The Unmade Podcast - 141: Happy Place

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

Tim and Brady discuss Disneyland Paris, happy places, ice-cream, a Canadian prime minister, the jaw harp, a Zimbabwean tea jingle, prize nominations, and flags at half mast.Hear Tim sing a serenade in this week’s Request Room - https://www.patreon.com/posts/100788390Check out this episode on YouTube for photos and videos from Disneyland - https://youtu.be/43hT8bZyrw4Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/1bk64enUSEFUL LINKSSome of Brady’s photos from Disneyland Paris - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-141-picturesEven more photos and videos are included in the YouTube video - https://youtu.be/43hT8bZyrw4Golden North - https://goldennorth.com.auBrian Mulroney - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_MulroneyThe Million Dollar Podcast - https://www.unmade.fm/million-dollar-podcastInformation for people who have ALREADY bought airtime on the Million Dollar Podcast - https://www.unmade.fm/a-note-about-the-mdpTanganda Tea - https://tangandatea.comThe Tanganda Tea jingle from Zimbabwe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y24xddtOD1APictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-weekCatch the bonus Request Room episode - https://www.patreon.com/posts/100788390Information about getting the Request Room into your podcast feed (for patrons) - https://bit.ly/3uQWhNz

Hey, it's pre-show Brady here, just letting you know that, well, I'm about to talk a lot about Disneyland and a visit I had there. If you want to see lots of pictures and videos from the trip, kind of synced up with the podcast a bit, I'll be doing that on the YouTube version of this episode. If you're already watching the YouTube version of this episode, well, you've come to the right place. I hope you enjoy it. If you don't want to see any pictures or video, you just want to listen, well, that's okay. This is a podcast after all. Disneyland.

Tell me everything. You haven't told me a thing, but you've been to Disneyland. I'm back from the happiest place in Europe, Disneyland Paris. Wow. Now, the only thing I know about Disneyland Paris is that it's mocked in The Simpsons as being like absent and not. You know what I mean? Like there's leaves flowing through it and it's like, who are you not to come and enjoy yourself? That's like itchy and scratchy land Paris.

Is it like that or is it just like, is it Disney? Like it's a bit kind of like sad and not as magical as. Euro trash and, you know, empty and abandoned and not quite the spectacular. It has a reputation, apparently, for not having good weather and raining a lot. Right. And it did rain a lot. So, I haven't been to Disney World in Florida. I have been to Disneyland in Anaheim.

That's the original one that you went to, isn't it? It's smaller, but it's the original, yeah? Yes, the one in California, yeah. Although they've built a big thing next to it as well it's pretty still pretty big but there's someone in my house that feeds me strong disneyland information so i've retained that data um so let me ask you this you know the disneyland it exists in my in the zeitgeist for me right from watching the wonderful world of disney as a kid and it's like this imaginary place that exists out there and it's the castle and the whole deal and i imagine you had that in your heart and your mind as well walking into euro disney did it feel like you were arriving at that

magical place all right team and civilians just a quick check-in from Disneyland Paris The team's just arrived you might be able to hear the music Oh Mickey we've spotted Mickey Mouse Mickey and Minnie Mouse are up on a balcony waving everyone Talk us through it Kylie There are lots of people here, but this is still magic hour, means it's only for disney hotel guests but um spirits are up i would say at this time of the day it gets worse as the day goes on hi mickey hey minnie can you wave edward's waving edward's waving at mickey mouse oh hey mickey edward's pretty excited about mickey mouse actually wave we're waving and pointing at mickey when you first walk in it does feel kind of magical like it feels it feels different to

reality because all the music's playing and everything's so immaculate so it is it does feel like you're in a special place that's not the real world. Right. It does have a bit of that about it. That kind of then goes away as reality sets in. Like the lines and food and walking and stuff. And like early in the day is quite a happy place. It's quite a happy place.

And because we were staying at a Disney hotel near the site, we were able to go in a bit earlier than the masses before it becomes really heaving. And it's a bit calmer then. But within a few hours, you start noticing everyone, like, no one looks happy there. Everyone looks kind of like they're struggling. Everyone looks kind of miserable,

except when they're taking their selfies and their photos. So, they're just dealing with getting the job done of Disneyland. So, like, it has this sort of happiest place on earth. And it's really well done, you know. They do everything well. Everything looks good and is neat and on time and runs smoothly. It's like Disney do it well. But there's just lots of people and lots of people with kids i'll tell you what it reminds me of i'll tell you what disneyland

reminds me of an airport right but worse because i was thinking about this what why are airports terrible right why is being in an airport terrible? Being in airports is terrible because there's lots of people. Everyone has something they want to do, somewhere they need to get. Yeah. Something they want. They're very selfish. Everyone's selfish and is in it for themselves. I need to get my flight.

I want to get to the front of the queue so I get the best luggage rack. I want this people are unfamiliar with where they are they don't know how it works because you don't go to airports that often so what screen do i need to look at where's the gate how does this work so everyone's kind of a bit confused and stopping all the time and getting in each other's way so the airport brings all these problems together to make it an unpleasant experience. Disneyland is exactly the same. Everyone's selfish. Everyone wants to get on the ride for them. People haven't been there before. They don't know how the queues work.

There's too many of them. But it's also combined with the fact there's a billion kids and there's a billion prams. So, it becomes it becomes even so it's like it's like the worst of an airport with a few extra bad things added in it's got a few nice things added into like you know rides and stuff but but like i had i had a great time yeah most importantly edward had a great time well he was wheeled around everywhere that's right yeah or walked around and stuff but you know as you'd expect some of the things he liked most weren't the big disney things they were things you could have done anywhere like buying him like a bubble blower that blew bubbles in the air and he was like oh this is fantastic or seeing a card an old-fashioned car drive past and

he was like oh wow car that's a car i could just take him out on the road and he gets just as excited looking at cars. All things that could have happened at home, yeah. Yeah. Can I just say I really love your analogy of the airport or your analysis of the airport, and maybe that's something we can return to at some stage because I've often thought about why airports feel like the most self-conscious, incubating, weird place.

That's an interesting topic in itself. But the way you've described it which is effectively it's like a kid's birthday party as big as an airport is it's like a yeah it's a kid's it's an overcrowded kid's birthday party held at an airport in an airport yeah it's all kicking off now we've got an old jalopy police car going past edward loves the car blowing a kiss to mickey mouse where do you want to go now where do you It's all kicking off now, we've got an old jalopy police car going past. Edward loves a car. Blowing a kiss to Mickey Mouse!

