The Unmade Podcast - 91: Happy Wee

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

Tim and Brady discuss the census, paperboys, famous babies, flying doctors, dumb dogs, and crosswords. Go to Storyblocks for stock video, pictures and audio at https://www.storyblocks.com/unmade Hover - register your domain now and get 10% off by going to https://www.hover.com/Unmade Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/unmadeFM Join the discussion of this episode on our subreddit - https://redd.it/p3tkz7 The crossword section of today's episode is more engaging when you watch along on YouTube - https://youtu.be/3UlfTkTwkB8 USEFUL LINKS The Australian Census - https://www.abs.gov.au/census Nevermind - https://amzn.to/3lWrecw Three Men and a Baby - https://amzn.to/3xCLmCI Baby Superman article - https://www.supermanhomepage.com/revisited-the-mystery-of-the-uncredited-baby-kal-el/ The Royal Flying Doctor Service - https://www.flyingdoctor.org.au Pictures of Spoon of the Week - https://www.unmade.fm/spoon-of-the-week The Flying Doctors TV show opening credits - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfyxThcqF3I The Man From Snowy River - film - https://amzn.to/3sf9eez Jack Jones from Southern Sons - Mr Rebecca Gibney - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Thomas The Times - home of the The Times2 crossword, aka the concise crossword - https://www.thetimes.co.uk

Here's baby, you're going to earth! Have you been well? Have you been doing much? I'm pretty good, yeah. I actually last night filled out our census. Our country, it's census night tonight, but I got in early last night and did our census form. I remember when I was young, I was so excited by the census form. Like I thought it was just the most amazing thing. And now I imagine it probably feels a bit of a chore or was it fun? No, it was a chore. It's helped by being online. But once you've filled out a lot of details about yourself, you suddenly realise you now have to replicate all that information for everyone else in the

household and the novelty has worn off. So, yes. But I had a junior one sitting with me going through it and it was kind of interesting explaining why we do it or trying to think up reasons why we do it. Yeah, I was going to say, I'd like to hear your explanations as to why you do it. I'd say, well, the US Constitution says from time to time we will take a sample and we just sort of do what America does yeah you didn't do like the crazy thing that everyone loves doing and say that your religion was Jedi

no no I I I didn't think of it at the time I guess it's hard when you're a Christian minister that's right you can't lie I'm not actually a Jedi but but I um was yeah put down my church's denomination but I did think of that. And, yeah, there was a bit of eye rolling today at a coffee conversation as people were talking about that. I think that idea is a bit old now. Yeah. I wonder if when Luke Skywalker was doing the census before he had his second confrontation with Vader, he was like, well, technically I'm not a Jedi. I've done the Yoda stuff.

I don't know. That's right. It's like I haven't faced Vader again, but, yeah, I'm supposed to technically. There's someone with some bandsaw outside, and I swear they did not start it until we hit the record. It's like they were watching me. Hang on.

I'm just going to look out the window and see where they are. A bandsaw. I can hear it. I can hear it's miles away that's ridiculous do you want to do this again in an hour no i don't i'm hoping it won't be too you know how strongly are you hearing it i heard it when you opened the window no no it's all right it's not showing up heavily on the waveform so let's just let's persist and see what happens. I don't know that it's actually a bandsaw. It could be. It probably isn't a bandsaw. I don't know what it is.

It could be a hedge trimmer or it's some cutting device. Could you see it from the window or are you just. No, I can't. I can't see it. It's just reverberating. Hang on. That's a podcast idea. Roaming Brady.

Like where you just go roaming the neighborhood trying to track down the sand the sound of this bandsaw or this trying to track down what this sound is and just roaming describing where you are and and slowly the bandsaw noise gets louder and louder and louder i don't think that's that good what about just me grumbling about neighborhood noises like oh next door neighbor's dog oh the lawnmower it's just like that person's looking at me again why are they grumbling brady that that is that is a funny idea actually well i mean that's just me basically that's just being married to me basically so pretty soon yeah the grumbling bit would drop off and just fans would know it as brady so with the census was there any part what was the best fun part to

fill out was there any part where you felt you got to like you know express your personality in any way no it's very i mean it's of course it's technical you have to tell the truth that it's very technical there's a what there are a few bits where you have to do calculations when you're, you know, where were you living one year ago? Where were you living five years ago? And so, you know, just looking up that. Or just trying to remember, hang on, was it five or six or what was it? You then have to do your income.

So you're thinking, oh, what's included? Is that net or gross or is that, you know, including the government benefits for child support? Or is it not? Or, you know, so you... Do I put in that cheeky unmade podcast Patreon money? That's right. Yeah, strictly speaking.

Not that we get any Patreon money. The amount of money we spend on postage at the moment, sending stuff out to patrons. Making cool stuff and posting it around the world. It's just... Postage has gone bananas. Oh, my postage bill is crazy. The people... I'm a celebrity at the post office.

They treat me like royalty when I come in with my huge boxes of stuff. They've never asked me what it is. Do you have like a VIP lane? Like instead of having to line up? Yeah, I do. I have like this thing called Drop and Go. I have like this card that I put money on online and I just walk in and just dump all the stuff. Normally, if you're drop and go, you have to fill out a form and your card number and what you're sending.

But I don't have to do that now. I just walk in with this huge box of stuff and just put it on the counter and I go, hey, and walk away. I don't even have to say who I am or anything. And if there's someone new there, they're like, oh, you have to fill in this form. And then the lady who manages the post office goes, don't worry about him. Gives me a wink. She knows. She's obviously opened a package, seen the Unmade podcast, Spoon of the Week cards and gone, yep, I understand now.

You'd have a lot of fans. These are great. Or you probably bribed her with a few of them, like, here you go. A pack under the counter. I pay in sofa shop pins. So in all seriousness, why did you tell your girls you have to do the census? What did you say was the overriding reason? I said that the government needs to know, you know, who everyone is

and how many of us there are and what we're doing in order to be able to plan, right? How many roads do we need and how much do we need to spend on the hospitals and healthcare because of people's ages? And they ask the pretty fair question, which is, don't they know that already? Aren't they tracking how many people are born dying coming into the country and you know like it's not like my age has changed like i'm one year on five years on from last time you know 45 years on from when i was born but i guess it's a bit of a it's like a stock take in a way isn't it of all right where is everyone and what you what are you doing and yeah they can get all that information quickly rather than going to state departments

who know where you live and what you own and all that kind of stuff. Well, hang on, before I go on to what would make the census more fun, is there another overriding reason why we do a census? Like apart from knowing how many of us there are and confirming and... I guess a real major reason is to do with elections

and to make sure the numbers of people in different constituencies and things like that and there's the right representation in the parliament but that all comes under the broad heading of planning and stuff so i think i think your answer was a pretty good one it's interesting oh every time i do it i forget how personal it is like like you go into it thinking is it going to be oh there are two adults and two children in this house tonight you know but then you realize oh actually they want my name oh hello and then yeah and then is this is this okay i get well i guess the census you idiot of course it's okay and then they go into incomes like what's your income but but then details like you know you know the address and you're thinking am i jeez am i supposed to be putting all this in but you sort of give yourself over to it and think well who am i hiding this from like

this is the government they already know i exist like it would be more interesting if they asked our opinions about things like we could get surveys done and polls at the same time like what do you think about the weather you know like or like if you like, what are your 10 favourite albums? Yeah, that's right. Imagine how long you'd spend on the census then. Tim would spend weeks. He'd be knocking on the front door of Parliament House going, oh, I've changed my mind about number seven.

