The Unmade Podcast - 59: I Fought The Law

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

Tim and Brady try some citizenship tests, Unmade Colonel news, serious discussions, Law and Order, a mystery spoon, Castle Grayskull, Podbusking, and then more Sofa Shop covers from talented civilians.... Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to hover.com/unmade - promo code UNMADE at checkout - https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - access extra stuff and be in the running for cool perks - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/iorjch USEFUL LINKS Introduction music by Alan 'The Maestro' Stewart - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DZ06evO2TxBy8 Chariots of Fire white shorts - the film's opening scene - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UcFX1HmfMM See the moment Zach is sealed as an Unmade Colonel - https://youtu.be/G4EF3DDo7bk Jo - Tim's 2000th Twitter follower - https://twitter.com/joannanaddeo And designer of The Shroud of Tim - https://teespring.com/shop/shroud-of-tim Law and Order - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_%26_Order Check out our new Spoon T-Shirts and Stickers - https://teespring.com/spoon-unmade-podcast And this mug - https://teespring.com/spoon-mug-unmade-podcast Tim's Spoon of the Week - featuring Fairytale Castle - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Castle Grayskull - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Grayskull Busking in Adelaide - https://www.cityofadelaide.com.au/business/permits-licences/busking/ Sofa Shop covers by James, @OxBaptiste, Matt from Wollongong, Sindre, Mikko (C1D), Stuart, and Sam from Canberra.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 🎡 ¢¢ That was another version of The Sofa Shop, a symphony version from the maestro that is Alan Stewart. That's marvellous. That should be our theme song. It's just beautiful. I think it's a bit too good to be associated with us on any kind of permanent basis. Oh, wow. I thought it was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I thought of Chariots of Fire with that one. I could just see it cutting. Like if this was a television program instead of a podcast, it would cut to you and I running down the beach wearing white shorts, which is a marvellous image, isn't it? That's a nice mental picture you put into the listeners' minds there, Tim. Thanks for that. Yes, very nice.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So we have a lot of new Sofa Shop contributions from the civilians. And I think we'll do that towards the end of today's show rather than the start. Don't you do a thing until you see the Sofa Shop. And I think we'll do that towards the end of today's show rather than the start. So you probably remember in a recent episode, we had an idea from a Patreon supporter called Anna, which was her idea was to get people to do like citizenship tests. Yes. From different countries and things. That was a great idea.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We talked all about it. I've been having a bit of a rummage around this morning and I've dug up some questions from citizenship tests from different countries. And I thought maybe you and I could look through a few of them and see what we think, see how we go, see if we think they're good questions, see if we even may know some of the answers. Oh, now which different countries or just the two in which we dwell? I've got five questions each from four different countries. Oh. I've just cherry picked a few. So I thought maybe we'll just go through them and the civilians at home can also have a crack and see how they think they would have done. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Nice, nice. Got your brain switched on? I love a quiz. Is there a music round? There's not a music round as such. I'm going to start with some questions from the USA Civics questions from their naturalisation test. Oh, yeah. Now, I'll say from the start, there were lots of questions I could have chosen from.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I thought they were quite easy. And I think you would get most of them right being, you know someone who's interested in politics and american culture and that so uh i was surprised by how many of them had the answer the president like it was who does this the president who does this the president who it's almost like i was almost expecting a question to say you know who's the best looking guy ever? The president. There are lots and lots of them for which the answer is the president. I haven't chosen any of them. It's like even the person putting together the quiz can't help slipping into a little bit of propaganda on the way through.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yeah, a little bit of, yeah. Getting a bit carried away. They know where their bread's buttered. Anyway, let's have a look. Here are five questions that I chose just because I thought they were fun ones to choose. The first one I wouldn't have got right, by the way. This question is, how many amendments does the Constitution have? Oh, well, the Constitution doesn't have any amendments. The Bill of Rights is a list of
Starting point is 00:04:04 amendments. Isn't that right? My reading of it is a list of amendments isn't that right my reading of it is the first 10 amendments to the constitution are the bill of rights but there are other amendments right uh i don't know it goes into the teens and i don't know i don't think it goes further than that as i said i did not know the answer to this but the the answer is 27. Oh, right. Okay. I'm amazed. I also would not have gone that high. No. Here's one you might know, though.
Starting point is 00:04:30 How many US senators are there? There are two for every state, so there's 100. Correct. Who is the Chief Justice of the United States at the moment? Justice Brown. Is it John Brown? John is right. It's a very plain name yes smith or brown it's john roberts roberts that's it yes i've read one of his dissenting um um argument is dissents whatever i was just i was just i was just reading one on the way to
Starting point is 00:05:01 the podcast today actually i was just reading i've got him i the podcast today, actually. I was just reading. I've got him in my phone as Brown. I keep forgetting it. His close friends know him as Brown. It's to do with a really embarrassing high school incident. Here's one. How old do citizens have to be to vote for president? In the United States.
Starting point is 00:05:27 In the United States. Oh, look, I can't think of a reason not to say 18. I know their drinking age in many states is as high as 21, I believe. But I think voting was probably still 18. If I give you long enough, you'll manage to talk yourself out of it. So I'll stop. It is 18. If I give you long enough, you'll manage to talk yourself out of it, so I'll stop. It is 18. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And here's one I chose just because it's more my kind of question. You love all these civics questions, but for me it's all about the geography. Name one of the two longest rivers in the United States. One of the two longest rivers. Mm-hmm. A better question would be, can you name two rivers in the United States? There's the East River and the Hudson River. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Can I name? Oh, the Mississippi. I'll go with the Mississippi. That's the only other one that comes to mind. Correct. The other one's the Missouri. Oh, right. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:26 We're going to change countries now, Tim. I think you're now officially a US citizen. Let's see if you can get yourself into the UK. Now, the UK generally, I like to go more off-piste with their questions. It's called a life in the UK generally, I like go more off piste with their questions. This is, it's called a life in the UK test. And they have all sorts of stuff like who wrote this poem and things like that. There's lots of really cultural stuff. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I've just chosen five questions that I fancied asking you. Now, they mainly go multiple choice. I think some of these, if I give them to you as multiple choice it will be too easy yeah okay but where necessary i will but first of all let's start with one of the questions is which is where is the big ben located in london obviously it's in london where in london is the big ben located well it's it's inside the tower um, what's the tower called? Because the bell is Big Ben, isn't it? The tower is the clock tower. It's just called the clock tower, I think.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I think it's called, it's the Elizabeth Tower. I thought the other one was the Elizabeth Tower down the other end. But maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Anyway, that's not how specific you have to be, but you have to be a bit more specific than London. So what would your answer be? Well, it's the clock tower that's attached to Parliament.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Correct. The Houses of Parliament would have been the correct answer. But the multiple choice, they give you Buckingham Palace, Tower of London, Trafalgar Square and Houses of Parliament. That's what makes it even easier. Okay. Who is the patron saint of Scotland? Again, I can give you multiple choice, but i think it will make it too easy but
Starting point is 00:08:06 i will give you the multiple choice if you get stumped it's not sean connery but it will be the patron saint of scotland should know this, shouldn't I? Well, yeah, exactly. You know, call yourself a buddy minister. You don't know all the saints of all the countries. Call yourself a UK citizen. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Well, come on. Give me some multiple choices. I'll give you the multiple choices in the order they are listed in the quiz. Yeah. St. David, St. Patrick they are listed in the quiz. Yep. St. David, St. Patrick, St. George, St. Andrew. Well, yeah, okay, St. Andrew. Very good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:52 All right. Yeah. Silly me. I should have known that. That did make it a bit easier. Now, the next one is, who was the captain of the English football team that won the World Cup in 1966? of the English football team that won the World Cup in 1966.
