The Unmade Podcast - 105: Throwing Eggs at a Rolls-Royce

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

Tim and Brady discuss green rooms, Tim's KFC Ban, a sitar cover, a keyring, first flights, a blurry spoon, Moon of the Week, and people or moments that changed our lives. Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to hover.com/unmade - https://www.hover.com/Unmade Go to Storyblocks for stock video, pictures and audio at storyblocks.com/unmade - https://www.storyblocks.com/unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/ Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://youtu.be/ZytoGXC6Bfs USEFUL LINKS KFC Black Card article - https://twistedfood.co.uk/how-get-kfc-black-card Sitar - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitar Check out many of our Sofa Shop Covers here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRNeH_Kpl1ZgpeiNeJ-oiAQ Derek's keyring - https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5990824849fc2b4c4fe4211b/1644332849105-IVFBN86529AI5XET82P7/IMG-4864.jpg?format=2500w Episode 75 - https://www.unmade.fm/episodes/episode75 Tim ands Mrs Hein sleep on the flight - https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5990824849fc2b4c4fe4211b/1644332851631-75PYFG7ATMNDWT577F3K/IMG_1291.JPG?format=2500w Patrons share their first flight stories - https://www.patreon.com/posts/first-plane-62186401 The SBS SkyBus - https://www.unmade.fm/press-play Brady's initial blurry view of Tim's spoon - https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5990824849fc2b4c4fe4211b/1644333016683-723V5LD5Y33UWFO6VVZZ/Screen+Shot+2022-02-08+at+14.05.38.jpg?format=2500w Pictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week The Moons of Pluto - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Pluto The Three Sisters - https://bluemountainstoursydney.com.au/attractions/three-sisters/ Eggs thrown at Queen's car - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2164877.stm

All right. How are you? Oh, well, you asked me that already, off camera. No, I'm asking you now for the civilians. You asked me that in the green room out the back before. All right. In the green room. In the green room before, and we were chatting. It's so weird to come out here now and it's all artificial.

I had to take out all the red M&Ms for Tim because he doesn't like those. I like things. I don't normally have other people in the green room with me, but I thought, well, we've been doing a few episodes now so if you were a rock star which you kind of are in some ways yeah what would be your green room rider thing you know how you always hear the funny stories about what people insist on in their green room what would be your like rider i like the idea of it being quite establishment and ostentatious like i know the rolling stones have a billiard table so i I know the Rolling Stones have a billiard table So I do like the idea of having a billiard table backstage

Just in case you feel like playing You know pool or snooker before going out I'd want a scalextric set So I could just have a little scalextric race car races Before going out Like all set up Someone has to make it every time On a billiard table

That's right And then another billiard table In case you want to play billiards. Yeah. Hey, look, speaking of riders and, you know, gourmet food to have in the green room, how's Operation KFC going? Very well. Very well. I drive past with a feeling of self-righteousness and aloofness

like i still nod at the colonel and give a little salute but it's a little knowing you're not getting me this time and sometimes i brag to the car about how we're driving past and we're not by eating kfc even though you know we're nowhere near a meal time or anything like that. Yeah. It's going very well. Yes. I'm very motivated. You know how like Jesus did that 40 days in the wilderness? Yes. And the devil like tried to tempt him.

And I remember in like illustrated Bible books, there would always be a picture of like Jesus like standing on a cliff or in the desert or something. And there would be some figure next to him that represented the devil trying to tempt him yes i like to think of you in the wilderness just standing with the colonel and the colonel's just offering you different meal deals and buckets and feeds and that and you're just like no matter what he comes up with you're just like standing firm i will not be swayed and he's going he starts off with some of the rogue ones, you know, like, oh, you know, this one's from Henley Beach Road. And I'm like, nah.

And then he's like, all right, here's one from Mitchum. So, oh, hello. That's more like it. He's found my weak spot. What if I throw in a Zinger burger? No, just go on. Just have the chips. Because this is the thing.

Just the chips. Just the chips. Start with the thing just the chips just the chips start with the chips do kfc chips count in your year-long fast yes they do yes no no kfc i will not purchase an item from kfc yeah right the chicken doesn't count obviously i'm happy i'm allowed to have the chicken just nothing else would you be allowed to use one of their moist towelettes? Oh, that's, oh, look. I think on principle, I might abstain from them as well. Because that's not too hard because they're fundamentally unnecessary for anything in life, except if you're eating KFC.

You know what I mean? Like they're the heavy duty stuff that you only need for for the chicken what i mean is like there are industrial cleaners that are using products that are less powerful than those those towelettes so they should be redundant for my year i know i mean when they have those like those huge oil spills in america they just come in with 20 of those towelettes and the whole problem solved. The trouble is the oil spill was caused by someone spilling KFC in the ocean anyway. Evan, who is one of our civilians, has decided not to be particularly helpful and he sent us in a message with a link to an article that I found very interesting which relates to the mythical KFC gold card which you've been lobbying for for many years now. Yes. He actually sent a link to this

article that sheds a lot of light on the matter and it's not the gold card that KFC make available it's actually a KFC black card that is the thing that you're after and they do give these cards out to various people uh one person who has one is a reality TV star in the UK called Joey Essex. I don't know if you've heard of him, but he's famous here. And he has one of these black cards and he talked about it in an interview recently. The card itself is made of metal. It's black colored. It's made of metal.

And it entitles the holder to 200 pounds worth of free food every day. So I don't know, what's that about? 300 Aussie bucks or so? 350 or 350 or so you got 300 bucks a day so i mean you know even you'd struggle to reach that yeah yeah he told uh this morning the tv show that he has when he says the card comes in particularly handy on dates i don't know how much food his dates eat but anyway he said this is a quote from him in 2017 i've got a black card. It's metal and everything. You get 200 pounds a day on it.

So it's just a wallop and give them this card and getting bare KFC everywhere. That's incredible. Apparently, there was also a video game competition a while ago where the winner, the winning gamer was also given one of these KFC black cards. It was the first prize. So it's not a gold card. It's a black card. Right.

So that's why they haven't responded. We've got the wrong name, the wrong colour. A black card. If KFC gave you a black card tomorrow, what would you do? Well, that's, I mean, talk about bad timing. In my 45, what is it, 46 years or so? And then the one year I decide to give up kfc i get a black maybe that's it's and it's valid only for this year kfc all right it's safe now we know

we won't i think you'd maybe have to postpone your fast for a year my goodness me it'd be incredible just to have and to frame and put on the wall like you'd want to you know like here it is break in cases of emergency that That's right. But it's just got broken, like it's already broken. Like it's like that lasted till lunch. That is very cool and nightclubby and that sort of thing, isn't it? You know? Yeah.