Can I change it, please? That's right, that's right. What's the best film you've seen in the last 12 months? What logical flaws do you think there are in the film Sliding Doors? You know, like... I tell you what, though, these documents are, like, kind of a big deal. In my wife's side of the family has a bit of a mystery to do with parentage of one of the relatives. And it's a bit of an unsolved mystery. And we have actually joined all those websites that you use to like, you know,

research family history to try and figure out who someone's parent was. And they actually release old census data after a certain number of years. And we were going back and looking at who was living in the house. And there was some man living in the house that night who had a different surname. And we were like, oh, could that be so-and-so's parent was so-and-so having an affair and so like in the future like you know long after you're dead people will be able to look at this document and go oh okay so those two people were living in that house that night and stuff so that's interesting what happens if your girls happen to be doing a sleepover that night at a friend's house do they get like recorded for all

eternity at someone else's house yes that's how's how it works. Yeah. They count who's staying under your house. Even though I filled it out last night, it's got to be for tonight, you know, how many people are under your roof tonight. A friend was telling me today about when they were on a massive expedition, like as a student, university student, and they were on the field, like doing a field trip, and they got caught in a storm and couldn't get out, and they all ended up, like, 25 of them all under one roof. And so they had to fill out the census form that night,

which apparently one of the senior lecturers had brought along. And back in those days, which was several decades ago, it had like a, you know, more patriarchal kind of language. So, it actually said, you know, who is the head of the household? And then, you know, and then who is married to the head of the household? And so, this senior lecturer say, well, tonight I'm head of the household to his 25 university students. And they all had to go on to the same form.

Who would you have put as head of the household if that was a question this year i think i i think it's pretty clear that it's my wife that's right jesus is the head of our household and he has delegated jesus nearly all his authority to my wife and i actually just spent the last three nights at a music festival uh with 30 000 other people staying in tents and caravans and that. What would have happened if that was census night? Yeah, you still have to fill it out. You fill it out wherever you are, yeah.

So what if you're in a tent? Well, it's a... What if you spend that night passed out in a puddle of mud because you're hammered at a music festival? Yep, that option was there. It's been a while since i clicked that option but that was there apparently you're supposed to do it and the other the question that i have and i don't i haven't even answered this question yet because the form because it's

online we got a letter weeks ago saying you know on this night you need to fill out the census go to this web address here's your code login password and away you go which i did fine halfway through doing it though one of my daughters said what about nan the famous mrs hein who's been on the podcast before she doesn't have the internet and i i'm thinking actually you're right i don't know i and i've actually forgotten to contact her it's tonight what what's she doing has she can you fill in the census form by crochet slowly knitting her answers yeah but i don't know if people over a certain age get posted a paper one or what happens so she may be missing out tonight i don't know i'll have to call her later

on or maybe they just know her because she because she calls up so often they're like oh you don't need to do it mrs side we know who you are like it's the local like my mum to the government is like you at the post office it's like oh yeah no we know her don't worry about it this is you don't need to fill it out the first time your dad did the census form it was actually literally just a roll call everyone just called everyone just had their name called out it's time went on it got more advanced and so at the time of christ there was the famous one where jesus had to go off to his family birth mary and joseph what about like i remember one time when i was living with my old housemate in adelaide and he went out one night and got really really drunk and when he got home

he couldn't find the keys to the house or he couldn't open the door and he couldn't wake me up. He actually just went and slept in the front yard on the grass. Would he count as being in the house that night in the census? What would that have been? What would the status of that been? I don't know. And of course, there are vast amounts of homeless people as well. And I wonder if people engage where they are. A lot of them, particularly around Adelaide, have regular places to sleep. So, i wonder if people engage where they are a lot of them particularly around adelaide have regular places to sleep so i wonder if the welfare services are involved in checking where people are they may not i mean depends how regular your housemate was getting drunk they may not have included him on their list it's like let's be sure to drive past the front yard no no no actually they did they sent a census form to our front yard.

I think he got woken up by the newspaper being thrown on him. That's a legendary paper boy that drives along at six o'clock in the morning, goes, yep, I'm aiming for that guy. I'll tell you a thing about paper boys. One of the great disappointments in life, because we get the paper delivered every day, right? So, we always talk about the paper boy. And for years, every Christmas, we would take like a card and like some money to the news agent to give to the paper boy. Like, you know, here's a 10 pounds and a Christmas card as well.

Yeah. But we never saw these boys who were delivering the papers. We just knew they had the names. It was, you know, Dan and Bill or something like that. Yeah. And it was only years later because, you know, I'm not up early very often, so I never get to see the paper boy. It's only in recent years that I've started seeing the people delivering the newspapers. And they're actually like men in their 50s.

And it's kind of disappointing. And also, I feel a bit silly now saying, you know, dear Danny, thanks for delivering our papers this year. Here's five pounds. And I'm giving it to like some 50-year-old man. You're leaving out sweets for him and stuff. Paper boys are very rarely boys these days. Our current paper boy pulls up in a car and just walks up to our front door with the newspaper every morning. You know, I was a paper boy before. I think I've mentioned this on the podcast previously. It was in the afternoon, thank goodness, three nights a week. And I'd had 100 papers to deliver in my area on my BMX.

Dad used to help me out, which is pretty amazing, on his bike. Although one day it gave him a heart attack and he had to go home early. I had to deliver those papers it's heaps annoying but i remember when it was hot and you'd sweat like crazy on a really hot day and of course so the ink runs everywhere you know on your hands and i'd come back with black all over my face and arms and hands and all that kind of stuff. It was real work. Oh, hard yakka.

I didn't get any tips or sweets or extra money or anything like that. You're a lovely, kind patron. Yeah. Well, you know, thanks. Ideas for a podcast. I've got one at the end, but I've got a quick one now. Yeah. How's this for a podcast, Tim?

It's called Where Are The Babies? Right. This is a podcast tracking down the fate, the destiny, whatever happened to all the babies you see in movies and TV shows. Yeah. all the babies you see in movies and TV shows. Yeah. Not child actors, because they often become actors. And also, they already kind of look like people and stuff.

So, that's less interesting. I'm talking absolute babies, you know, like newborns and stuff. Because you so often see newborns in films. Someone has a baby. Oh, you get all emotional. Yeah. And you see this baby for 10 seconds you know it just looks like all babies let's be honest i'm sorry people but all babies look the same so you you see a brief shot of a baby come on they do though don't they i get so frustrated

when people see like an absolute newborn baby and go oh look oh look, oh, he has your nose. Oh, she has your eyes. They don't. All babies are just round and pudgy and they all look the same. And after about six months, yes, they do start looking like their genetic forebears. But newborn babies all look the same. So, I would like to see a podcast that goes into whatever happened to that baby in that film the famous one is that baby on the cover of is it never mind the nirvana album everyone always loves whatever happened to that whatever happened and it's that the fate of that boy is well known he's like you know he's

almost famous for being not famous and people tracking him down but there were lots of other babies in movies and tv shows and things like that I'd be curious just to see what happened to them, whatever came of them. Whether they feel like they peaked too early in life. And it's been the dark and hard side of Hollywood life ever since. The one that comes to my mind straight away is that 80s film, Three Men and a Baby. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do remember it.

Tom Selleck, Ted Danson,on steve gutenberg i think it was yeah the other one and i think the baby was on the um cover of like on the film poster as well i can picture the cover of the video so yeah they sort of immortalized you know what i mean like it's oh here we go there's you when you were young being held by tom selleck and ted danson you know i'd like to know what happened mean? Like it's, oh, here we go. There's you when you were young being held by Tom Selleck and Ted Danson, you know. I'd like to know what happened to the baby that Marlon Brando has at the start of Superman. So when they're still on Krypton and we see baby Superman being put in that spaceship to be sent off the planet before the planet is destroyed. Is that Marlon Brando? Yeah.

Wow. Oh, I didn't know that. He got like some, he set some world record for that movie for the most amount of money per minute on screen or something. It's been so long since I saw Superman that I, the original Superman, I don't even, I don't think I even knew who Marlon Brando was when I saw it. I was just a kid. No, I didn't when I first did as well. Yeah. Does he play it all tough like the Godfather?

Like, here's baby, you're going to earth. He is quite a great father figure. did as well. Yeah. Does he play it all tough like the Godfather? Like, who's baby you're going to earth? He is quite a great father figure. Yeah. Yeah. They use him again in the later Superman movie. He gets used. They use some of that old footage in. Anyway, I digress.

