The Unmade Podcast - 31: Unmade by Berkowitz

Episode Date: August 25, 2019

Tim and Brady read reviews, discuss the latest Sofa Shop news, Things that 'I'm Over', and re-branding. Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to https://www.hover.com/Unmade - promo code UNMADE at checkout - or you can use timhein.ninja - http://www.timhein.ninja Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/cv6ccu USEFUL LINKS Reviews on our Apple page - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-unmade-podcast/id1274023400 Sofa Shop by Berkowitz - http://sofashop.net.au Berkowitz Furniture - https://berkowitz.com.au Tutankhamun - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutankhamun A Crash Cover - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_cover Queen - Tim is over them - http://www.queenonline.com Seinfeld on Amazon Prime - https://amzn.to/341ROpp Australian Football League - https://www.afl.com.au An episode of Sale of the Century - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSy_JSq9cg Jo Bailey/Silvagni - who does promo work for Berkowitz Furniture - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_Silvagni Unmade Watch downloadable certificate for Patreon supporters - https://www.patreon.com/posts/29428058

so tim last time we asked people to write reviews and i promised i'd read some out we talk about them if they were good yeah well there was a car i've been monitoring a little bit but i actually haven't looked for about a week oh i've got some here i was going to read some for you i've printed some out yeah and i've actually had them. They're on my mantelpiece. These are people from the Brady camp, no doubt. Yeah, I've been sending them to all my friends and having them done in gold leaf and stuff. There's presents, like birthday presents for friends, like just random people I know.

It's their birthday. I'm giving them framed reviews of Unmade Podcast. Compliments yourself. You'd think they'd go down better, but people are surprisingly dismissive of them. Oh, right. Okay. Okay. Is the standard not up to what we thought?

Like, is the poetic standard not there? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe people just want things for their birthday other than reviews of the Unmade Podcast. Shall I read some for you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's at the... All right.

Let's have a look here. Kiki Turnip. Review is headlined, it's not... All right, let's have a look here. Kiki Turnip review is headlined, it's not just a podcast, it's a lifestyle. I won't read the whole things, but in part, Kiki said, my personal favourite episodes have to be when the podcasts become realised. For example, the Tommy Ball episodes. I even mentioned Tommy Ball in one of my English language GCSE exams.

Wow. That's nice, isn't it? Yeah. I wonder what possible context there would have been where that was appropriate to mention Tommy Ball. I don't know. And because it's an exam, I don't know if we can get it back to find out exactly what was written. No.

Kiki, if you can get the exam back, we want to know what you wrote in the exam, how this came about. Kiki concludes, an overall brilliant podcast in which two charismatic Australians talk about stuff with a vague structure. I think that's a bit of a backhanded bit at the end there. It's the first time you've been described as an Australian. Or charismatic for that matter. That's right. Yeah, but yeah. But I would enjoy them even more if they were more regular or longer episodes

with more podcast ideas within. Oh, okay. Why would someone enjoy them more if they were more regular? Well, and longer. So here's another review from a UK math student describing the podcast as the spiritual successor to cereal. Okay. This podcast is the spiritual successor of cereal if you like intrigue

suspense mystery and adelaide don't do a thing until you listen to this podcast i wish it was the financial successor to cereal that would be yeah they would Then we'd do more of them. That's right. It is true. If people are fans of Adelaide around the world, they're getting a fair serving. They can certainly touch base. They are, they are.

I have to say, the sofa shop is a theme within many of these reviews, but I'm not reading the entire reviews because that would be indulgent even for us. But here's one from td daniel now this was very long and i'm not going to read the first half of it because that kind of sets it up the headline of the review is ironic subversion of modern maladies and td goes into some detail about how our 21st century society has become obsessed with productivity and people who are incredibly productive like Elon Musk. And then in part, the review says, productivity has become the idol of our world and we must all serve it or perish. Here is where Harron and Hine hit back. No, they say, we will not become slaves to this destructive mindset. Through their conversation,

We will not become slaves to this destructive mindset. Through their conversation, saturated with the irony of being unable to complete all that they plan, they show the emptiness of that way of thinking. They call us back to a simpler way of life when ideas could be bandied about with no pressure to perform or complete them. Laughing with old friends from school days, eating honey prawns and feeling no need to prove ourselves. In this unassuming podcast lies the key to solving one of the great anxieties of modern life.

How to be satisfied with simplicity and free oneself from the demand to be always on and performing. Doctors Harron and Hine have shown themselves to be astutely aware of the maladies plaguing our society. And I look forward to hearing more of their insightful remedies. Here's to friendship and simplicity. The best ideas of them all. Wow. I wasn't thinking of any of that stuff when we came up with the Unmade podcast. But now I feel like a genius.

We're desperately trying to be productive. And we've ended up being bastions of unproductivity. Makes us sound like we're existentialists in a French cafe, you know, just sort of musing all day long. Or at the very least, like, what's his name? Ethan Hawke's character in Reality Bites. We're just like these cool dudes who... That's right. We're slackers, but we're doing it with meaning.

Yeah, that's right. Remember he had on his answering machine, back when we had answering machines, welcome to the winter of our discontent. He was like Dylan on steroids, wasn't he? He was. He was like Dylan had just gone alternative. Anyway, that's certainly imbuing our podcast with much more significance and meaning than we ever intended.

But that's how art works. People read into art what they want to see, not necessarily what the artist intended. And thank goodness for that, because otherwise there wouldn't be much to this, would there? Now here's Hafahana, who calls our podcast the essential Tommy Ball fans companion. Just while I read this, put yourself into the mindset of someone who's just clicked on the Unmade podcast and is deciding whether or not they want to listen to it. Yeah. Hafa Hanna says, whether a longtime lover of Tommy Ball or a recent devotee wanting to learn more,

this is the podcast for you. Get closer to the game than ever before with in-depth analysis, discussion and debate. The show features a wide variety of Tommy Ball journalists, current players and retired greats. This is a must listen for old Tommy Ball fans. Subscribe now. What is this Tommy Ball?

There is a second paragraph that starts with seriously, though, and says nice things about the actual podcast. But by that point, I think we've probably lost any potential, Lister. Yeah, that's right. I do love people. I love how people love Tommy Ball and they really run with it. And I get a few tweets from people who just have a little portion of commentary from Tommy Ball, and I always read them and enjoy them.

They'll just make up bits of play from Tommy Ball. And I always, I read them and enjoy them. They are, they'll just make up bits of play from last weekend's game or something. And it's very funny. I do like it. Yeah. So there's a really long one here from someone called Flaming Yeti. And I won't read all of it.

I do like this bit because it sort of, it puts you in your place. Have a listen to this. The Unmade podcast features two charismatic co-hosts, former journalist turned internet cinematographer Brady Haran and local Australian resident Tim Hine, both of which arrive at their microphones every few weeks to deliver a dosage of heart-stoppingly delectable podcast content.

Haran and Hine will continuously melt your brain and leave you in an insurmountable stupor as your ears lap up the stupendous slurry of ideas that the two gents dish out each episode i mean that's nice isn't it well it's nice i've been i've never been called a resident before that's right i'm a cinematographer I barely know how to focus my camera but I'm a cinematographer and you're just like a resident of a country you're definitely the person who in a movie would get shot quite early in the movie

you're cannon fodder who didn't even get the role as companion of the main character but actually ended up as a you know when the credits rolled and you're looking at all the characters or your imdb like entry it just says tim hein australian resident yeah that's right yeah i love that line you know when a character says you know i know i'm living the first line of my obituary right now, or probably these days they'd say, I'm living the first line of my Wikipedia entry right now. And I feel that every day, Australian resident, Tim Hyde. All right.

