The Unmade Podcast - 128: The Failed Harpoons

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

Brady and Tim ponder Bluey’s gender, flower deliveries, a well-named baby, thinks we dislike, harpoon of the week, and movies that are unsuitable for kids. Hover - register your domain now and get ...10% off by going to hover.com/unmade- https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/14ayjd1 Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIRMZDOKKKs-d14YPmLMxg USEFUL LINKS Bluey - https://www.bluey.tv The Hiccup Paper - https://doi.org/10.1159/000075661 See Adrian Brady Oswald - https://www.patreon.com/posts/84664131 Philae - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philae_(spacecraft)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Recording in progress. You're wearing black. Did you play tennis in black or have you put black on to cool down? I did. I always play tennis in black. Oh. It made someone I was playing the other day think I was a New Zealander, though, which I was not happy about. He goes, are you from New Zealand?
Starting point is 00:00:18 Because he heard my accent. And I'm like, no, what made you say that? Were you wearing all black? Yeah. Oh, yeah, fair enough. I was wearing all black. Is it because you like to be the dark guy on the court in the midst of? I like to do a hucka before we start, except the song I do it is The Man in Black.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Yes, nice. Man in black. Man in black is back. I usually wear a black cap, too. So you're singing about yourself just as you walk on Yeah, I can just hear your voice in the back of my head The man in black The man in black is back Man in black
Starting point is 00:01:03 Man in black and a black cat You know how Wimbledon is the only Grand Slam where you must wear pure white, like with no branding and stuff? In the tennis, yes. Are all English people like that? I picture English people out in pure white clothes and you just stride out in your black. There aren't many people at my club who wear all white.
Starting point is 00:01:27 A few of the women do wear, like, white tennis outfits, but I think if you turn up wearing all white, I don't know, it looks like you're taking it all a bit seriously. Right, okay. So you better be good. Yes, yes. That's why you wear cum in black, because, oh, this guy will be rubbish. Is there a...
Starting point is 00:01:43 Lower the expectations. Look, speaking of colours and speaking of the colour blue, Bluey, the animated dog we discussed last episode. Yes. Cartoon, which everyone seems to love. I said Bluey was a boy. I referred to him with male pronouns. Bluey is a girl.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yes. Tim, as someone with two daughters will appreciate that there are two daughters in the show bluey not a boy and a girl and i would thank everyone individually who pointed that out but we don't have that long and and can i just say we don't have time to even cover the amount of people that pointed it out to me. You could have told me during the recording and saved me so much hassle. I didn't catch you saying it during the recording. Yeah, I didn't catch you saying it. You're the only one. So, I obviously, I've only watched a handful of episodes.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I just didn't realise. And, you know, little kids all sound the same to me. And as someone who has a boy that's sometimes confused for a girl, like, you know, that just happens with kids. So, but thank- No, I'm not going to thank everyone who pointed it out. I'm just going to thank some of you. The ones I'm not going to thank are the ones who went on to Reddit or somewhere, saw that it had already been pointed out and pointed it out again. I think that's, at best, that's lazy.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And at worst, the worst people are the ones who see someone write on redder, oh, Bluey is a girl, and write as a reply to that comment, yes, Bluey is a girl. So, they've definitely seen that it's been pointed out. Gillette, great moment and pointless comments. That's good. People love pointing out mistakes. Yeah. When you make a mistake.
Starting point is 00:03:31 God, people love it. And this was like peak, absolute peak. Bluey is a girl. It is a bit like the conventional, you know, it's the family of four on TV and, you know what I mean, the little girl and the boy. You know, you see that over and over. And in my defence, everyone I've ever known who is called Blue or Bluey, which is a nickname in Australia, usually for people with red hair, it's a male nickname.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I've never known a female to be called Blue or Bluey in my life, but I've known lots of men to be called that. That's true. That is true. So that is part of the reason I think I made the mistake. The other one is the parents in Bluey, the man is sort of a blue-coloured blue healer and the mother is like a red-coloured red healer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And Bluey is blue-coloured and Bingo, the other girl, is red-coloured. So, there was a confluence of information that led to my mistake. But it was a mistake. Bluey is a girl. You can all relax. It was my assumption when I was introduced by my daughters and then it was like, oh, right. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah. I assumed. One should never assume. And if you think it's funny to now go on Twitter and say to me again, Bluey is a girl. You go ahead and do that and you have your little chuckle, but know this, you will be muted and it's the last thing I will ever read you right. So, decide if you want that joke enough because it's the last joke you'll make to me and that's okay. But later on in like six months when you want to contact me on Twitter and tell me something, I won't be seeing it.
Starting point is 00:05:06 So make your choice. Make your choice. Do you want the joke? It's up to you. Way to ostracise 90% of our civilians in one five-minute intro. It's all right. No, no, no. Everyone who's already done it, you're fine, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:23 You were right. You were right. And it's right to point out mistakes and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if you do it now for a joke. Do you know what those pointless comments are a bit like? You know that scene in a film or maybe you remember from primary school where someone's like said something to someone that no one else has had the courage to say, but there's about 10 people behind them and then one by one they go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of Bluey, though, let me read this fantastic.
Starting point is 00:05:54 We've got other messages about Bluey, people who love the show. You know, it really strikes a chord, and it's a fantastic show. It is sort of for kids, but go ahead and watch it, even if you're an adult, because it is great. I love this message. This came from Cody in Wisconsin. I've been meaning to write in for a while now, but the latest episode prompted me to finally do so. I was listening to the podcast while out on patrol.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I work a 12-hour night shift and the shift can get quite long. I should point out that Cody is like a patrol officer, like a policeman. Right. Anyway, I have long had a soft spot in my heart for Australian culture. And when you guys mentioned Bluey, I figured I should check it out so I would understand the reference. During a particularly slow part of the shift, I parked on the side of the road and ran some radar and I pulled YouTube up on my phone. Between cars, I watched a couple of episodes of Bluey. I must say, I was struck by how genuine the show feels.
