The Unmade Podcast - 63: The Bump (Do Not Whip)

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

Tim and Brady record an episode at Rosetta Head (The Bluff) in Victor Harbor - and visit a magical cave. They also discuss names, spoons, and ten-pin bowling. Go to Storyblocks for stock video, pictures and audio at storyblocks.com/unmade - and maybe find that perfect Tim look-a-like - https://www.storyblocks.com/unmade Support us on Patreon - if you dare - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/jfj8cz Bump Merch - https://teespring.com/the-bump-unmade-podcast?tsmac=store&tsmic=the-unmade-podcast&pid=790&cid=103521 USEFUL LINKS YouTube Version of this episode - https://youtu.be/Ed_reSLQzYY Photo gallery of pictures from our adventure - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-63-pictures The Bluff in Victor Harbour - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Head Victor Harbor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Harbor,_South_Australia Granite Island - https://bit.ly/2Tcc17K Sleepy Lizards - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiliqua_rugosa Our Steep Holm episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JlYRjVZlMo Encounter Bay - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encounter_Bay All Spoons of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Loch Sport - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch_Sport,_Victoria Ten-Pin Bowling - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-pin_bowling Plus... We have created some 'Bump' Merch in honour of Brady's sister - https://teespring.com/the-bump-unmade-podcast?tsmac=store&tsmic=the-unmade-podcast&pid=790&cid=103521

Tim and I have just spent the last hour or so driving to a place outside Adelaide called Victor Harbour. It's where we are now. Beautiful views. It's a beautiful day. Beautiful views across the Flurio Peninsula. Pretty gorgeous, yeah? Oh, it's a lovely day. It's a magnificent day to get the Unmade podcast outside. It's nice. A bit windy. A little bit of wind, which we're a bit worried about on the microphones. Well, you get that in the wilderness. I mean, that's, you know, you come out back like this.

A bit of trivia about Victor Harbor, Tim. You told us the other day about your parents having their honeymoon at Lakes Entrance in Victoria. Yes. My parents had their honeymoon here at Victor Harbor. Wow. Yeah. All out. Lake Entrance isn't looking so bad now, is it?

And my mother now lives in Victor Harbour. So later on, we're going to go for a coffee with her, which will be fantastic. That will be fantastic. I'm looking forward to that. So Victor Harbour, for my money, Tim, it has two main landmarks. Granite Island, which I might tell you some stories about later on, which is a big flat granite island which i might tell you some stories about later on which is a a big flat granite island just off the coast joined to the land by a causeway that an old fashion horse-drawn tram takes tourists over to nice little day trip but for me the real highlight of victor harbour is the thing we're standing on now, and technically its name is Rosetta Head, but everyone, anyone who's anyone, knows it as The Bluff.

Yes, The Bluff. It's a big headland at the end of the harbour. It sticks out into the sea and is a big dome, big granite dome structure with greenery all over it. And it's the highest point in Victor Harbour by quite some measure. And it's really striking the way it goes out into the sea it's a real it's the real uh you know signature landmark of the area i think you're overstating it to say that we're standing on it this would be barely base camp i think we're at base camp we're down at the car park the public car park

looking up it's looming over us like everest it's looming yes and uh so we're gonna go we're down at the car park the public car park looking up it's looming over us like everest it's looming yes and uh so we're gonna go we're gonna go for a wander all over the bluff today that's going to be the site of today's podcast and we'll have a few ideas while we do it and talk a few things tim may even have a secret spoon stashed away in his pocket if we're lucky and there's a very special place hidden on the bluff that we're going to go to afterwards if we can find it and if it still exists and things like that we won't give away too much we're doing this without sherpas today yeah we're carrying our own microphones yes we're carrying all our own gear i have spare batteries uh in my little gilet here so i'm like

the uh i'm the real pack horse of this trip. You'll be carrying me down too. Yeah. So as we look up towards the summit, there's a small smattering of tourists I can see on the paths and that, but it's fair, we've got most of the thing to ourself. Do you think we can make it up there to the summit? And where is the exact summit? How will we know when we reach the highest point? Because from the angle we're on here, it's almost like there's two homes.

It's a bit camel-like. But there's a false summit. We'll have to see which one's the summit, which one's K2. All right. Well, let's start walking up. And as we walk up, I'll tell you about my first idea for a podcast. How's that sound? All right.

Let's do it, man. Careful there. So, Tim, I'll tell a family story. You know it, so you're just going to have to pretend you're hearing it for the first time. Oh, do tell. I love this story. But many, many years ago, we came to Victor Harbor, as we often did. And my sister, she had a mental blank, I think, for the name of the bluff, the word.

And she was referring to it. And she said, oh, it's really good. Can we go to the bump? The bump, she called it. Which, what a view that is out there. Look at that, Tim. Take a picture of that. Hang on.

