The Unmade Podcast - 84: The Back of Your Hand

Episode Date: May 18, 2021

Brady and Tim discuss stings, Sting, silent retreats, more coffee machine gags, 'wingpeople', Miss Piggy, an audio challenge for Storyblocks, a spoon jingle and more spoon stuff, a historic stakeholder idea, the Titanic, the back of your hand, another quiz, and more Sofa Shop covers. Go to Storyblocks for stock video, pictures and audio at storyblocks.com/unmade - https://www.storyblocks.com/unmade THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE - https://youtu.be/144iy_Dkyqg Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/nfaesd USEFUL LINKS A sting, or bumper, or sounder - https://www.mediamusicnow.co.uk/information/glossary-of-music-production-terms/what-is-an-stinger-or-bumper.aspx Sting - the musician - https://www.sting.com Jack Dorsey's beard - https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/10/jack-dorsey-twitter-beard-congressional-hearing Wingmen or Wingmates - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingman Goose from Top Gun - https://topgun.fandom.com/wiki/Nick_Bradshaw Top Gun - movie - https://amzn.to/3uYphhl Eleanor Roosevelt - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Roosevelt Miss Piggy - https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Miss_Piggy Rosebud, Victoria - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosebud,_Victoria Pictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week Rodham The Novel - https://amzn.to/3hN0ZmX The Titanic - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic Back of the Hand pictures Brady showed to Tim - SPOILERS - https://www.unmade.fm/back-of-hands A bonus Back of the Hand quiz for stakeholders - https://www.patreon.com/posts/51359823 More music from Emilija who did the cover in Macedonian - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT_WApLxpbWA-VabT6txs_w Check out many of our Sofa Shop Covers here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRNeH_Kpl1ZgpeiNeJ-oiAQ

Can I start the show by talking? Like, you're always the first voice that people hear and I just want to say something so I'm the first voice in for this episode. There we go, I've said it. Over to you, Brady. sofa you need The sofa shop, yeah come and drop in on Halifax Street We have a sofa designed for you Pick your fabrics, match your curtains too The sofa shop ain't gonna cost what you think it will. Don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop. That rendition of The Sofa Shop came from Chase Long, who wrote, Dear Brady and Tim, I was digging around in the basement and I found a dusty old cassette of the original extended cut

of the Unmade podcast theme tune. Presumably it was cut short for copyright reasons and crimes against musicality. I really liked that cover, utilising our own little jingle sting sound from the start of each episode. Sting? You think of it as a sting sounding sort of ditty, do you? No.

Sting is like an industry term for a short little burst of music that's not long enough to be a song. It's just a little sort of, but it's not even a jingle. It's just a little bit of music that goes between stuff. That's called a sting. That's interesting. Sting should bring out an album of stings. Nothing to do with Sting himself, the pretentious posy singer.

Sting's one of the greatest songwriters in pop music history. Total poser, though. Total utter poser. Well, that's part of the rock game, though, just because he's a good-looking dude and, you know, he looks great in a... I didn't say he was good-looking. You're just going out on your own now.

I like Sting a lot. It's because of all that tantric stuff that came out. That's when I kind of lost a bit of respect for him. There was a little bit of extra stuff that was part of his reputation for a while. Yeah. That ephemeral kind of, yeah, that was part of his. Yeah, can't be doing with that. Sort of new agey ambiance.

Nah, nah. But the music's good. I was listening to The Police last week, actually, and I was listening. That song, Walking on the Moon, is just magic. Marvellous. It's all right. It is. No, it just magic. Marvellous. It's all right. It is. No, it's wonderful.

Lovely bass line and the shimmering guitars. Shimmering guitars. I'll give you shimmering guitars. And Sting is in that song. Yes, he is. Yeah, Money for Nothing He sings, he sings on Money for Nothing Do you remember playing that to me when we were young And you said, pick who the singer is in the background And I had to listen carefully

And you said, listen, and then I went, Sting You went, yes, well done Well, sitting in your lounge room Do you remember that? I don't, but I know that I was an important part of your musical education. Who would have thought all these years later would be inserting our own stings into the podcast? There we go. Indeed.

And can I just say, getting back to Chase's song rather than Sting. Oh, yeah. I don't know how we... Well, I do know how we got to Sting, but we most certainly shouldn't have. I was very impressed by Chase, his lovely, warm voice, just set beautifully with our famous mistuned sounds that we're so famous for. Also, isn't it funny that, like, we've used that little intro sound, Sting music since the start. Alan Stewart wrote it for us but i said i want out of tune i want it deliberately i deliberately want all our sounds to like be out of tune and a little bit off because our ideas are a little bit wonky isn't it amazing

how it foreshadowed that the poor playing of guitar would become such a important part of our podcast well that's why i i i did the same thing. I composed that particular version of Money for Nothing and played it perfectly on that occasion just to suit the ambience of the show. Composed. Yes. Beautiful. Yes, well, I don't think Mark Knopfler is going to own that version.

I think my copyright is quite clear on that particular version. He's not going to put his name on a copyright claim against that is he no no he's not no and yeah i think i um it's comedy genius let's put which is a high compliment to guitar playing speaking of geniuses we'll have more sofa shop covers at the end of the show including one that is very much in the running to be my all-time favorite so hang around for that just a quick interruption to say from this point there are a few moments where i've used some visual aids in the episode it's not essential to see them the show is made to work regardless but there will be links in the show notes and if you

want to watch on youtube the pictures come up on screen and disappear and all that sort of thing just the right times again i'll do a youtube link in the show notes and if you want to watch on youtube the pictures come up on screen and disappear and all that sort of thing at just the right times again i'll do a youtube link in the show notes parish notices if i may go ahead in a recent episode uh tim had what i think would be fair to call a not fully formed but interesting idea which was a podcast about looking at people's faces and sort of trying to divine just from their faces what they might be like as a person their personality type and things like that judging them in other words yeah yeah yeah profiling is another name for that i think but profiling that's right yeah so the walrus stated on our subreddit wrote the following, which I found very interesting. Here's a great story regarding Tim's half-baked idea.