Starting point is 00:09:10 If I give you the multiple choice, unfortunately you'll get it because you'll be able to get it by elimination. So I've given it to you without multiple choice to start with. Oh, really? Because all the other options are people like J.K. Rowling and David Beckerman, Baby Spice. Sean Connery. Her Majesty the Queen So that's not something you would know without multiple choice though is it? I guess you probably wouldn't know. No way in the world I would know that
Starting point is 00:09:34 No. But an English citizen may know it Anyway the multiple choice options are Sir Roger Bannister, Sir Jackie Stewart, Sir Ian Botham, Bobby Moore. I guess, well, it's Bobby Moore. The great Bobby Moore. The late great Bobby Moore. I assume he's great. If you make it onto the UK citizenship test, you've got to be reasonably great.
Starting point is 00:09:58 He was also the first member of the team to die. He died quite a long time ago. He died quite young, Bobby Moore. How often are general elections held in the UK? Every five years. Correct. Well done. Except if there's a debate around Brexit.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah, except most of the time. We've had three in the last five, I think. Is that right? What battle is commemorated in the bayou tapestry i don't know the bay tapestry so i'll say the battle of waterloo that is one of the multiple choice options you would know if you saw it it would come back to you if you saw it it's the famous one that's got halley's comet in it and the uh the the arrow in the eye and that sort of stuff it's the battle of hastings oh okay but the battle of Waterloo was a good guess.
Starting point is 00:10:46 They've had a lot of battles, haven't they? Let's be honest. They had. The four options were the Battle of Waterloo, Trafalgar, Hastings and the Battle of Britain. So they would have foxed you with the multiple choice anyway. Alright, Tim. It's crunch time. The Australian citizenship practice test.
Starting point is 00:11:03 the Australian citizenship practice test. Now, again, it's a multiple choice. I expect almost all of them you will know the answer to. There's one that's got me a bit foxed, though, so I've included that one, and there's one that you probably won't know. But generally, you would do quite well in this test from my reading of it. I've looked at lots of the questions.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Here we go. What do we remember on Anzac Day? And I'm not talking like Anzac Day obviously has a general purpose, but what specific event is commemorated on Anzac Day? That's a really good question. It's not the end of World War I because that's commemorated on, well, that's Armistice Day or the 11th of the 11th, Remembrance Day. But we, what's happened?
Starting point is 00:11:50 I imagine it's Gallipoli. No, that's the First World War as well. Now, why did they choose Anzac Day? It's moved around, though, I think, Anzac Day. 25th of April is Anzac Day, isn't it? It is, yes. It's generally the day that Australia commemorates the service of its veterans. And you were right, Tim, it's actually Gallipoli that is
Starting point is 00:12:11 the actual event, which is a famous battle from World War I in Turkey. A defining sort of moment for Australia because of the- You would definitely have got it right if I gave you the multiple choices because the other two didn't even involve war at all. Right. All right. This is the one that's got me a little bit foxed, actually. Which of these statements about state governments is correct? All states have the same constitution.
Starting point is 00:12:42 The states have no constitution. Each state has its own constitution. The states exist by virtue of the Australian constitution, but the states predate the nation, the Federation of Australia. So I imagine they each have their own constitution, but is it called, hmm, they don't exist by virtue of an act of federal parliament, so they must have been created? Come on, man. This is getting boring. Keep it light.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Sorry, the president. We're not doing a constitutional lecture here. And then there was the Act of 1912, which enshrined in law. The short, you can, well, obviously I don't know, but I'm trying to come to the best guess. And I think that any constitution that they had would be redundant by the Federal Federation of Australia, the Australian Constitution. So I'm going to say they have no constitution, but I may be wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Indeed you are. They have their own constitutions, apparently. I did not know this. Approximately what was the population of Australia in 1901, which is when Australia, when Federation happened? 3 million, 5 million, 4 million, 6 million. I'll go 3. It was 4, apparently.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I would have had no idea. It's now 20 million for people who are wondering. For people who are counting. That's right. Which arm of government has the power to interpret and apply laws? The power to interpret and apply laws? The power to interpret and apply laws. The legislative, executive or judicial? The legislative.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Ah, I think that's a bit of a trick question. It's the judicial that actually interpret and apply. Oh, sorry. I thought you meant... I misheard you. Yeah, sorry. Well, that's right. The judicial, because of the judge, they interpret and apply the law.
Starting point is 00:14:45 The executive is the government. Tim, I don't want excuses. I want correct answers. Now, who is the head of state? The president. Yeah. Sean Connery. Sean Connery.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Well, he's closer. The head of state for Australia is the monarch. Indeed. Correct. I'll tell you what's interesting. In the Australian Constitution. Everyone, I'm just going to put an edit point here, everyone, while Tim does his usual talk about the monarchy and head of state
Starting point is 00:15:23 and all that sort of stuff. Okay, Tim, go ahead. We'll talk about the monarchy and head of state and all that sort of stuff. Okay, Tim, go ahead. It says in the Constitution, right, which was adopted like 100 years ago, it says the Queen and her successors. So when you read it now, it reads very relevantly, but, of course, it was referring to Queen Victoria. So it is literally the Queen and her successors.
Starting point is 00:15:47 So there you go. Interesting trivia point. Because in the multiple choice thing it does say the queen as well. When did the first fleet arrive? 1788. Correct. Finally, let's do a New Zealand citizenship test. Are you ready? Yes. What song has the lyric da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- first to climb Mount Everest? Edmund Hillary, actually. Correct. Blank on his name then. What are the short little people with big feet called from Lord of the Rings?
Starting point is 00:16:39 Ewoks. Ewoks. Ewoks. Ewoks. What confectionery... This is important knowledge, by the way. I used to live with a New Zealander, and this is one of the most important things I learned about New Zealand. What confectionery is flavoured with chocolate, caramel and pink marshmallow?
