The Unmade Podcast - 32: Dibber Dobber (featuring an Elton John impersonation)

Episode Date: September 4, 2019

Topics include a well-known furniture vendor in Adelaide, bad ideas, crosswords, dusty old CDs, Elton John, tell-tales, A1, and hummus. Thank you to Storyblocks Video for sponsoring this episode. Che...ck out storyblocks.com/unmade to learn more - http://storyblocks.com/unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/czi8eg USEFUL LINKS Sofa Shop/Berkowitz - http://sofashop.net.au Unmade Podcast T-Shirts and merch - https://teespring.com/stores/the-unmade-podcast It Had To Be You album - https://amzn.to/2zOMFmz Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me with Elton John's bit starting at 2:50 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsKqMNDoR4o Paddington 2 on Rotten Tomatoes - https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/paddington_2 Dibber Dobber - https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dibber%20Dobber Flag of Australia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Australia A1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1_discography Hummus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummus

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You ready for me to count to 10? You join in at five? Yep. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Seven. Eight. Eight. Nine.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Nine. Ten. Did you forget again? I did. I was thinking of something that I wanted to tell you. Oh, my God. But look, it took six seconds this time rather than five. So I think I'm expanding my attention span.
Starting point is 00:00:33 You know, I was just telling you that we, sorry, we're a bit like I was a bit late getting here because the usual place I went to to buy the iced coffee had run out. So I had to drive on and find somewhere else. But it was just as well because as I was arriving, there was some, as you call it, extraneous noise, some extra noise that we have to make sure isn't happening around the place, which was the fireworks from the show because the show's on at the moment.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Oh, okay. Yeah. So we had fireworks going on. Well, not overhead, but just down the road a little bit. And we couldn't have started recording with that going anyway. That would have been pretty awesome, podcasting with fireworks in the background. It'd be interesting if they picked up, but they also could be just a lovely ambient noise anyway. But they've finished now.
Starting point is 00:01:19 So, there we go. All right. So, is it true that you've got some sofa shop news? Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop. Look, is it true that you've got some sofa shop news? Look, it's true. I actually phoned the sofa shop because I thought it was worth getting to the bottom of, sorry, I should say the sofa shop by Berkowitz. Yeah. And to get a bit of clarity on what was going on. And I actually thought about recording the phone call, but I assumed that was illegal. So that didn't get a run. You could have gone in there wearing a wire.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I could have. Could you repeat that just a bit louder into my lapel, please? That's right. Just smell this flower here, sir. And repeat what you said. I imagine you would be so nervous wearing a wire, you'd be sweating like a pig. You would be so bad at undercover stuff. Well, it would depend. Yes, I don't like the idea.
Starting point is 00:02:11 In fact, I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable even talking about it. But I called him at least, and I had a bit of a chat. Who's him? Who did you call? Well, I called the shop and I said, is this the sofa shop by Berkowitz? But he actually answered the phone. Hello, Berkowitz furniture.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And so I had to clarify. And so my first question to him was, is it true? Is this a takeover or what's happened to the sofa shop? And he said, yes, the sofa shop has closed and it's now Berkowitz Furniture. And I said, isn't it sofa shop by Berkowitz? And he clarified, no, it really is Berkowitz Furniture that sadly the sofa shop has closed.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I asked about the staff. Had any of the staff been able to be brought across? He said a few of them had been lost, but several people had come across to um to the new you know done the deal with the devil so to speak and sold their souls to berkowitz furniture they sold their souls but for 50 off that's right that's right all souls must go i asked him can you still match your curtains too choose your fabric match your curtains too and he's he he then went on enthusiastically to say oh yes yes you can and in fact we've got dining suites that we've introduced as well and a lot of the furniture is very similar to the sofa
Starting point is 00:03:39 shop um and uh but but you know it's been expanded even in its range as well. So then I asked him about the jingle and, and he really loved that. He says, I love that jingle. And he said, sadly, we're not able to use it anymore. He says, I assume the Berkowitz furniture have their own jingle that they'll be introducing. And so I pointed out, well, that will be interesting because nothing rhymes with Berkowitz. And he laughed and he thought that was really cool. Man, you're stealing my jokes.
Starting point is 00:04:07 What's that? What do you mean? That was my joke in the last one. I know. I know. In fact, I did some great material on the phone and you would have been really proud. You were like testing a few jokes in anticipation of the next podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Did you say why you were asking these questions? Like, did you put your cards on the table? No, he just seemed to be totally believing the fact that someone would call up with all sorts of these intricate questions. Like, he gave me expansive, enthusiastic answers to all my questions. Like, it would be like he's getting lots of them. That's how it felt. He didn't clarify that, but, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Oh, not another one. That's right. Not another podcast that's enamoured by the sofa shop thing. If we've got another ex-sofa shopper on the line, can someone take this? So what's happening with the jingle then? The jingle's just been completely like, I mean, what I want to know is the ownership of it. Yeah, I didn't want to raise that with him in case that raised a red flag and and he's suddenly you know they'd have lawyers all
Starting point is 00:05:09 over it so the dollar signs in their eyes that's right that's right so i just let that slide through and switched my attention away from the jingle and just went back to um you know clarifying that opening hours and things like that and their their location is at Mile End. Although he did clarify they have a slightly smaller footprint because someone has moved in alongside. So that's interesting. They've not got quite as much. They've got more, a greater diversity of stock, but less room to put it in. So that'll be interesting to see if and when I get down there.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Sounds like his heart was with the sofa shop, though, more than Berkowitz. He did. Several times he mentioned 36 years. He says, I've sung that jingle for 36 years, you know. The sofa shop's been here for 36 years. I can't get it out of my head, for God's sake. We all have.
