The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Brooklyn & Bailey on Signing Prenups, Getting a Restraining Order & Keeping Their Last Name

Episode Date: December 27, 2023

Brooklyn & Bailey joined us together with their husbands Dakota & Asa in this week's episode of The Unplanned Podcast. We discussed the prenups they signed before marriage, Brooklyn & Bailey's decisions to keep their last names, and experiences with stalkers. BUY OUR MERCH!! unplannedpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is very controversial, I feel like, but we actually, I had him sign a... It was sign print-ups, pre-know? The sign controversial sign print-ups, we bought them! We bought them! We bought them! Protect your assets! We've had two really bad stalker stories. I had to get police involved.

And for some reason, like I'm still sitting here like nervous to talk about it, I'm still like, oh, whatever this has like repercussions, but you know what? This is the reality. This is what happens to us. You guys didn't take your husband's last name, right? I didn't make him give up his last name. He didn't make me give up my last name. My degree is in my last name.

Everything is in my last name. There really isn't any reason for me to change it. Oh! What's up, dude? What's up, dude? What's up, dude? And welcome back to the OhmFland podcast. Oh!

That wasn't really fun. It was lively one yet. This is our first podcast with six people. Can we just give it up for that? The couch is full. We are joined by Brooklyn and Bailey and Dakota and Asa. Thank you guys for being here. You guys made a long journey today, so we really appreciate that.

Yes, thank you. We're excited. First podcast really nervous. Dakota is not much of a talker. So I'm so excited by this concept of a podcast. Or so glad to have you. We literally just have a conversation. Just kind of, do we have the new-ing off-camera,

but not on camera? Perfect. So, for you guys who don't know Brooklyn and Bailey, they are YouTubers, TikTokers. They're on every social media platform. Entrepreneurs, you guys own like 17 different businesses. It's super impressive what you guys have been able to do over the years.

So you guys just celebrated 10 years on YouTube, right? Oh, let's see. Yes, we did do just 10 years. And I think all together, our family, it's been 14 or 15 years. Yeah, it's been 14 or 15 years. So long we can't remember how long it's been. Oh my gosh. I think that's the most. The last nine. Yeah, 2009.

So you guys have to be some of the first like kids that like started on YouTube that are like now adults. I would say so yeah we call it like the second generation social media people like we are probably one of the first I would say. Yeah we were the first I remember when obviously we started on my mom's hair channel and then Brooklyn and I started our own channel and we were 13 and we were the first second generation family to have two channels between the generations that all hit a million views or a million subscribers or something like that like some some milestones, some very specific milestones

and like that, but. It's awesome. Yeah, we were there a lot of them now though, so I'm like, it's kind of pretty. Yeah, it's kind of very, well, like that's such a big conversation nowadays, like kids and social media, like you guys can actually speak on it, like, what was that like?

How do you view that? It wasn't the same when we were, I was like, we were nine was when my mom when we were little. I feel like, because when we were nine, it was when my mom started filming videos. And it was literally like, she was using a camp light, like when you take camp light. They had to turn, like a lantern on the series. They had to turn.

Literally one of those handheld flip cameras that like don't even exist anymore. Wait, the flip camera? The light camera. Yeah, to film. That's crazy. I had one singular button, the record button. Yes, I used to have one of those.

I would make little action movies as a kid with a flip camera. Yes, and so we would literally, I mean, when we started, like we said, it was nothing like what it is now. At the time, it was not to be on social media or to get famous or anything like that. It was a hobby. My mom was a hair blogger and people just wanted like a more in-depth tutorial. And so she never showed our faces, never said our names.

We were literally just hair models. Like, you can't. You're just back in your head. Back of our head. Yeah, they both announced our names. We were CGH1, CGH2, CGH3 all the way down. All until we were 13. So I don't know how many you're five years

13 I can't honestly remember but at some point we ended up revealing our names We were 13 so our first video was us revealing our name. Yeah. Whoa That's so was that for like privacy reasons to call you GDH1 and to yeah You're the answer. You're the answer. You're the answer. She did. She did. I'll do it. Two. No, it was for safety.

My parents weren't sure what it was going to look like and what that was going to be. And so they wanted to make sure we were safe. And so they didn't say her names or show our faces for a really really long time until years later and then people were really interested in the family dynamic and stuff like that and that's where it kind of morphed into more of family related videos but for a really long time it was like under lock and key or yeah never never knew who we really were they didn't even know we were twins because you can only sit back of our head and we look so. They didn't even know we were twins, because you could only sit back of our head

and we looked so similar that people had no idea we were twins for the longest time until, like there were two of us in a video one time and everyone freaked out. I was like, wait a second. We thought they were the same person. That's the other way. That still happens.

The first twins, yeah. So you're 13, like you start this YouTube channel, people know who you are now., they know that you're twins. I feel like there's a weird thing with twins too, because I feel like people just get super interested in twins. Totally. And fascinated by them, I don't know, I get that vibe.

