The Unmade Podcast - 140: Leap Day

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

Tim and Brady mark the Leap Day by discussing Leap Years, award nominations, and dream podcast locations.Catch the bonus Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/posts/99247328The Million Dollar Podcast - https://www.unmade.fm/million-dollar-podcastSupport us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/comments/1b2xu90/Catch the podcast on YouTube where we often include accompanying videos and pictures (this one has a good one) - https://youtu.be/DhNc8v1IHyMUSEFUL LINKSLeap Years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_yearFebruary 29 birthdays and events - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_29The Wobbly Stone (La Piedra Movediza) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedra_MovedizaHansa Studio - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansa_TonstudioPoint Nemo - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_of_inaccessibility#Oceanic_pole_of_inaccessibilityCatch the bonus Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/posts/99247328Information about getting the Request Room into your podcast feed (for patrons) - https://bit.ly/3uQWhNzAnimation in this episode’s YouTube edition was by Pete McPartlan - https://youtu.be/DhNc8v1IHyM

We're doing a third episode this month I didn't want to do another one this month I haven't got time for this Tim But I had to release a podcast on the leap day 29th of February I couldn't not do it It just like, it was itching my brain When do you first remember learning about leap years?

Wasn't it a strange phenomenon to get your head around in primary school it was magical love it i can't remember when i learned about it but you know the quirkiness of the extra day in the year and like you know the calendar being broken that you've just learned but also yeah how long it took for me to understand the reason for it i don't know as well but they they are they are fascinating they're a bit magical aren't they i'm i'm guessing i first learned about it during the 1984 los angeles olympics because it they coincide with the olympics and i reckon that would have been the moment when a big deal would be would have been

made about it summer olympic years are leap years most of the time. Tell me this, then. Tell me this. If someone young comes up to you and says, Tim or Dad, why do we have a leap year? Explain it to me. What's a leap day? Why do we have the 29th of February? How do you explain it?

So I feel like this is another way of saying, Tim, ask me why We have leap years to demonstrate How little you know about No, no, no There's nothing, I don't, you know, whether you Whether you can explain it or not, I'm not judging I'm not judging No, no, I'm not ashamed

I assume, let me get this right In my head, I think I've got a couple of theories I think it's because um the time it takes for the earth to go around the sun isn't exactly lining up with the um agrarian calendar or the time the way time works or something like that so we have to catch up about a quarter of a day or a year or something like that. Is that right? That's exactly right. Let's go with that then. We'll go with that.

All right. I was thinking about how I would explain it. Yeah. Like, I mean, you were exactly right what you said there, but I was trying to think how I would explain it in more detail, but on a podcast, because that's like an interesting challenge. So I'm going to have a try at explaining it more thoroughly. I have some questions about it. I think there's some potential holes in it,

but let me hear from you first. You make your case. Let me explain it and see if I plug the holes, and then if I don't, you ask me the questions. So the Earth goes around the sun. Yes. And let's call it a circle. It's not exactly a circle, but let's call it a circle.

The orbit around the sun is this big circle, and it it a circle. It's not exactly a circle, but let's call it a circle. The orbit around the sun is this big circle and it takes a year. That is what a year is, the time it takes the Earth to go around the sun. So, imagine there's a start-finish line. Right. That, you know, as it's doing laps, you know, it goes over the start-finish line each lap. And for the sake of argument, let's make that start-finish line the 1st of January. Right. Because that's a good one to make it.

So, as the Earth goes around this orbit, the seasons change. I won't go into all the reasons why the seasons change, but the seasons change as the Earth goes around the sun. We get winter, we get summer, we get different times that farmers need to plant their crops and all these sorts of things, which is one of the reasons we have a calendar, is so people know when things happen. When is your birthday? When do I need to plant the seeds? Things like that. So, the earth happily goes around and it goes past all these checkpoints. On your birthday, it's at the same point on the racetrack every year. At the time that you need to be planting the wheat, it's at the same point on the racetrack every year. So it's important to know where you are on the racetrack.

