The Unmade Podcast - 28: The Fanta Shorts
Episode Date: July 15, 2019We discuss T-shirts, more misunderstandings, forming a band, Firepigs, and favourite articles of clothing. Thank you Storyblocks Video for sponsoring this episode. Check out storyblocks.com/Unmade to ...learn more - https://storyblocks.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/cdlwyn USEFUL LINKS Official Unmade Podcast Merchandise - get some before Tim buys it all - https://teespring.com/stores/the-unmade-podcast Paul Hewson - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bono Noel Gallagher's scissors player - https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/noel-had-someone-playing-scissors-last-night-and-people-are-confused-2155344 Scissors on Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scissors Periodic Videos - with Sir Martyn Poliakoff - https://www.youtube.com/user/periodicvideos We Are Scientists - http://wearescientists.com Firepigs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KxTcDsy9Gs The actual Fanta Shorts - https://www.unmade.fm/the-fanta-shorts The Shroud of Turin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin Happy Pants - https://www.pinterest.co.uk/donziejonzie/-happy-pants-/ Liverpool 89-91 shirt - https://store.liverpoolfc.com/candy-home-shirt-change-me
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Hang on, your sound's gone crazy, man.
It's gone nuts.
If you can hear me, man, I think you better hang up and call again.
I think we should mention I've done a bit of a reboot and a refresh
of our merchandise store on Teespring.
So if anyone wants any T-shirts or a cup or a sticker or anything like that,
we'll put links in the show notes.
Or you can just Google Teespring and Unmade Podcast.
Make sure you're buying like official merchandise
and not all the knockoff stuff that, you know, is a burgeoning industry.
I noticed that.
It's good.
I like it.
There's a few new designs.
It's looking very clean, very sharp.
I have to say, I'm able actually to see statistics
of where stuff's like being ordered.
And it is very apparent that most of the orders are being made by you why would i be buying my own merchandise are you denying it no well i do buy samples of different
ones yeah for myself and kind of a posterity but i got a few tshirts. Surely someone else is buying them or you wouldn't have renewed it.
You wouldn't keep it going and be bothered, man.
I'm just making a fortune off of you.
It is cool when you see them around.
I tell you, bump into someone and they're wearing one.
It's like, oh, that's great.
Yeah.
Where does that happen?
Oh, it happens around.
It's happened at work.
When you look in the mirror.
No.
Oh, you look very handsome, me.
You give them to family members and then insist they wear them when you meet mutual comfort.
I could just see you guys all around the dinner table all looking, everyone looking glum being forced to wear their Unmade Podcast T-shirt for the ninth night in a row.
We're not buying winter clothes this year, kids.
We're just wearing these.
We're going to a wedding today so i want you
to wear your really nice unmade podcast t-shirts today we should do an unmade podcast tie surely
that would be great a tux for special occasions i did wear i have got a honey prawns t-shirt and
i wore my honey prawns t-shirt out yesterday
And I was waiting for someone to say
Wow, that's really cool, what does that say?
Like, you know, does that mean faith or inspiration or hope?
And I was going to say
No, Honey Prawns
August Moon, Diagonal Road
But it didn't happen
No one noticed, no one commented
Well, I'm not saying no one noticed
No one commented
Okay, fair enough They were probably too embarrassed to go up to someone Well, I'm not saying no one noticed. No one commented. Okay, fair enough.
They were probably too embarrassed to go up to someone who is-
Well, they probably already knew because it's so famous now.
Well, that's right.
They have been quite popular, those t-shirts, haven't they?
You said that.
Yeah, yeah.
In fact, seven of them were sold to someone in Adelaide.
How did I know they'd been so popular?
Well, I just happened to have some.
Because you bought them all.
But I've added there one that's just the Unmade Podcast logo now,
and I quite like that one.
So have you got one of them yet?
No, I actually don't.
You're waiting for those eight to arrive in the post.
That's right.
No, they look nice.
Actually, I bought two plain white T-shirts the other day,
because it's winter here, so I sort of wear them, you know, just sort of Calvin Klein,
nice clingy one underneath my shirt to work and stuff.
And I was just thinking, oh,
should have got some unmade podcast ones instead now.
It's never too late.
Yeah, well, it's not.
I'll get on there.
Yeah, no, but I think they look good.
They look classy.
I like the unmade in different countries ones, actually.
I like that a lot.
That was my idea.
I've discontinued them. Yeah. I've discontinuedmade in different countries ones, actually. I like that a lot. That was my idea.
I've discontinued them.
Yeah.
I've discontinued them.
So, snap them up.
They'll start appearing on eBay for exorbitant prices soon.
You can't do anything about that.
As Tim tries to offload all this stock he's got in his spare room.
That's right.
For instance, in an hour, there will be a box of them on there going for a crazy price.
You could flood the market.
You're like, you know, Saudi Arabia, how it controls all the world's oil supply.
You've just got this huge stock of unmade podcast T-shirts that you could just release as you see fit to control world prices.
Oh, that's right.
I like how you once commented.
And I think there's a bit of truth in this. I like the T-shirt merchandise because it's, I've got a whole bunch of band t-shirts right that and
i kept them all for yeah surprise surprise you know for posterity bit of nostalgia all these
old band t-shirt jeff buckley and rem and all these old ones and um the fact that we have our
own t-shirt kind of makes me feel like we're in a band it's cool yeah yeah you're living your fantasy
yeah yeah it's all about the t-shirt hold that thought because we might come back to it in a minute.
But can I follow up a few things from the previous episode?
We don't often, you know, follow up on stuff from previous episodes,
but I found it really interesting some of the things that arose
from our last episode, which was the one that was called,
what was it called?