Where do you want to go now? Where do you want to go now? Alright, we're right near the castle now. My assessment of what Disneyland Paris is like is it's smaller than I expected. I was naive and thought that it would be quiet because it's school time but it's not it's absolutely nuts and with a toddler it's it's probably harder because he's just running around hard to control and basically I'm trying to stop him from hitting his face on the ground but the rides are fun um oh that's brady that's frontierland where the boat goes from um i think

my tips would be do it in chunks like we're staying in a hotel that's about a 10 to 15 minute walk away i'd love to stay in the hotel that's right here so you can do a little bit go home do a little bit go home um because it is a bit overwhelming isn't it it's hard for the little man because he gets tired ideal age for this place is we decided four to eight yes i agree um but we've had a good time we're about to go into the castle i'll take a picture taking a picture without a thousand other people in it is like the holy grail of disneyland even more so than airports i've never been to a place that's more every person for themselves in terms of people just cut in front of you and walk around and are oblivious to the rest of the world and are distracted.

I'd like to know how this compares to the America one because I don't think that, how do I say this diplomatically, that Europeans are as jolly as Americans. So, wow. It'll be interesting to see whether it's a lot more art. I found it interesting that you said, you know, you grew up with the world of Disney, so you've got this fascination with Disneyland. Another thing I found interesting about Disneyland,

and I find it interesting more about Mickey Mouse, and that is, like, there are lots of Disney movies I like. You know, I love, like, Finding Nemmo and the lion king and stuff like that and more recently i've got into a few more like i love moana i love frozen i love disney movies but i've never really been into mickey mouse yeah mickey mouse has never really felt like part of my life i don't really remember him from my childhood like watching mickey mouse shows or movies and yet he's incredibly famous he's like omnipresent mickey mouse i've known who mickey mouse was it feels like since i was born and mickey mouse is strange like that he's almost to me he's almost famous just for being famous like i don't i like i don't know

his work it's like it's like a really famous musician who I don't know any of their songs, but I know they're famous. Yeah. I wonder if a comparison is someone like James Dean, who is sort of omnipresent and iconic, but you kind of never watch his stuff, you know. Yeah, he did like three films and no one's watching them yet. Yeah.

And when you do, they're rubbish. Yeah. But also like, and yet he is like the man you want to see at Disneyland. Like, whenever you see him, it's like, that's the ultimate celebrity spotting. Oh, look, there's Mickey. Yeah. And you become so caught up in the cult of it that, like, all you want to do is buy Mickey Mouse merchandise. And I was the same.

Oh, I've got to buy a Mickey Mouse. I've got to buy Mickey Mouse this, Mickey Mouse that. Like, suddenly I just became completely obsessed with Mickey Mouse. I've got to buy Mickey Mouse this, Mickey Mouse that. Suddenly, I just became completely obsessed with Mickey Mouse. And yet, Mickey Mouse means nothing to me. I love all the other characters way more. But Mickey Mouse just becomes this crazy obsession. That's fascinating. That's great.

Oh, that sounds exhausting and marvellous. Yes. It was also interesting, the fact that it's French, so lots of stuff's in French. Like we went and saw a Frozen show, because Edward quite likes Frozen, and it was this weird hybrid of a little bit of English and a little bit of French, and it made me wonder, who's the audience here?

Oh, yeah. Is it foreign tourists? Are they French people? The language thing was a bit weird, the way they mixed the French and the English. You know, I don't want to be that guy that walks in and expects everyone to speak English to me when I'm in France. But it was sometimes the use of English and French was strange. I would say it was more English than French, but then occasionally things would just turn completely French.

Because on the other hand, it's a total American import. Obviously, it's this American kingdom idea with all American characters. Yeah. We're about to watch The Carousel, which is one of Edward's favourite things to watch. I've decided not to go on it because I don't want to go round and round. Our biggest problem with going on rides is Kylie's motion sickness more than anything. Kylie's looking at a little app with the map, figuring out how long the queues are. It's a very high tech experience these days, Disneyland. I'll tell you what this experience is like.

It's a constant fear that you're missing out. So I'm just looking now at a ride that people are queuing for to see if I wanna do it. Ride a mine cart through the magical land of Snow White and discover how the seven dwarves helped her defeat the evil queen. Why aren't we on that one? That sounds good. It may frighten younger guests.

Well, hang on. Here goes the merry-go-round. It's starting now. It's turning. Yay! Look. What do you see? What noise does a horse make?

Neigh. That's right. Would you like to go on that, Edward? Do you want Daddy to take you on the carousel? Yeah, we could go on, actually. Look. And if we go side by side and then you stand up like like those people yeah let's do that because daddy can stand up next to you and i think we should go i think we should go on the snow white ride but i

we uh discovered something yesterday that you can pay to skip a queue and yes that's not the most ideal use of money i understand that and my mum would say that is most ideal use of money. I understand that. And my mum would say that is a total waste of money, Kylie. But when you've got a toddler, queuing is not fun. And I'd rather not eat my lunch rather than queue. How do you know? Yeah, should we go on the horse? Let's go and line up for the horse.

Come on then. Yeah, should we go on the horse? Let's go and line up for the horse. Come on then. I thought it was the rides were a bit pokier and smaller and less impressive than I imagined. It was more like lots of them just felt like quite fairground level. It didn't feel like next level, oh, wow, these are multi-million dollar rides.

Who made these? Right. Like Disneyland has some like big kick-ass rides. Disneyland Paris didn't feel like it had as many which was fine for me because i was i wasn't there for me i wouldn't have gone on them anyway i was going on all the peaky rides with my little two-year-old so i didn't mind i liked that i liked that there were so many rides he could do i thought oh am i gonna not be able to do anything because i'm with the short dude but he could go on loads of of stuff that we couldn't go on all the rides he could have gone on.

So, that was good for me. But if I was going there as an adult, like I saw lots of adults there, like couples, like couples in their 20s that were obviously there on a holiday or stuff. And they were lining up for the same rides as me. And you're lining up all this time to go on a ride. And then the ride lasts 90 seconds. It's amazing how short they lasted. And they were really uneventful rides. They were really like safe, calm rides.