I understand, yes. Now, here's the problem. It actually doesn't take a year to go around. It takes a year and a quarter, as you said. There's this extra little quarter. calendar runs out, when the year runs out of our calendar and we hit 31st of December, 1st of January, the Earth is actually a quarter day short of the finish line. It hasn't made it to the finish line yet. It hasn't finished the lap. Right. So, what happens then is our calendar that hangs on the wall starts again, but the Earth has to pootle along for another quarter of a day before its year starts again. So the actual year, according to space and the Earth and the stars and the sun,

has now fallen a quarter of a day behind you and my calendar, the calendar we have on the wall. Right. So after four laps, it's actually fallen a whole day behind. So now the Earth is a day behind where it's supposed to be to link up with the calendar and as more and more years go by the earth falls further and further behind where it's supposed to be our calendars are flipping page after page after page and the earth is falling further and further behind and it gets to a point now where we don't know when to plant the seeds when everything when you're when the weather at christmas is changing because the earth is at a different place on the lap than

than where it should be according to our calendar so to compensate for that we just shove an extra day in every four years and that makes up that lag that lets the earth in that extra day on the 29th you can call it on the 29th of febru, the Earth is able to keep pootling along for an extra day and catch up to where it should be on our calendar. Right. Let me. OK, that makes sense. Let me ask some clarifying questions before I expose the hole in your theory. OK. question is, is it exactly a quarter or is it sort of like 3.27 hours such that if we make up a whole,

if it's not exactly a quarter, then we're actually making up precisely one day when actually it's something in between. So should we every 10 years chuck in another 10 minutes or something like that to help us out? What an excellent question, Tim. And that is why leap years are every four years. If the year is divisible by four, we have a leap year. But if the year is divisible by 100, we don't have a leap year. We say no leap year. But if it is divisible by 400, we ignore the 100 rule, and we do have a leap year that's why the year 2000 although it

was divisible by 100 shouldn't have been a leap year but because it was divisible by 400 we did make it a leap year so there are all these little extra rules and things we put in to tweak for the fact that you are indeed correct it isn't exactly a a quarter. Okay. Let's imagine you've lost some of our listeners. You haven't lost me. I'm right with you. But hypothetically, you may have lost. What did you just say? Just say all that again.

Okay. If I tell you a year, how do you know if it's a leap year? You say if the Olympics are on, which is a good answer. Yes. But another answer you can use is, is the year divisible by four? What do use is is the year divisible by four what do you mean is the year divisible by four oh as in the actual the number actually oh why would that matter that aren't those numbers just arbitrary we've just picked when jesus was born well everything the calendar's arbitrary everything here is arbitrary but using our calendar if if

the the number of the year so this year 2024 is divisible by four it's a leap year chuck in the extra day right but as you point out it's not quite that exact so they need to compensate for it and they've compensated for it in other ways right so if the year is divisible by a hundred it's not a leap year even though it's divisible by four so are you saying every every now and then we have a leap year that's not a leap year even though it's divisible by four so are you saying every every now and then we have a leap year that's not that we don't treat as a leap year yes when's the last time that happened well it would have happened in 1900 right because the year 1900 although it's divisible by four it's also divisible by a hundred and if the year is divisible by 100 the leap year is scrapped no leap year for you so

even though there was it was a leap year they only had 28 days in february in 1900 well it wasn't a leap year 1900 was not a leap year because it was divisible by 100 right they decided not to make it a leap year right it ordinarily would have been yes did they still hold the Olympics? So they still held the Olympics. So the year 2000, when they held the Sydney Olympics, divisible by four, yay, it's a leap year. Hang on. Divisible by 100, no leap year. But there's this extra rule.

If it's divisible by 400, which 2000 is, the leap year is back, which is why we had a leap year in 2000 even though it was a divisible by 100 year wow because you're right it's not exactly a quarter and they have to tweak keep tweaking for that they keep tweaking and they tweak it every 100 years or so this this system pretty much accounts for that right right right so here's my question then right this is the hole in your theory okay which is the idea that if it doesn't take if we take the measurement of a year from how long it takes the earth to go around the sun yes but it actually doesn't take exactly a year then why do we change our measuring of a year why from what why in other, why don't we make the days shorter?

And you might say, oh, because that's about the time itself. But when you break down time, it just goes down to one second. Why not make one second slightly longer? There is a reason. Every hour is slightly longer. Hang on, hang on, hang on. There is a reason for this. I will explain it.

