they gonna know
What the Holocaust was like if we didn't build a gas chamber in the gymnasium
We wanted to give the kids. Yes. Well, some of the kids got to be little Nazis and
Then some of them got to be Jewish people. It's a it's just because they're becoming better people
What is wrong?
It's absurd, but this is the this is what happens. So
Go get the money make them cough up
Some money I'm gonna talk about
The condominium in LA right now that's on the market for 50 million dollars. Don't you want to spend?
50 million dollars to own a condo in West Hollywood
Hollywood Google West Hollywood and hit news
West Hollywood
Okay, let's see here first article member of
Rappers on Tyra's shot ends up in West Hollywood before dying at hospital
Three sought in fatal shooting at gas station near Beverly Center
Boy
I
West Hollywood is a
Problem yeah, not good
For crime
If you Google West Hollywood
crime
You can you can just read some of the stories about things that are
Going on
There's not good two weeks ago. The crime is risen by 38%
Man shot near we hoe gun owner thwarts home invasion
Go to the sheriff's weekly crime report. Okay
See what's going on a
Assault
Grand theft grand theft residential burglary strong strong arm robbery strong arm robbery
strong arm robbery
Grand theft burglary robbery
Vehicle burglary vehicle burglary vehicle burglary other weapon. Well, how about 50?
million dollars
To live in the penthouse
Of a new building a new because in Los Angeles now they're trying to introduce this concept of vertical living
Because people you know what's happening Los Angeles has always been the home of the single family house
with your yard and maybe your pool and
Your dogs and kitties running around and the husband tinkering with the car and
You're in the back. Oh, you know looking at the lemon tree or the orange tree
Idealic lovely. Yes
But now people are coming in the windows. They're climbing over the fences. They're hanging out in the yard
Maybe a bit of rape. They say who knows and they're killing
So what they're trying to do is they're introducing vertical living because people say good news
We'll make condo buildings and we'll charge
Millions and millions of dollars for these condos and we'll put guards outside of them
So the people that want to rape and kill you can't get in and
Will put all of the things you'd want all the finishes the bathrooms and the kitchens and the marble and the wood and the pine and the
Oak in the
Travertine marble and the this and that and you get it all and it's all behind guard gates guards and gates and guards and gates and gates and
guards and guards and it's going to be like the
The castle from the Wizard of Oz with the flying monkeys
And we'll have an army of flying monkeys if anyone comes near us and we'll have a moat and we'll have alligators in the moat and
If you have the little key fob, you can get in you get right through the alligators say well
How do you do and they let you in it's not a big deal 50 million is the penthouse
Apartment this article says a special kind of crazy in LA a 50 million dollar condo in the land of homeless tents
There's something funny about Los Angeles the idea that it has the biggest homeless population in the world and all the hit shows about LA or about real estate
It's all about high-end real estate and everybody
is living in a you know like a
cooler
everybody's looking like a Coleman cooler and
Nobody is seeing any of the irony in that in that it is the selling sunsets and the million dollar listings and the Beverly
And this is there's more shows so many shows all about
The privilege of selling real estate or buying it in Los Angeles, California, and they're trying to sling a
50 million
Dollar condo in Los Angeles
Wow
I mean big time and
You can from your condo that is 50 million
Look outside and you will see
People who are filthy dirty people
From head to toe soot lesions
Maybe they look like lepers
Pushing
Shopping carts full of their belongings in the hot summer
And
Maybe people like that that some people might like that
That might be a benefit
But that is a potential view from a 50 million dollar condo in that area
You might I
Mean imagine paying 50 million dollars for a condo and then outside you're staring and you're just watching
Society unravel in front of you
Interesting
Get up the video of these realtors talking when the
Fire alarms are going off and the police are going off. This is a very very funny thing a bunch of the top real estate agents in
Los Angeles, California are gathered together to talk about
How great it is to live in Los Angeles and the pride of it and the weather
How great it is
So here listen to this
Whatever I think a lot of New Yorkers are coming for the summer with the intention of maybe staying but they all want to rent first
That's what I listen to the background
So let's let's I have one for the month of August. I have one left unless on
I always forget the name of us floors
Josh you're saying you can just hear in the background one friend
police sirens and fire trucks as the city burns
To address the police
For those who are tuning in just now you're with the real deal TRD talks live we're with some of LA's top brokers
Talking about the market and the changes since COVID
Great year this one must have come out in January February and they had you know
