The Tim Dillon Show - 422 - The Joe Rogan Experience

Episode Date: December 21, 2024

Tim sits down with Joe Rogan about Tim's special at the Comedy Mothership, drones, China, Biden, the Middle East, blackmail, the Costco family, the United Healthcare CEO, autonomous driving, pardons and the last manager at Blockbuster. American Royalty Tour 🎟 https://punchup.live/TimDillon SPONSORS: Helix Sleep Go to HelixSleep.com/TimD for 20% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows with code: HELIXPARTNER20. Hims Go to Hims.com/TIM for your personalized ED treatment options. Aura Frames AuraFrames.com to get $35 off plus free shipping on their best-selling frame. Go To AuraFrames.com & Use code: TIM. ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wo... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timjdillon/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/TimJDillon Listen on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/2gRd1wo... #TheTimDillonShow Merch:  https://store.timdilloncomedy.com/ For every $400,000 we gross in revenue, we are donating five dollars to end homelessness in Los Angeles. We are challenging other creators to do the same. #TimGivesBack

We're up. Thank you for doing this. My pleasure. Do you want to sit here? No. No, it's your show though Well, but that's not what we do on YouTube. We call it. We say the Joe Rogan experience and people click. Ah Don't sue good move. I want to don't sue. Thank you I've never seen thank you for letting me shoot the special at the mothership was amazing. Thank you for saving it Thank you for doing it. Well, let's talk about it Yeah, when we got there Someone it's generally some executive type person decided to put lamps on every table and light the room up and I got there I was like, oh no, this is terrible and there was like a tension in the air that you could feel

It was the brightest I had ever seen the club. Yeah, it was weird. I could see earrings Yeah, you could see everything everything you could see zits So many of the zits you you could see their complexion and then on so Wednesday the early show We're shooting Wednesday Thursday the early show Wednesday was tough It was tough people well, it was no tense. They were having fun, but you were doing really well, but you're opening acts We're struggling They were having fun, but you were doing really well, but you're opening acts or struggling Because it was a feeling when you got there when I walked in I was like Jesus Christ This feels like a fucking like a board meeting. Yeah, you know I mean it felt like a conference hall felt weird

Was weird and everybody seemed like a little off put by it. Yeah, everyone the audience was tense They were tense, but you went as soon as you started fucking around with the audience and going into them They got loose. They got loose a little bit, but it's like it's funny. It's like when you shoot a special You know you do comedy all the time, and then you go out and you shoot a special and you go Okay, I've done this a million times It's gone great, and it'll go great now, and we'll just get it on film and then you go out and it's like go great now and we'll just get it on film." And then you go out and it's like... And I'm like embarrassed because you're there. And in my head I'm like, I hope he left.

Because you're all excited and you're like, I'm excited, I'm coming to see the special. I'm excited. And I'm like... Well, thank God I came. I mean, I'm up there and I'm like doing bits and the audience is just staring at me And I go well This is good, and then but afterwards you corrected it and said you gotta make it like a comedy club Well to those guys credit. Yeah, they all did exactly what I said, which is beautiful. They didn't push back at all They know they were smart. Yeah, they had so much work that they put into making things interesting. They lit the walls weird Yeah, they did all this stuff I said you don't you got to understand all this stuff makes people self-conscious the more they can see themselves and where they can see

Other people yeah, the more they're self-conscious the more they won't laugh and Tim's act is fucked up Right like you have to yeah, you have to cut loose on some jokes that in you know polite company You could laugh at that's right. You would turn your head away from and what was what was a mind fuck is that I was here a month ago And I did six shows and they're like the best shows we've ever done you like this is a like I'll film why wouldn't we film it here right right and we filmed it at the store, and we didn't get the coverage I had a good set, but the coverage wasn't there. Yeah, I heard about that. And it wasn't. Which doesn't make any sense.

It's not ideal. It doesn't make any sense. It's not good. That's not a giant room. It's not like you're doing a coliseum. It was not good. It's always good when you think you're gonna get it. And, cause the store, you know, ILA is weird.

You have people that are sitting there in like ironic cowboy hats. They have their hot influencer girlfriends. It's weird. It's weird. It's not always great. Sometimes it's amazing. But we got out of four shows in LA,

we got one really great show and Gabby Reese was there. Oh, I love her. Sitting in the front row. She's the best. Oh, that's awesome. She's the best. And I'm like, all right, so that's good, right? We got it.

And everyone's like, we got it. And then we get the footage back. We don't got it Do you have anything you use for clips maybe yeah probably yeah, that's what I was thinking about the first show Wednesday Yeah, like there's a lot of clips in there. You were fucking around with the crowd was very funny. Yeah Yeah, yeah, no no for sure this clips, but like the one we got at the store The guy who did it's good guys a a nice guy and he's a talented guy, but he just made some choices where he was like far out. He wasn't like, we didn't have a ton of closeups.

And that was what he, cause here's the thing, they have a vision too, the people that shoot it. And I don't talk to any of them and figure out anything. Oh, you have to do that. I should, now I've really learned. I just showed up. Yeah, I noticed I Don't even like like I'm bad at that part of it where I'm like I don't do like the strategy meeting and go

What are we right? I just figure it's like you have some other shapes great club. You got a camera. Yeah, there's a stage Don't don't go too crazy with the design and that's the problem was yeah They went really crazy with changing the atmosphere. Yeah, they wanted to, you know, which probably works for some things, but it's not good for stand up. And it's definitely not good for your kind of stand up. No, you know, your kind of stand up demands darkness, preferably very dark where no one can even see each other or me. Yeah, just hear my voice in a black hole. Polly's been doing this thing where he

goes on stage and just has a spotlight on them they did it with Holtzman as well interesting it was it was for Holtzman it's really good Paulie actually I don't know if Paulie's doing at the store I know he definitely did it excuse me he definitely did at the store right I don't know if he did it at the mothership but when he would do it I go that's interesting I don't know if I like it well I like it for him but for H he would do it. I go that's interesting I don't know if I like it. Well. I like it for him, but for Holtzman. It's really good That's amazing cuz he's just a complete fucking maniac. I want to see Holtzman in a spotlight Did you see surrounded by black garden? I?

Didn't see his set it was fucking amazing. I imagine it was fucking amazing I imagine it wasn't worked You know Holtzman will take something that day right and run with it It's wild that day so he had this whole chunk about nobody likes Billy Joel fuck Billy Joel Billy Joel's home Madison Square Garden he sold Madison Square Garden out like 300 times. I know it's crazy It's like that's so funny. He's just like fuck Billy Joel. Nobody likes Billy Joel All the people that work here. Oh fucking Billy Joel's here. Yeah. Oh, that's so funny Now he's great. I'm not doing any justice. I'm not doing it

He's one of those guys where the stuff he does he can only do well We made a real big effort to get him to to Austin we because we felt like Look, there's not a diss to the Comedy Store But he had gotten into this position where they weren't utilizing him the right way They were just having him go up last at the end of these shows this you're talking about a 30 year comic, right? He's really good. Of course, it just but he's weird. It's a you gotta love it I love it. And he has an audience now.

People come to see him at the mothership and it's sold out. And they're expecting Holtzman. Right. Because it's like, do you ever hear the stories about when Hedberg was coming up? No. When Hedberg was coming up,

before everybody knew who he was, before he did Letterman sets, before he did Comedy Central sets, you would put him on as a headliner and they had this guy went on before him who was like rapping and doing back flips and super high energy and Hedberg's just standing there talking about frozen bananas.

You know what I mean? You have to set the stage right, you have to set the tone right. And until people know what he does, and then they come to see him, it's tough. And that's kind of the thing with Holtzman, if they don't know what's going on. They have to know.

But once you know what's going on, you're in. And it's great, because it's so unusual. It's so interesting how delicate things are. I had a guy, friend of mine, really talented singer-songwriter, and we were in San Jose, and I go, why don't you open the show with a San Jose, and I go, why don't you open the show with a few songs? And I thought, what would that do?

And he did like three songs, and it was like really a tough show. It was like a brutal show, like after he did three songs, and I didn't realize it. But a bunch of people told me, don't have comedy, follow music. It's too weird. It's too weird. It's two different mindsets doesn't work. It's two different mindsets. Yeah, and like he's singing songs and people are kind of like getting into it. And then we went on and did comedy and it was just,

it wasn't terrible, but it was very different. Yeah. And it didn't feel great. You gotta knock people out of that mindset of seeing music. And the problem is, no disrespect, but most opening acts aren't strong enough to shock them out of it.

They're not good enough to really get the crowd going and change the mindset quickly. So by the time you're getting up, they're just still adjusting to the idea that they're laughing. Yeah, it was, and I felt bad and he kind of felt bad. We didn't say anything after like he was sitting in the green room and I was like, good job man. He's like, yeah, you too. And then it was just silent.

Because we were so mad at him. And it wasn't his fault. He's an awesome guy. And we loved hanging out with him. He's from Northern California. So me and my opener were like, why don't you tag along? We'll do this road trip. Or maybe we flew, I think we flew.

And I said, it'll be fun. San Jose improv's like an old theater that they've made into a club great Great place and we were staying in like Palo Alto, which is fun. You walk around Stanford campus and you know See all the Asian people. It's nice to see everyone and But then he got up and it was it was like I didn't know what it was like running with weights on it Did he sing about? Just kind of like whatever he's doing.

It's like acoustic music, but it's like it's like some of it's like socio cult like commentary. So I was like, maybe that'll fit. It's kind of like folky, kind of like, you know, whatever here's what's going on type stuff. And I was like, I might be good. And it was like, whoa, it was like quicksand.

We got up and was like quicksand right after him up. And it was like quicksand right after him. And then he was like, you know, the next day, we're all kind of having breakfast. And I was like, you know, I think tonight we'll just do the comedy. He goes, no, I get it. He goes, it changed the energy. I go, yeah.

And I go, I'm sorry. I felt, and he goes, no, no, no, I'm sorry. It felt, I felt bad. It's just like mixing peanut butter and steak. Right. You no, no, I'm sorry. It felt I felt bad. It's just like mixing Yeah butter and steak right, you know, both of them are great. Yeah, you just can't do it. Just don't put them together It doesn't ruin the weekend because now we hated him But we like him but I'm like I hate I don't even want to look at him now because of how difficult this was That's hilarious. Especially San Jose Improv. That place is awesome

It's always supposed to be awesome and it was like, you know, it was like it was tough So it is one of comedy such an interesting thing. There's you've got to have An idea of like what you're going to see. Mm-hmm who you're going to see Yeah, and because I saw people that 8 o'clock Wednesday show. I'm like they don't want to be here Some of these some of these people don't want to be here Well, I don't think that's the case maybe it was I think they were weirded out by how light little so well lit We saw one there's a light in front of you on your table. Yeah, it was crazy. It was a bad idea Shows were the best ever. That's perfect. Well, we got them to shut off everything Yeah, I just I they they said oh, we're just gonna leave these lights on I'm like, let me see them off

Like the stage light right? Let me see that off, right? Let me dim it down dim it down Let me see it off. Okay, take it off. No get rid of it get right and they did everything Yeah, it's so nice owning a club. Well, of course, there's no committee. Yeah, there's no committee. There's me and you You're the dictator, but it's not even a dictator It's like you I do whatever the comic wants right whatever you need. Tell me what you want. We'll do it that way Okay, good. You want music? No music? Okay. No, right, whatever you want. No, it's the most comic friendly club meaning like You can do anything you with the reason that that's I need guidance because I don't know like I just know I like being funny Well you what you need yeah with a special

Yeah Is someone who knows you right and someone like if I was directing or producing your special? I would just never would have happened. I would have said no no no we have to have very dark Like let's take a look at it right let me hear the sound sounds gonna be cranked all the way up Yeah, make sure there's no there's no things that are missing and we're good. And just focus on Tim, let him do his thing. It's just everybody is an artist.

We talked about the Aziz special. No disrespect to Aziz, I think he's very funny. But that special that they did where Spike Jonze directed it, he's sideways and you see directly backstage where people are mulling around, it's odd. It's unnecessary. There's unnecessary things that I'm seeing now.

The best thing about live comedy is that you're there and it's just the person. You're just watching that person and you're listening to what he's saying and you're locked into their head. Whatever jokes they to what he's saying and you're locked into their head. Whatever jokes they're saying, whatever topics, you're locked into their head and you're just looking right at them.

You don't have to see the audience and see them on the side and see them from here and from there. Everybody wants to like move angles and... Everyone wants to reinvent the wheel and sometimes that's good, but often it's, I guess it's not. I think from now on I'm gonna do them live

I really so I think after doing that one live. I'm like even if it sucks, so I fucked up So this is me when I fuck up like fine, right? I'm just gonna prepare more like I did for this one, but I think this way It's like there's no way to do anything weird. You know there's no editing live comedy to me is so fun cameras suck weird. You know, there's no editing. Live comedy to me is so fun. Cameras suck. It's definitely an other element. But I'm glad that we found the dynamic that worked.

It's like once I always say do for to everybody. Yeah. You know, because a lot of times people were just doing one. It was good. The Wednesday early show was a warm up and that it was a little tough. So that it so that the good ones felt amazing Yes, you you had that right you understood how good these were verse the Wednesday You also understand like you got to do some work like it goes out

You can't be a little too relaxed out there. No and and and I learned that That's the best thing about bombing if you have a bad set or even just a flub A joke or something like that boy the next set you're so focused Yeah, you're so like tuned in and I try to be like that all the time I try to like think about that all the time and make myself like if I'm a little too relaxed where I go on stage Like hey, come on motherfucker. Like you've had some right shaky sets before you don't want to shake you set But like give focus right get that fucking first joke ready. Get banged.

Well, it's also a weird time in the world because we do have this weird drone thing. We have so many things going on simultaneously. There's a lot of weird shit. Yeah, there's a lot of weird shit going on simultaneously. There's like a lot of noise in people's heads. Anxiety. There's anxiety because people go,

Whitney sat in LA, just like these five drones, they look like they're in a, flying in a pattern or something. It's weird and people don't know what's going on. There's a weird theory, it's a missing nuclear weapon that they're looking for. There's a weird theory. It's a missing nuclear weapon that they're looking for There's a theory that these are foreign drones and then we talked about the fact that Maybe it is otherworldly

And no one's saying the problem is no one's saying anything no one's saying anything government I texted You know people like Tucker people like you I text like I have smart friends plugged in friends Nobody seems to know like Tucker made a great point. He goes to cover-ups bipartisan, which is not a good sign It's like ominous weird if it's a cover-up If it's a cover-up, it might simply be that whatever this is is so big That they can't talk about it publicly. They can't share it with Congress. Right. That's what gets scary and that's the nuke one. Now from what I understand somebody put community notes on the video that I reposted so I

reposted a video of this guy who's a drone manufacturer and he was saying that these drones could be trying to sniff out a nuclear warhead and that there was a nuclear warhead that was missing. And this guy was saying this, but then someone in community notes, I think said something about being part of that, that video is part of a misinformation campaign. I don't know what that means. Does that, when I hear misinformation, I feel like, I feel like someone's saying that this is intentionally misrepresenting the truth.