Starting point is 00:17:03 Well, they invented the pavlova, so I guess you're going to say pavlova. No, it's called the pinky bar, man, and next time you're in New Zealand, make sure you get a pinky bar because they're awesome. Oh, okay. Yeah, he used to order pinky bars from his parents back home and they'd send him pinky bars
Starting point is 00:17:21 and I'd always have a couple because I love them. Finally, about New Zealand. In what year is it projected that New Zealand will get electricity? Just burning off listeners. I had a whole bunch of questions in there about the Underarm incident, but I cut them out. A bunch of questions in there about the Underarm incident, but I cut them out. By the way, speaking of all things sort of citizenship and civics related, people may not be aware if they don't sort of follow us in the other, you know, online sphere and they just listen to episodes.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But I have actually finally done the official certificate and sealing of our first unmade colonel, that being Zach. Yes. I'll put a link in the notes if you'd like to go and watch a video of the moment that Zach officially becomes an unmade colonel that now exists. Have you watched it, Tim? Special moment. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I stood and watched it. You stood?
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah, oh, yes. Did you have your hand on your heart? I hope you weren't wearing a hat. I had a chicken in my hand, so I was unable to put it against my heart, lest it stain the oil on my shirt. You held a drumstick against your heart. You're not nice. I'd like to propose our second unmade kernel, if I may,
Starting point is 00:18:36 and then let you – and, you know, obviously by proposing it, I've approved it, but it requires your assent for it to happen. Well, who have you got i think joe from canada she's done multiple pieces of artwork for us she's been on the show she's a loyal civilian i think i think she qualifies for unmade colonel status well is there are we gonna have we got a citizenship test for for civilians to become colonels? Do you think we should have an unmade podcast? Citizenship test?
Starting point is 00:19:09 I think there should be. Colonel test. It seems to be in vogue for countries to have some kind of litmus test to test people's commitment. I mean, I know it's difficult for her to show any more devotion. No. Half the questions will be about her anyway. Drew the Shroud of Tim.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Well, I did, correct. Who was Tim's 2000th follower? Yeah, it's Jo again. It's like the president. She's like our president. I think on this occasion there can be a recognition of prior learning applied and I think she can be waived directly through. She doesn't have to do the test because of, yeah, she's been grandmothered in.
Starting point is 00:19:56 That's right. That's right. All right. Joe, you're in. Well done, Joe. You're an unmade colonel. And she gets for that a special certificate with the seal. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:08 The unmade seal. Brady, this is right. And you'll be filming this again and the signing and sending it off to Joe. Yep. It will all be done at some stage. Congratulations, Joe. If we could all now be upstanding and hold a piece of chicken to our heart. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:22 and hold a piece of chicken to our heart. That's right. Okay, Unmade Podcast. So what we sometimes do here on the show, occasionally, is talk about ideas for a podcast. Tim, have you got an original one or are we going to have to strike you from the record again for doing an old one? Well, as you know, I've been moving house.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yep. No, and I'm just kidding. This has nothing to do with it. I have been a bit unwell this week, and so I've been watching a couple of episodes of the classic show, favourite show, Law and Order. Insert cool Law and Order sound effect here. Oh, it's magnificent. It takes you right back. And I tell you, I've never, ever, ever, ever been disappointed
Starting point is 00:21:14 by an episode of Law and Order. And for some reason, I've never, ever, ever, like, watched one accidentally again. Like, I don't know how this has happened, but I just randomly jump around the seasons, and even though we watched it seemingly, I felt like we spent all the 90s watching Law and Order, I never seemed to go, oh, I've seen this one before and move ahead. So they must be either good enough to grab you. Maybe they're just forgettable. Maybe you just forget them. Well, that's part of
Starting point is 00:21:40 their genius then, isn't it? That's marvellous, because you get to enjoy them again. They're like self-destruct messages in Mission Impossible. You watch them and then they just instantly erase themselves from your memory. You could just sit and watch the same one eight times in a day and not know what happened. Maybe that's it. I watched a couple today. Maybe I watched the same one twice and I don't know it. Maybe they've only ever made one.
Starting point is 00:22:05 They do have a similar kind. When you watch several in a row, you start to really see the acts and the scenes and how closely they and tightly, predictably, they structure them together. You pause for the joke here, you wait. You know, they are constructed in a very, but in a very enjoyable way. It's predictable enough to be enjoyable. I assume you're only talking about like the classic originals in New York
Starting point is 00:22:29 and not all these silly SUVs and, you know, Law and Order on the Moon and all these weird spin-off series they do later on. No, that's – I've never – I won't tolerate any of that stuff. I don't go anywhere near that. This is just the primary original original, good, analogue sort of episodes with Lenny, Lenny Briscoe. Lenny, on you Lenny. So anyway, I was watching a few of them today and the thing that struck me, firstly
Starting point is 00:22:59 was about the seriousness of which they speak and then also going to the judge and the way the judge speaks and the way the lawyer speaks. The only thing I'm taking from this is the observation that the greater authority you have, the more understatement you need to use in the way you describe things and pronounce things. For instance, all the way to the president, the president needs to have, right up to the current president, you need to have a certain presidential voice, an understatement. And at the moment in between this, you're putting on the news and you're having senior economists come out and talk about the economy and you're having senior
Starting point is 00:23:35 medical people come out and talk about COVID-19. And they're all using a certain wonderful tone that has a lovely understatement to it. And I love the idea of gathering a few of these people, and I don't really know how you talk about it. They're sort of experts, professionals, senior economists, senior lawyers, senior statesmen. So this could be sort of statesmen discuss popular culture. So I just love the idea of them coming together
Starting point is 00:24:07 on around a particular piece of popular culture and giving it a serious observation. Right. Like I went for a drive today and I was listening to some hip-hop, right? And as I was listening to it, I was thinking there's only really two themes to hip-hop tracks. And I was thinking how would it be described by the particular senior economist, you know, from the Reserve Bank that I'd seen on TV a little bit earlier on. And I was thinking he would summarise, if he was listening to all this in a line, which was essentially along the lines of, my life seems to be going quite well at present.
Starting point is 00:24:45 That's basically the premise of every hip hop track. My life is going well. I have sufficient money. I have sufficient cars. There are several females who are willing to spend time with me and be free. You know what I mean? Like it's – and then there's the other line of track, of the hip-hop track is, my childhood was marked by conditions consistent
Starting point is 00:25:10 with poor socioeconomic status and crime. So I love the idea of them coming to discuss something from popular culture in a deeply serious and understated way. Yes. So, like, Jay-Z appears to have 99 things that are causing him inconvenience. Yeah, that's right. His partner is not one of them at this point.
