The Unmade Podcast - 132: A Treat for Everyone

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

Tim and Brady and Mrs Hein discuss combs, the Unmade Showbag, first-timers, another moon of Uranus, obscure songs, sticks, and baby names. Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/16nh5a1 Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures - https://www.youtube.com/@unmadepodcast USEFUL LINKS The Unmade Podcast Showbag - https://posh-as-cushions.myshopify.com/products/the-unmade-showbag Pictures from Tim’s visit to The Showbag Hall this year - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-132-pictures Bonus video footage from the Showbag Hall for Patrons - https://www.patreon.com/posts/89551128 Showbags on Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showbag Mrs Hein Milo Mug - https://the-unmade-podcast.creator-spring.com/listing/milo-with-mrs-hein-mug Picture of the $49 Sunflower Art for Patrons - https://www.patreon.com/posts/89551128 Like a Virgin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Like_a_Virgin_(song) Oberon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_(moon) December by Kim Beales - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yatz1un7Ve0 Ballad of the Babypants by Caspar Babypants - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy58F_-9cSw

You've done your hair for the podcast this morning, which is not something you always do. What's different? Are you all showered and have you been out in the world already? Yeah, usually I record the podcast before I've had a shower, but I have had a shower because we're a bit later today. So you just happen to see me after I've had a shower and brushed my hair. I haven't done it for the podcast. I've done it for like life. I appreciate the effort. That's great so you've have you do you use a comb or a brush to I do use it I do use a comb so it looks combed when it's just been done but then it won't look combed in like you know 10-15 minutes it'll just sort of flop around a bit but

at the moment it looks a bit combed do you think the generation has passed that carried a permanent comb in their pocket you know how there's an old man kind of you pull out the comb and flick it through your hair do you reckon that's a generational thing yeah i think that's past i think the days of fonzie yeah his hair like with a comb in his leather jacket has passed i don't carry a comb with me do you carry a comb with you no no i haven't seen a comb for years no i just no but i think it used to be standard issue you know your wallet and a comb and a pen um you know that was a kind of thing your dad carried a comb definitely definitely come yeah yeah yeah in his top breast pocket yeah yeah he had a hell of a lot it was

like a filing cabinet up there he'd have his glasses in there, a pen and a comb. His little black book. Little black book. That's right. I don't use that at all, that top pocket. But yeah, that was a big one for my dad, big filing cabinet. And he was also a big one for the short sleeve shirt, like the collared shirt but with short sleeves. Oh, yeah.

Which is also not know you know not something you see as much of these days no no the sipperwitz look the detective sipperwitz sipperwitz is not what i was thinking of when i was thinking of your dad but i i get where you're coming from yeah yeah i was thinking more david attenborough when i think of your dad yeah yeah same fashion but different lifestyle and personality that's for sure so we have something big to talk about and i think we want to do it up top totally it's kind of going to lead to some merch but i think this is more like an art installation or a major project than merch it's sort of it sort of goes beyond that a bit

but to do it first we have to talk about something we've talked about before on the show something both you and i love we'll recap what it is for those who aren't familiar with it and that is the show bag are there people that don't know what a show bag is perhaps if they don't have a show or a fate but aren't people outside australia they don't know what a show bag is, perhaps if they don't have a show or a fate. But aren't people outside Australia? They don't do show bags anywhere else, really? I don't think so. It's a pretty uniquely Australian thing, I think. The show bag.

Wow. OK. All right. I didn't appreciate that. So to set the scene, people, I know we've talked about this before, but we have to quickly do it again. So everyone's on the same page. The big cities around Australia and even some of the country towns have these annual shows. And they're sort of a combination of like a farm agricultural show, an art and craft type show where people show their wares.

You know, who's got the best cow, who's got the best sheep, who's knitted the best blanket and things like that. But it's also a bit of a fun fair and there'll be rides and uh you know roller coasters and merry-go-rounds and there's all sorts of entertainment it's this huge extravaganza that happens once a year but and it's called the the royal show so i believe the royal adelaide show is is it still on at the moment tim or is it finished it just finished on two days ago three or three days okay yeah so the royal adelaide show has just happened in adelaide the adelaide version before it moves on to wherever it goes next but a big part of it are these things called show bags they started off in the olden days as sample bags where

you would go around and collect little samples from different vendors but then they evolved into these things called show bags which is a lot more commercial. And you go into a big hall, sort of auditorium type complex, and there'll be all these stands and stalls selling these plastic bags, these show bags for different brands. So there'll be a Coca Cola show bag, a Mars bar show bag, a Barbie show bag, and you pay your money. And in the bag, there'll be all sorts of different goodies, and pieces bits of swag or merch you've just done the show bag hole a few days ago didn't you tim oh yeah yeah it's it's it's a it's a sight to see because it's packed i mean it's a massive massive shed and um is it still in the hamilton hall that used to always be in the hamilton hall at the wave will show grounds in my day the hamilton hall is where you wanted to go. Is it still the Hamilton Hall?

I don't know. I think the showgrounds have changed a fair bit since you've not lived here. There's a lot of big new pavilions and things. Okay. Because it's also where there's major exhibitions and, you know what I mean, like the big caravanning exhibition. So it's a bit more of a new build kind of place rather than ye olde um okay agricultural because just the just the term hamilton hall would stir excitement in me because if when you're going to hamilton hall

you knew you were going to the the pavilion where the show bags were but you weren't my parents wouldn't take me there till the very end so you'd walk past on the way to going to have to look at the cows and the wood chopping and stuff like that but all you wanted to do was go to the hamilton hall so you could buy your show bags at the end of the day. For us, the ritual is that we go there last because you've got to carry them around if you buy them first. So generally it's the thing you buy last and then you head home from there. I mean, let's be honest, like show bags, you know,

like I feel weird explaining it because they're just so, they're so there, but they're also so international. So I remember as a kid in Tarelgon had the country show getting the Knight Rider show bag. So I just assume, I mean, Knight Rider is an American TV show. So obviously all of America would be buying American Knight Rider TV. I'm sure they're not a big thing, man. I'm sure it's an Australian thing. Wow.

