The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - $100 Girl Scout Cookies, Strip Teases & Failing Dry January

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

In this week's episode, Matt & Abby have an unfiltered conversation talking about Matt's failed attempt at Dry January, Abby spending $100 on Girl Scout cookies, and Matt's impromptu bedroom strip tea...ses 🤣 This episode was sponsored by Zocdoc, Nutrafol & Rocket Money. Go to https://zocdoc.com/UNPLANNED and download the Zocdoc app for free. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today. Visit https://nutrafol.com/UNPLANNED for $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://rocketmoney.com/UNPLANNED Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It just came in the better and took your pants. And just started twerking. Upside down. I was twerking upside down. I think you were in a bad mood. I think you were just in a bad mood. I'm like, Abby needs to laugh right now. I don't think I was in a bad mood.
Starting point is 00:00:08 I think I was just in a normal mood. And you just came in there and crept in me. We had some Girl Scouts go to our tour yesterday. Here's something about Abby. When she has cash, she considers it free. These Girl Scouts came to the door. And Abby said, I want every box. I am sad to inform you all I failed Dry January.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Literally the same day that you said you were going to do Dry January. It was. It was the same day that we recorded the podcast where I said that I was doing dry January delete take talk everyone don't need it everybody on tiktok that follows us is gonna delete tiktok I care about them that much I will let this business die what's up dudes and welcome back to the unplanned podcast yeah you guys we went number eight on society and culture recently on the Spotify Podcast chart. So thank you for listening. Thank you for turning tuning in That's just like crazy that we've been doing this now for a whole year We've done a whole year of the unplanned podcast. That's while it does not feel that long. I'll be honest with you
Starting point is 00:01:00 I still feel like Nervous before we film these. I'm like, I hope I don't. Me too, I like- Do something weird. Why do I do that? I'm just, I, but I am weird though, so I just have to embrace it and just, just be okay with that. You're weird too, we're both weird.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Actually, we were just thinking about this in the car. Matt is a chronic overthinker. And the longer we're married, the more I'm noticing it. And it makes me sad. Like, Matt will convince himself, and I'm sure some of you can relate out there, but he will convince himself just based off
Starting point is 00:01:28 of like the tiniest little thing, or sometimes there's no evidence at all that somebody dislikes him. Well, no, I just think that. Or that you've burned a bridge with somebody. I overanalyze the crap out of literally everything. Everything that I do. Yeah, relationships.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Like literally any type of work you've ever done. Videos that we make. Videos you've made. I think it comes in handy with content. Any decision, even driving decisions you overthink. I think it helped, it's helped me like make myself better at certain things, so I think I obsess about things so much that I just like by nature get better at them because I'm so, I want to be better so bad, but then it can be pretty toxic sometimes where I just like my brain can't shut off.
Starting point is 00:02:04 It's sad for me to see you go through that. Because I'm like, Matt, first of all, sometimes you do convince me that people in our life don't like us anymore. Like you convince me. I'm like, but then I like step back and I'm like, wait, I'm literally only listening to what Matt says. This isn't based in reality.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Like everything's fine. I think they like us. Like why are we so worried? Or even podcast guests too, because a lot of podcast guests we have on, like for the most part, the only conversation we have with them is on the podcast. We do chat a little bit beforehand,
Starting point is 00:02:29 just so we don't just do a cold open. Oh, I feel like we're best buds with like everyone we've ever talked to in the podcast. That's true. But maybe I'm also delusional in the other way. I'm like, there are some. I think you're very optimistic. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Which is a good thing. Yeah, I like that about you. No, I truly love everyone that we've had in the podcast. Oh yeah, me too. I'm like, I would literally, you can come over to my house, we can go shopping, grab a coffee together. Totally, totally.
Starting point is 00:02:49 But I think that's just kind of the attitude, I think we're very friendly people. Like, well, we wanna hang out with all of our neighbors, we wanna get to know everybody. But you're worried that they don't feel the same way about you. Yeah, but I do worry about people like, do they like me?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Like, do they think I'm weird? Did I say something stupid? I don't know. No, Matt's always thinking extends, like I said to him, even driving. Like, anytime there's a green light, yellow light, red light. The happened today when you weren't,
Starting point is 00:03:09 when you were picking up the vehicles at Einstein's, I chronically stop at areas that don't have a stop sign when everybody else has a stop sign, but I have the right away. And it confuses the crap out of people. Yeah, I mean, you like. So this man, wait, I have to tell the story. This man, like I stopped the car, full stop,
Starting point is 00:03:26 knowing dang well that there's no stop sign for me, and I'm just like waving him on, and he's so confused. Why do you do that? Like he's like, what is going on? Like why is this man stopping for no stop sign? I'm just waving him on. After about 10 seconds, he's like, I guess I'll go. I guess this guy's waving me on,
Starting point is 00:03:44 but I just, I overthink it. I overthink the road sometimes. You do that with people turning left too. Like if you're going straight, you have the right of way. But then you let people go ahead and turn left. Like Ryan and I, I'm like, you're gonna cause an accident. Like just trying to be friendly on the road.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yeah. It's, it's pretty. It's a condition. Maybe I should seek help for it. Maybe it plays into ADHD Over the way, I still haven't I still haven't gotten medicated for ADHD I feel like it'd be so easy to if I went ahead and got the the appointment, you know Yeah, maybe we should make put that on the list for this week as a non negotiable
Starting point is 00:04:18 Could you do it for me? That would be so helpful. I feel like I get so distracted It's hard to manage you personally. It's just very difficult. I have an announcement to make. I am sad to inform you all. I failed dry January. Literally the same day that you said you were gonna do January. It was the same day that we recorded the podcast
Starting point is 00:04:36 where I said that I was doing dry January because it was that night that I went and surprised my college roommate in Knoxville, Tennessee. And it was so fun, the energy was high, and he was like, guys, I have this special whiskey, I'd love us to all get a glass. And I'm like, and I'm like, I can't guys, I'm doing dry gin anyway.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And they're like, come on, Matt, it's like one. And then I was like, well, you know what? I'm with the boys, this rarely happens. Maybe I'll just do a dry February instead. And then I had another glass. And then the next day at the mountain, I had two beers. So I had four drinks. And then the next day at the mountain, I had two beers. So I had four drinks. And then at dinner, and then at dinner, you little snake,
Starting point is 00:05:10 you got me to have wine with you at dinner. Yeah, well, so I heard that Matt broke his dry January. And I was like, wow, you literally just said, I don't care that you don't drink, but I just care that you like follow through with things because I think that part of you is that you say things and then you don't follow through. I get a lot of big ideas.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I wanna do it all and the reality is I can't do it all. No, actually this is a reoccurring thing in our marriage. Matt will literally say things. You just have to understand, like he'll say things and have 100% no intentions of actually doing that. So an example, he'll say in front of our family, we're gonna go to Japan in March.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And I'll be sitting there, I'll be like, yeah, Japan and March sounds great. Like I literally just have learned to just go along with it and I'm like, that sounds awesome. And I would say 2% of those really out there things that you say actually come to fruition or even are brought up a second time. And so I just have had to tell my family,
Starting point is 00:06:04 because they'll be like, well, I wanted to do this in March, but I had to tell my family, because they'll be like, well, I wanted to do this in March, but I guess you're going to Japan. I'll be like, no, no, no, we're not going to Japan. They're like, I thought Matt just said you're going to Japan. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't mean that. He's just saying that. I feel like I do better with short-term plans.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Like when I plan things long-term, for instance, I plan to go with our neighbors to an Arizona Coyotes hockey game. And I had to cancel it because I did, I planned it a month in advance and then sporadically the day before, my roommates were like, dude, let's go surprise our roommate in Knoxville.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And I was like, of course I have to go to that because I want to make sure that those relationships from college don't die, those are my Grimm men, they're my homies, I gotta make sure that I'm still getting with them. And so I go to that and then I freaking missed the hockey game that was like the one thing that I planned a month in advance.
