The Unmade Podcast - 121: Other People's Shopping Lists

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

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This is our first recording of 2023, for those of you listening in the distant future. It is too, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Episode 121. And Tim, the question on everyone's lips will be, did Tim break the KFC fast, as promised, New Year's Day or soon after Did you break the fast? I did, I did

On New Year's Day For dinner that evening Yes A long wait, a whole year And it was Well, do you want me to tell you now? No, no, because people Tim has made recordings.

There are photos and recordings of the breaking of the fast, and we're going to do that in the latter part of the show. You can listen to the moment that the herbs and spices finally pass Tim's lips once more. Will he lick his fingers is the question everyone is asking. We'll find out later on. Well, you will remember when I attempted to make some at home that while I thought it was reasonably successful,

I didn't particularly enjoy it. And there, of course, has been a... What part of later in the show did you not understand, Tim? No, I'm just giving... I'm just building it up too much. We're going to spend 20 minutes building it up now and then we're going to do another 20 minutes later. We will talk all things KFC later in the show.

Oh, dear. A traditional thing that happens at the end of the year, and it happened at the end of 2022, is you start seeing all these videos and articles and webpages about people who died during the year. And 2022 was a big one. There were lots of big name deaths, I thought, more than usual that I recognised and that were of some significance to me. We've already talked about some of them on previous episodes of the Unmade podcast. And I'm guessing, Tim,

this is going to be a thing that happens more and more now. As we get older, the people we grew up with as our celebrities and heroes are starting to die so we're going to get more and more of people dying that we go oh wow i remember them and less of the who the heck was that i don't remember that 1950s band that had one number one hit in sweden yeah and and we also had a few last minute deaths. After all those videos and articles had been prepared, we had sneaky people like Pope Benedict getting right in at the end of the year. So all those videos and articles had to be redone. Barbara Walters was another one. The TV anchor died right at the end of the year. So it was a year jam packed with notable passings.

Well, I have to say, when you said that, I quickly thought, has there been a lot? And I Googled and suddenly the Queen came up and I went, oh, yeah, that's right. Fair enough, yes. The Queen. The Queen was a big one. Shane Warne, of course, the Australian.

That's right. Yeah, that's true. Pelé, probably the most famous soccer player, footballer ever. Even I've heard of him. And then I awoke this morning to a message from Tim to have one of the first notable deaths of 2023, a legend from our childhood that we have mentioned on the podcast before. Yes.

People outside Australia might not know who this guy is, but we certainly do. Well. Kerry Young. I didn't know his surname when you said no no saying carrie young i was like who the heck is carrie young i just know him as carrie like most people and he was one of the great quiz show players of our time he featured in this show called sale of the century where you answer general knowledge questions and carrie knew everything and he knew it quick.

In which large country is the city of Minsk? Kerry. Soviet Union. Right. What nationality is explorer Sir Edmund Kerry? New Zealand. Correct. And he won everything,

and then he'd come back for the Champion of Champions edition, and he'd win that. And then he'd come back for the Champion of Champion of Champion of Champions edition, and he'd win that. He was an absolute machine on sale of the century and we are sad to mark his passing at the age of 83 which acid is also called vitriol carry correct which one yes it was sad when i saw it just to look at him

instantly even in his later years as you look at the eyes and go, well, there he is. I spent a long time watching this person on television. Because, of course, this goes back to an era when, I think probably the last decade, when quiz shows really captured the public imagination. Because I remember my parents talking to my neighbours about him. The fact that we knew him and it was discussed at school and he was a familiar face. He's going for the cars tonight.

He's going for the cars. That's right. He's going for the cars. Tuesday night, Kerry's going for the cars. I know. I know. And in the start of the century, you had your general knowledge questions. You had fast money where the questions were asked really, really quickly

and he was really good at that. But you also had your pick of the board question where they asked a uh sort of a who am i yeah who am i and they would read a they would read a biography of someone you know i was born in 1976 at glenel community hospital uh i went to this school and gradually you'd have more and more information released about this person until it was oh of course now i know who it is when some obvious piece of information was given away. But Carey was legendary at the Who Am I's because nine times out of ten, he would just get it from the birth year. They would say, Who am I?

That's right, yes. I was born in 1830. Mark Twain. Incredible. Yeah. Legend. I like that he kept the beard his whole life as well Yeah

You know, this signature sort of beard And he was a nice guy too He was a very nice kind of person I don't remember him being nice I remember him being a bit more business life I always thought he was a bit more brusque than some of the others And he had that kind of hunched posture That sort of sideways hunched posture over the big red buzzer

that he used to press. That's right. He did too, didn't he? Yeah. He had his own style. He had an unusual stance. Reading today in the newspaper of his passing, I was surprised to learn, a little bit disappointed, I think,

that he used to train for Sale of the Century. So he would actually practice and he'd do lots of research and read up on encyclopedias and then sit there at home now i kind of feel like that goes against the spirit of sale of the century because the rest of us are just wandering in from our day we plonk ourselves down and we're tested under those conditions but you can't be rehearsing and staying but it's like you're watching the super Bowl. You don't want the players playing the Super Bowl to have not practised. You want to see specimens at their prime. But also, how do you research for a sale of the century when the subject is everything in the universe?

Like, how do you revise every piece of knowledge that can exist? Well, I think he did focus quite a lot on people. The article talked about him memorizing names of people and what they've done so it was notable people rather than you know which rock formation etc etc but um you are right there's a sense by which it has to be accessible enough to be interesting for ordinary people sitting around having their dinners in front of the tv at home because if you don't feel like you're going to get any of them you're not going to watch are you so no no easy quiz shows are the best because you can just sit there and boastfully answer questions

feel like a legend there do you ever do that with your daughters like sit there and answer questions and they look at you in awe thinking oh my god dad knows so much yeah they they the the days of looking at me and or uh have passed and right days of looking at me either in horror or or sympathy uh very much become the common the common um experience but i do i can't help feeling the feeling of smugness when a show comes on like that. Particularly in Australia, we have a few music quiz shows like that. And that's just the one sliver of pop culture information that I seem to dominate at. Right. All right.

Well, rest in peace, Kerry. Yes, he gave us a lot of joy. Stay with us. It's not many people you can watch as a contestant on a quiz show as a kid And remember him 30 years later You know, there was another one I think I mentioned it There was another one who was really good on the sale of the century called Virginia

And Virginia's son got in touch with us once And was listening to the podcast And says, oh, this is my mum She was a really famous one too. I think I've mentioned that before. So if your parent was a winner on Sale of the Century, especially if they ever won the lot, we'd love to hear from you. I'd love to meet Tony Barber.

Is Tony Barber himself still alive, the original host? Surely. I think he is. Oh, looks like he is. I think he is. Yeah, no, there he is. Oh, looks like he is. I think he is. Yeah, no, there he is. Yeah, no, he's still alive. I think of all the deaths in 2022 that hit me hardest.

And there were a lot of big names. Angela Lansbury was a huge loss. I remember you noting that. Yeah. Because your family used to watch Murder, She Wrote quite a bit. I knew of her, but I never't. I never watched an episode. Oh, Angela Lansbury. Jessica Fletcher.