Starting point is 00:06:02 That's the problem. Yeah. So maybe an attempt to kill off the jingle. That's why they sold it to the company with the word that's least likely to rhyme with anything in the jingle. Berkowitz bought the sofa shop, like, as, like, a community service to the rest of us. Just to muzzle the jingle. That's right. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:24 It's not even in an in-house brand by the looks of it. So all our sort of exploratory conversation around the sofa shop by Berkowitz, it apparently it's just been a charade. It really is Berkowitz. The sofa shop has gone. Well, do you know what, though? I think this opens up the window for us to finally release those sofa shop T-shirts that I had made. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Because now that the sofa shop itself doesn't exist, I feel like, you know, now it is truly retro. It is. It is. That's right. Having had 12,000 t-shirts printed, it would be a shame for them to remain in the boxes. I bought a whole property. I'm the other tenant that's moved in next door
Starting point is 00:07:07 To the sofa shop Just with all those t-shirts We should have bought We should have bought a shop They've reduced their footprint So a company could get in Selling sofa shop t-shirts That'd be so cool Bu buying the place next door.
Starting point is 00:07:26 That would be. Just to sell stuff commemorating the sofa shop. Like Kanye West does those pop-up stores all over town and stuff sells out, you know, at elite prices. We could definitely do that. Just do a pop-up next to the old sofa shop. Very interesting, though. I thought they were keeping the sofa shop brand going, but it sounds like not.
Starting point is 00:07:47 They've brought it to an end. Very interesting. We keep saying very interesting. This, of course, is not interesting in any way whatsoever, and we should probably get on with the show. The sofa shop is your only stop for the sofa you need. Tim, you have been sending me a few possible ideas in the build-up to the show. You've been saying that you think your ideas are a bit rubbish today.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You don't feel like you're on your best form. No. And I tend to agree. Thanks, man. But it did make me think maybe this is a time to just burn through a couple of rubbish ideas. Because I think I've got some good ideas, but I've also got a pretty long list of bad ones. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I've also had a few ones that might have like double purposes. For example, let me run a few by you. Just the last few days, I've been having what I like to call like a big admin session where I have to do all the stuff I don't want to do. Like a lot of it can be like accounting stuff, bureaucratic stuff, stuff to do with websites. It could be going through like my back catalogue of hundreds and hundreds of videos and having to change things in the description. The sort of stuff you don't want to do because it's not super creative. Here's an idea for a podcast. Tell me what you think, right? I get a volunteer, unpaid, to come to my office, do all my admin work for a week. And then at the end of the week, I interview them for like 15 minutes or so for a podcast
Starting point is 00:09:15 and ask how they felt about it and how they enjoyed doing it. What if they haven't enjoyed doing it and they've just given you a, like, and they knew this within two hours on the first day, but they have to do the whole week of doing your, like, boring admin. Yeah, that's how it works. Yeah. Yeah. And then they can come back the next week and do it again and see if it improves. And then once they're sick of it and don't want to do it anymore, I get a new guest to come in for a week and do all my admin work.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And at the end of their week, quick 15-minute interview. I don't necessarily publish the interview anywhere. Right. So, what you're basically saying is that you get people to come and do your admin work for free. Yeah. Yeah, that's basically it, isn't it? It's funny, though. People may actually find that an interesting work experience exercise.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Hey, here's an idea I've had since we first started that I don't think I've discussed, right? This is a podcast called Who's Nude? And two people do a podcast each week. One of them is nude. the other one is dressed, and just from listening to the podcast, you have to guess which one is nude. Why on earth? I don't know, but I can't get the idea out of my head.
Starting point is 00:10:36 What possible, like, point does this have? I think it comes down to can you tell if someone's nude or not just from listening to their voice? The answer is no, unless you're suggesting they might be self-conscious about the way they answer questions. Is that right? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Like I said, I'm doing bad ideas.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It's just an idea. How about this one? I got this idea yesterday, right? doing bad ideas. It's just an idea. How about this one? I got this idea yesterday, right? Because I was watching some sport on TV and my wife was doing the crossword and she was asking me to help her do the crossword. And you know how when you're doing a crossword, part of it is purely like a mental thing. Oh, what does this word and definition and coming up with things. But another big part of it is visual. You need to know how many letters it has. You need to look at the blank spaces, look at what's available and that.
Starting point is 00:11:30 But she was just calling across the room to me. She was going, you know, a six-letter word that means this. That means, you know, an argument. And the third letter is an R and the fourth letter might be an E. And I was having to do it in my head. And this isn't really something you should be doing by audio, but we were doing it that way anyway. And it was kind of working.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And I'd sit there in my head and I was picturing things and giving her help and making suggestions. And this is something we do quite often. Sometimes she'll do the crossword with her mum and I'll be in another room. And they just, whenever they get stuck on one, they just call out to me. Brady, we need an eight letter word that means this. And it starts with a U and then if I can get it, I'll call out an answer. And it made me think, imagine doing a podcast like this, where you do like the times crossword each day and you just listen to two people doing it and
Starting point is 00:12:17 they're doing it like, and they're doing it separate from each other. Like you and I are in different rooms. And like, I think some, I think it's quite funny and interesting sometimes to listen to people doing crosswords together. I actually think that's a pretty good idea. I wonder if it's done already. I remember your dad years ago explaining that there was, like, the newspaper in some places is read out over the radio for blind people to listen in and get and get not just the news but the newspaper you know no my uh my my my godmother who has passed away who was the most wonderful woman a woman called olive she used to do that she was a volunteer she would go and read newspaper articles uh over the radio for that reason and i I think she, I think she like specialised in doing
Starting point is 00:13:07 like, you know, The Age or the Sydney Morning Herald. That was her specialist paper. And once a week she went into the station and some editor had chosen six or seven articles and she had a very lovely speaking voice, English accent, and she would just go in and read, read articles. That's lovely. That's great. But i remember at the time we were joking about what she did on the on the funnies page like a far side comic loses a lot of its humor when it's being described you know yeah yeah and the cow's got a really cheeky look on its face that's right but this this idea you get to the crossword you could do it audibly i wonder if that's done you know but you're listening to but itword, you could do it audibly. I wonder if that's done, you know. But you're listening to it.