Starting point is 00:06:47 There I was, a 29-year-old deputy sitting in my patrol car on the side of the road, crying like a little girl at the genuine wholesomeness of this show. I think it is about the most wholesome content I've ever consumed, besides the wholesome episode with Mrs. Hine, of course. Yes. Which I think would have benefited from a mention of Bluey. Yes. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Very good. I like that he's a boy in blue as well, like as we call the police in Australia. Yeah. Nice. I wonder if like Cody would have pulled anyone over and just like got caught up in the emotion and the wholesomeness and the goodness of it all and just let them off i'll let you off with a warning this time just for bluey a little moral lesson come on now you know you can do better i believe in you yes also in the last episode we mentioned uh jobs that we did when we were younger um whether we'd like to go back to
Starting point is 00:07:42 them or not and things like that it was an idea Tim. And we heard from lots of you about jobs you did. Thank you for writing in. I'll mention one here from Spin Echo. In high school, in the early 90s, I worked delivery for a florist. Fantastic job. Basically paid to drive around and listen to my mixtapes all day at $3 per delivery. Cash, of course. No GPS, MapsCo all the way.
Starting point is 00:08:06 People receiving the flowers were generally very happy. It was a highlight of their day. The main downside was that the tips were rare. The recipients weren't usually expecting flowers. They were happy to be receiving a gift and tipping the delivery person was not on their mind. Oh, yeah. Also, every now and again, the delivery was for a funeral,
Starting point is 00:08:24 which brought you down a little. The other fun memory from that job was Valentine's Day and Mother's Day. Way too many deliveries to be done, but at $3 a pop, I was there to make it happen. I had to drive around town like a madman. The flowers would be flying around in the trunk. I had to remake many of the arrangements in the parking lot or driveway. I think being a flower delivery person would be great. Why?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Because it's bringing joy? Yeah, you're just this bubble of happiness. You're just like this person who walks in the room and brings happiness and smiles and laughter and tears and love. Like, what a great thing to do. Yeah, I like the idea. I think it's my wife's fantasy to be a florist, just to sort of have a little, you know, florist flower shop.
Starting point is 00:09:08 But I think heaps of girls think that. They have this sort of vision of being there and having a florist. And they never think about having to do all the paperwork and the book work and, you know, marketing the GST. Well, maybe they do. Well, tell your wife if she opens a florist, I'm up for being her delivery boy. Oh, man, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Yeah. You've got a long way to come for the shifts, but it's dedication. Three bucks a pop. Three bucks a pop would make an absolute killing. You must deal with a lot of flower delivery because you do weddings and funerals and stuff. Yeah, but I'm not actually getting married or, you know, like they're around the place. Yeah. There's a flower room here at the church where there's like flowers and stuff arranged, like done and arranged for Sunday and for different events and things.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And it's got all like vases and stuff. It sounds like you're not particularly au fait with the flower room. I'm not across the detail of it, no, to be honest. No, you delegate the flowers. You're not in there arranging them before your sermon. I don't notice flowers, to be honest. Apart from tulips, I sort of go, oh, there's a tulip because I recognise it. But I don't notice flowers at all.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Will you do me a favour this Sunday at church? Before you do your sermon, will you just take a second to say, can I just say how wonderful the flowers look today and thank whoever arranged them? Oh, you do. They're not every week, I must say, but I will do that. Or at least I'll point around and go, where are the flowers? I love it when we have flowers.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Who's not done their job today? Are you a big flower buyer do you do you with your wife buy or someone else buy flowers it's not my instinct i know sometimes to do it to bring happiness to the house but it's not an instinctive move for me because they're temporary i like buying presents that last forever right and i know that's part of the romance of them. I know that's part of, like, the beauty of giving flowers. But I'd rather, like, a piece of jewellery or something, you know, something that lasts forever. It is crazy because it's an easy win. It's always a win, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:11:16 It's like an easy win in the relationship. I know. Why do we not do it more? I never think of it. No. Yeah, you're right. It's like it's low-hanging flowers. Yeah. Oh, dear. Anyway, you're right. It's like it's low-hanging flowers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Oh, dear. Anyway, flower delivery. I love the idea of just being that happy person. Also, another thing that we've been discussing lately is it all started with, oh, I'm sorry, I've forgotten his name. It's just fallen out of my head, but we've mentioned him a few times, so he can't complain. The chap from Israel who, when he rubs his chin, the beardy part of his chin, gets hiccups
Starting point is 00:11:48 automatically. Oh, yes. Yeah. And then we heard from other people who get that. And Elazar17 did a bit of research and wrote, as they mentioned the hiccup thing again, I actually did some research and found a medical paper from 2004 called Chin Stimulation, a trigger point for provoking acute hiccups. That seems to describe what the other listeners have mentioned.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I think the paper is just a one-page letter to the editor, but it's well referenced and an interesting read. Here's the link. And I will put the link in the notes for this episode so people can go and have a look. I have had a read of it myself, and it seems like it was just a doctor that had heard a bit about this. It seems to be maybe a journal called Respiration?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah, Respiration. Initiation of hiccups by manipulation of the unshaven 24-hour hair growth chin is a not previously known way to provoke this mysterious malady, which ceases abruptly upon interruption of chin manipulation. And later on it says, we report two middle-aged healthy men who discovered that by stroking or shaving their unshaven chin, they could provoke acute explosive hiccups. The reflex disappeared after local anesthesia of the mental nerve. And then it goes into a lot of other details and lots of big,
Starting point is 00:13:07 long words and body parts I've never heard of. So, have a read, people. It's the real deal. Well, there you go. Well, I guess that settles it, yes. You're a believer now? Finally, you've come round? I'm amazed that they got that article out so quickly.
