The Unmade Podcast - 25: Showbags

Episode Date: April 20, 2019

Tim and Brady discuss the Sofa Shop (of course), things we wish we'd kept, and interesting places we've gone to the toilet. Plus an idea from a Patron! And the previously untold story of I.J.M. Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to hover.com/unmade - promo code UNMADE at checkout - https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/bfhusq USEFUL LINKS The Big Rocking Horse - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Rocking_Horse The Sofa Shop - http://sofashop.net.au Dermott 'Dermie' Brereton in action - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwQsMOq7Isg Knight Rider - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNyXYPhnUIs The Royal Adelaide Show - https://theshow.com.au Showbags - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showbag Ingrid Bergman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Bergman Brady's Everest trip including some discussion of yak poo about 4:45 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTL4dj3Gx1o The Tree Hotel - https://treehotel.se/en/ Cinderella Toilet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBOa7PVyV4 Kenny - The Film - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0822389/ Sky Juice - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water

So I had my book open on ideas, but they're retreat ideas for work, for the staff. That's going to be slightly less interesting as a podcast. Are you going to take your staff to the big rocking horse if you got that on the list? We've done that already. You've done it? No, no, we've done it as a podcast conversation piece. Oh, right. No, I'm not trying to.

I'm just saying you genuinely should take your staff to the big rocking horse. It's a really nice day out. Yeah, that's a good idea. It's moving from this list across to the other page now, adding it to the staff retreat list ideas. I love the Big Rocking Horse. Where else is good for a staff retreat around South Australia? Are you confining it to South Australia? I assume you are.

Yes, we are. It's just an overnight. Otherwise, I'd say the Maldives are great. I think the big rocking horse is your seinfeld like i think you find a way to bring it in on every occasion no matter what we're speaking about it slips in somewhere i tell you what is my seinfeld and i do want to start the episode by talking about it, and that is the sofa shop. Oh, yes.

The last time we heard from you, you had pulled over at the side of the road and phoned in our emergency podcast with news of the sofa shop's closure. What have you learned since? Because you went along, didn't you? I did. I did. I went down there and scoped it out, walked around outside for a bit and sort of made sure the coast was clear, went inside and had a bit and sort of made sure the coast was clear.

Went inside and had a bit of a look around. It was fascinating. I mean, it wasn't that fascinating. It's a sofa shop. Why did you look around outside first? You know you're not supposed to do a thing until you've seen the sofa shop. Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop. Well, I'd seen it.

I was there seeing it. And then I Well, I'd seen it. I'd seen it. I was there seeing it. Okay. And then I was, I don't know. It was, it just felt like the thing to do to make sure there weren't too many people around. Like I wanted to be in the zone. Right. And.

Were you nervous? It wasn't nerves. It was more a case of a sense of occasion. Butterflies, probably. Sense of occasion. Walking into the sofa shop. It was. I felt it.

And I went in there and- Had you ever been in before? No. No, I haven't, actually. So, when it says- When they say don't do a thing before you go see the sofa shop, I actually had been doing absolutely everything and not seeing- You'd done 42 years of stuff and not seen the sofa shop.

That's right. Just think how different your life would have been. If I'd gone straight away. Straight from the hospital, my parents said, don't do a thing. We're going to the sofa shop. Get that kid to the sofa shop. It's like a baptism. That's right.

He's christened. I walked in. I walked sort of into the middle of the store. But immediately I was looking around to see the owner because the owner's retiring. So I was looking around to see sort of a near retiree kind of person. Really old person. Well, yeah. In a shop like that, you often have the staff that'll be wearing some kind of similar colour, like a uniform.

And then you're looking around for someone who is also dressed as if they're at work, but isn't buying a sofa and is a bit older because you presume that they're the manager. That's their sort of profile. So I was sort of profiling everyone as I was looking around. But there were a couple of guys that could potentially be the owners. So I just sort of walked up to one of them. And then I realized, no, he wouldn't be the owner. So I said, oh, hello there. And I introduced myself and just sort of pretended to be a customer and said i i understand you're

retiring is that right and you know the the shops were closing down and i got a pretty comprehensive spiel from the guy about why and what's going on yeah i didn't sort of want to take notes in front of him or anything so i just sort of kept mental notes. What's the executive summary? What did you learn that you didn't know before from the big sign on the front of the building? Well, this is the only location. I think he said this is the only one left, but it's basically a case of he's ready to retire and the lease is up. And so it's just time, you know, that's it. But I mean, I'm not buying that story. but i mean i'm not buying that story i don't

think anyone's buying that story there's got to be something else going on no certainly no one's buying a sofa it's really quite no i actually did even though i was in there it's purely for the podcast purposes i did actually find myself going oh this is quite nice yeah looking at sofas and things and and you know, starting to wander around. Did you choose a fabric and match your curtains too? Choose your fabric, match your curtains too. Did the sofa shop cost what you thought it would cost? Sofa shop ain't gonna cost what you think it will.

It was, I felt a bit bad because I realised, I forgot about the blinds and and we actually bought new blinds yeah like only recently and we'd not gone to the sofa shop to match it with a sofa or anything like that so i was feeling a little bit guilty when i walked around and i kind of saw the blind samples and went oh yeah we could have come here that's that's a shame never mind so did you reveal anything about yourself like did you say like you know i'm kind of a big deal you've probably heard of me i'm tim from the unmade podcast and he was like oh yeah you guys love the sofa shop i didn't feel like

they weren't wearing unmade podcast t-shirts and there was no sign up sort of with that sign set of as heard on unmade podcast or anything like that. Didn't ask you about honey prawns or anything? No, no, no. Didn't bring up the rocking horse or Luke Perry or anything like that. I gave him my details and he said that a family member of the owner is the one who takes care of that kind of stuff. Hang on. So you must have said something.