I'll explain the reason. Right. So there are two kinds of years going on here, right? There's the astronomical year, which is how long it takes the Earth to go around the reason. Right. So there are two kinds of years going on here, right? There's the astronomical year. Right. Which is how long it takes the Earth to go around the sun, to truly cross the finish line, to complete the orbit. Right.

And there's the calendar year, which is the arbitrary human thing that we've made 365 days. Because 365 days is the closest number of days to an astronomical year that we can get. Now, so you might say, well, why don't we change the length of a day? Because that's based on the moon. Is that right? No, no, no. Because that's based on the earth. That's how long the earth takes to spin on its own axis, like a top.

Oh, yeah, right. To face the sun and then to turn away and then face the sun again. And that is also just set by space, by nature. We have no control over that. And unfortunately for us, the number of times the Earth spins like a top doesn't fit neatly and perfectly into how long it takes the Earth to complete its circuit around the sun if the two were perfectly matched we wouldn't have a problem right they're not perfectly matched so the number of spins of the

earth is unfortunately for us 365 and a quarter for it to go all the way around the, not exactly 365. If the Earth day, if the spinning of the top was a perfect integer match with how long it took us to go around the sun, we wouldn't have this problem. But it's not a perfect match. Well, that makes a lot of sense. That may have somewhat, go some way to plugging the hole that I've pointed out. Would there be any cataclysmic repercussions that we know of

if they were in perfect alignment? Not that I can think of. No, I think it would be an amazing coincidence. But no, it would probably be quite useful for timekeeping. Well, it would be useful for timekeeping, that's right. So there's no relationship between them. In other words, the gravity holding the Earth near the Sun isn't related to the gravity or the forces spinning the Earth at a particular speed or anything like that.

There's no relation like that that I'm aware of. But of course, we have discussed before, two objects can become something called tidally locked. This doesn't happen with the earth and the sun but it does happen with the earth and the moon so the moon how long it takes the moon to spin like a top on its own axis is exactly the same time it takes the moon to go around the earth to complete its big circuit of the earth the orbit around the earth that's why we always see the same face so there is a repercussion for the moon because it became tidally locked to the earth and the repercussion is where you live you always have the set you you always have the same view of the earth and that's because of the pink floyd album wow so there we go i am amazed that we have so accurately measured how long it takes these things to happen like for the earth to go around the sun and yeah it is it is impressive how act how accurately we can measure this stuff and how accurately we could measure a long time ago well you just would have

used a calendar you just would cross out the days the closer you get to december and then then when you got to the end of the year that's all it's all on wikipedia of course before they had real calendars they had advent calendars which was very handy because that's towards it's all on wikipedia of course before they had real calendars they had advent calendars which was very handy because that's towards the end of the year to help you yeah to countdown it'd be good if advent calendars every four years had like an extra door with an extra present it's a shame it's a shame advent calendars aren't february based or the leap day isn't in december that's right. That's great.

Chuck in the extra piece of chocolate. How excited must the graphic designers in the calendar world get every, like, three and a half years where it's like, ooh, here we go, guys. All right. I do like the idea of a leap year advent calendar. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. With, like, a special wonka chocolate in it or something you know like something extra special so a leap year also known as an intercalary year or a bisectile year these are old-fashioned names for it who who named

it the leap year like sir alfred leap or something yeah sir alfred leap yeah he was uh he came up with it he was a very clever guy. He was really into calendars. Third governor of South Australia, yeah. So my idea for a podcast is a podcast that is only ever released on Leap Days. Unlike this one, which is only listened to on Leap Days. Yeah. So this is, you may remember in the very first episode, the pilot episode of the Unmade podcast,

one of my ideas was a podcast called Blue Moon, which was only released on these rare occurrences called a blue moon, which is another astronomical event. So, this is an even rarer podcast. Nice. The Leap Day podcast. Would it be about leap years or what would be the topic of conversation? Well, I think we've shown you can talk for quite a while about leap years,

but I haven't thought that far ahead. But there is some interesting things about leap years and leap days. In the UK and Ireland, there is a tradition that women can propose to a man in a leap year. Ah, yes. Or some people believe it can only be on the leap day. Of course, a woman can propose to a man anytime, but in the more old-fashioned times when it was considered a man's responsibility to propose, there was an exception in the UK and Ireland in leap years and on leap days. in the UK and Ireland in leap years and on leap days. In Finland, there is a tradition that if a man refuses a woman's proposal on a leap day, he has to buy her fabric for a skirt.

