The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Bella & Dallin Lambert on Adopting, Infertility & Faking Pranks for Views

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

We sat down and chatted with our great friends Bella & Dallin Lambert who joined us on our sectional to tell us their exciting news... They're ADOPTING!!! We are so excited about this and happy for them and had sooo many questions that we asked in this episode. Make sure to rate our podcast and leave a review if you can, it really helps us out!

We are adopting a baby. We're gonna be free. We're gonna be free. It's happening. We're gonna be free. We have a crib. With infertility, it's like an if. But with adoption, it's going to happen.

And like when she said that, it just like hit me. We're so excited to bring home a baby, like a real life human baby. I feel like we were kind of just blinded by the views. Every prank that we post on our channel is state. And every prank that we've participated in was staged. Yeah. So with other creators, you're faking these videos and it's just like 100%

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I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry. Wait, Bella, have you listened to every episode? I have. Every one. I'll be honest, I think I've seen every episode as well. Yeah, really?

I'm not even kidding. Wait, you've seen every episode down? I really think I have. I feel, I feel really special. You guys sent me one of the episodes before it came out, the cancellation one, and I cried myself to sleep watching that one. Oh!

It was a really good episode, I really loved it, so. We were really scared to post that, so you letting us know that, I don't know, you watching that meant a lot, and then you saying what you said after watching the episode meant a lot, too, so. Give us the brain-free, it was good, and don't make me cry like that again.

Well, it's fucking. Yeah, so stoked to have you guys. I feel like we should give a little background of your story before we get into it. I mean, you guys, hey, I know what I was. Today, I have every single guest we've had on the podcast has a wait until marriage. Is that not wild? Wait, that's not wild. What in the wholesome?

Yeah, because you guys, wait, did you guys wait until marriage? Yeah, we did. Okay, we need to probably like have some more varieties. So, could you guys actually, could we get some other guests on here? Yeah, I'm guys, wait, did you guys wait for me? Yeah, we did. Okay, we need to probably like, Yeah, we did. Have some more varieties, so could you guys actually, could we get some other guests on here? Yeah, I'm not a fan of her out of here. Yeah, you should get up a little bit. Oh my God.

That's fine. Well, we need to start back with like the beginning of like your guys' story. Okay. Like even before you guys met, because Bella specifically has some very cool things she's done in her life. Oh my God. Can I talk about your business a little bit?

Yeah, so I've been a business owner since I was 14. I'm 26 now and I have a business called, originally was origami al, but now it's called think goodness, we have a couple different brands under the think goodness umbrella. And I've been doing that since I was 14. I did not expect it to take off like it did. And it kinda just blew up and I've just been doing it

ever since and I love it and it's just it's been it's been a crazy journey really. Bell is really humble when she talks about it but she freaking crashes it. Yeah, she crashes it. Well you're so humble that which we'll get into this later like how we first met you guys but when you guys we were in Disney World and you gave me a necklace and I was you're like my business and I was like oh, you're like just like my business. And I was like, oh, I'll share about it. Like, help her business. No, literally her business is like meh.

We thought you had a like a small Etsy shop and we're like, oh, this is really cute jewelry. That's like everyone thing. We thought it looked like really good and we're like, we should support her small Etsy shop. And we look at it like holy fric like this girl's business. This is huge. This is not like, this is not a coincidence,

but I feel like every single person that really not like down talks himself, but like, I don't know they're extremely humble. Yeah. Has like the biggest stuff behind them. Like they've done the coolest thing. That's what I like about you Bella, is you're very humble, but like.

You guys, I didn't know I was gonna be like, I don't know, but like, no, you're very humble. We just got Bella of the whole. I was like feeling good right now. You're probably, I'll be honest no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're authentic and I like that about you So yeah, well, thank you guys are cool. Thank you guys. That's so nice actually funny funny story when I first met Dalin so we met I had a party at my house and he walked in with his girlfriend at the time and Yeah, yeah, this is wait, okay, okay, let me defend myself We were going through a breakup pretty much. Oh, yeah.

Like we were, this girl and I were pretty much, it was the end of our relationship. Oh, okay. We went to this party and- We were friends for a whole year before we started dating, but for the longest time, I didn't want any of the guys that I dated to know like that my company was successful.

Because I didn't want them to like me for the wrong reasons. No, yeah. So I told him that I worked at H&M. And I tried to... So listen to this then. I thought the bell worked at H&M. We start dating and Bella has a convention where everyone in the company, there's like 4,000 people,

they rent out a hotel and these 4,000 people come and come to listen to Bella speak. And Bella brought me to this convention without having any idea. And I walk in the first day, and they swarm Bella to take pictures, and I'm like, what are you? What is going on? I was mind blown.

He's like, wait, so you don't work at H&M? That's what you found out? That's what pretty much when I found out. I'm pretty much right around that same time. I was like, okay, so I actually speak at these events. Do you want to come? Yeah. He came and-

I was mind blown. And then he fell in love with me. He was getting mad. So how long were you guys together before you found out that she owned this successful business? And that was only like a couple of weeks after we started dating. Yeah. That I was.

It was pretty quick. We were friends for a whole year. We would actually go on like group dates and he would be with another girl. I would be with another guy. Yeah. So it's kind of funny were friends for a whole year. We would actually go on like group dates and he would be with another girl. I would be with another guy. Yeah. So it's kind of funny, like for a whole year. I was pretty much waiting for my time. For a year.

Oh, why? And then you started in line. Then you guys started dating and how long did you guys go from dating till engaged till, you know, being married? When we first started dating, this I have to say. Like, do you know the dates? Yes, I know the dates. You're kidding.

When we first started dating, Down and looked at me and he was like, mark my words within the next six months will be engaged. And I laughed so loud. I thought that was the funniest thing because I'm like, there's no chance for getting engaged in six months. Like you're crazy. And then exactly six months later, he proposed and I said, yes.

It was pretty close. It was pretty much within the six months later. And then we got married three months after that. We had a very short engagement. And you had the most epic wedding. Literally, I wish that we were friends that night. I know. I know. What year was that again?

2017. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we were. Well, it was a carnival themed wedding. It was a carnival. It was a fairs wheel. It was like a party.

It was so fun. We had food trucks, a fairs wheel, swings, the hammer ride. was so fun. We had food trucks a fair wheel swings the hammer ride. It was just like a big party. We actually catered canes and you know canes chicken. That was like our favorite. So we had like you know it was just a big party. We don't want to do the whole traditional. Yeah. You guys should do it 10 year. And you guys will be invited. You guys. Yeah, you guys should do it 10 year. We're going to. Oh, you guys will be invited. You guys are. Yeah. Yes. We're going to rent out that same carnival. We have to do it. Wait, that's so fun. You want another crazy story? What? As well, this is pretty wild. The first date we ever went on, we ended up going to a carnival. Oh, cool. And that carnival that we were at in like a Walmart

parking lot was the same carnival that was out our wedding. Yeah, just close the money. Same workers and same rights. Whoa. Isn't that pretty wild? It was meant to be. Damn. You guys are some of like the luckiest people. It's pretty.

Like you have so many coincidences and like things just align. Dalin is the most lucky guy I've ever met in my life. That's how it's like Matt and I have two. He is so lucky. I don't understand. Like good things just come to Dalin. Well, recently, not too long ago, talk about you being on Mr. Beast. Well, yeah, you, what, Dalin won a Mr. Beast video.

Go watch it. It's Mr. Beast chocolate factory video, where he launched his brand Feastables. That's crazy that you won that, bro. You won $500,000. No, what's crazy is that. And everyone thinks it's fake. No, that was real. It was real. It's $500,000. No, what's crazy is that. And everyone thinks it's fake. No, that is fake.

It was real. It was real. And you got picked completely random, which is insane. Because you guys bought 300 dollars in Mr. Beast chocolate. And then you just made a fun video buying the chocolate, thinking this is fun. I want to win a jet ski or a Tesla or some merch. I don't even know what to do.