Starting point is 00:25:39 At this juncture. At this juncture. That's right. Disjuncture. Metallica's Enter Sandman is essentially this young person seems unable to gain the rest, sufficient rest, that their body requires to regenerate for the coming day. It appears that her dairy beverages bring males to the drinking place. But I also love the idea that they could look with a critical eye over songs that seem to make assertions,
Starting point is 00:26:19 like particularly lawyers and police officers could look with quite serious. Like I was thinking of Bon Jovi's song, You Give Love a Bad Name, where he's saying, whoa, you're a loaded gun. And I was just thinking, well, hang on, this doesn't sound safe. Hang on. Are you saying she's got a loaded gun? There's nowhere to run.
Starting point is 00:26:38 No one can say me the damage is done. Shot through the heart and you're to blame. And I'd say, well, hang on a second. We need to unpack this. Has she shot you through the heart or you're going to shoot her through the heart? Look, that's a threat. We can't have that.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And they start to unpack. So I love the idea. There's something in this about statesmen and seriously people. Serious people talking about unserious things in a serious way. That's right. I mean, you could do that with police doing sports commentary too, because police never like say what happened in an interesting way. So you would always have like the footballer decamped the centre square
Starting point is 00:27:15 in an easterly direction. That's right. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's an idea there for sure. That's fun. It'd be funny.
Starting point is 00:27:25 In your like imagination of this podcast, like, are the people in on the joke? They must be because they're smart people. Like, you know, it's not like you're going to have, like, some world-famous economist coming on to talk about hip-hop music and not be in on the joke that they're kind of, you know, being overly serious and technical about. No, that's right. Or maybe one of them can be. They've got to be in on what they're doing, but I would love them to analyse it in a serious way. I particularly like the idea of the lawyers, you know, testing the veracity of claims that are made in pop music, you know, claims about, you know, greatness and looks and who I am and who you are and what you've done to me.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And so, well, hang on a second, let's just unpack this. Well, like relationship experts would be funny people to talk about songs too because so many songs are about relationships. Like what is this person's problem? What are they really feeling? Sure, that's what they're singing, but let's go deeper. Yeah, psychologists too. Just listening to the going, oh, this person,
Starting point is 00:28:24 there seems to be narciss, oh, this person, there seems to be narcissistic tendencies in this particular rap lyric. And I'd want this person to, you know, to be exploring. They seem to have problems with their father. And I just wonder whether some of this can be processed through using this particular method. It appears Mr. West has very high self-esteem. That's right. All-esteem that's right all right that's right i thought about the term i thought the law and the law won because there's a the sort of the lyric and the law but that's not a very good name i don't think oh man far i was a bit worried there that you weren't going to give it a really bad title, but you finally delivered the goods.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Some cryptic title that appears to have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the idea. I started off, I went looking for albums and songs that featured the word law because I started thinking about it from the law, you know what I mean, and going out from there and thinking about Howard and Old Cop. And I started off with Bob Dylan's Street Legal album. I'm like, yeah, that's good. And then I could hear you telling me, no, that's no good.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So then you landed on I Fought the Law and the Law Won. Nice. That's right. You can tell me, if you'd said my idea for a podcast is I Fought the Law and the Law Won and gave me a thousand guesses as to what the podcast is about. I would not have got it right. But that's the genius of it.
Starting point is 00:29:51 That's the genius of branding. Just keep it vague. I swear if you released a brand of shoes, you would call them gloves. All right. Well, on that note On Tim's podcast, I fought the law and the law won Let's move on I'd be surprised if it doesn't already exist That's what I'm saying Time for a sponsorship message
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Starting point is 00:31:02 Wow. It cost me $12.99 and I registered spoonoftheweek.com. Oh, really? Because the phenomenon that is Spoon of the Week is growing. And even though we haven't got a dedicated website yet, that could be coming. And also, even if we don't, we do have a page on the Unmade Podcast website where we showcase the Spoons of the Week. So I can just divert using Hover.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I can divert spoonoftheweek.com over to that. And then it will just land on the pictures of all the spoons we featured. Ah, brilliant. And, you know, saying spoonoftheweek.com is so much cleaner, better thing to do than telling someone, I'll go to this place and click on that and use this number. And, you know, you just want to keep it easy. I want to keep it simple. You know, domain names and domains are how we communicate this stuff. So I've got spoonoftheweek.com and I'll be diverting it to our spoons of the week. And if you at home have an idea, you've got like a social media thing
Starting point is 00:32:00 you do, a YouTube channel, maybe you've got something on another website or webpage you want to divert to, why don't you consider getting a nice domain for it and diverting it there ahead of maybe something bigger and better down the road? A little bit surprisingly, I've come on to Hover here and found that ifoughtthelawandthelaw1.com is available, actually. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:21 You want.fm if it's going to be a podcast. You know, they've got the.fms there. They've got all the possible suffixes you could want. .ninja. I fought the law and the law won.ninja. Well, it's not literal fighting, man. You need to understand it works at the metaphoric level. .global.
Starting point is 00:32:41 That's probably the one you'd get. Why don't you just bash the keyboard a few times with your fists and register that? I assume that's how you name your podcast ideas. Hang on. I'll bash it again with my eyes closed this time. You know how there's that thing where they say, you know, if you put a monkey, a thousand monkey and a thousand typewriters and let them type for long enough, they'll come up with like the works of Shakespeare eventually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I think Tim uses that monkey algorithm to name his podcasts. Whatever the monkey bashes out. We need a podcast name generator. That's what we need. We need to be able to... Yeah, that's what you are. Random podcast name generator. Not a random one. I'm not a random. It's what you are. Random podcast name generator. Not a random one. I'm not a random.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It's an insightful one. Seems pretty random to me. But anyway. What if we got well down the track and I suddenly realized that my list of ideas and list of names had been like out of sync, you know, they've been misnumbered. So I've been reading the wrong name for the wrong idea all the way through. And you'd be like, ah. That would explain so much. That explains everything. That's right. Go to hover.com slash unmade.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Or you can use the offer code unmade. You'll get 10% off your first purchase with Hover. Seriously, they're a great supporter of the podcast. They're a really great service. i seriously use them all the time and thank you for supporting the show hover hover.com thank you unmade yeah and that brings us to spoon of the week you can go to spoonoftheweek.com to have a look at the featured spoon this is a a weekly dive into the the Hein family vault to see the precious precious spoons that have been collected over many many years that Tim has inherited that we will showcase before we talk about this week's spoon can I just point out that after last
Starting point is 00:34:41 week's talk all about uh the anatomy of the spoon and all the different parts the drop the shoulders the bowl the handle the tip and all that we have made some uh some merch some t-shirts and mugs and stickers and things that really go deep into how a spoon works if you want to check them out i'll put some uh links in the show notes yeah they look good yeah they do look cool don't they they? They look really good. Yeah, they look abstract. What do you mean abstract? They're like really clear and...
