The Unmade Podcast - 72: Who is Soulja Boy?

Episode Date: February 3, 2021

Tim and Brady discuss eavesdropping, Soulja Boy, a Trap remix, the name 'Stephen', a spoon of the week, Amway, radio promotions, the beach, Disneyland Paris, and memes. Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to hover.com/unmade - https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/lc0nv6 There's an extra 42 seconds of this episode just for da Patrons - https://www.patreon.com/posts/47074478 USEFUL LINKS Soulja Boy's Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soulja_Boy Trap Music - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_music Thanks Steve for your Sofa Shop cover and check out many of our Sofa Shop Covers here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRNeH_Kpl1ZgpeiNeJ-oiAQ The name Stephen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen Two Piece Feed Merch - https://teespring.com/two-piece-feed Pictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Amway - https://www.amway.com Amway on Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amway Disneyland Paris - https://www.disneylandparis.com/en-gb/ Matthew's House - https://www.unmade.fm/press-play Tim's viral tweet - https://twitter.com/Tim_Hein/status/1353842832918761473?s=20

It's that time of the week again, your favourite time of the week, when you get to pod with me. Pod with you. Should we just do ideas for a podcast? Today's the day for some good meaty ideas, man. Let's just get them out there. Yeah? Yep.

No faffing around with 30 minutes of irrelevant talk. I've been trying to listen to find a new podcast. I've been browsing around for podcasts particularly the other night because i couldn't sleep and i'm like oh give me something else to listen to man i couldn't come up with anything i couldn't find anything and i'm just wondering i think the industry needs our ideas that's where we've reached that's where we've got to people i thought you were going to say you ended up listening to the Unmade podcast because there's just no podcast better. That's right.

That's what you want to do laying awake at night when you can't sleep is listen to your own voice with your friends. Bore yourself with your own ideas. Yeah. I guess it would get me to sleep, that's for sure. So, who's going to share their idea for a podcast first today look i'll go first i'll go first i've got i think i've got an intro i don't know if it's a good idea i think it's a good idea it's an intriguing idea and it's one that came to me walking down the street prompted

by something beyond my control it came to me like a gift like out of the sky is it called the bird poo podcast no but let me write that one down let's go i was walking along i was walking the dog right walking along the road two guys i would say much younger than me like two pretty hip looking guys sort of young adults you know walking down the road having a conversation you know obviously i can't hear what they're talking about as they're coming closer and then and then as they move past them you know you can just catch a line of a conversation yeah i caught a line and it was a very confident statement by one of the other, one cool guy to the other guy. And this was the line,

soldier boy is the most influential artist of our generation. Right. And then they were gone, right? And I'm just walking along and I'm thinking, wow. I mean, if that's true, who the heck is soldier boy? Like that's big news, right? Like, wow. So there are two ideas that come from this.

Firstly, who the heck is Soulja Boy? That's a podcast. Yeah. But the second one is I love the idea that a podcast could start from a random conversation. Like, what if you and I met up, we did a podcast based around the idea that Soulja Boy is the most influential artist of our generation and we just have to run with that.

Well, absolutely. Like I like that idea. I'd call it extrapolation. Yes. You've got one sentence of a conversation. You just have to extrapolate from there. Yes, yes, that's right, yeah. You're well on the way because half the difficulty with a podcast

is just getting going. And heaps and heaps of podcasts talk, they start with all sorts of faffing around, don't they? Yeah. Like we do. So, yeah, that seed, you get a different seed for each podcast and from that seed you have to just go with it. That's a good idea.

I'll come back to it in just a second. Who is Soulja Boy? I don't know. I've resisted finding out until now. I'm going to look, but before I do, you guess. Well, what I've had as the default thought in my mind is like an artist, a painter, like an expressionist kind of painter. But then I'm thinking, hang on, these two guys, they're not going to walk along talking like that. Like they looked a little bit more skateboardy, you know, like so.

In fact, no, one of them was holding a skateboard. That's right. One of them was holding a skateboard. So I thought maybe a graffiti artist or something like that. But the more I think about it, I wonder if it's more music-based or something like that. Yeah. Soulja Boy. But here's the other possibility, man.

