The Unmade Podcast - 101: The 100 Best Things in the World (Part 2)

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

Tim and Brady complete their list of the 100 best things in all the world. Catch Part 1 - https://www.unmade.fm/episodes/episode100 Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to hover....com/unmade - https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/rg48jf Catch the podcast on YouTube - https://youtu.be/uNKnEGFFTg0 USEFUL LINKS Shine Like Stars variant - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUiOIG-n1vc D minor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_minor Wattle - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_pycnantha Edelweiss - song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu-lcwhZcEs The Office Christmas Special - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_Christmas_specials Find the River - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIJGlTu5sEI Ultimate Machine - https://amzn.to/321ouCw Perfect Circle - book - https://amzn.to/3ENMh7E Foundation series - https://amzn.to/3oSoE8E Three Body series - https://amzn.to/3e3pkSp Donate to Wikipedia - https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give Valley of the Kings - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_Kings Biscoff Spread - https://amzn.to/3yozXbN Brothers in Arms - https://amzn.to/3oPO46u The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole - https://amzn.to/3oPO46u Morrissey - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey Catch some of Tim's sermons - https://www.malvernuc.com/sermons About a Boy - https://amzn.to/3EUcsJN Disintegration by The Cure - https://amzn.to/3ERpnfJ Epic Split - Volvo ad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10

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Starting point is 00:00:00 all right people no messing around straight into it in the last episode we did the first 50 in our 100 greatest things in the world now it's uh now it's the now it's the next 50 no particular order here so there could be some absolute gems coming or some absolute stinkers depending on your viewpoint depending on whether it's me or you who's sharing our favourite thing. Yes. Tim, have you got any more coffee products or what have you got next on your list? We're through most of the coffee list
Starting point is 00:00:34 and we'll move into other drinks now and food. What have you got? Look, I am going to start with a food and a food that goes well with coffee. Vanilla slice. If I go to a bakery, that's what I'm tempted by. The vanilla slice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Nice. I mean, I love custard pastry, so I love custard tarts and apple and custard tarts. And the vanilla slice is another good one. So I can't begrudge you that. No, no, it's the greatest. How do you have it with the coffee? You just alternate bites of the slice, sips of the coffee? That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Well, how else would I do it? I don't know. You might have some weird custom where you dip it or something. I don't know. Oh, right, okay. Well, it might be two bites and then a sip or a bite and then two sips. It sort of depends on the nature and flow of the conversation. I'm a bit of a wild man, man.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I don't like to sort of pin these things down too tightly. You can't be tamed. No. I like to go in a bakery going, I'm just going to let it flow today. Whatever happens, happens. Coffee, vanilla slice. You could go some kind of Fibonacci sequence where you go 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Fibonacci sequence. On my list next, mountains. I love a good mountain. Mountain? To look at or to climb or what are you talking about there? I'm up for both. I'm happy just admiring mountains as I sit back and eat my vanilla slice or I'm happy having a bit of a wild man day and climbing the mountain.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I just love – I was going to put Mount Everest and I thought, no, there are too many other great mountains that would be left out if I start, you know, naming. I'd end up with like 10 mountains in my list. So I'm just saying mountains in general. I love – I just love them. I love being near them. I love seeing them.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I'd love to live in the mountains do you know what my favorite mountain to pronounce is i'm going to mispronounce it now mount it's kilimanjaro is that if i said that right yes you got it yeah that's a fun word to say isn't it let's be honest it's a good looking mountain that's a good looking mountain too that's a very classic looking mountain i've only flown over it. I've never seen it from the ground, but I have seen it from a plane. It's a good mountain. Love mountains.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Everything about them. Climbing them, looking at them. You know, people often sit around and go, oh, if you didn't do the job you did, what other job would you like to do? And people will say, you know, astronaut or writer and stuff like that. I would love to be a mountaineer. It's a nice thing to have on your passport or, you know, to put mountaineer, like it's actually your vocation, you know.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Yeah, you are the cool person at the dinner party if you're the mountaineer. Yeah, yeah, it's not like a hobby. It's like, oh, no, I'm a full-time mountaineer. Yeah. I get up in the morning, I mountains i come home i summit mountains i conquer peaks what do you do make youtube videos i'm more of a valley man myself i do this i do this podcast where we talk about podcasts that we don't even make while you're climbing mountains. Hey, man, that's a summit in itself.
Starting point is 00:03:46 100 episodes. That's a summit, baby. All right. 101 now. That's right. Next. Next for me. Okay, so I'm going with another U2 moment,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and I don't want to overkill the point, but I have to say this is a particular Moment in a song And it doesn't the song is with or Without you by you too Which is a very well known song on Every FM station in the world But when he sings it live
Starting point is 00:04:17 Every now and then he adds on A little bit at the end like a little Coda that's obviously a little Improvised piece and it's called Shine like stars And you can play a little bit at the end, like a little coda that's obviously a little improvised piece. And it's called Shine Like Stars. And you can play a little bit of it. You can find these all over YouTube, these live versions where he just, Bono the singer, soars into this extra little bit called Shine Like Stars.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And when he does that, I think that's maybe my favourite little moment in rock music. We'll shine like stars in the winter night. that i think that's maybe my favorite little moment in rock music that's just exhilarating it's a lovely little improvised glorious moment at the end of a good song it's not my favorite song but when he does that at the end i love it absolutely love it is it better than when does the does the kiss my ass section in a friends and low places almost that mysterious third verse oh dear next on my list lego oh yes nice nice lego It's particularly space Lego, which I grew up with. Obviously, I grew up calling it space Lego because I'm from Adelaide. But space Lego was my favourite.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But just Lego, just I don't even have time to do Lego anymore. Like I think people know by now I buy lots of Lego. I buy lots of sets and boxes and have them stored in my office. And then I put them into storage because I love Lego sets, even though i don't have time to play with them anymore i just love the idea of it i am a bit disappointed that i feel lego has gone down this path now where most lego construction is just following instructions and not freestyling as much as i prefer but i do love everything about lego you, the design, the play, the look When I was young and you bought a Lego set
Starting point is 00:06:07 You obviously pulled out the instructions and built the thing once But after that, it got dismantled and thrown into the general pile Just to be played with via the imagination It was never again built the way instructions were designed You throw the box and the instructions away That's the way to play with lego i don't remember ever making things by the instructions it was just oh look here's more pieces to throw into the general population it's just more fuel for the fire that's right so i can make my own spaceships but now like everyone makes these things and then they become like these like they put them in a glass case and display them
Starting point is 00:06:42 and that's ridiculous yes anyway what I? Yes. Don't I? Anyway, what do you got next? Oh, well, there's actually a few little musical things. What's going on here? Aren't you just reading off a list? What are you deciding? No, no, no. I just suddenly realised I had a three, like, music, four music-related things in a row.