How was that growing up with that channel? When did it really take off? When were people recognizing you guys and stopping you? Oh man, I don't know if I can, it's been so long. I don't know if I can even remember, but I do remember the night we launched our channel, my mom's hair channel had a million or two subscribers. So the night we launched our channel,

like we were refreshing the subscribers and we were like 200, 300,000 subscribers. And a day. So it was, it was a launch from an already successful channel. I don't think it was 300,000. It was, I remember, but it didn't go. It grew over the years. But yeah, it was a success, successful launch

when we started it because it started from my parents' channel, obviously. No, that's insane. Yeah, that's a lot of people. Yeah, it was a lot. But we didn't, I don't think we just, I don't think we really, we weren't doing it it for the subscribers we were just doing it because we like to share what you wanted filming our life really like book reviews and the fashion and just being

13 year olds you know. I mean our first video one of our first videos is like filming ourselves goofing off with our friends making us so like we were not taking the seriously videos you were talking about that you made on the flip camera, that talk went live. That's what we used to post. That was what let let let it end. And it was going out to a long time.

Yeah, I mean, it did not get that, I don't think. Thank you, Riffy. Do you look back now and think of like, oh, we were just kids, or are you actually embarrassed? Like, you're like, that- It depends on the video. Yeah, it depends on the day. I've watched some of them and I'm like, was like oh that was that deserved to stay in the archives

is it a singing or something we look back yeah it's like a rap battle with our friends we're like made up something and it was like our second video on the channel it got posted and I regret that one there was some of them were just innocent kids stuff but that one I'm like this is actually embarrassing And we just shouldn't have posted it

Sometimes I watch it back and I'm like very nostalgic about it because it feels so like oh like it was so No pressure back then just put up whatever and it was so fun and so it's really nostalgic too So there's very few that get us really embarrassed There's a couple that are like what? Your channel really is like a time capsule of every moment throughout your life. So even that very first video is you, just being a 13 year old.

Yeah, exactly. So you weren't trying to do anything. Yeah. And when did you do your first like, swap, like twin swap video? Oh. Those are so funny, by the way. Was that the first one?

Well, then you did restaurants. I tried to think all the way back. No, I think the very first- there's a drive-peries and stuff. Like our very first-win swap was in college. Yeah, and that was one with me. That was one with Aisa. And Aisa and Bailey were dating at the time.

And we had a lot of friends in college and we'd kind of come up with this concept and it did so well. Like first of all, half the people did not tell us apart. And Aisa did not tell us apart. So that's kind of blew the video up because Aisa mistook credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that.

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I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. I'm gonna take credit for that. Do people think that scripted then? Because like that no, or they know. If you watch the video, you can see my face just just looks like a brain from a face when you realize this. And even talking like this like confident talk. We also never scripted anything. Like our audience knows everything we put up is like what actually happens. And so I don't think anyone would ever see that. And Ace is face game in a way.

I did not expect it. I did not worry of blood. I'm gonna say he's gave it away. So this is a question for the guys. Ever see that and a says face I did not expect it So this is a question for the guys is it not weird like to be married to someone that is a twin Cuz like I don't know I'm like I think Abby's so attractive, but if she had a twin That would I feel like that would throw me off so hard Yeah, but there's also differences. Yeah The video of you Where you got me

Okay, okay Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I can... So how big are those differences really though? Well, when you don't know what to look for, you got me there. I'll get for context. Dakota, we played a switching video. We swapped on Dakota when Dakota and I were really married yet. Yeah, we were married. I just watched it today. I saw the one and you guys breaking on the family trip.

Yeah, yeah. And Dakota mixed us up and mixed us up so bad, he grabbed Bailey's booty. I just watched it today. I saw the one you guys breaking on the on the family trip. Yeah, and Dakota Mixed us up and mix us up so bad. He grabbed Bailey's booty Not my video like my face is great When he found out I don't know how you like That's my wife like getting mad who's like I mean it I literally was just dying like I'm supposed to stay in character and act like I'm his wife But I'm not gonna let him touch my butt. So I was like

And then it was just a dead giveaway and it was hilarious Is that how you found out to end it? You're like yeah I feel actually I feel like Grab your butt and she kind of shifted away and he kind of looked at her like And then like did a double taken was like So even on the butt grab you didn't realize it right away I That's Is it right away? No, it's Abby. No, no. Look at me have the same butt. What the hell are you talking about?

That's my fault. No, no. Like they probably feel the same. I'm feeling the same. They probably do. That's probably true. So growing up is a twin. Like you grow up sharing room, sharing clothes.

Yeah. The things that you see each other, I mean, they get naked all the time. And you have the same body. It's true. You do have the same body. It's crazy. Nikki Gav the same body. Nicking and gavi, actually, another pair of twins talked about this. Are they identical for turn-on? They for turn-on?

I don't know. But they're another influencer pair of twins and they talked about this. People always ask, do we look the same naked? Because your twins? The answer is, is they're wondering. Yes. Yes, at least twins are the same high as we are. Identical twins.

Our bodies look the same But it's like our personalities that I think is what our husbands are attracted to Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what makes a difference. It's not like Aces gonna be like a Traction Yeah, like and there are subtle differences in your features and stuff too, but it does come down to your personality Yeah, that's I just yeah Abby was all her personality completely Why I fell in love with her? Sometimes I try to be funny and it just like does not work and that was one of those times

No, okay, I love your personality. I think you had my mom in there, Matt. No, I, okay, I obviously love your personality. I think you're hot. So like that was part of it. You're so focused. Okay. That's what I said. You got both, but double with me. Good for me.