Misunderstood, I think.
I don't presume that people listen to more than one episode,
so I never feel like I can refer to another one.
Yeah.
Well, a few things I wanted to point out.
One was I admitted to how I thought the song Piano Man was a duet between a man and a woman for many years.
I didn't realize Billy Joel was just changing the pitch of his voice.
That was embarrassing.
Well, you'd think so.
the pitch of his voice.
That was embarrassing.
Well, you'd think so, but can I say how vindicated I feel by the number of people that have been in touch on Reddit
and social media and email saying, I thought the same thing.
In fact, some people thought the exact same thing
until they heard our episode where I revealed that it was one person.
So this was not as rare as I thought.
I thought I was probably the only person in the world
that had made this mistake.
Turns out, pretty, well, I won't say common, but it turns out I'm not the only person in the world that had made this mistake. Turns out pretty well, I won't say common,
but it turns out I'm not the only person in the world.
I'm not even the only person involved with the Unmade podcast.
Yeah. I was surprised.
In fact, even when you told me that in the last,
when you shared that in the last episode, I was thinking,
ah, did he really think this like genuinely believe it?
Or was it like a fleeting thought, but then it's like common sense kicked in.
But no, it seems like that you and many others have held on to this um delusion for quite a long time just to
be clear i i figured it out with reasonably quickly other people have gone into adulthood well
yeah no that is a worry but i tell you i well in a similar vein my my story about the final scene of Jurassic Park, where the birds, to me, appeared as pterodactyls.
Well, likewise.
Yes.
There were quite a few people who were either just giving me some encouraging sympathy or they too felt the same.
They'd seen the same thing.
And I thought, oh, well, I felt quite encouraged.
Yeah.
Vindicated.
Yeah. Much more so even than my billy joe one which really surprised me apparently one of the later
films does end with a pterodactyl flying away which muddies the waters a bit more but i i watched
jurassic park the other day just i just got in the mood to watch it again because of that and
i again thought what were you thinking tim but but yeah you're right loads of loads of people
thought it. So,
really interesting. I actually really enjoyed a lot of the feedback from people with their own
misconceptions and mistakes they had from childhood. I enjoyed another classic that I
didn't think of, but many people thought, and that was the person who wrote in and said that
for many years they thought Darth Vader was Dark Vader.
Yeah. I've heard that mispronounced before by someone in a meeting and not corrected them.
Yeah.
So, that person is definitely not alone either.
Did you not correct them in the meeting or did you just give them like a force choke
and kill them on the desk?
No, that's right.
I find your mispronunciation disturbing.
Don't be too embarrassing.
I find your mispronunciation disturbing.
Don't be too embarrassing.
Can I just ask what formal meeting you were in that required someone to bring up Darth or Darth Vader?
No, I don't want to go into it.
It was just...
Anyway, it was years ago in a galaxy far, far away.
Okay.
Can I just say how jealous I am that you get to sit at meetings where you talk about Darth Vader?
I didn't know such meetings existed,
except maybe like Star Wars production meetings.
Let me clarify.
The purpose of the meeting wasn't to iron out the pronunciation
of Darth Vader's name.
This is where it emerges that Tim was on the script writing team
for Phantom Menace
He's just too embarrassed to admit it
I don't want to talk about my role in Phantom Menace
That's right
That's right
It's too embarrassing
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if someone on the scriptwriting team for Phantom Menace
Actually did not know the correct name of Darth Vader
They stuffed up so much other stuff.
I wouldn't be surprised if George Lucas called him Dark Vader
and someone smart changed it.
That's right.
Knowing George Lucas, he'll go back to the original films
and re-edit them, like touch them up with changing Darth Vader.
Change it to Dark Vader.
And have them fighting with laser swords.
That's right. Or lifesaesavers as we called them as kids
You can just imagine them not quite getting the voice right
Like only a master of evil
Dark
Like it's a
Dark Vader only you could be so bold
George just can't keep his hands off those movies
And then he'll change all the references from dark to Darth
Come to the Darth side of the force
They swap them around
The Darth side of the force
Maybe that's what it's supposed to be
And he just happened to be naming that character
Having been to the dentist that day
And he couldn't miss any mispronouncer every time he said the name
Speech impediment He's Darth Vader, he's on the dark side of the force it's like well you you
said darth he goes i was my face was numb i've been watching a lot of old films lately actually
from like the 80s and 90s or like like listening to reviews of them and stuff like that and it is
interesting when you start revisiting that time, all the mistakes and misconceptions you realise you had.
Like what?
Top Gun, right?
You know Goose in Top Gun?
I do.
Sits behind Maverick.
Yeah.
And watching that film, I never quite understood the word, but I always heard Goose's role in the plane being referred to as a rearer or rearer, your rear.
And I thought it was rear as in you're in the rear of the plane
yeah rea oh yeah i'm i'm his rear you know i'm the guy that sits behind him at the rear of the plane
yeah but it never quite sounded right to me and it turns out it's because they're not saying rear
they're saying rio and it's and it's a like it's a acronym for radarar Intercept Officer, RIO, that's the role in the plane.
You're the RIO.
You're Rio.
Oh, there you go.
Oh, that's interesting.
That seems a bit technical for Goose.
I mean, is he up to that?
I don't know, yeah.
He's good with the gags.
I don't know if I'd put him to work on the fuel injection system or anything like that.
And you know, it's a really obscure scene in the scheme of things in Raiders of the Lost Ark
when Marion's monkey runs away into the markets and she loses it
because it's going back to its real owner.
And she's really distracted.
