The Unmade Podcast - 64: Tim's First Wombat
Episode Date: October 25, 2020Tim and Brady discuss a special message, sayings and daddisms, a KFC incident, spoon of the week, inspirational people, time-limited episodes, and accents. Hover - register your domain now and get 10...% off by going to hover.com/unmade - promo code UNMADE at checkout - https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/ji21ip USEFUL LINKS Numberphile - https://www.numberphile.com Tom Hanks - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000158/ Uncommon Type - book by Tom Hanks - https://amzn.to/3jveIvH The Green Mile - https://amzn.to/31Fp5XL Boneless Bucket as advertised - https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/5990824849fc2b4c4fe4211b/1603649175324-D4TCWIX9CQ28L43QO5S1/boneless+bucket.jpg?content-type=image%2Fjpeg Brady and Tim wear the buckets as hats - https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/5990824849fc2b4c4fe4211b/1603649196959-5U8OVMPRQCYZXWFKIJHX/Screen+Shot+2020-10-25+at+18.04.18.jpg?format=2500w&content-type=image%2Fjpeg Tarra-Bulga National Park - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarra-Bulga_National_Park Spoon of the Week pictures - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Wombat - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wombat Lyrebird - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyrebird Indiana Jones bridge scene - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXjt0RgxcMs Fatso on A Country Practice - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7QtIyLE7Sk The Wind Beneath My Wings - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iAzMRKFX3c James Stewart - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000071/
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you ready to rock and roll
how are you yeah i'm good yeah we're a bit sleepy today we've just been we've been lying on the
sofa almost falling asleep and then we thought oh let's do a podcast and then we'll reward
ourselves by getting some food that's right that. That's right. And laying on a sofa in Mad Men seemed to generate all sorts of creative ideas. You know, the advertising
executives having the nap in the afternoon, allowing their minds to wander. It's not working
for me today. Not for us. No, we're hitting that. We're hit a dead end. But I have got a very
interesting piece of correspondence that I wish to share with everyone that I'm
sharing with permission.
Oh, yeah.
This is something a little bit different.
So let me read something to you.
To put it in context and to sort of talk about how this caught me a bit unaware is this actually
came into the Numberphile inbox.
For people who don't know, Numberphile is videos that I make that are about mathematics
and things like that.
One of my other lives.
Tim, I imagine you're a big Number
5 fan. Oh, yes, yes. I've recently discovered that you do other things apart from the Unmade
podcast. I can't imagine you sitting down and scrolling through a few Number 5 videos. It
doesn't seem like your bag. I love the idea of you branching out and doing YouTube clips of
Number 5 videos. Thank you. Wonderful. You've found a whole new outlet there. It's good. It's
good to have like a little outside hustle outlet like that.
So that's the context I started reading in.
It comes from someone called Truman.
And this is what Truman wrote.
Brady, first let me give you enormous thanks for the hours and hours of entertainment through
all your various channels and podcasts, but also for being a massive factor in my decision
to study mathematics as my major at Stanford University. I've always
loved math, but Numberphile solidified that love and interest. And lo and behold, I now have a
bachelor's degree in mathematics. Hurrah. Nice work. Nice. Nice work, Truman. Good stuff, Truman.
Yep. So, he didn't just write about that. He then goes on to write a few paragraphs about
some mathematics and a little thing he's working on that's quite interesting and something a little i won't go
into all the details but it was really interesting and we sort of explained it and sent me some
pictures and things like that yep so it was all it was a pretty typical kind of number file message
at this stage and i was enjoying it and at the end it says thanks again for being a positive
influence on my life and countless others across the world.
Marvellous.
P.S. You tend to mention my father a lot on HI and the Unmade podcast.
It's kind of hilarious.
He's actually just about to finish his own quarantine on the Gold Coast to start filming another movie.
And I'm like, Truman.
And I look at this sign off and it's actually truman hanks yes this is this is one this is one of tom hanks's sons who's who's you know likes his mathematics
but has been listening to the unmade podcast all this time and hearing us i mean we talk about tom
hanks a lot on the unmade podcast oh well yes he is in some ways the the doyen of
the tom unmade podcast he's the third co-host he is he is the unseen guest he's the empty there's
an empty chair next to us now i like to think he's sitting there with us so all this time we've been
spending like joking and making all our tom hanks jokes and thinking nothing of it at the other end
you know one of the civilians to him is like it's his dad that's
a classic that's a classic i kind of it kind of makes me feel a bit like uncomfortable why well
because like that's like his dad and that's one of our you know one of our listeners dads we talk
we talk about our dads what i guess why can't we talk about truman's dad that's true i had a bit of correspondence with
him afterwards you know just politely and then saying you know and to check that we could mention
this on the podcast and he did say oh look i'm really worried i don't want you guys to like stop
and feel uncomfortable about it because of this he made a big point of saying like you know i would
hate to affect the podcast in any way because of this, but I just thought I'd let you know when I was writing to you.
So we will try to continue our Tom Hanks adoration,
despite the fact we know that occasionally you're out there
on the other end, Truman.
And by the way, Truman's a big Tommy Ball fan too.
He had a lot to say about Tommy Ball and the sofa shop.
That's fantastic.
So he's a proper civilian.
There you go.
We're going to lay it on thick.
All the great men.
Yeah.
You watch any Tom Hanks stuff lately?
I haven't, but you know what I did?
I've got his book of short stories.