That's hilarious. No, I, so it's so funny because I literally wrote down in my questions to ask you guys, have you ever accidentally like slapped the other person on the butt before and then I watched that video and I was dying when I realized it. Other than that, there have been no misunderstanding. I will be careful. You've never gotten slapped on the butt by A.C. No, no, no.

And it's like, yeah. And it's like, yeah, I can't say yes. I can't say yes. We never even mixed them up outside of the video. Those twins swap. Yeah, I know. I just thought as hilarious how your siblings all knew immediately. Well, I mean, they, they're just so banana. Even my story that was there, knew all, like Well, I mean they they're you started that was their new all like

Immediately, yeah, they're all used to us and they know when we're lying and like all the things I mean there were a dead giveaway. I would say that some people are more observant So they like They put us camera shy how you fell for it, but I did They were really can't both of them are's camera shy. I don't know how you fell for it, but I did too. In their defense, they were really, both of them were really camera shy when we filmed it. And so I think they were so hyper focused on, yeah, so hyper focused on like getting the questions right

that I don't even think they were really looking at the person standing there. I have a question, that's why I was so nervous. But yeah, no, I can relate to that whole story because last year Abby's dad slapped Abby's sister I think we already told everybody that it's so funny Yeah, they're wearing the same jammies so he just got confused Yeah, that's what happened to his my aunt and uncle so my uncle put his hand down his mother-in-law's pants. Did you just move?

Not down. Your mother-in-law? No, it's so selfish. No, they are. They're like, it's similar. Like, physique, but yeah, you can. It's ever-talk, ever-game. No, yeah, I mean.

They just all left it off. It's like, try to move on with their lives. I think we're talking about this off-podcast. If you hadn't chewed, it was like, who would be the worst person to see you make it in your family? Because Abby was like, it would definitely be her father-in-law, my dad. Uh-uh.

And I don't know. I don't, yeah. I feel it's tough. Who would be the worst? For sure, you're dad. Yeah. That would be, or your mom's partner. That would be, well, either one of them would have had.

I actually think my father-in-law would be or your mom's partner. That would be, well, either one of them would have actually think my father-in-law would be like a lot more chill about it than I think some of my brother-in-laws would be. I think I would rather my fucking mom even get angry. This is gross. Sorry, this is gross. You probably get a lot of weird questions though, being twins. Like people are probably just like so fast. What's the worst? The DMs are wild. Yeah, they're always crazy like what just the craziest questions like about us and if we're alike in certain ways

If we secretly hate each other is there a mean twin a nice twin There's ugly twin and a pretty twin just like people say the wildest things when you're you have someone to directly Comparative it's it's crazy. You guys just launched recently a drink place it's called Sip City. Yes so we launched a drink drive through company in Texas where we live and it's been such a wild ride because it's so different than all of our other companies so that's been fun for us and it when did it launch like not even three months ago. So we're still in the very new business phase.

We're excited. It took what, two years. Yeah, it took a long time to develop. Yeah. It was kind of from the ground up. And property is just so hard to find. So that was our biggest, you know, stickler was we couldn't find any drive-through spaces

available. So anyway, it's just a couldn't find any drive-through spaces available. So anyway, it's just a very different world than like a social media business or, you know, like a digital product business or anything like that. Like it's very, very different than anything we've done before. But we love it. It's fun. I want to go because I love special drinks. It just makes my day every single day. Yeah, you noticed your serups back there.

I wanted to have you guys try one of them. Sometimes I'll put some raspberries syrup and some coffee creamer in my diet coke. Hey, and I feel like that's what you guys do. That's what we're doing. I think you guys are like working there. It's fun. I want more seriinks.

We go there on a Sunday night. It's just so fun. I will come work for you. I just think that would be so fun. Yeah. I was listening to you guys newly wed like Q&A that you did on your YouTube channel. And I thought it was so funny that like you do all the cooking and then you and I'm people listening.

I'm talking about Dakota. He's like you go to the grocery store every single day to get food. I do. I love fresh food. Have you heard of Instacart? People make fun of me, like order it. Yeah, I don't know. I just like to pick out my food.

Dakota's very picky about like his cuts of me and like vegetables and stuff. So he doesn't particularly love like delivery services or Instacart because they'll just pick a piece of me. So he doesn't, he likes to be able to see it and then pick it. So I love that. We can't actually order like 50 bananas from Instacart the other day. I don't know if was that our full Abbey or was that still a free? I'm still not totally sure.

Really? Abby's dad kept going, hey, the Jojo call. Go, go, go, go, go. What's your banana? I can't say. I just filled the water off my pants. The jungle called they what their bananas back. You guys said Griff is like Spananas so that's lucky. I'm sorry. It's not even funny. Oh gosh. I'm sorry. It's not even funny why are you so mad. I think the laughs like that are not insane.

Well it's so random. Like 50 bananas? I'm sure the Instacark guy was like what? They do. You know what I mean? This is like a joke. I'm 10 times in meat. Like is a meme. I think I think it's way more than that.