That's your Tinder profile. I'm a resident of Australia. Resident. It's more than you could say, man. Yeah, It's true Yeah Georges101 says This podcast will change your life

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We're talking stories that will tug at your heartstrings, bring joy to your soul and question what it means to be human. This is a podcast so great that it should be taught in schools. The shining example of a podcast done right. Oh, wow. I can't disagree with a word of that. Particularly the big, I mean, I do think when it talks about decades, we are certainly better than many of the podcasts

cast that were coming out several decades ago and charles dickens overrated oh well he was a little bit he would have been good in the podcast era really because he used to write his stories and present them periodically through the um newspaper didn't he so true that's true he liked his chapters and things yeah still maybe no harren and hein that's for sure who is someone who has died that you wish they were still alive just for their podcast who's someone who'd love to hear a podcast by any historical figure if they had a podcast that you could listen to oh that's a really good uh question i i probably would have to go back to well it's funny i would go back to for me like the apostle paul like writers from the bible or something well obviously obviously jesus would be

the the biggest one it'd be good we but we actually do have the bible and there's quite a lot in it you know what i mean like so it's um it you you would also be tempted to go for someone perhaps whose work is really brief like i think about i often think about if i could hear another album from someone i'd think about jeff buckley because he died so young or i'd love to know what kurt cabane was writing now or something like that which is getting off topic but in terms of someone who would do a podcast where you'd really hear the expense of their thinking i'm trying to think of someone who didn't leave us with very much and yet was significant.

Do you have anyone in mind? Well, Tootin Carmen died very young. So, you know. Oh, that's right. He was only a teenager, so he never got to his prime. So, you know, that'd be pretty good. But what's he going to talk about? Well, I don't know.

Are you saying you wouldn't listen if I found some, if they found some podcast recording in his tomb in some hidden little side hatch. Well, what I'm saying is... I don't care what some teenager's got to say. I'm not listening to an audio recording of Tootin' Carmen. I guess the reason we find Tootin' Carmen exciting is because we found his cave, his tomb rather, and all the cool stuff in it but of course if he continued to live and have a podcast and so forth i wouldn't know who who he was he would be i guess we still would have he would still have had to keep the recording somewhere with the hard drive wouldn't he

and um he may still have reached prominence but yeah this beautiful golden usb stick with lovely jewels attached to it and everything that's right the i would be hard to go past Mark Twain, isn't it? Because he was so quotable. Oh, right, yeah. Everyone just loves Mark Twain quotes. So you imagine he was quite witty. So I imagine he'd have a good podcast. You get the feeling Oscar Wilde would be similarly.

I think Stephen Fry would be quite good at podcasting. Ricky Gervais, he should think about doing a podcast. He'd be good. Yeah. A podcast on Noah's Ark would have been good, wouldn't it? Well, it would just be Noah and his sons and daughters and wife talking. Yeah, but they'd be all that cool noise, background noise. And each episode could be about a different pair of animals. Today, we're doing the lions. There's two of them here. Yep.

But they wouldn't be able to do any of the David Attenborough-like descriptions because it would just be like, well, there they are, standing in their stall where we left them. No pen. No room to move. You wouldn't get much about their like yeah natural natural natural kind of behavior but i still think it would be interesting like you know i have to do some uh more feedback because um a bit of catch-up wow we're turning into like a proper grown-up podcast now you're not just dropping in your daughter's two words right at the start, are you, just to get them over and done with? No, but, and air conditioner, but I was going to.

No, but let me just adjust the air conditioner. I was at a friend's house today, actually, where my daughter learns piano. And they very excitedly directed me into their lounge room and asked me what was new and uh i didn't pick it but then they pointed at the couch and bouncing up and down told me they'd been to the sofa shop the sofa shop is your only stop and come back with sofa so oh well i went over and touched it. It was precious. What's going on with the sofa shop?

Because they're about to close down. Did we fall for the actual oldest trick in the book of believing that a sofa shop was closing down when it wasn't? I thought only rug stores did that. Nah, sofa shop. Do you know what? I was at a train station the other day and we stopped and we got delayed for like 10 minutes. And I looked out the window to the right and there was a shop called The Sofa Shop. Whoa.

And I took like 19 pictures of it on my phone. Like the people I was with thought I was crazy. I said, sorry, I need to take 19 pictures of that shop because it's called The Sofa Shop. So, Sofa Shop franchise. Anyway, getting back to my point. What's going on with the actual sofa shop so sofa shop franchise anyway getting back to my getting back to my point getting what's going on with the actual sofa shop is it closing down or not well did we get tricked what happened was or see we started talking about it and they looked into it they actually ordered there's a couple of months ago and it was delivered recently but then they went down to buy a cushion

they went back just the other day and the whole place is empty. Totally empty. No. But when we looked it up online it indicates that it's actually been taken over by the Berkowitz's. Should I know who they are? No. Sounds like a made up name to me. But anyway, it says here Berkowitz Furniture is a family run business that's expanding its operations to adelaide after five generations of success in the industry so they've actually bought out the sofa shop name and are going to be opening what's called the sofa shop by berkowitz furniture so there you go they've decided not to come to Adelaide with the name Berkowitz Furniture,

even though that's been successful for five generations. Yeah, because, I mean, in Adelaide, the sofa shop just unlocks doors, doesn't it? Like if you're queuing at a nightclub and the bouncers don't let you in, you just have to say, oh, you know, I work at the sofa shop. And it's like, oh, sorry, go on in. And this is before we took it global. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Yeah, we look forward to seeing you on our opening date on August the 18th. Hang on, what's the date today? It's August the 18th. What? It's today? Yes. It literally says that on their website. Wow.

So they're opening. What, Tim? Open today. Tim, go, go, go. We can record this another day. Got to go. I'm out. That's right.

Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. I don't think FaceTime does the beeps, man. So are they restocking the old place? Is it the same address? It does say the Mile End Homemaker Centre, but it doesn't actually say. They're opening today. New inquiries, existing orders. They don't have an address, which means they...

Oh, see, these guys, the Berkowitz's, I don't think they know the sofa business. Rule number one in the sofa business is, like, have a shop with an address. You can't just be a name. If you're going to have... Look, if you've got a business and it's called the sofa shop, there are two things you have to have. Sofas and a shop. And they haven't got a shop. This is...

Yeah. I think it's at the same location. It's got the Mile End Homemaker Centre. So that's back at the same location. It's got the Mile End Homemaker Centre. So that's back at the same place. This would have never happened under the previous management. Under previous management, they always had sofas. They did. They always had a shop.

Yep. Yep. Yep. They knew what they were doing. Well, they must have gone... My friends must have gone before it was stocked with Berkowitz furniture. I wonder if Berkowitz sofas are as good as sofa shop sofas. You'd hope so.

You wouldn't think they're just trading on the name. But what are they going to do about the tune, the theme tune? Well, that's hardly going to fit in, is it? Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop by Berkowitz. No. It doesn't sound as good, does it? It doesn't sound as good. No. No. Not much rhymes with Berkowitz. No. It doesn't sound as good, does it? It doesn't sound as good. No.