I think that is, I think that's cooler than gold. I have been having a lot of people sending me like tweeting and sending images, trying to tempt me. And I've, I've just risen above that immature behaviour. Yes, I'm just able to float right across it. I don't think people realise the fortitude that Tim has, what they're dealing with. I don't think they realise how much harder we're going to have to try to make him break this fast.

Come on, people, get creative. Just because I'm salivating doesn't mean i'll break just start sending unsolicited kfc meals to melvin uniting why didn't i try this last year it's a wonderful reverse psychology just to get a heap of kfc send me the black card kfc you know i won't use it that's. It's safe with me. Yeah. We've had another sofa shop cover come in. You know we still love receiving them if you are so inclined. Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop.

Here's a message before I play it. Hello, Tim and Brady. Many years ago, I took sitar lessons in India and ended up getting carried away and bought a sitar. After returning to the UK, I never quite got around to dedicating my life to mastering the instrument. So it ended up gathering dust before I finally decided to donate it to charity today. However, before saying farewell, I thought I'd give it one last hurrah by attempting a rendition of the sofa shop on it which is unsurprisingly wonky on my part and in no way does justice to the beautiful instrument

but I hope you enjoy it anyway. That message came from Michael. So here is the sofa shop played on his sitar which is about to be donated to charity from Michael. I think the sitars are a little bit like the bagpipes, very divisive. People either love it or hate it. And I love the bagpipes. I'm not so crash hot on the sitar, I have to say. No? No. I thought you might like it i thought you might have some interesting story about the time nick cave spent four years living on a

mountaintop and playing sitar or something like no perish the thought just the beatles that got seduced by that yeah george harrison brought that in i skipped the sitar influence songs i like george harrison songs but not the sitar ones that don't do it for me i have to say it's also that's the first time i've heard the sitar played realistically like i don't want to be too harsh like but generally when you hear the sitar because we're not it's not like an acoustic guitar sitting around playing you know trying things out you generally hear someone play it professionally like on on a Beatles song or something. But it is nice to hear someone, you know, having a go and go, okay, this does actually sound like it's being mastered slowly.

I also respect Michael for realising he couldn't play the sitar and therefore not playing it and then donating it to charity, unlike Tim who can't play the guitar and still insists on playing his and, like, making people listen to him play it. He keeps bashing away at it. That's right. charity, unlike Tim, who can't play the guitar, but still insists on playing his and making people listen to him play it. He keeps bashing away at it. That's right. I do like the idea of this sitar haunting him and reminding him of this phase where

he got all swept away by the emotion of his holiday to India and thought he was going to be, you know, years later, he was like, like that rowing machine I had that I thought was going to transform my life and ended up just being used as a clothes drying rack. And that other time you got swept up with that clothes drying rack and just sat there. He ended up using it for rowing. Anyway, sitter, sofa shop, cover. Thank you very much, Michael. That's not a bad idea.

I have to say that idea of things I got swept up in the spur of the moment. And it's particularly if you've gone and bought a heap of stuff, you know, like a particular sport or, you know, like you're saying with your exercise machine. Numerous gym memberships. Yeah, yeah. Speaking of Sofashop, by the way, here's an interesting message we got from a colonel, no less. Colonel Derek Nirenberg. That's an unmade colonel, by the way, not an actual colonel.

I understand. Hi, Brady. I know this is a bit late to be talking about a Christmas gift, but I thought this one deserved recognition. I wanted to show you and Tim what my close friend Amanda got Jake the oboist, who is also a colonel, and me. Attached is a picture of a keychain that says Proof of Colonelship 2021. There'll be a picture in the show notes and on screen right now.

Along with a Spotify code that links to episode 75 where you featured jake's performance of my arrangement she got one for each of us hope your 2022 is going well from derrick now for people who don't remember who derrick is derrick arranged a performance of the sofa shop to be performed on the century tower carillon bells at the university of florida and his friend Jake the oboist played it and we were so impressed and we got a bit swept away in the heat of the moment we gave out colonelships that was episode 75 so Amanda has given him a little

souvenir with a link to the episode and I thought that was a really clever gift and worthy of a recognition. That certainly is yeah and it looks cool too the episode and i thought that was a really clever gift and worthy of a recognition that certainly is yeah and it looks cool too i like it yeah they were given certificates of colonelship by the way uh you know you didn't just let it go by but you're not going to walk around with that all day long are you you're going to keep that in a safe so this is something that you can show other people you're quite going to keep that in a safe you're right do you know what i went

back and listened to episode 75 because i wanted to be reminded of that moment i wanted to hear it again before reading this out you know episode 75 is an absolute cracker tim really i i put it on just to listen to the start and i just kept listening we were on great form oh fantastic i was sitting there laughing thinking these guys are brilliant Are you sure it was our show? It was. It was amazing. Even the Hover ad was great. I tell you what.

It's nice to know we had a purple patch in the 70s there. Our listeners are spoiled. In fact, we should just stop this episode now and just start playing Episode 75. Just rerun it. That's good. now and just start playing episode 75 stop now people and go back and listen to episode 75 that's where it's at that's where it's at this would be interesting to see in the stats the bump if people do that um but go and check it out that was the one where we talked about uh our strategic vision 2030 oh yeah yeah yeah yeah well there's a lot of good material there, isn't there?

That's for sure. Those were the days. Those were the days. Those were the days. I haven't mentioned my cold yet. Do I still sound really nasal? I'd forgotten because I think you sound great. Yep.

Yeah. I think it's a thing podcasters do. They always apologize for how their voice sounds because they think they sound really different and no one ever notices it until they even bring it up. So I shouldn't have brought it up. It's like I'm talking to Demi Moore. It's got a lovely gravelly sort of thing, but no, it's pretty good. Let's just get on with the show, shall we?

That's right. Here's an idea for a podcast. Last episode, right, there was just a throwaway line from our guest Destin Sandlin where he talked about his trip to New Zealand and he mentioned it was his first time on a plane and I believe he said it was also his grandfather's first time on a commercial flight and it made me think is there a podcast idea in my first flight where people talk about their first ever time on a plane because it seems to be something burned into a lot of people's memories the first time they ever flew on a plane and quite often it seems to have a story associated

with it i'm learning do you remember your first time on a plane well yeah well my very first time you'll love this was when i was about three and a half we went to holland yeah we went to holland yeah all right go on then i was backpacking around most of Europe at that stage. Pretty crazy years though, three and a half through four. How well do you remember the flight if you were so young? I do remember it. One of the things, and I think I may have mentioned this previously, is the cool moment I was taken up to the cockpit.