Look, people, there's no need to twist the knife. I think when you're talking about Tim's idea, half-baked makes it a bit of a tautology. Here we go. My friend was on a silent meditation retreat here in South Africa. For 10 days, you sit with your fellow vipassana attendees and don't speak a word to them. She started inventing backstories for them all, and one bloke in particular stuck out to her. He had a big bushy beard, and she imagined him as an Afrikaans sheep farmer, driving a tractor and speaking with an Afrikaans accent. At the end of the retreat, when they could finally talk to each other,

she found out it was actually Jack Dorsey, the Twitter founder. Oh, right. Yeah. Classic. Nice story. Yeah. That would be frustrating to go on a retreat like that and to actually recognise another person.

And you just spend the whole time dying to say, hi, hi, it's you. And you're just sort of waving your eyebrows at them the whole time. My friend goes on those retreats a lot in California. And since the pandemic, she's continued doing them, but they do them by Zoom. And since the pandemic, she's continued doing them, but they do them by Zoom. So, they just all go on to like a Zoom call and spend the week like connecting like by video conferencing, but they still don't talk to each other. Oh, wow. Hmm.

So, do they walk around or do they have to stare at the screen the whole time? I'm guessing they're doing all sort of yoga moves and meditation things, I guess. Sort of sting moves. Oh, yeah. stings all the time of those things it loves that stuff i've been on i've been on one or two of these over the years not full retreats but sort of retreat days you know it's very strong in the christian tradition and it's not heaps my thing and i generally don't look forward to it but then i really really feel refreshed and everything afterwards. It's actually really amazing. And you can't talk.

It's not that you can't talk. It's sort of designed. There are ones that are very strict about that. Like you actually have shared meals over several days with people, but you're not allowed to speak. I've never been on anything like that. But just ways where it's like, all right, we've got a few hours now. I want you to go off and do some stuff. Come back.

You might share a little bit. Now I want you to go off and do some stuff, come back. You might share a little bit, but the idea is to not be nattering on the whole time and to, you know, clear your mind, do some deep reflection and all that sort of stuff. It's really good. Make for a terrible podcast. Well,

that's right. You're all very spacey and relaxed when you come back, you know, like, so it's even then the podcast would be so, you know, so what did you think? And you're like, spacey and relaxed when you come back you know like so it's even then the podcast would be so you know so what did you think and you're like um yeah hmm it just goes on like that for a while i don't think it's for me here's more parish notices following up on tim's enormous coffee machine we had the tim's coffee machine so big gags lots of people have sent in their own, especially on the subreddit. I won't attribute all of these because it just slows things down, but thank you to everyone who sent them. You know who you are.

Do you want to hear a few more, Tim? Okay, yes. All right. The Grand Canyon has legally changed its name to the Mildly Impressive Canyon after seeing Tim's Coffee Machine. Tim's Coffee Machine is so big it has its own church and theological college. Tim's coffee machine is so big Voldemort is afraid to say its name. That's very good.

Tim's coffee machine is so big they carved the faces of the unmade kernels into the side of it. That's tempting. That's the Mount Rushmore of coffee machines. I like that. And finally, here's WebTV64, who I don't think is really getting into the spirit of the joke and wrote, sorry to be a party pooper, but Tim's coffee machine isn't that big. It's pretty regular size for an espresso machine.

Well, thanks very much for sobering us all up there. Nice one. How's the coffee machine going, by the way? Oh, I love it. I really love it. I really, really love it. Yeah. I use it every morning. I love it. I really love it. I really, really love it. Yeah.

I use it every morning. I use it every night. And, yes, it's wonderful. It's been a wonderful addition to the family, actually. I like to think of us because we're sort of the four of us, and then we had the dogs, the five of us, and now we're the coffee machine. It's like the six of us. It's like the family's growing. It's really quite precious.

After the last episode, Tim and I actually started texting more Tim's Coffee Machine jokes ourselves as well. So I've got like a whole list of ones that I've written sitting here on text messages. It took just 118 years from the first powered flight to the creation of Tim's Coffee Machine. The Adelaide Oval is listed on Wikipedia as a small grassy area just to the northeast of Tim's Coffee Machine. is listed on Wikipedia as a small grassy area just to the northeast of Tim's coffee machine. Tim offered to sell his coffee machine to Starbucks and they replied, thanks, but we don't make that much coffee.

Tim's coffee machine is so big it has some buttons that are yet to be seen by human eyes. Tim's coffee machine is headlining Glastonbury. That's right. That's great. Tim's coffee machine is headlining Glastonbury. That's right. That's great. Tim wrote, Tim's coffee machine is so big Admiral Akbar commands it. Tim's coffee machine has a battery compartment that says, insert Lui Yang power station here.

I don't know how, I don't think people fully appreciate how, like we just continue on. Like this is, like we... The podcast is just a warm-up session for our text messages through the week. It just goes on and on every day. Yeah, and we just record a bit of it. And it's not the best bit by any means. It's certainly not.

It's certainly not, and everyone would agree with that. Early civilisations speculated that the Milky Way was in fact a spillage from Tim's coffee machine. Should we do ideas for a podcast? I think we should get to that, yes, we should. Absolutely. Yes, all right. Who's going first me can i go am i am i allowed to go first of course you are it's your podcast too i was going to call this podcast idea goose but that's not a name but you'll see why it's not a bad name in a moment but it you can

hear that it already tentatively sounds like a bad name. But a better name for this podcast is wingmen. Yes. Much better name. Or wing people. Well, I'll come to that in a moment, I think. Okay. But let's stick with wingmen for a moment. Okay.

The wonderful, awesome, reliable people who are the support, the second chair. Yeah. The wingman for the heroes of our time yeah the person behind the person the person next to the person and yeah so i see this podcast as being firstly a celebration of the ones that we all know and we can list a few of those in a moment but also people coming on and talking about whether they are the person or what you know whether they're the guy or the guy behind the guy you know what i mean like whether they are a wingman or they are a man like whose wingman they are and the role they play in the dynamics i think that's kind of interesting yeah but also who their favorite wing

man is you know someone they might be like or take their cue from. This is a really good idea, Tim, and I'm really interested in it. One thing I want to clarify from the start, though, is obviously you said Goose because of the character Goose in Top Gun, who is, you know, Maverick's sidekick. But he's not Maverick's wingman. He's Maverick's Rio, his radar interception officer. He sits behind Maverick in the plane

Your wingman is the other plane that's next to you That's actually true And that's why at the end he says to Iceman You can be my wingman any day You can be my wingman any time You can be mine He says, no, you can be mine He's actually in another plane

Yes, yes. So, I mean, Goose is Maverick's wingman, so to speak, when they're out in the nightclubs, you know, chatting up the ladies. That's when he has that more kind of out-at-the-bar wingman role. Yeah. But when they're actually working, he's not a wingman. That's true. That's a very good observation. Yes, that is.