In fact, if you go onto Wikipedia, let me go onto wikipedia for a second here and it says a show bag is a theme a themed bag of commercial products novelty items and promotional merchandise usually made available for purchase it is a distinctive feature of australian agricultural shows the australian equivalent of state fairs or traveling carnivals where they are sold from stalls they can also be found at exhibitions festivals and fundraising events show bags are unique to australia it says on wikipedia golly gosh that's so funny that a whole entity a whole product is there that's so massively popular with children but it's nowhere else my i remember using my own money the first show bag i bought with my own money was the rambo show bag yep like the rambo ultraviolet american blockbuster um and then i'm in country victoria buying you know like a

little bow and arrow and all sorts i think when you're young the toy show bags appeal to you more i remember getting the fall guy show bag oh yeah fall guy tv show the night rider show bag of course uh as you get older though i think I think you evolve more towards wanting the food and sugary sweets and crisps and drinks type show bags. Did you move that in that direction? I did. I did. But then I, but only into, like, I remember getting the iced coffee show bag. I always wanted to know it was a good deal. So, in other words, if I went to the supermarket and pulled all these items together would i get if i bought them in the show bag would it be um more cost efficient than buying them separately yeah so it feels like it's you're getting a good deal by getting them all together

i'm not sure that's strictly true anymore to be honest having been a veteran of the last 10 years of show bags can you give us a little taste of uh which show bags the uh the Heinz went for this year well no no to be honest there was a little bit of the we've moved to the teenage stage of not getting a show bag this year so it was a it was a yeah it was an interesting moment but the just the word was that that came after pretty careful discerning through the catalogue in the weeks beforehand that there was nothing that was good enough no value no because of course yes the local newspaper would print the show bag guide a few weeks in advance which had all the show bags listed and itemized what was in them yeah and young kids like me would go through that guide like for weeks deciding you know listing what your your favorite 20 show bags were and taking them to

your parents and your parents saying well you're not getting 20 show bags so you'd have to whittle it down to 10 and then you'd take that to your parents and your parents would say well you're not getting 10 show bags no until you finally got it to like maybe the three or four that you most wanted but but deciding on the value and what you wanted was, it was a big job. And let me tell you, like no punter on the horse racing form guide spent more time with a pen hovered over carefully analysing the contents of every bag. Anyway, anyway, I know we've talked about show bags before, people. I think one of our podcast ideas was like your dream show bag, like, you know, what would be in your dream show bag. Oh, yeah. So anyway, that brings us to the special project we've been working on.

And this has come from Tim. Tim wanted to do this. I actually had some reluctance for various reasons, but Tim pushed for it and it's happened. Tell us about your idea initially, Tim, and then we'll talk about what we've done. I have to say that this idea didn't originate with me. It originated from one of my daughters.

And that shows that certainly show bags were on the mind a few weeks ago. The idea has arisen to have an unmade podcast show bag available for civilians to purchase. And which I thought, that's a genius idea and immediately launched me into thinking through what things would we put in an unmade podcast show bag so the unmade podcast show bag is going to be a thing but i don't think tim appreciated the amount of work involved uh particularly at my end because i'm the one who would have to do it all. So rather than make this like a mass product, which is just too much work,

we're going to make it a very exclusive product. Remember like back in the day there would occasionally be like the really expensive show bag, like the $1,000 show bag, and it would make headlines and it would have like high-end items in it, like jewellery and stuff like that. It would be like for adults. Yeah, I don't remember that at all. We didn't have those in Terrell, I'm going to have to say. No, no.

We've gone high-end. This is going to be a high-end show bag. And I've come up with a bit of an interesting idea around the pricing too, which I'll share with you in a moment. But we're going to make this the ultimate unmade podcast item. So you have an unmade podcast bespoke bag. And in it, we're going to have a bit of everything. I'll tell you some of the things that are in it before we come to some very special things that are in it.

It will have, of course, the Australian nut leather key ring. An unmade podcast bespoke metal spoon. A Tim Hine autograph guitar plectrum. The unmade podcast Shopping List Notebook. A full, complete set of Spoon of the Week collector cards. The whole set in one box. Mic drop. Which is nigh impossible to get your hands on.

A Sofa Shop Pin. A Big Rocking Horse Fridge Magnet magnet which tim specially went and got a couple of weeks ago and has mailed to me some sweet treats including minties of course fan tails and a sachet of milo powder to make your very own milo drink oh wow there will also be a a few other bits of merch that i have lying around associated with my other podcasts. I might just toss some of them in the bag just for fun, just to show our love. But the showpiece item, the thing you really want, is going to be a very special Unmade Podcast branded USB stick.

And on that USB stick will be some very special media. It will include me doing a Lego build just for you. Each one will be unique. So you will get me building something out of Lego just for you. Even people getting the other show bag won't have the same one. Just for you. And best of all, Tim, tell us what you've been working on. It's been a dream of mine to one day be able to accurately say to someone, hey, I'm recording an album. And lately I've come as close as I'm ever going to come to that.