And Indiana Jones is trying to get her attention back.
And he says, have one of these.
And she's like, what is it?
And he says, it's a date. You
eat them. It's a date. You eat them. It's just like a, it's a throwaway line. It means nothing.
But when I was young, I didn't know that a date was a thing that you would eat because that's
way too exotic for Adelaide. So, I thought he was telling her that we're on a date. What is this?
And he's saying, it's a date. And I thought he said, you need them date and i thought he said you need them it's a date
you need them you need to go on dates it's like a good thing to do and i thought that for years and
years and years that they were out on a date and he was he was explaining that to her that we're
on a date out in the markets when really he was just offering her a date to eat there's no end to
your like delusions is there like this i know i know i could i could i've got i've got a list of 10 more here can i just run through them we're not we're not actually making this podcast it's the
unmade podcast man this this podcast is called go through brady as he learns the english language
in real time as brady lives his life over again and corrects and clarifies every detail i'm doing a george lucas i'm correcting
everything i'm doing a special edition of my life leave it alone man stop tinkering
i'm adding new effects i'll stop only because you've shamed me it would be bad because every
time there's been like a minor explosion it would be now a massive explosion with extra special
effects in your life like can you like every time you've turned on a bunsen explosion it would be now a massive explosion with extra special effects in
your life like can you like every time you've turned on a bunsen burner it would be a massive
flame because and there'd be like robots stepping in poop and all sorts of stuff that's right and
jabba the hut would just be appearing like in the background of scenes at school. I'm going to do what I often do and throw in a last minute idea as my podcast idea.
Wow. Is this an idea you've had since we've been recording, like right now,
or is it from earlier today? It's from about 10 minutes before we started.
All right. I think that's prime time, to be honest.
It was while I was in the shower and the shower is my ideas place.
Right.
You have short showers, don't you?
I should probably make it my cleaning place, but at the moment it's just my ideas place.
So, basically, I was thinking about the t-shirts and how you love buying the t-shirts because it makes you feel like you're in a band.
Right. makes you feel like you're in a band right and and then it made me think what a good idea it
would be for a podcast to have guests this is one where it's like a get to know you guest type
podcast and each guest puts together their dream band oh but here's the catch here no don't get
excited i'm about to take away what you hope this is. Oh, man. Because the idea here is that there is no musical component to this. The putting together of your
dream band is not like picking like the greatest drummer from history and the greatest singer and
that. It's you picking people from your life who don't necessarily have any musical ability. They
might not be able to play an instrument. They might not be able to sing. You can decide the
criteria as the guest, but it's people from your life that you're going to put in your band and you talk
about why they're in the band. Right. So, it's kind of like, you know, amongst your friends and
colleagues and people you know, if you're pulling them together to be the next big band and you're
going to go on tour and become famous together and travel the world, who do you want? Music is
not a factor. We can just assume they magically can play all the instruments and know all the songs to a professional level.
So who do you want in your band and why?
So, but the music would be important.
So it's like we'd be playing this kind of music because.
No, not necessarily.
Not necessarily.
It could just be, I like this person or their personality would be good for the band or to be a good mix or things like that.
I choose so-and-so because I choose my friend Bill because he's a really nice guy and we travel well together.
And I know we'd get along well on the tour bus and there wouldn't be fights and stuff like that.
Or I pick my friend Lee because he's a big charismatic show-off and I think he'd be a great front man for the band and things like that.
It could be, you could take it how you want.
It is funny how you sort of, you imagine people like in a band playing certain things.
Like, like when you see a band photo in a, in a, in a magazine and you don't really know the band, it's funny to try and think who plays what.
And you always assume the tall lanky guy is the bass player.
Just because it's just something, you know what I mean? Tall and lanky and the hairiest guy is the drummer yeah yeah yeah so you'd probably
categorize your friends and family along those lines and and and you know obviously the and the
best looking person the cool looking person is the john bon jovi is the um the lead singer yeah
yeah so would i would i be in your band tim Tim? Well, let me think.
What would you play?
Well, based on what you just said, I'm assuming I'm the lead singer.
Sorry, sorry.
I meant what would you play while you were singing is what I was trying to think.
Do you think everyone sees themselves as the lead singer in their band?
I think they probably do.
It is funny how you come to see a band and
how perfectly they fit that like when you think of that they become so quintessential like the
beatles or you too where you're used to seeing him it's like it's so funny that you know edge
was made to look like someone who'd had their head down playing guitar in you too it's like he was
born to do that in retrospect you know what I mean it just appears like what a
coincidence he looks like a guy who would play guitar in U2 and it's just of course it's just
imprinted on your mind because it's the way it's always been the same with the Rolling Stones
you can't imagine Mick Jagger being anything else or doing anything else can I ask you a little
side note question here actually I thought of this yesterday while i was out on a walk and you were the person i wanted to ask it's a you too question how excited are you about this okay
yeah do the members of you too like you know edge and all that do they call bono bono or do they
call him paul when they're just amongst themselves like you know at a starbucks or something they
they they do call it they seem to call him bono He said once that his father called him Paul
Paul Hewson is his name
For those not aware
And that his father called him Paul
But everyone else called him Bono
Because they would have known him when he was still Paul
Yeah, yeah, they were all at school together
But as teenagers they all took on these funny names
As part of this little village clan they had going
His full name is Bono Vox
Named after a shop that sold hearing aids
and things in Dublin somewhere.
So it's not like the Edge would say to his wife, you know,
oh, it's Paul on the phone.
He'd say, it's Bono on the phone.
Yeah, they seem to.
It seems synonymous.
Do you think Bono and the Edge would ever phone each other?