And then I got off them. And I thought, well, that's fine. I got a nice picture with my boy and he liked it. But if I was like in my 20s and this was like my holiday and I just lined up all that time as like an adult, I'd be like really disappointed. Is the lining up really long? Is it like like is it really yeah yes not as bad as america the lining up was bad but there is everyone always talks about the ability to skip queues these special what this the special passes you can get you can get this

pass for 90 euros that lets you skip the queue on each ride once we didn't get one of those but there's this other thing you can because we weren't going to go on enough rides but the other thing you can do is you can do it like on a one on one basis on the app so if you get to a ride and there's a 30 30 45 minute queue you can go on the app and you can buy a pass this premier pass and you pay money and the amount of money changes depending on the ride and the time of day but it could be like 10 euros and then instead of going on the ride for free you pay 10 euros each and then it gives you a time that you can come back and the time is usually pretty soon like come back in 20 minutes and you can go through the special door into a different

queue that gets you on the ride quicker and i've done that in America, a version of it in America. And it just felt like you were getting in another queue that was still a bit long, but not as long. Right. But at Disneyland Paris, it was like golden. You were like, doing this got you on the ride within a minute or two. Right. So, it was like, it was powerful.

And when you're there with a two-year-old and you don't want to stand in a queue for 30 minutes, it was like, yes, I'm willing to spend money on this problem. My attitude was, I'm not going to be here all day because I'm with a two-year-old who's going to want to go home and have a nap after three hours. Yes. So, I figured, well, I'm not going to be buying lots of food. I'm not going to be buying lots of hot dogs and drinks all day because I'm going to be leaving soon. Yeah.

So, maybe what I'm saving on hot dogs, I'll spend on skipping one or two. I only used it um three times yeah because most of the time the queues were short enough that i was willing i was like 20 minutes 15 minutes i'll wait and because we were there early in the day the queues are shorter too so i did i did it three times i guess what i'm saying is it it provided more value than i expected i thought uh because you can't see the queue like sometimes it's like there's a door you're like, am I just going to be joining some other queue hidden behind this door? Because Disney is quite good at hiding queues. Right.

But in America, that's what happened. I thought I was getting doing the VIP and I ended up in some another big queue. But here it felt like, wow, this really is express. There's something that's always confused me about the rides at Disneyland that, you know, how there's you go to like our royal show, which is like a carnival. And there are the rides are sort of physical experiences, climb into this cage and be thrown around the place or get onto this big ship and go back and forward. things at Disneyland, like the things, whatever they Space Mountain is and whatever the Michael Jackson ride was on that or the Harry Potter, they seem like more shows or experiences, like you're walking into a room and stuff's happening around about you

and you go, oh, wow, and then walk out the other side. Like, are they rides or are they kind of immersive shows? There's a mixture. It's a mixture. Right. In America, there are some good throw-you-around rides, but there weren't many of them in Paris. There were a few immersive things that were more, yeah,

illusions and tricking you with pictures on screens, but they more just felt like things you sat on and watched the world go by a little bit. Like, the ride I liked the most, and Edward liked the most, was this one called It's a Small World, and you just got in a little boat that went around this river this little river that was in like this massive massive warehouse and as you went along the river there were little dioramas everywhere of little models from different countries oh now we're going through australia and there's some kangaroos and some people with boomerangs and

and there were just little models of little cute dolls like hello we're australia oh now we're going to holland and there's some windmills and people dressed as dutch dutch people and like you know now we're in america like and that was like yeah you were not you weren't being thrown around you were just going around and seeing stuff Is it in print? That sounds like obvious. Or is it just enjoyable because it's like done well? They do those things well. Yeah.

It is obvious. It's not for you. It's not designed for us. It's for kids. Yeah, right. It was for kids. Yeah, yeah. But it was done well and there was lots to see.

And it was, yeah. It really, it really, Disneyland Paris rides really did remind me just of like a local fair that comes to town, except the rides were cleaner and looked safer. Yeah, yeah. And they're run by like a person in a costume for a character rather than, you know, a sort of a Neanderthal guy in overalls. You're not quite sure he's paying attention. For a character rather than, you know, a sort of a Neanderthal guy in overalls. You're not quite sure he's paying attention. The parade was very good. At the end of the day, the parade with some various floats and Disney characters on it.

That was really good. Is it every day they have a parade at the end of the day? Yeah, sometimes multiple times a day. And there are different shows on. There's lots going on. There's lots going on. Like, you won won't be bored there's always something to do and the parades were really good like down the street and that like remember when we went to warner brothers movie world right and there was the batman ride so when you're going to buy lunch it was like a bat burger or something weird is the food like everything's shaped like mickey mouse

is it right mickey mouse pizzas mickey mouse waffles like everything's shaped like mickey mouse is it right mickey mouse pizzas mickey mouse waffles yeah everything's shaped like mickey mouse do you think they're in danger of making it a commercial experience yeah all right people join us live now as we actually do the do the ride I've got the microphone clipped on come on Edward come to daddy yep I got you all right here we go military operation of getting on a ride I don't hold the microphone which horsey? Blue! You want that blue horsey? That's a big horse that one Blue!

Blue! that blue horsey that's a big horse that one yeah okay we're putting on your seatbelt here it comes easy you hold Edward it's like I'll hold him as well so Edwards on his horsey mummies getting on the horsey next door. Wow look at that. Daddy's holding Edward in the middle standing up. We need a wider angle don't we for that? We're going! Yeah you're up really high Edward! We're going around. Up and down we go. Up and down. And up.

And down. If we can leave the pram where it is, we can go straight to that Snow White. All right, we're going straight from the carousel to the Snow White ride. Yeah, there's Dumbo. Yeah. You've been on the Dumbo ride. So your girls want to go, do they? Oh, yeah, and one in particular is really, really interested in Disney, like its history and, you know, the cartoons and the drawing.

