The Unmade Podcast - 67: Water of Body

Episode Date: November 24, 2020

Tim and Brady discuss nightclubs, record deals, recording in the water (on location), a Singaporean spoon, last will and testaments, plus a patron’s idea. Go to Storyblocks for stock video, pictures and audio at storyblocks.com/unmade - https://www.storyblocks.com/unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/k0fsnp USEFUL LINKS Thanks Billy for the 90s techno dance mix of The Sofa Shop. Heaven nightclub - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Hf9r9Ai84 Prince’s slave protest - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/aug/10/history-prince-contractual-controversy-warner-paisley-park Burger Rings - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burger_Rings Oral-B “back of dentist” ad from Australia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMxijqq8iEA Photos from this episode, including at Brighton Beach - https://www.unmade.fm/episode-67-pictures Brighton, Adelaide - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton,_South_Australia The Dead Sea - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea Loch Ness - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loch_Ness Baywatch opening credits - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0nqwgu_Us4 Pictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Singapore’s Merlion - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlion Apollo 12 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_12 The Q Source - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source Brady’s Bibledex video series - https://www.youtube.com/user/bibledex The Riemann Hypothesis video on Numberphile - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6c6uIyieoo

The Sofa Shop We have a sofa designed for you Choose your fabric, match your curtains too So a shop ain't gonna cost What you know a shop ain't gonna cost What you know a shop ain't gonna cost what you think it will? Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop? There we go. Tim, does that remind you of your days at Heaven Nightclub? Big nights out. Yes, Heaven and the planet.

The planet. The planet night. You know, it's still empty there on Peary Street. No one's moved in. No one can replace the planet nightclub. I was, I don't know. I think I preferred heaven. One night in heaven.

Yeah. Heaven was the early one. I remember soon after year 12, us lining up to get into heaven and you still having your brain full of everything from your exams. So just bragging to another girl, just going through Shakespeare lines and physics equations and stuff, just pouring them out. I was just amazed. It was another quiet night at heaven for Brady, that's for sure. Well, we were more dancers than anything.

That was what we did. Yeah. It was like the final scene of footloose really when we got on the dance floor people just parted out of the way exactly i mean i so rarely got to interact with people at the nightclub because i was always up on those podiums dancing on poles and stuff that's right that's right we did get a bit carried away when it became like the final scene of dirty dancing though and you used to jump into my arms and i'd lift you up high over the ground. I always trusted you with the lift. Because we practised in the water, but we'll come to that later.

That's right. So anyway, that 90s dance version, it's the second time we've had a dance version. No offence to the previous one, I think that one was slightly better. But it's an iterative process. That one came from Billy. I'll just read what billy wrote with his 90s dance version uh hey legends i like that he started with legends

he obviously heard about us at heaven yep hey legends my name is billy i'm 23 and i'm from the 8.3 out of 10 city of canberra i run a small record label called Warm Water, and I'm an artist manager for two awesome bands. One's called Archie. The other's called Sputnik Sweetheart. They've got nothing on Tim's solo skills, but worth a squiz if you're into some good Australian indie rock. I've heeded your calls for a more techno-inspired rendition of the Sofa Shop jingle and created this 90s,

noughties electronic dance throwback tune complete with tacky synths and shameless techno build-ups please enjoy thanks for creating such a great podcast it's a stressful time for the music industry right now and the banter you two provide gives me a welcome respite from a pretty turbulent world love Love and lulls, Billy. Wow, there we go. I tell you, he's a born record PR guy, isn't he? Getting the band names in there as well. Bit of promo. Check him out. He's a flyer. Good work. Absolutely. Also, Tim, it must mean a lot to you knowing that you're helping the record industry with your work, you know? Oh, absolutely. I was afraid I was dominating it

becoming a bit of a monopoly there for a while and it's like no one was listening to anything else but i'm i'm encouraged to see that i'm inspiring a new generation coming through that you have become a bit like a bit like the u2 sort of you know a bit too big for your boots bit of a monster yeah yeah it's so difficult i you know, I've been busy off world changing as well And saving the planet But I get back to the music and bam You just set me up to play these things, man I don't even have to try

Do you know what I'd love? I'd love to get a record deal. Not even for anything, just to say, oh, I've finally got a record deal. Because I've read hundreds of biographies where the whole first third of the book is about trying to get a record deal. And then you finally land one, you know.

And I'd just love to be able to say, I've landed a record deal with what's the name of his record label is it it's a worm warm uh it was warm water warm water yep i'm signed to warm water there that's it small billy i mean could he make the hint any more obvious and i do you know what i'd love to do i'd love to get a really bad deal so i could be like you know like prince and everyone who's like signed to a bad deal for their first four records and they never make any money and then they you know what i mean have to break off and i could write slave on my face like prince did and then that's what i'd like a bad record deal

just like a oh i'm trapped in this record deal just for the experience that'd be cool did you not consider me saying gee that i wanted to do a podcast with you to be your first record deal no i just figured i'm helping you out with something really giving you a go you know lending my name but lending your name anyway that's that was a cool version i do like that i like your pop music needs to be joyful it needs to have you know happiness in it and that had joy i liked the little little repeats obviously he used carmine scousy himself the original singer as the basis and i did play that version to Carmine, by the way, and he really liked it. So, just a couple of little bits of follow-up.

Last episode, we did our unmade brand ambassador deals, Tim for Burgerings and me for the Oral-B Pro Expert Pulsar toothbrush. You've been a bit of a light touch on the uh ambassadorship so far i've noticed him it was a bit difficult because we kind of went into this lockdown here in adelaide all of a sudden and i i shopping was scarce we were grabbing essentials and i didn't crazy me get burger rings on the first trip to the overcrowded supermarket. But there seemed to be a big run on burger rings. They weren't there. There was plenty of toilet paper, but there was no burger rings.

People were just leaving with trolleys full to the brim with packets of burger rings. So the rules from the government was that one person could leave the house for one visit to the supermarket, and that was my wife. So I said to her, whatever whatever you do like with a serious face whatever you do and she's looking at me oh what's this i said make sure you get burger rings and her face just nice did the government introduce any kind of limit on the number of packets of burger rings you could buy in one trip or oh no they didn't specify it thank goodness so but she still only brought the one pack so people one pack yes yes i know i know she doesn't understand um influencing like we

do she's not even on social media so she doesn't know how much sway we are able to influence. Have you eaten any of those burger rings? Well, no, because I want to use them for influencing. I mean, I will. I guess I need to open them, take a few cool photos, you know, like. You have to do the classic photo of a hand with a burger ring on each finger, like five rings on a hand. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

That's the classic. You might want to use one of your daughters as the hand model there, though. No offence, Tim. What's wrong with my hands? Are you saying because I need to take care of them because they should be insured for my guitar playing? Is that what you're inferring? Exactly, yeah.