Yeah, I think so.
They actually holiday together.
Oh, right.
They co-own side-by-side villas in the south of France.
So they actually go on holidays together.
They're families.
Oh, wow.
So you still haven't answered my question.
Am I in your band?
Yes.
Yes, you're in my band.
You're.
I wanted to get that on record before I say that you're not in mine.
For the purposes of this hypothetical band
not many bands have tambourine players anymore but i think it's a an underappreciated skill
and i can see in fact you know who you could be noel gallagher at the moment right is touring
with his touring band which is not oasis obviously he's a solo artist now and he has a scissors
player he has a French girl that plays scissors
and she goes click, click, click with her scissors at some part,
which I think is just fabulous.
Let me give the people at home just a sample of my scissors playing.
I have a pair here.
Are you ready?
Yep.
Here we go.
Give me a song request and I'll play one for you.
What's a good scissors song?
Do you want me to... Let's do the start of Zoo Station.
You ready?
See?
You do the do-do part and I'll do the drums.
You ready?
Go.
No, I don't want to do the do-do.
Do-do. Do-do. And I'll do the drums. You ready? Go. No, I don't want to do the drums. I'm on fire.
Brady Haran on scissors.
Yeah.
Try something a bit more melodic.
Something like, with a little help from my friends.
Yeah, I'll get by with a little help from my friends. Yeah, I get high with a little help from my friends.
Yeah, I get high with a little help from my friends.
That's pretty good.
Do you need anybody?
I want somebody to love.
Yeah.
That's good.
That's good.
That's actually really good.
It's like you're cutting someone's hair and singing along at the same time.
Oh, yeah.
That's great.
I love it.
And like when there's a big number at the end, what I do is I cover my scissors in like a flammable gel and set them on fire and still play them.
There was that one tragic gig where I decided to throw the scissors to a fan in the audience at the end.
It kind of went wrong.
I can see rock T-shirts with big pairs of scissors on them now.
Like they are...
Available now.
Unmade podcast.
Store.
Teespring store.
Brady Haran scissors.
Well, you know how Metallica will have a skull with a sword coming out of it or a gun from Guns N' Roses?
We'll just have a pair of scissors.
Who else is in your band?
Me on scissors.
Yeah, I like you on scissors.
And that's good because once the scissors, you've got that person nailed,
you can kind of build the band around them.
So you're anointing yourself as lead singer presumably oh look i don't i don't know if i'm i'm i'm worthy of that i've actually
i play guitar so i actually kind of like the idea of anchoring the guitar side of it oh no
no i'm only kidding i will be singing you can still still have the guitar for the odd song, you know,
like Garth Brooks, just for looks.
Just pull it out for looks.
So I've got something to smash at the end of the song.
That's the cool thing to do.
Yeah.
Or to give away to someone.
I love the idea of just having a guitar so that I can take it off
and hand it to some kid in the crowd and go, there you go.
And the kid's like, can I have one that was actually played?
The kid just hands it back.
And I'd like to be able to say to the rest of the audience,
and you can get yours out in the foyer for $4,444.
You're all going, you get a guitar, you get a guitar, you get a guitar.
I want Brady Scissors.
Brady Scissors, Brady Scissors Brady Scissors Brady Scissors
Now don't run with those boys
Young man
Would there be a moment in the gig
Where you and all the other band members
Like go into darkness
And just quietly leave the stage
And I get to do my big scissor solo
That would be
Just a little spotlight
Click click
Yeah
But you've got to be careful Because when you hand them back to the roadie You've got to like That would be just a little spotlight. Click, click. Yeah.
But you've got to be careful because when you hand them back to the roadie,
you've got to, like, make sure you hand them handles first.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I'm just picturing the roadie coming out with a little pot with eight pairs of scissors in it,
and I pick which one I want for that song.
Oh, dear.
I remember when I saw Bruce Springsteen, right?
He would finish a song, take off his guitar and throw it backstage. Like not angrily, just up in the air.
It would be caught by a roadie.
And it was like amazingly cool sort of maneuver.
But I wouldn't recommend that with scissors.
That's far too dangerous.
No, no.
Yeah.
No.
You've got to be careful with scissors.
You going to throw anyone else in the band or just me and you?
Scissors and me singing. You not playing to be careful with scissors. You going to throw anyone else in the band or just me and you? Scissors and me singing.
You not playing guitar, me on scissors.
We're kind of lacking a bit of sound here.
I feel like we need to open it for auditions.
You know, I don't know if I want to just grab people,
but I know that's the purpose of your group, isn't it?
I like to think of my mum being able to be involved somehow.
Oh, yeah.
Mum would be, she'd be a very interesting member of the group i'm not sure
what she'd play well she does play a bit of piano this is a funny story did you know we've got a
piano right and it was given to me by my auntie and we've actually passed it on now but while we
had it my mum was at the house and she suddenly said oh yes this is what i learned on and i said
do you know how to play piano and she said oh yes and she sat down and played a
little bit of piano and i had no idea my entire life that my mum knew how to play a little bit
of piano but it never come up i like this idea i think it could have some fun but it it feels like
you'd have to have someone talking or guests with pretty good abilities to highlight the
sort of funnier sides
of different people they know and different members of it.
You know what I mean?
Like if they could do that in an entertaining way, that would be,
that's a premise for telling some fun stories, that's for sure.
Yeah.
Pulling together.
Like, for example, my band, I've decided who my drummer's going to be,
I think, and it's going to be Professor Sir Martin Polyakov
from my chemistry videos.
Wow, yeah, I can see him behind drums.
With his big frizzy hair, big glasses.
Yeah.