But, of course, you know, the parks, the lands and the worlds and how they work and how they operate. She's really interested in all that because it sounds like quite a big operation in terms of actually running the thing and maintaining it and yeah that's all that stuff that is interesting you go in with that as an adult the logistics how do they do logistics and stuff and like that also sounds exhausting yeah but there you go well i'll tell you like not if we can go if we can sort of segue to an idea for a podcast my first idea is is actually not not a million miles away from what you've said although it's more closer to home my podcast idea is called my happy place oh it's my happy place

but it's not like a big fantasy happy place like say disneyland might be doesn't sound like it's quite your happy place but you know it might be edward's happy place um like it's quite your happy place, but, you know, it might be Edward's happy place. Yeah. It's a more local one. So I was actually thinking that a podcast that explored maybe four happy places you've had that are kind of domestic, you know, like at home. Like so in your childhood, in your teen years, like in your as like a young adult. And then now. Yeah yeah what is a happy place that you go to regularly that you just love being there it's the like when you're standing in line

at disneyland it's like oh i wish i was back and you're thinking of that spot you know go on then tell me your happy places all right my my my childhood happy place was on the lawn in the backyard so just nice being in the backyard on the lawn i used to set up a little tent a blue tent and sleep out there i used to kick the football to myself because i'm an only child so and i'd kick it around and play i'd mow that lawn play on the lawn we'd have barbecues and i'd sit and eat on the lawn kids parties on the lawn so the backyard lawn was my happy place as a child what's your what was yours as a child i haven't had time to prepare the tim has just sprung this idea on me but going off tim's inspiration my neighbor's backyard the smith family their backyard was where we played our backyard cricket.

That was like my MCG. That's where all my childhood cricket was playing. So, probably my happiest place was the Smith's backyard, which I remember every tree and plant and where you'd hit the ball and where you could hit it over the fence and stuff. So, it would probably be the Smith's backyard. I actually called it, lived in this uh street called kursley avenue so i called it the kcg the kursley cricket ground the smith's backyard so probably probably that because i was i was obsessed with backyard cricket i don't i haven't talked about it much on the podcast but i kept i kept these notebooks on the smith family barbecue

i put them on the... I rested them on the barbecue and I kept all our stats. So, every time someone got out, just playing backyard cricket with a tennis ball, three or four of us, I would like record how that person got out and how many runs they made and stuff. And then I would bring out these annual reports of everyone's batting averages and stats because I was obsessed with cricket stats. of everyone's batting averages and stats because I was obsessed with cricket stats.

So, like, I was obsessed with backyard cricket and I loved playing at the KCG, their backyard. And we'd play at 10 in the morning because we weren't allowed to play before 10 because otherwise we would have started too early. So, our parents had said, you can't play cricket until 10 in the morning. So, like, at about 9.50, I would go to the front of my house and stand on the road and my friend would go to the front of his house and stand on the road. We just look at each other for 10 minutes. And as soon as it was 10 o'clock, we'd walk towards each other and go, let's go play cricket.

But the problem was the Smith family were all boys and like were quite tempestuous with each other and they would end up having a fight. And then when they had a fight, their mum would say, okay, cricket stops now. Both go to your rooms. Brady, you have to go home while the boys go to their rooms. And a fight would always happen within an hour or so. So, I'd want to play cricket for hours and hours. But I knew I had until the Smith boys had a fight and got sent to their rooms, which was normally around 10.30.

The first fight would happen. But my happy place was that. That's cool. You know, I've heard so many stories about your next-door neighbour's backyard that I actually have a mental picture of it. Like, I can picture it. I've never been there, obviously. I've never been to your house where you grew up.

But I have a mental picture of your neighbour's backyard and you playing cricket there and the stories that you've told me over the years. That's great. My other happy place, and I'm sorry for being greedy and taking two, but you just reminded me of it when you said the backyard lawn, was I have really happy memories of, we had a swimming pool in our backyard. So, I grew up with a swimming pool. And for that reason, swimming was not like a big novelty to me. My friends would come around and all they'd want to do was go in the swimming pool and i was like oh let's go and play cricket but uh but i did like swimming in the pool getting cooling down and then going to the front

of the house and lying on our concrete driveway which has been baking in the sun yes and if it was hot if it was not too hot but very hot you could just lie there and sunbake on the hot concrete or put a towel down and see how long you could sit on the concrete for before it got too hot. I love just lying and sunbaking on the concrete. Usually lying on my tummy, like, you know, facing down. Yeah, I can relate to that. That's fantastic.

I can't believe you did that growing up in Adelaide, though. It's so hot here. I was doing that in country Victoria, but over here i mean ridiculous gosh yeah sometimes it was too hot you couldn't even touch the concrete but sometimes it was just right all right so moving on quickly then to our teenage years so my teenage happy place i'd have to say was the church like on friday nights finishing school and going to our youth group, like we had a Friday night youth group. And I'd go there as soon as I could and then go and get like chicken and chips to eat from the Golden Wishbone down Marion Road and come back. But then on Friday night was a youth group like with a rock band and, you know, just people.

And I would that I just lived for it. I just loved, loved being at the church and loved being amongst those people and they were like older people like young adults with their licenses and then would drive and get a coffee afterwards and they were very kind to me and i loved it what kind of age are we talking here for me i'm trying to well this is teenager so i this for me would have been from 14 15 15, 16, 17 I don't know That's a hard one Pretty much still backyard cricket

The Kersleys I think it's still cricket related Yeah Playing cricket on Saturdays The Boca Street Cricket Oval Where we played our home games as a junior I would say Boca Street

Yeah And I also played a lot of Like football, soccer there at Boca Street I'm going to say the Boca Street, yeah. And I also played a lot of football, soccer there at Boca Street. I'm going to say the Boca Street Oval, which has a cricket ground and a football pitch, like a soccer pitch. So a lot of my happiest memories in my teen years are from cricket matches at the Boca Street Oval. I scored my first 50, 52 not out.

Great innings. Playing for who? Playing for your school team or a local club? No, it was for Brighton Cricket Club. So I'd played for a cricket club separately from the school. Right. So, Bowker Street, Cricket Oval. And right next to the Cricket Oval, there was a football pitch.

And I had some really memorable games there. Especially a couple of cup games at night where where we won unexpected games and things like that when i was before before i went to the school that you and i went to when we had a rubbish team yeah i used to play for a good team and we played a lot of games at boker street oval i'm going boker street oval in uh just off uh diagonal road nice nice it's funny you mentioned brighton you were with the bright Cricket Club because moving into young adult years, my happy place that came to mind for me was Brighton Beach, but not on the beach, in my car.

I loved, particularly in winter, just taking and going and sitting at Brighton Beach and reading in the car. I remember going there at night time. If I couldn't sleep, I'd get nice coffee and just drive down to Brighton Beach and just like sit on the rocks and stuff. I just loved being by myself at Brighton Beach. I used to, this is, I can't, this sounds so funny now. I used to go to the library and borrow.