I think that's what I'm saying. That's like a 50 bananas. I think maybe it's what it was supposed to be. Well yeah, I think Abby like selected like eight or something and then they thought it was like eight That's like a big like I said it's a mean people like post what they ordered Then what I got on their Instacart order. I was like my bananas. Yeah, really funny I can understand that the like eight bunches and then you end up with eight with like five bananas

They're like this family. Yeah, if it ain't bananas the past three days So then else you guys mentioned too is, do you actually like, I thought it was so funny because you're an esthetician, you went to school for that. So you guys, do you guys like wax each other's armpits and stuff, like you must be really good at that. I wax myself and I wax him. And really that's it.

You wax my chest. I've always waxed his chest. I don't know. Oh, right now. Yeah, I have a waxed's it. You've watched my chest. I've watched Jesus' chest. Not right now. Yeah, I haven't watched it in a minute. But Bailey have never watched. Nope. Really? She's never watched it.

I don't know. I don't know. Not even the petter. Usually pretty shaved. Yeah, I just kind of like, I don't know. Yeah, you have to let it grow just a little bit. And that detairs some people from watching. I like it though.

I watch Sam all the time. Do you have just like a smooth chest at all times? Actually, that's not what we watch. that detairs some people from waxing. I like it though. I waxed him all the time. Oh, time. Do you have just like a smooth chest at all times? Actually, that's not what we waxed. He waxed. He waxed him. He waxed him. Yeah, something else.

What are you waxing? He waxed him. He waxed him. Hello. Hello. That's a special request to him. He just got like real stuff. I would talk just the cheeks.

Like you're going to talk about it. Just the cheeks. Just the cheeks. Just the cheeks. Okay. I'll give you some reassurance Lie there liar I've never waxed anything but it's you shaved down there gets itchy bro. Yeah, I think it's real itchy It's just a cheeks, but it's nice I

That hurts so bad that one time for a YouTube video I That hurts so bad that one time for a YouTube video. I can get your cheeks out. I'd be crying bro. Abby waxed my belly, my happy trail for it into the end. I didn't do it. I was bleeding bro. Yeah. There's like a technique to make sure it hurts as little as possible.

And the less bony the area is the less it'll hurt. So your butt, the cheeks got a lot of Juicy juice on there, so you can rip it off And it's not gonna hurt nearly as much as like a shin or something like that eyebrows hurt worse than the heart. Yeah Yeah, I could do like the middle between the eyebrows like sometimes you just get to kind of see that you know That's nice You know, that's nice You're not looking at that right now Bro, you're almost like Ray

No, no, no, no It's so nice You're gonna out home by a statistician to wax and whatever you need That's so nice You guys amazing, like you're so multi-talented Like a statistician owning businesses Doing like your social media I feel like I feel the same way about you all like we just watched you guys

I mean y'all are having your parents Kill it all the time And the podcast and video, so for media and travel and all the things. Thank you. You guys stay so busy too. Like always on the go. It, I actually think that all the time,

I see your stories and I'm like, do you guys get home, turn around, go again. You guys are about to do that all over again. It's pretty crazy and pretty fun. Like I feel like your lives are moving so fast paste right now. They are, it's a lot, but it's fun. A lot of fun. I feel like your lives are moving so fast paste right now. They are. It's a lot, but it's fun. A lot of fun. Kids both a lot and a lot of fun. But yeah, it does get quite crazy around here. Yeah, I feel like lately, particularly like the last year since we've been married

for some reason, just like business trips and like vacations and stuff have just kind of picked up. So we've traveled a lot in the last year. I'm starting to even feel it where I'm like oh my gosh like we bought a house and we've In the month of October we were only home for six days Maybe less than six. Yeah, well the crazy thing is like what Jalsey is the go-go-go all the time But then we'll hit like six days straight of just hibernation. Yeah, do not leave the bed. Yeah, literally. Literally. It goes just like super, super highs, like high waves of energy and then we crash.

It's, I think it's, we also get it from my mom. She's like a mover. Yeah. She's like a doer. She does things all the time. And I do think like at least for Dakota and I we're trying to capitalize on the time where we like don't have a family yet.

We don't have kids yet. So we know that like the capabilities being able to pick up and just go, go, go like that is harder. And I'm sure you guys can talk more about that with kids. I'm sure it's harder to just pick up and go. Yes, no, it definitely is. It definitely is. It was funny, we just did a trip with just our newborn

for like four days, for the podcast actually, and we were shocked at how much easier it was, like because we're always have our two kids. We're like, oh my gosh, like, we only have one. Like we can do anything. Yeah, you get used to it to a certain level to like only having one of them. It feels like a vacation.

Like you're like, oh, yeah, just one baby. What the heck? That's what I used to do. Yeah. I watched this, like what we were at the airport the other day and we had this mom in front of us who was traveling by herself with like her baby. And I was like, oh, we were at the airport the other day and we had this mom in front of us who was traveling by herself with like her baby.

And I was like, oh, I just kudos because she like had the stroller and the baby in one arm and was like trying to fold the stroller up and like, and then put it, I guess you have to like put your milk in the certain way through security and stuff, you know. So things, I just never have thought about that. I was like, dang, champ. So definitely we're trying to capitalize on the time where it's a little bit easier to travel.

For sure. And you guys have been married for just over a year, right? Bailey and Ace have been married for two, two, okay. Going into year three. Yep. So our our anniversaries are one day apart. Yeah. But a whole year.