The baby is what we're talking about, not Marlon Brando. No, that's right. Although, if we are going to digress, one of the bad guys in that is gene hackman is that right he's like yes yeah he's lex luther in yeah yeah he's been in everything hasn't he gene hackman lex luther is famous for being bold as a character in the comic and subsequent people who play him usually play him as bold but gene hackman refused to shave his head and be bold when he was cast in superman so there is a scene where he's bold he takes off a wig but that's just him wearing like a bald cap thing but he he wouldn't shave his head for the film can i say i

i what while we're on gene hackman which i don't know how we got onto gene hackman but he he has the most telling smile like gene hackman has in all these films he sort of has this most telling smile. Like Gene Hackman has in all his films, he sort of has this sort of smile, which is kind of, I see what you're saying there, but I know more and you know that I know more and something sinister is going to happen. You know, he's got this sort of, he's got such a way about him, Gene Hackman. I really enjoy him as an actor, which is just as well because he's in every second movie. Which is just as well because he's in every second movie. I was doing a little bit of, like, during my eight and a half seconds of research. Eight and a half seconds of research is probably a good name for our podcast. I did check out a little bit about babies in movies and they very often use twins.

Ah, yes, yes. As newborn babies, but not for the reason you think. I bet I know what you think the reason is. Oh, there's probably some the reason i think is that there's some union law for actors about the amount of hours they can spend on set or yeah and being able to interchange and that's a and that's the smart guess but the actual reason they very often use twins to play newborns is that twins are normally smaller than most babies when they're born. And if the baby's smaller, that makes them look more like a baby. Because apparently, the camera adds, you know, a few pounds even to babies. And babies look older than they should. So, they want the smallest possible

baby they can get away with. So, twins are smaller and also because they're smaller, they last longer. So, you've got a longer window of weeks or months in which you can use them. So, twins are much sought after for that reason. That makes sense. I know the other question you want to know the answer to, and that is who gets the money? And in America, normally the baby will end up getting the money because there are laws to do with protecting young people who earn money in movies. But in the UK, it's usually just the parents to decide what happens to the money. The parents often will just keep the money for themselves for hiring out their baby as a prop.

So, in America, they have to put the money into a particular trust that's held for the child. Yeah, I think there's this law that I think that's named after Jackie Coogan, the child actor, because Jackie Coogan's parents or guardians or something siphoned off all the money that was earned. Yeah, yeah. So because of that, there are laws in America to make sure the kids keep the money. Interesting. Babies. Where are the babies?

What happened next to that baby? Hi, I'm Brady Haran. You probably don't recognize me but i played you know the young luke skywalker or i was the baby you can imagine some people dining out on that it's a it's a wonderful thing to be able to say as long as you're not trying to build a life on it right like you had this one moment and you forever bringing it up like you have a calling card for it yeah if you're going on and you're living a different life it is a pretty

cool thing to say when you're at one of those events at work or something let's go around the room and introduce ourselves and just say something interesting about us you know what's our favorite color and something interesting about where we come from and say, well, you know. I was baby Superman. Yeah, that's right. That's like, you're kidding me. I'm not. And you've got to pull out a picture or people would Google it and go, oh, I can see the resemblance.

And your theory about them all looking the same goes down the gurgle. It is. There is something especially pathetic about your claim to fame being something that you literally can't remember and you had no say in whatsoever doing. That's right. That is a pretty tenuous claim to fame. You gotta see the baby. What's that? What's that from?

That is from Seinfeld. Jerry, you gotta see the baby. You know, when he's bantering on about the enthusiasm of people to come and see their new baby. Right. I'm sorry, I don't remember that one. Sorry about, I apologise for the Seinfeld reference. That's all right.

It's been a while. It has been a while. I see there's a Seinfeld Lego set out. I was wondering if you were considering getting that. I had not seen that. Yeah, it's like the set, it's the set of Seinfeld. It's Jerry's apartment. Oh, that's quite cute.

I might consider that for one of my daughters, who's probably just heard me say that on the podcast now. And the present's spoiled. As if it's really for one of your daughters. Why don't you just get it for yourself? Because that's a bit weird to buy. Who buys Lego sets as an adult? Oh, no, sorry, man.

Sorry. Moving on. I'm looking at two of them right now. I don't make them. I've got this incredible collection of Lego sets, and I haven't made any of them yet. I just got the Lunar Lander and the World Map, for those who are wondering. Yeah, they're cool.

I like that. Can I just, on the World Map one, the World Map doesn't look very detailed, though. Does it go more detailed than it appears? Well, I don't know. It's,'s i don't know it looked a bit easy is it like lego or lego junior like is it no it's grown up all right uh let me see if there's an age on it hang on 18 plus oh yeah it just looked i remember looking at it going oh that's a bit it's a bit young for brady but maybe he's just hang on let me count let me count how many lego studs across australia is hang on i'm just grabbing it

so australia is one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen studs across so i mean it's not super detailed, but it's pretty like, you know, it's hard to, you're going to have to pay a lot of attention to get it right. I'm not going to have to do anything. You're going to do this. No. All right. Let's talk about one of our sponsors today, Tim.

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I am a Hover fan, but I wonder if it's not just the place to register domain names. What if it was also the place to register domain names what if it was also the place to register baby names like hover branched out and well i mean before tim goes too far off pisteer people it's supposed to be a sponsorship message for a service that actually exists let me what you could do a good use Hover would be registering your baby's name on Hover when it's born as a domain name. So, like, if I had a child named, you know. Travis. Travis.

Travis Harron. I would, the day Travis was born, go to Hover and register TravisHarron.com. Because not only then could Travis have that later in life, I could use that in the early years maybe as a website or a place to post baby pictures for the family and stuff like that. But also, that'd be a nice gift as well if you know someone who's just had a baby, register the baby name as a domain and then give it to your friend as a gift. Here's a little surprise.

It's so hard buying presents for people who have babies these days. How about that? That's a good idea. I bet Sting wishes his parents had done that. It's like when he was born. Let's get sting.com. There we go. Sting.com.

What's Sting's real name? It's Gordon Sumner, isn't it? That's exactly right. Well done. Gordon. Yeah. That's Gordon. That's an interesting name for a child.

If you had to choose between Travis and Gordon, which one would you go? I'd take Travis out of those two. Travis is a i don't i wouldn't opt for gordon no getting back to hover just briefly sorry hover um hover's great right it's easy to use i'm not i can't go into all the features now but one thing that has been really coming up a lot for me this week is their renewal system because when you register a domain for a year or three years or whatever, you can set it to renew automatically. So when it expires, it will just renew it for you and you pay the next very fair fee for the domain name. Or you can set it to not renew and just lapse. Maybe you had some brilliant idea you thought was going to be

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Hover.com slash unmade. You happy with that? I'm very happy. Well done, man. And thank you, Hover. Yeah? Thank you. Thank you, Hover.

Which doesn't, it isn't the place you have to technically go to register baby names, by the way, despite that tangent Tim momentarily took us on. Well, the internet is becoming so vast. So, what if you have to register your baby in the real world and then you had to register them online as well? Like, as like a whole other- Yeah, your virtual baby. Yeah. Your iBaby. Your i baby. Yeah. Your eye baby. Your eye baby.

What are we doing next? Spoon of the Week, is it? Oh, okay. All right. Well, let me fire up the theme tune on the count of three here. One, two, three. Spoon of the Week. three i don't know i don't know how i haven't gotten to this spoon beforehand i really love this spoon this is a really good looking spoon but it's also it's deeply

meshed um impressed uh present in my own memory because I remember when we got this spoon with mum and dad. So this is from my vintage. The spoon is of the Royal Flying Doctor Service, which is a wonderful, wonderful service in Australia. Australia, as many of you may appreciate but not fully appreciate, is massive, really big. It's like 16 lego blocks wide was it 16 or 14 i can't remember i don't know but it's it's it's very large big um it's

a big country makes texas look like you know small and so there's lots of people who live out on outback stations which is sort of australian term for you know farms you know ranches if you like out in the middle of nowhere and so to get a doctor when an emergency happens they can't just call a regular ambulance so they call the flying doctor the flying doctor flies in yeah and so most of these ranches have their own airstrip and everything where people land so it's a wonderful wonderful service another thing the royal flying doctor service does of course is they like they go and do clinics won't they they'll go to some town where people congregate and just be like the GP for the day. And people can just have normal checkups too.