Starting point is 00:13:19 We only broadcast that episode a few weeks ago. only broadcast that episode a few weeks ago. One more message from a civilian that I'm very excited to read. This comes from Jay Oswald in Australia and Jay's wife, Annalise. Jay writes, just wanted to introduce both of you to your probably youngest fan. He is nine hours old at the moment. And there's a picture of a baby. And it says, Unmade has been me and my wife's favourite podcast since we were dating. And now we're married with our first baby.
Starting point is 00:13:59 We decided to call him Adrian Brady Oswald. Brackets. Sorry, Tim. Unbelievable. to call him Adrian Brady Oswald brackets. Sorry, Tim. Unbelievable. We are already planning our first pilgrimage to Travagan KFC. Brady. Adrian Brady. Named after the great man. How does that happen?
Starting point is 00:14:18 Incredible. They obviously flipped a coin. I hope you're really jealous. I hope that has made you really jealous. I am a little bit jealous. Yes, I am. Yeah. Tim's a pretty common name, though.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Like, you know. It's a wonderful name. Yeah, but it's there. And I'm not saying it's a bad name. It's a perfectly serviceable name. But you're not going to say to your parents, like, why is my middle name Tim? Like, you're just going to be like, oh, Tim.
Starting point is 00:14:45 But like, when your middle name's Brady, it's like, Adrian Brady sounds great too. Why the heck is my middle name Brady? That's what he's going to say one day. Is there another? Love it. I don't know if I've asked you this before. Have you met another Brady with a first name Brady? I have met a couple.
Starting point is 00:15:02 It wasn't until I was in my 20s that I met my first, but I've now met, yeah, a couple, two or three. And I've met, and I'm sure I told you the story. It was the night Donald Trump was elected. I remember I was at a theatre group and I needed to charge my phone and I saw a phone charger. So, I said to someone, oh, can I use that phone charger? And they said, oh, that's Brady's phone charger. You'll have to go and check. So I went upstairs and said, oh, is Brady here? I want to borrow your phone charger.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And this woman turned around and said, yes, that's me. Oh, right. It was a woman called Brady. Lady Brady, she has been nicknamed. Oh, that's a great story. And I have met one or two fellas as well. But not many. Not many. I've never met a female Timothy, I have to say.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Really? But there is- Is there a female version of Tim or Timothy? Is there like a- You know, I had lots of names that were female. Well, the only reference point I have for this is at school, being given the nickname Timberlina, you know, how you'd be sort of called a girl as a, you know, derogatory thing. So, Timberlina, you know, how you'd be sort of called a girl as a, you know, derogatory thing.
Starting point is 00:16:06 So Timberlina. But I'm not sure that was well researched by the other kids in grade six. And it's never really stuck. But I remember it 30 years later. And 40 years later, Tim, Tim, no, there's not really. Tamiti, Tamara, Tim, there's not really Tamiti, Tamara, Tim. There's not, I don't think, really. Heidi is the alternative name to Tim, if you recall.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Remember my parents, my mum told me that's what they were going to call me if I had had a girl. You were going to be Heidi Heine, that's right. I was going to be Heidi Heine, yeah. Love it. I really like that, actually. And I was going to be Courtney. That's right. But anyway, lucky Adrian.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Welcome to the world. I like the name Adrian, too. I've had a few Adrians that I've known, and they always seem to be kind of pretty cool people. There we go. He's going to be like a poet or a novelist, I think, something like that. He's going to be an absolute legend is what he's going to be. Well done. Thank you for that message and thank you for choosing.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I think, I guess they just said, well, which host do we like more? And went with Brady. I consider it must have been them. Which host do we feel sorry for and, you know, feel like we need to come up? Throw him a bone. Throw him a bone. Give him something. Can I just point out at this point, before we move any further,
Starting point is 00:17:25 like I have words from my daughters, right? Secret words. I have secret words and I'm just putting that. Whoa, this is early. I know. I'm just putting a marker in the episode and just saying they were written, look, they were written on my hand back to front in texta by one of the daughters. I can see them.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Over dinner. I can see them. Can you see what they are? Can you make out what they are? Are they back to front in the camera? Yes, I can read can see him over dinner i can see him can you see what they are can you make out what they are are they back to front yes i can read them yes yes good so uh they're there let's just remember they're there we don't have to say them now but i want to say them at some stage and if you can help me you're so eager keen as mustard you are well that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I'm bouncing up and down like Tigger. All right. Well, let's see. Maybe we'll drop them in at some point. We'll see. Let's hopefully get them in. All right. Now, unbelievably, as Tim has actually done his job for the episode,
Starting point is 00:18:28 he's drudging the secret words. I've got nothing else. I've got nothing else. Well, it's funny you've done that because I cannot think of an episode we've been less prepared for than this. It's been a bit – and you're probably thinking, well, if you're not prepared, why are you recording an episode? And that's a fair question. It is.
Starting point is 00:18:42 And the answer is basically I've got a busy few days and a week ahead, so we suddenly realised it was kind of now or never, so it was a last-minute decision. But it does mean I don't know how well-prepared our ideas will be, probably about as badly as ever. Well, I think if you start asking questions like that, you sort of get to, well, why are we doing this at all? Like, what are we doing with our lives?
Starting point is 00:19:03 Why is there... I do wonder that from time to time. So, who's going to go first with an idea for a podcast? I've got one. My poorly named episode, this is from the Tim School of Podcast Naming, I've decided to call White Chocolate. Oh, I like this already. You like the name? I'm a big call white chocolate. Oh, I like this already. You like the name?