That's how I view misinformation. Like disinformation or incorrect information is one thing, but like misinformation always seems to me, like this is like on purpose. Right. Right, doesn't it? Yeah, I would agree. I might not be right in terms of like what the dictionary defines it as.

Disinformation to me like a disinfo campaign Yeah seems like it's a Concerned effort strategy. Yeah, and you want that information out there to muddy the waters. Yeah confuse people Yeah, so the end especially because they called it a campaign. So right a part of a misinformation you find it Jamie. I Don't see the community notes if you click on the video it doesn't have community notes anything god damn I swear to god I saw it before here's your post on it if I click there no community notes maybe somebody pulled down the community notes yeah here's the thing like whether you

agree with him or not he is a CEO of a drone manufacturing company. He scared the fuck out of me. He scared me. I think the disinformation or misinformation, whatever they're calling it, was in regards to nuclear warheads that had not been recovered. I think what the community notes was saying was that all the warheads from when Ukraine got disarmed- Are accounted for. are accounted for are accounted for yeah

So and then there was another guy. I don't know. I don't think it's the same guy Is it the same guy that was saying that he put his hands on one? Is that him? He's the one that said he said I spoke to some but you know, it's interesting my friend Bethany Who's like one of the real housewife chicks who? Came up with that margarita. She made like a shitload of money. That's some Frankel. Yeah, Bethany Frankel.

Some guy called her and we did a three-way call. She goes, I just want you to be on the phone with this dude. And he was just basically like, listen, my dad worked for this and that. And he was, you know, and he goes, said a lot of what that guy said. He said they're looking for something and whatever they're looking for, they want to find badly.

Yeah. Well, if they do have a Skunk Works program where they do have some very sophisticated drones that can do things that these drones are doing. One of these things these drones are doing is hovering for very long periods of time, five hours. Five hours of flight time is nuts for very long periods of time, five hours. Five hours of flight time is nuts for a drone and they're not exhibiting this traditional heat signature. Any kind of engine, an electric engine, any engine is going to give off heat.

It's going to give off friction. It just has to. So somehow or another these things aren't doing that. So how are they doing that? Do they have a cooling system? And if they have a cooling system, what's powering the cooling system and what kind of batteries are they operating under that they can fly for five hours at a time? So Ryan Graves, the fighter pilot who was on the podcast, talked about a couple of things that were theoretical,

that people were openly working on in the 1960s and then kind of disappeared. One of them is anti-gravity drives, like something that works not on a propulsion system like we have with jets, but something completely different, some completely different type of technology. And the other one was cold fusion. Interesting. That there does seem to be at least a few reports that people have been able to do fusion without generating all that radioactivity and the heat and the different energy that comes from regular fusion. Right, and that's something they've been

trying to do forever. Forever. It seems like, see, what's the latest on cold fusion, Jamie? See, it's one of those things where I think by the time it gets to a moron like me like how many people know it exists how many people suppress that it exists how much how often does if it's an it that seems to me to be an issue of national intelligence right like it national security you had any Jacobson on and she wrote that book about DARPA and that book talks about how

Many years in advance they've had a lot of these technologies By the time you're seeing that robot dog, you know that robot dog Yeah, make by the time you're seeing that motherfucker that's been around that fucker can probably run 500 miles an hour That's right, and it probably looks like a real cheetah. So it's been around for a long time Yeah, I think they're way more advanced than what they let on You know, especially when you're dealing with the government, right? If you're dealing with like some black ops skunk work stuff that they're doing at area 51, right? Well, how do we know about it by the time we know about it? It's already been used in war or it's already right

Like the fucking stealth bomber, right or it has a commercial component where they're gonna sell it Yeah, right by the time we know about the the state of the art of weapon systems, right? Why would they tell us so there is a possibility that this is a drill? It's time. They're exhibiting this technology, they're testing it, they're, you know, that's a possibility. Yeah, if you wanted to test like the capabilities of these things in urban environments and how people react, just throw them up in the air around New Jersey. You got the most volatile population on earth.

It's the most volatile human beings on the planet. If you were were gonna test anything, it's over the skies of New Jersey. It's a good place to test It's a motley crew of people in that state But I ideas is the king of the state Joey Diaz. He's the king of New Jersey Do you think there's a possibility that it's China? Yes. That's terrifying. It's terrifying. There's all possibilities, because as soon as they tell us, then we know. Because they're going around sensitive military bases. Yeah.

And they're coming from the ocean. And Trump said he didn't want to comment if he had gotten an intelligence briefing. But I watched his press conference. He said the government knows knows the military knows where they came from they should tell people and wouldn't comment on whether he received an intelligence briefing which makes sense. Yeah. But was basically he said in his estimation he doesn't think it's enemy drones because they would have shot them down even if they

were late. Yeah. Unless there's a reason they're have shot them down even if they were late unless there's a reason they're not shooting them down. So that's the whole thing. If China is able to do that, because it's not Iran, there's no way it's Iran, it seems like, and I don't know if it's Russia. But here's the thing, if you're going to shoot them down, you're going to shoot them down the skies over New Jersey. That's a problem. You're launching him down the skies over New Jersey. That's a problem

You're launching missiles into the sky over New Jersey They miss sometimes, you know, they missed when they shot that balloon Remember the balloon spy balloon that balloon was going slow as fuck and one of those missiles missed and sure that's true And that was pretty sure that's that's China spy balloons. Yeah, that was a spy balloon by China now How do we know they come from the waters? Well, they track these things they were coming from 50 miles at least off the coast Wow Just to be able to go that far That's so far. That's crazy like that should take an hour to drive US has first missiles missed unidentified aerial. Yeah, it missed.

So our best fucking missile couldn't even hit a goddamn balloon. It's just floating. It's not zipping through the sky like a jet. Right. It's just floating and they missed. So where's that missile go? I don't know. But you don't want to be there when it fucking hits the ground. So these drones, they're coming from the water

They're doing whatever they're doing surveillance whatever it is. They're sniffing around who knows and Then they're going back out to see some of them you see they're all different some of them seem to be Traditional drones that are commercially available some of them some of them are orbs There's people getting these photos of these fucking glowing balls plasma orbs There's one that I saw on Twitter. I was like man. I don't want to get into this right now I'm going to bed and so I forgot to save it Unfortunately because it was just is it when they're landing the plane and they're up really high No, it was they were focusing in on a screen so someone have you seen it?

I just saw it too, but it was on my for you feed and I don't know if I'm right now. We're overwhelmed by these goddamn things. They're not even saving the interesting ones and sending them to Jamie. I don't know, man. I think some of them are, we've watched one that was from Arizona that was a few months ago and we watched it jet off into the sky. We watched a video of it and it moves it first of all it's it's just a light it's like a ball of light and it's it rises and they're all freaking out like where's it going what the fuck it's moving it's moving it's moving and then it just goes like this like starts

moving towards space and because yeah we looked at that. No sound. I showed it to you at the club. No sound and an insane speed. I don't know what the speed was, but whatever the fuck this thing is, it was as big as an SUV, and then instantaneously it was gone. It just took off. And then there are some of them that people say

are the size of cars. Yeah, there was this one. It's the size of an SUV. So what is this, Jamie? A photographer says this is zoomed in from a 600 millimeter lens, which is a pretty big zoom. 20 year photographer, which I guess. Whoa.

This seems relevant somehow. I'm 61 years old. I'm indeed a boomer and a paid photographer for almost 20 years. So yeah, not sure what the point was. Just one more thing. People could say that the government or whomever is deleting the post.

Nah, it's people deleting them themselves because, wow, I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. Look at his photo. Look at his photo. So what is that? Look at his photo, his crazy beard. I bet that guy knows some herbal remedies.

Oh, that's not him. That's like a TikTok account. Yeah. So what is that? That's a drone Who knows what that is I mean that's something he saw in the sky is there any images can we go to his page Because that seems to be just a photo everyone was sharing this photo That's kind of right that post but it seems like his in his or I know I was gonna dig into that

Photographer, but you guys right? But you did you see that there was other images like you know I know yeah Let's so Sony a set. What is that Jamie? How is that a badass? It's a camera Is that like the shit new new okay, so top of the food chain right? Yeah, and that's what he saw whatever there's also a video of somebody from a plane And they're seeing these orbs in the sky above the clouds That's what he saw whatever there's also a video of somebody from a plane and They're seeing these orbs in the sky above the clouds. There's like a lot of stuff that is lit up Could we before you do that? Just go back to that image again real quick. It's so weird. That is crazy

that's that's fine of is that that's kind of freaking me out because Like what is that? I can't think of any conventional explanation if that thing is flying through the sky. The other photo that they're zooming on the screen, it looks similar to this. I'm trying to find that one too. That's why I was trying to keep it all. That's so weird.

How likely is it that this technology is being tested out because it, for whatever whatever reason we're on the verge of a major conflict with a country like China very possible yeah very possible it's also possible that look at that one holy shit that's an orb what the fuck dude but that's a phone camera though right a lot of right just look like weird lights that are getting blurred on, right? Well, we talked about that like the zoom feature in phones Like I've zoomed in on stuff before and if it's a light in the sky

It gets real squirrely on your phone. I got I'll tell you right now. I got completely I got completely That's where the Samsung phone has it way over the Apple phone is the zoom power I know it's digital, but it's a hundred X zoom and it's pretty fucking good When I zoom in on shit with that thing, it's so much better than my iPhone can do dude. I got completely I Mean this is when you get there's nothing better on the internet than, this is... When you get... There's nothing better on the internet than when you're completely... When you get had.

You got had? Yeah, I got had. And it was like... Really... And I just sent Jamie the photo of this. And Jamie, I don't know if you can bring that up. I just texted you. I literally was showing this to people.

Going, look at this drone over my friend's house and Then they were just like what are you like an idiot look at this? I'm like an idiot I was showing this to people and and I mean I was showing this to people It's the guy it's the guy it's the you know, it's the guy. It's the guy. It's the guy. It's the you know think the guy with the huge dick it's like And I'm showing this to people And I'm and and they're like it was a pumpkin and we're on my phone like making it We're going we're trying to get closer, and then I look like an idiot and now no one wants to hear what I have to say

When you zoom it like that looks like a pumpkin because I was like dude That's a drone and then like when I zoom up That fucking photo is that like the biggest meme of all time I think it's probably up there It's like that one and the lady with the sock hat screaming in the street when Trump won. That's right. Those are huge Those are big that poor lady. Yeah's right. Those are huge. Those are big. That poor lady, she probably had to grow her hair long. So I mean, it is weird that all of this stuff's happening. But one thing that I at least am comforted by, a war with a country like China would

destroy all life on earth. Why would they want that? Well, the thing is, if they could disable our weapons systems, if they can disable our grid, if they have infiltrated through espionage enough that they got deep into the inner workings of our systems, which seems like we're just not that organized the way China is. No. In regards to, you know, China doesn't let people buy land near their military base I we do China doesn't let other people sell them routers with third-party inputs They can fucking spider shit we do we do we used to at least right and so we know that the CCP is

Infiltrated a bunch of universities. They know that they send their best and brightest students over here and they share their information with the CCP You know there was um There was a story, God, I gotta remember this right, because I was barely paying attention to it, but it was a story where these people that were working on this project, the power went down for quite a bit,

and these Chinese people that were working there freaked out because it turned out that they couldn't get in touch with the CCP. They couldn't check in like when they were supposed to. Interesting. So what it was was they had people that were working for the CCP that were embedded in this like very significant project. And the CCP, they're smart man. They know what the fuck they're doing. They they They give grants to colleges and universities They like they infiltrate they know how to like use money and influence and and they get a bunch of information and there's a bunch of worries that some of the information from a chat GPT

Has been leaked over from open AI that they've gotten a hold of some of that information There was some sort of a leak that they were they were concerned with But there's been a bunch of those situations So if they have enough information where they know how our grid works, they know how our systems work They know how to shut everything down They all they would have to do is strike first Right if you just completely disable the government you completely disable the military like quickly can they really strike? I wonder what the goal would be

Complete domination of the world no that for sure But like America is an unruly country would it be that they would just then take over the United States Well, they'd make us insignificant right? That's the other thing You don't have to take over the United States if you want to run the world, right? Just have to disable it. You just have to make it Yeah Less effective. I mean, these are terrible things to think of well No, but I mean every Empire Falls and our Empire is certainly been sticking its hands and dirty nose

All over the world and All over the world. All over the world and everything. And a lottery for good reasons, for national interest reasons. Yeah, this is it, Jamie. Is that the orb? Yeah, so this is one these guys are zooming in on. Like, OK, what the fuck is that? What is that?

That looks really weird. That thing looks really weird. That looks straight out of the Bible That's like Ezekiel in the Bible Like what is that? That's a wheel within a wheel? What is that? but also What kind of phone is this filmed on what kind of lens was this filmed on is this complete distortion?

Are you just looking at? The moon is plasma a technology that anybody has? I mean that's a weird question because I don't know how to answer that. I know they've been doing stuff with plasma. They've been doing stuff. It depends on who you're believing, right? Because like if you ask Bob Lazar, he'll tell you that they were working on these gravity-defying propulsion systems in the 1980s trying to back-engineer them. Is he telling the truth? I don't fucking know.

I just know when I see things that are really weird, like that first image with the photographer caught, I don't know what that is. Like Jamie, how good is that lens that that guy's using? Like would would it possibly distort something normal and make it look like that? That's I With so they here's another I have it back up on the screen There's no post where they shared the like the data from the metadata. Uh-huh It doesn't give you a lot more information, but it helps because people want to find out if they can sort of recreate it with the same sort of settings and whatnot.