Thank you. And i think yeah i mean that could so it maybe literally speaking it kind of comes i think one i wonder if it even derives in pop culture from top gun oh yeah top gun definitely was what popularized the notion of wingman that now gets used in you know other parts of culture you know if you need if you need help with something will you be my wingman i made a bit of a list beforehand and you might can i read out some of the great wingmen of history go on and hang on before i get to the list i have to notice you did mention about wing women or wing ladies or wing females wing people. Wing ladies. Wing females. Ladies with wings.

I was just trying to broaden it so that you could take everyone in, all wing people. Well, I support that in principle. But not in practice. They're darn hard to think of. I wonder if that's because it's men who need wing men, because they're insecure. Like, we actually need the support whereas women maybe just are on their own they're out there like they're they're bold and they're strong and they're living life and they're able to handle it i don't agree in fact from my experience the women i know are more willing to accept the help of others and not just try to blunder on on

their own but i think it's hard to think of famous ones because we just live in quite, you know, a sexist culture. Well, that is true. So you can't think of famous ones in movies and stuff. Yeah. Well, that's going to make my list now sound extremely sexist. So thank you for that. At least you'd know that's a start. That's right. Eleanor Roosevelt was a great wing woman. Oh, well know that's a start. That's right.

Eleanor Roosevelt was a great wing woman. Oh, well, that's true. Well, see, this is the thing. Can wives be a wing woman? Yes. A wing person. I was actually thinking that when you get married, essentially your partner becomes your wing person.

They become, you know, the support. You become a pair, a dynamic duo but the problem is with a wingman a wingman does have kind of a a perception that it's sort of a subservient role because you're kind of just guarding the other person while they take the shot you know yeah ice man wants to take the shot and get the glory of shooting down the enemy plane and the wingman's just there like keeping watch so the wingman's just there, like, keeping watch. So the wingman is less of a glorious position. It's almost, like, it's almost more of a sidekick-y type role.

So I think describing marriage as one person being a wingperson probably wouldn't be, like, ideal. Except that you swap all the time. You know, in one situation, it's one person. Yep. In another, you know what I mean? Like, when you're going after serious conquests like finding a new sofa you know what i mean one person's sort of in charge and the other one's kind of the support person

driver and yeah you know and other times it's it's it's the other way around like when you're stacking the dishwasher and the other person's you know handing your stuff or getting in the way or just talking to you about their day. You know, that kind of thing. You sort of swap. Hey, you. But. You can be my dishwasher wingman any time.

That's right. I can't leave ice. He's still coming around. He's still coming around. He's going to get behind us. I'm not leaving my wingman. I mean, when you think about someone like Goose, you're right. They're flying and they're a wingman in the same cockpit.

But you're faced with another situation with an equally able and famous wingman, which is Chewbacca. Is Chewbacca a wingman? Because he's in the cockpit too. Yeah, Chewbacca is a sidekick. He's not a wingman in the kind of aerial combat definition of a wingman. He's not a wingman in the kind of aerial combat definition of a wingman. In fact, you would say Han Solo and Chewbacca were kind of Luke Skywalker's wingman in Star Wars because they're like defending his back while he takes the shot down the trench. But in that kind of more general wingman sense of someone being a bit of a hero and someone being the sidekick, I would say Chewbacca is Han Solo's wingman.

All right. All right. Let's move on to someone else. Barney Rubble. Yep. Definitely. Good one. Wingman.

Yep. Definitely. Ron Weasley. Oh, yeah. Yes. I'll pay that. Some people won't like that, but I think he's a wingman. I think both he and Harry are just essentially wingmen to Hermione, who's the real hero of the story.

See, I'm just working hard to dig my way out of this sexist list. There's Obelix to Asterix. I know you're not overly familiar, but that's kind of a question. I do know who that is, though, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I don't know. You know, obviously Asterix is the hero. So, yeah, I'll pay that. Yep.

Similar Captain Haddock to Tintin as well. Buzz Lightyear. Oh, I'm not so sure about that one. I think Buzz Lightyear is too big a personality and is too big an ego to be Woody's wingman. I think he's, I think they're just separate characters. All right. All right. I'm not going to I think they're just separate characters. All right. All right. I'm not going to give you that one.

All right. All right. Mr. Spock. Oh, that's an interesting one. I'm not sure. I'm also not sure I want to step on that Star Trek landmine. Guaranteed Reddit and Twitter feedback coming here. Okay.

Leo McGarry. No. Oh, well, yeah, no, you're right. Yes. I McGarry. No. Oh, well, yeah, no, you're right. Yes. I was thinking, yeah, to the president, he's the wingman, but to the other characters, like, what's Josh? Josh is kind of Leo's wingman. So we've now got layers of wingmen. I think Josh is more like a protege of Leo.

He's not a wingman. Ah. Okay. Yeah. Valtteri Bottas. Nice. This is a Formula One driver who is a teammate of Lewis Hamilton, for those who don't know who Valtteri Bottas is.

And that's a particularly contentious issue at the moment. Keith Richards. Gene Simmons. Cameron from Ferris Bueller. To be a wingman, I mean, you're just talking about like sort of now friendships where one personality is dominant to the other one. I think to be a wingman, there has to be like a mission that's being done. Okay.

Like there has to be like a task and you have to have the person who's going to achieve the task and be the hero and the person who's kind of helping along the way. Okay. So like, well, the classic one is Robin to Batman. That's a classic Batman kind of situation. Yeah. And, you know, bats and robins have wings as well, so that's perfect.

Yeah, that's very good. Yeah, that's good. Richie Sambora. You can't just name band members. Well, that's true. The Edge, come on. Keith, these are people. Come on. Yeah, that's true. The Edge. Come on. Keith. These are people.

Come on. Here's one. Brady Haran. How's that? Now, this is interesting. Right. Right. On the Unmade podcast, who is the wingman?