I could have misheard. And that's the interesting part of it. He may not have said Soulja Boy. You know what I mean? He might have said, I i don't know something that rhymes with soldier boy billy joel billy joel or the other possibility is that soldier boy could be his nickname for his favorite artist you know what i mean like yeah like like Picasso. My soldier boy, Picasso.

My soldier boy. He's just so down with this guy, whoever he is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, I've got some news for you, man. Yeah. You didn't miss here, but you kind of did.

Right. Because soldier is not spelt as in a soldier who goes to war. Right. It's soldier as in soul. I've got soul. It's all about soul. Yep. J-A, soldier boy.

Oh. And it's a musician. It's an American rapper, songwriter, record producer, actor, streamer, and entrepreneur. And all-round influential artist. Well. Definitely. That's-round influential artist. Well. Definitely. That's not a bad name, Soulja.

Yeah, with soul. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a Billy Joel connection. It's all about soul. It was all about soul. It's all about Soulja Boy.

So you could say that Billy Joel was influential on Soulja. So strictly speaking, Billy Joel is the most influential artist of his generation. Well, don't start me on Billy Joel. You know I love him. Yeah. But getting back to your original idea, I love that idea of just lifting a line, a seed, and having to, like, extrapolate from it. How would one harvest these seeds in your, like, hypothetical podcast? Well, one way is just to walk the streets and and listen in which is kind of fun

anyway right not to not to hold like long conversations but just catching a line of a conversation yeah like because people people i tell you one thing i notice is that you know when people go for a ride adelaide's got a lot of you know sort of guys and girls you know out on their bikes because we have the tour down under so which is sort of like a very very very very minuscule version of the tour de france yeah and and i noticed i've noticed like i ride with some friends and we talk but one thing i've noticed when you're not riding when you just have riders go past and they're talking to each other they're yelling like they're talking really really loudly so you're often hearing bits of conversations about you know are you going to accept the job or what or you know so to just

sell those shares or you know like there's just yeah but they're yelled even though you just get a snippet so just hearing people is one way to do it phone conversations are another one like just hearing one half of a phone conversation when someone walks past on a mobile phone yes yes yes that's very good yeah yeah or on the bus and or train or something when you when you're hearing quite a bit of a phone conversation but only one half of it yeah are your daughters old enough to have like mobile phone conversations they do yeah yeah in fact i've um yes spent about an hour of last night trying to get one of their iPhones working again. I literally did a hard restore. I bet young kids' mobile phone conversations that you eavesdrop on would be a good source as well.

Especially for finding out names of artists, influential artists you've never heard of. And then being totally effusive about their dominance. Like, so-and-so is the best. You know, there's the- Oh, I love her vlogs. Yeah, I think this is good. Yeah, I'm up for that. Have you ever heard of Soulja Boy?

You haven't. Yeah, of course. I've been to several Soulja Boy gigs. Oh, that's why you wear that Soulja Boy cap backwards that I always see you wear. I had never heard of Soldier Boy. I guessed it was going to be some cool, like, you know, urban music cool person, though. Let me have a look at him. Oh, Soldier Boy.

What in the heck is that dance? Oh, Soldier Boy. Before you look. Yeah. Guess what year Soldier Boy was born. Of his generation. So I'm guessing the generation around the age of these dudes who looked like they were young, you know, around 20 or a bit younger. So I'm going to say post 2000.

Is that right? Nah, 1990. That's acceptable. Oh, right. Oh, boy. Well, he's our generation. Hang on a second. No, we were in high school when he was born.

Oh, that's true. Oh, yeah, soldier. Better known as soldier boy tell him or simply soldier boy. Soldier boy tell him. Soldier and soldier boy. Hang on, are they the same people? There's soldier and Soldier Boy. I don't think that's that complicated, man.

He's just like a rap dude. There he is, yep. I mean, you're a lover of all music. Are you going to get into a bit of Soldier Boy now and, you know, investigate further? I will do the second part. I will investigate further. I may not get into him. I'm resistant to new music at this stage of my life, to be perfectly honest.