But if you put a shot at this, why not? And then we just did that. But you did buy a lot of chalk. How much did you buy? We bought a lot of it. Like $300 worth. I mean, we're in the right. It was like $400, $500 maybe.

Okay. That's about a lot of chalk. Let's just say we still have a lot of feastable. You up on it. Wait, but that paid off. It paid off. It was the best mint. It was an investment.

You guys want to share, actually really like the chocolates. So that'd be awesome. You can have as much as you can. I got gay bus like 20 bars and we ate it all. Yeah, it's really good. And we still have a connect, so. Oh, yeah.

Quick phone call, you know? Do you have Mr. Beast phone number? I cannot deny it, I'm confirmed. Wait, do you actually have Mr. Beast phone number? Not Mr. Beast himself, but. Do you have his manager's phone number? I could get a whole of Mr. Beast if I wanted to. No way.

That was really good. They recently requested, he requested that Dalin was in, they just did like a promo video where they gave a Tesla. And requested that Dalin was in, they just did like a promo video where they gave a Tesla. And they had Dalin fly out to give the Tesla because mischievous couldn't be there. It was in New York with Bella. He was the runner up.

I was doing a show out, or not a show, some business stuff out there. And I just randomly get a call and they're like, can you be in Salt Lake City tomorrow? We want you to give away a Tesla. He was like, bet. Yes, I'll be there. I'll be there.

With a flight right there, red night, or red eye home. So when you're giving away these test. He was like bet. Yes, I'll be right there. I'll be there. I'll be there. Red night or red eye home. So when you're giving away these Tesla's four Mr. Beast, are you paying for your plane tickets to fly out there? Or how does that work? No, so that one I did. And they're like, so they thought I was in Utah at that time. And that's why they reached out. I was like, I'm not there, but I'll be there.

I'll be there. It'll work. Well, you know, because then I got to reconnect with his manager out there, I got to reconnect and just talk. We hung out for a while. His team is so sweet. It'll work. It'll work. Because then I got to reconnect with like his manager out there. Yeah, sure. And like just talk. We hung out for a while. His team is so sweet. We love them.

They're so nice. Oh my gosh. Yeah, they're really cool. That's a really cool opportunity. I would have talked for like two hours about that experience. It was obviously really fresh. Even people were saying that it was fake, but it was also kind of funny. Just because it's like it's down like he's just this.

It's funny. I know. It's funny. I feel I know. I love the prop. Yeah. It's down like he's just this. What do you do? It's funny because he's like Bella. I feel I know. I love the pride. He's the double. Yeah. It's wild.

I've actually heard Mr. Beast like gives away less money than he could because if he gives away say a million dollars, like people will actually think it's fake. So he only does, I've heard he just does like 500,000. Yeah. Because if he does more people like, oh, that's just fake. Well, I've heard too is like 500,000 apparently in the title performs better than a million.

Oh, you're right. Like, it's a bigger number, like, a bigger number, and like, more people click on a video if they see 500,000 compared to a million. I don't know, it's wild. He thinks that all of that is just next level. I still cannot believe you were in a Mr. B. I knew you.

How many views does that have? Does that video have? Well, that's not my check. It was like 180 million no 180 million yeah, yeah, 180 million Me watching that I was supposed to wait for Matt. He was gone. I couldn't We need a post on your guys Instagram because we have the video of you watching it You say a video of your watching it. Oh really? So funny.

You sent me a video of your reaction. I think you were crying. Yeah. You guys are awesome. I was like, because before I was trying to get it out of you, I was like, did you win? And you had to do it. I didn't tell anybody.

I didn't tell my parents that I won. I didn't tell any siblings. I didn't tell anybody that I won. I was dying. I didn't want to ruin the video. I wanted to be cool. And by not telling anybody, they thought I lost. I totally thought that was.

I thought you got in the top five or something. Yeah, everybody thought the same thing. And so it made me even better when that video dropped, due to my phone blew up. People were just like, oh my gosh, this is insane. It was so amazing. I was going crazy. And when the challenges came up,

it was like, for the rock climbing one, I was like, he rock climbs a lot. You know, he's got this. Yeah, I mean, we was like, for the rock climbing one, I was like, he rock climbs a lot. He's got this. Yeah, I mean, we honestly could talk for hours about that. It was pretty wild. And you were so hard for that, bro. I can't imagine you ate a pound of chocolate or something crazy.

I did. And threw it all up that night. He was so sick. Oh my gosh, shit, I was so sick. Dude, I was not losing. It didn't matter what I needed to do. I went into there, I will win this. Like it didn't matter.

He like looked at himself in the mirror before he went. He's like you are going to like you've got this. Like he was like hyping himself up. He was meditating. You're like, yeah, he could tell you were like. He was watching. I was longing. And we were in the green room behind

like waiting for a challenge. And I'm just sitting there like a focus. Everyone's like eating like chocolate and like hanging out. And like what's wrong with him and Bell's like don't talk to him. Like he's in the zone right now. People probably thought I hated him but like I wasn't there to make friends. I was there to wait half a million dollars. I love that.

And he did. Love that. And he's also Gordon Ramsay's nephew so it's kind of biased. Oh my god. People thought that you were Gordon Ramsay's nephew. And they're like it's fake. He's Gordon Ramsay's nephew that's fake This I don't even know how that began, but oh my god

I'm like another conspiracy that they thought that you are latest still people are like he only one cuz Gordon Ramsey's my parents my parents are getting approached and being like all the time Which one of you is related to Gordon Ramsey? I'm like what are you talking about? I'm like yeah, yeah It's pretty wild. We should put all of Dallin's doppelgangers. What did they say, John Cena? Yeah, I get John Cena all the time.

There was someone else too. Who else? Oh, Ferb, because I belong to. From Phidios and Ferb. It's crazy how it's so mean. I don't think you can. Because there are people that do fake videos. It's crazy that you have all these people that are like,

oh, everything's fake. Mr. Beast videos are fake. Yeah. The winner of Mr. Beast videos fake because it's Gordon Ramsay's nephew and it's like all these fake. All these lies come up on a true video because people have ruined it for other people.

This is something that's really cool too about Mr. Beast, part of that video, was when he handed me the deed to the property, because you could either win the chocolate factory or I could sell it back to him for $500,000. He handed me an envelope and written on it was it's a deed of the property. And I was like, there's no way that actually

in this envelope is the real deed. You know, because it's just an envelope. No, whatever, no. I open it up, I pull out a packet. It is the actual deed of the property signed by Jimmy Donaldson. No. And I approach him. I'm like, dude, you really put the real deed of the property signed by Jimmy Donaldson. No, he does not fake anything.

I approach him. I'm like, dude, you really put the real deed in here? He's like, what do you mean? And I'm like, well, like, why would you not just have an empty envelope? He's like, well, I'm not gonna lie. And I'm like, I love that and I'm already. I love that respect.

And everyone's like, the- That was an eye opening. The $500,000 on the wagons. He's like, that was fake. I'm like, no, it wasn't. That was- That's the first question everybody asked. Was The $500,000 on the wagons, he's like, that was fake. I'm like, no, it wasn't. That was, that was, That's the first question everybody asked. Was that $500,000 on the wagon fake?

It was, Real dude. 100% real money. Real money. Like literally, I've chills. Literally, I literally have chills. Every single thing he does is real. Why am I tearing up right now?

This is like, I'm drinking an energy drink right now. And it's really, You guys Matt has been on for three hours. It's three hours, they need to drink. But going back to the original thing, I'm the luckiest guy ever. I have this girl.

She is so successful, she's awesome. And I'm just so. You guys really are eight power couple things. Thank you. And then we met you guys. We went to go into that story. Oh my gosh, I did meet. I did meet.

So we were, I have to say, I'm so excited to talk about this. What? What? I will never forget the first time that we met you on Zoom, okay? We had a Zoom call set up with the Disney employees. I remember you guys. All the people who were invited to go on this Disney trip.

