The Unmade Podcast - 33: Alice Bluegown
Episode Date: September 26, 2019Tim and Brady discuss new T-Shirt slogans, rebellious moments, frequently asked questions, plus Tim reveals his second favourite colour. Thank you to Storyblocks Video for sponsoring this episode. C...heck out storyblocks.com/unmade to learn more - http://storyblocks.com/unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/d9j0tz USEFUL LINKS Counting T-Shirt - https://teespring.com/unmade-podcast-countdown Picasso’s Blue Period - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasso%27s_Blue_Period Blank Unmade Podcast T-Shirt - https://teespring.com/blank-unmade-podcast Tim’s Rebel Moment - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j64SctPKmqk Brady’s Rebel Moment - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuKqcfO31is Alice Blue Gown - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Blue_Gown British Racing Green - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_racing_green The video Brady vaguely recalled making about British Racing Green - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7o3vXfy90 Alice blue, the colour - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_blue Cocktail Soundtrack - https://amzn.to/2ncsGuS
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Today, we're just going to do some rubbish ideas for fun.
Should I do my count to 10?
Do you think you can start on five this time?
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
I had to get it that time because we couldn't start another episode with just ten seconds of us counting just to make the point as funny as it may be.
No, I do think people might start thinking, hang on, I've listened to this episode.
If you keep doing that.
Yeah, they could compile them all at some stage and we could sell a greatest hits of us counting to ten.
Good idea.
That'd be a cool T-shirt.
We could sell our greatest hits of us counting to 10.
Good idea.
That'd be a cool T-shirt.
There's just a row of numbers from 1 to 10,
and underneath there's another row that starts at 6 and is slightly offset.
So, you know how people have such famous quotes that they make it onto T-shirts and people wear them around, like inspirational axioms?
That's my contribution.
and people wear them around like inspirational axioms.
That's my contribution.
That's right.
You're like an absent-minded guy who can't even count to ten properly.
That's your legacy.
That's my legacy.
That's it.
Should we do a couple of ideas?
Are we still doing rubbish ideas from last time or are we doing proper ideas this time?
Have you ever done any other type?
Can we wait till we get to the end of the episode
and then decide whether it was a rubbish idea? time have you ever done any other type can we wait till we get to the end of the episode and
then decide whether it was a rubbish ideas we'll record a little section in retrospect saying
today we're just going to do some rubbish ideas that's right especially brady just tag that on
the front that's right a little cut and paste that would be very handy i think by this point
it just is taken for granted that's that's right this season is just the rubbish season i think that's kind of like that yeah like like
like our blue period that's right working blue yeah i remember remember those 15 or 16 episodes
where tim and brady had really rubbish ideas yeah i thought i thought it was just i um
uh oh yeah no sorry i lost a thought there sorry about that this really is rubbish rubbish ideas. Yeah. I thought it was just... I... Oh, yeah.
No, sorry.
I lost a thought there.
Sorry about that.
This really is rubbish.
Sorry.
Don't be sorry.
That's the best bit of podcasting you've done in months.
The silent years.
Yeah.
Just you going, oh, I forgot what I was going to say.
Oh, it's gold.
Put it on a T-shirt.
Well, actually, that's already been done.
You know all those blank T-shirts you see around, like American apparel?
That's just me forgetting what I was going to say.
Tim actually gets a dollar every time you wear a blank T-shirt.
My axiom in life is it's what you don't say,
or rather it's what you forgot you were going to say.
Yeah.
That really counts.
Tim actually trademarked blank T-shirts.
He's a genius.
That's right.
It's my Forrest Gump moment.
I'm just picturing in a hundred years people walk past a blank gravestone
and go, oh, that must be Tim Hine.
May he rest in peace.
I love that, the silence.
It's got a lovely classy simplicity to it, I think.
Understated, understated.
It certainly is understated.
It's impossible to be more understated or less stated is another way of saying that.
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
Tim has stripped that back to just don't say anything at all.
That's right. If you can't say anything,
don't say anything. Yeah. Alright.
Ideas. Who's going first? Ideas. Well, I've got a pretty
reasonably strong idea, I think. I quite
like this idea. In fact, I've done a little bit of research on this idea.
Wow.
Gosh.
I know.
I know.
The idea is called My Rebel Moment.
Yep.
And it's a podcast where people talk about the first big defining moment
in their life where they did something that they know they
shouldn't have or they were told that they're not supposed to you know a defining moment where they
rebelled and i think these are defining and really interesting moments in life and i'll start by
sharing one from my own life and then i've got some some from a couple of other people that I've spoken to that
are even more interesting, actually. Mine was at school, and it was quite a strict school,
as you know. And then we had a teacher arrive, an English teacher, who really emphasised the
beauty of poetry and taught us about poetry and how beautiful poetry was and encouraged us
to form a small gang that went out to a cave at night and read poetry to one another.
Oh, wow.
And then after a while, things got a little bit out of hand, but we were all finding our
deep sense of authenticity. But then things got a bit dodgy with one of the students.
And eventually that teacher was sacked.
But in the last defining moment, he came back to his office to collect a few things.
And in an act of rebellion, like I stood up on my desk and cried out, oh, captain, my captain.
What? You got up on the desk?
We did.
In the classroom.
And the whole class got up beside us as well And yelled oh captain my captain
Seriously
It was
Well everyone else in the classroom
Just followed your lead and did the same thing
Well not everyone
Some people still compromised
One guy called Cameron
No
But the rest
Yeah
It was pretty amazing
And
And then
That's impressive
And then the memory ended
Like I went to the credits and stuff
And that was it.