Imagine him on drums.
That's awesome.
Lenny Kravitz had someone who had a massive afro on drums as well.
I think it may have been a lady, but it means I can...
Yeah, it was.
It was a woman, wasn't it?
Yeah.
I can picture the professor there.
That's cool.
Who else?
Well, I felt like I should put you in the band because if I started a band and I didn't put you in it, I think you'd probably be pretty angry at me.
I was going to put you on guitar, but then I thought it'd be more fun to put you on bass because you'd be a bit frustrated by that.
I'll let you be lead guitar.
I'm obviously lead singer right okay
and like and sing a songwriter like i write the songs as well oh right what does the band sound
like like who is this i know you're a big dire straits kind of fan is it that indie rock kind
of indie rock a little bit of glam but do you know what i think would be another fun part of
this podcast would be and that's like it's the finale to every episode yeah naming the band oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a great idea i i want to give mine like quite a sciencey name
and the first two that came to my head i haven't thought much about it and i'm sure i could come
with a lot of better ones but the first two i thought of were either the neutron stars or
the radioactive isotopes that one's better the second one yeah that's good yeah yeah yeah i think the
neutron stars because if it's a more glammy band like muse or something no that sounds like some
scientists getting together for a fun band at the you know end of the year whereas the um okay the
isotopes is kind of it kind of has a bit of a yeah that sounds a bit like more like you were science
students but you got a band together and you've actually made it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The baseball team, of course, in The Simpsons is called The Isotopes.
You know the band We Are Scientists?
Yeah.
Which is a favourite band of mine.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, they are.
I'm going and seeing them in Berlin later this year.
Oh, really?
Special trip just to Berlin to see them.
They were so named because one time they were, like, moving or something.
They were, like um you know with all
their gear and their equipment all in boxes and the guy that was helping move them didn't know
what what they did and he was like and he was just having to stack all these boxes into a truck
and he said to them like what do you guys do like are you scientists or something and they said yeah
yep we're scientists well that's how the name came about well that's not bad the most unusual
name i've heard recently this is for an an artist, is Joan as Policewoman.
I've not, I heard it years ago, but I thought, isn't that classic?
It's almost like the start of an old 70s TV show.
You know what I mean?
And the characters, you know, Joan as Policewoman, like as the guest stars or something like that.
But I don't know the origins of the name.
What's your band called?
I'm going to go with Fire Pigs. Not because I i like it but because it's a bit of a running joke with one
of my daughters actually and i can't even remember how it started but we've got a band called the
fire pigs that we pretend that we're in and we have a little plastic pig that sits on the um the
dashboard of the car and that's sort of our little mascot, which came from, you know, like a little fate secondhand sale
that we were at.
Yeah, the Fire Pigs.
So we always joke about recording it.
That's cool.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a cool name.
I could see that working.
Is Fire Pigs one word or two words?
I always picture it as one word, but I can see it as two.
I'm not sure, but yeah.
Well, you have to make a decision now in case, you know,
because it's going to be in text now.
It could be the title of the episode for all you know.
Well, that's right.
That's right.
Fire Pigs.
Yeah.
The Fire Pigs featuring Brady Haran on scissors.
I kind of.
The Fire Pigs or Fire Pigs is harder too.
Let me write it down and see.
Oh, yes. Are you going to put a the in it? That's a big question. The fire pigs or fire pigs is harder to Let me write it down and see The Oh yes
Are you going to put a the in it
That's a big question
I think just fire pigs
Fire pigs
It's a bit more
Sort of
New millennium isn't it
You know
Kind of know the
Bold
Yeah
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I can see now the Fire Pigs album cover would be the battersea fire
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battersea power station that's what i said but the floating pig over the top like the the hot
air balloon pig that they had except it's it's exploding it's on fire so it's kind of a combination
of the led zeppelin album cover and the pig onindenburg. Yeah. I cannot wait for the fire pig's first album.
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You literally do.
You even have a scissors player.
Not many bands have a scissors player at this stage of their development.
We're way.
No.
Before they have a single song.
I was trying to think if I got it.
Can you think of a song that features the word scissors?
There's plenty with knife.
The Scissor Sisters is a band.
Oh, yeah, that's a band, yeah.
Yeah.
I was thinking of Brian Adams has cuts like a knife.
There's a lot of knife.
A song with scissors in the name.
Let me ask my friend, Dr. Google.
Yeah.
Scissors by Slipknot, 1999.
Oh, yeah. Running with Scissors by I See Stars. friend, Dr. Google. Yeah. Scissors by Slipknot, 1999. Oh, yeah.
Running with Scissors by I See Stars.
All right.
Paper Scissors Rock by Chris Brown.
Save Your Scissors, Dallas Green.
Scissors in the Sand by Echo and the Bunnymen.
All right.
Now, the thing is, can I find a song that hasn't got scissors in the name?
The Scissors song?
Oh, no, that does.
Scissors. They are interesting scissors aren't they they're quite genius the way they work oh yeah the the guy who invented scissors
sir edward scissors is a is a genius the scissors i'm looking up wikipedia now just reading up on
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The Wikipedia page has a pair of scissors and then underneath it says a pair of standard scissors.
And it's such an informative website.
All right.
Shall we move on to another idea?
Please.
Because, well, it's funny that my idea actually keeps the clothing conversation that we were having earlier about the cool new T-shirts.
It's in a similar vein.
Because I haven't got a cool name for this podcast idea.
But I'll go with saying, you know saying plainly what's on the tin first.
And that is my favorite piece of clothing.
People tend to have, you know, you buy clothes, you wear clothes, but every now and then you just fall in love with a piece of clothing.
