The Unmade Podcast - 57: Spoon of the Week

Episode Date: August 20, 2020

Tim and Brady talk about sofa jingles, partner conversion, spoons, and siblings - plus other nonsense. Don't you do a thing until you check out Storyblocks for stock video, pictures and audio at stor...yblocks.com/unmade - https://www.storyblocks.com/unmade Support us on Patreon to be in the running for a souvenir spoon - and other bonuses - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/idah3e USEFUL LINKS Alan Stewart - The Maestro - on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DZ06evO2TxBy8 The Sofa Shop sheet music - via Zach and for Patrons - https://www.patreon.com/posts/38069233 Moulin Rouge Soundtrack - https://amzn.to/2YjfVOP Listening to Music at 'The Third Level' - https://www.unmade.fm/press-play The Aguuuueeerrrrro Goal - https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11987352/aguero-wins-title-for-man-city-as-united-miss-out Tim's Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Adelaide's iconic Festival Theatre - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_Festival_Centre The former Pope's older brother - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Ratzinger

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Starting point is 00:00:00 so i imagine occasional listeners to the show may be familiar with a little ditty a little advertising jingle from our younger days in adelaide it's called the sofa shop and it goes a little something like this the sofa shop is your only stop For the sofa you need The sofa shop, yeah, come and drop in We have a sofa designed for you Choose your fabric, match your curtains too The sofa shop ain't gonna cost
Starting point is 00:00:43 What you think it will Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop Do you remember it well or have I kind of foisted it on you or do you remember it really well? I now don't know if I can distinguish between it. I do remember it. I do remember it, but not from my younger years. It was the latter part for me. I mean, of course, younger years, but late teenage years.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For you, did it go way back? Like, was it? Well, I don't think so. I think it was like, I think it was probably 90s, but I'm not totally sure. Things that are really bad were sort of that early 90s, weren't they? I mean, things in the 80s were kind of awesome. And then the 90s, you know, those TV jingles just seem to go downhill.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Yeah. But the sofa shop jingle seems like an 80s jingle that came out in the 90s, you know, those TV jingles just seem to go downhill. Yeah. But the sofa shop jingle seems like an 80s jingle that came out in the 90s, which is like an extra level of crap. It's like, pick a decade. Yeah. It like, it felt crap at the time. Like it didn't, it's not like you look back at it and think, oh, you know, that's of its time. Like at the time it felt like, oh, this is wrong. Like. Yeah. Yeah. There's a felt like, oh, this is wrong. Like.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah. Yeah. There's a few ads around Adelaide like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's Adelaide. That's just Adelaide. So anyway, my friend, the maestro, Alan Stewart, who does all sorts of music for me across
Starting point is 00:02:03 all my projects and even did all the little jingles and sound effects for the Unmade podcast. He's been having a bit of a play. So we're going to play a couple of things for people now. Now, Tim, are you a fan of the Blade Runner soundtrack? I'm not terribly familiar. I still haven't seen Blade Runner. But I know, which seems amazing.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah, because you've seen everything. Not that I've seen everything, but in that it's right up there on people's lists of the best films of all time. But I know the world in which it constitutes and the sci-fi, space punk kind of sound. So the soundtrack is of that kind of era. Didn't Vangelis do it? Well, that would make a lot of sense, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Yeah, I think Vangelis did the soundtrack for Blade Runner. I'm going to check that. Yeah. So anyway, well, it's a very iconic soundtrack for those who do know it. Alan has called this Sofashop 2049, which I think is a cool name, obviously, because the Blade run in 2049. Here we go. Thank you. I am the one who will not let you go. Did you like that one? I guess that one won't have tickled you quite so much,
Starting point is 00:04:17 not being quite as familiar with the movie then maybe. No, no, but it's very good. It's got an incredible sound to it i feel it's the sort of sound you could build a movie around like i think would it be called blade shop or sofa runner it would be sofa runner wouldn't it sofa runner is it the sofa runner i can picture matt Matt Damon in the sofa runner, like just in the future. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:50 That's a, well, we won't say more until we've confirmed the rights to that because I think. There's just some guy that goes around running tests on people to decide if they're a human or if they're really a sofa. Human, sofa. Sofa, sofa, sofa, human. I've worked with a few people over the years that you can't quite tell the difference. Anyway, very, very- Yeah, that's impressive my favorite part of that one is like because it's you know
Starting point is 00:05:28 it's so slow and grand and yet it still has that little jaunty it still can't help sounding jaunty at the part where it goes we have a sofa design for you like even like it still has this sort of silliness embedded because of that part. Yeah. Couldn't avoid the cha-cha-cha. Anyway. A little bit of tango. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Nice, nice. So that's not the only effort we have from Alan. We have another one. And I've just always wanted to introduce, like, something like this. So here's one for all the ladies. LAUGHTER The sofa shop is the only stop for the sofa you need For the sofa you need Sofa shop, yeah
Starting point is 00:06:44 Why don't you come and drop in? Why don't you come and drop in? We have a sofa designed for you Choose your fabric, match your curtains too So for sure it ain't gone, it ain't gonna cost what you think it will Don't you do a thing until you've seen the soul for sure I have to say, this is my favourite of the two. Yeah. Did it get you?
Starting point is 00:07:50 Did Alan's, like, were you listening to Alan's singing going, oh, yeah, romantic? Well, the other one had a little bit of tango. This one had the effect of the tango. It put me in the mood. Yeah, a bit of date night. A bit of date night. You'd put that one on in the background while you go to a fancy KFC.