Starting point is 00:19:27 I'm a big white chocolate fan. Oh, no, you're joking. Why? Oh, well, that ruins my idea even more. Why? Because I was, well, not necessarily, but white chocolate is divisive in my household. My wife prefers darker chocolate. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:43 But I really like white chocolate. So, I was getting some white chocolate out of the cupboard last night, late at night, for a little sneaky sweet treat. And for some reason it came into my head, I wonder if Tim eats white chocolate or likes white chocolate, because I was thinking about podcasts and stuff. I decided I was confident that when I mentioned white chocolate, Tim would say, oh, no, I can't stand white chocolate.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I don't like it. Turns out I'm wrong. I can't stand white chocolate. I don't like it. Turns out I'm wrong. Sounds like you like white chocolate. But my idea for a podcast is to try and pick things that you think the other person doesn't like or won't like without the knowledge, without the prior knowledge, which is hard because, you know, we know a bit about each other's likes and dislikes. But there's lots of things like white chocolate that we don't know about. I've kept my passion, my secret passion for white chocolate a secret. So I think it would be fun to think of things that you just think the other person is not going to like.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yes. OK, so, well, look, I know this is not the point anymore, but can I just point out I actually am rather indifferent to regular chocolate. So I love dark, dark chocolate and I love white chocolate. I hate anything in chocolate, like nuts or anything like that. It's got to be pure. But just a normal bar of dairy milk chocolate, I find bland. It doesn't do it for me.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Anyway, so. I don't like dark chocolate. I doesn't do it for me. Anyway, so. I don't like dark chocolate. I don't like it bitter. I want my chocolate sweet, which is why I like white chocolate, because that's always super sweet. So, when we move into this area, that gives a bit of a hint with you, because I think if we stay in, like, the culinary area, I know there's quite a few things that you don't like.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah. But things with, like, organic and natural flavours, I think, are things that you don't like. Yeah. But things with like organic and natural flavours, I think, are things that you don't like. Okay. Like what? You know, you're not very big on... Let's take it in turns, naming things the other person doesn't like and see who fails the most. Do you...
Starting point is 00:21:38 Okay. So, they've got to be specific things. Okay. Specific things. Yeah. All right. I'm going to say you don't like mushrooms. No, I don't mind mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Oh. Yeah, I don't mind them. I don't- I wouldn't seek them out. Right. They're not like, woohoo, mushrooms. But I will eat mushrooms on my plate. So, you're not getting a sneaky mushroom from the cupboard late at night for something sneaky? No, I don't want to sneak downstairs for a mushroom when I go for my white chocolate. But I don't mind, especially like I'm fried up a bit.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Okay. Well, that surprises me because they're kind of earthy and fungi and that's not really you. That's what I mean. It wasn't a stupid guess, but you just happened to get unlucky there. Because we eat a lot of vegetarian dinners now and mushroom are quite often kind of the meaty replacement in some ways. Like, you know yeah yeah and i've got i've grown to quite appreciate a mushroom all right let me think of something i think you won't like clowns or am i remembering you don't like clowns
Starting point is 00:22:37 where do you stand on clowns have you told me you don't like clowns it's so funny that you mentioned this two things firstly i um this week there was something on tv but i was this week thinking about clowns and remembering how some people have a phobia of them and me going how you know that's really funny but i got it this week like i dislike clowns clowns are annoying i literally had that thought this week so that's funny you mention it you may have told me that before no no i feel like i just sort of thought that this week i didn't say it to anyone but the other thing is i was a clown i i was a clown when i was in that drama group when i was a teenager and we like learned clowning and um i oh that's right no what was your clown name you did what was you had a clown name you told me this what was it omelette omelette that's right we've
Starting point is 00:23:34 done it was even the title of the episode yeah okay so do you like clowns or not like clowns they're a bit weird i don't dislike them it's not like a thing that I've always disliked or anything like that. But I'm largely indifferent to clowns. They're sort of the dairy milk chocolate. They're a bit annoying. They're a bit, they're the ultimate extrovert person standing in front of you. And that makes me sort of go, all right, let's just bring it down a little bit, you know. Let's see if you can come up with something I don't like.
Starting point is 00:24:01 All right. So I'm going to say watching like Dancing with the Stars or is it strictly come dancing, like dancing related reality television? Yeah, I don't like that. No. Yeah, I don't like those shows. There have been periods in the past when I have watched the odd series, you know, because it captured the nation and I got swept up by it. But now it's been years since I watched those. Yeah, I don't like those.
Starting point is 00:24:29 People, I'm with you there. It astonishes me that people like them, but dancing's been around for millennia, so yes. All right. Let me think of something that you won't like. I'm trying to think, how can I, like, how can I systematically figure out something Tim doesn't like? I think, hmm, I'm trying to tap into your impatience because you're impatient. Well, hurry up, will you? But you are a little bit pretentious. So there are things that I might think are a bit like tedious and boring, but you would like them because it sounds like I would say hiking, for example, that takes a lot of time and doesn't achieve much. But I think you would quite like the idea of being seen as someone who likes a nice hike.