Well, that's fair enough. That makes all sense. No explanation needed. No more explanation needed. Good. That's good because I can't talk for as long about that as I can about the moon and the earth and the sun. Now, here's an interesting fact and shows that my idea is far from original. In France, since 1980, there is a satirical newspaper called La Bourgeoisie de Sapur, excuse my French, which is published only on the 29th of february in a leap year oh wow they they

they only it's the least frequently published paper in the world apparently i wonder if there are any sort of strange cults or you know sort of mystic people you know people attach importance or druids who are who go to visit stonehenge on a leap year and, you know, lay flat on the ground and, you know, drink potions. There must be some sort of weird superstitions associated with it. I think in 2004, the leap day fell on a Sunday and this newspaper released a special edition with a Sunday supplement. And they're not doing another Sunday supplement until 2032. That's cool. I like this paper.

This is my way of thinking. I remember in primary school, our primary school teacher introduced us to someone one day and said this grown man in front of us was only seven years of age. And we sort of looked up, oh, what? Like, how is this possible? Looking at each other in amazement, you know? Yeah. And then it was explained that his birthday was on the 29th of February.

And, like, the back of our heads exploded with the amazing coincidence that someone could have been born. Much like Tim's did just then when I was explaining how leap years work. We will come to these so-called leapers or leaplings in a minute. But another tradition I thought I'd tell you about is in Greece, it is considered unlucky to get married in a leap year. One in five engaged couples in Greece will plan to avoid getting married in a leap year. Gosh.

Did you get married in a leap year? I don't think I did. No, I didn't. I have no idea. Oh, no. Well, no, I didn a leap year? I don't think I did. No, I didn't. I have no idea. Oh, no. Well, no, I didn't. No, I do have an idea. And no, I didn't.

I can't confirm. Tim was like, divided by four times 100. Is it 400? Hang on. Is it 100th year? No, it's not. I was, where's the moon? I was, just a minute ago when you were talking about leap years in my mind i suddenly

went oh hang on i think this year's a leap year and then i went oh hang on what month is it it's february oh hang on when when is it oh then no that's right that's why we're doing this episode exactly so i like the earth every four years i'm'm just catching up. I'm very interested in, well, let's come to what you brought up. People born on February 29. These are called a leapling or a leaper. Oh, yeah. And yeah, there is the joke, you know, that they're only, their age is four times less than it should be.

The opposite of dog years, I guess. Yes. Of course, most of these people, you know, celebrate their birthday on February 28th or March the 1st. I don't know. It's different in different countries. I guess if you really want to know whether you can, you know, get into the casino or the pub, that day matters, you know.

But anyway, I had a look up at some people. There's a very long list on Wikipedia andipedia and elsewhere of people born on february 29 surprisingly few of them i had heard of pope paul iii i hadn't heard of but i believe there was a pope paul iii many many years ago he was born on february 29 jack lusma the astronaut he's he's one of the lesser known astronauts from my era of astronauts around that time Was he a moonwalker? He was not a moonwalker He was around that vintage

He went into Skylab and one of the very early space shuttle missions So he's that kind of golden era vintage I have got his autographed picture here in a drawer behind me Jonathan Coleman, the TV host from Australia and the UK You probably remember Jonathan Coleman I the TV host from Australia and the UK You probably remember Jonathan Coleman I do, yeah Yeah Does a lot of those ads, those tele-ads, those, you know, advertorials

He was on Simon Towns' Wonderworld is where he made his name as a reporter And then he had his other TV shows and stuff That's right Dave Brailsford, the cycling and sports coach UK people will know him very well The current Prime Minister of Spain, whose name I didn't write down, but I believe he is a leapling. And Tony Robbins, that motivational speaker with the really big chin.

Oh, yeah. With the big pecs and the big chin. Not a fan? Not particularly, no. There were two singers called Dave Williams and Saul Williams, both born in 1972 on the 29th of February, who I do not believe were related. Oh, right.

Singers of what and when? Like 60s or 70s or no one? Well, they were born in 72, so, you know, more recent. One of them's dead. Is it Ja Rule or Ja Rule? Ja Rule, the rapper? He's a leapling. Is he?