Now, I'm sure, in fact, I know for a fact, she kind of corrected herself straight away and knew she'd made a mistake. But what older brother was not going to seize on that moment to be fair it is it is bump-esque it is it is yeah yeah oh look sleepy lizard oh look at this oh sleepy lizard sleepy lizard i'm trying to get my video well this is incredible australian wildlife that we're coming across here look at that sleepy lizard slowly slowly crossing the path and now a giant crocodile has just come across our path go on sleepy lizard i'll put that on the youtube version of this uh of this podcast look at that tread

carefully man you never know what's going to jump out of this sleep as the name suggests sleepy lizards are uh not the most formidable foe but do you think we need to go up that path to the right to go to the summit or do you think we keep going this way uh well let's go this way we'll go the higher way all right friends we're leaving the path if you don't hear from us tell the search party that we took the left turn yeah we should leave a trail of breadcrumbs or something i'm so excited about that sleepy lizard tim that was a beautiful lizard wasn't he was just cruising across so anyway the bump so forevermore this feature this famous landmark of south

australia the bluff in my family is called the, yes. It's mainly to, you know, give my sister a hard time. The wonderful thing, of course, is that I told my family that when we first came and have reminded them of it ever since. And so it's kind of become the name for our family too. Oh, it's catching on. It's transferred. Yeah. So look at that view, Tim.

Wow, that's a beautiful beach. Lovely. And look at the coastline sweeping away into the distance another photo picture of Tim looking looking noble stop checking your are you tweeting I was about to take a photo of you taking a photo oh you can do that and I'll take a selfie of us summit behind us not long now oh it's like mallory and irvine they'll just find our bodies here years later so my idea for a podcast of course is what other names places things are there in your family or amongst your friendship group that are unique to your friendship group that may have been born of a mispronunciation and miscommunication and misunderstanding i'm sure there are lots that's a good one that's the sort of thing gets picked up and used and becomes second nature doesn't it really yeah

i know many years ago south road which is a main road through the suburbs of the southern part of Adelaide, we noticed that there were quite a few billboards all the way along advertising the film Braveheart with Mel Gibson. Yeah. So we started to refer to South Road as Braveheart Straight. as Braveheart Straight, which I still now sometimes instinctively refer to it as if I'm just driving or explaining where to go. Slow down, man. I can't tell my stories. Sorry, man.

I want to push on before dark. Yeah. How about we set up camp here for the night? Yeah, we could do a little bivac. Yeah, before we do the last 10 meters tomorrow. So another famous example I've mentioned before on the show, Edwin Aldrin's sister, when he was a little boy, couldn't say the word brother and always called him Buzzer. And he became known in the family as Buzz.

Wow. To the point where he changed his name to Buzz Aldrin, second man on the moon. Oh, that's great. He legally changed his name. That's why it's in the official records. Yeah, but he didn't legally change his name until after the moonwalk, to be honest. Oh, right. So when he walked on the moon, he was Edwin Aldrin.

So disappointing to get to the summit and find other people here. Yes. Including little kids. Do you feel like the bluff has been commercialised? Too many tourists. Like Everest. There's a queue of people waiting to get to the summit.

Here we are. This reminds me, actually, the last time that we were out in Flora and Fauna was on Steepholm wasn't it? Yes. Oh look he's a he's a plaque to him. It says in commemoration of the meeting near this bluff between HMS investigator Matthew Flinders, who explored the coast of South Australia, and MF-led geographer Nicholas Bourdain. April 8, 1802. So these are the two famous explorers, English and French,

who were both, you know, charting the Australian coast. And they had a rendezvous here, which is why this beautiful bay behind you, Tim, is called Encounter Bay. Oh, yeah. Because of the encounter. I didn't know that. That's also why Investigator Strait is called Investigator Strait, because of HMS Investigator, Flindership. Where's Investigator Strait?

That's the one between us and Kangaroo Island. I notice here on board the Investigator was John Franklin, who famously was one of the two sports teams at school, Light and Franklin. Oh, yeah, yeah. Were you in Light or Franklin? Light. Oh, okay. Yeah, and you were the captain of Light. I was the captain of Light.

You were our sports star. Sorry to interrupt. Why are you laughing? There we go. Yeah. So I think the highest actual point is on top of that boulder over there. The second boulder. So we probably need to climb up on that boulder, don't we?

Yeah. Looks a bit dangerous, though. So he's unveiled by His Excellency Lord Tennyson. I think that's a different Tennyson to the one that most people... I'm going to do a bit of free solo here, man. Oh, careful, man. Oh, hang on. You're not using ropes. No, no. It's not my style. I'm gonna do a bit of free solo here man. Oh careful man. Oh hang on. Oh you're not using ropes. No no it's not my style. I'm a solo. Do you want me to stand back and take a photo?

I'm gonna get a picture of you on the summit man. That's uh the highest point in Picta Harbour. Before I get blown off. Oh it's windy up here. And down I jump. She was getting behind this rock, so we're out of the wind. Yeah, yeah. So while we're crouching down behind this boulder, you've got a spoon on you for Spoon of the Week.