Under what guise did you hand him your details? Not just as a guy who wants to buy a sofa. No. Yes. And I only deal with family members of the owner. So please. There's like four sales guys standing there. And I'm like, I'm only going to deal with the top.

Yeah. No, I think I did say something along the lines of of um you know like i'm i'm i'm on got a podcast and you know we love the store we love the jingle and we hear you closing down we'd love to have a chat and left my details you know something like that and that's what he said oh he sort of heard it was like an interview kind of thing and i said it's like a and so the guy sort of sought clarification on a podcast and i said well it's kind of like a radio show but it's on the internet you know that kind of if there's anyone who's not going to know what a podcast is it's people working at the sofa shop he knows what a sofa is man sofa is his expertise he does yeah to be fair our podcast largely centers

around his sofas so let's not get too critical we went to him like he didn't come to us like so anyway i i haven't i haven't heard anything but it was lovely being in there you know the Don't get too critical. We went to him. Like, he didn't come to us. So, anyway, I haven't heard anything. But it was lovely being in there. You know the funny thing about a sofa shop is, you know how it's like every little, it's like lots of little lounge rooms lined up around the room. You know what I mean? Like, it's like a big chessboard, but each square is like a little lounge room. So, you go into a lounge room, it's like set up as if it's like, oh, would I like this to be my lounge room with one of those sort of pretend TVs?

Those cardboard TVs are kind of there. And then you go to the next one. It's like a whole other lounge room. I'm thinking people could all come in. What if all our lounge rooms were like this and we all live together like the whole city in a massive warehouse? But all our lounge rooms were kind of like lined up and were different. And we're all doing different things in different lounge rooms. Like what if we lived in the sofa shop?

You'd have a lot of sound issues. Well, this is true. That's true. What do you watch on a cardboard TV? Presumably only films starring Brian Brown. That suits me because I watch cocktail every year faithfully if they did a remake they could perhaps use a cardboard cut out of brian brown that had more character and personality so anyway we haven't heard back from the sofa shop so we

don't know if we're going to land that interview yet but it doesn't seem to be top of their priority they've not gone on to it yeah yeah so it's um we just need to wait i mean well no that's not what a journalist does tim a journalist chases chases the story down but i'm not a journalist you're a journalist well i'm gonna chase the story down i'm gonna get i'm gonna land i'm gonna land him he's my white whale what if there was a movement like what if other people contacted or started getting in touch and asking them to... Oh, yeah. Like an online petition. Oh, that's true.

Yeah. Just to give us a call. Just call us. Don't do a thing. That's what it could be called. Don't do a thing until you call Tim and Brady at the Unmade Podcast. We'll get onto that. Speaking of Unmade Podcasts, this episode is remaining largely unmade until we put some ideas out there.

Who's going first today? You got an idea you want to share? Look, I've got an idea, but it's one of those things that feels a little bit obvious. I'll go with it, but it may not be a grand idea. It may be more of a mini idea. But you tell me what you think. It's been on the list for a long time, and I haven't used it either as a staff retreat or as a podcast idea. Yeah.

But I'm going to go with it. It's basically, it's called I'd kill to still have. Right. Now, kill is a strong word, but it's the phrase we use. I'd kill to still have that. Yeah. to still have that yeah so basically it's a podcast episode where you talk about the we have different guests on and we talk about the one thing they would love to have that they no longer have whether it's a treasured possession or a toy or a piece of memorabilia or something like a

watch or something that they've had and they tell the story about how they came to have it and why it means so much to them and then why they don't have it anymore. And, yeah, I'd kill or I'd love to still have. What's yours? Yeah, well, the first, the one that I come back to again and again, and I'm sure that there are many more that are much more important to me. And I have to preface this by saying I reckon pets and people are kind of off limits. You know what I mean? Yes.

You can't bring like family members back to life. Yes. We'll take that as a given. No, that's right. That's right. Okay. In addition to this, you can't, the rules dictate, you can't have, you can't wish for something that you have never had.

Like, like. Yes. It's got to be still have as in something that you have had before yeah mine is an autograph book that i got in a night rider show bag the trailgan show in the mid 80s i'd kill to still have the night rider show bag in which dermot brereton signed his autograph. Tim, the Australian rules footballer, Dermot Brereton's autograph in a Knight Rider autograph book.

Even if there wasn't that rule about bringing family members back to life, surely that would still win. So Dermot Brereton was was it was my favorite player which he and he wasn't even on my favorite team because my team was so bad i had my favorite player was this awesome player from another team yeah played for hawthorne legendary forward before you explain who derma brevin is tim can i just tell anyone listening on your podcast player there's a little button that lets you skip forward 30 seconds i would suggest pressing that about seven to eight times you may continue to maybe maybe maybe 12 times i bet you wish you had one of those as a recording feature right now as well on my life on your face just on your forehead bang bang bang yeah that would that would be really handy on a yeah look i have nothing my i mean dermot you

know who dermot brooke he was a player i loved him as a kid. And there he is. And he's curly blonde hair. Why would you want that autograph book back of all things? Well, it just feels like a quintessential. It was a treasured possession at the time. Like a treasured possession. As in like sitting on my desk carefully. I can't believe it's there. You know, like every time I go into a room, there it is.

Touch it. I can't believe it. Was it signed to you? Was it like to Tim or was it just his name no it was just his name and uh except i said can you put your number on there so he wrote 23 in there yeah but um i remember going up to he came the reason he came to taralgon he came for a footy clinic which is when you know players turn up to promote the game yeah amongst kids and stuff he turned up in a Ferrari, which was pretty frigging amazing because a Ferrari had never been in Terrelgan ever. So we were just, I mean, you just can't,

your head explodes when you're a kid and you see a Ferrari for the first time. And then your favourite footballer steps out of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's just like unbelievable. And yeah, he was there at a footy clinic and I was shaking and I went up to him and like I said, you know, what do you say? Do you say, G'day, Dermy?