And I understand that everyone thinks that they're the centre of their own life. Right. Like, in my life, I am the hero. And you're just like, you're Robin, right? Right. I understand in your life, you're the hero, right? Right. But surely you can't think of me as your Robin.

Why not? I think of you as sort of like the penguin, really. Like you're off. I've just got to deal with it. Or the Riddler. I've got to like be very careful about working with you. But surely I'm too bossy for you to think of me as your wingman. Oh, but I just sort of think that's charming. You know, like you sort of have your little universe of sphere.

It's like when Robin goes, you know, really upset and Batman goes, all right settle down robin let's keep our focus on you're definitely the wingman tim you're definitely the wingman like and i'm happy for you to go and have your own adventures and be a hero sometimes in your own little spin-off comic book but you are the wingman i'm the wingman i would like to hear from people and maybe this is something that people could vote on. I think, look, I think you're the straight man, right? And I'm obviously the star, right? You're the star, right?

Well, think about it. I wonder if this, like you're Kermit the Frog, right? So you're holding down the fort, the show. You're like, you know what I mean? Like doing the serious business and arranging the show and then going out and saying, all right, everyone, here's the next. You know, you're kind of Kermit the Frog. Okay.

And who are you? I guess that kind of makes me Fuzzy Bear. Coming in every now and then. Fuzzy Bear. Yeah. And you ask a thousand people who's the star and who's the wingman of the Muppets. And they'll all say Kermit's the star and Fuzzy's the wingman. Yeah.

No, Kermit's the host. Miss Piggy's the star. Oh, hang on a second. Hang on. Let's notman No, Kermit's the host Miss Piggy's the star Hang on a second Hang on, no Let's not go down that track You want to be Miss Piggy Am I sort of like the guest celebrity that comes on every show? Like, you know, like the Elton John person

There's no shame in being a wingman Maverick is a wingman at certain points Don't be ashamed of being a wingman Accept yourverick is a wingman at certain points. Don't be ashamed of being a wingman. Accept your role in life. I'm not ashamed. I think I am the wingman on the Unmade podcast. I think that's true. I think I'm honoured to do so.

It's a pleasure to be here, just to be in your presence even, just to be talking to you. I mean, it's just amazing. But, no, no, I's that's a pretty good partnership when we describe ourselves with so it's tim and brady though that's the thing but yes maybe we should start reversing brady and tim no no i think tim and brady rolls more naturally off the tongue and also it it makes me seem humble to put you first and i think that's part of my magnificence that i let you go first

So, like Lennon McCartney, you know what I mean? Like, even though Paul McCartney's the one who's alive He still refers to Lennon McCartney That's what you're doing, isn't it? You're allowing Good podcast idea, Tim Not bad for a wingman Thank you, thank you

Now, let's also hear about today's episode sponsor. It is Storyblocks. Oh, fantastic. I was hoping it would be Storyblocks. Storyblocks, the online library of stock material that you can use in your own creations. We're talking video. We're talking sound. We're talking sound. We're talking pictures.

All the good stuff you need if you are a creative type. This is a subscription service. You just pay a very reasonable monthly fee, and then you have access to the whole kingdom. All the stuff is yours to use, royalty-free, limitless, a buffet of digital treats. royalty free, limitless, a buffet of digital treats. Go to storyblocks.com slash unmade to check them out and hopefully sign up and make sure you use the slash unmade so they know you came from here because that makes them think that we're awesome. Both me and my wingman, Tim.

Tim. Yes. I have a challenge for you. A Storyblocks challenge. Oh, are we going on an adventure? We are. We're going on an adventure and I'm going to make you, a Storyblocks challenge. Oh, are we going on an adventure? We are. We're going on an adventure. And I'm going to make you the star of today's adventure.

Oh. I have downloaded four pieces of audio from the Storyblocks library. Yes. And I'm going to play them. And then after you've heard them, I'm going to give you three options as to how they've been titled for kind of, you know, search purposes and stuff like that. Yes. And I want to see if you can match the sound with the title it's been given on Storyblocks. Are you ready for this game?

I am ready. I'm so ready. I've actually closed my eyes because you know how your hearing improves when you close your eyes. We're going to have to open them again because I'm going to send you the sounds via a text message so you can play them okay my eyes are open okay okay you know how you when your eyes are open you can see text messages even better so this first one is a piece of music like sort of ambient stock music you could put in a video okay which one do you want to go for tim do you want to go for theme park summer's day modern european cityscape or background chill corporate okay the first one, no. Right.

The second one I think works pretty well, sort of the cityscape. The third one, corporate chill, also kind of works well. But I'm going to go with the second one because I can see the vista of a cityscape. second one because I can see the vista of a cityscape. That A shows how well I named it because the correct answer was background chill corporate. So you did narrow it down to the right two, but it was background chill corporate. So you made up the second one that I thought worked really well. That's great. Yeah, I'm quite pleased with myself.

You should work for Storyblocks. I should. Storyblocks, you know my number. Give me a call. Okay, call okay i'm sending you number two all right i'm opening my eyes again this is more sort of sound effects that you could use okay tim do you think that was forest Mourning Birds Insects, Mourning Rainforest Australia, or Tweets and Chirps in Trees? Number one. Correct.

That was Forest Mourning Birds Insects. Well played. Yes. Well done. Here comes the third one. We've got a piece of music again now. Nice bit of music. This was a... Okay.

What's that? Sunshine smiles, clown juggling background, or playground ambience? The first one again. Yes. Sunshine smiles. Wow. There we go. Fourth one.

Last but not least. Okay. Not the most pleasant sound, but there you go. What's that? Woman at dentist. salad mixing, or squishy, squashy baked beans? I'm going to have to say squishy, squashy baked beans. It was salad mixing. Oh.

It's very squishy for a salad. Yes, I agree. That is a squishy salad. I'm in agreement with you. So two out of four you got, which is pretty good. That's not bad. Yes. Is there some sort of certificate that you'll send me?

I'll talk to maybe Storyblocks. We'll sort you out with something. Certificate of participation. Certificate of participation. Certificate of participation. Certificate of participation. Go to storyblocks.com slash unmade for all your salad mixing, sunshine smiles, forest morning birds, insects and background chill corporate needs. Nice.