And I'm not sure they were part of the deal as well, the ambassadorship deal, your hands, you know, that costs extra. Fair enough. I mean, you're aadorship deal, your hands, you know, that costs extra. Fair enough. I mean, you're a good looking guy, Tim, but you're never going to be a hand model. I'm not George Costanza, that's right. I've actually got, my hands are looking a little bit prettier than normal. I've got a little bit of nail polish on at the moment. This is another part of the lockdown where the daughters get a bit bored and i end up with a little bit of nail polish on as well which i have to say is extremely

close to alice blue that alice blue gown for those who have listened to previous episodes it's quite blue nail polish all right we'll keep an eye we'll we'll let the unmade ambassadorships run a bit longer so keep an eye on tim's i don't know social media for burgering posts and i'll let the unmade ambassadorships run a bit longer. So keep an eye on Tim's, I don't know, social media for burgering posts and I'll let you know what's up with the toothbrush. I've done a couple of Instagram stories with my toothbrush. I want to see from you. Firstly, I want to make sure there's at least one photo with it in your mouth. Like that's essential.

But also the classic from behind photo. You know, now this was a classic ad in Australia. This is a dentist and we can't show you his face on television. It's a bit of an iconic ad in Australia. Yeah, yeah. This man is a dentist, so we can't show you his face on television. Morning, Rob. But the fact that he's brushing his teeth may prompt you to ask,

what sort of toothbrush the dentist used? He was a dentist and we weren't allowed to see his face, but he did have a very nice back. He was a dentist who obviously spent a lot of time in the gym. That's right, yep. Okay, Rob, show us. Oral-B. Preferred and used by three times as many dentists

as any other brand of toothbrush. Also, just a reminder to, if you're interested, you might want to sign up to the Unmade Podcast. When Tim stops getting the giggles, you might want to sign up to the Unmade Podcast Patreon, patreon.com slash unmadefm. There are all sorts of reasons to do it, obviously. You can have your ideas read out on the show.

You get a sofa shop pin. You can win a spoon. There's lots of bonus material. You can vote on titles of episodes. And most importantly, if you sign up before the end of November, you will have your name read out in our occasional epic name reading list Patreon things. I got all the words in the wrong order then, but you know what I meant.

Thanks, Yoda. That's well explained. Patreon, you should join. All right. So, ideas for a podcast? I've got an idea and this has been pre-recorded. This was an idea I had and we recorded it while I was in Australia recently with you because I wanted to record it on location.

So, well, should we just roll tape and let the idea do the talking? Absolutely. I'm not actually rolling tape. I'm just splicing in a digital file. I couldn't hear any whirring in the background. So, Tim, how's this for an idea for a podcast yeah i'm gonna call it ocean cast and every episode is filmed in the water at some famous water of body in the world you know it could be the dead sea or you know some pacific coast or something or today... Whoa! Today... Good timing. Today, Brighton Beach

in Adelaide. You said water of body. Do you want to change it to body of water? I don't know. What do you think? I did mean body of water but we'll let that go. Just to show that I'm human. You are. So... This is beautiful. But what do you think of the idea

for a podcast? Going around to different places and saying, today I'm in the Black Sea. Today I'm in Sea of Galilee. I thought it was a good idea and then the water hit me and it's cold. We haven't got to that special place yet where the water gets especially cold. But as we get deeper and deeper, so Tim and I are wading out into the sea. It's getting a little bit, it's not the warmest. A lot of seaweed in the water here too. Oh! We're holding our microphone so we mustn't go too deep otherwise we'll have electronics issues. I think it's a great idea. I like this idea. That doesn't mean you can go. See you later. Let's go. No, we have to get to

that special time when the water... I want to hear your voice go. You won't change a few octaves. Reaches the tender thigh. Yeah. Man, I've just noticed we're not between the flags from the lifeguards. So perhaps we should get out, wait, and then move. They have got the red and yellow flags out that you're supposed to swim between. And we're about 20 metres away from the safe zone where they'll come and rescue us.

But, you know, we're men of the that little wave that little wave just warned us that we're getting close to this special time look it's getting closer to summer but it's not quite summer here in adelaide even though the sun's out the water is crisp so if we so let's maybe we should we should be facing the waves so we see them coming but we're trying to shelter from the wind for the microphones if we did make ocean cast what are some of the uh oceans and seas you'd like to podcast what's called the one that comes to mind is the dead sea oh yeah in israel which is um oh really quite. People may, I'm sure everyone's generally aware that it's got six times, I think, the normal salt level of other seas, and it's a very small

sea. So you float, you sit on top. Yeah. And that's really quite, I was there last year, and it's really quite quirky and fun. I've been looking forward to it for a long time. You can sit up on top of the water. That would be a perfect place. That would be good. I'd have, I have been there and tasted the water, but I've not gone out and floated on it so i do envy you that do you recommend tasting the water absolutely not it tastes like battery acid it's no matter it's it's not just like oh that's a little bit too salty oh they went a bit heavy on the salt there it's like this is going to eat my tongue out of my mouth saltiness oh so that's nice what about what are some other bodies of water i'm thinking like have you been places the mediterranean the mediterranean then oh that was a big wave

mediterranean sea of galilee some of the great lakes maybe they're quite cold so that would be oh i think i had to graze uh the um all right we've got to go out a bit deeper we haven't been real men have you been on the water at Loch Ness? Not on the water, that's another good one Maybe Ocean Cast is the wrong name Water of Body Cast? Thank you Now I definitely can't edit it out

We're getting a bit deeper now, we're up to a sort of Mid buttocks Tim is looking very uncomfortable Now we're up to a sort of mid buttocks. Tim is looking very uncomfortable. No, no, we're... Tim's family's here. We're waving to your very uninterested daughter. Have you been taking some pictures? Look at that reluctant look.