What? I'll never forget. I see. So I was curious of who was going to be on that call because it was just like coordinating like the Disney trip. And your guys' picture, you guys were sitting there and you guys were like bouncing up and down, smiling ear to ear.

And every time they're like, okay, in this week, for the, first of all, everybody's stone cold on that. Like it's just like sitting there, like chilling. It's dope. And then, every time they're like, and then we're gonna ride Splash Mountain. You guys would be like, yeah! Yeah!

That's true. At the end of the video, the people who were coordinating the call were like, we just gotta give a shout out. Matt and Abby, you guys are like the most hot in this trip. Yeah, I remember that. And then I remember that call. And did I look to Don,

I'm like, we need to be friends with them. Like that's the kind of friends I need in my life. Yeah, so sweet. Ben, so. You guys are always like, I'm not all annoying for you guys. I have to, I just like have to give you guys some kudos because you guys are the most genuine people

I have ever met. And you guys are just truly yourself. Like it just shows, like in that Zoom call, I was like, because just like you said, like sometimes you might wonder, like, oh, is that video fake, is that stage? And like I definitely had my suspicions for a minute. I'm like, maybe they do like fake some of their videos

or something. But then when I see you guys on that Zoom call a minute. I'm like maybe they do like fake some of their videos or something, but then when I see you guys on that Zoom call, you guys are just like stoked on life. I just love it. I'll be honest with you, there was one time, I remember this TikTok specifically, we did a TikTok back in like May of 2020, and there was this, I saw this creator make this video where it got legit like 80 million views.

And we had like 50,000 followers, and I was like, how 80 million views? Like what do you do? And it was clearly faked. And I'm like, okay, like do people actually fake their videos for views? And I'm like, I don't like that. And but we did it.

And it was this thing where you chop off, you pretend to chop off your finger and put ketchup there. Well, I did it. And then the video we posted it, and I felt bad about it. And the video got a million views. And it was still growing. Well, I did it and then the video we posted it and I felt bad about it and the video got a million views and it was still going.

No, a lot way more. I may be two million, I don't know, but I felt weird about it. We felt ill. I felt really ill about it. So then we deleted it. And we deleted it. And it was like, it was that moment where I was like,

I don't think I can do this. But the thing that's kind of crazy about it is that no one in the comments. So people in the comments of like our other videos, they'd be like, this is so fake and it's frustrating because it's real. Because it was real. This video, no comments like that, that I were watching.

And so then I was like, what is that? That's so wild. I've started to think about this more and more because I also keep wondering, I'm like, why do I not keep freaking getting hate? And then it's because when you're posting something that's not perfectly curated, we're not thinking through everything all the time

to be like, oh, you're gonna say this, and then I'll say this, and then I'll do this, then you're just opening yourself up. You're in two. And in the beginning, when you're a really small creator, like you're desperate, you want views because you wanna try to make it work, you wanna be successful in it.

And so there's that, and I wanna say there might have been two, maybe three other videos where I wanna say there might have been like two, maybe three other videos where like, I don't know, like one time Abby pranked me and she like legitimately got me, wasn't recording. She's like, can you just like do that reaction yet? And I did. And I still felt bad about that.

But like, dude, I don't know like, doing this. The camera was flipped, I remember. Oh yeah, you flipped it was on your face. But like, I really appreciate you saying that though, because it sucks when we'll get someone who says like, oh, they're faking this and it's like, no, we're not. Like these are real genuine videos, these are our lives. And it sucks too, me get hate because like we are so vulnerable,

we are so like just ourselves. That's why I was scared to post that cancellation video because it was just what happened like 100%. And being in like the social media world of like the last like four or five years It's hard to find people like you guys. It's very hard. It's it's like I also think like that's also could be why you guys get so much hate because you guys stand out heavily with like the realness and like how genuine you guys actually are and so I just think like

You're an easy target because you guys are so vulnerable and genuine nobody else I can't say nobody, but you guys it's just hard to come across people like that out there on social media And I say sming dude. I don't think I've ever told you guys this and I like oh my gosh I'm nervous. Well me first met you as a Disney. Yeah, I thought you guys were so cool I thought you're so genuine. I really liked you guys. I like you guys as friends. I thought you're a country singer I don't know why but I was like the pink room You're in and the piano which now that I've been doing house. I like know where you were And I was like man she just has a pink house and that felt and she's making your song

I don't know why I swap it thing is the piano too. Yeah, so sorry But I really liked you guys and I thought you guys were so cool But I was like why are they doing these these prank videos that like to me They look staged and they looked and they looked and they looked fake I don't want to be, I don't want to be, Vellik is a good idea. And you guys, your content has changed drastically over the past two years. We should talk about that for a second. When we first met you guys, you guys were all in, it was like prank, prank, prank.

We didn't post it a prank in over a year. You're kidding. I look back, I look back and it's been like a year and four months. Did you post it in Frank? We post it in single print. Yeah, and we should talk about that first. Did you guys fake those? Like, or like if you did, like how much?

Like I don't know, do you feel comfortable answering that? I feel comfortable answering that because we're so far, we haven't done a prank in so long. We, yeah, there was this time in our life where I feel like we were kind of just blinded by the views, like, especially with social media and like YouTube, and your experiencing growth on these videos, like, it's so crazy

because sometimes videos that you like want to do good and you actually are like being real and raw, they don't do good, but then you post a prank video and it's a million views. So you get blinded for a minute. You're like, I'm making money, I'm also getting all these views and you just start getting into that world of faking videos

and there was a time where we did fake a lot of our videos. No, like we fake every single video. Pretty much every prank that we post on our channel is staged. And every prank that we participated in was staged. With other creators, you're faking these videos and it's just like, whatever.

What do you do? I was actually watching a podcast earlier, a different one and some of these other big creators that were creating content, I don't know, six or seven years ago, the first era of pranks, they've all came out and admitted that they were going on Craigslist and finding like, yeah, like,

Roman. I wanna talk about the Logan Paul one. He made a video where he got colorblind glasses and he goes, he's colorblind. He puts the colorblind glasses on and he starts sobbing. He's like, I've never seen color like this before. And then he come to find out he didn't see anything differently.

It was all fake. And he had made that video. I actually like teared up watching that video. I remember watching that back in the day. I was like, it must be so beautiful like to see the world so differently. And he's like, yeah, I didn't see anything differently. It was all, but he got so many views on that video. And he even talks about this, like, I feel like you just get blinded by the money,

the success, the views. And I feel really bad about it now, like looking back. And I am so happy we've evolved into what we're in now. We post our infertility struggles, we post our real and raw moments in our life. And honestly, we haven't even posted that much on YouTube lately because we only post moments when we're like really passionate about it

or really happy. And so yeah, there was a time where we staged everything and I feel really proud about it. I honestly, I have like a guilty conscience when it comes to thinking back to that time. I don't know, it's also like, we were taught that way as well. I think when you're surrounded by that world, like somehow we got into this like group of couples

and creators that that's what they were doing. And so just being around it, I remember when we were like the first week of doing these pranks, I went to bond, I was like, I hate this, like I'm not an actor, I don't wanna stage this stuff. And to like, I was like, I hate this. I'm not an actor, I don't want to stage this stuff. And two like- And I felt like everybody could tell they were fake anyway.

They were so cringy. I'm like, how can people not tell, but for some reason? Like a lot of people didn't realize. I guess if you're just not in that space, you don't notice when stuff is staged, but we notice it more now because we are creators and we do this. Yeah.

You can spot the bluff. Yeah, you can. Yeah, so, I mean, we just massively exposed ourselves. Well, I think, well, have you ever, have you ever like admitted that? We've never, ever, ever. No, no, no, no. Social media never. For the first time, you're like,

I want to see shaking a little bit, think, do like, talking about this. Is that scary? Does that feel? I have a little bit of anxiety. It's like, it's not really that scary because I don't, I don't regret it. Like, that was our past.

