The Unmade Podcast - 37: The Queen's Podcast

Episode Date: December 23, 2019

Tim and Brady discuss the Queen, Keys to the Planet, a great composer, the least famous people alive, and Sale of the Century. Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to hover.com/unmade - promo code UNMADE at checkout - https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/eecj7a USEFUL LINKS The Queen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II The Crown on Netflix - https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80025678 Olivia Colman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Colman The Pope on Twitter - https://twitter.com/Pontifex DJ Dubble Dubz - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob0c0ifbTzA Key to the City of Adelaide - https://www.cityofadelaide.com.au/about-council/civic-events-recognition/keys-to-the-city/ John Williams music - https://amzn.to/2Q9tw6B John Williams on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/artist/3dRfiJ2650SZu6GbydcHNb CS Lewis - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._S._Lewis 21 Today - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx1D2asFSig Sale of the Century - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1zv6yBJFPk Alfred Huang - https://cbnsa.com.au/?team=dr-alfred-huang-am Check us out on iTunes and elsewhere... Details here: https://www.unmade.fm/how-to-listen/

Tim, can you take your clock off the wall? Put it on the table. It's like I'm stopping time itself, you know. I have to admit, sometimes it does feel like time has stood still when we're talking. Well, I have an idea and I think it is a kind of fun idea and it's a little bit off what we normally do. So I've been wondering about whether you would rule it invalid or not. Oh, okay. I think it might be right and I've been sitting with it for a few weeks.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, I'm intrigued by the idea. Well, go on then. Do you want me to go first? Put me out of my misery? Yeah, you go. This idea would be called The Queen Isn't Dead. Right.

It's a bit of a play on the seminal album by the Smiths, right, from the 80s, The Queen Is Dead. Right. But this would be a podcast by the Queen. So, this may fall into the category of podcasts that probably won't get made from the ones we do talk about. But I think it's kind of a category of impossible podcasts or you know ones that you would love to see happen but a pure fantasy but i think it would be a stroke of genius if the queen just started doing a podcast not not a normal podcast like you know an official speech kind of podcast. But just if suddenly it appeared, her speaking and reflecting, you know, like we do. Like, unbelievably frankly about stuff that's happened that week.

Things that's going on in her life. And particularly stuff that's in the TV series The Crown that's wrong. Like, she just started pulling it apart. Just like does a big takedown. Yeah. Oh, that's rubbish. Just addressing, but really detailed stuff as well. Like going, there's no way I would have worn that dress.

I always sat on the left at those meetings. That's right. That's right. Just starts commentating on the world around her Or imagine if she loved the documentary And she was just like oh my god I was awesome last night Did you see how I told the Prime Minister where to go

Replayed that scene over and over Yeah I can't wait to see what happens next I can't believe Olivia Colman's playing me I was so flattered That's right Sorry I had to stand up for a sec there man Yeah that's right I can't believe Olivia Colman's playing me. I was so flattered. That's right.

Sorry, I had to stand up for a sec there, man. Yeah, that's right. That's right. You always do that. Tim always stands up when we talk about the Queen. It's just... It's a mark of respect. Would she have, like, a co-host? I thought about that, but I couldn't think of anyone.

So I like the idea of her just sort of doing this off her own bat Just getting a microphone out and going Well, hello, yes, it's me again, you know Like a morbus Yeah, just like, almost like a vlog Like where they just like, those makeup vloggers Just talk inanely to the camera for like 30 minutes Here's what's in my handbag.

It doesn't even address like major topics. Like never mentions Brexit. But go. Oh, Brexit snooze. Goes into great detail about the way she makes coffee. Oh, what a snooze fest Brexit is. But did you see I'm a celebrity? Get me out of here last night.

Ant and Dec are the bomb. I wondered which one of us would be the first to slip into a Queen of Fresh. I'm so pleased it was you. I imagine if she had like guests, but they were always like other monarchs. Like today I have the King of Thailand. Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought she could have the Pope. Some of you.

I've got Francis. You'll know him as the Pope. Say hello, Francis. Hello. The Pope's there going, I can't get this microphone to work. I've taken the clock off the mantelpiece. I've got my Yeti working. And, like, they haven't told any of their, like, PR people or minders about it.