Right. And Sean Abbott, the Australian cricketer. He's a bowler on the fringes of the Australian squad. Maybe. Look, none of them are particularly remarkable, are they? No, there were no crackers. There were no really good ones. No really good ones.

I looked at deaths on 29th of February as well. I could tell I was scratching around. Yeah. There was the rather funnily named Pope Hilarious. Hilarious? Oh, right. He wasn't called Pope Hilarious for funny reasons. I think it's some play on Hillary, the word Hillary or something.

But that's a long time ago. And Pat Garrett, the sheriff who shot Billy the Kid Died on the 29th of February Oh really That's all I got Again there's a long list It's not even Billy the Kid was shot that day It's the guy who shot Billy the Kid Just happened to die later on

Yeah 17 years later On February 29th Throw me a bone here man That's gross There's also an interesting list right Throw me a bone here, man. That's gross. There's also an interesting list, right, of things that happened on February 29, like, you know, events. And I found it interesting because some of them were like, you know, going to be monumental. Like, let me give you an example.

James Madison University in Virginia was founded on that day. So they decided to have their founding day on February 29, knowing the problems this was going to cause with the anniversary. Like the Czechoslovak National Assembly in 1920 adopted its constitution on February 29. And you think, okay, well, this is a day we're going to celebrate in the future, you know, like it's going to be a significant day. Why do it on February 29. And you think, okay, well, this is a day we're going to celebrate in the future, you know, like it's going to be a significant day. Why do it on February 29? It must feel special at the time. The events coordinator goes, oh, do you know what?

What would really work? If we bring it forward a week, it'll be the, what's it called? It's not the leap day, the extra day. What's the actual name of the leap day? It's called a leap day. The leap day, right. Yeah. What's the actual name of the leap year? It's called a leap day. The leap day, right. Yeah. Why did February get it?

Is it just because it has fewer days anyway, so it makes sense? Good question. Good question. I didn't find that out in my pre-show reading. That seems logical, doesn't it? Like, you know, chuck it in the one that's going to and also save us money on Advent calendars. Don't put it in December.

That's right. Indeed. Less, fewer chocolates. If you put it in December. That's right. Indeed. Less, fewer chocolates. If you put it at the end of December, though, I guess it wouldn't hurt the Advent calendar. It would kind of work the whole year having an extra day right at the end of the year. Like a New Year's Eve is kind of its own day.

The only month with 32 days. Yeah, imagine counting down to New Year's Eve. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Oh, hang on. Oh, no. Hang on. Divide, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Oh, hang on. Oh, no. Hang on. Divide by 4. Oh, no.

We've got a whole other day. It's a leak. Oh, I didn't realise. Oh, well. Let's do it all again tomorrow night. I looked at other things that happened on February 29. Again, there's a whole big list. Like, you know, Abel Tasman.

He was Dutch, wasn't he? Abel Tasman, I, he was Dutch, wasn't he? Abel Tasman, I think, of Tasmania fame. He started his second Pacific voyage on a leap day in 1644 and stuff like that. So, whatever. But there was one that tickled me for some reason. There was this famous stone in Argentina called, it was called the Wobbly Stone. It's balancing rock. And it was this amazing rock, this huge boulder that weighed like 300 tons that was really precarious. It was a real like,

you know, landmark of this part of Argentina. Oh, yeah. And then one day at night, it just fell. Oh, wow. Well, it's precariously. Oh, yeah. It's impressive, isn't it? It is, yeah. And sadly, one day it just fell and broke. And that happened on February 29, 1912. It waited for a leap day. Now, time for prizes for our Patreon supporters. We experimented with having nominees. I came up with a new algorithm that spits out 10 nominees. And from those nominees, three people win prizes we're gonna do it again we're gonna do it again but i'm not sure for how

long we're gonna do it i want to i really want to know what people think about this because last episode one of the nominees who had their name read out uh a um a stakeholder was sam from michigan and then sam was not one of the winners he was one of those people who you know just had to politely clap as the winners were announced and sam got in touch and said brady and tim the oscar nomination style prize drawing ended up being weirdly stressful which i didn't expect when tim suggested the idea for some irrational reason it stressed me out in the same way gambling does. But at least with gambling, I know what I'm signing up for when I sit down at the table.