It's not like they're always going and, you know, emergency saving lives. They'll go and just do health checks as well. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take the doctor surgery out to the people. Yeah, strategically move across or pick up someone who's having a baby. So, and, you know, get them to hospital if they need to or be there for the birth and all the rest of it.

Log them on to Hover if they need. That's right. Help them register domain. Yeah. Hover.com slash unmade. So this is a spoon of the Royal Flying Doctor Service, which is, you know, it's it's a very good-looking spoon. It's round.

It's very dignified, very classy. That's right. It does feature the word royal, as many of the institutions in Australia historically do. Talk us through the spoon. Well, it's round at the top, and the enamel bit has a beautiful image on it. I actually need a bit of light here. A little bit more light I'm seeing.

It's just the logo of the Royal Flying Doctor Service, which is just a really classy logo. Yeah, with some lovely wings. Yeah, it's got wings on it. Hang on, I've got kids at the door sending stuff through the door for me. Hang on, let me pause for a minute, man. All right, I've just got a little note that's come in the door which says yeah poop he he very good very mature from my wife i tell you i thought she was more great that's just ridiculous hang on there's another one all right i've got

another note ah here's this is some words. Hmm. Okay. So I'll see if I can slip these words in at some stage during. I've had the bandsaw outside stop and now the next door neighbor's dog is howling. Spoon. Spoon, which has, look, it has beautiful silver. It's very, very much like you imagine royal crests to look. And it comes down with a lovely even balanced sort of pattern down the stem nice stem one of the nicest stems i've seen i agree and it comes down to the

scoopy bit which is both a round but it comes to a point a bit like a at the bottom of a heart and you said you remember the genesis of this spoon yeah we went on a family holiday with our caravan and car up to Broken Hill and Silverton and those sorts of areas, which are, this is from Victoria, where we're living up further into sort of New South Wales. And we went to visit like the Royal Flying Doctor Service, sort of museum and centre, you know, where you see the history and get to have a look at all sorts of souvenir stuff and i was really impressed by it and i was particularly

excited about it because i was watching the television program the flying doctors do you remember the flying doctors Don't start me on how much I loved The Flying Doctor. One of my second true love in life was Rebecca Gibney. Oh, me too. She was in The Flying Doctor. Do you know who my first love was ever? Who? Because obviously this is dating back to a time when we're just starting to understand that, you know, women are attractive creatures, right?

Yeah. And my first love was from a film that I re-watched two days ago because I stumbled over on Disney Plus. And I could talk for hours about my experience re-watching this film. Yes. And that is The Man from Snurry River. Yes. Sigrid Thornton playing Jessica. Jessica.

Oh, and I fell in love with her all over again. I love the men from Snowy River as well. I love the music. I love that film. I forgot how much I loved it. And it was so different watching it through adult eyes. I'll talk to you about it another time, but it was so different. Things that scared you that don't scare you anymore, but you remember being scared of them.

Things that you thought you understood, but you understand in a whole new light watching it as an adult and stuff. Oh, I loved re-watching that film. Loved it. But The Flying Doctors also, the TV show, it was kind of like a soap opera set, you know, amongst the flying doctors out in the country. And, you know, you had the adventures of them being doctors, but also the interpersonal romances between the- Yeah, yeah. The radio guy. And then there's the nurses.

Then there's the local pub and all that. It's fantastic. Oh, yeah. Maury Fields was the publican, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And he's forever behind the bar. And everyone ends up there at the end of the day and has a meal.

And then there's, remember there's the sort of the farmer who owns many properties, the really wealthy farmer who was just a little bit stiff, you know, his boots were just a little bit too shiny and he was what I've heard described as he was all hat and no cattle, you know, one of those guys. So I remember in The Flying Doctors, like it was like a classic episode that stopped the nation

because remember the pilot of the plane for The Flying Doctors was played by Peter O'Brien. Oh, yeah, yeah, Peter O'Brien. Lovely, lovely mullet, yeah. Yeah, huge mullet. And he had this will-they-or-won't-they relationship with Rebecca Gibney, who was a car mechanic, wasn't she, in the town? Yeah, yeah.

And for some reason, Rebecca Gibney was on the plane with him and they had a crash and he was in a really bad way and she had to, like, keep him alive through the night with, like, a handheld ventilator, keeping, like, squeezing the handheld ventilator to keep air going into his lungs and, like, will he die without, you know, them ever getting together and stuff that was such a dramatic episode oh i remember just being absolutely captivated by it that's nice but there's no

there's no one in australia that doesn't know what you mean when you say victor charlie charlie this is mike sierra foxtrot yeah that's right yeah i can't hold a walkie talkie without doing it that's right absolutely i saw one of the actors in person a couple of years ago so robert grubb who plays one of the doctors yeah and i i saw him i was gonna mention him next oh it was so cool um he was on the set of another show being made you know just in around Parliament House and nearby in Adelaide. And I saw him at like the lunch event. And it was just amazing. I was a little bit starstruck for someone who's not a big star

but who was a big star on TV when I was a kid. And I was tempted to sort of go and say g'day, but I didn't. Do you know, there's a funny coincidence. A few weeks ago on an episode I talked about, I've mentioned Jack Jones from Southern Sons who grew up in Turalgon. Yes. Well, he ended up marrying Rebecca Gibney. Did he?

Yes, yes. Living the dream. I didn't marry her, but someone from Turalgon did. And that's, I think, like I i said i partly own that it's like i feel like we all i'm just looking up to see whether sigrid did sigrid thornton marry someone from uh taralgon oh that'd be a coup i don't think they're still married unfortunately so no well you know she she found out he was from taralgon. It's funny to think with The Man from Snowy River, which is a great Australian movie, and those who are not familiar,

you can Google it and find it because it's beautiful. Like horses, it's all in the 19th century and in the beautiful highlands of New South Wales and stuff, based on a very famous poem, which is like a classic, probably the most famous Australian poem, called The Man from Snowy River by Banjo Patterson. But it also has Kirk Douglas in it. And it's only later in life you realise, wow,

that's a big Hollywood star to get to our little Australian film at the time. He plays two characters in it. He plays brothers, but anyway. Yeah, and the penny only dropped for me that on about the tenth time I watched it, like, oh, that's the same character. Like doing the twin well something i didn't realize is that one of the characters in the film like because i was a kid like when you're a kid you didn't realize the film was based on a poem and one of the characters in

the film is banjo patterson he's like this sort of he's like the lawyer for the he's like he's like just an observer he's there sort of observing things. Oh, hi, you know, I'm Mr. Patterson and stuff like that. And you don't realise that he's like, you know, to an adult, that's obvious, like it's almost gratuitous. But this was the first time I'd watched it and realised, oh, Banjo Patterson's a character in the film as well. So, he's seeing all this happen as inspiration for his poem he would write later. Oh. I've never picked that up either. No. Oh, yeah, there's lots of...

When you watch it now, there's lots of stuff like that that you're like, ah. But it was really good after a bit of a cringey first five or ten minutes. It was actually quite a good film. It was like watching a Jane Austen, like Pride and Prejudice type thing. Because I really like watching Pride and Prejudice. And it was a lot like that. It was like an Australian Pride and Prejudice type thing. Because I really like watching Pride and Prejudice. And it was a lot like that. It was like an Australian Pride and Prejudice with horses. I'm more of a sense and sensibility man myself.

But yes, no, I know what you mean. Nice spoon, Flying Doctors. Now, of course, there is another even more famous spoon that is available to the chosen ones. And that is our Unmade Podcast souvenir spoon. And each episode we select a Patreon supporter, a.k.a. a stakeholder, who will win one of these spoons. And this week we are sending a spoon to North Carolina to Janelle.

Janelle from North Carolina, you are the lucky winner of a souvenir spoon congratulations keep an eye on your postbox i was just wooing oh you got a woo nice all right think things that make you go and 10 more people are going to receive a smattering of spoonoon of the Week collector cards, the craze that is sweeping the planet. And those people are Ryan W. from Utah, Alan G. from Sweden, Richard V. from Cambridgeshire in the UK, Richard D. from Washington State. We've got a double Richard there.

