The Unmade Podcast - 115: The Man in Black (and a Black Cap)
Episode Date: August 29, 2022Tim and Brady discuss an email from The First Lady, KFC torture, a message of love, creativity and song writing, spoons, moons, and a music-related idea from Brady. Go to Storyblocks for stock video,... pictures and audio at storyblocks.com/unmade - https://www.storyblocks.com/unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/x11xxu Catch the video for this episode on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIRMZDOKKKs-d14YPmLMxg USEFUL LINKS Pictures associated with this episode - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-115-pictures Jill Biden - https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/dr-jill-biden/ The Love Boat - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Boat Brady's Balloon Flight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWsXoC3a8A Pictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Send your own spoon by following these instructions - https://www.unmade.fm/send-us-a-spoon The Mona Lisa - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Lisa Wedding at Cana painting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wedding_at_Cana Mona Lisa Socks - https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5990824849fc2b4c4fe4211b/1661772836315-US1W9HRYRY724IRS2BBZ/IMG_1014.JPG?format=2500w Leda the Dog - https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5990824849fc2b4c4fe4211b/1661772810554-G57J4KKOISI8I4HRDIP3/IMG_1535.jpeg?format=2500w Leda the Moon - https://bit.ly/3pQGpVc Leda and the Swan - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leda_and_the_Swan We Didn't Start the Fire - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g Vogue - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJQSAiODqI Everywhere Man - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAEU1yANRSY Everywhere Man - Scared Weird Little Guys version - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmtfYf9AX5Y Email us at unmadefm at gmail dot com
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You ready to start?
We've started.
Too late.
Oh, we have started.
We have, yep.
Well, that's embarrassing.
I was checking my junk mail, which I occasionally check,
ever since I won the Order of the Medal of Australia
and I went to my junk mail.
Yes.
So I do occasionally check in case there's something special there.
And I've had something remarkable there today, Tim.
Yes?
Yes.
I have here an email from none other than the First Lady of the United States, Jill Biden.
Wow.
To you, Brady, or to the Unmade podcast, or to...
It seems to be to me.
She's using one of her lesser known email addresses, which seems to be dhlcuria followed by a series of numbers at gmail.com.
But she says, greetings to you from the White House, official residence of the president of the US.
I am, and then in capitals, Mrs. Jill Biden.
Wow.
I would like to inform you that your funds issue was brought to my office this morning by the United Nations.
Wow.
Said that they have uploaded your inheritance fund worth US $50 million into a new ATM visa card.
Oh, my goodness.
And then she goes on to explain how this is, you know, they've been cracking down on fraudulent scams being operated out of Africa.
But this isn't part of that.
And if I give them certain details, they'll send me an ATM card with $50 million on it from Jill Biden herself.
Wow, that's incredible.
A couple of things.
First of all, has she not learnt from the lessons of Hillary Clinton not to use a personal email for official business?
Yeah.
of Hillary Clinton not to use a personal email for official business.
Yeah.
I mean, not just because it threatens state secrets, but also because it's going to go to the junk mail.
I mean, you might have missed this.
Exactly.
Anyway, $50 million thanks to Jill Biden.
So, I think it would be a good podcast talking through some
of the best emails that have gone to your junk mail.
Yeah, yeah.
There's some real gold in there.
But this is like, this one goes above and beyond.
Like, this is like, where are the scammers going to stop?
Wow.
What's the thinking there?
What's the thinking using Jill Biden, pretending to be Jill Biden?
Is that more likely to make me send my personal details?
Maybe scammers are just being ironic.
Like, they're just having a laugh now going
they're not even trying anymore they're just just being they're like this one's definitely
going to get me on unmade yes yes that's right you send it to b harran and that's definitely
going to get a mention i say while you're talking i've just opened my junk mail right
and i think i can trump your 50 million because i
literally have a message here from the colonel this is i'm on the kfc waiting this is serious
it's it's seriously um hang on my marking is not spam which guarantees i'm going to get a million
of these this is one saucy secret and it's calling your name Definitely junk though
Definitely, it's junk food, not junk mail
I somehow ended up on the Colonel's KFC mailing list
I don't know, from some
Somehow
Somehow
By typing in my email carefully
But earlier this year I literally switched it to junk
Because it was too tempted having it jumping into my email every day when I'm on my KFC fast.
So now it's going to my junk mail, which is where I've now found it.
So now I can't think of anything else.
And now I've unjunked it to tell you about it.
So now I'm just working my way back into trouble here.
I did mean to ask you, have you found out if there's a KFC that will be open for business at one minute past midnight on January 1st, 2023?
There is one.
There is one opposite, you know, the Hungry Jacks that we used to go to at the end of Rundle Mall.
That's underneath the Battlestar Galactica building.
That's open very late.
And that is a favourite.
That is a very, it's been a very reliable kernel.
And so that's probably going to be my go-to are you going to go straight really early in the new year are you going to think i'm going to keep it going this is magnificent
i have to say i already have dinner organized with a group of people
for for the for the first of jan for dinner that night to have KFC together. Nice. It's a little KFC appreciation society, a bunch of friends from church,
and they, you know, sort of are right into it.
Sort of like the first supper.
That's the first supper.
Halfway through, Judas comes and joins us.
It's the reverse.
Speaking of Judas, did my eyes deceive me or did I see a picture of your family all eating KFC in front of you at the dining room table?
Oh, I know.
They're traitors.
It's incredible.
They deliberately went and got it.
And I was driving and I refused to touch it.