Take a picture. If people are finding it difficult to form a mental image, perhaps they'd like to put on the opening credits to Baywatch what it looks like here today yeah the family's on the beach I can see the dog I think I thought maybe more train spotting there's my mum there's my mum walking towards us yeah your wife and dog are there where's your mum gone? my mum your mum's here somewhere oh oh oh that was a big wave

I think it's time I think it's time to to dip the tea bag no I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna risk it I'm gonna risk it

alright we'll do it we'll do it together do it in sync ready one two is it gonna be one of those it's not gonna be one of those you didn't do it no no i'll do it

all right one two three go now my mom's taking photos now my mom's taking photos with a better camera so we'll uh we'll wave oh dear oh no she's fiddling my mom likes to fiddle with the settings there we go this is the look of two men that just got very cold yeah oh there we go oh this will end up on a calendar somewhere it will it will oh there we go i'm submerged now what is what is your favorite body of water oh good question uh um i like oceans like I like oceans. Like, I like oceans in general over lakes and stuff, I think.

I'm struggling to think, mainly because I'm just struggling to think because I'm absolutely frozen. Is there a lake somewhere or a river even? See, that's the other thing. There's rivers. Yeah, there's rivers. I mean, I'm sort of... I am just struggling to think,

but I always say just because I like so many. Like, let me think. What's yours? You think of one while I... Lakes entrance? Oh, well, obviously it would be, yeah. The Trelken Creek. I caught my first fish in the Trelken Creek, so that means a lot,

but I wasn't actually on the water. Oh, later on. Whoa, there's a big one! The 50-year storm is coming in. Luckily, we should have surfed that one back. We should have, yeah. I really love the beach at Byron Bay. We were there last year, and that's just a fantastic place.

Beautiful. I stood up surfing for the first time, so that meant a lot. Nice. It's just a beautiful Australian beach. I like a lake in the mountains. Like when you climb mountains and you find those little lakes that form like a basin in a mountain range. I quite like those lakes. I love the Blue Lake in Mount Gambier.

Oh, right. Yeah. I've never seen that, but everyone tells me it's... Oh, what? I know I've driven past it, if you like, so many times on the alternative road a distance from it, but I've never been there. Crazy. Yeah, madness.

You're missing out. What about, this would include your podcast favourite swimming pools as well, perhaps? Oh, well, my childhood swimming pool was the best swimming pool there ever was. Right, yeah. Still is. Some amazing things happened in that pool. You know, classic catches, brilliant dives, world record attempts at swimming the furthest any human has ever swum underwater. Many, many, many unfair and cruel tortures.

Putting my sister under the waterfall. We had this waterfall and you pressed a button and the waterfall would come down over the rocks and go into the water. Oh, yeah. So one of us would hold her under the waterfall so she couldn't get away. Basically, it was water torture. Wow.

It was water torture before water torture was frowned upon. Before the UN stepped in. Yeah, so good times, good times. Yeah, so maybe my podcast idea should go beyond that. It should go into, yeah, just maybe the premise is the podcast has to be recorded in water like we are now. Yep, yep. How do you find podcasting in water? Now we've been doing it for 10, 15 minutes.

It's funny, I was worried because you think you're going to drop our microphones, our recording devices, and oh dear, that's going to be hundreds of dollars and all the rest of it. Funnily enough, I've not given that a second thought since i got into the water my mind's been taken by something else still preservation i think yeah yeah it's very pleasant because you're out here it's very pleasant actually just standing here having a chat we should do all our podcasts this way we should i feel like one of us should be on a door and the other one's like protecting them like trying to oh that was a bigger a bigger wave. My mum's still photographing us, so there is going to be a calendar of pictures. We didn't need to film it

because there'll be enough photographs to string together into footage. Your daughter, who's been in the sea over to our left, she looks like maybe she's stopping, I'm not sure. Yeah, coming out. I reckon the Tarelgan Pool was close for me, the Tarelgan sort of town pool oh yeah very exciting because not only would we go there and play like every day jump off the big diving board was a big step in my childhood yeah basically i learned pretty much to swim there

yeah um and but then we also went down there for our school swimming carnivals as well yeah so you'd be like racing in the area where normally you'd play and so there's so many meaning attached for me that's the marion swimming center so once or twice a year whatever school i was at you would have swimming lesson week where they you know they taught you to swim in safety and stuff like that i mean i was already a good swimmer but it was so all kids had some water safety so we would go there and that was always an exciting time half the excitement of the trelligan pool was the tuck shop canteen, though, where you'd get, like, paddle pops and... That's more like it. That was taking a little bit of cash down there.

That's more like it. All right. And we haven't even touched on the Adelaide Aquatic Centre, where Tim was crowned swimming champion of 1990. Was it 93? 93, yeah. 93. That was a mighty year.

That's a whole episode on its own. People will have probably already heard about that through their own uh yeah media all right well i think that was good getting a wave should we go over should we draw this to a close and go over and say hi to your daughter who's braved it back out she's doing very well she's way more confident than us oh yes she has decided to abide by the strange practice of um swimming with a baseball cap on which is we're all doing that good sun smart activity now she's throwing seaweed at us oh dear all right back to the sand oh oh you got me you got me with the seaweed so tim have you recovered from the hypothermia yet yes i have and it's i tell you getting pretty

warm now. So, the idea of getting down to Brighton Beach where we recorded that sounded pretty good today. It was bracing and refreshing, but cold water is good for you. So. Yeah. Yeah. It seems to be very cold. I find in Adelaide, you know, it's a hot day and get very hot, very hot, like 45 degrees Celsius, as you know and yes but you know stay that way for a week you still go in the water and it's very very cold which is very refreshing when it's 45 but the rest of the year it's very very cold where and on reflection do you do you like my ocean cast idea or water cast or you know recording in different bodies of water all around yeah no

this is a good a good idea it's a it's a good example of you thinking outside the box. I think that's great. And different bodies of water, I think, is a really good twist to it. No, that's well done. But Oceancast is such a good name. Yeah, it does sound vast. It sounds like a watch, you know, like. Oh, yeah.

The new Omega Oceancaster. Oceancast, yeah. It's like James Bond's going to be yeah the new the new omega ocean caster ocean cast yeah it's like james bond's going to be wearing the new ocean cast in the next film the ocean cast pulsar pro expert nice work thank you very much i'm uh i'm pleased with it and on the actual day of recording today as we're recording now it's just no work for me because it's all been done already. Yes. Yes. Well done. We can get straight into talking about Storyblocks.

Tim, you segued to the ad. I did. I did. I know. I'm really coming along, everyone. I didn't prompt that. Tim hasn't got notes. He just felt it.

