The Unmade Podcast - 68: My Dad Was Dutch

Episode Date: December 8, 2020

Tim and Brady discuss illegal raves (with an interruption), Dutch Dads, Replaying 2020, a historic spoon of the week, wake-up calls, and a patron's idea about tea. Go to Storyblocks for stock video, pictures and audio at https://www.storyblocks.com/unmade Support us on Patreon for all sorts of goodies and opportunities - and to help us make the show - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/k9fh1b USEFUL LINKS Thanks Rob for your techno version of The Sofa Shop... check out more jingles here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRNeH_Kpl1ZgpeiNeJ-oiAQ Rave - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave The Quarter Pounder - https://www.mcdonalds.com/gb/en-gb/product/quarter-pounder-with-cheese.html Mrs Hein T-Shirts - https://teespring.com/milo-with-mrs-hein Or how about The Mug - https://teespring.com/milo-with-mrs-hein-mug The year 2020 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020 Pictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Traralgon Post Office - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traralgon_Post_Office_and_Court_House

How are you, my friend? My sunflower, my queen bee, how are you? What? That's nice. Words out of the way early. Nice. Move on. Can relax. Okay, I can just sit back and enjoy this now. I like the name Queen Bee for you. Bee? Queen Bee for you. Bee? Really? Queen Bee. Yeah.

You and Brady and Beyonce both lend themselves to the Queen Bee moniker. Thank you. That was something else, wasn't it? I feel like that's a bit too high energetic for me. High energy. I was a bit exhausted by it, man. I don't know if I can keep up anymore with this young people's techno music. I've seen you on the dance floor. You've the moves not for a long time man yeah that came from rob this is what rob wrote greetings from the united states idaho i do not know tall jeff personally but i want to thank you for the attention you gave my amazing state and our beautiful state seal

for the most part we are ignored until dinner dinner time when Americans remember their need for potatoes. I love that tall Jeff, one of our patrons and contributors, has now become like famous for being from Idaho. Rob continued. I am answering Brady's call for techno versions of the Sofa Shop jingle. I hope my humble submission will be worthy of your time. I'm an electrical engineer by day, but making electronic music is my hobby and I thoroughly enjoyed making this masterpiece.

This might just be the next massive hit at every rave around the world. Cheers, Rob. Well, I think he's done a good job. It sounds legit. Legit? Is legit still a word? Yeah.

It was lit. Is that what you say? It was. By the way. Yeah. He mentioned raves, and this brings me up to something else I wanted to bring up on the podcast. Obviously, we've been doing lockdown for a long time, and one of the things that seems to come up on the news all the time is people getting in trouble for having illegal raves.

Oh, really? It occurs to me I've never heard of a legal rave. You only seem to have illegal raves. Like, and, you know, you and I aren't the kind of guys that would normally go to an illegal rave. But this is half a podcast idea and half an unmade podcast idea. I thought it would be really cool for us to organise an unmade podcast, a legal rave. But the thing is, we just always can be organising it and planning

it and talking about it and hyping it up, but never actually do it. Yeah, yeah. I think it's time for us to formally announce the unmade podcast, a legal rave that will be happening next year. Everyone's invited. Tickets will be, how much will tickets be for our Illegal Rave? What sounds like a good price for an Illegal Rave ticket? Oh, two ecstasy pills. Two ecstasy pills. You're showing our age.

Two E's and whiz. We'll be eating lots of drugs at our illegal rave. We were always more into quarter pounders than... That's one big ecstasy pill. The feeling of ecstasy from a quarter pounder is surely better than anything you get from something dodgy like that. You know how these ecstasy pills and illegal drugs always have, like, they always seem to have some name. Like, there's, like, a new variant on the market

and it always has a name, which comes into the news when there's a bad batch. Do you think Quarter Pounder would be a good name for an ecstasy pill? Hey, man, got a Quarter pounder i'll be into it i think it's a sort of it's it's it's it's whatever the opposite of an ecstasy pill is you know a downer like it just slows you down because you're not dancing after you've had one of those. That's for sure. Oh, no.

That's right. You're not getting the issue. I think it's cute that you suggested we'd have only one. That's right. There you are. So, when we have our illegal rave next year. Which is going to be, yeah, like in a warehouse somewhere or in, you know, a car park in the middle of the night and deep dark. Like, you know, down back alleys

into a secret, massive hidden area. Definitely a warehouse. Definitely the Unmade Podcast warehouse. And I think, like, will Rob's Sofa Shop Jingle Play just then be the opening song of the night or, like, the finale? Well, that's a good point. I think we don't do any of the acapella or sort of hoedown country. Some of the other versions I think would go down really well.

After a few quarter pounders, maybe, yeah. Maybe, yeah. So anyway, stay tuned for more details about the Unmode podcast, Illegal Rave, as they come to light. All we know so far is it's happening in 2021. Admission is two quarter pounder ecstasy pills. And it's going to be held in a warehouse. Maybe Queen Bee can be your DJ name.

What? Queen Bee up on the decks, up in his hive. I've got like a big hive with decks all around me. his hive i've got like a big hive with decks all around me holding up your headphone to one ear going yep yep giving everyone the thumbs up looking at all my drones on the dance floor all bringing me my royal jelly oh man that sounds i'm excited about that. I'm also exhausted by the thought, but excited about it.

Oh, no, because you and I are running it, we have all the control, so it can all be finished by like 9 o'clock. Oh, nice. Excellent. Yes. Then you can go home and watch the Grand Prix. Everyone's invited back to mind for the Grand Prix For After Party

So what's going to make it illegal? The fact that we've got no approval for it This is because they were illegal back before COVID Oh yeah man, we're not going to get planning approval That's how hardcore we are Man There will be, what else will be illegal? Everyone will be parked on double yellow lines outside.

