The Unmade Podcast - 150: Guerrilla Podcasting

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Tim and Brady discuss tennis racquet theft, career choices, the city of Whyalla, Tim’s age, sport interviews, guerrilla podcasting, long-dead people, and birthday eves.Support us on Patreon and catch our ‘Request Room’ episodes - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFMJoin the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/Unmade_Podcast/USEFUL LINKSProject Hamper - https://www.unmade.fm/project-hamperWhyalla - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhyallaBanksy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BanksyLord Casey - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Casey,_Baron_CaseyCardinal Joseph-Marie Trịnh Như Khuê - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph-Marie_Trịnh_Như_Khuê

So your tennis racket got stolen. It did. Oh my goodness me. What happened? It's all the news here in Adelaide. It's all anyone can talk about. Excalibur. That's right.

Yeah. Look, this is the problem with tennis racket bags, like guitar bags. They're shaped exactly like the contents inside them. So you don't know the contents are missing until you open them. So I literally arrived at the tennis court, zipped it open, reached inside and there was nothing there except, you know, balls and crap and, you know, a couple of sweat bands. Didn't you notice the weight when you took it out of the car and carried it to the court? No, there are a couple of tennis ball like cylinders in there. So no, I didn't notice it. So it was stolen from in your car was it.

I don't know. And the bag was like re-zipped and everything. Yes, yes. It's almost like a magic trick. It's bizarre. You sure you didn't lose it? How am I going to lose it? What am I going to do?

You sure it didn't just crumble under the might of that workout I gave you when I was in Australia on court? That's fine. It didn't disintegrate in my hand. the might of that workout I gave you when I was in Australia on court. It didn't disintegrate in my hand. Which we haven't talked about, by the way. No, no, let's stay on this. Losing my racket's the second worst thing that's happened recently. That match was the worst thing. What? Um, I guess you just buy another one and move on like there's no there's nothing to be done.

Well the difference is on the year on now in playing and so actually I've gone back to the drawing board you know to all the lists of best rackets and I gotta go back and try a few and see if I go for the exact same one of course there's a new model now as a new model now because I did at the end of the day borrow one from someone else at the club you know someone said I've got a spare one here and I said oh great and I could not believe the power that came out of that racket it was amazing it became my new favourite racket for the day so. That makes me wonder if I chose unwisely with with Excalibur. Just make sure you don't get one that's too heavy like it's easy to get one that's like you know 10 20 30 grams too heavy and it really makes a difference on your on your elbow. Yeah yeah that's true and that's what I love about this one for those who actually tennis fans I had it what it was it's a head speed. Teen racket which is used by Djokovic it's pretty good racket so are you sure yours wasn't souvenir by like a fan I can't be sure no I can't. Do you mean a podcast fan or a tennis fan. Probably not a tennis fan you're definitely a better podcast of the tennis player. I enjoy that guys podcast co-host sides videos I'm going to steal his tennis racket.

Well how's your game coming along anyway? Playing all right? Well yeah I just happened to have, I still had the racket from my neighbour that I borrowed for when you were here and so I played with that and that's pretty powerful racket too and except it's a bit thick around the handle so I feel like I've been holding onto something a bit too fat and that makes you feel very clumsy. Clumsiness is a word that comes quickly to mind when I think about my tennis. As I said when we played the result didn't go your way but every time I play you I'm noting improvement like you are. That's what I am I am I am you are the hare and I am the tortoise and I'm just continuing

on. Okay. Oh, I've got some parish notices. First of all, I can't remember in what context we discussed this, but we discussed people's names not fitting what their interests are and things like that. I think we use the example of a guy called Jeff Moon who has no interest in the moon. I can't remember the full context, but anyway. Oh yeah, I remember that. We heard from someone else who said, my last name is Beers.

Growing up, a lot of people kind of poked fun at my name. Even coaches in school would call me Beersy. Finally, when I turned 21, I gave booze a try and I thought, this is disgusting. And I've tried a few times and I keep thinking, why drink when there's a perfectly good Dr. Pepper right there. My dad is also a preacher and he makes his own communion wine that everyone raves about. And I have to take a shot with the wafer over my tongue to block some of the taste. So there we go.