They rank they sort of rank LA against the other alpha cities New York London, Miami, etc
Investment lifestyle except many other many tears LA was sixth or seventh in sort of the running compared to some of these cities
What's your what's your sort of unscientific take on where it could be now after all there's gonna be reversal because if you look at the
Cities above LA that on the night Frank chart. Yeah, they're all high-rise cities
And you have Hong Kong
Above LA which is the dentist everyone. Yeah, but with the political upheaval going on there
Prices are going to go down and people are going to leave they're not going to give up their freedom
So Los Angeles because of horizontal living and the incredible weather. I was surprised to see
Livability that Los Angeles was down in the 10 or 12. Maybe traffic. Well traffic
But if you have to work and live in a big city, there's no place like Los Angeles
snow
the air is
Relatively clear
Living where traffic isn't an impediment you're not driving from Covina to get to your office
Sure, I'm sorry city
Department
Yeah, so they're all they're all mentally ill so they're all see see they're all sick and
To to live here to do that job and God bless them, but they have to be ill so they're sitting there
Telling everybody what a great city it is and how the weather is amazing and you can't live anywhere else
How could you live anywhere else and in the background? It is the sounds of hell
just sirens and
fire trucks and cops
Responding to you know, I don't know some woman who lit her children on fire or you know
Two homeless people who are eating each other in the street like but they all got a smile and it's you got to keep it light
Keep it. Hey, keep it light. It's like a Saturday night live sketch if you know, that was a
thing you would laugh at but
This is so funny. You just got a hey keep it light
Keep it like what about our bow? What about our bully's response time?
Hey
And they know full they know full well what's going on here they know full well, but I get it they can't I
mean
Get that money
Um
So, I mean, I'm just saying if you have 50 million dollars and you want to buy a condo
There's no better place to do it right now than in West Hollywood, California
It's a great investment of 50 million dollars into a condominium. So you can do
Stand-up comedy
If you so choose you can go and tell people
What gets you going?
What is your problem so this judge that sold a bunch of children to
Former judges who sent kids to jail for kickbacks must pay more than 200 million
These are some evil fox. They were selling kids to jail to private prison
Are those kids were thought 200 million great question?
But u.s. District Judge Christopher Conner awarded 106 million in calm
Pensatori damages an hundred million impugnative damages to nearly 300 people in a long-running civil suit against the judges
Writing the platons are quote the tragic human casualties of a scandal of epic proportion in what came to be known as the kids for cash
scandal Mark Sivarela and another judge Michael Conahan shut down a country run
Juvenile detention center and accepted 2.8 million in illegal payments from the builder and co-owner of two for-profit lockups
Now if you remember any of this, this was the guys they were giving
draconian sentences very long sentences to kids because this is where
They were making their money
Sivarela ordered children as young as eight to detention many of them first-time offenders deemed delinquent for petty theft
Jay walking Jay walking
Truancy smoking on school grounds and other minor infractions these guys should be executed truly they should be put to death and killed
I mean this is insane the judge often ordered youths. He had found delinquent to be immediately shackled
handcuffed and taken away
Without giving them a chance to put up a defense or even say goodbye to their families
Should we have on the show a thing called point for Hassan piker?
And should we have like a little thing what is he what race is he I can look it up. Let's see. Is he a Turkish?
Hassan is
Is of Turkish descent it says so should we have a little Turkish delight the candy and when
Something very bad happens in the capitalist system because you we'd say point for Hassan piker
We get we put the little Turkish delight over there a little cube the little cube. I like don't you like that
It's not a candy that you like. Yeah, you got me in Australia. Yeah, I don't love it
But this is a point for him who did he did like a 71 minute reaction
Video to my Joe Rogan rant. Oh really? I think so. I don't know who knows
People I mean, it's you know the guy streams 38 hours a day. I mean, I get I'd be doing it, too
I'd be doing I'd be doing it to Tim Dillon needs pancakes. Let's react to that
But what does it say about the capitalist system?
It's unlikely the now adult victims will even see a fraction of the eye popping damages award
But a lawyer for the plaintiff said it's recognized a recognition of the enormity of the disgraced judges crimes
I mean the judges this is the evil of
People that pervert this system you should not have private for-profit
Prisons it's a bad idea
Now do they sponsor our show? I don't know
probably
But they're still not it's not a good idea to have private prisons
Where children as young as eight years old are going there for jaywalking
Isn't that crazy to you of the 280 people to 79 were under the age of 13?
