The Unmade Podcast - 103: KFC Anonymous

Episode Date: January 18, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Before this episode starts, I'd just like everyone to know that the YouTube video that goes with this episode is going to have lots and lots of footage from a car trip I just took all around Iceland. And I set up a camera on the front and got all sorts of cool footage. I just thought I'd say that from the start. If you want to go and enjoy this episode via YouTube, that'd be something different to look at. I'm obviously going to talk a bit about Iceland because I've just been there again. But I wanted people to know that from the start If you're YouTube inclined Go and have a look There'll be a link below
Starting point is 00:00:29 I don't think of Iceland as having roads Like being able to drive It doesn't You know what I mean It just feels like it's a wilderness terrain That you sort of fossick around on That's strange that it has When we took off at the airport
Starting point is 00:00:40 I turned to my wife and said Where we're going We don't need roads They have roads They have very good roads It's a great country to drive around took off at the airport, I turned to my wife and said, where we're going, we don't need roads. They have roads. They have very good roads. It's a great country to drive around, but it does get very icy and snowy at this time of year and occasionally gets a little bit hairy, as you may see a few times in the video, actually. I was rolling a few times when the snow got really, really bad. Well, that's on brand. So, that's better for Iceland, yeah. I just, you go all the way to Iceland to be stuck at a traffic light or, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:01:09 It just feels like, oh, this is a bit domestic. I'm supposed to be somewhere arid and exotic with ambient music. Seeing we're already talking about Iceland, let's do the Iceland stuff first. You may remember I went in July when it was light all the time and very verdant and lovely all over the country. And as a result of that, we decided we wanted to see dark mode. We wanted to see it when it was dark all the time and snowy and truly icy. So we've just gone back over New Year, had a fantastic time.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I just thought I'd share a few things that you might find interesting. One is the main reason we went was because we wanted to see the Northern Lights. And I've had such bad luck with the Northern Lights, all the different, like in Sweden and other places. I thought I was never going to get a good look at them. Finally, that monkey is off my back. Three nights, we had really good views of the Northern Lights. Thank you, Iceland.
Starting point is 00:02:09 The photos look amazing. I would have thought they might be a little bit like fireworks, where it's amazing to be there, but photos just look pretty crap. They don't quite capture it. But the photos you sent look just absolutely amazing, didn't they? Just between you and me, it's actually the opposite with the Northern Lights. The photos look more amazing than the real thing. Oh, really? Because those photos are like, you know, 20 second exposures. So, all the colour and the light and the greenness is coming in and it
Starting point is 00:02:34 makes them look more exaggerated. Like, that's not what it looked like to your eyes at the time. The green was a lot fainter and was less like, it was less, whoa, but it was still, it was still cool. It was, it was still cool, but don't think it looks like it looks in the photos. Ah, right. Okay. And is it moving and changing all the time? Like, it's not like a rainbow where it's static in there. No, you do notice a slight shimmer and movement, but it's not like on TV again, where they use a bit of time-lapse. of i mean obviously during a big solar storm it can look incredible i didn't see that but you are you are aware that it's moving but it's quite subtle right okay you mentioned fireworks that was my other big observation because a real drawcard a real reason we went was we were told reykjavik the capital goes
Starting point is 00:03:22 crazy on new year's eve for fireworks because one of the ways they raise money for their emergency services is the sale of fireworks. So everyone just buys fireworks from the emergency services like as a charitable thing. And then on New Year's Eve, they just go absolutely crazy. Isn't that a bit ironic? Like buying fire from the fire department. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And they did cause a few fires this year as well apparently But anyway, that's the way they rock And the other thing we were told was that Iceland pretty much on New Year's Eve Goes crazy with fireworks Then everyone stops to watch this comedy TV show Which is kind of like a To put it into a show that you would know,
Starting point is 00:04:06 kind of like a fast forward comedy company type show. Oh yeah, like sketches and stuff. Saturday Night Live type thing. Oh yeah. Everyone watches it from 10.30 to 11.30 and then they go out and go crazy again. So anyway, we went out for dinner and then some from about seven o'clock or so, there was just fireworks going off everywhere all the time. It was crazy. And true enough, at 10.30, it just stopped. Everything just stopped. Like the fireworks stopped.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And we watched this TV show because you could watch it with captions. We watched this comedy TV show. Fair enough. There we go. We watched it. And then as soon as it finished at 11.30, fireworks went crazy again. And they really did go crazy. But, mate, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Is it like just such a national institution? Everyone loves this show so much. Yeah, yeah. Is it a show that's been running for years? Is it a, like, is it a... Yeah, yeah. And it's usually like a look back at the year. So, this year there was lots of, there were lots of in-jokes about Icelandic politics
Starting point is 00:05:02 that went over my head a little bit. But lots of jokes about COVID and living with the pandemic. And it was very much kind of like current affairs. You look back at the year, spoofing all the politicians and the big events of the year. It was all right. My wife thought it was quite funny. I thought it was all right. She laughed a few times, apparently.
Starting point is 00:05:19 So it's a bit like in Adelaide when the Unmade podcast is released and the whole state just stops, screeches to a halt. What are they saying now? Adelaide? Adelaide? The world? Well, first in Adelaide because it's early, but then it flows on around the world like New Year's Eve, progressively moving on.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Exactly, exactly. But then the fireworks ramp up again at 11. and it's just constant it's not like at midnight there was like a big difference like we were at this big church in the center of Reykjavik which is like this landmark and that's where everyone was congregating and there was just fireworks being let off everywhere and then we're going what's nearly midnight what's going to happen and then midnight just passed and the fireworks just like just continued. There was no like there was no marker of midnight, really. It was just nonstop fireworks for hours. City went crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:10 It was really cool. Are these like the authorities doing official fireworks? Are they like your neighbour suddenly explodes something next to you and then the person over there just does something? It was never clear to me. There were certainly lots and lots of amateur shows. I don't know if there were professional shows going on, even at the church. They seem to be coming from different places and there seemed to be no rhyme or reason to it. I don't know if there was like a state or government organised one or it was just, it all just merged into one, but it was just like, they were just
Starting point is 00:06:38 going off everywhere. And if you got up high and you could see over like the suburbs of Reykjavik, there was just firework shows going off everywhere. It was like, it was just constant and everywhere. It was pretty cool. Cool. Nice. What's the reason for their fireworks? Do they, they don't have a Guy Fawkes story or? I don't know why it caught on. Obviously, obviously they, I think,
Starting point is 00:06:58 I don't know why it's become such a tradition. I don't know. Obviously they do it ostensibly to support the emergency services. Right. But really, I just think they just love blowing stuff up. It's a bit like the skit show. We like this. So the whole nation focuses on it.