Oh wow. Beersie who doesn't like beer or any alcohol for that matter. Interesting. Do you like Heinz baked beans? I know your surname is Heinz not Heinz but how do you feel about Heinz products? I am drawn to them I have to say. Like I would prefer to buy them the family prefers a different brand of tomato sauce or ketchup as Americans call it but I prefer to buy Heinz just because it's because

it's my name or it's similar to my name it just it just jumps out from the shelf and it's always been that way so I love Heinz baked beans yeah yeah absolutely okay so I had I heard from loads of people about two jobs people people who have two jobs. This was something we brought up as a podcast idea when I talked about, who did I talk about? I talked about the makeup artist who was also a prison warden and another one. I heard from loads of you, one of them was Trow2339 who says, I know a guy who's an air traffic controller and an architect. Architecture is really his passion but he only went to university to get his degree in it quite

late after having been an air traffic controller for many years so now he does both. That's two pretty cool jobs. Oh yeah gosh that is an attention to detail person, no question about it. I don't like the idea of them doing like if they're studying architecture, like, you know, on the side while they're working as an air traffic controllers, every time a plane comes in and they just got their head over, you know, a big sketch piece of paper and they're sketching something and they can look up and go, oh heck, he's the 746 from, you know, 730 from Singapore quickly, runway two. Oh gosh, he keeps looking and keeps drafting. They are two very cool jobs. Did you know that architecture was my second choice at university?

My first choice was journalism. And if I didn't get into that, I'd put architecture as my second choice. I did not know that. I don't know why I didn't know that. I do remember the day we filled out those forms. But I don't remember remember I didn't know you had any interest in architecture really well I just I always thought it would be a cool job when I was a little kid I loved designing floor plans of my dream house that would be hey you would still have even though it was like my dream house in the future it still had mum and dad's bedroom in it and then where my bedroom was so I hadn't quite I hadn't quite taken myself to adulthood but I loved designing things and I always like sort of you know maths and stuff so I just thought I never had a passion for architecture I never imagined doing it. I only ever wanted to be a journalist so that was my first choice and I just didn't think beyond it but you had to put a second choice.

We had to put five I think. Yeah and I think I just thought architecture that's like that sounds like that'd be a cool job I would like to do that it sounds pretty cool. Probably the grades required to get into architecture were harder than the ones to get to journalism I don't know having as a second choice may have been silly but I go into journalism anyway so. You did your you did your year and then dropped out became a journalist. I guess I did. Become a journalist. I guess I did. You got you got a cadetship. Yeah, I got a cadetship at the newspaper.

So I got I got the job I was aiming for before I finished my degree. Hence, I never finished my journalism degree. If you want to if you want to know more about it, all correspondence can be sent to Dr. Brady Haran. Honorary. Yeah. OBE. Very much honorary. Yeah, but your drawing is hilarious. Like it's.

Yeah, but with architecture you can use a ruler and stuff. Like I think I can draw a house plan. I know I can't like I can't draw a hand or like a person's face, but I think I could draw like a floor plan or rule straight lines. But I always think of architects as being people that can, you know, they have those cool sort of black markers and that they could pretty much sketch up anything, you know, they're so, so talented. True, my free hand is terrible, but I don't know, I don't actually, not many architects have to draw

free hand stuff. No, but you know, they sort of go, they do, because I've dealt with a few architects with, you know, work buildings and they sort of sketch something out around here. And even if you're looking at it, you're going, but they're doing lines, but they're doing it free hand. You go, Oh, that works really well. That's a door and that goes through there. And well, I didn't end up becoming an architect anyway, so it doesn't matter. Does it?

You, you, um, do you remember what else was on your list? What was like third, fourth and fifth? No, no. What was on your list? was like third fourth and fifth. No no what was on your list. I got into a marketing degree I got into my first option but it was at why I left the campus of the University of South Australia and I drove to why I went now I'm not doing this. Oh my goodness yeah that's like going and doing it in the middle of nowhere. Yeah yeah it's like a regional campus. I didn't know that you got marketing at why I did yeah I did I got some marketing with UniSA and but I never

did it I deferred and then reapplied my scores after a year and I got into arts at Flinders and so I did that and then transferred that into education at Flinders and then didn't finish that I did another year of that and then dropped out and went and did you know ministry theology which yeah did a few degrees in that so yeah you were lost soul for a little while. The idea of living in Waila is incredible to me. I went there and I was like, no, this is not, no, I'm not doing this. It takes like six hours to get there. It's this like country town far from Adelaide. Sure, it's lovely. But like, yeah, I was just like, no, no, I'm not doing doing this it's like that time I nearly got into the Northern Territory police and then realized I had to move to the Northern Territory. Why did you even put while I was a first choice had you never seen while I before.