No. Not much rhymes with Berkowitz. They've not thought this through. We have a softened design for you. Choose your fabric, match your curtains to. Choose your fabric, match your curtains to by Berkowitz. Berkowitz. Interesting.

I'll have to go down. I'll have to have a look. Definitely. First thing tomorrow. First thing tomorrow. Berkowitz. Interesting. I'll have to go down. I'll have to have a look. Definitely. First thing tomorrow. First thing tomorrow. First thing tomorrow. Well, anyway, so they were, look, their sofa looked, I mean, it looked good. And I think this is, they were lucky.

Probably one of the last ones under the old regime, the true sofa shop regime. And- Did they ask you to sign it for them? No. But I reckon if they put that on like on ebay now i mean that sofa will be worth a fortune in a few years time yeah definitely definitely smithsonian i know maybe that's what they should turn the sofa shop like that old building that they've emptied out into a sofa shop museum where people bring their old sofas that they bought from the sofa shop and they just restock it.

People walk in going, oh, that's nice. Can I buy that? No, this is a museum now. You can't buy that. It was a bit like a museum last time I went in, to be honest. I went to a stamp and postcard fair yesterday because I just love going to places where there are stamps and postcards. And I was the youngest person there by 40 years.

Oh, yeah. Oh, I love it. I love it. You just sit down at a chair and go through like a box of postcards. Not only can you look at the cool pictures on them, they've all got messages on the back you can read from, you know, Doris who's on a holiday in Minehead writing back to Jim, making sure he paints the gate, things like that.

Oh, that's gold. I love that. I love those old postcards. Postcards go back a fair way too. How early were they going? I don't know. The ones I bought yesterday, because I bought quite a few, old postcards postcards go back a fair way too how early were they going i don't know the ones i was the ones i bought yesterday because i bought quite a few were mostly 1940s and 1950s oh that's

fantastic it's gorgeous isn't it and the copper plate handwriting i imagine is quite nice too well it's impossible to read the handwriting most of the time because i don't know what they were doing back in those days but their handwriting was impossible to read, all that fancy cursive. Yeah, that's cool. Do you collect stamps as well, though? I haven't known that about you. No, I don't really get into the stamps. You know, I like crash mail, like envelopes that were on planes that crashed.

No, what is crash mail? Oh, I have spoken about it before in other places, but it's like basically if a plane crashes or a boat sinks and it's carrying mail and sometimes they'll salvage the mail and still deliver it. But it might be a bit singed or damaged. And obviously it's late. So they put a stamp on it saying this was in a plane crash. Sometimes the details of the crash. That's fascinating.

Yeah. People will like then, you know, read that letter and stuff. But that envelope then becomes like a collectible thing. And collectors quite like getting their hands on them. So I've got a little drawer with some crash mail in it from different plane crashes. Some of the envelopes are like literally got burn marks on them, like singed.

Oh, wow. They didn't have any good crash mail at the fair yesterday. So it's a category of a collector item. You would go and say, do you have any crash mail? Yeah, sometimes they'll have a little box on the side, I hear some crash mail.'s quite it's usually quite expensive the thing i was looking at yesterday that i quite enjoyed though was mail that they went through a phase where they thought they were going to use rockets to deliver mail when rockets were like the next big thing

and they'd like put a mail in a rocket and launch it you know from a to b and then salvage the rocket and get the mail out so you can get get rocket mail, mail that was sent in rockets, catapult mail, mail that's been catapulted, balloon mail. There's all sorts of cool mail you can collect. Oh, wow. That's incredible. That's fascinating. That's amazing.

It should be a podcast. It should be. So have you got any podcast ideas? Look, I do, and it's a slight hesitation about this because it's not positive, but it is passionate. Look, the podcast is called I'm Over It. I'm Over It. Yeah.

And it's an exploration with different guests of the thing that they are over. Something's been part of life for a while and they're like, right, that's it. I've had enough. I'm sick of it. Either get rid of it or I'm not listening anymore or I'm not watching. I'm over it. Yeah.

The first thing you can ask me is, you know, well, do you have an example of something? And I say I have to and I've been thinking this for the last few months and carrying it. And I think I did a tweet about this at some stage because i just was you know feeling it because over it i was oh man i was over it well said yes and that's queen not the queen queen i feel a queen we're freaked peak queen. We're freaked. Peak queen. Like- Right. This is the band Queen. And I've never disliked Queen.

They're just kind of there, you know, like the Beatles, they're in the air. And you listen to them, they're often- And I have to say, I really admire some of it. They are an admirable band artistically. They are the only band. What's your favourite Queen song? What's the best Queen song? The best Queen song?

Oh, I don't know. Yes, I don't. Well, I'm over it, man. Why would I want to engage in a conversation? Why are you over it? Just because of all the saturation caused by the movie that came out? Well, it's even before then. Like it's just been too much for too long.

Like the music was around and you've heard all the songs and they're here forever. And then suddenly there was the Wayne's World movie, you know what I mean, and the whole with Bohemian Rhapsody. Oh, that was funny. That was great. You're sort of exposed to it again. That's good.

And time goes on. There's another Greatest Hits and there's a round of ads that. Oh, that was funny. That was great. You're sort of exposed to it again. That's good. And time goes on. There's another Greatest Hits and there's a round of ads that come out for that as well. And then there's the stage show. And I remember you and I went to the stage show. You took me, I think, in London. I don't know, 10 or 12 years ago. Did I go to you with that? Oh, yeah.

What was it called? We Will Rock You, which was a lot of fun. And I love Ben Elton. It was a bit crap. Well, it was not artistically great. It was just fun. It was like a karaoke night, really. It was, you know, yeah.

It was a bit crap in hindsight. But it was enjoyable on the night, wasn't it? Because the songs are so good. Well, I mean, it was good for you to get to go out with me that was probably a big night for you and stuff but for me it was just like you know well you've you'd seen it before i think and you told me how great it was and you dragged me along and i said no i said i'm over it and you said tim you can't you've got to come. I love it. And I think it was your fourth or fifth night there or something. Having seen some good shows, that was not a good one.

Of course it wasn't a good show. I love that you're telling me how you're over Queen and you're the one, like, arguing how great the show was. And I'm like, now you're saying, Queen, it was awesome. What are you talking about? I wasn't saying it. I'm not saying it was awesome. It was so entertaining.

Queen's great. I'm suddenly back into them. I'm back into it. I've processed it. Another thing that resurfaced Queen before this latest movie was the Olympics. For some reason, they decided to make, you know, Queen part of the Olympic opening ceremony and stuff as well. You know, they had, what's his name?

Brian May doing a big guitar solo and stuff. That's right. I'd forgotten about that. Yeah, yeah. They also did it for the Queen's Jubilee as well, didn't they? He was playing guitar on top of Buckingham Palace, maybe a Diamond Jubilee or something. Why are Queens so...

It must just be that they were, like, the people who most liked Queen right now are at the point where they're the most influential people and like are setting the agenda for opening ceremonies and who gets to play on top of Buckingham Palace and things. We're just in that period now where we're going through the nostalgia period. They're the prime ministers and mayors and they're using. Danny Boyles of the world. Well, that's it. i've had enough and then this latest movie it's like all over again it's like we've reached peak did you see the movie

i saw half the movie and i turned it off on itunes at home i just went i don't know i haven't seen it yet i love a good i mean i love rockumentaries like i love rock documentaries every now and then i like a what do you call it it's like a biographical film of a rock band, although they're all- Yeah, biopic. Biopic, yeah. They're all crap. They're all crap. They've all got bad facial hair, bad costumes.