But I pulled over exactly, precisely at the KFC I've just described.
I went over the road to Hungry Jack's and grabbed a couple of fries.
This is about 11 o'clock at night.
And my wife went in to the KFC, got some, took it home.
I didn't touch it.
And they ate it in front of me.
And one of the girls was in bed and actually got out of bed to come down and have KFC as like a late night snack.
She was so excited.
They were all just absolutely rubbing my face.
So when you say you didn't touch it,
does that mean like you just stood there with your mouth open
and people put it into your mouth?
Would that count as touching it?
No.
They tried.
They held it out.
And then afterwards they'd all gone.
And then I look on the table and there's those little bits of the skin,
you know, the crunchy bits there.
Well, they don't count they did count no I used a towel and I cleaned up nicely I did not I did not cheat I've got a couple of parish notices here I received an email that I
really enjoyed I thought I'd share with you even more than the one where you won 50 million dollars
that's this must be quite an email this is This is worth more than $50 million to me. This comes from Brandon.
Hi, guys. I'm embarrassed to admit that I just now finally listened to episode 112.
Even though I'm late to the party, I had to respond to the story of how the podcast played
a role in the relationship and eventual marriage of Courtney and Daniel,
the dash cam couple. My wife and I both consider the Unmade podcast a key reason we fell in love with each other. When I introduced her to the show, I was moved by how readily she adopted one
of my interests. These days, she's usually the one waiting for me to finish listening to each
episode so we can discuss. And she says the fact that I was a big fan of something so wholesome
Told her everything she needed to know about my character
Nice
Thank you both for the contribution you make to all our lives
I wonder if that's Brandon Walsh from 90210
He's very wholesome isn't he
Can't rule it out
No
We can't
We can't rule it out.
That's the very thing we can do.
If I'd said any other Brandon, you would have gone,
we can't rule it out.
But that is the one fictional character we can rule out.
But I love it.
I love it.
I like to think that, you know,
I like to think of the Unmade podcast as being a bit like the Love Boat.
Did you used to watch the Love Bo tv show totally yeah and it's amazing how like everyone
everyone got on that boat and like everyone just ended up having like some lovely romantic
relationship it was like it was amazing like yeah what are they putting in the water on that boat
and i like i like to think the unmade podcast is a bit like the love boat everyone just comes to it
from all these different places,
all these disparate places, all singletons.
And then, you know, there's just magic chemistry in the air.
By the end of the episode, they've found their special someone.
I wonder if we should do some sort of dating tie-in with this.
Like, with patron supporters, we match them up.
Yeah.
An Unmade dating app.
I love it.
Swipe left, swipe right.
So people put, they do it purely, people put in,
instead of putting their photos up, something so superficial like that,
instead of that, they put up an idea, their idea for a podcast.
And if the person likes it, they swipe, is it right or left?
Anyway, one or the other.
And then you get closer and closer
until two people like each other's ideas
and then we arrange to meet them.
Or they say, who's your favourite host?
Swipe left if it's Brady, right if it's Tim.
And that's one of the algorithms we use
to sort people into the right groups.
There could be a whole range of those, couldn't there?
KFC or McDonald's or things like that, yeah?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, this is a great idea.
Sofa shop or big rocking horse?
Yes, yes.
Think of all the people that we've matched up just without doing this.
Think how many we're going to match up doing this.
But nice.
Well, that'll get the mind ticking over, won't it?
This is one of those things where we forget about it
and then two days' time suddenly an app downloads onto my phone.
Brady's been working
like for for 48 hours non-stop he's launched an entire new arm i can't make an app i can't make
an app i do not have those skills also just a quick tweet that i enjoyed receiving um obviously
we talked about my hot air balloon flight where i took off with the car keys and left my family behind stranded you know in a field uh i got a tweet from dave saying brady
don't feel too bad about the keys i fly hang gliders had hired a driver to follow me on a
how far can you get flight i got 50 miles before the driver realized i still had the keys oh no
i showed that footage to uh my mum of you in the hot
air balloon, which she thought was amazing. She didn't even want to listen to the talk. She just
wanted to watch you in the hot air balloon on the big TV, YouTube. But then she said, so what did
he do about the keys? And I didn't know the answer. Like, how did you solve the problem of getting the
keys? Well, I didn't solve the problem. My wife solved it.
She managed to call up a friend to come pick them all up
and another person who had a spare set of house keys.
So she got driven home by the friend and then house keys delivered to the house.
And then I just got driven back to my car and drove home sheepishly hours later.
The thought struck me how cool it would have been
if you'd realised when you were quite a distance up in the air,
but not too far away, and the temptation would have been there to drop them down onto the field
that would have been i've thought about what i would do i've thought about what i would do
the thing takes off so quickly though you wouldn't have time to process that you know by the time you
realized and we think that just goes so quick i would not have risked losing my keys in a field
but the thing about dave's tweet though he got 50 miles before the
driver realized what was his chase driver doing for him to be able to have traveled 50 miles
and then the driver's like oh i guess i'd better get in the car and go and follow that guy like
shouldn't the chase driver have been on the go already so anyway questions to be answered but
yeah yeah tell me more about your mum watching the hot air balloon footage.
Oh, yeah.
So what we did was we had mum around and the premise was,
the actual purpose was, apart from just catching up with mum for dinner,
was the fact that I had had a whole bunch of my VHS videos digitised.