79 of these kids were under the age of 13. That's horrible. And they were sentenced to these crazy
Long sentences, right?
How long I mean it would vary but I mean enough to really ruin your life
Look at this several of the childhood victims are part of the lawsuit when began in 2009 have since died from overdoses or suicide
Yeah
Can we just for a minute
Can we for a minute think about this from the judge's perspective? I
Said for one minute not forever, okay
Kids are pieces of shit
No, it's listen it's still these judges are bad. They should be executed really I
Mean they're evil
This is evil
This isn't saying kids for cash judge released from prison over virus concerns
Yeah, I missed this part of the article because of COVID they let him do what's it called?
I don't know it's called this released a home confinement with six years left on his sentence because of COVID
So he like what?
Someone I mean Jesus what happened to vigilante justice here
If that was my kid, I would kill these I would kill these judges
Mm-hmm. I'm not saying you should but I would
You know
Some of these parents might have been like take this kid and get it out of here. I
Got things to do
Man evil behavior from these guys when you're when you're talking about and by the way this isn't okay if people are older either
I'm not trying to do one of these things where I go. Oh with the guys 25 you can sell them
This is a bad idea and in fact
Fucking schools should start building private prisons
In the playgrounds to teach the kids about
Confinement in a for-profit institution and if I was a teacher and I should be we would have private prison
Simulations all the time where kids would be locked up and
We would explain to them why this happened. That seems like a good idea and I'm for it
These judges are horrible and hopefully they die
Yeah, I mean this is crazy
Have you you know a lot of like people like I know some people too
I don't know anyone that went to one of these private prisons. I don't know as a kid. I don't know anybody
My neighbor Jill once put a Pins petition on me person in need of supervision
And Jill lived next to me and my parents would sometimes be gone
And I was in the backyard with a friend of mine. We were smoking pot and I think we threatened her with a knife
But it was like a joke, but we look waved a night friend like we'll kill you
But it was like not you know what I mean
She called the police
I got a pin's petition person in need of supervision and I had to go to like family court to get that lifted or get that
removed so that was like CPS or CPS exactly child protective services and they
tried to put a
Pins petition on me and we had to go to my uncle and we went to court and we got that removed and I said I've been doing the
right things and
You know, I'm a good person
but this is a
This is a real problem if you do not have a
Family that can help you
And a judge like this sentences you to a situation like this
You will end up ODing or you will end up
Turning to drugs
And it's incredibly sad. So these guys are pieces of shit
Um
Point for Hassan piker
Do you measure Turkish delight and put it there? We'll stack them up
Who's what's the other side? What was there another side? Yeah when he's not right?
Okay, and then that's also Turkish delight. No, that would have to be in a like an America of food of my of my heritage
like a potato
So if he's wrong about something, we'll put a potato on one side of the scale
Hmm, I like that like a big scoop of mashed potatoes and will fulfill the desk. It is
It was correct. I
Of course, I don't get it. I you know, I just this is a egregious example of the horrors of the current system
I mean really can you find and by the way, I want to talk about this
This new season of Cobra Kai's insane what they're gonna do
Okay, no and I didn't know well, you don't know that you don't this is not okay
I have inside information here and I barely I barely want to discuss this because this is going to
Enraged people and I don't want to be the first one to talk about it Cobra Kai is a show on Netflix
About karate, right?
It comes from the karate kid, right? Yes, it's just it's in its fourth season. It's fourth season on
Netflix it is a
What would you call this a reboot or extension? It's a sequel to the original karate
It is a sequel to the original karate kid films
What they're doing is they have these dojos these warring dojos of
These martial arts groups kids they fight each other and they dislike each other, right?