Tom Hanks has actually written a book of short stories.
And I'd read the first couple.
And after we talked about this the other day, I pulled it out.
And I'm going to read a few more.
And keep going.
Yeah, yeah, put it next to the bed.
Finish the book.
Yeah.
Well, they're all discreet short stories, you see.
So, they're all surrounding the theme of typewriters,
which Hanks has a great passion for, which is one that I share.
So, yes.
All right.
It's very good.
What's the last Tom Hanks movie you watched?
On Netflix at the moment, he's got the Navy Captain.
Oh, yeah.
Greyhound.
Greyhound.
Yeah, I haven't watched that.
Is it any good?
It is good.
Yeah, very good.
Yeah, yeah, very strong.
And how's Tom in it?
Is he just solid, likeable?
Like just the most marvellous captain.
Yeah.
An upright, upstanding man, calm in a storm yeah if i was getting i
wouldn't get in a submarine unless tom hanks was captaining it no that's right
that's reasonably unlikely isn't it
oh i don't know mine was the green mile so i love you know that oh you re-watched that again
recently just watched that recently yeah i did have a note in my phone, though, for a podcast idea, which I wrote.
And I just wrote, Tom Hanks, his face is kind of pudgy in The Green Mile.
And I was going to centre this.
I had this idea that centred around Tom Hanks' face being pudgy in The Green Mile.
But now, because of the whole Truman factor...
You can't mention that.
Yeah, it's kind of like, what do I do now?
Was he told maybe to look a bit more rounded and smiley?
I'm sure he just acted it.
I'm sure when the cameras stopped rolling, his face just went back to normal.
He's just such a great actor.
He can just change his weight when the director says action.
That's how good he is.
He's just perfect.
Oh, that's marvellous.
I can't remember a film where he looks significantly different.
Has he done anything where he's had...
Well, he got himself all gaunt and ripped in Castaway, didn't he?
Oh, well, that's true.
Yeah, yeah.
Grew the long beard and whatnot.
But I don't remember him playing a...
He's never done like a Marvel film where he's been made up in a costume
or anything like that that I can remember.
I can't imagine Tom Hanks in a Marvel film.
No, no.
What would he be, like Mr. Nice?
He would be, yeah.
Mr. Sheen.
He would just kill people with good manners.
It'd be the first Marvel film where instead of destroying his enemy,
he like wins him over and they shake hands and like form a peace treaty.
And it's like, okay, well, it's agree to disagree and let's move on.
As a young boy, he was bitten by empathy and now he's just really empathetic.
He became empathy man.
Legend.
Anyway, there you go, Truman.
You can rest assured we'll keep talking about your dad.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Long may it continue. All right. Thanks for writing Oh, yes. Yes. Long may it continue.
All right.
Thanks for writing in, Truman.
Yes.
Thank you very much.
Nice work.
And also thanks for that math stuff.
That was really interesting.
I didn't tell Tim about that because he wouldn't understand.
I don't speak math.
No.
All right.
Ideas for a podcast.
Who's going to go first?
Now that I'm out of my slump.
I'm flying yeah you should
have heard the list tim read to me before the show people there's plenty of slump material there
i was reading the ones i wasn't going to use i'm saying but when we get on air here we go all right
this idea is called you guys ready to rock and roll? You've done it. Terrible title.
You don't know what it's about.
Yes, I do.
No, this is, look, this is a, you guys ready to rock and roll is the classic comment made by someone in a restaurant.
They get up, they walk over, pay the bill, come back, stand next to the table, jingle the car keys.
You guys ready to rock and roll?
So this is a podcast about those comments, right?
Those classic comments that come out every time and who says them.
Like sort of like sayings, but sayings that, what does a saying have to have to qualify for the show?
Does it have to be annoying or often used or what's the criteria here?
Often used to the point of making you laugh.
Like, you know what I mean?
Those comments that just, you can see them coming out of the person's mouth as they say them.
You know it's coming and you're just waiting for it.
You did this the other day.
You did this.
We pulled up at your mum's house.
Yeah.
You did this the other day.
You did this.
We pulled up at your mum's house.
Yeah.
And even before she had a chance, the door opened and it's, oh.
And I said, because I was with Tim, who she hasn't seen for a long time,
was my old stomping buddy, look what the cat dragged in.
Yeah.
Look what the cat, oh, dear.
Look what the cat's dragged in.
When someone walks in the house you haven't seen for a while.
And the other one is, oh, as I live and breathe.
As I live and breathe.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love that.
Or the other one is, oh, here's trouble.
Here's trouble.
Yeah, that's right.
That was a favourite of my mum, that's for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got a few here's troubles when I walked in the front door of your house.
Oh, here's trouble.
Here's trouble.
But you weren't trouble.
No. No. I was a's trouble. Here's trouble. But you weren't trouble. No.
No.
I was a good boy.
Talk about unfair.
You were saying you've noticed a few comments being back in Australia
that are being given, thrown around a little bit more.
I've noticed a new one because, you know,
I've been spending a lot of time in restaurants and bars
because I'm visiting lots of people
and I like spending time in restaurants and bars.
Sure.
And I've always noticed the no worries.
That's the classic Australian.
No worries. Can I have a beer? No worries. worries oh can you pass me that straw no worries you're the bar staff always get no worries but the new one i've been noticing a lot on this trip is too easy yeah
you order can i have a beer please too easy too easy pour the beer then i'm like you know five
bucks swipe your card. Too easy.