Starting point is 00:06:44 So I am very sporadic, but I like living life that way. I think it's fun. I don't know. I don't make plans that far out. It's always last minute. Yeah, I'm trying to though, cause I want to have more friends. True, you do have to do that with other,
Starting point is 00:06:57 I think to like keep friendships as an adult. But a while back, I was trying to set up time for us to hang out with another couple with their baby. Dude. And they were like, okay, what are you doing? And then they set a date that was literally almost two months from the date that we were currently at. I think it was with somebody that we were hanging with back in like October or November
Starting point is 00:07:18 and they wanted to hang in January. The first week of January I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. I don't have any clue what we're going to be doing then. So yeah, we could maybe, oh, I'm so sorry. I don't have any clue what we're gonna be doing then. So yeah, we could maybe stand to, I don't know. Yeah, but I will say this though. I like being sporadic. Your family has had to get used to me being like, oh my gosh, we're in Montana right now.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I love Montana, let's move here. I kinda say, basically every time I travel somewhere, I say that I wanna move there. I basically do, and I really do mean it. I know you mean it. If we lived in every place that we visited for, I don't know, a couple months, that'd be so cool. Like how cool would it be if we got to experience
Starting point is 00:07:52 a summer in New York City or, I was about to say a winter in Chicago, but I do not want to do a winter in Chicago. That would be horrible. Winters in Chicago are absolute butthole. I hate that. I would never, you couldn't pay me enough to do a Winter in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:08:05 It's kind of fun if you just do like one day at Christmas time. Even that though, we would go to Chicago with Abbie's family to this like German Christmas market and around Christmas. Babe, a lot of people know about this Christmas market. Okay. It's pretty well known apparently. We go to the wall, we go to the wall in that room. I'm just giving all sorts of details now.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah, that's fine. Like Chicago's a fun place at Christmas. But then you step outside and it is horrible, horrible, horrible. I heard people couldn't even charge their electric cars in Chicago recently because of how cold it got with the cold front. I heard that. Like is that insane? It was in the negatives.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Wait, why doesn't it not work? Like why did I get it? It has to do with the electrical current or something. I don't, I'm not an electrician. I don't know how it works What did I do in Antarctica? I guess they just don't buy Tesla's and Antarctica I'm guessing how does any of their electricity work? That's a really good question. We should ask him a generator We should have somebody on the podcast from Antarctica and talk to him. That is a crazy life
Starting point is 00:08:59 It's pretty much only scientists there, right? I think so. I don't know who would just move to Antarctica Just for the heck of it. Mr. Beast did a video there. Actually. Did you see that one? I don't know who just moved to Antarctica just for the heck of it. Mr. Beast did a video there actually. Did you see that one? I don't think that would be a fun trip, you know? We've talked about that because I kind of wanted to go to Alaska and you were like, I want to go to Alaska. Well, I've been to Alaska. It's pretty. I've never been. I want to see the northern lights. That would be awesome. That would be cool. Oh my gosh, remember that one time we did stargazing? That's one of my favorite things to do sometimes. That's so boring.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I love how we're, you think it's boring? Come on. That's way too educational. I was sitting there, I was like, they're showing constellations. I was like, I can, I cannot follow. Well, this was, I think it was like a mini baby moon that we did to Joshua Tree.
Starting point is 00:09:40 We drove all the way to Joshua Tree with our first pregnancy. Yes, I was already tired. I mean, tell you what, I've been carrying a baby around all day. My Joshua tree with our first pregnancy. Yeah, I was already tired I mean tell you what I've been carrying a baby around all day my brother and I are nerds, you know, we like Astrology and looking at the stars made a telescope. We had a whole freaking telescope Look at stars in this guide that came to the house They're like show us everything and you and my sister-in-law Abigail did not give a crap you guys I was there for the hot chocolate.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah. It was so- You thought that was boring? Yeah. I thought that was so cool. I felt bad. I loved that that man was so passionate about it. I love that there's people that know about that
Starting point is 00:10:17 and it just, that knowledge doesn't need to be shared with me, I just personally. See like when I look up in the stars, I just dream. Like I just, I'm'm just my mind is freaking blown at how beautiful our Universes and how many stars and planets there are out there and it's just so vast and our brain Maybe a little bit. Yeah, maybe I don't know just about our universe is pretty cool I have a hard time with this because you never get
Starting point is 00:10:45 emotional and then randomly a tear will come to your eye and it actually like whereas it could be touching for me it makes me angry because it's at the least appropriate times. Okay we're watching yesterday on Netflix is not a tear jerk. The scene where the mother and the daughter reunite in the end was beautiful that was so sweet but a tear was not brought to your eye when your child came into this world okay i'm sorry i can't choose when i tear up okay i don't have control over that i'm not like you in that regard i've gotten more emotional now that we have kids yeah
Starting point is 00:11:20 you're straight up gas lighting me right now i honestly don't even fully understand what that word means to to be honest. I feel like I kind of do now. People explain it to me from what I understand. How would you explain gaslighting to somebody? Google it, because I don't really know. That doesn't fully understand. I think it's just like basically you're trying to convince somebody of something that isn't there, right?
Starting point is 00:11:39 Or like that their emotions are not valid. Yes, that. Right. I mean, there's so many different circumstances where it can fall. Okay, it's psychological manipulation of a person, usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception, or reality,
Starting point is 00:11:54 or memories, and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence, and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotions, or mental stability. Seems like it could be a lot of things, but I think it's just basically mental manipulation. I feel like you'd be really, honestly I feel like you'd be really good at it. Honestly, yeah, I probably could.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Abby is so much better in a disagreement at using her words to effectively communicate how she feels than I am. I'm just like, well, you, I can't even, I don't even know what to say. I don't know, it to say. I don't know it just You get mad. I feel like I have nothing there's nothing to do there Sorry, honey. I told you that I feel like I have to be careful because I feel like I could run a marathon around you with my words
Starting point is 00:12:36 You really could you could run multiple marathon. You could do a triathlon around me with your words You also work cuz I read a lot more books than you. You were in speech and I don't think you did debate, but you did like, you were did public speaking engagements. I would have liked debate honestly. As a kid, you were like a kid public speaker. You were really, really good at it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And you have great diction. Sometimes I stutter over my words. It's not cause I actually have a condition. I just get nervous and in my head sometimes and I stutter. Do you wanna talk about that? No. Okay, I'm sorry. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:08 What I wanted to talk about though was the date we went on the other day. Abby Plant, we take turns planning out dates, okay? And so I took Abby on a date where we repeated our first date and then we also did a date- Wait, you have to describe it because it was really cute. I did that on the last podcast. Oh, see I just talk here and I never remember what happened. Okay. But then we went and saw a bunch of new movies, which we should talk about those movies that we saw
Starting point is 00:13:28 But but the date was so good you guys so Abby and I went to Einstein and got breakfast. Okay. It was three parts three parts of this date first step was breakfast second step was hot yoga and the third step was the juice bar and Dude, hi yoga was awesome. I don't know what happened in there, but I felt the zen, I felt the namaste, I felt so peaceful. Like the lady just had a soothing voice
Starting point is 00:13:53 as she talked about finding balance in your life. And truth and peace. And it was just like, I was so mentally present. And I realized while we were doing hot yoga. Your heart. Yeah, I just realized how like mentally present, how I'm not mentally present and I realized while we were doing hot yoga. Your heart. Yeah, I just realized how like mentally present, how I'm not mentally present a lot of times. Thank you to ZockDoc for sponsoring this portion
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Starting point is 00:16:04 ZocDoc.com slash unplanned. There's also like a link in our description too. Back to the episode. Being a creator and being a business owner, my brain is constantly thinking about business and creating and you know, it's what I love to do, but I think too much of any one thing is not bad. It's an unbalanced life. And so my brain is like a lot of times in La La Land thinking of ideas and like trying to come up with like how we can make the budget work and how we can make all these different things play out and business and creation all this.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And it's like, whoa, what if I'm just like present in the moment? I just felt so present during that class. Yeah. It was really cool. I feel like yoga. That's why I just like doing like v was really cool. I feel like yoga. That's why I just like doing like vinyasa yoga. I think that yoga can be a good workout.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It's basically, that's what we did. Oh, we did vinyasa yoga. They called it hot yasa, but I think it's staying for vinyasa. Okay. But it's like, you know, you're doing these sequences, but it's not like necessary. Like there's a lot of strength
Starting point is 00:17:04 and like flexibility incorporated in it, but it's not like necessary. Like there's a lot of strength and like flexibility incorporated in it, but it's not necessarily like designed to be a workout. Because if I was doing a workout heated like that, I think I would like go crazy. But you know, you feel it in your muscles. Like you can be more bendy when it's hot like that. No, I was stretching really good.