Starting point is 00:07:03 So I just suddenly went, oh, maybe I should vary it a little bit, or maybe I should just give it to them as they came. Should I do that? Or should I just burn through them? Yeah. Just nice and quick. All right. The D minor chord.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So there's different chords. Just explaining to you now, man, this is my moment to know something. There are different chords, right? Different combinations of notes that are played together. And D minor is my favorite chord. I love the sound of the D minor chord
Starting point is 00:07:30 So if a chord is a combination of notes Yes What are you playing together to make a D minor? That's a combination of what? Oh, gosh, I don't know enough to know the theory off the top of my head. You're playing a D, but then you are moving one note down to a lower note. So it's giving a, it's a slightly,
Starting point is 00:07:55 one part of the chord is lower than the other notes. So it's like it's, it's D and then it's just down a little bit from D. And what do you like about D minor? It just sounds sad. It's got like a lamenting sort of sound to it. And so it's not like a happy, like you play D, it's like happy. And then you play D minor and it's just a bit off. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's just interesting. It has a twist to it. And I like D minor. And lots of my favourite songs and sadder songs are in D minor. It's a beautiful chord. Next for me, Swiss Army Knives. And other kind of multi-tools like Leatherman and stuff like that. I love them.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I love them. I love a good multi-tools like Leatherman and stuff like that. I love them. I love them. I love a good multi-tool. Yes. Unashamed. Beautiful. Yes. What are you laughing at? No, I just love that you thought of it.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Like, that's genius. Yes, of course. It's the sort of thing you go into a shop and you see them there and you go, oh, jeez, I need a few of them. Even though, of course i don't need them at all what have you got have you got one in the in the in the tool bag like have you got a swiss army knife or no i had sort of a multi-tool thing that came with a previous car you know that was more a case of you know it was there and it was like a couple of dollars to go
Starting point is 00:09:21 and i thought oh that'll be handy and of course never used it, just sat in the glove box. But I don't have a true Swiss army knife, no. I'm not a real mountaineer, am I, really? No, you're never going to summer Everest at this rate. You and your D minor. I'd have a good playlist worked out for the trip, though, that's for sure. Which I think is the hardest part, isn't it, surely? Yeah. Getting up Everest is knowing what to play
Starting point is 00:09:46 when you get there what do you got oh look this is another song i said i had a few in a row this is a song called the mercy seat by nick cave so what another one of my favorite artists and he has a song called the mercy seat and a particularly a live version if people want to listen to it the studio version is pretty rubbish another song that evolved over time so there's loads of live versions and i just i really really love it the mercy seat builds and builds next for me waterfalls oh yeah how great are waterfalls whether they're a small little one a huge towering Niagara Falls like waterfalls just excite the soul yes they do yes yeah love a waterfall have you ever been over a waterfall uh I've slid down one there's one in the Gold Coast that's like a big rocky one and I went on a trip and you you get you actually like go down it like it's a
Starting point is 00:10:39 water slide but it's a waterfall so I have gone over a waterfall yes oh nice I've never done it in a barrel over no gravels or anything like that but haven't you oh right no well you haven't lived no no shame we haven't got time to go into my story on that yes um my next is the smell of wattle the smell of wattle you remember wattle do you mean like you mean the yellow wattle. You remember wattle? Do you mean the yellow wattle, the Australian national flower wattle? Yep. I can't think what it smells like. Oh, it smells lovely.
Starting point is 00:11:10 It's a little bit like blossom. There's lots of blossom around the place and around the areas where I live, and they smell beautiful. But generally, they just remind me of wattle. I love the smell of wattle. Next for me, trainers, sneakers. I love wearing them. I love shopping for them. When I was young, I was obviously really into the culture of them, you know, your Nike Air Jordans and that sort of stuff. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:11:37 I've grown out of that, but I still love shopping for them, going through websites or going to the shops. I love the look of a good pair of trainers and they're obviously the most comfy shoes to wear i love trainers i still get excited by a new pair of trainers how can you say that you've grown out of your addiction to the nike air jordans you've you've written a letter to michael jordan within the last year i haven't grown out of it i've bought two pairs of nike air forces in the last i bought a pair and then I bought a second pair because I wanted to have a pair for everyday wear and a nice pair for going out. I am turning a little bit into that guy with sneakers. I need to make sure I don't go too far down this path. Do you have a display case for your sneakers or like a special rack or anything or? Not yet. No, but I'm getting a bit into them at the moment. I need to, I need to rein this in, but I do love them.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I bought a pair of sneakers last week. They are Adidas. I'm a more Adidas person and they're Ultra Boosts, which are the, again, I've talked about this before, the wonderful combination of looking pretty cool, but with lots of support for the middle-aged man. So that's what I find very enticing about them. Do you ever preach in sneakers? Like, you know, to show that you're hip?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Or do you dress up a bit more for that? Not on Sunday mornings, no. I dress a little bit more for that by wearing another thing on my list. Oh, well, we'll wait and see. I look forward to it. Yes. We'll get to that. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:00 What do you got next? My next musical one is Edelweiss. This is a song in the sound of music and i love it it's not unique to sound in music though is it it's like a sort of a national song isn't it of austria or switzerland or something or was it written just for the musical i thought it was like a traditional song well the the concept of the edelweiss being the flower that the lover goes and gets high up on the mountain for the girl is quite traditional. But I thought I looked this up. I thought I Wikipedia'd this a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:13:32 It was written for. You're right. It is. It's just a show tune from Sound of Music. Yeah. Rodgers and Hammerstein. You're quite right. Small and white, clean and bright.
Starting point is 00:13:46 It is a lovely song. Colonel Von Trapp sings it, doesn't he? Yeah, yeah. My wife and I were just singing it the other day. What, together, like in a show? No, it just came up and we were singing it. Because we watch Sound of Music quite a lot. She loves Sound of Music, so we watch it a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And that's one of the ones we sometimes will sing. We often will just break into a sound of music tune. It's not that you were just like leaving town at night to escape the Nazis and got forced to suddenly sing it at a show and you hadn't prepared, managed to pull it out anyway. No, no, no. It was a much more jovial situation. Next on my list is a song you'll be pleased to know. Oh, nice. The Star Wars Anthem by John Williams. Ah. Because it's so iconic. And every time you go and see a Star Wars film, even though you know you're going to be disappointed
Starting point is 00:14:35 by how crap the new Star Wars films are and you know you're about to have your childhood besmirched yet again, you cannot help but be excited in that first moment when it just goes bang and the music starts playing really loud and you see the star wars logo and that music's playing you're just filled with hope once more like this is going to be an amazing film and you feel so happy that that song emotes it yes it does it's full of promise isn't it it's it's both promise and reminder it's like here remember this was awesome and here is more of it that should be the words
Starting point is 00:15:12 there's gonna be heaps of lightsabers remember last time here we go x wings here come the x wings absolutely love it X wings, here come the X wings Absolutely Love it Marmalade Next on my list is marmalade Oh, no, no What? Don't like marmalade
Starting point is 00:15:37 Don't like marmalade at all That's the first one you've said that I actually proactively dislike This is a jam or as they in america you know it is jelly so you put it on your toast and it's made marmalade it's not jam let me let me describe marmalade to someone who's never had marmalade imagine a lovely jam and now fill it disgusting rind. It's made from oranges and it's beautiful. Well, I love it. I love the strong taste. I love fig jam too.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And I don't really like figs, but I put them into jam and fill it, obviously, chock-a-block full of sugar. And it's beautiful, but I love marmalade. Next on my list, office christmas special oh so the office television show and i'm talking about the british one yes i don't like the american one i think it's nowhere near as good i love the british one and i'll watch just random episodes of the british office any day of the week at any time but if i ever want to feel nice if i ever want a nice feeling this is another thing i often will do on planes is i I'll watch the Office Christmas special.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yes. So, after the original two series, the show stopped. And then some time later, they made a one-off special, which was actually split over two episodes that came out at Christmas time in the UK. And I love watching this special, particularly part two. This is one that I thought Brady will include, I guess, that you would. And I agree with you. It's extremely moving towards the end of that. Puts a nice bow on everything.