They've just gone and done it on their own. I'm going to count to ten. One is going to count to ten. You certainly threw me a curveball calling it The Queen Isn't Dead, but I'm not sure I would call it that. What would you call it? I thought about Anarchy in the UK as another fun title too. I would call it just something like HRH or something, you know,

for Her Royal Highness or something, or like, you know, or just like Liz. Liz. I guess I like the idea of that. Like if she did an official, it's a bit like those official Twitter accounts, you know, from, you know, Kensington Palace or from the Pope. And they're also formal. Yeah. I kind of like the idea of it having, you know, like a bit of a pop culture influence

title or the real crown. That's what you could call it or something like that. Breakfast with Liz. It would be it would be it would liz cast liz cast or yeah tea with liz but i think there would be wouldn't it be a master stroke just to do it oh i'd be totally into it particularly if she was really frank what if it was announced right imagine this it's announced okay the queen's doing a podcast the first one's coming out on monday and everyone gets excited and you and i are excited because you know the queen's doing a podcast and we tune in and like download the first episode and it turns out her idea for a podcast is each week she talks about ideas for

podcasts that she thinks should be made it's the queen doing it she like just does our idea and it just takes off obviously because it's the queen and everyone. She like just does our idea. And it just takes off, obviously, because it's the queen. And everyone's like, she's a genius. What a great idea. And we're like here going, no, that was our idea. That was our idea. The queen stole our idea. That would be, yeah, that would be very frustrating.

Well, no, it'd just be cool. It'd just be cool. Just hang on a sec. And she actually starts lifting all our ideas. Like the first episode, she talks about one's idea to do a podcast about Groundhog Day. She just says Groundhog Day. Sounds like my life. All right. It would be cool to hear

her favourite movies and, you know, albums. Like really, you know, stuff she plays around the house. I wonder if the Queen ever listens to podcasts. I don't know. Well, obviously, I don't know, man. Other than, like, when she has to do, like, official things, like, you know, she's, like, going to the opening of things or she's, you know, doing some official occasion.

Do you think the Queen has ever worn headphones? Like, you mean just like a Walkman? I reckon she may have. Like, earbuds or yeah or headphones yeah i reckon she would have i reckon she would have gone for a walk and put something on surely you reckon it's hard to imagine isn't it but i'm gonna put it out there i don't think the queen has ever worn headphones except at official occasions where you know oh your royal highness this is our special you know audio units that you're opening and she'll put them on for like you know oh yes very nice thank you very much other than that that's right she would have worn ear muffs in the snow and oh yeah of course yeah and she would have worn and on like an aircraft carrier or you know

plane taking off put these on your majesty you know you know. But that's different. That's ear muffs. So that's for warmth, not for high-quality sound. It's not like she's got, you know, beats in her ear. I can't find a picture of her wearing. I haven't found one yet, but. Check her personal Instagram, man. Oh, yeah. I'll just text her.

Anyway, good idea, man. A podcast by the Queen's good. She's such an enigmatic figure, isn't she? Like, there's really no one on earth quite like her in that sense. Just the, she's such an intriguing figure in that regard, which is why a drama with lots of fiction in it like The Crown is obviously so popular as well, filling in the blanks of the bits and pieces that we would find interesting.

Are you enjoying The Crown? Yeah, I have been enjoying it, except this new series. I don't know. I've watched three episodes and I've not gotten into them. That may be just a bit weary at the end of the day. But I do enjoy it, I have to say. Yeah, yeah. My wife thinks Olivia Colman's overrated as an actress,

which is an unbelievably scandalous thing to say in the UK. Yeah, well. That's almost like saying something bad about the Queen herself. But she thinks she's a bit overrated. I think that she's a very endearing character. Like when she was Rev's wife, I really enjoyed her as a character. She's a very likeable person, a bit like Tom Hanks. You kind of think he's a great actor because he's such a great guy.

I don't absolutely love her as the Queen, that's for sure. I mean, the irony is my wife has met Olivia Colman. Oh, really? Yeah. She didn't say she was not a good person, by the way. She just thinks she's a bit overrated as an actress. Yeah. She is very much in the moment, isn't she?

An actress of the moment. Oh, she's like, she's like, the queen is like just riding on her coattails. That's right. It's really. I wonder if the palace will do any tie-ins to capitalise on the crown. They've got this big banner on the front of Buckingham Palace saying, as seen in the crown. That also would be just a really humorous, great PR trick.

You know what I mean? If they just suddenly hung this. People would love it. That would be so a really humorous, great PR trick. You know what I mean? If they just suddenly hung this. That would, people would love it. That would be so funny. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that's really the royal family style to go with that gag. No, I know. The gags are not their thing.

Although they all went on. Also, the thing is, when you're the royal family, you have to ride above that stuff. And like doing it once is funny, but then you're forever, you've lowered've lowered yourself a peg forever yeah so yeah the key is to never do it what do you think when these important people go into social media like when the pope starts a twitter account and stuff like that i find it pretty inane actually and well for a long time this is where donald trump is the massive exception for a long time they treated it like the an ultra-safe Dorothy Dixer question at a press conference. Like they just make something.

And Barack Obama kind of still does this. They're just all – they state the bleeding obvious. And even the Pope – and I've got some respect for the Pope, but there's – you know what I mean? He doesn't say anything that makes me go, oh, wow, that really makes me think. It's just sort of very general. Doesn't he always tweet things like, you know, go out into the world and be lovely and stuff? It's always like, you know, like platitudes, isn't it?