G'day, Dermot? Mr. Brereton? So I just went up and said his full name. Excuse me, Dermot Brereton. Can I please have your autograph? And he goes, sure. And, you know, so. Tim, I don't know anyone who hoards more stuff from their childhood than you.

How have you not still got this? I don't know where it is. I actually don't have a lot of stuff from my childhood than you, how have you not still got this? I don't know where it is. I actually don't have a lot of stuff from my childhood anymore. It's all gone. But I know what you mean. I am sentimental about these things. I don't know where it is. I don't know.

I imagine it was somewhere in mum and dad's stuff. And when I moved out in my late teens or early 20s and so forth, it's just, you know, there was a whole bunch of stuff in the shed. It's a bit like with my Star Wars figures and other stuff it's just kind of gone and a whole bunch of cassettes i don't know where there's a whole bunch of cassettes gone mum and dad must have just chucked them in a garage sale or thrown them in the bin or something what would you do if you found out your mum still had it and like she put it on ebay like now like like you went on ebay and it was there and it was being sold by you know m, Mrs. Hine of Adelaide.

I'd be so shocked at my mum's ability to use eBay. That's incredible. Like it's only been a year since I gave mum one of my old iPhones and helped her transition from a Nokia, which died. I just thought, I actually thought it would be an insurmountable hurdle for her to learn how to do it. And it certainly did take my youngest daughter hours upon hours sitting next to her explaining how to, you know, make a phone call and, you know, text message and all that. And you should have seen how wide my mum's eyes were just when she, you know, realised how, you know, clear the text message was and it was a message. You could do it with photos and you could, what you could and yeah and now now i've got her on my plan and everything so she's on the

internet and she it's just slowly but surely opening up this incredibly vast world for her that's even beyond her comprehension but if i suddenly found out she discovered ebay and started buying and selling my childhood toys for a profit. I would be strangely proud, I think, in a way. Do they have show bags over? Is show bags a thing at fairs and fates? No. So, everyone, Tim's about to explain what show bags are. Remember that 30-second button I told you about before on your podcast player?

Just give that a couple of quick taps. Just a couple. I think maybe four taps should do it. What's a show bag, Tim? By the way, I love show bags. So I'm totally up for hearing how you describe what a show bag is. But I reckon you'd be, look, a show bag, you go to the show and you get a bike bag.

You have to explain what the show is, Tim. Well, the show is like, I'm sure they have fairs and fates and things like that. So it's based on what was the old agricultural shows when, you know, the country would come to town and show you, and they'd have their annual competition to judge who has the best cow and who has the best sheep and who grew the best pumpkin. But it's just evolved away. That component still happens, but now it's also fair rides and candy floss and but it just takes over the city doesn't it every every city has one capital city has a big one and for like a week it just becomes this massive massive event yeah it's the big thing

happening the royal adelaide show it's called so it's still got that historical british sort of connection i guess but and show bags and show bags are you basically you buy you buy a bag full of lollies and trinkets and things like that inside it you know you pay ten dollars and you walk away with lollies but of course now they're branded and they're not just branded after you know freddo frogs or sandboys or milo or whatever but you i love that you chose three brands that people outside Australia wouldn't know. I love it. Like, you just, like, cherry picked. Like, you could have said Cadbury or you could have, like, done Mars Bars or something. Nike or...

But you chose three, like, obscure Australian brands that no one would understand. You're a genius. The further we go on, this is going to be... Okay, let me stop and explain. Fredo for Frogs. I mean, okay, let me stop and explain. Fred O'Flor, Frogs. I mean, they have their history, of course. They used to be called sample bags and they used to be quite boring. And you would have a bag and you would walk around the show and the farmer would give you a sample of one of their apples and, you know, and all these boring stuff.

But then it just got more and more commercial. all these boring stuff but then it just got more and more commercial and now before the royal adelaide show comes to town you would buy the newspaper and there would be like a catalog of all the show bags you could buy that year and there'd be like a couple of hundred of them oh i want the mars bar show bag because the mars bar show bag has three mars bars a can of coke a packet of crisps and and a you know a yo-yo or oh i want to get to get. And a Mars bar hat. Yeah. And a t-shirt. But there would also be ones that had, like, pretty cheap crappy toys. So you would get the Knight Rider show bag that you mentioned. It would have a Knight Rider autograph book, a Knight Rider pencil case,

maybe a plastic Knight Rider car toy. No, no, you're wrong there. It had a. Yep. I'm sorry to interrupt at this point. Yep. But there was a Knight Rider ruler. Yep.

A Knight Rider rubber or eraser. And I can't remember what else. A little notebook. Well, and the notebook is what I turned into my autograph book. Okay. That's all it was. And depending on how wealthy your family was and how spoiled you were would dictate how many show bags you were allowed to get. So your mum and dad would say, all right, this year I'm going to buy how many show bags you were allowed to get so your mum and dad would say all right this year i'm gonna buy you four show bags and but you'd be really jealous because simon's dad always bought him eight show bags right and you only got four show bags but then

once you got to the show all you wanted to do was buy the show bags but smart parents wouldn't buy the show bags until the end because otherwise you had to carry them around all day on all the rides and watching all the different you know demonstrations and stuff but impatient kids wanted their show bags straight away so it was always interesting looking at other kids who were walking around the showgrounds holding all their show bags and me who just desperately wanted my show bags all i wanted uh having to wait through you know hours of watching sheep and wood cutting and stuff like that until I could finally get my show bags. I should add, by the way, I didn't grow up, obviously, in Adelaide. So this is a country show.