I put well I put marketing as a first choice and it just happened to be offered in why I don't know why I think well there was a girl in our class who had a brother that was at that campus and she made it sound a bit like a party town you know he was president of the student union they'll get in bands in and it sort of sounded like I go away and be in a uni town that'd be pretty cool but. Then I went there and I was like no. about things that one is indifferent about, things that you don't like, but you also don't dislike. You just are completely neutral. And we heard from Armando Alvarez WF who says, I am indifferent to avocado. I don't dislike avocado. It's fine. If I see a sandwich or salad comes with avocado, it won't make me particularly more or less

interested in getting it. If you ask me would you like to pay $2.50 to add avocado I will always say no thanks but if you want to throw an avocado on the sandwich sure I'll have it. Here's my theory with avocados you've got to think of it as a garnish so on its own it's not great like if someone says do you want a peach you go yell have a peach but an avocado you like well you've got to think of it but anything with avocado in it you like to just have avocado off fantastic like on a focaccia or in salads and different things like that it really. Is that garnish or is that like an I guess it's kind of garnish isn't garnish something that's more for show. Isn't garnish something that's more for show. Oh, is it always think of it? Well, actually, no, I think you're right. That's right. It's so, you know, it's not a garnish.

You just got to think of it as something that adds something. Yeah. To the passenger. It's not the main thing, a passenger. That's right. It's a passenger food. Another thing that came up last episode, you probably won't remember Tim, cause you never remember what was in the previous episode.

I talked about this idea of having like a big hamper or basket that all the listeners send in presents to and we have this big gift box and at the end it gets given to one of our listeners. Oh yeah that's a good idea. People were really into this so I'm gonna do it if you have a look on our website or in the show notes and that I'll have an address and details of things you can send so we're gonna make that a thing so start sending stuff in I'll probably come up with some details like obviously we don't want anything perishable. There goes the rest of the year for you. Well it's going to get sent hopefully to my post box and I was going to pick it up once a week I'll just pick up the stuff and dump it in but I want it to be I want you know tell us the story of the thing you sent and why you sent it. And we'll talk about the things on the podcast as they come in, build up the hype and anticipation. Mm.

So more details to come, but the response to that was such that we're going to go ahead and do it. We're going to press the button. Awesome. So if you've got something you want to send, you know, make it something distinctive from your town. You know, if you're from Waila, send us a handful of dust. I don't know, what would you send from Waila? A bit harsh on Waila. It's a lovely part of the South Australian desert. It's not. Waila's not nice. All right. If you listen to this podcast in Waila,

definitely get in touch. Tell us something good about why I like. I have to say put while there is halfway to Port Lincoln which apparently is really really beautiful but I've never gone there because I can't. Because going puts me off you know if it's like if it's because what I was only halfway and that's like forever to get to any well it's not that far away. Port Lincoln is okay. Port Lincoln's nice. Port Augusta. Terrible. Don't go to Port Augusta. But Port Lincoln's nice.

Beautiful people. These are dusty. I find it difficult because I grew up in Southern Victoria and there's grass, there's lawn everywhere and trees. And so in South Australia, there's not a lot of lawn. And when you get out where there's not many trees it does feel pretty arid. Yes it's stark barren. Why people live in while I like what what makes one live in while I like cause you could just move to.

I may have a farm in the in the area or is quite a isn't there is it there's a large industry there is it a copper mine what is it. Oh there is mine there was mines up that way and maybe this massive mining hang on. Alright hang on I can't I can't not quickly just look at the pricey of what while I hang on while it is a city in South Australia it was founded as hummocks Hill. As it was known until 1916 it's the fourth most popular city in the Australian state of South Australia. It is the fourth most popular city in the Australian state of South Australia after Adelaide, Mount Gambia and Gola, and along with Port Pirie and Port Augusta is one of three towns that make up the Iron Triangle. It has an urban population of 21,742, having declined at an average annual rate of 0.75 percent year over year. It is a seaport located on the East Coast of the Air Peninsula it is known as the steel city due to its integrated steelworks and shipbuilding heritage the port of while I has been exporting iron ore since 1903.

Okay so man we need to go easy here I'm literally marrying a couple from from why Allah next week. I like it right there podcast listeners and they love lovely people. So you're presiding over their wedding and they've just yeah alright so why are beautiful people. Nice tough tough nature strips beautiful people good excellent people who are destined for happy marriage. Good excellent people who are destined for happy marriage. Hang on we've got famous people here from Waila. It's quite a long list but I don't really know any of them. Oh the Wakeland brothers, AFL footballers, Darryl and Shane. Oh yeah.