They should totally make a movie about that, man.
That'd be amazing.
I remember it very, very crystal clear.
It was beautiful.
So, that was a moment of defiance and rebellion from my childhood that I hold.
It was the first time I really rebelled.
I remember having a similar thing. I was, because as you know, I grew up on a farm and, you know, I had to work pretty hard.
And like pretty much the only time I ever had any fun was when I went to the Tashi station.
Isn't that where they sell power converters?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then like, but then eventually I was was like i said to my uncle and my
auntie like you know i need to do more i want to get out and explore and stuff and then one time
anyway it goes on it goes on it goes on for quite some time isn't your dad in that story as well yeah i mean i got in in the end i got so rebellious that the like the empire that ran the
galaxy had built this new amazing space station and i just i just blew the thing up wow man that's
you know that's it's an interesting point actually the funny thing about star wars because i grew up
watching star wars and the good guys were the rebels, the rebel and nines.
Yeah.
I always thought being a rebel was a good thing.
Yeah.
And I remember talking, like mentioning it in conversation and saying that it's good to be a rebel.
And my dad going, no, no, no, it's not good to be a rebel.
Rebels are naughty people, you know, like this.
And being really confused because I'd grown up with rebel as a good thing.
you know, like this.
And being really confused because I'd grown up with rebel as a good thing.
I'm not saying it's not good to be a rebel, but in the, you know, from the perspective of childhood, you're supposed to toe the line.
And so my dad was correcting me and I was really confused.
Was your dad's favourite Star Wars movie, The Empire Strikes Back, then?
That's right.
He's just sat back smiling at last.
Yeah.
My parents never understood any of the details to do with
star wars and never saw any of the films themselves and so i somehow scrounged together a collection of
toys and figurines and stuff and whenever i would talk about it enthusiastically they'd sort of look
a bit confused and then it's like what you know what is he talking about? My dad has a Dutch accent. And mum would go, oh, that Jedi thing.
And they were just totally even to this day.
Mum has no concept of what it is, but I was all for it.
She knew that.
It may have happened a long time ago, but still not long enough ago for your dad.
That's right.
Coming back to Dead Poets Society for a moment.
Oh, yeah.
Which was the film you were alluding to with your rebellious story What do you think would have happened if one day
Like in real class, like at our school
If something happened and you just got up and stood on the table
And did something, like said something
What do you think would have happened?
In all seriousness, I think the teacher would just go
What are you doing? Get down
And you just would have got on with the day Like it would not have been a big deal at all, would have happened. In all seriousness, I think the teacher would just go, what are you doing? Get down. And you just would have got on with the day.
Like, it would not have been a big deal at all.
You would have got detention.
Well, that's right.
Yeah, get down or you get detention.
Or what are you doing up there?
Get off there.
And you'd be like, oh, all right.
If everyone else got up, it'd be like, oh, is this some sort of novelty thing or something?
It certainly would.
It wouldn't have been the climactic scene of a movie, that's for sure.
Oh, Mr. Potter, my Potter.
Oh, it's funny.
It's funny you say that, you know, I was out the other night,
I was interstate at a conference and just coincidentally,
two teachers who were teachers at our school were there.
Seriously, Tim, does a day of your life go by where you don't bump into someone who went to
our school or was a teacher at our school? It's amazing.
Adelaide is that small, I guess, but maybe they're following me around.
It's incredible.
Maybe it's like the Truman Show and people that were like, you know, actors around at school days,
like are still looking for jobs.
And so they have to be the person that walks past me in the street now,
even though it's years later.
It's like, oh, hang on a second.
And they're just playing anonymous person number two,
but I recognise them and they have to like go along with it.
Maybe that's what's happening.
That's been like recast.
Okay.
So I've actually only ever met 10 people in my life.
But you've got a long role, man.
You're still going. That's pretty amazing yeah i'm i'm a major player you're signed up for
multiple seasons i'm a fan favorite and then i can just imagine the directors and the producers
saying okay now you're gonna have a podcast with him and you're going what no way that's ridiculous
no it's great it guarantees me work for the next few years
but the good thing is
Because you don't actually get to see me anymore
Yeah
They just had to hire someone who had my voice
And the actual guy who played Brady
Like for most of your life
Has moved on to other things
And I'm just a voice actor now
That's why we're doing FaceTime audio
And not FaceTime anymore
That's right
It's just a voice actor
Are you getting paid the same to do this as you used to do?
I've been recast.
The guy who played Brady's, like, making movies now.
Coming back to your idea of, like, my rebellious moment.
Oh, yeah.
Have you got any, like, did you have any real rebellious moments?
Because I'm assuming this is a podcast, you know, where people come on and talk as you said talk about a moment where they became bit of a rebel that's
right and it's kind of in inverted common as the rebel because the idea of a of a rebel is so
different at different ages like it's so strong when you're a kid being a rebel can be something
really full-on so there are but it's really hard to think of moments that are really defying i mean getting an earring felt there was an element of rebellion
in getting an earring but it's just such a trivial little thing that it's just funny to think about
but when did you get an earring oh when i was about 48 no no no do you do you still have one
now no no no no i got an earring in my early, late teens or early 20s,
somewhere around there, and I had it through most of my 20s, I think.
You can still feel the bit in my ear where it was, which is funny,
and the girls find that a little bit funny.
What made you do it?
Like, what was the motivation?
It's, I can't remember, but it's like everyone.