My canon is nearly full, I would say. Not room to squeeze in a little soldier boy there? Gosh, not what? All he has, he's got about 20 albums. Look at this. I love it when you look at a Wikipedia article. Straight away you think, what subheading am I going to go for? I went to the section called Robbery,

where in 2008 he was robbed and batted in his home. Initial reports indicated that the robbers were six masked men with AK-47s and pistols. But in December 2008, videos surfaced on the internet of two masked men claiming sole credit for the crime. And then I went to the controversies subheading. And there's just a whole list of them.

And each one has got a sub subheading with the name of, like, another rapper or artist. Like Ice-T and Bow Wow. Chris Brown, Tiger, then Jake Paul. So he said like a controversy with each other artist. He is the most influential artist of his generation, simply because he's just had a controversy with every other artist of his generation. You go, Soulja Boy. Soulja Boy.

Look at his album. Look, I went straight to the albums to see if I'd heard of any of his albums and stuff. His first album was called Unsigned and Still Major, Da Album Before Da Album, which is quite... I've never heard someone say Da Album with less street cred than you just did. Da Album. I was sort of enunciating it so you'd understand what I was saying. Normally, I'd let it flow off in my cool hip-hop way. What will you do if your mum listens to this episode and says,

Tim, I can't believe you'd never heard of Soulja Boy? Soulja Boy. The only soldiers my mum's into is those little British toy soldiers You know, the guard, Buckingham Palace That'll be in her mind Yeah, very nice There we go Alright, I like it

I'm just wondering if you had a Wikipedia page What controversies would be? Controversies Money for nothing solo Duh, money for nothing solo. Duh, money for nothing solo. Duh, money for nothing solo. All right.

I'll tell you what, speaking of cool music, should we do today's Sofa Shop cover? Yeah, let's whip it out. All right. So, as you know, we love the sofa shop advertising jingle from the 1980s. All of the civilians out there, you've been sending in your covers that we feature on a regular basis now. And today I have got one from Steve and I'll read what Steve wrote. Hi, Tim and Brady. I'm a huge fan of the podcast and have been amazed by all the other covers sent in so far. Anyway, I have produced a trap remix of the jingle, but I wouldn't be surprised if neither of you know what trap is at all.

He knows this, doesn't he? We didn't know who Soulja Boy was. We down with da trap. Da trap, Steve goes on to explain. Trap is a style of hip hop that has become insanely popular in the past few years. And now almost everything imaginable has a Trap remix on YouTube. So I thought I'd try my hand. I'm not sure if this remix will be to you guys or any other audience's taste, but give it a go.

Have a good one,ve or soldier steve as his friends know him so i'm looking up trap music because i want to understand what's going on here it's a subgenre of hip-hop that originated in the southern united states in the early 90s oh there we go atlanta slang word trap which refers to a place where drugs are sold illegally. Huh. Did you know that, man? You've been running a drug syndicate for a while. I don't know.

I've been watching a lot of Breaking Bad lately, but yeah. So I don't know if the sofa shop was ever a place where illegal drugs were sold. I like to think not. your only stop for the sofa you need. The Sofa Shop is your only stop for the sofa you need. The Sofa Shop, yeah, come and drop in on Halifax Street. We have a sofa designed for you. Choose your fabric, match your curtains too. The Sofa shop ain't gonna cost what you think it will Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop What did you think of Soldier Steve's remix? Look, I liked it. It sounded very familiar. I was like, oh, trap, when you spoke to me about it,

and I was like, trap music, oh to me about it and i was like trap music oh is this going to be you know highly complex new dense sound but it's actually a very minimal sound it's a very familiar sound and now it makes a lot of sense because it's kind of like an early 90s pop sound that's thrown into um hip-hop today by the sounds of it very simple drum so it sounds really yeah quite minimalist and can i just ask a question about firstly steve lovely work beautiful work well done on the trap that's great if everyone's got a trap remix it's important that the sofa shop does too so i'm glad that's allotted in there yeah i always felt that was lacking from the sofa shop canon personally but now you've fixed that for us can

i ask a question about the name steve you know how there's two ways of spelling steven right so you've got s-t-e-v-e-n or s-t-e-p-h-e-n now to shorten steven with a v makes a lot of sense to steve right so steven drop N, you've got Steve. Are the other Stephens with the PH, are they allowed to call themselves Steve as well? Because strictly speaking, they should be Steph. Like Steph Curry. Yes, that's right. Who is a Stephen who shortens it to Steph?