Thank you, Storyblocks. It's time for Spoon of the Week. And normally at this point, I would play the jingle that goes, or the sting, I should say, that goes... Spoon of the Week. But I'm not going to do that today. Yes. Oh. Well, I just did, but that's not going to be the official jingle for today

because we have had a contribution, a sofa shop-based contribution for the Spoon of the Week jingle. This comes from a listener called Tim who wrote, Hello Tim and Brady, you may have noticed on the Reddit that a few of us are working up some Spoon of the Week jingles to the SofaShop tune. They're still working on the music for it, but since you released the original bed version of the SofaShop, I figured I'd go ahead and make this one to send over for your enjoyment.

So to introduce Spoon of the Week, here's a jingle from Tim with lyrics collaborated on on the subreddit. The Spoon of the Week, let's all take a peek at Tim's latest spoon. The Spoon of the Week, yeah, come listen in Right after this tune Tim has a spoon he'll describe to you Scoopy bits and fancy handles too The Spoon of the Week A weekly spoon

Oh, it's such a thrill Tim has got his spoon So now he'll do the Spoon of the Week This is a real mash-up. I don't know how I feel about this. It's sort of getting my categories all confused. I know, I know. It's throwing me around.

And I want to point out, like, I didn't hack into this person's computer and steal this. He sent it in voluntarily for us to play. So don't blame me. I'm not blaming anyone. This was a voluntary contribution. But it is. It's sort of the whole episode pushed down into one. What is this week's Spoon of the Week, Tim?

We're going back to the Hein family collection. After two consecutive episodes of other people's spoons, we had Peggy's and then we had John Green having a spoon. We're back into the Hein treasure trove. That's important to get back to where it all started. Well, Brady, it's great to be back in the original collection. I think people will be able to see from today's spoon how good and faithful and reliable. It's why we trust the original collection. Yeah. Even with these other guest appearances from time to time being given a bit of a run.

Today's spoon is from Rosebud in Victoria. Now, Victoria is a state in Australia, and Rosebud is on what we call the Mornington Peninsula. People probably know Melbourne, and this is south of Melbourne on the coast. Beautiful part of the world. Look, this is a place where we used to go on holiday, and I'm pretty sure we must have just bought it there at some stage i

know particularly mum spent quite a bit of time over here on holidays when she was a little girl because this is not far from gippsland and nana goon where she grew up and this is kind of the coast you go to for a bit of a holiday yeah so today's spoon look let me describe it to you it's um it's round uh at the top and then the stem is simple got straight lines through it coming down to a very ordinary small little scoopy bit i can tell you the scoopy bits have all been a bit underwhelming lately but they're sort of more than made up for by what's the other end called the the bit with the handle the handle at the top the handle that's the handle very good yes yes very good yes so you're a good you're my spoon of the week wingman aren't you i'm a willing sidekick that's um this one features a surfer

which is it's kind of an awkward picture. And this sort of draws to mind the fact that, you know, it's very hard to draw a person surfing properly. Like they all kind of look like they're awkwardly standing. And it's a bit like in the movies, you know, when they have those movies and they have footage of a person surfing and it's kind of close up and it's kind of fake. Yeah, like green screen.

You know, yeah, yeah. And so the person's kind of got to act in the studio like they're surfing and they don't really know how to do it. They sort of stand there dancing, don't they? It's like waving their hands from side to side, sort of bobbing their head a little bit like someone's shooting at them. You know, and it's all sort of awkward. And the guy on this spoon is sort of is surfing a bit like that.

He's standing up one end. Yeah. And he's sort of doing a bit of a dance and a bit of a jive. It looks to me like someone said to him, this man on the surfboard, someone said to him, try to make yourself look like a brontosaurus. And he said, okay, this is my best brontosaurus pose. That's right. Yeah, that's very good.

All right. He's got something on his chest, which is a bit strange. Can you see what that is? It looks like a seagull's, like, pooped on him or something. Oh, I assumed that the, I just thought some of, because he's quite brown complexioned. I thought that kind of white mark on his chest was just some of the enamel had chipped away.

Are you suggesting that's intentional, that white mark on the chest? I'm suggesting that, but even getting close because it looks like a triangle but now i'm looking on an angle i wonder if perhaps you're right i think it's a blemish i think it's an imperfection interesting the only way to confirm this of course would be to find the person who modeled for the spoon yeah and have a look on their chest yeah see if there's a massive white triangle that That's true. We could do that too. But, yeah, all right, Rosebud, Victoria. Is this close to Wilson's Promontory,

which is the place in sort of southern Victoria I most want to visit? No, no. This is on the peninsula under Melbourne. You sort of have to go around to the more directly southern bit just over the top of Tasmania to go to Wilson's Promontory. Oh, okay. It's not far away because this is all not very far away from each other in Australian terms.

Okay. Yeah. This is a lovely area down there, sort of lovely Mornington Peninsula. I've got friends that live down there. We thought about moving there at one stage. Yeah. Really lovely area. So that's a big wrap for Rosebud, Victoria.

Rosebud, Victoria with Surfing with surfing spoon check it out and i'm sure tim you'll send me a better photo later on because again you've sent me an absolute stinker of a photo where you've cut the bottom of the spoon off the shadow of your phone's obscuring it's just an absolute debacle oh god well yes well i'll um in the, with a better light, I'll send you a photo worthy of the spoon. Now, Tim, it's time for us to deal with some winners. We're going to give away one of our Unmade Podcast souvenir spoons, and we're going to give away 10 little selections of Spoon of the Week collector cards to various stakeholders. Stakeholders are our Patreon supporters.

Go to patreon.com slash unmadefm if you would like to become one. Now, Tim, today I have written the names of all our stakeholders onto very wet, squishy pieces of lettuce. And if you want to get the salad tongs and start working your way through the lettuce and pull out 11 pieces of lettuce for us, we'll pull out one to start with to see who the spoon winner is. You got that all right?

There you are. All right. So, Michael B. from Indianapolis, you are the recipient of a spoon, and I'll be sending you that in the post. Now we need 10 more pieces of squishy lettuce there, Tim, for our card winners. Yes.

So we've got... Who's that? I can't read that one. Who's that? It's Preben from Norway, who has actually won a spoon in the past. So Preben is on a lucky streak. You've also got some cards coming.