It's probably a combination of, you know, looking cool and feeling cool and something like that.
It's very real.
Sorry.
Sorry to laugh at the notion of you being cool and always feeling cool.
I know you're laughing at the idea that I had to try and be cool.
It's like, but Tim, you're already cool.
Why are you getting an earring?
I did.
I had one in my eyebrow for a while, but that just tapped against my glasses. try and be cool it's like but tim you're already cool why are you getting an earring i did i had
one in my eyebrow for a while but that just tapped against my glasses so i had to get rid of it which
is that's not cool that's not cool it kicked my monocle kept getting stuck on it
that's right the sleeve of my cardigan just ripped it out one day accidentally and that was the end
of it the the um i mean all of these things are just ripped it out one day accidentally and that was the end of it.
The, I mean, all of these things are funny. I mean, tattoos used to be like that great acts of rebellion
and getting a tattoo, but they're so common now.
They're just like, it is, I guess people, you know,
they don't do it because it's uncool.
It looks cool if people want to do it and get them,
but it's not a massive defiant thing that it once was.
I mean, growing your hair past your collar at our school
was seen as a true act of rebellion.
So it was pretty easy to be a rebel
or writing something on your pencil case or your school bag.
You know, it's,
you've written guns and roses on your school bag.
You know, that's like...
But people also rebel in different ways don't they like some people
rebel by as you get older you kind of rebel by doing the right thing like i'm going to change
my life dramatically and do this or conform or i don't know there's funny ways depending on the
your context you're in but to get a real uh handle on this i i actually phoned my mum who is you know truly rebellious and i asked her
your your mum who is like i was gonna say she's like a sunday school teacher but like she is a
sunday school that's right she sort of talks to everyone like she's teaching them sunday which
is to say she's infinitely kind and excited and... I refuse to believe your mother has ever done anything rebellious.
Well, I got a list here of things that mum did when she was young as a rebel.
Well, like I asked her the question and she immediately blurted out, oh, I lied a lot.
I was a liar.
I used to lie.
And I said, oh, mum, I almost hung up the phone.
I think that's the first time she's ever lied.
Well, I said, what's an example of a lie?
And she said, well, she told one of her teachers at school.
My mum is now 80.
She turned 80 a few months ago.
She said when she was at school, she told the teacher that her dad was a policeman.
He was telling her off and she said, my dad's a policeman.
And she says, isn't that terrible?
She sort of, you know, sort of had to pause for a moment and say, well, I can't believe I told such a big lie.
She also told several other students this lie.
But he wasn't a policeman at all.
He was he he milked cows like he was a farmer in the area.
And I'm sure they would have known that but
do you feel like she was letting it off her chest and like she was relieved to finally like
free herself of this burden no because she said that she had come clean on these many years ago
so they they are right they are past she turned herself into a local police station that's right
i hear you've been impersonating a policeman as your father.
Is that true?
She said she really wanted a perm as well when she was young.
So, she has very straight hair.
Apparently, I've never seen her without a perm or blow wave sort of hair.
So, mum insists she has very straight hair.
She really wanted a perm when she was young.
Right.
And her mum wouldn't let her have a perm.
So, mum says in an act of rebellion, she went out round the house and scratched into the paint, I hate mum, into the side of the house because she was so upset.
Oh.
I know.
I know.
That actually is pretty full on, isn't it?
I mean, a texter you can rub off, but scratching it into the paint.
Oh, gosh.
Was it found?
Like, was this found or, like, did she get in trouble for it when her mum saw this or?
I don't know.
It was probably some piece of like, piece of like a beam under the house or something
that no one ever saw or something.
Well, she said the paint, it was a painted area.
But on the old house, she said, I don't know if she got in trouble for it.
One thing she did get found out for was that she wasn't allowed to wear lipstick.
And she really wanted to wear lipstick for particularly for a little play that she's in.
She was playing someone called Alice Bluegown.
And I said, who's Alice Bluegown?
And she goes, oh, you know, the song.
And I said, no, mum, I don't know the song about Alice Bluegown.
And she goes, oh, we all wanted to be Alice Bluegown.
And I'm like, all all right i'll take your
word for it so alice blue gown seems to have dropped off in popularity in the 75 years since
this happens but she's alice blue gown she used to wear lovely lipstick well i think you were alice
blue gown at book week one year at school weren't you you, man? Oh, I found it. Oh, there you go. I haven't heard it yet, but the lyrics go, I once had a gown.
It was almost new.
Oh, the daintiest thing.
It was sweet Alice Blue.
This sounds like your mum wrote the song.
It does.
It does.
Oh, the daintiest thing.
It was sweet Alice Blue.
With little forget-me-nots placed here and there.
When I had it on.
Oh, I walked on the air
And it wore and it wore and it wore
Till it went and it wasn't no more
Oh, that's a bit nasty.
Well, anyway, mum wanted to dress up as Alice Bluegown
and she wanted to wear lipstick.
And one girl says, come on, we'll put it on you.
Mum's like, you know, no.
And they're like, oh, you can't have it.
You're not allowed.
And mum said, oh, stick it on.
And so, like, she put it on her and she wore it as this big act of defiance.
And then afterwards, you know, her mum confronted her and she said, mum, I had to do it.
I had to do it.
It was like this big moment.
And her mum's response was, oh, well, if you had to, that's fine.
And so it all sort of fell flat, Mum.
I don't think Alice Bluegown is a person.
I think it's a gown and the colour is Alice Blue.
Like, it's like the Fanta shorts.
Alice Blue is a type of blue.