Bro, that picture is 3000 megabytes. 3481 megabytes. Oh, there's a period. It's 35. Oh, okay. Okay. I was like, that's crazy. Oh, so it's only 34 megabytes. It's a normal photo. I mean, it's really zoomed in to not but this picture is also zoomed in because you could even see the mouse Right thing that has the cursor on it. So it's hard It's either us It's either another country going here's what we can do Or it's intelligent life from somewhere else or is intelligent life from somewhere else. I mean that those are the three yeah

Possibilities us being the most benign unless we're looking for nukes, which is terrifying. Yeah Did you find that original photo Jamie where he shared multiple photos of her or is it just the metadata? I hadn't looked it up yet. It's yeah, I was getting there This government it's very odd gas lighting people and saying these are all regular drones and you're mistaking planes for and I was getting there. The government, it's very odd. Gaslighting people and saying these are all regular drones and you're mistaking planes for, and I'm sure there are instances of people mistaking planes for drones, but the idea that everybody has lost their mind

in the past two weeks isn't true. No, here's another thing. Is there ever been a time ever that you could ever recall where the government gave you information about something that was 100 hundred percent true and unbiased and accurate right and and maybe Concerning to people right never never never it's like that lady Kareen Jean-Pierre's that I say her name. Yeah the press secretary. What a terrible job. You just have to lie every day

You have to live every job. Yeah, everyone's mad at her, but that's the fucking job. It's the gig. Look, if you're working for a president that's reasonable and the press is unreasonable, and they're saying things that aren't true, like that Kayleigh McEnany lady. McEnany. McEnany.

Kayleigh McEnany. Sorry, Kayleigh. She's the best. She's the goat. And she always had receipts. She was like, oh, that's interesting because you said at this point in time and CNN said that and she just always has the receipts.

But they were saying things that weren't true. It was the opposite is what worries me. When the government is saying things that aren't true, that's when it gets weird. And then the press is yelling at them and she's saying, we've told you many times Biden is sharp as attack like that kind of shit What terrifies me is if I was gonna attack a country it is now. Oh, yeah Our president is incapacitated our vice president is going around the country drunk

The new president is in office new president is not an office yet. She has this weird period of transition where people don't know Who's got what authority. We have a month. A month. And we have a solid month and now all of this shit is happening right now. Yeah. And it's terrifying. Well, apparently Biden and Harris were both called to the White House. Well, thank God they're on the case. From wherever they were. I don't know if it has anything to do with this though. I feel great that those two are back. Well, where have they been? Finally someone that can deal with this. I think Biden was in Africa and I think she's like getting drunk at a hillstone.

I told you I've been describing them as the last managers at Blockbuster. I mean, that's what they are. That's what it is. It's true. It's a dead end job. It's the end. You don't even have to fucking show up just as a bullshit It's the end. We haven't heard a peep out of either one of them until well

They started talking about it yesterday when the information about Biden's decline came out and how readily Covered up. It was quite covered up instantaneously like they they were seeing it right away like from the first days in office They're seeing him. I heard before he ran Yeah, he met with donors and I knew someone in the meeting and they were like he doesn't seem great No, this was before he ran the first time bro I was saying that during the election and people were saying that don't you know he stutters? Like don't don't you know he stutters like this was one of the things that people were saying to me

He stutters I was like no no no go back to watch him from 40 years ago. He doesn't stutter watch him 20 years ago He doesn't stutter watch him when he was the vice president. He didn't fucking stutter. That's not stuttering You know what that is if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. It's probably a fucking duck ban Let's write a darpa, man right right unless darpa made it or It's really a duck nuke. Yeah in Central Park ready to fucking kill the whole city. I mean the scary thing is that We've been living in what feels like a movie for the last five years Yeah, like it constantly keeps ratcheting up. We haven't had a normal time There hasn't been a time when we've all just said, huh.

Right. It went from Donald Trump winning to a pandemic, to Biden, to realizing Biden was asleep and not running the country, to Trump running again again all the indictments a lot of the bullshit indictments almost getting killed with an assassin and then another guy tries to assassinate him at a golf course then Trump wins with a lot of support every swing state every single poll again wrong.

Now we have drones the size of cars hovering over planet fitness in fucking Matuchan, New Jersey, fucking Hillsborough town, wherever the fuck. We have orbs in the sky, we can't explain how they got there. We have the president of China getting his country on war footing firing generals that don't want to go to war Purging the military. Is that really happening? Purging the military of anybody who's like not into a very militarized

China He's like yeah, and that's you can look that up Jamie. There's a bunch of articles about that. Well probably articles about what's going on in Ukraine in Russia Well, that's the terrifying Taiwan The terrifying thing is are they all just get you know, it has he sat down with Putin and then Kim Jong-un or ill or I forget I think soon soon. Yeah, and then is he like listen, they're gonna fuck with you and Ukraine They're gonna fuck with us in Taiwan, you know, you know, like all these bricks countries like Iran and stuff At a certain point, you know our allies

Are not and you know, we have the UK We have Europe Europe's you know, whatever Europe is whatever it's left, right? And Israel I guess but we're it. Yeah pretty much. Yeah, so I guess, but we're it. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, so We've got to be a little careful about how we handle all of these different countries Yeah, I hope that when Trump gets in he genuinely can bring peace. I don't know if that's possible I don't know how that works. I think he's gonna talk to these people I think the real problem is that they you know Biden they've cut off communication Yeah, that's not good and And it's really not good.

And I understand maybe why they've done it because Biden's not all there. Yeah. Well, it's probably not good to have him go there and clearly not be all there. And then thinking they can get away with whatever the fuck they want. And the people like Tony Blinken and Jake Sullivan

and all these guys in the national security state take our, without a doubt, taking orders from people above them. And we don't know who the fuck these people are. Right. And the consensus is, we're gonna drain the Russian military through a bloody war with the Ukraine over two regions. And and we're gonna do all these things and we're going to, you know, we're gonna help the Assad regime get overthrown. Assad's not a good guy and he's a terrible guy, I'm sure, but that's a strategic goal of the United States for a long time and Israel and to do that. Okay, you know, it's not no good now we have

Someone in there. I mean, let's see what that looks like But there's a lot of instability you have a lot of well, they didn't like Assad so much They were happy when the Taliban and well, this is al-qaeda took over. This is the thing. So now we have Like there's no great choices in that part of the world. There's no like great Western democratic leader who's going to take over. It's just going to be a succession of dictators or religious theocrats. And it kind of always has been. Other than Iran, which was startlingly progressive until they had that coup that BP and us and

everybody else. Whoops. Whoops. Whoops. Mistake. Another reason to be mad at us. Yeah, that's part of the problem. It's not us It's not fucking country music and football. It's like Jamie. Whoa, Jamie Are you just gonna terrify us the whole time? That's it this these are just stars that are a little bit This is this is a John. Oh, this is a John summit concert. Okay Diplo This is nothing the star out of focus on the bottom looks exactly like the photos.

So these are just stars. Yeah, mostly, that's what it seems like. I found the original pose. Oh, thank you, Jamie. Wow. We're thinking we're getting nuked. Stars look dope as fuck. That looks exactly, and the top one?

It's not China nuking us, It's just the stars the top one beautiful Looks exactly like it. Let me if I pause it. Yeah Looks exactly like everything's fine. Yeah, we're fine. Biden's good except for all that Syria Ukraine We're doing too much and we need to, you know, and there's this weird idea. People just don't like if you say something like, and I understand people associate with movements that use the words America first and aren't good. But like, you know, back in the 1930s and stuff. But if you say like we need to worry about America or we need to put America first or we need to have a concern about America, people think it's inherently racist or like jingoistic

or like that you hate other people and yours it's like fascistic. But it's not. It's genuinely what every most countries do that aren't meddling in problems all over the world. Every country does it you would never call Norway Like a fascist country because they're worried about Norway And the things that we're doing in the world It's not always great. In fact, it's seldom as we're making a mess and

It's not us though. It's not you and me. It's not me and you you say we In fact, it's seldomness. We're making a mess. It's not us though, it's not you and me. It's not me and you. You say we. The thing about it that everybody has to recognize is that none of this is free. This is all costing insane amounts of money and people are profiting. And this is what Eisenhower warned about

when he was leaving office. And this is it, in the clearest sense of the word It's not crystal clear to everybody why all this stuff is happening And most people don't even know about the coup in 2014 Ukraine They don't most people don't know about the time you most people don't know that the president of the Ukraine right now Solinsky Played the president on a television show, a comedy show. And the premise of the comedy show

was that a comedian became the president. And then they made him the president. And Putin has gotta be sitting there in his palace with his whores going, are they fucking kidding me? Are they kidding, he's sitting in his palace by the black seat and heores going, are they fucking kidding me? Are they kidding, he's sitting in his palace by the black sea and he's going, they're making this guy the president of the Ukraine and I'm sitting here and it's hilarious.

Like, it's not even well done anymore. That's the thing. With what they're doing with like Epstein and all this stuff It's not even artful the way they're doing it. It's lazy All of this is lazy. It's like a bad cop show. They're like this guy plays the president on TV. Now, you're the president what? They call it the revolution of dignity It's just the whole thing and the CIA CIA is going around meddling in all these countries and they're like sloppy, ham-handed,

like Abbott and Costello-like way. And then you just have to like, and they've sold it in such a brilliant way to people. They've sold it in this like altruistic way that we're going or we're helping people and It's the revolution of dignity the way they say it. We're just giving people deep. That's all we're doing. We're over there dignifying and You know and and all these people You know

ignore like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, like all the things that we've tried to do and failed miserably at, democratizing the Middle East, all of these things. People pretend like they didn't happen. They go, no, no, no, this one's good. The Ukraine's good. This one's gonna work.

We're in there for the right reasons. We all believed That we weren't in Iraq for the right reasons and it was a mistake other than this coffee. Yeah Other than World War two is there ever a time where you could point to and say oh that one worked out We made it there's not a lot of good ones There's not a lot of good with Vietnam is not a great Vietnam was terrible. It was terrible. No, the things we're good at are like when

Bill Clinton was getting caught with Monica Lewinsky. He just bombed a chemical factory in Sudan for no reason. He just went, we're good at like the hit-and-run. I remember people openly even back then saying that he was doing that just to distract from the fact that she was in trouble Absolutely. Yeah, he's just giving us something else to think about I just we just need to take it down a notch We're like a chick who was hot forever and just got treated like that and was a cunt to everyone Now she's 60 and now she's 60 she's at the bar and she said call me because you're not hitting on her That's right, and that the tits are out and you And she's calling you gay because you're not hitting on her.

That's right, and it hits her out, and you're like, all right, but it's not what it was. And she doesn't understand that you can't go around the world treating people like shit now that you're older. You have to like fucking join a book club. Not only just older, but older and rich.

She's rich, she's got a lot of money, and she doesn't care. The crazy thing is they just keep sending money over there. Like, no matter what anybody thinks or says, the money just keeps flowing. We think that the Ukraine is going to be, it's gonna be like a client state

of the US State Department, which is what it has been. We don't have an interest in the people's dignity of the Ukraine, I hope people realize that. And I'm not saying that people in the Ukraine don't deserve dignity or their own government or whatever they want, I mean, God bless. Of course. Our foreign policy aims are not,

we don't go around the world going, who's not dignified? That's not what we do. And let's give them dignity. BlackRock, all these companies are being promised farmland. They all have contracts to rebuild minerals, mineral wealth. Lindsey Graham, last time I was on, we talked about that. So you just, you know, they want the Ukraine to be our client state in that part of the world where we are just enriching ourselves. Yeah. With

the minerals in the Ukraine, their farmland and you know we have all the contracts to build their critical infrastructure. So have you heard Mike Benz talk about the whole perisma thing? Not in as much detail as I should have yeah he goes deep into what they were trying to do and it's you know, it's about energy and it's about taking the control of energy away from Russia Right when you realize the what the world how the world runs it's interesting because when you're a kid or a young adult, you believe that the world

is run on ideas. I think this is, and I think it partially is, but you think like some people have good ideas, some people have bad ideas. Those people fight and hopefully good ideas win. But then when you realize when you get older, it's like a lot of it seems to be about trade routes, minerals, energy. Like people have things.

They have actual things. They have mineral deposits. They have oil. They have openings to the sea. They have routes to move stuff from one place to another. They have actual physical things of great importance and great value. And the ideas seem to just coalesce around those things. Like if Ukraine didn't have that mineral wealth, and it wasn't strategically important with

regards to Russia, and it didn't have the energy infrastructure that it did and we weren't involved in NATO and we weren't you know no one would care but it's it seems to be that you know this is really the way the world runs it's about energy it's about you know these minerals it's about you know keeping certain trade routes open to do business and then the ideas are sold to you based on the needs right of the people that are you know most people don't know what purism is right most people have no idea but our whole policy in the ukraine is probably revolving around things like that and probably most of our policy in the Ukraine is probably revolving around things like that. Probably most of our policy in the world.

And then there's weird ones, you know, like the Afghanistan opium connection. That's a weird one. Their production went up like 96%. Right. Right. As soon as we got in there it's like and then the the reality was like we were trying to say we need to help these farmers guard their poppy fields so that they'll give us info on the Taliban right how did

that work out 20 years later it really didn't it really didn't work out and and then they were supplying most of the world's heroin so most the world's heroin was coming from a place where we were actively guarding. Do you ever see the Geraldo Rivera one? Yes, yes. It's wild where he's kind of trying to gaslight people. That's when he had his Fox News show, right?

Yeah, so he's walking around interviewing these people who are guarding these poppy fields, trying to find some sort of way to gaslight folks. You gotta, if you're gonna do black projects all over the world, and the Congress isn't gonna give you money, you need to find a way to make money. And there's no better way to make money than illegal drugs.

Drugs are a great way to make money. Human trafficking's a great way to make money. I mean, it's not, I'm not saying it's great, like, morally great. No. But the intelligence community, there's these dark corners of the intelligence community that need money to operate and do the things they want. And it always seems like anytime there's a human trafficking

thing going on or a drug thing, they always seem to be in the picture. The intelligence community, they're always like there. There's always like a guy that knows a guy who's an asset. It's never like they're nowhere near it. Right. They're always somewhere lurking around in that vicinity. No, isn't part of that their job?

Part of that is probably their job. Right, like if you're someone who's got an eye on national security and you wanna make sure the terrorists aren't plotting anything, you kinda have to be a part of everything nefarious To a degree. I'm like clearly I'm no devils out for sure of course And I think you're right as Dick Cheney said we have to work with the bad people We got to work with some bad like we weren't before that was the funny thing After 9-eleven, he's like, we gotta work with some bad people.