Does he really? Well, Steph Curry is the first Stephen with a PH I know who shortens it to Steph. My best friend growing up next door, is the first Stephen with a PH. I know who shortens it to Steph. My best friend growing up next door, his name was Stephen with a PH, and he was Steve for short. So I'm perfectly comfortable with this. I consider it more of a phonetic shortening than a spelling shortening, and therefore I think Stephens with a PH are well within their rights to be a Steve.

But they essentially are just choosing a whole other name as their nickname, aren't they? Well, let me drop this bombshell on you. Steve, who wrote us that email, like, you know, Soldier Steve, is a Stephen with a PH. Well, really? But you called him Steve because he signed off as Steve. Is that right? He signed off as Steve. But when I looked at his email address with his full name, it's got a PH. That's interesting. So essentially he's signing off with a whole other name. Basically he's got a code name. It's like a fake name. An alias. Worst alias ever. It's hard to introduce yourself as, hi, I'm Stephen

aka Steve. It's like, ah. Well, I don't know. Is there any different to someone with the last name Hein putting a dog on it to become Hein Dog? Well, yes. I mean, I didn't do that, to be honest. That was given to me by the hip-hop community. But. Yeah.

Hang on. Let me see if Hein Dog's listed under the controversy section of Soulja Boy. Emma, hang on. Let me see if hindogs listed under the controversy section of Soulja Boy. Little Bow Wow, Ice-T. No, no, didn't make it on this time. All right. Well, I think it's time for a sponsor message from Da Hover.

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we can be contacted through our new website. Well, not yet. You can't because you haven't got a website. At the moment, it just goes to a place where you can buy t-shirts and stickers and mugs, but. Yeah. Wow. That's true. So you could buy our memorabilia. You may not be able to get us, but you can get our memorabilia. Yeah. You could wear that to your wedding. That's true. That's true. We're a bit like the beatles there's a hell of a lot of t-shirts around but you just can't book us to play so tim it's that time again where tim showcases a souvenir spoon from his family collection which he's now inherited that's right it's time for Time for Spoon of the Week. Well, Brady, I've got a very dignified and important, some would say corporate-looking spoon today.

This spoon is from the Amway National Conference. I know you always cut me off and go back and get me to describe the spoon, so I'm going to go straight into that part. Okay, so it's gold. Not often you do gold ones. They're more often silver-coloured. Gold ones, you know, are always a bit of a special moment. I'm not sure. I mean, it's fairly light, so I think it may not be genuine gold,

but this is a teaspoon straight out of Trump Tower. Let me tell you that. This is quite a bit full. Yeah. Ornate sort of, is it the serpentine? Is that what you call the stem there? The scoopy bit's very plain, but it's a very small scoopy bit, I'd say. And in need of a clean, I would say, as well.

But up the top, it comes around to quite a royal looking shield and then a perfect circle. There's no photo, but it has a wreath and inside. None of them have photos. It's normally like enamel paintings. But anyway, you always call it the photo at the top. It's hardly ever a photo. No, but the photo is the technical name for an enamel painting. Sorry.

It's actually DeFoto. DeFoto. I'm so going to call this DeUnmade Podcast this episode. Tenth year in Australia, Amway, trademark, national, and I'm pretty sure it says convention, actually. It's very tiny writing and well-worn in. So, I was thinking it says conference, but it's convention. So, the 10th year annual Amway National Convention. So, Amway had their 10th annual convention in Australia, and it was such a big deal. They had

spoons made for the occasion. That's right. That's right. That's right. How would you describe Amway to sort of, because I imagine we have some younger listeners for And it was such a big deal. They had spoons made for the occasion. That's right. That's right. That's right. How would you describe Amway to sort of, because I imagine we have some younger listeners for whom Amway isn't quite that iconic brand that it was when we were growing up. No. Well, it's direct sales. Multi-level marketing, they call it. That's right. Pyramid selling is another name for it, but they don't like that so much.