Right. Yeah. Some of your tracks will be pretty illegal, like underground illegal remixes of hardcore dance tracks. There will be copyrighted music being played. Also, I think we may be the first two men talking podcast to hold their own illegal rave. Do you reckon? Yeah. Do you think there could be any police listening to this episode, though? That could really bring us unstuck. I hope no one

working for law enforcement listens to this. Maybe this episode just goes out on our illegal pirate radio stations instead of on the regular. Our illegal feed. Yeah. on our illegal pirate radio stations instead of on the regular facilities. Our illegal feed. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The cops have to sort of, you know, track and go undercover

to get details about to sort of break wide open going, you shouldn't be playing that music to these kids at these times, you know, that sort of thing. I love it. I love it. I want to think of more, like, illegal things we can do that are like, you know, like you can bring your dogs and not pick up after them. There'd be a lot of jaywalking, like walking across the dance floor

instead of going around the outside. Oh, yeah. I like that. I like that. You can stand on the wrong side of the escalator when you're arriving. Mad, bad and dangerous to know. That's what we are, man. Hang on, man.

Hang on. Sorry, just, man, just before you go into that, the lovely old guy over the roads just called me, so I just need to. The policeman? The retired policeman? Yes, yes, yes. He heard about the illegal rave already. He's got it.

Tim's office at the church is across the road from a retired policeman who always calls when the lights are on late at night. Sorry to disturb you at this hour of the night, but I saw the lights on over there and I thought I'd just perhaps touch base. Are you burning the midnight oil? Oh, yeah, I... You sometimes make a few overseas calls, I think, do you?

That's right. Don't tell him about the rave! If you weren't... If you had a few minutes before you headed for home tonight, I'd perhaps pop over and just have a quick chat. Yeah, no, that sounds good. He's onto it.

He's all over it. He knows about the rave. The podcast. So I'm actually recording that for the next hour or so. But maybe I'll send you a text message. Or if your light's still on, should I come and say a quick g'day? Okay. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll give you a text message and Or if your light's still on, should I come and say a quick g'day? Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I'll give you a text message and let you know. That'd be great. Tim's playing it so cool right now. Just doing a bit of work and not organising any raves or anything. No. No, no, no. You're finishing late and you don't want to bother.

It's nothing. Nothing. You're just popping in and seeing you in the morning. If that's needed, you're better. That's probably better. Late morning, tomorrow morning, actually. What if I wander over about 11 o'clock or thereabouts? Oh, that's perfect.

Yep, 1100. No worries. Good night. See you tomorrow, Mr. East. Nothing, nothing. It's just a... That'd be great. I'll look forward to it.

Okay. See you later. Bye. Bye-bye. He's on to us. He's on to us. 11 a.m. tomorrow morning, I'm going to get raped over the coals Get your story straight man

I love that as soon as we started Even talking about illegal activities The policeman coals Like you I'm not organising an illegal rape or anything I just wanted to be very clear about that, just to put him off the scent. 11am tomorrow morning,

I'm going to be put in a dark room with a swinging light bulb and a very intimidating conversation is going to occur, I can tell. There's no way I'm setting foot back in Australia now. No, you run for it, man. Stay over there. Just a very small piece of housekeeping. Those of you who listened to our last episode will have been introduced to the wonders of Tim's mum, Mrs. Hine. Yep.

In our wholesome... How was she after the big podcast debut, by the way? Oh, look, she was delighted. I mean, really, it's really interesting to be there at the moment when someone becomes a worldwide celebrity. You know what I mean? Their breakthrough. Years of trying to break through as a cultural influencer, finally.

Did she turn up at church on Sunday with a bit of a swagger? Well, she parked her limo a little bit closer to the door than she normally would and made her way through the paparazzi waiting outside malvin uniting that's right i heard this authoritarian voice i want a clear line to the door everyone step back and she was given a few congratulatory um uh pats on the back and and so forth forth from people in the church who had listened. She loved it. She absolutely loved it.

Yeah. Brilliant. She was great. And for those of you who have been caught up in the hype around Mrs. Hine, we have special T-shirts available. Yeah. And mugs. And mugs.

Milo with Mrs. Hine T-shirts and mugs. I'll put some links in the usual secret places. That is the notes for the episode. So check it out. Podcast ideas. Before we go into podcast ideas, Tim, can I throw one other quick podcast idea out there that I had on the drive home today?

Go for it. How about a podcast called My Dad Was Dutch and every guest has to have had a dad who was Dutch and talk about that in some way. So I realise that's a limitation I'm putting on the potential guest list, but I just think that could work. Not really. I'm sure there are millions of people with parents who are Dutch. It'd be huge in the Netherlands.

Yeah. So this is to talk about the interesting characteristics of their father. No, not necessarily. I mean, hopefully, though, you would talk about your dad and your dad's Dutchness and how that influenced your life. Maybe people who never knew their dad would be on the show or for whom their father being Dutch was not a big thing. But that's just the limitation I'm putting on the guest list.

I just thought I'd put that idea out there. Wow, that's an interesting idea. I have to say, you know, I've been clearing out some stuff. And yesterday, I cleared out even more of some old Dutchie sort of stuff. And a couple of old clogs went in the rubbish. And I have to say, it was pretty heartbreaking to see these clogs go. I kept a few nice ones that have been with us a while. But it's, geez, it was hard to let them go. I was about to praise you for having the fortitude to finally throw some stuff away but then you then it turns out you've

kept a few pairs of clogs not just one i kept a few like how many did you have that keeping a few is like you know how people have those sort of a wall like a big rack on their wall with all the Nike Air Jordans that were ever made. It's a bit like that. Except they're clogs. Well, how come Nike doesn't do like air clogs? Because I tell you, if there's ever a shoe in history that needs a little bit more cushioning with some air, it's a pair of clogs. Air clogs. Well, now that I have this relationship with Michael Jordan, maybe I can get that moving.