Too easy.
That's what they say.
Everything's too easy.
It's like, well, sorry.
Can I ask something more difficult of you?
I said sometimes I feel like I should just slam a Rubik's Cube down on the bar
and say, give that a go then.
Too easy.
Oh, hang on.
Oh, mate, look.
No worries.
Turn it up.
What are you doing to me? What are you doing to me?
What are you doing to me?
Everything is too easy.
Yeah.
So, but, you know, there you go.
Too easy.
The bravado of the Australian psyche.
Yeah, yeah.
No problems.
It's too easy.
Got it sorted.
All good.
All good.
They just come out.
I didn't have to think about that one what else do we what
else is on the list what else do you what are some other ones you can think of that are uh
oh well you know i guess there's that one a lot of these are dad's sort of comments because dads
are always got a very limited vocabulary it seems when it comes to to speaking to members of the
family so part of it is you get a little bit of money and there's a don't spend it all at once.
Oh, yes, I like that one.
Or if someone's washing the car,
what, can you do mine after that?
Can you do mine?
Just things that have to be said.
Yeah, I have lots of those.
Or anyone who's involved in their job involves
some sort of computer panel
or complex sort of electronics in front of them.
Someone walks up and goes, you know,
do you need a licence to fly that, you know?
I love it.
Oh, they are unbearable.
Do you know what I'm saying?
You know?
Yeah.
What about when, like, a teenage girl comes downstairs wearing like not much clothes
are you going to get dressed before you go out yeah that's right yeah yeah that's right
yeah yeah money doesn't grow on trees you know what do you do that makes your kids like embarrassed
or grown i tend to spell things out instead of saying them so i'll say time for the bed okay
what do they do when you say that they're like they jump in now they go it's you know like
the television program ends or we're clearing up and they can just sense the feeling of you know
and one of them will go time for the bed right speaking of which this is a little bit off topic
but it's a
it does involve
embarrassing kids
and it's a story
that I wanted to tell
anyway on the podcast
but Tim and I
went out the other day
with Tim's family
and we stopped
we stopped into KFC
funnily enough
we did too
we did yeah
yeah
and
they had
they've been advertising
this thing all over Adelaide
and I've seen it all over
the bus shelters
everywhere like
and I was really excited
by it called the boneless bucket yes and they had this big bucket
on the on the sign with oh flowing over the top with chicken and it's all boneless things like
little popcorn chickens and tenders and all the things that haven't got bones in them and i just
thought that looks pretty good boneless bucket can we get one of them so that's what we decided
to get we ordered like a boneless bucket for all of us.
And we sat there, we stood there waiting for them to get it all prepared.
And I was picturing a bucket we'd have to almost carry together.
You know what I mean?
Like it would be like, don't spill all those boneless bits falling out everywhere.
So anyway, we've got these high expectations. And then they slide across the counter this bag with five or six little boxes in it of chips.
And we literally said, where's the bucket?
What's this?
Yeah, where's our bucket?
And the girl looked at us like we were idiots.
She looked at us like we were fools.
And she said said it's called
the boneless bucket it is yeah the ad is right there the picture we're pointing at it we ordered
the boneless bucket and she just looked at us like absolute idiots and said it doesn't come in a
bucket there's no actual bucket there's no bucket the just to make this fit into the podcast at this
point one of your daughters was hiding behind a pillar because she was so embarrassed of what
falls what falls we were being but but anyway back to the boneless bucket we were like we couldn't believe
it and then like other staff were getting involved and they were like backing her up saying no that's
right there's no bucket and we were like we want a bucket it's cool and then the guy like tried to
like put greasy oil and troubled waters and they had behind him they had they had stacks of buckets
almost going up to the ceiling there was no shortage of buckets in this premise so then
he leaned over and said would you like us to give you a bucket and we were like too bloody right
yeah yeah and then he said would you would you would you like two buckets and we were like yep
yep one each because then we could wear the buckets as hats and embarrass your daughter
that's right even more out the car park yeah it's your daughter even more. That's right, even more out in the car park.
Look, I tell you, but it's not even, they actually, it's not just in the picture.
It's like, oh, yeah, no, they just put it in a bucket for the photo.
They did do that, but then they named the deal the boneless bucket.
And there was no bucket.
She goes, there's no actual bucket.
Next, we're going to find bones in it.
That's right.
Oh, it was ridiculous.
I don't know why they'd do that.
It's scandalous.
I was going to alert the authorities at one point, but I calmed down.
You did.
That reminds me of another dad-ism that you do all the time.
When one of the girls says, I'm hungry, you say, hi, hungry, I'm Tim.
It never gets old. No.
The great thing is of growing up and knowing about the dad-isms
and dad make bad jokes, it becomes almost ironic
because you step into that character and make bad jokes.
Of course, from their perspective, they're not aware of this.
All they hear is all these bad dad jokes for the first time,
whereas I kind of, you know what I mean?
Like there's no irony.
So they are literally having to experience them at face value.
That's a better name for your podcast.
Dad-isms.
What a great name for a podcast.
Dad-isms?
Oh, yeah.
No, well, I guess that's a good name.
It's better than whatever you call it.
What did you call it?
You guys are ready to run.
So let me ask you this then,
because obviously dad-isms are known as being corny yeah and your dad
is uncool isn't he and you can't there's like dad dancing you associate bad dancing on the dance
floor dad dancing yeah now you i know you like popular culture you like to think your taste in
music and stuff is pretty cool when you are like being dad do you are you trying to be the cool dad that's not like the other dads?