It's a nice move, the double Richard. Then we have Jacob M. from Sweden, Arindam from London, Paul Mc from California, Uli from Switzerland, Dan T. from Queensland in Australia, and Ben W. from the USA. You all have cards coming your way.

Congratulations. If you'd like to support us on patreon go to patreon.com slash unmade fm there's a link in the notes and you're in the running for all sorts of other stuff and prizes and bonus material and little things we do on the side so do consider it three of those uh card winners tim have won cards before. So, you know. Wow. You can always double up. They are blessed.

They are blessed. Yes. I hope they don't get too many duplicates. You can end up with duplicates in this way, but that just is good for trading. They can trade them. That's right. Oh, yes.

Have you done any card trades yet? No. No. No. One of my daughters has those. She does it all the time yeah because she bumps into colonel katrina and they do a bit of exchanging and stuff like that pretty serious stuff it is right um but yeah yeah so i'm i have to stand back and just allow that to happen and not not not express my opinions but it's um it's pretty serious. Does Colonel Katrina drive a hard bargain? She does, yes.

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Little do they know we're just reading the text they sent us. So thank you, storyblocks what's your idea for a podcast oh look this is an interesting this is a bit of a wacky idea as well but it's it was generated through the conversation with another member of the family but it's it's a bit of one of those podcast ideas that I think fanatics could get seriously into. This podcast is called How's My Puppy Coming Along? Right. And this is a podcast idea. Sorry, man, that's already been invented.

It's called Instagram. I guess that's it. I can't believe in the year that we've owned Brooklyn, how many conversations I've had with people about Brooklyn, like and how he's coming along in every detail of his life. And whenever I meet up with other people that also own a puppy, like they want updates and they want detailed updates on what's happening with Brooklyn and how's he going with this and what does he do under these circumstances and under those.

And I literally think I get more comments and questions about Brooklyn than I did with either of the babies that we had back in the day. Yeah. Maybe because they progress so slowly, but Brooklyn progresses, you know, enormously and there's discipline issues almost immediately. Don't be offended by your dad questioning the speed of your development girls i think you're fantastic

i mean in in defense of your girls brooklyn can't speak he's still at that sort of baby sign language stage at the moment so tell me about this podcast it's just well i think I know what this podcast is. It's people just talking about their dogs. No, no, it's not just just people. Don't poo-poo my idea before I've even started it. Man, I'm not poo-pooing it. Do you know anyone who talks about their dog more than me?

This is it, you and Audrey, that's right. Please. I wondered about a podcast that walks through the life of your puppy In intricate detail So much so that everyone can listen And be fully up to date With almost day by day progress On the activities of their puppy

They almost write an ongoing running memoir For the progress of the puppy Like oh he did Because we do this in our family all the time Oh did he poo outside today? No. Has he eaten? Oh, yeah.

No, he hasn't eaten. And then we turn to the dog. Brooklyn, why haven't you eaten? Yes. We left this here. We always ask Audrey where she went for her walk today when she went out with the dog walker, like she's going to answer us. Where did you go today?

What happened? How sensitive are you about me saying things about your dog? Like, am I only allowed to say nice things about your dog? You can say whatever you like. All right. Then I will. So, I don't know exactly what breed Brooklyn is. But when someone asks me what breed Brooklyn is, I answer with, you know that new fluffy crossbreed that everyone gets

that's like a little bit stupid? It's one of those ones. Those kind of dogs that have been bred not with intelligence in mind, but like just big fluffiness. Sort of clumsy and playful and lovely. I wouldn't want Brooklyn as my partner on a quiz show. He's a sheepadoodle. Yeah.

That's what I'd say. Yeah. Dumb doodles are these new, you know, these. We live next door to one of these dumb doodles and they've got like, they've got the brainpower of like a light bulb. But very fluffy and lovely. I always wonder, I said to one of the kids today, actually, I said, I wonder how Brooklyn would describe our life, like our family, if he could talk.

Like, what's his perspective of what's going on? Yeah. It's like they head off in the morning and then they come back and they're all excited, but then they're immediately annoyed with me. And it's like, because he's so excited to see us, he does like a little happy wee on the ground does he still do happy ways he still does a very slight one and it's like oh man so so whoever's not getting the massive bounding affection because everyone comes through the door oh brooklyn it's great to see you and there's hugs and everything but then whoever's not getting the big cuddle is the one that says, oh, careful, he's going to weep.

Look, there he is, he's weed. Do you do a happy wee every time I call you for the podcast? Every time the podcast comes out. Happy wee. I hope all the stakeholders across the world do a happy wee when we appear in their feed. When they win an unmade spoon. Oh, yeah.

Oh, that's it. That's definitely happy wee material. I would have thought Brooklyn might have grown out of happy wees by now. Oh, well, you would think so, wouldn't you? But no. I guess must be in some ways a compliment to us. Like he's so, even though he's growing up and maturing as a dog he's so happy to see us so we're obviously wonderful owners no it's an insult to you can i tell you what you have to do why not

go into high pitch super happy voice every time you walk in the house yes i know and discipline him when he jumps up on you yes yes having, it's very hard to monitor and regulate the high-pitched excitement. Yeah. And it's not a very popular moment as a dad to get all discipline-oriented, like walked in the door, oh, well, right, right, that's it. No, you can't do that. You can't be that guy.

Mr. Wet Blanket. Your dad could have done it. Oh, yeah. No, it would have been natural. I can't be that guy. Mr. Wet Blanket. Your dad could have done it. Oh, yeah. No, it would be natural. I'm not sure why they call me Mr. when I'm their father. But anyway, just a wet blanket. All right. I'll keep an eye out for your dog podcast.

I don't mind it. It's all right. It's a bit like I'm having these conversations anyway. Yeah. I may as well be writing this down or collating it or putting it into something because I know I'm going to be talking about the dog as long as the dog is with us. Well, recording conversations and things that happen anyway is a really nice segue to my podcast idea, if I may. Go. All right.

Are we done with the dogs? Yes, we're done with the dogs. We're done with it. For now. For now. Brooklyn is a very lovely dog, by the way. I make disparaging comments about his intelligence, which I stand by, but he's a lovely dog. There is something endearing about a dog that's kind of smart.

Like, remember Snoopy? Snoopy used to wear like a leather jacket and be sort of pretty cool and indifferent to things. Give me a dumb dog any day of the week. That's one of the things I love about dogs is when they're a bit dumb, when they can't figure things out. Like a dog that's really smart and knows where the food's hidden and all that sort of stuff and learns how to open doors and that. Yes, I will look at that dog and admire their intelligence

and think that is a truly intelligent dog. Isn't it a wonderful animal? But there's something really cute about a dog that just can't figure out isn't isn't it a wonderful animal but there's something really cute about a dog that just can't figure out a simple task because it's too simple like it just makes you massive ears are getting in the way or something yeah it just makes you feel more love for them and care and like oh they need care and love because they're just simple all they want is all they want is a hug and help You don't own a dog because you want some self-sufficient animal that is completely interdependent of you.

You get a dog because you just want love and, like, just attention and a bond. Ah, give me a dumb dog any day. My idea for a podcast. Well, Tim, where do you stand on crosswords? I never do them. Never, ever, where do you stand on crosswords? I never do them. Never, ever, ever. I wouldn't imagine you do because of the sort of attention span required.

How can you take a leisure choice of mine and turn it into... You just don't seem like a crossword kind of guy. So anyway, and I probably haven't, traditionally I probably haven't been either, but my wife and I probably in the last year or so have gotten into doing the crossword in the London Times over dinner at Chief. Oh, yeah, very famous one, isn't it?

Yeah, it's good. We don't do the cryptic one because I don't like cryptic crosswords. It's just we do one called the times two crossword. We usually do it maybe while I'm cooking dinner or usually while we're having dinner. Like as we start dinner, we'll do the crossword and we'll normally finish it just after we finish dinner. And it's fun.