That was pretty amazing. Yeah. But I do, we've got a couple of photos of me just to sound asleep you know on a leaning up against mum you know sound asleep and when i look at that oh yes that looks familiar and feels familiar but the distance and time and i must have slept most of it i don't remember sitting there going oh this is a long flight like i do now you know whining and longing to get there it seemed to be over very quickly one other thing was i remember looking out the window and because mum and dad had built up that you know while we're

in holland there's going to be snow so when i was looking out i looked down at the clouds and i said oh there we go that's the snow and they had to say no no that's just the clouds you'd fall through them do you remember taking your girls on a plane for the first time oh i took each of them when they turned 10 on like a special trip you know to see a show and all that in interstate but i don't i think we may have gone on holiday before then maybe to tasmania or somewhere it doesn't stick out in my mind no probably does in theirs yeah i'll ask them yeah no we'll get them on the show sometime. Hopefully they can tell a better story than you just told. No, that's right.

How's this? I remember the second time I got on a plane, I remember the Rolling Stone magazine I was reading. How's that? That's not bad, is it? Well, that level of detail is interesting. I've asked a few people this morning about their first flight, and the first person I asked was a friend of mine, who's also a friend of yours, Mark, who's a professional pilot for Qantas.

Oh, yeah. Because I thought he would be an interesting person to ask. So I sent him a text and said, do you remember your first flight on a plane, just as a passenger? He wrote, yes, a Fokker friendship from Adelaide to Kingscote. Kingscote is a town on Kangaroo Island, which is actually a very short flight. We took off on runway 05. Three days later, my brother and I spilt a flavoured milk on the floor of a hire car, which was a Toyota Corolla, and my dad lost his SHIT.

Ah, the memories. That kind of level of detail is very typical of Mark. He's a details man. And actually, I replied and said, can you remember what flavour the milk was? He wrote, that I can't remember. I can remember flying over Brompton, which is a suburb of Adelaide. There were some chimney stacks that were only recently pulled down, so I must have been on the left side of the plane.

The plane was an F-27. As a pilot, he he knows i wonder if he had the passion for planes back then he whether he would have known then i asked him if he remembered the year because i said then we could track down the hire car records and find out what flavor milk they spilt but anyway that's then we went off a bit of a tangent then but these little details that people remember associated with their first flight spilling flavored milk the rolling stone magazine stuff like that it's quite interesting i actually put a little call out to um our patreon supporters oh yeah on our patreon page and i asked any of them i just put out a bit of a call for first flight memories just half an hour ago so uh and here's

a few replies i thought they were interesting to hear uh walter who's a patreon supporter who's dutch uh my first plane flight was around 2005 ish when i went to a conference in the uk the flight was in an airbus a319 operated by easyjet valt is an engineer by the way so he's as you'll soon figure out yeah i distinctively remember the view as we took off and landed seeing the coast of the netherlands and also nearly flying over my then hometown of Alkmaar, and when arriving at Gatwick, the patchwork of fields and villages in the UK. The plane has a specific funny sound when one engine is shut down during taxiing, which sounds like someone sawing off the landing gear. That's the hydraulic pump pressurising the system that normally gets driven by the engine. It's called the barking dog, which was explained to me at length by one of my teammates anytime

i'm on an a319 a320 or a321 i'm always listening out for that sound all in all a fun flight and a great trip well there you go i think there are two types of people in the world by the way those who know the names of planes the models of planes and those that don't like some people i know they come from a trick oh did you get the a20 or the a24 no no we've got the sbs skybus oh right yeah i know they're they're i have no clue which one plane i know their cessnas are small but then there are the other ones we go when we go interstate and the other ones we go on when we go overseas. And I don't know any of them. SBS Skybus.

Here's one from Jason, another Patreon supporter. By the way, go to patreon.com slash unmade FM. You might get asked weird questions by me at the last minute before a podcast when I'm desperately scrambling for ideas. questions by me at the last minute before a podcast when i'm desperately scrambling for ideas jason says i was 14 and alone with my sister flying from brussels belgium to heathrow england we were dropped off by my grandparents and picked up in england by our mother who had an english partner at the time and she was already over there we were very nervous because everything was new flying alone with my little sister who was 12 on the plane we had zero experience and when they handed out hot towels i declined as i didn't know what it was my sister who was more adventurous

than me accepted it and after i saw what it was i was sad because i would have enjoyed one too all in all everything was okay but we'll always remember that trip that is so typical like that's years ago and it's such an innocuous thing that the sister took the hot towel and he's jealous that he now hasn't got a hot towel. And it still sticks with Jason to this day. And even now it's because he knows what a hot towel feels like now. The regret would be even stronger. Like, oh, that would have been so refreshing.

It's always a weird thing, isn't it? When kids get put on planes on their own. I realise why it has to happen. It had to happen with Jason and his sister, but something doesn't quite seem right about putting kids on the plane on their own. No, there's a whole aura around planes and flying and the trip. And even though I feel totally casual and relaxed about it, and it's very matter of fact,

I think there's, I do feel there's probably a slight heightened anxiety about it or something like that. I know it does funny things to you. Like I know that people are apparently much more likely to cry during movies when they're on a plane and things like that. That's true. You know? I watched Marley and Me on a flight and I'm still like traumatized by how much I cried. Who's that guy down the front just howling? It was terrible i was i was and i was once sitting next to my wife and she was watching paddington 2 and i couldn't hear it because she had headphones and i was just watching over her

shoulder the last 20 minutes of paddington 2 so i didn't really know what was going on but i could kind of follow it visually and i cried multiple times and i couldn't even hear it like when he nearly drowns in the carriage and then the mum comes at the end oh spoilers uh sorry it is a good it's a good movie but because you told me something along those lines before i saw it i was waiting for a massive emotional impact that didn't quite come at the same level. But I needed to have watched it on a plane. Maybe I'll give it another run on a plane sometime. Paddington too.

But all of it's good. Like even like the corny bits are good. Hugh Grant's great in it. I did like it. I did like it a lot. Yeah. Here's a message from George, another stakeholder. Flying from Gold Coast to Sydney on my first ever holiday with my dad,

I would have been eight or nine. We were seated on the left of the plane and we were lucky enough to be rooted the somewhat less common approach over Sydney Harbour. Having woken up at 6am that morning in my little country town, my first sight of a real city, the bridge, the opera house, completely blew me away. There you go. First time you see sydney

is amazing that's true yes yes something that's so familiar for australians that is you know the opera house and the sydney harbour bridge and then to see it there um for real and the bridge is so beautiful isn't it it's so much bigger than you think it's gorgeous big yeah nothing prepares you for how how big it is it's a big thing the prepares you for how how big it is it's a big thing the sydney harbour bridge it is it's a big hunk of metal here's monty my first flight was london to corfu we got caught in a storm over the alps the plane was hit by lightning and i just remember seeing lightning going up the side of the plane the lights all went out and it felt like we were dropping when we finally landed in cor Corfu, after being diverted to Athens for a few hours,

all the electricity was off on the island. Not the best flight, but it has made every plane journey since a breeze. Yes, I can imagine. Have you ever been in serious turbulence on a plane? I've told this story before, but my first ever flight when I was a little boy, we were trying to land in Tasmania. I don't remember this. And the plane was circling and couldn't land.