Legend. She's one of those people I feel in the zeitgeist is always old. Like she was born old. Yeah. She's only been famous as an old person. And she's been like the ladies on the Golden Girls. They were always old. And it's like, oh, ladies on The Golden Girls, they were always old. And it's like, oh, we'll get those actors because they've been old with, you know, grey hair since they were young even.

But people in the olden days were old though, weren't they? There was recently some research done into that as to why people in the olden days look older than now. Like there's some reason for it. There was a whole big thing about it about two or three weeks ago. Why do people in the olden days, even when they're young, look old? There was some good reason, which completely escapes me at this point. Now, ideas for a podcast? Should we do our usual thing? Yes, yes, indeed.

I forgot that's on the list of things we do. Yes. It's still somewhat a part of the show. I wonder if there's an idea for a podcast in tracking down people who were sort of famous from your childhood but have disappeared. Like Tony Barber just now. I would love to interview Tony Barber. What are you talking about, man?

I reckon I spend three hours every day Googling people that fit that category. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm forever checking their data. I reckon I spend three hours every day Googling people that fit that category. Really? Yeah. I'm forever checking their data. Whatever happened to Bruce Samerson? Things like that. Oh, yeah, Bruce Samerson.

What's he doing now? Or more importantly, Melissa Trotz. That's more important. Yeah, I spend hours Googling. And cricketers, what did cricketers do after their career? You know, where are they now and stuff like that? I am forever Googling people from my childhood. The problem with that as an idea for a podcast is it's very specific to me.

Like, I don't think most of the people listening right now know who Bruce Samuelsson is, yet alone care. And I think me saying there was this guy who was an actor in soap operas and then he was a flash in the pan and it disappeared. And now I'm going to find out where he is now. People don't care where he is now because they don't know who he is in the first place. But I think that's close enough. Like that could be two things.

Firstly, it could be more universal. So Angela Lansbury, let's say if we had this idea a year ago, is known by slightly larger people than just you and your family. But there's a whole lot of people. You could make them the people from your life. So the fact that people don't know who Bruce Samuelsson is makes him an interesting interview. It's like, oh, Brady wants to interview this person. And you actually learn about a whole other person.

In other words, he has the interest point because you've chosen to have him on there. Same with Kerry. Imagine if you'd had Kerry on there and people would be like, who is this guy? And you're like, well, you were my, you know, the sort of champion of champions of Quizmasters in my mind when I was young. And people would find that interesting. Yeah. Who's the most obscure person that you could think of? I very often look up cricketers who only played like one or two matches for Australia and find out, you know, what did they do next,

things like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a guy called Michael Tunn. Do you remember Michael Tunn? Oh, yeah. He was that young kid that hosted a music show on the ABC, Tunny. Yeah, yeah. He did.

He went on to Triple J. He hung around for ages as a radio presenter. Well, that's right. He was doing that afternoon show on the ABC when we were young and then he went on to Triple J. He's only like two years older than us. He was the first person I saw wear a hyper-colour T-shirt on TV. You never forget your first.

He was no doubt also wearing happy pants that day as well but um yeah i'd like to have a chat with michael tun i'd like to have a i'd find out what's going on with him not for broadcast not for broadcast but oh wow um Oh, well. Anyway, all right. Let's get down to business. Let me give you my idea for a podcast today. All right.

Bring us back onto the mainstream. Safer ground here. I do the grocery shopping in our house most of the time. Right. I quite enjoy it. I quite enjoy going to the shops with the trolley and just going up and down the aisles. I find it quite relaxing and peaceful. And I don't make a shopping list, by the way.

I kind of know what to get. I have these things I get all the time. And then I do a few freestyle on a whim purchases as well. But anyway, I went the other day and I got my trolley. And as I pulled my trolley out someone else had left their handwritten shopping list in the trolley from when they had done the shop before yeah and i just looked at this person's shopping list you know this big long piece of paper with all this stuff written and that gave me my idea for a podcast which is called other people's

shopping lists and basically i don't know exactly where i want to take it there are two ways you could take it one would be you just get someone on the podcast with their shopping list and discuss it with them. Oh, why do you buy that? Why do you get that? Another idea, if you wanted to be more extreme, would be you have to shop the other person's shopping list and live off it for a week. Yeah, yeah. That's what came to my mind. But that feels a bit more like a TV show. That's a bit more TV showy. I like the idea of just getting someone in with their weekly shopping list. Today, we've got Tim Hine from Adelaide, South Australia. Here's Tim's shopping list.

Talk us through it. And you're like, you know, well, I always get a lot of bananas because I like them at work. We always get this drink because it's my daughter's favourite. We always get this. It was a childhood meal I liked. I think it would be interesting to hear what other people buy in their weekly shop and why. See if there's any interesting stories to fall out of it. Some of it's just going to be boring. We get milk because that's what we put

in our cereal. But other things could be, you know, I always get this brand of this because I've got this funny story. And I think there could be fertile ground here. I think you're right. I think the everyday items themselves are little doorways into backstories and reasons. Yeah. Yeah, why do you get that particular brand or why do you get ProMite but not Vegemite and, you know, these sorts of slight variations

and what appears every week but, you know, what's a rarity or what things are the sort of as a special. Like, you know, when you talk about like getting something extra, it's a bit like, oh, I shouldn't really get that, but I'm going to this week because it's a bit of a bonus purchase, you know, a reward, that sort of thing. Are there any things on the Heinz shopping list that would catch my eye? Before I get into that, can I just say one of the,

this is a time to verbalise one of my frustrations with the shopping list in the Hein household, because we have an ongoing list sitting on the counter at a particular area of the counter. And it's like, if you want something, you don't call out, hey, next time you're shopping, the rule is you have to go down and write it down, which is fair enough. So it's, it sort of gets built on throughout the week, and then my wife does the shopping for food in our house. The frustration is that it's not a long piece of paper. It's about the size of a Post-it note.

So it's a pad, and it's a square pad. It's slightly larger than a Post-it note, but then there's only room for about five things to be written on there and so then that one gets ripped off and put next to it and then things are written and then the next one's so by the end of the week there's like four or five pieces of paper floating around this end or this general area of the kitchen and it and i if i was in charge of the shopping it would drive me crazy because i'm like they don't stick there's nothing sticky so it's not like it's a nice post-it note kind of

list or anything like that they're just floating around and then they're grabbed why don't you buy one of those notepads that is like shopping lists and you rip one off each week look look there's a hundred there's a there's a hundred more rational ways to go about it, but I'm not bringing it up with my wife. I'm not that courageous. There must be a reason. And the reason probably is that this pad is there. And I think the rationale probably is that it doesn't take a lot of room. But, of course, whereas an A4 pad, a big notepad, would take more room.

But by the end of the week, they're covering a similar kind of area on the benchtop because they're all sort of spread out. And they get blown when you put down a cookbook. Boom. Then they fly off. And it's a very unreliable, haphazard sort of system. And yet I dare not speak into it, I tell you. I just, I don't think your wife's got a clue.