Cobra Kai on Netflix. They're adding a dojo. This is true of all unhoused people in
Los Angeles homeless people who are forced to beat the shit out of
Each other for food and and the kids and the homeless people fight each other
There's a third dojo this season and it's all homeless people in Los Angeles and the kids go and fuck them up
The kids are like grabbing their fucking
Chopping carts and Threnders beat the shit out of them and then the homeless people learn
karate and
They come back and they fuck these kids up the homeless people learn the art because it's martial arts
they learn how to control themselves and
It is actually the pathway for many of them to get housing and to get sober
martial arts and
This is the whole idea is that martial arts is
Actually, what needs to happen with the homeless and then it is not
More funding or even more police or more enforcement
Literally, it is martial arts is what changes the changes the thing for these homeless people
And I just think that's a little weird personally that they would do this Cobra Kai on Netflix would do a whole
Season where you have a dojo of homeless people being forced to beat the living shit out of each other I
Mean to me it feels wrong
You know what it it feels tone deaf. Yes to me personally it feels
Tone deaf
To me personally
They teach the homeless people many of them who have like one of the one of the new characters is a guy with like Iraq war flashbacks
Okay, and they teach him
How to quiet his mind and Michael Arusa grabs him and goes quiet your mind
He's like, you don't know the things I've done in Fallujah
The things I did for this guy and he's like quiet your mind and beat the shit out of that kid
And now you have just homeless
homeless people learning karate
Because that's really and you know in all seriousness
It's probably the reason that many of them are homeless is that they don't have discipline and
Actually in Cobra Kai's defense
Martial arts is like a great organizing principle of how to like structure your life
so like it's maybe not the worst idea to
Give homeless people free karate lessons and let them join
The dojo
There are certainly worse ideas that I've heard yeah, especially for that show I think
Yeah, that show took a shit around season three. Yeah, and it's over now. Mm-hmm. It's all over
You know
The kids on Stranger Things are like 38 years old
They're like divorced twice
You're gonna bump into one of those kids in LA like three years, so you're like I'm divorced, bro
Like Finn Wolford's gonna have like a divorce in like five years and he's gonna be like sitting there
Like drinking coffee in a cafe like smoking cigarettes staring at the ground
And you're gonna be like hey, what's going on Finn you give it like hey, yeah, what?
What's going on? He's like yeah, I'm fucking divorced
I can't work
Cuz I'm 40 and I still look like a freak
I'm kidding. You know Rosebud Baker a comedian just did some movie that he directed. Oh really? Yeah, I don't know which one
I'll show it on screen. I'm just curious. We're not trying to give these people publicity
They're doing enough on their own really frankly, you know who who helps me does anyone help me by the way
Is it does anyone help me or do I have to keep pumping everyone else?
Can anyone help me please
Yeah, his first feature film it's called what's it called well, I think that's what he's
To write and direct new horror comedy film it says here and yeah, why am I why am I not in it?
Why am I not in it?
Am I not funny nice? Am I not horrible?
His directorial debut what's it about?
Let's see. Oh
Write and direct a new horror comedy it's called hell of a summer
Plot details and storylines are being kept hush-hush, and it's unclear when the film is slated. What eaters what?
Why can't we know what it is?
hell of a summer is
It about when we put my mother in a home
These things always suck horror comedies always bad
Yeah, always one cabin in the woods. What else I was gonna say army of darkness
Okay, there's some things that are the shawna the dead
Things like that. Oh, yeah, that's I love that actually
but
What we just keep naving no no you're you're no you're right. It's like three
Ends it a fan of hard. I'm a creator of it. We have very different
They're very different opinions true. We have very different opinions on things. I am a creator of art
Ben is like a fan boy. Mm-hmm, so we have different we have different
Reactions, but he did direct a Netflix special and by the way, I
Don't think people asked him understand how difficult it is to direct a Netflix special because you stand up comedy special
Because you have to point the cameras at the stage
It is one of the hardest things that anyone has ever done
Which is why every member of Ben's family has tagged him 95 times in the thing that says directed by Ben Avery
because they're so proud of him and
They have a reason to be proud of him because the people that shot the special work for Louie
CK and Joe Rogan
This group of people so they were incredibly new at this. They were novices
They'd only done what four specials with Joe and fought for with Louie or something
They hadn't done a lot
So Ben made sure that they all pointed the cameras in the direction of the stage and
not I don't know the lobby of the theater or
someone else
How was it working with it? What were the what were the real challenges of the oh?
The challenges getting the cameras at this to face the stage well
First of all, I was thwarted immediately because I tried to leave all the lens caps on the cameras
Wow shooting because I was actually trying to sabotage the whole but no let's think about it your family's incredibly proud of you about this and
They're very proud and
Do they do they understand that they any of them could have done this
Let do your brothers and mother understand that they too could have done this thing that you did
Should we say they are also executive producers and by the way?