Starting point is 00:08:07 That's right. I literally was eating KFC when I heard it for the first time, so that's funny. Well, you know what an aphrodisiac KFC is. That's right. I reached over with my greasy finger because you'd text me, and, you know, when your finger's got a little bit of kfc oil okay you can't quite press the phone like it's you're using your pinky finger or trying
Starting point is 00:08:31 to find some part of a knuckle that's like dry enough and finally it comes on and it's like wow this isn't what i was expecting but. But it received universal acclaim around the kitchen counter where we were all sort of sitting and standing. Oh, nice. It's been on my mind ever since. I've been driving along singing it. I can't stop thinking about it. I was, like, coming here tonight.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I was like, I hadn't listened to it again, but I was singing it. It's just, I think it brings something else. I think it reveals new layers to the tune it is it makes me think of it in a whole new light do they not by the way do they not make special like iphone screens that work with kfc oil that you can like adapter screens you can put over the phone or something you know when your hands are wet or you've got gloves on And the screen just won't work no matter what you do It's like that
Starting point is 00:09:32 That's your whole life except with KFC oil No wonder the trackpad on my laptop broke tonight. Okay. Well, thank you, Maestro Alan, for those whole new spins on the sofa shop theme. If there are any musicians out there that want to kind of make a contribution, we will accept them. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I would love to hear some other versions. Unmadefm at gmail.com is our address if you want to get in touch and drop some beats. Is that how you say it? I don't say it. I sound as ridiculous as you when I say it. Drop some beats. Are there any genres of music you would like to hear applied to the Sofa Shop theme in particular, Tim?
Starting point is 00:10:26 Any requests? I wonder if our passion for Garth Brooks might mean that the Sofa Shop heads towards a country. Country music. Adaptation. Yeah. Is there a country? Or like square dancing. Well, not that.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Square dancing. Well, not that. I was thinking more the sort of cool fly through the air, big stage production Garth Brooks, cool country rather than that sort of hoedown kind of. Okay, I'm with you. Yeah. Sort of more blockbuster. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Country power ballad-ish sort of version. Country power ballad is a request, but we will take what we get. But dropping beats is another good idea. I'd love to hear like a dance version, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:09 like a remix that had, you know, like that could be played in a club with a big beat. And I think it would suit that. It's just a repetitive. Yeah, like something like a bit euphoric and anthemic that, you know. Chemical Brothers sort of. Chemical Brothers, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not saying Chemical Brothers sort of. Chemical Brothers, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I'm not saying you have to get the Chemical Brothers, but if you did, that would be damn impressive. Is there a particular musician who you would most like to hear cover, like the Sofa Shop? What do you think Nick Cave would bring to it? I know you love Nick Cave. Do you think he could pull it off? He could.
Starting point is 00:11:41 He could do a slow version on the piano. That would be very evocative. Oh, yes. I mean,? He could. He could do a slow version on the piano. That would be very evocative. Oh, yes. I mean, the tune does most of the work, so it doesn't really matter who the artist is. No. When you've got a strong melody, it's there, you know. Yeah, and lyrics.
Starting point is 00:11:55 When you've got lyrics like that, like, that's so clever. It's so clever. Because you can take it so many ways. It's like Shakespeare. It doesn't matter who's doing it. At the end of the day, it's still King Lear, you know. It's like, wow, it works. It's timeless.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Yeah. Don't you do a thing until you've seen the sofa shop So, Ideas for a Podcast is what we're all about. That's our main thing here, isn't it? That's our shtick. It's one of our main things. I wouldn't say it's the thing we're best at. No.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I would, unfortunately. Do you know what? I was thinking about ideas today and I was struggling a bit and I had a, I've got a lot, but I just didn't feel, I wasn't feeling one today. And then when I finally, one of the ones I'm maybe going to do, I was like, have we done that before? Because, you know, it's hard to keep track now. We've been doing this a while, but we do have someone who's made this incredible spreadsheet
Starting point is 00:13:17 of every episode so I can look up what ideas have been done. Have I sent you this link yet? Oh, I saw it ages ago, but I've not looked at it recently. I must look at that. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. So, I went and looked at that. It's amazing. It's all like colour-coded as to who had what ideas and who the sponsor of the episode was and like mini ideas and what patron ideas and all sorts of things. It's a really useful resource. It's so big though, it's a really useful resource it's so big though it's hard to search so i sort of looked at the first few rows and went nah it's not there probably
Starting point is 00:13:50 haven't done it probably if we didn't do it last week and we didn't do it in the first few weeks you checked then yeah it's in that it's in the black it's in the void in between uh all right i throw ideas around with the family and they go, no, you've done that. I go, what do you mean? They go, I remember that story. And I'll be, oh, yeah. And it's like a very, very similar idea. I mean, well, you've only got like two or three ideas that you kind of tweak each week, haven't you?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Oh, I didn't get this. I'm doing an entirely different American Music Awards tonight Than I did last time Like I had an idea called I Converted My Partner It's where you get your partner People talking about how they finally sold their partner On liking something that they liked And I thought, yeah, that's a really fascinating sort of area
Starting point is 00:14:44 But then my wife goes, oh, yeah, no, that's got, wow, that's a really fascinating sort of area. But then my wife goes, oh, yeah, like the time you talked about how you converted me to KFC and I liked it, you know, and I was, oh, that's right, yeah. I don't remember that. I don't remember that. Yeah. I thought that was a really good idea. It was a really good podcast idea.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Okay. Well, have you got the database open there? Can you look at the spreadsheet? Yeah, I have got the spreadsheet here, but I don't know what word to search for. KFC. See if that brings up any hits. Let's see how many times KFC gets hit in the spreadsheet. Seven hits it has in the spreadsheet. Oh, well, that's what, per episode or? Per minute, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:21 What, per episode or? Per minute, yeah. KFC patches, KFC hacks, the indifferent KFC podcast. Oh, yeah, that was a concern. Oh, the first ever mention of KFC apparently was in episode nine, which is unbelievable. Wow. No, sorry, episode seven, episode seven. I think that's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:15:44 That's way better than your actual idea today. It's a shame you didn't go with that one. Oh, well, we can talk about that one if you want. Yeah. This is the idea that, you know, you get together with someone and you're together and you have likes and dislikes and you try and tolerate what the other person's into, but they're trying to woo you to their interests. Oh, it's a lifelong battle, you know, and then you give up
Starting point is 00:16:03 and then that's pretty much it. Yeah. Then you die. then that's pretty much it. Yeah. Then you die. And that's my idea. Let me ask what's something your wife has converted you to that you didn't like when you got together. Well. Jim's like, that's not what I want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I want to talk about my past. I feel like you're jumping ahead. You're jumping ahead about 20 years. What's she converted me to? Probably cleaning. Cleaning. Cleanliness. Hygiene.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Showering. Myself. She's converted you to cleaning. Yeah, I do kind of get that. I do kind of get it. The house. As in, it used to be a reluctant, oh, gosh, you do it bare minimum, whereas now I'm quite passionate and intent about making sure that it's done very properly yeah there's also walking i've mentioned this maybe before um what did you used to used to do just kind of flounder around on the ground
Starting point is 00:17:15 how would you get from room to room i used to just kind of like just pull myself along on the ground and And then I met my wife. It was incredible. Actually, I'm getting mixed up with my mum. It was my mum in the first two years of my life. She's like, try walking. Solid food. Talking.