I don't think she knows. I don't know. You mustn't mention this to her. I totally am. You've just spoken about it on the podcast to dozens of listeners. She doesn't listen to this. Quick impromptu advertisement. Unmade podcast branded shopping lists are now available take a look in the notes for this episode for the link and as a bonus if you want i'll add a few of

my personal favorite items to your first list anyway anyway that's going a bit meta that's as to the how the list is actually put together but it does mean she goes off to the shops with four or five of those little pieces and maybe as they're i don't know crossed off or something they're thrown in the air over a shoulder or something i don't know is having something written on the list a guarantee of purchase yes yes right which is very handy there's no jury or you know panel of people to get through why do you want that when does that need that at the age of 46 i've managed to exert enough authority to buy something your wife sent me a picture of you consuming something the other day that inspired me and i have since purchased it and it has become my new addiction what's that and? And I had them shipped from Australia. Even though you can get them everywhere,

I went for the specific Australian version, and that is Zoopa Doopas. Yes. I'm so into Zoopa Doopas at the moment. Oh, they're so addictive. Probably because they're pure sugar. You want to tell people what a Zoopa Doopa is? Well, a Zoopa Doopa is, we call them like an icy pole,

but I know they're called an ice lolly, is that right? An ice lolly? They're basically a plastic, sealed plastic tube at both ends filled with coloured lolly water, sweet, cordially lolly water. Yes. Frozen. And then you just snip an end off and half suck, half chew the ice. I'm more a chewer and biter of the Zoopa Doopa.

I am too. I've become more aggressive in my more recent years. Because if you suck it, all you do is you suck the flavour out and then you're left with that kind of just white iceberg of no flavour that no one wants to eat. That's right. That's right. It's just snow then, yes.

Yeah. But I'm loving the Super Duper. Great flavours. Yeah. So I had them specially shipped in from this Australian shop that imports Australian childhood confectioneries and things. Oh, that's cool. They do take, I mean, there is a bit of a time spent that's quite

torturous between arriving home with them, putting them in the freezer and then waiting 24 hours for them to be cold enough to have one. Yeah. And when I was a kid, I couldn't wait and I'd pull one out and just like drink down the corneal before it's frozen, which is the ultimate sign of a lack of patience. There's also, this is not quite such a big window,

but it's another small window of frustration. And it's the window between when you snip the end off and it's become unfrozen enough for you to be able to slide it out of the plastic. So for the first few seconds, you can't get at it. You can't get to it. You're pushing at it with your fingers. And you're biting the plastic and pulling at it and desperately trying to get at it And you're biting the plastic And pulling at it Desperately trying to get at it

I have to say Our freezer The unmistakable sound of our freezer door being opened Can be heard from anywhere in the house And yeah We need to buy another more quiet freezer With a more quiet freezer door hinge Because

So you can get your zooper Doopas without being caught. That's right, yeah. And those plastic Zoopa... After they're finished, it's a piece of plastic, a terrible... environmentally, to be honest, but they'll be sitting, you know, around the edges of the couch, you know, like evidence of a crime and you've got to make sure that you clean those up

and get them away, but they're clear so also you can miss them and get them away. But they're clear, so there's also you can miss them and get busted later by the kids. So what is typically on the high-end shopping list that might surprise me? Look, we eat pretty healthily, and obviously for the last year it's urged towards the vegetable and the vegetarian, lots of fish. But that's nothing particularly surprising. What sandwich spreads do you like? We eat a lot of fish. But that's nothing particularly surprising.

What sandwich spreads do you like? We eat a lot of cheese. So we buy a lot of cheese. And I have a lot of cheese toasty toasties as sort of a lunch, you know, that I'll throw in a cheese sandwich, which I'll toast up at work. Tuna. I eat a lot of tuna. So I'll take them to work and eat them as well.

What's the sweetest thing on the list? Look, there's always a few different ice cream flavours. We are much more luxurious in our ice cream flavours than my parents were when I was a kid. And there's also quite a large tub regularly of Nutella. Yes. Nutella is overseas. That's known in other places. Nutella's from overseas, man. Right, okay. But I don't know from where it comes.

I can't stand it myself. The nutty hazelnut does nothing for me. But a couple of members of the family are addicted to it. I never associate the taste of Nutella with nuts. I always just think it's quite chocolatey. I know it is. I mean, its origins was when there was no, they couldn't make chocolate stuff. They started making this stuff out of hazelnuts that it was chocolate-like. But I always think it's chocolatey to me. We have a lot of, we go through a lot of peanut butter because we use the peanut butter as a means

of getting medication into our dog and our dog has to take brooklyn has to take medication every day at the moment a tablet so in the morning he gets a big you know big fingered goop full of peanut peanut butter is the medication for some medical thing or because he's just a bit crazy he's a bit crazy. Just to calm him down a little bit. Valium. He's been a bit – it's not valium, but it's been a bit anxious. So he's had to take something for that. So, yeah, that's a meat. We smuggle that down into his mouth with the peanut paste, and he spends about 15 minutes licking his lips after that.

He really likes that. But it means we go through a hell of a lot of peanut butter. Yeah. The two fingers into the peanut butter jar are a pretty regular occurrence on other occasions, other times of the day as well, I have to say. Yeah. What about you? What are some – what things are you tempted by?

You know, when you're going along and you are freestyling, which is an amazing way to go shopping. Very undisciplined. No, because I just go up and down the aisles and I know all the stuff to get. And then sometimes there'll be two or three things I'm specifically told to get. But normally I can be trusted. I don't know. It's nothing.

Lots of vegetables for my wife. I have to get all these vegetables that I will never eat. And they're the first couple of aisles. I'm just going through mentally in my head. Start with the blueberries and the raspberries, the bananas and the apples, the avocados, and then down past the salads. I always have to get her a cucumber. Then I might get myself a jar of anchovies for my pizzas during the week because I like

chucking a few anchovies on. So I usually get myself a little jar of anchovies. I always get myself one tin of a seafood-y soup, like a seafood gumbo or a clam chowder. Oh, nice. And I always get myself one packet of prawns, shrimps for me. Again, that I will usually eat on a pizza. Do you have a nice pizza maker? No, no, we just do them in the oven.

I'll sometimes get myself like a jar of sweeties, like, you know, lollies, sweets as a little treat for myself. You know, for Christmas, I got a little pack of lollies, of the ones I like, strawberries and cream, and I've put them into a special little Tupperware container and put them in a special drawer in another part of the house because I just really want to enjoy them myself from time to time and not be raided by the rest of the family. They wouldn't last a day with me.

You'd eat all these lollies at once. I can't. Easily I would eat a packet of strawberries and cream. Oh, well, I could eat them like that. Probably not in a day, but I could eat them very quickly. But I like the fact that I put them in this drawer which has other functional electronic stuff, you know, like phone chargers and stuff that's just my stuff that I put them in this drawer, which has other functional electronic stuff, you know, like phone charges and stuff.

That's just my stuff that I go to and I go, oh, yes, I forgot I got those. It's like a little fantastic surprise. Do you get your meat from the supermarket or do you get it from a special butcher? I don't get very much meat at all because my wife's vegetarian. I don't really eat meat at home much at all. So we don't really buy meat in if most of my meat eating is done out and about i'm more of a hunter do you do you go on on the prairie that's right just brady chasing a zebra bringing it down, just desperate for just a gnawing on its leg.