So I had things like dad's 80th birthday party which someone had had a handycam
in 2002 you know like videoing around the the restaurant and stuff but i also had their wedding
which we thought in a miracle of technology was was transferred from super 8 to vhs many many
years ago so that we'd have it to play forever. And, of course, now that's totally redundant,
so I got that digitised onto an MP4.
So I plugged those into the TV and didn't tell Mum
and just started playing them.
And she's just sitting there in front of the big TV and then,
oh, there's her wedding.
So that was really nice.
Yeah.
And then she said, oh, enough of this rubbish.
I want to see Brady's hot air balloon fly.
Well, that's right.
Yeah, we turned that off.
That's right.
So we watched those and then it was just, I don't know,
the TV was just sitting there.
And then I thought she'd like it.
So I went to YouTube and put that on.
And, yes, she liked that very much indeed.
She found that really exciting.
And it was, there's Brady.
I can see Brady.
Oh, look at Brady.
Oh, wow, look, Brady's up in the air.
You know, it's a lot of that going on over and over and over again.
We should upload your mum's commentary of the balloon flyers,
like special Patreon footage.
Anyway, time for a podcast idea.
I've done the first idea quite a bit lately.
I thought, Marley, you do the first podcast idea today. Oh, look, look, I am very excited about this. If people are noticing that
my voice sounds a little bit more husky than it normally does, that may be because not just that
it's the end of the day and I've been talking a bit in meetings and stuff, but I've also
been using it for another purpose as well, which goes to the heart of today's idea, which is called
Creativity Now. This idea is for those people who are stuck creatively. They can't get past this
plot issue. They can't start their novel. They can't get something to work in a particular part of their poem or they can't write a song
so this podcast is where people come on and rather than it being normally you say if someone like go
for a walk take the pressure off get out of the stress and something will come and some an idea
will flow this is the very opposite because i actually think that under the spotlight in the
moment could be a very creative place so if people are stuck they need to start a song they need to
get a poem going they need to get something going they come onto the podcast you start recording and
you go right here we go write a song and years ago years ago you said to me that tim you're you're i'm pretty good with words
right and and you're you play guitar right i definitely never said you play guitar
perhaps perhaps you said you have a guitar you own a guitar you own a guitar
i'm pretty good with words and you own a guitar.
And together we could be a great songwriting couple, right?
But you're not good enough on guitar.
And then you said you're really letting the team down.
We could be famous right now except you're letting the team down.
So I thought this is our opportunity to demonstrate the power
of this podcast, Creativity Now.
Before we explore this, can I just say, I've been reading a lot of song lyrics lately because I've
been playing a lot of songs to the baby and then I sing along to them. And because I don't always
know the words, I call up like the lyrics on Apple Music. When you actually look at most songs,
just the lyrics, there's not much to them, is there?
No.
Song lyrics are surprisingly sparse and don't say much.
No, they're very simple, aren't they?
They're very bare.
They really need the music.
And they don't make a lot of sense often.
Well, they often suggest word pictures or they, yeah,
it's all about the melody in my view.
Songs are all about the melody.
For me, words are secondary
Which is why your role in the whole operation
Is much less important than mine
It's the same with children's storybooks
It's all about the pictures
Like the author's name goes first
But the author writes about eight sentences
And then some genius does all these fantastic pictures
And the author becomes famous.
That's right.
The cat sat on the mat.
And then there's this, you know, oh, look at that really awesome mat.
Look at that beautiful cute cat.
Every time we read a goodnight story to the baby,
either me or my wife says at the end of the story,
bloody money for old rope that was.
Money for old rope.
Like writing those stories.
And they're not cheap, but writing those stories and they're they're not cheap
and but they're big and they're hard back and you've got to have lots and lots and lots of them
and um yeah my well we're on it have you got any books by oliver jeffers oliver jeffers is my
favorite children's storybook in those i feel like we have every children's book that exists
so we must what what are some of his books?
He's got, oh, jeez, I can't remember the names of them now.
There was one about a boy who ate books and there was one about a lonely boy
who gets out with a penguin, like, rows out to the North Pole
and there's a penguin there.
And then.
I'll look into it.
Have you got things like Where the Wild Things Are?
Yes.
Like, how many versions of that have we got right okay yep and the magic the the very hungry caterpillar
surely you've got the very hungry and the magic and the magic possum all right yep yep mem fox
that's right yeah our friend we've got a friend who lives basically next door to mem fox so he
bought like 20 of her books and took
them around to her house and she signed them all so we've got we've got all these mem fox signed
books no that's lovely that's lovely we met men fox in the street one day and i introduced the
girls and they were pretty excited so anyway here we go man this all right so i've now now to to um
bring this particular idea to life and our future song,
which is about to be birthed, which doesn't exist yet,
and which is about to exist, I've brought along a prop.
Right.
Which I've just dropped.
I've brought along the official Tim Hine Unmade Podcast Plectrum.
Guitar pick, yep.
And a guitar.
Woo-hoo-hoo! made podcast plectrum guitar pick and a guitar hold up the guitar for the camera so i can i'll show a picture for people hang on let me take a picture all right you got it there we go this is
my friend andrew's guitar and he went away overseas uh and so he lent it to me. And it's not given me any new songs yet, man, until now.
So come on.
We start with the words, which is your job.
All right.
This song's called The Man in Black.
Hang on a second.
Hang on.
You can't just go like that, man.
You've got to look around the room and you've got to look into your spirit
and you've got to come up with.
I'm already there.
I'm already in the zone.
You're pulling me out of it.