I've been recording 10 songs, one of which will be in each show bag. Have we said there's 10 yet? Sorry, man, I should go back. There is. We have now. There are 10. Tim has revealed there will be 10. Tim has recorded 10 songs, singing, playing on guitar, and one of each song will go on each show bag.

So if you get one of these show bags, you will have a unique performance that only you can hear of Tim singing and playing. These aren't songs he's written, by the way. They're already famous songs. I've heard a few of them, and they are quite a treat. Look, and they are quite a treat they look and this is they are unique i will not be including on these on any of my other albums these songs are special

covers that are only for these show bags never to be repeated yeah so this is this is going to be something very special you want to get your hands on. It's impossible to know how to price something like this because it's absolutely priceless. It is. A unique Lego build, a unique song, bits of merch that usually aren't even sold, only given away under special circumstances. This is a, I have to say it, a once in a lifetime opportunity. Or at least once a year, maybe. I don't know so tim i've come up with an idea for pricing that i think you will appreciate all right i want to run a tim's dad was dutch auction do you know what a dutch auction is this is a reverse auction

isn't it is that right you started a price and move back that's right you start the price high and you drop it continually until people say, all right, I'm in. I'm going to grab it before someone else does. So we're going to have 10 of these. They're going to start with a high, high price and I'm regularly going to drop them. As a dedication to Tim's dad,

who some people may not realise was Dutch, we're going to run a Tim's dad was Dutch auction to offload these show bags. Hello. Hey, mum. Oh, look who's walked in. Hey, come through. Who is it?

This is, well, you tell me who it is. You come and sit down and you tell me who it is. We've had an interruption to our show bag news because Tim's mum has arrived at the church. Take the hearing aid out. That's it. Take the hearing aid out. Oh, that's Brady. It's me.

Yeah. Hello. Hi. out. Oh, that's Brady. It's me. Yeah. Hello. Hi. Hi. How are you? Oh, no. It's me. You can see me. I can see you. How are you?

Hi. I'm good. Yeah, having lots of fun. Yeah. And busy. Yes. What are you doing tonight? Why are you there at Tim's church? We're having lots of fun. Yeah. And busy. Yes. What are you doing tonight? Why are you there at Tim's church? Well, we have a prayer night every Wednesday night.

Yeah. And we pray for the community. Yeah. And then, yeah, that's every Wednesday night. Is there anything specific you're going to be praying for tonight? We've just been praying. for tonight we've we've just been praying we're praying for um oh all these things that are going on in the world at the moment floods and yeah earthquakes when we pray for all those people and we pray for people in our church that are sick of course not well yeah yeah so um and pray for one another tim and i were just talking about show bags did you buy any show bags at the show this year oh yes i did better hunt i always get

my better homes and garden show you got the better homes and gardens show bag what do you get in that show bag i always get that one because that's got some goodies in it, you know, real things. What was in it? Oh, lots of things, you know. Can you remember any? Lots of brown rice but lots of sweets and. Yeah, sweets and brown rice.

Sounds amazing. Oh, lots of other things. It has a magazine in there as well. Oh, yes. Yes, of course, the Better Homes and Gardens magazine. Oh, lots of other things. It has a magazine in there as well. Oh, yes. Yes, of course, the Better Homes and Gardens magazine. Oh, yeah. Terrific magazine. You can just buy a show bag to have brown rice.

No, no, magazines and I'm trying to think now what was in there. Was there any make-up or anything like beautician related? No, no, there wasn't anything of that um false teeth so so so mrs hein tim and i are making our very own show bag for our podcast oh are you yeah so there's going to be all sorts of things to do with the podcast in there so um do you think you might be interested in buying that show bag what sort of things to do with the podcast in there. So do you think you might be interested in buying that show bag? What sort of things are going to be in it? One of the mugs?

We haven't talked about a mug. We could do a mug. I use my mug all the time. Yes. Milo with Mrs. Hyne. The Milo one. Yes. I had a Milo with Mrs. Hyne mug.

Yeah, I use that all the time. We're going to put some Milo in the show bag so people can make their own Milo. Oh, great. I'll buy a show bag. How much are're going to put some Milo in the show bag so people can make their own Milo. Oh, great. I'll buy a show bag. How much are you going to charge? Well, it's interesting you say that. We're going to sell it using something called a Dutch auction. Do you know what a Dutch auction is?

A Dutch auction is when you start with a high price and no one bids, and then you make it go lower and lower and lower until someone says, okay, that's the price I'm willing to pay. So it's sort of like an auction that goes backwards. I thought you might know because it was Dutch. No, no. I'm not Dutch. I'm an Aussie. I just learned from Barry.

I know, but you knew a Dutch guy pretty well. Ah, yes, and I really miss him. Yeah. Do you know what we had the other night at church? When we had the quiz night, we had a silent auction. Did Tim tell you about it? He told me there was a quiz night. He didn't tell me about the auction.

Oh, yeah, it was great. Two tables were full of goods that different firms had donated. Yep. And an artist donated this beautiful picture of a sunflower with the writing beside, You Are My Sunshine. And I thought, oh, I'd like to buy that. So I bid. So it's a silent, so you write your name and how much on a piece of paper.

So I bid $40. Yep. name and how much on a piece of paper yeah so i bid um 40 dollars yeah because i had some money that i was given for my birthday because i loved it i loved sunflower and then someone else came along and put their name and put 45 oh and i thought oh i really want this picture because it was a local artist that did it. It's beautiful. When you come, you'll see it up my house. Oh, I know the result of the auction then. Spoilers.

