The Unmade Podcast - 116: Wild and Dangerous

Episode Date: September 15, 2022

Tim and Brady discuss musical submissions, the Seinfeld Showbag, more showbags, birthdays and dying, the Salvation Army, Button Moon, and a photograph of Tim playing cricket. Watch Brady's Man in Bla...ck music video made with Storyblocks footage - https://youtu.be/jK5yreQpfCg Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/xesncy Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://youtu.be/sCao6x-ZlfM USEFUL LINKS Episode 115, where The Man in Black was born - https://www.unmade.fm/episodes/episode115 More submissions, lyrics, etc - all is here - https://www.unmade.fm/man-in-black See pics from the Seinfeld Showbag here - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-116-pictures People who died on their birthday - https://familypedia.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_people_who_died_on_their_birthdays The Birthday Effect - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_effect Pictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Send your own spoon by following these instructions - https://www.unmade.fm/send-us-a-spoon The Salvation Army - https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk Button Moon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button_Moon Tim's Cricket Shot - https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5990824849fc2b4c4fe4211b/1663109417171-T3PQB63RDT5EQH1ODL34/Tim+Cricket+Shot+PHOTO-2022-09-03-22-51-33.jpeg?format=500w Tim's 'Stumpman' Merch now available - check out the T-Shirts and footwear! - https://the-unmade-podcast.creator-spring.com/listing/tim-stumpman-logo Brady's 'shot of the century' is also now available as merchandise - including a jigsaw - https://the-unmade-podcast.creator-spring.com/listing/shot-of-the-century-unmade

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Starting point is 00:00:00 well let's jump straight in tim because in the last episode in episode 115 tim's idea was called creativity now again not the best name but we've come to expect that from you but what it lacked in a name it made up for as a fertile ground for a podcast. Because the idea basically was to create something on the spot, a way of getting out of writer's block or a creative log jam, was to put you on the spot and come up with an idea then and now. And what Tim and I did was, well, we started crafting a song. Tim cracked out the guitar, David Brent style.
Starting point is 00:00:45 I went into my special place for the lyrics, drew on my experiences, that deep well of hurt and angst. Wow, a well. What a beautiful analogy. You just have lyrics flowing out of you. I've never heard of the soul being described as a well before, man. I know. It's more of a well before, man. I know. It's more of a cesspit, if I'm honest.
Starting point is 00:01:09 A bore. Yes. A stagnant pond. So the song we started writing was called The Man in Black is Back. And it was inspired by me looking at the screen, seeing Tim sitting there in front of his microphone in basically the same outfit he's wearing now exactly the same outfit a warm jumper in my cap he's got the dark black shirt and a jumper and a cap which Tim insists is blue but
Starting point is 00:01:38 I'm calling it as black and basically the place I went to was a cold Monday night in Adelaide. Tim trudging into the church where he works in his little side office, switching on the lights on a dark night and having to churn out another podcast. This kind of while all of Adelaide sleeps, the man in black's there doing his job, doing his duty for podcasting. You make me sound like the priest in Eleanor Rigby, you know, Father McKenzie, that's right, sitting alone in his dark. All right. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:14 So anyway, we wrote the first verse, and for those who don't remember, I'll give you a little bit of a flashback. Here's what we came up with. Here's what we came up with. It's Monday night Another hard night at the pod, Mike It's Monday night A lonely man and a streetlight Hey, the man in black The man in black is the man in black is back. So there it is.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And Tim laid down the challenge for other people out there to finish the job, to turn it into an actual song. I think we've planted the seed. We've done the hard work. And we've crossed the ball into the centre and we've invited people now just to knock it into the goal and finish the song. Yeah, yeah. Would you think, is this an easy challenge? Cross the ball into the centre and we've invited people now just to knock it into the goal and finish the song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah. Would you think, is this an easy challenge? In other words, is this a bit like, okay, I've just sat down and I've written half of Eleanor Rigby, the song I mentioned before, classic Beatles song. And you're asking people basically to pop on the last verse. Or is this more like I've given them three chords and they really have crafted eleanor rigby out of something very rudimentary what do you is this a stone or a diamond what is it i mean we're really just inviting them just to put the full stop on our magic sentence no of course of course there is much to be done to turn this into a proper song
Starting point is 00:04:01 and uh we've had some submissions and frankly my socks have been knocked off by the quality of some of these submissions it's been it's really been amazing people have taken this bowl and run with it and they have run in some very impressive touchdowns in my opinion i know man i this has really been quite incredible i mean the the entire canon of sofa shop covers was impressive and reached heights we could not imagine but i just feel like well that was more about the quantity it's the quality that's really coming to the fore with the man in black it's uh i'm really quite amazed let's start with my favorite normally you would save the best for, but I just want to put it out there. I love this.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I love all of them. You're in for numerous treats. But this is the one that really tickled me. This has been sent in by Finn and Kaya. And Finn has written this email. Hello, Brady and Tim. My name's Finn. I'm from Bristol, which is near where
Starting point is 00:05:06 I live. And I've been a lover of the podcast for a while now, but have only recently bought some recording equipment. So I'm too late for a sofa shop cover. You're actually not Finn, but we'll get back to that later. Yeah. But very happy to be able to join in with this. Thankfully, my girlfriend has more than my non-existent singing ability, so you have been spared from my own singing. Although, as you'll hear, I have done some spoken word sections, which can only be described as absolutely gorgeous. Hope you get a kick out of it, as we had a blast making it. Cheers, and keep up the excellent podcasting from Finn and Kaya. So, here it is. Enjoy. A man in black, a man in black and a black cat
Starting point is 00:06:05 It's Monday night, another hard night at the bar or bike It's Monday night, a lonely man in the street Man and straight eye Sinner, sinner, chicken sinner He's a man, a man in black He promised us food But all we've got is Roots And he's back
Starting point is 00:06:49 The man is back The man in black The man in black Has a KFC snack He gave it to his craving But the man in black The man in black Is gonna bounce back's gonna bounce back, he's gonna bounce back.
Starting point is 00:07:08 The man looks up, the moonlight bright on the altar. The walls fall. We rode it along, but the man in black never fought it thus. About the man in black never fought in the... Never fought in the... Say no, say no, chicken dinner He's a man, but not sweeto One hundred hookahs a-sittin' The ideas are running thin And he's in black
Starting point is 00:07:49 Always in black The man slowly turns, staring across the graveyard. He jumps as a obsidian camel to obscure his eyes. The withdrawals from his pocket are gone. I'm going to go back. It's back. It's back. Now, let me tell you, Brady, you could put that on the radio today. That is amazing. I think that's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Brilliant. Incredible. Brilliant. Wow. I mean... Can I tell you, Tim, I got sent this one and I opened the email on my phone and I happened to be in the car and I played it on my car stereo and my car's got quite a good stereo and it sounded amazing. If you have a chance to listen to this with good headphones or on something other than just your tinny phone or however you're listening to a podcast, this is beautifully produced. Kaya's got a banging voice.