Yeah. Did you guys plan that on purpose? Kind of. Kind of. It wasn't, I mean, obviously venues, you're sort of working around their schedule. And so we picked October because it was the best weather. And then when they poked around at their venue, they had that weekend.

It was like one of the few weekends open. So October 1st, September 30th, those two days. And I wanted October 1st just for us. So I was like, you get married on September 30th and then we can always travel together for our anniversaries but we don't share the same day so That's kind of how we did it. So do you guys do everything together for the most part? So since you guys were together first was it like okay? You have to get along with whoever Brooklyn picks to be her husband because otherwise.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there were some mexes that we did not get. Oh, no! Anyway, put through the ringer. I'll do that. And there was some fear there. So, we're just so glad to come to see you. Hey, come on up.

For those relationships public, it was at all like private stuff. There are public. I have. There are public. I have. I have to hold out for public and a handful that were private. How long did you guys wait to like go public with your relationship? A bit.

Yeah, we waited a while. I have been trying to remember how long it was. Uh, come on, months, because you got married and I don't think we had posted about to go to. No, we hadn't married. We had to go to the first meeting. And we'd been dating for, I think they was around six months when they public. I was nervous.

It's the relationship before that. I think I went public a little too soon and it ended more poorly than I really would have liked it too. And so with it being so public, so I was a little bit more nervous. I think starting my relationship with Dakota. So I learned my lesson and we waited for six months. And then we went public with our relationship.

So then where people, like, were they thrown off by your time at all, were they like, wow, you guys are like, getting married quickly. Oh no, totally. We got totally. So much of that. I could be still get called told that we're lying.

No. They're like hiding like parts of our relationship because the timeline socially wise doesn't, it feels so fast and like weird because we kept a lot of it private in the beginning. Yeah. So we get a lot of people private in the beginning. So we get we get a lot of people like like just even small things like they met on a dating show really that we did on our channel and in the video our editor he

kept the age as the last guy for Dakota so we watched it no one noticed that it was like several years younger than it should have been and so everyone's always like oh Dakota yeah older than you originally said. Like you were hiding his age. It's just like, yeah, the big deal. The big deal. The big deal. The big deal.

It's not interesting. Yeah. Well, maybe it was just a complete accident. It was a complete accident. I know it was totally not a big deal. The guy who got on a date with before was I think 23. And so then the editor just had like that on there and never changed it.

No one really caught on. Dakota I think when we went on our date was what 27 so people are like because you lied because you didn't like the age gap or Whatever and I was like, oh no guys, it's just like an editing mistake. It's not more not I honestly have to give people credit. They think we're way smarter than we are I'm just not even like enough to think about being the master plan. Like how does master plan? Oh my gosh, so how old are you Dakota? I'm 29.

29, let's go. Oh, wait, where's the big reel? Wait, bro, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no. Dakota, so my mom's goal by the time she turned 50 was to have hiked to the base camp of Everest. And we all weren't really sure how that was gonna happen. And then we kind of figured it out. I have an uncle who's really athletic and he's kind of helped her figure that out this plan and this company.

So we're all going now. Well, most of us, not me. We're going to hike to the base camp of Everest for I think it's about three weeks. It's a 17 day hike in order to get there. You have to fly on this tiny plane and land in what is called the world's most dangerous airport. And then three days into the hike, you can't shower or bathe because you'll get too cold,

you'll get hypothermia. And then the else, something that the altitude makes you start your period, you can only eat the stuff that's in your backpack, it's like a whole thing. I feel like this, I don't know if this is all true or not. These are all stated. These are all stated. Are you saying tense?

No, I think they're really sticky. I don't know. I'm saying like you say in like little hostels kind of along the way, but honestly, I really am not a hundred percent sure. I'm sure we'll figure out more details the closer it gets, but listen, I am all for adventures.

I'm all for the people that choose to do this. Great for you. I will be at home in my bed. In my bed. I don't love that man together on this. That sounds fun. Yeah, I know going into it, I'm gonna get on the mountain and be like,

what was I thinking? Dude, how far is it? The neither one of us are particularly, like, I can't remember the last time either, one of us went on a hike. You have to train. So, like, that's a different goal for it. See how far we can go.

What are, like, elevation where we're at right now, to be able to do for sure? Yeah, who are training before you go? Yeah, we're, I would say we're training mostly just our lungs and our hearts to like be able to keep up with altitude Have you guys heard of the ice man? Who's like done it? He'd whim off. He did it like barefoot or something crazy It's crazy like it's all in the breathing techniques that he uses and he like tricked his brain into like letting him live and not and not die

See, I suppose anything is possible, but like I said I will be opting out So what if your siblings are going you guys have four other siblings? as possible, but like I said, I will be opting out of that. So yeah. So what if your siblings are going, do you guys have four other siblings? Yes. So our youngest two are old enough. And really it's just you and Camry. We have a sister that's like super outdoorsy, loves hiking. This is like right up her alley.

So she might be the one that actually really loves it. I don't know. Science, are you guys more likely to have twins yourself? Oh yeah, I can explain the science to you. Please do. It's super fascinating and we get this question a lot. So identical twin genes technically, that's not hereditary. You can't like pass that down.