So I put $49 and I got it. Oh, $49. I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to see it. It's a beautiful picture. Why did you write $49 and not a beautiful picture Why did you write 49 and not 50? Why did you go up? Why did you go from 45 to 49?

Well, I don't really know really I was thinking of 50 I'm not really sure I put 49 So if he'd be, I would have put 50, you know I would have kept going So I got it, yeah I can't wait to see it i can't wait to see it yeah you'll love my little place i can't wait to come and visit you it will be there in

november and we're going to come and see you i know i was thinking the other day i better warn brady it's small wow that's okay i'm not planning sleep there. I just want to come and have a look. Brady will probably stay with his family, Mum, so you won't get to spend that much time with him. Yeah. All right. All right. You can pop in and out, yeah. Oh, definitely.

I'll definitely pop in, and I hope you'll come and visit us too at the house we're staying at and come and have lunch with us. Ah, that would be wonderful. Well, thanks for talking to me. This was a treat. This was special. Ah, that'd be wonderful. Well, thank you for talking. Thanks for talking to me. This was a treat. This was special. It was a treat for everyone. See you.

Thank you very much. Bye. See you soon. All right. See you soon. All right. Okay. All right.

See you. All right. Security. Bye-bye. Security, we're going to need some coffee. There you go. Thanks, we're going to need to call you. There you go. Thanks, Mum. Wonderful.

Bye-bye. Bye. That was something new. I've never done that before. Yeah. I need to keep going, recording the podcast. That's what we're doing now, so you need to go. All right.

See you. Bye. Bye. all right see ya bye bye mom's mom's walking off singing you are my sunshine you know um before this episode i put a little message on our patreon saying is there anything anyone wants us to talk about and i was going to bring some of those talking points up later i still might although we have a lot less time now um but but one of the things that was requested was can you do a wholesome section can you do something wholesome on the podcast because we love it when you guys go wholesome i think we've well and truly delivered that's right wonderful and uh i also think we've pretty much finished talking about the show bag So have a look at the links There'll be links and information available

If you want to enter this sort of Dutch auction We don't have to enter it You just have to go to the website And wait till it's a price you're happy with Watch it, stand by When's all this happening, Brady? Are we all ready to go? Yeah, we're ready to roll

Hopefully I'll have the link ready with this podcast So although i don't know what all tim's songs are yet because one of the things i was thinking of doing was as people like beard as people buy the bags so there'll be a first person and a second person a third person i was thinking of letting those people in that order choose their tim song so if you're the person, you can choose from the 10 songs, which one of Tim's songs do you want? And if you're, you know, so the last person has no choice, but as we go down the list, you have more and more choice. So incentive?

I don't know. Wow. That's a good idea. Yes. Yes. So people certainly can avoid songs that they think, oh, heck no. Best not hear Tim singing that one. No.

Yes. Do you want to tell people some of the songs you've recorded so far? Avoid songs that they think, oh, heck no. Best not hear Tim singing that one. No, yes. Do you want to tell people some of the songs you've recorded so far? Well, I have to say there's a couple of, I'll give them two, two of them. One of them is a classic Bon Jovi song, Wanted Dead or Alive, which is, you know. I haven't heard that one yet. No, no, no. That's just, I just said that to you before oh uh that's that's i'm pretty happy with that there's some you know tricky little fingering

on the guitar with that and so i've had to bring out my axe playing chops pretty heavily for that one uh i also moved into a dead into a version of uh the wonderful song made more famous by Whitney Houston, I Will Always Love You. And I have to say that was a vocal challenge. Met and exceeded, I would say. Fantastic rendition. I'll tell you my one takeaway from listening to the songs, Tim, and that is you actually are a little bit better at playing

the guitar than I thought oh thank you well that's great yeah thank you yeah you notice you didn't mention the singing but no that's fair I mean we've all heard your singing I mean we can't stop you singing so uh anyway uh keep keep an eye out people showbag.info is a website I'm working on as well if you want to go straight to it, if you don't want to go to a link in the description. But keep an eye out for it. It's lots of fun. Most of the songs are sort of my favourite songs to do. So songs I've played a lot for myself and now I'm sharing.

I was going to say sharing with the world, but I'm not sharing them with the world. I'm sharing them with an individual person. One person. It's a serenade. It's a virtual serenade. Yeah, okay. Let's not push into that idea too much. And I might share some information later on about what Lego builds I'll be doing as well.

They'll be at the smaller end of the spectrum, by the way. They're not going to be like eight hour builds. A Lego serenade. What are we going to do next? Should we do a podcast idea? I'm still recovering from Mrs. Hine. Sorry, I'm a bit, my head's spinning. She can be a bit overwhelming.

She hit me with all those prayer bombs. There's nothing that makes you feel like a worse person than hearing what Mrs. Hine did with her evening. I'm here trying to flog show bags and she's been praying for the victims of floods. Here comes my idea for a podcast. Yeah. Now, parental advisory warning.

The title I've given this podcast, I think is fine, but it's a little bit edgy. Oh, okay. So if you've got young ears, I think it's okay but you might want to skip forward a couple of minutes. We'll see, we'll see. We'll talk it through. Well, I tell you, that's got everyone listening. Yeah.

No chance of people skipping now. This is where we do a hover ad. This is where we do a hover ad. This is... So the idea has the name, the working title, which may yet be changed, of Like a Virgin. Oh, man. We've gone from Auntie Dore, we've gone from Mrs. Hynde to Like a Virgin in a matter of minutes.