That's right. Yeah. They feel like ultra safe platitudes. And I want to hear a bit more meat. I want more other stuff. I want to see like a picture of his dinner. Like, you know, take a photo of you. Like stuff like that from the Pope.

A big selfie from the balcony with all the thousands of people below. And he's there giving it the, hey, look at me. Check out the crowd. If he turned around and did a selfie with the crowds, that would be another moment. I guess they're all managed by other people. That's the thing, isn't it? And it's often with politicians too, which is the unique thing by Donald Trump is they actually dare to say things even if you don't agree with what he says. And he does it himself, obviously.

Or he employs really bad spellers. That's right. That's right. Who else do you think would be a great guest for the Queen? Oh, I would like the Queen to come on our podcast. Well, this is true. Because she could use that to promote her own podcast. You know, today we've got a really special guest.

She's got her own podcast out, people. You should all check it out. Would you put a link to it in the notes? Yeah. Oh, well, there you go. At the end, I'd be like, well, thanks for coming on the show, Queen. We'll link to your podcast in the show notes. Check it out, everyone.

And I'm pretty sure she'd get a few views from that. Like, there'd be... She would. She would. I think she'd be good for her. I'd like to know what her ideas were for a podcast. Like, you know, I wonder if she'd be able to break free of the world she lives in. Like, I wouldn't be like, well, I've had an idea for a podcast all about expensive paintings.

That's right. You wonder if she might want to do one that's related to, you know, hip hop or something like that. That's just a graffiti, New York graffiti from the 1970s. New York graffiti presented by the Queen. She does like a documentary with Channel 5. All about American graffiti. That would be good. This is a wonderful piece.

I love his tag. You see the colours are representative. And let's move over to this next train carriage. Whoops. This is one of my favourite artists, DJ Double Dubs. DJ Double Dubs. That's just what came into my head. DJ Double Dubs.

Obviously spelt with a Z No, my tag was Rush Rush, this is named after Ian Rush from Liverpool It did come from Ian Rush, the footballer But it does look cool as a tag I even had a tag that I used to practice on bits of paper When we all thought doing tags was cool What would the Queen do if she was a graffiti artist? Do you think she'd just go around and put like stamps on everything?

Like first class British stamps? She signs her name Elizabeth R, doesn't she? She does, yes. Yeah. So that's pretty cool. And her signature looks almost indistinguishable from her mother's. I've seen her signature many times because of things I do at the Royal Society. Oh, yeah.

And hers and the Queen Mother's signature are like practically the same. Oh, right. Okay. That's a cool tag, Elizabeth R. Maybe the R stands for rush and she's giving like a little. I think it's like, stands for renegade. Yes. Or rules.

Elizabeth rules. Elizabeth rules. Okay. Should we do an ad? Yes, let's do an ad. This episode of the Unmade Podcast has been brought to you by Hover. Man, you're sounding

very formal there. Well, I was getting in like, you know, royal mode. You were. I wonder if the Queen would do sponsor reads. You just do ads. That's great well one's podcast has been brought to you by hover if you need a domain why don't you check out hover you can get 10 off hover by going to hover.com slash unmade she'd have something witty like

i have a domain it's known as the. However, you would like your own domain. So, if you would like a domain, whatever it is, whatever you're doing, if you're a monarch and you need, like, you know, a new domain for your castle or something like that, or your new podcast, if you want to get, you know, lizrules.fm. Is lizrules.fm available on Hover? Let me check. I don't know.

I was just going to look up and see what you can get for the queen. I'm going to see if lizrules.fm, because I've decided that's the name of her podcast now. Liz Rules. Liz Rules. So the queen herself could go right now to Hover. And yes, it is available, lizrules.fm. She could add it to her cart.

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I've looked up queen and there's queen.app, which is $1,000, or queen.blog, which is $13,000. Yeah, but they're like really expensive ones. You know what else you can get? But for $10.99, you can get queen.me.uk. Wow. You can even get the UK one get queen.me.uk wow you can even get the UK one queen.me.uk how has how has the queen not bought that yet I don't know the queen clearly does not use hover and she is missing a trick was she well after this I well yeah I think so queen.money queen.mortgage

queen.photos is only $21.99. Queen.photos is a great one. Here's Queen.webcam. She's obviously not interested in it. Hello. This one's for John in Coventry. Hello, John in Coventry. Thanks for tuning into my webcam. Basically, this is a podcast by the one person on earth who doesn't need any more media attention or like she has blanket coverage on the globe.