Oh, now? I've just crouched down. I can't get it out of my pocket now. Tim's standing up again that noise you may have heard with his knees all right here we go crouching again there we go what do you got oh it's golden yep yep golden golden yeah it's a beautiful uh spoon yeah it's uh gold all the way down in many ways quite plain but fitting gold which is i think always looks best when it's a bit simple yep um there's a lovely a little pattern on the back but otherwise it's quite plain from the scooping bit all the way up the handle to the is it the head is that what it's called or the bluff the bluff of the spoon

new nomenclature the opposite end to the scoopy bit is the bluff is the bluff yeah that's right and uh this is a spoon from lock sport lock sport which is a small very much like victor harbour tourist or even smaller than a tourist town in gippsland near taralgon where i grew up and we used to go to Locksport on holidays to see friends a bit like you might have come down to Victor Harbour yeah small little town that just exists pretty much for a bit of tourist work in the summer a couple of things to say about Locksport the first one was this we used to go down there because friends had a holiday house down there yep but it was just shocking

because of the mosquitoes there were mosquitoes like you wouldn't believe yeah and um i actually came to resent going so it's lockers in lock nest lockers in lake so it was a lake was it yeah lock sport and sport as in sport that you play it's kind of part of the lakes it's it's about 50k from lakes entrance which we had last time so it's sort of part of the lakes. It's about 50km from Lakes Entrance, which we had last time. So it's sort of part of those lakes. But it's very small. It only has about 800 people that live there. Now, the actual spoon itself, people will be interested in, is green with a yellow kangaroo.

Well, no, the spoon's gold, but the enamel, the enameled bluff, is green enamel with a yellow kangaroo and lock sport with a red background. Very simple. Very simple. Very Australian sort of looking. In some ways, it looks like a cricket bat handle, you know what I mean, like a simple design. When you first pulled it out, I thought it was going to be like something to do with the Olympics or that yellow kangaroo was made really famous in 1983 when Australia won the America's Cup

and that yellow kangaroo on a green background became kind of a real emblem of Australian sport. Yeah, yeah. So looking at that now, it looks kind of sport, 1980 background became kind of a real emblem of australian sport yeah yeah so looking at that now looks kind of sport 1980s sport kind of a yeah the cool thing though is i looked up lock sport right just to say well i remember going as a kid haven't been for a long time a lot of mosquitoes everyone who has a a beach house down there um has a veranda that they sit under a porch but it's all covered by mesh and wire so you don't get attacked by the mosquitoes. Right, it's a real mosquito problem. And it's just like, why do we come here?

We always go home absolutely covered in mosquito bites. But anyway, I looked up Locksport. The first thing that came up on Google was the question. You know, Google has its questions, and it is, is Locksport a good place to live? And I nearly didn't click on it because I thought, well, of course, it's a beautiful beach sort of place. And the answer comes up, no. sport a good place to live and i nearly didn't click on it because i thought well of course it was beautiful beach sort of place yeah and the answer comes up no it says and i'm reading

literally from google not a good place to live there are lots of backstabbing and small town syndrome stuff this has been written by someone really snarky hasn't it lack of facilities and a long drive to sail which is a town nearby, to do shopping. The town has nothing really. No light life. Socially isolated. That's what Google thinks of Locksport. I think that's incredibly frank and honest, isn't it?

Nothing really. Nice spoon. Locksport. Not a good place to live. No. Decent spoon. It's amazing they have a spoon, isn't it really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what is the threshold for a spoon? If you're going to get, there's lots of backstabbing. I wonder if you get backstabbed with a spoon. How bad,

how painful would that be? That would be bad. So Tim, we also have a winner of a unmade podcast spoon for when they're finally made we're doing a random draw oh yep yep uh we've we've carried our huge random chocolate wheel all the way to the top of so we'll start spinning it and tell you who the winner is here we go the winner is gleb gleb from from california that's all I know. Gleb. That's the only name I've got. California is kind of the lock sport of America, isn't it? Is California a good place to live? I would say probably yes.

Parts of it. Oh, yeah. Well, maybe not so much at the moment with all the vias, but. It's a bit bigger than lock sport, I think. Yeah. So well done, Gleb. You too will be sent a spoon, an unmade podcast spoon when they're made. It's windy up here.

center spoon an unmade podcast spoon when they're made it's windy up here so another story about my sister's very early days of struggling with words you know she's only a little girl gee she's a well of stories she's a well of stories we used to have lots and lots of video cassettes in our house of things we'd taped off the tv star wars superman bmx bandits planes trains and automobiles all the films you loved as a kid. Yep. So she decided to go through all the videotapes. They would have a section of masking tape along the side with the name of the film written on it and she decided to go through and designate which ones shouldn't be recorded over, which ones shouldn't be wiped, so she picked all her favourites and wrote on the side of them, Do Not Whip, W-H-I-P, Do Not Whip.

So we had all these video cassettes with Do Not Whip written on them. And true to my idea I was saying earlier, things that get renamed because of funny mistakes. Yes. For years afterwards, we would always jokingly say, if there was a tape or something we wanted to make sure wasn't erased, we would say, make sure you don't whip that one. Do not whip that one. And I have to say, there was a tape or something we wanted to make sure wasn't erased we would say make sure you don't whip that one do not whip that one and i have to say you know that is a classic and and and uh they never were whipped they weren't they were not they were neither whipped

nor wiped they were kept intact let me take another picture up here for the for the video and for the podcast so people can see what you're looking out here actually towards the ocean we're really at we're at the southern part of south australia the southern part of australia the only thing you're going to get further out that way is antarctica yeah that's next stop next stop next stop antarctica big blue ocean big Big blue sea. You're right. Shall we go to this secret place now? Now, this is a very special place, really, which also has its own legendary name. Down there, isn't it? I'm going to have to blindfold you from this point, man.