My ears are burning. Like a Virgin in a matter of minutes. My ears are burning. Like A Virgin. The idea for this podcast is that it is not sexy in any way, but the idea is that it is recordings of people trying things for the first time. Oh, yeah, right, yeah. So someone riding a bike for the first time in their life, going on a plane for the first time in their life, going on a plane for the first time in their life, going and seeing ballet for the first time in their life.

And I thought Like A Virgin was quite a clever name for that because, of course, that has the meaning. I mean, the business Virgin, Richard Branson's business, was called Virgin because him and his business partner were new at business and didn't know what they were doing. It was their first time. So they called their business Virgin. So I'm going more for that kind of meaning rather than maybe the meaning Madonna was

going for. Very well-known 80s song, but good idea. Whatever the name, good idea. All right. You could also call it First Timer, you know, something like that. But I just thought, I just liked, I disliked, I disliked my, I disliked that name. I just thought it was a clever name because it sort of subverted expectations a bit. Well, and it already exists as such a massive song.

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And as I've said before on the Unmade Podcast, song titles are always a good idea for podcast titles. Hmm.

What, do you have an example? I mean, you've given us a couple, but something in particular yourself that you think would be the pilot episode? What's something I haven't done? I've never ridden a penny-farthing bicycle, and I've never ridden a tandem bicycle. It was riding bicycles last week that got me thinking about it because we took our little boy for his first ride on a bicycle.

On the back, by the way. He's only 15 months old, so he wasn't riding it. No, right. his first ride on a bicycle. On the back, by the way. He's only 15 months old, so he wasn't riding it. No, right, yes. But we had him on a seat. But they were also hiring out tandem bikes. And as I looked at it, I thought, I've never done that. We should do that. And Adelaide, Tim, you and I should hire a tandem bicycle,

put the microphones on. Yeah. And record us in action. Have you ever ridden a tandem bicycle? I have a feeling that I have. And you'll love this. I'm pretty sure I did it in Holland for some reason. I was only like little then, but I'm pretty sure.

Maybe I just saw one then for the first time. I'm pretty sure I have. They're more popular. Surprise, surprise. There are lots of bikes in Holland. But we could be like the goodies. You know how the goodies? There was like three of them.

They did. So, yeah, I think this would be a fun podcast, listening to people, experiencing things for the first time. Is there anything you haven't done, Tim, that you think we could do a podcast on? What's something you've never done? I remember you sharing on your podcast a little while ago about going up in a hot air balloon. I've never done that and I would love to do that

and I often think about that. Yes, Perfect. Talking through it, what you feel, what's different, what's perplexing. That'd be really cool. I think I've done everything else. I think I'm not sure. You've done it all, have you? That's right. Flying a plane, swimming, someone who's never swum before, getting in the water for the first time and trying to swim.

I know there's a YouTube clip that exists where you try coffee for the first time. Yes, yes, exactly. Another good example, eating something you've never eaten before, like something exotic, like snails or widgety grubs or something like that. I think the cleverness of this idea is not to make it too out there. In other words, not doing something that none of us have done for the first time, like climbing Mount Everest. Yes. It's got to be something that most of us have done, and yet we, like climbing Mount Everest. Yes. It's got to be something that most of us have done, and yet we're observing someone's unique experience of doing it for the first time, and we can identify. But we know what it's like already most of the time.

That's right. So we can relate and we can think, oh, I remember what it was like when I did it. And yeah, I think that makes it better, more relatable. I think so too. I think so too. So you need to find people that haven't done things that are quite obvious and, you know, common for everyone else driven a car like find someone who didn't get a driver's license for some reason and just take them to somewhere safe and put them behind a steering

wheel and in a car you know in a parking lot or something and say go on yeah that's true yeah yeah and is it that initial feeling i remember that moment i remember getting in a car for the first time and drive and it's moving and and going oh okay so you actually have to keep it on the road i thought the car just sort of followed the road you know but you sort of oh you have to actually go left a little bit left a little bit right and it's just that initial first feeling it's a wonderful moment yeah so you reckon winning podcast idea i think that's i think that's a solid podcast is the title too edgy? No, I think it works. Edgy titles work if you're on safe ground. Yeah.

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I was going to do a bit of Wanted Dead or Alive But No, no No Keep your powder dry Yes So we are sending one of our leather key rings To Ryan M from Iowa

Ryan M Field of Dreams territory Ryan, Ryan, Ryan M Ryan, Ryan, Ryan Okay, nice work Show us your. Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. Okay, nice work. Show us your key ring, Ryan. All right, we're sending an unmade podcast spoon to Greg B from Oklahoma. Greg B.

Greg B. I thought you might give us a bit of Garth. There's something a bit country with Oklahoma. Oh, right. Yeah, well, Garth's from Oklahoma, isn't he? I actually can't hear the guitar when you play it on Zoom, so I know you're playing it, but I can't hear it, so I don't know what you just played but i'm sure it was great i did this is um what's it who is it what's his name from oklahoma oh uh he's uh greg b greg greg from oklahoma will know this song from the tune I'm singing, the tune I'm

humming, Greg B is a friend in low places Nice. I saw the surprise in the fear in his eyes When I took his glass of champagne singing

I toasted you said baby we may be through You'll never hear me complain Doesn't work when you join in because you're slightly out of sync. If we ever record a duet, we're going to have to do it in the same country. We will. We'll have to organise that. We are sending unmade podcast collector cards to another Ryan from America.

This time Ryan J from Colorado. It's a big day for Ryans. It's a big, it's a huge Ryan day. Nice word. Nice name, Ryan. Yes. Also Richard D from Washington State and Mary S from California. So all American, all five winners are American today.