Starting point is 00:35:09 No, not abstract. But if you didn't know them from any context, you'd look at them and go, well, that's just a cool-looking design, irrespective of the connection to the podcast. What I'm saying is that you could wear it and not necessarily have it associated with us and get away with it.
Starting point is 00:35:24 They're very cool. I highly recommend them. Have you ordered one yet, Tim? I haven't, actually. What I'm saying is that you could wear it and not necessarily have it associated with us and get away with it. They're very cool. I highly recommend them. Have you ordered one yet, Tim? I haven't, actually. I should do that. I was saying I need to sit down with the kids and order some. Order their Christmas presents.
Starting point is 00:35:38 That's right. That's right. Okay, Tim, what family jewel you Pulled from the archive this week Well this week Brady we've got What I'm calling the Fairy tale castle spoon Well Tim I don't think you're Calling it that it's got fairy tale castle written on it
Starting point is 00:35:58 I think the maker of the spoon called it that Well that's why I'm calling it that You see these guys These guys are a lot better at naming things than i than i am tim would have called it but i fought the law on the law one spoon it's it's um tell me about the fairy tale castle spoon tim what's going on here well it's a bit of a mystery spoon to be honest it's of the spoons, one of the few in the entire collection that I have no idea about or where it came from. And even after talking to my mother and Googling, we have no idea from where it has come.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I mean, it's come from Fairytale Castle, but we don't know what Fairytale Castle is and where it is and why we've got the spoon. It's a complete mystery. It's a fairytale. It is. It is a fairytale. It's some sort of magic spoon that's just appeared in the collection. We have no idea from where and whence it has come. On the back, we look at some engravings in the back. What did you call that one other time you said it was? Hallmarks sometimes can be.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Hallmarks, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, it's extremely small. So even with the light from my phone, I found it very hard. But it does seem to say something like Ring Chrome Sheffield, England. And so that seems to be, you know, people that made it. And so that might suggest if it's from England, you're unlikely to get an English firm to make something that's somewhere else. So perhaps somewhere in England is Fairytale Castle.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Did you take me to a Fairytale Castle that I've forgotten about, man? I mean, there are many places in the world I imagine called Fairytale Castle, tale castle did you take me to a fairy tale castle that i've forgotten about man or no i mean there are many places in the world i imagine called fairy tale castle maybe to help people who can't see the picture do you want to talk us through the look of the spoon yeah okay so it looks like a spoon it's got a scoop no the bowl and a handle it has a very ornate bowl this one has like sort of a a shell design at the bowl. It is. It's a lovely shell-designed bowl.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And the lovely thing is the pattern can be seen and felt on the inside and the outside of the bowl. And then you move up the handle. Up the shoulders to the stem. Up the shoulders to the stem. Has a nice fluted stem. It is, it is, yes. And although on the back it's extremely smooth, it's just only to be felt on the front until we get
Starting point is 00:38:35 right up to the top where there's a small little pattern and then there's a circle and it's got a castle, a pretty traditional looks like a medieval-styled castle. It's not elaborate. So, this is not, don't think like the castle in Disneyland or anything like that, even though fairy tale makes it sound like that. This looks a bit more staid, a little bit more quite old, actually. I think you're being unfair. It's got a couple of nice turrets.
Starting point is 00:39:00 It's got flags flying. I think it's like a decent castle. Oh, yeah, but it's more military rather than princess fairy tale kind of thing. Yeah, okay, yep, okay. And it has a Tudor sort of look to it. Blue enameling for the sky. Red enameling where it says fairy tale castle underneath. Yeah, yeah, a little bit of green grass there.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Oh, yes. Yeah. So, look, it's it's colorful it's nice it's of a certain quality but i have absolutely no idea where fairy tale castle is and and maybe only your dad knows if if he if he was if he was to come back and join us for just a few more precious moments yep and you could ask him any one question would it be where was fairy Castle? It would be hard not to. Talk about wasting your question. Son, I love you so much and I'm back for just one question.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Ask me anything. Oh, yeah, this is Fairy Tale Castle's food. It's a spoon. Where did you get it? Well, you see, I sent a photo to mum And she has absolutely no idea She can't remember It might predate her
Starting point is 00:40:12 Well, that's right Maybe it's, um, maybe dad was in a fairy tale Maybe, yeah, maybe there's a whole story There's a whole, like, thing going on we don't know about Involving fairy tale castle She wondered if it was Dutch But then I said, mum, but it's not written in Dutch. You know, like it's if it was in Holland. Yeah, but they would do tourist stuff in English for the tourists.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And of all the European countries, like you're most likely to find English in the Netherlands. Was your dad Dutch, by the way? Was your dad Dutch? He was. He had some connection with the Netherlands, yes. He had been there. It looks a bit new, though. That's the suspicious thing about it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 It does look new. It looks a bit shiny compared to all the others that are in the collection. Well, maybe it's made from some, like, magical substance that doesn't tarnish. Oh, maybe. Maybe it's real, magical substance that doesn't tarnish. Oh, maybe. Maybe it's real steel. It certainly doesn't look- It's a Valerian steel from Game of Thrones. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Wow. I don't know what that is, but that's a special kind of magic steel, is it? Yeah, well, it's pretty good stuff. It's the good stuff. Do you know what I was thinking of when I was thinking of the castle and lovely castles that are valued over the years? Because I love a castle. I was thinking of the castle and lovely castles that I've valued over the years, because I love a castle. I was thinking of Castle Greyskull. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Now you're talking. He-Man and Skeletor used to fight over. And Skeletor was always wanting to get inside. Who lived there? So, did He-Man live there? No, He-Man didn't live there. But I thought that someone lived there that special person i think and um i remember her name i think it's like like a girl
Starting point is 00:41:51 you know like a spirit lord princess person oh yeah or something right oh geez but anyway did you ever own the castle gray skull castle the toy, the toy? No, I didn't. No. I was not allowed to have He-Man toys. I remember at one stage, my parents decided that He-Man was like a bad influence. So I wasn't allowed to watch He-Man. Oh, yeah. But the message didn't get through to my auntie.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And then for Christmas, my auntie got me a He-Man toy for Christmas. But not only did she get me a He-Man toy, instead of, like, getting me He-Man or something, she got me Skeletor. So I, like, unwrapped his present at Christmas and it's, you know, evil-looking Skeletor with his, like, skeleton face from the show I'm not allowed to watch. I think it was a bit of an incident. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:42:39 That explains so much about the way you've turned out too. Your parents were right, really. I know. It all went wrong after I got that Skeletor toy. I don't know what happened because it never became my toy. So I don't know if it was like, I think it was just quietly put away somewhere. I think it went to the farm. He was quietly arrested, taken away for questioning.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Oh, dear. Yeah, no. Do you regret that you never got to own the castle? Yeah, I do. I was actually thinking of it before and Googling it up and looked at it and went, oh, jeez. And I was half going, oh, I wonder if I'd get one of those for the girls. But I don't think they'd be interested in it at all. You can't just get one for yourself, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Well, I could, too. And then it would sit there and I'd go, well, what are you doing with that? And I'd go, well, I bought it. I'd have to find an excuse. And the excuse would be, well, I bought it for the girls. Oh, I've done. I've bought things from my childhood just for the sake of it, just so I can, you know, scratch the itch and then just put it in a drawer and never used it again. I've done a little bit too. I often do that with um uh like i look at skateboard decks and things like that that i really wanted that i had even cut out and
Starting point is 00:43:52 pinned to the wall that i would love to have bought but were way too expensive that i could never have and i've often thought about buying one or two of them and putting them up as pieces of cool sort of 1980s you know know, nostalgic art in my house. Now your transformation to the midlife crisis is complete. That's right. And I've thought about getting the pads and going skateboarding again and just throwing in my job. It's not right for people of a certain age to still be skateboarding. I was just having this conversation last night.