There's too many, we're just working with too many good people. We actually have to start working with some bad actors. And it was just like, everyone was like, that makes sense. So I'm gonna bring in my business partners. Right, so I'm gonna bring in my friends and family. But you're right, I think to an extent, there is an argument to be made

that you have to have tentacles in these different things. Now do you have to run blackmail operations with Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy? Do you think the government was involved in the P. Diddy stuff? One thousand percent. Really? I think they wanted to blackmail serious Hollywood people serious music people serious athletes. I I think that Diddy opens up a different world than Epstein opened up and I think if you want control over people in that world This is there's startling similarities between Diddy and Epstein

And you know, I mean did he have the same head of security as Michael Jackson What does that mean? Well Was Michael Jackson in the government? No, Michael Jackson has been credibly accused of inappropriate activities. Oh, right and He had a security guard. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. Okay. It's just an interesting connection but generally like Okay, it's just an interesting connection, but generally like People that specialize in top-level celebrities like that. They work in the same circles. Yes, but those are Yeah, but I see that's what's interesting is like we didn't know about the Diddy thing until

Look, I've been in Hollywood for I was there for 25 26 years or something like that I I didn't know about the ditty parties No, I think I have to get invited to the white party like on like fucking People magazine or something like that well, I think it's just one of those things that like You're invited to and you could go and show up there and stay for an hour and it's all completely innocent and then there are afterparties or Certain things they would tell people right, you know at midnight every better go home or completely innocent and then there are after parties or certain things. Well they would tell people, you know, at midnight, you better go the fuck home or it gets wild. Be prepared to freak off. And there's targets. I think people, they

want leverage on certain people. Well certainly if you have artists, right? Like say if you have an artist and he's the next Tupac, right? And you imagine the amount of money a guy like that can generate if you have some like super talented artist right What can compromise? Yeah? Well, that's right And now you have him and now he's got to kind of do what you want You know the Jimi Hendrix story no, so Jimi Hendrix one of his bodyguards One of his bodyguards or one of bodyguards like someone who was involved with him

Wrote a book and the book was essentially alleging that Jimmy Hendrix was killed by his manager who was a mobster because Jimmy Hendrix was about to leave his manager and What happens with a lot of these artists is whoever is controlling them might have ownership in their titles might have ownership in their music and If you think someone's gonna leave and you kill them like now you have all their music and And if you think someone's gonna leave and you kill them, like now you have all their music and you essentially can keep selling it forever,

especially someone like Hendrix. Like he's actually worth more to you dead than if he leaves you and you're not making money from him anymore, he's worth more to you dead. Well, there was that whole thing with Diddy and the biggies shooting. Well, also Diddy's exes, right?

His ex, someone who knew his ex, they all died of pneumonia. You can give someone, there's certain chemicals, poisons that you can give people, and it results in pneumonia. You know, I don't know if these autopsies even check for that stuff. Right, probably not. I don't know.

I mean, what is it? Is it like cyanide? What is it, Jamie, that, like, cause we did Google this at one point in time That there are certain poisons you can give someone and they'll die like they died of pneumonia and like a bunch of people around him died of pneumonia That's a weird. I don't know anybody Hollywood will never recover from

The last few like the knowledge that a lot listen There's so many talented people here it is lung angiorenal for cyanide poisoning may also cause respiratory symptoms of bronchitis Lung edema and pneumonia you just give someone cyanide and wasn't doesn't didn't one of his Bodyguards say that they tried to poison him three times There's like one of his bodyguards came out recently and he was doing some interview and said they tried to poison him Yeah, who knows what's real it's hard to imagine that Hollywood recovers from just the slew of bad and Truthful press so much shit went down so much dark shit also just how stupid they are right the Will Smith thing They're when they gave him a standing ovation after that. This is so stupid like right you're not you know you guys don't think straight

This is no you're thinking nutty. It's a very isolating strange place, and I've lived there on and off for a long time Not long, but four or five years, but like I go I do my sets. I have a few friends It's not a place conducive to making friends Everyone's not far away not anymore not anymore And we still have the store. That was the hub. That was a hub of comedy Yeah, those would go we would all ever it was so good. Those years were yeah, they were great years from 2014 2019 it was so good. It was so good. Or you'd have like a friend who wrote on a show and then they had a crew of people

because they all worked together. But now it's all fallen apart. And it's just kind of lonely and vacant. It's a vapid culture now, right? Because like a lot of the comedy is like diluted significantly. And then you don't hear a lot about music coming out of LA anymore I'm sure I'm sure people are still grip me well LA the music now is like young rappers who are all white and Are all drinking cough syrup?

And what happens now in LA is There's a parking lot like full of kids and a van will pull up and like five security guards get out of this van and then they pick up this child who's like asleep because he's drank so much cough syrup and then they sit him on the top of the van and he says things that aren't words. He goes,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them just yells slut truck, and he's a talented guy, the NetSpend kid, but he goes, he's on, they put him on the top of a truck and he goes, slut truck, slut truck. And then everyone cheers. I guess sluts are in the truck. I imagine this is something about this.

Then they take, they pick him up like a billy good child They pick him up and he like kind of waves And then they put him back in this van And then they drive him away And everyone goes nuts. That's the music industry now That's what it is It used to be like joplin or hendrich or whatever or even Biggie or Tupac whatever But there's also a bunch of people like Oliver Anthony. Yes, they like emerge online, you know Zach

This kid emerged online too, but Yeah, but we're talking about LA listen you could be talented and there's James Mcmurtry in Austin is amazing plays at the Continental Club There's tons of great music Yeah, but a lot of the young rappers are white suburban kids who have drug problems I think it's a weird place to be an artist now. Yeah, it's not the same place It did like the soul of it was destroyed during the pandemic there's something about like realizing that it's so inept and corrupt and stupid. The laws were so stupid and everybody was just so,

it was so, everyone was so weirded out. I think people lost confidence. There's a darkness that's so funny. It's like New York never has that darkness and New York is this crazy frenetic place. Right. But you don't feel bad in New York. No.

You don't feel like dark. Right. LA, you get depressed. you link to press and it's pretty that's the other thing I know I like it's like a press New York is like gray and it everyone's running around but there's like a soul right to it well in New York people aren't trying to get famous and I think that that permeates every aspect of what LA is. It's this desire that so many people have when they're there to be famous.

There's so much proximity to fame, and then there's so much like, who do you know? Do you know famous people? Are you going, hanging out with famous people? Oh, we went to George Clooney's house. We went to this guy's house. We're hanging out with this guy on Malibu Beach. It's cool.

Like you're in the right, like that's like, that's part of like the currency there. Right. Is fame, and so that's a vapid thing. Which is now meaningless. Meaningless. It has no meaning. Hawk Tua.

No meaning. She's more famous than most actors on television. It has no meaning because it isn't assigned anymore based on anything. Right, it's not talent, like you're not Hendrix. No. You're just some person and you have a Twitch channel. There are people that are very talented,

but then there are people also that are just, you know, they're good at getting famous and staying famous. Right. And some of it, you know, like this family that screams and yells in a Costco and they sing songs in a Costco. That's their whole thing. And they've been on the Tonight Show and they're really, you've never seen the Costco family? No, the Costco family is a family of cretins

from Florida. And they scream and yell and they have a song about Costco and they eat these cookies I mean can you please back me up here because he thinks I'm not know about this they bring the boom they bring the boom they have a whole show it's they bring the boom I think they're demons and it's an incantation because they go double choc chocolate cookie and I think it's a demonic incantation and I believe they're the physical representation of an entity called ball and Roseanne talks about this Why look at this? But this is an evolution they got to the song how many views are on this well, this is just a youtuber

This is not these are big on these are famous people and this is something is wrong. Something this is as disturbing as the drones. Well here's the thing about TikTok and the thing about reels and even Twitter to a certain extent when you're just scrolling from video to video to video. Yeah, it doesn't have to be good to get your attention. No, it's the cringe element of it is what makes, because every view was created equal. So if you're repulsed by something and you keep showing it to people,

so that's how you got this family. Can you play their song? I mean, Jamie, this is worse than the drones. And they're literally well known. Do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean this is like YouTube wants money I mean don't they ever have enough these people go. This is satanic. They stay on brand. So the point, the boom here.

These guys deserve all the money in the world. They eat, they go eat, they eat this garbage and then they go, they rate it on a boom meter. So they go eat this chicken bacon Costco. How famous are these people? Very, I mean, they're like very fam- internet fame right now, very famous. They're everywhere. This guy used to be a pro wrestler. Maybe China Sugar. So he knows how to perform?

Yeah, for sure. But you know, it's like... See, look, Mr. Beast bringing the double chum to talk with Shooky. I mean, this is... It's an incantation. It's demonic. Well, that's why the drones are here. It's a signal. But by the way, it is time.

As much as I don't want this to happen, it is time. Don't you kinda want it to happen though? It might need to. If it's aliens, I kinda want it to happen. I think it might, that might've, they might've said, we're not doing that to aliens. They might've heard double chug chocolate, and the aliens went, no, no, no, you fucking retards. We gave you we gave you technology

Thousands of years to figure it out. We visited the Sumerians We gave them stuff and you've used it to go to Costco enough enough. We're sending the orbs. Yeah It's too much Yeah, it is too much. So to base your life on fame is stupid The thing is though if you're that guy, yeah and that family and now also in your rich Which you know, yeah happened to a lot of these tick-tock folks. Also in your rich. Why wouldn't you do it? I'm not your untalented. I'm not blaming him What I'm saying is that the culture like Bill Hicks used to talk about you pay

a psychic price. If people know that they can get famous like that, it spreads. It spreads like malaria. And now everybody is being a monster to try to get attention without any discernible skill or talent. That infects the broader culture, and I think that's not a net positive. I think you're absolutely accurate. Yeah.

I wonder how long that's gonna work. Like, is it gonna be a trend that comes and goes, wonder how long that's gonna work like It is it gonna be a trend that comes and goes like many other things one hopes or is it going to Expand and get more stupid Like if it's just about attention if attention becomes something you can monetize monetize So you're essentially asking people to do more and more extreme things. That's why you have a lot of these people doing pranks and getting beat up in the mall. That's right.

The guy got shot. Remember that guy got shot? You kept harassing this guy. Guy just pulled out a gun and just shot him in the stomach in the mall. Right. Could it get dumber? Like, let's imagine something dumber than TikTok.

Let's imagine something dumber. Like, what's Let's imagine something dumb. Like what's the next stage of dumb? That's gonna shock you That's gonna get a lot of attention. I don't know but it scares me if it continues to degenerate What would be next? I mean you look at the cosco people you go god help us. What is that a precursor to right? And that's the scary thing Well, you only have to do so. I mean, there's people now that are reviewing McDonald's, like there's people that go to the gas stations and eat.

The guy who makes food in the bathroom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They make them in a sink. Yeah. I mean, something's wrong. It's time for the orbs. There's a lot of stuff like that now where you look at it and you go, this is really base level gross stuff. When my kid was young, my youngest was like nine. She was really into watching people eat on YouTube.

Right. Mukbang. It's huge, my cousins, my little cousins are, did you ever see lower middle class mom? And they're just feeding their kids poison? And every common is like, stop feeding your kids this. And she's like, get ready with me. And then she just buys frozen food and cooks it

and chops it and puts it in little lunch boxes and these little monster kids grab it with their mitt and they just head out. And you know, it's weird that That they're doing stuff like this. You got a plate. I mean there's one look at this. Look at this Lazy dinner for my middle-class family of seven. Joe. This is a cooking video. She's plating Kentucky fried chicken. She got She's plating fast food. I got the chicken pot pie. We used a coupon for a 10-piece dark meat for $13.99.

Each of the kids are going to get a chicken leg. We got two sides of mashed potatoes and gravy. See, I'm torn here because I really do enjoy Kentucky Fried Chicken. It is good, but this is odd that this is happening. It is odd that she's like dishing this out and anybody gives a fuck. That's what's strange. And I think people are watching it because there is this weird factor of like people are kind of fascinated by this American diet of processed food. That's true too. And I think people are interested in it.

Because when people come from other countries, they're not aware of it. Or I mean, when people are watching stuff from other places, the strawberries, that evens it out. But she... It's healthy. So I think stuff like this interests people. And, you know, they look at it and they're curious.

And it's voyeurism. There's also a thing there that you're watching, where there's a person who doesn't have a lot of money, who's feeding their kids. That's right. And she goes, she can do it. Maybe I can do it. Well, there's a feeling, a weird feeling.

When you're watching that, that's a person who's barely getting by. They're barely getting by, right? They don't have a significant amount of savings savings and I'm doing well with their career, right? They're just trying to keep alive kids right a cheap price. Yes, and so they're showing you how they're doling out the food I know yeah But I I prefer like the Rolling Stones to that. Yes, you know what I mean? I prefer like the movie Heat to that. Like I don't want to watch you barely keep your kids alive

with Kentucky Fried Chicken. It would be nice to have better things. I don't, but we just watched it and you told me about it and that's why we watched it. And that's giving them more attention. It's my, you know. You're protesting. I'm protesting, but it's like, I'm also not a, you know, I'm protesting but it's like I'm also not a

You know, I'm not above any of the things I'm talking about. We're all human beings I'm just noticing that they're probably negative. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not tempted to watch this stuff I'm not saying I'm not fascinated by it. We're all kind of weirdly oddly fascinated by it I'm not saying I'm better than somebody that watches it because I'm watching it. I'm just probably, I'm just going, I think it's probably negative. I think when mediocrity and stuff like that

rises in the culture, it's not an overall net positive. No. When everybody's chasing fame, which is a very unstable thing that is you know strange and Ultimately You know a bet. It's a bad goal system You have so I think when kids are growing up and they're watching this stuff and they're going

Oh, I should just be internet famous and that's how I'll make my money And they're going I should just be internet famous and that's how I'll make my money Well, you know that that's like a giant goal among kids today huge like it's as far as like job aspiration influencers very high on the list do your kids know how How like well known you are or do you think they don't? It would be amazing if they didn't well, I don don't know. I'm sure it'd be pretty amazing. But they know. Yeah, they know.

They're super aware. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a freak when I go places. And people just come up to you and it's a whole thing. Yeah. Most people are real nice. So it's not a real problem. It's just like, most people are just being nice.

That's fine. And most people are super respectful when you're with your family Of course, don't try to take too much your time, right? You know, it's just it's what comes with the job not my people. Yeah, they want my time Yeah, well, they want my time to I don't have a family. So I'm just sitting there alone. They go Yeah, they'll sit right next to you and they'll they'll point to their girlfriend and they'll go tell her how to Clintons fuck kids And they'll point to their girlfriend and they'll go, tell her how to Clintons fuck kids.