Starting point is 00:17:23 You feel so good afterwards because you just sweat so much. You just feel like, I don't know, just refreshed. Could you see the salt in your sweat? Did you notice? It was getting in my eyes and it was burning. Yes, and did you notice on my mat I could see all these droplets that had,
Starting point is 00:17:36 it looked like there was sodium in there. It looked like there was salt just hanging out because I was sweating so much. I was like, wow, I'm really getting rid of all this excess sodium that I just got from my bagel at Einstein's. you know? It was kind of cool to see all that. Interesting. Yeah. So that was my little day-date I planned, but yeah, we've been really on a movie streak too with our dates because we saw Wonka and we saw The Hunger Games and then I just saw Mean Girls, which I feel bad for going with you, honestly. I saw one of
Starting point is 00:18:03 our fellow creators, Chris, from TikTok made a cameo in Mean Girls, which I feel bad for going with that, you honestly. I saw one of our fellow creators, Chris, from TikTok made a cameo in Mean Girls, which is cool. He did. What did you think? Was that pretty cool? And that was pretty awesome. To see a fellow TikToker. Yeah, and there was also twins.
Starting point is 00:18:15 I'm pretty sure they're friends with Brooklyn and Bailey. They were in it too, from social media. Oh, really? Do you know what I'm talking about? I wanna say Meryl by Matt. The Meryl twins. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were in it too. People have said that we should have Meryl twins
Starting point is 00:18:24 on our podcast before. We should, I'm pretty sure they were in it too. People have said that we should have the Meryl twins on our podcast before. We should, I'm pretty sure they were in it too. I think they've collabed with Broken and Bailey before, and so when we did the episode with Broken and Bailey, everybody was like, have the Meryl twins, have the Meryl twins. I would love to have them on. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Someone send this to them, tell them we want them.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Send this to the Meryl twins. We'll do it ourselves. But anyway, the movie, I thought, okay, first of all, apparently it's a TikTok trend, people recording their boyfriend when they find out that Mean Girls is a musical. Because I didn't know it was a musical and I think that's because a lot of the advertising for it doesn't show that it's a musical. I wonder why they do that.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Is it a purposeful thing? Because they want to make sure people aren't scared away by it being like a musical? Maybe. Because I love musical movies. I loved how Wonka was a musical it was so well done yeah it was at first I I think I was just like surprised but as a theater person I was like oh wait this is fun and then I mean it makes sense music mean girls is a Broadway musical I think they had to change the key of a lot of the songs for the actors selected for the movie. Oh really?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Because they were too high? Apparently yeah, okay, but um I'm not here to here's the thing about me when it comes to movies I am there to be entertained and I just want to enjoy it and I'm not sitting there trying to critique it and pick it apart Like there's clearly so much talent that went into Producing this film and I can appreciate that. It was really good and it was cute and it was enjoyable. I have nothing bad to say about it. I thought Renee Rapp was incredible.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Fun fact though, we know some people that were in the Mean Girls Broadway musical. There was, well, okay, some of them not personally, but like the theater that Abby and I met doing shows at professionally as like kids, I guess. We were in the chorus. The youth. I wasn't professional. Yeah, we weren't paid. It was like, we had gotten to be in this professional show.
Starting point is 00:20:16 But I know like Taylor Lotterman was, I think Regina George on Broadway and she grew up in like St. Louis and did shows with them, uni. And then there was a. I thought she was up in like St. Louis and did shows with the Muni and then there was a- I thought she was Katie for some reason. And then was it Daryl, right? Daryl from the Muni. He was in Mean Girls on Broadway, so like super cool.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Just like some different people that we did shows with growing up. As it's like shame on me, but I honestly did not know any of the Mean Girls songs. Do you know them? No, actually I don't. I didn't know them either. I'll be honest, yeah I don't. And but apparently Aaron Samuels is supposed to have some songs, but he's not a singer, so they didn't do any of his songs.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Okay. But, um, yeah, it was, it was really enjoyable. I liked it a lot. You have to see it. You would like it. Doesn't that make you want to do theater? Okay, honestly, since we've been on such a movie kick, it makes me not theater necessarily. What's a movie musical?
Starting point is 00:21:02 No, I don't want to sing. I don't want to sing. I'm terrible at singing. I would love to. You're the singer. Dude, if I could be, if I could have been in West Side Story, the movie, I would have crammed my pants. That would have been the coolest thing ever. But you're practically already in West Side Story in your own music videos you've been making. Stop it. I don't want to stop. Okay. All right. I'll be honest. So I've been making these like musical like video things for my music and it's weird because like I low-key Want to do I low-key would love to like dance and then like seeing
Starting point is 00:21:39 I legit did a pure way make the final cut it didn't make the final cut. Cause it just looked, it didn't look cool. Hey, wait, can you release the pirouette footage on the Unplanned Podcast Instagram so we can all see it? If people remind us, yes. Remind us to post the pirouette video and I'll post it. That is so, see, this is the type of content you get if you follow the Unplanned Podcast Instagram. You get some exclusive stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I don't know, dude. Like, I guess, okay. So people would put that behind a paywall on it. I would be I would be way more apt to like dance to my music If I had a choreographer because I've never been a choreographer like I and I know I can move well Like I took dance my whole entire life, but I'm not like I would not say that I'm like a Nowhere near professional magic Mike, I saw your face. Okay. Matt took his pants off. You gotta stop, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Do you know what I'm about to say? No, what do you say? This happened probably once a month, but you just came in the better and took your pants off. And just started twerking. Oh, I was working upside down. I think you were in a bad mood. I think you were just in a bad mood.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I'm like, Abby needs to laugh right now. And I got on the wall, I started twerking. I don't think I was in a bad mood. I think you were just in a bad mood. I'm like, Abby needs to laugh right now. And I got on the wall, I started twerking. I don't think I was in a bad mood. I think I was just in a normal mood and you just came in there and crept in me. You needed to have your mood elevated and I think I did that. I think I, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Honestly, you just threw me off big time. Do you know how I learned how to twerk upside down? Why do I want to say it's your brother Kaila? My older brother Kaila. In high school, I think he was just like randomly. He's kind of, he's hilarious. You really told me something. We have some weird, I have some really weird stories.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I cannot say on the internet. That you're just a kid and I remember. They're staying private. I never want to be around Caleb when you talk about it again. Because I think my face will just go completely red. I'll be like, you can't. I don't want to know. Yeah, I learned how to twerk for my brother.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And so. And where did he learn it? You know, I don't know. I don't wanna know. But yeah, I learned how to twerk for my brother, and so. And where did he learn it? You know, I don't know. I don't know. I think from high school parties, because he was more of like the. Is that what they're doing at the high school? Actually Matt, can I tell you what the Mean Girls movie
Starting point is 00:23:35 made me terrified of? Our kids going to high school. Yes! Matt, also. Kids are so mean. Yes. Yes. And I also think that social media was a huge aspect of,
Starting point is 00:23:48 that's what like Chris and those twins, it was like the clip was like them making a TikTok about something that was- Oh, they were TikTokers in the movie. But they didn't include TikTok, but it was clear that the app being used was TikTok. And like people like, so it just made me terrified of having a high school
Starting point is 00:24:04 or obviously social media will be totally different when we have kids in high school. But imagine something goes down at school and then a kid makes a TikTok and then with the TikTok algorithm that can be pushed out and go viral. And that could ruin a child, like their children, their prefrontal court.