Starting point is 00:07:13 We like this other thing too. Oh, okay. Let's all do it together full on. They're just all or nothing people. We knew what we were in for when we arrived at the hotel on New Year's Eve and the tour company had given us safety goggles. Another thing I love about Iceland is they love hot dogs. They almost consider hot dogs to be their unofficial national food. And there are so many great places to buy hot dogs. And this time I went to the famous hot dog stand where Bill Clinton went and got a hot dog when he was in Reykjavik.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I actually went there twice. Right. Yes. I think he probably snuck back a few more times as well, man. Away from the cameras. But here is the other thing Icelanders love, KFC. There were quite a few KFCs around the place. No McDonald's, no Burger King. And I brought this up with my guide. I said, there are lots of KFCs around the place. No McDonald's, no Burger King.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And I brought this up with my guide. I said, there are lots of KFCs around. What's going on? And he told me an interesting, funny story. Recently, all Icelanders were given about $30, I think it was, or about £30, that level of money by the government to try and stimulate the economy and encourage them to go to hotels and travel around Iceland, like, you know, to get a bit of a shot in the arm during the pandemic. Oh, pardon the pun. Anyway, it was done via an app so they could get all the stats
Starting point is 00:08:37 on how they all spent their money. Oh, yeah. And it turns out, by far, the largest amount of money the Icelanders spent their allowance on was KFC. They all used it to go and buy KFC. That's not our fault entirely, though, is it? I mean, I know we do have listeners. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I said, why do the people of Iceland love KFC so much? And he had two theories. Besides the fact it's just bloody delicious. Oh, yeah. One was that they feel like a loyalty to KFC because KFC's been loyal to them. Like with McDonald's hasn't hung around and Burger King and all these other places won't come to Iceland or they don't hang around. But KFC's always been there. So there's kind of this like you've stuck by us and we're going to stick by you.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yep, yep. Which, you know, sounds fair enough. It's a funny way to treat a multinational, but yeah. Yeah. His other theory was that Iceland and the state of Kentucky are almost exactly the same size. Oh, okay. And I went and checked, and it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:38 They are almost exactly the same area. Iceland, 103,000 square kilometres. Kentucky, 102,269 square kilometres. Very different populations, but they're almost exactly the same size. So, like, one person's recognised this once, and again, the whole nation's gone, well, OK, we love Kentucky. Like, they're just all in.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Imagine living in a country who's just sort of favourite foods are hot dogs and KFC. It's just like a Brady and Tim nation, isn't it really? I mean, it's just. Yeah, it's great. Do they also have like a space center or something? I would move there. I would live, I would quite happily live in Iceland.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I really like it. It's fantastic. Oh, nice. I have, I have, I have, it's funny you mentioned KFC. I actually have a little bit of kfc news myself we've just had the new year right and so with with new year's comes new year's resolutions and so we had a bit of a family conversation about some good decisions some wise decisions for the new year and we got onto talking about health and all these sorts of things, which is always dangerous ground for the family to head in.
Starting point is 00:10:47 My wife led the charge in that direction. And I was trying to change the topic back onto other things, but we stayed on that topic for a while. And the long and the short of it is I'm on a fast. So for 2022, I'm not eating KFC. I have to go without KFC for a whole year. Brady's walked out. I'm back.
Starting point is 00:11:18 That was my picture. Wow. I know. I know. We'll have to see how we go here because everyone in the family is betting that I can't do it. And so the stakes have been raised a little bit. That might be just reverse psychology to keep me on track and so forth. But, yeah, look, I don't eat KFC all the time, but I do every now and then.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And it'll be very different. Those every now and thens come around more often than annually. So I have to see how we're going to go. But that's the journey for 2022. I have to have a KFC free year. The KFC share price just took a battering. Oh, yeah. Around the world.
Starting point is 00:12:02 This will get the attention of the CEO of the Asia-Pacific area who won't reply to my letters. I asked for a gold card. If they'd sent me a gold card, this wouldn't be happening. It would make too much financial sense to give up. Okay. Well, good luck to you. Is it just KFC?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Is there any other kind of, are there any other thing that's been encompassed into this health kick or is Kfc being used as sort of the thin end of the wedge oh i think it's i it's it's supposed to be the thin end of the wedge i think it's sort of like a you know the the sort of headline if we can deal with kfc we can deal with anything kind of situation you know what i mean like let's focus on on this one thing because at least if we can do this one thing, we'll have made a considerable difference. And then we'll work on the rest of the diet and see how it follows on. Okay. I've been measuring up the distance to the red roosters around just to see if I can... I was going to say, what's the rules with sort of chicken replacement, like other chicken takeaways?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah, well, there are no other rules. I just have to, because it's KFC that I really crave. So, I think that will be the big challenge and not tasting that flavour for 12 months. I haven't done that in my entire life. So far, it's been all right. I mean, it's only, what's it been, 10 days? What's the date today?
Starting point is 00:13:24 It's the 11th. Yeah, the 11th, yeah. So, you know, I'm been all right i mean it's only what's it been 10 days what's the date today and it's the 11th yeah the 11th yeah so you know i'm doing all right i'm i mean i'm sweating obviously and you know i've got a few palpitations oh gosh all right well that's i mean i'm i'm happy for you but part of me is really disappointed because it's such a rich vein of content for our podcast so well we could still talk about it and celebrate. It might help me, actually. This is a bit like an AA meeting, really. I'll be able to process through.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Hi, my name's Tim and I'm a KFC addict. It's been, you know, 11 days since my last chicken. KFC Anonymous, I like it. That's right. So I'll give you a bit of a progress as we're going you're allowed to ask me about it that's probably good accountability for me okay would i be a bad friend if i tried to like tempt you or would that like what's my role here because my natural instinct is to like tempt you and send you pictures of kFC and stuff that's probably not really a being a good friend is it well it's hard to say don't tempt me because part of it's tempting for me to say yes please tempt me you know what I mean like it's it's a bit like saying hang on if I held
Starting point is 00:14:37 you down and force fed you KFC would that be unhelpful and I go no that would be amazing because when you're trying to get off something, you're just looking for opportunities to have a guilt-free, you know what I mean? Like, I was forced upon me. Like, I just want an opportunity. This leads me to an interesting message that's come from one of our stakeholders named Jay. Maybe this is the beginning of the end for KFC,
Starting point is 00:14:58 because listen to this message from Jay, which is appropriate at the moment, by the way, for people who don't know, Tim's actually on vacation at the moment. He's in his old home state of Victoria. And this is appropriate to this message. I found a serious issue that hopefully can be fixed with your numerous KFC connections. I was driving through Traralgon.
Starting point is 00:15:21 That's the Victorian town that Tim's from. As we all know, we talk about often. I was driving through Traralgon. That's the Victorian town that Tim's from, as we all know, which we talk about often. I was driving through Traralgon and the KFC bucket was naked. It was just a mesh bucket with no colour or logos at all. I would send in a photo, but the nude bucket is definitely not wholesome enough. If you could use your contacts to get it fixed so I don't have to go through the trauma of seeing it on my regular trips through the town. So, obviously, this is the sort of the big street sign bucket. Yeah, on the roof.
Starting point is 00:15:51 At Traug and KFC. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seems to be missing its, you know. Outer skin. No pun intended. Outer skin.
Starting point is 00:15:59 That's the word. Yes. Yeah. So, something's going on maybe this this feels symbolic on the day that tim announces his kfc fast that his hometown's kfc it's almost like the um like that curtain that ripped when jesus was on the cross what was that like a tabernacle or something it's like when tim announces his kfc his KFC ban, his hometown KFC bucket like rips apart. Is that too long a bow? Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:16:32 That's a beautiful analogy. It's not that they've just gone, oh, well, we may as well give up now and started dismantling the sign and people are dismantling KFCs all over town. It's like our number one customer has gone. What is it in the Bible when Jesus dies on the cross? What is it that rips? Well, it's in the temple. See, the temple has behind it, the Jewish temple has the presence of God, right?