They had all these back issues of like rolling stone from like before the years when i would buy rolling stone and i'd borrow from the library these rolling stone magazines like five of them and then drive down to brighton beach and just sit there and read these rolling stones from years and years ago and that with an iced coffee still feels like what i feel like doing right now. Like, that is fantastic. I'm going to go for my, like, 20s, my happy place being Bernardi's, the bar. Bernardi's, yeah. Yeah, so the advertiser building where it used to be,

it's not there anymore, was connected to a pub, which was called The Criterion. And then it got taken over by an Adelaide guy who was a politician called Corey Bernardi. That's right. He renamed it Bernardis. And when I started becoming a cadet journalist at the Advertiser, it was called Bernardis. Yes.

And I'd never been to like pubs and been drinking before and things like that very much. And I was the youngest cadet in my cadet group. So all my fellow cadets were a bit more experienced than me and would go to the pub drinking and sort of introduced me to that kind of lifestyle of you know going out for a drink and socializing at the pub and it was always really good fun it was a real sort of coming in age time for me bernardy's then bernardy then sold it and it became the criterion again

right we would still go there but it was no longer called bernardis but i just remember it being called bernardis during those few years those first year or two so uh now i don't know if it's still there the criteria no it's all gone yeah it's gone hasn't yeah yeah the the building's demolished and there's something else being built that's smaller and differently yeah yeah that whole that whole corner where the advertiser building's all gone as well of course they built a new one yes i know the advertiser buildings um went but i didn't know if bernardy's it probably did yeah because it was connect anyway i'm gonna say i'm gonna say bernardy's although more of i probably went to it as the criterion pub more than bernardy's but i'm gonna call it bernardy's because that name just evokes the memories of being a young cadet and going and trying

a madurian lemonade for the first time and uh yeah i do yeah i didn't think of that as a venue around town that's cool like there are some like theberton theater some really great gigs that's i didn't think of that but that is a really good idea too yeah some fantastic seeing jeff buckley at the um and nick cave a bunch of times of course at the theberton theater that is pretty cool, that feels like home to go there as well too. All right. What about now? So now I'm going to say my apartment. My happy place is being on the couch reading.

And I'll say like either reading and then falling asleep in the afternoon, just with the family around, or super early in the morning. I love getting up really early and getting up and reading or watching a movie or something. But yeah, just getting up early, making coffee with my wonderful coffee machine and just being in the house, being in the apartment with my family there. That is, that's heaven. That's wonderful. That's a happy place my happy place now i mean when you're the dad of a two-year-old you may remember probably my happiest place is bed yes

when i can sleep if i can sleep there is an italian little italian restaurant right near my house that has a pasta dish that i really like, that I customise the way I like it. I have it a bit different to how they serve it. And I quite like sometimes just going there on my own. People don't eat there on their own very much because it's like a restaurant, but I just sometimes just go there on my own and I order this same dish all the time. And all the waiting staff there know that I have this different dish and it's a bit of a joke amongst them, I think, that, oh, there's that guy that orders that same thing every time. And they always bet, is he going to order it again?

And I always do. What's the dish? Tell us the dish. It's just a carbonara. They do like a spaghetti carbonara, like a carbonara sauce, but I have it as a penne. Oh, yeah. So, I don't like spaghetti as a pasta.

So, I say, can I have the carbonara but with penne instead of spaghetti? And they know that's what I always do. Yeah, you like penne so nice nice nice we would love we would love to hear from all you civilians about your four happy places go onto the reddit or send us an email unmadefm at gmail.com or you know where our subreddit is and tell us your four happy places and why maybe we'll share a few of them i'd love to know other people's happy places this by the way is a great podcast idea tim obviously we've just done it we've just done our own little we have we have it it's but i would love to hear it's so heartwarming to listen to isn't it it's like it's so great yeah yeah nice yeah tell us your happy places and nice segue from the happiest place

on earth as well you're podcasting well tim thank you thank you thank you very much i'd like to thank the academy yeah should we do some parish notices oh really we've not done them yet let's go no i like to do an idea first now before we do the parish notices. Okay. All right. Nice podcasting, Brady. I want to know, have you gone back to the Golden North Rum and Raisin Ice Cream after you're being burned by your almost raisinless tub recently? I have. I took the voucher. We used the voucher to buy another tub of rum and raisin as we were supposed to do so you could have used that voucher to buy anything could you it was just at the supermarket you didn't have to use it that's right a golden north product i know that would have lacked some

integrity though having received it for that purpose so um plus plus you when it comes to ice cream tim is a man of integrity i am a integrity. Plus, there's nothing else I want to buy. And how was this tub? Did you get sufficient raisins? Well, I tell you, the question comes to mind, can you have too many raisins? That's the question for this tub. Because it was almost like they had heard and compensated in this one tub for the last tub.

There was a massive cluster of raisins further down. And I was actually like, oh, this is funny. I can't wait to tell Brady about this because there literally are too many raisins. Like, there's too many raisins. You should write another letter to Golden North about it. Tell them what happened. See if you get another voucher. It was like the mother load.

It was amazing. This could be the ice cream tub that never ends. They just keep sending you vouchers and you just keep buying another tub. That's true. I could live off this forever. That's a fantastic idea. There were so many. I don't want to overplay it, but there were so many raisins, right,

that across the two tubs, like if you were to average it out across the two tubs it still felt like there were slightly too many raisins overall you know what i mean like more than normal that's how many were in the first one in the second one and yet um as we know it was a desert a dessert desert in the first one so couldn't have scripted that better well the quest for the perfect tub continues by the sounds of it. Of course, I have been having the perfect tubs for many, many years, very, very happily until this recent little episode of dearth and then overcompensation. But we'll see.

Maybe things will even out after this. But love it. I also contacted Golden North as well and asked them the question that you asked me to ask about whether it was possible to do a tour to inspect the raisin situation for myself the logistics the behind the scenes um and they have not replied they've not replied no no which come on golden north i i just assume they're busy i just assume they're busy with the raisins and whoever answers the they're dealing with a raisin crisis by the sounds of it.

It's all hands to the pump. So, yeah, but that was very pleasurable. Still love it. I actually, we branched out and bought some boysenberry because that's my other flavor that I love. That was delicious as usual. Love the boysenberry. Happy with the ratios there? Yep.