Often you'll hold on to that piece of clothing or it'll be the piece of clothing you wear when you're at home or when you're sick.
It's like, I always wear these.
I love these. And people talk about these are my favourite shoes
or these are my favourite jeans,
my favourite old jeans that I wear at home.
And often there might be a story behind them.
I've had these since I went to XYZ.
I think there's something to be shared
and I enjoy hearing about people talking about
their favourite piece of clothing.
Yeah.
What's number one on your list at the moment?
Well, it's been with me for quite a while,
but my favourite piece of clothing is an old brown cardigan
that belonged to my dad.
And I took it off my dad around the time I was inspired
to dress a little bit like Kurt Cob cabane so this is going back a long
time right in the grunge era where you suddenly realize hang on my dad's much much older and i
realized he had some you know some of the things that he had he'd had so long they were kind of
cool retro rather than just daggy dad retro and one of them was his cardigans one of them was too
small but another one was pretty good and and um this brown piece of cardigan this brown cardigan you know i've
i've had since around you know that time and i've been wearing it and i love it and it's got holes
and it's even got a safety pin holding one sort of two parts of one elbow together and i've had
it for a long long time and i still wear it around the house in winter over a T-shirt.
And it's probably my favourite piece of clothing.
Nice.
The funny thing about it, though, is my...
Well, I kind of think I still look a bit like Kurt Cobain.
You know, I've got that sort of, oh, this is me wearing grunge clothes like Kurt Cobain, looking cool.
My kids have informed me, whenever I put it on, they tell me I look like Friday Barnes,
which is, you may not know who Friday Barnes is. I don't know what that is. Friday Barnes is a
character in a book. So, have a look. She's kind of- I'm googling it. Yeah. She's this-
Oh, so it's a girl, yeah? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. So, she is, all the pictures I see, she is wearing like a brown top.
Oh, this looks like a cool book.
This looks like Encyclopedia Brown.
It's a little bit like that.
That's right.
That's how the girls describe her.
But, yeah, they say you're wearing your Friday Barnes cardigan,
whereas I'd like to think of it still as my Kurt Cobain cardigan, you know,
and I'd wear it when I was working at home or just around at home these friday barnes books
look great i think friday barnes looks pretty cool by the way i think you should take that as
a compliment that you look like friday barnes she certainly dresses better than encyclopedia brown
so what about you man do you ever do you have a favorite piece of clothing i definitely you know
have a rotation and like you know this will be my favorite t-shirt for six months or something and then and obviously
i have like like most people i have like an underwear priority list of you go through your
favorite pairs of underwear and work your way down until you have to wash because you've used all
your good ones yeah yeah um but in terms of favorite pair favorite item of clothing i don't
have like a standout with some kind of sentimental thing like you have.
Did you have one when you were young?
Did you have, was there when, you know, your favourite T-shirt you put on or your good T-shirt or something like that, you know, when you were going somewhere special?
Again, you would just have the new thing that you thought were cool, like your Adidas Enforcer tracksuit pants or...
Yeah. thing that you thought were cool like your adidas enforcer tracksuit pants or i remember i remember
there was a period where it became quite cool to wear bicycle shorts like tight lycra bike shorts
and i remember at school we had a school casual day so i thought i'd go for the bike shorts yeah
it turns out only me and one other kid in the whole school went for that move and uh i kind of regret it still still if i was going to go back and do
my george lucas special edition of life i wouldn't wear bike shorts for that school casuals day
that's for sure get someone to paint some jeans over that footage is that right
to be fair i didn't get as hard a time as i should have i didn't get as hard a time as I should have. I didn't get as hard a time as I would have given myself.
That's before I knew you, wasn't it?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's right.
Thank goodness.
Lucky.
It doesn't matter what I wear, I feel quietly confident Tim would have worn something worse.
Well, there's a legendary piece of clothing that you've always deeply appreciated.
Well, yes.
I think the time has finally come on the Unmade podcast for us to tell people about this thing, Tim.
Well, have we not mentioned it before?
This legendary piece of clothing.
I don't think it has ever come up on the podcast.
I don't think it has.
And I think maybe it's time.
To mention the Fanta shorts.
Yes.
When do you first remember seeing the Fanta shorts?
Well, I think, so this is a pair of baggy shorts that Tim had in his teen years, I guess.
Yeah.
That were just branded with the soft drink Fanta.
So they just had the word Fanta on them and stylized blue and orange bubbles.
Like, you know, like it was just a look of Fanta.
I don't know what that purpose they were made for.
In fact, I don't know what purpose they were made for.
Why did someone make Fanta shorts?
It was a personal sponsorship deal.
I got a lot of Fanta stuff.
My agent organized it, and so i just needed
to wear them i i mum brought them back from a second hand shop believe it or not called a and
e okay anything and everything right and she yeah she and i thought they were cool because it was
like oh yeah like cool coke fanta you know is great. So I just started wearing them.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And it appears I wore them a lot because they became quite legendary.
Yeah, they became faded.
Didn't they once split when you were wearing them in some embarrassing way or something?
No, that was another pair of happy pants.
Oh, okay.
That's a story for another day.
That was coming down the slide at um i was wearing happy pants which if you if you're too young to know about happy pants just
google it and then you know look away quickly and um but we were at that what's that plague
is it monash playground what's the playground so the monash playground has all this steel
play equipment and it's it's kind of fun but on it was a wet day drizzly so the monash playground has all this steel play equipment and it's it's kind of
fun but on it was a wet day drizzly so the steel slides were dangerous and i'd come i came flying
down and they must have got caught on something and i flew off the other end and landed and rolled
and yeah there was a massive tear up the back and i I remember there was... You put on a bit of a private show, did you?