Starting point is 00:44:23 There needs to be, like like some kind of limit. I can't. I've been Googling this fairy tale castle too. Civilians, there'll be a picture in the go-to. Go to spoonoftheweek.com. Have a look at the picture of the fairy tale castle spoon and help Tim solve this family mystery. So, Tim, we have to give away a spoon.
Starting point is 00:44:43 We are currently still in the design and manufacturing process but we are having Unmade Podcast souvenir spoons made and we'll be giving them out to supporters and this week's winner is Corey from the USA.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Corey's from the state of MD. Do you know what state MD is? MD. Do you know what state MD is? MD. MD. No. I reckon. Massachusetts. Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Massachusetts. What does it start with M? Maduri. Malifornia. Madifornia. Medexus. Washington. Maryland. Maryland. Maryland. Meduphonia? Medexus? Washington? Maryland.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Maryland. Maryland. Yeah, right. Okay. Congratulations, Corey from Maryland. Corey. That's such a great name, isn't it? That just conjures up for me.
Starting point is 00:45:40 That's the 1980s skateboard name. That's an awesome name, Corey. It is. That is a skateboard name. That's an awesome name, Corey. It is. That is a skateboard name. Yeah. Because of all the Corys, like Corey Feldman and Corey Haim and all that. Corey Haim, yeah, yeah. Have we got time for an idea from me before we do these sofa shop covers?
Starting point is 00:45:59 We've got time for a quick idea from me. Oh, I think we better. I think we better. Yep. So my idea is called, no, I was going to come up with some ridiculous name, but I won't. My idea is. Leave that to me, man. Leave that to me.
Starting point is 00:46:14 My idea is called go busking. They can go to, you know, Trafalgar Square or Covent Garden or Rundle Mall in front of the mall's bowls, put a hat on the ground and just ply their trade for passersby who may throw a few coins in the hat. Why cannot Tim and I, if our way of entertaining people is podcasting, start becoming podcast buskers and just take a couple of chairs, go out into Rundle Mall, put them down, just start talking to each other with a hat between us, just having banter, talking about the sofa shop, talking about He-Man, things like that, whatever we want to chat about. And people who are wandering by can just stop and listen to us for a while,
Starting point is 00:47:17 have a little smile, learn something new, maybe do a quiz. And if enjoy it, just chuck 50 cents in the hat and go about their business, continue their shopping. Why can't podcasters be buskers too? Well, that's a really good idea. Well, there's no reason why you can't, of course. You could just, yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Do you think people would stop and listen to us? No. No. Why not? Are you crazy? But this is the silly thing right people will listen to music online and download it and stream it and buy albums and if they see music being played in public they'll stop and listen to it too people will watch a magician on netflix or on tv and that and if they
Starting point is 00:48:00 see a magician in covent garden doing a show hundreds of them will gather around and watch people will listen to us do a podcast thousands of people Covent Garden doing a show, hundreds of them will gather around and watch. People will listen to us do a podcast. Thousands of people listen to us doing a podcast. Why won't they just stop in the street and listen to us as well? I don't know. Maybe it's because we're good enough to listen to while you're doing something else. I don't know if we're good enough to stop doing something else
Starting point is 00:48:22 to listen to. I mean, I know that. Well, you do. Because people watch on YouTube as well. And so that's an added bonus. But you don't have that with you when we're sitting there. But maybe we can give it a go. I think it should just become a thing.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Yeah. People will just. And it could catch on. And then people will just spontaneously start. Oh, should we do a quick podcast busk and just start talking and invite people to come around and listen. Those people can't talk or join in, obviously, because that's not how podcasts work. You've just got to stand there and listen. So there's no interacting as well.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So it's not like you're playing to the crowd. You're literally just, you're, whatever the premise is, two, three people, one person, the podcast, you're speaking it amongst themselves. Yeah. I think this is an idea worth testing. Yeah. You think we should go out and do a bit? A bit of busking?
Starting point is 00:49:12 I think we should. Yeah. I think we should. I think Rundle Mall, the mall's balls, we get a permit, we get registered, and we go in and do it. Go and do it? Oh, yeah. That'd be great.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Put down, can we put a guitar case in front of us for people to put the money in? I don't know if you're allowed to use a guitar case unless you're actually playing a guitar. I think that's one of the busking, like, rules. You know, there's like a code. Do you think it would work better having microphones set up and be talking into microphones
Starting point is 00:49:38 or just be talking, like, with no microphones? I think the danger of us just not having microphones is that people just think we're just a couple of guys that are standing in the mall talking, which is something... I mean, there's nothing wrong with doing that. Tim, we've been podcast busking all our lives. We did do that for many, many years. We didn't know it was a podcast It's got to look like a podcast
Starting point is 00:50:07 I mean, you could obviously, if you were doing this for real You could record it and then release the recordings as well But I think there's something more pure about the fact You could only hear it if you were there Oh, yeah, no, I like that idea It only exists in that moment It's a true podcast Like tears in the rain
Starting point is 00:50:24 You could do it. You could do it. Sitting down at a cafe with a couple of coffees. Another name for this podcast is having a conversation with someone. I do love the idea, though, of like chatting for 20 minutes about like a spoon and then asking people to give you money, which is kind of what we do. Patreon.com slash Unmade FM if you'd like to support the show. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:56 That's exactly right. That's right. I do like that idea of just going, well, come on, here we go. And just talking about something for a while. I like the idea of a podcast. And then you come back to the same place, like next Friday at 3pm, we'll be here standing here again, talking again. And then you get people that just love coming and listening.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Oh, those two guys are going to be talking in the mall at 3. We'll do it in people's lunch break. What are you doing for your lunch break? Oh, I'm just going to Rundle Mall. There's these two guys that just talk about spoons each Friday afternoon. It's great. Oh, that's great. That is.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Well, people do it with stand-up comedy, don't they? Why not do it with a podcast? People go along and pay, and you want to hear someone talking and so forth. You could hear a recording. Would we call it busk casting? Busk casting? Pod busking? Pod busking.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Pod busking? It busking Pod busking? Doesn't quite land as well Yeah, you got a better name? I thought the law and the law weren't good So, it's time Tim It's time for the sofa shop covers Yeah, let me say, these are impressive I just continue to be quite astounded at It's time for the sofa shop covers. Yeah, let me say, these are impressive.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I just continue to be quite astounded at what we're receiving. You're so nice. You're such a nice guy. You wouldn't say if you thought they were rubbish. Well, obviously, several of them are rubbish, but I'm just... I'm impressed by how rubbish they are. No, they're not. No? They're marvellous.