Or do you lean into being uncool?
Like if you were at a wedding, would you deliberately do a bit of corny dancing to like embarrass the girls?
Or will you try and do cool David Silver dancing, things like that?
There are a few hats there.
Right.
And you have to choose them.
Right.
I am a cool dad.
Right.
Obviously. choose them right i am a cool dad right obviously and um but they wear a lot of denim i don't know if that makes sense
i've never known i've never known someone to wear so much denim and you wear it you wear it
like you preach in denim it's like it's your like a royal it's like it's your
papal clothing ceremonialeremonial robes.
You don the denim.
You need a little denim papal hat that the Pope wears.
What are they called, those little Pope hats?
Well, it's a little, it's a Pope hat, isn't it?
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm not from that part of the church.
Or you could get a big denim bishop one.
They go, those big high ones.
Ooh, yes.
Stonewashed. Oh, yes. A big stone wash.
Yeah.
Stone wash. Stone wash.
Nice.
Or fabergé.
A denim scepter.
That's right.
Hey, Levi.
That's a good biblical name.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Anyway, many hats.
Many hats you were saying.
Because you are cool.
You think you're pretty cool.
I have an era. And part of the coolness is not wanting to be cool.
You reach an age, look, what am I?
In my mid-40s, right?
44.
So there's a sense you don't want to look too contemporary.
I don't like that at all and looking cool and trying to be cool and trendy.
That's bad for me.
You know what I mean?
You've got to lean back into who you are.
So there's something a little bit, you know what I mean?
Like not wanting to be cool, but in my mind,
makes me a little bit cooler.
Bringing up the kids not to care so much what other people think.
The thing that makes you cool is how you're willing to be uncool.
Yeah, yeah.
You've got to be a bit of that.
So that's right.
You've got to dance and enjoy yourself.
But the fun way of dancing is to look ridiculous.
Like you can't enjoy yourself dancing if you're –
I can't remember the last time I danced anywhere, by the way.
But you can't enjoy yourself if you're worried about what you look like.
That's right.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you've got to just let it go.
All right.
Nice.
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Oh, yes.
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I like the idea of dadisms.
That's maybe even a better podcast idea is that idea of cool dad.
Dad's trying to be cool and what they go to and the lengths they go to.
We started a whole new idea.
I've unleashed the monster now.
Well, I'm out of my slump.
I'm out of my slump.
I'm flying.
Oh, dear.
All right.
Well, I'll ask the girls later in the week whether or not you actually are cool.
Well, of course, from their perspective, I'm not.
But as I get old, one day they'll look back and go, he wasn't cool, but that's what we liked about him.
That's what made him cool.
Have you ever done something where, like, you feel like your daughters have either said or felt, wow, my dad was the coolest guy in the room then?
Like, that was just amazing how good my dad was?
I don't think so.
I don't know.
You've certainly never done that from our relationship.
I think they may think it's pretty cool that I have a podcast
or that I'm on a podcast or it's a bit of fun.
That's probably a unique thing.
Yeah.
But I think they think it's like cool
because i'm with you like it's like they they think do they think i'm cool or do they think
i'm like you oh that's really interesting i think they think you're cooler than me in fact i'm
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Spoon of the week.
It's time for another spoon from the Hein family collection.
Tim's pulled one out of the vault that was collected by his mum and dad over the years.
He has now been entrusted with this collection.
He keeps it in an overflowing Tupperware container.
What have you got this time?
Tupperware container bought especially for the spoons.
Really?
Well, maybe you should have got a bigger one because they don't all fit.
Well, that's because we found more.
They do fit. Yeah, that's because we found more. They do fit.
Yeah.
There's too many.
Unlike the tenders in the boneless box, the spoons run over.
Boneless bucket.
Now you're calling it a box.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I bet.
Yeah.
All right, Brady.
Our spoon this week is from the Bolga National Park.
Bolga?
The Tarabolga National Park. Ohga? The Tarabolga National Park.
Oh, Tarabolga.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
But the Bolga Bridge is featured on the spoon.
This is a very understated spoon.
Nothing too spectacular.
No heirs to the throne.
Nothing at all on the scoopy bit.
The bowl.
Yeah.
Very plain, simple.
In fact, if you were holding the the handle the stem or whatever the in
your hand and you didn't see you just think it was a normal teaspoon wouldn't you it is very
normal but until until you get up to the top where the kind of the sort of the glossy anomaly part
is and they have this bridge which it looks a little bit like the clifton suspension bridge
on a glittery green background which is probably the main feature of the Spoon.
And you're right, it does say Bolger Park at the top,
but it's really hard to read.
It was not well designed in that respect.
It's been worn down over years.
This could be thousands of years old, this Spoon.
It could.
Maybe it is.
Yeah.
I was making stuff up now.
This was actually an early prototype made by Fabergé himself before he moved into eggs.
The reason I've chosen this today, even though it's an understated spoon, is firstly, we used to go to this national park all the time.
People would come and would go
out there for the day for a picnic. And it's beautiful. Ferns everywhere, a lot of ferns.
And I remember this is where I first- First saw a fern?
I remember this is where I saw my first wombat. Oh, you can never forget your first wombat.
Remember how you were asking me the other day, where did you see your first wombat?
And I held it back.
Here it is.