Starting point is 00:25:16 No, you're wrong. No, I despise hiking. Yeah. Okay. I was on the right track then. Hiking. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I get so bored. It then, hiking. Yeah, I get so bored. It's so boring. Yeah. I like going for a walk around a city. Like I like that. I like walking, you know, I love walking. I love going for a walk with a dog, putting the podcast in your ear, going for a long, long, long walk around the city.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But if it involves, if I get out of the urban area, oh, start switching off. And then if you have to buy special boots and go and do the whole thing, you know, with a backpack, yeah, no, it's not for me. It's one of my wife's great passions. So it's a great sadness to her. But I get so bored. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It's terrible. I feel wrong for that. But, yeah, anyway anyway i know what you mean though about the pretension thing like so if you'd said something like you know a slow long movie you know what i mean with slow and it'd be like i'll be impatient but i'll be like oh there's something creative trying to be said here you know like yeah Yeah. Yeah. I'm like that with It's a Wonderful Life, which everyone thinks is such a wonderful movie, including you. And I tried to watch that and, oh, I couldn't get to the end of it.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I took like eight sittings and in the end I said, nah, I've had enough. God, that movie's tedious. You had to get into it maybe as a kid then. Have a couple of moments with it. I really love that movie. So much happens, though. That's not a slow movie. All right. All right. let's get out of it so we've done a bit of food and a bit of entertainment and uh i
Starting point is 00:26:50 wonder if there's something into fashion i don't know you're sort of is there something you don't like in fat oh what would you like in the fashion stakes you You're a pretty stylish guy. Something like that. Or car. Is there something there? Music. Well, let me just say classical music. No, I like classical music. Okay. Like, I don't put it on much, but I like it. And I like instrumental music. Like, I love
Starting point is 00:27:18 movie score. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, of course. Yeah. No, that's a bad call for me. I'd hate jazz. Oh, that's right. I hate jazz. Yeah. Well, we've gone there call from me. I'd hate jazz. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Well, we've gone there before. Something you don't like. I'm going to go for mathematics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah. Yeah. I like money mathematics. Because that's what I do, you know, budgeting and all that kind of stuff. I don't mind that. Because it feels useful and practical to me. Yeah, other mathematics, I guess, because I've never been into it. I've never been particularly good at it,
Starting point is 00:28:00 but that may be because I've not been patient enough to learn it well or because my teachers failed me or because you weren't a good enough friend to tutor me or i don't know yeah let me let me try something else that i'm just going to take a punt here on something you don't like yeah room temperature water just like tepid a tepid glass of water. Yeah, yeah. I like cold water. Yeah, for sure. Yeah? All right. I can go for days and not have drunk any water at all. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I'll have had like coffees and stuff and then a gin in the evening or a wine and then you sort of go, I don't think I've drunk any water for 48 hours. Like it's terrible. Yeah. But when I have it, I like it cold. And at work we have this cold tap, special cold tap that's good. I like that. I always go for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I thought you wouldn't go for tepid water. All right. What about you with leather jackets? Yeah, I don't like leather jackets or denim jackets particularly, although I have a couple. I don't find them comfortable. Mm, okay. Clothes should be comfortable.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Denim is not that comfortable, like a fabric, particularly on jackets. It's got to be, once it's worn in on your jeans, but jackets take a lot to wear in. They don't really wear in, do they? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't like leather jackets. Hmm. Weirdy, I'm guessing you don't like crocs.
Starting point is 00:29:26 No. Oh, no. They're kind of Dutch, aren't they? They're kind of like clogs, but I just think they're ugly. Yeah, the holes and where they are in the street. Yeah, I'm afraid they're not. And, yeah, crocs with socks. Are you a croc man?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Do you like crocs? Do you? No. No. No, that's all right. We have Birkenstocks. They're a good substitute. I don't like them.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Oh, you don't like Birkenstocks? No. No. Don't like them. I could go there better because they're leather and they feel a bit more quality and stuff. I wear sliders around the house. I don't like sliders, but because we have concrete floors,
Starting point is 00:30:04 my ankles get sore unless I wear them. And they're sort of these really nice special, you know, they're from a running shoe. They're like a really super bouncy, nice rubber. And they look pretty ugly, but I wear them every minute I'm at home and not in bed, you know. That's, yeah. I'm going to go, I'm going to say you don't like chalk.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Actually, I take that back because I think that would quite appeal to your pretentious Indiana Jones teacher. I do. Yeah, no, I quite like chalk, a chalkboard. And I've thought about doing that in the big hall here at church where kids can just come and draw and stuff all over it. I thought putting some chalk paint up would be good fun. Except it's very dusty and I don't like the dusty stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:47 No, that's what I don't like about chalk. And the sound of chalk on a chalkboard. It's not nice. Oh, yeah. And it is when you go drawing, unless you're using a little piece, it just snaps all the time. But I live my life with whiteboards and I like a whiteboard to help my thinking, but I have the world's worst whiteboard penmanship.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Just terrible. I'm trying to think of a sport that you don't like. And that's a hard one, isn't it? You're very sporty. Yeah, I don't think you'll come up with one. No. All right, Tim, here's one. Where do you stand on Hover, the domain registrar?
Starting point is 00:31:21 Oh, man. That is sponsoring this episode. Love Hover. Hover is it. I love them too. Love them. Tell me what you like about them. Well, they're just, I mean, they're just delicious.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Hang on, that's white chocolate. I love Hover. Hover is the obvious place to go to simply and quickly and efficiently and cheaply get domains on the internet, buy domain names, search through scores of them. If you're wondering, oh, I wonder if this domain name's available, bang, go and have a look. There it is, price, click, wang.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Why go to Hover, though? You could go to one of their inferior rivals. Well, I could. Why go rivals well like i could well i don't really know anything about them but which one you don't know you've just got the one here from your old pals tim and brady recommending and going well if it's good enough for tim and brady it's good enough for me that's the recommendation i'll tell you why hov is better than those other. Because they make it so simple and clean and the interface is elegant. And there's not like, it doesn't seem like overly technical to buy and then to use it, to attach it to things, to divert things to it or just to sit on it. They just like, they just make it clean and simple and pure. A bit like a facial, just like a cleansing experience so what you're saying yeah yeah it is registering a domain with hover is like having a facial
Starting point is 00:32:55 it's like it's like having you feel lighter somehow and free you got those cucumbers on your eyes and like you can choose like you can choose the essential oil that you like most and they may they may include a head massage sometimes so if you if you are in business you definitely should be registering domains with hover for things relating to your business but even if you're just a normal person going about your business, I think it's helpful to have a few domains registered that to do with your interests, your name, like, you know, like bradyharron.com is a good one to own if you're called Brady Harron, which I am.
Starting point is 00:33:37 You are. Therefore, that's a good domain to have. Go to hover.com slash unmade, and you're going to get 10% off any domains you register the first time you visit. Hover.com slash unmade. I have a load of domains registered with them. Other domains I've had registered in the past, I've been gradually moving over to Hover over the years. So they're all in the one basket. They're all with the one company that I trust and respect and like. Hover.com slash unmade.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Great supporters of the show as well. Great supporters of the show. Our church domain is through Hover. Any domain I have anything to do with. There you go. That's an endorsement from God himself. What more could you ask for? Not strictly an endorsement from God.