That was an era. It feels like that time was like coming on. How did that feel though when people would like walk up to be like, I watch your videos. Wait, can I get into that first. That was our past. That was an era. It feels like that time was coming on. How did that feel though when people would walk up to be like, I watch your videos? Can I get into that first? I remember whenever we would meet someone new and they're like, what do you guys do? I would always have to jump and say, talk about my business first, because I was so embarrassed. I was so scared that they were going to look our channel up and see passing out in my husband's arms or throwing up in front of my husband

to get his reaction. Or like I started my period, cute reaction from husband. Like, wow, you're going off. I'm so, I know, but it's like crazy to think back to like the fact that we posted that. I'm like so embarrassed. And I remember like looking up down and being like, don't tell them that we do YouTube

because they're gonna look at our videos. We were talking, we were talking, we were talking. We were talking, we were talking, we do YouTube because they're gonna look at our videos. You're talking, you're talking, you didn't know how to tell people. I did not want people to know I was so embarrassed. But we were getting so many views and we were making pretty good money from the monetization.

And now I'm like, we need to somehow donate some of that money. It just doesn't feel right. Yeah, and you're just, you're blinded. So you're getting all these views, you're faking these pranks, you're getting all these views and like blinded. I'm getting fired up now.

I know, I could tell. You need to talk about how we would justify it because that's the most interesting thing. How did you, wait, yeah, how did you justify that? Well, one like being around, like I was saying earlier, like being around a bunch of people that were doing that, you kinda just like, think it's normal. You feel like it's like everybody else is doing it, so kind of just like, think it's normal. You feel like it's like everybody else is doing it,

so it's fine. It's normal. And also like, well, another thing too is like, I was told in an analogy of like the WWE, like, that's all fake, and that's all acting and it's better tame in. It's like a billion dollar industry.

And like, we're just being entertainers, we're just being like content creators, just fun, it's just fun in games. And like, I believe that at the time. But like looking back on that now, that knowledge is terrible. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense because these WWE superstars putting on a character and being a different person than what they are.

But us in these videos, we're the main character. They think that's who we really are. Yeah, and we're acting differently on camera than what we are in person. Yeah. And that's the big issue there. It's crazy. How sexual the pranks get to. Can I ever sing? That was such a big issue. Dude, can I say this to you? Like, when you look at some of these fake pranks with like couple channels, you'll see like moaning ones are like, oh my god. Oh, I don't even know the door lock. That was a big one. I've there's like hundreds of like crime or not crime with the door lock. Well, that's cheating with the door lock. That was a big one. There's like hundreds of like crying with the door lock. Well that's cheating with the door lock.

Is that what it's called? We have never done a cheating prank. We decided never do cheating. I'm about to say that. The two things. We actually had a limit. There was a limit. Like we both agreed in the very beginning.

We will never do a cheating prank. That doesn't feel right to us to do. You're married. We're married. So you're faking all these things, but you're like, you know what, the fake cheating one? We can't do that. I'm not right. I have never said this out loud either,

but I actually at the time, we had, this is gonna, this sounds so bad, but we had someone tell us, because there was a time where maybe we weren't getting as many views. We were doing a video and I asked them, I'm like, why did this one not get as many views? And they're like, well, you need to make this more sexual.

Like, you need the thumbnail. If you want kids to click on this, you need the thumbnail to look more sexual. And so I think what's scary is like, I think people know that kids would like that. That's why they do the cheating and that's why they do the sexual. Well, kids are, no no adults watching these prank videos.

No adult is watching these prank videos. That's when I had to like take a look back at what we were doing and I'm like, wait, are we pushing the line? Like is this going too far? If kids are like gonna be like watching this, like I don't feel good about this anymore and that's when we vowed we were not gonna do

pranks anymore, we decided we actually, I have to be honest, like we got very inspired by you guys. You were some of the first creators that we saw where we were like, they're so real and genuine. I feel like I could actually cry talking about this because it was so eye opening to finally feel like I had seen someone who I could look up to in social media and like wanna be like.

And I remember telling down, I was like, we need to be like Matt and Abby. Like they're so genuine and so real. And ever since we met you guys, I was like, we need to be like Matt and Abby. Like, they're so genuine and so real. And ever since we met you guys, I feel like we have shifted our content because we've been inspired by you. And now we're, we feel really proud of our content. And you guys should go check out our channel

because I'm proud of it. I love that. I love our videos. I love it as much. It's one of you say that because the creator that did that for me, which like, our videos are real, but I was like, I want them to be more. I don't want them but I was like, I want them to be more,

I don't want them just to be real, I want them to like do good. And I'm like, what's the direction we can move in? And Ryan Trayhan is a YouTuber that like does good with his videos and he like fund raises and does all these things and like, I'm so inspired by that and I wanna do, like I wanna have the approach more like this year

and for the years to come, like how can we like, actually make the world better with our videos? And I think our videos bring positivity to the world, but I wanna do even more than that. How can we actually see actual real change? And so that's my goal, it's to bring about real good change in our world through the content we put out.

You know what I'm saying? You can definitely feel that as well. You can feel it. I think it's so, I feel like it's misleading because a lot of content creators don't think that that as well. You can feel it. I think it's like so, I feel like it's misleading because a lot of the content creators don't think that the viewers have a feeling. Which is funny because it goes in the reverse too. Exactly, yeah.

Like as a viewer, you can feel when someone wants to do good, you can feel the intention that the content creators putting off. And so when people are doing like these fake pranks or like, I don't know, like, I don't wanna do anything specific because then people are gonna come at me with like, I'm targeting someone.

But like, any sort of video out there that's just a bad intention, the viewer can feel it, 100%. And that's why like Bella, like we love your guys' content. We keep saying that, but like, we do, because it puts off such a good intention, like a good feeling, like good vibes,

and there's other creators out there that do the same thing, but they're just minimal, they're hard to find. Yeah, that's really nice of you. That's really nice. I think it's just scary when it's like talking about kids, though, because it's like, I don't know. Like having a kid, you're kind of like,

okay, that's like, there's so whole world on the internet. I would never let my kid watch those videos. Those sexual, yeah. No, it makes me feel like sick thinking that we were in that world, that we were surrounded by that. And I feel like it's just wild. We got so blinded and man, looking back,

I just, I feel so sad that we got blinded and that was a time of our, in our life, but I'm happy that we got out of it. And now we're like, only doing real stuff. And I cannot believe we just talked about that on your podcast. And you make you feel better. We've made some horrifying videos. And I'm sure we put it in.

I'm sure we put it in. Because in the beginning, you're just trying to grow and you don't know what the freak you're doing. And so you do some weird trends. And yeah, it's not a fake video, but it's just like, I don't know, it's cringey. And then you're like, wow, that's a cringey video. But you had your comfort zone a little bit.

Yeah, we did this, have Emily. I should have deleted that a little. Yeah, yeah, you just learn as you grow. And like, I don't know, I'm very, I admire you guys for going through, I mean, I'm sure your viewership drops. I'm sure when you stop doing that. That was really hard, actually.

Like when Bella and I were like, we are done doing this. I remember we like sat down, we're like, we're like, we're never posting a prank again. We're never ever again. And then we, it's hard because when you're doing content over and over daily of the same thing, it's really hard to shift your mindset

and start being like, whoa, like we want to do real and like trying to find video ideas of things to do. And when we made that shift, our viewership dropped. Massive. We were getting no views on our videos on the subject. But that's the sacrifice we had to make in order to change. And now I feel like we've grown a whole new audience. So it was worth it in the end.

It was 100% worth it. It was like six months of like our viewership went from like, like let's say we got 100,000 views, we had like 10,000 views. Like it was like overnight. But I also think that's why these couples don't get out of doing these pranks. I really believe these couples don't enjoy doing that.