I'm saving that for Spoon of the Week.
For years I've been trying to find out where Tim saw his first wombat.
He's finally given it up.
It's also where I saw my first lyrebird.
I don't think I've ever seen a lyrebird.
Oh, yeah.
Because I remember The being spoken about
In the car
Mum goes
Oh there's a liar bird
And in my mind
They're on the 10 cent piece
Aren't they
But they were
Are they
They
But I remember
In my
Well I didn't know that
In my mind
You could have just looked
At a 10 cent lace
And that would have been
Your first liar bird
Oh we couldn't afford
That back in my time
It's because your parents
Were spending it all on spoons
But in my mind, a liar bird.
I'm just like, how does a bird tell lies?
Like it was all mixed up when I was really young.
Because it's spelled L-Y-R-E, isn't it?
The liar bird.
Right.
So.
Yes, it is.
I assume you're not lying.
There's that blank expression again, people.
I appreciate you editing out the 20 seconds of thinking time there
yeah no this and then we're in the middle of the park though this was a um this suspension bridge
which in my mind was very similar to the suspension bridge in indiana jones at the
temple of doom oh nice so walking out on, I'd always stand in the middle.
So, it wasn't a big stone solid thing.
It had a bit of wobble to it, did it?
Oh, no, it was pretty solid.
Okay.
But in my mind.
Right.
There were alligators down the bottom and it wasn't all green with ferns.
It was very dusty and dry.
But often, often, every time I would stand in the middle of this suspension bridge, which is not very long and very sturdy, and, you know, pretend to wrap my ankle around the ropes in the side and lift my hand up above my head like I was going to chop down the sword like Indiana Jones.
Nice.
Yeah.
I never did it.
No.
No, that would have been dangerous.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You're a responsible boy. But I enacted it. Nice. Yeah, that would have been dangerous. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You responsible boy.
But I enacted it.
Nice.
Yeah.
So let me ask you this.
Tell me more about the wombat.
Well, it was there and it just wandered off.
All right.
So for people who don't know, for a wombat,
imagine like those huge big cushions you put your feet on
when you sit at the sofa and you have like a footstool.
Imagine a hairy footstool.
That's kind of what a wombat looks like.
That's right.
That's right.
I knew wombats.
The famous wombat was from a TV show called A Country Practice.
And there was Fatso who was owned by the local policeman.
Yes.
Fatso the wombat.
And so I was very pleased to see one and the first time i
saw one was here and so this is this has actually got quite a few memories attached to it this
understated simple spoon from bulgar park treasure it treasure that spoon i will lovely so there we
go that's spoon of the week and as always with spoon of the week we will spin the wheel to see
who is going to win an unmade podcast souvenir spoon,
which I promise will be manufactured one day.
Well, I shouldn't promise
because I haven't got total control over that process.
Isn't it being made now?
Yeah, it's in production,
but I haven't heard from them for a week or two.
So I'm hoping, you know,
they're working in the foundries and getting it all done.
The design is amazing.
The design's good.
I don't know what the final spoon is going to look like,
but whatever it looks like, it is going to go to Rob.
Rob, who lives in Enfield in England.
Oh, cool.
Rob, you have won a spoon.
We had a Corey and then a Cody and now a Rob.
I'll tell you who all the winners are so far.
They're all Patreon supporters, of course.
Guido, Adrian, Corey, Preben, Cody and Rob.
There we go.
Congratulations, Rob.
Rob, you're in the club.
All right, Tim, it's time for my idea.
Now, my idea is a pretty basic idea, but it's got a little twist in the tail.
So my idea is called Wind Beneath My Wings.
Right.
And what you do is someone comes on the show
and they have to bring with them a second guest
who has been in their life an inspiration
or a great support throughout their life,
the wind beneath their wings.
So you come on the show, you talk about the person,
you thank them.
I guess you embarrass them a little
bit aren't you and like say all the say all the reasons this person was really important to you
while they're there in the room with you and then once you've done that at the end you have to sing
to them wind beneath my wings by bet middler you have to sing it to them as a thank you for all
those years of support did you ever know that you're my hero must have been cold there in my
shadow i've heard that people use this at their weddings and so forth which is not entirely
appropriate really is it do you not think it's it's not quite the right tone but let's have a
look at the lyrics of wind beneath my wings bet midler sings in the film beaches in which she
plays like this famous star and she sing and at the end she's singing about her best friend through her life
Who was always this huge support
But wasn't a big famous person like her
Was behind the scenes
I've got the lyrics here somewhere
You keep them with you, do you?
I keep them always
I have them tattooed on my left leg
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
Bette Midler sings that bit better than me.
Okay, that's wedding appropriate.
It must have been cold there in my shadow to never have sunlight on your face.
You were content to let me shine.
That's your way.
You always walked a step behind.
So I was the one with all the glory, while you were the one with all the strength,
a beautiful face without a name for so long, a beautiful smile to hide the pain.
Did you ever know that you're my hero and everything I would like to be?
I can fly higher than an eagle, for you are the wind beneath my wings. You are the wind beneath my wings You are the wind beneath my wings
And so it continues
It might have appeared to go unnoticed
But I've got it all here in my heart
I want you to know the truth
Of course I know it
I would be nothing without you
Did you ever know you're my hero?
Etc, etc
I appreciate you reading that to me, Brad
It's time, it Yeah. It's time.
It's time.
Yeah.