Yep. No, perfect. lovely, beautiful. That tub's gone now, so it's time certainly to go shopping again for the rum and raisin. So I'll keep you updated to be continued. Always, always. In a recent episode, Tim talked about dream locations for doing a podcast.

And we heard from avatars1027 with what I thought was quite a good idea. So I thought I'd share it. This was from the subreddit. Tim's idea for dream locations could be made even better if the hosts were in different but related places and talk about the related subject from the two points of view. For example, both the North and South Poles, an Earth sandwich, or the peak of Everest and the bottom of the Mariana Trench. More realistically, the start and finish lines of a famous race, the top and bottom of a tall building, or opposing capitals of a past war, etc.

That's a nice idea. That's a nice idea. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Like it. Of course, the start and finish lines of many races is the exact same spot. They'd be standing, would be standing next to each other.

Yeah, you wouldn't want to do that like on a racing track. No. Like, you know, like Silverstone or something. You'd want to do it like maybe like a marathon or something. Or the Tour de France. Or Paris to Dakar. We talked about leap days, and I bemoaned that there weren't many interesting deaths on leap days.

I ended up sort of scratching the bottom of the barrel, and I think, who was it? It was Pat Garrett, wasn't it? The guy who shot Billy the Kid. Yeah. I ended up using him. Anyway, we heard from an owl flying who said, you talked about how no one really big has died on a leap day.

Turns out Brian Mulroney, an important Prime Minister of Canada that ruled in the 1980s and 90s, I remember him as the Prime Minister of Canada, he just died on this leap day, a somewhat tragic coincidence. Oh, there you go. Yeah. But still not a big name. I mean, a significant person for Canadians, surely.

But in world affairs, it's not like the United States. You know what I mean? Like, again, it's a middle country. That's what I'm saying. A middle-sized country. Oh, man, that's a big thing to say with our big Canadian listenership. Oh, in unmade law law they are the capitals surely i think brian malroni's probably like you know i probably couldn't have named him i probably

didn't remember it until they had my memory jogged in fairness but he is like one i'd heard of like you know he's a big prime minister well he's a big prime minister of my childhood he is but yeah look look he is he is he's not mickey, is he? Like, he might be, is it Pluto? Like, he's not. He's not. What an insult to the people of Canada that one of their most famous prime ministers, and you're saying, he's no Mickey Mouse. That should be a compliment that he's not Mickey Mouse.

He's a serious person, but. I mean, calling someone Mickey Mouse is normally an insult, isn't it? Like, oh, he he's not Mickey Mouse. He's a serious person, but... I mean, calling someone Mickey Mouse is normally an insult, isn't it? It is. Oh, he's a bit Mickey Mouse. That's right. Not Brian Mulroney, though. He's not Mickey Mouse. He's less.

He's not even Mickey Mouse. Oh, dear. I'm sure he was... Oh, well, I don't... I have no idea, but he was obviously a significant person to his family, close friends, and many Canadians. Yes. Just not Tim. a significant person to his family close friends and many canadians yes just not tim well i'm saying he's not it's not like winston churchill i'm saying in terms of you know we talked about famous people and famous leaders it's not like okay abraham lincoln died in a

leap year we'd go oh wow that's incredible but then you okay we talked about you you specifically mentioned that there's lots of people you know that we said it wasn't billy the kid it was pat garrett many years later we go oh yeah though that makes sense it's like oh yeah the canadian prime minister just to let people know million dollar podcast is still chugging away with new little additions uh go and check it out if you like the banjo lady got in in touch and said, I've been enjoying the Million Dollar Podcast. I check it every so often to see if there's something new. I get the same feeling as a kid checking the cookie pot and finding fresh baked chocolate chip cookies.

Clicking on the links is a bonus fun as well. So go and check it out, people. It's this piece of audio that's ever-growing as things are added to it. And I bring it up as well because loads of people have bought time like they've bought like a five second slot or a 10 second slot and then haven't sent me the audio yet like and i don't know what's going on like if something's going wrong with the process or something but check out the link in the description if you've bought time on the million dollar podcast and haven't sent me the audio yet at least tell me why you're not sending it because i don't know what's going on we've got the money that's like

going through a kfc drive-thru ordering paying and they're just driving off without picking up your food that's great exactly exactly and if you would like to buy a slot on the million dollar podcast you can still do that too and submit some audio there's some really fun additions or if you want to buy a slot and not send the audio, that seems to be a thing that people enjoy. So you can do that too if you like. Go and check out the links. I just want to shout out,

I got quite a long email from someone named Julian who's from France but now lives in New Jersey. And he actually works for Storyblocks, our former sponsor. They haven't sponsored us for a while. May that sponsorship rest in peace. We're open to rekindling it because I really enjoyed doing Storyblocks ads, but we don't do those anymore.

But Julian works at Storyblocks. And he actually, I think he knew of us. He first heard of Storyblocks from us. And then he ended up working there and thought it was really exciting. And he sort of talks to colleagues at Storyblocks about the Unmade podcast. So keep up the good work, Julian. I really enjoyed your message. I won't read it all because, I don't know,

I don't want to give Storyblocks too much free advertising. But he also did send a couple of SofaShop covers. He says, as a token of appreciation and to add to the sofa shop cover law i've included two covers a french adaptation and a jaw harp cover which might be the same level as tim's cover of money for nothing i hope you enjoy it so uh i won't play the whole thing but here's a little bit of the French one. Choisis le tissu, les rideaux qui vont bien. Le sofa shop, ça va pas coûter ce que vous pensez. And here's a little bit of the jaw harp. And Julian sent like a video of him playing it.

It's a very odd instrument. I hadn't seen it in action before, I don't think. You familiar with the jaw harp, Tim? No, no. What is a jaw harp? It's jaw harp, Tim? No. No, what is a jaw harp? It's a harp, obviously. It's this little... It's this tiny little thing.

I'll send you a picture later. All right. And speaking of the sofa shop, this came from Tanaka. I'm writing as a satisfied enjoyer of the Unmade podcast. Thank you for providing me with the occasional giggle or distraction from a workout. People listen to the Unmade Podcast working out, Tim. I never think about that.

That's interesting. Yeah. Wow. I thought people would chill out, like, listening to us. Does it actually get people motivated? That's what I think. I don't think we're high energy enough. No.