Starting point is 00:09:10 It's amazing. This sounds amazing for starters. It does. It does. It's really well produced. And I tell you, whatever recording equipment you've just bought, Finn and Kaya, keep it. It's fantastic. You're pumping out
Starting point is 00:09:25 the hits this is i have to say even thinking a bit more deeply i've been listening to this and i think i can hear a few influences in there now this is this is no disrespect to the originality brought by fin and kaya but i i have to say i can there's a little bit of david bowie in this particularly in in the sort of segue to the bridge, quite a bit of David Bowie, and I like that. Yeah. But there's also a little bit, the dark undertone, the voice that comes in is a little bit of an Australian artist
Starting point is 00:09:55 I really love called Dave Graney, and there's a little bit of a cheeky deep voice there of Dave Graney, and I really like that. But then it soars. Then I can hear a bit of Blondie or even a bit of Patti Smith, and that was really fantastic. Yeah, you could put that on the radio. It's so well done.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Can I also say I like the has a KFC snack going to bounce back little couplet. I thought that was a good lyric. Well, I do love Sinner, Sinner, Chicken Dinner, which is a play on the phrase winner, winner, chicken dinner as well, which I thought was quite clever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Besides sounding great, right? And being like a good song. Can I say why this is my personal favourite? And that is, this is the one that really captures what I was trying to do when I was like, you know, throwing some lyrics at you. It really captures the mood of night time.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And also, I really like kind of the, I really like the religious sort of undercurrent going through it because I really had this picture of you at the church in the annex. And we've got like references to sinners and altars. And there's all this kind of you know giving into cravings and that has a real kind of um it has this kind of religious undercurrent which i wanted to convey because you know your job as a church minister i wanted to be a little bit intertwined in there so i really i really think it's really clever the the moon and you know the moonlight on the altar so it's it's taking in like moons and spoons and KFC and chicken and things from our, like, the lore of Unmade.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But it's also got this really, like, churchy religious feel, which really worked for me. Yeah, yeah. The sacred and the profane together. It is. It's very clever. And it's really well written. And I'm not just saying that because I wrote it.
Starting point is 00:11:50 No, I like they took it in a different direction. Very high quality. What a way to start. I actually assumed Kaya was a singer. I emailed back Finn. And Finn's only a bit of an amateur musician, he tells me. He does a bit of amateur recording and he's in like a he's in a like a band that he says isn't that great but he he didn't big himself up very much but i assumed i assumed from his email maybe kaya was a singer you know and she just got roped
Starting point is 00:12:15 into doing this but apparently she's just a you know in the shower singer banging out the songs but i i really enjoyed her voice are we sure this isn't Neil Finn from Crowded House? Very impressive. Anyway. Strong start. Good work. Let's move on. I heard from Amelia in South Africa.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Hello, Tim and Brady. Unmade has helped me tremendously over the last few years. My sincere gratitude to both of you. I think it's only fitting that I contribute to my favourite show at the pod mic. The message of the Creativity Now podcast resonates with me. Art is way more satisfying if you just start and don't stop. Let your intuition guide you. I would like to present to you my rendition of The Man in Black and a Black Cap. Guitar, bass and vocals by me, drums by my good friend Logan, also known as the garage band classic rock drumming ai love and hugs from south africa yours most sincerely amelia take it away amelia
Starting point is 00:13:13 this year's a song about a man like a black cat The Men in Black The Men in Black, The Men in Black is back The Men in Black, The Men in Black and a black cap I got a black cap A Monday night A lonely night At the pot light A Monday night A lonely man
Starting point is 00:13:55 By a street light Waiting for the light Of his best friend's blinding light Waiting patiently to sky Yeah, his spoon by his side I have to say, what I hear in this one, Brady, this is a got a bit of a mid-'90s coffee shop acoustic guitar in the corner kind of performance about it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:38 That sort of it's like there was a whole stream in the mid-'90s of these female artists, Sarah McLachlan, Lisa Loeb, Fiona Apple, Liz Phair. They sort of, you know, were sitting in the middle of a Seattle, in the corner of a Seattle coffee shop with an acoustic guitar playing very sincere songs and often very clever songs. And I see this right there. There was a festival called Lilith Fair where a lot of them went and performed. It was a festival called Lilith Fair where a lot of them went and performed.
Starting point is 00:15:05 It was like just female performers. And I can see this performance appearing at the Lilith Fair. It's interesting you say that because this is the one that I feel had a little bit of, like, love and longing in it. Like, it had that kind of feeling like she kind of loves the man in black or he's the man that got away or something. It has this kind of this heartache and this longing to it that i that i quite enjoyed so uh i think i think what i really appreciate is all the performances are able to tap into the wild and dangerous spirit at the heart of my work and i think they're able to, my deepest work. And that's something that I think only a true artist can tap into.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And these four artists have done very well. Yeah. All right. Have you, have you noticed the dark, wild and dangerous spirit at the heart of my work? Oh, I mean, it inspired my lyrics. You are the Elton John to my Tim Rice.
Starting point is 00:16:13 That's right. Don't you mean Bernie Taupin? Tim Rice. Oh, I'm thinking of the Lion King. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Which is Elton John's peak. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Totally. Now we have Debbie. Debbie wrote a long email. I won't read the whole email, Debbie, just for time reasons, but we did read it all and really appreciated it. Yep. Debbie says, ah, Brady, I'm just an old lady, well, older-ish, who loves the podcast.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I don't do chat or comments or Reddit or tweets, so this is very unlike me. To quote my daughter, Brady, what have you done to my mom? However, the chance to tinker with a, shall we say, memorable song has proven irresistible. I haven't been playing guitar much lately, but I did try to be true to Tim's style and fancy licks. Added a variation of the melody to create some verses, only slightly altered your poetic words, and in case you don't recognise them, went into back episodes to find authentic secret words. After numerous takes using voice memos, this, I think, is as good as it will get. If you are
Starting point is 00:17:18 reading this, I figured out how to attach the file and was brave enough to hit send. That's from Debbiebie and take it away debbie the man in black the man in black is back the man in black the man in black and a black hat. He's really rather blue, his friend don't have a clue what he's feeling. The talk of lead and moon and two Parisian spoons left him reeling. It's a Monday night
Starting point is 00:18:05 another lonely night at the pot might It's a Monday night the lonely man looks out at the street light He'd like to go out there but there's danger everywhere in the dark night He'd walk to go out there, but there's danger everywhere in the dark night.
Starting point is 00:18:27 He'd walk on up the road, the KFC, so he's been told it's open late night. Get thee behind me, Colonel. The man in black, the man in black is back. The man in black, the man in black and a black hat He opens up the tin, his supper has come in He'll eat a bite soon But he is so displeased, spinach soup is all he sees And again he has lost his food.
Starting point is 00:19:07 The man in black, the man in black is back. The man in black, the man in black and a black hat. So he's sitting strong, real low, singing all the words he knows if he remembers Cowboy school asparagus and minicorn and apricot and waffles Oh, nailed it The man in black, the man in black is back He's back, Brady. He's back.