They don't know. They don't know. There's been a lot of studies. We were part of studies when we were babies. Oh really? Maybe they figured it out. I'm not sure, but that I know of, it's technically not something that you can like

guarantee is passed down from kid to kid to kid. However, the fraternal twin gene, which is where the woman drops two eggs and both get fertilized, is hereditary. So we actually have that gene. My grandma, obviously, my dad, I don't know if you guys know this, my dad is a fraternal twin. That is crazy.

So my grandma had fraternal twins and then it skips the generation and then we got that gene too. So it's like super TMI, but when I, obviously, I can feel it and I can feel when I'm dropping two eggs on both sides. It's really fascinating. Yeah. Does it hurt? Doesn't, I mean, ovulation kind of crampy, but never felt ovulation in my life.

Really? Oh, I think it's like 50% of women can and some can. I couldn't. I couldn't know I was ovulating because it's... You're like a low. A low, I found a baby. Yeah, no. Wait, I did not know that.

It was fascinating. So we both got that gene, and I'm sure maybe some of my other sisters do as well. I'm not sure, but the identical twin part is just kind of a... The scary part is like because the identical twin is un... Twin. The identical gene is unpredictable and my mom had two sets of identical twins. So she had Bailey and I and then my 18 year old sister was also an identical twin. The baby just passed in utero.

So the identical twin gene obviously my mom had it. So Bailey and I have that. And then we also have the fraternal gene of dropping two eggs. You could get, so you can be multiplying rapidly. Yeah, you could have four naturally. No, thank you. Naturally.

Could you leave it? I would cry. That would be so. You can't four naturally? Yeah, because you could. You could have dropped two and then they slid. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Another fun fact about twins and kids because we have the same DNA because we're identical no matter who we married like Obviously she married to cut out. I married a said they're not related at all our kids will be half siblings They will not be cousins. They have siblings by Genetically because we are a

Dennery so technically I know like her kids are my kids like if we took a DNA test It would not be able to know who was the mom same with crimes, right? Yes, it would not be able to know who was the mom. Same with crimes, right? Yes, it's true. Oh my. It's true. It's stupid. Yeah, the only thing that you can get away with, you can't get away with is your fingerprints. That's the only thing that's different.

Our DNA like our saliva are in here. It's all the same. I honestly don't know why there aren't more notorious twin, I'm criminal. I don't know. I'm like, do we do have an episode on this? Somebody. There are no crimes. There are only like, why don't we see a crime about it? I don't know, but one of the twins are just always in hiding. Yeah, we really is. Yeah, don't get the crimes. Let me tell you a question I've never seen talk about.

I don't really are, but one of the twins are just always in hiding. Yeah, we just don't know, maybe. Oh. But anyway, yeah, we've never committed a crime. No. So do you want twins? I do.

I do. When she like tells me she can fill both sides, I'm like, he's like, let's go. Well, let's tell you what, like I was the same way before kids. I was like, twins would be so cool. And then like now that I'm a parent, I'm like, let's go. I don't know. Well, let's tell you what, I was the same way before kids. I was like, twins would be so cool. And then now that I'm a parent, I'm like, I don't know how to do it. Twins parents do it.

So much respect. Because it's so much work for one. So just doubling that, that would be crazy. Yeah, my parents talk about it a lot. Their first kid was two kids. And they say all the time, it's hard. I feel like the part, especially the infant stage where you're like breastfeeding still,

like that, I feel like would be so important. Yeah, my mom has a picture of us just on both of her boobs just to say to it. I mean, you gotta know you gotta do, you know? But it's, I feel like once you hit taller sage though, twins, like we entertain each other, would you I feel like helps? How's it benefits? Yeah, it has it's benefits benefits like it's almost like having the second sibling already.

It's just I feel like it's particularly hard when you're just born and you rely on the mom and dad and like you can't you know that I feel like would be difficult. I don't know if I want to because I feel like it would be really hard. Yeah, I think having twins would be fun, but birthing twins would not be fun. I think that's what scares me more. Because my mom, I mean, she almost died. She was a small woman. Like, to birth twins, she did have a second heart.

She did have a second heart. She ended up having to have two sexes. But almost, there were complications. It was crazy. But for all, so then did she have two c-sections for all her conception? Not sure, yeah. But to think, I mean, I cannot imagine, birthing, two babies.

That's what scares me. I love to have twins, but you have to actually birth them. Well, carry them too. Or you could adopt that could be a solution to that problem. And as I said, you were part of studies as twins. Like they studied you? Yeah, I probably were really little just to... I don't remember we were babies.

I don't know. Part of this study, yeah, they were trying to chase, trace where the identical gene comes from, whether it comes from the mom or the dad or a combination of mix of the DNA or what causes the egg to split. And part of that study was they tested bailing and I'd see if we were identical. So that's how we know where identical.

We're for sure identical. Because the study says so. And we had a we know we're sure identical because like the study. Yep says so Yeah, I like a nice wall. Yeah, I'll take a look at us though Like I mean, I'm assuming yeah Like look at us and think but you know and growing up on social media Do you guys have a plan for when you have kids if you're gonna show them if you're gonna show the back of their head until they're 13 like your mom did like Have you even thought about that? I have like literal nightmares about this

because like, what, I don't know what the right answer is. I mean, it's a hot topic that's come up. I mean, really been a hyper focused last couple of years, like family vloggers and like how your kids are in your videos and we grew up just in a completely different time time than it is now. So I just I think about this all the time and what I think it would look like especially because our audience they feel like sisters to me like I'm sure Brooklyn agrees they feel like family and so it feels weird to hide

something like our kids but at the same time I care about the safety of my future children as well. So it's just like what is the right answer, you know, probably not show them very much. That's where we kind of lean. But I guess I can't say until I'm a parent, so yeah, not sure. I don't know. Yeah, wait, no, no, no, yeah. Yeah, it was worth it.