Why is my fat agent on it that I did not know why is he why special thanks to him I?
Think well he got me the meeting with Brady
So he set up a zoom meeting with Brady did he put himself
Did he put himself as special thanks?
Cuz no one put him. Oh, no, I think it's Sam talent
Wendy who runs comp and I think it might be Justin. I know it is but who put him
No, I mean literally who put him I have no idea a special thanks who put him
I don't know man. I put Sam talent and Wendy who put him once it got into Netflix hands someone could have just sent them a note
Well, what does it mean?
Well, it's just a little bit absurd and insane
Then my agent
Who sat there through the first show that was unusable eating spaghetti or whatever he was doing
Has put himself as a special thanks
You know who no one thanked me
Everybody else got thanked the agent you
But it was different it is difficult it is not it's not an easy thing to do to point cameras at a stage
It is very difficult and I'm very happy that Ben did it as well as he did it was it it was tough and trying
But we appreciate that and we are very very very grateful to him a
genius of
a man who was able to
Point a camera
At me for an hour. It's like this show. It's exactly. Well, this show is more difficult occasionally. You look something up a
little harder, right
But it was you know, that was that was pretty big
And you take they've removed him. I don't know what's what why they're removing him
They're just removing people now. They don't like it seems
Yeah, and they never give a clear cut here. They never give a reason. I mean by the way, I've heard a lot of what he
Has said and I know some of it gets people going but
You know some of what he says that I've heard
Isn't that crazy
What is this misogyny is a hateful ideology that is not tolerated on tiktok?
What that's not true
Um
Yeah, I just they seem like they're removing people
with whom
they have
underlying
Ideological differences and they're just trying to figure out how to get rid of them and
again, I'm not
Joining hustlers university. I won't be signing up
But I don't think you should this guy should be removed
I don't you know
What is like do they even tell anyone why
Well, they just say you're misogynist, but then they don't like the the thing is they don't link you to the specific thing
It wasn't your misogynist a month ago when he was on to like this is what I don't understand. Hmm. What what what's changed?
Why can't a misogynist talk?
I don't understand
He thinks let's say he thinks men are better than women. Let's say he has that belief
I mean, I don't know. It can't should he not be able to say anything
You know
I I'm just I'm unmoved
People will counter his belief with their own beliefs some of them will be quite persuasive
You know
I just don't understand
What now it's like misogyny
Is it grounds? Yeah, and now getting kicked off and apparently he's been booted from twitter as of 2017 because he tweeted now
Here's a specific one right he tweeted that women who are sexually assaulted bear some responsibility
I don't know the context of that post but or what made him think it but
I think if you look at his larger quote his larger context
He said something to the extent that if you go out and get drunk and go home the guy and get into his bed and he does a
Wrong thing
You have to analyze some of your behavior. Now by the way, you could be offended by that
It's absolutely appropriate to be offended by that and say I I think that he's justifying
Or excusing
Rape
but
I also don't think by the way
That that is a crazy beyond the pale opinion that is not held by lots of people and what I mean by that is this
There are a lot of reasonable rational people out there that think that yes, men are violent
Certainly when you add alcohol to the mix and they're strangers and it doesn't justify their behavior at all
But the idea that a woman doesn't have to take extra care to protect herself
In our society is probably
Naive to believe that so I don't you know, I again, I just think that like
They want a villain
And he may want to be the villain. I don't know. I think they're casting him in the role as the villain
And maybe he wants to be that role
I don't know him
but if if I look at the
Examples I'm being given here
I'm not seeing anything sufficient to remove this guy
From social media. Yeah
completely
I don't see any reason for that
And again, no one's gonna care what I say, right?
But I did just speak on the Joe Rogan show and I said the most um
I said the most meaningful thing that's ever been said
On his show, uh, that that rant I had was the most
Articulate meaningful thing that's ever been said in the history of the world
To be honest it was
Do you believe there was anything that's ever been said that's better than that?
Uh
Sermon on the mount
What's the sermon on the mount?