Starting point is 00:19:47 The Man in Black. The Man in Black and a black hat. Oh, the little black hat. The Man in Black. The Man in Black is back. New Year's is bucket day. The Man in Black. The Man in Black and the black cat
Starting point is 00:20:08 Well, I don't know if that's Debbie or Stevie Nicks, to be honest. That's straight off a Fleetwood Mac album, isn't it? Don't you reckon? That's right next to Gold Dust Woman or something. It's really quite something. I have to say, when I read all those self-deprecating words and Debbie describing herself as being a bit older and recording it on voice memo, when I hit play, I was expecting the worst. I was expecting something pretty cringy, if I'm honest.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And I was like, bloody hell, this is really good. Yeah. Take it away, Debbie. Yeah. She's belting it out. Loved it. Some good l it away, Debbie. Yeah. She's belting it out. Loved it. Some good lyrical play there as well. But this, I think, in particular,
Starting point is 00:20:50 is one that taps into that wild and dangerous spirit at the heart of my work that I was mentioning earlier. Because I can tell. Are wild and dangerous your secret words today or something? My agents told me to repeat that ad nauseum. He's wild and dangerous. Jim's new image. At least we know what this episode's going to be called.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I think Debbie, well, I mean, this is an honest and a passionate rendering. Yes, I think there's a knowing lived aura to this particular rendition. But Debbie, yeah, no, she has done some good lyrical work there too. Improved a lot, I think, on your work, which is good. Particularly appreciated. There's something I took away from this,
Starting point is 00:21:44 and it applies also to the next song we're going to play and that is both this song and the next one includes the word brady in it in reference to me yeah and i find when i hear my name in both these songs it completely rips me out of the song in a really jarring and uncomfortable way. And I can't decide if it's because that's my name and I recognise it and it's even more my name because it is literally referring to me and that just distracts me. Or is the word Brady just a really bad word to put in a song? Is it just not a very musical word? Because I find the word Brady in a song completely unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:22:24 While you're talking, I've been looking up references to Brady in songs and the only thing that comes up is that there are 16 references to Tom Brady in hip hop songs. So if Tom Brady didn't exist, I think this would be the first occasion that you have founded your way into. There's got to be. Well, there's the Brady Bunch.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Well, the theme song to the Brady Bunch. I didn't want to mention that, but you have. Okay. All right. So last but certainly not least, this is someone who's contributed a few songs to our Sofa Shop canon, very talented songwriter, clearly, under the names of Chippendale and Nick Cave and The Good Seats. You can go back and find those in our Sofa Shop collection.
Starting point is 00:23:17 But he's reformed himself as a new super group, he says, called The Scoopy Bits to create this version of the man in black so take it away the scoopy bits man in black the man in black is back The man in black, the man in black in a black cap It's Monday night, a lonely night at the pot, Mike It's Monday night, a lonely man and I'm street light, baby Pour an iced coffee, it's about to get real. It's been nine months since his last KFC meal.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Lock your kitchen drawers, call Tommy Bull headquarters. The hind horn's back and he's got nothing to lose. Busted out of prison, man who's on a mission. He's creeping out to steal your souvenir spoons The man in black, yeah, he is back Hide your spoons, heies on the attack Watch out for the man in black He did some time For stealing some high-grade lettuces
Starting point is 00:25:25 Now he's out he's chasing his bedhead nemesis Brady better watch out for the cutlery thief He's sneaking up behind you On Halifax Street
Starting point is 00:25:48 Lock your kitchen drawers Call Tommy Ball Headquarters The hind arm's back And he's got nothing to lose Busted out of prison Man who's on a mission. He's creeping out to steal your souvenir spoons. The man in black.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah, he is back. This is black. This is black. This is black. What you're doing? Hide your spoons. He's on the attack Watch out for the man in black Fear and dread going round and round From Adelaide to Trelaugran town
Starting point is 00:26:49 Your time is up and you're going down If you ever hear this dreaded sound One, two, three, four. Well, clearly this is, and the title suggested as well of their name, referencing Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, the great Nick Cave, particularly his early work, which was sort of influenced by real southern sort of music, the swampy sounds of the Mississippi Badlands. But he's... Wild and dangerous. Wild and dangerous times.
Starting point is 00:27:40 That's right. It's very red right hand at the start, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, like a sort of southern novel. But I have to say in the middle he does find a new voice though, doesn't it? I think it kind of takes off suddenly with this soaring kind of voice. Yeah, well, the soaring is the word I wrote down because last episode when you requested where you wanted this taken,
Starting point is 00:28:03 you said you wanted a bit of soaring to happen. And this song does, yeah, it starts moody, but it really does soar in the middle, doesn't it? It does. It's an eagle. And it sounds. A wild and dangerous eagle. Wild and dangerous eagle.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I can't. It sounds so familiar and I can't place a reference for that singing. It's real pop craftsmanship. I really like it. Then the guitar comes in, a real bluesy sort of lick, like an Eric Clapton or even a Mark Knopfler or someone like that. That's really cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I love the way he sings the line, pour an iced coffee, it's about to get real. It's been nine months since his last KFC meal. I love that. I just love the way he sings it. Yeah, it's cool. There's a couple that you're in here a couple of times as well, but this one doesn't mention you, but it says,
Starting point is 00:28:55 he did some time for stealing some high-grade lettuces. Now he's out chasing his bed-haired nemesis. Rhyming lettuces and nemesis is the highlight of the song, without a doubt. That's good. And also trying to sing the word traralgon, which is an even worse word to sing than Brady. That's right.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Brady better watch out for the cutlery thief. He's sneaking up behind you on Halifax Street. I like that one too. That's good. That's good. And this is a proper song. This is like, this has all the elements of a song, doesn't it? It's like, I don't know what they're all called,
Starting point is 00:29:31 but it's like, this is a well-constructed song. It is. It is. This is, and well-recorded too. He's obviously got some folks in. Or they've done it together as the Scoopy Bits. But I tell you, so this one and the first one, I think, I mean, thanks everyone for sending them in really great but this one in the first one put on the radio today like just play them
Starting point is 00:29:52 i think they're fantastic that's great put them on the radio really great great work lots of other people have sent in just lyrics without music which we appreciate and we're having a look at and they're good fun. But of course, not quite so good for a podcast. So everyone who sent in lyrics, thank you very much. I might put some of them in the show notes, a link so people can have a look on the website and whatnot. But, you know, obviously the ones that have actually been recorded and sung are a lot easier for me to share today. So thanks, everyone.
Starting point is 00:30:21 And we're still welcoming more submissions. me to share today so thanks everyone and we're still welcoming more submissions if you if you feel inspired and want to make a man in black with a black cap song you know use our first verse we hope you'll use our first verse that's kind of the jumping off point and from there take it where you like it'd be good to hear some real departures now i know that there's a real bluesy feel to it but i'd be interested in hearing some you know what i mean something that's a bit of a radical departure like a pet shop boys kind of version careful what you wish for tim i believe as we're recording the royal adelaide show is in town one of the things i miss most about my time in adelaide is the annual Royal Adelaide show where all the people from the country come to Adelaide to show off their cows and sheep and plants and farm equipment and whatnot which is the boring part your parents drag you around
Starting point is 00:31:16 and then to the side of that there's the fun fair and the roller coasters and all the rides and most important of all the show bags i'm sure we've talked about show bags before in fact i know we've talked about show bags before which is this huge pavilion at the showground where all the different brands like coca-cola and mars and minties and whatnot will sell these plastic bags full of food and goodies and toys and things. And when you were a kid, you used to go to this hall of hundreds of show bags with your list of three or four that you hope your mum and dad might buy you. Did you go and check out the show bags, Tim? Oh, did I?