You got time, maybe, maybe not, yeah. It's hard when your social media revolves around you It's like a person and a personality to it. He's like by default then having family and kids like that's part of your life And so it's not like if you know if you're a gaming Social media influencer you can kind of cut the family part out and just focus on your niche But when your niche is your life that's when it gets more complicated So I really don't know what the answer will be. And the answer might change.

It might be one way for a while and then switch, you know, you never know. Or it could be different. Like they might choose something different than we would choose. So it'll be really interesting to see how it happens. Do you think it's like, okay, so I know, I've seen videos where people call out

certain family vloggers and things like that. Growing up in social media and being around that and seeing it really develop before your eyes while you were kids, do you think, I don't know, do you think it is as bad as people make it out to be? Have you seen situations where it has been horrible? What's your experience in that? It's as bad as it is not worse than people make it out to be. I think like kids that grew up in our generation, social media really wasn't like Bailey's been as it's not worse than people make it out to be. I think like kids that grew up in our generation, social media really wasn't like Bailey's been saying,

it's not, I feel like adults that were doing it with their kids didn't understand. Nowadays, they know. People know. And you make money with kid content. You know what you're doing. So a lot of people, I've seen quite a few families who pull their kids out of school.

And they're making content full time and homeschooling and you know that I think there does become a point where you're kind of crossing this line of taking your children's childhood kind of away. How did your parents navigate that with you guys? They were actually really pretty respectful of who wanted to be in videos and who didn't. We have our fourth sister down like Brooklyn, me, Camry, and Ryle, her name's Ryle, and she wasn't interested in being in videos as much and so she didn't get filmed. And then of course the conspiracy theories came out, people saying she was a least favorite

child because she wasn't in the videos, but really it was my parents trying to respect a boundary. So it's just different interpretations of things, but they were pretty good about expecting that boundary. And we were in school. We were in extracurricular activities. We had the opportunity to move to LA, and we didn't. We chose to stay out of that scene and grow up in high school and just doing the normal things so that we didn't become this of this like everything revolves

around making content all the time when you're a kid. But you see the other side of things too. Like we were living our life and then filming. We weren't filming or if that's happening since we weren't filming to live our life. Okay. If that makes any sense. No, totally. So it's a little bit different.

Like I said, it's just different time. I think it's a lot different now. But yeah, they're definitely scenarios. I think always where it's a little bit different. Like I said, it's just different time. I think it's a lot different now. But yeah, they're definitely scenarios. I think always where it's worse than probably. Especially because back when we started, it was like making money on YouTube wasn't like that. That was like, it was like, I've easy as it is now. So we got like a dollar in the mail.

Yeah, like a check in the mail. Was that like a centred at AdSense existed? It existed, but my mom's here, channel pre-adSense. Yeah, and then like I remember a year or something and they got a check in the mail for $3 and we're freaking out because they could buy a burrito and it was a big deal. And burritos being $3?

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So they just had like a bank account they would put money into basically. And then when we turned 18, we got that bank account. Basically it's how they did it. So it's kind of a salary I suppose, a monthly paycheck I suppose kind of thing. It's kind of how they did it, but I don't know how other people do that.

It's honestly like one of those weird, everybody can do it a different way. We were just talking to another family where their kids are kind of part of their social media, but they're trying to like walk that really good balance of like keeping them, you know, like in a regular lifestyle, but also social media, but like paying them, but like not giving them full access to funds

at a young age, you know. So it's really difficult. And I feel like a lot of people navigate it differently, you know, and there isn't a rule book. So that's the hard part is there's not, It's not like an accountant where there's like, oh, you paid a lot of money. This is the thing, it didn't even exist until this year. Like, this is the first year.

Yes, in some states, they protect children like child actors now, if they're social media. Including like kids on social media, which that didn't exist, like none of that existed. We were kids, you know. So, that's in place now. That's really cool. I didn't even, like none of that existed. We were kids, you know? So that's in place now. That's really cool. I didn't even realize that we made that progress

because I just thought we were still in the dark ages of like it's the Wild West out here. Like, no, but everybody's just. Slowly, yeah. Stay by state, I think, figuring it out. And I'm sure it will become more commonplace. Obviously, yeah, just like Hollywood kind of figured it out. I'm sure with the new age of social media, yeah.

We'll figure it out. It'm sure with the new age of social media, we'll figure it out. It's not like a super sensitive subject because I just know people feel so passionate about it. So it's just tough to navigate. But I feel like my parents did a really good job. For, I mean, this, like I said, it just, there wasn't a conversation. I mean, YouTube wasn't even,

YouTube like, you didn't exist. It was cat videos. Like, it just wasn't a thing for a really long time Do you are you glad that like you started when you were 13 or do you wish like you would have waited to do YouTube until you were Say 18 or maybe 70 I don't know interesting you say that because I was just having conversation with you about this That's how yeah, this is a tough question. I I was saying to him. I'm really we started when we did, because it's really hard to break through now. I think it's a lot harder. But there are some pivotal aspects.