He felt it was time. I could tell. I could tell. Yep. Yep. It's time for Storyblocks. I was eager. I was at the gate going, let me in.

Storyblocks is a fantastic site with a universe of footage and photos and audio that you can access at any time. Have you written this down? No, I'm just talking. Wow. This is incredible. We have done this before. But normally I do that bit. I assume you're just not listening.

Oh, sorry. No, no. Is this wrong? I can, okay. No, no. Do you know the website people can go to to look at story blogs? It starts with www. Is that right?

Yeah. HTTP. No, no. can go to to look at storyblocks uh starts with www is that right yeah http no no it's um i want to say it's storyblocks.com slash unmade yes that is where people should go and unlock this universe as tim described of incredible royalty-free stock material that they can use in their creations, their websites, their videos, their podcasts, whatever you're making. But do you know what? Don't just take Tim and my word for it because, you know, who are we? We're just two guys. Take the word of Blair, who is an Unmade Podcast listener, a civilian, who sent us a message this week, which I thought was going to be a bit of like, you know, a love letter to us because it started off saying nice things about us, love the podcast, love all your ideas and your friendship and stuff.

And I was thinking, oh, this is nice. And then suddenly Blair's message took a sharp turn. And Blair wrote, I also do enormous amounts of editing and videos for our church's student ministry. I can't tell you how many hours I've wasted sifting through and downloading YouTube videos looking for animations, sound effects, royalty-free music and stock footage. Well, after hearing you talk about Storyblocks

for the past eight months, I don't think it's been eight months, but anyway, I decided to get a license for our church. Within less than five minutes of having the license, I accomplished what would have taken me an hour. I was able to find exactly what I needed right away. So, thank you for putting a smile on my face, laughter in my heart, and pointing me towards Storyblocks. Wow. Time saved is more time spent with my students and their families. Keep it up.

You both matter and make a big difference. Then maybe you realise. Thank you again and God bless. Blair. Oh, isn't that fantastic? Isn't that good? When we look back at our careers, Tim, and we think about what we did for the world, we can think we introduced Blair to Storyblocks.

That's right. we think about what we did for the world we can think we introduced blair to storyblocks that's right and we can't say he didn't thank us because that is the most lovely eloquent thank you to storyblocks and and my attitude is you know in life if you can introduce just one person to storyblocks that's right all right so thank you blair thank you storyblocks that address again storyblocks.com slash unmade seriously check them out fantastic fantastic resource for both tim and myself and now for blair well now it's time for can i play it can i play it absolutely love it that is awesome that's still i was i was listening back to our episode the other day and checking a few things and i came on to this part and i just giggled and i just couldn't stop

giggling over and over. It's my favourite moment. I love it. Have you made it your ringtone yet? No. How do I do that? I don't know, but I did release it to Patreon supporters. So if you're a Patreon supporter, you go onto like the feed there.

You can download the Spoon of the Week jingle as your ringtone. I don't know. I don't know how to put it. I'm not a Patreon supporter. Patreon supporters of our podcast. You won't let me because you like to do secret things. So you need to send it to me. I'm not stopping you becoming a patron supporter.

If you sign up and want to chip in a buck an episode or something, then you can get that ringtone. I can do it. Okay. All right. I'll do that. I'll do that. You told me not to once upon a time.

I was all up. I like to that. You told me not to once upon a time. I was all up. I like to support us in any way I possibly can. But I... All right, well. I want to get the ringtone. I will be putting it on. I love it. Maybe not for phone calls.

Maybe for just... Can you set a phone so that you get a different ringtone for different people? So only when I text you, it goes... Spilled on the week. The problem with that is that you text me more than anyone in the world, including my family. It would be safer to do it for everyone else.

You live with your family, of course they don't text you You're locked down together No, I know, I know, I know But we sort of have this, you know, sort of four-way text thing So we text everyone all the time, you know what I mean? So we all know what's going on And even still, so I'm getting all sorts of texts that don't matter Even still it wouldn't be as much as, you know, gags I get from you

The more important question is, why am I not in that family four-way text group? I want in. Oh, dear. Okay, well, anyway, listen, just getting back, like, to the spoon. Right. We haven't even got to it at all yet. You had to let him get back to it.

Are you ready for me to explain and introduce this week's Spoon of the Week? I was born ready. Hang on. It's been so long since we played the jingle. Let's get that run up again. You ready? Let's do it. Let's do it. Well, Brady, this week's Spoon of the Week is from Singapore. It really is quite a classy, beautiful piece of... Spoonage? Yeah, spoonage. There's a few things to explain here. Look, it's beautiful and it's gold and blue. Yeah.

It's got those sort of lovely Singaporean colours to it. The scoopy bit has some flowers in it. Now, I don't know if they are some indicative flowers of Singapore, if they're just beautiful. Are they leaves even? What do you think? I don't know. I'm looking at it.

I think Singapore is famous for a flower, but I don't know what one it is. I'm just looking up what it is. Oh, right. Orchid. Orchid. Ah, beautiful. The hybrid orchid. It's an orchid, isn't it? Oh, that's lovely. I love an orchid it's an orchid isn't it oh that's lovely

i love an orchid you just don't recognize one when it's enameled on a spoon no indeed i have to say they are prettier in real life than they are in the bowl of a spoon um but yeah no there they are and then up the spoon it says singapore um sideways when you if you hold it on a horizontal way with this goopy bit on the right it says singapore um sideways when you if you hold it on a horizontal way with this goopy bit on the right it says singapore along the handle and then you get up the top and you find now man is this a lion or what is this image here are you familiar with this national symbol of some kind i mean yeah the singapore is very associated with the lions and i right i believe yeah there's a famous statue of a lion in singapore and stuff as well so So, it's like, it's the national symbol.

But it's like it's got the bottom of a fish, like it's a lion mermaid. Yeah. I think it's called a merlion. It's a merlion. I'm looking on the internet now. I'm not pulling from my vast knowledge of Singapore. Yes. It's a merlion.

So, it is half lion, half mermaid thing, I think. I should know this. I should point out my sister and brother-in-law and nephews have lived in Singapore for a very long time. So I should know more about Singapore. I do have ties with Singapore. Have you been to Singapore yourself? Yes, I have been to Singapore a couple of times. Yeah, me too.