Starting point is 00:31:54 I was dragged there. It's always the climax of our show day. Oh, it was always the end. Yeah, yeah. Because you don't want to carry them around all day. So, yeah. Yeah. And it's also, it builds up to the big thing you do before you leave.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Just before the final donuts, it's on the walk back to the car. And it's also a good blackmail thing for your parents. Like, you know, if you don't behave, you're not going to get your show bags. So you're like, all right, I'll do anything for those show bags. How many show bags were bestowed upon your young ones it's always you know you always have that you always have that rich friend whose parents would buy them like 13 show bags yeah like 13 show bags i think the most i was ever allowed was four maybe four wow i was i was how many show well as a kid only one but i do remember getting the rambo show bag and the chips
Starting point is 00:32:44 show bag and stuff. Oh, hang on. Hang on. I want to play Tim's sad, poor music when he talks about how he only got one show. Let me play some. We were in Turalgon, so I think we only had the leftovers from the Melbourne show that made it down there. We were in Turalgon, so I think we only had the leftovers from the Melbourne show that made it down there. We sort of got the stuff left over and put them into other bags and combined them and go,
Starting point is 00:33:12 it's a twisties, hey, hey, it's Saturday combined bag. So how many show bags were your daughters permitted? Well, generally we allow them two, but this year, I'll tell you what, something has happened, because we haven't had the show for a couple of years because of COVID. So they're a bit older now. And let me tell you, they're a bit cooler about the show bag. So they both just wanted one. Right. But like in a minimalist, cool way.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Like, you know, like, oh, that's for the kids. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I was bouncing up and down all excited about them all. But, yeah, no, it was just more like, yep. Yeah, no. But, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:44 One show bag that it would do and and they are leaning more to the one of them certainly leaning more to the caramello koala chocolatey kind of treat show bag rather than the you know barbie you know themed you know how there's always like the toy themed ones and then there's like the lot yeah there are the two schools of show bag they were the toy the toy brand ones that have got things in them, like toys. And they're always cheap tat things. Like Harry Potter and Star Wars, that kind of stuff, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And then you've got your confectionery bad for your teeth food show bag. Yeah, yeah. And that stuff's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. So, one of them went like Caramello Koala Chocolaty, yeah? Yeah, that's right. So one of them went like Caramello Koala Chocolaty, yeah?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, that's right. And the other one, Gwen, it was kind of a combined show bag with me, but she was very keen and very determined, and I didn't know this show bag would be at the show. In fact, I was shocked it would be there, but it's very much on brand for the Unmade podcast, and that is that she got the Seinfeld show bag, which I'm holding up here.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Oh, Tim's holding it up. There we go. Look at this. Oh, wow. Can you believe it? This TV show finished, what, 23 years ago? And now my youngest daughter wants the show bag from it. Does she like Seinfeld?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Does she watch it with you? Oh, yeah, she loves it. She really, really loves it. Yeah. Well, I have to edit some of the episodes but I have to say you know there's there's the crazy Kramer coming in and there's funny moments and as she gets older she likes more and more of it so shall we perhaps have a live unbagging here on the podcast can you show me what's in the show bag I can I can it's really i'm just just opening it up now there's well let's have a bit of foley work there oh nice sound effect oh yeah no so it's all inside a plastic bag inside the bag oh kind of like how babies in the womb are in those you know how babies are in that
Starting point is 00:35:38 plastic that's not plastic but babies are in that bag aren't they until the waters break it's like it's got its own it's got its own waters in there. You could always be forgiven for thinking it's been put together in a factory in China and just shipped out here into a show bag. Because that was always the thing with show bags. Everything was just loosely thrown in the plastic bag, wasn't it? But this is kind of a bit more sterile.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah. Pre-prepared. Whoa. Oh, hang on. It's all falling out. There we go. Oh, your waters are broken. You really are a new dad, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:36:15 You really are. All right. Now that you've popped the bag, what have we got? Here we go. First one is, this is pretty cool. This is a pretzel key ring. I'm going to assign your daughter to take a photo of each of these for us so I can share them with people.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Sort of a metal pretzel. Because of the classic line, these pretzels are making me thirsty, which is what Kramer has on a Woody Allen film. Anyway, so I won't explain the in joke of all of them. There's some playing cards. I'll get of them. There's some playing cards. I'll get this on. Seinfeld playing cards. There's a golf ball, the classic episode.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Probably the most favourite of mine, the marine biologist. And here's a box and there's something in the box. Oh, here we go. This is a coffee cup because of that episode where they drank coffee. Okay. Coffee bug. go this is a coffee cup um because of that episode where they drank coffee okay um coffee bug there is a roll of toilet paper for elaine's spare a square toilet paper there are some seinfeld socks with pretzels on them again leaning heavy into the pretzel thing you know we were going to start the tradition of sending socks to viewers. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Can we send those socks to viewers? Well, yes, maybe we could. That's a good idea. I will have to get the permission of the show bag owner who may be looking forward to wearing them. But, but... Oh, okay. Well, let's not make any promises about the socks then.
Starting point is 00:37:42 There is the ocean uh the calvin klein smells like the beach perfume ocean air freshener to hang in your car what's the bet that doesn't smell anything like the ocean no there is a yada yada yada little uh credit card um pouch thing that sticks to the back of your phone protector. There is a Seinfeld jigsaw puzzle. This is not bad as far as show bags go, I have to say. It really is ticking off all the tats, though, you wouldn't possibly ever really use.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Jigsaws and playing cards. Well, you don't buy show bags to get, you know, practical handyman tools for the house. Like, what do you expect a show bag to have in it? Yeah, that's why I always went for the consumables get you know practical handyman tools for the house like what do you expect a show bag to have in it yeah that's why i always went for the consumables you know the coca-cola and the you know oh yeah this has got a um a lunch bag like a cooler thing to put your lunch in and then there is some uh iron on stickers, iron-on patches for clothes, bags and accessories. And this has a range of things on there, like the No Soup For You Soup Nazi and a whole range of things. Vandelay Industries sticker, which is, and the puffy shirt, of course, and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I did think, Tim, I'm just going to, this isn't like an an official podcast idea But I think it is a cool podcast idea My show bag If you went to the Royal Adelaide show And there was the Tim Hine show bag That fans of Tim Hine could buy What would be in it? That is a very good idea for a podcast The Tim Hine show bag
Starting point is 00:39:24 I mean it would be wild and dangerous obviously I mean, it would be wild and dangerous, obviously. It would be. It would be wild and dangerous to buy at your own risk. I imagine, well, there'd be a few things in there. There'd be the Tim Hine guitar pick, Plectrum. Yes. Yes. There'd be a spoon.