Starting point is 00:24:22 We were literally just talking about this last night. High school, we made some decisions stupid crap Like I was not fully developed Did you know that I got tackled while I was ding dong ditching in high school? Did I tell you about that? I was 15 and I literally I just I just started hanging out with all the like the good kids I Made some I made a poor decision in my freshman year And then I ended up like starting hanging out with a completely new crowd But then there was one knucklehead in the new crowd that was like,
Starting point is 00:24:45 let's go ding dong ditching. And he convinced all of us to go ding dong ditching. Okay, but that's so harmless. True, until you get tackled by a homeowner who was pissed because he had to wake up at 5 a.m. and we were, it was literally 9 30 at night. We ding dong ditched at 9 30. Like it wasn't like it was 1 a.m. Why did you just say 5 a.m. then? Well, because he had to wake up at 5 a.m. So he was like, oh, that's so effing weird about 5 a.m. He goes just say five AM then? Well, cause he had to wake up at five AM. So he was like, oh, that's what FB waiting for five AM. He goes, just ding dong, ditch my house. And then he like literally chased us and he tackled me.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Okay. That guy was not sane. That is weird. That's on him. He probably could have been arrested for that. Cause like ding dong, ditching is not okay, but you can't just like tackle a 15 year old when you're like 35. I don't know. You kind of get into a gray area
Starting point is 00:25:21 cause you could maybe make an argument for trespassing. Can you though? I mean it's it's probably I don't know I'm curious how there's a lot of things I would have done before I tackled a child Yeah, I was a good kid too. Like I was your parents. I was freaking out that I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna get beat up Or I'm gonna die like yeah, you're adrenaline's pumping so hard and then I was yelling I was like he tackled me like to all my buddies that they knew that the dude was like literally on me.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Cause I was like, I need, I need backup. He stayed on you? He tackled me. And then I, I can't honestly remember everything that happened because I was just so in the moment and so freaked out that I was going to die. But, did you tell your parents? I don't think I told my parents.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Cause it's one of those things where you're like, you don't want to tell your parents that you got tackled for Ding Gong ditching. They're gonna be like, why are you freaking being ditching? I would say that, but then I'd call up that person and be like, um... He didn't punch me.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Like if he would have physically attacked me, so he did tackle me, but it wasn't like he then beat me or punched me in the face or, you know, did anything horrible to me. I don't know, I just think if kids did that to my house repeatedly, it would be annoying. I can understand that, but then also in my head, I'd be like, oh, it's kids.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Like, I don't know. Like those girl scouts that came to our house last night. Well, you know what's funny is now that there's ring door bell cameras, I feel like no kids can ding-dong ditch now, unless you're wearing a mask. I sure they can. I guess you could wear a mask or something.
Starting point is 00:26:42 But then are they really gonna take that footage to the police to track down Which I like okay think about this though if our kids go and ding don't it's neighbors The neighbors will know who the kids are that thing on it. You can't do it in your neighborhood Were you doing it in your neighborhood? No, it's what he else's neighborhood see but it was but my friend He lived in the neighborhood so the people would have known it was him They would have been like they would have gone over to his parents and complained and then he would have gotten in trouble Back to what I was saying. It makes me terrified to have high school-aged children it was him, they would have gone over to his parents and complained and then he would have gotten in trouble.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Back to what I was saying, it makes me terrified to have high school aged children that have access to social media like that. And my only hope is that by the time our kids are in high school, this is totally different because that makes me, and it was so weird not for the first time that I can really remember I fully related to the parents instead of the high schoolers. That's weird. We were in high school like 10 years ago. Abby that's what's weird to me. We are old. Can we talk about this?
Starting point is 00:27:36 I know this a while ago but Halloween I felt so weird because like I was like who do I talk to right now like there were there were like kids but then- What are you talking about? What on Halloween? We went to a trunk or treat party for Halloween this past year and all the parents- Did you resonate with the kids' trunk or treating? No, but I was like, I'm not one of these parents. Like all the parents were like 35.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And I'm like, I'm 25. Like I'm not that old. Yeah, I went to a play date today, or the other day and the mom was 37 and I'm 25. It's weird. And I get like, okay, so our friends that are like 35, I went to a play date today, or the other day, and the mom was 37 and I'm 25. It's weird. And I get like, okay, so our friends that are like 35, 37, 39 that have kids our age,
Starting point is 00:28:11 I can relate to them a lot more. Like we're in the same stage of life. We have a one and a half year old, we have a five month old. If you're also someone that's like 35, 40, and has a one and a half year old or a kid. You're kind of the same. Yeah, you're in the same life stage.
Starting point is 00:28:23 So it's like very easy to relate to each other. But what's weird to me is a 35 or 40-year-old that has a 15-year-old. And then I'm like, wee. We're going to be, our kids have aged us. Having kids young is great, but it does age you. Which freaks me out, because I want to stay young forever. I wish I could just freeze myself right now
Starting point is 00:28:40 and just stay at 25. If I could live the rest of my life at 25, that'd be awesome. I don't want wanna get any older. My whole life I've always wanted to get older. And then once I turned 21, I realized I don't wanna get any older. This is scary.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Until we got hit with that $1,000 fine in Hawaii because I was under 25 and they gave me the under 25 fee for the rental car. That was the most infuriating thing ever. It wasn't a fine, it was just an additional fee. The fee, yeah. So now that I'm 25, we don't have to pay the underage driver fee anymore. So I think 25 is perfect. That's what I a fine, it was just an additional fee. The fee, yeah. So now that I'm 25, we don't have to pay
Starting point is 00:29:05 the underage driver fee anymore. So I think 25 is perfect. That's what I'm saying, we should just freeze our age if we could do that. But yeah, I related with the parents on that one. And I also just got really sad for any current high schoolers that are going through a hard time. High school is such a weird isolated experience.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It can be great or it can be brutal. And I don't know, if you're listening to this and you're in high school, I don't know if you're listening to this in your in high school I don't know if there are very many people that are in high school is this podcast But just know that like I want you to have a sense of identity That's not based on what your peers are saying about you because it's just a weird time It's just it's a hard time and it can be great and just surround yourself with people that are gonna uplift you and It can be great and just surround yourself with people that are gonna uplift you and cheer you on. This portion of today's episode is sponsored by NutriFull.
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Starting point is 00:32:14 I can just like mother Yeah, because I am younger I feel like I have a better advantage when it comes to like mentoring them then I then like yeah someone That's actually the age of their parents because I don't know, I just wanna be like, that's not real. Like you are beautiful, you have so much potential, you're so talented, you're so smart.