Starting point is 00:17:44 talking i'm just imagining your wife meeting this grown man just rolling around on the ground unable to clean or eat or do anything just this i'm gonna marry that man and i'm gonna teach him some stuff and it's taken all this time. Like I've steadfastly refused. Nope. No, I'm happy down here. Nope. Saved a fortune on shoes.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Finally, it's like, all right, I'll reluctantly give it a go. I'm just imagining like the wedding day and she's got tears rolling down her face as Tim takes those first steps down the aisle. I did this for you. I'm a changed man. Look, I washed my hands away to a man's legs is through his heart that's what they say cleaning and walking cleaning and walking yes she aimed high and um let me let me ask you this because you're obviously like a total music snob and think
Starting point is 00:19:05 you're like the you know yeah has she converted has she converted you to any of her music uh no absolutely not my wife loves music but doesn't classify it or organize it or have it in associated with people's names in her mind, really. Like, it's just when we got together, she had one CD and I had like a thousand or a few thousand or something, you know. What was her CD? It was the Moulin Rouge soundtrack. And that had been given to her as a gift. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And what were your thousand? Well, honestly, hoping you would ask that. Strap yourself in, people. This is going to be a long episode. It has been a joy over the years to come home and just, this is back when we had all the CDs out, and to just be playing something going, this is great, I love this. And I'll look at it and go, oh, fantastic.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah, PJ Harvey. And she's like, she's converted herself from something in my collection. And it's like, oh, she loves that now. Yeah, yeah. Have you grown to appreciate the Moulin Rouge soundtrack? No. No, I haven't. No, I have to say.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I reluctantly kept it in the collection. No, it's fine. It's got some moments. Yeah, yeah. That's a lot of women I know's favourite CD. Oh, really? Yeah. Even more than the Sofa Shop lounge mix?
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah. Why don't you come and drop in? Oh, a Sofa Shop album. Oh, my God. You've sown the seed. Oh, gosh. A whole album. If we my God. You've sown the seed. Oh, gosh. A whole album. If we can just put them all together.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah, anyway. So. Well, what about you? What have you been converted to? I think that seems to be the more interesting. Definitely. Some concerts with her. The gigs and concerts is interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:01 You've texted me from all like around the world at like the fuji rock festival and places i glastonbury places i never dreamed that you would go to or i know it all man if you ever want if you ever want any you know if you ever want me to tell you any stories or give you any music advice just let me know you know i've been around all right yeah what what's the first bit of music advice you'd give me? What's right off the top? What's your axiom? I'd say just follow your heart, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Don't worry about what people think. Follow your heart. All right. That's what it's about. Music's about passion. Love what talks to you, you know? You hearing me? Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:42 This is gold. Yeah. That's great. Just like, just immerse yourself in the music and let it speak to you on another level, on another level. Oh, another level. Yeah. Which level?
Starting point is 00:21:57 The third level. The third level? Yeah. Gosh, I've never heard anyone say that before. Because a lot of people listen to music on the first level and then some people listen to it on the second level That's true Maybe once or twice in your life
Starting point is 00:22:10 It touches you on the third level The third level The third level Are we even allowed to talk about the third level? Well, I might edit this part out Because I don't want everyone to know about the third level Third level But between you and me Go about the third level. Third level.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But between you and me, go for that third level, man. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I will. All right. All right. All right, there you go. What else has my wife converted?
Starting point is 00:22:41 My wife's converted me to eggs. She's converted me to eggs. I eat eggs now because of her. Because of her, I now know what clothing looks good. I still don't wear that clothing, but at least now I know what's wrong with the things I'm wearing. Like when I get dressed in the morning, I know it's wrong now. I used to think I was wearing the right stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Now I know I'm wearing the wrong stuff. And I know that because of her. Well,'s helpful do you get sent back like is it like oh no no only if we're seeing important people that are important to her then she might say are you gonna wear that today if your wife ever says to you is that what you're wearing today the answer needs to be no no this is my brushing my teeth outfit. What are you talking about? I was just wearing this to test you to see if you were looking. It's like I'm about to make you breakfast and I just didn't want to get what I'm wearing today dirty.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So if we're seeing like people that matter to her, then I might get, is that what you're wearing today? But otherwise, she just lets me wear what I want because, you know, she knows it's a losing battle. Right. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, my wife's got a very nice taste. She's very tasteful. So, like, I live in a tasteful house now because of her.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I don't say she hasn't taught me to be tasteful, but I kind of occasionally I'll get it. Like, if we're out shopping for, for like cushions and I find a cushion that I think she might like that cushion and I say, what about this one? And hold it up. And she's like, oh yeah, that's a good one. That's like a huge victory for me. That's like, yeah, I knew it.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I knew that cushion was good. Yes. I've, in terms of what I've converted her to, she will eat Vegemite. She has some Australian foods she likes. Yeah. There have been a few bands that I've found and I've heard on the radio. This is the other great triumph. If I hear a band on the radio and I say, I heard something,
Starting point is 00:24:38 I think you might like this one, and then it becomes a band she really likes, that's huge as well. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What have you converted your wife to that's most important? And then it becomes a band she really likes. That's huge as well. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What have you converted your wife to that's most important? I kind of thought that I... Longest pause in history.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah. I thought I'd converted her to Australian Rules Football because... Yeah. And the Richmond Tigers because we went to a bunch of the matches in Melbourne when we were dating and, you know, and I watched the footy a little bit and the kids. I've realised that that was more humouring me. Like she was just sort of happy to be with me and happy to be out and it's a nice day.