Starting point is 00:17:14 But not in a sentimental way. Oh, it is sentimental, but it works. It is sentimental. It brings true, doesn't it? But it works, yeah. Because The Office was so unsentimental, unlike the American one. The British one was so unsentimental and kind of ended badly. And then they just came back and just said, all right,
Starting point is 00:17:31 we're going to give you all what you want, and they did. It never gets old. Because the American one goes into such a farce, but the UK one feels real all the way along, and it captures the doldrums of the boring bits of work. The American one was just too long. The American one's too long. So they just had to start squeezing the stone more and more
Starting point is 00:17:53 to get blood out of it and it just got ridiculous. The British one benefited from its lack of greed and just having so few episodes. That's right. But also means there are very few episodes. Yes, which sucks. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 What have you got? You're filling me with nerves by the fact every time I ask you for one, you're kind of looking at your list in a baffled way, like you don't know what to do. I have the list here. I have the list here. I just look at the next one and I go, oh, I don't know. And so I look at the one after that and I go, oh, maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You can't make it up on the fly. We've got to stop in an hour. No, that's fair. We can edit all this stuff out. We can sit here quietly and it can all be edited out lately, man. Yeah, but we need to get to 100. That's true. I have two more musical ones.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I have a lot of music because I love music. You're a music guy. You're a music guy. You're a music guy. You know, I've got lots of Brady type things on mine. Don't be ashamed. This is called Find the River. It's a song by R.E.M. It's the final song on the album Automatic for the People.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And it gets me every time. It's the perfect ending song of an album. And it's beautiful. It's like all of the best R.E.M. songs. It's kind of about goodbyes. It's about departures, and I absolutely love it. I have got to find the river. I actually know this song better than I normally would have
Starting point is 00:19:19 because a number of years ago now I did a series for the BBC where I followed the River Trent from its source all the way to the sea and I made a series of reports along the way and did all these adventures and just told the story of the river and Find the River was one of the pieces of music I used to edit the series to. I think I actually used it for the finale of the series. I was going through an REM stage when I was making this series, so there were lots of REM songs. I did i used night swimming at one point as well when i was doing night cruises
Starting point is 00:19:50 on the river and stuff like that so uh i do know the song and it is a nice song i didn't know you had a rem phase. Why wasn't I informed of the REM phase? Sorry. For people who don't know this, and that's everyone, Tim's waving out the window at people every, like, five or ten minutes. Who's walking past your window so often? Just people I know and people arriving for things and leaving and stuff. Yeah, like the queen just waving out the window of a car, like just waving constantly at people.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, I sell tickets actually to live recordings, man. There's about 40 people outside the window. It's Tim's side hustle. That's great. Next on my list, pointless electrical gadgets. gadgets whoa what do you mean by pointless like what's an example well think do you want to see the best example ever i bought i got this yesterday and my wife cannot believe i bought this i'll actually get it for you hang on yep yep this box here is called the ultimate machine and it's a wooden box and on the top there's just a little switch
Starting point is 00:21:07 and i'll show you what happens when you press the switch right a little finger comes out of the box and turns the switch off so the whole point of the device is to switch itself back off after you switch it on. That's great. But when I say electrical gadgets, pointless electrical gadgets, I do mean things with a point, but things I probably don't need, like all my extra cameras and, you know, my little bits and pieces. I'm a real sucker for the latest gizmo, the latest drone, the latest, you know, the latest little bit of tech to do with.
Starting point is 00:21:46 So, most of it's to do with my work. So, it's not truly pointless and I will use it for work. But, you know, do I really need that new little tripod, that new little thing, that new little gizmo? I like gizmos. I like the gadgets. I just like gadgets. You are a gadget guy. You are Inspector Gadget. When you come to visit, you've got your clothes bag and then you've got your other bag, which just has all that other stuff in it. It's black and yeah. Yeah. I have to check in two bags when I fly. One bag for like essentials and one bag just for electrical gear and camera gear.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It is cool. I kind of like that. You have it spread around the hotel room and it's kind of like a TV studio or I do interview that. Oh, this is cool stuff. What does this do? And there's a couple of laptops and there's microphones and all that kind of editing stuff. Love it. Love it. No lightsaber though. But anyway. Not yet. Not yet. No. My next one is REM as well. I'm in a real REM phase as well of my list. A book called Perfect Circle, well of my list a book called perfect circle which is a biography of rem and i i love it and i've read it multiple times because of the detail it goes through but here's the thing i love about this biography in particular is i found early versions of it many years ago and read it up to that point in their career and and loved it and then I found another version, which seemed
Starting point is 00:23:05 like an almost an unauthorized version or some sort of review copy. It didn't look like it's a legitimate book, but it was amazing reading up just detail of how they wrote songs and what was happening in their career and how they went into the studio. And then finally, after they broke up, a final version came out, which has their whole career in it. And I read it all through again. And I love it. It's kind of in some ways the best of heaps of books, dozens and dozens on my shelf about bands and their biographies and how they make albums and stuff. So I love this.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I probably like this one the best. And it's a wonderful book, Perfect Circle by R.E.M. I like this one the best, and it's a wonderful book, Perfect Circle by R.E.M. I love that feeling of reading it and being in the middle of their job, in the middle of their recording careers and what's happening, and particularly the technical bits around the music and the song. I love that.
Starting point is 00:23:58 So next on my list is actually one you've already done, Uluru, the great big rock, Ayers Rock in the middle of Australia. So there's probably not much more to say about that. Just a magnificent natural phenomenon. Very striking because of being in the middle of a desert. The two-day drive to get there. Two days of nothing and then this magnificent rock. Just a great place to visit. Kind of, you know, I'm not the world's most spiritual person, but it does have a kind of spirituality to it, along with its kind of raw, person but it does have a kind of spirituality to it along with its kind of raw natural geology power so uh yeah airs rock ularoo it is beautiful it does feel very special to be there doesn't it if you feel a sense of the sacred it's lovely my next one is one that you had mentioned earlier
Starting point is 00:24:41 which is well i put hot showers so i love, but hot showers is what I wrote in particular. Yes, it goes without saying. Cold showers suck. But, like, the hotter the better. It's the feeling of the heat, you know, on the back of your neck. Yeah, fantastic. The thing about a shower is it has the potential to totally transform you, you know, from being this tired, grumpy person to being this alive, refreshed,
Starting point is 00:25:09 renewed person. Yeah, they're great. They're magnificent. How long is an average tea-hind shower? It feels like time stands still when you're in the shower. I guess it's only five minutes. Time does stand still when I'm in the shower, if you ask my wife. You have long showers?