Starting point is 00:32:32 These things, like I don't know, I feel like everyone's been talking nowadays about how the generation that's in high school right now has grown up so fast. They have the same Christmas wish list as I do, which when I was their age, we were talking about at least we wanted fuzzy notebooks There was a tiktoker that popped up on my FIP the other day and I thought she was like legit our age She's a high schooler like she was talking as if she were you Abby and she was saying all the things that she
Starting point is 00:32:57 Wanted for Christmas. This was like, you know back when Christmas was going on But it was just shocking to me with how similar some high schoolers are to us. And I've heard that they feel a lot of pressure to be older or to appear older. Weird. And that makes me so sad because you have one childhood. Like you have, that's why I've always said I don't want our kids to work in high school
Starting point is 00:33:18 because that is your childhood. I would disagree with you though because I still had a childhood, yet I worked in high school. And I think it really taught me a lot about how business works. It taught me a work ethic It wasn't I wasn't working full-time. I wasn't working even part-time. I was probably working at most Like I don't know maybe 12 hours a week at the busy season of time. Cause I was mowing lawns. I had a lawn mowing business for all my neighbors. It paid really well.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I got to manage my clients, make sure that they were happy with their service, mowed their lawn every week. I would be happy if our son did that too. They're probably gonna have some sort of like self mowing lawn mower by the time that our kids are around. I think that even already exists by the way, but I would love for our kids to work in high school
Starting point is 00:34:07 and learn how that works. No, listen to what I'm saying. I worked too. I was a nanny and I would work like all summer watching the same kids that I still love and talk to today. So, Elise and Wes, if you're watching this, I love you so much.
Starting point is 00:34:19 But I was saying that I don't want them to have to work because you can learn work ethic, you can learn all those things that you just said through your extracurriculars. And that is the one time in your life where you can try everything. That's your time to find what you're passionate about. Or like you can,
Starting point is 00:34:36 it's a great time to discover what you're passionate about. Some people don't find that till they're later in life. But I think that age is so, it's such a great time. Like I said, just to try everything, do everything and not be tied down to something because you have the rest of your life to work. I don't know though, because I feel like high school
Starting point is 00:34:50 was part of the time that I got a little glimpse of what it was like to be an entrepreneur. Setting your own hours, working as much or as little as you wanted. That's kind of how I interpret it. I guess that I'm talking about having a job, Matt. Like you're talking about mowing lawns. I'm talking about, and that's the same as like nanny,
Starting point is 00:35:06 where you're offering a service that you're in charge of. A nanny in a way is an odd for newer. If you're a babysitter and you're like trying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so you're okay with that then? I'm okay with that stuff. If the kid is choosing you, I'm saying, I don't want them to go out and get a job at.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Workhead subway, or should pull it. I get what you're saying. Okay, I can more align with that. What about the summertime though? What if they're not doing anything in the summer and then I think they should go do things in the summer But not work at Chipotle if they want to that's totally different than like having like me being like you need to learn work ethics So you're gonna go and get a job. I think that would be only something if our kids like wildly out of line I mean, it's tough. I think it just depends on the kid.
Starting point is 00:35:46 It really depends on the kid, like what direction you give them. I don't want that to have to happen because I just... That's their time to do that. Your childhood is so short. I think it's all about balance. I think people make... School is hard enough. School is honestly hard enough.
Starting point is 00:36:00 People make big rash. Well, I even think like with school, school like I don't see the point in our Like our kids especially as they get later in their high school years If they do a half day and then they take college courses online for part of it Or maybe they go maybe there they've started up a video production business where they make video content for a Relator in film houses and I'm just like I'm making up a mock concept here but I think we want to like just let each kid decide what's gonna be best for them because each kid is gonna have different interests and we'll have to play that by ear. Yeah but as a parent it's your job to kind of guide them and to you know I
Starting point is 00:36:39 guess like encourage them in certain ways like we're not gonna choose like to whatever you want because then what the heck will they do? Like they, it could go crazy. So- That's why it's all about balance though. I know, but I knew a lot of kids in my high school that would go to school all day
Starting point is 00:36:54 and then they would work shifts all night and all over the weekend. See, I don't know kids, I'll be honest, I didn't know kids like that. So that whole thing- Well, it makes me sad because they might've had to. To get to have their own car. No, it makes me sad because they might have had to. To get to half of their own car. No, it's not, it's happening all over.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Really? Yeah, you just grew up in a really wealthy area. I was like, okay, let me put this straight though. At the high school that I went to, I was definitely one of the poorer families for sure. Which is fine, but I'm just saying like in your area, like you were in a wealthier area. Oh yeah, kids at my high school had like fat houses
Starting point is 00:37:24 and I was like, I don't, that's not my neighborhood. Like my neighborhood was like, I don't know how our neighborhood got into the high school district that we got into. They do that on purpose when they district schools. But we got lucky. Yeah, I was closer to like two other high schools but I somehow went to the high school that I went to
Starting point is 00:37:38 just with how the districts played out. I don't understand it, but anyway. Yeah, I just don't want them to have to do that. I just, yeah, I would avoid that at all costs. I totally see what you're saying now. I'm gonna get us on a soap box here for a second. You know what needs to be taught in high school more than anything?
Starting point is 00:37:53 Oh gosh, please don't say sex ed. No, financial literacy. Oh my gosh. Financial literacy, Abby. I'll get a day for MC. No, it's just because like kids are learning about trigonometry and all these subjects that you literally never use in the real world ever
Starting point is 00:38:07 Okay kids that are engineers taking all the math classes that they go personal finance class. We did I was lucky I was one of the kids that went to a school We did have a one semester long finance class in high school But a lot of kids don't even have that and it should be I think it should be something that you take every single year Every adult uses finance every day, whether you realize it or not. Every adult needs to know how a budget works, how to budget, how to plan.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And that's why this episode is sponsored by Rocket Money. Is it actually? Yeah, actually. Oh my gosh. That's hilarious. Okay, but back to what I was saying. That's hilarious. I didn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah, I high-fived you for that one. Good job, you're a smart woman, Abby. You're so... You're so... You're so... You're so... You're so... You're so...
Starting point is 00:38:51 Even history, though, like, I think history is so important and it needs to be taught in schools. But hey, maybe we cut out one semester of history. Okay, but here's my thing about history. History repeats itself. I get it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:04 What? What did you wanna say? Every year they started out the same thing about history. History repeats itself, I get it. No, no, no. That's how it goes. What did you want to say? Every year they started out the same part of history. So I really know about the revolutionary war. Oh, everybody knows, yeah. But I get foggy when it gets to more recent history. That's true. Like I literally am still kind of, I want to admit it. I'm actually a history nerd, so I love history.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Like the 2008 recession, what the heck was that? We can talk about that after the podcast. We should watch The Big Short, that's a really good movie. No, I started that, I got. About Michael Bur got Michael. Oh you hated that movie. I love that movie And you kept pausing it to ask me to explain it No, I was not rude about it in different ways very smart. You're very very smart, okay? I just think that everybody needs to understand how money works more.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I agree. And it's not like, so many people think, oh, if I want to make more money, I just need to get a better paying job. Actually, no, maybe the answer is figuring out how to live off of less than what you make, which actually isn't that complicated. A big part of financial literacy is just
Starting point is 00:40:04 having the discipline to withhold gratification. And it sucks. Like we had a season in college where we were really trying to save and so we didn't get, we talk about this all the time. But we didn't get dollar ice cream with our friends because we're like we're gonna save. These are the times where I feel like you're trying to parent me. We're gonna save that dollar. Why?
Starting point is 00:40:21 Why would you say that? Hey, you're telling me how money works. No, I'm explaining it. I'm gonna get off my soap box now. I'm not trying to tell you. No, that's a really good point. I that? You're telling me how money works. No, I'm explaining it. I'm gonna get off my soap box now. I'm not trying to tell you. No, that's a really good point. I'm not trying to tell you how money works. You're very, very smart.