Oh, wow. Well, congratulations, America. They'll probably have a national holiday or something like that to celebrate i mean all five from the one nation it's a big deal it's a big moment for america it's like it's like the olympics they'll probably move the fourth of july to the launch date of this podcast so tim i mentioned i asked So, Tim, I mentioned, I asked the stakeholders about things they'd like us to discuss in this episode, and one of the things they asked was that we have a return

of a segment that I haven't done for a little while, and that is... The Moon of the Week. Really? People ask for it? Are you just making that up or is that... Someone called Tanya asked for a return of Moon of the Week. And I promise that's not like a burner account I'm using. It was a legitimate request from a real person, I think. So I've gone, I've ventured through the solar system

and found another moon that I thought I would reign you with random trivia about. Wow, this sounds exciting. And which moon is it that you've chosen? This moon is Oberon, which is a moon of Uranus or Uranus, depending on how you want to pronounce that and if you want to have a giggle so Oberon is the outermost of Uranus's five major moons Uranus has lots of moons but it's got five biggins and this is the one that's furthest out it's the second biggest

of Uranus's moons and it has a surface area about the same as australia the whole surface of the sphere is about the same amount of land as australia and to give you some context because that probably doesn't mean much to our moon has about double the surface area of australia oh right okay as i said it's the second biggest of uranus's moon it's the ninth biggest moon in the whole solar system by physical size like by diameter and area and it's the um it's actually the 10th if you do it by how heavy it is but it's the but it's the ninth by size and again to give you some context our moon is the fifth biggest right so it's a bit so it's a big moon it's a big moon yes yeah yeah named oberon after the king of the fairies from a mididsummer Night's Dream.

There's a lot of Shakespearean names around Uranus. I was just thinking that was a – I thought of that and wondering if that was a little joke in that they've connected it to Uranus. Because, of course, A Midsummer Night's Dream also features a character called Bottom. So there's Bottom and there's Oberon. No, I don't think that was the thinking. But I like where you went there. It was discovered in 1787 by a very famous astronomer called William Herschel.

And for 50 years, William Herschel owned the only telescope you could see it with, the only telescope that was powerful enough to see it. So how do we know he was telling the truth? He's like, I've got a special telescope. I can see this really big moon. No, you can't see it. No, you can't look at my telescope. It's just my telescope.

I think other people were allowed to have a look. I think he let other people look through his telescope from time to time. These days you could see it with a good backyard telescope if it's dark enough. Oh, okay, right. So you can see it as a little dot, you know, a dot going around a slightly bigger dot. So it wasn't just a dot on the end of his telescope that he put there and then told people, oh, that's a really big moon.

No, you're really casting some doubt over William Herschel. He's a pretty respected dude, you know. No, he's not won me over yet, no. I could tell you a few other things, but I can tell I'm already losing your interest. So I'll tell you, it's a rocky, icy moon like all these moons look. It's slightly red in colour. It's got lots of craters.

The biggest is over 200 kilometres across. And that crater is called Hamlet. And it also has craters called Othello, Macbeth and Romeo. All the craters and mountains and things on this moon are all named after male Shakespearean characters. Right. So how did Shakespeare get the names if we hadn't discovered that moon yet when he wrote the plays? Ah, now I've got you. He must have had access to William Herschel's telescope somehow. I don't know what's going on there. So I've got a few other facts here, but I might save them for a rainy day.

But there are some interesting bits and pieces. It's got an 11-kilometre high peak on it, and that's the 11th highest known peak in the whole solar system on any planet or moon, this great big high point in the middle of a crater. That is very big. So Mount Everest is 8 kilometres. Is that right? Yeah, no no it's higher

higher than mount everest it's higher than higher than anything on earth and that's from base to um summit so it's even higher than monakeya in hawaii which is taller than mount everest if you go from base to top although most of that's underwater yeah so it's even taller than that so yeah oberon was today's moon of the week if you ever find yourself at uranus uh and you're out out distant out far away from the planet you can go and go and visit it it's actually so far from uranus it's outside of its magnetosphere the magnetic influence of uranus which means that the solar wind all the particles that blow off the sun through space which are very dangerous hit this moon it's not protected because it's not inside this protective magnetic sheath

that Uranus has. But it's still in the magnetic pool, though. Like, it's not just, like, floating away. It's in the gravitational. It's in the gravitational pool. Right. But it's not in the magnetic sphere. They're two different things going on there.

Oh, okay. So, obviously, it's gravitationally bound to Uranus, but it dips in and out of its sort of protective jacket of magnetism. Right, okay. All right, well, no, thank you. That's Oberon. Perhaps I'll write a song called Oberon in honour of this book. Oh, yeah.

I like that. I like that. That sounds good. Podcast idea from Tim. Oh, yes. Look, I always resist music ideas because I feel like I did a lot of them early and they're easy for me. But then you did a whole run of them and that made me a bit annoyed.

And so I've just decided to do one. Yeah, follow your heart. This idea is simply called the best song you've never heard. I love discovering a song and being blown away from because songs are like little miracles in my mind and to to find one and and know that no one else knows it or rather it's not well known but it should have been a hit or it should have been um well known by everyone this is a great song or this should be covered by bruce springsteen or bob dylan or someone and made you know classic and so i i have some of these songs and i thought a good podcast idea would be bringing these unknown obscure songs that are high quality to the world and to be known and

hopefully then to be covered by someone or or or even just to become famous and, and in their own right by the original artists. Are these like, can these be songs by famous people, but it's just one of their songs that never really got, became well-known or does the artist have to be obscure as well? No, I think a good song is a good song. So it should be totally blind to that fact.