It's very neat and very warm, isn't it? That's what my impression was. Yes, quite humid. Always rains in the afternoon. A little bit polluted, but very tidy city. Very tidy, very neat. I sort of got that feeling, like very shopping centre-ish. So this spoon, obviously, I mean, it doesn't look like the other spoons. It's got a bit of a different look to it, obviously, because it's come in from Asia. Do you know how this came into the Hein Family Collection? I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you don't i don't i don't because no my you never do these are the spoons are a real mystery to me as well yeah most of the time when i've asked mum about them she sort of just says no, I don't know where that came from.

But we just, we've just, I think dad may have just bought half these spoons at a garage sale, yard sale somewhere. I don't know. Because he just wanted as many spoons as he could get without necessarily having been to the places. I know they both, neither of them have been to Singapore. been to the places i i know they both neither of them have been to singapore um so it's just but they wanted a singapore spoon and here they have it i know of no close friends or family members that have been to singapore but obviously someone has and they've they've brought this back for mum and dad and they've hung it on the wall i remember one time i was with uh our friend chris who's become known to civilians because he was the guy who had

the Nikes that I wrote to Michael Jordan about and I was once at Chris's house and he had this trophy reasonably impressive trophy I can't remember if it was for cricket or football or what it was for and I said to him like what's the deal with that trophy what did you win it for and he told me that he'd gone to the tip with his dad his dad was throwing a bunch of stuff away and he just saw the trophy sitting in the tip and picked it up and took it home and it was i mean he thought it was funny too we had a laugh about it but he just had this cool trophy in his room and it was like you know oh man maybe that's your dad with spoons he probably he probably brought people home and boasted about all the places he'd been around the world maybe he did yes maybe he's

like you know it's like oh yeah singapore singapore i was loved going to singapore they're like oh you must show us the photos sometime. Oh, I don't know where those photos are. No, no, just got the spoon. Just the spoon. Maybe he just, you know, he's like, he'd just use it in front of people. Like he'd just be, they'd sit down for a cup of tea and he goes, oh, just get some sugar with my Singapore spoon. Imagine if Neil Armstrong came back from the moon and NASA were like oh where's the camera show us all the photos and he's like I didn't take any photos but check out this spoon

this is a moon spoon I went all the way to the moon and all I got was this lousy spoon that'd be pretty cool did they I know when they went to the moon, they landed in different places on the moon, didn't they? So there was no chance. It's not like they left a message and then they went back and brought a message back or brought a flag back that had been there.

There was none of that kind of action going on, was there? No, there was none of that. But the second Apollo mission to land on the moon... Sorry, you brought it up, so now I'm going to get all serious and interested in the moon. Yeah, no, no. The second moon landing, Apollo 12, actually deliberately tried to land as close as possible to a robot lander called the Surveyor, this automatic probe that landed by a crater and did some tests, and it just sat there on the moon.

So Apollo 12, its mission was to land as close as possible to the surveyor and then the two astronauts, Pete Conrad and Alan Bean, walked across to where the surveyor was. You could see it on the horizon. They walked to it and they actually cut a little bit of the probe off and brought it back to Earth to show how being on the moon for however long it had been there had affected the metal and the components over that time.

So there was human things that went to the moon that was brought back from the moon by Apollo 12, but none of the six Apollo missions that landed on the moon landed near another Apollo landing site. Right, okay. So they didn't find a spoon or leave a spoon. That would be pretty cool, wouldn't it? I don't know what the situation are with spoons on the moon

because I know when they would take off from the moon, they had to get the weight of the lunar module down as much as possible to take off. So, they would throw their boots out the door. They threw all their excrement in bags and were thrown out the door onto the moon before they took off. So, if they were using any spoons to eat their food in their couple of days on the moon, sometimes it's possible they throw spoons out onto the moon before they took off so if they were using any spoons to eat their food in their couple of days on the moon sometimes it's possible they throw spoons out onto the moon as well maybe there are spoons on the moon wow wow like boots and spoons just laying there on the moon amazing we just litter everything we we go we do we do we do, we do. There's good Coke cans just laying there. Anyway, that's a nice spoon, Tim.

Wherever it came from, whether it came from the tip where Chris got his trophy from or whether it was brought back from Singapore or what happened, nonetheless, it is an impressive spoon. I must say my dad was pretty good at finding cool stuff at the tip and bringing it back too. Is that where you got most of your sports trophies from? That's right. That's right. I was surprisingly good at ice hockey, even though it was...

I remember one night at trophy night, right, when I played football at like under 12s, under 14 sort of age, and I remember I never won one of the special trophies, like best and fairest and, you know, those sorts of ones. Right. Just the normal contract that everyone else I know I know I mean I did but I just took them and threw them on the tip just gave them to Chris I just won and I just won a um you know they just give out you know like little trophies to everyone else because you actually

played that year but I remember dad was so proud because the coach on trophy night when I was getting up to receive my just ordinary, you know, also ran kind of trophy. Participation award type thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one that everyone got. And he, but dad was so proud because the coach stopped and made like a special mention of that. I was such a nice guy. Like, and,

and he said, he goes, Tim's, I mean, he's just always a training on time. And he says, he goes time and again, I'd put him on the bench and he wouldn't complain.

And I look back now and I'm like, hang on. You didn't need to say that. Did you like it? Dad was just so proud, you know. Maybe your dad thought like the bench was a position like full forward. Keeps going up to the coach and saying, how about you move my son to bench? You know.

The coach is like, all right, Mr. Hynde. Don't have to ask me twice. That's right. That's right. Oh, dear. Yeah. All right. Anyway, thus ends Spoon.

Spoon. I'm weak. There'll be a link. We have a webpage now on the Unmade Podcast website that has all the spoons that Tim's ever had on Spoon of the Week. So you can go and have a look at the gallery. It's quite the collection. You've got to get a rack.

You should have a rack on the wall at home. And once a spoon has been featured on Spoon of the Week, it goes onto the rack. That's a good idea. That's a really good idea. I'm not just a pretty face. I might even do it at the office so people can come and visit it and stuff and see it. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, have it at the church. That could get your church visitor numbers up as well. You should have it in the main, like, body of the church, like, under one of the stained glass windows. Yeah. So people can come and, like, pray with it and stuff. Is that what you're saying? I know the Bible says something about false idols or something, but it didn't mention spoons.