Starting point is 00:13:45 But you're right, it would be better with two people. Someone asks it, the other one has a go. But this wouldn't be like the solutions. This would be people just trying to figure it out and you're listening to them throw, you know. Oh, could it be umbrella? No, no, that's got too many letters. Oh, ah. What's the third letter again?
Starting point is 00:14:00 It's an S. A what? An F? No, an S. Oh. Because otherwise it could have been, it could have been a cat. But no, that doesn't. I wonder if you could get two hosts that would make it work.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I should have brought a crossword with me and we should have given it a try. Maybe we'll do that as a pilot, like one of our pilot made episodes sometime. We'll just do a crossword together. You wouldn't believe it. I've got a crossword sitting here in front of me. Well, it's the answers to a crossword. It doesn't have the questions. So, that's a bit less interesting.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah, that's not going to work quite so well. One across is fish. Fish. Okay. Cool. There we go. Did you get that? What's your worst idea?
Starting point is 00:14:37 What's like a terrible idea on your list that you're like, nah. Look, I'll open up my notebook, my legendary notebook, which has on the page with podcasts that I can never find. And it has a whole bunch of ideas that we've done. And the page is pretty full. I've got one here called Extreme Podcasting. But I haven't worked out what that is yet. Oh, that's a good idea. You should save that as a proper idea. That would be awesome. All right. Pretend I didn't worked out what that is yet. Oh, that's a good idea. You should save that as a proper idea.
Starting point is 00:15:05 That would be awesome. All right. Pretend I didn't say that. You do an episode from, like, you know, hanging off a cliff in one of those little harnesses that rock climbers use, and then you do an episode in a submarine and stuff like that. Yeah. I've got one here, team meeting Thursday,
Starting point is 00:15:18 but I don't think that's related to the podcast. Right, yeah. I've got here just the word walking. So, maybe it's a podcast when you're out walking and describing things or having conversation with someone. I can't remember that idea. That's like saying, oh, I've got the word here, birds. It's a podcast about birds.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Well, they're sort of memories that I've jotted down, you know, without thinking about any- You can't just pick words, Tim, and then say, it's a podcast about that thing. I want you to take it a bit further. I'm going to try and do that, though. Just for one second, I'm going to flick open a page and point to a word. And the word is... You can do that with a dictionary. Email. So, there you go. It's a podcast about emails. There is an idea that I've got. I thought about using it today anyway i don't know if it's a good idea or bad it feels a bit generic so i'll i'll i'll i'll give it to you it's called cds in the shed and this is from my experience earlier this evening i was out in the shed
Starting point is 00:16:19 you know pumping up a tire on my wife's bike and And I have boxes of CDs in the shed because who has CDs in the house anymore because of, you know, just stream music. And I've got some vinyl in the house, but CDs I don't. So, I just thought I'd pull randomly a CD out and see what it was. And I pulled out randomly and it was a Bach CD. So, I'm like, well, no, try again something more interesting. And out came Harry Connick Jr. It had to be you.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. And I wonder if there's a podcast idea in talking about, you know, this CD, a random CD from the shed. It's covered in dust. What's it all about? So, I gave it like a wipe down and brought it inside. Your wife's like, have you pumped up that tyre? Oh, I knew I forgot something. That's right.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So, yeah. So, the idea is you talk about the cd when you got the cd why you've got it all that sort of stuff so tell me about that one then why did you do you remember where you got that and when you bought it and your memories of it because you quite like a bit of harry conick jr i do i do love harry conick yeah i got into him really early in my cd collection so this is the really early 90s yeah through my cousin i love i actually love this one the best out of his because he's got like a pretty cool looking shirt and tie on the front cover but he's also it's one of those superficial about it no no at the time that was important i went yeah he looks cool he looks like he's on a gq magazine or something but he But I think it's one of these albums where an artist brings out like three or four albums
Starting point is 00:17:47 and then they become quite big. So the record company goes back and gets the best songs from those first few and then chucks them on a new album and brings it out and says, hey, here's his new album. And that one sells really well. So it's like a really early little greatest hits just as you're becoming famous. And that's kind of what this one is. I really love it. Do you remember buying it? Was buying ad like a big investment for you back then was it like
Starting point is 00:18:09 taking the plunge or was could you buy quite a few i don't remember what they cost but i seem to recall buying cds not being like trivial no no like 30 which was a lot of money that was like um three hours worth i mean 30 bucks is a lot now for a c i wouldn't buy a cd for 30 now no way that's a lot i don't think i'd buy a dvd for 30 like it's just yeah it's a lot where were you getting the money for cds because i remember you've been quite into music where did you get money for cds well from my jobs like part-time job i had a part-time when i was a kid i've delivered newspapers but around this time i was working at springfield meats which is a butcher at marion shopping center and on saturdays i'd
Starting point is 00:18:51 clean it so cleaning out a butcher on a saturday afternoon that's a hell of a job i went home dripping wet but um but it was good fun and then i pumped petrol remember at mick scorpos petrol discount king but like that's paying small money you'd have to work like a day just for a cd oh yeah like several days like several shifts yeah yeah like it's yeah that's right yeah it's a big deal but and and that's where a lot of my money went on the music because mum and dad wouldn't buy it so i yeah i just buy a lot unless you wanted to listen to marching bands that's right Lots of vinyl marching bands. I was helped by the fact that it was a secondhand CD store, Big Star Records, legendary place within walking distance.
Starting point is 00:19:35 So you can get them around there for like $15, secondhand ones. So that's good. How deprived were we not being able to illegally download music when we were kids? It's a disgrace. Kids today don't know how lucky they are that's right they can just steal their music i'll tell you a funny thing i finally this is in harry connor like he it's big band jazz sort of music as i guess most people know but he's getting on a bit now so people may not know but then a few albums on he decided to make a more rustic kind of new
Starting point is 00:20:07 orleans kind of um album which had a bit more rock and and stuff in it and um it turned some people off so when he finally toured australia um i was dying to see him and went along with my cousins and stuff and and we were sitting down the front took close to the front then people got up and danced and stuff and it seemed to be like a whole bunch of girls and and me so there were all these sort of girls calling out harry harry harry and then i called out harry like about four rows of people looked around i was like sorry i'll get my coat a bit self-conscious there but there were some people leaving because it was a bit more boisterous than they thought. They thought it was going to be sort of quiet piano.