However, I do, there are a lot of people that sing and write songs and they're every now and then you hear good songs and you never hear them again. Like I've been in a pub, seeing a band, not really paying attention. Maybe it's the band on before the band that I was going to see. And it's all pretty generic. And then they play this one song and you look over at the stage and you go, that's good that's really good and i don't ever hear them again i can't remember who they were but you just go a good song stands out and it can visit upon someone like that so i think it's way

more interesting to focus on these little gems and nuggets that are out there that that are unlikely to be heard not just that they've been overlooked in a big canon. I'm with you. I mean, the other one is interesting too, because it's always good to say, hey, hey, you think you like the hit single from that person, but song number eight is actually the really great song. You know what I mean? And over time they prove themselves.

That's cool too. I really love that. So there are many ways in which this podcast could go. The best, the idea is it's about the song in itself, not the image or the person. It's actually, that is a fantastic song. give me an example give me a song oh well the song that prompted this idea is a song called december and it's by a singer songwriter called kim beals who's um an australian and is kind of do know him. He's a friend of a friend.

And I listened to his album once and I was like, oh, this is pleasant. And then this song just jumped out at me and I played it again and again and again and again over the next few days. And I often go back to it. It's on a playlist that I have. It's the most wonderful song. I found a dream somewhere in the pacific can't be too specific somewhere at sea is kim bills like famous like like a professional musician

like makes makes his living as a musician no no he's not he's not in fact coincidentally he's a minister like he's an anglican priest that's his his, like, day job. And that's not how I know him. I know him through another mate, but he just does a bit of music on the side because he loves it. He does have a couple of albums that he's sort of, you know, recorded, and, you know, these days they're on Spotify and they're on Apple Music. So you can look this song up, but he's not signed to a record label. Well, I think he's in North Fitzroy Records,

like a local really cool sort of, you know, new record label. But it's all very local and unknown. This has never been on the charts. It's just he's a guy who's a friend of a friend. And it's like, oh, what a great song. And I will remember the hope of November. And now it's December. Tomorrow's for you.

It's his best song. Okay. All right. I just love it. When Tim mentioned this idea to me just before recording so that I could have a bit of thinking time, I didn't quite grasp the obscure nature of it. So I've gone down a less obscure route.

But that's okay. There are no rules here. I chose an interesting song, though, because at the moment, obviously I often have reason to listen to music that our little baby, our little 15-month-old will enjoy. And we sort of got sick of nursery rhymes and we cast around a little bit for musicians we could listen to that made music for children that we would enjoy too.

Oh, yeah. around a little bit for musicians we could listen to that made music for children that we would enjoy too oh yeah and someone who was recommended to us by um amanda and chris actually from the younglings podcast who joined us a little while ago yeah they recommended a friend of theirs who is a who's quite a well-known musician actually he's called chris baloo he's a vocalist and bassist for the presidents of the united states of america band oh yeah but but when he's not doing that he's got a little side project what a big side project where he does like um children's music and he uses the alias casper baby pants and he's got all these songs that he writes they're always little quirky little nice cute songs and we like loads of them and we play them all the time and sing along and um our son likes too. Sometimes like the album just keeps playing after he's gotten out of the car because I forget to turn the album off and the songs kept

playing all these little kiddie songs and suddenly the song started playing that was a bit different to all the others. It's called, what's it called? It's called The Ballad of the Baby Pants from an album called Easy Breezy and it's just a cute little simple song about him as a songwriter struggling for ideas and then he finds these pair of pants and he puts them on his head and suddenly he gets all this inspiration and writes all these songs. That powerful pair of pants when worn upon my head filled my mind with words and rhymes and chords. He thinks about how wonderful that was And then he takes the pants off And hopes someone else will find them

And get inspiration too And it's just a cute little cutesy song There's no great meaning to it I don't think Although maybe it is shedding a bit of a light On the creative process I don't know But I just really liked it I really like it It charms me

Totally charms me I like to imagine that they hop from head to head and you could be the next to find those magic baby pants that's fantastic that's brilliant what a wonder they just stand out do they they just jump out marvelous that makes sense now that you say that he's the lead vocalist of the presidents of the united states because even their songs songs, you know, Twig and Lump and Car, you know, they were all kind of quirky little songs. This is a perfect genre for that guy. His stuff's really great if you've got a little one.

But this song appeals to me just as a song. I asked my wife, by the way, for a contribution. She's a really big Madonna fan, huge Madonna fan. And she suggested a song that I hadn't heard before called Love Song and it's actually a duet between Madonna and Prince and I have to say I don't think very much of it right I didn't think it was that great um and I was looking on I've read that other people don't think it's the greatest piece of music by either of those very successful artists either but it was a song that I hadn't heard of the fact that Madonna and Prince even had a duet was news to me.

Yeah. So she suggested a love song. Nice. Can I hijack your idea and take it somewhere a bit different for a second? Please. This made me then look at my 25 most played songs on my playlist on Apple. What are my 25 most played songs? And I wanted to see if there was a song on there that could somehow qualify for this.