It's so secret. All right. What are you doing? You walked yourself. Well, I'm into parkour, you see. I'm diving and jumping and somersaulting. You're into parkour. Clampering over boulders.

Boulders? Just how do you spell parkour so I know what to put on the form when the ambulance comes? I'm not sure. So we're heading off to kind of like, we're going downhill from the summit now, out towards the sea. And there's another little jut of land that comes off this headland. That's what we're heading towards. Hey hey how are you? G'day there. You been down there? What did you see? Just a lizard. You saw a lizard? Oh. We saw a lizard over that way. What's that for? That's for recording voices. We're making a recording of our trip. And you've got some binoculars there. They look like pretty good binoculars. What can you see with the binoculars?

I saw a danger sign down there and people. Yeah. Have you been to the summit yet, to the very top? No, but I just got scared. As soon as I saw the lizard, it was right there in the distance. You were scared of it? Was it a sleepy lizard? No, it was awake.

No, no, no. But what did it look like? It had the red colour of it. It was black with spots of yellow. Oh, was it big and thick, like like a log or was it small and thin um kind of in between okay i probably wasn't a sleepy lizard then best best to be careful step back all right well have fun but lizards are okay lizards can't hurt you so you'll be right but you're gonna go to the top all right go to the other way or yeah you can go it is a bit more

steep to go down that way than around. But you can just go up to the summit and then come back. You go to the top and there's a plaque there about Matthew Flinders and you can see off to Victor Harbour. It's really great. Alright, have a nice day. Always good to mingle with the fans. Just keep going, it's behind those big rocks up there yeah i hope i haven't sent that old lady to her doom

so yeah we're heading down to this lower lower part i shouldn't be telling these secrets should i no no forget that make a note to erase that brady yep no pictures of this part as well i wonder if even humans have been over this part before apart from that kid and his grandma and whoever whoever put that bench there if this wind is as strong as i fear it is in the microphones this is going to be like a patreon only uh experience oh look sleepy lizard again no stop stop stop stop let's let's stop stop see if we can get see if i can get a video before he gets away wow this place is infested

with sleepy lizards we've seen two heard reports of a third well sleepy lizards. We've seen two, heard reports of a third. Well, sleepy lizards like to sunbake. So they go out on the path and sunbake until humans come by. And then they slowly move into the... So he would have just been sunbaking and then we ruined his sleep. That's two sleepy lizards. That's a podcast of sleepy lizards. I've got to stop and do up my shoelace, man. All right.

Careful. One false step around here. You'd fall over on the grass. Do you know what any of these other little islands are called? I don't know what those little ones are called, no. They look cute, don't they? So this used to be a big whaling spot back in the days. Oh, yeah.

The bluff itself, I believe, had a whaling station on it there are signs out today about whales we should keep our eyes out yeah this is a whale spotting area it is come to victor harbour to see whales let me tell you an amazing story then no this is neither the time nor oh hang on okay go ahead so i mentioned gran Island, which we can just see now. It's a big, big flat island, much bigger than the Bluff. So years and years ago, Tim, I went to an Aussie Rules football game in Melbourne at the MCG. Yes. With some mates.

And sitting behind us were, I think, a couple of girls. We got chatting to them. And they were tourists wanting to see what Aussie rules football was. So we explained how the game worked to them. And they were Dutch. And one of the girls who was Dutch... Your dad was Dutch, wasn't he? I believe he was, yes.

Her next stop was Adelaide. So I said, well, if you come to Adelaide, look me up and I'll show you the sights. You know, being a good tour guide. So when she got to Adelaide, she called me and said, do you want to Adelaide look me up and I'll show you the sights you know being a good tour guide yeah so when she got to Adelaide she called me and said um you know do you want to do something today it was really bad weather but I'd heard there were whales down here at Victor Harbour so I said oh why don't I take you to Victor Harbour we drove down here the weather was awful grey skies rain there was no one here you could see a couple of whales and and I said I'll show you Granite Island we walked across the causeway to Granite Island in terrible rain there was no one here you could see a couple of whales and and i said i'll show you granite island we walked across the causeway to granite island in terrible rain there was no one on granite island

it was absolutely deserted and i said well let's walk around to the back of granite island which hardly anyone does because it's a bit of an extra walk and it's hard work but maybe we'll see you know we were both young and fit and maybe we'll see some whales and that so we walked all the way around to the back of granite island how Howling, howling wind, terrible rain coming straight from Antarctica. We were cowling from the wind. And then the first humans we'd seen on Granite Island coming from a distance started walking towards us. This figure came walking towards us from a distance the other way along the path. I'm like, what other crazy person would be out on Granite Island at this time?