Trolley in one hand, zebra in the other. Do you get all your shopping done from one sort of supermarket then? You don't go to like a villagey area where like, oh, I'm going to Mr. Spot's, the butcher, and then another place. No. One big supermarket. Yeah. One big supermarket. When you're leaving the supermarket, you know how they kind of sometimes sell flowers.

Do you ever bring flowers back for your wife? Not often. Not often. If I get flowers, I'll get them from like a florist or somewhere that does them a bit more bespoke so I can tailor them to her needs. Right. And you know how they also, alongside that area as you leave, have those little rides, you know, the little rides where you put like a dollar in and you go around. Yeah.

Do you ever have, go on that now you've grown up and you've got the money and can do whatever you want? I don't go to that level of supermarket, man. I go to the posh one. They don't have any rides for kids at all? Not the one I go to, no. Oh, man. Well, I question whether it's a posh supermarket, man, if there's no rides.

Do you know what I've learned in the last year? This is a bit of a snobby thing to say, I realise, but it's just something I have noticed. And I don't know if it applies to Adelaide, because Adelaide's more one big city, whereas the UK is divided into lots and lots of cities and towns. You can tell something about a city or a town by whether or not its supermarket charges a deposit for trolleys yes because you go to some towns and the trolleys are like you know yes take the trolley and use

the trolley and bring it back and we'll get along and other places you just know you're going to have to have a pound coin if you're going to get one of those trolleys because they don't trust people with the trolleys no in terrellgan where i grew up right we used to go get trolleys and jam them together to click them in and get the money back that was like a way of getting some money to buy some lollies and so forth which does say a little bit about terrellgan there's another place up here burnside where i think every time you get a trolley you get a bonus champagne glass with it of champagne champagne holder on the handles holder on the trolley that's right yeah you never have a pen you don't have a chalkboard at home you don't actually do a list at all is what you're saying no if you do a mental list i just do it

i just do it from muscle memory and then i will sometimes say to my wife i'm doing the shop if there's anything specific you want send me a text and while i'm driving there i'll get a text with like six or seven key things that i may forget yeah i don't like lists and writing things down i almost like like my wife will sometimes say three or four things i need to get and she'll be like will you remember them or do i need to send you a text and i I'm like, I'll remember them. I'll remember them. And if it gets to like beyond four or five, I might say, okay, send me a text.

But it's almost like admitting defeat if I have to have things written down. I don't, I trust, if I have one thing, I'm like, send me a text. I don't trust my memory at all. I'll definitely forget it. I see, I see that as like questioning my competence if I have to be sent a list. Oh, okay. This is a character flaw of mine. I see that as like questioning my competence if I have to be sent a list. Oh, okay. This is a character flaw of mine. Yes.

Oh, indeed. Just so you know I know. It's a huge character flaw. Yeah, I will no doubt be making, if I'm doing the shopping, if I'm having to go down and get it and all that kind of stuff, I so don't know what I'm doing anymore that I will call back several times and go, is this right? I've been known, I'm not beneath FaceTiming the shelf and running along.

She goes, go along, go along, not that one, that one. And I've got the FaceTime camera with my finger because I'm useless. Whereas I'm so resistant to being told what to do in any way, I take a shopping list as a way of being told what to do. We would like to thank once again our loyal and much-loved episode sponsor, Hover. Hover, make the Unmade podcast possible. Need we say more? mean good sure i mean we we should probably say what hover do if people don't know what hover do they don't

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Check it out, people. Check it out. Look, Tim's throwing new features at you that you didn't even know existed. As many emails as you need, personalised, into your domain, comes out of your domain name. IMAP, POP and Webmail, which I've never in my life worked out what the difference is, but I know it's very important

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Tim has delved into the Hine family collection once again. His family legacy, his inheritance, which he shares with us on a regular basis. What spoon collected by your late father and current mother do you have to share with us? This is one of those inheritances that you get to dip into while your parents are still with you, which is a great blessing. I'm sure the spoons are mentioned in the will, but we're able to, not only am I able to get access to them now,

but I'm able to share them with the Unmade podcast listeners. The other thing that's a great benefit of that is I'm also able to check back with mum as to, you know, where this spoon came from. Unfortunately, that's not helped us on this occasion because she has no idea and doesn't think she's ever seen this spoon before. The spoon that I've got today is not got any writing on it whatsoever. And on the front or the back, it does, though, have a lovely little picture, like a little painting. lovely little picture, like a little painting, although the person in the painting is sort of embossed a little bit in gold. I'm sure it's not

real gold. It's a golden person. It's a golden person who is, I think... Looks like a silver surfer, but made of gold. Indeed. Instead of surfing, he... It does look like a he. I think it's a he bowling lawn bowling yeah um would you agree that's lawn bowls they've got that square thing they stand on he's he's on a he's on a green like grassy floor and there's a blue sky with clouds and then he's all gold and he's standing on a mat which lawn bowlers do you have to have a foot on the mat when you bowl i'm sure he's in a lawn bowls pose there i'm sure this is some kind of lawn bowls spoon he's

standing on a green green it's a green a bowling green and it's weird because both feet are on the mat so it does look a little bit like he's surfing down the bowling green which is not possible but or on a magic carpet ride of some kind but he's leaning quite a bit forward which can't be safe on a magic carpet um lawn bowl doing lawn bowls now listen my parents never played lawn bowls even though they also were born old and were always old um but a lovely man around the corner who i used to call pop he wasn't my real pop but he was a lovely man he um used to uh do bowls and perhaps he gave this to mum and dad but i don't know why it doesn't say something like taralgon bowls club or something on it it's got it's got no it's it's a purely like it's universal

bowls spoon is there anywhere where it could have fallen off, like the other side, or is there any indication of something that's fallen off the spoon? No? No. No, no, no. It may be produced by some generic spoon manufacturer. Four lawn bowlers everywhere, and then you can insert your particular local club on there but i can't see

where that would fit because it would diminish the picture so it's just generally a lawn bowls spoon which is good i have to say i've i've played lawn bowls a few times for like a work retreat for fun and it's become quite a thing in australia you go along and even though it's generally old people you go along you have a drink and you but it's it's great it's great fun have you ever done it I don't think I have can you see yourself becoming a lawn bowler later in life you know what I can see myself doing it more than once a year like I don't think you know how people seem to go like croquet they go and do it like every day or every week I don't think so. But doing it as an idea every now and then with a few people you get together is a great idea because you stand there and you talk

and you get really competitive and it's fun and it's hard and you're outside and you walk and, yeah, it's good fun. It's certainly a good event for like a work retreat sort of day and then you go and have a barbecue or something or a party. I have some lawn bowls in my office actually, some indoor carpet bowls that I whip out down the work carpet every now and then, which is a lot of fun. I found them in dad's stuff. They're pretty cool, old retro ones.