Starting point is 00:20:47 But he went through a funny time there. So, there you go. I think it's a good, you know, it's a good solid idea. Probably already exists. It's basically the, I mean, there's a lot of podcasts now about, like, you know, reviewing old films from the 80s and 90s and what do they like and things like that. And it's probably true with music too. Your sort of selection method maybe gives it a nice little gimmick. I like rather than reviewing the music, which you haven't really talked about yourself anyway, but rather than reviewing the music, I do like how you like the nostalgia of the time and the stories from the time.
Starting point is 00:21:22 That sounds almost more fun. Like, you know, the stories of what you had to do to buy this cd working in the butcher and things like that i'll tell you what i'll give you i'll give you the nostalgic sound of a cd being opened and closed here we go and then yeah yeah well yep wow that's audio gold that's audio gold right there I'll tell you one thing about this album Is I know every word to every single song on this album Yeah Probably except number seven, I think But, which is not a good a song
Starting point is 00:21:55 But you know what I mean? I could sing them all off the top of my head Listen to them over and over and over again What's song number seven? Song number seven is called Promise Me You'll Remember How ironic, that's the one you can't remember But all the others are classics Except number ten, Lofty's Roach Self-Late, because that's an instrumental. So I don't know the words to that one.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Well, you should do. Well, that's right. In fact, that's the one I'd most like to hear you sing along with. Thank you. Do you know what I think I want to give you, like, some credits for is that you often break out in song on the podcast. Like we were listening to the last podcast today, right, in the car. It was actually quite meta because we were driving along as a family listening to the podcast. Ask me talk about how we listened to the podcast driving along as a family.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So it was really quite meta and funny. But several times you break out in the sofa shop theme or some other theme. Yeah. And I thought, wow, he really goes for it. You really just go. If you've got it, flaunt it. I'm not saying you've got it. I'm just saying you're bold to flaunt it.
Starting point is 00:23:03 That's for sure. Do the kids ever say wow brady's such a better singer than you dad no they don't say that no but i it may be noticeable i i would it had to be you it had to be you hang on is the c playing? Hang on, I can't. Oh, was that you, man? That was me. It wasn't even the CD. I thought the CD had accidentally started playing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:33 What's sitting in his case there? That's right. I thought it could Bluetooth out of the case. Don't they do that? Is that right? You have to put it in something. This has to be near an iPhonehone that's right yeah well you never sing on the podcast and you're the one who bloody can't stop singing in real life i know i love to sing yeah but you won't
Starting point is 00:23:55 sing on the podcast no no i won't sing on the podcast obviously not that good i think you know you're not that good and you know i am would, okay, there are 12 tracks on here. Say a number, and I'll sing a line from the song that is attached to it. Three. Three. But not for me, it is. Now, Elton John did a really cool version of this on the Four Winnings and a Funeral. He sang it a little bit faster.
Starting point is 00:24:21 But not for me. They're writing songs of love. But not for me. They're writing songs of love, but not for me. So that's my version of Elton John singing a Harry Connick Jr. song. You do do a good Elton John. And you love doing an Elton John. I do love doing an Elton John. I still don't know the word.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I'm baiting you into doing it, Elton John, by doing my Elton John. I can't find. I can't find. The right romantic line. I still don't know the line, but I've seen. He's saying I can't find the right romantic line, I think. The right romantic line. That's from Don't Let the Sun Dirt Down on Me. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Elton John.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I can't cry. Oh, the right romantic line. You see me once. You see the way I feel. You see the way I feel. Don't discard me. This is when you realise how thin George Michael's voice was. He goes, baby, no.
Starting point is 00:25:33 He was good. He was good. I still get goosebumps whenever I listen to that song. It is a great song, isn't it? It's a good video, too, because it's all live and stuff. That's great. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Well, that's a good podcast. because it's all live and stuff. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's a good podcast. Like Tim does Elton John. You did a whole podcast talking like Elton John. I have to say, I have to say, building on from last time I was talking about the Queen biopic, last night I watched Rocketman, the one about Elton John. Yeah, and it's rubbish too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I thought that's good. No no it's kind of creative at least they try and break out of the overly serious mold and and so that they move back and forward and so forth but i didn't i didn't enjoy it i didn't enjoy it felt it still felt derivative do you know what film i watched a couple of nights ago? What? Paddington 2. Oh, I've not seen that yet, but I've heard it's really great. I was, about a year ago, my wife watched it on a plane and I watched the last 20 minutes over her shoulder with no sound on a little plane screen and it made me cry just watching it. So we watched it a couple of nights ago. Fantastic film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I was like, God, this is good. I looked up on Rotten Tomatoes. What do you think its critic score was on Rotten Tomatoes? It's either surprisingly low, but I've universally heard it's great. Is it 97 or something? 100%. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And for a sequel. That's incredible. Yeah. The first one got 97%. I've not seen either of them because the kids got to them before me. And so I didn't get to watch them, you know, with them, which is generally how I end up sitting through kids films. Well, instead of watching bloody Rocketman and Queen films, you should be watching the Paddington films. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Well, I will. I will. I have been meaning to, particularly the second one. Do you need to watch the first one first or? You don't need to watch the first. I'd go straight to the second. I like Paddington Bear. I dressed up as Paddington Bear for book week when I was in primary school.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah. So I feel a bit of a connection with him. I feel like he understands me. Well, yeah. I feel a bit of a connection with him, yeah. Nice. I go to Paddington Station a lot. So, you know, I practically made that film.