Is that what you're saying?
In my sweet little Alice Bluegown.
It seems to be, yeah.
I once had a gown.
It was almost new.
The daintiest thing.
It was sweet Alice blue.
Oh.
The little silkworms that made silk for that gown just made that much silk and then crawled in the ground.
Because there never was anything like it before.
And I don't care to hope there will be anymore.
And it's gone because it just had to be.
Still, it wears in my memory.
So, it's just remembering this favourite gown.
It sounds like maybe she wore it too much or something.
I'm not sure.
Maybe she was going to sing this song.
They were all singing it or presenting it.
But it was, yeah, it was my sweet Alice Blue gown.
It wasn't a person.
It was like, it was just a song about a gown.
Mum should have made that clearer when she was explaining it.
Well, maybe she didn't know.
I feel deceived.
I feel maybe mum was lying again.
The lying's returned.
Alice Bluegown.
Who knew?
I'm really curious to listen to it now, but I'll save it for later.
Clearly there is a podcast to be made just about your mum's acts of fights and rebellion.
They're way more fun.
What about you?
Can you think of anything?
Did you have a rebel moment?
Not really.
Not that I talk too much about on a podcast.
I remember the first time I, like, defied and stood up to my mum, who was quite a formidable woman.
That didn't end well for me
no no so a bit of an aborted coup was it just it was very it was very much an aborted coup
as my mum drove off to school leaving me behind and me having to figure out how to get to school
on my own oh wow yeah yeah but the but funny thing was, it never occurred to me because
my mum used to drive me to school and she said, oh, I'm not driving you to school then and just
like left. And it never occurred to me that that meant I could have the day off school.
Oh. Like, all I did was panic and think, oh, how am I going to get to school? Like,
I have to get to school. I have to find a different way to get to school. And it was like,
you know, and I was, you know, I was having to figure out, I'd never caught like, you know,
public transport and buses and stuff before
and I was figuring out how do I do it and where do I go?
And I never thought, oh, I'll just stay home and watch Star Wars.
But anyway, that's how unrebellious I was.
Mr. Responsible, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
It is funny how people can see it as a moment of self-definition
and so forth, a big moment where they finally stood up.
And if any youngsters are listening to this podcast,
I want to say that, you know, choose your rebellious moment wisely.
Don't do anything naughty.
That goes for you too, man.
You've not had yours yet.
So I'm just saying when the moment comes.
I mean, it would be quite a funny podcast idea if your whole premise was to always have people like your mum or me you know people who
aren't particularly rebellious and make that the joke and instead of calling it like you know my
rebellious moment call it like rebel without a clue oh yeah yeah and how bad they are like being
a rebel yeah yeah yeah they're just endearing stories of rebellion,
particularly if they were totally sincere in sharing it.
My mum on the phone was like, well, you won't believe this one.
And then she told it to me and she just, you know,
emphasised that she'd changed her ways and so forth.
I don't know if it made the news in Australia,
but it's still an ongoing joke and meme here in the UK.
But the previous Prime Minister, Theresa May, was interviewed, like, when she first came into office.
And they were trying to, you know, put flesh on the bones and show what the woman was like behind the politician.
So, they were asking her, like, very human questions.
And they asked her what, like, the naughtiest or worst thing she'd ever done was.
And she kind of ummed and aahed for a minute and then in the end her answer was talking about how
when she was young her and her friends used to run through fields of wheat i have to confess when
me and my friends sort of used to run through the fields of wheat um the farmers weren't too
pleased about that so so now so it's like this ongoing joke and comedians use it all the time
when you're talking about doing something really bad.
People talk about running through fields of wheat as like the worst thing you can possibly do.
How can we have a prime minister who once ran through a field of wheat?
That sounds like from your mum's Alice Bluegown School of Rebellion.
I remember going one time, this moment where mum was going to have a snooze
and I was riding my bike around and I said to mum,
can I ride down to these friends that we see that's like a few streets away
at the end of a big hill?
And mum said, no, no, you must stay here.
Just ride around the block.
And I was like, I rode around for a while, got bored.
And then I was like, oh, I'm just going to do it.
And I rode down to their house. And so this was a while, got bored. And then I was like, oh, I'm just going to do it. And I rode down to their house.
And so this was a big act of rebellion.
The first thing, you know, the mum down there said, my friend's mum was, does your mum know that you're down here?
And I lied.
And I said, yes.
And then I sort of, I over lied.
Like I went too far.
And I said, in fact, she wants you to go up there and have a cup of tea with her.
Which I thought sounded like such a convincing story.
And of course it was.
It sounds so plausible.
Never quite putting the pieces together that this was going to blow up the whole planet.
You idiot.
So I went inside and played with my friend and sure enough a little
while later my mum appears there and i was like oh how did you know oh how did she find out i was
and that sticks in my mind i had to go and apologize you know mum told me off
now you better go to apologize you know and i had to go and to the other adult and apologize as well but i just remember thinking oh damn it that one little detail if i hadn't said that my plan would have
worked you've reminded me of a rebellious moment from me around that age i don't know if i've told
this story before on the podcast or not but by way of background this was back when people like
employees used to get paid in cash, even like proper salary jobs.
Yeah.
So, every week my dad would come home with like a brown envelope.
He was like a newspaper journalist.
He would come home with an envelope with actual like, you know, big money in it.
Yeah.
Hundreds of dollars, the sort of money I've never seen before.
And that was his like salary.