Get out of the zone for a minute, man.
I need to explain how to get out of the zone.
Get out of the zone so I can put you back in the zone.
You might be in the wrong zone.
That's a guarantee.
All right. Okay. You're back in the zone. Yeah. What's this song called?
Man in Black. The Man in Black. Man, there's already a song called The Man in Black. You can't steal another song. That's a Johnny Cash song. This is called The Man in Black is Back.
The Man in Black. So it's combining Back in Black, which is also a song.
So it's combining Back in Black, which is also a song.
The man in black is back, right?
All right.
What's the second line?
And he's wearing a black cap.
And he's wearing a black... This is not a children's book, man.
This is a song.
And he's wearing a black cap. right let's have let's just let's just see i don't know
what's going to come out of my fingers now all right you tell me when you're like what do you
think is it sort of like a rock song it's it starts it's it's a rainy Monday night.
So there's like a sense of foreboding.
Oh, okay.
So we need a minor key.
Yeah.
Tim needs some kind of neck brace to keep his head still.
He's giving it the full The full Dip I like that
Man in back
Hang on
Hang on
Hang on
Is the man in back black
Or is
No the man in black is back
I liked
I liked that gravelly voice though
You're really capturing the mood
Oh no
Yeah
So this is not
So he's not
The man
Hang on
So he's not a black man
He's white But he's not a black man.
He's white.
No. But he's got a black, but he's in black.
Yeah.
I'm just waiting to see how long it takes Tim to realise it's him wearing black and a black cap.
The man in black.
The man in black is back.
Man in black
the man in black
is back
no no no the second time
no no no
that was good the man in black
the man in black is back
the man in black
the man in black and a black cap
and a black cat
and a black cat
the man in black and a black cap and a black cat and a black cap yeah the man in black he's wearing a
black hat no it's not hat it's cap oh hang on yeah so no so the first line is the man in black
the man in black is back yeah and then repeat it the man in black the man in black. The man in black.
And a black cap.
And a black cap.
Very good.
The man in black.
The man in black.
And a black cap.
Starting to sound like a Dr. Seuss comic, really, isn't it?
All right.
Third line.
Third line. Okay.
I feel like you need to switch it up a little bit.
Yeah, okay.
You're still in the zone, man.
All right.
That's a long time in the zone.
I want to go.
I want to do something about that it's Monday night.
Monday night.
We're talking footy.
The man in black,
the man in black is back.
The man in black and a black cap.
Monday night.
It's Monday night.
It's Monday night,
another hard night. It's Monday night, another hard night It's Monday night, another hard night
At the pod mic
Pod mic?
What is a pod mic?
A podcast microphone
Oh, right, oh, right
It's Monday night, another hard night
At the pod mic
It's Monday... Okay, so...
It's a Monday night.
It's a Monday night.
Another hard night at the pod mic.
Another hard night at the pod mic.
It's got to go down the pod, Mike.
That's got to go down, pod Mike.
I can't go up.
It's like, this is like... You want me to keep the same melody going?
I've got, obviously, I've got more...
Yeah, it's a bit, it's a slog, you know.
He's driven in on a rainy night.
He's got to record another podcast.
It's like, there's a sense of like, it's a real slog.
Another hard night at the pod, Mike.
That's the same melody, you see.
I've got so many melodies and harmonies.
I want to vary it.
But, okay, so we need a full...
We've got a whole album to make, man.
Don't blow them all on the first song.
That's what Noel Gallagher did.
Blew all his best songs on the first two albums
and then the next six albums are all the same song.
Yeah, I'm not going to make that mistake.
Not with this album anyway.
Okay, we need a fourth line there.
Let me get...
It's a...
Black, the man in black is back.
The man in black, man in black And his little black cap
I feel like I had it
Oh no
It's the man in black
The man in black is back
The man in black
The man in black
And a black cap
Alright
The man in black
And a black cap
Another hard night
At the pod, Mike
Monday night, Monday night
Another hard night at the pod, Mike
Yeah.
Do you want to say Monday night again?
Or do you want to say Tuesday night?
Yeah, I think you're right, yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
It should have that reflection, shouldn't it?
It's Monday night.
Night.
And I want to go up an octave here.
I wanted this to be really anthemic the last time.
Yeah, okay.
So it's Monday night.
Black.
I want to do something with the light.
I want to use light to rhyme with Mike.
Because I've got this picture of him in this dark building
and there's this one light burning where he's like burning the midnight oil
at the microphone. Oh, so he's like a man in black
but he's full of light or he's looking for light or something. There's a contrast
there. Could be what a night, what
a sight, what a light. Oh, he sees a light.
It's Monday night, a lonely man and
a street light Oh
I can tell why you're the words man
A lonely man and a street light
A lonely man
A lonely night
And a street light
No it's Monday night
So the second two verses
It's Monday night
What was my line?
What was the mic one?
A lonely man
A lonely night
A lonely man at a street light
No, no, no
The one before that
What was the pod mic one?
Are you writing these down?
You're the words, man
I'm here writing the melodies
I saw you writing them down, though
I thought you were writing them down
You've literally got a pen in your hand as well
You're just using it to tap
Yeah, but I'm like
So how does it go?
It goes...
The man in black, the man in black is back.
The man in black and his little black cap.
No, that's not little.
Hang on.
I need to write this down.
I'm not good at writing longhand.
I always write in shorthand.
Hang on.
It goes the man in black, right?
Yeah.
The man in black is back.
Yeah, he's back.