Starting point is 00:25:19 There's a huge list of things I thought I'd converted my wife to that she did while we were dating. That now that we're married is like, you know. I remember she used to sit and watch like a Grand Prix with me and thought, oh, this is amazing. No. Putting the Grand Prix on now is like, there's more chance she'd stay in the room if I set fire to it than if I put the Grand Prix on. I've started asking my wife to come and check out, because one night when I went to Grand Prix,
Starting point is 00:25:49 she watched the first lap and a few other laps, and I said, look at this, and I was sort of saying, and it was quite exciting. So then when the next one was on, I sort of mentioned, oh, look, Grand Prix's starting, like she'd want to know. And I think she was sort of vaguely, I said, come and watch the first lap. And she literally like walked in the opposite direction towards the other end of the house.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And I said, come on, just the first lap. Come on, this is the interesting bit, you know, the first corner. And literally like there was no answer. It was just like, and I'm like, surely she mustn't have heard me or understood. Like I was torn between, do I go and find her to say, did you hear me say? But then I would miss the first lap. So I was just like, no, is gonna be a and this is gonna be a solo gig and there's also that time when like if you're watching something sporting and it's like a really amazing and then you want to go and explain
Starting point is 00:26:36 why something amazing just happened and there's just no getting across the amazingness like no yeah i need you to understand why i just saw an amazing thing and it's like i had this happened to me just a couple of days ago i was saying please i want you to understand and she was like why don't you just call one of your friends and tell them about it i want you to understand she literally said she literally said why don't you call one of your friends who's more interested in sport and tell them about it. There's always a bit of a false dawn with those things too, because if they are genuinely present for a uniquely exciting moment, like, you know, winning the grand final or the premiership
Starting point is 00:27:18 or an amazing spectacular thing, they do genuinely get into it and exciting because anyone would. You don't have to be a fan. And that feels like, hey, we're really in this together. I'm not going to agree with you there. There have been a couple of times where that's happened, but there have been also a lot of times where it hasn't happened. There was a really famous end to a premiership football season here.
Starting point is 00:27:38 The first time Manchester City won the premiership in recent times. And there was that amazing goal scored by Sergio Aguero. It's a really famous moment in football now because the commentator goes, Aguero! And we were watching that. And it was this incredible end to the season because they scored these two goals in the last minute and everything turned around.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And it was so exciting. And my wife was watching it with me. And we then went for a walk of the dog so I could like calm myself down and like just like, you know, let's go walk the dog. And I spent the whole time walking the dog saying, I don't think you understand how amazing the thing you just watched was. And I kept trying to explain how amazing it was. And she was like, yeah, it was good. I could tell everyone was really excited. And I was like, no, no, you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:28:26 This is so rare. She was sort of appreciating on it rather than getting into it. It was just like, oh, yes, I can see that's a, you know, yeah. Beyond your partner, because obviously converting your partner is this interesting scenario because you have this unique relationship with your partner. You live with them. You're with them, you know, for a long time, a lot of the time. What about converting other people like your friends and your work colleagues and things
Starting point is 00:28:50 like that? Do you like work at that? Do you care about doing that less? Or like, are you always trying to get all your work colleagues and stuff into the music you're into or the sport you're into? Or where do you think that is in the pecking order? Conversion of friends and other people in your life. I think it happens more when you're young like you actually care i don't think i do that although i have i've talked about my um friend john who's not doesn't
Starting point is 00:29:17 actively try to convert me to nfl but you know what i mean when i show an interest he engages in it and then i think he's just given up i don't know if if if i actively convert people to perhaps to a a you know a comedian set or something like that like you have to check this out but that's more of a recommendation than really owning something and becoming a convert isn't how often when someone sends you one of those messages to yeah you should check this out i think you'll like this song i think you check this out, I think you'll like this song, I think you'll like this album, I think you'll like this comedian, how often do you actually click and then watch?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Not all the time, that's for sure. I'm very resistant to. Yes. I'm like that. I'm like that. I'd say my click-through rate on that from strangers is probably 1%. From people who are my friends and I've known for a long time like you, probably 5%.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Maybe. I'm openly resistant to recommendations of new music from really anyone but just a very small select, a couple of people yeah yeah yeah made in melbourne and um well i think even just i think he's probably the only one you know like i just i don't want any more bands oh this is a great band i just no no my cabin is closed done i stopped in the 90s everyone knows that that about you, man. No, no. What I mean is I want to discover it for my, I want to convert myself or the joy of discovering yourself.