Starting point is 00:27:42 That's right. I remember getting a photo with the Paddington statue there to send to the kids when I was there with you last year. That's cool. Great film. Great film. Okay. So, before that, you said you cried in Paddington 2? My word, yes. Very emotional at the end. Wow. So, before that, what's the last film you cried in? I cry a bit at films and TV shows. i'm i'm pretty uh i'm pretty easily affected by media like that if they do it well i can be turned off very quickly but i also i can be quite sentimental and quite moved yeah no i'm i'm pretty sentimental i cry quite a lot of tv shows and movies like formula one racing that kind of thing not much that, but I can be affected by sport.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm easily affected. I'm easily affected by media. Watching things on planes is worse, though. There's actually scientific research that shows you're more likely to cry at films and things on planes. I've read that too. Yes. Yeah. Particularly men, they say.
Starting point is 00:28:41 The research I read in an article said that men, but it's probably everyone. It's probably the feeling of being far away from people and a bit of the tiredness and strain. I think it actually may be like physiological. It's not just like psychological. Oh, really? I think there are physical reasons for it too. So, let's do an ad. All right.
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Starting point is 00:29:32 So can you, picking up on my point earlier about the fireworks happening at the show over the top, can you add firework from Storyblocks to what I'm saying right now? Well, because we're doing an ad for Storyblocks video, not so much. Right. They do have audio and photos, but I think we're supposed to be promoting the video. Right. Okay. The video side of things. So, you know, let's not cross the streams here.
Starting point is 00:29:59 So, if people are watching this on the YouTube, you could show some fireworks right now. Is that right? Yes. Yes. Yes. And I feel quietly. Let me log in to my Storyblocks account right now because I've actually been hitting the Storyblocks pretty hard lately, Tim, for professional reasons. Yeah. So I've got the account to hand here.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Let me call it up. Oh, look at those fireworks. Oh, this is just for the youtube watchers oh look at those ones oh a green one oh that's beautiful well that's fantastic wow this is this is some great acting you're getting here people between acting and singing which one do you think i should lean more heavily into i am now looking at videos on they have i think it's fair to say there are a lot of fireworks videos on Storyblocks you could download if you wanted to incorporate fireworks into a film or like a website you were doing or any other kind of project, royalty free. video the other day and the person i was interviewing was talking about wisteria um you know the plant the flowers and i was like oh i really need to show some wisteria on the screen
Starting point is 00:31:11 at the moment and i wouldn't even know where to go to film some and then i'd have to pack my car up and take all my camera gear and film it wipe out a day or half a day just to get like a five second shot of wisteria went on to storyblocks sure enough they had shot of Wisteria. Went on to Storyblocks. Sure enough they had footage of Wisteria. Grabbed it. Within less than 30 seconds. It was in my project. Beautifully professionally shot Wisteria. Who could have ever even known I would have needed that.
Starting point is 00:31:36 But when I did. Storyblocks video had it. That's brilliant. You never know what you're going to need. They've all got it all. If you're interested. Check them out. Let've all got it all. If you're interested, check them out. Let me give you the URL.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Go to storyblocks.com slash unmade. That's storyblocks.com. Use the slash unmade because that tells them you came from here. And check out the huge range of stuff. You just pay like, you know, your one monthly amount and you've just got full access to this unlimited library. Anything you could ever need. What's something you could need in a website or a film sometime in the next year? And let's see if they've got what you'll need.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Let's put them to the test. Someone looking pensive. Pensive. So I use the word pensive. I've got a page. I'm not even joking. I have a page of people word pensive. I've got a page. I'm not even joking. I have a page of people looking pensive here. I was trying to think of something more than just happy or sad, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I've got pensive woman standing on a bridge. I have a young African-American man looking pensive in library. Worried man sitting in garden. Pensive businesswoman drinking coffee outside. Sad pensive woman sitting in armchair at home. Serious senior man with white beard looking pensive. There are a huge amount of pensive people on Storyblocks. That is absolute.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I think they should have like a fourth string to their bow. They could have Storyblocks video, Storyblocks audio, Storyblocks images, and a new one, Storyblocks Pensive. It's a whole genre in itself. It's a whole medium in itself. They've even got, and I'm not joking here, videos of people looking thoughtful and pensive in front of a green screen so you can put your own backgrounds behind them. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Storyblocks. For all your pensive needs. You want an idea from me? Oh, yeah, man. I do. I do. I mean, I've got more rubbish ideas, but they can wait for another week. How about this one? I want to call it Dibba Dobba, or you could call it Telltale. And this is a podcast where people come on and just like dob on people, grass people. And the reason I thought of it was I was driving along, I was driving in my car about an hour ago and I saw a woman on the side of the road smoking.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And then she just like put it out on someone's front wall and chucked the cigarette like in their front yard. And it made me want to like tell on them like, oh, I saw this woman, I saw this woman and she did this. And like, you know know shame her a bit so that the initial idea for the podcast is you come on and you just dob on people that you think need to be exposed like like bill in the office who never cleans his coffee mug and always leaves it for someone else to do and you just get it off your chest you can just be a total you know tellale. And then from there, maybe the podcast
Starting point is 00:34:27 would go into like next steps. Like how do we deal with this? How do you deal with it personally? Or do you confront them? Or how should this person be punished? But it's a chance, instead of bottling it up when you see people doing wrong and being all stiff upper lip and British about it, this is a chance to speak your mind, grasp them, publicly shame them. So just to be clear then, are you talking about going on to the podcast
Starting point is 00:34:52 to talk about like what to do about it, the persons anonymously, or actually you get to name them and like you say, like shame them? I mean, I haven't thought about it that much. I mean, obviously there are implications about going onto a podcast and like, you know, naming people for, you know, being like this, like, this online lynch mob or, like, you know, acting as judge and jury. It's supposed to be a bit more fun than that.