This would be good. I can hear a rap version of this song too. And then it goes the man in black, right? Yeah. The man in black is back. Yeah, he's back. This would be good.
I can hear a rap version of this song too.
And then it goes, the man in black, the man in black,
and a black cap, and a black cap.
Not a little black cap because that makes it sound silly and cute.
And then it goes, it's Monday night.
It's Monday night.
Another hard night at the pod mic.
You see, this is a song about you and your Monday night.
And then it goes, it's Monday night, a lonely man and a streetlight.
Because I'm seeing you on your own in that office
with a streetlight out on the street.
And it's like this sad, everyone's gone to bed and asleep.
And you're just the man in black in your black cap at the microphone
having to churn out another unmade podcast.
A lonely man and a streetlight.
You are here with me.
The man in black. The man in black.
The man in black.
The man in black is back.
The man in black.
The man in black and a black cap.
It's Monday night.
Another hard night at the pod, Mike.
It's Monday night. A lonely man and a streetlight.
Okay, I'm typing this in because I need it nice in front of me.
What's it?
Hard night at the pod, Mike.
It's Monday night.
Another hard night at the pod, Mike.
Yep, got that.
And then it's Monday night, a lonely man and a streetlight.
Because that doesn't totally make sense, but again, it's painting a picture,
which is what I'm learning lyrics are about.
It is, it is.
Because you can already see the film clip, can't you?
The man in black, the man in black is back
Man in black, man in black and a black cat
And a black cat
It's Monday night, another hard night at the pod, Mike.
It's Monday night.
A lonely man in a street light.
The man in black.
I rest my case. I was right years ago.
All it needed was for you to lift your guitar game.
How many decades did that take?
Now I can play two chords and we're on our way.
This is great.
All right.
If anyone out there wants to finish the song,
send it in to us, unmadefm at gmail.com.
That's right, because I think that's a great
That's a great first verse
But I reckon there's a soaring chorus
And I want to hear
Yeah
People could create your own creativity now
And this
This is what comes out
I love it
See you've just got to apply the pressure
You can sit there all day thinking Oh if only I had See, you've just got to apply the pressure.
You can sit there all day thinking, oh, if only I had more time.
You've just got to do it.
You've just got to do it with this stuff.
That's right.
That's right.
Write it down.
See what comes out.
Now, don't be discouraged, people, if you don't come out with something as polished as what we've been able to come up with now because we're in the zone
and you may not be in the zone.
We were in the zone, yeah.
And I'm lucky enough to be working with the man in black and a black cat
and a pod mic.
If we'd swap roles, I'd be writing a song with a guy in a white shirt
and scruffy hair.
It's a guy in a white T-shirt and bedhead.
Bedhair is a good name for a song.
Bedhair.
All right.
Bedhair.
Anyway.
Very good.
Very good idea.
Very good idea.
And we've instantly proven that it works as well.
We have.
Can I say just a little bit of unmade podcast guitar redemption there perhaps?
All right.
Yeah.
A little bit.
I think you've got a good singing voice. I mean that guitar sounded fine that guitar sounded fine but you're talking as if there was
a problem with your money for nothing riff do you know i tried the riff the other day and i'm
further backwards from where i was then like i'm like'm like, I don't even know where my phone is.
Go on.
Go on.
Go on.
It's somewhere here because it's sort of.
Oh, hang on.
Oh, that's.
I literally can't remember.
There's another one.
I literally can't remember which finger I... There's another one.
I'm not mucking around.
That's it.
I'm trying to...
No, it's not that.
That's it.
That's it.
Beautiful. Perfect. Fixed it. I like it when you think you've got it right your voice goes deeper
that's it yeah that's it that's it you're not recording are you all right
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Under video or images, what are you doing?
I'm going under video because I'm imagining making a music video.
Yep.
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Oh, this is a very good piece of footage for our video.
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They're all there. And then it says people also searched for pages and pages. They are all men in black, right? They're all there.
And then it says people also searched for evil and map.
And I'm like, man, that's a whole other verse right there.
Almost Storyblocks writing it for us.
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And now it's time for
Spoon of the Week
Tim, I'm jumping in again and stealing your thunder
Rather than going to the traditional Heinz spoon collection
I've just been on holiday this week
So I bought some spoons And I always like putting my holiday spoons into the collection if I've just been on holiday this week, so I bought some spoons,
and I always like putting my holiday spoons into the collection, if I may.
Oh, what have you got?
Well, I was in Paris.
It was our first holiday with the baby,
and we went to two main attractions.
Obviously, you see a million attractions in Paris,
but we actually paid and went to two,
so they're the two things I've got spoons for.
We have, we have, take them out of the box if I can.
There we go.
We have the Arc de Triomphe.
Oh, that's nice, yes.
So it's a pretty regulation spoon
but then as you go up the stem to the handle
you get sort of a French flag
and on top of that you have this circle
and inside the circle is a,
like a sculpture model of the arc de triomphe
it kind of looks like you could use it as a bottle opener as well like it's got it's very practical
in its purpose but i like that a little bit different a nice french red or something a
bordeaux i don't know and the other place we went was the louvre and we went and saw the mona lisa
so i have a mona lisa spoon's a, it's a, just a
nice regulation, pretty souvenir spoon, but at the top in the handle is an enameled copy of the Mona
Lisa. I believe that's a copy because the actual Mona Lisa is a little bit bigger than that.
A little bit, but smaller than you think. Lovely. That's nice.