Pyramid selling. That's right. For legal reasons, I will say it has been accused of being pyramid selling, but it's never been convicted of it or gotten in official trouble for it, as far as I know. So that's just scurrilous. It's multi-level marketing. That's right.

To explain it in lay terms, essentially people are recruited, invited to sell a bunch of products, cleaning products and other products, but they're also invited to recruit other people to sell those products as well. So they kind of build their little business. And you get like a small commission from those below you and those above you get a commission from you, almost in a kind of a triangular type structure. That's right. So you're building a business, you're working on the business as well as working in the business with sales. And you can reach different levels.

You know, you can reach, what was it, like diamond and platinum and, you know, these different levels where you get better commissions and greater commissions. You move up the triangle. That's right. That's right, to the pointy bit. And never quite to the pointy bit, but closer to the pointy bit. You're always aspiring to get higher up that Egyptian triangle.

That's right. But they would have, in all these sort of sales-based enterprises, there's a lot of motivation, you know, a lot of motivational books, a lot of conventions with motivational speakers, you know, those hyped up people that wear those microphones like air traffic controllers and yell a lot. And that's what this would have been like. And I have to say, I've been to a few of these across the years. In my early years, I associate Amway kind of with the 80s. It was a very 80s kind of thing, but maybe that's just because when my parents had a bit of a dabble in it. Oh, are we getting to the source of this spoon, perhaps? I think we are. Well, look, I think I can't remember the 10th Amway

National Convention specifically, but I can remember going to some Amway events, like conventions, you know, big room, lots of people and a motivational speaker, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. Mum and dad were involved in this for a little while, very early on, but not for very long. I think they got a bit suspicious and it wasn't really their thing. But they did have lots of other friends and friends of our family who were involved in it for a long time. And even though they weren't involved every now and then because really good speakers would come and speak at it

or people that they liked, we would sometimes go along. So actually the Amway events that I remember going to wasn't because we were involved in Amway. It was more just that we had friends who were. And it was like, oh, this will be a dinner and a good speech kind of thing. I can remember being quite enamoured by these speakers when I was young. You know, they're very enthusiastic. Oh, yeah, they're good at what they do.

And who doesn't get, you know, seduced by the idea of making a few dollars on the side? And perhaps picking up a souvenir spoon. Oh, the better. That's right. So that's why I think I've got this and why I... Yes, I was going to say treasure it. It's not my favourite spoon in the Hein Spoon Souvenir Collection. Well, maybe if someone wants to send Tim two more Amway spoons

in exchange for his one Amway spoon, we could start a whole little thing here. And if anyone would like to work for those two people sending me those spoons, then they could recruit them. Again, we'd form our own lovely triangle with me at the pointy bit. At last, I've made it. At the top. At the top.

There we go. The holder, the bearer of the gold spoon. I have been ambushed once, Amway. I remember I was living with a couple, a boyfriend and girlfriend, and I lived with them. We were just all housemates. And this other couple wanted to come around who they were friends with for drinks, and I was there as well because, you know, I lived there.

So they were like, oh, our friends are coming around. Why don't you hang out with us? And they came around and we cracked out the beers and it was all nice. And then, like, suddenly it turned into this really hard amway sales pitch yes and like me and the other guy that lived there were like well this is rubbish we're not having this so we got the other husband who wasn't that into amway anyway and we just left the room and started playing pool and we left the girls in the other room and we were like and then we started saying oh this amway stuff what a load of crap who would ever fall for that and then we went into the other room to check on how the girls in the other room and we were like, and then we started saying, oh, this Amway stuff, what a load of crap, who would ever fall for that? And then we went into the other room to check on how the girls were going

and the girl I lived with was signing some contract to join up. She'd already been sold into it while we were playing pool. We were like, oh, no. We had to do an intervention. We just left them alone for 20 minutes and she was in. Oh, dear. I remember when I was pumping petrol and one night one of the guys behind the counter pumping petrols, you know, was really, really lovely guy and would chat to me lots and all that

sort of stuff. And then one night said, you know, you look like a guy who's got a lot of ambition. And I was like, oh, yes, I have. And this was before you could trick people with spam email. You just had to do it face to face. That's right. That's right. I'm a crown prince and I've got a million dollars I need to transfer.