Starting point is 00:34:27 No, not strictly. In fact, in no way whatsoever But I think if God I mean, God doesn't need to register domains Because, like, you know He owns the internet as a whole Maybe he's actually the one selling the domains But I feel like if God was going to register a domain on Earth, he would definitely consider Hover.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I don't know what he would choose. I can't speak for him and I will not pretend to because something bad could happen to me. This is where I get in trouble with my authorities that we understand you've been using God for commercial purposes again, Tim. Just to clarify, that God thing came purely from Brady and also was not true. But the hover.com slash I may thing is true.
Starting point is 00:35:13 So go and check them out. This is the point normally where we would announce some winners of some of our Patreon supporters who are going to get things like our Australian Nut Leather Key Rings, Sp spoon of the week, all that good stuff. But because of our lack of preparation, I haven't actually fired up the computer that has the algorithm and all the machinery in it that I need to pick the winners. So no winners in this episode, but we'll give some extra stuff out in the next episode. Go to patreon.com slash unmade FM if you'd like to be in the running.
Starting point is 00:35:46 But I've got the guitar and everything. Oh, you've got the guitar to go with it. Well, Tim's got the guitar that he normally strums when I read the winners. So, Tim, do you want to just give us a few? What are you playing at the moment? What's your favourite song at the moment that you've been? I don't... I'm not that I'm playing.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I've been playing around with something that I wrote, you know, that I keep plucking. Really? Well, would you like to play that to us another time maybe? No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Come on, give us a little tease. Let me name something that you hate. My guitar playing.
Starting point is 00:36:28 No, never. Give us a little taste. No, that's not right. Yeah. There's the strangest problem that when Tim and I record, and I don't actually know why this is yet, because I will hear that guitar playing when you send me the Audacity file after we finish. But for some reason, I can't hear your guitar playing on Zoom.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I don't know if it's something to do with frequencies or there's some Zoom setting that doesn't let you play music over Zoom or what it is. But whenever you sit there and play guitar, I can't hear it now, but I will hear it later. So I'll have to give you my feedback on your bit of music later. That's probably for the best. I'll be long gone that's good can i just say the um the new leather key rings the unmade key rings that you showed me last time which look amazing you said you were putting in the mail is mine in the mail like it hasn't arrived yet no it won't have arrived yet it went in the mail? Like it hasn't arrived yet. No, it won't have arrived yet. It went in the post yesterday. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'm so looking forward to that. That's something you can get if you're a patron supporter. So, peeps, we want to encourage you to join up as a patron supporter. It's the kind of thing you can win. Oh, yeah, Australian nut. I'm heaps looking forward to that.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Look at that. Look at that. Tim doing a bit of promotion there. That's not that you. Yep. That's it. On behalf of God and myself, these are really amazing key rings. I don't know if God needs a key ring, but if he did, he did have the key. What are the keys that Jesus fought the devil for or something?
Starting point is 00:38:18 The keys to the kingdom. If there's a key ring for the keys to the kingdom, they will be the Australian nut-coloured, unmade podcast leather key ring. Yeah, that's right. Imagine that. Imagine getting to heaven and, like, God walking past with the keys to the kingdom
Starting point is 00:38:33 and, like, they're on one of our Australian nut leather key rings. What an endorsement that would be. It'll be all too late, but it will be pretty amazing. Yeah, well, yeah, maybe. Oh, should we do an Oon of the Week? Oh, that's what I was going to ask. Yeah, we haven't done... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:50 So I also didn't have much time to prepare an Oon of the Week, but I will throw you a bone if you want one. Do you want one? Yeah, I do. Absolutely. All right, here we go. So today it's time for Harpoon of the Week. Who doesn't love a good harpoon?
Starting point is 00:39:11 Oh, man. Every week I look forward to the Harpoon of the Week. What is it this week, Brady? Today, I want to talk about the anchoring harpoons on the Philae spacecraft that landed on a comet in 2014. This little space probe went down, landed on this comet, Comet 67P Churyumov-Gerasimenko. Right. That's a catchy comet name, that one. So, it went down, this little gadget to land on on this comet which is a pretty audacious thing to try and it had these harpoons that were supposed to fire so
Starting point is 00:39:50 when it landed on the sort of rocky gravelly icy comma these harpoons were like gonna fire into the surface to keep the thing anchored in in place and they failed the harpoons failed. The harpoons failed. The space harpoons. They would have become like, of all the harpoons in history, they would have become megastars. But on the big stage, they didn't fire. And as a result, this spacecraft actually bounced off the comet and went back and then bounced a second time off the comet and then went back down. And then it did end up landing on the comet, not where it was supposed to land in a bit of a less ideal place because of the failed harpoons.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Did a bit of science. Everything ended happily, except for the people who made the harpoons. Apparently, there were 0.3 grams of nitrocellulose that were supposed to have something to do with the harpoon propulsion to probably fire them out into the rock. And apparently nitrocellulose is quite unreliable in the vacuum of space, they learned. And that's probably why the harpoons failed. So not every harpoon can be a champion.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And these harpoons, you know, they let us down they failed but now they made it onto harpoon of the week so all's well that ends well can i just say the failed harpoons is a great name for a band i just love this oh yes nice the failed harpoons imagine if that was the name of your band someone's like why do you call yourself that well let me tell you about the fillet spacecraft the failed harpoons no there's a nice song called harpoon actually in the rock genre by the band jebediah in australia it's a nice song okay and it's it's really lovely but it's a very like it's a sad one.