Starting point is 00:35:18 It's supposed to be trivial. Right. This isn't like, you know, telling off people for, you know, dealing drugs. This is like dobbing on people. It's like more childlike, the sort of stuff that kids dob on for, you know, telling off people for, you know, dealing drugs. This is like dobbing on people. It's like more childlike, the sort of stuff that kids dob on for, you know. Because I have to say, when you talk about people being British and stiff upper lip, like, I don't know if anyone is anymore because everyone seems to vent everything on Twitter or Facebook. Like, you know, the public shaming that goes on is extraordinary. Yeah, there is an extent to which this is already happening in fact a friend of mine on instagram the other day he was on a train sitting next to a woman
Starting point is 00:35:49 who for the whole trip cut her fingernails like with scissors and like there was like a pile of nails and stuff on her little table on the train and he was like stuck next to her so he started secretly filming it and posting it to instagram stories oh whoa that's full on so gross it was so gross it's full on to be doing it it's full on to put it on instagram though as well no no so there is an extent to which like you know yeah we already do this this is just i guess doing it in a podcast but yeah this is like it's it's basically it's complaining about people isn't it really But it's like dropping them in. Because we've all got, you know, we've all got things that annoy us and people we think should be told off and exposed.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Do you know what it is? It's kind of like a micro WikiLeaks. That's what it is. You just dump it. WikiLeaks for the guy who doesn't clean his coffee cups. That's right. That's right. That's right. Didn't clean up.
Starting point is 00:36:48 You know, I'm talking that kind of small fry stuff. Neighbourhood disputes, office gripes. Yeah. You know, the person who always leaves the toilet seat up and stuff like that. You go onto a podcast and explain in great detail why it's frustrating. Yeah, it frustrates me. And what should we do about it? What do I do?
Starting point is 00:37:06 Do you confront him? Do you just, you know, get on with it? How do you handle these situations? Do you call the boss? Call the police? What do you do? So what would you call it? Dibba-dubba?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Well, I like dibba-dubba. That's what I called someone who, like, that was like the derogatory thing you would call someone when I was a kid, you know. Like, you know, if I was like, you know, pulling my sister's ponytail and she was going to tell mum, oh, don't be a Dibba Dobba. Don't be a Telltale or what do you call them? A Tattletale. There's all sorts of names for it. What's the family attitude to dobbing in your house? Because as soon as you have multiple kids dobbing becomes like
Starting point is 00:37:46 a huge issue for life this was my experience of having a sister you know when to dob when not to dob what's the ethics of dobbing it is a really difficult one to think about isn't it when you think about it in terms of a life lesson because yes there is a sense there's a balance going on between being a person who values truth and yes you know, learning to be a person who values truth and not covering up things that are corrupt and those sorts of things. Yes. You'd like to think that they're a courageous person who will grow up to be a whistleblower, you know, on a company or something like that. But on the other hand, there can't be the, you know, every little thing. It becomes like complaining about trivial things or things that are um yeah you become a whinger there's also but there's also
Starting point is 00:38:29 that extra lesson where you're wanting to encourage solidarity between the siblings and trust and sometimes that involves having their secrets and so like there's yeah there's much subtlety going on to dobbing that's right camaraderie that's right there's a they find that in sporting teams you do an enormous amount to build up camaraderie but then there's you know do do which one of you stand then one of them goes before a tribunal and who's going to testify so corruption you know and untruth and all that breeds because people aren't willing to break camaraderie that's how police corruption and all that kind of stuff happens. It's a balance between those two things.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I remember years and years ago, what must have been like in, I can't remember how long ago it was. It was when I was in high school and I was representing our school in this like youth of the year competition that was run by Lions Club. And part of it was you had to go to the local Lions Club and do a speech. I remember you doing this. Yeah, yeah. And another part of it was you had to go to – it was like a competition.
Starting point is 00:39:34 You were against a bunch of other students. And one of the other components was you had to go to, like, the house of these three Lions Club members. And they interviewed you to find out, you know, how good you were and what kind of person you were. And they asked you questions find out you know how good you were and what kind of person you were and they asked you questions and stuff just just to suss you out and one of the questions i was asked was what would you do if you were with like you know your best friend and and then you found out they were like doing drugs you know like not hard drugs but you know they had a smoke of marijuana or something and And I straightaway thought, what's the answer they want to hear?
Starting point is 00:40:10 And I think my answer was along the lines of, I can't remember what I said, but the upshot of it was I would grasp them. I would, because, you know, drugs are wrong and you can't be doing drugs. And with some reluctance, I would, you know, report them to whoever they had to be reported to. And to this day, I regret that answer. Because not only, well, basically basically because it's not true. Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And also, it's not the kind of person I was or want to be. And I really regret that I gave that answer and pandered to them like that. I wish I'd said, well, I'm not going to dob on my friend if they just, you know, I'd tell them you shouldn't do that and maybe talk to them about it, but I'm not going to grasp them. I still regret that. I remember like during the speech thing, right? That night you had to do a speech. Yeah. No, you had to answer questions first. They gave you these questions on the spot and you had to answer them. And then you had to do your prepared speech and then they judged a winner. And this was like the second round when this happened. I'd already got through like the regional round and I was now at like the next level up. So, the competition was a lot better. And I absolutely bombed when they asked me the
Starting point is 00:41:10 questions. Like, I can't even remember what the questions were, but you know, in front of this huge audience, they asked me some intellectual question. I completely couldn't deal with it and made a fool of myself with some bumbling answer. Went and sat down and then I watched the other kids get up and absolutely nail it like they were buddy John F. Kennedy with their answers. So I knew I'd lost, like I knew I was out. And I still had to go up and do my speech. And to this day, I wish I'd gone up and done my speech