Tell her, tell her, I keep telling her, she doesn't believe me, tell her. No one suffers more than the girlfriends of our fans. I mean, one woman came to me and she said, I think you're really funny and she goes, but every day I hear either Joe Rogan's voice, Theo Vonn's voice, your voice, and she goes, I just want it to stop.

And sometimes she goes, sometimes she'll go like I'll wake up and you're like yelling about something in my house and my boyfriend's laughing it's really funny and she goes why are you and he goes no he's screaming about is some waitress at a diner and ripped him off. And she goes, make it stop, turn it off. Why are we listening to this? Why are we listening? Well, ladies, you have your true crime shows. This is what we need as, I could say this, as men, for sure.

Certainly as comedians and including a lot of comedian females. We need to talk shit. It's very fun and it makes life enjoyable. It makes life make more sense. The drones freak me out talking to you rather about the drones makes me laugh. It's fun.

I would rather talk shit about what's going on in Ukraine and laugh with you than really stay up at night freaking out about the fact that we might be. Cause some people's job is to freak out. That's not our job. I don't want to freak out. Somebody in the Cheyenne Mountain, whatever military underground base, their job is to be like following dots. Yeah. Why is that one up in the sky for five hours? Right.

So I'm wondering like if Cheyenne Mountain base, if they're like, are they all scrambling, like what's going on? Or if you went down there, are they're like are they all scrambling like what's going on or if you went down there Are they just like drinking coffee like bored going like yeah, what is this drill end in two days? Well, I can tell you from the people that I know I've been able to talk to some very important people. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on. That's so fucking weird That's what's weird. And that's weird a bunch of different Theories and all of them are not good. None of them are comforting.

The big one is the coming off the water one is a real bad one. Yeah. And this is like, this seems like not that big of a deal, but it is a big deal when you realize like, how are you fitting 50 suburban size drones on a ship? And you're maintaining them on that ship? Are you charging them on that ship?

Like what kind of an energy source are they using? How are they up in the sky for five hours? How do they go 50 miles out to sea to wherever the fuck this thing is that they're launching from? Are they transmedium? That means do you have a craft that's able to go into the water?

And is there something in the water that's launching them? Do you have a giant military base under the water that I don't know about? Or does someone else have some sort of an enormous fucking underground, underwater submarine that's capable of holding these things on it and we don't know it's there? That's terrifying too.

So is it ours? Someone's gotta know. Someone has to know. Someone knows, and now it's not maybe someone that you've spoken to, but there's someone somewhere that's gotta know. I bet it's very, very high up on the beach the we're talking about like the men in black, right? It's not even one of the agents we will hurt like the CIA the NSA

This is probably like one smart guy told me once he goes I go what's the highest up? I just like the CIA and he laughed and I go why you saying that he goes You are saying they're the highest up but he goes you've heard of them He goes the deepest stuff is you don't even know but he goes, you've heard of them. He goes, the deepest stuff is you don't even know. There are no, you've never heard of it. The deepest stuff you've never heard of. He goes, you know what the CIA is,

you know what the NSA is, he goes, there are things you have no idea what they are. So I don't know what's going on. I genuinely hope it's UFOs. I hope it's UFOs, because maybe they're coming to help us I forced on put the Costco family in jail Stop us stop us nuclear war stop Maybe China and us are about to have a nuclear war and these aliens have landed and they're like cut it out. Yeah

Yeah, like an adult showing up at the playground when two kids are about to fight like hey, hey, hey Yeah, settle the fuck settle it down. This is so stupid and you guys are lying about why you're doing this in the first place right? I think that if I was an alien race And I wanted people to get accustomed to the idea that they're being visited. I would do this I would do exactly what they're doing I'd have things that behave like drones and they hover over the sky for a preposterous amount of time Way more than our drones can do no heat signature But they still move and behave like drones and they're not doing anything

So we assume they're drones So you get people comfortable with the idea of things in the sky all the time Then you make them a little more complex You have a few of them that come by that don't make any sense You have a few a few that are mixed in with these other drones that are doing things like that one in Arizona that shoots up into the sky. You have a few, and then you keep ramping that up. You slowly trickle it in. Instead of having some fucking three mile long craft that's built like a boomerang hover over Washington, D.C., instead

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So what is these guys just liar? The aliens are there so if we not only know the aliens are there but we have a crash retrieval program if that's real First of all, why are they crashing? How are so many of them? Jacobson is the one thing that didn't make any sense She said like Roswell. She said it was it was they it was like they flew a midget Yeah, who had a weird disease. So he looked like an alien to scare everyone. The Soviets, that was like weird. I was like, what is that? I love Helix mattresses.

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cause Roswell was too long ago. You know, Roswell's like, what did Jesus say to Matthew? Are you sure? That's what he said? Were you there? Like, Roswell's 1947. That's so long ago, man.

Everybody's dead. And also, it became a cultural focal point where everybody, I mean, the town has, like, alien merchandise everywhere. It's become, like, a part of the lore of the town. So it's tainted. The story, the purity of the story is tainted. But the people that were involved in the story initially, when they talked about it afterwards, that's what's compelling. When you find out that they printed in the newspaper that they had a crashed flying saucer, and that they took the rubble or the wreckage from this and flew it to Wright Patterson Air Force Base

in two separate jets in case one of them crashed and then Truman met them there. And then when you find out that they were informed that they were supposed to do a press conference and show some wreckage from an obvious weather balloon and claim that this is what they found. And so you have this guy who's standing there, is that Marcel? I think it's Jesse Marcel. You have him standing there and they're holding this stuff that doesn't look anything like a flying disc. And they were informed that they were supposed to say this.

And this is what he said later on in his life that they told him to have this press conference and they told him to explain it away, but that they didn't know what the fuck that was They didn't know what it was and that whatever it was They had recovered some pieces of it and you could take those pieces of it And it was a it was like a metal But you could take this metal and you could crush it like a ball and then let it go and it would immediately go back To what it was right they don't know what it was made out of. They found these beams, some part of the wreckage

that had writing on it. And they describe this writing as looking like an ancient language or hieroglyphics, like very, very strange writing. Like people have drawn images of what this writing looks like. Those stories are all very interesting to me because these are the people that had direct contact with the materials and were actually there and their version of the story is they can't explain what the fuck that thing

was. But the military was very interested in what that thing was. I believe that if that actually was a weather balloon they wouldn't care at all. You certainly wouldn't have Wright-Patterson Air Force Base on standby, Truman meeting them there, two jets flying the wreckage to make sure they don't wreck. All that stuff is very interesting to me. And the stories from the Bible, the stories from, I mean, if you read Jacques Vallee's book on UFOs, there's stories that are from the 1700s, the 1800s. They're all really fucking similar. If I was an

intelligent life force from somewhere else and I knew that there was these fucking psychotic monkeys down there with nuclear weapons and TikTok accounts and these motherfuckers are building an AI that is probably gonna be smarter than them in a year. They're building quantum computers. They've got nukes pointed at each other. This is you got to watch these fucks. You do. You got to watch them, especially if we're going through like a transition that every species goes through, like maybe every species goes from

you become warlike to control your environment and to so that you're safe. You're still emerging from these primitive primates so you still have these savage instincts. As time goes on you develop technology and resources and agriculture and all these different things to sustain large populations of safe people where they don't have to think about hunting and gathering and they could figure out technology. And that over time if you just let them keep going and don't let them blow themselves up and when did the UFOs really start showing up? The reason why the mothership is called Fat Man and Little Boy is because in UFO folklore

that's when all the ships arrived. When the Kenneth Arnold sightings, when they were over the White House, that's all right after World War II, right after the nukes got dropped, which completely makes sense. Like that would be a point where they would have to step in and go, hey, hey, hey, let's let you know there's something way more powerful than you fucking crazy apes, and if you play your cards right, you'll be us one day.

But if you nuke it, it starts from scratch, and now you're back to microbes and single-celled organisms and a molten planet You know, and then it has to take a couple billion years to cool and right I mean who knows what we could it sets you back. We might kill all life on the planet We might turn this planet into a dead rock. I don't know what happens when all the nukes get detonated I know it kills every person right every person. There's enough nukes to killated. I know it kills every person. Right. Every person. There's enough nukes to kill everyone, all of us.

The whole world. That's so crazy. And if you were from another planet or a more advanced intelligence, that would concern you. Yeah. I mean, maybe they evolved in a completely different way, where they didn't have to go through this violence that we go through.

If you asked anybody today, what's the possibility in your lifetime there would be no war? Nobody says, nobody says that's going to happen. That's kind of nuts that as technologically advanced as we are. It's just such an accepted reality that there's always going to be a war somewhere. And it's always going to be groups of people that are told to go somewhere and kill people They don't know right because they have leaders and it's amazing that China and us can't share You know like there has to be a winner and there has to be a Somebody on top.

Well, if you're a mob leader, okay, and there's another guy on the other side of town and he runs that side of town, and you've always had a good relationship, the families have always been, you sit down, you have pasta on Sunday, you talk about business, but then one guy from your group goes over there and gets killed, and then they lie and say that your guy killed them.

And then they start sending another guy. Another guy dies. And then they lie about that. And then you know they lied about that. And then all of a sudden, you're not working together anymore. This guy wants more money for the shipments. Our guys are at the fucking docks. And it just goes, you're scared to death.

While you're sitting in your fucking penthouse. And then you have violence and you have chaos. But if the families are working together, everybody's money, right? There's a billion Chinese people. There's 330 million Americans. There's plenty of people to make money off of sell them stuff Do the thing let's go doing this profitable. That's what I was hoped would Dissuade a conflict was that there's so much economic opportunity. We don't wanna, if we boycotted Chinese products, oh my God.

We'd be so fucked. We'd be so fucked. But we gotta make it so that we can all share this idea that one person's not saying it, but secretly trying to overthrow governments. You know what I mean? That's part of the problem. that's part of the problem. That's part of the problem.

And this is what I think the deep state really is scared about with Trump, because he genuinely wants to stop the wars. Like he's openly saying it. Yes. We've got to stop people from dying. Right. That shouldn't be controversial. That shouldn't be something that the left opposes.

They also don't like that he can't be controlled. Right. And they have, for a very long time, used people's secrets and vulnerabilities to control them. And financial. And financial. Right, the fact that he paid for the entire campaign himself, that's different.

Like, or funded it, or figured out a good way entire campaign himself, that's different like it did like the war funded it or hat You know figured out I get there are it's different. There's an accepted practice of how That town runs and you know the world runs and they don't like the idea that they can't control people It's just dangerous to let people continue to control people when the entire country is set up to have a limited amount of control for a limited amount of time so that the will of the people is met. That was the idea behind it when they first started, is the idea to prevent tyranny. To not have some person stay in for more than two terms. There's a bunch of different fails that you get the House, you got the Senate, you got a bunch of different Supreme Court decide over things.

They're appointed for life. You got a lot of things got the Senate, you got a bunch of different Supreme Court, decide over things, they're appointed for life. You got a lot of things that are set in place, a lot of amendments and these things that are set in place to protect your rights. You can't fuck with those. You can't fuck with those. Because the moment you do just to have your team win, you set it up where we're living in chaos. We're living in hell.

There's never been a fucking socialist, Marxist, Leninist country ever that worked out. It's like this, and it's all coming from institutions like universities that are living in fantasy land. They're all fucking. Well, they all just wanna reorder this hierarchy and put themselves on top. Yeah.

And they wanna elevate on top. Yeah. And they want to elevate mediocre people. Yeah. And, you know, and that there's always a ulterior motive for whatever they say. One of the things that's encouraging over the last couple of years is that people culturally have begun to see through it. Yeah.

They know what it is. They know what it is. They know what it is. More now than I think ever before because of COVID. I think COVID woke a lot of people up. It woke a lot of people up. I think people are looking at all this stuff and they're going, if it feels irrational, it is. Yeah.

You know, you have a gut. You have instincts. You can trust them. If it sounds insane, it is. It is. And for sure, these people that are telling you trust them, if it sounds insane, he is. He is. It is. And for sure, these people that are telling you that everything is perfect and everything works amazing and everything is excellent and stop listening to the people that are

saying differently, they're not telling you the truth. There's no way they can be. There's no way they can be about anything. Fill in the blank whatever subject we're talking about. Pharmaceutical drugs, whether we're talking about the environment, whether we're talking about energy, no one's telling you the truth What do you think about the this kid who shot the CEO? Do you think he'll get convicted? Well, it's pretty obvious that he shot him if that's a guy

I mean there's a video of him doing it was he denied a claim or was someone near him denied a claim? He had these back problems United Health Care was not his health care provider, but they are the biggest, I believe, and they deny the most claims. The target is interesting that he chose that guy. I guess he chose him as a symbol of the inequity in the healthcare system and how fucked up it is. It is a fucked up system. Why wouldn't he go after a CEO of the company that actually denied him?

That's a great question, and that's a question that people are asking. Was he mentally ill? Well obviously. To be able to do that you have to be at least at some level mentally ill. He was a smart guy who had an Ivy League education and a wealthy family but apparently he had maybe had a psychic break in the last three or four months where he was writing manifestos and reading a lot of Unabomber stuff. Really? Unabomber?

Yeah, he was a big fan of Ted Kaczynski. And he got kind of, he disappeared for like three or four months, his family was looking for him, friends of his were looking for him. He went to some commune in Hawaii. And there's actually a video of the guy in Hawaii that was like, we let everyone in that has love in their heart,

and Luigi had love in his heart. So I think he was hanging out with them, and his back problem was very disruptive. It fucked his life up. What happened to his back? I don't know. He had something. Did he get fused? I don't know if he got fused, but I know that saw something was a back issue x-ray images on like a clickbait

YouTube video that was talking about his health care claim. Yeah, there was a like I think his profile picture was like his back. He had like some surgery. So maybe you're right. It's I don't That's a scary one when you get surgery on your back I don't know anybody who's gotten surgery on their back where they're like it made it feel so much better, right? It's a truck. It's a very troublesome area to work on I do know people that have gotten artificial discs particularly in their neck and it worked out really well, right? Yeah, there's people my grandmother had a pig valve in her heart. That's in his header photo. So people assume that's him That's his low back

That's again. Yeah, not be him. It's just a picture you posted but that'd be a weird thing to do So those are screws, right? Yeah, that means he got his discs fused in his low back So what happens when you do that, especially if you look at that young man, he's very jacked and active What happens is now the disc above that is going to get an unusual? What happens is now the disc above that is going to get an unusual leverage on it. It's not moving the same way because all of them are supposed to articulate together. So all the discs, so you have discs and then you have your spinal column, so you have these bones and the discs, right? And the discs are mushy and they're supposed to like, you're supposed to have muscles around those bones so it stabilizes everything and everything

kind of moves and bends and becomes pliable. As soon as you have a bunch of them that don't move anymore, now this area is going to take a lot of pressure. What do we think? A lot of times people have to get that one fused too. Do we think you had an injury? Is that what would make something? I believe we did.