Maybe you should. How huge would it be in Holland to have air clogs? Air clogs. They could pump them up. That's great. Australia should have air Uggs. Air Uggs. Do people overseas know what Ugg boots are,

or are they distinctly Australian? No. Well, they're huge in the UK. Oh, are they? My wife's got several pairs. well they're huge in the uk oh are they my wife's got several pairs oh wow i kept one pair of clogs um that that i kept one pair i kept one pair that were that have a bit of decorative stuff on them they used to hang on my wall as a kid and i thought well i can't get rid of all the clogs i'll keep those because the kids might want them i don't think they will want them but anyway it was my way of getting rid of several to keep one but yeah it's it feels strange to throw them away but i'll tell you what man when you die the first thing

your kids are going to have to do is one awesome trip to the tip well not anymore it's all gone i did 12 tubs of stuff went out yesterday wow it was um transformative did you ever see your dad wearing clogs like other than like fancy dress like Did you ever see your dad wearing clogs, like, other than, like, fancy dress? Like, have you ever seen them worn, like, just, you know, to go, you know, buy fish and chips? Oh, no, he wore them in the garden all the time, through my whole life. Yeah? Yeah, instead of gumboots. Yeah, like, where we'd have wellingtons or gumboots, you know, or boots. He wore the clogs in the garden. Yeah, that's what he wore every day. I never saw that once. I never saw your dad wear clogs.

Oh, right. Maybe when he was a bit younger and he was doing like a veggie patch sort of garden. When I picture it, I picture Terrell. And he got a bit old in the end. It was just sort of a few flowers. But he was out there, you know, when he was really digging up potatoes and all that sort of stuff when I was a bit younger. Awesome. Yeah.

Awesome. It's a good look. They look great. Yeah. Your dad could pull it off too. Well, because he's Dutch. Was your dad Dutch? Next week on My Dad Was Dutch.

My dad was Dutch. It's like, how loud could he yell? Well, my dad got up to 400 decibels. Really? They should have that. You know how they always have that decibel list when things are dangerous and, like, standing next to a jumbo jet engine is always top of that list? Yeah.

They should have talking to Tim's dad the next one up from that. What would be awesome is to have something that he yelled so often which is him calling out to the kitchen for mum to make a milo and he he would it would be so loud and yeah are we getting a milo or what like the cracker tower explosion? That's right, yeah. It's like a shotgun going off down the street. It's like calling in for a cup of tea or Milo. All right, let's get into normal ideas for a podcast, which is what we sometimes do here on the show.

It is kind of our reason for being. You're going to go first today? I've been throwing all sorts of stuff out there with my illegal raves and Dutch dads. Oh, you have, yes, yes. No, we've finally cleared all that sort of out of the way. We can get down to the serious ideas. Look, mine's a bit meta, actually.

The name of my podcast idea is 2020. Now, the reason for that is I wonder, you know, everyone's been talking about 2020 with anticipation over the years, you know, like a vision with 2020. It's just a nice sort of marker in the sand because it sounds so nice and rounded and so forth. Nice alliteration. Our 2020 vision for this company is, you know, and it's got that lovely clear-sightedness illusion too. Then we get here and 2020 has been a bit of a mess, right? No one ever expected a global pandemic. But there's all sorts of other things as well, like a US presidential election that's been totally unusual with an unusual sort of president anyway. And it comes off the back of brexit and it's been

just a strange and peculiar year yes and so i was wondering but what everyone's like we can't wait we're never going to forget 2020 happy to leave this behind but right? So what if we, as humanity, get to the end of 2020 and I Got You Babe comes on and we start back at January 1 and we have to do it all over again? In fact, we have to keep doing 2020 until we get it right, like over and over and over and over again. What's your podcast idea i'm i'm getting it too i'm getting to it okay so you know 2020 is nearly over man

2020 is just having to listen to tim describe this idea over and over again just when it couldn't get any worse i thought coronavirus was tough you should hear this idea my my my my podcast idea is is an idea where we go from january 1st next year we go day by day we have a podcast a day that goes through all of next year and you get a different person on each time to talk about, firstly, what they were doing on this day in 2020. They go back to their diary and all that kind of stuff. Okay.

And if they would do anything different. They also reflect on the year as a whole. What was the thing they regret the most? What one thing would they change about the year? What was actually the silver lining for the year? What was the greatest thing? So basically we continue on, but people live through 2020. It's spending all of 2021 reflecting and looking back at what 2020 was like for them.

That's right. Yeah, yeah. But doing a deep dive and people thinking about. So with 2020 hindsight, they're going back and saying yeah particularly the regrets what would i like if they were to live 2020 over and they had a run at it again and again and again like in groundhog day yeah you know what bit of 2020 would they want to perfect what would they want to get right yeah but that's not bad not bad that's my idea to take podcast idea, it's a good idea now that I kind of have my head around it, to take it a bit further, Tim, and think about it a bit differently.

What about a podcast called Last Year, and each podcast for that year's podcast is always looking back at the year before. So in 2022, you're always looking back at 2021 What I was doing this week last year What I learnt last year That's true Obviously 2021's episode looking back at 2020 is going to be a big one Because 2020 was such a weird year But I was thinking what do you do at the end of the year with this podcast?