I'm like, oh, wow, that sounds exciting. So he invited me back to, like, have a coffee at his place and all that. And he had pictures of aspirational mansions and things like oh would tim you know look at these would you like a house like this one day and i was sort of going off would i you know that'd be great and uh you know cars and things like that and then he and i but i on the way was it on the way there or beforehand i had made some little quip about um you're probably just gonna sign me up for amway or something like that so by the by the and he'd remained you know mum and then by the time we got to talking and stuff he said

look tim uh it it is amway however don't focus on that focus on the dreams and he points to the houses again like you know i don't think you would have been pretty street smart back then i reckon you probably would you wouldn't have fallen for that too much no no i thanked you i thought he was a really nice guy so it is hard when you like the person because you don't want to disappoint that i said look no i'm hoping you see he was going to say it's not amway it's confederated products yeah that's right yeah yeah what there's a fruit that's from a film isn't it there's a yeah go uh go go yeah yeah they thought they're getting trapped into some devious behavior That's from a film, isn't it? Yeah, Go. Go, yeah, yeah. They thought they're getting trapped into some devious behaviour. It was a cop.

Remember, it was a cop that pulled them over and then he let them off and said, come round for dinner, and then tried to sign them up for Pyramids. That's right. That's right. Oh, now, Tim, of course, Amway is not the only company and organisation big enough to have its own souvenir spoons. Of course, the Unmade podcast, each episode gives away one of our souvenir spoons that we've had manufactured to a Patreon supporter.

Yes. So it's time to randomly choose a Patreon supporter. You too can support us on Patreon. Go to patreon.com slash unmade FM. You could also recruit other people to be patron supporters. Recruit two. Recruit two people to become a Patreon supporter and ask each of those two people to ask another two people.

And you could become a diamond patron supporter. That's right. Move your way up the Patreon pyramid. The Egyptian triangle of trust. Egyptian three-dimensional triangle of trust. So, Tim, sometimes we spin a wheel. Is there some other way you would like to randomly choose today's winner? Can I shuffle through motivational books and then pull out one with a nice cover?

Like I'll shuffling now. Have you got a shuffling books? Pages maybe I could do. Pages. Okay, okay. Well, I've got a good one here. So let me shuffle through these. Chapter one.

You can do it. Choose a random page to stop at. Should I go with chapter two, making the sale? Chapter three, just hang on. I'll do it random. Yep. Okay. There. There we go. All right. And is there. I'll do it random. Yep. Okay. There.

There we go. All right. And is there a name written at the bottom of that page? 47. Steve. What the heck is this? No. It's not.

No. Hang on. Upon closer inspection, it appears that name is Leo from France. Ooh. Leo from France. Leo. Leo. I think your first name is Leo.

I wasn't exactly sure which was your first name And which was your last name But I've decided it was Leo And you're from France We do have a few other Leos who support us on Patreon So if you got unnecessarily excited just then It's the one from France who should be excited How many Leos are in the bag, man?

I think we have three Leos that support the podcast financially. And what's the collective noun for three Leos? Oh, it's got to be a pride. A pride of Leos. Yeah. Nice. So from our pride of Leos, it was Leo from France who gets the spoon. That will be in the post.

Just a reminder, if you support us on patreon make sure your postal address is up to date because when we send you things like spoons and pins and other bonus stuff and all that i just use the address that you've supplied with the with the patreon so uh if you've changed addresses or something like that or you haven't put an address a reminder to go along to the your patreon page and find the section where you can do that. Because if your address is out of date, your spoons and pins and presents are being claimed by someone else who probably has never even heard of the Unmade podcast. No. Unless you sold your house to someone who also listens, which would be a nice thing

to have done. Hmm. Time for an idea from me. Yes, at last. At last. The moment everyone waits for. I'm throwing in another curveball today, Tim. Right.