So this is a much, much, much smaller place with a few rides. But it still took over our little town. So, Tim, even at a country show, you had the full range of show bags? Yeah, I had. You had, like, the rambo show bag and the commando show bag that like and then not you saw a few movies and tv shows that i don't remember it being like it's not like it is now it's ridiculous like it's over the top and you know fashion magazine show bags and all that kind of stuff are your kids into show bags oh yeah yeah

just checking yeah yeah do you do you look at that with like disdain or do you love that do you look at that and feel a kind of a nostalgia for your own fascination or now do you just think they're a pain in the butt like our parents thought they were no their grandma like promises to buy them you know one really nice one each year and and so it is it's the the last thing you do is you leave and they get to choose one it's become a bit of a novelty you know but it takes so they still have them in the Hamilton Hall? Is it still the Hamilton Hall where the show bags are? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know which one's the Hamilton Hall,

but it's in the massive hall. Yeah, yeah. That place is crazy. Just carnage. The cool thing about being at the little Tarelgan show and these little country shows is that after a few days, the novelty kind of of the show, like the crowds go down a little bit or it's a school day

or something like that but you'd be wandering around just with your bmx and walking and you know and then you'd see guys that would be you know the guy who's on the balloon popping thing where you throw a dart at a balloon and you might win a prize and he's just sick of working there so you'd actually could get a job and so every now and then i'd get a job and you'd be like basically you can keep whatever you earn so you'd sort of oh i get a job and you'd be like basically you can keep whatever you earn so you'd sort of oh i take it over and i'd say to people come and have a show you know come and have a go on this and so forth and you'd earn a few dollars and but then you just like quit like you'd go i've got two dollars in my hand right sorry mate i'm off now to go spend the two dollars

yeah so so the guy who's doing like the maintenance on the roller coaster says, hey, you kid, do you want to come and do the roller coaster maintenance for the next four days? Yeah, okay. That's right. That's right. Yeah. It's like, that's right.

Here, come and judge the Mally Bull competition. And, of course, you had drawings in there as well. You put your drawings in and your paintings from school and you might win a prize and all that kind of stuff. Oh, no, that didn't happen at the Royal Adelaide show. That's very provincial. Oh, yeah, yeah. And, you know, you draw stuff and it just definitely goes in,

like everyone in your art class gets to get their stuff in there and you might win a prize. Did you ever win anything? I do remember once getting a, you know how there's like, you can come first or second or third or there's this kind of you know encouragement certificate one you know what i mean like well no i don't know about those but i'm sure you do i've got a whole drawer of those they're all the way through high school and anyway so it's it's uh two peaks in my life was becoming sports captain

at our school and getting this encouragement certificate thing. I can't remember what it's called, but it's sort of- Was it for a picture you drew? Fourth, basically. Yeah, yeah. I can't remember what picture. I know what you mean. And I tell you what, I don't want that back.

I wouldn't kill to still have that, but- You want Dermot's autograph? Yeah, I would. Yeah, yeah. And it's a worthless thing, but it's just such a token of being, you know, that age and stuff. What about you, man? All those things from my childhood that I wish I still had that are replaceable, I tend to have gone through a phase of replacing. Yeah.

Like my collection of Return of the Jedi collector cards that I lost but meant so much to me. I just like, you know, a while ago just went out and bought a whole, you know, set of vintage Return of the Jedi cards and then put them in a sealed crate and I have them in storage. Yeah. And, you know, and you remember, well, we went through a phase of rebuying vintage Star Wars figures at secondhand shops and things like that. So, you sort of, a lot of the stuff that's replaceable, I've replaced. Stuff that's irreplaceable, yeah, I have memories of stuff like that and autographs and personal trinkets that if I found them again or had them again would bring me a lot of warmth.

Is there anything that stands out? And maybe it doesn't go back to childhood. Maybe it's like two years ago I had this particular thing and, oh, jeez, I'd love to still have it. Do you know what? If I could have anything back. The thing that's popping into my head now is, I don't know if I've ever told this story, but in year three at school, I had a teacher called Mrs. Delbridge.

And one of the things we had to do was keep like a daily journal in an exercise book. And you would write, you know, last night I went to the park and played cricket. Or you could write whatever you wanted each day. And Mrs. Delbridge said, at the end of the year, whoever I judge to have done the best journal will be given a prize. And she pulled this thing out. And it was a small diary. And it was a five-year diary, like a five-year planner,

where, you know, January 1 had five different years on it, and then January 2 had five different years on it. So, you would go through the diary for 1987 across the top row, and then the second row you would do 1988. You know, how it worked is irrelevant. It also had a little lock on it. Yeah. And I just, like, i coveted this diary i wanted it so much that i set my stall out to win it and i wasn't the kind of kid that would normally win that kind of thing i wasn't particularly you know square or studious in year three at school and there was this other girl who

was really good who was really smart and clever and she really wanted to win it as well and we ended up going head to head but the thing i did with my diary that was different to all the other kids was instead and i didn't do this to try and you know be different or stand out it's just what i wanted to do with my diary was instead of doing like a daily entry about boring stuff like i love my mummy and daddy and stuff i decided to write like a novel this like you know to me it was an epic novel but it was probably only you know 20 pages long yeah yeah about a spy and i still remember what he was called he was called ijm he was a spy it was just initials for ijm

and he had a girlfriend called cindy and he was just like having adventures and like trying to catch baddies and shoot lasers and stuff he was like kind of a james bond type character what did ijm stand for i didn't know I just called him that and I hadn't really figured out what it stood for. I think I made something up towards the end that was a bit crap. I think I didn't, couldn't think of a male name that started with I. So, I called him Ingrid because I'd heard the name Ingrid Bergman and I thought that was a man. I now know Ingrid Bergman is a woman, but so, I think I called him Ingrid. So So anyway, there's a little bit of trivia I never thought I'd have to share on a podcast. But so anyway, I wrote this spy story about IJM, Ingrid.