It's time that you were more than just a face without a name, Tim.
I was the one with all the glory making math videos.
I guess it probably would be sweeter at the end of a married life.
You know what I mean?
Like it's a bit more than using it away.
But it's beautiful.
Do you know who I would love to hear sing this? do you think it should be a divorce song then no no
as in you've always been there you know what i mean yeah yeah rather than a promise do you know
the ultimate the ultimate person to sing this i would love to hear the queen sing this to prince
philip on her 100th birthday just comes out,
never hear her say much except her formal speeches.
And she suddenly turns to Prince Philip because he always walks a step behind,
you know,
he has to walk.
Oh,
must've been cold there in my shadow.
To never have the sunlight on one's face.
I think Her Majesty would just cap her term out beautifully
with a little bit of karaoke.
Do you know who I want to hear sing?
I want to hear Tom Hanks sing it to us.
Yes.
Yes, we are.
We've lifted him up.
Yes.
He's flown.
None have flown higher.
No.
I want to hear Tom Hanks sing it to the Queen.
Does the Queen have two Osccars no no no we're her oscars that's right yeah how many typewriters has she got that's right that's right uh yeah so yeah i would just think
it would yeah so anyway that's that's a good idea i think that's a great idea it has to have the
song being sung at the end though that's like that's the kick. That's a good idea. I think that's a great idea. It has to have the song being sung at the end, though. That's the kicker.
Just to make sure that it doesn't get too saccharine.
You know, like it's a wonderful moment and they go, all right,
well, wipe your tears, guys, because now it's time.
I'd love to hear Donald Trump sing it to Melania.
Oh, yes.
That would be nice.
Like, you know, at a White House banquet,
just suddenly just to break down and get a bit teary.
With his vulnerable side come out.
Get in touch.
I can see Trump singing, I was the wind beneath my wings.
I don't need wind.
When I saw.
I fly higher than eagles.
They're weak. Weak eagles. They're weak.
Weak eagles.
Weak eagles.
I'm one of the best flyers ever.
I fly better than anyone.
I'm a big flyer.
Good idea.
Lovely idea.
Thank you very much.
Do you want to have another idea from me?
Well, you've got another one.
Yeah, just because that was a quickie.
So I'm going to do another quickie.
Wow.
I don't know what this podcast is about but i
know what the format is right so you you can choose what it's about but episode one is one
minute long episode two is two minutes long episode three is three minutes long you get the idea so
episode 60 is an hour long and you're always talking about the same thing but every episode
is one minute exactly one minute longer than the episode before.
Are you building on the knowledge from the previous one?
Probably, yeah.
Talking about it in a different way.
Yep, yep.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Or it could be like, it could be a football podcast,
or, you know, it could be anything.
It could be whatever you're interested in,
but it's this kind of, this growing length.
Growing.
What do you think about that?
Intriguing. Hmm. It's no wind of growing length. Growing. What do you think about that? Intriguing.
It's no wind beneath my wings.
Well, no, no.
I think you might be heading into a slump, man.
Five minutes ago, you were so high.
The eagle has died. the wind has died down
i was just looking because we're at a stage at the moment where our episode numbers are roughly
similar to our episode lengths that's what got me thinking about it so i was thinking like you know
i wonder if we're ever going to have an episode where the episode number exactly matches the
length and that's what got me thinking about it wouldn't that be fun whenever i make a number file video if it's about a number
yeah and i if i can make it close to the length of that number so if it's about the number seven
and it's seven minutes long yeah or if it's or if it's pi and it's three minutes and 14 seconds long
like people just lose their minds they love it so yeah yeah yeah it's a lovely connection
well yeah no okay so i lovely a little bit of symmetry there going on.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if it's...
Yeah, it is symmetry, yeah, between the numbers.
Yeah.
It is.
And it's all, you know, growth.
Yeah.
I think that would be fun to do.
Maybe that just appeals to my kind of uber nerd, uber nerd mind.
I'm surprised no one's ever done that with an album, you know, like a one-minute song,
two-minute song, three-minute song and build it up that way and made that a theme.
Yeah.
I bet it has been done.
That seems such a gimme of an idea.
Why can't I just have a good idea?
And you go, that's a great idea.
You say, oh, it has to have been done.
That's an obvious idea.
Come on, man.
He's like, that's a great idea.
You're out of the slump.
You're flying.
You're jealous.
You're jealous because you're going into your slump.
I just want to be like you, Tim.
Is it cold back there in my shadow in the slump?
I'm a face without a name.
But I have a beautiful smile to hide the pain.
You do.
Anyway, that was just a little idea,
but obviously I'm going to have to cut that out now after Tim's just completely...
No, no, no, it's good.
You've kind of hurt my feelings a bit there, Tim.
Take it, people, and run with it.
Perhaps you could add to Brady's idea.
Finish the idea.
Polish it.
Polish it.
Polish it.
I'm not saying it's not a fully formed idea,
but if you have the other half of the idea,
go on to Reddit.
If you have the other 98% of the idea,
I've just sown the seed.
I've sown the seed.
You've given the length, which is not a lot.
We haven't even mentioned the length of all the other ideas.
You've just come out with the length.
That's it.
I'm thinking outside the box, man.
You are.
Should we let a patron have an idea?
Yes.
Please.
Anything to distract.
Okay.
I haven't got one lined up here, so I'm just going to find one.
All right, Tim.
I'll tell you what.