My podcast is called the Radio Promotional Voice Podcast. Right. You know when you listen to commercial radio and things like that and they do like their little ads or promos for shows or special features or competitions, and it's got all those effects all over it where every few words, it changes tone or pitch or it goes deep. We've got the cash. Yes.

And then it goes all echoey and there's weird sound effects and all that. Because obviously someone has decided normal speaking that you would hear on the radio is not attention-grabbing enough. So when you really want to do something special, you have to do this crazy effect editing to it. Yes, yes, yes. You know it well. I'm envisaging a podcast where you talk just about normal everyday things,

but it's edited and affected all the way through in that style of editing and sound effects. Nice. So, you could be just talking about something normal, like going to the beach for five or ten minutes, but it's just got that full on. So, anyway, rather than like talk about it or try to do it, which is almost impossible, I thought maybe you and I could talk about going to the beach

and then I will give it to my radio editor friend and he will turn it into that style of podcast. Nice, nice. So shall we start talking about the beach? Well, we can. We've changed beaches. This is a big decision. You've changed beaches?

You've changed the sand, the shops, the waves, the water, the whole beach experience. What beach are you going to now? Tell us the news, Tim. We're going to Henley Beach. Henley Beach. I don't know if I told you that we moved house. You moved house.

We moved house and we bought the house with cash. And a mortgage. Cold hard cash If you call in right now With the secret sound So from your house You can drive in a straight line To Henley Beach If you drive, you know

Straight west Pretty much, that's right Henley Beach Is a great beach Like it's one of Adelaide's best It's lovely Yeah, yeah There's sand, there's water

There's not a lot of people. You can walk the dog. Walk the dog. As long as you keep him on the leash, you know, at the appropriate times. You've got the leash. You've got the poo bags. The one thing it doesn't have is a really good fish and chip shop nearby. Fish and chip shops couldn't afford the rent.

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There we go. It's a new day. It's a new beach. It's a new summer. We're going to be at the beach all summer long. What else is good about the beach? The surfing. The sunshine. The good times.

Well, there's not a lot of surf. There's no waves in Adelaide. Anyway, Tim, getting back to, you know, radio promotional voices, you a big fan of radio stations that use that type of marketing? Look, I can't stand them. I really can't. I don't even put them on. I don't have them on my dial in the car.

I'm over wacky FM stations. Yeah, I'm afraid. I can't stand it. But the problem is, so I don't listen to commercial radio at all, but the problem is the BBC has a station here called Five Live, which is like their sports station. So I do listen to that a lot. And they're really big on this type of voice alteration, modulation, deepening, echoing, reverb effects, sound effects.

Drives me crazy. It makes the normal content sound as aggravating as an advertisement. That's the frustrating part of it, doesn't it? It's normally if you have a normal conversation, it's like, okay, now we'll go to an ad and here we are. But actually they're talking like it's an ad all the time, which just feels exhausting. It's just exhausting.

I can't put up with it. Don't start me on radio, Tim. Nothing turns me into a grumpier old man than complaining about radio. Drives my wife bonkers. Anytime the radio is on, all I do is complain about it. The frustrating thing is it's such a wonderful medium. Like, I just love it, listening to a radio. Listening to a podcast is obviously a similar kind of thing.

It's intimate and it's beautiful and a lovely long interview with someone or lots of great music playing randomly chosen by someone. It has so much great potential, but it's awful that it's used in this way. And, yeah, very, very tiring indeed. Maybe not my best podcast idea then. No, it's great. Well done, man. I love it.

It is fun to mock, though, that's for sure that's that's true and and and whinging about it is actually part of the complaining part of the joy of it shall we end on a high shall we end with an idea submitted by a patreon supporter yes xavier who is, coincidence, also from France. Nice. As our spoon winner was. I love these little coincidences. Xavier is actually a French and British dual national. I was born in England but moved to France very soon afterwards,

though I am now back in England since 2016. I grew up in Disneyland Paris. Not literally, but the reason why my family moved to France a little after I appeared on Earth was because my dad got a job in the park. So going there was a constant part of my childhood. It was the place where I spent most of my youth after home, school and my friend Matthew's house. I love that detail. Because of that, I'm still utterly fascinated by theme parks, everything Disney and roller coasters. I still always use my holidays to go to amusement parks, often by myself.