They got closer and closer and closer. When they got closer and made eye contact with us it turns out it was some woman who was on holiday from holland who this girl i was with knew and lived in the same street and she was like i can't believe it it's gladys from rotterdam they had this they had this big reunion like at the southernmost point you could be in the middle of nowhere in this terrible weather like oh it was incredible incredible side of the world incredible coincidence like you could not have picked a more remote less likely place to bump into someone you know all right we're we're amongst this rocky outcrop now right down i can feel it we're getting closer lower on the bluff where is this place is it down that way or is it down that way it's in the more precariously located areas you need to be careful i think i can see it is that is that it there that's it there

is that it i think so yeah yeah well that looks dangerous i know what were we doing down there all right let's see if we can get back there all these years later all right we are doing it one-handed now because we're holding our microphone they They totally need to make a Netflix documentary about this trip. Absolutely. Two jerks on a bluff. Wow. It's more spectacular than I remember, Tim. What can you tell me about the geology around here, man? I'll tell you what.

If you want to make a good podcast about mispronunciations, before we got here, Tim called up the bluff on Wikipedia and started reading the science history of the Bluff to me. Yeah. Some of those words you were pulling out, man. I think... Not 100% sure. You started mispronouncing words you knew how to pronounce. You said granite instead of granite.

Well, you'd think Wikipedia would have better spelling. It is mostly granite, obviously. Is that really... Is that it? I think it is. Did we really go out there? Yeah. That looks dangerous. We're going to need to get a chopper to drop us off. Can we get there?

We're going to have to put our microphones in our pockets. I'm actually beginning to wonder if we can do that. We're not the sprightly young lads we once were. What's that? Look, come on, I've crouched down and got up again a couple of times already today i feel like i'm in form yeah we can do it we will have to put our phone i'm just taking pictures to send them to the media so that this is the guy in case he's unrecognized yeah we can get there you don't think all that red moss is slippery it won't be slippery no it won't be slippery it's just sort of that rusty stuff all right let's start but i think we better

i think we better put the uh you're joking aren't you we've got to record it didn't happen if you don't record it even though it means we've got one less hand so something you think we're not sure we can do you now say we have to do one-handed no you're right maybe we should well let's just see what the way down is first maybe there's a there's another way around that side i'm gonna go and see if there's a path down this way yeah it's easier down this way man all right we won't we don't feel like we won't have to abseil down boulders this way some lovely flowers around here we're out of the wind too which is nice some real real rock clambering going on going on now this recording is ever found do you reckon down that way i reckon oh look there's a path down that way oh there's a path oh we're risking our lives about

four meters away from a path oh look there's a tourist train here we go this looks a bit safer down the ski lift i'll cut this part out about the path chip and pretend we abseiled down those rocks that's right there's still going to have to be a bit of rock clambering at the end there is an incredibly helpful and smooth path yeah the path ends here though man what do you reckon down we've got to get we've got to somehow get down i reckon i'm going to slide down this rock do you yeah keep yourself low low center of gravity because this stuff could be slippery.

I think I'm going to roll down. This is where my new Adidas Ultraboost 20s are coming in handy. Did you remember several episodes ago I complained that Adidas hadn't brought something out for the cool middle-aged man? Yeah. Well, they've delivered. These are awesome. Let's have a have a look yeah they're not bad they're not what do you mean not bad whoa get low man get low keep low keep low can i have your shoes if you die all right keep low all right this is this bit's going to be risky

can you do this, man? Don't do anything you're not comfortable with. Yes, I can do it. All right, I'm not sure I can do it. This is where my parkour training comes in handy. All right, here we go. Yes. Proper free solo.

Nice work. We're close now. Ow! You good? Yep. Yes, yes. Listen, people, can you hit? If I'm quiet for a second, you'll hear the sea below us churning, calling for our death. The sea was angry that day, my friends. And now we're coming to the entrance to this magical place where you kind of have to get down on your butt to shimmy in. Oh. magical place where you kind of have to get down on your butt to shimmy in. Getting a photo man, you gotta get a photo of this historic moment.

I'm in. Can't you just get in down the front? I'm in. Well I wouldn't risk it if I were you man. Would have been easier to sail around. Yeah you can go around the front. You can go around the front if you're a lightweight. Lightweight? Yeah, you can go around the front. You can go around the front if you're a lightweight. Lightweight? I went in the original entrance, like the Howard Carter entrance.

Here he comes. Tim's using the special entrance. So, people, this is called, officially, this is Tim and Brady Cave. Tim and Brady Cave. Yeah. Yeah. So, I can't fully remember the story of Tim and Brady Cave. Like, we obviously found our way down here because it looked cool and we shimmied down yeah it was much

harder back then well the rocks have worn away over time yeah they've eroded from the ocean so it's this kind of it's kind of like an a rock that's a huge boulder that's hollowed out and you can sit inside it and there's views of the sea, and it's very spectacular. There's still that little ring there. Yeah. That we always dreamed about jumping out and catching. Yeah. Which was suicide.

Yeah. Crazy. Madness. I'm still tempted by it. I'm taking pictures of these things. There's the ring you can jump out and catch. Please, people, don't jump out and try and catch it. Did we come here many times?