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah, that was a worry.
So those happy pants didn't last long.
The Fanta shorts wouldn't have let me down like that.
So anyway, at some point, obviously, like, you know,
obviously it was a running joke between us, these shorts.
And at some point, Tim retired them and retired them to a drawer and stopped wearing them.
But was it what birthday was it?
Was it your 18th or your 21st or something?
21st.
21st.
Yeah.
For Tim's 21st birthday, I conspired with his mother and obtained the Fanta shorts from their retirement drawer.
And I had them framed and I presented them to Tim at his 21st birthday party with a little,
like, I don't know, there was some message to go with them or something.
And they were like, where are those framed Fanta shorts now?
They're still hanging on.
No, they're not hanging on the wall anymore.
I do still have the Fanta shorts.
I do have them, but they are folded away.
I think, yeah, the framing and all.
Oh, they're not framed anymore?
No, no.
Do you know what?
That's good because I think now that I'm, like, older
and have a little bit more income,
I would like to get them reframed more professionally,
like box framed and, like, mounted with a proper gold plaque
and everything.
Can I have them?
Next time I come to Adelaide.
Yeah.
I'm going to take them to that old framing store.
I used to use my astronaut memorabilia and I'm going to get them.
I'm going to get them properly framed,
like in a way that will make you proud.
Like nice,
you know,
nice green,
officey green matte box.
What am I supposed to do with them then?
Like if you've got to have them on the wall.
Like, that's just...
Hang them in your office.
Oh, that's just ridiculous.
No, I wouldn't.
I'd make it classy.
Like, I'd make it classy.
So, like, there would be, like, just a small little plaque underneath that just says, like, the Fanta shorts.
So, people can...
So, it can be what you make it.
It could be ignored.
People ask you the story. You can tell it in the length you want.
It would be, I think it would be nice.
But it's not even like they're a small little thing that you put.
They're massive.
So they're going to take up a massive prominent place on the wall.
Yeah, but I think if they were nicely done,
because they're so faded and old,
they do look like there's something important.
Like they look like, you know,
they were thrown to you by Mick Jagger
at a Stones concert or something.
They look like they could have – they look like they've seen stuff, you know.
It doesn't look like you'd liked them.
It looks like they're important.
It's like the Shroud of Turin.
The only people that frame shorts are boxing champions.
So people are going to think they're boxing champions.
Yeah, exactly.
But that's it.
Some people will just ignore them.
People who ask, you get to tell a really touching story.
I think you're missing a trick here.
Because of how faded they are and, like, they have been patched up a bit, haven't they, by your mum and had patches sewn in them.
And they're, like, they're properly, properly worn.
The nearest thing I can think that they look like is the Shroud of Turin.
The nearest thing you can think of.
The Fanta shorts of Turin.
You know, they're held together.
Like you do them up.
I think they've got, yeah, you do them up and then they've got like a string.
You know how like shorts, you know, like the swimming and whatever have a string, but I lost the string.
Like shorts, you know, like swimming and whatever have a string.
But I lost the string.
And so for almost the entire time I've had them, that's been a shoelace, a white shoelace that holds them up.
Oh, yeah.
It's like it needs to be like that.
You know how the Shroud of Turin was there was once a fire and it got a bit burned. And I think the nuns threw it out a window and then they sewed like patches over some of the areas that got burned.
That's what the Fanta shorts are like.
They've even got, you know, signs of repair, signs of their story.
I think they like, I feel quite respectful of them now.
They move me.
Oh man, this is, okay, okay.
We'll see where this goes.
I feel like I want to give them to you,
even just because I want to get rid of them.
But you're just so in awe of them.
People are going to come around.
You just want to touch them and feel the power.
They're a sacred object in my life.
They are.
If you threw them away, I would be mad at you.
I wouldn't throw them away because of the nostalgia,
because they don't take up much room.
But if they were framed framed i would be tempted to
put them in a cupboard rather than you know what i mean like it's but anyway anyway anyway i'll see
i'll see what you do with them and i'll assess them at that time i can see it in my head it's
beautiful beautiful you do do a lot of this sort of stuff didn't you you got nasa hats and badges
and got things really tastefully framed yeah i'm into framing i've the the art of
framing things is something i really enjoy and i can just see how this one could be done i have
a regular framer down the road on unley road who does a really good job and i get certificates done
and i've got some lovely prints and and um some um movie posters and that are classic and hard
to find and they always come out looking really good it is very satisfying isn't it to do something like that all right so uh what was i can't remember
oh yeah favorite clothing yeah i had not remembered the fanta shorts when we started talking about this
in terms of clothing i just assumed you would i assumed you were teeing it up for a big fanta
shorts like memory lane no that was just. I thought that was your thinking.
No, no.
They did get a mighty round of applause at my 21st birthday
when you pulled them out in the speech.
Rightly so.
Your buddy framing certificates and movie posters
when you got the Fanta shorts folded up in a drawer.
It's a travesty.
Well, so they're obviously they're so your favorite piece of clothing belongs to me that's that's that's hilarious that seems to be the case i'll tell
you uh you've reminded me of one now yeah and it does still exist somewhere because i would not
have thrown this away but i don't know where it is.
But and also it's a good indication of how times have changed.
When I was in my early teens, still living in Adelaide, I became a fan of the Liverpool football club or soccer team, as I would have called it back then.
This is the English football team, Liverpool.
And this was at a time when before English football was all over TV and the media.
And the only game you could watch each year in Australia was the FA Cup final, which Liverpool made.
And I watched them win it.