Starting point is 00:40:30 You understand it. No, no, I don't know how money works. That's why I'm glad I have you. Because we make a great team. We need to have our 2024 budget meeting. Yes. Can we do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Let's have that. Let's do some planning. Don't look at the recent purchases I made because I started to cross off my resolution getting new jammies. I got four pairs of jammies. That's awesome I actually just saw that we bought tickets at the Sun's game for tomorrow night. Do you yeah? Yeah, I actually told you to buy those cuz I thought it'd be fun. It'd be a fun date night
Starting point is 00:40:54 We got the cheapest tickets though. Did you get the cheapest? Yeah, but they get you with that online service. Oh, they the service fee But you know, it's still fine anyway all that to be all that is Now that I'm getting off that is now that I'm, I'm getting off my soapbox, I'm stepping off the soapbox. I think that people, I think it would just save so many marriages, I think it would save so many families from financial ruin because it's just something that's not taught as much and people leave it up
Starting point is 00:41:20 to families to teach their kids and which I think there is, there is stuff that needs to be taught in the home, but it's important enough that finances need to be taught in school. Did you see that everyone was clipping Mark Cuban on TikTok a while back? What did he say? Him being like, everyone's complaining about money
Starting point is 00:41:38 or things like, I don't even know the exact, I'm not quoting him. But basically encouraging people to stop getting their morning coffee, like morning latte. Oh people were pissed Yes, yes, and you know what I see both sides this I'm like, yes the rational side Yeah, you'd have more money if you didn't spend six dollars on a coffee daily But I really side with the other side Because if you're going to a daily grind every single day and then that is your
Starting point is 00:42:03 into a daily grind every single day. And then that is your special thing that just makes you excited to start your day. It kind of just, it's romanticizing your work experience. Then I say carve that out of your budget every single day. So here's the problem though, Abby. And I'm gonna, let me just say this though. Now let's take the scenario where your car breaks down and you have a thousand dollar
Starting point is 00:42:25 fix on your car and because you don't have the immediate cash, that a thousand dollar emergency fund to fix your car, you have to go get a payday loan, you have to borrow money from a friend, you're basically going to have to go get into debt at a really high interest rate which is going to eff you over so bad, you have to go get a loan somehow so that you can get to work or pick your kids up to school like how can you live I guess you could take the bus but then that's really inconvenient and maybe it saves you a lot of time and money to have a car to get around so now you've effed yourself over because maybe you could have saved your $10 a day by not getting your fancy coffee drink and if you would have gone let's just say a hundred days without getting your fancy coffee drink. And if you would have gone, let's just say 100 days
Starting point is 00:43:06 without getting your fancy coffee. I know that sucks. I know that'd be really hard for some people. Not 100 days. Let's say 100 days, but you went 100 days, you saved your $10 a day. Now you have a thousand bucks, your car breaks down. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:43:16 You don't have to go into debt. You don't have to. You didn't get any special coffees. Which is sad, but think about the stress and toll that put on your life if you're like, oh my gosh I can't afford this car repair. So I think that's where That's where that comes in a break. And so I would agree honestly I would agree with Mark keeping on that I would I disagree vote with both of you because
Starting point is 00:43:36 guess what If you think that car wreck that you're talking about would have killed you then you would have been like man I saved all this money for what and you're talking about when it killed you, then you would have been like, man, I saved all this money for what? And you're right, Abby, but then if we look at the statistics, most adults live to their 75, so for most people, you're likely to live into your 70s, so to spend all your money now, I swear I hate talking to you.
Starting point is 00:43:55 You're more likely, I just look at the numbers. And what's funny is I will say I have a bias, because sometimes I'm like, man, I look at numbers so much, I feel like I have an unbiased perspective But every human is motivated by passion the viewers of this we're gonna give away ten coffees Okay Ten of you personally for ten special coffees. Yes, that's really sweet You know what everyone chef is freaking special coffee
Starting point is 00:44:23 That's really really sweet even know what? Everyone should have a freaking special coffee. That's really, really sweet. And even if they might get some car damage. So 10 people are getting $10 for their special coffee? Yes. That's so nice of you. I love that about you. You guys, Abby, we had some girl scouts go to work for her yesterday.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And here's something about Abby. When she has cash, she considers it free, OK? She's like, this is free money. Because I don't know. We never use cash to pay money for anything, but she got $100 from her grandpa for Christmas. And actually that might've been my $100, honestly that you gave away.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I think it was my $100 that you gave away, but these Girl Scouts came to the door and Abby said, I want every box. And so we got one flavor of every single Girl Scout cookie. We gotta be careful, cause now people are gonna come to our door and try to sell us four Girl Scouts. We already have all the flavors. And you know what, I would buy another box. Okay. Don't say that
Starting point is 00:45:08 But like they were so cute. They came in the right way We were these sweetest little girls flavor of cookie so and I wish I could go to the door But I was with the baby so I couldn't and then the grand total was $42 for every box But then Abby was like let him keep the change change kids Thank you to Rocket money for sponsoring this portion of today's episode to change. Get to change kids! Thank you to Rocket Money for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Matt, if I asked you how many subscriptions we have, would you be able to list all of
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Starting point is 00:46:15 You probably call to lower it. I'd be like, let me tip you. And your rate would go up, Abby. Yeah. So like the fact that Rocket Money can handle this for us is obviously the move. They would convince me that I need an additional service. No, yes. And I'd be like, okay, fine. You would just add something to your bill.
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Starting point is 00:47:13 I will admit when it's adults, it kind of runs me the wrong way. I'm like, don't come. Oh, no, that's agitating. It's really agitating. A child, I get really annoyed. I get really annoyed. When a kid, I'm like, I don't care what it is you're selling.
Starting point is 00:47:23 You could be selling poop, I would buy it. No No, Matt remember when those two sweet little kids came they were literally just raising money for their private school Yeah, and you just gave money you did did I yes, I thought you did did I I thought it was you yeah I have a problem. I just give it impossibly good. The problem is we don't have cash So I was like you guys have been no or sell I think you but then no this time you did have the $100 from your grandpa that we got for Christmas. Yeah, sorry, Papa. Don't worry, I spent mine on myself
Starting point is 00:47:50 and I spent Matt's on Girl Scout Cookies. Yeah, I always spent my Christmas gift on Girl Scout Cookies. But you're gonna love them. And actually, I came up with another thing. We can make a TikTok of us rating every Girl Scout cookie flavor. Which is a good business decision.
Starting point is 00:48:03 So it really was just a business expense. Because now we're gonna make a video about us trying Girl Scout cookies on TikTok, which Abby doesn't even have the app, she deleted it and she encouraged everyone to delete the app. I love not having TikTok. So now all our followers on TikTok. Everybody delete TikTok, you don't need it.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I swear to you, you'll feel so much better. I already feel so much better. Everybody on TikTok that follows us is gonna delete TikTok because you're telling'll feel so much better. I already feel so much better. Everybody on TikTok that follows us is gonna delete TikTok because you're telling them all to delete TikTok. I care about them that much. I love that, I really appreciate that. I would love this business die.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Honestly, a podcast is a way healthier medium to consume content. I'm loving podcasts. Because it just feels like you're in the same room with the people and you can hear their whole story. They're not being clipped. You're not hearing like this short little curate. No, you are being clipped. We do get clipped all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:47 We also clip ourselves. It's annoying. You clip us and set us up for your booby trap us. I don't want a booby trap us. I just want people to get excited about the episodes and sometimes it comes back. Actually, you booby trap yourself. I booby trap myself.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I do do that sometimes. Sometimes I do really stupid things. No, Mike, you're not trying to. I'm not trying to. Sometimes I just make really, you've said this before, you said I'm the dumbest smart person you've ever met. Yeah, I think you're thinking at this level all the time that things at this level get overlooked.