Starting point is 00:41:47 It's like, you know, I love her, but she doesn't really. Like, it starts off, this will take some explaining, but I think you will agree there's no use pretending there's any hope for you and me. And then he goes on, like a harpoon, like a harpoon in my heart. It's like every time I hear harpoon, that song comes to mind. Well, maybe that could be harpoon of the week next time. Maybe. Maybe, yeah. There, maybe that could be harpoon of the week next time. Maybe. Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:07 There's many, so many harpoons. So little time. How many harpoons did it take? Did Moby Dick get killed by harpoons? I've not read Moby Dick. No, neither have I. And I've now said harpoon enough times that the word harpoon seems really strange to me. Harpoon.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Do they think harpoons get called poons for short? Pass me a poon for short pass me a poon or pass me a harp ideas for a podcast what do you got tim all right we've stalled long enough it's time to get to the the crazy idea now look i want to say my my in the spirit of the the spontaneity of the episode i want to say that i i have several different categories on my notes, on my Apple device, and one of them is podcast ideas, which has been going for a long, long time. And then another one is films to see. And there is two lists in here.
Starting point is 00:42:58 One is called kids and then another one's called not kids. This is the films. There are two lists of films that i make films that i think of i must show the kids that film but most and then other ones are like i must show my wife that film or we must see that film i must make a note have you have you seen most of these films or are they ones you haven't seen they are a mix they are a mix the ones with not kids i've not seen they're ones that we should go and see, right? But the kids ones consist of films that I just want to show them as soon as possible, but then other films that they're not quite ready for, but I don't want to, you know what I mean? Forget.
Starting point is 00:43:40 When they get there. Because they're not old enough, like, because they're a bit more. That's right. They're slightly beyond where they are. As we say, you know, it's not quite for young kids just yet. On the list, on that list of films that your kids aren't quite ready for, what's the one that's furthest in the distance? Like, what's the one that they least are ready to watch?
Starting point is 00:44:01 I'm curious to know how advanced this gets. It's not, it's not it's not probably um or probably the film the power of one which there's a bit of violence in the south africa apartheid that sort of stuff so okay so you haven't got like clockwork orange on there and stuff like that oh no it's not like. It's not like when they grow up. It's like for their kid's stage of life or their young adult. I've got Donnie Darko on there, but I actually haven't seen that myself either. So that's sort of got a special asterisk next. Oh, it's in bold.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, there's a few. Actually, there's one here that's been tried and abandoned, and that's Weekend at Bernie's. There's one here that's been tried and abandoned, and that's Weekend at Bernie's. That was. Is that because that was a little bit too sexy? It's funny how, yeah, there's films where you remember it as all fun and endearing, and then when you're actually watching, you're going,
Starting point is 00:44:57 oh, heck, oh, no, all right, look away now, kids. All right, look away now. Right. Look away. And then finally my wife's voice goes, I think we can watch something else, can't we? Because there is a scene where the deceased Bernie has relations with a lady, isn't there?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Oh, I don't think we even got that far. But, yeah, anyway. There's also here Police Academy 2. I don't know why I've not just written Police Academy, but for some reason I've written Police Academy 2 when there's like eight of them. I don't want to interrupt our own conversation here, man, but what's your podcast idea?
Starting point is 00:45:36 I'm getting back to that. That's the other list. I just thought I'd mention it. Films I want to show my kids is a great podcast idea, and now that I've got like a baby who's one year old, I'm already having that massive impatience that he's not old enough to watch all the films he needs to watch. Oh, and that's right.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And there's so many cool kids' films. Obviously, the Star Wars stuff came in pretty early, and it was such a joy to show my kids that. But you're forever thinking of something, and then you're just thinking at their age and making calculations and then it goes on the list like, oh, that's a little bit down the track. But there's Chocolat here. For the kids?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, but it's kind of there's a kid in it, but again, that's a bit adult-y, isn't it? The other one I've got here is Titanic. They're too young for Titanic. How come? The trauma, lots of people die, all that kind of stuff. They won't do that very well. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Oh, and there's a bit of nudie rudie and a bit of romance in the back of a car too, isn't there? Oh, that's right, yeah. But that's, I mean, that's one sort of, you know, look away scene, kids or something like that. Okay. The whole, you might remember. Look away while dad stares intently.
Starting point is 00:46:41 You might remember that. Look away while Dad stares intently. You might remember the ship goes down, man, and, like, everyone dies pretty much. Yeah, I guess. But they must know about the Titanic. They must know there was a ship back in the olden days that hit an iceberg and loads of people died. Yes, but they also know that people get shot.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But it doesn't mean I say, hey, kids, gather around the TV. We're going to watch someone get shot. I guess, yeah. There's something different about that. I think they deal with all that death quite well in Titanic. Like, it's not gruesome. No, no, no, no. Look, I haven't just made this list tonight.
Starting point is 00:47:21 This is a list that's been growing for a while. So, perhaps they're getting a bit closer to that and, you know what I mean? Yeah. And some others. All right. So there's the Pursuit of Happiness here, the Will Smith movie, which I think will be kind of endearing for them. Father of the Bride 2.
Starting point is 00:47:38 We watched Father of the Bride 1 and they really quite liked that. So I just put on Must Watch Number 2. I think my wife watched Father of the Bride the night before we got married. Oh, really? Oh, classic. With their girlfriends. Have they seen BMX Bandits? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I should revisit that because they were pretty young when I got them into that. Yeah. I like the idea of a podcast about films I want to show my kids. Is that what your idea was? Well, yeah, that's why I'm telling you this, yeah. It's sort of like things that are, I think there's interesting, there's like where you are now, right, with your son, there's a massive list of stuff that you're going to show him.