Yeah. Because a majority of them have come out and said, guys, we're gonna stop doing pranks. It takes a toll on our relationship, blah, blah, blah. They say that. Yeah. And then, Bell and I look at each other, and give it a week.

Yeah. And then they post random videos throughout the week. Their viewership drops. And then within one week, they're right back to posting pranks. Well, I think it's incredibly manipulative too, to like, I don't know, if you're like faking these pranks to then just like try to pretend to be authentic

and then go right back into faking pranks. Yeah. That's, that is upsetting. Confuses the viewer I think. I think even some adults don't realize that like, totally. It's not even just kidding. Yeah, it's everyone.

But like Bella said, we're super proud of our content now. Yeah. We were able to share our whole infertility journey and we went through all of that and we honestly grew an incredible audience. Like it makes me like wanna cry because like when we're at like some of our lowest moments our like YouTube community lifted us up. And it was incredible.

I don't know what we would have done during our infertility if we didn't have that community. And I think that's also like one of the biggest reasons we wanted to start posting videos about our infertility if we didn't have that community. And I think that's also like one of the biggest reasons we wanted to start posting videos about our infertility. We actually hid that we were struggling to get pregnant for about two years. We didn't tell anybody, not even our family. And then I started feeling so alone.

Like I felt like there's no one else out there who understands me and I, wow, why am I gonna cry? But I just remember feeling like, if I'm feeling like this, I don't want anyone else to feel like this. Like, I want other people to see people posting about this. So I started posting my journey even though I was so scared out of my mind.

That was the scariest video we've ever posted. I sat there on the couch just like, when we posted that, we were struggling with infertility. And then the reaction we got was the best reaction ever. I've never received a reaction like that. And during our first round of IVF, every night, I would read the comments and I couldn't find a single mean comment. It was people like, we're cheering you on.

You've got this and I just felt like it was just the best. It was really cool. It was really cool. That's so cool. It was so worth it to switch our content just for that alone. Like if it was just for that, I feel like so happy about that. Well, you guys bring so much hope to people like seeing that they're not alone. Like because I remember you guys telling us about a year ago, and I was shocked.

Like I was completely shocked. I had never even like thought about that. And I was like, and I just felt horrible for you guys like because I know like, I can't, I don't know. I don't know what that's like. Like I have not been down that path. And so you guys don't know what that's like. No! Oh my gosh. We can joke about it. Oh my god. We can joke about it. I don't know what that's like like I have not been down that path and so you guys don't know what that's like We could joke about it. Oh my god. Oh

You guys are the people we don't like you guys You guys think about a kid in oh, we're pregnant. Yeah, I think we have the opposite problem Maybe I can't let them say this you know, I said like initially which like When when Abby and I live with the surprise pregnancy at first. I was like it's so weird that like like at Dell Have the opposite problem as us like like I'm like what if we just like I wish we could just like snap our fingers Like boom. I just get someone Honestly, I don't be honest with you guys. You guys were like the first people I thought about like literally that same day I was like not like what in the world. I was like, why can't like this is so like, why is it world, why is the universe so cruel?

You know, I'm like, I wanted you guys to be pregnant. Okay, not to say that we're not. No, no, no, no, we're so excited. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're this baby, but like, I was like, why, like, why is it working out this way? When it's like, it's a surprise for us, but like I wanted that for you guys.

I wanted you guys to be pregnant, you know what I'm saying? It's so wild, yeah, and I do have to say, I don't know if you've ever mentioned this on anything, but you guys were so sweet with how you told us that you were pregnant because that's also... We really, really appreciate it. We really appreciated that. I think you guys, I don't, yeah, you don't understand

how much it means to me, how you told us. You guys texted us and we're like, you don't feel the need to respond right now. You could process this. We are pregnant. And I remember reading that and we're like, you don't feel the need to respond right now. You could process this. We are pregnant. And I remember reading that. I was like, Dylan, that is so nice that they even like thought,

like took the extra mile to like, write us out the sweetest message and make sure that we were okay. When this is such an exciting thing for you guys and we're so happy for you. What's kind of crazy is that you kind of knew I was pregnant before I told you. Yeah, I knew that.

I knew the whole way. I could tell before I told you Yeah, I knew the whole way I can tell I knew yeah, so we were And how like did you tell down after that? So this is exactly like 30 seconds afterwards On my microphone Are you okay? Yeah, it's your head okay? Your head so hard on my mic stand Are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay? Is your head okay? You just, you hit your head so hard on my mic stand.

I was really glad that I actually was. So what happened was we were filming a video for our friends, the Scorries. We were out of house. We never talked about this. We never talked about this. I don't think we, yeah. Oh man. We were at a bounce house and there was a sign.

We were about to start filming the video. They're like, okay, guys, three, two, one. And right before they said one, Abby looked at Matt. I'm standing right next to Abby. She's like, wait, Matt, three, two, one. And right before they said, one, Abby looked at Matt. I'm standing right next to Abby. She's like, wait, Matt, and she pointed to this sign. There's like this tiny sign on the bounce house. It was like, do not jump if pregnant.

And then it also said, do not jump if you have any medical. It gets like all the lives of life. It gets like only a three or four thing. I don't know. And then, you're like, Matt, is it okay? And then Matt looked at you and was like, honey, just take it super easy. Don't push your limits.

And then I looked at Dallin, I said, Matt and Abby are pregnant. And he was like, no, they're not. She probably just, probably cause her her- Well, because you're herniate surgery. And so I was like, no, no. I'm like, that's what it is. Like you're just worried about running, jumping off slides.

I was like, no, no, no, no. I can sniff it from a mile away. She's pregnant. And then, yeah, a couple weeks later, you're like, we're pregnant. Well, it's kind of awkward then, because I think I waited like, from a mile away. She's pregnant. And then, yeah, a couple weeks later, you're like, we're pregnant. Well, it's kind of awkward then, because I think I waited like over a month after that. We saw you guys a couple of times,

and I thought you were gonna tell us. Well, I kind of thought so too, but then I was like, then I was like, no, I don't think, I think it'd be better to text it, because I don't want you guys like reacting in front of us or like, try to feel like, anyway. We would have been, we are so happy to be here. No, and hindsight, knowing that you knew at those times, I wasn't telling I was like that was probably mean that no

I wasn't telling you we so early We understand I was just over here over thinking everything. It's like a weird hard like awkward situation for like both couples Like other people like we have had siblings my siblings like tell us that they're pregnant and like they feel really bad And we're super happy for them and it's just one of those scenes where really bad and we're super happy for them. And it's just one of those scenes where it's like, we're super happy for them and then we go in our bedroom and cry, because we wish it was us. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.

But it's like, yeah. I have to be honest, that's why I didn't want to do it in person, should I tell them? Yeah, we're being real here. I don't know what you're trying to say. I don't even cry. After you guys, so we read the Sun's game when we got the text and-

We shouldn't have known you're at the game day. No, it's okay. It's okay Yeah, I was like sobbing but it's not because I'm not happy for you Literally it's just like because I've had so many friends tell me lately that they're pregnant And I just like started having a pity party for myself. It's nothing to do because I'm very excited I need another baby to love on really really. It's the real thing. But like I was kind of upset. And I had a pity party for myself for a couple days. And then I was like, you know what?

No, this is exciting. I'm very happy. That's brave of you to admit that. But like, I can't believe I just told you. I didn't want to tell you. Because I know how you are. And you're going to feel bad about that. I'm going to get a text later.

You're going to be like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry about that. No, I was. No, see, like Bella, you truly are the best cheerleader. Like I'm so sorry I ruined your son's get. I'm so sorry about that. No, I was, I'm sorry. No, see, like, Bella and you truly are the best cheerleader of a friend, not just for me, but I can see how you love on your friends so genuinely and so all in, you're 100% throwing parties for things,

throwing, you are, I mean, just truly the most genuine and incredible friend. So it's like, you even say that, I know that's hard for you, but like, you also are so excited for us and rooting us on, even though, even within your difficult journey right now, it's so crazy.