And there was a real panic on the plane. And at a real inopportune moment, I called out, mummy, mummy, are we going to die? And sent everyone else in the plane into this huge panic. And people were like, shut that kid up, shut that kid up. Oh, dear. And I'm sure I've told you this, but that's such a famous story in my family. And years and years later, I met someone from Tasmania, from that town. And for some reason, I told that story just to break the ice.

I was once on this plane, mummy. And the girl said, you're not going to believe this. My grandmother was on that flight. And she always tells the story of this little boy on the plane saying, Mummy, mummy, are we going to die? And sending everyone in the plane into an even bigger panic. Oh, what a classic. And that was a famous story in her family.

And I was the little boy. She then phoned her grandmother and said, guess who I'm with, Grandma? I'm with the boy that said, mummy, mummy, are we going to die? That's crazy. Your traumatic influence has rippled through like multiple generations of that family uh here's one from el mani my first flight was in 2000 i was 13 traveling from the us with my family we started in hanover germany and went to brussels for a stop. That said first flight was especially exciting for me. A few months before I had gotten a model airplane kit of an Avro RJ small plane and my first flight was in exactly

the same type of plane. It was very exciting. So there's another person who knows their models of planes for you. That's pretty cool from Hanover to Brussels. That's a very cool first flight. And you made that model plane just weeks before i love it i remember getting a quantus model when i got off obviously they did this with some kids and i had you know like a model aircraft plane um i didn't have to make it like it was all made i guess so it was a toy really rather than yeah like diecast metal yeah yeah yeah and and we had that up on the shelf in our lounge room so So, not just even my bedroom. It was so special. It was in like our adult, you know, the main lounge room on the shelf.

With the spoons, with your dad's spoons. Not too far from the spoons. That's right. Yes. All right. So, do you reckon I'm on a winner here with my podcast idea? I do think it's a good idea. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know how many you're going to do. But you might want to get it down to some remarkable stories. But at the very least, it is an interesting question to throw in. Talking and interviewing someone, something jumps out for sure. Yeah, it's a good icebreaker. Interesting those whose first flights are international and others are just sort of, you know, local and around the place.

Like one hour compared to 16 hours. Or living in Australia, people don't understand, do they, in the Northern Hemisphere just how far we fly, like 24 hours to London. It's just unbelievable. I did that first flight to Tasmania when I was a little boy, but then I didn't fly for years and years afterwards. And my first flight that I can properly remember was, I must have been about 20 or so, and we went on a football trip to Melbourne to go and

watch football in Melbourne and I just went with a with another mate who I worked with and the my abiding memory was wow I didn't realize planes went this fast on the runway I didn't realize there was so much thrust and power I was really surprised and now I'm and now I don't find that anymore and I think it's partly because smaller planes go quicker when they take off, it seems, or it feels like it. Or maybe I've just gotten used to it. But now, like, nine times out of ten, I fall asleep as soon as I sit on the plane

and I wake up and we're already in the air. Or even on the same, you open a book or a magazine or something like that and start reading, waiting for them to shut the doors. And then you look around and, oh, suddenly someone's walking past with a trolley and we're on our way and you're engrossed. I do remember that, similar with me, the Rolling Stone trip, as we might refer to it.

I was about that age as well. I think I was 20 or 21 or something. And I remember being disappointed with how quick the trip was. Like we were coming in for a landing. I was like, oh, no, this is cool. I've been enjoying this. We're there already. It was the last time in history that I was ever disappointed

in a short flight, that's for sure. I remember when I flew to Sydney for the Sydney Olympics, actually, and I got on the plane in Adelaide and I sat down and by an amazing coincidence, although it's not that amazing in Adelaide, I was sat next to an old school friend of ours. And I was like, oh, this is a nice surprise. I'm going to get to sit next to someone I know for the flight. This will be fun.

We'll get to chat and stuff like that. She goes, hey, how are you? Good, how are you? Yeah, cool. And then the plane took off and 30 seconds into the flight, she started throwing up violently into a sick bag. And she did for the entire flight, which was that two and a half, three hours to Sydney? Non-stop.

I reckon she must have gone through 10 bags. No. She's tiny. I don't know where it all came from. Oh my goodness me. But she didn't stop throwing up the entire flight. Oh dear. It was a nightmare.

That can't be just the motion sickness or flight she must have had a bug or something oh gosh yeah i don't know what it was but i couldn't move because it was a packed flight so i went from thinking oh this is going to be a pleasant flight sitting next to someone who i like and i can chat to to it was like oh get me out of here oh well well she would have been so embarrassed and apologetic, I'm sure. But, yeah, gosh. I don't know. I think she was otherwise occupied.

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really good service to make it really simple so i hope you find that very easy all right it's a smart thing to do to have them all in one one place that place being hover well i'm a smart guy so i do smart things and this is one of the smart things probably the only smart thing i'll be doing this week can i tell you another thing i really like about hover which is sort of like bit of an unsung thing they do which i really like and that is how easy they make renewing or not renewing a domain because a lot of domains you register and you want to keep them for a long time or forever yeah unmade.fm obviously i'm going to want to keep that for a long time or forever yeah unmade.fm obviously i'm going to

want to keep that for a long time so i have that constantly renewing other ones you might get on spec and then a year or two later you think no actually no i'm probably not going to go ahead with that project i don't need that domain anymore i don't want to renew it they make the checkbox and the system for renewing or not renewing when your registration runs out really transparent really easy they'll send you a reminder at the end saying just so you know this one's not renewing you're about to lose it but they're not like scammy and sort of trap you into paying for another registration if you don't want it anymore they're really good about that process they make it really simple they're really fair dealers hover i really i think they like you

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Fill your boots. Do it straight away. Fill your boots. Get every single one in the world and then you'll have all the websites. Just sit down with a dictionary and start working your way through. Then you've got the world over a barrel. It is time for Spoon of the Week.

Alrighty. the week. Alrighty. Tim, what spoon from the Hine family archive are you going to dazzle us with this week? Well, Brady, I've got something very special for you this week. In fact, I haven't even sent this one to you. So let me send you a photo. There's a picture of it.