Starting point is 00:41:38 about how I regretted my answer from earlier that day about the drugs and the dobbing and retracted it all. That would have been a really cool thing to do so was that in the same round that was in the same round that the question about yes yes i think it was in the same round yeah it would have been impressive to them firstly that you'd chosen such a risky topic but secondly that you'd done it so quickly that you'd said i've thought about this and it would have demonstrated, you know, your ability to reflect upon yourself and so forth. Yes, it would have been awesome, but I wasn't awesome. No.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And I lost. You should have just got up and sang, man. That's working for you. I could have done my Elton John. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Tim Hine. And then I came out from behind the curtain. We did a duet. Rocky and fine. It would have been cool if you'd done Elton John.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Elton John came out from behind the curtain. I would have won. Wow. I remember in the first round, like the earlier round where I did win, my impromptu question that I was not prepared for was, do you think Australia should change its flag? Oh, yes. Because, you know, the Australian flag has the British Union jack on it, obviously. And some people who want to sort of cut ties with Britain think it should change.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Was it just about the flag? I remember you coming back and talking about how, whether Australia should become a republic. No, it wasn't about a republic. It was just should Australia change its flag. Okay. And I thought for a couple of seconds about my answer and then I looked out at the audience in the Lions Club and it was all like old, white, 80-year-old men. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And I knew what I had to do. white 80 year old men right and i knew what i had to do and i gave this impassioned speech for keeping our flag and all the people who you know died in the wars fighting under the flag and uh got a rousing reception you're so you're so strategic i see i remember you going off to this thing, right? And I remember it slightly differently. I remember you saying how they asked you about, but basically the same question about changing the flag, which is a sort of a related to whether we'd become a republic or not
Starting point is 00:43:58 and that sort of thing. And I thought you argued for a monarchy, but you effectively argued the same similar kind of thing about the flag. But I remember admiring you a bit at the time, like because this is 1993 where everyone kind of wanted a republic. It was a really, you know, it was like the thing, the cool thing. And I was certainly for an Australian republic. And so I just remember you being admirable, like, oh, wow, you've really got a different view. And you've just presented that view, even though it's not the really popular view at the moment but
Starting point is 00:44:27 actually you would just be you were just being a salesperson reading the room i do think i would keep the australian flag now though because the older i get the more i like traditions and the more i do think for goodness sake a bunch of people did die under that flag like why not just keep it for their sake no one you know it's just a piece of cloth anyway yeah i'm a bit over flags i have to say i've had a bunch of debates about flags at local council and i'm i think sometimes they're more trouble than they're worth although i know that's heresy in many parts but more trouble than they were well no well you know what they are they just become i mean they are and i guess that's exactly what you're saying they're incredible they become become... I mean, they are... And I guess that's exactly what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:45:05 They're incredibly... They become symbols for something else, don't they? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But we have... I'm not sure I'd keep the Union Jack, but I like, I think, a minimalist change. So, something that just simply keeps the Southern Cross
Starting point is 00:45:18 and what's there is nice. Like, don't change it radically. I don't think that's ever going to happen. But I can see a day when it's minimalised or some kind of Indigenous features added or something. I think the Australian flag will change in our lifetime. You do? Late in our life.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah. Depending on how long we live. I still favour an Australian republic, but I feel less passionate about it. Not that I feel more passionate about the royal family, but I can't think... I worry about us electing an Australian. If we do a popular election, I think that'll be awful.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And the kind of person that will run to be elected, yeah, it doesn't fill me with joy. And I can't think of them being as dignified as I guess the Queen has been. But the Queen won't be there forever either. queen has been but the queen won't be there forever either so no i'd like i'd like the idea of someone being appointed who has you know it removes that aspirational nature of it from a little bit i'm persuaded by what ben elton said once and that is the idea of he likes the idea of someone who has to do it rather than someone who wants to do it um being the one who does it and i think that's a pretty good argument if you know human nature. See, I think my Dibba Dubba podcast could be quite fun
Starting point is 00:46:28 if listeners get to send in their dobs. Oh, yeah. So it's just like dobbing on people to this, like, centralised dobbing area. I want to tell on Bill at my work who spilled strawberry jam in the office and sneaked away and didn't clean it up. But I saw and I want everyone to know it was him that spilled that strawberry jam. It would be great. It would be great if the person hosting the podcast or the co-host was like a very senior high court judge or like a person of, you know, unquestioned, like a Supreme Court judge,
Starting point is 00:47:12 an unquestioned degree of seniority and understanding of job, like Jeffrey Robertson or someone like that. And we just have to call up with these very tiny. It's like, I got the toast out. I got the bread out first, but they got to the toaster first. Who should be able to make their breakfast first? Yeah. What does a Supreme Court justice think should happen
Starting point is 00:47:31 with the woman at my local park who always lets her white dog off the lead that barks at the squirrels and she never shuts it up or tries to stop it from barking? Everyone else, if their dog starts barking and going crazy at the squirrels, will be embarrassed and try and put their dog back on the lead. I'm so sorry of course sometimes you can't control your dog and it's like an embarrassing moment but this woman has no shame no embarrassment it but he screams it screams itself hoarse for 20 minutes while she obliviously just walks around the park
Starting point is 00:47:58 that needs to be dealt with she needs to be dobbed on he would He or she would listen to it and then say, well, I go back to the Crown versus Browning on this one. That's right. The people versus Fido. That's right. That's right. The other thing I love about listening to court proceedings or lawyers and so forth is how casually they drop in latin and and then into the middle of conversation you know they say oh well you know luminous umptis would apply the other oh yes it would umpalumpus will apply here if quovis is conditional, then after the fact, ipso facto, everyone knows.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Yes, your honour. Oompas, loompas, doompadis do. I have another puzzle for you. It's basically court is just a place where people can get together and brag about how much Latin they know. And then everyone's just... Imagine if instead of dropping in Latinin though they dropped in wookie so it'd be well of course you're not this is a case of and i think that they're just cracking on as normal objection you honor that is clearly a case of
Starting point is 00:49:21 not applying in this case. Oh, man. What language do you know the most of apart from English? Do you know any other language? We didn't do Latin at school, quite obviously. I did one year of French at school and I joined the school late, so I was behind the rest of the class. So I never really learned it very well at all. Do you find, though, when you're in France, it seems to come a little bit easier?