Starting point is 00:25:26 One of my daughters has legendary showers. Yes. No, my shower, I reckon 10 minutes is like minimum. Yeah. Time really does change, though, in the shower. It's like a black hole. It can be very quick when it felt like a long time, but the other way too. You want to stay there forever often, don't you you does the hot water run out in your house like if you go too long
Starting point is 00:25:49 will the next person not have hot water yes um only because at the end of the day on certain occasions we have a smaller hot water system because it's inside and it's an apartment so we can only fit a certain size so i had a look at looked at having it expanded but it won't fit in the space where it goes so we do have to be a little bit careful and some of us are next on my list the foundation series of novels by isaac asimov my favorite science fiction series favorite books foundation isa Isaac Asimov. I know there is an Apple TV series that's just been released of it. I watched the first one and wasn't immediately enamoured. I don't know if I'm going to continue.
Starting point is 00:26:34 No need to tell me about the TV series, people. I know about it. But the books, absolutely love. One of the few series of books I have read on multiple occasions. I've never heard of them. I don't know if they'd be your cup of tea to be honest probably not for you no i i am also just just for all those nerds out there who will now want to recommend stuff and get excited about stuff i will also tell you i'm currently reading the three body problem the three body series of
Starting point is 00:27:00 novels there's another famous more recent science fiction series and i'm loving them don't tell me any spoilers don't tell me anything but know that i'm reading them and be excited by that all spoilers to at brady harron on twitter my next one catching a wave i'm not a big surfer guy but i tell you catching a wave is an exhilarating moment isn't it whether on a bodyboard, catching a wave is an exhilarating moment, isn't it? Whether on a bodyboard, just catching a wave and cruising it in, or as I've done in a fleeting kind of way, one summer is standing up a bit. I've not built on that skill, but the feeling of the wave catching and taking off is wonderful, exhilarating, beautiful. Even just body surfing, that's a great feeling yeah the feeling the momentum of your body yeah being picked up and and um carried forward next
Starting point is 00:27:52 for me hardware stores i like i'm not i'm not a handyman at all i'm quite the opposite and i don't have much use for tools and hardware and stuff like that. But I just love going to hardware stores. Like if I have even the smallest reason to need to go, even if it's just buying like, you know, insect repellent. Yeah, yeah. I love just walking the aisles, looking at all the stuff, wishing I needed it. Sometimes just buying some random thing I don't need because it looks like a cool tool. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I love everything about looking at the nails and the screws, the bits of wood, drills. Love hardware stores. You know, when you called me the other day and I was in the hardware store, you were so excited because walking around and checking it all out. I ended up buying a new tape measure. We had a perfectly good one at home, but this one just looked awesome and it was bigger and bulkier. this one just looked awesome and it was bigger and bulkier and i pulled it out and went and it just came back in such a powerful way
Starting point is 00:28:52 that's the realistic equivalent of a lightsaber is pulling out a tape measure because it's small on your belt and then a big blade comes out like a lightsaber it makes the cool sound it can go back down like a lightsaber that's the cool sound it can go back down like a lightsaber that's the nearest thing we have to lightsabers where the tape measures i love i i can't resist a good tape measure as well i should add that the only actual work i do with the tape measure is measuring up like what size rug we're gonna buy like there's no actual real tool work that goes on with it i just use them to measure the next tape measure i'm gonna buy just to calibrate oh is that really a meter let me check with my other tape measure i need another one my next one is walking. I love walking.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And every time I, particularly I love the start of a walk, not so much the end, but more so the start. Starting out on a walk, every time I go out, particularly with a dog these days, I go, oh, wow, here we go. This is great. This is what I should be doing. It's quiet and there's, you know, it's exercise, but it's also that, you know that you know the dog's looking around i'm looking around they're breathing the air you just it's that feeling of walking that goes this is what i was made to do literally it's what i was made to do to walk
Starting point is 00:30:15 and i love it next for me wikipedia oh yeah good call i'm not grateful enough for wikipedia i realize the amount of time like i obviously I use it as a resource, but also just for pleasure. I'll just sit on the sofa and be like, oh, I wonder if so-and-so is still alive and go to that Wikipedia article. And then there'll be some tangent. Oh, I didn't know that they were the cousin of that person. I wonder what that person's doing.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Oh, I didn't know they were in that movie. Oh, let me read about that movie. And you go off on you know down these famous you know rabbit holes down wikipedia it just brings me so much pleasure and knowledge and it's been just made by people you know by fellow humans for free essentially have you ever donated to it you know how the donations i have from time to time yes i have donated a couple of times i sometimes regret it because then they just harass you forever afterwards for more donations.
Starting point is 00:31:08 But I think I will make another donation this week. And civilians, why don't you make a donation to Wikipedia this week? Because it's a good thing. It's one of the few good things in the world. I love that it doesn't have advertising. And I love that it's also... Let's be hypocritical. And I love that it's also, let's be hypocritical.
Starting point is 00:31:30 We have got a sponsor message coming up shortly. I love that it's coming into its own though. Early on, being in academia, you know, Wikipedia was poo-pooed because you get essays where people put it in their, you know, citation reference in their bibliography and you're like, oh no, you mustn't use Wikipedia. But it's kind of coming into its own as well. For general things, it's self-correcting and has a sense of accuracy about it that it's sort of – it's only going to get better in that sense.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It's certainly not something to be used in an academic reference. But I go to it. I use it just like you do. It has practical use. You actually do use it. All you do it has it has practical use you actually do use it all the academics and scientists who i work with are the same it's all like well you would never use that as a reference but if they need to quickly check something what's the boiling point of this or the melting point or the you know they'll first place they'll check first place they'll check yep so this feels like the perfect time for our sponsor message, Tim. I was about to say, do you know what other website I like?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Hover is who we like today. How great are Hover? Oh, yes. No, they're great. Yes. No, very good. Are you sure? You know I love Hover and I register all my domains with Hover.