Indeed. I'm not sending the actual thing. You can hold it up on this camera. I'll see it on the camera. Okay. It's not in focus, so I can't read the text, but it looks like some kind of building, like a church. No, no. See if you can decide what it is purely from the shape of the picture. I think it blurs if I get too close. It looks like a sort of a church or a building of some sort,

but you're saying it's not a church? No, no. It's a natural feature. It's not a human hand built. Oh, okay. So they're like rocks. They're like pillars of some sort. I'm looking at a very out of focus picture at the moment. And how many rocks are there? I can see three.

Yes. So what place do you think would have a souvenir spoon around Australia with three rocks? The Three Sisters. Yeah, I was three rocks. The three sisters. Yeah, I was about to say the something sisters. Yeah, I've never been to them though. I've never been to them either, but mum has, and here's the proof in my hand. Where are the three sisters?

They're in New South Wales. And I remember having a picture book as a kid that was just one of my little suite of books i don't know where i got it from but it was a sort of an adventure story about a kookaburra and little children on some adventure and it was around the park where the three sisters were so i remember like you know when you're a kid and you read these picture books like 50 times so it sort of burnt into my mind so i kind of feel like i've been there but i actually haven't been there but i'm sort of know this story and and mum talked about

how wonderful it is tim's like yeah i've been to the three sisters there was a talking kookaburra that's right that's right it's it's in new south wales in in a national park there well this is this could be this is like childhood memory may have got me all wrong three sisters let's look it up i always love a good rock formation this is where we hear that it's a um it's a myth like it's you know it's a mysterious land it's like middle earth or something it's not a real place it's like hogwarts that's right oh yeah no here we go it's real the three sisters are a an unusual rock formation in the blue mountains of new south wales okay so this is sort of around where skippy the the bush kangaroos from and man from snowy river that kind of high country sort of area yeah yeah so mum talked about how beautiful it was

and she must have bought this book. Rather than actually taking me there, she bought this book and no doubt has bought this spoon. It's not a book. It's a spoon. It's not book of the week. No, no, no. Bought me a book which got me, you know. Oh, the book with the kookaburra. That's right.

That's right. That I watched again and again. Okay. And I don't feel like I need to go there because the book made such an impression and now I have the spoon. What possible reason would I have to actually go and see the three sisters? Why do all that walking when I can...

When you can just enjoy the view in spoon form. The spoon is quite pretty. It's a pretty good job. It's pretty much got an oval stem. Is that right? No, handle at the top. Handle. And there's a sky and there's clouds

in the sky it's sort of painted uh in the background but then the the there's little silver rock formations uh are there and um looks like quite small and dainty spoon from here it is quite dainty yes it is yes lovely stem fairly, scoopy bit. There's a little bit of green up the top. But do you know what? It says something, and I can't remember. Oh, it says Blue Mountains, New South Wales. There we go. It does say that.

Very worn back lettering. The Blue Mountains, which is sort of outside Sydney. Yes, yes. There we go. So that's Spoon of the Week. Very nice. Oh, yes. Of course, we have our very own Unmade Podcast Souvenir Spoon. of outside sydney yes yes there we go so that's spoon of the week very nice oh yes of course we have our very own unmade podcast souvenir spoon that has been struck and minted here in the uk we like to give them away to stakeholders to patreon supporters and this week we are sending

one randomly chosen to leonard from sw. Switzerland. There we go. Leonard from Switzerland. We also like to keep the good stuff flowing to those Patreon supporters. So we're sending a sofa shop mixtape, which is highly collectible, to Greg B from British Columbia in Canada. Congratulations, Greg B. Congratulations. And Spoon of the Week collector cards, which is, you know, is the new big thing.

It's the new thing that all the kids are talking about, like Minecraft and Fortnite and Roblox and all that. Spoon of the Week collector cards. We're going to give a handful of those too. Preben from Norway. Andrew M from Kentucky. Robert L from San Francisco. Craig W from Illinois. And Jorn B from Norway. Again, Jorn B. san francisco craig w from illinois and yawn b from norway again yawn b yawn won some cards or

something not long ago he's on a roll i love the cards are going very they're right right across the world in different directions heading out from your place it's wonderful to see yeah it's amazing like food parcels they are really just for soul. I wonder if anyone's got the whole set yet, if anyone's managed to cobble together an entire set of Spoon of the Week collector cards, because that's the dream. That's the dream. I had dinner last night with the man who does our photography, who does the photos and so forth of the spoons, the formal photography.

You might say that he's got the, what do they call it when you have the royal, it's by royal assent or something. warrant a royal warrant yeah so he has the unmade warrant he's our go-to person for photography for uh the spoons and um yeah and i was having dinner with him last night not and i was saying we need to take some photos so we've got a whole bunch of spoons ready to go he's like bring them over and he also had his own collection of spoons from a family you know members in other places he was quite proud to bring them out and does he use those ones to practice taking spoon photos before he gets our official spoons i made him work on his own for for several months before i was willing to bring the official unmade spoons can i share another podcast idea, Tim, that I've had? Sure, sure.

Am I going to get a go after you? Well, I make no guarantees. This could be a podcast or a new segment on our podcast. What do you think about this? Moon of the week. We only got one moon. No, we talk about all the other moons Jupiter has 79 moons

Saturn has as many as 83 moons Mars has 2 moons Uranus has 27 moons Neptune has 14 moons And if you want to get Into the whole Pluto debate Pluto kind of has a moon, one moon

Don't send me an email to talk about kind of has a moon, one moon. Don't send me an email to talk about Pluto and its moon. I know the deal. Even I'm aware of that controversy. I thought, like, Jupiter had seven or eight moons. That's how many it had when I was in primary school. Has it got more? 79. That's too many moons.

Where does he put all those? Jupiter's biggest biggest moons bigger than mercury gosh and and and these are the moon of the week you could have some of them are really interesting right like there are really obvious ones like um is it europa i think that's like all kind of icy and watery io is really volcanic titan at um saturn has like a famously has quite a thick atmosphere the moons of uranus are named after all sorts of interesting things, including Shakespearean characters. There's Puck, there's Ophelia, Bianca, Juliet.

So you could talk about how they're all named. We could have a different moon every week and I could regale you with interesting details. Wow. Moon of the week. There's a moon called Bianianca wow yeah that's that's that's a lot of um that's a lot more moons out there than i thought you're not making these up are you sort of naming them after no no that's the real deal

should we start moon of the week well can i say they're going to be a lot harder for my friend to photograph that's for sure i'm not going to be a lot harder for my friend to photograph. That's for sure. I'm not going to be able to bring them down to the studio. All right. Moon of the week. I reckon that'd be great. Are you going to do our moon? Because, you know, our moon's like it's ours.