Starting point is 00:30:51 But I, it sounds so closed. I guess it is closed. It is closed. But it's, well, you're a bit the same. What is it about us that doesn't, if they're saying it's great, why is it 95% of the time you're like, nah. I just haven't got time for more stuff. I haven't got time for more stuff, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:10 We have sufficient stuff for the time that we have. I'm busy enough. Yeah. If I've got spare time, I want to watch something or spend it on something I know I'll like for sure. That's true. My wife and I have got this friend who's like, you know, a dear friend of ours, but she just seems to have the exact opposite taste to us in like TV shows and movies.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And if she likes something, it's a guarantee we won't like it. But the better thing is if she doesn't like something, it is a guarantee we will like it. So, we have been known to subtly find out things that she has really disliked as our recommendation of things to watch. Like it'll be, oh, what's that film she really hated, like that she thought was really confusing and couldn't stand? All right, let's watch that. And invariably it's really good. Sounds like a complex and interesting plot.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah, that's good. She's our go-to, like, go-to person. But likewise, if she liked it, we usually won't watch it. Oh, what's that new movie? No. Oh, yeah, should we watch it? And then my wife will say, oh, so-and-so actually thought it was really good. And then we'll, like, be like, okay, no.
Starting point is 00:32:16 No. Skip that one. I remember I converted you to Garth Brooks. Do you remember? You did. You did. I was enthused about him. I didn't openly try to
Starting point is 00:32:25 convert you because it felt like such a lost and impossible cause but there were a series of incidences and coincidences and situations that put you in a unique position to convert me but the main thing was there was nobody in adelaide that would go to the garth brooks concert with you so i so i agreed to go with you, like, you know, as a friend. It was not charity. No, it completely was. But then when I said I was going to go with you, you gave me a bunch of music to listen to.
Starting point is 00:32:55 You said you should listen to some of his music before you go. And then by the time the concert came around, I was a full convert. I'd gotten into it on merit. Yeah, yeah. So you were a full convert. I'd gotten into it on merit. Yeah, yeah. So you were a charity case, but then listening to the music in preparation, I got into it. Ah, yeah, I do remember that. Well, I appreciate you reaching down to me.
Starting point is 00:33:17 You're such a good Samaritan to me in my Garth Brooks moment. And the other one was Harry Connick Jr., I reckon, as well. You didn't like Harry Connick Jr. Until you saw him interviewed with Andrew Denton one night And then you went, actually, he's a really funny guy I like Harry Connick Jr. as a person I think he is like funny Like he's a good interviewee
Starting point is 00:33:36 But I don't like his music Ah, okay Yeah It's just because I don't like that genre of music Fair enough Fair enough So, quick sponsorship message. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Have you been able to convert your wife to Storyblocks? You see what I did there? See what I did? Oh, lovely. Yes. Well, lovely. Yes. Well, no. She would love Storyblocks because if she's ever creating a video or a website or anything and she needs an incredible archive
Starting point is 00:34:15 of stock footage to make that perfect film, Storyblocks has got everything she could ever hope for. If that eventuality ever occurs I can guarantee this She will not be going anywhere else Good That's true I was actually thinking
Starting point is 00:34:30 Storyblocks needs is like a jingle Yeah How about this, ready? Storyblocks is your only stop for the stock footage you need That sounds familiar Storyblocks, yeah, come and log in. They've got stock footage designed for you. Choose your video, match your audio too.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Storyblocks ain't gonna cost what you think it will. Don't you do a thing until you've been to storyblocks.com slash unmade storyblocks.com slash unmade i actually think that works better than with sofas to be honest misapplied yeah beautiful work and the best thing about it is they've got lots of great footage for the ad they don't have to use the stuff from the actual ad. Let's have a look and see what Storyblocks has got for pictures of sofas. Hang on. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:35:32 They also have the thing I like with Storyblocks is because they need this to be searchable for, you know, when you're looking for footage to make your own video. They have really cool captions. Like, I'm just looking at this one here. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm just looking at this one here. Yeah, yeah. This one here says, happy, cute, pre-adolescent boy with adult smiling mom holding game controllers and playing video games sitting on sofa in domestic room. Family having fun playing home console together.
Starting point is 00:35:56 There you go. It's poetry. I wonder who has the job of writing the captions for story blocks on all these videos. Because that would be like, because basically they have to watch like, you know, a 10, 15 second clip and say everything about it they think could be useful. That would actually be quite an interesting job. It would. Being very ultra literal about everything that you write. Descriptive is another way to put it. Ultra literal is a much more poetic.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Ultra literal is the name of my new album. Right. Tim Mine. Ultra literal. Ultra literal. Storyblocks.com slash unmade. Incredible archiver video, audio, images. Go and check them out, people.
Starting point is 00:36:39 This is like having your own multimedia library. Super, super useful resource. Everything on there is all licensed for you to use under, like, your one monthly fee. Here's a dude with a mask sitting on a sofa. How 2020 is that? What, they've already got, like, masks and COVID stuff on there, have they? He's sitting there holding up a sign, please stay at home.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Storyblocks are so with the times. They're so with the times. Oh yeah, they've got loads. They've got an incredible amount of that sort of stuff here. Social distancing and masks. Well, it's a reason to buy an extra large sofa, you see. That's the thing. You don't get a two-seater. You need a three-seater. Yeah, we're not
Starting point is 00:37:20 trying to sell sofas here, man. We're selling storyblocks. No, no, no. We're not trying to sell sofas here, man. We're selling story blogs. No, no, no. Sofashop doesn't even exist anymore and we're still selling sofas for them. So I'd like to introduce, I'd like to trial a new segment here, everyone. It's called Tim's Spoon of the Week. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Because as we heard in a previous episode, the crown jewels of the Hein family is a collection of spoons that I understand Tim now has custody of. And I want to get to know them better. You got a spoon for us today, Tim, from the collection you'd like to tell us about in a bit more detail? Well, tonight's spoon comes to you from Copper Art. No, tonight's spoon is a precious and unique spoon.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah. It's, drawing on your anecdote from the last episode, this is an Adelaide spoon. But I looked down and actually I looked at it as the Adelaide spoon. It's got the Adelaide coat of arms up the top. And I'm like, oh, that's a pretty general thing, Adelaide spoon, but I looked down and actually I looked at it as the Adelaide spoon. It's got the Adelaide coat of arms up the top and I'm like, oh, that's a pretty general thing, Adelaide. And then I looked down to the actual scooping part of the spoon. What do you call that part? Well, it's now called the scooping part.