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Starting point is 00:33:10 transferring your other domains from elsewhere into Hover so you can have them all in the same goodie bag is also really easy to do. They have a really good service for that. I'm so impressed by them. They're such a great sponsor. Do you know what I've just done? I've looked up Hover wikipedia the history hover was founded in july 2008 yeah after deciding to merge the three domain
Starting point is 00:33:34 registration services that they already owned net identity it's your domain and domain direct they all combined into hover what a great name hover is combining all those into one. Oh, it's got an official website. Let me link to that, external links. Oh, that's Hover. There we go. Hover. What have we done so far that might make a good, like, for example, for example, something we could do,
Starting point is 00:33:58 if we were going to make a website of our, you know, 100 best things in the world, and it would make sense to have a really catchy domain, wouldn't it? Like for, what would we call it? Greatestthings.com or something like you could go for that. I mean, 100greatestthings.com is available. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:14 On sale at the moment, actually. $13.99. That domain is yours. 100 favorite things? You could do that. Although, would you go for that or or you are you get spelling issues there i was schooled in australia so i would go favorite with an o u all right so i've looked up these are a few of my favorite things and these are a few of my favorite things.org
Starting point is 00:34:39 is available okay these are a few of my favorite things. Dot online is on sale. I'll tell you what as well, Christmas is coming. I think it would be a really cool thing to buy someone a domain as a Christmas present. That's a great idea. Yeah, something they would like that they could then attach to their own website or they could just divert to their Twitter or their social media or something. But just to say to your friend, you know, Billy Smithers, hey, Billy, I've just bought you billysmithers.com. Here's the login, here's the details of it or something. But just to say to your friend, you know, Billy Smithers, hey, Billy, I've just bought you billysmithers.com. Here's like, you know, here's the login, here's the details of it or something. It's all yours. And you can do what you want with it. Like, what do you buy? You
Starting point is 00:35:13 should get that for your mum. How much would your mum loving have her own domain name? I don't think mum knows what a domain is or what a website is really. Or the internet. Or the internet, yes. You could give it to them in such an interesting way as well you know you could instead of a card you can actually make up a quick site and then that be it on the domain and then send it to them and or it could just already divert to their website or to their social and say oh you're here and just write in the christmas card here's your present you know tim heinninja, and then they type that in,
Starting point is 00:35:45 and then it goes to their, like, thing. And that's the way of showing them that you've just got them. Yeah. Anyway, with Hover, you will also get 10% off your first purchase by going to hover.com slash unmade. The prices are already great, but if you go to hover.com slash unmade, get 10% off. That also tells hover that
Starting point is 00:36:05 you're a supporter of the unmade podcast it does us a lot of good as well so we appreciate people who are going to hover.com slash unmade and thank you hover they're they're great supporters of the show and we really appreciate them thank you hover lovely work wisteria the word wisteria. The word wisteria. Just the word. I love the sound of the word. Not wisteria itself? No. Oh, no. Just saying wisteria.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It's a fun word to say. Wisteria. Nice. Words that are fun to say are a few of my favourite things. But wisteria is the classic example Wisteria Next on my list You mentioned the Brooklyn Bridge earlier
Starting point is 00:36:51 I'm just going bridges in general I just think bridges are marvellous Humans conquering gaps they need to get over With engineering Sometimes with a bit of beauty as well You know, look at all the great bridges. Golden Gate Bridge, Sydney Harbour Bridge. There are some great bridges around the place.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Clifton Suspension Bridge, favourite of mine, of course, here in Bristol. I love a good bridge. I could look at a bridge all day. I love walking over a bridge. I love driving over a bridge. Give me a good bridge. The confidence of the engineers with a bridge. Give me a good bridge. The confidence of the engineers with a bridge, particularly going back quite a way, is startling, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:37:31 Just to say, yes, no, it will hold. And you can go on it. Children can go on it. Just they are amazing, aren't they? And sometimes they go wrong. And that can be a little bit fun too. Well, that's right. Not all bridges remain, but the vast.
Starting point is 00:37:48 If I built a bridge, I'd be like, look, I'm telling you, I wouldn't walk on it. Like, I mean, there it is, and it looks nice, but look, I wouldn't trust it. But it's well tape measured. It's well measured. That's right. And here's a playlist to play as you walk around it.
Starting point is 00:38:06 The Wisteria Bridge designed by Tim Hine. The Wisteria Bridge. It's lovely work. What have you got next? Look, this is a bit of a strange concept, but I have grown very much in my appreciation of eloquence. Eloquence. Now, I work with a few people and know a few people who are incredibly eloquent and also have a great sense of pith. I'm not claiming to be eloquent, but I have marveled at their ability to use an economy of words to convey, you know, an important and abstract concept and story. And every now and then when I hear someone explain something with great eloquence, I feel like standing up and giving them an ovation, just going, well, that was just fantastic, particularly when I consider my own ineloquence.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And also other people, you know, you might hear a conversation and one person's struggling to speak and then say something or they're going around and around like I am now. And then someone cuts through and just summarises, not trying to be punty or pretentious or anything. It's just because that's how complete sentences flow out of their mouth, you know, with great ease. So it sounds like an aspect of eloquence that you appreciate is brevity. Indeed, yes.
Starting point is 00:39:20 In particular. Not just eloquence. I mean, of course, you know, a person can go on and on and on or use another word apart from on and on and on. They would be good at that. Yeah. Well, brevity is the soul of wit, they say. Nice.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Eloquence. All right. Also, another nice word, eloquence. Eloquence. It is, yes. Eloquence sounds elegant that's what i think next on my list the valley of the kings in egypt i almost went for the pyramids but in the end i went for the valley of the kings because to me that's a little bit sexier because it's also got
Starting point is 00:39:57 the whole secrecy you know hidden away component the curse to it well there's the indeed there's king tut's tomb in the valley of the Kings has the curse. But the Valley of the Kings, obviously, is this valley in Egypt, not far from the Nile, where many, many, many kings were buried in these kind of hidden tombs and caves all throughout the sides of the walls. And obviously, famously, for many years, this one tiny one went undiscovered after all the others had been discovered and then eventually with a bit of luck and hard work Howard Carter discovered
Starting point is 00:40:29 this one extra one which became famous because it still had all the goodies in it but the Valley of the Kings in general is just really interesting and the other tombs you can go into there are way more impressive than King Tut's tomb. King Tut's tomb is just almost like a storage cupboard which is why it was unfound and which is why it had all the cool stuff in it. But the other tombs are incredible. Like, they're really long galleries with multiple rooms and they're also fantastic to go into. And it's just a really cool place, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:57 The fact that such a place exists, that all these pharaohs are all buried in this one place and, yeah, it's just a cool notion. The idea of the Valley of the Kings is really cool as well. Like if it was a made up place in a novel, you'd think, oh, that's awesome. The fact that it's real is even better. Why were they buried in a valley?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Like if many of them were buried in the Kings, you know, have pyramids built and that's what they... Why are others put in a valley? Some had the pyramids, obviously. You know, there are three great pyramids there, but they're from a different time. The main reason was security. They wanted somewhere that was well-guarded so people wouldn't go and loot their tombs because they wanted all that stuff in the afterlife.
Starting point is 00:41:37 And obviously grave robbers were a problem. So the Valley of the Kings, I think, was really a security operation. It could be well-guarded. Obviously, it wasn't because everything got nicked all the time. But yeah, I think it was more of a security operation. It could be well guarded. Obviously it wasn't because everything got nicked all the time, but yeah, I think it was more of a security thing. There's also this sort of peak type mountain at the end of the valley that looks like a pyramid. And I think some spiritual significance was imbued with that.