And they have their cousin James I worked with at the Adelaide Advertiser. I know very well so the Wakeland football brothers are from Wail are from while I let's get out of here before we dig ourselves any deeper with the people of what do you call people from while I while ins. Well, while ins while Aaron's while amites. Why? Oh, I like well, I might. Um, yeah, I don't know. Spent more time on my while then we plan to in the, uh, the rundown.

Yeah. There you go. You just never die. Ideas for a podcast. Who's going to go first today? I have a funny idea that just is more of an on the way sort of idea which maybe I can start with to warm you up. Is on the way means one you had while driving your car to the office? Well yes actually because because it's the I've come from playing a game of tennis as you can see I'm in like tennis gear and stuff and I'm all sort of hot and sweaty.

You don't look like you're in tennis gear you look like you're in an English 90s band like you know with the shell suit and the like the feeler suit and you look you look more like you know. Well that's true Damon Elmond wore the feeler sort of jacket a lot in the 90s from the band Blur. Yeah you do look a bit Damon Albin. Well, thank you. That's I got, you know, there's some guys at the tennis club the other day, because I'm just getting to know them. We're sitting around with three guys afterwards and and they are Tim, you know, I've been going for a couple of months. How old are you? And I said, how old do you think I am? And these guys had be sort of late 60s, I think. And they looked at me and they go, you'd be 60 another one goes yeah I was gonna say 60 the third one goes yeah yeah late 50s or 60 and I was like oh great okay thanks guys and they go how have said that man I would never.

They were they they wanted my looking old I always feel like I'm look all maybe I'm frowning a lot because of my serves but. I'm honestly not offended and I was trying to convey to them that I wasn't offended and but they were even like 10 minutes later we're talking about something else and one of the guy goes no seriously sorry about that with the age mate. I was like, look, it really is. It really is. I get the opposite of my tennis club, like, cause I play with some of the senior guys cause I qualify for some of the senior leagues and stuff.

Yeah. And they don't think I, they surprised I qualify and they're like, yeah, they always think, they always think I'm younger than I am. They're always like, Oh, you know, of course, of course you won today. You're so much younger than us. And I'm like, I'm there always like I was you know of course you of course you want to know you're so much younger than us and I'm not that much younger than you guys. Well I made a small internal decision to up the exercise and up the tennis and but anyway I'm semi-retired around these parts man. That's interesting it's a game we are the the Times newspaper as I think I think I've said this

before the Times newspaper every day has a list of people's whose birthday it is today. I can I famous people and I often will read through that list to my wife and she has to guess the age of sports people interviewed it's immediately after the game and they're they're really got a lot to say. And there's you know the huffy and puffy and oh geez yeah man I got a good night buzzer thanks mate for this and all that and I was thinking. that and i was thinking you know half jokingly probably the worst podcast idea would be two people who have just played. Coming off sitting down microphones on the ready and talking about you know what i mean what the sport commentating on the sport in that sort of annoying breathy out of breath sweaty. I'm full of in jokes and I couldn't believe it and short language kind of why that we do immediately after playing sport. Are you talking like to average people like you know you and I are you talking like you know no that jokovic and Roger Federer. I'm talking people who you would actually want to listen to on a podcast so yeah so maybe you is some interest in the in the banter but yeah anyway that was the. Yeah, anyway, that was the half idea I had as I came in feeling sweaty and yeah, I think I think the problem with that is that there's such a push now in sport for the interviews

to happen as soon as possible after the games, you know, on the field, you know, that's such a part of sports culture now. I think we get a lot of that anyway. We don't have the two opponents talking to each other. That would be that's a bit of a unique twist, I guess. But but I don't know. And like you say, it's I don't have the two opponents talking to each other that would be that's a bit of a unique twist I guess but but I don't know and like you say it's I don't know I don't think it's the best time to talk to people. No it's not that's not but what if what if you were a person who owned your own content even though you were playing an elite sport so you'd come off and let's say the channel

that's you know like hosting it comes over to you with a microphone and you go no no I'm and you go over to your own microphone record your own thing and put it up for your only you know what I mean like it's like my comments are strictly my own product and my own content to be released on my own show. The problem is in most sport they sign contracts that they have to interview the rights with the rights holder but yeah I hear you. No that's right yeah I won't be I won't be doing that. Yeah, I hear you. No, that's right. Yeah. I'd write about it.

I won't be doing that. No. I'd be very upset if you signed a contract with another podcast to talk to after each unmade podcast. Instead of doing the request for him, Tim goes off and does his own. Sorry, Brady. As soon as I hit stop, Tim's gone. He's off to his other podcast to talk about the podcast he just did.