Normally we do the patron ideas randomly, but I'm going to rig the deck here
because Truman has sent us in an idea who we mentioned at the start of the show.
So let's have Truman's idea for a podcast.
Good call.
He says, to the esteemed Reverend Dr. Hine and Dr. Harron, lots of respect,
which is always a good way to get yourself into here.
After a little bit of banter in the prelim,
he actually says he likes listening to the podcast when he's in LA traffic.
It makes it easier to bear.
So always happy to be of assistance there.
But then he says,
so my idea for a podcast stems from my love
and fascination with accents.
Sadly, my Australian is lacking,
but that doesn't stop me from trying,
much to my girlfriend's dismay.
But I've always found it so interesting
that our environment and community where we grew up leaves this mark on us for the rest of our lives and affects the very way we
connect with other humans. The podcast would be called The Tower of Babblers, a play on the Tower
of Babel. In my head, the host would be a mix between Anthony Bourdain and the dialect coach
Eric Singer from The Wired Videos. Each episode, a guest would come on and it would be half talk,
half travel podcast where the host and guest just chat and make jokes and the host would provide
insights into their accent and describe what makes each guest's accent unique. They could even walk
around the guest's town and interact with people to order coffee for example, COVID notwithstanding,
and provide some context into
the local dialect at the end of each episode the guest could read from a fixed paragraph
the same for each episode yeah that includes a lot of telltale words that are pronounced
differently in different parts of the world to provide a kind of auditory version of a pangram
which is a sentence that uses every letter of the alphabet, like the quick brown fox
jumps over the lazy dog. The fixed paragraph could then be a reference to quickly compare
different accents. And after enough guests have been on, the readings could be edited together
into sort of a one-sided podcast to provide more insights. I think it would work very well in the
UK, where it seems like each street has its own accent. I'd also be interested to hear what this hypothetical host would have to say about people who grew up somewhere and then moved away, say from Adelaide to Bristol, and have since developed hybrid accents.
One friend I went through high school with grew up in London, so to me he sounded very English.
But then when he went home for vacations, his friends would say he sounded American.
I'm also fascinated with accents adopted by people who learn English as a second language.
I've met a fair number of people from Greece who went to either the British International School
or the American International School and they all have either American Greek or British Greek
accents when speaking English. I would be happy to host it but alas I have neither the expertise
nor the charisma nor the time i think that's the
biggest drawback of this idea that it's so host dependent but if talking about the idea entertains
you or any listeners i'll consider that a success thanks again for the hours of entertainment keep
up the excellent work yours truman ah solid idea he's uh yeah he's well written too well explained
yeah that is a good idea. It is, it is.
Accents are fascinating, aren't they?
People love it.
What do you think about my accent?
I've been having a lot of people talking to me about my accent the last week or two.
When I come back, when you haven't seen me for a while,
I guess it's changed because we talk so much now on the podcast,
but maybe earlier on when I used to come back, has my accent changed?
It has slightly.
There's a strange thing going on here anyway, because you're from Adelaide and of all of
Australia, Adelaide has an accent that's probably leans closest to the British.
It has a little formal kind of British tang to it that the eastern states don't have.
That's a bit more flatter and g'day mate, sort of, which is-
Too easy.
Coarse on the ear.
Yeah, yeah.
So, moving to Adelaide, I noticed that anyway,
and people noticed that.
But then you've gone to England, and I've noticed, yeah.
But I don't really hear it as an accent.
I hear it in you pronouncing words slightly differently
and in an English way.
So it's just been the odd word is said differently
rather than a general.
Yeah, or an inflection is put differently.
And you'll often go down at the end instead of going, you know,
isn't it?
You'll go, isn't it? Like you go down at the end. Yeah, yeah. Welection is put differently. And you'll often go down at the end instead of going, you know, isn't it? You'll go, isn't it?
Like you go down at the end.
Yeah, yeah.
We're going to the shop.
It's just that English way.
And I noticed that.
It's lovely.
It's charming.
Thank you.
It's an improvement on your previous accent.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Like my wife always thinks I sound more Australian when I go home from a trip to Australia.
Oh, I can imagine.
Yeah.
Because it gets sort of recharged and that. So part of me wonders whether now you and I talk so much more often
recording the podcast once a week or so,
whether or not that's kind of giving me a bit of a latent Australian influence
and keeping me anchored or whether or not.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
I have another friend who lives in the US
and when I go over there and spend a week or two hanging out with him, his American
wife notices that he reverts back to a more of a broader Australian accent, just with me hanging
around him for the week. Same deal.
Yeah. What's your favourite accent?
I do love the British accent, actually. I really do, especially in a feminine voice.
I love French as well. Yeah, French french sounds beautiful doesn't it comes off i
enjoy saying for you know you go to paris and you enjoy you sort of live into thinking you can say
a few words that come to mind as you go and you kind of enjoy saying it it feels sophisticated
and and beautiful i have a strange love-hate relationship with the Irish accent
because I think the Irish accent is beautiful.
And again, I really like, I have a bit of a weakness
for a lady with an Irish accent.
But even like a male Irish accent,
I find very nice sounding and lyrical.
But it's also the whingiest accent,
depending on what they're talking about.
Right.