I don't remember coming here that many times. I remember coming a lot in those days with different groups of people. But you and I, I think, have just come a few times. I'm not saying... What? All right, then, I'm going to make a confession. If you came here with other people,

I'm going to admit I came here with a girlfriend. Really? Yeah. You've shown her the cave. Well, now that you've said you came here with other friends, I don't feel so guilty. Like as a tourist operator, then. Oh, so is I.

Looking at the rock formations. So another interesting point of trivia is such is the legendariness of Tim and Brady Cave that the Dropbox that Tim and I share to make the Unmade podcast is called Tim and Brady Cave. That's where we put all our shared files and things when we're making the podcast. That was great.

When we were first setting it up and you said, I'll create a Dropbox folder for us to use, and it popped up Tim and Brady Cave. I thought, that's fantastic. So here we are again after all these years. Yeah. No one has really done much with the place, have they? No, not many people can get here.

How many days do you reckon we could live in Tim and Brady Cave? I reckon 20 minutes. 20 minutes? 30 minutes? Yeah. It's difficult. If you had a three-piece feed or something, you could sit here. Oh, yeah.

You could really enjoy it. That's what you need. That's only half an hour back to that KFC, I reckon. Yeah, but then you've got to come back. Yeah, it yeah be hard holding a microphone and kfc and getting down those rocks that's true let me do a quick storyblocks sponsorship it is this desecrating the cave to do storyblocks in here because i forgot honoring the cave honoring honoring cave storyblocks who have been a great sponsor for us at the moment. Now, Tim, this is a beautiful site we're looking at right now.

Oh, yeah. I've travelled all the way around the world to see it. Yeah. I can't get all my camera equipment down here. I wouldn't be able to film this if I wanted to. But magnificent sites like the one we're looking at now are at your fingertips for use in your films, your clips, your YouTube videos, your brochures, your websites, anything you're doing. Storyblocks, other people have done

the hard work for you. They've got this incredible library of stock footage. You can use all of it for just a monthly subscription. Go to storyblocks.com slash unmade. Storyblocks.com slash unmade storyblocks.com slash unmade and the sort of sites we're looking at now that we can't we can't film are the sort of things that you can have in an instant whatever you're after they're going to have it by the way tim people have been going in through the story books library and uh getting their tim lookalikes have they have you seen any of them yet no i haven't. We'll save them for a future episode. But another little thing we've got going on the side,

go to storyblocks.com slash unmade. Even if you're not a subscriber, by the way, to the whole library, you can look through it and browse it. So subscribers and non-subscribers alike have been going there, and we want to see you find stock video or pictures of people you think look like tim if you know what tim looks like make it a look-alike if you don't know what he looks like just show us what you think he might look like we've been having all sorts of fascinating

submissions already did you say people and or objects that look like what object do you think you look most like if you look like an object uh I think from a distance I look a bit like Tim and Brady K from the end. Big round bubble head. So, do you want to have a podcast idea while we're here? The lesson that you gave me in the last podcast was to take a name and then develop it from there. That's very good advice, which I'm going to ignore on this occasion. Right. Yep.

I do have a bad title for this particular podcast. I'm sure. Yep, which is called Alley Talk. Alley Talk. Alley Talk, yes. It's a podcast about ten pin bowling. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. A couple of days ago, I went with my girls and a friend tenpin bowling. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple of days ago, I went with my girls and

a friend 10-pin bowling. And look, I haven't done that for a long, long time, many, many years. But you realize a 10-pin bowling alley is like a universe in itself. It's its own world. It's got its own shoes. It's got its own language. It's got its own rules. And it's got its own language yeah it's got its own you know rules and it's something that you never ever give a moment or a second's thought to until you're in there and then suddenly the pressure is on to know yeah you know to have skills and abilities and lingo and style and suddenly there's something about being in a bowling alley that makes you start to pontificate about good ways to do it and how to spin the ball. How to bowl it down and so forth. It's like when you're watching diving or gymnastics

at the Olympics and within seconds you're commenting on their technique and how straight their arms and legs are. That's terrible. Big splash, small splash. That's right. Well, champion bowling is very much the same. We were blessed on this occasion

with having someone in um the the alley next to us is the whole thing called an alley or the lane it's a lane isn't it yeah the lane next to us who can who had a bit of a strut about them right and um was was uh bowling alone and um like to think they knew what was going on so there was one occasion when i um would uh i went to sort of you know you share a little area where the balls come up and hop you know up out of the ground yeah yeah and i was picking it up and the lady said oh is that a is that a nine is that my nine and i and i i said what she says that is that my nine i think this this seven's yours that's my nine yeah And I wasn't sure what she was doing, but obviously she knew.

And I said, well, my fingers fit. If your fingers fit. It's the weight, isn't it? The weight of the ball. That's it. It's fine. Why can't I just bowl this one?

We brought our bowls over and so forth. She goes, no, that's a nine. That's mine. So I had to sort of take it back and put it back. For the life of me, I couldn't tell the difference

between the two. As long as, because if your fingers fit, in my world, it's your bowl. Bowl to bowl. You don't care about the weight. Bowl to bowl. Yeah. yeah yeah so a podcast that

explores the strange world of 10-pin bowling are you a good bowler i will see here's the thing you you think this is not terribly difficult so surely everyone's a pretty good bowler or i don't know but i don't think i am a very good bowler. No. But every single time I walk up to bowl, I think I'm a pretty good bowler. Like I know what to do. Years of youth group practice and so forth. And you can get it down the other end, but I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if you knew this, but I didn't. I mean, I've known this a long time now, but I didn't know it until I was an adult.