Like a rival request room. This is, I should set this up and have people send questions to me and I do my own request room after yours separately. Oh, that's great. Do you want to hear my crappy quick idea? Yes. So I've been very inspired by Banksy, the, the gorilla graffiti artist who, who he's been out and about again lately in London. I think he went a whole week in London

recently where he was, uh, graffitiing animal themed stencils onto walls and that he also did one on the, uh, the gates of the London zoo. So, you know, it was another, it was another week of Banksy. What's he up to? What's he going to do next? And I thought what would happen if we were like, guerrilla podcasters, like the Banksy of podcasters, right? Yeah. And I know I talked about residencies in the past doing a podcast residency, but what about if you did guerrilla podcasts and you went and recorded quick podcasts in places where you're not allowed to, where you're not supposed to be. You and I would sneak into a museum or something where you're not allowed to record and photos and recordings strictly prohibited and just do five minutes of quick podcasting. They struck again.

Where have they podcasted this time? Oh my God, they podcasted on the centre court at Wimbledon. All those sneakies. They podcasted in the parliament in London Wimbledon. Oh, those sneakies. Oh, they podcasted in the parliament in London. Where are they going to strike next? Gorilla podcasters. The King's bedroom in Buckingham Palace or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, like, illicit podcasts. I guess to make it work, you would have to, and to be more Banksy-like, you would have to be like anonymous and people not know who the hosts are as well. All those those those mystery podcasters I don't know who they are but how do they keep podcasting from amazing places.

You've got it you've got to somehow prove that you were there. Yeah you had to order yes Tim and I actually are podcasting from Buckingham Palace right now in case you didn't know. I actually podcasting from Buckingham Palace right now in case you didn't know. Yeah no you need proof. So that's yeah it's yeah which I guess you could just do with a photo here we are obviously clearly a photo. With your microphones and yeah yeah yeah. With your microphones that's right but that with something there that's proven which is then easy to fake actually but by you know some butler at Buckingham Palace but. but by you know some butler at Buckingham Palace but I think there's something to this idea there is something to it yeah yeah I do it needs a carrying theme or something about why what you're talking about when you're there that makes it more. Interesting yeah but I think there's something to it it would also be a lot of fun and risky risky. I love the idea of being anonymous to though that would be cool.

Yeah yeah we're pretty much anonymous some people have actually heard of you but we're pretty much anonymous. There's actually there's actually a lot of podcasters that are anonymous. You know there's some I think there's something to that idea I'm going to think about that some more can I just wait one comment about Banksy though. Yes. Like it like I'm not saying banks is jump the shark but I feel like Banksy fans have jumped the shark there is an exhibition in Adelaide a couple of years ago with Banksy stuff and now it's gone to Melbourne. stuff and now it's gone to Melbourne and it seems to me an exhibition is the antithesis of what banks is supposed to be it's just so. It's truly the story that things that are on the edge make their way into the mainstream and going to a pain to go to an exhibition of Banksy stuff in an art gallery seems to be not not very Banksy. I've told the story of meeting Banksy have a night on the podcast or have I. You have yeah yeah go find it somewhere it's somewhere in an old episode go and listen to every previous hundred and forty nine episodes and you'll stumble over somewhere no doubt.

So this is episode one fifty that's worthy of note there we go is it one fifty it is century and a half. Century and a half yeah I mean we've done a few more because of the other bits and pieces the specials and stuff but yeah congratulations happy one hundred and fiftieth episode man. Same to you shall we celebrate by giving away a few things to patreon supporters yes let's do that. I think we should give an unmade podcast key ring one of our famous Australian not leather key rings handcrafted in England to Kyle from Japan. Kyle from Japan. I was going to say the same thing. Kyle from Japan. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

So you, me and the random algorithm have all agreed that Kyle from Japan should receive a key ring. A worthy winner. Worthy indeed. And we'll also send some spoon of the week collector cards to Jason from Wisconsin Graham from San Diego and Bram from the Netherlands. Nice Bram that's a second Bram I've heard in my life yeah I've heard of another Bram who did some work for us when we were renovating our home a good man Bram. And like Bram Stoker, like Roke Dracula. Oh yeah, I've heard of Bram Stoker too, the Dracula guy. Yeah, I feel like the stand-in drummer for you too might be called Bram as well. So suddenly they're everywhere. All right, well there you go.

And people who've also won presents in the past, Patreon supporters, I am going to do a big postal day soon. I'm a little bit behind. So you may have heard your name over the last month or two and thought, oh, they said my name, but I never got the gift. You haven't been forgotten. I'm going to do a big postal day soon. It's been a bit crazy in my life at the moment.