And it was so long, it actually spilled into a second journal. And I still remember on the last day of school in year three, and the other girl, Kirstie, had done like a magnificent journal. And I remember the last day of school mrs delbridge sitting at the front of the class and pulling out the five-year diary and saying all right now i'm going to announce who won it and like she opened up the cover where there was a front page with a name where for the person to write their name and she had already written the name and it said brady harron wow and i got and I got the five-year diary. Wow. And I loved it so much and it was so special to me that I was unwilling to write in it

and sully it. So, I never ever used it or wrote in it and I just kept it in a special corner of a drawer in my desk for when I felt I was like worthy to write in it. And I never did. And I've lost it now. I can't even totally remember what it looked like. And if I could have that now, I would dearly love it. I would almost most love it just to see Mrs. Delbridge's having written my name in the front.

But the other thing I would really love would be that IGM spy story. Oh, totally. Yeah, that's gold. Ingrid. Ingrid. Your hero. I can't hear or see Ingrid Bergman now and not think it's a man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's cool. Was it a complete story? Or was it, obviously, if you won, it wasn't just an abandoned story. Yeah, yeah, it had an end. I think, actually, I remember now, IJM died at the end. And, like, his friend paid tribute to him. And that's when his name is revealed. His name's not revealed until after he dies and like towards the end.

And his mate says, I'll never forget the amazing spy work done by Ingrid, whatever the other two names were. I can't remember what the J and the M stood for. R-I-P-I-J-M. It ended only a few, I remember it ended only a couple of pages into book two as well. Like it just spilled out of book one into book two and ended, like disappointingly so. Like that it was just a page of pages into book two as well like it just spilled out of book one into book two and ended like disappointingly so like that it was just a page or two of book two but here you go like a lost masterpiece it is a lost masterpiece yeah all right so that's what you'd

have that makes sense that's just what i thought of yeah so i think that'd be cool i mean because i think there's a story about these sorts of things and well i just it's a shame you don't remember how they're lost we both we both did it didn't we we both had like a boring self-indulgent very personal story to tell about it people got to skip through mine it's not fair we had to sit through yours you didn't know how bad mine was going to be until it finished The other thing I remember And I thought I was so clever to come up with this And it shows how the young mine works Because I wanted there to be lasers and things being shot

And I remember there's this scene Where IJM is about to get shot with a laser gun by a baddie And just as he's about to get shot I was like, I was so influenced by James Bond. I wanted him to have a really clever way to get out of being shot. Like, you know, a James Bond type. Because you know how James Bond always gets out of scrapes and such, you know, he's so innovative. So, the innovative idea I came up with was just as he's about to get shot, he jumps like

to the left and the laser misses him but he was standing in front of a hot donut machine and the the laser or the bullet shoots the donut machine and the boiling i don't know i think i thought it was boiling water i probably wrote it was boiling water but obviously i now realize it's oil or cooking oil or something the boiling oil came out of the donut machine and sprayed back onto the guy that had shot the laser and like burnt his face. No. And I can see how the, I guess I was, what, eight years old?

I can see how the eight-year-old Brady was thinking. He'd been watching James Bond movies. So, he wanted like James Bond to, his IJM to get out of something cleverly. But obviously, I'd also seen a donut machine and had been told how hot and dangerous that liquid was. You know, mum had probably said, don't go too close to the donut machine. That stuff's really dangerous. So, like...

Don't go firing a laser gun into this. Yeah. So, like, when young Brady, eight-year-old Brady's thinking, what's a dangerous thing to hurt the baddie? His brain straight away went to a donut machine because that's what his mum had told him was dangerous. That's very good. Oh, man, how embarrassed would I be reading that now?

So embarrassed. I get really embarrassed by it. You wouldn't be embarrassed. You'd just be charmed. It's charming. No, I get a bit embarrassed and cringy when I see younger me stuff. But don't you hold it up and sort of, it's a different person. Yeah, I know.

You're a child. You hold it up to today's standards and go, oh, this is, there's a lot of other things you should be embarrassed about you doing now rather than stuff back then. Don't get me wrong, I'm embarrassed about those too. Have you listened to any other episodes of the Unmade podcast? I'm probably more embarrassed by the story I just told about IJM. That's right.

I can't believe I've brought IJM back. Like, I guess in some ways I'm cheating. She said I couldn't bring people back from death and IJM did technically die. Yeah, she was a real person. No, hey, don't be bad. Ingrid was a man. Yeah, I'm bringing Ingrid into fashion as a man's name now, based on a childhood misconception.

It does sound like an exotic name. It's got that sort of European exotic feel to it. Yeah, you can just picture me overhearing my mum and dad talking about Ingrid Bergman, the famous, you know, and thinking, oh, if they're famous, they must be a man because I'm a kid and stupid and not thinking it could have been an actress. There we go.

I'd love to still have, and I'd love to hear from other people on the Reddit as well, if they want to put on things. Because I think a lot of people love sharing this kind of stuff and something would immediately come to mind. So share it with us on the Reddit. We will go on to the subreddit and read your equally long and tedious childhood stories about things that mean a lot to you. I'd like to still have the opportunity to do that idea again.