Starting point is 00:39:40 There'd be a Bible. Every good show bag has a Bible. Yes. Yes. Every good showbag has a Bible. Yes. Yes. Very good. Any particular edition of the Bible or, you know, seeing we're going there? Oh, look, I mostly use the New Revised Standard Version, which is the sort of most accurate from the Greek.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But I do also like The Message. People picking up the Bible for the first time, grab The Message by Eugene Peterson. That's an easy to read one. You're not going to chuck in a King James for old time's sake? No, no. Although, no, no. What else would it have in it?
Starting point is 00:40:17 I mean, it's a bit like it might have a cool ring. Like I have these rings of my father that I wear. And so maybe you could have your own tim ring like like a plastic replica yeah yeah that's right what about what about what about tim hein playing cards and jigsaw that's true i do remember you pushing me once to make a a tommy ball tim calendar with glossy photos of me in all sorts of postures and i haven't ruled that out yet so let's uh an iced coffee a farmer's union iced coffee yes yes which i'm which i'm i'm drinking here at the moment uh traditional podcast drink uh very good it would surely have
Starting point is 00:41:01 a piece of chicken or at least a KFC gold card, platinum card or black card they are. KFC black card. You've just put the value of this show back up considerably in my eyes. But, yeah. Maybe there'd be a black cap, would there? Even though I have my blue cap here, Liverpool blue cap, but now it's become immortalised.
Starting point is 00:41:21 That's got to be black, that cap. It's not. That cap's black. No. No, it's dark blue. I don that's got to be black that cap it's not caps black no no it's dark blue i don't really tend to wear black i have black jeans but maybe you'd have some black jeans well what would be in the brady harron show bag the brady harron oh well there'd be there's a huge basically everything on the shelf behind you like you've got all your stuff, your show bag out around your room. You've got. My office is one big show bag.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It really is. Your office has got so much cool mementos, so many cool mementos from your work. There's space stuff there and there's stuff from your other podcast as well. Hello Internet. And then you have all sorts of science paraphernalia. So the periodic table of elements would be in there. I've got lava. Just looking here, I've got some lava from Iceland there on the shelf.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I've got a fossil over there. Fossils? There were genuine fossils in the show bags this year. Get two red rippers and a fossil. That's a great show bag. There'd be some autographed astronaut moon memorabilia. Yeah, that's true. There's a little bit of unmade stuff as well.
Starting point is 00:42:32 So there's the unmade cassette and an unmade spoon. Surely we'd both have a bit of that in there. All right. Anyway, that's not an official idea. But thank you for unbagging the Seinfeld show bag with us. We'll have some pictures in the show notes of the items in there if Tim's daughter agrees to take the photos for us, because that's more photos than I can depend on Tim to take. I'm useless at taking photos with an iPhone of an object and not getting the shadow of the phone on the object.
Starting point is 00:43:01 It doesn't matter what angle I'm on. It's just I can't do it yeah i can't do it we've got to give we've got to arrange some lessons for you okay tim it's time for my idea oh yes i thought this podcast idea was rubbish and it may well be rubbish but it's kind of in my head it suddenly has grown on me and i see great potential in it and i'll explain why shortly this has been on my list for a long time but i was finally prompted to do it by something that happened recently and that was the death of a man named james lovelock james lovelock was an english scientist environmentalist and futurist i have to admit i
Starting point is 00:43:44 didn't know a lot about him. He's quite well known and quite famous in some circles. He died on the 26th of July, 2022 at the ripe old age of 103. Wow. But the thing that was interesting is that he died on his birthday. Wow. My podcast idea is called Died on Their Birthday. And it's a series of episodes, profiles, vignettes
Starting point is 00:44:12 about interesting people around the world and through history. And the one thing they all have in common is they just so happened to die on their birthday. There you go. Well, that is an interesting idea. Certainly that makes for a very nice, neat, clean tombstone, doesn't it? I mean, I just like to see. Just put a little ditto mark under the birth date.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So you might be wondering, Brady, who are famous people or interesting people who have died on their birthday? It's like you're reading my mind. Who are they? Yes. So, if you look up lists on the internet, there's a few standard lists and names that always appear. One name that always appears that probably shouldn't, because it's probably not true, is William Shakespeare. Oh. He is said to have died on his birthday. But they don't really know when Shakespeare was born, only when he was baptised.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And they use that as his birth date. So Shakespeare almost certainly didn't die on his birthday. No. But he is one that's on all the lists. Another one you'll often find is the Swedish Hollywood actress Ingrid Bergman. Oh, yeah. And another one you'll often find is Machine Gun Kelly, who is some criminal I'm not particularly familiar with, but he's always on the list. And there weren't many other famous people on the list.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And I thought, well, this is a bit of a shame because it's not going to be very interesting if there aren't lots of interesting, famous celebrities who died on their birthday. Where's my podcast going to go? And then I found another list and it was over 70 people who are noteworthy in some way who died on their birthday. And it suddenly occurred to me, that's what's good about this idea. It's going to be a way to talk about and introduce people to historical figures who weren't necessarily famous. They're not the same old George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, famous people. They're going to be a little bit more off-piste and people you wouldn't expect.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And our selection criteria just is going to throw up all sorts of interesting people. I've got a list here of the 77, and I'm just going to semi-randomly throw some of them out just to show you that, you know, this could be interesting. Like, there'll be things like, you know, a Romanian communist activist or an Austrian actor and things like that.
Starting point is 00:46:28 But let me look at a few. I've run the highlighter through here. There's a surprising number of Dutch writers who died on their birthday, actually. That could be because the Dutch traditionally have this really incredible birthday cake. Like, they have this Dutch mocha cake. So, they're not very good at food but the dutch often have this you know really creamy coffee cake so maybe it just polishes them off at a certain age you know they give a heart attack hold that thought because that brings that's
Starting point is 00:46:56 something i want to come back to but yeah so actually cory ten boom who's a dutch writer i had oh yeah legend died died, died on their birthday. We've got a magician and a poet here, Andrew Chumbly. Saint John of God, who was a Portuguese friar and a saint. 8th of March, 1495 to 8th of March, 1550. John Harrison, who actually is a famous English clockmaker. People familiar with maritime clocks will know John Harrison, so that would be a good episode.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And Johannes Hevelius, who I knew as an astronomer also. A Hawaiian monarch here that I had not heard of, Lot Kapowai or something, died on the 11th of December, 1872, at the age of 42. Like, I don't know much about Hawaii having a monarchy even, so that would be an interesting podcast episode you just use that as an excuse levi parsons morton who was a vice president of the united states king henry the first of portugal i how did portugal end up with
Starting point is 00:47:57 a king called henry anyway born and died on his birthday in the 1500s. The wife of D.H. Lawrence, Franklin Delano Roosevelt Jr., the son of FDR, born and died on his birthday. Elizabeth of York, a Queen of England. But this is the best one. This is a Scottish-born politician who became a Premier of Tasmania, a state close to your heart, of course, Sir James Milne Wilson.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And the reason he's been born and dying on his birthday is especially amazing, is he was born on the 29th of February, 1812, Leap Day. Oh, yes. And then died on the Leap Day, 29th of February, 1880. So, born and died on a Leap Day. That's great. Awesome. so born and died on a leap day that's great awesome so that moves it being a chance of one in 365 to one in four times 365 doesn't it as the chances of the day this is interesting right
Starting point is 00:48:55 what is the probability of dying on your birthday you quite rightly say one in 365 all things being equal i guess you should be right. But you mentioned that cake, that the rich Dutch cake that maybe could finish you off on your birthday. So here's the question. Are you more likely or less likely to die on your birthday because of other external factors? Like, are you more likely to do something risky on your birthday, like a bungee jump or a parachute jump that could finish you off? Are you less likely to die on your birthday? Because it's usually old people who die. They often get visited on their birthday, so they're not going to be left alone.