Starting point is 00:52:22 They really are. All right. I know you can do a heck of a lot with, you know, like a laptop and garage band and a full orchestra these days, but, yeah, they've pulled out some beautiful versions. There's a couple of things I want to note about these, but let's listen to them. I'll go through them and tell you what the people wrote
Starting point is 00:52:40 and then you can tell us what you thought. The first one I'd like to talk about, Tim, came from James. Dear Tim and Brady, I've become a huge fan of the podcast since discovering it at the start of 2020 UK lockdown, and it has been a soundtrack to my summer, a weekly-ish glimmer of wholesome positivity in these dark times. I'm neither Dutch nor Canadian, but I hope you'll accept my submission nonetheless. I'd like to take a moment to thank you both for bringing the musical masterpiece known humbly as the Sofa Shop Jingle
Starting point is 00:53:08 into the global consciousness, forever changing the landscape of international music and culture. I hereby formally submit my own interpretation of the golden melody to the archive, a simple and honest instrumental which I hope captures the gravitas and emotional nuance of the original 1990s recording.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Thank you for keeping us entertained. Keep up the excellent work. Thank you. I like this one. It's like it's from like a fantasy adventure film or something. That's what it makes me think of. Yes, yes. This is very strong. I like it indeed. Lovely work. Lovely creativity.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Not terribly unlike some of the others we've heard, but certainly has its own tone, its own feel. Thank you. I sort of picture myself just like walking through a forest at quite a fast pace with like a quiver of arrows on my back. Yes. Anyway, let's have another one. We're getting back to the jingle, man. What did you think of this? It's better than you and I running along the beach in white shorts. At Cambridge.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Come on. All right. How about this one, Tim? We've actually got two submissions here. Someone called At Ox Baptiste says, Hi there, Brady and Tim. I've just made this silly little YouTube channel called Sofashop Music Only, and it's exactly what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Two songs are on there at the moment, but I plan to post a new one for every new episode of the Unmade Podcast. That sounds like one of those ideas you tweet out because you think it's a good idea, and then you just quietly hope people forget you suggested it. But you're on the record now, baptist that's right and the two first ones that are on there first of all we have this one which is kind of a bit of a sort of a rag time one it's the closest we've had to anything sort of country sounding so far This is excellent. Again, it's gone for something quite unique, and I admire that.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's just a different sound. Yeah, very nice. And here's another one. This is the only one we have with singing in it. This is a ballad version. The sofa shop is your only stop for the sofa you need The Sofa Shop Come on, drop in
Starting point is 00:57:22 We have a sofa designed for you Choose your fabric, match your curtains too The sofa shop ain't gonna cost What you think it will Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop Well, I think extra marks for including the vocals because, and I'll say this to future submissions as well, you get extra marks for singing along. That adds something altogether. That's a whole other level really it's not required it's not it's not required but you know it's something you know it
Starting point is 00:58:11 does put a little bit more more humanity into it and of course it gets the message across of the sofa shop jingle which is all important and that is well that's that you can choose your fabric and match your curtains too would you you listen to the Beatles without the vocals? Well, yeah, I probably would, yeah. Okay, well, fair enough then. Now, this one comes from Matt. We're about to get a bit rock and roll here. Matt says, my name is Matt and I'm from Wollongong in New South Wales, Australia.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I absolutely love the show. Oh. I absolutely love it. You okay? You step on something there, man. I just said, oh, Wollongong. It just suddenly sounded so close. I've never been to Wollongong.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I had a friend who lived there for a bit, but that's all I got. You haven't got a Wollongong spoon in the collection? Not that I've seen, no. Wouldn't it be amazing if it turns out fairytale castles in Wollongong? That would be a big coincidence. That would be incredible. Anyway, getting back to Matt. I absolutely love the show.
Starting point is 00:59:09 There are no other podcasters out there that have such a great and genuine chemistry as the two of you do. It's a pleasure listening every week. No other podcasters. That's amazing. That is amazing. We definitely need to start this busking thing, man. We'll make a killing. That is amazing.
Starting point is 00:59:23 We definitely need to start this busking thing, man. We'll make a killing. That's right. At first, I was a bit intimidated covering such a monumental anthem, but after hearing the fan covers of The Sofa Shop, I thought, they're rough. No, he says, but after hearing the fan covers of The Sofa Shop, I couldn't help but share my take on the song. So here is a rock style cover of the tune.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Hope you both enjoy. Thanks for creating such a fun podcast that's matt I like this one. In fact, this is the one that came quite close to my own playful attempts on the guitar in the bedroom. Right. Which I have to say Matt has done in a far superior fashion than I did. But I did have a bit of a play around when I was fiddling around with the sofa shop and
Starting point is 01:00:47 I came up with something similar to this. This is new information. When are we going to hear one of your renditions? Would you like to hear one of mine? I didn't know I was allowed to be part of this. Well, I don't know. As a co-host of the show, you have quite a lot of power here. You're quite influential just because i can do something doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea
Starting point is 01:01:14 oh no i i did not say it was a good idea i just said are we gonna hear one you've certainly made a lot of hay with some of my other attempts on the guitars. I need some new material. Matt's vision is quite close to my vision, so I'll have to go away and do a little bit of experimentation and see what I come up with. That's convenient that all of a sudden you've got a vision and a way to do it after hearing Matt's. I said I'd have to come up with something different. I might have to pitch in a different direction.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Might we hear this in the next episode? Might is the word I'd emphasise in up with something different. I might have to pitch in a different direction. Might we hear this in the next episode? Might is the word I'd emphasise in that sentence, yes. Okay. Here's something a bit different. I won't play it all because it's very long, but this comes from Sindra. I just listened to episode 57. I wanted to share a song I put on YouTube over a year ago.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Now, I'm not a musician, and I hope it does not seem like the music is just slowed down as there was a bit more to it than that. It's probably too long but there are parts in it that I find quite beautiful. Best wishes. P.S. I have started occasionally singing the original Sofa Shop jingle as a lullaby for my soon half-year-old baby girl sometimes it even works interesting so this one is called vape this is called vaporwave is that like a genre of music i don't know but here it is That's a bit, you know, out there. That's experimental, that one.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. It's ambient, but it's fulsome. And yeah, yeah. In the right mood, on the right place. Yeah. Nice. I like the idea of people going to sleep to the sofa shop jingle. I wonder if that, like like puts ideas in your head subconsciously and the next morning you wake
Starting point is 01:03:05 up with this like overwhelming desire to buy sofas. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Or the dreams you have. Imagine the dreams. Oh, yeah. Curtains.