I think it's uh, it's that one Jesus did where he was like
We should all like be nice to each other and stuff. Yeah had that workout like I'm like
Like it's like I'm talking about shit. That's real
It's gonna actually happen
You're talking about fairy tales
Um
Yeah, I just listen
I'm not saying that women are should be blamed for rape. I'm saying that
Someone should be allowed to offer an opinion on a controversial
situation
He's in one video he demonstrates how he would attack a female partner if she ever accused him of cheating
Quote it's bang out the machete boom in her face and grip her by the neck shut up bitch
Um
It's bang out the machete boom in the face and grip her by the neck shut up bitch
Um, what's he doing there cutting your head off?
Uh, he's just describing uh, how he would attack a female partner if she ever uh accused him of cheating
And he goes it's bang out the machete boom in her face and grip her by the neck
Like you got to threaten her so you got it right up next to her
Well, but if my whole thing is if he didn't cheat
Mm-hmm, and she's accusing him of cheating. How's he supposed to respond?
I'm I'm confused
Um, maybe it's in maybe it's in a better context here. Should we play this? Maybe it'll make sense. Yes
A man can only cheat if he loves someone else
If I have a woman who I truly love and I go out and fuck and I come back to her and I don't care about her
And I only love my girl. That's not cheating. That's exercise if she even talks to it's very funny
By the way, that's incredibly funny. Yeah, it's not that bad
Well, you know listen man
People are gonna this is what's gonna happen
um
The bigger you get the more of a target you become and listen, I'm not saying andretate is
You know, I don't think he should be the go-to for I think young guys listening to him probably
Will get some bad ideas in their head
But there's young people often have bad ideas in their head and good ideas in their head
And they sort them out as they get older. This is not new
None of this is new. I had bad ideas in my head when I grew up and you know who they were from my parents
You know now there's people on the internet that can influence people for sure
But there's a lot of other people that can influence you too positively negatively
I don't see any rule the ruling is
gavel put him back on social media. Please. I don't see any reason
Holding the machete to someone's neck if that's a problem. Well, I don't know get me out of here
He didn't do it. He said it
Yeah, I'll put a machete to someone's I mean that's hypothetically speaking. He would do such a thing if he said if right
acts then why
If I'm accused of cheating I'll use the machete
But he's not really gonna do it
It's probably a goof
It's a joke. I don't know
There's gonna be a villain all the time
We're a society and you make a lot of money being the villain by the way
people like villainizing you and um
Around time the uk police were investigating abuse tate is understood of left uk for romania and one video explaining his reasons
For the movie suggested it was because it'd be easier to evade rape charges
He goes this is called for probably 40 percent of the reason
I'm not a rapist, but I like the idea of just being able to do what I want. I like being free
Well, but does that mean he's raping people it technically no
He's saying he likes the idea of having it as an option because you could read that two ways
He goes, listen, I'm not a rapist. I like the idea of being able to do what I want. I like the idea
of doing that I'm what I'm free so I think
There's a way to interpret that where he's going listen. I'm not like a sicko
I just don't want to be uh, I don't want to live in a nanny state
But I didn't know
You know what I mean? Like I think he's
You
Then in april the brothers mansion was raided by police following a tip off from the u.s. Embassy that a 20-year-old
Or a 21-year-old american woman was being held against her will
Tates were taken in for questioning before being released and denying wrongdoing the romanian authorities said last week that the investigation
Later expanded to cover human trafficking and rape allegations was ongoing
Yeah, I mean
I don't know about any of this. He just had a cam house where he would like there was like cam girls and stuff
I mean, what are you gonna do?
I mean, you know
My problem is when you take somebody off social media, they can't respond to any of this right
This is the big problem if you destroy people's ability to respond
You can say stuff about them
And this is a Gavin McGinnis point actually that I'm making here
Many years ago when I when I knew Gavin
Um, who he is also controversial
um
but
Gavin
Said yeah, they kicked me off all these things and I couldn't respond
So people could say anything about me. They could say I'm a nazi. I'm this I'm that
And I did not have any
Place to respond to what was being said about me
So I no matter what you think about Gavin that that is a
valid
Argument that if you kick somebody off and you call them names
Maybe they're true. Maybe they're not but that person now has no recourse
To talk back
And then you can kind of villainize them
And create this character that they may or may not have been
And
This seems to be
The mo of a lot of these companies. This is what it seems to be it does not seem to be
Changing and I do believe this ultimately
Will lead to a
Kind of a
Schism
Google schism and tell everyone what it means
This is going to lead to a schism
It is a split or decision between strongly opposed sections or parties caused by differences in opinion or belief
That's correct. But this is what it means
What it means is that
I believe you're going to see I think rumbles one of the first
Attempts at this with a lot of
People on it. You're going to just further see
Uh people
Retreating into
Their corners here you think you think tate will go to rumble
I get he could be a rumble guy. I could see that. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure or uh
As a pickup artist guy those guys usually have their own
Websites he could go on like a pickup artist forum and and probably destroy behind his own paywall though, right?