Was there a song on my most played 25 that i thought some people might not have heard of because obviously there's going to be a lot of famous songs on there typically good idea good idea so i went to my 25 most played songs and there was nothing on there that i thought was really obscure and of course obscure is a relative term you know a song that you think is obscure may be to fans of that artist to be their greatest hit, their greatest song, and you may not have heard of it. So the best one I came up with on my list that some people may not have heard of, although it's by a very successful

and brilliant singer, is the song At the Bottom of Everything by the band Bright Eyes, which is led by a famous singer called Connor Oberst. And that's a song I really like. And I think it's my fourth most played song. Funnily enough, it's actually kind of about a plane crash in a funny kind of way. But it's a song I like a lot. And I thought it was the song on my top 25

that probably the least people will have heard of, although I do talk about it on a certain vinyl record I once produced so right okay people who bought that record will have heard of it but uh yeah i'm looking it up i saw i saw bright eyes um uh once when they supported rem and i was quite struck i thought that's a good song that's a good song that's a good song but i didn't really follow up from there to go and listen. But I was really impressed. Yeah, yeah. They've got a lot of really good songs. Yeah, I should listen to Bright Eyes more.

So call up your top 25, Tim, on your phone if you go into your Apple Music. You do it on the phone, do you? If you go into your Apple Music on your phone and go into playlists, your playlist, there'll be an automatically generated playlist of your most listened songs. Hi there, everyone. it's Editor Brady here just intervening to let you know that I'm going to snip out the next 15 to 20 minutes in which Tim and I unsuccessfully tried to find the top 25 songs on Tim's Apple Music. We absolutely cannot find it. It was a cause of much frustration.

a cause of much frustration all right well that's enough of that as i said i asked our patreon supporters for things they'd like us to discuss so i thought maybe we'll do a quick fire we haven't got much time left so we'll do a quick fire reading of some of these suggestions and just to get tim's initial reaction and my initial reaction someone called jesse said if by magic, Tim was granted the ability to play with bravado and precision one epic guitar solo, but could only execute it one time ever. When and how would he use this gift at a local gig or on stage with his favorite performer, etc. To do a guitar solo. Well, the solo that I love the most is there's two guitar solos in the song Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd, and the second one is my favourite.

And I kind of know the first bit of it, right? Right. And where are you going to use this one-off magical power to play it? Perfectly. On stage with David Gilmour from Pink Floyd at floyd at you know wembley or something yeah yeah outdoors at wembley on a massive stage at the big pink floyd reunion where i'm the special guest all right and then jesse also says if by that same magic brady was given the talent of the world's greatest tennis player but but only for one match.

How would he use it, i.e. to crush a local tennis legend and get his comeuppance or to orchestrate a match against an actual professional for the match of a lifetime? I mean, clearly I would use it to win the Wimbledon final. Wimbledon would be it over any? Yes, that's the most prestigious. It's got to be Wimbledon. That's got to be the one.

Or I'd save it for my match against Tim in November. You're going to need it. I would like, by the way, I was thinking the other day in the middle of a match that I need to revise the scores that I gave you. Really? I was, yeah, I was thinking, I mean, I'm a bit of a second set specialist, which is another way of saying I start badly. Yeah. But I sort of continue badly as well so i think i said six three seven five but it's yeah it made it yes anyway since that thrashing i received in the in the competition at my club i've now won 17 consecutive sets oh wow are you getting nervous about playing again in case you

oh no i want to i want the streak to end because it's kind of getting on my nerves a bit now like now i'm caring about winning or losing and i don't want my tennis to be like that no so i kind of want to lose one to end the streak i thought i'd lose last night at men's night at the club but i had jagged another three in a row on fire here we go uh magnus said why is it that men have this deep almost instinctive appreciation for a good stick like whenever we come across a good stick we have to pick it up and hold it for a little while why is that that is a brilliant observation i found a stick over in the low. Obviously, the classic stick you want to pick up is one that would make a good walking stick. But I also found a good stick the other day that looked just like a Harry Potter wand.

And it was so good, I couldn't resist. And I actually brought it home and put it on a shelf because it just looks like a Harry Potter wand. Well, that gets a bit closer. I think the ultimate is not a good walking stick. The ultimate is a good lightsaber. That's the ultimate stick that a good walking stick. The ultimate is a good lightsaber. That's the ultimate stick that we're all looking for. Yeah.

Love a good stick. Love a good stick. Yes. Brilliant. And finally, Colonel Katrina, our friend, asked for alternative baby names. She's currently expecting her second child and struggling to come up with a name, particularly for a boy. She said Brady and Tim have been vetoed. I'm sorry, guys. Ah, golly gosh.

That actually prompted me to ask you, and if this is too personal a question, that's fine. But I wanted to ask you, because you obviously have two girls, wonderful, wonderful girls. But if you had had a boy, was there a name you were going to use? Was there like a name that wasn't deployed, a boy's name? Yes, James, my middle name. Right. Yeah.

I couldn't handle another James in my life, so I'm glad that didn't happen. There's so many Jameses in my life right now. It's ridiculous. And we didn't even reuse it for anything else. It's not ended up with the dog or, you know, fish or anything like that. It's just out there to be used. But it's my middle name and I like the name. Is that the one you're going to suggest for Colonel Katrina?

Well, I think if Tim and Brady are vetoed, I think probably James and am I allowed to say John is your middle name? Yes. John is my middle name. I think they will be vetoed too because if they do use them, then it'll be a bit of too much of a nod to the other person. Yeah, favouritism. To one of us for the other person to handle. Yes, that's right. What about if she uses both, James John or John James?

Oh, well, there we go. That would be fine. Yes. In fact, that's my answer. That's what we recommend. All right. John James. There you go.

And speaking of two words nothing i got did you have any secret words no no secret words do you know what i did tonight i deliberately didn't ask because for the first time ever in over 100 episodes i just slipped out of the house and i thought of it and i go no i'm not gonna not going to ask. I'm just, I'm just going to leave. All right. Well, today's secret words were John and James. That's right.