They're all cliche driven. There's always that scene in the studio where the guy gets angry and throws something. You know, do another take. No, you do another take. Vroom. Then walks out. The audio engineer looks at each other. something you know do another take no you do another take boom then walks out the audio

engineer looks at each other you know it's just they're the same scenes over and over and over again and the only ones that are any good are the ones that radically depart from it like 24-hour party people or something like that which kind of deconstructs the whole thing which is a really great right biopic but the there it was just awful so i just turned it off yeah i'm just my wife quite liked it she said it was quite good i haven't seen it yet she thought it was all right and i should give it a go it won the oscar didn't that well the main i've forgotten his name he won it for um rami malek or something yeah yeah playing freddie mercury he looked quite a bit like freddie mercury but i don't think it's particularly good acting.

I don't know. I was not. I was just. Yeah. Anyway, I'm over it. I'm over Queen. I admire them. I don't think I dislike it.

I'm just saying that's enough. Enough. Enough. Saturation. That's right. What are you over? Well, you did ask me to think about things that I'm over an hour or so ago. So I have been thinking about it.

I'll tell you one. I'll tell you one, an obvious one to start with. And we do joke about it on the podcast a lot. But that is Seinfeld. And I know we joke that, like I always joke that it's still Australian, still really love Seinfeld. And I know we joke that, like, I always joke that it's still, Australians still really love Seinfeld. But of all, like, old TV shows that I used to like a lot in the day, if I catch an old episode of most of them, I still think, yeah, I have, like, fond memories for it and think, yeah, that's pretty good. If I kept, like, you know, an old episode of Friends, I'm up for any day of the week.

You know, I could even watch an old episode of MASH or Cheers and still, like, have nostalgia for it, even though it's very dated. But there's something about Seinfeld that just... Seinfeld has, like, a dark heart that hasn't aged well. And there's something about Seinfeld that I don't... That I find very, very unlikable as a TV show. And if I catch an old episode of it, I think, nah, I'm over this. There was a time when I thought this was great and now I don't and I don't even want to see it. I think it's a show that has a mean, evil streak to it and the people are bad and I don't tolerate that the way I used to. I don't like Seinfeld. I'm totally over it. And there was a time when I loved it and couldn't

wait for it. They do mock that part of it about being selfish. That is part of the premise of the show, that they disregard anyone who doesn't conform exactly to their life and lifestyle. And the whole final episode's about that because they mock someone instead of helping them and go to jail. So, but it does, you're right, mate, it does revel in that a little bit. It does nothing for me. It does nothing for me. And now that the humour's not funny anymore either, it's got nothing going for it.

I do still find it funny and I find Jerry Seinfeld funny, but I can see what you mean. I've got more. What else are you over? I am over Facebook. Very much so. Like, obviously facebook is evil and everyone hates facebook but they kind of would still use it because you know even though it's cool to say facebook's evil people still wanted to use it i'm just so disinclined to use facebook now like even if facebook wasn't evil and they did protect

your data and all the other crap wasn't going on with, you know, abusive news and stuff like that. Even if Facebook was just a social networking thing, I would still be over it. So you're not over it for ethical reasons. You're over it for what? I'm even over it for the best parts of it or the most useful parts of it. I'm also with you there. Probably not as passionately because it's a, I don't know, a means of, I find it handy and I find it interesting in terms of people

that I remain in contact with and communicate with and share ideas with, but I know what you mean as well. See, I'm even over that side of it. Well, put it another way. I like Twitter. Twitter's my favourite and I go looking and I learn from Twitter and I find it interesting and I find it witty and fun. Facebook I don't enjoy. I'm not over Twitter. Yeah, I'm not over Twitter. That's fine.

I'm over Facebook. Because why do I care about staying in touch with people that I would have no contact with if it wasn't for Facebook? Why do I care that someone I haven't spoken to for sometimes literally over 20 years is sorry that my dog died? That's true. Like what? Okay. Thank you.

Oh, I'm glad that you liked my picture from my holiday to India. Person who I went to school with and haven't seen since 1989. But you shared it with them. You said, here's my picture from India. Well, there are one or two people. Yeah, you're right. I'm overdoing that too but but i wasn't but i wasn't sharing it i wasn't meaning to share it with that person you've and i am doing more and more to try and color away all these people who i feel like shouldn't be on my facebook the thing is most of them i've muted i didn't unfriend them

because i didn't want to create the scene of like you know boycotting someone but i've muted them out of existence so like my facebook feed is like you know three people but that but i'm friends with i don't know 100 200 or something so these people who are posting their pictures and comments and stuff who think they're friends with me and think i'm seeing their stuff i'm not well now. Well, if they're listening to our podcast. Don't take it to heart, man. Don't take it to heart. I'll still do the podcast with you. That's right. I appreciate that, man. They're probably over our podcast, so they're not listening to it either. We're still making it, but Brady's out there telling me about stuff. I'm not listening. Brady's out there telling me about stuff I'm not listening So I'm over and have been over for a long time

Video games Oh yeah Yeah Yeah I never really got into video games But I No you never really did very much But I did a bit

But I'm definitely over that Do you have a console in your house? No No Do you? a console in your house? No. No. Do you? No, no. I almost thought about buying a, well, I didn't almost think, I did think, but almost bought a, they've got one of those retro Atari ones now. And I thought they might be fun with the kids, but I didn't.

Yeah. The thing is with those old video games, I have like fallen for that sort of stuff before and bought old like, you know, video games. Is the idea of it is better than the reality of it. And when you'd play it, you get pretty bored pretty quick. Oh, really? Yeah, very quick. A little blue box moving around. It's like a 20 minute.

It's a 20 minute nostalgia fix. And then you're stuck with this huge thing. I could probably do it on an app and then just delete it again. Yeah, you can play all those old Atari games on websites. I sometimes do that. huge thing like i'll probably i could probably do it on an app and then just delete it again yeah you can play all those old atari games on websites i sometimes do that i've got these like websites that play them and used to go in there for free and play you know old atari basketball and stuff pac-man and space invaders and yeah yeah yeah i am over australian rules football man and i think that is a bit of a different case.

Obviously, it's the case because I moved away from Australia. But like the importance that all my friends, yourself included, but some of my other friends even more, place on Australian rules football and like how important it is to them seems ridiculous now. And I completely understand that if I was still living in Australia, I would be like that. And it really is just a distance thing. But Australian rules football, it seems comical how important all my friends take Australian rules football now. Of course, it's not important, but it's an enjoyable thing.

But you do feel it with cricket as well. You've been to the Ashes the last couple of days and it's equally meaningless at a meta level but no that cricket's more important than football it's more important i would it probably is in terms of it involves nations and relationships and history in a certain way but the actual game itself is in a sense you know what i mean it's yeah of course you're not arguing that it's life and death but like the first year or two that i was out of Australia, you know, I still thought I still would, you know, oh, how are the crows doing? Who made the finals?