Let me ask you this, because quite often we seem to go to your mum for information about the spoons, and I'd say nine times out of 10, she doesn't shed a whole lot of light on things. If your dad was still with us, do you think he would be a more reliable source of information or would he be equally useless? Oh, no, he would know a lot more. And if he didn't know, he'd come up with something. That's the thing.

Right. If your Achilles heel is being told what to do in the shopping department, My father's Achilles heel is saying the words, I don't know. Yes. He was famous hearing someone say something that he could never have known and then going, oh, yes, at the end of it. Agreeing effusively and comprehensively.

Thank you for clarifying the points there that I already knew. Yeah, that's dad. Now, it comes to the prize part of the show. Just a quick, a little bit of housekeeping here because I have spent the last two full days, uh, packing and posting prizes and rewards and treats and all sorts of things for Unmade Podcast stakeholders. If you'd like to become one of them,

go to patreon.com slash unmade FM puts you in there and they're running for all sorts of cool stuff. There's a link in the notes, but it does give me cause to give my usual reminder if you are already a patreon supporter please make sure your address is up to date and correct so that any things i might send will come to you because otherwise they're just going to go to some place you used to live or some wrong address and i can't be resending and redoing stuff afterwards because it's already a huge job.

So now's a good time. Go and check you've got the right address, patreon.com slash unmade FM. Now, this is the time where one of our supporters wins an Unmade Podcast souvenir spoon, minted and struck here in the UK. Let me call up my computer while Tim gets out his guitar to tell you who the winner of the spoon is. Okay, you ready, Tim? Yeah.

Gregory L from Wisconsin, I think. We have a few from Wisconsin. Wisconsin. Gregory L. Well done. Okay. The Sofa Shop mixtape, which is another of our unique gifts that can only be obtained by being a Patreon supporter and then being lucky.

And this is going to Stephen from Boise, Idaho. You know, I think that chord sequence has a bit of promise. I was fiddling around with it earlier waiting for you to log on and I reckon I could do something with it. You've got to incorporate the name of the winner into the song though. You can't just play instrumentals after I say each name. I'm not struck with inspiration by anyone's name yet. I'm just waiting for something to come.

Well, there you go, Stephen. You've been told. Yep, sorry, Stephen. All right. I'll try and fit him into the third verse somewhere later on. Let's go to people who are going to get some Spoon of the Week trading cards. We have five winners here. First, we have Luke from Quebec in Canada.

Oh, there we go. See, Luke, Quebec, Canada. There's something you can do lyrically with that. Okay, go on. Luke, Quebec, Canada. Luke, Quebec, Canada. Look, Quebec, Canada. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's something there.

Quebec. It's fun to say Quebec, isn't it? Yeah. And, oh, Canada strikes again here. We've got Zhang from Ontario. Ontario. That's a nice word too, isn't it? Zhang.

Land. Zhang. Zhang, Zhang. Zhang, Zhang. Zhang, Zhang. I shot you down. Zhang, Zhang. How do you... That awful sound.

Zhang, Zhang. How do you spell Zhang? X-I-A-N-G. Oh, that's great. That's cool. I know. It's cool. I might call the album Zhang.

Yeah, that's the album. That's the title track. Also, again, Canada. Eric B from Canada. Eric B. Sounds like a hip-hop artist. Except for the Eric bit. There are not enough Erics doing hip-hop.

But the B bit, you know. Yeah. And then, you're not going to believe it, Tim. doing hip hop but the beat you know yeah and then you're not going to believe it Tim another Canadian four in a row

Jared from British Columbia Jared from British Columbia or from Vancouver Vancouver can you work with that better you better come back Jared this is something Jared yeah Vancouver, can you work with that better? Quebec, come back.

Jared. Yeah, this is something Jared. Yeah. And breaking the streak of Canadians, the last but not least winner of collector cards is Balal from Derby in the UK. Balal. Oh, see, that'll rhyme with everything. Balal. That's nice. Balal. Oh, see, that'll rhyme with everything. Balal.

That's nice. My doll. Balal. My doll. What are the three names of the Canadians again? There are four. Luke, Jean, Eric, and Jared. Luke, Jean, Eric, and?

Jared. Jared. Luke, Jean, Eric and... Jared. Jared. Luke, Jean, Eric and Jared. Hey, Luke, Jean, Eric and Jared. Woo. Jean, Eric and Jared from all over Can... Canadian. Okay, yeah.

They're the Canadian Beatles, those four. Whatever happened Luke, Jean, Eric and Jared Who's your favourite? I've always preferred Eric I was always a Luke man Luke's the leader, clearly Yeah Alright, thank you to all our Patreon supporters Especially Luke, Jean I was always a Luke man. Luke's the leader, clearly. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Thank you to all our Patreon supporters, especially Luke, Zhang, Eric and Jared. Zhang, Eric and Jared. Prizes will be coming the way of those people next time I do a big mailing session, probably in about a month's time. Now, we're short on time we're skipping moon of the week this week uh and we're also skipping tim's idea so there's massive relief segments that most people like to skip we're skipping them for you oh man play the hover app again folks if you're gonna do another segment that to do another two hover apps. More popular segment than it is the mood of the week in my head.

We're going straight to the breaking of the KFC fast. Yes. Let me set the scene, Tim. Tell me if I've got this right. Yep. You quite like KFC. I think this is well documented. It's a bit of a...

I think that's ground we've covered, yes. You decided to forego KFC for all of 2022, sort of for health reasons and a bit of a show of solidarity with family members everyone was trying to get on, a bit of a health bandwagon, and that was your thing you did. Is that how it came up? That's what you told us. That's what you told us.

All right. I later found out you had, without telling me, gone off meat completely for the year, barring a couple of accidents and a couple of moments where you had a little bit of meat for various reasons. But you were pretty much vegetarian all year. But it was well known you were going to have KFC on New Year's Day. There was a special ceremony had been planned. Yes. Tell us about what the plan was, Tim.

Tell us how it was going to unfold. Well, for about nine months or so I've had an ongoing conversation with a bunch of civilians who are also friends and part of the church here, and which include a colonel, Colonel Katrina, about what we're going to do to break the fast because they also joined in solidarity with the journey they were quite inspired by the leadership that i showed abstaining from kfc were they kfc fans also oh yes oh yes very heavily particularly colonel katrina and um yeah and and so they they went through it too so we said why don't we get together

on um new year's day and break the fast together in in a grand celebration and and so we did we planned it we ended up doing it at their house and so the job fell to me to buy it on the way okay so this first piece of audio we're going to play for you is tim and i believe his wife also going to the drive-through kfc to buy the the loot the goods and i will warn you in advance this is one of the most painful pieces of audio listening you are ever going to endure. I found this absolutely torturous. But we'll play it and then we'll come back to it. So here it is.

Well, here we are driving into a KFC for the first time in a year. Something that the car habitually does on its own like muscle memory it's flowing nicely into the drive-thru here we go oh look they've put up new snazzy screens everywhere this is very they've done up this place i have done it up wow this is really it's like they've done it up for us for me maybe maybe hi we're using the kfd. Hi, yeah. And I've got a few things I want to order here because I've got some people I'm buying for. So can I list them through and you tell me what the right, the best deal is really?