Starting point is 00:38:37 The scooping part. I think people know what I mean. You've got the handle and you've got the scooping part. The business end. Two parts of a spoon. The business end. The business end. That's's right the bit that goes in your mouth yeah are people with me or do i need to start again i think i think we're i think we're with you i think we're with you i think imagine a spoon i think we're running out of ways to describe that end of the spoon so you mean the part where you hold it, right?
Starting point is 00:39:07 Is that what you're talking about? No, no, the other end Oh, damn it It's the non-holding end of the spoon The part where your fingers don't go That's right Now, it's sort of concaved. So inside it, not on the outside.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Right. On the inside. On the concave side of the scooping part. Right. That's right. It's the, it's got a little painting in there. Like it's all painted. It looks lovely.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Fancy. And it says the Festival Theatre. So this is a commemorative spoon from the Festival Theatre in Adelaide. Wonderful. Oh, it looks really dated. So it's really relaxing. It would look at home in a sofa shop ad. That's right.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Which means it looks very similar to the Festival Theatre today. Don't you be dissing the Festival Theatre. Listen to the last episode for my views on the Festival Theatre. It is the Sydney Opera House of Adelaide. It certainly is. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Look, this looks beautiful.
Starting point is 00:40:22 It's a little colour painting and it's inside with some lovely decorative areas around the edge of the concave area. Gold or silver, Tim? Gold or silver? It's silver. It's silver. Yep. I can't confirm it's literally silver. In fact, I'm almost certain it wouldn't be, but the colour is silver.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Do you know anything about its, like, origin story, or does this predate your memory? Well, it predates my memory, but I'm going to guess that this was something that mum and dad bought very early on in their relationship because mum and dad, you know, met and everything in country Victoria, but then because my grandmother was in Adelaide, they would travel over very soon, and dad had come, you know, from Holland to Adelaide, so they had a real connection here,
Starting point is 00:41:14 and I'm pretty sure this is something they would have purchased early in their marriage, which puts it, dates it around the late 70s. Nice. I wonder if it was a date. I wonder if they went and saw a show at the Festival Theatre and then bought a spoon as like a you know, to go for ice cream afterwards or something. I don't know. That's a good question. They're not show kind of people. I've never known them to go to a show apart from a school play that you and
Starting point is 00:41:40 I might have been in at school. Are there any commemorative spoons from those shows? From the school assembly hall. So it's unlikely they went to a show. It's more likely it was just a nice spoon from a tourist shop. Dad bought spoons from everywhere and liked different ones even from the same place. Sponsored spoons from everywhere and like different ones even from the same place. And so I think maybe he's just picked this up because of the unique feature of the lovely, colourful painting.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Painting in the scooping part. Scoopy-bick. Yep. So, people, thank you, Tim, for that Spoon of the Week. And another part of the Spoon of the week feature is the exciting news that was kind of hinted at last episode tim and i are having an unmade podcast souvenir commemorative spoon made yes this is exciting this is it's already i've been in negotiations with one of the uk's premier souvenir spoon manufacturers we've been talking all the jargon. We've been talking silver plating, enamelling.
Starting point is 00:42:50 We're in the design process at the moment. Wow. I think it's going to be another six to eight weeks until I actually have the spoon in my hand at the non-scoopy end, of course, because that's where you hold a spoon. But as part of Tim's Spoon of the Week, spoon but as part of tim's spoon of the week what i would like to do is have a random drawer like a like a chocolate wheel or a chook raffle and each week a souvenir spoon will be issued to one of our patreon supporters because you know it seems appropriate uh randomly or semi-randomly. It's going to be done randomly. But the way it kind of works is for every dollar you've ever contributed via Patreon, that gets you a raffle ticket and each week's raffle.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Oh, yeah. So the longer you've been around or the more you've given, the more tickets you have in the raffle each week. Oh, that seems fair. Yeah. But everyone's a chance. Even if it's just a single dollar you've ever given, you're in the raffle. Yep. Are you ready for our first winner? I am.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Can you explain a little bit about where this name's coming from? Are you flicking through them? Is it like our roulette wheel? Yeah, well, you... Literally pin them to the wall? You can decide and then I'll get a story block sound effect. Do you want to go with a spinning wheel or a roulette wheel to start with to decide this week's winner? Yes, I like the idea of the... What was it on Hey Hey It's Saturday with the duck?
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah, Pluck a Duck. Pluck a Duck. Pluck a Duck, that's right. Yeah, that's it. I like the Pluck a Duck spinning wheel. All right, well, let's go for that sort of Pluck a Duck style chocolate wheel. It's spinning, it's spinning, it's spinning. I like the Pluck-A-Duck spinning wheel. All right. Well, let's go for that sort of Pluck-A-Duck style chocolate wheel. It's spinning. It's spinning. It's spinning.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yep. And we have a first winner. And? Yes? If your name is Guido and you're from the Netherlands, I hope we don't have multiple Guidos from the Netherlands. Otherwise, one of them is really excited and he hasn't won. And the other one has.