You made a TikTok about this and you're so right. Like, Bella was there when you had your herniac surgery and she came over and made us a meal and like, took care of us. Bella was there when we moved into Phoenix and you brought us like a blanket and like a, a little basket with all these little goodies for us and like so You were there shortly after Griffin was born. It's like just hold him while we like did something like I love that You've just been there so much and like been there for Abby and like thank you

And just like and no one knows about it. It's not for show. It's not for show like it's just there's so there's not many people like that And I'm I'm not that person like I'm horrible at remembering like little details like that I don't know. Maybe it's my ADHD, but just like I can't play everything on ADHD But like the fact that you're just always thinking about like oh what's a gift I can get Abby like what can I do there? And like you're just that's that's really really cool you guys are so nice. I just love you guys Yeah, I love you guys so oh I really here We actually have a reason that we actually got them on the fuck up the main reason you're here Guys, I just love you guys. Yeah, love you guys. So oh Really

We actually got them on the I'm sweating the main reason you're here my heart is like literally beating so fast Your big They already know we've already told the world at this point The world knows but right now at the time we're filming No, nobody knows the time of filming We are gonna be parents soon. We are gonna be the three.

We are gonna be the three. We are gonna be the three. We are gonna be the three. Let's go. I never said we're gonna be parents soon. That's so weird. Oh my God. How does this sound?

You look like you're gonna cry, babe. No, I'm not. Oh, I'm so excited. I've never seen that. I've never seen that. Oh, it's like this. That sounds really cool to hear. We are adopting a baby.

Let's go. It's excited. It's so cute right hear. We are adopting a baby. Let's go! It's excited! So cute right now. Mom and Dad! Mom and Dad! This is the craziest thing that we've kept a secret for so long. We have been working on it. We've been working on it for how long?

It's been five months. We've been working on our adoption papers. We've finally submitted them. It's happening. Like, it's happening. We're going to be parents. We have a crib. It's so weird. Like, it's happening. We're gonna be parents, we have a crib. It's so weird, like we're doing this.

It's so sweet. We're gonna be a dad. Oh, I'm excited. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like it's just really cool. Four years of waiting for this. Even actually longer, five years. It's been almost five years.

Yeah, and it's coming. It was really cool. Our social worker, like someone that walks you through the whole process of adoption was like, with infertility, it's like an if. Yeah, and it's coming. It was really cool. Our social worker, someone that walks you through the whole process of adoption was like, with infertility, it's like an if. Yeah. But with adoption, it's a when. Like it's going to happen.

And when she said that, it just hit me. And it's like, more than anything, I'm just ready to see this girl be a mom. I can't wait. Oh my gosh, you guys. I got you. The day. It's so cute right now.

It's gonna be so cool. The day that happens, it's gonna be the best day. I don't think I've ever seen you this emotion. No, I don't know. I've seen Alan cried two times in our whole marriage. This is the third. This is insane. You're teary eyed right now.

I've never seen you like this. It's gonna be like, I'm so excited for you. You don't know how much this means to us. Bro, I'm so excited. This is like, this means everything to us. We like, I don't think anyone, unless you've gone through it, understands what it's like to go through infertility.

And like every month, like taking pregnancy tests and they're negative and like, just like literally just, it's a lot. And so now it's like weird because we, right now, as we're sitting here, there's a baby that is in someone's tummy that is going to be our baby, you know, and it's so wild to think about. It's happening.

It's really so crazy. It's happening. I'm going to be a mom, oh my gosh, that's so weird to say. It makes me also so mad. I mean, no. We can't do this. We're all going to be crying. Because it's like so terrible.

The whole time that you were feeling disappointment like so painful that like, wow. Like the whole time that like you were feeling disappointment like throughout this like fertility journey, like your baby was growing, like your baby was here and it's like so good. It made me cry. Yeah, that's so beautiful. Like when you think about it, like, that's amazing. No, the day that you guys told us Abby for a second was like, wait, like you guys texted us, like, are you free to call? And you never do that.

It was such. And Abby was like, you guys are in a white right? I thought you might have been mad at us for some reason. We were in the white, we had literally just filmed the podcast episode with Derek and Sarah Beeston. And I was like, wait, what are they pregnant? Like I was getting so excited. And then you guys tell us that you're adopting on the call

and I was even more excited. Yeah. This is the coolest thing. Like I think adoption is so cool, because yeah, you guys become appearance so dope, and then this kid gets a loving home of parents that really care about them,

and love them so much. I don't know, it's so sad when you hear about what happens in the foster care system, and like kids that are just like abandoned, and just like, that's so admirable, and I'm just really proud of you guys too, just for like This is just really freaking cool. Yeah, it's yeah, it's the craziest thing. I have to tell you how we landed on adoption. Yeah, because And this is but this was like the hardest decision we've ever made like hardest but easiest because it's just like when you're in

Infertility you just think like oh maybe next month will be the month maybe next month be the month and every time you just get Disappointed and let down and I remember we had just tried to start our third round of IVF I had done like six days of injections and I was feeling bloated and sick and like all the things that come along with that and I was waiting for a blood test to come back from our doctor to see if we could continue doing IVF because your levels have to be in a certain range to keep progressing and doing IVF. And we got the level back and it was the worst one we've ever had. It was like the time that we thought we should be getting the best level, we got the worst.

And me and Dallin just looked at each other. We were both really upset, obviously. I was crying and I just felt like at that point, I was like, man, a couple days prior to that, I had had a dream that I had adopted a baby and I was holding this adorable little adopted baby. And I just, in my dream, I knew it was adopted. It kind of went through the whole story and I just felt like this was my baby and I told

down right after waking up from that dream and I was like, I think we need to look into adoption. And you need to tell how you felt about that because I think it's hard to, because with infertility a lot of times it is the woman sharing their side, but you forget that it affects the couple, like the whole unit.

For me, Wimbledon approached me and said we need to look into adoption. Being completely honest, I was a little against it. Because I'm the type of person I don't like giving up and it felt like giving up and it felt like everything else failed and This was like our last option. Yeah, and like I feel like in the infertility world You kind of have like steps. It's like we're gonna do this procedure and then this one and then this one and this one

And then this one fails we're gonna do this one and adoption is the last thing Yeah, and so it kind of hit me like, oh my gosh, we failed at everything. This is our last option. We failed at bringing, having our own biological kid. And I don't know, I just like, I was kind of against it. And I just think like I had to, we ended up talking to like some close friends of ours

and they just kind of helped us understand that like, it's not giving up. They had adopted a baby. Yeah, and then they're like like it's not giving up. They had adopted a baby. Yeah, and then they're like it's not giving up and it's just could be a shift in plans. And after talking with them, I was like, I got extremely excited. And I was like, this is right. It all came together and felt right after just understanding that like there's other ways to start a family and grow a family and just changing my mindset a little bit.

I was like all on board with that. Yeah, I think, yeah, a lot of times you feel like adoption's giving up, but for us, it's like this new hope. I feel like we feel like there has been a scent, like a different feeling in our home ever since we started our adoption papers. Like I truly can say I've never been this happy in my life.

Like I feel like we're just both just like beaming all the time because we're so excited. We're setting up a crib together. It feels like a movie and I don't think it's actually hit me yet. I don't know if it's going to hit me until that baby is in our arms. But we just feel so happy and excited. We never want our child to feel like they weren't wanted because adoption is such a beautiful thing and we want this so much.

We're so excited to bring home a baby, like a real life human baby. That's crazy. I love that. I love how on top of it you guys are because like you guys have a crib setup, you guys have like baby clothes. You know what I'm saying? You guys are on top of it. You can have me with a lot of it.