Starting point is 00:49:36 So they're less likely to die alone, you know, unattended. Does that help you stay alive on your birthday? There are all these different factors that could mean you're more likely or less likely to die on your birthday what way does it tilt i don't know i think you might be less likely to die on your birthday judging by the lists i've been looking at because there just aren't that many famous people on the lists so i think maybe your birthday is a safe day but i don't know i'd be interested to know what you think and what listeners think. Well, you're right, too.
Starting point is 00:50:06 That's true. I wonder if you're more likely to die the day after your birthday, when you're feeling sad and it's all over and you're suddenly realising you're a year older. You know? Yeah. You had a hard day of drinking the day before, maybe, and lots of cake and, yeah, rich food and, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Died on your birthday is my podcast idea. A series of profiles of people through history who just so happened to die on their birthday. Nothing else links them other than that. What about Jesus, who not only was he born at Christmas, but he died at Easter? How's that for a coincidence? Very nice.
Starting point is 00:50:43 He liked the big holidays, didn't he? Nice idea. That's a good way to get into some... Would you like to die? Would you, if you were given the choice, because I'm afraid to tell you this, Tim, but you will die one day. We all will. Would you rather die on your birthday or not on your birthday? I don't mind.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I don't mind. No? Maybe, maybe yes. Don't mind. I don't mind. No. Maybe, maybe yes. Only because, you know, there's that sense when you, you know, you think of yourself as an old man with the family around and being there with them.
Starting point is 00:51:15 So maybe on your birthday, they're more likely to be there. So maybe that's, you know, they save on flights. You know what I mean? It's one, if they're far away somewhere, then they're more likely to be there. Look, I don't know how you're going to die, Tim. But one thing I do know, you're going to be doing something wild and dangerous. Wild and dangerous. Like writing a song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Tapping into my rebellious spirit. Delivering a sermon. Wild and dangerous. When the girls were young, for a little while, I had them convinced that my nickname as a kid was Dancers with Wolves. In fact, your nickname at school was Dancers like David Silver. That's right. That is a Brady and Tim in joke if ever I've heard one.
Starting point is 00:52:05 That certainly is. Look it up, people. Look it up. David Silver. What reason did you give them for your nickname being Dancers with Wolves? Just that I was like a wild guy. Like, it's just a cool name. Dancers with Wolves.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yeah. Now, I'm absolutely surrounded here with Seinfeld stuff That I haven't packed away because it would make noise and stuff So it's just like spread out in front of me You go ahead and I'll give you a few seconds to pack it up While we prepare for our Storyblocks ad So while Tim packs up his Seinfeld memorabilia there in front of him I want to tell you that today's episode has been brought to you by Storyblocks
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Starting point is 00:53:30 their unlimited all-access, which gives you unlimited downloads. Check them out, people. Storyblocks.com slash unmade. Crucial, crucial tool in my creative toolkit. And this week, I'm going to do something that I enjoy doing, and that is trying to create videos and special creations based on material relating to the Unmade Podcast. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to take Finn's cover of The Man in Black. We're going to play it again for you. It's so good. Why wouldn't you want to listen to it again? But also, if you're watching the video version, I'm going to have a music video, a film clip that I've made for it using entirely Storyblocks material. If you're listening to the podcast, just, you know, on audio, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:17 out on a walk with a dog, I'll also put a link in the notes to this music video on YouTube. So you can go and watch it. You can listen to the song with my Storyblocks made music video, because I think this more than anything demonstrates the utility of Storyblocks, how useful it is, how vast the collection is, how you can create anything. Take it away, Finn, and thank you, Storyblocks. It's Monday night, another hard night at the bar, Mike. It's Monday night, a lonely man in his free time. In his free time. Sinner, sinner, chicken Sinner He's a man, a man in black
Starting point is 00:55:34 He promised us foods But all we've got is booze And he's back The man is back The man in black The man in black Has a KFC snack He gave it to his craving
Starting point is 00:55:56 But the man in black The man in black Is gonna bounce back Is gonna bounce back The man looks up The moonlight It's gonna bounce back, it's gonna bounce back. The man looks up, the moonlight bright on the altar. The roads fall. The road ain't long, but the man in black never follows us. Never bought it at the... Senno, Senno, Chicken dinner
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Starting point is 00:57:23 It's back. That address again, storyblocks.com slash unmade. Check them out. And Tim, I think you're just about finished packing up your Seinfeld show bag. I have, I have. I'm back. There we go. Thank you for that. Thank you, Storyblocks.
Starting point is 00:57:51 All right. Here it is. Spilled on the week. What have you got from the Hein family collection today? I've pulled out this one. It's a little bit different. I've seen it a few times in the collection and looked over it, put it back, but I've pulled it out today. It's quite a simple, austere spoon from the Salvation Army, the very sort of famous church and offshoot charity, the Salvation Army.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And my dad was in the Salvation Army many many many years ago when he first came out well in Holland growing up and then when he first came to Australia and this spoon I think dates from quite a while ago as you can see it's got a pretty simple stem the scoopy bit has the well it has the Salvation Army crest in there. I don't know if that's their current Creston logo or whether it's like one from a while ago. It's sort of etched into the scoopy bit, which is a nice touch. It makes us feel more permanent. It does. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It's plain on the back. But up the top of the stem, it's got three letters, C, B and F written on top. You know how sometimes football logos have three letters sort of on top of one another, like the name of the university or something like that? Or like the Carlton Football Club, like people have. People in Australia would know the Carlton Football Club. It's a lovely handle in that the letters are kind of sculpted, aren't they, into each other. It's not like just like a piece of enamel at the top with a picture on it. It's like if you have a look at the picture in the show notes, the letters are actually like three-dimensional over each other and stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:36 It's really nice. It is nice. You can see through it. It's, yeah, really quite beautiful. um quite beautiful the thing that was perplexing though is the letters are c b f which the salvation army uh doesn't spell and so i was wondering what this was what's cbf and i went googling all over the place to try and find it and then couldn't find anything so in desperation asked mum who actually owned the spoon and that was that was a stroke of genius because while she didn't know she actually got on to one of her Salvation Army friends who got back
Starting point is 01:00:12 and said they think it stands for Christ blood and fire which sounds pretty full-on but Christ is Jesus Christ who's you know the church is about. And blood and fire is the motto of the Salvation Army. So, and if you look inside. Which is also etched into the scoopy bit. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. So I should have noticed that. So blood being the blood of Jesus Christ and who died to, you know, take away the sin of the world and fire, the fire of the Holy Spirit.