Who's who? Now it's like, you know, when like your mum tells you some boring story about someone at her local knitting club or something, and she's just telling you all these names of people that you don't know. Oh, and then Joan said that she was going to bake a cake. And you're like, I don't even know who Joan is. Why do I care if she's baking a cake? It's like that now when my friend will tell me, oh, can you believe that Richmond just

sold Billy Bloggs to Hawthorne or something? And they're talking about these people. And I'll say, oh, sorry, I don't know who Billy Bloggs is. And like my friend's jaw will drop and say, he's a future Hall of Famer. He's won three premierships he won the brown low like how can you not know and i'm like all these things mean nothing this is not important this is joan baking a cake what about what about what about soccer or you know like english football you follow liverpool with great passion yeah i do i do know what you mean by afl and there

is this is australian rules football in that it's it is so large now it is a bit ridiculous how large it is and how many shows and i am indifferent to anything that's mostly going on i guess apart from my team and a little bit beyond that you just sort of in a sense you could live in it and um sometimes it feels in australia like you do no that's what's funny though it's not large it's not large it's really really small well that's what's funny about it that everyone in australia thinks it's so big no no no it's not big it's in terms of the the ability of it to fill your time um is. It's obviously not like US elections and politics and the Brexit big. It's just a very small little league.

But yeah, you take my point. Anyway. Anyway, I know it's because I'm far away and I'd still be really into it if I was there. What else am I over? I asked my wife what she was over. She's over the Kindle. She went through a phase where she thought the Kindle was the best thing since sliced bread. Yeah.

And now she realises that was a mistake and she likes old-fashioned books. She's totally over the Kindle as a thing. I'm with her there too. I never got into that. I can't look at another screen. I'm sick. I'm over screens. That's what I'm over.

The Kindle feels like another screen. I like paper. What about you? Well, I asked my wife as well. The Kindle feels like another screen. I like paper. What about you? Well, I asked my wife as well. She said she was over reality television, but she has never been into reality television. She's just over it coming up on ads and there being news stories about judges on shows that involve renovations and chefs

and you know what I mean? Yes. All that kind of stuff. That is big everywhere but i especially noticed that in australian culture when i'm back in oz or anything australian hits me how there's this like like even even by modern standards internationally and don't get me wrong like i really like love ireland and there's loads of reality shows in the uk but in australia they seem different and they seem more prime time like

like like the biggest reality the reality show that once every year takes over the uk in many ways is love island and all the newspapers will get into it and all the people in it will become stories but it's still over on itv2 on a fringe channel and it's on quite late at night and like you sort of have to seek it out a bit it's not forced upon you whereas in australia those shows like you know all these cooking ones and these ones about houses and and these bachelor type matchmaking ones they seem to be really on all the main channels and in the really the hour, like they're really hard to avoid. Yes, that's right. That's right.

They are there. And you go shopping and on the magazines are all the same faces with food and performance. I find it bizarre. I honestly find it bizarre. But it sounds a bit aloof and pretentious, but it is. It's just ridiculous. Today I was reading in a magazine, the weekend broadsheet magazine,

the Weekend Australian. I'm reading it. It's got, you know, 50 best restaurants in Australia. So I was looking up Adelaide going, oh, what's a new restaurant that's considered a good one to check out or so forth? And then it talks about a restaurant somewhere that it's like former contestant on MasterChef. And I'm like, well, that's, you know what I mean?

Like it's like. Yeah. Like it's a Michelin star. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's like, why the heck would that make any difference to me? Going to the restaurant or not? Yeah. I've got, I've got, I've got one that's a total, we'll come across, well, I guess it kind of is a humble brag, but it's not really my intent, but it will sound really humble braggy, but it is something I'm definitely, that I used to love and that I'm now totally over. And that is flying. Oh, really?

Yeah. You do a lot of flying. I still like traveling and going to interesting, cool places. You know, I still really love that I get to do that and I'm very grateful for it. But the actual act of flying, going to airports and going on planes used to be something that filled me with so much excitement and anticipation. Because I didn't fly in a plane until I was quite old. So, you know, it was always something that had a real romance to me. And now, any time I have to book a flight, like, my heart sinks.

And any time I have to go to the airport and get on a plane, it's like, oh, no. I would give anything to not have to do this part of my work i don't particularly enjoy flying but i know exactly what you mean and i have really enjoyed it on occasion but the i was thinking the other day i was picking my mum up from the airport and i was thinking airports again have a really strange feeling about them maybe because people are tense or they're waiting, but they feel it feels more on show or something. I don't know.

People are looking busy and professional and looking like they're unique. They've got a funny tier of exclusivity about them with special rooms for special people. And I don't know. I think a big part of it, though, also is all the procedure and security and rigmarole that comes with airports now yeah because i still do get excited by going on a train yeah if i've got like a two or three hour train trip to london i love that i love going to the train

station and picking my seat as long as it's not already packed train and you know picking my seat and getting out my my ipad and like the start of a train trip still has like a nice feeling for me. But a plane trip doesn't have that. I totally agree with you. And I love it. I love the train. Or even if I'm driving, the start of a big drive has, to some extent, quite a nice feel to it.

Maybe you're ordered around too much on a plane these days, you know. Sit down, turn that off, walk over here. Now you can get on and stop. Too too much waiting time too much okay now wait in this lounge now wait in this seat now wait for this boarding call we get on the plane now wait for the safety message it's too much too much waiting and not enough doing if you just turned up to the airport and got straight on the plane like in the 1950s you, they gave you a champagne and... Like you do with a train. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like you do with a train. The train's great. You can get up and go for a stroll, have a coffee and come back. There's a lovely, lovely feel about the train. You do a lot of big, long family drives, don't you, over to Victoria and stuff? You do that quite regularly. Yeah, we do.

How do you feel at the start of a big drive? Yeah love it i love it now i used to hate it yeah i used to despise it this is from being an only child as a kid and sitting in the back of a car on endless holiday long drives i mean it's wonderful to have a family and go on holiday that's great but you know what i mean like it just feels like forever and i just sit there and read and stuff yeah so as i got older you know driving feels like a chore but i've reached a stage now i absolutely love it just the feeling of the road ahead and the freedom and the time and space are you like a total like chevy chase dad and want to play games and sing-alongs and stuff and like are you uber annoying a little bit to kind of keep the

mood up you know what i mean or to engage everyone for a bit and get off the you know devices and stuff what are some of your go-to moves on a long drive well it's just sort of the same joke over and over and over again really the same same repertoire do you crack out a little bit of i spy with my little eye oh we did a lot of that in the early years yeah yeah not anymore every now and then it gets brought up and generally you go, no. It's nice when an unmade podcast comes out. What does your wife do when you say, should we pop on another unmade podcast? It's nice when we've got one that we haven't listened to yet or something, you know, that the kids are interested in hearing. So, we'll pop that on.

If that times out beautifully like it did the other day, oh, that's great. So we'll all listen to that together. That's fun. Do you do a bit of like wait for this next bit, kids? This bit's a classic. I say something really funny in a minute. We usually skip forward the Brady bits, you know. Jump forward.

Push the 15-second button a couple of times don't worry about what brady says here it's not that good no no no oh hang on hang on let's go back i did make one good joke there this is a cracker of an anecdote yeah so um we we yeah so not really that but usually my wife and i will listen to, you know, a podcast and the kids will be watching a movie for a bit or reading a book or something like that or vice versa or an audio book or something like that. We listened to Danny the Champion of the World once, which is such a great book. Do you know that book?