Starting point is 00:41:57 So they still felt they were being buried in the shadow of or under a pyramid of some sorts. It's got this like this pyramid type peak, but I think it was a security thing. And then it just became the tradition for a number of some sorts it's got this like this pyramid type peak but i think it was a security thing and then it just became the tradition for for a number of years yeah yeah value the kings nice you've been to so many cool places that's a good one that's a good one to go to magnificent all right back scratching i absolutely love having my back scratched not doing it yourself with an implement, having someone else do it.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Oh, I don't care. I don't care. You often do it yourself in the reaching over, but particularly my wife who has, you know, nails and, you know, scratching, oh, you're having a hug. Give us a scratch. Oh, oh, yep. No, just there.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Just there to the left, to the left. No, down a bit. Down a bit. Over to the. No, that's it. Nice. Just a good itch is to the left. No, down a bit. Down a bit. Over to the right. No, that's it. Nice. Just a good itch is good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely glorious. Next for me, snow. Oh, right. Yeah. Snow's pretty magical, especially for people that grew up in Australia like us. I think even people who grew up with snow, I think, have a love of snow. But for us, it's like extra magical because it would like even people who grew up with snow i think have a love of snow but for us
Starting point is 00:43:07 it's like extra magical because it's like a unicorn yeah seeing snow when you're australian so it and i don't think that ever goes away even though i've seen a bit more snow now in my life like yeah snow is still pretty awesome yeah and i think it's because it's so rare for us to see to go play in but then at the same time we're watching christmas movie after christmas movie where they wake up and the snow's falling and so it does become this mythic powder which is why clouds are such a disappointment because they have the promise of snow but you know that but they're not snow i'll tell you what is disappointing about snow though like i love it don't worry it's more the look of snow than the reality of snow because snow also when you touch it and interact with it it's cold it's really cold
Starting point is 00:43:49 yes but it also makes you really wet and if you're not careful you know your socks get wet and your clothes will get wet if you haven't got the right so snow actually is quite problematic the reality of interacting with snow isn't that great but it just looks magical it's just a magical substance with snow isn't that great but it just looks magical it's just a magical substance yeah it's very hard too quite coarse and yeah packs together we come now to the one i alluded to earlier when you were saying that you uh love your sneakers and trainers mine are the boots that i wear on sunday to preach and at other times of the week all the time is made by rm williams these are leather boots they're made of one piece of leather they i love them for a variety of reasons firstly they smell great they're a perfect shape they're super comfortable you can wear them all day but they
Starting point is 00:44:36 also have this wonderful inner integrity about them as well because they're one piece of leather they're still handmade in you know like a factory out here in Adelaide. And they're Australian, made by R.M. Williams. So they're just a wonderful product. Beautiful boots. And I love them. And that's what I, if I'm not wearing sneakers, I'm wearing them. These boots are made for preaching. Yes, that's right. I love it. You can wear them with jeans. You can wear them with a suit. You know, they look, they are fantastic. Next for me, Biscoff Spread, particularly the crunchy version, not the smooth version.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Biscoff is a kind of biscuit. And now they've made it into like a spread. That's kind of like Nutella, but it's sort of biscuity, caramelly flavoured. And it is absolute heroin. I know in different countries and different places it has a different name, and people get very upset when I call it Biscoff Spread because apparently, you know, in my town or my country, we use the original proper name. But for me and for most of the countries I've been to,
Starting point is 00:45:37 it is marketed and sold as Biscoff Spread. Oh, okay. I thought you said Biscoff Bread. Make sure you get the crunchy version. Make sure you get the crunchy version, people. It is unbelievable. I've hardly ever had it spread on anything. I just eat it straight out of the jar.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Spreading it on something would be to taint the perfection. Well, can I just say something here? We've gone full circle here. I've never heard of this spread, but this is actually speculus so this is actually when i talked about speculars biscuit the dutch biscuit there are so they're biscoff briskets are they that was the biscoff i did wonder that that's it's the same stuff yeah i don't know if it's the same company who makes speculars but it's the same tim get yourself some biscoff crunchy spread have a spoonful out
Starting point is 00:46:26 of the jar and tell me it's not the best thing you've ever tasted in your life well i reckon specular biscuits are i think the biscuit version of what you've now got in a spread through some other product well they call here they call them biscoff biscuits you can buy them it's very typical in hotels and that to get biscoff biscuits to have with you yeah have with your tea and coffee so yeah it probably is the same or similar yes okay so in europe lotus speculus is the most recognized brand the same company as lotus biscoff that's it unbelievable there you go full circle that's the greatest taste on earth yes well tim i know those biscuits and those biscuits are okay the spread is like concentrated version of it but get the crunchy one get it man wow get it it will change your life
Starting point is 00:47:13 this is like my favorite biscuit that i mentioned earlier in my list i've now discovered it comes as a spread they've gone crazy now they do bisque off ice cream and all sorts but the spread it's unbelievable get into it it's become a real trendy thing now in england because the They've gone crazy now. They do Biscoff ice cream and all sorts, but the spread is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Get into it. It's become a real trendy thing now in England because the spread's kind of catching on. People make all sorts of things like Biscoff muffins and cakes and people use Biscoff milkshakes.
Starting point is 00:47:37 It gets used as an ingredient. I'll see if it's in Australia. It seems like it is. Wow. I don't even know what. Get onto it, man. Get onto it. We're't even know what. Get on to it, man. Get on to it. We're not going to be able to finish the list, man.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I'm going to have to go to the shops. What do you got next? Let's crack through. Trains. I know you said train tracks before, and because you clarified it very clearly, I remain silent. But yes, trains and train rides I love. Sitting in a train, knowing that there's a few hours ahead of you, you've got a book to read, looking around. I think you can walk down to the cart and get a cuppa or coffee,
Starting point is 00:48:10 come back, sit down. I love trains. Totally agree. Absolutely fantastic. Totally agree. Love a good train trip. Next for me, I've got an album you'll be pleased to know. Oh.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Oh, look how interested you suddenly got. Wow. Dire Straits Brothers in Arms. Ah, yes. Because it was like the first album I bought. It was like a seminal album for me. It was like the first time I got into the whole notion of an album was new to me at that point, a collection of songs
Starting point is 00:48:38 by the one band that follow each other. To me, until then, music was compilation tapes that my parents had of greatest hits and the radio and stuff. This was the idea of a curated album. It was the first time I was introduced to that idea. I bought it as a tape. I played it on a crummy little tape deck many, many times. And even now I think it stands up as a really good album.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Nine very good songs. It is nine songs, I think. Very good songs. I think it is nine, yeah. very i think it is nine yeah very good album it is a good album i like you i got into this album through you i it was around the place but i never listened to it of course die straights were around when i was a kid and stuff but i was never into them it's only later in life and it's a good album lots of subtle things going on the secret diary of adrian mole great book very fun probably the best book of my childhood character called adrian mole it's his diary his foibles he's a nerd he doesn't really
Starting point is 00:49:35 know it but he's not a very clever nerd he's more like me as a nerd but he but he thinks he's clever he thinks he's an intellectual yeah fun fact about that, that was the hardest book to get at Marion Library, the Marion Council Library. You had to book to get that. You had to, like, book to get the book, like, weeks and weeks in advance because that was the most popular book. There was a waiting list if you wanted to borrow it from the library. Great book.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Next for me, Antique Science Equipment. Even if I don't really know what it does, if I'm in a second-hand store or something and they've got like old science equipment, I love old science equipment. Love it. Love that old stuff. I've actually got quite a few just in my office
Starting point is 00:50:15 just because I like how that looks. Even if it's just old test tubes and jars, but if it's something really elaborate too, I love that. Yeah, nice. Love my antique science equipment. Laughing. Yeah, laughing's good. There's nothing more enjoyable than laughing, is there?