Starting point is 00:48:13 And then as time goes on, there's a bit of a judgment call about when's the right time. And I love how I timed Star Wars with my eldest daughter, like perfectly, but it was a bit beyond the youngest one. But it was so wonderful to be sitting there watching the trilogy, the original trilogy, and then like when the big reveal comes with Empire Strikes Back with Darth Vader and to literally be looking at her at the moment when she goes, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Like, wow, that's great. The penny just dropped in that moment. That's pretty cool. That's a lovely little moment. But the other one's never really gotten into it. So I sort of mistimed it and stuffed it up there. Yeah. Indiana Jones went down well, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:56 but we're not Temple of Doom. Temple of Doom's too dark. Raiders of the Lost Ark's got some pretty full-on stuff in it for kids. You showed them that. Yeah. Yeah, we watched Raiders. Yep. That was all right.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I asked the littlest one to look away right at the end, you know, with the scene where their faces fall apart and stuff. What about at the start where the guy gets spikes through him? You know, he takes the idol from Indiana Jones, and then a few seconds later Indiana finds him and he's, like, triggered the spikes and he's been killed. That's quite graphic and scary. No, no, no no that's all fine that's fine this is the second episode in a row that we're talking about that scene in raiders of the lost ark what about the guy um getting done by the
Starting point is 00:49:35 propeller getting chopped up by the propeller when he's having the boxing match with indiana yeah no that's cool i like that that was like that was all sort of god oh maybe i asked the little one to turn away for that. And yet you won't let them watch Titanic where a few people die in icy water. It's the big story of Titanic. It's all about that. It's a slow-moving train wreck.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Well, to use a metaphor that's not quite as bad as a slow-moving massive ship of people sinking. But maybe it's time to test out Titanic on sea. No, no, no. Don't let me make your kids scared of, you know, sea travel forever because Brady rushed Titanic. But do you have a movie from your childhood or, you know, your younger times that you just think is incredible that your wife
Starting point is 00:50:19 completely hates and it's like a sticking point between you? Look, it is like that with the with the star wars trilogy it's not that i sit around amazed at the star wars trilogy now but she has total and utter disinterest and in them you know whatsoever so that's i sort of go i don't even want to watch it you know kind of with the kids and no no she's not it's like that's my job so i'll tell you two we we have two movies while you think about it yeah one of them is a one of them is a film that is like actually not a very good film but i quite liked it and she hates it so because so it's a bit of a joke how we have different
Starting point is 00:50:56 opinions on it and that is meet joe black with brad pitt oh yeah i quite like it yeah i liked it but she doesn't but the other one that I love and I can't believe she doesn't is The Princess Bride. Oh, right, okay. Because that seems like a film like everyone grew up with and everyone loves and we're similar ages and I just thought she would have grown up with it and loved it like me. But I don't think she bonded with it as a kid and didn't see it
Starting point is 00:51:19 until she was an adult and she doesn't get it. She doesn't get why everyone loves it and I just think it's like just fantastic. I didn't get why everyone loves it. And I just think it's like just fantastic. I didn't bond with it as a child. You showed it to me the first time when we were teenagers. Right. But I guess I was younger. Like I loved it.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Like I was really enjoying it and really, really loving it and laughing with it. And so I can see the value of it. It's not a heart movie, though, for me in the same way that it is for you. And that like the Black Stallion for me was when I was a really little kid, but even I've watched that later and got a bit bored with it. Did you show your kids The Princess Bride? Oh, yeah. No, they've seen that multiple times.
Starting point is 00:51:54 No, they love it. Yeah, they love it for sure. It's difficult. These are the challenges of relationships. What do you have? Have you got any kind of – have you just got a mental list prepared or have you got – have you staggered out the years ahead? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I mean, I'm not a big preparer and list maker anyway at the best of times, so I certainly haven't done that. But I really hope he gets into Star Wars because I've been buying up a lot of Star Wars Lego sets and I have them all in storage and there's no way I'm going to make them. I haven't got time. So I'm imagining, make them. I haven't got time. So, I'm imagining, as we've discussed before, I'm hoping for that day where I'd like open up the storage locker and say, look at all of this.
Starting point is 00:52:32 But if he watches the Star Wars movies and doesn't like them, then all this Star Wars Lego is going to be like, it's going to be a lot less of a treasure trove for him. I mean, they are kids movies. So, if he's going to watch them as a kid, he's going to like them. No one ever as a kid goes, you know, if you don't get it as a kid he's gonna like them no one ever as a kid goes you know if you don't get it as a kid you can reject it as an adult but you know i'm presuming you're not going to wait that long you know how we sent through a birthday gift the other day and a little card for um your son yeah i did have the thought of somehow through a gift in future years smuggling a secret message to him about your massive lego stash like somehow you know hiding it inside a toy or writing it underneath you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:53:13 somewhere so that when he opens it up later on playing one day and it suddenly says ask your dad about his massive lego stash or something so that he comes and getting through a secret message i mean i don't know how long that he comes and getting through a secret message. I mean, I don't know how long I'm going to keep it a secret from him. I don't think I'm going to be able to keep it a secret for too long, too excited about it. If you could get the tone right, I don't know how you'd do it, but part of the beauty of this idea also is discussing your kids, like, why you think they're ready for it, why they're
Starting point is 00:53:42 not ready for it. Like, that's quite interesting in itself. Like, you know, it'd be hard to get right because you've got to respect their privacy and stuff like that and, you know. But if it was done right, it is interesting to discuss why you think the kids aren't ready for this one yet. What is it about that film? What is it about the film that does make them ready now?
Starting point is 00:54:00 What's happening in their life that you think, okay, now they're ready for this film because this has happened in their life and I want them to understand this and these lessons they'll learn and it's quite an uh it's quite an interesting interesting topic it is particularly because their passions and interests are so different so they're really like one sense of humors doesn't match the other one and but one likes to watch shows that matches the sense of humor of the other one but for that one they don't like it so much. It's really hard to predict, but you get a feel after a while, oh, okay, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And it's connected to, oh, because we were watching that together on that day when they were sick and maybe it goes from there. So there's all sorts of reasons why they end up with their interests. They're so fascinating. They're just wonderful. I just love them so much. They're amazing machines. They're so fascinating. All right. They're just wonderful. I just love them so much. They're amazing machines. They're amazing machines.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Well, this is normally the point where I would say, did you remember the secret words? But you've done it. I feel so on top of the world. Yeah. Job done. It's all good. Well done.

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