And we've decided, hey, here's another little area that she could branch out into. Queen.yoga is available if she wants to, to you know it's never too late to you know queen dot family there's a lot of good queen domains available there are so i encourage you to consider one of them but consider them through hover you know if the queen started using hover and as her official supplier of domain names i wonder if they would get one of those like official like seals like official supplier to the royal family thing that companies get when they're like. Because, you know, as far as I know, she hasn't got an official supplier of domain names at this stage. So the people at Hover should probably try and jump on that bandwagon.

They should. Although I think she'd pronounce it Hoover. Like just. Yeah. And they wouldn't correct it because I'd just be so glad for the publicity Let's change the company name On that note, let's do An idea from me

Oh Okay If we must Well, we don't have to I mean, at this point people can stop listening Because they know it's going to be one of my ideas And that's like, you know That comes with certain baggage

My idea It's called Keys to the Planet. Right. A lot of cities have this tradition of when someone from that city does, like, a good thing or just anything, but it's a rare thing. They will decide to bestow upon that person the keys or the key to the city. Yes. Like, it's like, you know, you're from Adelaide,

you've had all this great success, we're going to award you the key to Adelaide. Yes. It's done very rarely. It's like a, you know, a special thing. My idea is for a podcast and each week you choose a human being who you just think has just deserves the key to the planet. So, it's kind of like the ultimate award for just having done something. But it's like, it's non-specific.

So, it's not like, you know know nobel prizes that have these certain categories and criteria and the academy awards and all there's all these different awards this is like just an award where you just pick a person who you think you know what you deserve it the whole world should honor you you've done something that's impacted the whole world but i don't want it to be like too worthy and too much like you know the nobel peace prize i do want it to be kind of a bit fun and quirky. And so I imagined you wanted to have an example of someone who I would award the key to the planet to. So I have decided who my first awardee would be.

Oh, who? Are you excited to hear who it's going to be? Well, I'm humbled just to be nominated, to be honest, Brad. It's not you. Okay. Not yet. not the first episode i think we have to have a rule that you and i because we're the hosts can't win it well that's probably that's probably the wise thing yeah or we just take it as a given that we would win it like you know well we just know we'll get honorary ones when we retire yeah because who is you who comes to mind then with your category here is the first person that i'm going to award the key to the planet to hang on let me call this

person's wikipedia page so i've got a bit more information to hand i am going to award the key to the planet to a gentleman who was born on the 8th of fe 1932 in Floral Park, New York. 32 in Floral Park, New York. The person to whom I'm awarding a key to the planet is John Towner Williams. Wow. The American composer, conductor, pianist. John Williams. He's older than I thought.

John Williams. Wow. He's 87 years old. He has composed the scores for Star Wars, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Superman, E.T., the Indiana Jones series, the Jaws films, Jurassic Park, the Harry Potter theme, the Home Alone films, I guess, too. Just think about that, Tim. Star Wars.

Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Superman. E.T. Indiana Jones Jaws Jurassic Park Harry Potter Jurassic Park. Harry Potter. This man, his work is like, his fingerprints are like on my brain and have been since I was a little boy and for people all over the world a lot of these bits

of music like i think it's because of him these things are great like for example like harry potter maybe he you know et maybe they kind of he just rode along on the coattails of yeah his music made star wars yeah it made jaws yes definitely jaws yeah definitely jaws in fact an argument Yeah. It made. Jaws. Yes, definitely Jaws. Yeah. Definitely Jaws. In fact, an argument could be made, it's not a very scary shark without the music. But the music is also classic. You know, how many times as kids in the pool would you, you know what I mean, put your hand like a fin of a shark and make the sound. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many times have you done Indiana Jones or Star Wars? Like, these things are just, like, superb.

This guy, what a legacy. What a legacy. And in a really good way by making beautiful, nice things. And key to the planet, John Williams. Key to the planet. It does sound ridiculous. So, a couple of things come to mind. On the concept itself, I want to get back to John Williams in a second,

but on the concept itself, normally it's a city, right? So there's a mayor. A mayor's giving it. We don't really have a mayor of the world. So who would give the award? Would it be all the cities would vote? Me. No, just me.

My podcast. So it's me doing it. I decide. So you're the mayor. Yeah, that's right's right okay i'm the boss of the world now we've clarified that important detail getting back to john williams so yeah i i agree i mean i i really love there there are two of his soundtracks that i really love i really love actually several i love the indiana j Jones music. I think that is fantastic. It's so much. Yeah.

It's so joyous and it's so fun and it's just magnificent. I also really love the Jurassic Park theme. I think it's a fantastic theme. Yeah. I know you and I have both owned this soundtrack in the past and I've still got it on cassette in the back of the shed somewhere. It's on my rotation. I sometimes will still listen to it who will ever forget that music playing as that as that wonderful pterodactyl flew into the sunset at the end of the first

who cannot hear that and just think of pterodactyls flying over the sea that's right it's you I can see it now there's there's no it is it's magnificent in fact that bit particularly when the helicopter comes onto the island for the first time and he's shooting around it's fantastic oh yeah yeah but and star wars has multiple star wars has like you know classic star wars but you've also got you know luke's theme layers theme you know the imperial march all those, you know, he's just done it all. He's done it all.