Starting point is 00:16:54 The Ark of the Covenant. So the idea is when Jesus dies, the temple, which only the priest, the chief priest could go into, is ripped open because now it's available for everyone. The power of God, the presence of God is available for everyone. So it's opened up. There's no need for a temple anymore. Jesus becomes the temple for us and does everything that the temple was supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I could go on. It doesn't map quite so well on to my analogy now. All right. Okay, Jay. Well, Jay, thanks for for your message maybe now we know what's gone wrong there maybe it is somehow linked back to tim's betrayal that's right he's turning the back i would like to see a photo of that if someone's nearby torelgan can they please tweet a photo yes um i would like i've already i've already replied to jay asking for a photo? Yes. I would like to see what they mean. I've already replied to Jay asking for a photo. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I straightaway replied, photo, please. Yes, yes. That's a must. That's a must. I can't believe you didn't take a photo, to be honest. But anyway, get on the case, Jay. Or anyone in the Traralgon. Tim, you're in Victoria.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Maybe you could make the trip. I could. That's down the other side of Melbourne. It's a while away. But I don't know. A heartbreaking moment like like this it might be worth me visiting in person just a bit like when the president goes to a national tragedy or something it's it's like tim hein himself turned up today to view what's happened to the caves so it's like oh my goodness we've got to get this fixed tim hein's coming no way and when they get this fixed. Tim Hines coming. No way.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And when they get it fixed, I can see you there with a big Mission Accomplished sign behind you, like, celebrating that it's back up. And then in gratitude, they'll bring me some chicken and I'll have to say, well, actually, I'm on a fast. I'd love to know what happened. Does anyone have any connections into Trollgan KFC? Why is the sign falling apart? I'm betting refurbishment, but who knows Yep
Starting point is 00:18:49 Or maybe the people have been rioting There's been problems in Australia, hasn't there, with KFC Because of the pandemic? Has there been some problems with them not being able to Have all the ingredients or something? That's right, yeah Some food shortages Because so many people have COVID. You know, there's workers who are off because they have to stay home and isolate.
Starting point is 00:19:11 So there's been some supply issues, I think, particularly on chicken. So they'll be relieved to hear that I've gone off it for a year. That'll at least ease some of the pressure on the supply chain. Yes. The government will be like, wow, okay, that'll hold us for a while. But they do need to fix that supply chain. Yes. The government will be like, wow, okay, that'll hold us for a while. But they do need to fix that supply chain. Parish notices.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Quick message here that came in from a listener called Max, which I thought was nice, especially considering I've just been to Iceland, a snowy, icy place. Here's what Max says. Hi, Tim and Brady. I'm contacting you to let you know about a rather magical place I took the podcast. I recently took a trip in my state of Washington in the US to a town up in the mountains called Wenatchee Lake. When we arrived there, there was already three feet of snow on the ground. The whole place looked amazing. The trip was incredible, but the highlight came when
Starting point is 00:20:02 we decided to rent snowmobiles and go up to the mountains near a cabin we'd rented. When we left, it was 1 degree Fahrenheit outside, minus 17 Celsius for the metric people. It was so cold, the person who rented us the snowmobiles had to ensure that all our skin was covered so as not to develop frostbite. We naturally took lots of pictures in the snow-covered landscape. frostbite we naturally took lots of pictures in the snow-covered landscape and i managed to keep my hands out of my gloves for just long enough to take this gem photo enclosed all the best max and we have a photo of max in the snow holding his phone to show the unmade podcast playing there in that winter wonderland he risked frostbite for that photo, so I thought we had to share it. Well done, Max.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Fantastic work. I love the name Max. Yeah. Great name. It is a good name. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of stands alone.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Good Scrabble score too. Can you use names in Scrabble, can you? No, no, no, but it would have a good Scrabble score. Oh, right, okay. I like names that would have a high Scrabble score because it shows you've got unusual letters. I think I like it because of Maxwell Smart, because of Get Smart, which is a show I loved,
Starting point is 00:21:12 absolutely loved as a kid. Funny story about that, actually. Recently, I was showing a little bit of Get Smart to one of my daughters. I don't know how we got onto it, but I think on Netflix, the recent movie popped up, and I said, actually, that's from an old TV show. And then I pulled it out and showed.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And so we watched a few clips on YouTube. And, of course, that's when Max suddenly goes, that's right, 99. You know, that's right, 99. And my daughter goes, oh, that's where that's from. And she suddenly realized there are adults all around her, teachers and people at church and even, you know, my wife, her mum, who will say, that's right and she suddenly realized there are adults all around her teachers and people at church and even you know my wife her mum who will say that's right 99 and she doesn't she's just had that as an as an aphorism as a saying her whole life until she never knew where it was from and of course of course without a collective memory you don't get the get smart reference
Starting point is 00:22:00 so it was a lovely little there you go i love get smart love it here's another bit of follow-up from reddit from m pogson 51 we talked about wallets recently and m pogson 51 says i don't remember my first wallet but i do remember debating carrying it in your front or back pocket of your jeans it was such a dilemma and you would consult all your friends. Though I do remember the wallet chain growing up, which was always an option. Do you have a position on front or rear pocket for a wallet? Front, always front. I remember the time when I made the transition. I used to wear it in my back because that's, I guess, growing up, you think, oh, man, you put your wallet in your back.
Starting point is 00:22:40 But I remember after a while, oh, maybe this influenced me, actually. There was an incident where my dad had his wallet stolen he went and got his pension money out and and walking through marion shopping center dad always had this massive sort of fat wallet you know bursting out the back of his trousers and it was stolen and they ended up finding his wallet in the bin but with the cash gone i remember thinking oh yeah your wallet in the bin, but with the cash gone. And I remember thinking, oh, yeah, your wallet's exposed back there. But also, maybe that was around the same time. But I just remember thinking it was more comfortable in the front pocket and that being a bit of a personal decision.
Starting point is 00:23:18 What about you? Yeah, totally agree. Front pocket for security. But also when you sit down, if I sit on it, I'm worried I'll bend cards and stuff like that. It just feels a bit more secure. Who steals a wallet from a 100-year-old man in Marion Shopping Centre? I know.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It's crazy. Terrible. Dad should have had one of those chains on it, shouldn't he? Like the skaters used to use, just getting around Marion with a big chain attached to it. Funnily enough, one of the podcast good friends, Bruce, also wrote something on Reddit which fits in. He wrote, I remember one of my first wallets. I was living in Cheyenne, Wyoming, and he was up in Wyoming, drew a bull no man
Starting point is 00:24:00 could ride. What song is that? Beaches of Cheyenne. I was living in Cheyenne, Wyoming at the time and we had a riding stable on the Air Force Base. It was a two mile walk from our backyard and I'd go riding every chance I got. But the first time I went riding with my new wallet in my back pocket, I returned with nothing in my pocket. I panicked because I had my dependent ID card, which let me enter the base and use all the base facilities. I got a new ID, but I started carrying my wallet in my front pocket and I haven't lost one cent. So Bruce is a front pocket man as well. Yep. After the horse incident. I generally go the wallet on the left-hand side, the keys on the right. That's how I've always done
Starting point is 00:24:42 it. I'm not, I have have no i have no consistency in this area which often causes me problems yeah so you're one of these people that slap your wrist you know you're like where are my keys bang bang bang you slap you know your pockets yeah looking around yeah i bought this thing from apple one of these apple ids and put it on my key so that if i when i lost them i can use my phone to find where they are oh yeah, yeah. And since I put it on, I've never lost my keys. Oh, that's disappointing, isn't it? I lose everything else except my keys now. Funnily enough, that fits in with my idea for a podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Here's my idea for a podcast today, Tim. All right. I haven't decided on the name yet. My wife had a name for it, but it was a bit of a Tim name that i didn't like i'm gonna go a bit more i'm gonna go a bit more does what it says on the tin i'm gonna call it replaceable and this is a podcast where your hosts say tim and brady for example receive your messages of things in life that you've lost or don't have anymore. Maybe it's from your childhood. Maybe you lost it like Bruce's wallet.