Starting point is 00:49:15 You know what I mean? You're hilarious. You wanna talk about what I did the other day? What? We won't say the brand. Oh my gosh, yes. Yes, let's talk about this. So Abby gets this DM. Okay. Abby's brother. Wait, can we, can I say this? Abby's brother is looking for a job right now. Am I allowed to say that? Yeah. Okay. Hit up Abby's brother Blake. He's a very qualified marketing major. He's in journalism. He's in journalism, but I think he had a minor in marketing from Missouri State University. Marketing and advertisement. Degree from Missouri State University where Abby and I both went to school
Starting point is 00:49:46 in Springfield, Missouri. It's a classic kid. Very smart kid. Of one of those frustrating things where it's like to get a job now, you need experience, but to get experience, you have to have someone give you a job. If you're looking for a journalism major
Starting point is 00:49:57 or a marketing major, DM the unplanned podcast Instagram. In the Phoenix area, he's highly qualified. Or online. Online. Cause your brother is highly qualified and he can do an online job too. Or not highly qualified.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Highly teachable. Yes. Hardworking, creative, very passionate hard worker. Oh yeah, this kind of leads into what? Anyway, Abby gets a DM from this business that just so happened to be the business that Abby's brother had just applied for a job with. Oh, and get this met.
Starting point is 00:50:26 It was the exact same person that interviewed him. Exact same person that interviewed him. So do you want to tell the story? I think we'll tell it rather than me. So he was unfortunately, oh man, we're gonna have to ask him if it's okay if we share this. Just whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Basically my brother was interviewing for this job and it was going really well and he was so excited for this specific job for a multitude of reasons. I mean, he's not the expressive type type but I could tell that he was like yeah eager about the prospect of working with them. He does interviews and then he finds out that they filled the position and it wasn't him and I think he was pretty disappointed. He didn't say anything about it but he's just one of those people it's like I knew
Starting point is 00:51:00 he was pretty disappointed at but anyway the week later after finding this out, because I asked him, I was like, how did, it was literally less than a week, it was that same week. I get an email from the same person that interviewed him, asking for us to work with them, not like at the same capacity, like not like to fill a position, but to do some type of marketing for them.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And I usually just forward those emails on to our, we have a really awesome team that works with us. I was like, oh, let me just, let me just respond. And I was like, wait, I heard about you through my brother and I like put his name and I was like sending all this information. Do you want me to read it? Is this in your DMs?
Starting point is 00:51:34 No, it's in our email, Matt. Oh, it's on our email. Okay. I don't even know how they got that email. Really? Yeah. Cause we don't give away that email freely cause they gave, they got to our, our personal email, our personal business email, but we have an official business email in our bio.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Which by the way, there's a freaking podcast scammer that keeps reaching out to all these creators and telling them that we're trying to have them on the podcast. And it's like this random dude, he's telling people that they're gonna get paid money, and he says it's gonna be like this Facebook live event for the podcast, it's so annoying, it still is going on.
Starting point is 00:52:02 So if you ever get an email from somebody that says they want you on our podcast and they're offering money and say something about Facebook, run, okay? Don't ever give your Facebook information. The email will be the same email that we have in our bio or it'd be from our assistant. Businessatmatanabby.co or adyatmatanabby.co. Exactly, that would be the email
Starting point is 00:52:22 or it would be from our agents at Gersh. There's no, we don't have a single genie I will be contacting you from. Yeah exactly so like anyway that's beside the point but back to your back to your thing Abby sorry. You want me to read the emails? That's what I was pulling up. It's not really relevant but basically I was like I heard about you from my brother and then they're like oh yeah Blake was awesome we just passed on his resume and I was like
Starting point is 00:52:44 you know I was like it you know, I was like, it's pretty disappointing that it didn't work out because he is so hardworking, passionate, teachable, creative, eager, motivated. Like I was like literally listing a thousand ad chips about why he'd make an imperfect employee group. And I was like, yeah, and I know that, like it would have been really cool if this like.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Well you were mad. I was pitching him. Which I was like, Abby, you can't be mad at this would have been really cool if this like, well, you were, you were mad. I was pitching him. Which I was like, Abby, you can't be mad at this business. Oh, I knew I couldn't be mad, but I still was. They were just making a business decision and it's just like an actor auditioning for a role. You know that you're gonna have to audition for 10 roles to get one yes.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Okay, Matt, let me tell you something. Your watch go ahead, can know something, but your emotional heart can know the other and they were at war. And my heart was getting the, my heart was out in the keyboard. And I know that too. And they were like, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I feel that. There's the role is filled. Well, I feel that on social media. Like sometimes I'll work really, really hard on a video, and I put my heart and soul into the video, and then it tanks. And it's like, that's so frustrating, because I put everything I had into that video
Starting point is 00:53:43 thinking it would be, like people would like it But for whatever reason people didn't like the video and that's just a hard truth of life But you have to understand that if you do that, you know 20 times over you're going to have a home run if you apply at 20 Different jobs you're going to get a yes And you just have to you have to put in the work, you know, I'm so sorry about it He is pretty I know he is but it's just a big sister It's hard because you just you really want to beat people up Actually, you do you've told me before that you want to beat me up. Yeah, sometimes I'm gonna beat you up
Starting point is 00:54:11 You're you could be a little bit a little bit aggressive sometimes I didn't actually want to beat them up I was mad even though I knew I could can't be they just felt like that person needed a job just as much probably. But it's just hard when it's your little brother and he came out here to be near us. And so I feel a little bit of personal responsibility making sure that he has a job that he's happy with. So anyway, hopefully that person doesn't think I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Not just a proud big sister. And they said that, they're like, I know. Not just a proud big sister. And they said that they're like, I know you're very proud of your brother. Like they were so nice. And I wasn't rude. I was just like still trying, but the position is already filled. I wanted them to like fire that person
Starting point is 00:54:56 and put him in the role or create a whole new position. Which yeah, that's irrational. I understand that. How do you think we're being with making new community this year? Cause I know community was a big focus for us in our 2024 course. I've been trying. I've been making more friends that like don't have kids, but then I'm like,
Starting point is 00:55:11 I don't know how to hang out with them in a aspect like with you and our children because they're just like other, they're just guys that are single. Yeah, I feel like I want to parent them. And I'm like, wait, they're my age. Yeah, they're our same age, Abby. I'm like, they're like fun. I'm like, I think I need to invite them into the house and fix them some homemade dinner Like I have buddies that I'll go to the gym
Starting point is 00:55:28 Some lasagna I have a friend that I'll go to the skate park with now I have a friend that I'll go to the gym with I have a friend, um, well he's our friend Tanner who's like helping me film my music videos to promote my music So like it's funny, like all those people don't necessarily fit the best with like our whole family. Like it's better if you have people that also have a wife and a kid and then now we can all hang out
Starting point is 00:55:50 because their kid can play with our kid, the wife can talk to you. I can be friends with anybody Matt. You really can, you are good at that. Oh, I'm not trying to say that as like that. I'm saying like you can invite them over even if they don't have. What's funny though, sometimes I invite my friends over
Starting point is 00:56:02 and then you'll talk to them the whole time. But then, which is fine. Like sometimes I think I like you go quiet So then I get quite in the gap. Yeah, sometimes I'm like not present wait Do you think that I take over conversations? I dominate conversations. No, I don't think you do I think you're just really good with people and I think you're very personal and I think you're just fun to talk to you So I think that's just why I have I just think it's rude if they're in my house and I'm not talking to them. No you're definitely, we've talked about this too like there's been times that we've hung out with like with my parents and you were like I felt like I carried the mental load of that hangout.