You do it again Well, that's true Yeah, yeah, you could keep it running over Yep, this time last year I was X And then this is what's happened and this is what i regret this is what i'd change okay this is what is different yep do you keep a thorough enough diary to be able to do this if you were a guest on the show would you be able to look back at your diary and have a really good recollection of what you were

doing in any given week i do i. I have a pretty full diary. So I can, like in terms of work appointments, so there'd be enough of that going, oh, yeah, okay, so I had that meeting and this meeting and all that kind of stuff. You could also work out a few other things around the date and time. Oh, that's the time when we had that dinner and whatnot. But most things are locked in for me like that, so I could go off it. Emails would be another way of tracking that as

well going to last year's what emails were i was i sending on that day and around the case i was at work and i use my photo album for that oh yeah yeah yeah i look at my pictures and the dates on my pictures to figure out where i was and what i was doing that's probably even better than the emails that's right yeah yeah that's i was flicking through photos the other night looking at old photos and i'm always astonished by the dates things i thought were just a year ago or three years ago and things that are eight years ago i thought were five you know it's like gosh that's it's very our memory is very imperfect well mine is 2020 has obviously been a year of many low lights what was your highlight of 2020 oh i are I probably, probably, I don't know, moving.

You know, did I mention that we moved house? My dad being Dutch. I cannot believe that you didn't name me coming to Australia. Look, see, you keep interrupting tonight before I get to what I wanted to say. I was about to say, you know, moving and you coming to visit. That's what I was going to say. Look, it's a hard, the second half of the year had some real highlights because we sold the house, we moved into a new house, you came to visit.

We got Brooklyn, our new puppy. So that was exciting as well. So Brady and Brooklyn, they were probably the two highlights. I'll take that. If I was to ask your lovely daughters, would they say Brady coming to visit or getting the dog? Oh, those two things. They were very excited to meet you because it had been quite a few years since you'd been here and they were young and couldn't quite remember you.

And so, yeah, no, they were very excited. But I think, I think Brooklyn may just edge you out there. Yeah, I can't, I mean, I can't compete. I can't compete with fluffiness of that magnitude. No. But look, you know, a few more visits, you know, you could sort of. Yeah. All right.

Yep. Good idea. Not the best, not your best idea presentation of the year. It was a great presentation. I think you kind of went for the meandering intro. But I liked it. I liked it. What were you doing this time last year? December. Okay,

let me look at my... I'll do it too. Let me look at my pictures. I was in the Maldives. Half your luck. Having an amazing holiday. Oh yeah, these pictures are making me very sad. There I am on a giant golden swan in the water i was and i'm flicking through you too came to town saw you too late last year there's a few nice photos of guitar i was reading a book a friend's book was launched i'm just flicking through oh i'm in harry potter world as well with my nephew. I'm here at the Elton John. I've got Elton John concerts, sort of his farewell tour in the Botanic Park outdoors.

I reached Pi million subscribers on Numberphile. Oh, right. Okay. Numberphile subscribers were the digits of Pi, so 3,141,592 subscribers. Big milestone. Nice work. 2019 was much better than 2020.

Just based on December. December 2019 was better than all of 2020. Anyway, there we go. There we go. So, what's your podcast called? It's called 2020, although it's made in 2021. Yeah. All right.

Okay. Nice. I'll let you have that one. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, man. Good idea. Good idea.

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So it's that time. Oh, oh. Spilled on the wig. God, I love that jingle. It's fantastic. God, I love that jingle. It's fantastic. It really is. That's probably that jingle.

That's my proudest moment of 2020. That's my favourite moment. And you had nothing to do with it. No, no, I just enjoy it. Yeah, that's right. So what spoon have you got for us? Well, Brady, today we're going for something very much close to home you know when you go to see a concert and you hear the greatest hits and the big hits and all that and then they play that one song that's just your song yeah well the spoon i've

got here it's just so close to home i just love love it. This is a spoon of Tarelgan. We've talked about different places around Victoria that my parents have visited and that we've gone on holidays and a few places around the world. But let me tell you, Brady, I was born in Tarelgan in Victoria, and this spoon is from Tarelgan. And I think it's actually a very early spoon looking at its design. Let me describe it to you. Up the top, it's got a photo, just a straight photo of Tarelgan, Victoria.

And on the photo is, oh, the photo itself is of the Tarelgan post office. Oh. I'll come back to that in just a moment. Yeah. It's nicely framed in sort of an antique sort of style. Down the stem, it's got a little bit of work. It's probably smaller than your normal tourist spoon. Some of the giant sort of tourist spoons you get these days,

this is a little bit more of a humble sort of look. Humble spoon? It is a humble spoon, yeah. Is it silver or pewter? It looks a little bit pewtery in the pictures you've sent me, but admittedly the terrible pictures you've sent me, they're vintage Tim pictures. Don't take them with a box brownie or whatever you take your pictures with.

That's actually a sketch I've sent Tim. With crayon. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right about the pewter. And it's got a shell-like scoopy bit. Nice. Nice bowl. I can't quite read what it says.

Oh, Sonic Products. So there you go. It's made by a company called Sonic. Probably a different company than the one that produced Sonic the Hedgehog. Possibly. Is that stamped into the metal, it it is yes on the back yeah i've just seen that okay sonic products all right sonic products yep detracts a little bit from the oldie worldie look of the spoon doesn't it yeah the word sonic i don't think is is

should you say ye oldie sonic products that would have been better. Yeah, exactly. It would have been a little bit more authentic. All right. So a spoon from your hometown. So for once, there's no kind of debate as to where or how your dad may have acquired this one. No, but I think looking at its age, I think it may be one of the early ones he bought. And also just looking at the post office too. Now, this post office means a lot. When I think of Tarelgon, I think of this

post office for a couple of reasons. One is it's in the main sort of square. So this is kind of, like many post offices, it marks the heart of the city or the town, but especially so in Tarelgon because there's not much else. But there's the skate ramp, there's my primary school, But there's the skate ramp, there's my primary school, and then there's this. But it's also where Dad worked and where he had his first big heart attack. So Dad worked in the post office there, and he had a massive heart attack, which meant that he had to retire.