Starting point is 00:50:36 Crying's good. I'm not talking down crying, but laughing is what I like to do most. Laughing's good. Making people laugh and laughing. I think you're supposed to spend most of the day laughing or vast sums of the day laughing. Do you think that would be tiring or sore if you just laughed all day, though? Oh, it is.
Starting point is 00:51:03 It does get exhausting. It does hurt after a while, your face. Yes, yes. Things that genuinely make you laugh are glorious little slivers of magic. Absolutely. I love to laugh. Next for me, the Greg Chappell Cricket Centre catalogue. So Greg Chappell was a former Australian cricketer
Starting point is 00:51:25 and after he retired, he became like a successful businessman and he opened like a big superstore in Queensland that sold cricket equipment, all the cricket equipment, stuff you couldn't even see in the shops. And this was before the time of the internet. And I got on the mailing list and once a year in the post, you would get this thick catalogue, which is full of cricket equipment, all the bats, all the padding,
Starting point is 00:51:51 or everything you could imagine, stuff you didn't even know existed, all the stuff your heroes were using that you would never see, that you could then buy by mail order. It was already expensive and I would never get it. But I would just spend days and days going through every item in this catalogue, putting together my dream kit of my dream bat and my dream pads in my dream bag and all the things I wish I could buy. like a thousand dollars and I could have this. But like, I just, the pleasure I got from going through that catalogue and fantasising about all the things I'd love to own.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And cricket equipment I didn't even know existed for training and stuff like that, like practice equipment and stuff. I thought, oh, imagine if I had that in the backyard, my life would be complete. Pure bliss, the Greg Chappell Cricket Centre catalogue. Did you ever get anything from it a couple of posters i think once that's about it right okay you know i'm not i'm not like i'm not
Starting point is 00:52:52 like you know i'm not complaining my parents you know bought me the cricket gear i needed and i had nice gear and i'm very happy and we'd go to rowan jarman in the city center to bike rowan jarman that was that was the best sports store in adelaide and that they had all the bats and stuff and i would go there and occasionally be bought something i'm not i'm not complaining i was a lucky boy but the greg chapel cricket center that was next level that was the dream never fulfilled but just the catalog gave me the pleasure i didn't have to have the stuff just just fantasizing about it was enough there's a really strange cricket shop in i think it's halifax street actually in coincidentally
Starting point is 00:53:31 in adelaide and it's a real 70s shop like it's just like a run-down store and it's got fake astroturf or astroturf fake grass out the front and then it's like all the cricket equipment and the posters and things are kind of faded and – you know how cricket is kind of a 70s kind of sport in a way? It feels like a really masculinity kind of sport. And this whole shop is sort of stuck in that era. It's really perplexing.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I'll have to take you there sometime. Mornings. I love mornings. I've become a real morning person no every joy cometh in the morning says the bible and i say look there's something about the morning that's full of promise waking up and it's morning like i love going to bed i love sleeping but waking up and go oh it's morning, fills me almost with exhilaration. I get out of bed. I go out, turn on the coffee machine, hop in the shower.
Starting point is 00:54:31 It's full of promise. The sun. Even if it's a cloudy day, it's like it's a new day. Today is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. And I love mornings. I hate them all right next for me i love maps yes you do whether it's an old map a new map a map on the wall an atlas a globe a tube map a train map any kind train map, any kind of map.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I love maps. I don't particularly like using maps to find my way around. Like I will. That's just a utility of them. That's not what I love about them. I just love the idea of them and the look of them. I love maps. Love a good map.
Starting point is 00:55:20 You are. You're such a map guy. Yes. I am a map guy. I admit it. It goes with your mountaineer shtick that you're working with. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 All right. What do you got? Morrissey's hair. I think Morrissey has the best hair of anyone ever. And I'm including Jesus in that. I think he. I consider your life purpose, like the point of your life to be an endless quest to make your hair as much like morrissey's as possible yeah yeah it's it is and you know the haircut today i don't think it was a step closer i think i think
Starting point is 00:55:57 she thought it was a step closer but it it's it will see if it grows into it. But yeah, Morrissey's here. Next for me, I went for the Empire State Building. Oh. I was going to go for New York City as a whole, but I thought that was a bit of a cop-out. But the Empire State Building, for me, even though it's not the tallest, it still is New York. And wherever you are in the city, when you see it,
Starting point is 00:56:20 it like owns the city for me. I think it's the best building. I love it. I love it. You know, it's kind of a bit brutal looking, but still quite beautiful. I drove into New York for the first time from a few different angles on my most recent trip, because I had a few trips outside New York and I went for cars instead of trains. So, I came in on roads I hadn't seen it before. Approaching New York from different angles is very exciting. It's a very exciting city to approach and look at.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And however you're approaching it and what you're looking at, the Empire State Building is still the building I look for. I love it. Iconic. It's hard to know what it is. It does have a lovely, again, a symmetrical squareness. It looks like the ultimate quintessential building in a way. Does stand apart. Yeah. Next for me is preaching. I love i love preaching yeah i love teaching as well standing in front of a whiteboard and teaching but i'm a better preacher than teacher like getting to the point making it clear unlike this explanation i i love preaching well Well. I feel God's pleasure preaching and people seem to appreciate it, some people. So I love preaching. You're very good at it too. I have seen you preach and it is a talent of yours.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So I'm glad you enjoy it. To change the tone somewhat, next on my list, comfortable boxer shorts. Like I love a nice pair of comfy boxer shorts and like when you find your brand and the ones you like i go crazy i've just bought loads and loads of the same brand i've got like 15 pairs of my favorites nice nice comfy silky feeling ones like good fitting silky do you are important they're not made of silk but they're kind've got a kind of a silky nature to them. They're not like coarse cloth, but I love a good pair of comfortable boxer shorts. I have my brand and size and style, and I stick with it and have lots of them.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And I'm a bit more ruthless these days about weaning them out when they're falling apart. Yeah, fair enough. Once upon a time, I'd go a long way, but now they're straight out of rotation. Yeah. What about colour? Do you mix up the colours a bit or do you, like, just go for one colour? I do mix up. I like plain colours.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I don't like a pack that comes with, you know, like a Neapolitan ice cream sort of pack where they're all multi-colours. I like to get them all in blue or green or dark, you know, like a Neapolitan ice cream sort of pack where they're all multi-colours. I like to get them all in blue or green or dark, you know, but sometimes it's unavoidable. What about you? Yeah, I do mix the colours up, but they will be kind of just like blacks and greys and blues and that. I might occasionally get a rogue red pair just to show a bit of flair, but I generally like dark monotone. Yeah. but I generally like dark monotone.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah. Well, don't you think white underwear is, it's like a really old man sort of colour to get underwear. Really, it's like you're entering the army in the 1950s or something if you have white underwear. Nah, stupid, stupid, stupid move. All right. What do you got? What's next?