Yeah. I believe we did. But that's a really common place to get your back injured. There's other, if anyone's listening and this is happening to you, there's other different ways that, and I'm not saying that people, some people don't need back surgery.

I'm not a doctor. I'm just saying that I know of many people that were considering back surgery that found alternative methods to heal their back and they didn't need to be fused. Some people are bone on bone and those are the people that are the best candidates. Those people have been suffering for a long time.

They're the best candidates for these articulating titanium discs. My buddy Eddie has one on his back. I have a couple friends that have them in their necks. I know three UFC, four UFC fighters that have them in their necks. So they take your shitty disc out and a lot of these guys are experiencing like crazy pain,

like elbow pain, atrophy of their muscles because their nerves are pinched. They put this disc in, instant relief. Then I know some other people that have done it and they're still struggling. What do you think about the reaction to it when people were kind of cheering? It was wild, but it's to be expected.

There's this anti-corporate sentiment in this country. This is anti-capitalism sentiment in this country. This is at the root of like when a lot of it coincides with like the free Palestine people, the BLM people. There's a lot of sentiment in this country. There's a mentality to attack corporations and attack capitalism. And so when someone made a tattoo of this cat.

Did they? They took. The healthcare industry seems like the most depraved industry. It's very depraved. Like if you're gonna get angry at an industry, it seems like the healthcare industry does fuck over the most people

and incentivizes companies to deny care and Put profits over humanity. Yeah, so that that as a target for rage makes a lot of sense But I also don't think you could have a society where people just go around shooting people in the head. No, you can't have that No, it's not as a society that's not going to work. I'm also gonna DJ me, I found it. But it's also one of those things where it's like you feel cool saying it. Like when when Trump didn't die and people like you shouldn't have missed, I wish that guy didn't miss.

Do you really mean that? Because like I think it's a thing that people just say. I don't think you really mean that. Because like I think it's a thing that people just say. I don't think you really mean that I don't think you want someone to get assassinated even if you don't like them. That's crazy There's too much. It's crazy to say. Loose talk With regard to subjects like that where people say things. Hit the volume. Oh He has face tats. Yeah, but listen to what it's saying Hilarious And he's got the caduceus on his neck. So he's got the pharmaceutical symbol on his neck and someone took a photo of that guy. So much of this is that he's an attractive guy.

He's a hot guy. Very hot. If he wasn't, then... Six pack. He was, you know, that I think is, and he was from a rich family, and that I think, as a hero, as a folk hero, there's a romantic quality to that. There's a little bit of that, especially if he was justified in what he did.

You know, like if he himself had a story. Yeah, I don't know if he does, and that's interesting, because people have not been able to identify whether he personally, other than his back problem There was a woman that I was watching in a video today where she was testifying that She denied someone she was working for an insurance company. She denied someone medical care and she was rewarded for it and the person wind up dying and she said she went on to get a Better job and I make a lot of money and she was confessing

and she was talking about it and she was saying that you know she feels great guilt that this was just a part of the culture and a part of the job and she was told she did a good job by saving the company money and it was just about saving the company money and they could have provided life-saving health care to this person if they approved that It would have been expensive the person would have lived and she would have probably not been able to get a better job Which is really this is the one industry in which You know the capitalist philosophy is Challenged in in a way that makes the most sense to me because when you have a two-year-old who's born with

a tumor or a condition and that child has not existed on earth long enough to even know what's going on and his parents don't have the resources to help that child, the idea that we, being such a wealthy country, wouldn't provide care or that that that family would have to go bankrupt or lose their house just to try to keep their kid alive does seem terrible. It's insane.

Yeah, it's insane that we look, I'm not for socialized medicine. I don't I don't think that that's the best way to do it because I think you want to incentivize people to be the very best at what they do. And a lot of these badass motherfucking heart surgeons, these badass motherfucking brain surgeons, they wanna drive Porsches. They wanna live in a big house, this guy's awesome,

he's the best at what he does. All the fucking New York Jets go to him when they wanna get their knees done. I like those guys. Those guys are important. It's important, and gals, I'm not trying to be sexist. Whoever the fuck is the best at what they do, I want those people to be rewarded for it. However, I think that when it comes to healthcare, if we can spend $175 billion on Ukraine, I think we

can provide a safety net for the low incomeincome and middle-income people that would get bankrupted by medical bills that are impossible for them to ever pay. You break a leg and you don't have a health insurance, you get hit with a $300,000 bill or whatever it's going to cost. How the fuck? You can't even work for like a year. How long does it take to heal a fucking broken thigh bone? What's another reason you need to have an immigration policy that makes sense?

Because if you're gonna provide those types of services to people, we agree that we should, it has to- You can't just let anybody in. You can't let anyone in. It has to be for a citizen, and there has to be a social contract between a citizen and a government.

That's the entire basis of a nation. Well, front just- You don't have that, it's a problem. But let's, I mean, that's's definitely true but let's just say just the citizens just the citizens most citizens are fucked if something really goes wrong right and that shouldn't be the case that doesn't have to be the case right if they could print up all this fucking money and send it all over the place for all sorts of different things they can most certainly provide a

national safety net for people. And you know, it could be a thing, like, we all accept that there are certain things where socialism works, right? And I always use this example, and I stole it from somebody else, I can't remember who I stole it from, but it's totally true. The fire department. The fire department is a great example of socialism, right? We all agree that you should put out the fucking fire and we don't want your house to burn down

because you don't have any money because then it's gonna burn my house too and everybody else's house so we all chip in the fire department gets paid it's not like they call you you know or you call them rather and say your house is on fire and they say oh mr. Dillon you don't have fire insurance we can't send a firetruck no every the fire trucks there for everybody, right? It's a good example of like necessary social sure So there's some things that are good socially and I think that the word socialism is the problem It's like it should be a part of the community assets, right police. Yeah

Education it should be paid for by the people It shouldn't only be like you have to be rich to get a private education Yes, otherwise, you're fucked most is the case. Yeah, most countries that people call socialist are actually Capitalist countries they have generous welfare states, but they also have a ton of private industry some of them like Norway and stuff have a lot of oil wealth and They have they don't have a Marxist like complete you know where like there is no private property right and no private industry right that's not nowhere works like nowhere is gonna work and you get like

that you get dictators and a lot of those smaller socialist countries work and are easy because they're the populations are relatively homogeneous and they share the same values and they want the same things. And they're pretty small. And they're small. It's nothing like the United States. No, if you have six million people and they all look like they're related and they all believe in one culture and that culture is not about standing out or making lots of money or being innovative.

It's about some simple things and there's nothing wrong with that. It's much easier to have a socialist country than it is to have a country with 300 million people where you have religions from all over the world and different cultures and different values and people that want different things. That's a much tougher country to have that policy. And it gets really fucking cold in the winter,

which kills all the homeless people. And that's a great idea. You can't camp out. You can camp out in LA all year round. Oh, you can't. All year round. Obviously, people do it. They live for years out there in those tents.

They have communities. They're huge. Huge communities of people living in tents. Try that shit on us. It does seem to be like we're heading to a direction where we're gonna need either a universal basic income. Yeah. There has to be some, because AI's coming,

automation's here, the Waymo cars go by. You're seeing all of this going, what are these people gonna do? What are the gig economy people gonna do? They deliver DoorDash, they work, they work at the front desk at a hotel, they're one of the last remaining bank tellers. They work at a fast, casual food restaurant.

Those people's jobs seem to be hours away from being gone. Yep, 100%. Yeah, I don't think there's any way around it. And I think for those people, this whole idea of them finding a new thing to do, some people just aren't designed that way. And they're 50. So their whole life of them finding a new thing to do some people just aren't design that way and they're 50 Right. So their whole life they've been you know serving drinks to people and all of a sudden that goes away right if you if you get to a point where

50% of the jobs that are available right now don't exist anymore Like we are all the manager of blockbuster video, right? That's not outside of the realm of possibility because most of these jobs didn't exist 200 years ago That's not outside of the realm of possibility because most of these jobs didn't exist 200 years ago The idea that some new groundbreaking technology would eliminate the need for manual labor across You know pretty much every industry you can imagine Especially cars like if they can figure out the autonomous driving car thing and they're pretty good at it I was watching a video where these ladies went to the airport and one of those Waymo things Yeah, seem fucking normal, right?

They were just complaining the seat belts were too small But other than that you're sitting in the back seat and I guess the seat belts lock in on you. Yeah, but It works. It works the the fucking driverless car I photographed one the other day or video it on my Instagram driving around Austin Jaguar. Yeah, just driving around They work. So if that's the 2024 version of that thing, what's the what's the 2028 version like right? What is the Tesla look like in 2030? You can download an app now and I think it's Hilton or one of these hotels and open the door to your room with a with a QR code and never see a person.

Not go to a front desk, not check in, everything's digital. You go in, you can order food to your room on an app. I mean, you don't have to pick up a phone and call room service. You don't have to Show your you're eliminating so many jobs mmm that and listen high-end hotels where people want more service and They're able to pay for it will kind of keep those positions But if your kids got a fucking soccer game and you're going to Tulsa and you just want to It makes so much sense at the world ago. Yeah, we're all booked

Scan get in the rooms. Yeah, we don't need anything here and You could run an entire hotel with almost nobody Couple of security guards maybe one manager like not only that but if they can use fighter jets and they have autonomous fighter jets that beat all the regular fighter jet pilots in Simulated combat a hundred percent of the time. Why wouldn't they have that for flights, right? You probably don't need pilots anymore, right if that thing knows how to take off and knows how to land You know I can summon my car, you know, I can summon my car That's crazy

Like if I'm in a parking lot And I want my car to come to the front if I park back there. I can summon it. Yeah, it'll come to get me That's crazy. That's nuts, and then I can press the address, and I'll say take me home But it just takes me home right full navigation stops at red lights puts its blinker on when it changes lanes Recognizes where traffic is goes around it Right. Yeah, we're so close to not needing drivers and then that's gonna be great for the government They could just shut your fucking car down, you know And all the rebels are gonna have like old Ford pickup trucks and shit carburetors right as you're gonna like that's what Tucker drives You ever see Tucker's car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he drives. Oh, no navigation right GPS. No nothing, right?

I never send him like Instagram stories or something. He doesn't have it. No, he doesn't look at any that stuff He doesn't sound like cool. It's the way to do it. It's the way to do I'm pretty close to that He doesn't know who the Costco family is Yeah I mean I'm not close to that because I do go on Instagram a lot and I really like to go on YouTube YouTube's my there's Something about being a comic you want to see what's going on on Well, it's also like YouTube for me is a nice escape Yeah I get to watch a video about an ancient civilization or watch a guy go hunt bucks in the forest or watch, you know

Yeah, a professional pool game right to me. It's like just entertainment and right but the social media thing man I just think most people are not cut out for it. I think it's bad for you I think it makes you think you're in conflict all the time. Everybody's always arguing about stuff. People are dunking on each other. I think it accentuates mental illness. I've known people that I'm friends with, and I can't even talk to them anymore

because of their tweets. Australia just banned social media for kids under 16. Whoa. That would be a problem in my house. They're done. They go, we're not doing it anymore. Wow. They said problem in my house. They're done. They go, we're not doing it anymore. Wow.

They said increase in mental health issues, increase in depression, increase in, you know, I believe suicide and things like that. Like they're going to just use that as an excuse to go door to door. We've heard your child's been tip talking. We'd like to have him come out here and bring the phone. I'd have a word with out here and bring the phone. I do think that's probably a good idea overall. Sort of. I think everybody's got to adapt and you just got to develop discipline and you got to develop the ability to recognize you're drinking too much. You drink, Bob, you're drinking seven drinks a night, that's too much. Okay, I own a

bar, I don't drink every night. You know, you don't have to be on that fucking thing all the time, but Bob Bob wants those seven drinks There's a lot of morons. Yeah, you're always gonna have that just like you're always gonna have people that do stupid shit It's just a part of being a human being and part of being a human being is learning from other people doing stupid shit And I like to think that social media is exactly like everything else in life. When I see people doing things that resonate with me, like, oh, that seems crazy. Like, why are you arguing all the time? Like, what kind of life is that?

How can you be happy? Is like the budget that much of a concern for you that you're fucking screaming about it eight hours a day? Is that really your life or is this bad for you? And just go, okay, listen, don't do that. Oh, that guy's doing coke every night, and now he lost his job, and he's fucking... Don't do that.

Don't do that. Oh, this guy is fucking driving drunk every night, and now he killed a family. Oh, don't do that. Yeah, it's like people have to do awful things around you so that you realize the consequences of awful things. You know, it's like when I was in high school, this kid that I knew killed his friend

in a drunk driving accident. And I remember running into him on the street, like maybe 10 months later, and I ran into him, and I said, hey man, what's up? He's like, just like, just looking down on the ground, just deep shame, horrible feeling. And I remember thinking at that time, fuck driving drunk, man.

Fuck that. That's so bad. It's so dangerous to be hammered on the road and kill your friend. Oh. Right. And so many people have gotten away with it. So many people have driven drunk and gotten away with it.

It's just, you know, when you have a, like drinking is such a weird thing because you go to a place to drink. How'd you get there? How'd you get there? Are you Ubering? Most kids today are Ubering, which is really wise. You know, they're smart.