It was absolutely packed at the Mona Lisa. So you could go and stand in the room and look at it,
but if you wanted to go and stand right up next to it and have a selfie,
you had to go in this queue, which I wasn't willing to do.
So we just did our pictures from a distance.
Nice.
We went there years ago, and it was the same.
I mean, it's a big room, but it's always full of people.
And then you turn around, and then there's the amazing – what is it?
The banquet at –
The Wedding of Cana is behind.
The Wedding of Cana. Yeah, she looks at the Wed looks at the wedding of cana yeah oh and that's just which is a huge painting that's which is a much more beautiful painting it's an amazing painting
and everyone's got their back to it because they're looking at the mona lisa yeah i know
it's gorgeous i've got a lovely picture of my wife with a you know sort of hands out with the
wedding in cana behind that is um that we love yeah yeah
so i will send those spoons over to you to join the mother load oh wow perhaps be immortalized
one day on collector cards oh that's lovely there's there's i'm gonna need a special rack
for these sort of lovely gift ones the ones from gray last time and now these speaking of the mona
lisa so there was something i had to buy i had had to buy it and I did. And I think we could start this as a new Unmade Podcast tradition.
I bought a pair of socks and these are Mona Lisa socks.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
There's a picture in the show notes if you want to see them.
It's a kind of dodgy Mona Lisa.
It looks like it was painted by that woman that did that restoration of Jesus that went terribly wrong.
painted by that woman that did that restoration of Jesus. That went terribly wrong.
Looks like the restoration that Mr Bean did of...
It's like Mona Lisa's sister that no one talks about.
Anyway, so there's these Mona Lisa socks.
Created on Windows 95 graphics here.
Yeah, you're right.
They were so bad I had to buy them and now i don't really
know what to do with them so and then i'm and then i remembered in harry potter when that house elf
gets given a sock and that's how it gets its freedom dobby the house elf gets his freedom
when he gets given a sock if you give a house elf a piece of clothing they're free or whatever and
he's sneakily given a sock so i thought maybe when I start going on my travels,
and you could do likewise, if we can find a pair of souvenir socks
that are sufficiently memorable and rubbish, like these Mona Lisa ones,
we will bring them home and then send them to randomly chosen stakeholders
using our special algorithm that chooses winners.
So I'm going to send one sock each to two of our stakeholders,
two of our Patreon supporters, as a prize.
Oh, wow.
People could make sock puppets out of them.
I love sock puppets.
The algorithm has chosen Annie B from Clemson in the US
and Bern from Vissingen in the Netherlands.
I'm going to send each of you one of these Mona Lisa socks,
which you can do with as you choose or just celebrate your freedom
from house self-servitude.
Well, how blessed are they?
Because they didn't even know this prize existed when they signed up.
Yep.
Hopefully they remain podcast patron supporters because...
Yeah, getting the sock doesn't free you from being a Patreon supporter.
Although it is an option, but...
Or you could be just so offended you might give it up.
Have a look at the picture in the show notes, people.
These socks are a sight to behold.
They are.
They are.
And we have our usual prizes to give as well to to
stakeholders to our patreon supporters go to patreon.com slash unmade fm hey tim why don't
you play background music while i do the awards oh yeah okay here we go here we go the winners
you can just i'll say them and if you want to just riff a little bit on the names you can it's up to
you all right with a spoon an
unmade podcast souvenir spoon is going to john from glenside in pennsylvania john
keep reading that all right you can't just pause leave me hanging right. And then we have a Sofashop mixtape going to Adam from Pflugerville in Texas.
Pflugerville.
Yeah.
Pflugerville.
Yeah, Pflugerville.
That sounded a bit like Bruce Springsteen.
Pflugerville.
One, two, three.
One, two, three.
And then we have Unmade Podcast cards,
Spoon of the Week collector cards.
Spoon of the Week collector cards will be going too.
Stephen from Boise, Idaho.
That's a good music one.
Idaho. Luke from Syden he a man. Idaho.
Luke from Sydenham in Victoria.
Victoria.
McGuayle from Zaragoza in Spain.
McGuayle.
McGuayle. McGuayle.
We have Henry from Mentone, also in Victoria, Australia.
Oh, Mentone, lovely. Driven past Mentone many times.
Yeah?
Oh, Tim broke out of character there.
Mentone?
Mentone?
Oh, that's great.
And last but not least, James S from Washington State.
James S. Nothing rhymes with S, really S. from Washington State. James S.
Nothing rhymes with S, really, does it?
No.
James S.
Washington State.
That's where Seattle is, though, is that right?
Correct.
Yeah, yeah.
Top that up there in the northwest of the country.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The northwest.
I could drop into some grunge.
Okay.
Anyway.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Oh, you mean, sorry, to the winners, yes.
Congratulations to anyone still listening.
And now it's time for...
Today's Moon of the Week is from Jupiter.
This moon is called a Leda.
That's spelt L-E-D-A.
And the reason I've chosen it is our dog sitters have a dog themselves.
So it's one of Audrey's friends.
When Audrey goes away for dog sitting, she stays with this other dog called Leda.
And Leda is named after the moon of Jupiter.
They used to have another dog called Io that was named after a very famous moon of Jupiter called Io.
Their little grandson named the dog because he was into space.
And when Io went to the great farm in the sky, they got another dog and decided they would name it after another moon of Jupiter.
And they chose Leda.
And Leda is a really obscure moon.