Starting point is 01:00:44 So it's like a spiritual reference. So CBF. It makes it look like it's a beer, which is ironic, seeing the Salvation Army people don't tend to not drink alcohol or a football logo. But it does, it feels of its time a while ago, mid-century and a nice, austere, simple spoon. Lovely spoon.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And it makes me realise if we made a Tim Hine commemorative spoon, at the top we could have W-A-D. W-A-D? Hmm. Wild and dangerous. Wild. Mad, bad and dangerous to know. That was him.
Starting point is 01:01:28 That's me. Yes. Very lovely spoon. Thank you, Salvation Army. I always remember my abiding memory of the Salvation Army is really inappropriate, actually, now I think about it, because it's associated with going to the pub after work on Friday nights. Right. And every Friday night we would go and have drinks. And once we got to a stage where we'd had enough drinks
Starting point is 01:01:51 that we were a little bit looser with our money, that's always just when the person from the Salvation Army would turn up with their money collection and they would sell you copies of the War Cry, which is like the Salvation Army newspaper or newsletter. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and they would come around to us, all us journalists who had four or five beers and were willing to be really friendly
Starting point is 01:02:15 and say, would you like to buy a war cry? And we'd all buy a copy of the war cry and pat them on the back and that. And then we always had a game where we would put a little bit of money on the bar, everyone, and everyone had to guess how many photos there would be in the war cry of people wearing glasses. Because so many people in the Salvation Army are a bit older and wear glasses. So there's always pictures of people wearing glasses in the war cry. So everyone would go, I guess it's three, I guess it's eight and that. And then we'd all have our bet.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And then we'd thumb through the war cry and count how many people there were wearing glasses. But sometimes you would take a bet and you'd go a really high number, like 30, because there was always a chance there would be a group photo of some Salvation Army group that had gone off on a mission somewhere and there'd be like 50 people in the photo and half of them were wearing glasses and that would really rack your numbers up. That's an awesome game. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:03:09 They're very famous for sort of tambourines and pea soup because they do so much work with the homeless and stuff like that. Yeah. One of the biggest charities in Australia. But, yeah, that's great. Oh, I love it. Huge. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Huge, huge, very huge charitable organisation. So worthy of a souvenir spoon, of which there are several. There will be more over coming months, I think, because in the collection. But this one was the, I think, the most elegant. And speaking of charities and giving things away, it's that time of the show. It's that time of the show where we give away prizes
Starting point is 01:03:42 to Patreon supporters. Tim's cracking out the guitar, I notice, because I think maybe we're going to have a bit of a musical interlude here while we announce the winners. Tim, you're all tuned up and ready to go? Pretty much. All right. Let's start with our unmade podcast souvenir spoon.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Forged and struck here in the UK, an unmade podcast souvenir spoon is going to Tristan from Portland. Keep reading, man. I'm playing in the background. I thought you were going to go like, you know, Tristan. Oh, I can't concentrate on two things at once, man. I'm playing in the background. I thought you were going to go like, you know, Tristan. Oh, I can't concentrate on two things at once, man. I'll try. All right, then.
Starting point is 01:04:30 All right, I'll try. All right, let's go. Let's go again. Tristan from Portland. Tristan. See, now I've lost it, see? I've just... Thanks a lot, Tristan.
Starting point is 01:04:42 All right. Thanks a lot Tristan Alright A sofa shop mixtape Is going to Jared L From Vancouver in Canada L for love Alright And
Starting point is 01:04:58 Unmade podcast souvenir spoon Collector cards a handful are going to Kevin C from Utah. Kevin. It's not a name that appears in a lot of songs either, does it? No. Christopher R from Alabama. Christopher R.
Starting point is 01:05:19 George L from Florida. What's that Roxette song? The Big L. The Big Loveette song? The Big L. The Big Love. The Big Love. Something, something, small world. Yeah. Very good.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Here's a good one. We've also got cards going to Remo from New York State. Do you remember the movie Remo? No. Loved that movie. Loved it. Fred Ward. And last but not least, and stopping an American clean sweep of the cards,
Starting point is 01:05:52 we have Hugo from Hong Kong. And if you can't write a song about Hugo from Hong Kong, then you're not a true songwriter. Hugo. Hugo. Hugo. Guys don't like that for a while Right
Starting point is 01:06:08 And then it goes Hong Kong Hong Kong Hugo Hugo Hugo Hong Kong That one needs a bit of work
Starting point is 01:06:24 Go to patreon.com Hong Kong. That one needs a bit of work. Go to patreon.com slash unmade FM to become a Patreon supporter and possibly have your name desecrated by Tim on the podcast as well. Hugo. Hugo. Hugo. Hong Kong. Hugo. Hong Kong.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Kevin got off lightly after all that. There's always the great one with the Eric Clapton. Cause I know he don't belong here with Kevin. You know, tears in heaven. Very good. Now it's time for moon otherwise known as the toilet break here in the unmade podcast anyone needs to head off now where we perfectly understand go ahead brady i want to do more fictional moons like Endor.
Starting point is 01:07:25 So if anyone's got any fictional moons they want to suggest, let me know. I asked my wife and she gave me a fictional moon from her childhood. And I've become very familiar with this moon because of her over the years. This moon is called Button Moon. Button Moon was a 1980s television show for children here in England. And basically it was puppets. It was a 10-minute show. There were puppets.
Starting point is 01:07:52 There was this character called Mr. Spoon and his family. And all the puppets were made of, like, kitchen utensils. Everything was made of stuff from the kitchen. Button, you're back to where you were. There's Button Moon, shining very brightly in Blanket Sky. It shines down on the Spoon family's garden. Hello, Tina Teaspoon. Hello, Mr Spoon.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And every episode they would get into a rocket made of a baked beans can. Right. And fly into the sky, which was a black blanket. It was called Blanket Sky. And up in the sky was this big yellow button, like a button from your jumper or your sweatshirt. It was a big yellow button with four holes in it. You know how buttons have four holes in it to stitch them. And they would fly in the rocket up to this moon and have a little adventure on the moon. Sometimes they would look through a telescope
Starting point is 01:08:39 back down to their home planet, which was called Junk Planet, I think. But the show was called Button Moon, kids' TV show, and the thing that I think was most memorable about it, and anyone who's English knows instantly, is the theme song. I think at the start of the show they say, We're off to Button Moon. And at the end, it's always, we've been to Button Moon. It changes to past tense. And it's just one of those songs that is etched into the brains of English children.
Starting point is 01:09:31 And my wife has been singing it since I met her. And after years, I finally went onto YouTube and now I sing it all the time. We always sing Button Moon in our house. And here is your interesting fact about the song. It's a real earworm. I apologise to people who are going to have it stuck in their head now it was co-written by a guy called peter davidson who played the fifth doctor in doctor who all right so button moon was written by doctor who
Starting point is 01:09:58 which was my new fact i found out last night peter davidson yeah so he was in a few things wasn't he actually well he was in all creatures great and small which i bet you loved because it's that kind of mushroom show that you'd like love that yeah absolutely yeah that's a great show the old version of um all creatures great and small yeah button moon i've never heard of it it's amazing a lot of these english things made their way to australia back in the early 80s because Australia didn't have a budget to make its own stuff. But I've never heard this one. No, I didn't know it, but it's become a big part of my life now because it's such a part of her life.