Starting point is 00:44:46 But Guido from the Netherlands, when I get the spoons in six to eight weeks, you will be the first one to receive one. Oh, wow. I can hear squealing and excitement from the other side of the world already. It's a big deal. I bet the Netherlands is big on souvenir spoons too. They've got good tourist tat in the Netherlands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:07 It's very appropriate the first person is Dutch, seeing that the spoons were my father's and he was Dutch. Very appropriate. Yes. Very appropriate. Yeah. Nice. Congratulations, Guido.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And stay tuned for future spoons from Tim's collection. We'll include pictures, obviously, you know, in all the usual places. More spoon stories and more random spoon giveaways to Patreon supporters. That was exciting, wasn't it? I tell you what, Tim, I mean, this might be the way I finally get you to support us on Patreon because I bet you want one of those spoons. I would like one of those spoons, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Well, there's only one way to get one. support us on Patreon because I bet you want one of those spoons. I would like one of those spoons. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Well, there's only one way to get one. I actually have a spoon collection. For goodness sake. I'll sort you out. I might send you one. I might send you one of like the defect ones that doesn't work out properly. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:45:58 And the scooping end doesn't work or something? Is that what you're... Well, yeah, you know, the scooping. All right. Tim, i've had two ideas i can't decide which one to do which is very naughty of me because i tell you off when you say that yes so i i acknowledge that i'm being naughty here how should i just decide between the two should i just go with my heart should we let randomness decide or do you have a spoon can you flip a spoon i don't have a spoon to hand no otherwise i would flip it um but no i'm i'm without spoon i do actually i do have us i have some i actually
Starting point is 00:46:34 do have some sample spoons that were sent to me by the spoon manufacturing company so that i could check out their handiwork so let me grab this let me grab one of the demo spoons hang on So let me grab one of the demo spoons. Hang on. Where are you? All right. I have a spoon here. Do you want me to flip it?
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah. Well, hang on. You've got to say first, idea one is the scoopy bit up. Idea two is the humpy bit up. Okay. So idea one, concave. Idea 2, convex. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Here we go. Here we go. It's convex. That's Idea 2. All right. All right. So let me just put the spoon back in its commemorative plastic spoon case holder. Did they arrive with a security guard and, like,
Starting point is 00:47:23 a big briefcase chained to his arm or arm? No, we didn't want to draw attention to the shipment because it could have been hit by bandits. So we actually deliberately went low key. Very wise. So idea two, I had a couple of names I went with. It started off called Oh Brother Where Art Thou? Or He Ain't Heavy I went with, it started off called, oh, brother, where art thou? Or he ain't heavy, he's my brother. But then I decided I wanted to non-gender it, which would open up more options.
Starting point is 00:47:53 So, I went for something like sibling rivalry. But really, the idea is all about siblings. Because I read a story the other day in the paper. It was a while ago, actually. It was a month or two ago, where the previous pope, like the retired pope, who's now like the Pope Emeritus, Benedict. Ratzinger. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:16 He went on a trip to go and visit his brother, who was dying. His brother, sadly, has since died. But at the time, his brother was very sick and he went on like this sort of mercy mission to go and visit his brother. And I was like, the former Pope has a brother? I mean, I shouldn't be shocked. He's just like a human being. There's a good chance he's got siblings.
Starting point is 00:48:36 But it had never occurred to me that the Pope, like, you know, had a brother. And like also as we're recording, we're actually recording the day after the US president actually just lost one of his brothers. One of Donald Trump's brothers died just yesterday. And it occurred to me, I never really thought much about his siblings. And, you know, and I found myself going down the Wikipedia rabbit hole reading about Trump's siblings as well. And I read all about, you know, Ratzinger's sibling, which was really interesting because Pope Benedict's sibling was a Catholic priest. So imagine that, like in the family business.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, but your brother's the one that really did the business, getting the top job. So, and then, you know, it got me thinking, you know, I was like, oh, who is he? He was really famous. I looked up Elvis Presley, who did have a twin brother who died at birth, stillborn, which I think I'd known, but I'd forgotten. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, and did Neil Armstrong, one small step for man line,
Starting point is 00:49:46 he wrote well before the moon mission and ran it by his brother and said, look, here it is, what do you think? Which has caused all this controversy because Armstrong always said he thought of it on the moon just before going out the door. And his brother's saying, no, no, he wrote it down and showed it to me before. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Okay. I won't go down that rabbit hole. It was an interesting brotherly rabbit hole yep so i thought it would be a really interesting show i know we've touched a bit on brotherly stuff before with the bald ones and the like but yes it would be really interesting to just talk about the siblings of famous people or noteworthy people and find out if there's anything notable about them. That is a great idea. That is an interesting idea.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I'm interested already. Of course, you would not be featured on this show. You don't have any full siblings, do you? No, no. I have half sisters and it's, yeah, yeah. Well, maybe you'd get on the show then. Maybe later on when we started, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:43 When we dealt with everyone in the world who has full siblings. But I can hear somewhere I can hear your sibling groaning at the thought of stories coming up. I'm not going to put my sister through the ringer today. I hadn't even thought about that. But, yeah, obviously, you know, obviously I could tell a million funny stories about my sister, but that's what's good about siblings. You know, everyone can tell good stories about siblings. That's true.
Starting point is 00:51:10 That's true. Yeah, yeah. It was funny today to hear the news, today for me, I know yesterday for you, about the president, Donald Trump's brother. I have seen many documentaries about Donald Trump and heard quite a bit about his father and somehow missed along the way that he had a brother. I have seen many documentaries about Donald Trump and heard quite a bit about his father and somehow missed along the way that he had a brother. I knew he'd had the brother who died a long time ago that had the problems with alcohol because that's why Donald Trump always says
Starting point is 00:51:36 he doesn't drink because he saw what alcohol did to his older brother. But I didn't know about the other one. There's also sisters. One of his sisters was a really acclaimed judge. Oh, right, yeah. It must be fascinating for those who, and I know this wouldn't just feature famous siblings or the siblings of famous people, but it must be quite peculiar to be someone who looks quite similar to, in that familial way, and is close to someone who is ridiculously famous.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I mean, I'm not just talking about, you know, Tom Cruise having a brother or, I mean, that's one level, but the president or the Pope, I mean, it's just another stratosphere of global recognition where it does seem, like you said, strange. Oh, yeah, they've got something as common, as ordinary, as human, as a sibling, and that person would, you know, have known them since they were little and would be able to speak to them and relate to them
Starting point is 00:52:28 in a totally different way than everyone else on earth does. Yeah, knows the, sort of has the dirt. Your sibling kind of has the dirt on you too in a way that no one else in the world does. Because, you know, they knew you when you were young and not famous and stupid. And they've had, like, complete access to your upbringing, so every stupid thing you've ever done or said and, like, yeah, no one has the dirt on you like a sibling.