Yeah. I mean, I'd hold back on that one. That'd be a bit of a showstopper, that one. I don't want you to feel like I'm muscling in on spoon of the week, though. Well, I think that's hardly a threat. I mean, you know, it sounds like... Sounds like Moons and Diamond Dazzler there at the moment. They're not like the special spoon collection.

We could have a public vote and people can decide if they want Spoon of the Week or Moon of the Week. We can give it a bit of a test run and see if the fans take to it. Maybe next episode I'll throw in a cheeky moon and see what people think. All right. Does that mean I have to sing a really cool intro to throw to it? I might go really low. Give us a couple of samples now so I can send them to my music guy.

Moon of the week. I want to sing. Moon river wider than a mile. Moon of the week. Yes. My huckleberry friend. I love that song so much. All right

Watch this space for moon of the week Moon of the week Tim, I am going to let you have a podcast idea But first, we have to talk about Storyblocks It's been a little while since we had a bit of a Storyblocks game, so I've come up with a Storyblocks game for you today. Oh, these are so stressful. Yes.

Before we get to that, let me just remind people what Storyblocks is. We're talking storyblocks.com slash unmade. This is a demand-driven library of entirely royalty-free 4k and HD footage, After Effects and Premiere Pro templates, music, images, sound effects, all the stuff you could want for creating stuff, podcasts, videos, newsletters, whatever you create, websites. They offer subscriptions that will fit any budget, including their unlimited all access, which is a subscription I am proud to use, which gives you unlimited downloads. Check them out, storyblocks.com slash unmade. I use them all the time. I think with Storyblocks, like the main event is the videos, right? That's the thing

most people use Storyblocks for. And I use the Storyblocks videos all the time. They're great. But all the other stuff is so handy. And I particularly enjoy the sound effects. I need the sound effects a lot for videos and for podcasts and stuff. So, Tim, I searched for three sound effects on the Storyblocks library. Right. And I'm going to send them to you. You will listen to the sound effect. Yes.

And I want you to guess the one word search term I used for which this was the result. So what one word search term did I use in the Storyblocks library that resulted in these sound effects? Okay. So I'm not describing what I hear, but I'm going to describe what you would have put in to get it. Everyone's going to hear it. Yep. Okay. There's number one, Tim.

What one word search term do you think I used that provided that sound effect in Storyblocks? Boing. You think I used the word boing? That to me sounds like boing. I reckon you wrote in boing. Yes. That's a really good guess. And it is a word I have searched on before, boing.

But in this particular case, I used the word spring. Oh, okay. Yes. But I was hoping for a boing sound and I almost used boing, so that was a very good guess. Number two. I'm tempted to say a cow in the middle of a domestic

argument, but no. I'll go with, is it one word I can say? One word. Trumpeting? No, that wouldn't have done it i guess elephant i guess elephant yes elephant yes yeah okay don't know but i'm trying to just okay this is a story blocks ad man it's not mastermind all right okay but what was the elephant saying? That's what I'm trying to discern. Third and final sound effect from the Storybox library. Okay, so this is an interesting one because this could be alarm or siren.

I'm going to go with siren. The correct answer is ambulance. Oh, right. Yeah. So, if any of those three sound effects appeal to you... You're so close. If any of those sound effects appealed to you or countless, countless others or videos or pictures or all the good stuff they have on Storyblocks, go to storyblocks.com slash unmade.

Make sure you use the slash unmade so they know you came from here. Our thanks to Storyblocks for supporting this episode and for providing us with an endless supply of great material we can use to embarrass Tim on the podcast. I'm unashamed. I'm unashamed. I stand by siren is a good answer. They were all good answers. Just only one of them was correct.

All right. Finally, we get to hear an idea from Tim. Yes, finally. People have held in a long time waiting for this, to be honest. I mean, really. It's, you know, this is what they come for, and they've been made to sit through moons and all sorts of stuff. Anyway, anyway, anyway.

Without further ado, my podcast idea is called Three Moments, Three People. Now, this idea is really about the fact that i think there are potentially in everyone's life three moments which dramatically swing the direction of their life like if something hadn't happened they would have gone in a totally different direction or kept going in the same direction it wouldn't haveung. I also think there are sort of three maybe key people, or it's interesting to name three people, who if they hadn't met that person, their life would have been dramatically different.

So very quickly, you might, the people one in some ways is less interesting. But like, for instance, our wives, you know, if we hadn't met them, obviously it would be dramatically different. I think, though, it's probably more interesting to push harder down to a less high profile person who we just happened to come across who suggested something and because of that something else happened and i'll give you an illustration so for mine there's sort of a person at the center of a particular moment and i think this is fascinating because the more I've

thought about it during the week, the more I'm amazed at how much has flown unexpectedly from this one particular moment. Years and years ago, in the late 90s, I was living in Adelaide and I went over to Melbourne to help with my cousin's wedding. And just on spare time i wanted a book for some a christian minister a guy called john smith a well-known sort of minister had written some books this is sort of pre you know the internet so i couldn't find it that way and i looked on the back of one of the other books to find you know where the office was some random office reception and i drove out there and it was sort of a lot further out of the city than I thought, turned up there. And it's just like a very regular sort of reception office. And I went in and said, hello young fella and i said oh hello and then he just turned around and he said you want a job and i sort of laughed awkwardly and you know

sort of like he's gonna ask me to take out the trash or something like that but then suddenly he'd thrust a piece of paper in my hand and it like had a list of yeah we're looking for some people for a job like i'm a total stranger yeah and i was like oh okay and then the lady came back and i was sort of awkward and nervous you know when someone's sort of patronizing hey young fella you know and you're younger you're sort of a little bit awkward but i took the book and i took the piece of paper and awkwardly said goodbye and went away the long and the short of it is i ended up looking at the paper looking at one of the jobs calling back and talking to someone and then actually thinking, I think I'd like to do one of these jobs. It was like a Christian ministry job, doing some stuff in schools and all that kind of thing. I flew back a

few months later and sort of interviewed and visited and stuff like that. And I ended up a few months after that moving to Melbourne. And I think about that because it's in Melbourne that I, you know, not just started my Christian you know, Christian ministry vocation, but it's also, of course, I met my wife in Melbourne. And so I can trace back and I look at my, you know, my daughters and my wife and the trajectory and it all, none of it would exist if this guy hadn't walked past and said, hi, young fella, and thrust a piece of paper into to a stranger standing at the desk who was that guy his name was doc because later of course i

went over and i worked for him and he was the it guy he just happened to be walking past the the desk at that time he was just the it guy he was also involved in the in the christian ministry like he was a biker and they had sort of something called the God Squad, so an outreach to like bikers in the outlaw biker world. And lovely guy. Yeah, he was called Doc because he was sort of fixed other people's bikes. He was really good at that. Yeah. But he had, it was not his job to go looking for anyone.