Sorry, what were you asking? I want a whole range of things for a large group of people. Yep. Okay. Like a feast, like one of our shared meals. Yeah, but let me say a few specific things first that I know they definitely want. Yep. A Zinger burger.

A Zinger burger. Double crunch burger. Like a double tender. And three tenders with sweet and sour sauce. So it looks like it's a double crunch with three tenders and sweet and sour sauce. Yep, so that's a double tender burger and three tenders with sweet and sour. Anything else? Yes.

Another Zinger burger, please. Another zinger burger? And another zinger burger, please. Yeah, it looks like you've got four burgers there. We often bring that one to a burger feast. It comes with two large chips, six nuggets and a regular popcorn for a bit of a discounted price. Yeah, sure. You remember which burgers it was that I wanted them? Yeah, it was the two zingers and two double tender burgers, correct? Okay.

Yeah. Then I want a, like a bucket of chicken, so... Is that the original recipe chicken? Yes. Yeah, how many pieces are we after? We can do the six piece add-on, which comes at a bit of a cheaper price. Oh, sorry, the four piece add-on, which comes at a cheaper price because of the shared meal that you're getting.

And I can do like two lots of those if you're after that, so you get eight pieces total. What's a larger bucket? The largest bucket would be 21 pieces. We do a 15 as well. Let's do a 15 piece. Yeah, and 15 pieces of original recipe. Anything else? Hang on. 4, 8, 12, 16.

Yes, hang on. 3, 6, 9, 12, 12, 16. Yes, hang on. 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18. That was all, sorry. No, let's do 21, please. Yes, make it 21. Yeah. Anything else today? Yeah, like three large...

Is there a lot of fries to go with that and coleslaw? Yeah, I already ordered two large chips with your burger feast. We're also adding on the two sides for $5.95, which is like a discounted lot of the two large chips. Yes, please. Yeah, adding two sides for $5.95, and that was two large chips with your burger feast. We're also adding on the two sides for $5.95, which is like a discounted lot of the two large chips. Yes, please. Yeah, adding two sides for $5.95, and that was two large chips. Anything else? And we haven't got any coleslaw, have we?

No, I can add on a large coleslaw also for a little bit cheaper than that one. Yeah, great. Yep, anything else? Wicked wings. Oh, and wicked wings, thanks. Yeah, we offer like 10 of those teas, so I can do 15 as well. No, let's just do 10. Yep, and wicked wings. Anything else? No, I think we're finally allings, thanks. Yeah, we offer like 10 of those teas, so I can do 15 as well. No, let's just do 10. Yeah, and Wicked Wings. Anything else?

No, I think we're finally all good. Thanks. Yep, and can I just do a shock on this? We have one for $2.95 or a special two for $4.95. No, thank you. No worries. Is there any popcorn chicken in that hole, do you? It comes with just one regular popcorn. Yeah, that's fine.

Yep, just drive down, mate. Thank you. Just double check that one. I won't remember. Just one large coleslaw, is it? We need another large coleslaw, please. And how many chips is that altogether? Yeah, that's enough. One more chip, sorry, mate, as well.

Thanks, mate. Oh, wow wow that is heavy so is there 21 bucket in there is it oh okay okay can i grab a bucket as well oh okay no worries thanks oh we didn't get any drinks Oh, okay. No worries. Thanks. Oh, we didn't get any drinks. Go back. Hang on, hang on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We forgot to buy some drinks.

Have you got 1.25s? We'll get a Sunkist and a... Pepsi or whatever. Is there a lemon? Oh, and a Pepsi. A 7-Up. Yeah, a 7-Up and a Sunkist. Thanks. Enjoy. Thanks. Enjoy. Thanks. That was awful. What?

That was awful. It was like some old person who'd never used technology before or had never been through drive-thru. You're like, I'll have one Zinger burger, please, and another Zinger burger, please. Mate, I tell you what. It was all over the shop okay you didn't understand you were like i don't understand how this works can you put it together and like so you were like some kind of old man that had never you never ordered food before and the guy at the

other end also was terrible because he like he didn't understand what he was dealing with he like i understand why you were ordering the way you were obviously because there were all sorts of competing demands but he didn't get it either and he was like you would say something and then he'd go can i get you anything else like it was obvious you were going to be there for a while doing all this stuff and it was like two people from different generations and different worlds trying to communicate and doing a really really poor job oh god it drove me crazy i just wanted to be in the car and say tim you idiot do this do that i do let me okay so let me explain in my defense uh how it came out the way it is

the reason is because the orders came through in a haphazard way via WhatsApp, right? So this was, I was like, they sent on Snapchat what they want. I said, send the orders in and I'll get things on the way. And then, of course, things disappear on Snapchat. So I said, actually, no, WhatsApp them. So they came through, but different, like, members of different members of the families and couples were sending through different things. A zinger for me and then, you know, let's get some coleslaw,

then a zinger for me. And I'm like, oh, okay. So it wasn't like I consulted the WhatsApp, made a nice list. Oh, there's three zingers and there's two lots of this kind of chicken. And then there's this. So I was actually looking through the WhatsApp while I was talking to the guy and that's why it came out as messy. You could have done a bit of consolidation beforehand i

could have yes yes but by then i'd pulled up and the pressure was on and i was i was a bit out of practice to be honest but it was it was it was painful whatever the excuse was the guy at the other end must have been thinking who is this guy has he he never had KFC before? Not realising he was dealing with one of Australia's great KFC eaters. That's right. That's right. With experience. I do think I have more experience than he does doing my bit than he does doing his bit.

But I do think he could have listened. Let me list through everything that I want and then tell me how it all comes together. It's like he wanted you to. The thing is, it's like they want you to stop ordering. They keep saying, is that it? Is that it? And you keep saying, no, no, no, no, no.

There's more. Is that it? Is that it? And then when you finally say, yeah, that's it. Then he starts offering you more stuff. Yeah, that's right. And it's like, for God's sake. It's like you wanted the order to end.

I finally say it's over. And now you're trying to. But of course, the one thing to emerge from this which is i frankly i think scandalous and that is kfc phasing out buckets and yet using buckets as their primary marketing thing i know like they market those buckets like crazy bucket bucket bucket and you can watch the cricket and everyone's wearing buckets on their head. And let's have a bucket. Let's have a bucket. And you and I had this problem when we went to KFC.

And then you had it again where they say, oh, we don't actually give you buckets. It's ridiculous. It's almost like bucket is a collective noun for chicken or something. And they don't actually have buckets. No, no. It's crazy. I know, it's a disgrace. It is.

It's ridiculous. It's not even he said, i won't give it to you he says we don't have them anymore it's like it's like their most successful marketing campaign is suddenly costing them money because everyone wants it and it's like didn't you build that into the idea what if this becomes really popular like the buckets of kfc have been a big deal since we were kids i remember getting buckets of kfc like it's legendary like when you and i went to kfc and they didn't give it we ordered a large number of pieces of chicken and they gave them to us in a box and we said no no no no no we're here for the bucket they did have a stash of buckets they said all right if you ask we'll

give you a bucket but you couldn't even get one here. I think that's like, that's the only thing worse is when they haven't got chicken, which has happened to KFC from time to time. But not having buckets is inexcusable. Yeah, that diminished the experience somewhat, I have to say. Because walking in with a bucket of chicken under your arm as well is like such a statement of intent. I know. And you have it in your arm.