Starting point is 00:49:47 This is one of those ones that seems to come a little bit... Or you like to think you're talking French by the end of the first week. No, not in a conversational way. I can jokingly say the odd word, you know, but no, not in any useful way. Tim, I'm going to pick a random patron shout out. Cool, my girl. A random Canadian. Okay. No, my girl. A random Canadian. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:07 No, it's not a Canadian. It's someone from Norway. Wida. It looks like Vida, but he's put in brackets here. It's pronounced Wida. That's a cool name. How's it spelled? V-I-D-A-R.
Starting point is 00:50:19 That's a cool name. Like Darth Vida. Darth Vida. Wida. Darth Wida. There's no Darth at all. I don't even know why i'm saying that no we da says i love listening to your podcasts and think you are really funny he's not being specific who he's talking to there so i'm going to assume it's well maybe both of us i've just graduated from university with a master in physics and i'm now
Starting point is 00:50:42 working as a high school teacher while taking the pedagogical I can never say that what's that word pedagogical yeah he's taking that education on the side apart from maths and physics I love singing oh wow and when I was little I dreamed about being part of a1 what's a1 is that a band something? That must be a Norwegian boy band or something. They're a British boy band. They're a boy band. Formed in 1988. He says, I didn't end up joining A1, but do sing bass in a chamber choir. I usually listen while commuting, like most people, I imagine.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I think he's talking about listening to us now, not A1 or chamber choirs. And here's his idea for a podcast. Wieda's idea for a podcast we does idea for a podcast it's called we do it better every week you take a concept from another podcast and do exactly exactly what they do only better then the content would range all the way from movie reviews to political analysis and awkward content okay yeah i, that's an interesting idea. So, just rip off other podcasts, but do it better. I mean, I think if we were capable of that, we would, like, probably be more rich and successful than we are.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah. That's like, you know, that's like me saying, oh, well, I'm going to watch Paddington 2 and now make an even better Paddington movie. That's right. That's right. What would we do if someone started an unmade podcast that was better than ours unthinkable well impossible naturally go with me on it though they were attempting to well i don't know it sounds sounds like it'd be an awesome podcast you know what i would do i would listen to it and i would support them on patreon yes just as the people listening right now to us should support us on patreon by going to patreon.com slash unmade fm and making a small
Starting point is 00:52:35 contribution which helps us make more episodes gives you access to our feed people who previously support us now even own unmade watches because of their support. Do send in pictures of your watches, guys. Yeah, we've been enjoying those, seeing your wrists wearing your unmade watches. So do consider supporting us. And you may be spoken about on the show as Wida just was, even though we didn't give much discussion to his idea
Starting point is 00:53:03 because I don't think he gave us enough to work with. He's basically saying his idea for a podcast is just to make the best podcast in the world. That's right. Which is a good idea. Yeah, but we already had that idea. We're already doing it. I'll tell you, WIDA is a better name for a band than A1 That's for sure
Starting point is 00:53:26 Yeah, I don't know what he's complaining about He was already there Yeah, A1's a terrible name for a band A1's also a road in the UK I wonder if A1's named after A1 Were there any words that you had to say for your daughters? Oh, yes I'll tell you what How come I'm the one that always remembers you'd think they
Starting point is 00:53:48 were my daughters oh gosh um girls i just want you to remember who remembers every week girls it's not your dad it's your brady oh dear i feel like i remember that next time you next time you're doing a painting at school and you have to, like, dedicate it to someone. Just remember who it is that remembers your word each week. And it's Father's Day today as well. The girls should be sending me a card for Father's Day. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:54:21 See if you can drop their words into the next two sentences without me figuring out which ones they are Alright, I will have to get on a bus And eat some hummus Laughing after the words doesn't help, man No, it doesn't, it doesn't, I'm sorry Bus and hummus Yeah, I don't know where that't. I'm sorry. Bus and hummus.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Yeah, I don't know where that came from, but that was one of the words. And then the other one was bus because it was being made out of Lego recently. So, those are the two words. And there they are. That's terrible. There they go. How could I have used them? I mean, where could I fit in bus? I could have pretended that there was an Harry Connick Jr. song called...
Starting point is 00:55:08 On the Bus. Get on your bus or something. We missed the bus. I had to get on the bus. That crisscross song. I had to get on the bus. It's hard. There's not many songs called hummus.
Starting point is 00:55:20 It's hummus, isn't it, with a U, not hummus. But it's pronounced. I always pronounce it hummus because it's kind of Middle Eastern. Why would it be Middle Eastern make hummus, isn't it, with a U, not hummus But it's pronounced, I always pronounce it hummus Because it's kind of Middle Eastern Why would it be Middle Eastern make hummus wrong? Hummus, well it's just because hummus sounds like an Australian accent Hummus Hummus, you think hummus sounds more Middle Eastern?
Starting point is 00:55:37 It does, I speak Middle Eastern Do you? It's a language I did Middle Eastern for six months at high school I'm looking up to see the pronunciation online It's obviously spelt hummus, but it's It hasn't even got an O in it No, no, no, there's no O in it
Starting point is 00:55:57 Exactly, but you pronounce it as if it's got an O in it Hmm, well that's The O is silent And invisible It's an Arabic word meaning chickpeas Hmm. Well, that's... The O is silent and invisible. It comes... It's an Arabic word meaning chickpeas. Yeah, that's got nothing to do with how it's pronounced. Well, there's no U in chickpeas, is there? Let's be honest. That's true.
Starting point is 00:56:17 There's no O either. There's also no O, yeah. Maybe it's hemis. Hey, look at this, though. Wikipedia says the etymology is... Well, it says that spelling can be inconsistent. Sometimes it can have an O-U. It's common enough in British English. There you go. It's actually sometimes spelt with an O in a couple of dictionaries.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And H-O-M-M-H-O-M. If people find out how to spell it, record themselves and then tweet it to Brady, and then we'll know. Sometimes the point to end the show just kind of speaks for itself, doesn't it?

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