The Imperial March is one that gets in your head a little bit when you watch the films and you're listening for it. I became conscious of it and you suddenly realise, it's sort of every time they're on screen it comes on and it gets a little bit irritating when you when you're looking for it but it's um incredibly effective it just sounds exactly perfect for the characters and yeah the bad guys i mean obviously his his collaboration with steven spielberg has helped him a lot but you know star wars has nothing to do with steven spielberg and there's lots of and there's you know there's lots of other films he's done

the fact that spielberg keeps coming back to him and trusts him on such massive films as a sign can I say also the the moment that his music that I love in Return of the Jedi is the the beautiful moment right at the end when when Luke you know when Darth um says that they're in the throne room together fighting, suddenly he, Darth, reads Luke's thoughts about having a sister and then says, if you will not turn, then maybe she will. And he says, no. And he comes out and they fight. And it's their last, last fight.

Oh, yeah. Luke's got the adrenaline going. And there's a beautifully haunting musical theme going on in the background. And I think that's just stunning. I think that's really beautiful. So, I know I didn't give you any preparation because I wanted to, like, spring it on you. Hang on a sec. I was going to say, I want to talk about John Williams a little bit more because I do...

Come on, the guy's got the keys to the planet. We can't talk about it. I've opened a can of worms here. Tim Hyde's new podcast is just called the John Williams Podcast. It just talks about how much he loves John Williams. You didn't even prepare and I can't shut you up talking about John Williams. Well, I have, I tell you, another theme of his that I really love. In fact, I have it in the car, in my second car,

which has still got a cd player like it's an old 70s you know v-dub beetle i've got like people tim loves john williams so much he keeps a second car just for listening to john williams in that's right that's right it's got a um you know just like a few cds in it that have been in there for years and years. And one of them is the theme to the soundtrack to Schindler's List, which is, of course, incredibly powerful and sparing and has a beautiful repetitive theme all the way through it. And I really quite like that. But I have one slight complaint because a little while ago,

a few years ago, I watched home alone again with my kids yeah and the theme to home alone is very similar to the theme from schindler's list in a in a in a different key i i promise you and i listen to two together, and I think there's just a very similar melody that's going on between those two that I can hear of. I'm not familiar with the Harry Potter one so much, but everything's vastly, you know, Jaws is nothing like Star Wars and all the rest, but I can hear something that's going on that's a bit similar.

It's a very, but I tell you, it's still effective. The theme on Home Alone is a very, very strong melody that works really, really strongly, pulls the heartstrings at Christmas and he's alone and all that stuff. And of course the Schindler's one in some ways couldn't be, had to be sparing because what's going on in the screen is so um yeah immense and full-on so so tim i know can i talk about something else now or do we have to keep talking about john williams well i just i wanted to move on to some of his lesser known scores

he's his wikipedia article is really interesting he's an interesting guy but uh i know i didn't give you any preparation because i wanted to kind of surprise you but does anyone spring to mind who you would like to give the key to the planet to and i'm not i don't want to and i'm trying to avoid like you know people like you know gandhi julius caesar or yeah you know i don't know if they have to be alive or not i think maybe we should say they have to be alive yeah it makes it a bit more interesting this kind of i'm trying to think what comes close to this idea. And I guess the time person of the year kind of thing. Yeah.

But it often hits upon someone who's in the moment. It's always a bit zeitgeisty, the time person of the year. That's right. I'm talking about, you know, someone who's, you probably need a sustained, you know, unless you're like Bruce Willis and you save the whole world from an asteroid, I think it needs to be like a sustained period of achievement, not just a one-off incident. Yeah. Well. I mean, Bruce Willis in Armageddon would obviously have to get the key to the planet, although he dies.

So, spoiler. So, you can't, I guess he can't get it. You'd have to give it to Ben Affleck. Didn't even have the key to the spaceship home. He's just. It's hard to go past I mean, Gandhi or Tom Hanks Which one do you think is more worthy? Well, I mean

Gandhi's not around I mean, they're probably the same level But seeing Gandhi's dead I will go with Tom Hanks Tom Hanks Just for likeability Just because you can trust him with the key. That's right.

I feel like he could. That's right. That's right. You know he'd give a nice speech, you know, like receiving it. So it's like, let's go with him. He'd look good on the day. Just between us, clearly f***ing key to the planet. Key to the planet. Keys to the planet.

That's where the idea came from, by the way. Did it really? Yeah. That's great. Keys to the planet. So... I don't know. It's hard to not think of someone who's just popular in...