I like it. I think that was a good to you i'd like to still have the opportunity to do that idea again i like it i think that's a good one i enjoyed that hey we should thank our sponsor tim we should thank our sponsor i haven't got like a proper sponsor message here to read right we have we've been sponsored again by hover oh fantastic yes so hover best website best service for going and registering domain names. They've got really easy to search, and then you can get your.coms or your.fms and.nets and. all sorts of other stuff you can't believe even exists, like.ninja. I don't think they have.ijm, but, you know. I don't think.ijm is a thing yet, but if it is, Hover will have it, that's for sure. What's.ninja for? I don't know.

Why would they have.ninja? I don't know who uses that. Maybe it's if you're, like, really good at something, like sure. What's.ninja for? I don't know. Why would they have.ninja? I don't know who uses that. Maybe it's if you're, like, really good at something, like you're the TV.ninja or something. You're good at fixing TV sets or something. Yeah. Let me have a look at what some of them are. What else is on this list?

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Some of them are just sitting there for a rainy day. No, this is good. This is actually really good. They've sponsored loads of episodes, and this is the first time. I know, I know they have. I know. I'll take your word for it, but I'm going going through the process now this is really this is really awesome easy it's got office is good really good interface the price is right there really good interface and the

other thing is that you probably don't realize this tim but normally websites where you register domain names are actually kind of rubbish and complicated and hard to use and this one is very very easy to use i can get tim to get timhine.radio. Yeah. If I wanted to set up my own radio site. There's one here that's timhine.sucks. Normally, these are really cheap, but that one is actually quite expensive.

Otherwise, I would be registering that one. It's like an insult from the late 90s. Like, oh, www.timhine.sucks if that was like 30 bucks which most of them are i would have bought that just to like annoy you but it's too expensive that one i have to get i have to find a cheap one that timhine.ninja is only 19 dollars even less with 10 off hover.com slash unmade i'm many things but i'm not a ninja all right time for an idea from me it feels like we're only going to do one idea each today doesn't it so i feel like i should pick one i was gonna i had two i was gonna do but i'm gonna do just one okay we'll just do one and we'll see how we go look at this tim hein.auto is two and a half

thousand dollars some of them are expensive like it depends2,500. Some of them are expensive. It depends what they are. Some of them are just like... Yeah. Other ones, I'm looking at one here, like TimHine.site is like five bucks. Yep. So, like, it just depends.

I would rather go with Hindsight. You see, that's a great name for a website, Hindsight. Tell you what, Hover are getting good value out of us today. We're still talking about... All right. Are you finished with hover now anyway your idea come on come on um i've got one here that i like but i'm scared that you're gonna get like freaked out by it you'll you'll either love it or you or you'll get all like funny about it i'm gonna go for it i'm gonna go for my i'm gonna go for this one let me tell you what inspired this one because that might be a more gentle way to ease you into the idea okay

someone posted a really beautiful picture on instagram the other day of like a scenic outlook and their comment underneath which was like you know mildly amusing was i think this is the most beautiful place i've ever stopped for a pee because that obviously you know they're on a hike and they went to the toilet in nature like you do and. And it was beautiful scenery. And it did make me think, oh, I've been on some amazing hikes and treks and things. And I've had to go to the toilet and all sorts of interesting places over the years. So, it made me think about a podcast about people talking about interesting places they've had to go to the toilet. It's a very human thing. Places I have peed. And one of the things I really liked about it was you could also give,

because there's this real thing now of naming podcasts after tapes, like, you know, like Forgotten Tapes and Found Tapes and that, you know, the Watergate Tapes and the RFK Tapes and stuff like that. So, I would call this the P-Tapes. The P-Tapes. Because then I can, like, you know, get a bit on the zeitgeist of all the American politics stuff as well. So, the P-Tapes because then i can like you know get a bit on the zeitgeist of all the american politics stuff as well so the p-tapes but this is all about just interesting places and experiences you've had with toilets and sometimes for example it could also just be like magnificent toilets you've been

to like there are some really interesting uh toilets around the world and some really creative and artistic things that have been done with toilets i can think of a few that i've i've been to so the p tapes is all about that most human of moments when we have to do a little wee wee but any interesting stories that are associated with it i went to this really strange toilet once which was not in a very significant place at all but i was at a wedding reception and it was in sort of like a cool um factory like fashion shop it was you know like with high ceilings and stuff like that in in um inner melbourne and i went off to find the toilet and and had to go upstairs and along a corridor and all that and then i opened the door to the toilet and it was a long big room and right and so you sort of open the door and close it and right down the other end of

the room was like an elevated little platform and then the toilet was sitting there like a throne in a throne room yeah and you the room was so big you could have fit like 30 or 40 people in there yeah so it was so strange to close the door walk across the room up onto this platform and then go to the toilet like looking down on a room like you're sitting on a throne and it was i was so self-conscious it was so strange that you'd feel really exposed i imagine like i don't like going to a toilet where i can't reach out and touch the door in case of an emergency that's right yeah yeah it was it was it was like you know someone else could come in but it's almost like you're supposed to. Like, because you're sitting on a throne, it's like, you know, bring in the prisoner.

And there'd be someone leaning in from your right hand saying, you know, your worship. Are you prepared to do that? You know, it was so strange. It was set up for guests. Yeah, that was funny. That's a great example of a really common experience you have and i'm sure you've done this lots of times i certainly have when you're at an interesting venue that's done something creative with their bathroom and you come back to like the dinner table or the event

you're at and you and you say to the other people or your wife or your partner oh my goodness you have to go to the toilet it is the best toilet i've ever seen like that's a really that's quite a common thing these days isn't it oh my goodness make sure even if you don't need to go make sure you just go and have a look at the bathroom before you leave it's amazing yeah yeah the last time i did that it was where there was some sort of water feature where washing your hands involved the water not just coming out of a tap or force it or whatever you call it wherever you are but it actually sort of went along a little path and down a bit and around.