Starting point is 00:25:49 For some reason, you haven't got this thing anymore. And we do what we can to either find it, if it's possible, or if not, replace it with something close enough. Can I give you an example? Okay, give me an example. Because we've spoken before about something of yours that really made an impression on me when I was younger, and that was when you went and saw the famous guitarist Tommy Emanuel.
Starting point is 00:26:15 He's a famous Australian guitarist, and you saw him at a shopping centre or something do a performance, and you asked him for his plectrum, his guitar pick, and he gave it to you. And I always thought it was really cool that you had Tommy Emanuel's his plectrum, his guitar pick, and he gave it to you. And I always thought it was really cool that you had Tommy Emanuel's guitar plectrum. And we talked about it all the time. It was a cool thing you had. And I brought it up on the show recently and I asked you if you still had it and you told me you couldn't find it. You didn't know where it
Starting point is 00:26:38 was. And I was heartbroken, Tim. I was heartbroken. Sorry, man. I was so heartbroken that I contacted Tommy Emanuel's people and told them this story and after a bit of toing and froing I'm very very pleased to reveal the following no way in this envelope we I have a personal message from the office of Tommy Emanuel, as you can see there. And inside we have, can you read that? Tim, happy new year 22. Sorry. Tim, happy new year 22. Don't lose this one, Tommy.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And there stuck to the card, the little piece of tape is one of his used plectrums. Whoa, whoa. It's a new Tommy Emanuel plectrum. What a classic. That's brilliant. Thank you, Tommy Emanuel. He also included a signed picture. Oh, that's lovely.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Do you know, as a sheer coincidence, a few weeks ago, I just looked up Tommy Emanuel on YouTube and watched a whole range of clips of him playing guitar, and I wouldn't have done that for 20 years. It just came to me. So that's a lovely connection, a lovely timing. You now have a Tommy Emanuel plectrum once more. I do.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Don't lose it this time. No, no. Don't lose it. What are you going to do with it? Wow, wow. Well, it'll go on display. I don't think I can use it, obviously, but it will go on display next to my Tom Hanks book.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Wow. What is it with me getting you presents from famous people called Tom? That's incredible. What's coming people called Tom? That's incredible What's coming from Tom Cruise? That's what I want to know I'll get in touch with him and see what I can get Nice work Thank you, thank you
Starting point is 00:28:36 That's a lovely gift, yes Don't thank me Thank Tommy Emanuel and his very helpful people Thank you Tommy and your people Wherever you are And we'll put a link to Tommy Emanuel's stuff in the show. Thank you, Tommy and your people, wherever you are. And we'll put a link to Tommy Emanuel's stuff in the show notes if people want to check him out, see some of his handiwork. Is there anything else you've lost that I can salvage for you?
Starting point is 00:28:54 I think this is a good idea. I like this idea a lot. Not just because I've benefited from it. Obviously, the dream is your old Renault. Oh, yes. Your car. I know, I know. If I could get that, I would pay almost anything for that. Maybe you could contact the people old Renault. Oh, yes. Your car. I know. I know. If I could get that, I would pay almost anything for that.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Maybe you could contact the people at Renault and see if there's another Renault 12 just around somewhere that you could have shipped to Adelaide. Yeah, I would love. I have done a bit of a search and looked up a few crash repair places where I think I sold the Renault down south. But I, a few phone calls of, you know, most people just go, nah, won't be around anymore. Nah, we'll be gone. Which I think I sold the Renault down south, but I... A few phone calls of, you know, most people just go, no, it won't be around anymore, no, it will be gone, which I think is crazy. It's gone into one of those secret Russian collections where all the stolen artworks go.
Starting point is 00:29:34 That's right, yes, yes. Sitting in some billionaire's mansion somewhere in the garage. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think this is a really good idea. I do like the idea of replacing something it has a wonderful sentimental heart to it this idea as well as being fun because there's a little bit of detective work involved but reconciling people together with their object again is is really
Starting point is 00:29:59 is a really nice idea something that they've lost. Yeah. Or that can be improved. That's the other thing. It's like we couldn't find this, but the next best thing is this, you know. And so, I like that idea a lot. Well done. Yeah. You haven't quite got the name, though, have you? It needs to be called.
Starting point is 00:30:18 No. Maybe you could call it Plectrum. Hmm. After this idea. That'll get people onto it. Yeah, that's it. Perfect. You actually came up with the worst possible name. Well done. Tommy Emanuel's Plectrum. How to make a podcast anonymous. Totally invisible.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah. That's a good idea. I like that idea. I often do this with my wife. Like she talks about things from her childhood she liked, you know, toys, cultural things. And I'll go out of my way and I'll search eBay and I'll find something and I'll give it to her as a present. It never goes down that well because normally it's just some piece of secondhand old tat. She doesn't like filling her house with old tat. Oh, right. This podcast is perfect for you.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Not so much her. It is. It's lovely to see something. I've been looking at this lately because I bought a skateboard recently for one of my daughters for Christmas. And she just wanted one. And I was so excited to go looking at skate stuff. So, immediately, of course, I wanted to project onto her, you know, the skateboard brand that I wanted when I was a kid and all that kind of stuff. So, that was cool. But it got me looking at magazines because we see the Thrasher.