So I haven't had as much time as I normally would. You'd be doing a lot of architect jobs, man. Yeah. How's this to be designed? So should we do a proper podcast idea? You got, you got like a, what's your other one? I do have an idea and I don't have a name for it but I think it could be called who am I 14 I read the other day that scientists generally predict that there has been or estimate that there has been. 117 billion people like ever like that have ever existed homo sapiens. What kind of not man we respect all people's sexuality here.

There are there are. That's an oldie but a goodie. If you're gonna leave the fruit hanging that low I'm gonna pick her. I joke 150 years old. That joke joke was made the day the first human existed. There are 117 billion people that have ever lived right which means that they're about for every person who is alive today there are 14 other people that are dead. I haven't fact checked hims mathematics there I'm absolutely positive he's made some mistake somewhere but. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with your assumption because it's famously people always say there are more people alive today than have died that's like a famous thing people say which is wrong.

Well that's just not true yeah totally yeah. Yes but I don't know what the correct numbers are I'm gonna go with Tim's numbers that there are 14 deads for every alive at the moment. So who are your 14 who are your 14 that's that's a pretty interesting kind of like there are 14 people that are alive for me and I was thinking about comparing if I was to stand. What do you mean who are you 14 what do you mean who are you 14 what do you even mean what are you talking about. Well if there are 14 people that are mathematically there are 14 people dead for every person that's alive that means that there's 14 people dead for your one of 15 and I'm one of 15 who have ever existed. And if you were to get a hundred and seventeen and you were to randomize them. them and slot and pull out 15 random people throughout all of history that would be an interesting collection to compare who they were. So thinking about me, my living standards, my life, my wealth, my height, my age, you know what I mean?

And just compare that if there was some way of being able to collate, I can say you can't do this with individual people but with nationalities and with confidence and with cultures and with time to pull out fifteen. Well fourteen other random people and yep and use that as a way of exploring. culture and history and time and the circumstances and context of their life and comparing it to each other. Nice I would make a good show so you have like hi I'm Tim Heine you know I live in Adelaide this is my life and then you have 14 other people all through history. Here's a person who it would be good if they were somehow linked I mean you could always get away with it you could almost make them all Tim's Timothy's cause you've got a name that's old enough that you could probably go back a long time but it would be good if they were somehow linked or they were all preachers or they're all 50 year old men although that's quite a long time to live for and the further you go back I get what you're saying you get but essentially a specimen but that's the point it's like they're all like me now that yours are like you now and then other people think about it who it is. For for them because apart from using it just as a way of randomly exploring you know the breadth and the depth of history and like anthropology people. You could almost you could also do it with different people so you get a guest on and say you know what I mean and you pull them up and say well who are you who are you're 15 and you see who you are in the midst of it.

I like it I like it it's very like it's a very sort of BBC idea I can imagine them making a TV show or I don't think it's one of those ideas where you have a different you should have a different guest each time and they have 14 people I like it as a 14 part series like a walker like a limited series. With an expert. Yeah yeah with a with a guide yeah with a guide who's and they're the and they're like the comparison point they're the person they're the touchstone you know this person 600 years ago didn't have. person the touchstone you know this person six hundred years ago didn't have penicillin that I have thought they didn't have electricity or I mean you pretty quickly get to know anything but. Yeah yeah. You also can look how like how it's talking today we're talking houses let's look at my you know the fourteen people what what their houses where that's another way to go to cross sector through that way. Okay yeah yeah yeah so yeah you introduce the 14 at the start and then you have a different theme each week yeah.

Yeah the biggest problem with that idea is like a I'm just talking now quite matter as a concept is. It's a lot of people to hold in your head as a listener or a viewer when you sell X this week we're doing housing and you know Billy Mcbillison from Scotland in seventeen thirty eight he had this kind of house on the archaic Billy which one's him I that's right and then I feel it's a lot of people to hold in your head that would make it a bit tricky but not insurmountable. Bit more than a cricket team not as much as an Australian rules football team is there a sport that has 15 people exactly is. You keep muddling it because you talk about my 14 and you keep using the number 14 and then you keep using 15 because you're including yourself as well so you need to land on a number here I was my fourteen was was the name that I thought up who am I fourteen and it's another way of comparing you know to be reminded of how blessed and lucky you are you know what I mean of realizing actually in terms of wealth like in terms of in terms of dental care. Going back through we've got a pretty good you know compared to those that have even gone coming a century before. that have even gone coming a century before on the other hand we have more products that rot your teeth now and in terms of healthcare and you know all those sorts of different ways it's another way of exploring the difference of. Modern life and ancient life through the different ages you know the bronze age in the ice you know and all that you go back through. The middle ages and beyond so that's that's another way to do it you can be more specific you can actually pick out fifteen today and then fourteen other periods and explore them back through time as a way of doing that. Decent idea this is the trouble when I have a decent idea is that you don't kind of, I'm a bit bored by it.