I think it's probably good for our brains and it's good. It's a nice thing to do together as a couple. It's always good to have something to do. And it's just become a nice little ritual. And we were talking the other day about whether or not it would make a podcast to listen to people doing the crossword together. Because when my wife does the crossword with her mum, I quite like listening to them do it, you know, and then they'll ask me for help and I'll chime in occasionally. But is there something interesting about listening to people doing a crossword? It's interesting watching people do puzzles on the train or the bus and stuff, isn't it?

You look over their shoulder as they do it. What would it be like listening over the shoulder of a couple as they do the crossword each day? We wondered whether this would make a good podcast. What are your thoughts? Well, I think anything that involves quiz questions of some kind being said out loud and then enough space for you to chime in is enjoyable. I really like that idea.

Getting frustrated when they can't get it right, but you know the answer as well is a classic. Yeah. Oh, you idiots. That's so simple. It's a classic. Yeah. Oh, you idiots. That's so simple. It's elephant. Oh. Yeah, yeah. How do you not know that?

I think people like lording it over other people with their superior knowledge. Yeah, I do. I mean, I love a quiz television program and getting in quick and saying the answer and then, you know, that feeling of superiority when they get it wrong. Yeah. You know, that feeling of superiority when they get it wrong. Yeah. This could really work if there was a couple of people with great personalities, which I'm not saying you guys don't have great personalities.

No, no. It would really work if your wife was to find someone else to do it with who was really entertaining and interesting. Well, Tim, let me tell you, we did it. Two nights ago, we recorded ourselves doing the crossword. Really? Yes. And? So what I was thinking I would do shortly to end this podcast

is play that, if I may. Well, hang on a second. Well, so that's interesting, and I look forward to hearing it, but how self-conscious, how much did you vary your normal conversation? Here's what I think about that. My answer to that is not enough. Not enough. Like I almost, yeah.

So I don't think we've got it right yet, which is not a good way to entice people to listen. But the reason I'm going to put it at the end of the podcast is that you know you can stop listening if you don't want to listen and not and there will be no more of me and tim afterwards so this will be the end of the podcast when i play it so you know you don't have to labor through it to get more of the nuggets of gold from tim and i but my reflect but my reflections on it before i play it is that I think I, and we always thought this, we thought it'll probably take us, you know,

three or four goes to figure out the tone and how to get it right. And bear in mind, this is just our first attempt, no planning, no playing to it. And I think we need to, I think we need to play it up a bit more. We almost did it just, we almost just did it too naturally. Like it was just us doing the crossword, how we always do it. So, I think there needs... We did make sure we said the clues out loud and how many letters there were more than we normally would, because we were aware that that would be helpful to listeners.

And I will put pictures on the screen on the video for people who want to watch the crossword being done. And it probably needed more jokes and tangents and side conversations. We didn't do that. We deliberately didn't go, you know, if the answer was elephant, we didn't talk about a funny story about an elephant or something. I think a finished version of the podcast would benefit from that. This is very much just us doing the crossword and trying to figure things out. One more thing I'd like to say from the start is, as is always the case, we make mistakes.

So, sometimes we put in an answer and it turns out later we figure out that the answer was incorrect and we change it and switch it up. So, we will lead you down a few blind alleys. And sometimes, you know, you'll accidentally read two down instead of two across. So, it was very much the natural experience of us getting it wrong and fixing our mistakes. And there's also, here's an Easter egg, there's one answer we get wrong that we never realise is wrong because it still fits. So see if you can figure out what the one we got wrong was. And also, a little disclaimer, the next night we didn't record,

we did the crossword in record time with no mistakes before we even finished our dinner. But of course we didn't record that one. We recorded one where we blunder around and muck it all up. So what happens with the Times? Do they give the answers the next day? Yeah, it's the next day. But what you can do is obviously Google answers, right?

And there are actually websites that specialise in crossword clue answers. But also, because the Times is such a in crossword clue answers but also because the times is such a popular crossword by the time we do the crossword so many people have googled the answer that google will suggest that as one of the clues so say the clue was uh you know big gray animal animal with a trunk right if you write big gray into google it will it will suggest did you mean big gray elephant with a trunk crossword clue and you'll be able to get the answer really quickly so um yeah and at the end of each crossword as you'll hear we give ourself a verdict well my wife gives the final verdict as to how well we did it will be a tick of various sizes depending on how well

we did so the best we can get is a great big tick that covers the whole crossword. That's if we get everything right and we didn't Google any answers and we did it really quickly and well. Medium-sized tick, small tick if maybe we Googled one or two, and then it can also move to crosses. If we have a stinker, you can get a small cross, big cross. So, you'll have to listen to this to find out whether we get a tick or a cross and how big the tick or the cross is all right so this is intriguing yeah let me tell you it's more intriguing than doing a finder word on a podcast sudoku would be quite a mentally taxing listen as well three plus three or seven we're missing a seven to the right of the eight um yeah i don't know there's another one it's a first attempt it's a first attempt i think i

still think this idea has potential and this is just a first attempt without like without making without really going into full entertainer mode does it have a name this, this podcast idea? Oh, that's a good idea. I haven't actually thought of that yet. Just Crossword is a good name, isn't it? I don't know. Yeah, just Crossword. The Crossword podcast or something. Crossword podcast.

Daily Crossword. I don't know. I haven't thought about the name yet, to be honest. If you could do this regularly enough that people would do the crossword with you, I think this could become quite popular, actually. Yeah. People say, do you do the crossword in The Times? And they say, oh, well, actually, I like to do it with this podcast.

And, you know, so maybe it's later the same day it goes up or the next day you're one day behind and it becomes a thing that people follow along with. The problem is, though, crosswords are normally done in a weird order because there'll be ones you don't know, so you'll jump to other areas of the crossword to try and fill that area out to get yourself some letters to build back up to where you were. And everyone does that in a different way. So if there's one you don't know but the listeners do and things like that,

you would naturally end up going through different routes. You would go through very different paths. So that might make it hard to do along but i i see potential in that i don't know what rights issues you'd get into as well with like the times and the publishers of the crosswords but i don't know how you'd work that out which you obviously haven't done for this one i think i think we're pretty safe for just a one-off suggestion idea. I think we're on fair ground there. So, are you ready?

Are we done for the day? Are we ready to play this to people as my wife and I do our evening crossword? Have you done the secret words that will pass through the door to you? I did one of them. I didn't do the other one. Well, why don't you give it to me as a crossword clue and see if I can guess the word. All right. Okay. Five letters. Made of the worst tomatoes. Made of the worst tomatoes. Sauce? Yes. Well done. Thank you. All right. Okay. Well, that's it for Tim and I. Now it's me and my wife doing a crossword times two crossword number eight six

six four have you looked at any of the clues in advance one I saw one okay um but you're not going to do what you did to me that time where you watched a a tv game show in advance and then rewound it and I thought it was live and you were getting all the answers right it's because you're smug and thought and think that you know all the answers to everything so I thought I'd catch you out you're really proud of me and then you were getting annoyed because I knew all the answers you haven't done this time though you haven't looked at like because this is now I've just seen another one because I just took my hand away all right let's start then before you can look at too many okay ready yeah'm ready. So times two crossword number 8664. So one across is six letters, but it's four and two.

So two words. And the clue is neglect. And then in brackets, an opportunity. Neglect and an opportunity. I've got it. What is it? It's turned down, isn't it? I thought it was 4-2.

Pass up. Pass up. Yeah. was four two yeah pass up pass up yeah okay could be pass up yeah if it was pass up then two down begins with an a what would that be bow and arrow user archer yeah no a r c h yes yes yes yeah so it probably is pass up pass up all right good start we always like it when we get one across yeah then we know it's gonna be good okay three down milk pudding eight letters do you know i know it starting with an s yeah starting with an s um no if you know it is it semolina is that milk semolina is that made with milk it's made yeah okay well let's I've put it in lightly. Okay. Penciled it in.

What else comes off it? See if we got it. Well, let's do four down. Hang on. Four down, snap, five letters beginning with P. Snap. Five letters. So is it like snap as in cards or snap as in break?