Starting point is 00:31:25 There's a skate magazine called thrasher and i saw that sign up around the place i'm like oh that's still around so i went looking and i tried to find editions so i'm looking at thrasher magazine 1988 just trying to find specific covers that that i can remember and i can remember this you remember i do that i do that with shoot Like, oh, I remember I had this poster of Ian Rush on my wall. I wonder if I can find the old Shoot Magazine that it came from. Yeah, yeah. The thing I notice about them in the 1980s is the covers were so much more spare and simple. Like, they're so much more crammed onto a magazine cover these days. It's so much more glossy. And back then it was just so much
Starting point is 00:32:04 plainer. You go, oh, wow. It looks kind of amateur in a way i wonder if i can find the old tv plus magazine that had the proclaimers poster that i had on my wall for more years than i should admit to oh oh that would be good so many of those i've got all these magazines i've got all every rolling stone from the 90s and stuff but it's really going back before then that really makes it, you know, into the 80s, into childhood. Let's talk about Hover. Oh, yes. Who have sponsored today's episode.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Fantastic. Hover, the domain registrar that we love. We do. The domain registrar that we use to register our domains and you should be using too. Well, you know, just the other day, I bought a whole bunch of domain names through Hover.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It was so exciting. I went in through the slash unmade sort of area, you know, like where you're supposed to. You used our offer code to get 10% off. Absolutely. Hover.com slash unmade. I took advantage of our own offer and I went in and bought a whole bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:33:00 They were all variations for our church, for our church website, which is about to be relaunched all fresh and exciting yeah and um i thought i'd buy a different name and different variations on names and things i thought i'd snap them up while i was there fantastic yeah it was it was actually a real pleasure like oh this is so easy just like we talk about and yeah click click i told you i told you oh very satisfied customer oh good on you man i'll tell you who else is a satisfied customer emily one of our uh civilians who got in touch with the following message she said thanks to your hover discount code i got my brother the christmas present of a domain name for his dog which redirects to his dog's instagram page genius's great. I think that's a great present for someone,
Starting point is 00:33:45 especially someone who loves their dog. Buy them a domain name of their dog. Redirecting these things is so easy in the Hover interface. Like, it takes 10 seconds. Yeah. So, she's redirected WessexWilson.com for her brother's dog. And if you put WessexWilson.com, it goes to the dog's Instagram page, which is lovingly kept by her brother.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I think a domain as a present, if you think you've got all the domains you need, which is hard to imagine, I think a domain as a present is a really good idea. And if you go to hover.com slash unmade, you're going to get 10% off their already brilliant prices so uh check them out tim's been in there tim's been filling his boots before christmas so is emily don't miss out people get them while they're hot if i can do it anyone can i just went in there i have to buy domain
Starting point is 00:34:38 names let's go to hover bang just went in did everything just followed my nose basically and if i can do it click click click there we go figured it out no worries it was fun it was actually fun choosing the names and going through and buying them yeah seriously if tim can do it i reckon emily's brother's dog can probably do it and now it is time for Spoon of the Week. Very quickly before Tim regales us with a very interesting addition today, I did buy another spoon in Iceland. Whenever I go anywhere now, I can't help myself going into souvenir shops and buying spoons, so I've got another Iceland spoon.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Here it is, Tim. It's from a place called Giza, which is where there are these two famous geysers. Only one of them really works these days. But one of them's called Stroker, I think, which is the one that works. The bigger one that has stopped erupting now is called Giza. And that is the geyser where the name geyser or geyser comes from for all geysers. No way. So it's like the original. It's the name geyser or geezer comes from for all geezers. No way. So it's like the original.
Starting point is 00:35:46 It's the original geezer. And that's today's spoon. Just a little commemoration of that. There'll be a picture in the show notes. What have you got, Tim? Because as I said, you're currently on vacation. You're holidaying in Victoria away from your mother load of Hein family spoons. Does that mean you are spoonless today?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Have you got nothing to show us? Well, I've gone looking, Brady, because, you know, I don't like to come to Spoon of the Week empty-handed. So we're staying at my mother-in-law's house and I went fossicking. I thought, look, this is a person who's of a vintage where certainly there must be some souvenir spoons. a person who's of a vintage where certainly there must be some souvenir spoons. So I went hunting. There's certainly all sorts of other knickknacks. And I managed to find a stash, which aren't out on display,
Starting point is 00:36:34 which I think is a real crying shame. Souvenir spoons in a drawer is just a crime. You're hiding your light under a bushel there. That's exactly right. Yeah, you really are coming out with the biblical references today, Ben. So I managed to pull this one out. Now, look, this is something a little bit unique because today's spoon is a fork. That's right, folks. A fork.
Starting point is 00:36:58 It's Fork of the Week. It's Fork of the Week. I know. I know. Who knew they did souvenir forks? I didn't know. This is a whole other segment of our podcast i think we could start we might have to start a new podcast to accommodate this
Starting point is 00:37:13 one for all kinds of cutlery so for people who aren't looking at the picture or aren't seeing on youtube screen this is just like a souvenir spoon you You know, it has a stem, it has an enameled souvenir top with, you know, a touristy thing there, but instead of a bowl or a scoopy bit, it has what I guess Tim would call a pointy bit. A pronged bit, man. A three pronged bit. That's right. Three pronged. And one of the prongs is thicker than the others. So I think it's sort of supposed to be sort of, you know, like, like you push down sideways into cake and then prod the cake and put it in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You know, it's that kind of design. So sort of a fat one on the right-hand side and then two other prongs. Goes up a pretty plain stem, but to a very ornate top. I still don't know what the top bit's called. What's the top bit called? It's the handle, isn't it? The handle. That's very good.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yes, yes. Very practical name. The handle. That's very good. Yes, yes. Very practical name. The handle. And inside the handle is an image that I can't tell if it's a real photo or I think it may be a real photo of Burnie in Tasmania, which is a small town at the top of Tasmania. Tasmania is another state. It's a little island state below Victoria. So this is getting right, for those of you in the northern hemisphere, right down under.
Starting point is 00:38:30 This is the last little bit of land before you get to Antarctica, really. It's a little beautiful little state. Tasmania and this little town, Burnie, is where my wife was born. It's quite obvious why they have a fork from Bernie. She was born in Bernie and she lived there until she was about eight years old or so. I've been there with her and driven around. We've been through Tassie. Do you go there for little holidays and stuff? No, we don't do that. Would you go there for a couple of days and call it a weekend at Bernie?
Starting point is 00:39:07 That's fair. I love that. Oh, no, I wouldn't go over my dead body, man. Oh, this is brilliant. Bernie is an industrial town. It has, like, a paper mill and stuff like that. In fact, Australian rock band Midnight Oil have a song called Bernie, which is a bit of a dystopian kind of song, really.