Starting point is 00:52:52 That's right. It's like he's out there as the statesperson, but I just remember him when he was, you know, he stole those cookies and, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Did that really. Yeah, exactly. Ordinary child stuff and young stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Do you ever think people become quite, because my siblings didn't grow up at the same time as me. They're much older from dad's first marriage. So I don't really get this. But do you, in other words, do you know them so well that you don't ever, like it's not like they would ever look, Tom Cruise's brother, look at him and go, wow, you're Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Like it's just, it would ever look tom cruise's brother look at him and go wow you're tom cruise like it's just it it that it would be totally dispelled do what do you mean can would a sibling ever be starstruck by their famous sibling that's right or have a sense of awe or is it always like i couldn't care less who you are or what other people think of you you're just my brother i don't i mean i don't know i i, not being in a, you know, around celebrities, but I feel very confident that if my sister became a superstar or if I became a superstar, neither of us would be starstruck by the other. I think it's very unlikely that you become starstruck by your sibling. I guess if your sibling became really famous and started hanging out with other famous people, you might be starstruck by those people. Yeah. But not by your sibling. I don't think so. I don't think that would happen.
Starting point is 00:54:12 That's the unusual thing about royals. I guess they grow up in a family of profound fame and people are fascinated by Harry and William. But, of course, neither one nor the other are in awe or peculiarly or thrown by the other because i'm not even sure you can be that impressed by your sibling like i think if you're like you know if your sibling became like the world's greatest basketballer or tennis player and they started you know winning wimbledon and things like that i still think of your sibling it's you've just seen them be good at tennis for years and like, oh, yeah, Roger Federer was always good at tennis, my brother Roger,
Starting point is 00:54:49 so of course he wins Wimbledon, you know. I don't think you'd watch him and think, oh, my goodness, he's like from another planet. How did he become so good? I just think all that is removed in sibling relationships. Which is probably a great gift to the person, to have family who are not impressed. Impressed, I think, is the word I was looking for.
Starting point is 00:55:10 What if, like, there was someone who was like your hero, like you loved Roger Federer, he's such a great tennis player, and then one day your parents pulled you aside and said, look, I've never told you this because it was a bit of a family secret, but Roger Federer is your brother? Then would you be impressed by him still? I would say there is no way in the world we share the same genes.
Starting point is 00:55:31 That is just not... Because his taste in music is just right off the charts. Yeah. And Tim's always had a stronger forehand than backhand. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah.'s always had a stronger forehand than backhand Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah, I can't wait, this doesn't make sense Yeah, yeah, I'm more of a Nadal relative, I think
Starting point is 00:55:50 I have heard about a guitarist, a guitarist in the rock band Midnight Oil Who found out later in life that he was adopted And after being a famous guitarist and whatnot in in with quite a career went looking for his sort of you know original connections and and birth connections and found a new kind of new brothers and sisters that he didn't know that he had and they had been to midnight oil concerts in their life so they've gone to seen a band and watched their brother performing without ever knowing it was their brother and only in his 40s or something made that connection.
Starting point is 00:56:29 And that would be quite surreal. Did you used to have a fantasy brother when you were young? Like, I wish I had this person as my brother or a hero that you wished was your brother. Like, I always wished being an only child at home, I always wished I had, like, an older sister and I always wished I had, you know, other people around and stuff. Did you ever wish for... Would this person, this pretend sister,
Starting point is 00:56:56 like, would it be, like, someone who existed? Like, oh, I wish Kylie Minogue was my sister? Or was it just, like, a pretend person or just, like, an abstraction? Like, I just wish I had an older sister who would you know ruffle my hair and an abstraction I did have a picture of Kylie Minogue inside my locker in year seven but that wasn't because I wanted her to be my sister right no because if she was my sister then I couldn't marry her so why did you fantasize about having a sister and not a brother? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I don't know. Probably because I had friends who were guys, you know, the friend round the corner and over the back fence and stuff. So you sort of got those around. Yeah. I did envy my friends who were brothers. Like I had some friends who were brothers and I was sort of equally friends with both of them and I kind of envied the fact that they seem to have cool adventures and stuff like that together but then i'd realize oh yeah they've
Starting point is 00:57:49 got to like share the back seat as well and i've got the whole back seat to myself and um long trips and they've got to share a bedroom and you know i've got my bedroom there was something about an older sister where it should be cool you know know, like and should have. Maybe it came from my cousins. I think that's why. I had older female cousins and they were cool. They had cool music taste and cool stuff and cool denim jackets. And I just kind of like the idea of it being a non-competitive kind of older person who would sort of say, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:20 inform me on cool bands and have cool stuff. Yeah, maybe that's the connection. Isn't it a story that Tom Cruise had an older sister and all her friends used to practice kissing on Tom Cruise before they would go on dates or kiss their own boyfriends? They wanted to learn how to kiss. They would practice on Tom Cruise before Tom Cruise was famous. I've never heard that story.
Starting point is 00:58:42 No. Am I making that up? It's not the first time people have made stuff up about Tom Cruise, that's for sure. It's also the first time I've Googled Tom Cruise kissing. Well, anyway, we'll leave that for people's own research. He's got a bunch of sisters by the looks of it, three of them. Siblings.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Yeah. Siblings. I've put it out there. own research he's got a bunch of sisters by the looks of it three of them siblings yeah siblings i've put it out there so tim i think it's time to end the episode uh should we play one should we replay one of alan's sofa shop oh yes uh jingles which do how we're going to decide which oh i know how we're going to decide which one yes here we go we'll decide so again uh concave side up or convex side up we'll decide which one it is which we've got the the scoopy side up will be the lounge mix and the humpy side up will be the blade runner mix here we go here we go you ready yes you're tossing it now ΒΆΒΆ
Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. you

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