Starting point is 01:10:35 We've been to button moon. And my wife always gets mad now when I sing it at her because she knows it's going to be stuck in her head for the next three days. It's her sofa shop. Right. Nice. Yeah. And what can you, do you want to tell us any more about this moon?
Starting point is 01:10:48 Well, I don't know. I don't know many statistics about button moon as it's just a yellow button sewed to a black cloth. I don't know it's orbital period or mass or who discovered it. There you go. But get in touch. UnmadeFM at gmail.com or on the Twitter or on the Reddit and all the usual places. Give me some fictional moons that I can throw at Tim because I think his tolerance for real moons is limited and I can only use them occasionally. I can't think of any other fictional moons.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Okay. Well, you see. Although you could be making, or they all could be fictional. You could just be making the other ones up. all could be fictional. You could just be making the other ones up. You say they're real and you send me a blurry photo of a dot and then you rabid on about, you know, Greek mythology and their name.
Starting point is 01:11:31 And I, yeah, so I wouldn't know the difference. Who knows? Button Moon looks one of the more legitimate ones you've brought, actually. I Google it and it's there. So that's it. Go and watch an episode. They're quite cute.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I will. I will. So, Tim, I think we've got time for an idea from you. You got a quickie? I do. I've just got a quick one, which is in some ways quite obvious, but I do actually think it's pretty cool and it and it came from an idea um a real occurrence that happened this week this idea is called i've been sent an old photo so hang on hang on. Let me guess what it's about. Well, if I can find the Bloomin' thing. There we go.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I've been sent an old photo. This one was sent by a friend of mine. He's a bit like a brother, really, called Duncan. And it's from sometime in the 90s. And it's coming through to you right now, man. This is a photo of me playing cricket and although you'll you'll allege that it vaguely resembles me playing cricket it's playing one of my great forward strokes which is either a block or a forward drive or a lightsaber attack uh. I'm looking at it now.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Do you know what? So this is like, this picture is so Australian it hurts. Because it's playing cricket in a driveway using a big black wheelie bin as the stumps. In cricket you stand in front of these three sticks called the wicket and the stumps. But when you're a kid and you haven't got stumps or you're playing on a concrete driveway so you can't drive them into the soil you just use the your bin so playing cricket with a bin as the stumps is so iconic and like there's a brick wall behind with like a boiler on attached to the wall the back of the house retro cool car whose car is that that red sporty car that's a cool looking car i don't know i don't know what house we're at i assume we're at duncan's house it's not my house and but i don't know whose car
Starting point is 01:13:51 that would be maybe he's one of his brothers or something it's very australian it's like sunny you know sunny day and bright shadows it's like as far as tim's shot goes it's a good photograph you've got your eyes on the ball and your head's above the ball. So that's rare in itself, isn't it? Yeah. Your technique, there's a bit of a large gap between your bat and your leg, which is a bit dangerous for the ball to go through. So I would critique that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:15 And your top arm should be more bent over the ball. Elbow forward a bit more. So I'm going to give that shot. I'm going to give that a six and a half out of ten. But it looks like you've hit the ball low on the bat there. So it looks like you've kept the ball away from your stumps. So you've done the job. There is a little, yeah, you can just see the ball.
Starting point is 01:14:33 It looks red, actually. Normally we would play with a tennis ball in the backyard, but that does seem to be, it's a very vague red dot. Resembles many of your moon photos that you send, except it's red instead of white it's a sort of a blurry dot next to something yeah the thing that i do like about this photo as well is look at the shadow the shadow actually makes out a really interesting object that could be like my sporting logo if i ever went into sporting merch like the michael jordan jump man
Starting point is 01:15:01 yeah yeah yeah it just looks like a ballet dancer falling over, really, or something like that. We'll see if we can get that. I'll get my T-shirt people onto that, man, and see what we can do for you. So there we go. It's a very sloppy pair of jeans, I must say. We forget in the 90s how sort of baggy our jeans were compared to the tighter style now. So your podcast is basically just dredging up an old photo and talking about it like this. Just my photos, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Basically our life. Basically our life. That's right. Looking at old photos from the 90s and reminiscing about our childhood. That's right. That's right. Basically the Unmade Podcast. You've just reinvented the unmade podcast well the reason i like this one is it was unexpected i like the idea that it was sent to you so it's not something you've chosen yourself it's something
Starting point is 01:15:54 that someone sent to you and gone hey look at this and you go oh my goodness which is what i'm always doing with you and um but it's i think you like it because you look so thin. That is nice, isn't it? Look at it. Look at that. Good at that. Because I was eating so much KFC at that time. And at that time, that age of your life, it just disappears. I don't know where it goes.
Starting point is 01:16:18 It revisits you in your 30s. But in those early 20s. It's just gone. Classic cricket shot there. I like that idea. I love the idea of digging up old photos and just talking about them. The disadvantage is, as a podcast, you're pretty reliant on your listeners to take the time to look at the picture you want them to be looking at. Yeah, they've got to glance down and hit the show notes, don't they?
Starting point is 01:16:39 But that's not that much effort, just to have a quick look at the show notes and look at a picture and then hear you talk about it for the next half hour especially when it's a beautiful cricket shot like this i mean that's look at the way i'm dragging my foot that's just all class isn't it you got your foot you got your foot there behind the crease no chance you're going to be stumped uh that's pretty good that's a that's a yeah like i said six and a half a few technical deficiencies but i'll let it go it's's a good photo, by the way. I do think, and of course back then no cameras, so this is like a camera photo.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I have reached the step. No phones, you mean? There were cameras. What did I say? No phones. That's right, back then there were no cameras. No cameras. This was a painting.
Starting point is 01:17:19 This was done by a sketch artist. It was done by someone with one of those box brownies. No, it was a guy under a cloth with one of those things that has an exploding flash. Freeze, boom. That's right. That's just a backdrop of me. I'm at a fair somewhere with holding a prop in front of the backdrop
Starting point is 01:17:41 of an Australian. You get to stand still for 20 minutes. Well, like on the Flintstones where they had a bird chisel out the picture onto a stone. It's a memento. I like that. That was cool. I've reached the age now where I'm shown a photo like that
Starting point is 01:17:57 and I don't remember it. I just don't remember it. Normally it takes you straight back, but I've got no memory of that. You'd remember someone owning that car, though. Yeah. You'd remember if your friend of yours had a red sporty car like that. Yeah. That was an age before sporty cars.
Starting point is 01:18:13 We were still in our first couple of cars. But that must be a friend or relative or someone. I don't know. If anyone knows, including my friend Duncan, who will be listening, please contact me and let me know. Tim, do you have any secret words you needed to embed in the show today? I forgot. Forgot to embed them or forgot to ask for them?
Starting point is 01:18:36 I'm just saying the word forgot. That's all I'm saying. Read into that what you like. Look at that. Look at that. That's meta, isn't it? Meta. Layers upon layers.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Enigmas wrapped in mystery. I'm a wild and dangerous man. Even when it comes to secret words.

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