I've never heard of it. When they said, oh, we've named our dog after this moon of jupiter called leader i was like i've never heard of
that one but there you go it's a moon of jupiter called leader such it's just such part of your
shtick that you would have a friend whose um dog is named after uh some obscure piece of space
memorabilia but they're not space people they space people. They're not nerdy space people.
They're like a really elderly couple.
They just said, oh, we've got to come up with a Jupiter moon
because our dog just died and the grandson's sad.
What's another moon of Jupiter?
And when they looked at the list of all the moons of Jupiter,
that was the one they thought sounded best for a dog name.
Why was the first one named after the moon from Jupiter?
I said because they had this grandson who is into space oh yeah yeah famous moon yeah
yeah so leader was discovered in 1974 on some photographic plates taken by the schmidt telescope
at mount palomar this was a really old-fashioned way of finding moons. You take two pictures of the sky at different times
and you see what's moved.
Have any of the dots moved?
Because stars don't move.
But if something's moved, it could be a comet,
it could be an asteroid, it could be a moon.
That's how they saw, oh, look, that dot was there in that picture
and an hour later it was over there.
It's obviously moving.
What is it?
This was a moon.
Oh, very clever.
It's the smallest moon of a group of five jupiter
moons which are called the himalayan group uh these are five moons that are quite far away from
jupiter and they're kind of like all similar to each other and what they think happened was
an asteroid was captured by the gravity of Jupiter and then this asteroid either broke or it was already broken
and Jupiter just captured these five fragments.
And then they started going around Jupiter for all time.
They became trapped.
But because they're all, like, related,
because they're from the same source,
they're given this name of this Himalayan group.
The largest of them is called Himalaya,
hence the name Himalayan group. The largest of them is called Himalaya, hence the name Himalayan group. There's
also Lycithia, Ellora, Leda, the one we're talking about today, and another one that was never named
and now seems to have disappeared. They think it may have crashed into one of the other ones.
Don't know. Well, that's what I was going to ask. Do they each not have any kind of,
like, do they stay in the same relation to one another while they go around or are they not crashing into one another and by now they've kind of got their own thing going on
but they look similar and they both travel and they're all traveling in the same direction and
they're a similar distance from jupiter so they've got a lot in common and they look the same because
they're made from the same stuff but they're they've got they've got their own thing going
on now they're their own moons it's like a moon carpool, isn't it? They're all just sort of in together going around.
They're like a gang.
They're like a gang that hang out.
A gang of moons.
Yeah, or a clique.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, Leda, the one that we're talking about,
for no reason other than its name,
it's about 7 million miles from Jupiter.
It takes 241 of our Earth days to go around to complete an orbit of Jupiter.
There's not much else to say about it that's particularly interesting,
other than it was named after a woman in Greek mythology
who is depicted in many paintings because of a famous story.
Leda was, if you read the NASA website, seduced by Zeus.
Oh, yeah.
If you read other stories, it wasn't so much as seduced,
but it was a bit more forcible than seduction.
Yeah, that's pretty typical of the Greek gods, to be honest.
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
And the reason it's famous is at the time, I believe,
Zeus was disguised as a swan.
And there are lots of paintings of Leda and this swan,
many famous paintings by the likes of da Vinci and Michelangelo.
So it's a famous, famous story.
And here's the last interesting thing.
The discoverer of Leda, a guy named Charles Cowell,
didn't want the satellite, the moon, to be named.
He preferred the idea of astronomers giving the moons just numbers,
using a numbering system. But the International the international astronomical union wanted to give it a name
so he did suggest the name leader and the reason leader was chosen or one of the reasons it was
chosen is it ends with a which is in keeping with the international astronomical union's policy
of designating jupiter's outer moons, which have a prograde
orbit, which means they orbit in the same direction or that Jupiter itself is spinning.
That's called prograde.
And if you are a prograde outer moon of Jupiter, the IAU likes your name to end with the letter
A.
Right.
So we had Hamalia, Lysithea, Ellara and L and leader so i had to end with an a there you go
if you were like a an outer moon of jupiter with a prograde orbit we would have to call you like
timothea or something like that i'd be brada that's right that's right maybe that could be
my stage name my songwriting alias or something it could could be. Interesting moon. I love that you got into a bit of Greek mythology there as well.
Greek mythology, pet dogs, last letters, bit of everything.
This should be an adults only section of the Unmade podcast where we tell people to actually
Google leader and the swan images.
It was an explicit moment in mythology.
It's time for my podcast idea.
You've got an idea and you're feeling pretty chuffed about it, yeah?
I like it.
I like it.
This was actually an idea that also was suggested by a listener
whose name I have since forgotten.
I apologise, but I'm acknowledging you.
You also sent this in.
It's sort of similar to something I'd been thinking about. So, this would be a limited
series podcast. It would be finite in number, and each episode is about a different topic.
Right.
The first episode of this series would be about the former US president,
Harry Truman.
Right.
Very interesting president. He made the decision to drop the nuclear bomb on Japan.
You know, a very interesting time in history.
The second episode of my podcast would then cover one of the stars of the golden age of Hollywood, Doris Day.
Very famous, famous actress.
Right.
The third episode would be about the rise of communist China through history.
You know, through the 20th century, it became a big thing, didn't it?
And look what we've got today.
Are you seeing a theme developing here at all?
Harry Truman, Doris Day, the Hiroshima bomb, Billy Joel.
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray.
Very nice. My podcast is called We Didn't Start the Fire
And every episode is about a different piece of the song
We Didn't Start the Fire
Why didn't I think of that?