Starting point is 00:59:21 About a Boy. This is a novel by Nick Hornby, and it was made into a film as well with Hugh Grant. I love the film. I've never read the book, but I do love the film. I love the film too. This isn't one of those, oh, the novel was better, except the novel was better.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I love the film too, which makes the same point. There's just more in the book. There's more tangents and more stuff going on. That's just probably why I'd say the book. And I read the book first and really loved it. And it's about, it has an insight into being a guy, a young guy growing up and the things that guys like and hope for and want in being older that resonated with me and is also really funny. One complaint I have about the film, and i don't know about the book mild spoilers here but i found it really implausible that there would be this guy
Starting point is 01:00:10 who pretended to have a kid so that he could go to groups to meet women like oh yeah i just i just thought the whole like you know charade he was creating just didn't seem plausible it does ring true a bit for me in the sense that he was he lies you know what i mean or he makes things sound better than they are um in the midst of conversation so that's sort of oh yeah no you know it's the bit later on where he he doesn't lie but he also doesn't deny when she gets the wrong idea and he goes with it because you know i thought oh yeah no guys do that like it's not good but that that made sense to me i'm going to combine two things for this next one which is a little bit cheaty but they're in the same genre so i think you'll allow it next for me caves and
Starting point is 01:00:58 tunnels oh like underground infrastructure whether natural or man-made caves and tunnels i love underground stuff like that like underground stuff i'm with you with the tunnels but not the caves caves bore me tunnels i find really cool and exciting yeah i mean you can get boring caves but sometimes you get really big cave networks and stuff like that they can be pretty interesting in terms of underground tunnels do you a guy's just driven past on a skateboard waving a lightsaber awesome like a like an led long stick he's just waving it around in the dark it's just he's the embodiment of this episode that's right yes what's the coolest underground, sort of man-made tunnel thing?
Starting point is 01:01:47 Have you been into some of the ones in Germany, you know, from the war or places like that? No, I haven't. I haven't. I was just going through the Lincoln Tunnel a few times the other day, though, in New York, and even that I just think, it's cool that they built this and all these cars are driving through it. They just said, all right, we need to get from here to there.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Let's just build a tunnel. And they did. You know, tunnels yeah they're great they're great that we can do that stuff bridge people and tunnel people are two different categories like telescope people and microscope people they would fight each other in sports and things right well i've got both on my list so i've got a foot in both camps disintegration byation by The Cure. It's an album. More music. A great album. It's been with me a long time.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Had it on cassette. Really loved it. It's reassuring. Wonderful on a rainy day. It's the best Cure album. And that's all I have to say about that. So the next on my list is Tides. The Tide. of that so the next on my list is tides the tide like because i couldn't have the moon on my list
Starting point is 01:02:49 because the moon isn't on earth so the and the tides are created by the moon so it's a bit of a nod to the moon but i also just find the in and out of the tide kind of a little bit magical and special important i also happen to live in an area where the tidal range, as you know, is very extreme. So the tides are a bigger deal to me because the tidal range here is like tens of feet. Low tide and high tide is a massive difference. The changing of the tide is,
Starting point is 01:03:15 I'm more conscious of perhaps than some people. I just like it. I like that it's part of human existence, that the sea level is changing because of the moon. And, like, you and I went to Steep Home, the island here, and we could only get on it at, like, low tide and off it at high, you know, and back, you know. Our access to it was dictated by the tides.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Things like that. I just like, I'd like, it's, like, just a bit special. It's quirky. I know it's not quirky because most places with a moon or with, you know, things near them have tidal ranges. But it just seems like an odd quirk of the earth. If you were building the earth from scratch and you weren't thinking about physics and science and that, who would have thought to make the sea level change
Starting point is 01:04:01 over the course of the day? And in a regular way. It's not the same time every day it's constantly changing and moving and it's just a it's just a thing that it tickles my brain and i think it's a little bit magical and i like it i like the tides i always like seeing those the tides that are so vast they leave boats sitting on dry land for half the day oh yeah i get that here i can go and I can go and look at that right now. Dry, dried up boats and then later on they're like really high. Yeah, that happens here.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And it's not like something's gone wrong. That's just how it is. This boat sits on the ground half the day, is in the water the other half of the day. Where I go for my daily walks, I walk past boats like that that are beached half the day. One more from you. One more. Number 99. Well, for this one, I've gone with something, I don't
Starting point is 01:04:48 know if we're allowed to have this kind of thing, but I've gone with the concept of grace. Right. Is that allowed? Well, yeah, it's your podcast too. Grace. I think the concept of grace, that is of kind of unmerited forgiveness, is at the concept of grace that is of kind of unmerited forgiveness is at the heart of some of the greatest stories like les miserables and different places like that and wherever i see it and i see a glimpse of it around it's kind of the thing that breaks most of the world works on karma so it's like you get what you deserve or whatever. Of course, bad things happen to good people, but the concept of grace kind of works beyond that.
Starting point is 01:05:27 And I find it's obviously related to my job and my faith, but it's played out beyond that as well. No, no, I agree. I find as the years go by and the older I get, the more I appreciate grace and think it is like the most important virtue. Like it's the one I aspire to have the most like i and i envy when others show grace which is funny that i'm expressing envy of grace but um yes but yeah i think i think it's uh i think it's yeah i think grace is a wonderful thing and i think it's fair
Starting point is 01:05:58 enough you can have that that's going to make my last one seem rather flippant Because the last one on my list is The Volvo ad in which Jean-Claude Van Damme Balances between two trucks I cannot stop watching that YouTube clip I cannot stop watching that ad It's brilliant I've had my ups and downs My fair share of bumpy roads and heavy winds
Starting point is 01:06:23 It's like, it's kind of funny and ironic because van damme's speaking so seriously about you know something and then it turns out to be a truck ad and yet it's got all this meaning it's got this beautiful enya song and a sunset it's this audacious thing and yet it's selling trucks but the trucks are cool too like and they've got they're well engineered to be able to do that. Everything about that ad I love and I will never stop watching it. It is the greatest piece of footage ever made. I remember when you sent it to me and I think you said something like, I can't stop watching this.
Starting point is 01:07:02 I still can't. I still can't. When I remember it exists, i'll just log on and watch it a few times magnificent elevated to the uh to high art addictive art marvelous it's fantastic if you've never seen it what planet are you living on? Go and watch it Link in the show notes, is it? Link in the show notes That's it We've done the hundred I still think the list is
Starting point is 01:07:31 Well, I envy your hot dogs inclusion I should have gone with that maybe Maybe with a bit of mint sauce on lamb roast But anyway, we mustn't go on There's going to be so many things I regret Because we did these lists in a bit of a hurry You just suggested it last night So I did did cobble together my list a bit quickly. Maybe sometime in the future we'll do the second 100 or something.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I don't know. Yeah. We'll do the supplementary list. But that was good fun. That was good fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:59 If people want to pull together their 100 list and email it to us or get it in front of our noses somehow on Twitter or Reddit, you know, I'd be curious to see other people's lists. Anything you'd like or didn't like that we included, we're happy to hear about it. Absolutely. We didn't really do them in order, but doing a top five would be a hard challenge, wouldn't it? Oh, that would be hard.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I don't even want to think about that at the moment thank you for your time i know we've spilled over into episode 101 but thanks for the 100 episodes it's been good fun thanks everyone who's listened supported us especially uh especially um stakeholders on patreon you know who go that little extra mile we appreciate you but we love all the civilians you're all magnificent You're our true favourite 100. Yes, that's right. I hope there are 100 of you.

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