Spoons, no, no. It didn't, like, rule out spoons. I actually wondered about a podcast idea called Last Will and Testament where people come on and basically read out their will. They read out what they've decided to do with their stuff. And there will be a few requirements on this. So when guests come onto the podcast, there's a few requirements. That is, they have to list a few, maybe three key possessions

that they're going to specifically allot to a particular person. And they've got to say why, what they are, where does this precious thing come from, why it matters a lot to them, and why it's going to this particular person after they pass. So we're not going to go into like the details of their finances and their money and stuff like that? No, that's right. We wouldn't be doing an audit, no. It would be...

Because when you're a kid, isn't it? When you're a kid and you think of wills, you think that's all it is, isn't it? You think it's just a big list of this book goes to John. Yeah, yeah. This lamp goes to Fred. Like, not all the boring financial stuff. And I've dealt with a few wills, you know, from my parents. And we've done one for us.

And you know that it's pretty much just all about the whole lot going somewhere and who and it's very dry but yeah i like the idea of you know having the sort of the you know the sort of the rich distant aunt who says this you know thing goes over here and this goes over there and this is a great idea tim for a podcast leaving who you're leaving your things to i love it and you know what even a decent name i don't know what's going on with you today but you you did the ad you did the ad yourself now you're coming up with good ideas I don't know what's going on The only thing I think is going to happen now Is you're going to have ballsed up the recording

And the whole thing's going to be missing Actually this counter should be moving I'm going to need my last will and testament If I stuff this up again It's like Mr Snuffleupagus only turns up when no one's around I'm going to need my last will and testament if I stuff this up again. It's like Mr Snuffleupagus only turns up when no one's around. Tim only does a good podcast when it's not recording. Tim does a good podcast in the forest and no one records it.

Did it really happen? Mr. Snuffleupagus. How old were you when you realised that Big Bird was the only one that could see Mr. Snuffleupagus along with us? Oh, no, I was well aware of it. I found it endlessly frustrating. Oh, no. I think I only found that out very late, but that's brilliant. Yeah. So before we get into a few examples and bits and pieces, Tim,

for this excellent idea of yours, can I ask, is there anything of mine that you would like? Oh. You know, if I die, is there anything you'd like me to leave you? Oh, that's a good idea. Do you still have that lightsaber that you bought? Yeah. You know, that place on Grote Street?

Yeah, I'm looking right at it right now. Yeah, I want that. That's cool. Okay. Yeah, I love that. I talk about that all the time. That appeared in our life at a time when, you know, we were massively into sort of going into that retro phase

where we're buying back all the Star Wars stuff that we'd thrown out when we were kids. But no one else was into Star Wars stuff yet. It was still the sort of, you know, mid-90s and the hype wasn't back. So just finding that was just, I mean, it was overwhelming, wasn't it? I remember because we coveted it in the window. I've talked about it before on various podcast people, but for those who don't know, it was this replica of the Return

of the Jedi lightsaber that Luke Skywalker has. It was homemade by a guy in Adelaide, I think, on like a lathe or something, but it looks just like, and it's steel and it's really lovely. And we coveted it through the window of this comic book store in Adelaide. I remember when I got my first proper job at the advertising newspaper, I actually had like real money. Like it was looking back at it now, it was like chicken feed. But for me, I felt like I was a millionaire all of a sudden. And this thing cost,'t know $100 $200 I can't remember but it seemed like a lot of money at the time and I remember going home and just agonizing over it and saying to dad you know I really want it and I've got the money I could afford it now and he says we'll just go and buy it and I literally

got on the bus into town just to buy the lightsaber got got on the bus, walked in, asked him to get it out of the window, gave him the money. I couldn't believe I was doing it. And then walked back to the bus stop and caught the bus home with this lightsaber in my hands in a bag. And I couldn't believe I'd bought it. It was like the first extravagant purchase of my life. It was the first time I bought something that cost, you know, over $100 with my own money. And I still have it to this day. Like, you know, things have come and gone out of my life, possessions I've had and lost and sold and thrown away. But I just can't part with this.

And everywhere I've lived in the world, you know, I'm in England now and it's still here with me on display on a shelf. Oh, it's great. It's been with you like that so long that when I was last there a few years ago and I saw it, I felt nostalgic. Oh, there's great. It's been with you like that so long that when I was last there a few years ago and I saw it, I felt nostalgic. Oh, there it is. You know, not from Star Wars, just like, oh, from years ago. It's Brady's lightsaber. I'm glad you've still got it.

It's Brady's lightsaber. That's right. Yeah. All right. Yeah, that's cool. You can have that. You can have that. Oh, that's great.

Is there anything of mine that you want? Yes. I want your swimming carnival medal and then i'm gonna throw it into a volcano just to see what happens that's probably it all right what about the fanta shorts do you want the fanta shorts where are they still around yes yes the fantasy in fact the medal is sitting on the fanta shorts? Do you want the Fanta shorts? Are they still around? Yes, yes, the Fanta shorts. In fact, the medal is sitting on the Fanta shorts in a tub, a plastic tub. I don't know. In my head, I imagine you being buried in the Fanta shorts. We're going to bury him in a burial.

Then again, it's probably in your will to be buried wearing that medal too. Oh, no, that's far too precious some grave robbers will come it'll be like egypt all over again a thousand years from now they'll be like it'll be like tootin carmen you know you'll be able to go to a museum and there's like oh there's mummified tim and there's the fanta shorts and there's the medal that we found around his neck no it'd it'd be like, why is he not wearing the famous medal that we've read so much about? Oh, the grave robbers took that almost straight away. That's right. It's on the black market.

Tell me more about things. Has anything specific ever been left to you in a will? Not like that, no. No, no. No, nothing. I've never received a particular item. Things have kind of been passed down. And that's probably one item that immediately came to mind when I thought about, oh, what would I do with some of my stuff? Like I've got a, I wear a couple of rings and they're pretty sort of chunky, I guess, sort of 70s rings in a way.

a couple of rings and they're pretty sort of chunky, I guess, sort of 70s rings in a way. And one of them was given like it was for my grandfather. And when he died, he gave it to my mum and said, look, give this to whoever marries you. And then she met and married dad. And so, dad wore it for many years. And then when I got my first degree, he gave me that. And I thought that I think that's pretty cool. So it's kind of handed down that way, but not in a will, which is kind of, yeah, the point of this podcast. Have you ever had a lawyer call up out of the blue and say, you know? No, no.