Well, whose achievements in one area are so strong that they should be recognised right across the board. So if you take out politicians. What about John Hewson for his 1992 budget response speech? Well, that would come close. But he's got an Unmade Podcast t-shirt and sticker. Yeah, true. Yeah, OK. It's hard.

He probably wouldn't, you know, bother turning up for it. He'd think, well, another, just another gift. So if you take out politicians and you take out, well, other composers because you wouldn't want to crowd the field, you could probably pick an artist. There might be a painter who's, well, who's a painter who's still alive, who's beloved. It's really hard to think of someone because, of course, we're thinking of the Western world.

We're looking at it through Western eyes as well. There may be someone even more beloved on earth than Tom Hanks, but, you know. Sash and Tendulkar. That's right. Do you know the interesting- I mean, do you know anything about why keys are given? And while you're thinking about that or before you answer it, it's also the key is given on a person's 21st birthday as well. But I think that's the key to the home, isn't it?

You finally earned, you've reached an age. Better give them the key to the door. Never been 21 before. Did you just make that up? No, it's from the song 21 Today. 21 today, 21 today. And there's something about the key to the door. Never been 21 before.

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's the key to the door. Did you get a key on your 21st? I don't think you did, did you, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's the key to the door. Did you get a key on your 21st? I don't think you did, did you? I don't think so. But like when you first are entrusted with a key to the house, that was another idea for a podcast I was going to suggest but didn't, was the moments that, can you remember the moments you're first entrusted

with a key, like the first time you're given a key to the house? What a moment that is. It is, yeah. Because it sort of is permission to go out, isn't it? It's a semi-freedom and responsibility. I've been to a friend's house who has a code on their front door. So they actually put in a code to go through the front door of the house. And I've seen that at work before, but it was really strange walking up to a person's

house and then putting in a code to go in. Yeah. I also know people that have like contactless on their iPhone to get into their house. Oh, wow. Oh, there you go. Do you have a year two nominee for key to the planet? Oh, I don't know. But I tell you what, there's a bloody magnificent rainbow out my window right now landing in

the sea. It's beautiful. Oh. This is a great piece of podcasting you can enjoy right now as I explain a rainbow. This is a great piece of podcasting you can enjoy right now as I explain a rainbow. It starts with a reddy orange on one side, and as you move towards the middle, it starts getting a bit greeny purple. Sorry, I just got shocked by it. Are you going to take a photo and put it up with the episode?

Probably not, because I don't know. Hang on, I better take a photo anyway for my wife. Hang on, I'm taking a photo, man. Hang on. All right. Just talk to the people about potential nominees while I'm gone. Well, while Brady takes that photo, it's a time for you and I just to spend some one-on-one time. I got it.

Nice work. You got a nominee yet? Or are you going to... How about you do one next episode? Or maybe we could do a pilot episode of this and you could like we could both pick another one that's not a bad idea i think and we're going to make our case for them and um i'm worried you're going to give another one to john williams you bloody raved about him for the second year running i like that you didn't't give it to Spielberg who made the films, but just the guy who adds the soundtrack at the end of Spielberg's films.

Spielberg didn't do Star Wars. No, I know. No, but so that changes it then. It's like, oh. I mean, Steven Spielberg's a chance at getting one maybe. I mean, he's done. Yeah, he's pretty good. I picked up a book today by Martin Amis,

which is about his journeys and articles about america but from 1985 and i was reading through the one and one was on steven spielberg and i thought oh that's interesting to see what he says about him and it was just raving about his success and how he's a really interesting filmmaker because and the the core of it was he doesn't put famous actors, he puts ordinary people. And so he said Spielberg's not the kind of director that shines a light on something. He sort of presents a mirror that we see ourselves. I was thinking that is kind of true, particularly those early films. Yeah.

They're ordinary people. He never has a big, big star come into one of his films. Nah, he's changed a bit more lately, but yeah. He's done some films with Tom Cruise and stuff, hasn't he, and all that. Oh, yeah, like War of the Worlds and stuff like that. I've just Googled the most famous person in the world. Was it me? It's, no, you're well down the list.

But it's really interesting because there's a bunch of different sites with different lists that have popped up the first few people. Let me give you a couple of them. It's just interesting because there's a bunch of different sites with different lists that have popped up the first few people. Let me give you a couple of them. It's just so bizarre. The first one says Oprah Winfrey, right? Number two, Michael Jackson. And then it goes to Marilyn Monroe. I'm like, okay, okay.

Then I moved down to the, this is the second entry on Google. Who is the most famous person in the world? Number one, The Rock. That's like, you've got to be kidding me. Like, who's The Rock? You're not going to give him the keys to the planet? Will Smith. And I'm like, what?