Whereas with a box, it ends up in a bag and it's not quite the same. You don't see the red and white. Terrible. Anyway, Tim's made the purchase eventually. He forgot the drinks, of course. Yes, had to back up. The classic thing is the big big four will drive behind us and pulled up to the window so we had to do the old you know toot and move back kind of thing but

they were they seemed to understand what what had gone on don't let that guy wants more chicken that's even more that's right that's that's tim heinz car back up everyone give him. This could take a while. Anyway. He's got the platinum card. He's going to drain the place before he finishes. So, anyway, you've got your stash. You've gone around to Colonel Katrina's.

We're going to play the next section. And can I just point out how wonderful the sound of australian birds in the background is in this next section do enjoy it people all right well the moment has come after a whole year and i can't even remember how far back into december 2021 it was but that was the last time I ate some KFC until today. Today is New Year's Day 2023. It is also KFC Day. I've joined together tonight with a few other civilians who have been on the KFC fast journey through 2022 to join together and to celebrate and break the fast this is our kfc break fast it's beautiful we've got a massive amount of chicken 21 pieces it's an outdoor area there's we're under a gazebo

it's a beautiful hot day as it is here in the new year of the southern hemisphere here in adelaide australia and by golly am i looking forward to licking my fingers after this chicken experience this is the longest i've ever been in my entire life without kfc finally i'm coming back to it i've poured a little bit of sun kissed and which is my chosen drink you have to get from the peps Pepsi range when you're at KFC in Australia and I imagine around the world. So I can see now we're here amongst the bag and we're pulling out. Well, there's a few chicken, there's a few fries being stolen. There's a range of Zinger burgers and other choices that have been sent through on the WhatsApp. There's also, I must say, a little bit of choice rosé as well being enjoyed because it's summer here. And there are two boxes of chickens. We got a bucket, but they said, I'm sorry, we don't

do buckets anymore. So you've got two boxes. And I nearly threw it back in his face, I have to say. But I said, can I have a bucket anyway, just for show? And he goes, no, we don't actually have them anymore. So I'm like wow great okay you've just ruined this entire experience you wait a whole year and they don't have a bucket friends if you do have buckets store them up because apparently they're uh being discontinued but anyway well here we go a massive steel gardening bucket that has been provided to me but I don't think it's more of a champagne bucket I think than it is a KFC bucket all right here we are sitting in I have in front of me now a plate with a bunch of fries and some coleslaw and two pieces of KFC as is tradition I'm starting

with a drumstick the first KFC I'm eating in 12 months is going to be a piece off the side of a drumstick, which I think is the first piece you grab every time really much, isn't it? And it smells pretty friggin' amazing. Let's give it a go. Oh, it's juicy. It's weird just to eat chicken in a year i've not eaten meat for a year so that's weird in itself but though i want to eat the skin's good i like the skin i'm not so sure about the chicken to be honest the texture of the chicken feels tasted a little bit weird but the skin is nice it smells nice and it tastes

oh i can feel my whole body just like relaxing. It's like a warm feeling is coming over me. It's like a spiritual experience. Yeah, no. It's like things have been put right. Everything is right in the world. We're like, oh man, that's good. I can feel my organs shutting down

that familiar feeling of the body just just seizing relaxing atrophying oh that's good that's nice all right i am gonna i am gonna have a little bit more i did wonder about this because when i cooked it at home i wasn't so sure but i tell you now i've got the real thing from the colonel it's a little bit overcooked I have to say a bit unusual for Mitchum they've given us some older bits maybe I'll try the other box oh there's some oh there's some wicked wings down the end I'm gonna move on to them next definitely some wicked wings there's a few other zingers being eaten as well I only grab a zinger when I'm driving somewhere and I need to keep her hands free Never get into the chicken on that occasion. But look, I'd have to say this is a welcome return of a fortnightly practice that has been long missed.

The drought is over. The fast is over. Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Oh, I must say, that was delicious and satisfying. And you reach that point somewhere during the meal where you go, you know what, I'm not hungry anymore, I've had enough, and you just keep going.

And I have to say, that was probably a mistake. But it was very delicious and it was finger licking and I was licking my fingers I must say I have to say less so the chicken more the flavoring and I think that's largely the case it's one of the great paradoxes of KFC is the actual food part of it isn't the best bit of it it's the garnish the beautiful skin herbs and spices and the way it's cooked just absolutely fantastic but anyway that's that I have to say I've now got that regret feeling which is all part of the KFC experience i'm feeling a little bit full and i've staggered over here to this couch and uh i'm just gonna sit here for a few minutes and enjoy what has been a little bit under the fingernail still to lick the fingers but i have to say that's

about it all right there we go tim I mean, the audio speaks for itself. Sounds like a pretty typical KFC experience to me. The joy, the pleasure, the regret, all the full range. It's like stages of grief with KFC. You go through the 11 herbs and emotions of eating KFC and the deed is done um reflecting on it now like some time later a few days later can you shed any more light on the experience and and your steps forward from here i do it it it does highlight to me the importance of a quality kfc

like in my mind the one that i've been thinking about all this time has been the best of the best. And you do have to factor in the fact that every now and then, you know, it's not the best KFC you've ever had. So that's, that was a little bit disappointing. But so,

so that, you know, that's, that's one thing I had, I have in my mind. And I think it really does come down to I am more of a quality than quantity man when it comes to KFC these days, definitely. Connoisseur.

Yes, that's right. So I would rather have, you know, five good pieces than ten bad pieces, for instance. Like a kind of a wine expert, do you sometimes, like, chew your Kc and then spit it out into a kfc bucket next to you if i had a bucket maybe i would that's what the bucket's for isn't it that's up there with the time you suggested i should have the skin as a

kfc patch to get off KFC, like a cigarette patch. Just wear it behind your neck. Oh, dear. Oh, that's awful. Yeah. So can I just say, before we continue with your path, your journey, which is what it's all about, is I actually went and had some KFC last night just so I could, like, almost like in solidarity and justfc last night just so just so i could like almost

like in solidarity and just to like just so i had something to contribute and as you know i don't usually get pieces of chicken i usually go for like the zinger burger which can also be hit and miss but the last few times i've gotten pieces of chicken i've gone for two pieces of chicken and a zinger burger because i wanted to get more into your, you know, I wanted to live your experience. Yeah, thanks. And I'm realising, you know, the pieces of chicken are what it's about. Like KFC chicken pieces, it's messier and you might not get as much food in your belly, but it's really nice.

And the Zingers can really be hit and miss. So last night my two pieces of chicken were lovely. But my zinger was a bit dry and it wasn't quite there. I'm coming around to your way of thinking and realising that maybe I've got to go back to old school and just get the pieces of chicken and not the burgers. Yeah. Well, that's good to hear, man. I like to hear that. It's not that I never have the zingers.