I thought I sort of think like it'd get a bit samey cause so many of those, you know, yes, yes, we have good medicine. Yes, we have electricity. Yes, they lived not as long back then. Uh, it'd have to be, you know, you'd have to, it'd have to be well done. I'd have to, you know, you'd have to, you'd have to bring those 14 people to life. So to speak, and definitely by making them real people, not just make them specific people, but then it gets really hard because after a few hundred years, you sort of get

very quickly get into a period where it's really hard to get records of people. Uh, so it's not without challenges, but I think it has a lot of potential. And I like the, I like the framing. Do you know what would really make it a big reveal episode where it's like, and here they are, we brought them all back to life using DNA found in Amber. Do you want to hear my second idea? What have you got? Have you got something even more long and boring? Yes, I do.

So I had this initially, the idea was called before my time. And it was a podcast where you only ever spoke about things and stuff that happened before you were born but then I thought. That's not that great an idea because basically it's just a history podcast and most interesting things in history happened before I was born so the fact that happened before I was born doesn't mean anything like and I kind of sort of stalled on the idea and thought now there's nothing there. anything like, and I kind of sort of stalled on the idea and thought, nah, there's nothing there. But then I had the idea this morning, hang on, what if before my time was a podcast where people spoke about things that happened the day before they were born? Oh, the day before? Literally a day before your time, the eve, your birthday eve. So I've looked up the day before I was born to find out what happened. And I've looked up the day before I was born to find out what happened and I've looked up the day before you were born to find out what happened. See I was alive the day before you were born. You were alive yes you were you were on earth before me.

Well you can tell me yours first. Okay the 17th of June 1976 the day before I was born I'll tell you who was born the day before I was born a guy called Sven nice Who's a Belgian mountain biker and cyclocrosser? Mm-hmm. He's a really big deal in the world of cyclocrossing Whatever that is. I've never heard of him, but he's a big deal as is Peter Svidler the Russian chess a grandmaster Also born the day before me and also born the day before me is a guy called Scott Adkins from England. And he's an action film star, and he's in loads and loads of films that have lots of fighting in them, but I'd never heard of him. And someone who died the day before I was born was a guy called Lord Casey, who was the Governor General of Australia

from 1965 to 1969, a great statesman that's that's a little that's an interesting angle as well because it's like it's the passing on the baton you know to be like he is he gives it and hands it to you and you take it from here son. Yeah who died the day before the day you're born in sport the national basketball association the NBA and the American basketball association agreed to a merger which resulted in four a b a teams the Denver nuggets the Indiana Pacers the New York Nets and the San Antonio Spurs, being admitted into the NBA so those four famous basketball teams that are still NBA teams now alright that's interesting, because I think they became the New Jersey Nets, didn't they? And then now they're the Brooklyn Nets. There's not much else really like the day before I was born. Indonesia annexed Portuguese East Timor, which, you know, is kind of a thing. There was like a court decision in America that wasn't very interesting. Not really much.

Do you feel like the world was perhaps resting, knowing that it was going to be? It's a bit like have a quiet one today because tomorrow. Tomorrow is huge. Wow. Yep. Tomorrow is the day. It's like Christmas Eve. You know what I mean?

Let's have a quiet one tonight because tomorrow someone's going to be born who's going to be very important. Save your energy. The big man's arriving tomorrow. I think Casey, you know, Lord Casey was like, well, I'm just going to rest here for a while. And then he died. The 27th of April 1976, day before Tim made his appearance, was a 37 of 88 people on an American Airlines flight,

died when their Boeing 727 overran the runway, in the Virgin Islands, as someone who takes an interest in airline crashes as a big one. And there were also 11 Malaysian Armed Forces military personnel died in a helicopter crash. They were shot down by terrorists. So I guess that's not really a crash if you get shot down. Two big aviation incidents. A US patent was granted for what became Gore-Tex, the waterproof fabric. Oh, right. The day before Timu's. And there was another patent granted that day for something called Hex,

which is a sort of a climbing equipment, which is used to get holds between cracks in rocks without using drills and bolts. So two big patents as we have to have a religion one because it's Tim. Pope Paul VI elevated 19 bishops to the status of a Roman Catholic cardinals including two who were not identified at the time. Because they were from Vietnam and Czechoslovakia and it was thought it would put them in risk if it was known they'd become cardinals this declaration increase the college of cardinals from 117 to 136 so bunch of new. What do you think he was getting all that done before I came along. I know I tell you what I went down such a rabbit hole I even went and read about that Vietnamese guy that became a cardinal I was like oh why did it have to be a secret. And turns out he then went on to be in the two conclaves for Pope John Paul and Pope John Paul the second which happened very close to each other. which happened very close to each other because Pope John Paul died very quickly. So there were two famous conclaves and he was in both of them and then he died the next month.