And it would sometimes be taken to the bank, but there was also like a tin in the pantry
that the money would be put in as like, you know,
petty cash and where the money would be stored
before it was banked.
Yeah, for sure.
So there was always a little tin in our pantry
that had hundreds of dollars in it.
And to a little boy, that's like unimaginable amount of money.
So one day I was eating my dinner
and I didn't like eating vegetables
and my mum was making me finish
my vegetables and my sister had finished and my parents had finished and they were watching TV
shows in the other room but I was sat at the table and not allowed to come and watch TV until I ate
my vegetables and I was just stubbornly refusing to eat my vegetables and just sitting there pushing
them around my plate and being like a stupid little boy at this point when they were like
rubbing my nose in it by watching TV while I had to eat vegetables,
I decided I'm going to run away from home
and like just like have a new life.
So, like, you know, this is just little boy thinking
I'm just going to run away from home.
And I knew to do that, I was going to need money.
So, I went to the pantry
and I took the tin with like a few hundred dollars in it
and sneaked it into my bedroom and hid it under the pillow ready for when I was going to run away when I had my window of opportunity.
And then I went back and sat at the dinner table, like pondering my next move.
I must have, I was tiny.
I don't know how old I was, like six or seven or something.
And then like eventually mum came into the dining room and said, I'm sorry, you don't have to eat your vegetables.
Why don't you- here's a bowl of ice cream and why don't you come and have your ice cream while you watch TV with us?
Which was, like, so lovely and made me so happy.
So, before I went back into the other room to watch TV, I tiptoed back into my bedroom and got the money tin and put it back in the pantry.
Put it back in the pantry.
It's like, I don't have to run away now.
But for, like, two or three minutes, I stole all my family's money.
Wow.
That's like a sliding doors moment, man.
Who knows what would have happened?
I could have been living a life on the streets with $200.
You could have.
Seven years old.
What was I going to do?
I don't know.
All I would have done was buy like i would just bought mixed
lollies i remember that's right which is all you need it's all you need i would have walked
straight to the deli and said how many how much lollies can i buy with this and handed over 200
dollars i remember having an argument with my dad and then like kind of leaving like i'm off
and just going over to the park and then cooling down and then you know just go home it's just boring like it's
just like oh i just want to go home now so you actually did it you technically ran away from
home for a few minutes for a few minutes yeah yeah yeah those were tough days tell me what was it like
on the streets on that you should make a film about that man my my life on the streets You should make a film about that, man
My life on the streets
My life on the streets
Three minutes at the park
On Henry Street, to be precise
Yeah, those were the days
We could have met up and pooled our funds
I would have had, you know, a couple of hundred dollars
Oh, that's true, that's true
We could have, who knows what we could have done
We would have had a lot of KFC.
We could have, yep.
Back in those days.
We'd still be going.
Living in a bucket.
All right.
So my rebel moment.
So people, again, I'd love to hear some rebel moments on Reddit
if people want to share them.
Oh, yeah.
And also tell us about the time that you didn't run away from home
because it seems like all kids have one of these stories.
What's the most trivial thing that made you nearly run away from home?
Mine was having to eat the vegetables.
I can't remember what mine was about.
Yeah, it was probably you wanting to get an earring.
It was you sticking up for Han Solo and Princess Leia, and your dad's like, no, they're rebels.
That's right.
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Oh, yeah.
I thought a fun thing to do, if you call up, can you call up your Storyblocks website?
Yeah.
One thing I noticed quite often is when they use like generic footage of people doing something
like, you know, using a laptop or walking down the street and stuff that you might need for your
video, they sometimes describe the person and they often use words like, you know, attractive
or beautiful or handsome and stuff.
So I think do a search on the word handsome and let's have a look at the results that
come up.
Handsome.
Here they are.
I hope you've got the same results as me.
I don't know if you have or not.
What's your first result there?
I have a portrait of handsome.
He's a guy looks like Buddy Franklin, footballer. I don't know if you have or not. What's your first result there? I have a portrait of Handsome.
He's a guy who looks like Buddy Franklin, a footballer.
You may not know who that is, seeing you've disengaged from AFL. Is that the guy who's got a grey coat on and there's blurry people walking behind him?
That's right.
That's him.
Is he handsome?
Yeah.
Yeah, he's handsome.
Yeah.
Yeah?
He's not very handsome, but he is handsome.
Yes. He he is handsome. Yes.
He is pretty handsome.
Well, I'm not very good at judging handsome, to be perfectly honest.
But if he walked in the room, I think, you know, I think your wife would say that's a good looking guy that just walked in the room.
Good looking.
He's good looking, but he's good looking the same as handsome.
That's a good question.
He's good looking, but he's good looking the same as handsome.
That's a good question.
I think the third video result in this search is interesting because it's a very beautiful piece of video of, like,
a man putting on a suit jacket in front of a window,
but he's completely silhouetted.
Yeah.
But the caption says,
silhouette of attractive, handsome, you know, man.
But how do we know he's handsome?
He could be, like, ugly.
It's still a beautiful piece of video
But I don't know where handsome comes from there
I'm not sure about that one
No, that's interesting
It is a handsome silhouette
There's not a lot of variation between silhouettes though, is there?