Listen, I don't know what he's doing. I'm sure the courses he teaches are not
Uh going to lead you to be a billionaire, but I think when you just take somebody off all of social media
Uh, it is you know, there has to be some
There has to be an intertates hustlers university affiliate program shut down following meta ban
This guy got so big so quick. Yeah, they put a stop to that
Yeah, and again, I don't know much about him. So I mean, it's very possible that he's not a good guy
But there's a lot of people that aren't a good guy, right?
It's also possible. He's misunderstood or whatever and you know, I don't I don't care
You know, whether people are good or bad to me is such a boring and it's like
It's like what is the greater? What is the what is the greater?
threat
this guy
Or companies deciding whether or not you can speak
It's like is this a guy
this like
Pick a bar this guy with the university
The biggest threat. Is he a bigger threat?
Then the collusion of government and big tech
This big blob of power that's completely unaccountable that can shut you off at any time is that
Not dangerous at all. Does that not merit a discussion?
And we're talking about whether we're a Romanian guy got into fight with his girlfriend in 2017
Because he's got he's hot on the internet for three months
This is this is the thing
He must be vanquished now
Before what he becomes the president
I'm confused
as always
again
that defending, you know
The the the forest for the trees, which is something that no one can see and people choose not to
um
If fathers
Cannot it cannot go back to talking to their sons
We're all doomed
Doesn't matter if it's Andrew Tate or whoever if if people cannot
Go back to educating their children
About how to act and behave
Then I I don't know what hope there is really
So this guy can be his kind of scapegoat and he's got some wacky ideas, but at the end of the day
You know
I think it's you know, you got to look at really
What is the reason
For his popularity
What is the reason for the popularity of a lot of people?
Is it because we do live in a world
Where many manifestations of traditional masculinity are kind of bemoaned and demonized
and called toxic
and that
dudes are trying to figure out and navigate
A new landscape and sometimes it just feels good if somebody goes hey fuck it
Fuck it
I'm going to say egregious crazy shit
Because the new world
Is exhausting
Tiring
And there's nothing in it for you. They're building a world
where
If you're a straight white guy or any straight guy really
um
You're constantly told that you inherently
Your nature
Is a danger and a problem
and
There's somebody who comes along and goes no, it's not you're actually fine. You're okay and
That's popular. Well, of course, it's going to be pop. Why wouldn't it be popular?
No, yes, does it go too far and does he say crazy shit? I'm sure it's the internet
But well, why is it why is it getting an audience? Why is it?
Gaining traction because no one is speaking to these young kids young men
Young dudes, they're they're not being served by anybody
Speaking to them
Groups of people that are being championed
Or being included in a discussion or being praised
Do not include a lot of these young dudes who have no idea
Where they fit into society
so
It's the job of their fathers or the job of their families communities
But maybe all that shit's not working, right? Maybe it's not happening
Enter Andrew Tate enter whoever and
You know, some of what he said I think that I've heard has been pretty good a six-stop wanting figure figure yourself
Out there are ways that you can
Be self-reliant
productive
You know, this doesn't mean that these are all
Going to work
But I do think some of it is positive for sure
Um, and I've always had a problem when everybody goes. Yeah, we're just going to delete
People and then everyone goes good and then they
Enjoy the deplatforming of their enemies and then when it happens to them, they don't uh
They don't make the connection
They feel they feel to make the
Connection
Yeah
But I don't know I would not
I don't know if I'd be buying his course
I don't really I don't know how many people's course I would buy
What is his course at hustlers universe is it like lesson one how to choke a bitch out with a machete
I don't know
It's supposed to be like helps you with investing. I'll but I'll join it if it's about the machete
Uh, thanks for all the uh positive feedback with uh, Ben's
directorial debut
Tindallacomedy.com for any live dates if we put them up
We have a merch drop. When's that coming? You've handled that too. When's that coming?