So he got to be in those famous conclaves and then he passed on. Also the unsuccessful Broadway musical, So Long 174th Street, opened at the Harkness Theatre and it would close two weeks later after only 16 performances. There you go. And berths, you've got Sally Hawkins, an English film and stage actress, who's been in a couple of Woody Allen movies, including Blue Jasmine, and is known to many people as the mum in Paddington, the Paddington movies. Right. Javier Vasquez, the Cuban-born mixed martial artist, and dying on that day was name Hashmi Pakistani character actor. On film television and stage day before you were born before your time but you are you don't expect to know that Tim that was before your time.

I was it was just just yes wow there's not I mean there's not a lot of significance in this one either is there. No, no, like you could like if you were going to have guests on a podcast where you were doing this each week you'd probably actually do their birth date wouldn't you? You wouldn't do the day before their birth date. The day before, unless they, yeah, it's only really interesting if they just missed something. It's just, I just wanted the gimmick of before my time, just. Did anything else happen before your time. What happened two days before I was born. We can work out what. Next week.

Three days. Interesting. Eventually we'll hit something big. You wouldn't go far back from mine and we'd hit your birthday. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yep.

I came along. I'm a bit like John the Baptist just coming, preparing the way for you really. Aren't I man? Yeah. I, that's how I like to think of you. Tim the Baptist. I'm a voice crying in the wilderness. Yeah.

Coming soon. People get in touch with us and tell us what happened the day before you were born. Whoever has the biggest, most amazing thing that happened the day before they were born wins some kudos. That's a good idea yeah I would be interested if something happened significantly I remember when I was a kid thinking I sort of crossed over with Elvis Presley just for like one year he died in 1977. But as I talked about in my last episode I then became indifferent to him after that but I do remember having that thought as a kid. Do you think about that don't you because when ever events happen when you're a kid you compare it to was I alive was I not alive at that moment it is a big line in your mind so. That's why the day before you were born I think it's quite fun. Anyway that was my only something interesting it happened yes nice.

Yeah I'm sorry you and I were just born at crap times I mean the 70s were just generally crap anyway when they. You're in the 70s there's something about the 70s that feels real in in in films in a way that the 60s doesn't and the 80s doesn't I think I think it's I always think of it like it's like the it's the most recent. Purely analog kind of era take your reckon I know I'm not saying there wasn't a like you know there wasn't I'm sure there was digital technology but it doesn't appear in anything. I just do think the seventies is a dud decade like like all during like the eighties and the nineties and the noughties even you talk about like the seventies being a dud and I always thought was time goes on. The era of dudness would move and you wouldn't think it and like seventies had become you'd start looking at them differently but I don't think that's ever happened I still think the eighties are kind of cool and the sixties are obviously cool and I still think the seventies are just not know that is didn't quite. The seventies are just not know that is didn't quite they didn't quite land it I know I know cool stuff happened in Star Wars was made in the seventies and but. But Star Wars is an eighties movie though yeah like it's the eighties really started with Star Wars but I think that the seventies feels real like I was watching a Clint Eastwood movie the other day like dirty Harry or something a year ago not not the other day and everything feels. Like hard and real like that there's nothing electronic anywhere like the cars of metal everything's metal and the hard surfaces everywhere even his face is like a hard surface and jackets and offices everything's kind of you know what I mean feels tangibly itself where is you get to the eighties and everything's kind of.

I don't know digitised or coloured or got flashy lights or or cushy or cushiony and there's something I don't know there's something about the seventies that feels that feels authentic where is the eighties feels like it's got a gloss over of some kind. But of course that's a ridiculous idea. Yeah. Well, I reckon that's it for now. We are going to retire to the request room though, and answer a few questions from Patreon supporters, go to go patreon.com slash unmade FM, you know, join, do it. And, uh, supporters of Tim can come across to my request room. Tim does another episode after the request room where people can make requests about things they had in the request room for my only fans.

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