Will Smith is not the second most famous person in the world. Who do you think the most famous person in the world is? Well, it's got to be either the queen or barack obama or probably probably donald trump or the pope did you say the pope i guess i guess the pope yeah yeah they got here the top the 65 most famous people ever and number one is jesus yeah he did well he was huge i mean he didn't even have a twitter and he was huge. Ten most famous people in the world. Mark Zuckerberg. See, Mark Zuckerberg's not that famous. I mean, he is very famous, but he's not.

You know what I mean? Like his product is more famous than the person. He's pretty famous, though. Do you know what would be a really interesting thing to figure out? Who is the least famous person in the world? Because there's a lot of people down at that lowest rung, you know How could you define who the least famous person in the world is? Well, the difficult thing, as soon as we mention them Even our humble podcast would shoot them up the list like nothing else

Surely you'd be up there I'd be down there you mean Or up there The least famous That's nice It's how I like it It's good The least famous person in the world

Imagine that Imagine how Imagine how little known you are To be the least famous person in the world Like It's like It's a stunning achievement Look here

Who is the least famous person in the world? I just Googled it and they're saying you must have some degree of fame to qualify as the least famous. Okay, so you have to have fame. Because what is fame anyway? But yeah, once we define what fame is, you have to have some of it. So like a newborn baby. No, yeah. In a place where there's no television and yeah, like you've it so like a newborn baby no yeah in a place where

there's no television and yeah like you've got to like all right there's a criteria one famous person who currently lives in new mexico is ross anderson anderson is the fastest professional why are they just mentioning a a random person i don't know who ross anderson is but he's just lost his rock he's just lost his crown as the least famous person. Everyone Google Ross Anderson. Here we go. The 25 least influential people alive. Princess Beatrice is number two.

Number one is Tim Pawlenty. I know that name. Who's that? Every election season comes with. He's a candidate for somewhere who runs in election races and never wins. T-Paw, as he calls himself, spent much of 2011 as a six-foot-two paperweight, an aggressively forgettable fellow, perfectly suited to the role of debate filler. Looks like he must run for the democrats

what about former adelaide lord mayor alfred huang whose election i covered oh did you really i don't remember him that must be no when i was interstate or just because i don't remember him yeah i was at his election victory party there you go. He was the Lord Mayor when I left Adelaide. He's the one that gave me the official media nameplate from the council chamber as a going-away present. Well, mayors would have to be disallowed as well because this is kind of a mayoral thing, isn't it, really?

Anyway, sorry, key to the planet. Key to the planet. Well, we may revisit this topic because Tim has not come up with anyone. Would you make an actual key? Like, is there a physical, like how? Oh, yeah, there would have to be. Yeah, and it would have to be nice. I'd like it to be small, though. I don't want it to be like an oversized key that they sometimes do, like one of those comedy oversized checks when people raise money for charity.

I want it to be like something small and classy, but maybe made of something incredibly rare, like some incredibly rare element. What if it's an actual, just a key size, like it's a nice little key on a key chain? Yeah. I like what they gave out at the end of Sale of the Century, you know, when the person won the cars and they got in. Here's the nice, you know, nice keychain. It was a keyring, wasn't it?

Yeah, it was a nice keyring, yeah. And befitting for the champion and vehicle of this calibre, our 18-carat gold diamond studded keyring valued at $2,000 from Shimane Jewelry and Sale of the Century. Maybe it's keyring to the planet. How exciting was it when someone was going for the cars on Sale of the Century?

That's right. And then would they come back and go for the lot? The lot. Yeah. The lot. You know, because if you won the cars on the side of the century, you could then come back the next night and go for the cars, all the prizes and the cash jackpot. This is our carryover champion, Louise Williams from Altona Meadows, Victoria. Tonight, with a win in the game, Louise will take home all the prizes,

the two Alfa Romeo 147s and the cash jackpot. A grand total of $344,076. There was always a second, so someone would go for the cars after five or six episodes, and then if you won, do you want to take the cars or do you want to come back and go for the lot? This has always bewildered me that there was a step in between those two.

Like there was the cash jackpot that was two nights after the cars. Oh, was it? Yeah, like you won the car. Oh, I thought it was the cars and then the lot. I think Louise will take the lot. Well, it is a big night. There's always a special night when someone goes for the lot. But the lot didn't include the cash.

And I was like, what? But you've already won the lot. Like, you've accumulated them week by week by week and the cars. And then it was like one more game you had to win the lot. And I was like, well, but you've already won them. But it was like another step. And then the night after that was the cash jackpot. That's not how I remember it.

I know. It seems crazy to say it now. But I found that bewildering as a kid. Maybe you were just not understanding it and you were wrong. Do you remember the start of the century, that contestant called Cary, who was amazing? Oh, yeah. Cary, yeah, with the goatee and stuff. Yeah, the beard.