Uh, well, didn't you say you want to move? Is your family going to do that? Are they going to go? Congrats on the merch, Ben
And emailed the designer who did the merch
You think we'll have like seven of those things
Congrats to
Ben he did he emailed the merch guy
Email the merch guy
Congrats. Yay
So when do you think the it comes out like january?
Like where are you saying like october 1st?
I would like it to come out in late september october. Do you think that's possible? Very possible. Yeah
Ben's angry with me because we
We ended up recording the episode late
So he harbors a lot of resentments and rage is a very rageful and angry person
But that anger only destroys him. It has absolutely no impact on me
You understand? Yeah, it's not i'm a sober person. I don't have resentments ben
White knuckles his sobriety and has resentments and rage issues and anger
But I don't have those things. Yep
Every every second you spend hating is like stealing a precious jewel from yourself
That's right. You know what resentments are it's hating someone while they're out dancing
They're unaffected
So i'm unaffected by your hatred of me
And so you've been very hateful all day. You don't you don't feel like that
I thought I've been like funny and fun. You've been very sloth like and hateful
Yes, you've been very tight. You've been like spaced out and kind of out of it
And uh, you know
It's just the behavior
Just the behavior it's not my
It's not my fault
It's not my fault
Right
What's not your fault?
Whatever you are going through. I don't think i'm going going through anything. Okay
I'm just i'm just uh
You're tired. No, i'm just i'm not even tired. I'm just chilling I got i'll be up till five
Why will you be up till five get the episode out?
You're like the slaves on the plantation outside of that school picking the cotton
You want to sing an old slave song together? Oh, uh, how about um, what's that one? I don't know really low voice
Well, that's not a slave song. It's old man river. That's a slave song. No, he's just on a he's on a he's on a
river boat
But is he like I don't pick cotton. Oh, yeah, he does say that
Yeah
Well, anyway, I do not you know, it is that yeah, I guess it's true
Do you have anything else to plug here? Well, can you get them excited about the merch? You keep downplaying the merch
You're like, oh, it won't be it's gonna be good. It'll be fine. I came up with uh, one of the designs for it
What is your design that you came up with?
Off one the alpha, okay
I chose the typeface and uh, yeah
I came up with the design for the knife fight. Well, don't tell him
Don't tell him surprise. It's supposed to be a surprise
No, what's it supposed to know? I came up with a fake business
You came up with the
Enron logo in the um
But I came up with the actual fake business
But I I edited the podcast that you did that went out. That's correct
And I could have like the camera could have out of focus the whole time. Maybe I could have forget to hit record
It was lost to the sands of time
That's right, but you didn't do it. I'm sure you'll do that more and more often
As it says as you are
As you try to kill me
Which is fine. Stop imitating joe. It's so wrong of you
Um
We delusional it's 103 a.m. We've got three more hours to go here
Unless I put it out tomorrow at six because I wonder if it'll mess us up in the algorithm to put it out so early
When are you gonna put it out?
I'm thinking maybe tomorrow at six since it's so late if we put it out
No one's gonna be up. No one's gonna be watching it and then it's just gonna get yeah, put it out tomorrow at six
Yeah, that makes sense
Oh, I forgot it's saturday
Yeah
what
Can you play alcofina doing the black set from yeah, I just can't play the uh video
Yeah, I'll just do the audio and do the audio. Yeah. Yeah
I'll give you the black
set
Oh, there's like compilations if we're doing this
Oh, that's amazing black sent compilation
Yeah, I just won't play uh
We just leave with this because I think it's funny
Okay, and I don't know why anyone's mad at it and I actually think it's I like this
I think it's fun
I
Sorry about Danny
This is the ocean age recruitment scene. Oh, I gotta slide through this now
She came back though. She like she like oh here we go
money, okay, really?
free card monty, okay
saw the queen live your dream, but don't sleep don't sleep
So she might disappear by that
I like it. That's crazy to me. She like she liked you. All right. Let's hit it anywhere
She said let's hit an n word
I like it. I think it's good. I think it's fun
Now by the way, is that Andrew Tate's fault?
Is that Andrew Tate's fault?
Is there a way to blame that on Andrew Tate too?
Tim Dillon comedy if you uh, Tim Tate Dillon di llo went on instagram twitter
Real hero netflix special. Thank you. We will see you soon. Good night. Goodbye