We could get a baby, like the reality of this, you guys, I don't think this is sunk in for us. If all things go as planned, we could have a baby, like if this is the craziest scenario, in a week. What? A week? Yes, because we could be approved next week. True, yes. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Yeah, because when this episode goes out, so a week from now is when this episode is out. So when the episode is out, you could literally be getting a baby any time., wait, wait, wait. Yeah, because when this episode goes out, so a week from now is when this episode is out. So when the episode is out, you could literally be getting a baby any time. I mean, yeah, true. Holy crap. Technically, yes. If everything goes smoothly,

we're still like, we submitted our papers to the state. Which is the last step. It's the very last step. And it takes within 60 days to be approved. And then once you're approved, you could get a baby any day after that. You can match with the birth mother. Yeah. So a lot of people are probably wondering where we are in the process.

Like that's where we're waiting for approval from the state. It's the last step. We've done all of our home studies. They send a lady over to your house. She has to be with you for like five hours. She has to interview us. We've done all the fingerprints, all that stuff. And like we're just once the state says, you guys are good to go, the search begins. Yeah, the crazy thing is like, now that we've announced, I'm so curious, like looking back now, what the response is gonna be, like, I'm wondering if maybe we even find our birth mother

through social media. Oh my gosh. You know, like if there's someone out there who is going to put their baby up for adoption and is looking for a loving home, like. Oh my gosh, you seriously could. That could happen. And that is what's crazier.

That's actually a common thing. Like I have friends, they made a video, they're a couple, they made a video on Facebook, got shared like a hundred thousand times and that's how they found their baby. Because if you go through an agency which we are, then it is extremely expensive. Very expensive. But if you, and their goal is they're out searching and they're looking for birth moms and they're trying to make a match. I will pay anything at this point though.

How does that work? Like, do you have to pay, is it a lump sum payment all at once? Do you have a payment plan? Like how does that work? Like, that's the weirdest thing to me. It's wild. So I, I don't know if there's a payment plan because we haven't gotten to that point.

Okay. I'm sure there is because honestly, it's like, it's about 40 to $50,000 to a adoptive kid. And I don't think what people don't understand, it's not just for the baby, obviously. You're not paying that. The thing that makes me feel good about it is you're taking care of the birth mother.

I want her to be taken care of. She's gonna be the most important woman in my entire life. I, and so, I want her to be taken care of. We're gonna take care of, it takes care of her housing, her medical bills, and make sure that her recovery is good. The agencies make sure they do a good job of taking care of her housing, her medical bills, and make sure that her recovery is good. The agencies make sure they do a good job of taking care of her.

Which is very important. That's what I care about. I want her to be taking care of more than anything. But if you don't have an agency and let's say, I mean, you guys know of a cousin or a friend that is placing a baby for adoption, then we're approved from the state. We could take any kid.

That's cool. And you guys could connect us. And then we just, all you do is get a lawyer involved. They do the paperwork and that's it. So like you've just gotten approved with the state so far, or you're about to. We're about to. Any moment we can get approved by the state.

It's like any day now, really. But you haven't like fully worked with an adoption agency yet because that's what happens if you have to pay and do all that stuff. Because the adoption agency takes care of the mom and all that. Once you're approved by the state, then you submit your papers to a bunch of different agencies around the United States.

We're doing the domestic adoption. We're working with a couple agencies right now though. We've been in contact with a couple. Right. So. You guys would tell me something freaky about adoption. It was like, it's been about how there's certain countries where people go to adopts and there's like literal businesses around like stealing kids for people's homes and then they like and

they sell them right like in other countries like that. That's why we just freaky. We didn't want to go. I don't think that's the case for like all there's this. No, definitely not for all. Yeah, that's just like there's certain countries that we were like looking into where we saw that it was like common. And so we kind of got nervous going the international route just because we don't know a whole lot about it.

So we just decided to go domestic. And the other thing is too, if you go international, you can't get a newborn baby. Yeah. It's usually like a year or older. Yeah. Because the process takes a lot longer when you go international. And we're pretty set on having a newborn baby. Yeah.

Understandably, I mean, it's your first baby. Yeah, like first baby, we want, like it would be really awesome. There's situations where you can even be in the hospital when the birth mom gives birth. Yeah, depending on what she wants, it's all up to her. So.

Oh really, so the birth mom can decide if you're in the hospital. It will be in the hospital. I meant to say like if we're in the room or not. Oh. What they do is they give us a room next to her. Okay. And then she decides we're sometimes the birth mom. If she's comfortable with it, she lets you in there.

And sometimes they let you cut the cord and things like that. Yeah, cool. It just depends on what she's comfortable with. Like, I don't know. It's just wild to think it's, I don't know. That's like our next step. The whole thing is like, I'm still processing this entire thing. Like, it doesn't feel real.

I can picture it so much. Oh, wow. I can just picture it. I'm holding your baby and, oh, it's so beautiful. You guys are going to be the most incredible parents. Like I can just be too much holding your baby and oh it's so beautiful. You guys are going to be the most incredible parents. Like truly, I've seen you guys around kids so much. Like just there's a lot of babies and little kids and even just with Gryphon. And it just comes so naturally for the two of you. And you like have some of the biggest heart so it's like you're gonna just be.

I just can't wait to see her, be a mom. She deserves it so much. I like it. She deserves it. Everything she's gone through of like, well, hell, like the lowest of times, she's ready. Yeah, and I commend you guys for sharing like every step of that journey, like online, not that you had to do that,

but I think it's been, I mean, I personally know people that has been like such a source of hope and inspiration for and it's extremely vulnerable. And it comes with hate too, which is awful because it's like your weakest spot to like leave that available for people to just stab out as awful. That was one of the worst parts of infertility was there was so many people, I don't understand why people feel the need to comment horrible things on people's videos, but I got so many comments of people being like, well, this is just a sign that you're not supposed to have kids,

or well, it's not in your plan to have kids. Sometimes those would really bother me. Most of the time I would just like brush them off, but I just think of the people who are getting those comments who can't handle receiving those comments. It's just horrible. I just think unfortunately the bad is always louder than the good.

Oh, 100%. You know, like you get a thousand good comments, but then one bad one, and that's the one that stands out. You're right. And you're like, dang it. You can't forget, there are so many people that are so inspired by the content and are going through the same thing that we'd always have to remind each other,

we can't let this one bad comment ruin, like the good that you're doing by putting it out there. We talked about this too on like actually a recent episode, but like the silent followers that like never comment, never message, never like so many. That are just like consuming your content all the time and feel so uplifted by it, but then they just never, that was like me, I don't sometimes think to comment

or anything like that. I don't either. I mean, I rarely comment on posts ever and so on. Especially something as sensitive as infertility, like to publicly comment and say, like, I'm going through that too. Yeah. That's hard.

So it's like, I have to know that there's so many people that are just radio silent, but like. And the more real you are, the more the hate comes. Yeah. It's just the reality. Like when we were doing those pranks, there would be times where I would like react. I'm going to be like, nope. Like, we were doing those pranks, there would be times where I would like react and be like, no, like, we do run it back, like up it a little bit better reaction. And so it's like when you're

being fake, you're going to come off as the perfect person. Most genuine, amazing person. And like, because everything isn't real. It's not how you are. But like when we have you have a hard day or something and you actually like share and talk about it, and you're like open and real with your feelings, then that's just like ammo for these people to like prey on with hate. It's funny, like we really didn't start receiving hate until we switched our content to real content. You're joking.

No, we're not. Looking back at it, we, I don't ever remember getting any hate comments when we were doing our pranks. When you were faking videos. We were faking our videos. And every video was getting like 500,000 to a million views. What the faking video? That we were faking.

So. That's crazy. That's fine boggling, actually. I think one of the reasons I think though is because I think it's just like random people who are just watching the trends. They're not watching for us. Like maybe sometimes you, well, I guess we gain like such a genuine following that like people that love us, but like, I don't know. gain such a genuine following that people that love us,

but I don't know, there's a bad community surrounding sometimes around infertility, people saying horrible things. There's a lot of hurt. They always say hurt people, hurt people. If they're struggling with that on their own, they're currently miserable, so then they want to know. The other thing too that I think about receiving hate is I have to look at who it's coming from.