He literally was in charge of IT. He just happened to be walking past the desk. He'd probably just come out of a meeting where they were saying, how are we going to find employees? And just, he was just a bit fired up about the idea and thought, maybe this is a sign that there's some young guy here. I'll ask him. Yeah. Yeah. But of course, once I was working there ages later, you realize how many people come to reception, you know, there's people coming for all sorts of stuff. And it's not like I was walking up to each one of them going, hey, do you want to work for us? You know, it was just,

I mean, who was I? Amazing. It is amazing. The more I think about it, you almost shudder because you go, oh, gosh, like, what if he hadn't done that? Then, I mean, I might have a different wife and different kids or I might be doing something different. And I'm sure it would be enriching and worthwhile. But you could be on a really successful podcast now. I know.

But it's these ones that i love and that i want so it's sort of it feels like yeah well the more i think about it the more i think oh i'm so close to have not had them you know like it's that counts almost as an amazing moment as much as an amazing person that one yeah that's right yeah it is sort of a moment but but he's a sort of a low profile guy in the story it's not like i married him or he became you know my boss or something he was but but he played such a critical role so i was thinking about this during the week and i was feeling so grateful to him that i messaged him yeah i went searching for him on facebook and i haven't got a reply yet Like he has a

He's obviously not a big Facebook guy But it's the best contact I could do for now And I haven't seen him for 20 years And I sent him a message just saying How grateful I was for something that he incidentally did Because of all the things that I have now Because of that You should have messaged him and said

Hey old fella You want a job? And offered him a job at your place Actually that'd be helpful on the IT side You should have messaged him and said, hey, old fella, you want a job? And offered him a job at your place. Actually, that'd be helpful on the IT side. That's for sure. Yeah. Can you think of a moment like this?

Yeah. Because there's obvious ones, isn't there? Like I applied for this job, but if I hadn't got the job, then I wouldn't have. But I'm thinking of more interesting ones where it's more accidental. You weren't looking for something. Yeah. I mean, a lot of them are ones where it's more accidental. You weren't looking for something. Yeah. I mean, a lot of them are work related for me as well. I remember having a boss at the BBC. Actually, yeah.

The story of how I got my job kind of ties in with a bit of this in a way. I've probably told this. I don't know if I've told this story a million times, but the story of me getting my job at the BBC is really good for this because it involves some people and some incidents when I moved to the UK you know I was trying to find a decent job and to cut a long story short one of the jobs I saw advertised was working for the BBC in Nottingham so I got an interview and the night before my interview in Nottingham I got the train from London and spent the day before in Nottingham just to have a look around the city, see what I thought of it and find my feet. And

then I was sleeping in a friend's sofa that night. And then I had my interview the next day. And by coincidence, the Queen was visiting Nottingham that day to open a big ice centre in Nottingham. So I thought, oh, I've never seen the Queen. It's a big event. I'll go along and have a look. So I arrived outside the ice centre. There was a big crowd of people waiting. The Queen pulled up in her Rolls Royce, came out, shook a bunch of people's hands and then went into the ice centre. And I saw the Queen and I saw Prince Philip. They like walked past me. Yep. Yep. And then as I was leaving, I walked past her Rolls Royce and there were all these broken eggs on the windscreen of the Rolls Royce. And it turns out a couple of mischievous youths had thrown eggs at the queen's rolls royce they got arrested or you know they got in trouble uh and that was just a minor story

the next day you know a couple of teens in trouble with the police for throwing eggs at the queen's car big deal yeah yeah so i went to the i went to my job interview and part of the job interview was you had to write a news story to show that you could you know pull together information and turn it into a coherent written story yeah and the information they gave me were a bunch of reports and press releases and wire stories about the queen having her car egged because that's just what they had lying around in the newsroom they said oh why don't we give the interviewees these this information and see if they can write a story about it yeah so i i sat down in my interview i got given all this information i turned it into a story very basic and then in my interview my interview was with a

few people uh and they said what did you think of the exercise you know the written exercise you know and i said oh it was fine it was you know no problems at all and then i said funnily enough i happened to be there i saw it happen i saw the eggs on the rolls royce and that sort of thing and it straight away it created this impression that i was this like johnny on the spot news guy who was just always there when stuff was happening like not only could i do the, but I witnessed the event and I was part of it all and I was able to talk about it and what it was like. And they were like, and it just made me sound so prepared and well-researched. And it gave me a legitimate excuse to say, yeah, I came to Nottingham the day before and I was researching the town. And it just made me sound

like this amazing applicant. And funnily enough, one of the women who was on that interview was a woman called Emma Agnew is her name. She's one of the bosses at BBC in the East Midlands. And she is the wife of the cricket commentator, Jonathan Agnew, who is a famous BBC cricket commentator. And it turns out about a year before this interview, she had been in Australia with Jonathan while he was commentating cricket matches in australia oh yeah uh just like having a holiday with him while he was working on the ashes cricket yeah and when they were in adelaide staying in the adelaide hotel for the adelaide cricket match um was around a time when i was working at the adelaide advertiser and a famous australian airline collapsed it went out of business. It was Ansett. They collapsed.

And at the time, I was the transport writer for the Adelaide Advertiser. I saw it. Mummy, this plane's going to collapse. I'm going to get this airline. So, at the time, I was the transport writer for the Adelaide Advertiser. I was writing lots of stories about it. And my name was on the front page a lot because it was the biggest story in town. Yeah.

So, her and Jonathan had been reading the newspaper every day in their hotel in Adelaide and had seen my name on the top of all these stories and had actually joked about it to each other. Brady Haran, what an unusual name. I think they said something like, only an Australian would call their kid, you know, Brady Haran. They thought it was a strange name. Yeah.

But they commented on it to each other a few times. And a year later i'm sitting in in this interview with her and suddenly she goes brady harron i remember you i remember your name on all these stories in the adelaide advertiser that's crazy and again it just created this impression i think in their mind that i was this like guy who was everywhere writing every story if there's an egg thrown in a car brady's there if an airline collapses in australia brady's there like i just it just created this impression that i was this like ultimate news guy so i ended up getting that job and like that was a really important moment in my life obviously and it happened because of

all this serendipity but funnily enough emma agnew again became a really important person in my life because after about a year of working for the BBC website, the BBC decided to start training some of their staff to use video cameras and video editing and become video journalists. And they weren't just getting TV people to do it. They were given the opportunity to other people in the newsroom who they thought had something about them and had a bit of talent. And it had never been an opportunity given to an online journalist at that stage. But Emma just sort of recognised something in me and said, you know what, I think Brady would really take to this.