You know what I mean? Like through this little journey before it got to you. I love that stuff. Yeah, yeah. Like a little Rube Goldberg type machine for the water. I think this is a good idea, by the way. I think it's a really interesting idea. The one that keeps coming into my mind is when I went to the Himalayas,

when I went to Everest Base Camp and you're doing all these like treks on the way there over the days there was one toilet i went to which was like you know like a like a long drop type uh outhouse at some little cafe where you stop for a coffee and they've got some pretty rudimentary bathroom out the back and like sitting on one of those sort of long droppy type hole toilets in the ground is a a gritty enough experience at the best of times but the thing that made this toilet extra interesting is that a really common thing in nepal where there's not a lot of wood and trees because you're up so high but they need stuff to burn in their cookers and burners and ovens and heaters, is they keep yak poo and they flatten it down into like a pancake shape.

And then they just dry it out over like, you know, days or weeks or months. And then when it's really dry, you get these like dry, hard yak poo pancakes. And you just break them in half or break them into quarters and stuff them into your burner, and that's what they're used to burn. That's just, you know, that's what they do. Oh, right, okay. Yeah. But so you need somewhere to dry out all these yak poo pancakes,

and you quite often will just see a wall of them, like as high as a bookshelf, like all neatly stacked like a stone wall, except they're these yak poo pancakes. They're just these brown dark brown pancakes and this toilet i went to happened to be where they were also drying out their yak poo and they use that like as the walls of the toilet so you're sitting on the toilet and to your left and to your right and behind you at least six or seven foot high were just walls of yak poo pancakes so close to you that you know you'd brush them with your elbows so it was this weird experience of going to to a long drop toilet

which is you know not the best experience in the world and you're doing it literally surrounded on three sides by walls of poo oh wow lovely that's fascinating i liked it that was in the himalayas was it yes? Yes. Yes, it was. Near, not far from Everest. Where's the most exclusive place that you've ever gone to the bathroom? Oh, that's a good question. I've got a friend who interviewed Bill Gates and went and used Bill Gates' personal toilet in his office. Oh, right.

Okay. At his workplace. That's not me. Yeah. The most exclusive. I did a tour of Buckingham Palace, but I don't remember using, I didn't even think of it, to use a bathroom. And I'm pretty sure you would have gone to the outside touristy kind of area.

Yes, I'm sure. I don't think that would have led you to the Queen's personal throne room. That's right. That's right. Here's the throne room. Oh, I did the other throne room. So you've just been at a couple of hotels, haven't you, in Scandinavia somewhere and

wasn't one of them did they have novelty bathrooms that's yeah well i just i just went to the ice hotel in sweden and i went to the tree hotel but the ice hotel just had normal toilets and the tree hotel oh yeah that's right the Tree Hotel did have toilets in the room. So, these were these rooms up in trees that were all specially themed. Like one of them's a big mirror cube and one of them's a huge bird's nest and things like that. I'll post some pictures. And I posted a bunch of pictures on my own Instagram. It was a really amazing place to stay. But there was no plumbing because these things are tree houses.

So, they had these toilets called Cinderella's, which you would go to. And they were like just kind of like a normal toilet. But you would have to put like a little paper bag in the catchment area before you went. And then you would do what you had to do. And then you pressed a button and like a trap door opened and that paper bag disappeared. And it incinerated what you'd just done with like, you know, 600 degree fire and just created ash. And presumably every day or two, they just empty out all the ash. Wow.

It was funny. It was like every time you went to the toilet, there was like a little cremation ceremony for what you just did. Wow. That is that. That's crazy. That's funny. That's amazing. Cinderella, I thought, was a clever name for it.

Why is it called Cinderella? Because of the cinders and, you know, Cinderella. The name Cinderella is based on the person who has to clean out all the cinders and the ash and stuff, isn't it? Of course, of course it is. Yes, yes. It's really funny. Just before you came here, I was put on for a moment

an Australian film called Kenny. Have you seen Kenny? I have, here, I was put on for a moment an Australian film called Kenny. Have you seen Kenny? I have, yes. I have. Yeah, which is if you can look it up wherever you are, it did have an international release, I think. But it's a very funny Australian quirky film about it's almost like a little mockumentary kind of thing about a character whose job it is to take those temporary toilets to big festivals and and um events and so forth and he drops them off you know and people use them those you know temporary toilets and plums them up and then takes them away again at the end of the day or at the end of the week or whatever

and he's a really quintessentially adorable kind of australian character it's a very charming film it was very it wasn't quite what i expected, like, lots of jokes involving poo and stuff like that. But it was actually a really charming, feel-good love story that was just like, it was just a little ray of sunshine, that film. It was just a little piece of goodness. No, I loved it, yeah. But he's, you know, kind of in the industry, and I can imagine he might enjoy this podcast.

Yeah, he meets his love interest on a plane, doesn't he? Because she's a flight attendant and there's a problem with the toilet And he like fixes it because he's a toilet expert That's right, on the way over to Texas or somewhere, isn't he? He's going to a, yeah, yeah I didn't get very far with it and I'll go back and watch the rest of it I haven't seen it for years and years But yeah, Kenny with a K

Yeah, that's a great film Well, it's a good film It's a good, funny, charming film Yeah, yeah All about the same topic as your podcast let's do an idea from a patreon supporter to finish off oh good stuff i was talking to someone the other day who's holding back on becoming a patreon supporter because they didn't want to join um they didn't want to become a supporter until they had an idea in case they got an email from you requesting an

idea and they didn't have one so they've been saving up becoming a patreon supporter until i and i and i said to her i said to her name is katrina and i said katrina katrina that's no reason to hold back but we would love to hear an idea from her and if you do become a patreon supporter i i do occasionally get in touch and call for people to send in ideas but like you don't have to give an idea straight away coming up with an idea is just like a perk of being a patreon supporter what you're really doing is supporting us to be able to make more episodes and we appreciate everyone who supports us on patreon and we appreciate everyone who listens and doesn't support us on Patreon. But if you want to, go to patreon.com slash unmade FM.