So if they're just telling you a story,
a cute story about something that happened while they were like you know chasing a sheep across
the hills it's the best thing in the world but if they're talking about how they're not happy about
politics or something it's like it's it's really whiny like it sounds really complaining i wonder
it's because i'm just so used to hearing irish people complain about politics that i that i kind
of like it has this kind of like complaininess to it but but other times it is by far and away my favorite and I think it's the
most beautiful which is such a strange contradiction I remember Ben Elton makes that exact point the
comedian he talks about he says um Bono and Bob Geldof have been you know very successful advocates
for poverty issues because they just sound great talking about the poor
in their Irish accent.
Like they've got that sort of social justice-y kind of...
I will fight on.
Yeah, yeah.
That if they came from some, you know, quaint little part of England
and it's like, we need to drop the debt.
You know, please help out the church.
It sounds like a little man in the village, you know,
rather than, you know, this is a matter of life and death, you know.
It just sounds so – it's like, yes, let's rise up in arms.
We can do this.
I will fight on.
The workers.
It's got a marvelous accent.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's a much more diplomatic way of putting it, Tim, calling it.
It's like a – it's a good advocate's accent.
It is an advocate's accent, yeah.
I had a friend who was trained as an actor,
and she was superb at accents and had trained to do all the different parts
of the United States and different parts, she was sort of saying
and seemed quite convincing, of New York City as well. She says, oh, the Queens is a bit more like this. And she was doing of saying and seemed quite convincing of New York City as well.
She says, oh, the Queens is a bit more like this.
And she was doing that and it was just amazing.
She goes, the West Coast and LA and if you're over here,
the more Texans down here and then as you move up
and she was sort of able to give voice to all these different parts
of the United States.
It is quite a skill and doing accents is like something you feel
like you can do until you do it.
Like until the first syllable comes out of your mouth and then you realise you can't do it.
And you go into it so confident, don't you?
Because it's like drawing or painting for me, like drawing.
I can picture a really cool drawing of like a jet airplane and then if i try to draw it like my hand won't make it like my the connection between
what's in my brain and what my hand can do is is completely severed and i think it's like that
with accents i can hear an irish accent in my head and then when i start saying it it comes
it all comes out this one international accent, no matter what accent I'm doing.
That sort of Russell Crowe kind of accent that's got a bit of everything.
You know what I mean?
Like passes for whoever he's playing,
wherever he's in the world at any time.
I think I did accents at the Andy McDowell School of Acting.
I'll tell you who's good at accents, Tom Hanks.
Tom Hanks.
Actually, does Tom Hanks do accents?
The only film I saw him do accents in, I can remember, is The Terminal.
And I don't think that was his finest moment, The Terminal.
No, no.
He does a very...
We're even using Truman's idea to rip into Tom Hanks.
He does a very good sort of, you know, middle-aged American guy.
He does that.
That's all he is. He's had a bit of experience at being that guy.
So that's, you know, probably fair enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He does have a lovely voice though, doesn't he?
Lovely, lovely man.
Lovely guy.
Do you know what my favourite, and this is a connection to Tom Hanks too,
one of my favourite voices of all time is Jimmy Stewart.
The way Jimmy Stewart talks.
Right.
Has a lovely, lovely rounded fall voice.
I just love it.
Yeah.
And Tom Hanks is sometimes referred to as the modern Jimmy Stewart.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not, that feeling of confidence to give it a go is welling up inside me,
but I'm going to resist it.
Come on, Tim.
You did a good Irish one.
Your Irish one was good.
Your Irish was good.
Yeah, I don't know.
The Jimmy Stewart.
Well, now.
I'd get that moon and I'd pull that moon.
I'd throw a lasso around that moon and pull it down for you.
The old savings and loan.
That's not me playing a recording of Jimmy Stewart.
Be sure to edit that in later on.
Can you do a Tom Hanks?
How would you picture Tom Hanks?
I can't.
Not Forrest Gump because that's overly done.
You know what I mean?
And that's him doing a southern accent.
Alabama, yeah.
Yeah.
He says he got into that character. I was listening to this recently in an interview by mimicking um the young actor that played the young forest he said i'll just i'll
just follow his lead and that's how he sort of found his way into the forest yeah sort of voice
but no you can't you can't impersonate tom hanks that's like that's like i think i think you know
i don't think you're allowed to. No. I think it's forbidden.
There must be rules against that.
It's like...
Yeah.
It's like...
It would be like...
You know how you can't look inside the Ark of the Covenant
when you open it in Raid of the Lost Ark
because it's like...
It's too perfect a thing
and you're not worthy to look at it.
Whatever happens, keep your eyes shut.
It's like that impersonating Tom Hanks.
Yeah.
I could do it, but I wouldn't do it because...
My face would help.
I want you to stay alive.
All right.
There you go.
Well, Truman, if you were worried that knowing you're listening
was going to stop us talking about Tom Hanks,
I think we wouldn't really put that concern to bed.
But thanks for a bloody good idea.
That's one of the better ideas we've had. It is a very good idea that was a that's one of the better ideas it is a very
good idea gosh all right i think that's about it for today you guys ready to rock and roll
we've been according to my thing we've been yeah we're not going to hit the number of minutes of
this episode number either have we gone over no we're under oh oh do you want me to can you go for another 20
minutes i don't know you might need something close to that boy can i yeah that would do us
that would do us for now we're gonna rock and roll yeah what's another is there another goodbye
is there another datism for goodbye see you around like a rissole catch you
catch you guys on the flip side.
Oh, no.
Or I'll see you later.
Not if I see you first.
Oh, that's.
All right.
All right.
Stop recording.