I just reserve that for when I'm driving because it is hard to drive with the chicken. It's just sort of a standby. And pulling over on the side of the road and eating it in your lap is, I'm not quite at that level. But. Are you, well, before I ask you about what you're going to do next, tell me about other people at the table. Colonel Katrina, for example, you know, breaking her fast as well. Was she equally enraptured by the experience? I'd have to say that Colonel Katrina, to my surprise, did say that she was a little bit underwhelmed.

I do think we had built it up quite a bit. And so she was a bit like, oh, yeah, it's just KFC, which is wonderful. But I said, well, normally KFC, we only have to wait a fortnight and then it's been a long day and then there we go. But when you've been waiting a year, there is a sense by which you start to imagine it as being something. It's putting it under a lot of pressure. So she was going, oh, it's good to have it. Good. Good to be back in the saddle. So she was going, oh, it's good to have it.

Good to be back in the saddle. But she did note the reality that maybe we had built it up a little bit too much. So this is why. Are you saying it was too long a drought? I think so. I think so. This is why people say, I mean, this is why KFC would never recommend that you go 12 months between having it. That's not recommended at all.

Fortnightly is the famous. Fortnightly is the time. It allows your body to recover and your taste buds to create. What are you going to do, though? Because there was some talk about vegetarianism being on the cards, but, you know, you love your KFC. What's your 2023 chicken plan? Look, in terms of the vegetarianism, I'm going to... I was very strict with it this year, like under no circumstances,

you know, making something at home. No, I'm not having it. I think I'm probably going to be... Except those four or five times. Well, they were accidents, but yes, apart from those. Well, your homemade Kc wasn't an accident and you said another one of the time that was at another one that was for me though at another one of the times you uh you said you did it to be polite yeah someone's home that's right yeah yeah

whereas i that i hadn't yet got into the practice of sort of texting ahead and going look we'll have anything but i'm not eating meat at the moment that kind of thing and so people generally are like oh no worries yeah great we'll have fish so um i think i'm just going to be a slightly largely still vegetarian but probably not be strict about it i'm going to be a little bit more relaxed there are a couple of lovely dishes that my wife makes that i look forward to having again and on christmas day for instance i have to say i did kind of miss not having any meat at all and i think every now and then if i have if i have a fast food it would probably be a kfc from time to time are you going to have kfc in 2023 then you are going to have the odd one yes i am i am i am at what kind of interval are we talking? Well, somewhere between annually and fortnightly.

Let's say somewhere in between there. I'm not on a fast. I'm back out there. But I would say nowhere near as regularly as I once was. I'm not going back to my old ways. Speaking of Christmas meals, by the way, I have another theological question for you. Oh, yeah. Because I went to a Christmas church service for Christmas, and it was like a family service. And at one point they had this song, which I think was like a cover of some other song by One Direction

or something, but they'd tweaked it or something. But anyway, the notion, the idea of the song, which was being sung by these puppets and stuff, was that Christmas Day is the best day ever. Christmas Day is the best day, you know, because Jesus is born. And, you know, Jesus is pretty important to Christians. Yes. Is Christmas the best day, though? I argued at the end to the person I was sitting next to,

surely Easter is the best day ever. Yes. Surely Easter is the day that you should be singing and going crazy about. And the birth of Jesus is almost like, you know, well, he had to be born someday. Obviously, it wasn't in December anyway, but but that's by the by i felt like they were putting too much importance on christmas absolutely you can't have your cake and eat it too only one

can be the best day and i think it should be easter you're absolutely correct you're absolutely correct easter day easter sunday as we call it is the the um the holiest or most important or most significant week of the year there's no in the christian calendar no question is christmas from a religious standpoint from a christian standpoint getting too much overrated yes it is it's it's important because not just because it's oh how wonderful that jesus came it's it's it's significant because it's it's when god decided not to be god without us god joined in with creation um and and his son became you know human and and was born so there's a set there is something wonderful about it it's not just you know jingle bells and snow and stuff and oh he started his life there is something wonderful that and miraculous that happened at that point.

But, you know, if you look at the four Gospels, well, you get, you know, like at the start of Luke there's a bit and I think at the start of Matthew there's a little bit about the Christmas story. But they're all about the death and resurrection. I mean, half of the Book of Mark is all about the final week of Jesus' life. So they're all about the death and resurrection. I mean, half of the book of Mark is all about the final week of Jesus' life. So they're all about that. That is Holy Week, if you like. There you go, people.

You heard it from Tim Hine, who is a Christian minister. Christmas, overrated, not important. Thank you, Tim. No worries. Downplay. Do you think Christmas will fade now that I've said that? Do you think Christmas will fade now that I've said that? Do you think Christmas will just fade away?

The day Christmas died. Because I was thinking about other famous people, because some famous people do lots of famous stuff. So we end up just celebrating them on their birthday. But other famous people, we celebrate the famous thing they did. Like we't i'm sure you don't know neil armstrong's birthday i don't know neil armstrong's birthday but we celebrate the day he walked on the moon yes the day he did his he did his thing yeah very good example and yeah yeah but there are other people who who we do just celebrate their birthday as the day because they do lots of things spread out over time so we just like okay we'll celebrate that person's birthday instead martin luther king

jr maybe i don't know who else i'm sure well they have they have martin luther day don't they in in martin luther king day i'm not sure it probably is i think it's i think it's coming up i think it's in january where every radio station across america plays you two's song pride over and over i think that's probably why it's it's yeah right it's the 16th of january oh but that's that's done on the it is called it's the third monday of january each year um and i think it does map to his birthday roughly yeah he was born january 15 so yeah they it's close to it's always close to his birthday, but they put it on a Monday for obvious reasons. It's funny that we remember someone like JFK,

we remember the day they died more than no one knows when JFK was born. Well, some people know, but, you know, no one remembers. Yes, I'm sure someone wrote it down. But, for instance, the Queen, it's the Queen's birthday, the day they're born Even though she's not Queen when she's born We do celebrate it, not on her birthday But on a regular interval for her birthday Or the King now, I guess

May 29 was JFK's birth date There we go And he died on November 23rd, is that right? 22 Oh, 22 But that's okay because I think it may have been the 23rd in Australia by then. Right, that's how I remember it in 1963. All right, well, welcome back on the KFC bandwagon, man.

I don't know how often you'll be on it, but we're glad to have you back. I'm sure KFC share prices have recovered somewhat. We spend a lot more time talking about KFC than either Christmas or Easter. So I don't know which is the most significant in my life. But there you go. Thank you very much. Did you get your secret words? No, no, no.

Damn it, damn it. And they're on my hand. You know, I brought it up earlier. In my mind, I brought it up while you were going on about something. I was like going, okay, okay, you've got to fit it in now. You've got to fit it in now. Just for once, just for once, you've got to remember to do it. And I didn't do it.

I feel small. I feel diminished, small, like a gnome, like a gnome eating, drinking tea. That's how I feel. Like a gnome drinking tea. Wow. Yes, I do. That's how small and thirsty. You feel like a gnome drinking tea. Wow. Yes, I do. That's how small and thirsty. You really painted a picture there.

I feel like a gnome drinking tea.