So it's always got a bit of a legendary status. The other place that should be marked as the heart of Terrelgan, of course, is the Terarelgon Hospital. Not just because I was born there, but that's where Dad had several of his other heart attacks a little bit later on in the 1980s. Has your dad got a spoon for every place he had a heart attack? No, I don't have that many spoons. Your dad kept the spoon industry going for years just with his heart attack.

He did. He did. He did. It's like... Did the fact your dad survived so many heart attacks make you less scared of heart attacks? It made me more familiar with them. You know how there's some illnesses you don't know anything about? But I know all about heart attacks and, you know, what the symptoms are and when you can see them being experienced and how they feel and whatnot. you know as a kid you know a little bit about some things and i knew

about heart attacks but i didn't know much about you know other diseases i guess i remember dad once describing it as being like an elephant sitting on his chest that's how he described the feeling of having a heart attack which um i don't know if he literally had, you know, compared the two, like had an elephant sit on his chest and then went, oh, yep, nope, it's about right. I imagine a massive elephant sitting in your dad's chest and going, this is just like a heart attack. Can I also propose something else here? Yeah.

If this is one of the older spoons in the collection and it's from Turargan where your dad was a long time ago, could this be the Genesis spoon? Could this be the spoon that started it all? Wow, that's a really interesting thought. I wonder if they can be carbon dated or something or tested somehow. Like this, like some, yeah. I wonder if it was at the very bottom of the plastic container that I keep them in, but that doesn't mean much because they've moved from

container to container over the years. I don't think that's going to pass their scientific rigour. Interesting thought though, the Genesis spoon. It's a nice spoon. I like that it's kind of old school. It doesn't look exactly like the others, the square top. I'll do a bit of homework with it. I'll follow up with Mrs. Hine. We'll go and have a Milo and I'll ask Mum. I'll keep it unbiased. I'll actually say, do you remember the very first spoon that either you bought with Dad or that Dad had?

And just see if she can remember. You know, was there some, did he have two or three or five or was there one, the spoon that started it all? This could be the grain of sand around which the pearl was formed. Indeed. Indeed. Yeah. All right.

As usual, there'll be a link in the notes so you can go and look at a picture of this spoon and every other spoon from the Hein family collection that has been featured on Spoon of the Week. And Tim, if you want to do the honours and give the wheel a spin. Here we go. And now the wheel is spinning after Tim gave it a big yak. Insert Storyblocks audio of wheel near. And so now we're going to find out what Patreon supporter is going to be sent an unmade podcast souvenir spoon when they are finally produced and here in my office. And that day is fast approaching, I can tell you people.

This is absolutely true. This is not, I promise I'm not rigging the deck, but our winner of the spoon this week is from the Netherlands. No. It is. Really? Yes, it is Pascal from the Netherlands, one of our Patreon supporters. Wow.

Pascal, you are the winner. And I believe that is actually our second winner from the Netherlands, funnily enough. So there we go. An unmade podcast spoon off to the Netherlands. Well done, Pascal. And presumably, Pascal could have been a guest on your podcast, My Father is Dutch, or My Dutch Father, is that what it's called? Yeah, My Dad was Dutch, or something like that. Yes.

Well, I don't know. I don't know. I can't speak for Pascal. All I know is that Pascal's... I only know that Pascal's mailing address is in the Netherlands. That's all I know. Oh, so he could be located there for tax purposes. Is that what you're saying?

It's very possible. He could just be there on a clog buying holiday for all I know. I mean, biologically, there must be a Pascal senior, but we just don't, we can't confirm whether he is Dutch. No, no, exactly. All right. So, podcast idea from me. Yeah, you got something, man.

Yeah. So, I'll tell you. Yeah, you got something, man. Yeah. So, I'll tell you where my idea came from because I know you like a long meandering introduction to a podcast idea. My podcast idea has come from watching The West Wing because I've been watching a lot of West Wing lately. But don't worry, the podcast is not West Wing related. But one thing I noticed that happens a lot in that show is wake-up calls. There'll be some drama happening in China, and the administration gets to a point where they say, all right, we've got to wake up the president. And they always have that classic shot in the West Wing of the phone ringing next to the president's bed and him picking it up going, oh, hello, and making some joke when he's half asleep. So my podcast idea is called Wake Up Cole.

This is a podcast where you have a different guest each week and it's arranged that the way the interview starts is you phone that person early in the morning and wake them up on the phone and just start the interview then. So, each interview with your guest is their first 20 minutes awake for the day. Yeah, that's good. So, they're literally in bed. They're literally in bed. That's a good idea.

And, yeah, they've just got to go. Just go. Is it a surprise? Do they know it's coming? I mean, for practical reasons, obviously, if you've, you know, see, if you've got Tom Hanks to agree to be on wake-up call, you can't just like, you know, there has to be some arranging, but it would probably be said, what time do you wake up this week, you know?

Yeah. And we'll call you one of the days this week on this number and the interview will start. So, they'll know it's coming. Yeah. But they have to have been asleep when the phone rang. You have to have getting them in that wake up zone. What are you like in those first 20 minutes? If I was to wake you up tomorrow morning, your phone rings, you pick up, it's me.

What would our conversation be like? Oh, yeah, I'm all go. I just, I awake and it's like a shot of adrenaline. I put my feet on the floor and I'm up and I could do anything. I'm very good in the morning. I mean, I get a coffee and I just love it. Much better than at night time. At night time, I kind of switch off.

So, what happens when you first wake up? You don't just like go and pick up your phone and start looking at Instagram and stare at the ceiling. No, I can't. After I wake, which these days is Brooklyn, right? So, Brooklyn comes up and he puts his paw on my hand and, you know, that's it. Or he's, you know, sniffing around my face or something like that. So, that's how I wake up every morning now. Yeah.