That the lane is only oiled, oily, for about three quarters of the way down. And the last quarter has no oil. Why is that? Well, that's why when you see someone who's good at bowling and they spin it, it seems to be spinning on the spot. Like it seems to not be moving, but spinning, but moving in a straight line. And then right at the end, it hooks and it hooks into the pins. That's because for the first three quarters, it's on the oil and it can't grip.

So it's just spinning helplessly as it rolls down. And then when it finally hits the unoiled section at the end, the ball bites into the wood and spins and hooks. And that's why it hooks into the pins at the end and gives you that good angle into the pins. Well, that's because apparently hitting it straight on doesn't knock them all down. It's not as good as you want to come in an angle. And the fact that it's only oiled partway, that's also why left apparently hitting it straight on doesn't knock them all down. It's not as good as, you want to come in at an angle, and the fact that it's only oiled partway, that's also why left-handed bowlers have quite an advantage,

because over the course of hours or a day, the oil that's laid down overnight is very perfectly laid down, but all the right-handers rolling down the right-hand side of the lane muck up the oil a bit, and it becomes not as nice to bowl on, but left-handers who bowl down the other side of the lane and hook in from the other side their oil doesn't get disrupted as much over the course of a day so left-handed bowlers have this advantage of the oil in the lane doesn't get ruined as badly yeah and there are also different ways you can lay down the oil and different patterns and it's a whole it's a whole art form the oil of 10 pin bowling lanes good for your podcast oh well indeed i i remember watching 10 pin bowling on television and your podcast indeed I remember watching

10 pin bowling on television and it's it was a Saturday afternoon sport you know it was always the lunch break in the cricket

it was for a while yeah yeah it swapped with that and yachting two most boring things on television the cheapest to buy that's right

but it was these guys they were either getting strikes or just missing one and getting it the next time so getting a spare. So it's time and time again. But they must have spent an enormous amount of time ten pin bowling.

Yeah, you get pretty good at it. I remember one of the presidents had a ten pin bowling alley installed in the White House. What did you score? What was your score when you went bowling? My score was pretty poor. I tried a few left-handers. Remember, I was with a little party of friends, so I was not unleashing the full capacity of minds.

Which scored 30? Otherwise, I... Yeah, no, look, I got a... I can't remember. My two daughters got a draw, which was imminently frustrating, anticlimactic after the trash talking that was going on in the car on the way. And I got a bit less than that. I can't remember.

Did you get any strikes though? Yes, I got one strike. All that matters, the moment you get the strike. That's right. It doesn't matter how good at a sport you are, as long as you have that magic moment that's right i once went and played golf tell i told the story i once went and played golf with some mates of mine who are good golfers and i'm not a particularly good golfer and we were going to bit of a professional course and the

first hole had this really scenic outlook from this hilltop down the first fairway and the clubhouse was right behind it and all the people who were playing later that day who had just finished would be there having something to eat or drink so they would all watch the first tee shot so it was the it was the it was the pressure shot and my mate who was particularly good golfer absolutely hooked his tee shot off into the trees it was terrible terrible shot where people were like laughing behind and then i came up and i hit it straight as a die beautiful straight into the air straight down the fairway best golf shot of my life people got up and applauded oh shot mate shot and i just sort of just turned and gave like this knowing nod thank you very much thank you beautiful shot everyone was like that guy that

guy knows what he's doing that day i think i shot 130 probably the worst round of my life the guy who hooked the first i think shot 85 had a had a really good day oh no no he shot no he broke i think he shot about 80 he had an amazing day but all that mattered was that he got laughed at with his rubbish first shot and i got applauded and i didn't care what happened after that. That first tee-off is high pressure and it's the first thing you do and there's always other people, other teams waiting. I used to play

golf with a couple of cousins 20 years ago in Melbourne and we'd tee-off on a Saturday morning and so the whole Saturday morning crowd was there and the pressure was enormous and none of us were really any good. It's the only shot you wanted to hit well. Oh my goodness, It was so painful. And, I mean, just to hit the ball.

I mean, just to connect. Not miss, yeah. I remember one of my cousins skying the ball, like up and then over, sort of out of sight, back over towards the boom and the unmistakable sound of a car roof. There's nowhere to hide. No. There's nowhere to hide no nowhere to hide there's always that moment as well where you where you do a swing and maybe a miss oh and you're like oh and you just you gotta pretend that it was a practice shot so you sort of just step back and go okay now seriously

now there's no pretending. Everyone knows when you miss. Everyone knows. This is bloody gorgeous. Beautiful. This is amazing. I like that we put the front window out here. This is a good view. This is a beautiful spot. Incredible view.