Starting point is 00:39:33 But there we go. Yeah. Now, we have our own spoon, our own Unmade Podcast souvenir spoon. We like to give one away each episode to one of our stakeholders, one of our Patreon supporters. Today, the spoon is going to Liam B from London. Liam B, thank you for your support and I hope you enjoy that spoon which will find its way to you in the post sometime soon. We're also giving away one of our Sofa Shop mixtapes as we like to do. That's to april nd from orlando florida congratulations april and a handful of
Starting point is 00:40:08 spoon of the week collector cards i hope one day that fork might be immortalized on a collector card but for now it's not but uh you might have to take that spoon home with you now so we can have a professionally photographed i will i'll be putting it straight into my bag. Okay. Very good. So basically you've come to your mother-in-law's for a week and stolen a fork. I love it. So we're giving a handful of Spoon of the Week collector cards to Wessel from the Netherlands, Francisco from New York,
Starting point is 00:40:40 Kyle from Las Vegas. And this is kind of amazing. Grace from Michiganigan my computer algorithm chose you twice in a row you your number came up twice uh there is a very complicated algorithm that chooses these winners it is weighted towards longer term and more generous people but everyone has a chance grace you just you just got you just won twice in a row. That's amazing. Well done. And by the way, Tim, you know how I also had those Tim Hine autograph guitar plectrums made? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Those guitar picks? Yep. You've got some of those, haven't you? Oh, yeah. I thought maybe to celebrate the Tommy Emanuel plectrum moment, we would give away some of those plectrums to five of our stakeholders as well, if that's all right with you. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:25 No, I love those picks. All right. So I'm going to send one to Cody from Calgary, Leo from France, Jack and Robin from Athens, Georgia, Henry from Victoria in Australia, where Tim is right now. Nice. Who knows? Stones throw away.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And Joe from Kentucky, coincidentally. So there you go. It's not rigged. Seems wrong to send one to Kentucky but not to Iceland at the same time. I feel like we should be sending it to both of those or neither. I can't control it, Tim. It's pure randomness. It's the rules.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Before we get to Tim's idea for a podcast, which I am excited about, can I just do a quick idea I had before the show? You know I'm quite often influenced to things that happen right before the show starts. And I've had an idea for a podcast called My Stupid Injury, where people talk about stupid ways in which they injured themselves, because I injured myself about half an hour ago in a truly stupid way. Yeah, do tell. So, because of COVID, our rubbish bins weren't emptied a couple of weeks ago so it's been four weeks since the bins were emptied so it's getting really full so it's bin day tomorrow so i was trying to stuff in the final bag into one of these big tall wheelie bins to try and get as
Starting point is 00:42:41 much in as possible and it was coming out over the top so I needed to press it down as much as I could. But I didn't want to use my hands because that's not very safe if there's something in there, sharp maybe, and also who wants to put their hands into a rubbish bin? So the top plastic bag that was sort of bursting out the top of the green bin, I wanted to push down. And all I could think to do was kind of lean over and use sort of my
Starting point is 00:43:06 upper to middle chest to sort of push it all down to kind of almost lie over the top of the bin and just use all my body weight and chest to push it down yep and i was pushing really hard and it wasn't going so i pushed harder and harder and suddenly bang i had this incredible sharp pain in my chest which i still have when i move in certain ways and i'm beginning to think maybe i've cracked a rib all right because i'm feeling it i'm feeling it just there i hope i haven't but if i've cracked a rib i've managed to crack a rib pushing a garbage bag into a wheelie bin with my chest and And I think that's a really stupid way to injure yourself. That is, certainly.
Starting point is 00:43:51 It always amuses me when you do something like physically in terms of work around the place. That's always a great amusement to me. But I thought you were going to say like something had pierced through. That's what I thought had happened at first. I thought there'd been a piece of glass in there or something and i'd stabbed myself for about 10 seconds i was like oh my god i've just killed myself and i like i stood up and like walked into the house in the pain thinking what have i done and i was looking is there blood is something wrong i couldn't see anything and
Starting point is 00:44:17 then after about 10 seconds or so it sort of subsided and i thought oh i've got away with that but now when i lie down and move in certain ways, I'm feeling this pain just about there as I point to you, Tim. Maybe you've made something a bit vulnerable through your tennis work that has popped. Well, I don't know. I'm due to play tennis tomorrow. I'm a bit worried now. That's my right side as well.
Starting point is 00:44:41 That's my strong side, my forehand. There's not a bone protruding through the skin or anything? Presumably you've seen, you would have seen that. I don't think so. Not that I've noticed. I was in a hurry because we were recording, so I haven't had a close look yet. I'll have a look later for bones protruding.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Right. Have you ever injured yourself in a truly stupid way? Surely you have. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Many, multiple times. I don't think I've ever injured myself in what you'd call a normal pedestrian sort of way, like an appropriate injury. I feel like all my injuries come through stupid things.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Like I broke my arm when I was a kid falling out of a tree, which sounds like a normal kid thing to do, except the reason I fell out of the tree was because I was pulling up my socks. Like I realised my socks were down. And Dad always says, make sure you pull up your socks. So, I went, oh, hello. So, I reached down to pull up my socks and fell out of the tree and broke my arm. Nice. That's good. I've broken my left arm three times.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Two of them were stupid-ish. One of them was okay. One of them was playing football, soccer, which I think is pretty cool. Oh, yeah. Sports injury. One was jumping off a cubby house when I was really young. Me and my friend were blowing up balloons and then releasing them to fly away. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Like, you know, and then they would land on the ground. We'd have to climb down the stairs of the cubby to fetch them, blow them up again and release them. And I got sick of going down the stairs all the time. So, I decided to just jump and broke my arm. That was a bit stupid, but you know, I was a little kid. And the other time was I was hanging on a horizontal rope tied between two trees. I was hanging onto it upside down and my friends were rocking me side to side. I was sort of hanging onto it like a like a sloth hanging off a branch and then a big strong semi-school bully type guy came up and gave it a huge yank so big that I couldn't hold on and I got thrown many feet up into the air and then landed and broke my arm semi-stupid not as stupid as filling a rubbish bin with your chest. I love the guy.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I can just imagine you being flung 20 metres like in a Roadrunner or a Looney Tunes cartoon. It was full on. My wife has a good one. Years ago, when she was with a previous boyfriend, she injured herself loading her boyfriend's huge, massive computer into a car because he wanted it brought to him so he could play computer games and because of logistics she had to load it into the car for him because he was somewhere else
Starting point is 00:47:11 and she injured herself loading this huge computer into the car luckily she hardly ever brings it up and she hates computer games I can imagine she would have hated that he was always playing computer games. Yeah. To injure herself loading his computer rig into a car
Starting point is 00:47:30 has a sort of a something, doesn't it? An irony, maybe? I used to use, at work, a Stanley knife, we call it, or a pack knife, I think. I'm not sure what you call them. To open boxes when I was on night field. Like a box cutter? Box cutter.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Like a box cutter. That's what they're often called too. And to restock the shelves in the supermarket. I don't know if people know this, but every time the supermarket closes, all these little elves come in and restock the shelves and face it up and everything like that. And I did that. And there were so many times, because you'd be sort of leaning over
Starting point is 00:48:00 and you're slashing this knife everywhere to rip open a box and put things up up it's so often that i would nick my knees so i would cut and i so generally i would i would get i know it's very cool you know these days to have jeans with like um you know ripped knees but i would literally be ripping my knees just because i'd always i'd throw it so hard it'd nick through the knee and then into my skin so i'd be forever nicking and cutting my knees and ending up with ripped jeans through the process as well like genuinely ripped jeans so one of my favorite tim memories to go on a total tangent was this was at a time when tim was stacking supermarket shelves every night he was like it just took over his life as he was like