Starting point is 01:03:14 All those. Curtains. It's a very. This hasn't cost what I thought it would. I didn't. This hasn't cost what I thought it would. It's a very comfy, I mean, sleeping on a sofa is magnificent, you know. So a sofa comfy enough to sleep on is a lovely idea. So listening to, literally going to bed, listening to a song about something that you can lay on to go to bed, to sleep on is a lovely idea. It's just like inception levels of comfort.
Starting point is 01:03:48 That's right. Why don't we listen to songs about sleep if we're trying to get to sleep? Yeah, there aren't a lot of songs about sleep, are there? What are they called? Lullabies. That's what lullabies are really, aren't they? Yes. Hence the PS, I've been using the jingle as a lullaby for my soon half-year-old baby girl. I didn't hear her say that. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Are you tweeting again during the show? Are you paying attention? I actually was playing with the spoon. It's so shiny. I wish I knew where that castle was. Anyway. All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Mikko says, hello, Tim and Brady. I'm a Finnish architecture student and a hobbyist composer. I make electronic ambient music with the artist name C1D, but I also compose more classical music as my electronic music has many classical aspects to it. I'm a big fan of the podcast and I've listened to it from its beginnings. Unmade Podcast is perfect for my many quiet or boring situations from dull university work to long drives. This is a symphonic poem, a symphonic poem version of the Sofa Shop jingle that I made. It is unfortunately performed by a synthetic orchestra, but to me, it still sounds pretty fantastical and symphonic.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I tried to use the Sofa Shop theme very impressionistically with luscious harmonies and dramatic twists. All this packed in under two minutes. Hope you like it. Mikko. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah, no, this had quite... I love the idea that this had several things going on at once at a couple of places, you know, where he was heading off in different areas and there were different sounds coming in.
Starting point is 01:06:18 You can tell that he's a deep thinker. ΒΆΒΆ It was a journey. It was more a journey than anything. Yes, with layers. Layers, like an onion. All right. Here we go. Stuart, hi, Brady and Tim. Over the past few months, I've been trying to help my 15-year-old son
Starting point is 01:07:41 with his GCSE music. Although I play various instruments, I never did much music history at school. So this has been an education for me as well as my son. Recently, he's been telling me about the Baroque musical style. So when you did your feature on the sofa shop, I felt we should have a go. Knowing that you're a man of refined taste, Brady,
Starting point is 01:08:01 and are currently on the hunt for a pair of sofas, we present you with ye olde georgian sofa shop shop with a e I can imagine us sitting around a big banquet table listening to that one with big piles of KFC in front of us. Oh, I look forward to that. Yes. Oh, yeah. Classy.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Beautiful. Highly sophisticated environment. Yeah. I think that's lovely. Definitely sitting on leather chairs. Yeah. And the wonderful thing about KFC is having it with some really nice wine. No, no, it has to be big steins of beer being brought to us.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Oh, is that what you picture? I'm thinking like, you know, blackout, a banquety type picture. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does that mean we're wearing tights? Well, you in these white shorts, Tim. All right. Last but not least, Sam. Hi, Tim and Brady.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Love the show. Can't thank you enough for the enjoyment and laughter you've added to my life. The other Sofashop covers have been good, but they were lacking a bit of punch. I felt it was only right to turn my amp up to 11 and let the world hear the true power of the Sofashop jingle. If this doesn't get you hyped up for some furniture shopping, then nothing will. Guitars and bass recorded by me.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Drums were done electronically. No hard feelings if this doesn't make it onto the show. I had a lot of fun making it, and I'm just happy to share it with someone. Much love from Canberra, another Australian. Much love from Canberra, another Australian. Much love from Canberra, Australia, from Sam. P.S. Don't worry, Tim. I also can't play money for nothing.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Nice. so so Well, you know, the thing about this one, I like it a lot. Firstly, it was tight and exciting. The funny thing about it, though, is it's, despite being the metal version, it was actually the happiest version I think we've heard yet. Like, it was just really joyful and bright and happy. So I sort of like that. Is that a genre, joy metal?
Starting point is 01:11:07 Joy metal. A lot of metal bands tune their guitars down. So they sound heavier and they sound fuller. And obviously, you know, they're often sounding angry. It's fulsome. But, yeah, I quite like this. It was actually quite, yeah, joyful and happy. It's great. Very well actually quite joyful and happy. It's great.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Very well done. Nice and tight. But I was about to say also, Sam, from all the years I've known Tim, the highest compliment he ever can pay to music at the sort of semi-professional to amateur level is to call it tight. So the fact he's called your music tight is a really big deal. You should be really proud of that. It's true.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Is it? I say that a lot, do I? Yeah. Well, yeah, that's your go-to compliment for music. Well, I like it not being, it's not messy. I do like music that's messy, like Sonic Youth, where it goes off in different directions. But I like the idea that it was well put together.
Starting point is 01:12:06 It wasn't clumsy. It had a quality and efficiency to it as well. All right. Well done. Much like this episode of The Unmade Podcast. Indeed. Tight. Not a single wasted word.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Thank you very much. Keep the submissions coming because I cannot tell you how much joy they are giving Tim and I. I've been driving around. I listen to them. When you send them through and then I'll be driving somewhere and I'll listen to them. And it's just fantastic, one after another. And then, of course, I'll just sing. I'll go into whatever shop I'm heading to and I just keep singing the song in the style of whichever was
Starting point is 01:12:45 the the the one that made the greatest impression on me so it's really funny unmadefm at gmail.com is our email address uh thank you everyone I think uh I think we're done I think that's everything still waiting for the country version that's what I have to say say. And even a bit of an old country version, you know, like a city sort of, you know, like inner city Brooklyn-y kind of Sufjan Stevens or Ryan Adams kind of, you know what I mean? Country, you know, that kind of hipster. Something like that would work as well. But just something that leans more into the country area. Were you sneaking in some secret words then? Maybe.
Starting point is 01:13:32 A cleaner here just to say hello to, just a second. You always have the cleaner visit. Yeah, yeah. Hello, ma'am. Hello.

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