And generally, I push him away and then, you know, and then I go, around my face or something like that so that's how i wake up every morning now yeah and generally i push him away and then you know and then i'm and then i go i can't stand here like so once i'm awake in the morning i can't stay in bed i've got to get up so i'm up straight away so i push him around stand straight up reach over put my glasses on and walk out flick the kettle on and go and hop in the shower straight away so i take my glasses off again on and go and hop in the shower straight away. So I take my glasses off again and then hop in the shower straight away. I don't want to do anything else until I've had a shower. Wow, you have a shower that soon? Yeah, like the first thing.

Have you always been like that? No, I think I slept in a bit as a kid because I remember, you know, needing to wake up, you know, sorts of early like teenage years and stuff in in high school I used to get up very early and watch a bit of tv and have breakfast and then go off to school really early and read the paper but I think after that for a while those sort of early young adult years when we'll drive around I'd sleep in a fair bit because we're out so late but yeah since i don't know marriage kids but since i've been sensibly having a job and stuff like that i love the mornings i just love them i feel energetic and alive and i want to get heaps of stuff done and then i you know sort of fade during the day

and then finally right at the end of the day when i've got nothing left i record a podcast this explains a lot about the unmade podcast we're getting timothy's absolute worst just squeezing the last little bit of attention out of me that's right what would you be like if i if i called i know mr grumpy in the morning i'm the exact opposite i'm the exact opposite i'm not only do i like you know am i a bit grouchy and not liking the morning but my brain is nowhere near as as sharp and as good for example my wife and I sometimes do the crossword and the paper together. And we usually do that in the evening, sometimes at dinner time. And I'm pretty good.

I'm pretty helpful. Get lots of answers right. Occasionally, if we do it in the morning, useless. It's noticeable how much worse I am. Like, I just have nothing. I can get nothing right. I've got no ideas. That's one of the ways I can measure it.

There aren't many other things. But morning for me is laying in bed, maybe falling asleep again a couple of times, eventually getting up and going down and having some breakfast, then maybe coming up to my computer for an hour and checking some emails and thinking about some work, thinking about, do I need a shower? Do I need to get dressed at some point? Is there an imperative that requires me to get dressed? If there is, I'll have a shower and get dressed. But it's not impossible to stay in my pyjamas until after lunch.

This is the sign that you work for yourself, right? And I know you work hard and you've worked into the evening and all that, but you do, your time is your own. So, you don't have to, you know what I mean? Get to work, work get to a meeting get to traffic in the same way i know you do on some days as well but it's not no hardly ever man let's be honest i know you're being nice hardly ever yeah it's it's and you don't you know you know the boot camp with you know kids and all that kind of stuff you know you've just got to get i i have to say there's another factor here and this is another reason why you need to drink coffee you need coffee this is i've said this before you're not made to function without coffee that's that's why you're underperforming in the first third of the day i don't like it like i want to change it like i would

i like and i am just lately i've been trying to get up you know a little bit earlier but also i'm trying to impose a rule on myself that i'm not allowed to come up to my office and turn on my computer until i've had a shower and i'm dressed because i think that's like just a healthier way to live so i am trying to change that and i long to change it and occasionally particularly when i've been traveling and my body clocks off and I'll wake up at like six in the morning and I'll come up to my office and do like three solid hours work, say, until nine. And then I'll go downstairs and have breakfast and that. And then I'll be like, this is amazing. I'm having breakfast and I've already got three hours of work done.

That is a wonderful feeling. And you feel like you've beaten the day, you know, you're a real winner. So, I do understand the sensation and like when you talk about enjoying the mornings and like getting stuff done in the morning, I do appreciate it. Like it's not foreign to me, but it's just not something I do and like doing. And very often towards the evening, I do, like say my wife's coming home in the evening, because that's normally when I stop working. Sometimes I'll start doing some work and feel, oh my God, I'm really on a roll now. I want to keep working for hours. I'm really,

that's when I feel like I could just keep working and things are going great. And I kind of have to stop because, you know, my wife comes home and it's time for dinner and to, you know, spend time together. And I feel like, oh, I could have, this is when i could have really hit my straps so i do feel like like for some reason the night is when and when i'm alone like you know if she's away or something i will work until midnight one o'clock like really southerly and get really good work done from about you know eight or nine pm until midnight that's a really good work time for me. I'm really productive and really pushed through. So I do feel like, like some people say there are morning people

and night people and other people say it's like learned behaviour and that. But I really believe, like, I naturally am nocturnal. Well, you know, I'm reading Obama's memoir at the moment and he's exactly the same as you. He describes himself exactly the same. He really struggles at the moment. And he's exactly the same as you. He describes himself exactly the same. He's, he really, he struggles in the morning. I mean, he still gets up, but he, you know, on the West Wing, the president's up at like six or something, but he's up at seven, which is relatively, you know, normal late and gets going slowly. But then he's a real night owl.

And after the day's finished, he'll go and do all these other work and letters in his home office and then watch something and then go to bed, you know, like very late, like one or two or something like that. He says he just is naturally way more productive after dinner and in that time and later in the day than he is in the morning. Well, do you like my Wake Up Call podcast? Would you listen to that? Would you like to hear Tom Hanks at six in the morning being interviewed?

It is. I like the idea. It's a bit, it is, I like the idea. It's a bit hit and miss, isn't it? Some of them might just be, what, what? Who is it? You know, it might take a couple of goes. The idea that they're in bed in their pyjamas is quite nice though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

That is, there's something open and vulnerable about it. They might tell the truth, you know what I mean? Like they're not all prepared, so they might go, oh, no, yesterday was awful or something. Or they might just drone on about the dream that they had last night. Yeah. That would be cool if you got them, what were you just dreaming while you can still remember it?