I'm thinking like break, like break a twig or a stick. It can also be like a cold snap but i think what day of the week is this crossword from saturday so it's not going to be really hard no sunday's the clever one i've picked the easiest one okay snap no let's not do that yet let's try this nine across all right nine across this is the one i saw beforehand. So it's seven letters, write music. It begins with a C. It's compose. Yeah.

Which makes me also think that semolina is right. Yeah. So I'm putting that in solid. All right. Semolina or semolina? Or what fits. It'll be whatever fits. Well, it doesn't matter if it's an O or an A because that's in the middle of something.

So that snap is P something O. Probably P-R-O. Do you think people listening are saying, oh, it's stupid. It's meh. Okay, let's do this one then. Prosperous. Prosperous. Where does it go?

It's 11 across and it's 4-2-2. 4-2-2. And so far in the first word, we've got something E, something L. Well to do. Well, that's not fair because you were thinking about it while I was explaining it. Okay, four down is snap. P something O, something O. Now I think we've got something wrong.

Not necessarily. Well, it might not be pass up. Might not be, but I think it's likely to be. Audrey's very loud there. Do you think you should move her? I thought she was being all right. Do you think she's too loud? Snap. Oh, I know think it's likely to be. Audrey's very loud there. Do you think you should move her? I thought she was being all right. Do you think she's too loud? Snap.

Oh, I know what it is. Photo. Yay! We didn't think that. Brady does this really annoying thing, by the way, where he says, I know what it is before he says it. Like, why can't I just say it? No, but I used to, like, then hold you in suspense.

Oh, yeah. Now I just say it straight up. That would make me want to scream. But now you just say it. I know what it is. Short times. This is eight down. Short time, six letters.

Something E, something O, something something. Short time. Short times or time? Time. Short time. Second. Great. We're going great guns here. Ten across. Ten across. Stick Time. Short time. Second. Great. We're going great guns here.

Ten across. Ten across. Stick weapon. Six letters. It begins with a C. Stick weapon. So it's not like a spear. Stick weapon.

Does it mean like made of wood? Yeah, I'm thinking like a spear or a lance. It's a lance they use in jousting, isn't it? You know what? This could be something we don't know. Let's go to five across. Audrey snoring sounds like we've got a coffee percolator. People are going to think we drink lots of coffee.

It's nice. She's happy. Let's go to five across. Four letters. We haven't got anything in it, but it'll help us with some other things. Fellow. F-E-L-L-O. Like gent, maybe?

I was thinking that. Is that what it means? Fellow. It can mean that, but it can mean other things fellow f-e-l-l-o like gent maybe i was thinking that is that what it means fellow it can mean that but it can mean other things as well you know like a like a fellow of a society or something but what's what's what could be e then i'll put it in lightly for six down worker colon set of cards four letters so this when it's a colon and there's two things the answer is the answer to both of those things isn't it worker and a set of cards that's not a deck that's not a worker is it yeah like a deckhand deck or pack it was also a set of pack that's worker pack is that a work i think it might be deck i don't know i'm not sure about either we've watched too much below deck so that's

probably in my head if it was deck then seven down would bring him with a k oh you think deck oh that for that i thought it was oh hang on i'm confused i've done it wrong yeah sorry so six down could be deck but then it would have a k in that one stick weapon see something k pack or deck will give you a k but i still don't know the order of that. That sounds weird. Let's try this seven down. Having great power. So I've got that wrong.

There isn't a K there. Having great power. Six letters. Which really too loud. Got to go down. On the floor. On the floor. Too cute. He got a good one cute having great power

now I need more I need some more letters I need some more letters on that first right 12 across fine distinction 6 letters

beginning with N nuance nuance okay so that 7 down having great power ends with a C six letters having great power

um it'll end with ic when it like yeah heroic or um you know well maybe it's heroic that's not really power though heroism is that no let's see what there's starting with a let's let's move 13 down starting with a monarch's attendant eight letters oh what's it called something arry at the end that's an equerry that starts with a and it could be and it's not something to do with court like you know like a courtesan or a courtier monarch's attendant the queen has like ladies maids ladies and Like ladies-in-waiting and stuff. Let's move around and get some, let's get some words. Let's get some easies. That'll help give us more letters.

Let's go back over here then. 15 across. Mistakes. Six letters. That would be errors, wouldn't it? Not necessarily. What's that? It's got an A in it as the third from last letter.

Mistakes. Mistakes. Mistakes. It could be like errata or something like latin and but it could there are other things there are lots of words for mistakes besides errors and blunders okay look i think i've got this one 16 down um mature four two we've got nothing in it is that grow up yeah yeah so that means that that mistakes has got a G as the second one. What did you just say? That was errata, so it's not that.

Mistakes. Something G, something A, something something. Mistakes. Egress. Egress. What is it? Egress. What's that down?

See if we get the last letter. 14. Oh, no. I've done it. Oh, you've read the wrong clue. Oh, yeah. That's okay. Let's read the last letter. 14. Oh, no. I've done it. Oh, you've read the wrong clue. Oh, yeah. That's okay. Let's read the right clue.

14. It's 15 across. All right. Sorry. So what's 15 across? Large lizard. Iguana. Yeah, that's better.

Iguana. All right. Mistakes is still not errors, but it is six letters. So 14 down mistakes six letters second letter a mistakes let's come back to that shall we 20 across very happy comma elated so when it's a comma it's like that means both things very happy elated which one's six letters and we've got an o as the second one very happy joyous joy joyous i reckon it's joyous so that would be an o no that would be a y j no no that would be an o so what's that j o y o u s yeah okay i'm putting it lightly because 21 down would start with an o

base colon unit four letters starting with an O. On. On. Oh, she wants to come out. In your bed. In your bed. In your bed. Audrey, in your bed.

It's because you spoil her so much. She can't believe she's not allowed on. She's used to being on your lap for crossword time. Lift her up and see how loud she is. But she doesn't know we're recording it. It's not her fault. 23 across. Hang on, what's that?

We should be able to get that base unit. No, because I'm helping you. Okay. Golf stroke. Golf stroke. Four letters. Putt. Yep.

Woohoo. So the unit ends with a T. So it's O something something T. So base could be a base as in a place where you stay. What is it? Base or what? Base colon unit. So base can also be like a number base. Well where you stay what is it base or what base colon unit so base can also be like a number well that's what i was thinking and that's why i was thinking you might get it

they're always big guys unit what are you thinking there like is there anything that could be something that we're not thinking i'm thinking of singular single like you know but it could be military oh like a base in a unit. It's not necessarily joyous, is it? That's the other thing. True. Might not start with an O. Yeah.

So also unit, an English term, would be like English people would call a unit like a side unit. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, like a ward. Let's come back to that. I think you're right on the, what's it though? What's it called? 14 down. What was what was that that was errors wasn't it mistakes mistakes and it could have an it could be something something a something s something something

it could also be mistakes as in you know he mistakes her for oh yeah mistakes what's that it'd be good to get that confused whatuse. What's that one? 18 across. Appealing to high-income buyers. Eight letters. We haven't got anything in it. Appealing to high-income buyers. Luxurious? Oh, yeah. Does that fit?

Lux... Well, that would mean that 19 down would start with an... X. X. That's unlikely. What is that? Jollity. Jollity?

Yeah, five letters. What words do you know that begin with an X? None that I associate with jollity. Does jollity mean, like, jollity jollity yeah five letters what words do you know that begin with an x none that i associate with jolly does jollity mean like jolliness well that's what i'd guess i don't know then it's not luxurious is it what's another word for luxurious like um appealing to high-income buyers oh what about um like bespoke like when it's one of a kind like that kind of yeah i don't think that would be the clue for something like that, though. What's this one? Is that 22 across social insect, seven letters, social insect.

What's the one that's like a bee or something? That's the one I always think of as social. Busy bee. But it's one word, right? Yeah. What's an insect? I mean, ants are also very social, but again, that's too many letters. Social insect.

Ants and bees. What other insects are really sociable? What likes to hang out together? Woodlouse. Woodlouse. Let's go for it. What's that? Woodlouse.