Massive roll. Let's keep going. Next one. Christopher from North Carolina. Next one. Tyler from Nevada. Here we go. Oh, Tim, are you cheating?

That's two Tylers in a row. We've got Tyler from Iowa. Yep. Next one. Another Tyler. No, it's not. But you are cheating because it's dutch it's barbara from the netherlands yes barbara hello to barbara yep yes next alec s from washington state there we are oh there's two stuck together there oh that's funny tim you've chosen

alex from victoria in australia probably not far from rosebud and we are not cheating here but i actually had a bit of a twitter exchange with alex last week where he was complaining that he hadn't won any cards and i sort of jokingly said be patient your time will come i promise this is a coincidence your time has come. Alex, cards for you. Fantastic. Three more. Another one. There we go. Nicole from Ontario. Hello, Nicole.

There we go. There's another one. Michael E. from California. And last one. I can't see. Is that Lee or Leah? Lee from Nebraska. Cards coming your way, people. Spoon of the Week collector cards.

And keep an eye out for card drops as well, where you can also occasionally buy a few. I usually announce them on Patreon. Tim, I think we should quickly do an idea from a Patreon supporter. We haven't done one for a while. That's a good idea. All right.

We have heard from Reid. Can you guess where Reid is from? Is it Canada? It is Canada. I swear it's not good idea. All right. We have heard from Reid. Can you guess where Reid is from? Is it Canada? It is Canada. I swear it's not rigged. It's Reid from Winnipeg in Canada. Canadians are big on sending in the ideas, the stakeholders. And Reid says, yet another student from Canada.

I'm a grad student in geophysics and my thesis is titled Layer Stripping the Effects of sedimentary basins in tele seismic data using transfer functions that's like almost exactly the same as your thesis tim it is yes yes it's a it'll be a race to see who gets our research out there first all right and reid says uh something interesting about myself. I have never gambled legally. I did try a slot machine before I was 18. I have no moral issues with gambling, but I'm 25 and I'm going to keep the streak. I like the idea of keeping the streak going of only ever gambling illegally, because that makes you sound kind of cool.

Like, I'm quite happy to gamble. I just refuse to do it legally yeah i go to lots of like you know bookies in dark lanes and stuff like that i'm holding back the temptation to go on a bit of a rant at the moment i'm hating poker machines at the moment but we will resist but let it be known poker machines are insidious uh what i do while listening now here here is Reid's podcast idea. It's called Never Happened, a podcast where two people create an entire fake timeline in history for humanity over time. They could use real historical names and events as the source for ideas. There's podcasts where one person could know the real story, but none where neither people knows anything about history. Could be quite fun,

but would likely involve some preparation notes. The first episode could be the fall of constantinople a large pole that fell over in 1238 that destroyed the castle of king lionheart in a freak accident the next two years were tumultuous as a result due to the power vacuum thanks for the good quality content. Keep it coming. Read. This is sort of like taking the Tommyball idea and applying it to history itself. Have I got that right? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the thinking. I actually, this sort of, ever since first reading this idea, it's put an idea for a podcast into my head that i'm going to talk about here kind of because it's

essentially like reed's idea but rather than looking at all history i'm going to make it more specialized i would love to make a podcast called the alternative history of the titanic and make it a weekly episode about the history of the titanic and what happened but have it never hit the iceberg like so it did get across across to New York on that maiden voyage, and then just talk about what happened on the Titanic for the rest of its days, like this famous ship, like, you know, famous people who went on it, things that happened, how it was used in World War I

and stuff like that. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. Because the iceberg really was the sliding doors moment for the titanic wasn't it like it's yeah the iceberg was a terrible wingman that's right yeah that's fascinating there's something always fascinating about the alternative possibility isn't there the other road not taken was it you that was talking about reading the book about hillary clinton if she had not met bill clinton the life that she would have no no she she does i did just read that book

it's called uh it's called rodham and it's not that she doesn't meet bill she in fact she she dates him and has a relationship with him in university as she did in real life but then she ends up deciding not to marry him and it's what hillary clinton's life was like after that yeah it was really good i really enjoyed it it's a similar idea it is endlessly fascinating about and there's tv series about this as well now isn't there about what if the nazis won and yeah and there's also the apple tv one about uh if the russians were first to the moon and stuff like that it's become a real sort of genre now hasn't it yeah yeah yeah it's it's one that works well i like it good idea reed thank you and good luck with all the earthquake stuff as well you do have a we have a lot of science based uh grad students listening i guess they come in through your other youtube clips and so forth but a lot of science people

it's good do you want to hear a podcast idea from me? Uh, all right. I'm actually a bit half-baked today and haven't, I haven't really decided what I want this podcast to be. I've almost got too many options. It's kind of a case of where I heard a title and I can't decide what I want the podcast to be to suit that title. The title is called The Back of Your Hand because I heard someone talking on the radio about how they knew something like the back of their hand.

Yes. And I thought, there's got to be a podcast idea there. I haven't quite decided what it is. Most of my ideas for it are kind of quizzy or game showy. So, Tim, I have here, I'm about to send you more stuff, five pictures of the backs of people's hands. Right. And I want to see if you recognise any of people's hands. Right. And I want to see if you recognise any of them.

Oh. Are you ready? Yes, I'm ready. Here comes the first one. Can you recognise that person by the back of their hands? Oh, gosh, they look so familiar. Oh, it does look... It's from a famous movie or something.

Is that... Okay. Okay. It does look, it's from a famous movie or something. Is that, okay, okay. Is that Tom Hanks in that movie recently where he's like a newspaper man with Meryl Streep? Tim, you're incredible. You are incredible. That's correct. I know Tom Hanks like the back of his hand. Dude, what?

Absolute superstar. That is correct. Here's number two. Wow. Do you recognise the back of this hand? I mean, you obviously will, so give people time to look at it themselves before you ruin it for them. Okay. I feel like this is Michael in The Godfather or The Godfather 2.

I can see why you went in that direction. But funnily enough, that's not correct. Oh. That is Nick Cave. Oh, is it really? Yeah, I thought the rings might have given it away for you, but it's not a very good picture. No, no. Are you sure they're his hands?

Hmm. All right. Here's number three. Whose hand is that? The three. Whose hand is that? The back of whose hand is that? Is that Lewis Hamilton? It is not. It's an even more famous athlete.