We're drinking, we're gonna go Uber. But old school people never Ubered. No, they drove. They drove. And they drove hammered. You know, and it's trying to tell someone not to drive when they're drunk is one of the most Frustrating and also scary things right because you're like this motherfucker is hammered and they're about to just get on the road

And they're about to go and potentially hurt themselves and hurt other people I remember we were in Malibu once and this fucking guy and his friend were like play fighting and they started throwing water bottles At each other and everybody got upset It was like a tense moment You're like these guys were out of control one guy was clearly hammered and then his car pulled up and he just got in And drove off Right like that guy is sauced. It's crazy sauced and he was on the PCH, which is like the most deadly highway It's terrible. It's a terrible I will live there and you know

They have all those houses right on the beach and then like they back out crazy people die every year Just people just pull plow into them There's so many people that are on their phone and they don't pay attention and they look down to grip grab something Lipstick or something and then boom Yeah, going 50 miles an hour into someone's Jaguar. It's crazy. It's a terrible place to drive. That road kills a lot of people every year. Isn't that where Caitlyn Jenner,

before she was Caitlyn, whacked that way? That's where she killed that woman. Yeah, a lot of people die on that road. It's a sketchy road and people drive fast. And it's, you know. Gotta be careful. It's on the coast too, which is a distraction. Oh, look at all the beautiful oceans.

It's pretty, you're looking at the water and then all of a sudden, you know. And that's one of the worst things in the world, I think is the level of distraction Out there. Oh, yeah, especially with phones How many times you've been on the highway crazy see someone weaving it out of lanes and look down they're texting while they're driving It's terrifying that you've got kids out there, old people, regular people, everybody's on these phones,

driving at 100 miles an hour. The best thing ever is CarPlay. I've never used the Android CarPlay, but I use Apple CarPlay all the time. It's fucking great. You can talk to it. You never have to take your hand off. Hey Siri, text Tim Dillon.

Play a song. Who would you like to say? Yeah, hey Siri, play this right fucking works great Yeah, obviously it's listening to 24 7 for you. So you're serious So you're saying you said that are maybe unfortunate tell the orb what I said Tell me what's really just a star so you're not you're not you're you're not freaked You're like you're like we're it's just what it is We're just got a good deal with whatever it is, whether it's an alien invasion or a war

of the worlds. I certainly could get freaked out if I wanted to. I know. Sometimes I get freaked, but then I've got to realize it's just, there's nothing you can really do about it. You have to enjoy your life. There's nothing. There's nothing you can do.

Yeah. You know, there's some people like Ryan Graves, he's got some UAP investigation thing they're doing. They think that they can find out what these things are, find out where they're coming from, and get answers, great, I'm glad, but right now, I don't have any answers, so I can't freak out. Do you think Elon knows? If he knows he's not saying shit.

Right. That's very odd that he hasn't commented on the drones. He's not saying anything. Not a peep, publicly. And I think because, like, if it is something super serious with national security he can't he can't right? He's got um Contracts the Defense Department right me he makes SpaceX makes rockets He can't can't talk crazy of course not about that right and if you if he didn't though

Oh, he'd be the guy to talk to like what do you think's going on here? Like how how are these things able to, what is the least theoretical technology that would allow them to hover for five hours in the sky and not give off a heat signature? What would be the thing that would allow them to shut their lights off when incoming jets are trying to find them? Well that's why he's the most interesting guy to hear talk about it because he knows the most about this stuff as a public person that could analyze it. He's an engineer.

He's an actual engineer. Right. And then just kind of go, hey, this is what's happening and how it's happening. Well, this is where you could show, where you could see how crazy people are today when they mock his intelligence. Yeah. You don't have to agree with him. You don't have to like him.

But to say he's an idiot, I mean, you can't say he's an idiot. I've heard he's a dumb person's version of a smart person. I'm like, what is your version? Because you have such high standards. It's like, you know, one of those guys that sees like the hottest woman in the world and like, Pfft, he's a circs. It's like Trump isn't funny. What are you talking about?

Of course he's funny. Like, I think part of the problem is people can't understand this duality, like, not agreeing with someone, but also, you know, acknowledging that they have an appeal or that they're intelligent or that they're funny or that they're whatever it is. And to me, I think true maturity is if you don't like someone still Recognizing that that person has value even though you personally are repulsed by them. Yes Yes, be objective be objective and don't be ridiculous Yeah And there's a lot of people that are just ridiculous and they just they have a narrative in their head and they want to run

With it no matter what have you seen the Controversy about miss France no, okay, is it a dude no no luckily right well I was I'm shocked it's not I'm like that what I could see how you'd be upset Yeah, I'm that one sure, but no it's a black lady. Oh, and they're compared Yep, and they're comparing her to these other women the problem is she's fucking beautiful, right? She's not as hot as Brigitte Macron She's really beautiful like and they're trying to find like photos of her where she's like crying or some weird angle And is it just racism? They're just pissed

I think it's a thing where you're pushing back against DEI so much that you see it even in places where you go where it's Not there. Well, what is a beauty pageant in the first place right there's a bunch of things they judge you on they judge you on yeah I think you have to give a speech right right you have interests yes skills yes there's a bunch of different things and then it's what you look like right so the question and answer portion if you have all those things but you look like shit I get it because it's supposed to be a beauty pageant I get it but if you have those things and you're beautiful and you're upset because it's supposed to be a beauty pageant. I get it but if you have those things and you're beautiful and

You're upset because it doesn't represent France because it's white well a lot of black people live in France Like this is France is not really right a completely white country like there's citizens I'm supposed to have DEI is to exist. Let's have it in beauty pageants We'll see what I don't want it in the cockpit of being that she's 34 Well, that is disgusting. That's just too old. They changed the age two years ago to allow women over 24. Well, that is okay The way that is disgusting. Okay, but that's crazy. Show what she looks like. I just typed in miss France That's all just give me give me some images of what she looks like She's very pretty she's fucking beautiful. Yeah, and if you see her on stage, she looks like. She's very pretty. She's fucking beautiful. Yeah. And

if you see her on stage, she looks fantastic. Like if you see her when she won, the idea that this lady is not capable of winning a beauty pageant anywhere in the world is crazy. If you're just judging on beauty, there's different types of beauty. There's redheaded white freckle beauty. Right. There's Brazilian hot tan beauty. There's Asian beauty right there's Brazilian hot tan beauty Asian beauty there's all kinds of different beauty that woman's fucking beautiful There's a it's reactionary stuff where people are just angry at this concept Well the thing is there have been a bunch of instances of people winning these Contests that were ridiculous some of them that were men some of them were they obese some of them that weren't pretty and I could see Push him but now it's like people are looking to push back wherever they can because there are people people tend to you know

Become accustomed to outrage. They're gonna be average, but this is one where you like come on No, it's enough for you. Don't think that lady could win. That's crazy should yes She can fucking win, but not a 34, but she's still hot no She's still hot well. Why is there a age limit by 34? You should have a kid you should have your shit together not being a beauty pageant. I guess you can see that argument I mean at 34 years old um I Think you've only got like four years left of kids as a woman at 34 years old. I think you should be put in a facility Four years left of kids as a woman at 34 years old. I think you should be put in a facility

Like a horse yeah, so I think that's what the problem is I think this woman will be out there Women are hot pretty late these days. No, it's it's a hot. I think you made you made a great point about like It's just people looking to be upset about things and like I said DEI and a beauty pageant. I get it It is what it is. Whatever. Yeah, but that that's not DEI But even if like even if there was an example of DEI DEI bothers me like if they're like Hey, we want diverse pilots and you go dude. What the fuck is wrong with you? Beauty pageants are somewhat meaningless, even though they're not completely meaningless. I'm scared when they're like, we need diverse surgeons. And I go, no, no, no, no, no.

You need good surgeons. Only. You need good surgeons. Yeah. I don't care what my surgeon looks like if they're good. I've never in my life said, I want an Irish surgeon. Yeah. I'm Irish.

My grandfather came from Ireland. I've never said, you know what would be good if a guy named Maliki or Rory operated on me if I needed surgery. I like a guy with men in his last name, like his Gettleman. Yeah, I want a Jew, I want a Pakistani or an Asian. That's it, I don't really want like a fun surgeon.

No, you want him walked in. I don't want like a wordsmith. I want like a, like we had a bad flight, me and Sam Talent, we left them? Yeah, I want like a wordsmith, right? I want like a like we had a bad flight me and Sam talent. We left Amsterdam 35 minutes It's a private plane going to Luton, which is an airport near London Not in London, but near it and the pilot said it's a little windy in London 30 of the 35 minutes were absolutely fine when he hit about 3,000 feet something happened and it was not good We got about 700 feet and we're like me and Sam Talon like where the fuck's the runway? To the right we saw the runway perpendicular to the plane not good

The pilot tried to you know get the plane in you see him on the controls And we felt a gust of wind and the pilot was like fuck it. You heard him say fuck it, you know Boom we went back up. Oh! Go around through like a bad storm and then we had to land in Birmingham and the landing at Birmingham was very tough too because the weather was degenerating.

Now, but you had two French pilots that were in great shape and didn't say anything and they were just like AI machines and you had a Russian flight attendant. And to her, life and death have no meaning, it makes no difference. It's no difference. So she sits, says nothing, no expression on her face,

and these two pilots, and in that moment, you want the most skilled person for the job. You are not thinking about anything else. You're not thinking about were they raised rich? How easy was it for them to go to flight school? Did their parents pay for their flights? All you're thinking about is God get this plane on the ground. And that's where DEI, to me, is the most insane and dangerous,

is when you start taking real important jobs and talking about shit no one gives a fuck about. When you're on a plane like that, you don't give a fuck if it was two white pilots, black pilots. I don't give a shit who it is, as long as they are really good at flying this fucking plane. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it That's how it's supposed to be with everything

It's just a it's just how things go one way and and people recognize this the wrong way And then right now that's the overcorrection The correction is equality. I had an overweight woman pilot once and I went I don't like it I don't want me in that thing. I don't want to fly and I didn't want an overweight woman pilot once and I went I don't like it. I don't want me in that thing I don't want to fly and I didn't want this overweight woman Sorry not to her but She's like a chubby woman and she like barely fit in this and she's like in that she's like moving the thing and I'm like

What is happening now? We didn't die But I didn't love that. I want someone in the cockpit who's svelte and in really good shape and doesn't have a personality. I don't want pilots to have a personality. Pilots should be very similar to machines. You ever heard Rollins talk about this? No.

You know he does those spoken word things, he talks about what he wants in a pilot. Right. He wants the steel blue eyes does those spoken word things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah what he wants in a pilot like right? Steel blue eyes. Yeah, the right stuff look. Yeah high top crew cut like we've had pilots that are too like Friendly and they're just too like they come in the back and like talking to you and you go I don't want that shit on military guys. I want guys that are ex military or whatever it is. Yeah That's really you really want military guys. That's a great point. It's a scary job, man You're piloting a giant metal thing that's flying through the air Ridiculous speeds and then you have to deal with the wind sometimes. Yeah, it's scary

You want you want people that are just? Well, there was a push for that in comedy for a while. In LA, certain clubs would literally have a quota. We have a certain amount of this and a certain amount of that. A lot of people snuck through that shouldn't have been there. And one of the things that we set up at the mothership,

we said, it's just funny. It's just a matter of, because of that. It's very diverse But right but just through merit, right? Just through because there's a bunch of funny people from all walks of life, right? Just find the ones who are good doesn't matter where you from you have to be good You have to gotta work hard. You gotta work hard You'll be trying to do this thing that we're all doing and if you're not if you're trying to make if you're trying to Derive value if you're trying to like get, if you're trying to get attention for something that's unrelated to the art form and everybody else is doing the art form, that creates a

giant problem. And if it's effective, then it's even more of a problem, because then other people start doing it. And then you get claptor. You get this distortion of the art where it's really people that aren't good at it. And so that's why they're trying to find some other way to generate energy some other way to get attention and to get people excited and that way is you know the try through like social causes like I've heard people say like if your comedy is

not a velvet elevating social issues then it's bullshit like that's crazy that's so nuts that's such a nutty thing to say that's like You know if your mood music doesn't make me cry then it's bullshit like no, that's not true well, it's also like everybody became obsessed with like lists and Being on a list and having like a certain amount of people on a list and you go like what kind of lists like any of? These lists that would come out from Rolling Stone or vulture or the top Like any of these lists that would come out from Rolling Stone or Vulture or Variety or any of this. People get really upset and you go,

guys it's not about who gives a fuck. Like being obsessed with that shit and who's on it and who's represented, it doesn't matter, it's not defining. Anyone can have a career now that works hard enough and really wants one and develops the talent. Because we all have this ability to be out there. Also these lists are all curated.

They're all curated. People pay money to get on them. And they get on there because of people's political leanings, they get on ideological leanings. Right. Like when you see, when you go to, here's a good example, you go to YouTube and you see the trending now. Right. Do you know what was you see the trending now, right?

Do you know what was never on the trending now? Right my conversation with Trump, right? It's kind of right. You got a what is it at one point time 1.2 million an hour. Is that what it was? Jim Something like something nutty like that and it wasn't trending. Well, what is trending right? Show me what is trending, right? What kind of use they have right? That's gotta be crazy. Is this videos got 60 million views? So what what views do they have? That's gotta be crazy, because this video's got 60 million views. So what views do they have? Right, right, right. It's insane!

No, it's curated. It's insane, so that's completely curated. So you can't trust that trending now thing, because if it's trending now, first of all, what could be bad about letting a person talk to another person? Whether you're trying to find out who this person is. What could be bad about letting a person talk to another person? Whether you're trying to find out who this person is. What could be bad with that if this guy's about to run for president, whether you like it or not?

What could possibly be bad about that, that you would try to stop it from being in your trending? Is it like when you just interview Donald Trump or you have the name Donald Trump, it can never be trending because they don't want to promote Donald Trump? Well then, what are you doing? Do you have a mandate? Do you have a very specific set of rules that you apply to certain people? Well, that's why I think when he gets in, he's talked about kind of a cyber or whatever

bill of rights, like this idea that you would not be able to be discarded by these companies without some type of recourse. And I think a lot of people hate that. Well, it's just crazy that the right, what they think of as the far right, which is Trump, is pro freedom of speech and trying to promote that on the internet. But the reason for that, selfishly, you could say, is because political people from the right were silenced for a long time, or at least censored on Twitter

for a long time. For sure. It certainly marginalized and it was dangerous. They could go after you. They would try to get people fired for things. It got pretty sketchy. And then a lot of people got removed from Twitter that were right-wing people, including Trump. I mean, they literally kicked him off of Twitter.