And that's how I kind of bonded with Liverpool.
And you could watch a little bit of highlights, I think, on a Monday night, maybe.
So, I became really into Liverpool.
But it wasn't like as omnipresent as it is now.
And you could not buy like a Liverpool soccer shirt in Adelaide.
That would be impossible.
Now you get them everywhere.
So, my auntie at the time, my auntie Kath moved and lived in England for many, many years.
And she was coming home to visit the family.
And the request was put to her, while you're in England, can you buy Brady a Liverpool shirt, a soccer shirt?
And she brought it home and it was given to me in Adelaide.
And this was unbelievable to me.
I'd only ever seen what this looked like on TV.
Oh, wow. And to see the red shirt with the sponsor's name on it was when they were sponsored by Candy and stuff like that.
Like, it was like it had dropped into my life from another universe.
It was like holy to me.
And I wore it once and posed for some photos in the front yard,
kicking a soccer ball and then never wore it again.
And I hung it on a hanger and it hung like on my wall as like this special thing to look at like a poster.
I couldn't believe I had a real shirt that was the same as the one that was been worn by Ian Rush and John Barnes.
And it was incredible to me.
And then I got older and stuff and it became tiny because it was for the boy.
So, I couldn't, it got to a point where I could no longer wear it.
But this shirt, which is quite like a tacky design now by modern standards is still
really special to me and when you can buy them now retro like everything old is new again so
they sell these shirts again i'm tempted to buy one just because i still get like the little
flutter of excitement when i see that shirt and and it because it reminds me of the excitement
of getting one and i must have been you know one of the only people in australia that had one of
these things and do you you don't have the original or it's not
somewhere i do somewhere it yeah it will be folded up i'd never throw it away it will be folded up
in a box somewhere but i'm not sure where it is i've been gradually migrating my hoarded stuff
back to england but i i can't think if i've i've come across that one so it's either at my mum or dad's house
in a box somewhere or unless it's gone
over here and I've, I don't know, I haven't seen
it for many years but I've still
but it still exists, hopefully
and that
it's something I only ever wore once in my life
I only wore it one day and then
the rest of the time it just became like a
decorative piece that, because I didn't want to
sully it in any way.
It was like, yeah, it's a sign of things to come with me, wasn't it?
You know how I'm a bit of a memorialiser of objects.
But it is a funny it's a funny paradox that your favourite clothing, the more you wear it, the closer it is to you not having it anymore.
You know, so there's always that tension.
These are my good sneakers.
But if I wear them, then I'll get creased and dirty and then they won't be the good sneakers and all that yeah there is a part of me now that appreciates
the wear and tear of things like your fanta shorts they're way more special because of all the
damage and how how worn in they are but another part of me does think like to preserve things for
example i went out for dinner the other night with my mate and his son. They're Australian and his son had this Australian cricket hat
that's been autographed by loads of players,
like after games or going on the boundary.
He's got all these famous Australian cricketers to sign it
in like a black marker.
So it's covered in signatures of, you know,
great famous cricketers and that.
And he was just wearing it.
He was wearing it out.
We were at a restaurant and we were going out.
And I was saying, I can't believe you wear that.
Like, all your signatures will fade or it could rain or, like, it could get dirty.
Like, that's a hat with so many amazing signatures on it.
That should be, like, framed like a museum piece.
And he's, like, a kid.
And he's like, nah, I want to wear it.
It's cool.
Look at it.
All these famous people have signed it.
Yeah, that's cool.
All the people see it, you know.
You've got to live your life.
You've got to live your clothes and that.
That's great. Yeah, I like like that good on him for doing that otherwise things become all about their value you know you're something like things getting autographed and
what's it worth and all that'll be worth something and it's like no you gotta wear it and enjoy it
and have the joy of it and yeah you know that's great i am like that with watches i know some
people get watches and just put them in a case as collector's items or keep them in their original box.
But I do like wearing my watch.
I've got a moon watch, an Amiga moon watch, which is the same as the one they wore on the moon.
And I wear that all the time and everywhere.
And I like now that it's been places.
It's been to Antarctica.
It's been to Mount Everest.
It's been in the room where the moon rocks are stored in Houston.
Like this watch has had adventures with me.
And to me, it becomes more valuable to me for that reason.
There we go.
So the favorite clothing.
And I think it would be interesting to have people come on and talk about what,
you know, things that may,
it either could be a particular type of clothing that they always buy over and
over and over again.
You know, I like this particular size brand of this,
and I always get these, or it could be.
And I think probably more interestingly,
something that they've held on to that they treasure and they, you know, wear.
All right.
Well, I reckon we should pull stumps now, Tim.
Yeah, nice work.
Can I encourage people, if you want to talk about what you would like to name your band,
go and tell us in the subreddit, in the Unmade Podcast subreddit.
And likewise, if you've got a favourite article of clothing you want to tell us about maybe show us a picture of it go to the
subreddit or you can you can get in touch with us on twitter or drop us an email all those things
but we really love hearing from everyone and you know if it's really good we might bring it up in
a future episode you never know you never know i might start a uh i might start like a a crowdfunding thing to get the fanta shorts especially specially
framed although tim's made it pretty clear he's not going to put it in his office which is a bit
disappointing but only because there's that special spot over the fireplace at home that's
which is i for them.
I feel like I obviously feel like the Fanta shorts are more special than you.
I would have thought it might go the other way.
I've made a promise to my daughters that I would incorporate a word each
in this episode that they said.
Right.
And they both came up with a word,
and I've not found any place to mention either of them in this episode.
You can make them just the last two words of the episode.
Shabangabang and salami.