I loved that book. Yeah, I read that book in year six. Yeah, we'd all read it and yet we all wanted to listen to the audio book again, which is great, great story. Let me mention one more thing that my wife mentioned that she was over because I think it's worth saying. Yeah. And that is... The Unbade podcast.

That goes without saying. Literally don't say it. Literally don't say it Is coffee like as in special coffee Or people thinking how unique they are Because they happen to like really good coffee That's I know this is You can't stand this Don't start

You could start me on coffee You know about me and coffee I get pissed off at you and your addiction to coffee. Humans' addiction to coffee drives me crazy. I never think of it as an addiction, except when I'm around you. Because, honestly, it is. I can't quit you, Brady. I think because everyone drinks coffee all the time.

And you have meetings and you have coffee. And it's part of the ecosystem of life and work. Except when I'm spending time with you who doesn't drink coffee and I have to actually put in little like requests every now and then. Like, can we pull over and have a coffee? It's like this anchor on our life together. Like, it's like I'm with a heroin addict and like I've got to take him to the methadone clinic every every hour otherwise we can't operate it must be surely better than when i smoked that's got to be like that's that but it feels a bit like i still smoke because i have to have a cup of coffee or i'd like

to have a cup of coffee i don't know i don't remember us spending a lot of time together during your smoking phase and i always imagine you going through a smoking phase as being purely like for like posing purposes like just because you like like how it looks and like you wouldn't have to smoke it's just like you'd like the idea of being the guy who's having a smoke whereas your coffee addiction does seem to actually you know prevent you being able to operate the magical powers of of my body have did not we're not resistant to nicotine addiction either so that was okay but i um but um i'm very glad to have given up smoking i should add and haven't smoked for quite a few years in fact i i actually i actually i'm over that like if i smell a cigarette i it

used to be tempting or nostalgic and now i find it repulsive to be honest i don't want to belittle your addiction and because i wasn't like seeing a lot of you at that time i'm speaking purely from a position of taking the opportunity to rip the piss out of you but like i i imagine you going through a smoking phase is like you going through a phase where you like wearing leather jackets it's just like oh i just think like i just think it would be cool to smoke for a while because it looks good. I can't see why you would smoke otherwise. It's because it's enjoyable. It's not like an, it's not an addiction like, oh, then I was, you know, dragged into the seedy underworld of cigarette smoking.

It was like, it's like KFC. It's like, this is awesome. It was just enjoyable. But of course it becomes, this is the drug, it becomes a self-perpetuating enjoyment. That is, it's not enjoyable to not have it. And so you have it to satisfy that. And that's when it becomes addictive.

And then of course- Today's episode has been brought to you by Marlborough. If you'd like to get 10% off first pack of it does become unenjoyable or you sick you go this is i shouldn't be doing this then it's seriously bad for your health and you realize hang on i've been doing this for a little while now and this is not good and so you start to take it quite seriously and that's when you that you up. But it's- yeah, then it's hard to give up. And that's, you know, annoying. But it's- I've been- I did give it up. And, you know, around the time we had kids and stuff like that, it's just like, oh, gosh, yes, get serious and get rid of this thing.

It's like, oh, no, look, I find it actually the idea repulsive to be- and strange. But that is probably part of the cultural change as well that it's not around us as anywhere near as much as it was it's not yeah so anyway you were saying your wife doesn't like people being into that they're really boutique coffees and thinking they're really special snowflakes because they are yeah yeah it's just adelaide australia has reached peak coffee snobbery pretension as well and i say all of that as someone who loves a good coffee loves cup of coffee we have a good machine at work and i really really love it but i tell you what i still have an instant coffee in the afternoon and i love that and i have an instant

decaf at night time and i love that too but i find i love a good coffee and i appreciate people who can make a good coffee and if i get a coffee that's not that great at a cafe, I will sort of screw up my face and go, oh, it's not very nice, which is, you know, not very good. Like I won't do it to the person. It's just, you sort of recognize to yourself, oh, that's not as good as it should be. But I kind of concur with her as well. The whole kind of, you know, let's drive 5Ks further

because there's this particular place where they drink drink out of a vegemite jar and it's you know ground together by ballerinas and what coffee implements do you have at home do you can you like grind your own stuff or do you have like a posh coffee machine like what what props do you have in the house no none jar of nest cafe very simple we have a um plunger oh so you stillcafe. Very simple. We have a plunger. Oh, so you still have like a, you still have a plunger and stuff. Well, it's just a plunger. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We don't have a coffee machine. I plan to buy one at some stage, but I honestly just never got around because I get up and I have a plunger in the morning and it's simple. I like having simplicity. And then I go to work and I make it on a really amazing machine at work all day long that we bought like as a team, you know what I mean? Like as a workplace. But then at home home then i have instant and i have an instant in the afternoon and and then of course every thursday you have that bag of coffee from ethiopia

that gets delivered that you go out the back and grind between two rocks sacred rocks that's right sacred rocks anyway so that but no i was i was at the i was at the cricket the other day and it was just before play was due to start and you couldn't buy like drinks and stuff from the bars because they weren't open yet but this coffee place was open and there was a queue for the coffee that must have you would have to it must have been have to wait 45 minutes in that queue till you got your coffee that's ridiculous and i'm like who can who can want some who can want anything enough to wait 45 minutes in a queue yeah yeah i don't i'm over waiting too that's for sure yeah i am definitely terribly impatient i think by the way i think that podcast idea is like in terms of just assessing it as a podcast i think it's a good idea like it would be a good

thing to have guests on because it's always interesting you know who doesn't like a good whinge certainly we do judging by the last half hour about things that don't really matter in the scheme of things like i'm also over poverty but you know i don't i'm over suffering in the world I noticed we didn't mention any of that. It was all just me, me, me. Me on my planes, me in my coffee, me in my video games. I hope the UN's looking into that video game overindulgence that you had there. I think that's caught within the spirit of what I was talking about, that they are the petty over things, yeah. Yeah, the more first-worldy problem they are, the better. more like the more ridiculous you seem well that's what i do so well well you're a charismatic australian

resident man settle down man you don't have to keep saying it it's uh i'll get a big head i noticed that you emphasize how i'm an australian resident and then for the rest of the night you've just sunk the boot into Australian culture. No, never before. I'm over Australian residents. We should mention our sponsor. Oh, yes, yes. Sofa Shop by Berkowitz.

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No, I was just swapping my ear pods over. All right. I got the noise in the right one that it's gone down, so I've put the left one in now. Sorry, who did you say the sponsor was? It was Hover. Hover. Did you not have your headphones on?

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timhine.ninja. Our thanks to Hover for being such a regular supporter of the podcast. They really help us out. They make it possible for us to make so many episodes. Absolutely. On to you, man. What have you got? I haven't really thought this through enough to have many good examples yet, but I just feel like it would be good fun. And the idea for this podcast is called Rebrand. And the idea of this is whoever's on the show, whether it's regular people or you have guests and that, is you take some famous brand or company or thing in the world and you discuss what you would do if you were like put in charge of the company or put in charge of marketing and branding

how you would rebrand and change the way this company this brand presents itself to the world so you could say okay you're in charge of mcdonald's and you could say you know what red just isn't working i think the I think the McDonald's colour should be green and the Archer's should be blue or something. Or I think we need to, you know, I don't think Rolex should be branding itself so luxury and they should have more like plasticky gimmicky stuff and they should pitch themselves at a lower market or, you know, whatever you want.