Yeah, that's right. I dreamt I was Tom Hanks. I was a big movie star. It's like, well, hang on, you know, remember it? Yeah, that's right. I dreamt I was Tom Hanks. I was a big movie star. It's like, well, hang on. You know, Mr. Hanks, that is you. Oh, yeah. Wow. All right.

Cool, cool idea. Wake up call. Stay tuned. Nice work. Coming soon. Quick idea from a Patreon supporter. Go to patreon.com slash unmade FM to become one of our Patreon supporters. It gets you in all sorts of goodies and behind the scenes.

And you can also send us your ideas. And one of our supporters is Didric. Hello, Tim and Brady. My name is Didric. And I've been a listener of the podcast since the very first episode. And a fan ever since the Groundhog Day idea very nearly made me die from laughter on a regular school day. Nearly died. Whoa, whoa.

Sorry, man. Would we be in trouble if someone died listening to the podcast? Gosh. That'd be serious. We might need some insurance for that. I didn't even think about that. You joke about rubbish ideas and parochial subject matters, but your podcast really does help people get through their days

and I'd like to thank you for that on their behalf. What's that about rubbish ideas? What? Who's rubbish ideas? Rubbish ideas? I don't know what episode you've been listening to, did you? You shouldn't take that, man. He's talking about you there.

I'm assuming he wrote this during your slump. As someone who ended up spending many late nights assembling repetitive robot parts, I may well have gone insane from boredom if not for your help. And that's all he says about these robot parts, by the way. So that's just, he's just left that hanging. Yeah, right. What's he doing late at night assembling robots? Gosh, is he building an army?

I don't know. Oh, my gosh. Is he building an army? I don't know. He doesn't say. He does say, I'm currently 19 and studying technical physics in Sweden, although I'm currently taking a break from engineering stuff and exploring some less taxing subjects. As someone who listens to media almost constantly, I often have the Unmade podcast running in the background, regardless of what I'm doing.

It's a constant companion for me, whether I'm cooking, taking a nightly walk, climbing a tree, sitting on the bus, doing laundry, or trying to sleep. Recently, I've even taken to listening along while I'm drinking tea, which brings me to my podcast idea. Are you ready, Tim? Here comes the idea. I'm ready. Since about a year back, I made the

decision that I would get as into tea as I could manage. And so over the course of my tea journey, I have gradually been switching from flavoured tea bags to roasted oolongs and gaiwans. I don't know if I pronounced them correctly. Gosh. Although as my love of tea grew, I also grew increasingly frustrated at the severe lack of tea-related podcasts available, especially ones of the two dudes talking variety. Just like the Unmade podcast is primarily two guys talking and mainly uses the podcast ideas as the starting point to provide structure, the tea podcast would to some extent be about tea, but primarily centered around the rapport and chemistry of the hosts. Every episode would start with the host describing what tea they are going to drink, as well

as how they plan to brew it, brewing vessel, water temperature, leaf to water ratio, etc. They would describe the aroma and taste, but after that, they would simply have a normal conversation. They could perhaps review the teas, but to some extent, I feel like that would detract from the relaxed atmosphere of simply enjoying tea and good company. As for a name, a community I'm part of came up with a few suggestions. Most of them were puns, as hey-char pronounced like hey-char meaning black tea. I don't know if I said any of that right. Talkative and confessions of a hong-char hoarder. Hong-char meaning red tea, which is actually black tea.

It's confusing. In emergency, though, simply tea chat would suffice. I should probably stop rambling before this message grows way too large. Thank you once again for creating this wonderful podcast. Kind regards, Diedrich. P.S. to the Danish listener who featured many episodes ago, I would like to return his remark in kind. I do not like Danes, said with as much brotherly love as I can muster.

So he's just obviously got a chip on his shoulder about some old Danish-Swedish rivalry there at the end. But anyway, there it is, Didrik. Thank you for that very long Tim-like suggestion, complete with rubbish names. So it really was Tim-like. Well, let me tell you, this is a fine idea. I really got really into the complex description there. There you go.

Basically, a tea podcast is how I would have described it. Yes, a tea cast. Tea cast. How briefly? Tea cast. Tea cast is a good name. Yeah. There we go.

I'd call it just like the tea bag or something, you know. Do you drink tea? Yes, I do because my wife is a very large consumer of tea. So while I do, I can't have Milo every time. So sometimes if I'm feeling healthy, I'll have a tea instead. She's like, do you want a hot drink? And I'll be like, I'll have a Milo. No, no, actually, I'll also have a tea.

That's like my concession to health. Like a little grown up moment. Like, oh no. Yeah. Between Milos I'll have a grown up tea to show I'm a bit sophisticated. Watching my figure I'll go for a tea. Do you want sugar? No, no, no sugar. No sugar. Just straight tea like a grown up. Oh, nice. Do you drink a lot of tea? I don't drink a lot, no. I might have one a day, one every couple of days maybe, yeah.

Yeah. I like a cup of tea just to break up the coffees for me, otherwise I drink too much coffee. But I do like a cup of tea for sure. I do like Diedrich's idea. I think a tea podcast is nice because as we showed with the previous episode, the wholesome episode with your mum

making the milos, there is something nice about listening to the ritual of people preparing their drinks as well. Yes, yes. I like that sort of ritual start and a little bit of natural sound, a little bit of foley work at the start with the making of the tea, and then like Diedrich says, then just having a chat over tea, tea you know what better time is there for having a chat than over

a couple of cups of tea oh absolutely one of the greatest sounds in the world i've heard it once said and i agree is the sound of a cup just finding its perfect place on the saucer like do you have a favorite brand or type of tea or flavour? No, I'm not fussy. I'll have just whatever's on the go. We have a lot of decaffeinated tea because my wife doesn't have caffeine. So usually these days I usually drink decaffeinated tea just to horrify you even more that I'm not even getting my caffeine through tea. No, gosh. Yeah.