But if you're working out right now and listening to it, go for it. Keep going. Higher. Go. Yes. Come on. there we go five more minutes five more five more work it four more feel the burn two more one more all right rest all right that was well done tub of ice cream uh tanaka continues i'm aware that you and reverend

hein are huge fans of the sofa shop jingle i love that your podcast brought it to my attention and i always enjoy the occasional listen whenever it comes to mind i wanted to bring your attention to another catchy parochial jingle as such i had to forward you a link to the tanganda tea jingle i happen to be from zimbabwe where everyone is very big on tea and takes it very seriously. The jingle I linked is a radio ad for Tanganda Tea, probably the most beloved tea brand in the country. The ad was initially perceived as a little cringy, but it randomly just ended up growing on everyone. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Tanganda is our tea Tanganda What a lovely day it is Tanganda is our tea

Tanganda What a lovely life it is Tanganda is our tea Tanganda What a lovely smile it brings Tanganda is our tea Tanganda Up, up, it lifts you up

It lifts you up Up, up, it lifts you up It lifts you up. Up, up. It lifts you up. It lifts you up. Up, up. It lifts you up. It lifts you up. Up, up. It lifts you up.

It lifts you up. It's more than just tea. It reigns supreme. Tanganda tea. It lifts you up. This is awesome. I love this. This is actually...

Like it? It's a mood lifter. It's like, it's a happy song, isn't it? It's lovely. It's good. It's good. Is it as lame as The Sofa Shop? No.

I don't know. It's too nice and poppy. Like, I kind of want to listen to it again. Yeah. It's not. It doesn't have the sophisticated word play that the sofa shop no song has i think it's certainly a more serious work a denser work uh the sofa shop but um i'd also love to see where halifax street could be

inserted somewhere in too but um yeah but it's lovely it's like it reminds me of an 80s pop song tanaka continues their jingle was absolutely infectious and i can recall unironically singing it lifts you up at school with all the boys the ad played on every radio station in the morning and i recall humorously and slightly traumatically me and my mum would use it as a marker for how late we were on the drive to school. But I digress. Have a lovely day. Tanaka. Nice. Thank you, Tanaka, for drawing our attention. If you have a really crappy advertising jingle you would like to send in, I guess you can. I probably wouldn't play them all. I played this one because it was from

Zimbabwe and my dad grew up in Zimbabwe, I have a bit of a link to the country so yeah cool that's nice fantastic well very quickly Tim we're going to do like a 30 second version of I forgot and the reason we're quickly doing it now is I forgot to do it at the start when we talked about Disney I bought a Disneyland Paris spoon uh it's here and i'm opening it now fantastic it was the only one i could find let me guess let me guess it's got mickey mouse on the cover no i couldn't find a mickey mouse one no way unbelievably i was really disappointed they also have a really disappointing range of snow globes at euro disney because we buy snow globes for uh all the places that we visit with our little boy uh and i was i did get a mickey

mouse snow globe though but here's the euro disney one it's the castle i'm holding it up oh yeah i'd say there'll be a picture in the show notes oh geez you want to be careful with that you could dab yourself with it yeah golly it is it is it's got a very the top of the castle where this turret is is very pointy it's even pointier than it looks on the screen too. You're right. That is super sharp. I'm stabbing myself with it right now. That could be handy though for like picking up little bits of cheese and eating. You could use both ends.

Yes. Or like stabbing yourself in the eyes at the end of like 12 hours at a Disneyland theme park. And you're just wanting it to be over. But no. There we go. Spoon of the week. Nice.

And speaking of which, it's time for our prizes. Tim, I ran a bit of a poll during the week about how people felt about your idea that we've incorporated recently of having nominees, like nominations, like at the Oscars, where we read out names of Patreon supporters who were nominated to win a prize. And then we narrow it down to the ones who actually get the prize.

How do you think the vote went? Well, I always thought this would be a pretty popular idea because people would like to get mentioned. And then I remember we got some cautionary feedback that people didn't like it. But I think on the whole, though, surely people are going to like it. They're going to be in favour of it. It was very 50 50 there were a lot of comments that one for the longest time we had hundreds of votes and for the longest time the vote was actually 50 50 50 50 to the point where i thought maybe people were

rigging it i think in the end people were in slightly in favor of it but but it was like in the 50s it wasn't it wasn't a big majority. And I think much like changing the constitution. Yeah. You can't just change things like the constitution based on like a narrow vote. It has to be like an overwhelming majority. There has to be a mandate. And I don't feel like we have a mandate for these nominations to read out. A lot of people don't like the tension of hearing the names read out

and then not winning. Right, yes. And a lot of people also just think, well, once we've read the nominations and they know they're not going to win, they don't care anymore, so they don't care about us saying who the winners are. So it's kind of a lose-lose situation. It also could set up the situation of sort of a John Wood, Logie situation where in Australia there's the actor John Wood who was nominated for the Gold Logie, which is in, it's just like the Australian Emmys, except even more crap.

And he was nominated year after year after year and never ever won. And someone might be finding themselves in that situation through pure coincidence do you think we should send john wood the actor one of our spoons to sort of make up for the fact you never got a logi do you perhaps if he would appreciate it he might check it out and enjoy the show i'll make a note i'll make a note to look up john wood's address and send him a spoon he was in famous Australian shows such as Blue Heelers and Rafferty's Rules Where he played a judge

Just one of those faces that's always been around Let me just check he never won I assume he never won If he did win I'm not sending him a spoon Oh no he did win What year did he win It must have been right after I've stopped taking notice He won several over the

years been nominated for several he run the you know all these other ones um blue healers he's nominated for the gold logi every year from 1997 to 2007 right after nine consecutive gold logi nominations without a win he was awarded the prize in 2006 okay there we go okay the logis is also like uh the gold log is like a popularity contest, isn't it? It's like done like a magazine, like magazine readers vote for it. So it's even less legit. There you go. Anyway, the point remains, though, we could set up someone to be a repeat nominee and...

Never give it to them. And it could be devastating for people because it means, it literally means more than the Logies. Yeah, it does. By the way, I've done a little bit of tweaking of the algorithm this week. So the algorithm does still favour people who are more generous or longer-term patrons because I think that's fair. But I've tweaked it a little bit so that if you're new,

you also have a slightly better chance. So, it's kind of... I'm just tweaking the dial slightly so that everyone, you know... So, it feels fair. It feels like people who've been a patron for a long time or who give a bit more have a slightly better chance, but new people have a chance to win stuff as well. And I think that's happened this week.