You can just talk it through. What are some companies and brands that you think could do with some new magic, some new ideas, a rebranding? This is an interesting idea. This is a really interesting idea because I imagine there are podcasts about branding, obviously, and marketing. In fact, there's a whole plethora of them. Yes. But how you would change something. Yeah.

Is there something that's driving this? Like, is there something in your mind that you think, gosh, why don't they do that? Do you know what? No. Because, like, on the way home, I was thinking today about, oh, I was thinking about various brands. But all the brands I kept thinking of were quite cool brands that I think do a really good job with their branding. Like, I was thinking of, you know, posh watches and cars and all those sort of companies that have got quite cool branding so no i didn't really i didn't really have loads of ideas i did think a bit about the sofa shop if only they added

from berkowitz at the end i think they should go the other way and they should reintroduce their original old brown logo that they used to have back in the day. Oh, yeah. I think they should like go total nostalgia. Wow. That could be like retro sofa shop. Yeah. It would be like Field of Dreams. You know how at the end of Field of Dreams, everyone will come to the baseball field because it will remind them of what it was like to be young when baseball was pure and that and i think that what it could be like with the sofa shop if they put that big old brown

logo up like they used to have and all that beige coloring that terrible terrible look they used to have back in the 80s and 90s like people will come just to remember what it was like to when they were boys and girls and used to see the sofa shop out on TV. If you build it, they will come. How big and comfy their lounge, their couch was when they were a kid. It's like, oh, fantastic. How they could choose a fabric to match their sofa and their curtains. That's right, because you really notice the curtains when you're a kid, don't you? Yeah.

The only time you worry about the curtains is when you're playing hide and seek and you need a good place to hide you get behind the curtains try and tuck your feet in as far as you can that's right basically you would want to choose curtains to match your clothing not your sofa that's right that's right i tell you what i think i don't think there's a brand in the world that couldn't be improved by adding buy Berkowitz at the end of it. KFC, buy Berkowitz. Apple, buy Berkowitz.

What kind of watch is that you're wearing? It's a Rolex, buy Berkowitz. Buy Berkowitz. It does make it sound kind of like more exclusive, doesn't it? The Unmade Podcast by Berkowitz. By Berkowitz, yeah. Well, now we know what Tim's idea is for rebranding everything. That's right.

By Berkowitz. There's nothing else you could add to it. How would you rebrand Berkowitz itself? Well, I think that really is the one. Well, you'd add the sofa shop at the beginning of it. But the sofa shop. Imagine if it had gone the other way around and the sofa shop had bought out Berkowitz and it was Berkowitz by sofa shop. Well, what if you, you know how when you were overseas, you saw a sofa shop over there.

So there's obviously a separate company over there. What if they expanded to Australia and bought out berkowitz so we had sofa shop by berkowitz by sofa shop as they oh my goodness where would it end it would oh my goodness that would be fantastic i wonder about what you could do like you're not talking about products are you like how they could expand their product line? No, I'm willing to include product range. Well, let me mention a serious one that has been a bit of a beef. And it's also an I'm over it sort of thing. And that is, look, I'm in my mid 40s.

Buying sneakers is a challenge, right? Because two things are going on at the same time. That is, I need extra support and comfort when i walk like getting around i've always worn um you know sneakers because they looked cool or because just sort of loyalty like converse all-stars chuck taylor all-stars and so forth yeah you get to a point now it's like it's too flat i need some more support yeah the thing is though you go out and buy a pair of sneakers and you come out with like these space moon boot kind of things that are designed by kanye west and it's like i'm not wearing that like that is just absolutely ridiculous so i'd like to know and so there seems to be this choice

between sneakers that kind of look cool and modest and sleek and then sneakers that look like they've got four volumes of encyclopedia Britannica in the heel. Yeah. That's all pumped up full of air, you know, with tubes coming off it attached to a backpack. And it's like, give me, that's ridiculous. So, give me some cool looking sneakers with some support. That's what I want for a person in their 40s. So.

Okay. I'd like Adidas to do that in particular, but. And what would you call them? How would this be pitched? Because it's like, it's not a very cool market, is it? So I'd like Adidas to do that in particular, but they don't seem to. And what would you call them? How would this be pitched? Because it's not a very cool market, is it? For those of you out there who need a bit of support because you're in your mid-40s. And you get sore legs.

Well, ironically, I'm getting sore legs walking around trying to buy sneakers. So it's a self-perpetuating problem like it's i'm at an even more embarrassing crossroads where like i i'm starting to show a real preference towards shoes that i can slip on rather than having to bend over and do it but i but i still want them to be cool so i'll like go for like toms and things like that but the real reason i'm going for them is because I don't have to bend over and do up shoelaces all the time. You just want to wear a pair of slippers around everywhere. That's kind of it.

I've got this like, I'm going to the gym and I'm thinking, am I going to be able to get away with a pair of sketches here so I can just slip them on? Yeah. Or am I going to be running today and therefore I need shoelaces? Yeah. And they're going to fly off across the room and hit someone in the back of their head because they slip off your feet. Yeah.

There needs to be more shoes without shoelaces. Yeah, yeah. I think we would have moved on from shoelaces by now. They are very primal, aren't they? Really. I'll tell you what I would call my Adidas mid-40s shoes. I'd call them men. Like it's men. Men adidas men and like it's

not boys i don't want boys shoes and i don't want old man shoes and i don't want kanye west shoes i just want men like some a pair of sneakers for a friggin grown man that's all i'm asking for it's like oh yeah these are um these are dignified anyway i think that's where new balance have jumped in a little bit actually and they've got i've found some that are sort of half yeah but they're not very good looking shoes new balance they look no new balance screams sensible shoes like yeah yeah you don't you want to you don't want to look like you care about that stuff no no well i just i've got a i got a pair that was sort of all in one color like they're maroon because they it's i'm doing the best i can man to be honest but

this is my point i need some adidas men that's what we need i'm not on board with adidas men by the way i don't think you've got it yet all right adidas men by berkowitz that's what i want have i got you now now you're talking that's what i want i want i want a sofa for my feet that's what i want the sofa shop would be a cool name for shoes they're nice shoes what brand are they and it's got the sofa shop written along the side of them the sofa shop shoes. It's like a sofa recliner for your feet. That's great. You know what the best thing about these shoes are? They match my curtains.

Oh, I recognise that floral pattern. You know that scene in The Sound of Music, how she makes the clothes out of the kids' play clothes, out of the curtains? Yeah. You know, my mum did, years ago, we had a bedspread that was, no, curtains made out of a bedspread. Mum goes, oh, that's a nice bedspread.