A distant aunt has got this? No, I don't think I have. I'd be interested to hear if any civilians have. Like if anyone's had anything specific left to you, go on to like the subreddit or, you drop us an email or tweet or something i do want to hear about these but no i i've never got one specifically have you itemized anything in your will obviously i'm sure there's you know broad brush stuff to do with your you know your wife and your kids and that but are there any specific things like that in your will no nothing is itemized not that i can remember no not specifically because to itemize it means that you don't want it has to

go away from where the rest of your estate is going and the estate's all sort of going in one direction so i don't think i have so there's no like little object for a friend or something or there's no you haven't got some friend of yours that you've been friends with since high school who's special enough to you to have thought about to leave something in your will or something, or there's no, you haven't got some friend of yours that you've been friends with since high school who's special enough to you to have thought about to leave something in your will or something? Well, obviously I'll have to tell the lawyer to adjust it now for the medal for you. Yes. But I, do you want, like, I've got all the Rolling Stone magazines from the nineties. Do you want them as well? No, no. They're just the medal. Okay. Imagine if you like contact your lawyer and like say oh i've got this friend called brady harron you give him my details and say you know because he i want to give him

this medal and your lawyer like misinterprets the call or the email and i become like the sole beneficiary of everything and i swoop in well there is what what do you just ebay everything bit by bit it's like the tim heinous dates coming onto ebay have you heard sotheby's buy it now 50 bucks get the whole lot including the guitar that the performance money for nothing was played on yeah oh that solo yeah of course I just happen to be looking at it It's right here So I Yeah

I really do walk into these things don't I Do you curse it? Do you curse it every day when you look at it? No it's cursed enough already It cursed you It was born cursed. This is like something from Tootin' Carmen. It's cursed.

It's cursed. Everywhere I go, I've got a few tubs of things in the room I'm in, which has stuff in it from when we moved. Did I mention that we'd moved house? So I'm looking through into the clear tubs and going, is there anything there? A couple of old hard drives, a few old iPhones there, man. Would you like those?

Lots of cables, lots of old charging cables. Lots of cables. I know you like cables. Is there anything of yours that you think about, like say you were to die, you know, because you probably will sometime. I will one day. Is there anything of yours that you're sad,

like will probably get thrown away, like that you think should be kept forever, but you know deep down, like, you know, one day your girls are just going to throw it in a dip? Probably some books. I have a lot of books. Yeah. Probably a thousand at work and a thousand at home. And it's partly just because I think I've spent too much money over the years on them. So I sort of feel like they're worth something.

And I want to go on believing they're worth something because of the investment that i've made in them but i know that at the end of the day they're not oh books are only worth anything to the person who wants them so there's a few c.s lewis first edition things i've mentioned this before and they're kind of precious but they'll yeah they might keep a few of those i don't know but i like to think they'll be treasured but they won't be right there's a few bits of art around the place that I really love, you know, that are signed and nice signed prints and things like that. But I think they'll be kind of treasured. I think my daughters will like those.

I also hope your daughters will be savvy enough to figure out what things are worth money and don't just throw your C.S. Lewis first edition in the tip with your, you know, boring, you know, Heroes of Richmond Football Club book or something. Yeah, where Chris could just come along and steal it and bring it home. By the way, Chris, if you're listening, can you please amend your will to leave me that trophy that you found at the dump that time?

Oh, yeah, that would be awesome. I wonder if he threw that away eventually and it went back to the dump. Whether it's still, like like at his mum's, she just is blissfully unaware that this is not something that he did. What about you? If you were on this podcast, do you have an item or two that you'd want to hopefully go to a particular person? I do wonder what's going to happen to my seven scrapbooks of all my articles

that were in the advertiser. Like every story I ever wrote, like I imagine that's going articles that were in the advertiser like every every story i ever wrote like i imagine that's gonna end that's gonna end up in the tip pretty quick i mean i think most of my stuff's gonna end up in the tip pretty quickly when i was there you had a lego millennium falcon you hadn't built yet if you still haven't built that by the time you die i love that yeah if i do die soon by the way like make sure you get in touch with my wife quick because I reckon you've got less than a week until she throws everything away. So get on the phone, like say your nice things and, you know, your supportive words,

but then very quickly get in what you want to keep. While we're talking, can you just flip the camera around on FaceTime and show me what's there? Look, that, that, that, that. And then, once they've been earmarked, still, make sure you get over here quick. Are you constantly being subtly encouraged to clear things out a little bit, are you? Subtly is not the word I would use, but...

Let's put it this way. I now have an off-site storage unit that i visit once a week or so just to put more stuff in and it's like absolutely full to the rafters of all that sort of stuff that's where my millennium falcon is for example all right yep yep that's it that's where it's where all grown men put their unmade lego boxes in storage go forward and enough and eventually i will have more stuff in that unit than i do it in fact i probably have is in in terms of things that are just my possessions that are purely me and i'm not joint yeah i probably have more of my stuff there than i do in the house yeah pretty soon you'll just start sleeping there and then eating there

well i don't know if it was heated that's where you'll live it's where all the cool stuff is that's where you just go and play there like it's a playroom there is there is a lot there is a lot of podcast related paraphernalia there yeah yeah right well i tell you the one thing i have to really think about and this is this is probably something that is is worthy of more consideration like thoughtful consideration is who am i going to leave the spoons to i imagine that was that was a deliberate cough that was a deliberate cough man all right i actually have an idea i mean there's a sense by which i can see my daughter's going to court

to fight over them but to avoid anything messy like that i i actually wondered if i could itemize in my will that they be distributed one a piece to all the patron supporters man can you imagine the lawyer just looking down and going oh dear we're gonna see one of these man you don't you don't want to give the patrons an incentive to end your life prematurely man you're starting to insecurity is worth more to us dead than alive once they see that single force boon i really get a fear for your life and it's like but we're killing the golden

goose then the podcast will end and be like don't worry brady's got a whole list of backups ready to go i wonder if anyone's ever included patreon supporters in their will that's great isn't it if they have yeah i mean it's i mean it's thoughtful and it's nice and don't get me wrong i love the patreon supporters but i think maybe that's like the world of online has gone too far then. If you're overlooking your own family members, your own children. It's like that situation where the kids, you know, after the funeral sit down with a lawyer and find out that, like, a million dollars has been left to the cat.

You know, it's one of those sorts of situations. Patreon supporters are the cat. You know, it's one of those sorts of situations. Patreon supporters are your cat. Imagine that they all come along to the reading to see what they've been left. One by one. His fleet of Aston Martins has been left to viewer 456 on YouTube. Let's go. Speaking of which, it has been such a long time since we did an idea from a Patreon supporter. Yeah.