So, yeah. They should do that with the lines at Disneyland so that, like, people who have just arrived all fresh go straight in, whereas people who have been walking around for hours and hours untied have to wait even longer. They could just occasionally yank people out of the line and say the algorithm's just chosen you to go to the front of the queue That's a good idea

I do like it's a bit like at concerts you know Garth Brooks does that really cool thing where I think Billy Joel does it too where he doesn't sell the front row And at this before the concert he has people go up to the very very very back And get people and bring them right down the front Just randomly which is a lovely thing to do And that's what you're doing. You're lovely like that, man. I am lovely.

I like to think of myself as kind of the Billy Joel of this podcast. So an unmade podcast key ring is going to Sam from North Carolina, Durham. You're getting an unmade Podcast keyring. A Spoon, an Unmade Podcast Spoon is going to Demi from Victoria in Australia. And we are sending Spoon of the Week collector cards to Stephen from Markham in Ontario. Brad from, where are you from, Brad? What state is WV? Oh virginia brad from west virginia jesse from georgia and the us as well and peter from dorchester here in the uk cards thank you go to patreon.com slash unmade fm if you'd like to support our podcast it keeps

it going it lets us make more episodes but also you're in the running for prizes like this and your name's on our hall of fame and there are other and i put lots of bonus stuff on the patreon as well uh behind the scenes stuff pictures polls all sorts of stuff it's i try to make it worth your while and congratulations to all those who were nominated, unnamed, unnamed, but were nominated, who were in the running, everyone else, basically. That's everyone else. Literally everyone else on this occasion. So congratulations.

Everyone else whose name wasn't just read out, you can share in the disappointment. It was an honour just to be nominated, I'm sure. Got time for a podcast idea from me? Yes, we do. I'm going to do a bit of a more downbeat one after you did the happiest place one. And everyone at the gym goes,

I live near a lawn bowls club and I drive past it most days and they have these flag poles there and very often it seems the flags are at half mast. I imagine lawn bowls clubs probably maybe have a higher death rate than some other sporting clubs because of their demographic. I don't know. But it seems people die at the lawn bowls club and the flags are at half mast.

And every time I drive past, I look at the flag at half mast and I just think, I wonder who died. I wonder who they're paying tribute to. I wonder what their story is. You know, it's another person lost to our world who had a life full of stories and events and tales to tell. And for a few seconds, I think, I wonder who they were. So my podcast idea is called Half-Mast. And it's a podcaster who roams around the world,

and when they see flags at Half-Mast at some institution or club or place, they investigate. They find out who has passed, who's being paid tribute to, what is their story. So this is kind of, you know, obituaries, eulogies for people who've died, but not famous people, just people who are being remembered somewhere with a flag at half-mast. Ah, that's great, man.

I mean, I love this sort of stuff. Like it? Fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. I did a funeral last week, actually, for a really marvellous character, so I'm kind of in that headspace too. You're in that zone?

Yeah, yeah. I'm just thinking about him and um i i really it's a strange thing to say but it's such a meaningful thing to be involved in but thinking about that helps you to think about yourself and life with perspective all sorts of good things come out of even the deep you know grief associated with loss and existential questions. And remembering the people, that's a great way to do it. People could nominate people to be part of this podcast or you could choose them randomly

and people who others may not know of, because some funerals are very sparsely attended. This is a way of giving those people a level of connection and recognition of their story to a broader group of people. Good idea. Thank you. There's not much more to say, really. That's just my idea.

Do you have, at the two places you work, your church and the college, do you have flagpoles? Do you ever fly flags at half-mast? No. No, we don't. We did at the, when I was on the council, I was on the local government council, Mitcham Council, and we had three flags. And so that was something that happened, of course. And so it's a sort of an interesting, it would be fun to have a flagpole just to be able to make that gesture

because it is kind of a public gesture in some ways. It's a nice gesture. I like it. It's got lots of meaning because flags are already meaningful. And there's something about a flag at half-mast that is, like, sullen but also significant. It's a really nice tribute, the flag at half-mast. And everyone knows what it means.

It's a universal kind of statement. It does get politicised a little bit, though, doesn't it, when it's like, oh, should the flag be at half-mast? Like, like oh we didn't put the flag at half mast when so-and-so died are we going to put the flag at half mast when so-and-so dies like it does it can become a little bit politicized and a bit controversial sometimes but can't everything these days probably the most famous version of that that comes to mind is when princess diana died and people were really confused why the royal standard wasn't at half mast over buckingham palace and and the idea being oh no it wasn't the royal standard the idea was that no no that's that that's the that's the flag of the sovereign and

she's still alive and so but people were looking for that symbol hang on this is what we do we do flags at half mast they couldn't understand pretty upset about that oh yeah that was a mistake too i don't care about the traditions like they needed to like they needed to go all in with the sadness there well they did yeah because these it's it's pure symbolism but symbolism is a reflection of what's when it works symbolism is is a reflection of what's going on internally and people need to see the symbol to you know what i mean to reflect what's going on inside them and that's yeah that was an important gesture so symbols really really matter well there's not much more to say about my idea i just wanted to put it out there i'm glad i did uh tim and i this is i know this is a somber way to end the podcast have you got any secret words to dig us out of this sad moment? No. No, I'm sorry.

No secret words. No, it's a real downer. No. If you're at the gym now, this is hard yakka right now. You'll just be feeling tired. You're in wind down now. No, if you're in the gym now, you can get ready to stop. And for wind down, as you go to do your stretches afterwards and maybe have a sneaky muffin at the uh at the shop

you can go to the you can go to the request room which is where our patreon supporters go for some extra content that tim and i do after the show i have here some requests from patreon supporters and we will be dealing with some of them in the request room we may even be having a musical performance from tim that's right i have brought the guitar along. I have something prepared. I can't say more. So, patreon.com slash unmade FM, if you want to check out what's happening in the request room. But for now, thank you for listening.

Thank you for listening. The most traditional way of ending something ever. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you guys out at Radio Land. I'm old school. Yeah, signing off. Yep.

Tune in next time. You happy with that one? It was all right. It ended on a bit of a downer, didn't it? I'm sorry about that. I didn't really think it through. I should have had something else to kind of to lift us at the end it ended soberly reminding us of life and meaning and poignant poignant which is one of my favorite

words it's a lovely word point it is yes