I'll make that into curtains. So, my mum was like even a step ahead of that. These days, I don't know if people do that anymore that sort of reusing of material but they should and they should match their sneakers to it but wow i'll tell you what i also like i like the idea of taking a like a holy crazy brand for a product for a particular brand like what if calvin klein started making cars? Like, what would they do? How would they make cars? Just branched out into an area of which they have no expertise. And, you know, they sort of got, like, a big, like,

wraparound thing around the mud guard and around the back that just says Calvin Klein. Like, they just turn around and think it's white. By Berkowitz. by berkowitz yeah i'm on the berkowitz furniture website now i feel like i feel dirty looking at it like they're like they're like the big like they're the big bad boys that have they're like you know the big multinational that's come into town and- The shop around the corner. Shades, Sophie's shop. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And Fox Books, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Probably the only evil character that Tom Hanks has ever played. And even then he played it in such a- Like, he gets the girl and he's such a nice guy. And he was such a nice guy, yeah. Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks. He played that killer, didn't he? But then even that was-

Killer was nice because he looked after his kid and stuff. What killer? Oh, Road to Perdition. Is that the one you're thinking of But then even that killer was nice because he looked after his kid and stuff. What killer? A road to perdition. Is that the one you're thinking of? Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Sofa shot by Berkowitz Furniture. And the Berkowitz Furniture logo is almost a bit better than...

Is that Joe Bailey in their advertising? I was thinking that before. Is she still married to Steve Silvani? She is, yep. Is she? And they've got a son who plays for carlton as well this is a really funny coincidence not only because we're talking about joe bailey who's married to steve silvani who's an australian ruse footballer in case you haven't caught up everyone else from

every other country on earth but um she was also the host on sale of the century an episode of which i showed my kids last night on youtube because we were playing the sale of the century an episode of which i showed my kids last night on youtube because we were playing the sale of the century game and they wanted to know what it looks like what did they think of sale of the century um they well they love the game and they were really quite interested to watch it because it's quite a conventional i think so i think there was an american version too so at least our american listeners will know what I'm talking about but it's a standard quiz show Filled with almond paste, apple, apricots

Rob? Marzipan? No, lemon curd or sweetened cream cheese is what nationality pastry? We needed Danish pastry You're going up and down and all over the place Rob You're only $5 ahead of Marion and Stuart They were quite interested in it

It was funny to see all the products like how expensive a microwave was and it just looks like their nans like my mum's microwave which she's had legendarily since about 1987 and it's just such a classic 80s kind of microwave i loved it and it's there for like 800 or something like that back then you know which was huge money for a real treat. I was never comfortable with it being called Sale of the Century because it's a quiz show. Why did they emphasise the sale so much when really 95% of the show is, you know,

answering general knowledge questions? Well, I'll tell you what struck me watching it is how much advertising is in it. Obviously, the premise is that you've got to to you can get this product for a good price. That's a great sale. You know what I mean? Rob, I bet you haven't seen one of these in the bush. It's crafted from gleaming 18 carat yellow gold.

The piece features full matching chain and finely detailed koala design centerpiece. It's normally $1,400. Tonight, just $6 from Privileged Jewellery and Sale of the Century. That really is great, Rob. $6 going once. I don't think so, Glenn. $5 going twice. $4 going three times.

Thank goodness we only have to go to this degree. And even the big showcase at the end it's like these cars you know worth forty thousand dollars for three hundred dollars in other words that's a good buy but that was it just seems a bit irrelevant having them you you're buying them because you're obviously winning them but it's just brand after brand after brand it's basically just i think the tv channel selling advertising and once again we've got these two great cars, the new Nissans. Welcome to the new Nissans. Satisfaction guaranteed.

Both the five-speed front-tire TI Super Hatch and two-litre Pulsar SSS are backed by Nissans' new extended manufacturer's warranty and 24-hour-a-day roadside assistance. Yeah, so it was all product placement. Just product placement all the way through, yeah. And Joe Bailey later on as well. Two new players to go up against Robyn to tell us who they are. Please welcome Joe Bailey.

Hi, how are you? How are you? Good. We've got big problems. We've got huge problems, haven't we? We need a new donut man. Oh, we do too. It was a Joe Bailey was the host, was it?

Yeah, it was good stuff. Loved it. Loved style of the century. Yeah. So we haven't really done a very good job with my rebranding idea, but I kind of blame myself for that because I didn't bring any inspiration to the table. I just liked the idea. There are brands that branch into other products of which they seem to have no expertise or business whatsoever for instance you have a clothing brand like um hugo boss or someone like that love a hugo boss suit really nice classic they've done it for years that's great but then you find there's a hugo boss watch that's like what the what is that that's what why would i buy a hugo boss what and then there's hugo watches is a big one for too. Those fashion brands are very big on watches because you can easily just stamp your name on watch designs pretty easily. So, yeah, I don't like all those fashion brands putting out watches.

That just seems bizarre. But it doesn't. It's like I feel like they're devaluing. You don't think we should be moving into an unmade podcast watch business? That's a brilliant idea. I mean. All of a sudden, you don't mind it so much. Well, I mean, Hugo Boss, they're pioneers in this area.

This is a wonderful new world of rebranding other products and selling them to people. You know what we should do? We should market the unmade watch and make it a watch that we never actually make and we just, like, take pre-orders for. People could buy them and wear them but not have them. Like, you're not wearing a watch. And people would be like, I'm wearing an unmade watch.

Really? What'd you pay for that? It's like the emperor's new clothes. Oh, are you? It's really nice. It's really nice. And, you know, it's not heavy or itchy or anything on your arm. You know, it's great.

Whenever people are going to meet Tim, like before he walks in the room, people like just whisper, make sure you say something nice about his unmade watch. That's right. I like your unmade watch, Tim. Well, thank you. How much are we going to charge people for these watches that we don't send them well i think i think i mean what what's a good watch these days oh they can be thousands of dollars oh yeah well you know we wouldn't go that far but no you'd only have to sell one or two i'll tell you what this this month at the perk for being an unmade Podcast Patreon is you are all going to get a free Unmade Watch.

Oh, man, that's generous. If you are a Patreon supporter of the Unmade Podcast this month, you can now consider yourself to be the proud owner of an Unmade Watch. You're like Oprah. I hope you enjoy it. You get an Unmade Watch. You like oprah i hope you enjoy it you get an unmade watch you get a watch you get a watch all of you are now the proud owners of unmade you can tell your friends that that's very generous well make sure you don't the people need to remember not to put on another watch for the next month because there's nothing more embarrassing than going out wearing two watches

that'd look ridiculous that's what's so good about our watches. You can wear one and still wear another watch with it and it doesn't ruin your look. Why not each hand? You can wear two unmade watches if you support us twice on Patreon. There we go. Or you could borrow one from a friend, of course, I guess. What were we doing with the people?

We were just reading them out, the cool reviews. Is that all the prize was? There wasn't something else that was a follow-up from that i don't think i don't think surely being surely having their review read out on the show is prize enough oh well surely should we send them an unmade watch as well that's i think that would be all right coolest thing in the world is too much's not too much extra effort. If you sent out empty small boxes to everyone... I know that would be a massive hassle. Suddenly that actually becomes like a hard job. That's right.

Just an empty little cool watch box. That would be like a little... Cost us a fortune. Yeah. Nice one. That's right. That's right. All right, then.

Very good. Good stuff, man. That's right. That's right. All right, then. Very good. Good stuff, man. Until next time. And we didn't even mention the new Beverly Hills 9210 show. Rob, prepare yourself for the ultimate indulgence. This Italian bedroom unit combines the comfort of a full queen-size bed that can rotate 180 degrees. of a full queen-size bed that can rotate 180 degrees, so the user can view the twin-column entertainment ensemble with phone, art panel, and space for television, video, and stereo.

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