Obviously, for a guy like him who's felt the effect of it being removed from the conversation, remember when he was tweeting constantly and then all of a sudden, silence? Nothing. And then it was like, shoot. And then people, and Gavin McGinnis said this once, I don't want to take his point, but he said when you're removed

Everyone can say anything they want about you. You do not have the ability to defend yourself Exactly, and that's the goal narrative is painted. That was the goal though. That's what they wanted from right? They didn't want him to be able to say hey, it's rig check out this check out that They just wanted to you said that the election was rigged. You're off forever No more talking which is a nutty thing to say if the guy is not in jail If he's not doing something that puts him in jail, and I know he was tried for a bunch of stuff Most of it I think was bullshit. It was a lot of bullshit a lot of bullshit But the reality is if that guy is an American citizen

And he's not doing anything illegal and he used to be the fucking president of the United States, removing him from the internet seems insane. It's insane. Insane, especially when you hear what he really said to those people that were at the Capitol. Do it peacefully. And then when you find out that these, now they said there's at least 26.

FBI agents. Or informants. Informants. Whatever that means. You're working for the FBI right at least 26 There that were there at least that entered The whole thing is nuts. It's nuts Yeah, but also if you had a real insurrection wouldn't you want the FBI to be there? I mean if you had a real group of armed militia that wanted to take over the Capitol,

and they had plans, and they had fucking armored cars, and they had heat style, you would want someone in that group to tell you what the fuck is going on. But that wasn't the case. That was not the case. But you also have photos and videos of people opening the doors of the Capitol. Fist bumping people.

Come on in. Yeah, here, I'll show you where the gavel gets handed. That's very strange. Yeah, the whole thing's nuts. And's also there's people that have been jailed with no trial for years now For years, right and there's this crazy opposition to pardoning those people But no outrage about the people that Biden has pardoned pardoned including that kids for cash judge I sent you that that's crazy fucking Pardoned including that kids for cash judge. I sent you that that's crazy fucking

Crazy that judge and people whose children committed suicide because they were in that prison Have spoken out and said this guy is Directly responsible in their estimation for my son's death because he was Taking bribes to give these kids crazy sentences. And some of these kids develop, you know, crazy psychological problems and took their own lives. So this is- Just imagine if you didn't do anything wrong.

It's evil. And this guy railroads you into a juvenile detention center. It's evil. And then Joe Biden lets him out of jail. Pardons him, commutes a sentence, whatever. So just look at things with balance, folks, for real. Look at things with balance.

None of that makes any sense. And if the left is the side that's telling you that this person should be censored, they're never supposed to be anti-free speech. The ADL was always about it. I mean, there was a famous thing where they let the Nazi or the Ku Klux Klan Have this right rally because they said you can't silence people the hardest thing on the left right now is for them to admit that the people that they have put out as

Spokespeople for them all have to go and that's what no one's admitting No one's admitting the real problem because then they would have to admit that they have to No one's admitting the real problem because then they would have to admit that they have to relinquish their job. They need a reasonable, like Clinton in the 90s type guy. Not only do they need that, they need a media strategy where they don't have the most shrill voices out there. Meaning like they have a lot of people who are very dismissive of other people and they're incredibly annoying

and nobody is receiving that message. And they have to change their strategy. They just have, they have children that are out there, like annoying children, just screaming and yelling, these Biden people, these young guys that are like screaming and yelling about Biden. And it's not based on, and I'm not saying the right doesn't have annoying people,

but like the left, because they lost, have to, they have to build a party around people you don't hate. Yeah. If you're gonna tell me something, I don't wanna to hate you. I don't want to hate the messenger Right. The view is not an effective way Just there were two guys that were put in prison for this The one that was released was already living on house confinement and only had two years left

The other guy is still in prison and will be there. This is the January 6 people know the kids for cash. Oh Yeah, but who can't, number one, honest, yeah. So, he's an evil person. Yeah, he's a clearly. This is a clearly terrible evil person. What exactly are you saying, Jamie? There's two other people that were involved?

The one that was, that had, that Biden had his sentence wiped out, only had less than two years left and was already in home confinement The other guy is still in prison. I see and was not let out but still the guys at home confinement for two years I think he can do another two years in his fucking house He could do another two years in his house or go back to the jail that he put children into yes I mean you should it should be like Jamie is working for I'm just I was confused I was like that's fucked up. Why'd you let the guy? I'm kidding

Yeah, I'm one of them still in jail. You know there's there's a lot of other stuff You know there's people that were Chinese spies that were on that. Yeah, how about his son? That makes sense to me. Well if you have a kid you get it you fucked up You're gonna die you don't want him to go to jail he hates everybody if you had this not only that okay they just ousted you in a coup all right but you're still the president for at least another month and a half of course then even though you said you wouldn't do it once they ousted him into it because all the times of him oust saying that he wasn't going to

pardon his son wasn't he still the president I mean maybe if they let him be the president for a second term, maybe he wouldn't pardon his son. Can you imagine explaining to him the aliens? Because he doesn't know. Someone's got a some in the deep, deep, deep state, like the bowels of the deep state. You haven't heard him talk about the drones? No, please. Do you have it? Wonderful. See if you can find it. Biden addresses the drones. It is. Someone's going to sit him down and they're like in a black suit and they're like, hey, you're going to have to tell the country that there's aliens. He's a guy where you grab his hair, where he's asleep on the park bench

and you lift his head up and he starts talking. Right. That's him right now. I know. That's so bad. Well, there's only one. One that's ours. Basically ours. Watch this. I mean, it's so bad It's so bad that this is the guy that we have Right now while this is happening This is the guy who's communicating whatever is happening to us all I can imagine is the people that are running this

Yeah, I'm letting them do this now like get him out there get him out for fun about let's see what he says I already lost. You know what it is. It's they're like if if we need to confuse people about what is happening, he's the guy. Did you find it anywhere, Jamie? Very confused of him. It seems like he talked about it in the dark with a hat on, but everything starts showing him at a podium. Oh, this is great. Yeah, he was in the dark with a hat on.

The dark with a hat is perfect. Yeah, this is it. This is it. He looks dead. Listen. Listen. There's really nothing alarming about this. I believe you, buddy.

There's nothing to fear, apparently. There's really nothing alarming about this. I believe you buddy Yes, there's just one propaganda people We're following the huge quote. So far, no sense of a danger. So let's bring in CBS. There's just one drone. Look at these propaganda people. That's all propaganda. Trump, on the other hand, says the military knows what the drones are. Mr. Biden, though, doesn't seem to have that ominous tone. So how do we square that, and what do you know today? Yeah, well, I think both of those things can be true. I think both sides are saying that

the military does in fact have an idea or, you know, the semblance of an idea of where these drones are coming from. You know, we had a joint statement that came out from the FAA, the FBI, the DHS, the Pentagon saying that a lot of these sightings are actually manned aircrafts or other things that are floating in the sky that are perfectly non-threatening and perfectly mundane. They said there was nothing anomalous coming out of their reports. Now we... Keep going.

Yeah, no, that's enough. This sounds like a snippet right before in an alien invasion movie. Absolutely. Like a bunch of people saying it's not nefarious Nothing to worry about you got an ancient president It's like yes, just started off with one and everybody else wanted to get in on the deal. Oh crazy He goes itch. I think it's just one They don't tell him nothing you're being reported all over the country, but what do they even tell they tell him nothing

These are reports about how the people working with them knew he was compromised like right away Oh, they know how it kept getting worse and worse and worse and they all hit it that seems Like that should be illegal. It should be illegal to lie about that. Just like it's illegal to lie under oath It should be a legal to lie seal the mental decline of the It should be illegal to lie. It should be illegal to conceal the mental decline of the leader of the free world. Not just conceal, but be deceptive in the way you're describing it,

like he's sharp as a tack. Yeah, I mean, this is just. It looks great. I mean, the photo. He's chilling, he's on TikTok right there. He's eating donuts. To get us to our TikTok channel, we just eat donuts. How the White House functioned with a diminish. By a diminished a diminish By diminish Biden and diminish is a fun word

It's because it could be like 99% diminished or it could be 10% diminished. It could be hungover or you could be almost dead Well, I think the other thing too is like nobody's nobody's fully Understands who's running the country at the moment. No, I've described it like Tesla with auto drive. You like you have your hands near the steering wheel. So yes, thing going to do this. Nobody there's no authority that we're all you know.

Obviously, the president is not the only authority. We all know that. But it's the first time ever where the guy who's the president is incapacitated, incapacitated like completely. And we're just we're looking at him like he's just a couple steps away from Carter, right? I remember Carter when they said Carter's so excited to vote for Biden, right? And he was like, right it was crazy. No, he was gonna vote for Harris. That's right It was by the time laying out there in the Sun. He didn't know he was alive. His mouth was wide open

It's so sad. It's so sad to watch that They're saying he's so excited to vote for Kamala Harris. Like, can I hear him say that? Yeah. Can you look at that? Can you tell me what he said? Oh my god. I mean, that is so crazy.

Did you ever hear Hunter S. Thompson's recordings where he talked about, he wrote about it too, but I think it's in one of his documentaries. It might have been the Gonzo documentary, but he talked about how he heard Jimmy Carter, he'd basically after the last Nixon election, he'd kind of given up on politics, like, fuck this, this is all bullshit and he was hired to go to listen to Carter speak and as he was listening to Carter speak, he ran out to his car and got his tape recorder. He said, because this guy was making so much sense,

and he was saying, like, Jimmy Carter was a beautiful president. He was like, he was one of the only presidents where you're like, wow, this is like a kind, peaceful man. He built houses afterwards. Yeah, never got rich, never got rich. He was one of the only presidents that after his life, he lived very simply.

He never, never did the speaking gig thing where you're making quarter million dollars talk to bankers. He didn't do any of that shit, right and See if you can find that like Hunter S Thompson on Jimmy Carter. Yeah, you got here it is for me The other two were Muhammad Ali and Sonny Barger the president of the Hells Angels. Those three men are a whole cut above everybody else I've ever run into in terms of sheer functional meanness. Functional meanness? Yeah. Well, meaning the ability to get from A to either B, C, M, Z, whatever you want. Either B, C, M, Z, whatever you want. Carter would cut my head off to carry North Dakota.

Cut both your legs off to carry a ward in the Bronx. Never apologized for it. He understands the system. That's why he won. That's really all I said. I admired that. A person who played the game as well as he did, and in a sort of, I don't know, magnolius shade that he'd played in for a while. He was perceived as sort of a southern dingbat.

But I saw him push Teddy Kennedy around down in Athens and Atlanta. I'd never seen Kennedy pushed around anywhere, in any room, and I was stunned. And I thought, oh, this was 1974. I thought, whoops, this is a bad one. We have to watch him. And sure enough, he announced he was going to run for president. I was thinking four or five months later. When he did, I thought, that's when I went back down to see him.

I thought I should go talk to this man.'re were you as an impressed by his references to Bob Dylan and things as you appeared to be or were you doing? another little bit of Ibogaine writing No, what he did in that speech that I constantly referred to in the article I'm not even much, you know, which Rollins did not run which left me hanging out in some hideous slum which did not run, which left me hanging out in some hideous slum, was just laid a whip and a serious whip song with all these lawyers at the Law Day alumni speech. And this wasn't just the alumni of the University of Georgia Law School, it was the distinguished alumni, Dean Rusk,

Alton State senators, judges, and he just beat the hell out of them. He'd been governor for three and a half years, and they'd given him a hard time. The whole establishment had been against him, and he stomped on them in public. I'd never seen a politician do that before. And he just pushed Teddy aside, and they're like, oh, out of the way. You know, I've got work to do, move aside.

And Kennedy was stunned. I was stunned. I don't tape politician's speeches normally, but about 10 minutes into it I went to the car and got my tape recorder because I thought I'd never heard anything like this in my life And I still haven't from Carter either. But what you're impressed by is the toughness and the naked He will eat your shoulder right off if he Has your mind have you changed your

Original impressions of him since he came to power since he became president? No, that's what I said. He was gonna do it. That's what he's doing he's just eating Russian shoulders right now instead of Humphreys Wow, that's very different than the way they portrayed it in the documentary in the documentary They yeah all that ruthlessness part out. Well, he's a president who's got to be ruthless but I do think Carter but seem to believe in things that seem to have a Constitution speech he gave it's called a message on justice You can look it up. It's on this library's website in the documentary. It's much more

Favorable. Yeah the way hunters talking about it that he was excited by him and so I'm quoting Bob Dylan Yeah, that's interesting that I guess if you're gonna be the fucking president you probably I bet Kamala Harris is ruthless She's incredibly ruthless. I think you have to be How far she got yeah with very little yeah, you gotta be ambitious You have to be so ambitious and it's impressive to me how close She got to the presidency without any discernible intellect, really, truly. Like she didn't display any, I mean, listen,

if you said she was a lawyer, great. If you said she was a manager, a mid If you said she was a manager, mid-level company, sure. That's all fine. She was, you know, again, she's, you know, it was fine. It was all okay. There's no like discernible intellect that you would think the president would have. And say what you want about Trump. People like them. They don't like them. He has Instincts

That are somewhat unmatched in the political arena. He's able to Speak extemporaneously for hours at a time. He's Passionate about things he has lived a rich life and understands the facets of things and human beings and whatever. And you know, again, it's presented in a much different way than it's been presented, right? He doesn't speak like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama or anything like that. But like, he clearly is someone who possesses an incredible amount of political talent and skill.

No one disagrees with that. Kamala Harris was an incredibly average, mediocre politician. And if you said she was the DA of San Francisco or, you know, local position, but the fact that she got very close to the presidency, she has to be a ruthless, ambitious operator. And there is something impressive about that. Yeah, I mean, that's the business. She has to be a ruthless, ambitious operator.

And there is something impressive about that. Yeah, I mean, that's the business. If you wanna succeed in that business, that's what you gotta do. If you wanna succeed in TikTok, you go to Costco, you make songs. I know. You should hold up a cookie. I know, but you know what?

Maybe the aliens are here to fix it. Thank you very much for doing this. I know this is your day off. My pleasure, bro. No, listen, I love you. I'm always happy to help. I'm always happy to be on your show. Thank you for letting me do the special. Thank you for saving it. It's gonna rule. No, thank you for saving it. Well, I was glad I could. It's nice to be able to do that and the people were cool.

They did it all. I was that first show I prayed you left. I said, God, I hope he's gone. We fixed it. We fixed it. Where were you watching from? The green room or the balcony? Oh, yeah. Oh, oh. I was praying. I said, maybe he left. You know, five minutes in, I go, maybe he left.

I go, he's probably, I go, he's probably got a lot to do. He's probably running around. I'm just happy you were doing four so we could fix it. Yeah, we did. We fixed it. Thank you. Kim, I love you to death. Love you too. Appreciate it. Thank you, buddy. Bye.