So, but I like it just for the warmth and that. I do like sugar in my tea, but like I said, if I'm having tea, I've already decided I'm on a health kick for that minute, so I usually won't have the sugar. Right. You just do a few sit-ups and down your tea. Nice. I like, there's a tea company in Australia called Tea Two,

and they do a tea called Melbourne Breakfast, and I do like that a lot. Yeah. Apart from that, I'll just have what's a Bushels which is a very sort of Australian brand of tea yeah is there any money changing hands behind the scenes here Tim or are you actually just doing real endorsements or uh hang on my agent's just telling me so it wasn't Bushels it was Lipton's that's my favorite after the debacle of your endorsement of Burger Rings, no one's giving you money to endorse products, that's for sure. No, I couldn't get enthusiastic about the Burger Rings, I have to say. You totally dropped the ball there. But I have to say they're still there at home

and the daughters are eyeing them off. Like, have you finished with these Burger Rings yet, Dad? The unopened pack, the prop. Yeah, yeah. My wife said, are these to be eaten now? And I said, no, no, no, I need to. And she's like rolling her eyes. Right, okay.

Back in the cupboard they go. You can buy other packs of burger rings, you realise. It's not just that one pack. I know, I know, but they're there. I need to, yes, i need to up my game do you like how long do you leave the tea bag in because that's the patience to leave the tea bag in long enough to get a good brew is one of my weaknesses yeah but it's got to be you've got to do another task it's got to be like melting the butter with the eggs you know you like you've got to do something else to give it its proper time because as long as possible makes it nice and strong.

I mean, it's gotten to a point now where, like, my wife, when I say, do you want a tea, she'll always say, yes, please, a strong tea. Like, she'll always, like, that has to be said. But it's because it's always said it's kind of lost its meaning now. Is that because you're impatient? So you just sort of drag it through the water and then throw it in the bin straight away? Yeah, just like it just has to touch the water for the tea to have been made.

Strong tea, please. Yes, I know. Strong. We make a pot of tea. So my wife, I get up in the morning, I make a coffee and then I put the pot of tea on as well for her. So if I'm working from home, my second drink will be from that pot, which is because it's a pot, you know, it's nicely brewed. Yeah. That's always the yummiest type, so.

All right. Teapot. Well. Teapotcast. There we go. That's a name. Teapotcast. The teapot.

The podcast. Oh, yeah. Oh, I just like the teapot as a name. The teapot. The teapot. Welcome to the teapot with your hosts, Brady Heron and Tim Hine. Today. And you're going, how are you, Brady? And and Tim Hine. Today.

How are you, Brady? And then there's a little sound. Oh, good. Yes. What would you like? Would you like a bit of milk with that? This would be a hard podcast to make when your hosts are in Australia and England. Yes, yes.

Yeah. You need to be in the same room. But you could also then discuss things that you eat with tea as well. You have high tea and then all the different, you know, there's the whole scone wars that go on. Yeah. And just like news in the world of tea. Like, oh, there's been a big storm in the tea growing territories of South America and there's going to be a shortage of the mungwunga black leaf tea.

There is, yeah. And tea and the history as well. Of course, tea plays a significant role in history in terms of the United States and the War of Independence and all that kind of stuff. Again, great idea, Diedrich. Thank you very much. And thank you for your patronage. And we'll join you for a cup of tea one of these days. Absolutely.

Over in Sweden. And there'll be no Danes invited because we know how you feel about Danes. People are now using their ideas as ways to send messages to other patrons who have ideas. Not just to send messages, but, like, to have beef with them. Can I just say I really don't like Tall Jeff? You know, I was thinking, you know, in Australia, how we have those tourist attractions around, you know what I was thinking? You know in Australia how we have those tourist attractions around,

you know, like the big lobster and the big banana and the big pineapple and all these places. I reckon Idaho should erect a tall Jeff, like they should build him. The tall Jeff? Ten feet tall. Yeah. I love it. People go and visit the tall Jeff and they can get their photo

with the tall Jeff. Yeah. I would it. People go and visit the Tall Jeff and they can get their photo with the Tall Jeff. Yeah. I would totally do that. I would go there. They could build it so big you could climb up inside it like the Statue of Liberty. You know, that would be quite something. And you could climb to the top where he's holding that stick with the Smurf hat on top and you can go up into the Smurf hat.

That's right. on top and you can go up into the Smurf hat. That's right. And you can also take those photos that you do with forced perspective where you're in the foreground and it looks like you're holding up tall Jeff with your hands. That's right. That's right. That's right.

I hope the Idaho Tourist Bureau is listening because this is a real moment. This would be bigger than. This could be the new Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore. I was about to say Stonehenge, but no, that than... This could be the new Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore. I was about to say Stonehenge, but no, that's right. This is the new Mount Rushmore. This could be the new Stonehenge. Doesn't quite sound right, does it?

No, it doesn't. So, Tim, just one quick final message. Don't forget, 11 o'clock tomorrow, you've got your meeting with the retired policeman. Nothing about the illegal rave. I'm going to put that in my diary now. Oh, no, it's going to have to be 12. I'm still in a board meeting at 11.

But anyway, I'll contact him in the morning. Oh, you're going to have to cancel the board meeting. Hang on. I'm just typing it in. Meeting with the fuzz. Here's a podcast idea. We have to just listen to Tim arranging his diary for the next day as he moves meetings around and stuff.

I'll just say things like, I'll put that over there and I'll email them now yeah there we go