If we sent Brady on the course and taught him to make videos, he'd be good at it. So I was sent on the course quite early on for someone in my role. And I did take to it. And when I came back, I was never sent back to online. I was kept as a video journalist for the rest of my days at the BBC because it was something that I had some aptitude for. So Emma was probably one of those people as well, a woman named Emma Agnew.

There's a few others I can think of who are really big like that, but she did it a few times, I guess. So she can be one of mine. Have you continued to make videos at all I dabble you should put some of them online yeah that is fascinating isn't it the coincidences and how they come together that that's that's that's a bit even more amazing because it's not you don't just look in retrospect and go oh wow that worked out or that was interesting there were were coincidences on the spot at the moment that enabled it to happen. There's an unpredictability to it.

And then there's moments that swing. And so my idea is three moments, three people or something like that, you know, where you just sort of because that's I mean, you know, how long did it take you to tell that story then? You know, like that's a good meeting. Sorry about three. Too long. That's right. There weren't any moon references so it was okay i was with you yeah but they yeah you know that's it's an interesting way to try and um you know act one act two act three for your life or something like that yeah like yeah yeah it's nice having as acts you're right and

preferably pick them from different eras and you're one of those people in my life as well like it's sort of strange like we were in class together for a year and we're indifferent to And preferably pick them from different eras. You're one of those people in my life as well. Like, it's sort of strange. Like, we were in class together for a year and we're indifferent to one another. And then suddenly, all of a sudden, you know, randomly we became friends. And we're doing this now, years later. Yeah. Things like that. They are.

What enabled it? What happened? What changed? You know what I mean? It's fascinating. It just sort of sets the trajectory of your life. And suddenly I'm stuck here pumping these out week after week. It doesn't always have to be a good influence, does it?

That's right. Got in with the wrong crowd early on. That is true, though. There is potential for it to also be negative things. It's much nicer when it's uplifting and positive. But, yeah, it could be, you know, here's the person who got me, sent me down a bad path. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. I think maybe, I think because the moments are so often intertwined with people, you could probably just get away with three people or three moments. Just choose one of those two. You probably don't need both because it's pretty rare that they're not intertwined. And it might be sort of overcomplicating it a little bit. Like, it might be just cleaner and simpler having it as three people, three special people who, you know.

What I like, though, is moving away from just talking about, oh, this has been a really important person in my life, you know, but to actually talk about it was a moment with that person. Yeah, well, maybe the three moments is better then. And, like, picking deliberately obscure moments like i could pick the moment that two teenagers threw eggs at the queen's rolls royce and really that's a bit of a long bow i got the job for lots of other reasons yeah but using that just as the point as the little the little fulcrum point yeah the moment the moment these stupid teenagers they didn't you know they didn't get in trouble i think they just

got a slap on the wrists. But using that innocuous moment, which means nothing to anyone. But I've gone back and looked at the news story from the day it happened, you know, and the picture of the eggs on the Queen's Rolls Royce and thought, that moment meant something to me. Like, you know, look where it's led for me. Like, if I hadn't got that job at the BBC, I certainly wouldn't have got into filmmaking and video.

And then that's become a big part of who I am. Well, that's right. They could have very, if they hadn't, yeah job at the bbc i certainly wouldn't have got into filmmaking and video and then that's become a big part of who i am well that's right they could have very if they hadn't yes right the kids if they don't throw an egg that day they could quite easily have picked something else that was obvious to let's say a person who knows the uk really well like something and you just would have looked silly or out of touch or it would have just made or just that made me look extra good in the interview it just it just made me stand out amongst a bunch of other people who were just as good as me but i just had i just had a really good interview it just got the interview off on the right foot and everything from there just flowed really well and it became like an absolute breeze of a job interview and i think it was because of that moment maybe i still would have got the job maybe

i wouldn't maybe i would have got a better job the next day. I don't know. But I just like how much, I just like that that moment, that means nothing to probably anyone except, even those teenagers it probably doesn't mean that much to anymore. But it still means something to me. The funny thing as well is that, is the story that didn't happen? Like the person after you who was interviewed, who didn't get the job because you did may have been twice the journalist you are and might have gone on to do something

really amazing that that might have you know informed the creation of cold fusion or save the planet or review the story yeah that's right i like i think yeah i think maybe you're right three moments might be a better idea than three people for that reason So it doesn't just become mentors and things like that And it becomes more A little bit more whimsical A little bit more serendipitous Yes yes

Even just asking that question Of course in this podcast idea You give people time to prepare ahead of time But if you were asking someone cold you know what three moments it would be interesting what your mind goes to maybe something at high school something soon afterwards something later in life fascinating to hear what comes quickly to mind good one maybe this is a moment man maybe maybe right now this moment is one that we'll look back on and say yeah it was that moment when you told me that idea about that moment that did it.

Yeah. That was the episode when Brady first suggested Moon of the Week. That's right. And look what it's become now. Your earlier suggestion to go back to episode 75 is probably a better one. That's the one that got me back to 75. I listened to it again and then this happened. Did you have to do any secret words today?

Yes. And I've got one of them, right, and I haven't used it. And I forgot the other one and I text a little while ago, well, you were, I don't know, telling some story, and to ask the daughter, what's your word? Because I've forgotten it. And she must be in bed because I haven't got a reply. So have you used the one you do know?

Not, no. No is the answer. I was going to say not properly, but then I was like, no, not even, not properly. Like I haven't used it at all. What would it have been if you'd used it properly? I would have said something like horses live in a stable. Right. Okay.

I'll tell you that this is maybe this is a defining moment and I'll capture it for posterity. This daughter was playing a game called Zelda and loves this game. It's like an adventure game where you've got to work out clues and kill monsters and all sorts of stuff. And so Zelda was the word. And I said, no, I don't want to talk about a computer game. Well, here I am mentioning a computer game.

You know, like that's just, you know, promotion or whatever. But then right at that moment on the screen, it talked about a particular stable where you go and get a horse to then ride that horse to fulfill an adventure. And I said said what about stable and she said yes that's a good one so you're suggesting the words now i think we should just do this retrospectively i listen to the recording and go well there's a word i said and then i suggest that to the's right. Say, I'm recording tomorrow night, girls, and how about...

Why don't you make Christian ministry your word this week? That's right. Moon, outlaw. You make moon your word, you're on a pretty safe ground. It's going to come up at some point in the episode. That's true. That is true. That's true.

Moon's your word every week.