I can never remember if there's an underscore in it. There's not. It's just unmade FM. Patreon.com slash unmade FM. Much appreciated. So anyway, one person who did take the plunge and helps us out is Swan. Swan. Brackets pronounced like the bird.

Oh, right. But is it spelt like the bird? Two Ns, not one. Swan is from France, from Toulouse, and he's also put in brackets Toulouse, in case I didn't know how to pronounce Toulouse. I do know how to pronounce Toulouse, because I actually had a dog named Toulouse once, believe it or not.

Swan is a physiotherapist. I've worked two years in a hospital in the Department of Neurology and now work as a self-independent physio going to different places. Swan describes himself as an outdoorsman. So, he's probably peed in all sorts of interesting places as he does many mountain trips and likes climbing. There's a whole bunch of stuff about his fitness and running, but he does like listening to our ideas while he's running. He says, I sometimes crack in laughter and it's quite weird from an outsider's point of view. As he's running along, that's fantastic. So, his podcast idea, which is quite a good one, is called Super Duper normal. And the point is to rephrase something normal,

but to make it sound as awesome as it actually is. For example, binocular vision, he says, could be called depth perception gaze. Talking could be called air-transmitted telepathy. A rainbow could be called unexpected watery diffraction. It could cover a large panel of domain, but science stuff is surely the most prone to this. You could then go on to explain the phenomenon

and try to imagine variations of it. I don't know if this would be a long podcast, maybe just 10, 15 minute explanation discussions. It's a bit of a nerdy type of podcast, but it could be liked by some people. Have an excellent day, says Swan. So this is the idea, they've got to be technical is that right so it's not just cool names for things i think it's taking something that has like

a normal name that you take for granted and giving it a a name that kind of conveys how awesome it is like i can't what i know uh yeah yeah yeah A pencil could be called a... Slow lead dispenser or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Graphite communication device or... Yeah. That's right. Yeah. And the idea around these as well is to avoid being pretentious about it,

but actually to demonstrate... Pencils are pretty incredible inventions, actually. You know what I mean? You take them for granted, for granted Or the opposite could be Or you could try to be maximum pretentious Could be the other way you take it And try to add as much grandioseness as possible To something that isn't that grandiose

You were tweeting something about this this week About something I remember you said Something was given an overly complicated name I can't remember what it is now I was saying to someone today what you told me years ago the idea of the name of sky juice for water sky juice that rings a bell did i say that did i yeah i think you told me that like a decade ago or something for rain um yeah for rain yeah anyway i i i've kind of thrown that at us so i haven't

really thought much about it when i was just reading it a second ago i was trying to think of something that had been in the news a lot that i could apply this to and the first thing that came into my mind was this recent story about this new picture of a black hole and i was trying to think of a name for a black hole like you know gravitational catastrophe point or something and then i thought hang on black hole actually is a pretty awesome name already if there's any if there's anything in the universe that doesn't need a cooler name it's a black hole i've got stationary in front of me and there's a pair of scissors and i'm trying to think about like opposable yeah a binary blade paper incisor

yeah that's right. Cool. Good idea, Swan. Yeah, I think this is an idea that you could sit around and have a lot of fun with. In fact, you could just do it for fun yourself. It's not necessarily the kind of thing I think would work in a podcast, unless it was a very brief idea for the day kind of one. Or you have a bunch prepared. Yeah, we've had a bit of preparation.

You'd also probably have a little bit about the history of scissors and different kinds of scissors and things like that. So, you know, I can. And where they got their current name from. That's the thing. Yes, yes, indeed, indeed. Tim. Yeah.

It was a pleasure as always. It was a pleasure. It was a pleasure. Keep in touch with what's going on at the sofa shop. People have probably got through this episode in record time because of all the jumping forward they did earlier on. Skipping on tim's bits go back and listen again i wonder if there's anyone that listens to the podcast with that

and they get they they have like they like the ideas of one person but not the other like so for instance they only listen for brady's ideas so they just are tim's on skip skip skip skip skip skip you know what i mean and then jump bang yeah well that's what i do do you have do you have a version of um brady's greatest hits where you've gone through and just just got your parts with all i've actually set up two feeds of the unmade podcast right and there's one where it's just all my ideas and you're completely cut out yeah and then there's the ones that you are in and you're the only person who I send that to. And like, I've sent you the link to it and you think that's what we're making every week and you listen to it and think, oh, that's brilliant. But all the people who are listening and supporters of Patreon and all that, they have a different RSS feed and they're actually just listening to me.

They don't even know who you are. Like, it's just. I'm living in my own podcast truman show yeah so you're you were in the sofa shop the other day talking to them saying oh yeah i do the unmade podcast and they're like are you brady and you're like no i'm tim and they're like what the unmade podcast is just brady no he must be the silent producer or someone like he's just one of brady's minions yeah so i hope you've enjoyed

this episode tim because you're the only person listening to it we should just at the end of every podcast have a message saying by the way loads of stuff you just heard was wrong please disregard everything i. I think our reputation may precede us in that regard and we may not need. It's just implicit. That's how the judge goes, but it's Tim and Brady. Of course we don't take it seriously. Case dismissed.