But if you go down 1, 2, 3, 4
To the 5th row of search results
There's a bearded man with a ponytail
I'm going to go out and say
I don't think he qualifies as handsome
No, he's not handsome Have you ever seen a handsome man with a beard i mean let's be honest
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there. Handsome is a nice word, isn't it? It is. It's a handsome word. My mum uses that word. If
I'm dressed up in a suit, she goes, oh, you look handsome um she won't say it at any other time so it's got something to do with the suit i think it's a handsome suit but um she won't say
oh you're good looking um did you i i didn't hear you give the um did you give the url go to yeah
and like three times sorry do you want to do you want me to do it again only if only if you don't think
you've done it and so if you have then that's fine i've definitely done it look well i have
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oh what was my idea hang on i had a good idea and it's completely fallen out of my head
hang on it's uh oh yes i know what it is. So, my idea is called Frequently Asked Questions.
Oh, yeah.
And the idea of this is someone comes on the show, like your guest, who works like in some...
Has something interesting about them or has a job or they're just like a human.
And they tell you what the three or four questions they get asked the most in life are.
And then they talk about the answers.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, this is a very good idea.
Yeah.
This is a good idea because it happens all the time anyway, but you're shining a light on it in a particular way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I was talking to someone this morning who's a TV presenter.
And she told me the questions she gets asked the most are, do you have to buy your own
clothes that you wear on TV? Do you do your own makeup? And how did you get into the job? How does
one become a TV presenter? So, they were the questions she told me. I also spoke to a yoga
teacher this morning. She said the question she gets asked the most is how bendy and flexible are
you? All right. Yeah. So, yeah, fair enough i guess i guess you can that's one of
the few questions you can answer through movement rather than words that's right you just go this
flexible that's right the thing that's the person that comes to my mind when you mention that is um
a pilot a pilot is a is a classic job where suddenly the whole table at a dinner wants to ask lots of questions, you know.
Really?
Yeah, yeah. Well, maybe not for you, but this person is interesting.
And I remember being at a dinner and sitting and it was sort of like a function.
So there were several people around a table and he was being asked questions and telling lots of really interesting stories.
And he's an over um an international pilot so
there's all the typical things about you know do you normally have to eat a different meal to the
other pilots is that true and where's the area that you sleep is that really comfortable like
first class oh yeah yeah just all those sorts of little things you know and um yeah and i remember
hearing them once and then it was one of those dinners where it's like okay everyone you need
to for dessert we're going to move to a different table and we're going to ask, you know, meet some more people.
But I ended up on the same table again.
And so people just like asked him other questions.
So tell us about it.
And I just listened again, like, oh, I kind of know the answer to this, but this is still interesting.
So they asked the same questions all over again.
Yeah, different people ask the same questions.
And he just sort of was there and, you know, his long suffering wife, you know, hearing them all for the millionth time is just sort of smiling along and, you know, I was thinking, oh, wow.
I mean, one of my best friends is an international pilot.
And so, I guess I have heard him get asked those questions a lot, like, where do you sleep and things like that.
But because I'm really into aviation, I quite like hanging out with him.
But that's because I like asking really, really super detailed questions.
I guess I don't ask him typical questions but what about you man the question i get asked
the most is probably how do i make money because when people find out i'm like a youtuber like
they'll ask me what do you do i make youtube audio and then they'll probably ask me what i
make videos about you know and then once once that's dealt with, once the really superficial
stuff's dealt with, the question everyone wants to know is how can you make YouTube videos
for a living and earn money?
And then this is when you say, I just steal it from a tin in my mum's pantry.
I sell blank T-shirts of Tim Hine quotes.
They've become hugely popular.
In fact, so much so that I gave a talk one time and I knew I was going to be asked it.
So, I did my presentation.
They were like PowerPoint slides.
And then at the end, I said, you know, there's a slide that sort of said, you know, has anyone got any questions?
And someone put up their hand and asked
how do you make money at which point i pressed the button and went to the next slide which was
all about how i make money all right because i knew that was what i knew that was what was coming
next so yeah yeah i mean there are different hats as well for example you are a parent which i am
not so that you must have like when you're wearing dad hat, there must be, like, questions.
And also, you know, you have a job in, you know, academia and stuff like that.
So, there's a bunch of questions I'm sure you deal with there.
What I would be interested to know and where I'm kind of going with this podcast is some of the other things you've done.
For example, I know you used to work in a petrol station, pouring petrol.
I know you used to work in, like,, pouring petrol. I know you used to work in like a music shop selling CDs and records and stuff.
What were some of the questions you used to get in those jobs?
They're almost more interesting to me.
Like what was the thing when someone walks into a music store and you're the guy, you know, stacking shelves and working at the counter and stuff like that.
What did you get asked the most?
stuff like that what did you get asked the most well most of the time you're you're you have to go up and you're trained to ask opening questions you know and like questions that engage the people
like hello and then you know who are you looking for and that kind of stuff so most of the time
if someone wants to talk to someone in a music store it's because they're a bit lost and confused
like anyone who knows what they like i would never ask the question of anyone because you just know
what you're looking for and where to find it and how it is and so forth but most of the time it's like
you know that celine dion song have you got that celine dion song and you say well that's
both the titanic soundtrack and her latest album let's talk about love you know it's that kind of
but so it's a simple it's but do you, will you ever get people just coming in going,
what should I buy for my son?
And they've got like no idea. Like, you know, they just know they have to buy music.
Like.
Yeah.
That's a dream.
Like it's a dream.
Right.
To be asked your opinion.
Because then you feel like you're really working in a record store, you know.
Like, like you'd like, yeah, this is, we're sitting around making top five lists in like.
Yeah.
In, in like high fidelity and cool
yeah that's right yeah so what do you think and i'm like well let me show you some good bands you
know like here's what i think they'll like but that happens like once or twice a year and and
the rest of it is you know like i'm looking for the soundtrack to that Adam Sandler film.