Starting point is 00:48:38 you know trying to earn money and he was he always seemed to be at food land stocking shelves and for some reason you had a night off which was incredible but you seemed to be at Foodland stocking shelves. And for some reason, you had a night off, which was incredible. But you seemed to be working every night. You had a night off. You came around to my place and we were watching TV. And I was on the sofa and you were sort of sitting on the ground in front of me. And then you fell asleep on the ground, like lying in front of me. And I was just watching a movie.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And Tim was asleep, you know, a few feet in front of me lying on the floor. And suddenly in his sleep, Tim jumped up onto like his knees and was sort of kneeling looking at the tv and then he just started stacking shelves he just started moving his hands as if he was placing boxes on shelves and arranging things in his sleep for like about five minutes he just he just stood there sleep stacking these invisible shelves. And I was like, man. And then eventually after five minutes or so, you just laid back down again and went to sleep. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Like I know people sleepwalk and do things in their sleep. But Tim was actually stacking Foodland supermarket shelves in his sleep. That is so weird. That is so bizarre. I totally understand that though You get into a zone And I must have been doing it so often That I could do it in my sleep
Starting point is 00:49:50 That's crazy Today's episode has been brought to you by Storyblocks Oh great Yes Happy about that? Oh you're very happy It's a new year but Storyblocks is still awesome Go to storyblocks.com
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Starting point is 00:50:55 I went to Storyblocks. They had loads of options. I downloaded some parchments for what I was doing. It's also where Brady got all the Iceland footage that's playing on the YouTube version of this. Come away. The Iceland footage is mine. Although they do have some nice Iceland footage on Storyblocks. You can also check out their Restock project, which they've been running for a while now. They're really upping their game on diverse and inclusive content
Starting point is 00:51:18 across the library. It's very important to them. I know they're very proud of it, and it's something worth checking out as well. In fact, maybe you should download some Storyblocks footage and play it up on the screen sometimes during your sermons. So during like boring parts of your sermon, people can watch like, you know, some B-roll. Have they got that much footage to cover the boring part? They could do it.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Storyblocks could even make Tim sermons interesting. I do actually like the idea of having something on the screen that's not cognitive. You know, that's just something playing, like a bit of landscape in the background or something like that that's moving. Storyblocks also has loads of like abstract things, which is just kind of, you know, like lights and sort of screen savery type stuff. They've got loads of that really good abstract stuff. And you can also, if you search loop or loopable in Storyblocks, you'll find bits of video footage that play and then play again and play again and play again. And you don't see the joins, the footage kind of loops.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Oh, nice. So you can have some lovely pattern on there, but you haven't got those jarring edits. They're really good. I use loopable stuff on storyblocks all the time check them out check them out storyblocks.com slash unmade nice we're thankful for their sponsorship and support of our podcast as well thank you storyblocks you're awesome all right tim what's your idea for a podcast oh well my idea came as it does through our text message conversation so we we have a text message
Starting point is 00:52:45 friendship essentially because we live on opposite sides of the world so we're back and forward all the time every day it's a bit like an ongoing podcast on text message but i was throwing this idea around and you said actually that's a really really great idea for a podcast and then i i thought i'd actually thought of this as an idea and i'd been too impatient because we're on our sort of christmas new year's break and i'm like i have to share this with brady like right now so but it is i think basically if tim's got a joke or something he thinks funny he can't wait for the podcast no no clearly we don't bring our best stuff to the podcast this idea i haven't got a name for it, but you can think of a name. You're apparently so wonderful at thinking of names that I'll leave
Starting point is 00:53:33 that bit to you. But I was thinking about a favourite television program. So I was watching The West Wing again the other day, which I haven't watched for several years, and I really love it. It's one of those ones that's quality enough to come back to. And I was enjoying it, but there are a couple of characters who are not great, who are aggravating. And they seem to be even more aggravating now that I know everyone so well. Like there's your favourites and then there's your aggravating ones. And the two that are not great,
Starting point is 00:54:00 one is Mandy, who's legendarily a character who was written out after the first series because everyone found her pretty annoying as a character. I'm sure she's a lovely person. And the other character is Donna, who I'm finding who's the kind of the person who's in the show so that the main characters have someone to explain things to so the audience understands them. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Exposition. Yeah. Yeah. So, tell me, Joshosh how does the supreme court work well they choose a judge you know and then you know what i mean so she's forever the person who doesn't know things or is the naive voice which can be endearing but in donna i don't find endearing so i actually thought about what if you took those two characters mandy and donna and they had their own show a political consultancy where they just whine about Josh who they love and it's like Mandy and Donna you know and they yeah they they just essentially the two worst characters whine together and talk about the things they have in common they're both
Starting point is 00:54:56 madly in love with this Josh character and um talk about him and get up to their new antics of whining and over-explaining. And Mandy would be the patronising over-explainer. And Donna would be the, you know, why is this happening? And where's Josh? And Josh emailed me. And anyway, so that got you. And you rightly pointed out something that I'd already sort of thought about.
Starting point is 00:55:19 It's a good idea for a podcast. Bad spin-offs. Bad spin-offs of TV shows. Yeah. So there we go. Badinoffs i like it what what are some what are some of the worst possible spinoffs you could come up with for tv shows and movies i've been thinking a bit about this too i know you've thought some more if you've got a few more i've got i've got a few suggestions i've got a few here yeah how about this one this is a spino-off from Star Wars. Oh, yeah. And it's called The Tosche Station, right?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Because you know how Luke wants to go to the Tosche Station and then Uncle Owen says you can waste time with your friends when your chores are done. Imagine a show that's just set at the Tosche Station and it's just Luke and all these teenage, whingy friends wasting time, a bit like clerks or something. They're just sitting around at the Tosche Station, kicking rocks and talking crap, wasting time a bit like clerks or something they're just sitting around at the toshi station kicking rocks and talking crap wasting time just like teenage angst at the toshi station that's a good idea yeah yeah that's great we never go to the toshi station do we
Starting point is 00:56:17 we never see it it's only ever spoken about it no i don't know well i guess they never needed those power converters that's right power converters are us and the station that's nice i saw i saw a really good comment the other day where someone pointed out that bobba fett is just short for that was very cool some shows have tried there have been bad spin-offs for real don't they it's when something in of course there's always really crappy ideas and it's always interesting to see which character's going to get you know offered the contract to do the show and you think ah no that's not going to work you know what offered the contract to do the show, and you think, ah, no, that's not going to work. You know what I mean? Like- Joni and Chachi from Happy Days. Yes, that's right. Joey from Friends.
Starting point is 00:57:11 He got one, didn't he? And famously, the Michael Richards show from, you know, Kramer from Seinfeld. And you think, ah, that's not going to work. That's not going to work. Because he's not going to be Kramer either. So, anyway. What have you got?
Starting point is 00:57:23 Well, I thought of 90210, right? Legendary program, a show called Mr. And Mrs. Walsh in retirement. So the retirement years. So the kids have all gone and grown up and we're just left with Mr.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And Mrs. Walsh, Brandon and Brenda's parents who were just there to support the stories, really, you know, to be the safe characters and so forth. But we just sit down with them as they transition into retirement and just go to, like, live in a retirement village in Florida or something.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I had one just like that, which was called Different Strokes, The Declining Years. After all the kids leave, Mr Drummond just dies old and alone in his apartment in New York. Lou squanders all his fortune. I do like in the Office came up with this idea themselves, the UK version of the Office, which is our sort of unmade podcast favourite version.
Starting point is 00:58:24 There was that idea that was mooted because Gareth Keenan, Gareth has that investigative sort of idea and he sort of wants to do an idea. And I know that they muted the idea of doing a spinoff called Gareth Keenan Investigates, where Gareth becomes a detective who investigates to drill down on different issues in workplaces. I do like that idea. Yeah, yeah. How about this one? This is from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Remember, like, the baddie, the evil priest guy that is in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?
Starting point is 00:58:52 Mola Ram? That rips out... Mola Ram, that's right. My TV show is called Mola Ram Rips Out Hearts. And each episode is about another character whose heart Mola Ram rips out at the end. But we learn their story first. We learn all about them and their story.