The one positive from this is that it's sort of confirmation that I'm in the running for future prizes, assuming that I am the Sam from Michigan. But it was still not the best feeling experience. Just my two cents in case you guys wanted feedback on this experiment. Appreciate the podcast. Keep up the good work sam from michigan well that's interesting i was when you started reading out that someone who had been nominated but not one had got in contact i thought oh this will be an encouraged thing to say it was great just to hear my name you know love you guys all the rest of it. But actually it was stressful. How interesting. Yeah.

I guess it's like knowing how close you came. Yeah. It's like more frustrating. Oh, I'd rather not have known that I nearly got a prize. Because he was in the running before and yet he didn't feel stressful because maybe it felt like it was never going to happen. Yeah. But that he came so close.

Yeah. That raises all sorts of questions for other people who have been nominated for things like the Booker Prize, where for months and months there's like a top ten out there so everyone can read them, and then a top five so everyone can read them, and then the winners announced. And you wonder, is it torturous for the people? Imagine if we read out the nominees

but didn't announce the winners until the next episode. That would be mean. I don't think it's a bit too much for Sam to bear. Tim, do you want to get your Oscar nominee voice on and read out the ten nominees this week? Sorry if I were about to stress you. Only three of you are going to win. Who are the nominees, Tim?

And the nominees are Richard from Cambridgeshire christian from oslo mickey from new jersey i'm going to say it's not jurgen but who you gone in germany i think that's owen because he's also got an irish surname and i think that's like an ir way. So even though he's in Germany, I think that might be Owen. Oh, Owen. Owen in Germany. Fantastic. Vladimir in Washington State. Rye also in Washington State. And Joe in Washington State. They all came out in a row by coincidence. It's amazing. Washington State is like the Titanic of this year's Oscars

just coming up with three nominations. All the nominees. And Andrew in Parkdale, Victoria. Michelle in Calgary. And Ian in Hampshire. You've been in the UK for a long time, so it's tempting for me to go Hampshire. Do you say shire or shire?

Do you say that shire really? Hampshire. Shire, is it? Like shearing a sheep. Hampshire. Hampshire. Is that how the Brits say it as well? Yes.

Cambridgeshire. Yeah. Or the English, I should say. Yeah. Shire. I feel like in movies they say that the last bit, the shire, so quickly that it's almost sheer, so quickly that it's almost like it's just off the bat. Yeah, it is quite. It is Cambridge sheer, Hampshire sheer, Nottingham sheer, Leicester sheer.

Our nominees are hoping this sheer conversation ends very soon so they know the winner. Okay, nominees, are you ready? Can I announce the winners? Go for it. All right. The winner of a souvenir spoon, one of our original Unmade Podcast spoons,

real collector's item, much, much sought after, is Andrew in Partdale, Victoria. That's in Australia, and that means maximum postage for Brady. The winner of the key ring, the leather key ring, Unmade Podcast, Australian Nut,

is... We were always going to have to do this one again, weren't we? Owen, maybe? Owen in Germany. Ewan, Owen, Jürgen? Itwan Owen Jürgen. It's not Jürgen, is it? E-O-G-H-A-N.

Gahn. So on its own, it's Jürgen. It's a funky spelling. I think that's Owen. It's a cool-looking name, I have to say. Yeah. The winner of the collector cards, Spoon of the Week collector cards,

an assortment in an envelope, are being sent to... Christian in Oslo. Oh, congratulations. Washington State gets nothing. Nothing? Despite having three nominees. Was there a film that got nothing in history

despite all the nominees? What's the most nominations at the Oscars without winning an Academy Award? I know Michael Jackson's Bad is in that category. What, for the Grammys? For Grammys, yeah. The Turning Point in 1977 received 11 nominations but didn't win a single category.

But they're still saying it's one of the best five films that year. What year was that? 1977. 77. Not a leap 1977 77 not a leap year maybe they should give like in leap years they should give two oscars to best picture just randomly or or a random winner like a wild card there should be a wild card oscar just for a great film out there that's, you know, just for anything.

Just going, look. Yeah. It was, look, let's just be honest. It had Brad Pitt and he looked great. Or just do it random like I do with the patrons. By the way, speaking of patrons, three, not normally this many, three different Patreon supporters had their names spat out by the algorithm to be nominated, but weren't nominated because they haven't supplied me with a postal address.