And you're like, gosh, what am I doing?
You know.
I'll tell you what was funny.
You sell truckloads of things you've never heard before.
Yeah.
Like so suddenly the Gypsy Kings you've never heard of.
And then suddenly someone comes in.
And suddenly we're selling like 30 CDs a day day of the gypsy kings and you're like
what the heck who are they where have the gypsy kings come from would that ever make you discover
new music is there any music you discovered because you worked in a music store and you
were selling loads and loads of this album and you thought i should listen to this if i'm selling so
many of it and it turned out to be amazing there was one singer whose name i've gone blank on his name andre
oh he's the blind singer what's his name andrea bocelli i'd never heard of him and then suddenly
we're selling truckloads of of his cd and at the time i didn't like it but since i've come to like
it and listen to it from time to time yeah but that was one of the ones where suddenly it exploded
the gypsy kings i've never got into one of the ones where suddenly it exploded. The Gypsy Kings I've never got into.
One of the things I love doing the most in the record store
was going around and just finding classic and great records
that we didn't have the full collection of.
So I'd just go over and just be grossing through and we'd go,
oh, we don't have Michael Jackson's Bad and just go and order it.
And we'd, oh, well, we don't have, you know,
this old Mid midnight oil album and
this new midnight oil like just going just basically just being able to reference under
the assumption that i know every record by every person and we don't have this one and this one and
this one and just going and ordering so it was almost like a constant um audit of the whole
collection and i quite enjoyed doing that what about as a what about as a dad are there questions
i mean obviously you don't get asked the same question over and over again by your kids or Of the whole collection. And I quite enjoyed doing that. What about as a dad? Are there questions?
I mean, obviously, you don't get asked the same question over and over again by your kids.
Or maybe you do. But as a parent, what do you expect as questions?
What are frequently asked questions or frequently asked types of questions?
Well, with other parents, there's the common questions of, you know, do you have any kids?
And, oh, yeah.
And, you know, what age?
And, you know, then what school do they go to or where's the are you looking for a connection
point oh yeah me too you know there's those sorts of questions um around their age from the girls i
get asked questions the same questions over and over often like okay what's your favorite color
why will they why will they ask you that multiple times? Because they can't remember? I think they just want to know if it's changed.
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or what's your favourite? Yeah, yeah.
Because they're thinking about colours because they're, you know, colouring in and doing
all sorts of stuff. What is your favourite colour, Tim?
My favourite colour... I've told you this a million times, Brady.
You don't have to keep asking.
Do you want to know what mine is?
I do.
It's Alice Blue.
My favourite colour is British Racing Green.
I love that really dark green.
Nice.
Nice.
Do you know the story behind British Racing Green?
No. I did know know but i've forgotten but it's like it comes from ireland even though it's like associated with england
and it's because of something that was it's because of something that was held in ireland
and the green was used in relation to racing like a race in? Yes, yes. And this is a motor race?
Oh, I used to know the answer to this because it was in a video I made.
Hang on, I'm trying to look it up.
So you've forgotten the content of videos you've made.
Yes, here it is, here it is.
Yeah, of course, it happens all the time.
It's all coming back to me now because the video I made was in a clock museum.
It originated with the 1903 Gordon Bennett Cup, which was held in Ireland, then still part of the UK.
As motor racing was illegal in England, as a mark of respect, the British cars were painted shamrock green.
That's where it started.
So, this is cars, obviously, not motorbikes.
Yes.
Yes, I believe so.
Yeah.
It's a nice colour. It's a nice colour.
It's a nice colour.
Looks classic and quality and beautiful.
Do you have a favourite colour yourself?
I used to say silver was my favourite colour to the point where once I was having a discussion
with my dad and I told him that if I was at the Olympics, I'd rather win a silver medal
than a gold medal because I think silver looks better.
And he just looked at me and said, when you grow up,
you won't think that anymore.
He was right.
I would rather win a gold medal at the Olympics.
But these days I'd say blue.
I quite like blue.
Can you be more specific?
Yeah, Alice Blue.
All right.
Here we go.
What is Alice Blue?
I'm looking that up too.
Oh, it's a pale tint of azure that was favoured by Alice Roosevelt Longworth, daughter of Theodore Roosevelt, which sparked a fashion sensation in the United States. The hit song Alice Bluegown, inspired by Longworth's signature gown, premiered in Harry Tierney's 1919 Broadway musical Irene.
The musical was made into a film in 1940,
starring Anna Neagle and Ray Milland.
The colour is specified by the United States Navy
for use in insignia and trim on the US Navy vessels
named for Theodore Roosevelt.
Alice Blue is also one of the original 1987 X-11 colour names,
which became the basis for colour description in web authoring.
There you go.
It's like, you know, official.
Its hex triplet number is hash F0F8FF.
I thought so when I saw it.
I thought that's what it is.
So, I get that a lot.
I'll also get the question, apart from British racing green, dad, what is your favourite colour?
What's your second favourite colour?
That's right.
What do you say to that?
Usually I say...
Dark British racing green.
That's right.
I usually say black, like I love black and black t-shirts and stuff, but that's kind of a bit of a cop-out.
But I pulled out actually the other night, I said, oh, and she said, no,
what was your favourite colour when you were young?
And I said, well, I kind of liked a really dark blue with hot pink
over the top of it, you know, like, and she said, you know, didn't quite.
And she goes, but that makes purple.
They all blur.
And I said, no, no, no, no, like together.