Starting point is 00:59:09 And at the end, they die in the big volcanic chamber and Mola Ram rips out their heart. And they get lowered into the lava. That made such an impact on me, that scene. Oh, yeah. It was so dark, wasn't it? Scared the Jesus out of me. I did it. I did it the other day to someone at the table.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Who was it? I think it was to my wife or something. You ripped out someone's heart? Yes, yes, I did. I did. The whole thing pushed in. Kung, kung, kung, kung, kung. Just to have some fun.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Gosh. Without the scene on the bridge, right? Without the bridge scene, Temple of Doom is just this really dark sort of satanic sort of festival, isn't it, really? Like it's just a big, massive, occultish seance. It's really- Yeah, it's a terrible- I don't like it. I like the-
Starting point is 00:59:54 When I was little, I liked the chase in the mine carts, although that really hasn't stood the test of time. No. And the opening scene in the nightclub's pretty cool. But you've got Willie there, you know, yeah. Yeah, she doesn't work. It's a real aberration. It is funny that that one in the most recent one. Well, so is the last one.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I know, I know. That's just terrible. It's so funny. The other two are just amazing films. And then the two, every second one seems to be great. Are they making another one? Is there another Indiana Jones coming? I think there is talk of that, yeah. you got this is one that's i would genuinely
Starting point is 01:00:28 love to see which is you know how there was cheers and then one of the most successful spinoffs of all time is frazier i actually would love to see cliff claven have his own show he's my favorite character on cheers he's just. You forgot what this is about. It's supposed to be terrible spin-off. Oh, yeah. No, okay. This was my last idea. I just thought that was a great idea. Okay, terrible spin-off.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Sorry. Well, who's my least favourite character? Carla? Yeah, maybe Carla. Yeah, Carla goes home. Yeah, Carla at home with her. She's got like 10 kids and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:04 How about this one? gadget 2022 and it's a new inspector gadget that does away with all the silly stuff and uh you know like mallets and springs on your shoes and he goes totally wireless and online and has no gadgets just use his iphone for everything. That's another segue back to a connection to earlier, because the guy that does Mac... Don... What's his name? Don Adams. Adams.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Who plays Maxwell Smart, does his voice, doesn't he? Nice connection. He does the voice of Inspector Gatchap in the cartoon. He does indeed. My next idea is law and order, typing up the reports. So this is the bits that are... Just like law and order white-collar crime. Just forensic accounting.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Get rid of all the special victims and the murders and stuff. Let's just do white-collar fraud. Audits. Let's go through these documents slowly carefully go and get a coffee come back sit down again oh i've got a sore neck now back into these documents again yeah yeah the going through document scenes in films and tv shows is so interesting isn't it it? It's just so satisfyingly quick. It's just like flick, flick, flick, flick, flick. Oh, flick back a few. Flick forward. Flick back. There it is. It's the same little dance all the time. There's one of those great ones. I think one of the best acted ones is in the first Mission Impossible movie with Tom Cruise
Starting point is 01:02:40 where he's looking, he's typing for something online like trying to do a password and a job or job. And he looks up at a Bible and he's like, oh, hello, maybe this. And he opens it up and he's flicking through. He's doing that flicking through acting scene, you know, flick through middle of the book, back forwards, back. And I'm like, that guy can find Job in the Bible quicker than anyone in my congregation.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Like he's doing. He should be. In Sunday school, we had something called a sword drill, where you'd like, you know, here's a scripture verse, and oh, you've got to go find it quickly. Who's found it? Yes, I've found it, you know, in the Bible. Because the Bible is like known as the sword of the spirit. It's like a metaphoric language.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Right. But I think Tom Cruise would win that every time because he finds. Joe. Tom Cruise can even make looking up scriptures look cool. He does. He looks really awesome. I flick back and forward and he's flick, you know, it's just that sort of browse through.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Yes, yes, yes, yes. Or when they're looking up, you know, and then they run their finger down the page. Aha. Tap, tap. There it is. That's a great sort of little moment of acting as well, isn't it? Did you watch the TV show Borgen, which was about Danish politics?
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yes, I did. Yes, I love that. Yeah. So they used to have some great montages and they did it a few times. It became a bit of a running joke in our house because obviously that's a pretty like, you know, it's just about politicians and that. But sometimes they would have this, you know, we need to get this new law written or we need to research something and they'd pull an all-nighter and they would have these music montages and all people were doing in the montage was like looking at bits of paper and photocopying stuff and have these like photocopying montages it was like
Starting point is 01:04:17 we used to love that it was so boring but can i just say that that was as much action as you get yeah that's right that's right. That's right, yeah. There was lots of... I love that they had a stand-up desk in the newsroom for their meetings, so they'd come together, rather than sitting down around a table, which is a bit more boring, they'd have those stand-up meetings around that little table, and I thought, I'd love to go to one of those, just to be there.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Right, who's got what? Bang, bang, bang. Yeah, most unrealistic depiction of journalism ever. That used to drive us crazy as well there was that lead character that woman who would be like she gets sacked from the newspaper and you think oh my whole life is falling apart and then the tv station say do you want to come and present the news tomorrow like you know she just had the best life that's good one of the one of the um directorial cliches as well is if someone's photocopying something,
Starting point is 01:05:07 you don't focus on the thing being photocopied. You shoot their face with the ray of light going across their face and then back again. I'm like, do these people not ever put the cover down? Like how the hell? That never happens to me. This giant safe cover on our photocopier, you close that down, there's no light getting out anywhere.
Starting point is 01:05:25 But it's a classic. Got any more terrible spinoffs for us before we go? Oh, I was thinking of the most aggravating. When I got onto Cheers and got onto Frasier, I did think of Niles Goes Shopping. So the character Niles is pretty aggravating going shopping. But that's not particularly funny. Are we going to invite other people's terrible spin-off ideas?
Starting point is 01:05:48 I think that's a good idea. Get some other people to bring some fresh angles on this one. Get on it, people. You can email us, you can Reddit, you can tweet us, you can do all that stuff. We'd love to hear your terrible ideas. We live for terrible ideas, as you probably learnt over the last 100-odd episodes.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Well, enjoy the rest of your day. Enjoy your holidays. And keep strong on the KFC, man. Keep strong on the KFC. I will. Fast. I haven't located where it is in the town I'm in yet, which is good, so as long as I can keep away from it.
Starting point is 01:06:22 But it's the smell. That's the thing you drive past and that smell is just it's just wonderful isn't it man do you think you're going to up your mcdonald's to kind of redress the balance no no i think i think it's implied within my restrictions for kfc that uh it's supposed to have a flow on effect into other areas as well so that was all part of the conversation. And other members of the family have made sort of decisions and commitments around those sorts of things, resolutions.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Did you make any New Year's resolutions? No, I haven't really this year. No, I haven't. I want to carry on some good behaviours that I'm trying to do, keep exercising more, eat a bit better. I can easily go without KFC. KFC is not a problem for me. What about McDonald's?
Starting point is 01:07:08 Oh, no, that's different. That's different. Well, come on. Yeah. Here's a challenge. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Well, I can't go McDonald's free in 2022 or I've already broken that duck.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Oh, right. Okay. How many times in 11 days? Only once. Okay. All right. Yeah, right. Okay. How many times in 11 days? Only once. Okay. All right. Yeah, once. But I was in Iceland for...
Starting point is 01:07:29 I've been in Iceland for most of 2022 and they haven't got McDonald's. All right. You still managed to sneak it in. Oh, nice work.

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