If it's TikTok from. Yeah. If it's like TikTok user 4661. No profile picture. No profile picture and like Don Zugly. I'm like, I can't let that get to me. Yeah. But when it's like, you know, like when it's like people that were like close to you

at one point in your life, like I have a 12 minute video on my computer of somebody that was like once was close to us that like slanted our name and was like terrible. And it's like those type of hate and like videos. That's bullying. Yeah, like those are the ones that are like once was close to us that like slanted our name and was like terrible. And it's like those type of hate and like videos. At some point. Yeah, like those are the ones that are like ding. Like that gets to you.

That makes you sad because it's coming from someone that was once in your circle. We have a good circle around us right now. Life's good. We're just in a good place. And I think once you find that good circle you can't let it go. Friendship is so important. Yes. And if you're want you to find like that good circle. You can't let it go. Like, friendship is so important. And if you're like, you become who you're surrounded by.

And it's just like so important to have like you guys in our life. And like so many other friends. And we just we're at a good spot. We're at a good spot. Like we're about to adopt a baby. And gosh, that's so cool. Like we're both just trying to be ready to be parents. Like we're trying to do everything to just be like, the best person we can be. The best person people we can be and prepare to bring a baby home. And so I feel like that was the most important thing

with that is like who you're surrounding yourself with. Who do you want your kids to be around? Because that makes a huge difference. And so I'm excited. You guys are gonna be anti-Avi and Uncle Matt. Oh yeah. Oh my god. I'm not.

Uncle Matt, that's so good. That was so good. That's so good. You're a kid. We might have a kid before you get hurt. That can be talked about. No, you guys are going to have a kid before us. I hope you do.

Honestly, that'd be epic. Freak me out. Oh my gosh. I can't even fowl them having a baby. No, I feel it. Why do I feel like it, too? I feel like it's going to be a girl. You do, I do. Really? Bella does, too. I want's gonna be a girl. You do, I do.

Bella does too. I want it to be a girl. I've already bought. When you fill out your adoption papers, they ask you like, no joke, thousands of questions of anything like race, gender, age, all of that. Yeah. And like we said like with gender, like we're open.

Like we're pretty open. Yeah. We just have it though. We want to open. You're just like we just want to open a healthy baby. Like we're open and it's like, ultimately it's up to us. We're going to be presented a lot of different situations to options and we decide.

That's crazy because yeah, you guys told us that you said any race, any gender. So like, it's crazy, your baby could look like you. It could look just like you or it could look nothing like you. Like you have no idea. And that's pretty cool. That's exciting. Yeah.

It does make it really exciting. We're really excited to just like, I'm excited to know who this baby that I like weirdly feel connected. Like I tell, I tell down this all the time, like I feel like I miss our baby and I don't even know them yet. It's like a weird feeling,

but I'm so ready to meet them and, mm-hmm. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Like, this is gonna be me. Something else that a lot of people, sorry. No go. But a lot of people don't talk about this with adoption.

But I'm actually really excited to meet the birth mother as well. Me too. That's a really special person that's going to be in our life. Because of her, we're able to become parents. The most important person I think in our life. I think a lot of people skip over that. Sure, the baby, it's going to become ours. And that's obviously more important important I guess you could say but like that birth

mother is an a very important person to us and someone that like we're gonna forever cherish and be like super grateful for because she's the reason we be here. She will be the reason that we will be able to be parents so that's really beautiful. It's such a special thing and so amazing. We have a lot of respect for her. We don't we've never met her but we don't know who it is yet out there like but we love her That's really respectful. Yeah, that is really hard to do. Yeah, neither can I do you guys think you'll have a relationship with the birth mother like Like continuing on after this like what do you think that'll look like we've talked a lot about that It's hard because every situation's different

You know definitely like know each other. Yeah, I don't know if they're gonna live across the country. I don't think they're gonna live across the street from us. I wanna talk to her and see how she feels. I think we need to both just come to a mutual agreement. And we're pretty open to do, we want it to be an open adoption. So we just don't know what that looks like, like what amount of openness it is.

So a lot of birth moms want to kind of move on like it's forward Or yeah move forward. I guess is the bad way to put it because it's hard for them like they're gonna go through like a grieving period Mm-hmm, and so it's hard for them as well and sometimes it's better for them to not have like a Close relationship. They just want updates once a year or so. I don't know every situation is a little different I think at the end of the day. It's we're gonna we just whatever Whatever the birth mother wants like we want to have a better Expatful towards her we yeah, we want to make her happy for sure. We want her to be happy and Yeah, we're excited speaking of respect to the birth mom

I've heard that when the baby's born you have to wait is it 72 hours? Yeah, I'm so every states different Oh every states different, but in the city of Arizona majority of our 72 hours Okay, so in the city of Arizona it's 72 hours that them are 72 hours. Okay, so in the city of Arizona, it's 72 hours that you have to wait until you officially send a paper, right? I'm terrified of that 72 hours. Oh, yeah, thinking about that is pretty wild. What, so yeah, I mean, like what happens is the birth mother,

is my- I mean, you probably can't de-match my- Yeah, Oh gosh. It's hard. Like the way I look at it right now, the more I think about it, because the scary reality is that we could be presented in an opportunity

and have a baby for three days and then have to give the baby back. And that will probably be... that would be the most heartbreaking thing of our life. But obviously we want whatever's best for the baby But the way I've learned to look at it and the way I am going to look at it is like if I can even like make an impact and love on a baby for three Days then I at least get to like Be there for that baby for three days and like give them all the love that I can and if I have to give them back

I'm just gonna be praying for that baby, and that baby will still have an impact in my life forever. So that could happen. But I feel like we've been through so much already that we're willing to put our hearts out there and hope for the past. It's gonna be hard, and this whole journey already has been hard, so I'm just praying that now this is the light at the end of the best. It's going to be hard. And this whole journey already has been hard. So I'm just praying that now this is like the light at the end of the tunnel.

And I'm hoping so bad that we just have like our perfect happy ending. And I'm hoping it soon. I like, if it happened tomorrow, I would be so excited. I'm so ready. Yeah. That's crazy. There's so many people rooting for you and praying for you guys. And we can't wait to hold the baby I don't know if I'm ever gonna let that baby go. No, I'm like, can I hold them? I'm like no, I'll just be cooking dinner I don't even know if I'll be able to hold that baby Like my face app I'd turn with you. Can I say something me and Dalin have already started fighting over who's gonna take care of the baby more. Dalin is like, I wanna get up in the middle of the night,

I'm changing every time, I'm feeding every bottle. I'm like, what do I do? Work out my dopting is Bella's not gonna be breastfeeding. So I get to get them bottle or her. I get to give the baby bottles and Bella won't be needed at night, so I get to take that role. I'm actually doing everything. I'm doing everything. I'm doing everything. I'm doing everything.

I'm actually really cool. You guys have to figure that out because for us, naturally, Abby breast feeds. So for me, I wake up in the night with Griffin. I get up with Griffin in the morning. I change the diapers. It's funny because our roles are more like, okay, Abby's feeding him. So I just naturally need to be the one to get up in the diapers. You know, like it's funny because like our rolls are like, it's more like, okay, well Abby's feeding him. So like I just naturally need to be the one to get up in the night. And we recently started sleeping in separate beds, which was weird.

Abby hates sleeping in separate beds, but it's helped because. We like it. Well, I like sleeping in separate beds. He's like, I love it. I get my spray. Actually, I'm misleaping with you. Like I want to sleep in the same bed,

but it's better for your mental health and your sleep, like you're getting way better sleep now because I can wake up work I work the best it works for now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. You guys get to figure that out yourselves and have the best Situation, however you deem fit. So yeah Everyone go to down embelluz YouTube and Instagram take talk everything and check it out to follow their infertility journey to adoption Yeah, there's so many pages like, we skipped over a lot of things. Like there's so many chapters you need to catch up on

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