And the example I pulled out to show her was the cocktail soundtrack.
So I Googled the cocktail soundtrack.
It said like that.
That's two colours.
You're cheating there.
Yeah, I know.
You're rubbish.
You're rubbish.
Do you think you could sustain a podcast all about your favourite colour?
My favourite colour. My third favourite colour. Next week we'll get to my favourite. could sustain a podcast all about favorite color my favorite color my third favorite color next
week next week my third favorite color or just or just call it my third favorite color and you have
a new guest on each week but they're not allowed to even mention what their first and second
favorite colors are and that remains always like forbidden information and they just talk for ages about their third
favourite colour. Just a colour that they moderately
like. Yeah.
And you have to die not knowing what like the two
colours they like more are.
I quite like that.
Next time I meet a pilot
and they're thinking, oh, here we go,
I know what the question's going to be,
the first thing I'm going to ask them is,
what's your third favourite colour?
Don't you want to know where I sleep or what I eat or how awesome I am?
No, no, just your third favourite colour.
What's your third favourite colour?
And then they'll say, well, my first favourite.
You go, no, no, no.
No.
Don't say it.
I don't want to know put
your finger up to their lips no i couldn't give a stuff what your first and second favorite colors
are that's your third third favorite color it would be ironic if your third favorite color was
bronze oh yeah nice very nice that would be a good answer That would be a cool thing to say
If you were one of the people that was presenting the medals at the Olympics
And you get to the third person
You go, what's your third favourite colour?
They go, bronze
Your lucky day, here you go
If you were at the Olympics
And you were handing out medals
And you didn't get to hand over the gold or the silver,
but you were handing over the bronze,
what would you say to the person as you handed them the medal
and put it over, like, their head?
It'd be difficult to think of it, wouldn't it?
Like, well, better than fourth or something like that.
Yeah.
Better luck next year or here you go, here's your medal.
Here you go.
It's all right.
Here you go.
Here you go.
Do you even want this?
You'd say this is probably a bigger honour for me than it is for you,
isn't that right?
I got asked to present a medal at the Olympics.
That's a pretty high honour.
I got asked to present a medal at the Olympics.
That's a pretty high honour.
Imagine if that was like your greatest moment was like handing over a bronze medal at the Olympics.
Like, I guess that'd be all right.
I'd do it if they asked me.
It'll never happen to me.
So, questions?
We're giving that podcast idea a thumbs up?
You like that one? I think it is good.
Say Steven Spielberg.
What would be the first three questions you'd ask Steven Spielberg?
Do you know what?
I think this is one of the few podcast ideas where famous people would be less interesting on the show than non-famous people.
That's a good point.
I think it's more interesting to hear what a painter or someone with a normal job gets asked than someone
super famous because when you meet someone super famous they that you can kind of guess what they're
going to get asked or they're not going to be asked interesting questions because there's like
they have an aura or they're or people are intimidated by them and you're not going to get
you're just going to get oh i really like your film or what are you working on or what what are
you doing here what's your favorite film of the ones you've made?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think super famous people generally,
their frequently asked questions would be more boring.
I'd be more interested to hear what people ask a bricklayer.
You know, what's the first thing a bricklayer gets asked?
Hmm, I'm interested to hear that.
I don't really care what Steven Spielberg gets asked a lot because it's going to be it probably is oh my goodness what
are you doing here yeah what are you doing here in my restaurant i tell you one night there's
is as you know an interviewer in australia called andrew denton who's had a bunch of different shows
interviewing people over the years he's a very good interviewer with good research but i have
to say um one of the best interviews
and most fascinating ones I've ever seen who'd done
was with three taxi drivers, just chatting to them.
And I know this is about asking them questions,
not asking what questions they get asked,
but taxi drivers are infinitely fascinating people
and have loads of stories, of course, and so forth.
And it was much better than sitting through
another interview with Russell Crowe or whoever. I'm'm terrible i ask the same question of a taxi driver an uber driver or
generally taxi driver all the time which is um have you got a long shift today or tonight or
you're at the end of your shift that's always my opening salvo are you are you busy how what time
are you on till yeah i like asking them what the biggest fare they've ever done is.
What's the furthest they've ever taken someone?
Oh, yeah.
That is always an interesting story because it's usually a story to go with it.
The person they picked up at the airport who wanted to go to Scotland, you know.
Do you know, I was in a taxi the other day and I was looking at my phone and I suddenly felt self-conscious.
Like, here am I rudely just looking on my phone you know at email or whatever
and not talking to the taxi driver and i was wondering for those who have been taxi drivers
for longer than 10 or 11 years whether they've that's a massive change that's happened when
people used to get into cabs before and after smartphones because surely has it become a more
lonely job yeah yeah you don't take the time to have a conversation,
either out of politeness or interest.
Maybe people just don't even bother anymore.
Say Tim texted me and said,
I wonder how lonely my taxi driver is right now,
who's sitting in the front of the...
That's right.
I just tweeted, here's a hypothetical.
Do taxi drivers.
I've learned something else about you tonight you like alice blue that's lovely
new favorite color alice blue gown gosh she was a she was a she was a great lady alice blue gown
who's going to be the one to tell your mom that alice blue gown's not a person
no i think i i i think i got the wrong end of that stick to be perfectly honest
but i have written it here as Alice as a first name
and then blue gown as like with a hyphen in between.
So I got that totally wrong.
And I'm sure once I clarify it, she'll then explain it to me again.
I'll go, yes, no, I understand now.
Well, I'm sorry I miss that conversation