That's great.
How annoying.
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnny Ray,
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio,
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studi Baker,
television, North Korea, South Korea,
Marilyn Monroe.
Marilyn Monroe.
There we go.
We've talked about this song before,
and, yeah yeah that's
Damn it why didn't I think of that
Good idea
You can have a listen to the song if you want to know all the things that will be in it
But it's you know
Joseph Stalin, Rockefeller
Rock and roll the cola wars
I can't take it anymore
The cola wars would be the last episode
That's the last one
Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's Got a Winning Team davy crockett peter pan elvis presney disneyland like this so and there's you
know not only are all those like interesting famous things they've also got this historical
context it goes without saying all of them are interesting things to make a podcast episode
about that's why they're in the song as billy joel goes through you know history and all the
things that are significant it's kind of his life't it, as he's a baby boomer
and it's kind of his life from the start to the end.
Nice idea.
You say it's finite, but the song goes on and on.
Like it doesn't feel finite.
I was telling my wife about this idea before coming on air.
She's a big music fan.
She suggested another shorter series that would
be good to do. The episodes in her series would include Greta Garbo, Marilyn Monroe, Dietrich,
DiMaggio, Marlon Brando, Jimmy Dean on the cover of a magazine, Grace Kelly, Harlow Jean,
Picture of a Beauty Queen, Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, Ginger Rogers, Dance on Air.
Are you with me?
I actually, I'm not.
This sounds familiar.
I'm thinking it's an Elton John song.
Am I wrong?
This is the musical interlude in the song Vogue.
Oh, right.
Yeah, okay.
I didn't sing it very well.
They had style.
They had grace.
Rita Haywood gave good face.
Fred Agarbo and Monroe, Dietrich and DiMaggio.
You're not Madonna-esque, I have to say.
No, my wife's a very big Madonna fan.
She would have sung that better.
And there's one other song that I think would be brilliant to do this with as well.
The episodes would all be about places.
It would include Reno, Chicago, Fargo, Minnesota, Buffalo, Toronto, Winslow, Sarasota, Wichita, Tulsa,
Ottawa, Oklahoma, Tampa, Panama.
Do you know the song?
No, I don't.
I want to say something like rocking all over the world or something.
But I don't know.
It is I've Been Everywhere, Man by Johnny Cash.
Oh, okay.
I've been everywhere, man. And he sings them all really, really fast, all the place names.
And he just absolutely...
You know that song where he cannons them off really fast?
I know the chorus of the song.
I didn't know he did that in the verses.
I don't think I've ever listened to the song from start to finish.
I've been to Boston, Charleston, Dayton, Louisiana, Washington, Houston, Kingston,
Saxon, County Monterey, Faraday, Santa Fe, Tolliver...
So there you go.
We Didn't Start the Fire, I think, would be a great series.
I'm sure this has been done, to be honest.
I'm sure there have been a million,
I'm sure millions of things have been done with this, blogs and things.
I'm sure even a podcast, maybe.
I haven't seen it, but I also just like listening to the song.
There's a lot of things like that, aren't there?
There's songs with lists in them,
and you can use them as a finite little world and go for it. Good idea.
There's like a comedy band from Australia called the Scared Weird Little Guys and they've also got
a cover of Everywhere Man but instead of
American places they use Australian locations and they also throw in a few jokes. Yeah, the scared weird little guys.
They're good.
They're very funny.
Good idea.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's one of those songs where I'm not sure what I think of it totally. We didn't start the fire. That's one of those songs where I'm not sure what I think of it totally,
we didn't start the fire, but if it comes on the radio,
if I come across it, I listen to it through to the end.
You know what I mean?
It's a bit like a Tom Hanks movie.
You're like, ah, here we go.
Let's just, you know, jump in here with Forrest Gump
and see it through to the end, I guess.
Told you you'd like that idea.
Told you you'd like it.
That's a low-hanging fruit, Tim, you know, pleasing idea.
That is, that's the sort of one.
Yeah.
No, I'm never going to disagree with.
Do you want to take us out with a bit of the man in black is back?
Oh, the man in black is back.
Be nice to see the man in black is back sung at the same speed of We Didn't Start the Fire.
Remember, unmadefm at gmail.com if you want to send us your own
completed version of The Man in Black is Back.
Hang on.
I've got to get back into character now as the Man in Black.
You are the Man in Black in a black cap.
I hate to wear you. You are the character. black and a black cap i hate to wear you are
the character now's the time to break it to you man i'm wearing blue it just looks black on the
camera i'm actually the man in blue and a neck snooze
The man in blue and a neck snoo.
You know, if I'd been really, a really good songwriter and a really good father, I would have incorporated the words
waffle and spinach into the song somewhere, but I didn't.
So... The man in black
The man in black is back
And a waffle
The man in black
The man in black and a black cat
In Spanish
It's Monday night
Another hard night at the pod, Mike.
It's Monday night, a lonely man and a street light.
Hey, the man in black, the man in black is back.
But do you know what?
A lot of songs, that would be enough.
And you just repeat that a few times.
And people go, oh, the man in black is back.
And then when you actually listen to it, nothing actually happens.
So many songs are like that.
It's like there are like three lines that just repeat.
And then it just like.
And then he wakes up to a new day
You know, it needs like a bridge where there's like a
The man in black, he wakes up the next morning
But then he goes back
That's right, yeah
I look forward to hearing the choruses
I want to hear some soaring choruses from people
Alright
Complete the song, The Man in Black