Here's his idea for a podcast. Xavier says it's called Let's Make a Meme, Mate. It's a challenge podcast. The hosts, who hopefully also have names beginning with an M, and or guest, have one month to create a meme and must attempt to make it go viral in whatever way they can think of. At the end of each month, they meet on the podcast to divulge what they did, how it went, and evaluate each other's attempts. The fun of this is threefold.

First, having people go undercover on the internet attempting to artificially get something to become popular, hopefully in silly ways. Secondly, the exchange on the podcast would inevitably lead to discussions about how virality works on the internet, different subcultures, the trends they've been seeing, different non-internet events that affected the discourse, etc, etc. That's an interesting podcast in of itself. And finally, there's a possibility that one day they might succeed in making a meme go viral. Imagine if you're a listener of the podcast and suddenly realizing that a funny image or template that you saw all over Twitter was actually made by one of the hosts.

Tim, before we discuss the idea, can we just comment on how well I read that? I didn't stumble or make a single mistake. I say your reading's improving. Well done, man. Sorry. As I was going, I was thinking, oh, my God, I still haven't made a mistake. Can I make it all the way to the end? And I was getting so excited.

I was beginning to wonder what was going to happen. Anyway, enough about me marvelous comprehension two stars lovely work back to work uh sorry i've made that idea way too much about myself haven't i um that is a great idea xavier yeah that would be lots of fun the only thing i take slight issue with is he says it would be interesting to talk about attempting to artificially get something to become popular. Isn't that kind of almost always the way anyway? Like most of the time people are deliberately trying to make things be popular. I wonder if there can be a meme of just you reading perfectly, man. Like just. I think every I think all memes are attempts to become popular.

I don't think anyone ever posts a meme to Twitter thinking, oh, I hope just one person sees this and no one retweets it. I'm going to put this out there, but don't look at it. That's right. No, whatever you do, do not retweet or share with anyone. Can I go back to one detail there from, is it, no, hang on, Leo? No, Leo was the last guy from France. Xavier was there.

Xavier. Indeed, yes, Xavier. Just to go back to one detail, he said that the time he spent at Disneyland was the time not spent at home or school or Matthew's house. Yeah. And I'm thinking, you know when you're young and you've got a friend who's got such a cool house that you love going to their place because it's all different toys and new stuff.

Yeah. How awesome must Matthew's house be that it was higher on the list than Disneyland for him to spend his time? Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. And I was thinking, if the French tourism board had any sense, they'd have a theme park called Matthew's House.

Oh, Matthew's House is amazing. Matthew the Ride. Matthew the Ride. The Matthew Coaster. Matthew's Lego. It's just like Matthew's Lego, normal Lego. It's Matthew's. Maybe it's about his parents.

A great mum who made like awesome milo or hot chocolates or something or their pantry had nicer stuff in it i bet matthew had a swimming pool that's for sure yeah yeah yeah i mean probably the good thing about going to matthew's house was there were no lines that's right the thing i want to know, though, about the Disney, like Disneyland Paris, is did Xavier have to line up for stuff or did like kids of the staff somehow get to go on every ride without having to queue? And did they have like an hour after closing time where the kids of all the staff could just go on everything? I want the goss, man. Yeah. Come on, Xavier.

Another email. Tell us what it's like when your parents... I did actually have a friend whose mum worked at Disneyland, who I went to Disneyland with, and I don't recall getting any particular special treatment. Have you ever made a meme go viral? No. No.

No. Have you tried? I've never made a meme. Like, I've never done that, ever. I think it would be fun trying to make memes as your job. Like, I wouldn't do it because, you know, you can't become a job. Not very easy to monetise either. But I think it would be fun just coming up with memes.

The only thing I've ever gone viral, well, it's not gone viral, it's just had lots and lots of likes and retweets, which was just congratulating you on winning the order of australia and then a thousand people liked it and i and that's why i text you saying i hope you appreciate all the support that i'm getting for you from my followers yeah well i hope you learned your lesson you should say nice things about me more often on twitter