They're absolute party animals. You always sing them together. together yeah fair enough yeah you'll be laughing if it turns out being a woodlouse 19 down oh that's jollity yeah no across that one there 24 across obstacle difficulty six letters hurdle hurdle could be jollity would end with an h if that was right oh we get we're getting to a google point oh we're not there yet sure we're getting there did we try 13 down yeah monarch's attendant 17 down revoke in brackets a law oh this one comes up all the time rescind yeah how many letters six yeah where does go? How do you spell it? R-E-S-C-I-N-D.

No, that's seven letters. Revocal or... That's how you spell rescind, isn't it? It's not just C. No, I think you're right, unfortunately. Revocal or... Repeal. Repeal. Yeah.

Should have done my neat writing. It's okay. 24 across obstacle difficulty. It's now got an L as a second from last letter. It's okay 24 across obstacle difficulty It's now got an L as a second from last letter It's hurdle isn't it It's hurdle So 13 down Now monarch's attendant

Starts with an A and ends with an R And how many letters? 8 Monarch's attendant I feel like I should get this I don't think this is my finest hour, this crossword. What's this one here? The down again.

What was that again? That's jollity. Ending with an H. 18 across. Appealing to high income buyers. We've got an E in it. We really need to get this 14 down. Mistakes.

Because then it will help us out with all those other ones. Which one's that? 14 down. Something A. Something maybe S. Something something. Mistakes. Okay, let's think about that one. us out with all those other ones which one's that 14 down something a something maybe s something something mistakes okay let's think about that one gaffs no because there's what's that could be g-a-f-f-e-s yeah is that it wouldn't be joyous that's an a yeah no but what's that well that might be joyous but it might not be because we've only got an o in it so if the joyous word could

be joyful gaffs still won't be right though oh what's the what's the clue for that one that we had joyful you're putting your finger on it and making it smudgy very happy elated possibly ending with an f if gaffs is right very happy elated something oh something something something ending with an f very happy elated. If that is gaffes, let's look at these other two clues. Okay, that's a good idea. So 18 across would begin with an F, which is appealing to high-income buyers. And then 22 across, social insect, would start with an E, wouldn't it?

An N with an E. Social insect starting with an E. I can't think of any insects beginning with an E. Ear't it? An N with an E. Social insects starting with an E. I can't think of any insects beginning with an E. Earworm. Earwig. Earwig. Ear.

Termites are very social. I don't, I don't. Oh, termite. I think it's a termite and it's not gaffs. Termite. I put termite in. We're going for it. We've got to go for something because it's annoying me now. So mistakes, something A, so mistakes something a something something t

something mistakes and it's probably going to end with s mistakes something a something maybe s something t something can i google what jollity means all right first google well i'm not googling the answer so this doesn't count no No, this is only a minor sin. Jolity. Yeah, what we thought. Lively and cheerful activity or celebration. The quality of being cheerful. But it's not merry because I'm pretty sure hurdles are on it.

That's jollity, isn't it? That one there at the down. Yeah. Something, something R, something H. Quit in with R. It's going to, it's not mirth, is it? Mirth? Mirth.

M-I-R-T-H? What does mirth mean? Googling. It also doesn't count quite as well. Yeah, amusement especially expressed in laughter. All right, there we go. Yay. All right.

And that doesn't count because you got it. Yeah. Okay, so let's have a look at 18 across again. Appealing to high income buyers something something m now eight letters we've got an e as the second from last one appealing to expensive glamorous um high end appealing to high income buyers expensive you can cut out all these long pauses and just go straight to when we get it and then it'll look like we're really clever i feel like we should be able to get this don't you i feel

like you should you like you like buying expensive things what how would you describe things you like like what's the difference between a good handbag and a really like yeah like luxury well-made that's why i was going down that bespoke line like one off like so joyous could still be right couldn't we haven't decided about that that joyous is still in the game yeah for 14 down mistakes if we have got something a something s t something what would be the last one last letter s another s but i'm gonna i'm gonna think about that mistakes one again i don't think it is s t s at the end i just don't because there aren't enough letters to make a word really what's that clue for joyous again very happy elated and we

know that there's an o as the second one six letters very happy elated. Elated. Could be joyful, couldn't it? And then that would be LT at the end. That's a different word, though. Joyful and joyous. Like elated. Joyful is... It could be. Very happy.

Elated. Joyful. All right, let's go with... Yeah, you're right. Oh, yeah. And then errors is faults. Ah! Woo-hoo!

All right, well done. Joyful. That's a game changer. So now we've got the start of this one. 21 down. Base, unit, four letters. Fort? What?

Fort? I don't know that word. You know, like Fort Knox or a fort. Like for a base. Why is it a unit though? Fort? Could be. Should we put it in?

It's done. It doesn't affect anything else, so it's in there 18 across come on appealing to high income buyers we've got you something m i must be able to get it now on can't get it now it must be on mustn't it up market up market yes okay 13 down monarchs attendant A something something R something I something R. Eight letters. Monarch's attendant. It's going to end R-I-E-R, isn't it?

Like area. R what? R something. Do you know what? I think it is courtier. Yeah. A nuance must be wrong. Yeah.

All right. Put courtier in. Let's figure out that nuance wrong. I reckon I've got that wrong. What's that clue? 12 across distinction n something c something something something could it be nicety that's exactly what i was gonna say nicety fine distinction n-i-c-i-e-t-y i'm putting it in that's an i there yeah no no i think that's an i there nicety how do you think how do you think you spell nicety nicety okay it doesn't matter now i mean it does matter how you spell words but

it doesn't matter for the purpose of this crossword so so what this down ends with a t but it doesn't start it doesn't start with a k i've put that in it so so what's that word seven down is having great power and it's six six letters and the end of the T. Let's go back to five across. Fellow. So it could be gent. So it could start with a T. Great power starting with T.

Having great power. Having great power. And what's this word beginning with a C? Stick weapon. Beginning with a C. Are we thinking the wrong way? And could it be like a kid's thing? Crossbow?

No, too many. I mean, cannon fits, but that's not a stick weapon, is it? And then six down was worker set of cards, which we thought could be deck or pack. I think it is deck or pack. How is that a worker? I feel like it could be... Is it set of cards? Set of cards.

Because why wouldn't... Oh, mind you, they would have said maybe deck of cards if it was pack and pack of cards if it was deck. Maybe that's just clever to confuse us. What other words are there? Look, if that is deck, then five across fellow would have D as the second one. I just don't... I think we've got to move away from deck and suit

until we figure out what they mean by worker you just said suit oh yeah because i was thinking of suit i was there was another answer i was thinking of suit yeah should i google what deck means no we're not there yet what's another word for fellows and you need my fellow you're my fellow traveler my co no i don't know we might be time to crack out dr google what do you think we should google i'm thinking sword because i stick stick weapon yeah stick because i think that okay we're going to a crossword solver i'm not sure i want you to use this one because i've had a shocker and it's going to sound like you're really clever and i'm not i'm gonna just play cudgel oh so it's not deck or pack because the cards one ends with a d set of cards worker hand yeah good all right right so five across fellow we were thinking about deckhand we were

closer than we realized fellow is something H, something something. Fellow. Probably starts with a T or a C. Chap. Chap. Yes. And that means, what's that one? The powerful one, is it? What's the clue again?

It is having great power. P, something something. E, something T. What are you thinking at the end here? E, something T. What could go between at the end here? E something T. What could go between those two? I've got no idea. Two Ts?

It could be anything. It could be L. L? Yeah, L. Oh, yeah. Having great power. Power, that's right, isn't it? So it could be like, because it's either political power or it could be strength.

Having great power. Yeah, I'm thinking like leader. Potent. Potent! Yay! All all right so now at the end the kylie does the traditional grading where she gives us a different size tick or even across how we're done today i think that's got to be a tick of some sort well look we googled one we googled yeah we had to get the meaning of two things. I think it's a medium to small tick. I think it's small ticks.

It felt like a bit of a difficult one, that. Yeah, small tick. Yeah, I didn't really enjoy it. Did you? No. It was our first time with microphones, too, which puts a different pressure on. Small tick.

Small tick. We'll take that. Now we can watch Below Deck. deck yeah that's our reward you were good though well done she was loud stories yeah