I feel like we should quickly do one. So let's do a quickie. Please. So here's an idea submitted by a Patreon supporter called Jason. He starts by saying, hello, Brady and Tim. My name is Jason. By the way, I've said it before. I'll say it again.

Jason's my favorite name in the world. I wish I was called Jason. I'm not. I was about to interrupt and point that out. That's right. It'll say it again. Jason's my favourite name in the world. I wish I was called Jason. I'm not. I was about to interrupt and point that out. That's right. It's your fantasy name. It's my fantasy name. One day, one day.

Jason says, I'm an American expat currently living in Turkey. I'm currently sitting on the porch of a villa on the Mediterranean coast. People who wonder why I live in Turkey usually have no conception of how beautiful it is here. Picture attached. My idea for a podcast comes from the good old days of talk radio. There used to be shows where people would call into experts in cars or gardens or home renovations and ask their questions. I think it would be fun to reverse it. I'd like to hear a podcast where experts who have seriously hard problems in their field call in to non-experts and explain their problem and ask for advice. It would obviously

not be so much about solving the problem, but learning about various fields and the current challenges in the field. And sometimes non-experts can give a perspective on a problem that people who are immersed in a field can't see. That's my idea. Thanks for the podcast. I think this is a fantastic idea, Tim. It is, yes. A podcast where experts come on and talk about things they can't solve, and then you have all the viewers submit their ideas about this problem. What a great idea. Oh, I have idea envy. That's brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. You are crowdsourcing in a way too, aren't you? Because if you ask enough people,

maybe someone's just going to have that idea you haven't thought of. And it's always the one where someone in the room says, oh, this might be a stupid question. I'm just a novice. And then they ask something and everyone goes, oh, that is a really great perspective. What a great question. What a great perspective.

You get the little girl who says, you know, just let the air out of the tyres to get the truck under the bridge. Those kind of moments. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, good idea. I have to say, just to pull up on one other detail as well, it sounds absolutely beautiful where Jason is. We do have the Grand Prix was in Istanbul last week, and I say it looks pretty incredible.

Have you ever been to Turkey? I have not. pretty incredible have you ever been to turkey i have not i do want to go to istanbul quite a lot but also i mean i think it's the coastal parts of turkey where all the brits go on holiday it's very got some really beautiful uh coastal places i would also love to go yeah beautiful well let's go together man let's go yeah let's go and sit and meet your fantasy man jason meet jason yeah and just see the sea breeze. It's obviously good for the mind. Ideas like that coming out.

This could be an idea retreat where we just went away and had good ideas. Well, Tim, I mean, you are an expert on theology and like Bible scholar stuff and all that. That's correct. Yes. Is there any problem or something you've got at the moment that you'd like to put to the audience? Like, is this something you can't solve? Or does sort of theology and sort of scholarliness of the Bible have its version of, like, the Riemann hypothesis or, you know, a cure to cancer or some big problem or question that everyone wishes they could solve? Like, you know, being able to read hieroglyphs and stuff like that? Or are most of the problems in your field more, you know,

of the mind and to do with opinions and, you know, ideas rather than a black or white answer? Well, there are different perspectives on things, that's for sure. Christian theology grows out of, you know, out of history, out of events and out of the biblical texts and pieces of um you know fragments of text but is there like is there a piece of paper like that no one can read because it's written in a strange language or like a missing page of a document that if you had that page it would you know answer lots of questions is there like a great is there some gold nugget waiting to be found or is it not like that there's a speculated document or documents called the q documents and that is like in the bible there are four gospels four tellings

of jesus's life yeah and the first one is quite short it's called the gospel of according to mark mark wrote it and it's considered it's the first one written and then you've got you know matthew and luke that were written later and they kind of have the stuff from mark but then they have other stuff too yeah and so the question is always particularly from matthew where did he get that stuff from his own memory or yeah does he get it from some other documents so there's always there's kind of like they're called q documents they're sort of do these documents exist are they other text other fragments so was there some extra source material that matthew was drawing on that we don't know about that's right that's right yeah so we don't

know that so that's but i'm not a biblical i'm not nowhere near a biblical scholar like at all but that's just one thing i know so there are lots of things we we don't know but i'm oh i like the sound of these q documents man do you know what We should say that there's a Q episode of the Unmade podcast that no one's ever heard, but it's really important and we should just allude to it all the time, the Q episode. The Q episode. There's like in-jokes in it. Just build up some hype.

You would understand this podcast so much more if you'd heard the Q episode. Yeah, we could start referring to, well, the point would be we start referring to in-jokes from the queue that we never reference where they come from. Imagine that. Just build up all this excitement and hype. And then, like, one day in a few years,

you just, like, say we're releasing the queue episode on Friday. And everyone's like, oh, my God. Here it is. Yes, yes. Like Prince's Black Album or something. Or Smile by the Beach Boys. It's, like, been there all along and we've never heard it and here it comes yes the cue episode anyway uh jason nailed the idea but that's not really i mean it's a great idea but it doesn't i like the idea more about opinions

you know because obviously no one's going to call in and say oh i just happen to have a copy of the cue documents here at home like or i've sold the Riemann hypothesis for you or something. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just going to pretend I know what the Riemann hypothesis is at this point in the podcast. I've been pretending for years and no one's called me on it yet. You've made YouTube clips on it.

I have. I've made complete videos about it and I probably couldn't explain it if I tried. It's to do with prime numbers oh yeah okay all right well at least i pretended to be interested in the q documents but you you asked me a specific question i didn't lead it there and i didn't and i didn't make a whole youtube video series about the books of the bible. That's right. You have no doubt heard of the Q documents before. I've actually seen them. You've seen them?

They're in storage with the Millennium Funk. Your wife's like, I don't want these laying around. All right. Well, man, if you do have them, if you could leave them to me in your will, that would be most appreciated. I'll do it. And I'll pass them on to those who will do good things with it. Cool.

All good for you. No secret words. Oh, heck. Oh. Oh, dear. I'm taking that as a yes. Now, just let me think back and see if they fit in. No, no, they're not anywhere.

No. No, it's just a failure. We won't do it. It's just a... Oh, let me tell you. Yeah. They're in the Q documents. They're in the Q episode.

They're in the Q episode. They were mentioned. Yeah. If you want to know what the secret words are for today's episode, you have to refer back to the Q episode.