The beard. He was amazing. What was his name? Was it Cary Young? He was like the greatest start of the century quiz player ever. He's like the smartest guy on earth in my opinion as a kid. They would just start the question

and he would press the buzzer and like, no. He was the one who whenever they did like the who am I questions, I would say, who am I? I was born in 1933. John Williams. I remember there was another guy

where they stopped halfway through Fast Money at the end When they're doing the mad minute Halfway through and said Look, we know where this is going It's all over You've won, that's it And I was like

Whoa, that's amazing Like he was so far ahead they didn't even finish it What? They did I don't believe that They took like 30 seconds and went Look, let's just call it now You've won, you're ahead

It's crazy I don't believe that I don't believe that ever happened It's true I do not Until you send me a video's crazy. I don't believe that. I don't believe that ever happened. It's true. Until you send me a video of it happening, I do not believe it happened. Well, how am I going to do that? Well, I reckon it was in the Tony Barber days as well. And he's the true quiz master foresail of the century.

So, for people listening who we've completely forgotten about, Fast Money was a section in this quiz show where in 60 seconds, they would rapid-fire questions. So, you had to answer them as quickly as possible and then uh you know it was just like it was called they always called it the mad minute i think glenn ridge called it the mad minute i'm not sure if that was that's not that's not officially sanctioned by tony barber the original host but time for the mad minute so let's find out what's going to happen so for the game good luck to you both, the pressure's on 60 seconds up on the clock and your time starts Now, something that jogs the memory

Is said to ring a what? Chris? Bell Yeah, so beginning with R is which Italian soft cottage cheese? Louise? Ricotta? Yeah, so what is the basic currency unit of South Africa? Louise? The ring? We have talked about sale of the century before Ah, yeah, too right we have

And we will again But We have talked about sale of the century before. Oh, yeah. Too right we have. And we will again. I'm just going to have to go Google through sale of the century wins the lot, like on YouTube. I know. I've put something about fast money being ended prematurely, but I can't see any evidence of that. I still think you dreamt that or something. Well, what kind of person, like, puts that into YouTube and actually titles of that going, oh, someone will want to watch this one day? You'd be amazed how many start of the century clips there are.

What they did was he did stop the clock and then he said, we all know how this is going to end. You've won. That's what he said. I just don't believe that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm going to say it right right now i think you're lying

what the hell would i have invented i think you're lying to make yourself sound like you have a better memory of style of the century than you actually do and i think that's despicable what things that I could say I remember I was once watching an episode of Sire of the Century and an elephant Burst onto the stage And started attacking the contestants

I just think you were young and impressionable And didn't understand what was going on I was young And there's nothing wrong with that There's a clip here from 2001 Which seems very recent I would have thought the show I picture the show back in the 80s to be honest

They should bring it back A nightly quiz show would be great Just to sit there and answer questions Yeah There's a show in Australia called Hard Quiz Which is quite popular and I like And that's one where the contestants come on And they get asked questions about

The one thing they know the most about. Right. So you don't get general knowledge. Oh, yeah. There's a show in the UK like that. That's Mastermind. Right. The thing about Mastermind that I like is they, in Mastermind over here, which has been around for a really long time, you have your specialist subject.

And I think you get like a minute or a minute and a half of questions about that. And then general knowledge after that. and they combine your two scores. But it's always really interesting because it's a common discussion that people have. If you were on Mastermind, what would your specialist subject be? Oh, yeah. The two things that I think my specialist subject would be would be the original Star Wars trilogy and the Apollo moon landings. And both of them have been topics on Mastermind. And I was able to see how I did, like how I would do.

Because, you know, because they ask you really obscure questions, of course. Yeah. And so, both those things came up. And so, I got to test myself and bloody nailed it as well. Did you? Did you feel pretty proud? Well, not really really because my wife was watching and knowing that much about star wars it's not something to be proud of what would

your specialist subject be if you were on a show like that like what's the thing that you know the most about it'd probably be it'd probably be i don't know something like you two or c.s lewis yeah just something i've read a lot of books about or that your brain remembers small details about, you know. Lots of biographies. What year was C.S. Lewis born? Oh, I don't know. 1898, 29th of November. Do you know when he died?

You should know when he died because it's famous. Same day as JFK. Yeah. 22nd of November. November 63, yeah. Yeah. Do you know when he died? You should know when he died because it's famous. Same day as JFK. Yeah. 22nd of November. November 63, yeah? Yeah. And Aldous Huxley died the same day as well, the three of them.

I'd give C.S. Lewis the keys to the planet. He's a real hero of mine. I love C.S. Lewis. Yeah, but he died, so you can't. He did. Well, this is true. And I wouldn't give it to you, too no after the last few albums no you want the key back