Starting point is 00:56:32 No the social weight. The social weight because sometimes like I'm off in La La Land which is part of the reason. Well we were just talking about. Which is part of the reason why I started drinking alcohol more because when I have alcohol it loosens me up. My brain can shut off from work mode and I just You're making it sound like you get drunk. You have one. No, I have one drink and I do it It would be like once a week I guilted you though because I was like if you're gonna break dry January that was kind of toxic up Yeah, you did you break dry January for your guy friends Then you can break it for me because I made a fancy dinner for us and you can have a glass of wine with this meal that
Starting point is 00:57:07 dinner was sexy and we didn't even sleep together that night I mean we slept together in the same bed but like I don't know I just funny that it was like we had so much sexual tension and it was just like alright. It was in our day, you know, that was our day off It was our day off That was that meal was delicious though, I yeah, we I could have that every single week so Abby made White wine chicken. Yeah, I guess it's called what homemade mashed potatoes. It tastes like it's from the cheesecake factory green beans Absolutely phenomenal one of the best dinners you've ever made Hands down. Thank you
Starting point is 00:57:48 And I'll be honest the wine paired very nicely with the dinner because it was the same wine that was in the chicken Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, okay, and that was indeed My fifth alcohol beverage of dry January something really cool that happened recently is that Matt's song went trending on Instagram. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. I feel like it has to feel so validating for all of those people to be using your audio to, I don't know, basically like bookmark
Starting point is 00:58:18 very important moments in their life. Yeah, I feel like super, super thankful because that, the song I like right now, this is one that I actually wrote a couple months back and like just recently for whatever reason it went trending. It's kind of cool how social media works that way. Something that you put out a while ago can just all of a sudden go trending. But a lot of people were using the sound and making videos to talk about how they like
Starting point is 00:58:42 their current life circumstances good or bad. And it's really cool to see so many from people from different walks of life sharing like what they're thankful for essentially it's basically like a song of being like I'm thankful for right now I'm happy that I have this beautiful life that I have and I'm choosing to be thankful in my current life circumstances because I don't know what the future holds and I can't go reverse time so I'm gonna be happy in the here now so it's just been really inspiring to see like people who have had fertility issues people that have you
Starting point is 00:59:13 know had different illnesses in their life people that have like I don't know had some catastrophic event happen in their life but now they've come a long way and they're like I like right now and it's just cool to see how everyone's story is completely different and how the song ties indirectly to their story. So- My favorite one though, I literally, sorry I always do this, I always switch my favorites
Starting point is 00:59:34 the most recent one you've had, but really your most recent one is my favorite. Oh, the most recent song. Yes, because I can just see people like anyone that's getting married in 2024, send Matt's most recent song. What's it called again? Give me your worst.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Give me your worst. Yeah. Send, give me your worst by Matt Howard on Spotify to them because I'm telling you it is going to be an amazing wedding song, first dance song. I love the message behind it. I feel like it's genius, honestly. I know you wrote it with somebody, but like the lyrics of saying, give me your worst, or at least I'll try my,
Starting point is 01:00:07 or like, I'll give, wait, something about, like. Give me your bad days, mistakes, losing your cool in your library books that are long overdue when you're breaking apart. Yeah, I'll be the glue to your mess. At least I'll try my best to give me your worst How you say at least I'll try my best So give me your worst, best and worst
Starting point is 01:00:29 Like, it's just genius Thank you That was my idea I love how it's also like not your typical love song Because that is the most arguably romantic thing about marriage Is that like you're seeing each other through your worst moments Like my worst moments I've ever had my life have been with you yet You still love me
Starting point is 01:00:49 Like that you've seen me at my worst too We both see each other at our worst and there's something about that like that bonds you but also can make love just so much deeper That like obviously you're not typically thinking about those worst moments on a day like your wedding, but you're agreeing on your wedding day to go through those worst moments with that person. And what a beautiful, difficult commitment that is. You know what like the word, this is so morbid, but you know what the worst moment
Starting point is 01:01:18 I can possibly think about? Death. Like that, that to me, that's why in the song I was like- Why are you always hitting with a death conversation? Literally every single day of our life. That's why in verse two of the song, I'm like, till death to us part, maybe we can skip that part. Because it's like, I don't want to think about that. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's why watching the movie up, I literally was in tears when we watched the movie up. Because I'm like, I cannot wrap my brain around seeing the person that I love more than anything die.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And when you marry someone, like you're literally signing up for that. At least one of you is, you know what I'm saying? Like one of you is gonna go first. And that just, I don't know. I don't wanna think about that. Go ahead, does anyone else's husband do this? Or they give you an existential crisis
Starting point is 01:02:02 every single day of your life But the thing is okay. Here's the thing about life Abby What makes the good things good is the bad? We felt this in our yoga class. So like in the hot yoga class We got a little uncomfortable doing some like workout like stuff. We're doing like squats. We're sweating really hard We got a little uncomfortable then the like zen namaste peaceful moment at the very end was so good because we had just gone from being super hot sweaty and uncomfortable to now we're at namaste. We're relaxing. She was sprinkling us with this. No that's not. Was it you could let this water? Lavender oil? Lavender water. We got sprinkled with lavender water. It smelled so good in the room. My point being
Starting point is 01:02:48 Death is horrible. I don't even want to think about that. I hate that but Because we know that exists it makes our life meaningful It makes everything that we go through if one if none of us died, right? What would be the point like what would be the point of like being fully present right here with you right now in this moment, enjoying this time, right? Can you always hit me with these conversations on a random Sunday?
Starting point is 01:03:11 I have deep, I have these deep thoughts all the time. I don't know why, I just think about this crap. But it's like that's what makes life meaningful because like our time is so precious. And so that's why it's like, I want your best, so give me your worst. And I'll give you my best, so give me your worst. Like it's these contrasts of like,
Starting point is 01:03:31 to have the best things in life, they do not come without the bad things. It just doesn't exist, you know? Beautiful. That's my philosophical thoughts for the day. Philosophical? Philosophical. Philosophical. Philosophical, is that the word?
Starting point is 01:03:46 Oh my gosh, there's so many words I've met accidentally when Mrs. pronounced this. Inevitable. Inevitable, I'm sorry. I know how to pronounce it now. Wow, midwire? Well thank you. That really means a lot that you like that song. So that one is actually- I love it.
Starting point is 01:03:58 And I literally start humming it and I think it's like, I'm like, what is that song? I love it so much to the stuck in my head. Oh, yep That's my husband. He's a freaking artist that means a lot somebody you met Howard I will literally be in the front row if you ever perform with a big old picture of your head Picture of my head. I don't know. Why would you show your support to people? I don't know one time at my brother's football game his senior year of high school
Starting point is 01:04:24 We had these big blow up things of his face and we went to his football game with him I would do that for you. That's really nice. I get a shirt. I'll do that too. I'm gonna do that when you're an actress You'd be so good at it you're such a good act good. No, no, no stop it right there You're a phenomenal actress. You're very very good I actually want you to go with me to the, when I shoot my music videos, I want you to go with me because you're such a good actress. You can help me walk through to be a better actor. That's very sweet.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Because I'm an eh, I'm an eh actor. I can, I can do it, but it's like not that good. I have to do a bunch of takes to find. I just want to take acting classes. This is what I'm saying. But like you're, you're really, really talented. And it's part of the reason why you're so good at social media. Like you're just, you have this raw natural talent and you're very likable and you're very in tune with your emotions
Starting point is 01:05:09 You're just really really you're a phenomenal actress. You should totally you should totally get back in No, I don't need to do it like for pay or to like get a role even I just want to do acting classes again Because I just want to have I just want to do something part of the reason why I'm trying to do more the music stuff Though is like in my brain. I guess I consider Whatever the market deems as good to be good So it's like I could do this whole artist journey and not release the music and keep it to myself But something makes it more fun that like people are like actually listening to it And actually making videos on social media with the music, and they're actually gonna use my song as their first dance song.
Starting point is 01:05:47 You have guts, Matt Howard. Thank you. That's what I like about you. That's really nice of you. And you have balls. I have balls. I do actually have those. You do in a metaphorical sense have balls as well.
Starting point is 01:05:59 That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. Some big ones. Thanks honey. I love you, you're sexy. I love you so much sexy thank you guys for listening to this if you could please uh just like subscribe or something we appreciate that and we'll see you next week three two one peace out dudes

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