We've got it completely to ourself. Where else in the world can you have places like this just to yourself for an hour or two? I don know an hour or two i'm hungry we're not staying no no i knew i shouldn't have let you see that kfc in victor harbour i know you all think tim's a funny guy but i think he was genuinely upset then when he thought he wasn't going to get to it. At least it wasn't steep home. That was 12 hours, wasn't it? Yeah. You were bored within 20 minutes on steep home. Well, I saw the battery and stuff. That was cool.

Take a couple more pictures and we'll go and get you some food. You want to see if you can download there? It's nice. Where are you going? I'm just going up here to have a look. There we go. Look a bit more out to that way so I've got a bit more of your glasses. Yeah, there we go.

All right, we're going back there we go careful there you know you know it's often that's when that's when climbers die on the you know the way back that's so you know you get no when you've every five minutes saying to whoever you're with careful what's your step a bit of bit of bump there in the horizon from the background bit of Tim in the foreground bit of bump there in the horizon, on the background. Bit of Tim in the foreground, bit of bump, bit of sun, bit of flare. That's the photo. That's the one they'll remember you for. Here's my back, is that right?

Yeah. I'm now about 20 meters ahead of Brady, jumping, flipping. Climbing here for a minute. Oh, this is a bit free solo, this one. Here, look up, look up a bit, man. You lost interest in that boat before you'd even taken it. I've heard Ken Duncan can wait nine hours for a perfect moment. You were literally putting the camera back in your pocket before you pressed the button.

I like to get it away before I can hear the click. You know, it's like the speed of sound is slower than the speed of flight. Okay, I've got myself into this position. Hang on. I'll take a photo. So, Tim got himself into this position and now he can't get out of it. This picture makes you look amazing if you didn't know that you're stuck there. Oh, dear.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not going to die there, but you do have to move eventually. I reckon it might be quicker to climb it here. Might be quicker to use the track again. I know. Whoa. That's amazing.

I know. I didn't know. That's amazing. I know. I didn't know the human body could form that position. I'm just overtaking you here up the walking path. What have you done? Yeah, okay. I'm just going to put the microphone down for a moment. Hang on. Do you want me to come and... Can I help you in any way? No, no. No, good, because I don just going to put the microphone down for a moment. Hang on, do you want me to come and... Can I help you in any way?

No, no. No, good, because I don't want to. Oh, dear. We're on opposite sides. Oh, no, here we go. Oh, dear. Tim nearly died then. Yeah.

Want to bet on how many sleepy lizards we see on the way back? Yeah, I'm going to go zero. I'm going to be a pessimist. Zero. I reckon we'll see one more. All right. We feel like we're further away than ever. That's tough.

Up that way. How long before a civilian goes to Tim and Brady Cave do you reckon? Get a photo there. Hope they're careful. So the question is, do we call this episode Tim and Brady Cave or The Bump?

It'll give away the secret beforehand. And I won't get as much pleasure as well for giving my sister a hard time. Let's call it the bump. That gives it its legend. Yeah. You won't have to go to Storyblocks to get extra audio and heavy breathing, man. That's for sure.

Back in the proper wind now. Oh my hat just blew off. I'm sure that was gone but I'm sure that was going out to sea but got hit by a boulder. Tim doesn't know I've come back to get my hat. Lost your hat? Yep. I thought I'd gone out to sea, but it hit the boulder. Despite the wind, it's like the bluest sky. Yeah.

It's beautiful. It's not easy holding a microphone doing this. No, it's not. I don't know how David Attenborough does it. Yeah. Do you think the Attenborough people are gonna get on to Tim and Brady cave now oh yes that would be probably his last big legacy trip you know before he retires the climax of everything is a chick Oh sleepy sleepy sleepy lizard sleepy lizard we got one more Sleepy lizard. We got one more. My little buddy, yes, comes out.

We got one more. He went back and hid too quickly, though, so I didn't get a picture of him. He's in the hole. You've gone in his hole. Verified. I won the bet. Oh, another sleepy. Stay still, because that one's not going anywhere.

See if I can get a picture of him. Those kids walk straight past. No, they were playing with it. They were playing with it. Sleepy. Sleepy. Sleepy lizard. It's okay, sleepy. I'm not going to hurt you. I'm not going to hurt you. Capturing. Here you go, sleepy lizard. Where are you going? He doesn't know where to go. He's lost his hole. No, he's a bit stuck isn't he? Too sleepy. Sorry sleepy.

Yeah. We'll let you go. Let you go, alright. We'll let you go. Carry on son. As you were. So two sleepies on the walk back. Oh gosh, no one won the bet.

How high do you think the bump is? What was the summit there? Oh jeez, I read it just before on wikipedia but i glazed over it it's windier down here at the car park than it wasn't yeah because up there we're up above the wind man that's how it works we're technically in space up there it's particularly lovely to see the vista of south australia green i think after all these man, it was really special to go back with you to Tim Brady Cave and talk about Tim Pin Bowling and Storyblocks.

Oh, well, that's not something we've done before. No. Not on those particular topics. Okay. And here we are back. Signing out. Back at the car. Safely home, over and out.

Yeah, go and have a coffee with my mum. Let's do it. All right. safely home over and out yeah go for a go go and have a coffee with my mum let's do it all right