And if you don't give me a postal address, I can't send you prizes. And that's fine. You don't have to submit a postal address. That may be a completely deliberate decision, and that's fine. But just a reminder, if you are a patreon supporter do make sure you go in and put a postal address if you want to be in the running for prizes all right we're done tim what do you mean we're done do you have an idea for a pod oh we're done oh i was gonna say for goodness no we're done with all my faffing around now it's time for

the real reason people listen tim's podcast idea the cherry on top yes the cake or the cream the the caviar look my idea is simply called dream location in other words yeah where is the dream location to record an episode and i mean like specifically in this seat in this place you know what i mean in this room at that place where would you most if you could record one podcast anywhere where would it be where would it be what about inside the sistine chapel oh that's a good one yeah to record a podcast looking up um yeah at the roof of the sistine chapel because because my brain immediately goes to yeah places that no one else can get to you know like the moon or yeah space although they do do you know podcasts and stuff in space i guess i'd probably do them for the

nasa and that but um yeah i like you know the the oval office yes yeah that would be cool i like the side i like the idea like you know my dream dream location the idea, like, you know, my dream location. The idea being, of course, that you work hard to try and actually do the episode. Where are we now and what's going on around about us? Yeah. It doesn't also, can I say, have to be somewhere famous. Like, I was inspired by your idea last time about me getting inside the Golden North factory,

just going in the ice cream, going to your favourite factory for your favourite food and recording an episode in there. That's a cool idea. Summer of Mount Everest, and then the next week you're at the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Oh, gosh. The Mall's Balls in Adelaide. Wreckage of the Titanic.

The wreckage of the Titanic, all the way down. That'd be cool. They're very extreme ideas you're coming up with, though. Oh, sorry. Sorry, would you like me to make them more boring? Just because it's called Dream Location doesn't mean you have to go overboard. Sorry I didn't say the Golden North Ice Cream Factory at the sticks of South Australia.

That's going to be a real cracker. What I mean is, would like in the centre of Anfield for you, the home of Liverpool, would that be a cool place? Yeah, Liverpool's home ground. Yeah, that would be nice. Because I think that's an occasion to go there and talk about why you've chosen here and why this is a dream location. And you could talk about your love of Liverpool and how it must have

seemed like a fantasy land when you were young, thinking that you could ever go there and actually see a match love of Liverpool and how it must have seemed like a fantasy land when you were young thinking that you could ever go there and actually see a match or something because it was just on a little TV at home, you know, that we saw once a week. What about you? Is it some music venue or something? I like the idea. We've mentioned before Hansa Studio in Germany, which I know you've actually been to and didn't

understand that. I played a guitar in there. Yeah, just yet yet another brady experience that he's just walked through half awake not knowing it's a fantasy of tim oh did i tell you i had dinner with nick cave last night he wouldn't say it like that you'd go oh yeah oh, yeah, no, see you, Nick. All right. And then just move on. So Hansa Studio, I like that. There's a few famous studios that are in that way, in that sort of vintage.

You'd have good acoustics there too for your podcast. It's a perfect place for a podcast actually, isn't it, in that sense? Yeah. So I like that idea. There's some venues, some particular venues, such as CBGB's, which doesn't exist anymore in New York City. That'd be pretty cool. Or Brixton Academy, a few places like that would be great to go to. There's some nostalgic places as well. Like I'd love to go to the Sidney Meyer Music Bowl in Melbourne, where there's some big carols, Christmas carols. And I grew up watching the Christmas

carols there. And every year we'd say, oh, we should go next year up to the big city, Melbourne, to actually go to the carols, which is like a big, massive all day ordeal that we never got around to. I love the idea of actually playing the music bowl. You know what I mean? As a podcast, just recording and talking about those memories and how long it's been there and who's played there. I'd like to do the South Pole or the North Pole, but the place I'd really like to make a podcast is a place called Point Nemo. Where's Point Nemo? Point Nemo is, let me, how do I say where it is?

It's in the South Pacific Ocean. It's the point in the sea furthest from any point of land anywhere. it's you're in the sea and you'd be swimming there or in your boat and it's the furthest you can possibly be from land so there's no it's just a point in the ocean there's not a bit of land there like it's not an island yeah yeah no there's nothing there and and there's your 2688 kilometers land. Does that include land down? Like, how deep is the ocean at that point? Oh, no, the ocean's not that deep. No, it doesn't include land down.