Usain Bolt? Is that right? No. No. It's Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan. Oh, there you go. Whose hands are these?

After a great start, you've gone downhill a bit. So I'm hoping you get this one. Oh. Oh, there you go. Whose hands are these? After a great start, you've gone downhill a bit, so I'm hoping you get this one. Oh, dear. Is it the Queen? Yes, it is the Queen. Nice. That picture caused a bit of controversy because her hand looks a bit bruised

and all the newspapers went crazy about it. Right. Here's another one for you. Whose hand is that? Is that your hand? It's your hand. My, really? You don't recognise the back of your own hand.

No, no, I don't. No, no. Oh, I can see now the thumb because I bite my nail. Yeah, after I cropped it, I thought the thumbnail might give it away, but you didn't look close enough. I've just seen that. I've just seen that. Yeah, yeah. So, Tim, you don't even know the back of your own hand.

I will remember this next time someone's asking me directions and I say, oh, look, I don't need to look at a map. I know this place like the back of my hand. You can say, I know it like the back of Tom Hanks' hand. That's right. That seems to be it. You nailed that one. Like there was not even any doubt.

You even named the movie. I know where this podcast idea could go because it could be, you know how you write things on the back of your hand and on a particular day there's random things written there and you could just look at it and have to explain the story behind it. What's on the back of your hand at the moment what's going on with that where did it come from what's the backstory why are you remembering it and that could lead into i don't think that many people write on the back of their hand tim

really i don't i don't think that's as common as you think it is oh i do it all the time no i don't think most people don't do that really some people do but most people don't oh I often remember it like that if I'm on a phone call or something like that. Haven't you noticed when you walk around like Rundle Mole and stuff that not everybody has stuff written on the back of their hands? I don't go looking at people's hands, apart from Tom Hanks, obviously. Look, I had another idea for the direction this podcast could go, right? look i had another idea for the direction this podcast could go right because obviously this is a very visual thing we're doing at the moment which is probably not fantastic podcast material unless you're watching the youtube version in which case i hope you enjoyed that immensely but it did make me think another way we could take it is use the cliche use the saying i know

this like the back of my hand to ask people questions about things they should know really well to see if they really do. Okay. Yes. Very good. Are you ready for another quiz, Tim? Oh, no. I've written a few questions here about things that I think you should know a lot about, certainly judging from the way you speak. And I want to find out whether you really do or not. This is always a very fraught area. Things that you think I know a lot about or you think I should know a lot about.

Exactly. And of course, they're things I don't know much about. So writing the questions is almost impossible. But let's give it a go. I've come up with a few topics that I think you're a little bit into. And then I've just randomly come up with a question. I have no idea if these are fair questions or not. Right, okay, all right.

Let's start with Traralgon, all right? Yes. Your hometown that you often talk about. Here's a question about Traralgon. Described as Traralgon's most famous son, what was Sir Frank Macfarlane Burnett's claim to fame? Oh, I have absolutely no idea. You've never heard of him?

I've never heard that name ever. I always thought I was Terrelgan's favourite son. Who would you describe as Terrelgan's most famous son? I didn't know. We had a favourite son. We had Jack Jones, who went into Southern Suns, the rock band, like I mentioned. I have no... We had Jack Jones who went into Southern Sons, the rock band, like I mentioned. I have no idea. Well, he won the Nobel Prize for Medicine for his work on immunology.

So he was a Nobel Prize winner. Wow, from Turalyon. He was born in Turalyon. Gosh. The next question is from the field of theology. Now, I don't know much about theology, but I know that probably the... Who would you say is the most famous theologian? The most famous theologian?

Well, they're all different ones in different eras. No, famous. Who's the rock star of theology? Maybe John Calvin or John Wesley or St. Augustine or Martin Luther or Karl Barth. Yes. This question is about the fifth most famous theologian by the sounds of it, Karl Barth. He was on the cover of Time magazine, so I guess he's famous, but generally people have not heard of him.

Maybe I know too much about theology because I made all those Bible videos. Anyway, Karl Barth was born and died in the same city. What city was it? Now, he's Swiss. Yes, you get half a point. It was in Switzerland. So? Can you convert to a full point?

I should know this, and I don't. I can't think of it. I thought you might get it, because I know you know a bit about him. Do you want me to tell you? Yeah, tell me what it is. It was Basel. Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. Because he did a lot of wonderful teaching in Basel Prison, actually.

Even though he's a famous theologian, he went and taught, you know, a bit of theology and preached to prisoners. Oh, I thought you were going to say he taught them how to pick locks or something. The next question is about your employer. I don't mean God, I mean the Uniting Church. Right. In what year was the Uniting Church in Australia established? 1977.

Correct. Well done. Do you know the month? Do I know the month? No, I don't know the month. I think it was June, but I'm not sure. All right. Yeah, I think you're right.

I think you're right. I wrote all these questions off the top of my head, of course. The next question is about your beloved Richmond Football Club. This is an Australian rules football team in Australia, people. They're based in Melbourne. And the question is, what player has kicked the most goals for Richmond Football Club? I want to say Kevin Bartlett. He's high on the list, but he's not top.

Then I don't know. I can't think who it wouldlett. He's high on the list, but he's not top. Then I don't know. I can't think who it would be. It's someone called Jack Titus. No, I had not heard of him. The next question is about C.S. Lewis, and I'll give you, you can go one either side of this. How old was C.S. Lewis when he died? That's a really really good question and i don't think i know it i would hazard a guess that he was in his late 50s or early 60s but i he died in 63 he died the day jfk died he did yeah but i'm pretty sure he was born in the 20th century i don't remember his date of birth being in the 1800s so i i so he look i'll have to say early 60s you want to get you want to get a number because i said you can go one either side of it so you could still get the point here oh okay i

will say i'll say a little bit i'll think i will push further than i thought i will say 65 he was 64 so you get the point he was he was very nearly 65 i think he was just a couple of weeks away okay well done your next question is about nick cave the musician i love he just moving through these areas like this is the topics of my life every tim cliche i can think of what was the name of the post-punk band that Nick Cave fronted in the 1970s? Well, in the 70s, they were called The Boys Next Door. Then they changed their name to The Birthday Party. Correct. The Birthday Party is what I had.

So it sounds like you know too much. The Birthday Party, I'll give you a point for. Nice. All right. I've got a double-headed question now about Australian politics. What is the middle name of former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating? Paul Keating. Okay, so here's...

I don't think I know. But it's J. Yes, it is. I think it's PJ Keating. So let's say John. Correct. He's got it with a guess. Well played.

Good skills there to use the J. Well played. And for a bonus use the J. Well played. And for a bonus point, what is John Howard's middle name? Winston. Correct. All right. John Howard was another former Australian Prime Minister, by the way. Now, your final question.

This is about Dutch fathers. For those who are still listening. Which is you, Tim. Which is UTEM. This is Dutch fathers. What is the Dutch word for father? You know what? I don't think I know. Opa is for grandfather, but I don't know what it is for father.

I never used it, so I don't think I know. Do you know what it is? What? Vader, as in Darth Vader. Oh, okay. So it's quite German to the... Vata is in German. So your PhD supervisor is called your doctor father.

Your doctor father. I can't believe we've missed this opportunity all these years to have called your dad Dutch Vader. What an opportunity gone. Vader. No, Tim, I am your father. I am your father.

What's that it did dub dub you always put at the start of sentences by your dad? Yeah, dad will always go it did did when he was talking to me. It did dub dawn day. Here we go. Love it. The back of your hand. Things you should know really, really well. And Tim, I think you did pretty well there. So we're basically saying congratulations, Tim,

on knowing a few random facts about things that you know the most about. And now here are 15 questions about the solar system. Just another quick interruption. I want to let you know that we've made a more elaborate back-of-the-hand picture quiz exclusively for stakeholders. The first Patreon supporters to correctly identify all the hands will win a special prize. You can go to patreon.com slash unmade FM to check that one out. We're going to close the show with some sofa shop covers, if that's okay. Because to be honest, I'm falling so far behind.

I am getting all your covers, people. I have a folder full of them. I just can't burn through them quick enough. So today I thought we'd burn through a few. Now, in a very recent episode, Tim put a request out for a Smashing Pumpkins themed cover. And we heard from James who said, I heard Tim request someone to make a Surf Shop cover in the style of Smashing Pumpkins.

I'm not an amazing singer, but was able to get pretty close to the band's overall sound. I played and recorded the bass and guitars myself, the drums I programmed using the Addictive Drums software sampler. It was a blast to make. Hope you enjoy James and here it is. That is seriously impressive, isn't it? Yeah. Like, that's really well done.

Fantastic. Really smashing. I mean, the start was a pretty, you know, was a pretty straight rip, wasn't it? And then it kind of went off and did all sorts. I enjoyed it. I pay that. That's very impressive.

I'll pull back the curtain just a little bit, people. I don't think Tim even really wanted that, but pumpkin was his secret word in that episode from one of his daughters. It was. That is true. Yeah. I wanted it about as much as I wanted a toothbrush. All right, next song.

Now, very recently we played a cover of The Sofa Shop done in Greek, which we enjoyed, and now an email has come from Samuel, who said, Dear Tim and Dr Brady, my partner has covered The Sofa Shop in Macedonian. They are from North Macedonia, and they think this is their best work. So here it is, The sofa shop in Macedonian. Tim, I love that. I've listened to that lots of times. It's so sweet.

It's impressive. Yeah, it's cute. Yeah, good work. Man, there's just some good stuff, isn't it? Samuel's partner is called Amelia, I think, and I have had it confirmed that Provenicata Zacalci is Macedonian for shop for couches. And I love that it's got so many syllables that she has to really jam it in every time who would have thought the sofa shop was such a good muse i know i know i know i'm addicted to calling it couchy it sounds so cute oh shall we sit on the couchy? Couchy. Very nice. Very nice.

Thank you, guys. From that, it wasn't clear to me whether or not Emilia is a listener to the show or Samuel listens and just got Emilia, who is a musician, to make the cover. And that goes nicely to our next cover. This comes from Geordie, who is also a non-listener to the show. Here's what Geordie said. I'm Geordie from the Netherlands. As I'm actually not really listening to your podcasts, I'm sorry, but my girlfriend Hilda is, I often hear The Sofa Shop in the house in a lot of variations. I asked her what it was about and she told me all about the podcast. She's a big fan.

As I couldn't get the tune out of my head anymore, I know that story, I decided to make one of my own just for the fun. I couldn't find a good sample of the singer so I cut it up and stretched it into the beat. It's far from perfect, but hey, here's Geordie's version. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Super sharp. Here's Geordie's version. We have a sofa designed for you Choose your fabric, budget, garments too The sofa shop ain't gonna cost What you think it will Don't you do a thing until you see the soul push up

Got a rich tradition of Dutch music growing here on the show, haven't we? Now, final cover, Tim. I'd like to close the show with today's cover, if I may, because this has fast become one of my favourites, as you know. This is beautiful. This is a very impressive rendition. This is like in the sort of the genre of Colonel Lucy and it's up there with the Colonel Lucy cover as my favourites.

I'll read you what Jake said. This is Jake from Idaho. While procrastinating studying for finals today, I decided to make a sofa shop cover. It started as just a finger style guitar song, but I had too much fun adding other instruments along the way the acoustics in my dorm room are not good by any standard note to the computer fan in the background but it turned out better than expected overall before i play this tim i played this one to my wife earlier and we actually have a ban on me playing her sofa shop covers because it gets stuck in her head and ruins her day she gave me a dispensation today where i could play a review and uh and she said afterwards she noted she said for the size of your audience you have a disproportionate number of people who seem to be really talented at making music yeah am i is that

right like is is being good at making music more common than i realized because i'm sickened by how good all these people are making music well. Well, similar, as I said before, about the number of science people, particularly science, you know, postgrad or PhD students that listen, we do seem to have a lot of talented musicians as well. Incredible that they could have such incredibly refined taste in music and such poor taste in podcasts. It doesn't seem right. Indeed.

Indeed. So to play us out today with a cover of The Sofa Shop, here is Jake from Idaho. Sofa Shop The sofa shop Is your only stop For the sofa you need The sofa shop Yeah, come drop in

On Halifax Street We have a sofa designed for you Choose your fabric, match your curtains too Sofasher ain't gonna cost what you think it will So don't you do a thing until you see the sofa shop.