I don't know how deep the ocean is there, but the deepest the ocean gets to, I think, is... Isn't it like 8 or 11 kilometres or something? Yeah, 10 kilometres or something, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. So, no, not including down. I don't count that as land.

Right. So, a podcast from Point Nemo would be pretty awesome. It would be. Just get your boat there. I don't think you could anchor it, but just stop it there and just do a podcast, knowing how far I am. It would be the perfect place for us also to drop. We're not saying we have done this, but we could do this as an idea, as a hypothetical idea, to drop our podcast're not saying we have done this but we could do this as an idea as a hypothetical idea to drop our podcast in a bottle that would be the perfect place to leave one of those good

idea good idea you could i'd love to hear from other people where they would most like to i mean we're saying where you'd most like to record a podcast but what we're really saying is it's the place you really want to visit but i think it makes a good podcast because it's yeah because you talk about why not just oh isn't it lovely here there's a lovely view you say well this is the significance with this what a great podcast right you've got you say you've got unlimited budget your podcast again we go back to this thing we always go back to like desert island discs or you know having guests what's a good format for having guests you say to your each guest you're my guest next week tom hanks you're on the show next week we will take you anywhere you want to go for the podcast anywhere you say that's where we're

recording and each week it's somewhere different what an amazing thing that would be and they could just throw it out there and take and i want to go i want to go to point nemo i want to go down to the mariana trench i want to go to ha Studios where Brady played guitar once. Whatever you say, we'll take you there. And why? Why? That's the bit. Because I like the idea of going to find something significant and personal and talking it through. That's sort of going back to where your parents grew up or come from or the homeland. I mean, that's a pretty common trope. But finding a specific point or house or door where something like that happened.

Yeah. The very spot. Good call. Like it a lot. Spot is a podcast about dream location. All about spots. All right. Excellent.

Well, shall we pull up stumps here? Can I ask one more question about about leap years yeah of course you know how you said you said that there's a you know there's like let's say an arbitrary the start finish line at some stage when they started the calendar they had to pick a point and say okay the calendar starts now like presumably they chose midnight because and that's based on the earth spinning around and it you know what i mean but it went like at what point did they say let's start the calendar tomorrow and then four years from now we'll have a leap year i don't know there's a

there's a lot written about i mean leap years came later leap years sort of evolved and have changed over time and the way that... And different calendars from different cultures account for this problem in different ways, by the way. You can read all about it on Wikipedia and stuff. But, yeah, why January 1st is where it is on the Earth's turn, I don't know, because the natural points, you'd think, to start and end years may be like the solstices when you have the longest and shortest days.

But they kind of don't they don't match with january 1 in any way so i don't know the answer i don't know why where the earth is on january 1 in its in its great voyage around the sun is chosen i can't tell you the answer to that it might maybe it's to do with the constellations, maybe, you know, because the constellations move in the sky throughout the year depending on where the Earth is. And so it could be something to do with where the sun is in relation to the background stars is basically what I'm saying.

But I don't know. I don't know the answer. Get back to us on it. Tim and I are going to go to the request room and do a quick request room for the Patreon supporters where we answer a few questions i've got them ready to go but i wanted to end this episode in a bit of a different way if i could tim in a minute i'm going to play like you know a little jingle piece of sound we play at the end of every episode and then i'm going to play what we have so far on the million dollar podcast oh

so i'm going to play them. I'm going to just like, so if you, when the jingle plays, you can stop or you can go to the request room or you can go about your business or you can hang around for another five, 10 minutes and listen to the contributions so far because I'm finding it really interesting. It's really fun to listen to and I want as many people as possible to hear some of the stuff.

We've got all sorts of stuff going. Just recently, we had a submission from someone who has a recording of a radio amateur talking to the International Space Station, which is brilliant. That's something people sometimes do. These radio hams can sometimes get in touch with the space station. Got a really, really nice one of those with a nice story behind it. We've got someone said in their dog barking things like that someone just saying that they love their wife all sorts of lovely stuff so if you want to hang around and have a listen do so and if you want to contribute some

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