I feel like we didn't really fully understand the big moments. So hitting a million subscribers, I just don't think we understood. We were in school. We were just filming for fun. We didn't really understand the meaning of it. And we were worried about homecoming then. Yeah. We were in school. We were just filming for fun. Like we didn't really understand the meaning of it. And we were worried about home coming then.

Yeah, yeah. We were worried about home coming then I did about like the number of followers we had. And so there are a couple big pivotal moments. Like when we launched our mascara, we were how old were we when we launched them? Trying to remember. We started it. We started it. We started it. We started it. We started it. We started it. We started it. And that's one of the things where I'm like, I still feel like I didn't fully comprehend like how amazing our launch was because we were so young when we did it.

And now it was like a 23, almost 24 year old entrepreneur, I'm like, dang! Like that was a really good launch and I don't think I really appreciated it in the moment. So there, I'm glad we did it, but there are some things I wish I just soaked in a little bit more. Abby went to your stay ITK event last year.

Remember right after where she was like, Matt, you've got to try these products. Like the skincare is amazing. Like I love the moisturizer. I started using the moisturizer in the face. It's so good. We went last year here. And whenever I run out, I just go to Walmart.

There you go. And I'm like, here it is. It's like a vignette. Yeah, we love it. It's been really fun. That's been our second product brand that we've launched because we have our mascara that we launched and this, you know, our skincare line just came out last year.

So, it's that right? Yeah. Last year, last year. Whoa. It's been so much fun. It's just like, I just, we both have so much passion for entrepreneurship and building businesses and growing businesses. It's what we graduated in. It's just so much fun. So and building businesses and growing businesses.

It's what we graduated in. It's just so much fun. So it's a blessing. I call us all serial entrepreneurs, because it's like, you just can't stop even if you're doing it. You don't stop. You just start business like this.

You add it on. Yeah, it's like just one more. That's so cool. Do you guys find yourselves like, toggling between like working a crazy amount and then like not working at all? Or like, because that's kind of how the boat I fall into. I really struggle out just like having a normal work

by balance. So that's not for newer. Do you find yourself just doing crazy hours and then you go too far and you're like, okay, I need a pullback. I need to take a break. All the time. I feel like we have surges of days

where we're working So many hours and then a week where we just Like all I have to do is just post on social media and like that's the majority of what I do during the day And then again like I said weeks it goes in waves I also think that's why a lot of people get really confused about like Influencers and what that job looks like because some days, I really am just sitting at home and then some days, it's like 15 hours of straight work so it just depends on the day.

Is that how y'all are too? Yeah, we've gotten better, I would say, at having more time. For me, truly social media is kind of just my job. I'm very thankful for it. I'm very thankful for it. I'm very grateful for it. But for Matt, it's like his hobby also. So for me, I want to treat it like a job. I want to have like, this is my on-time, this is my off-time.

Like, I don't want this to blend into my other time. And so that's why you've kind of moved towards like making it more like a strict schedule for us. Yeah. So she is. Yeah, I'm definitely more like I see it as a job, and it overwhelms my life if I let it become more than that. So I try really hard to set like strict hours in like,

you know, like nine to five. If I can keep my work schedule within those time hours, like I'm gonna try really hard to like put my phone down after five. Or, but it's just hard because at the end of the day, it's like, who's gonna post on Instagram, who's gonna post stories, who's gonna post a talk? And you guys are founders, and so you have to pick up the phone

or you can use the call. She's a lot better than I am about being able to do it round clock. I have a hard time with that. I'm like, it's my passion. I love it. I have so much fun every single day. And so I'm like, I wanna do more and more and more

all the time. And then of course, there's times where I'm just like, I just need a break, but almost all the time I just love it. What's weird, because I've been trying to adapt more to the schedule Abby has, and I don't feel as fulfilled. Like, because I just want to either go all in or not do it at all. I just know there's potential. I'm like, oh my gosh, it's really good. I didn't realize I was potential.

And so it's just like, it's easier for me to like, completely like, like, work a 15 hour day, or not do anything. Like just chill and watch, train your things. Like, binge a whole season and just like eat cookies. Like, I can only play with this in the room. But that's the thing. So now we have kids.

And so now like, I don't know about you. I love to stay. So now we have kids. And so now like, you have to give them kids. I don't know about you. I love to stay up late and work. Yeah. It's so fun. I can work till 5 a.m. My brain just doesn't shut off and I just love it. But like my son wakes up at 6 a.m.

And yesterday he woke up at 5.15. So like I don't know, I can't, I haven't figured it out yet. I guess a dad. I don't know how to do this. Like as a dad, because it's hard. You do a great job.

You don't give yourself enough credit though, like you hang out with the boys. Yeah, put it all back for that. So intentionally, like I don't know how you like continue to do what you do cause you put poor so much into your working and poor so much into your kids and at the same time protecting them too. Like, that's for thank you.

You do a very good job. You're not giving yourself a hard time. The podcast is not even about me and you're like, compliment it. Thank you. I know, you're not yourself short. I think it would be really hard to navigate with kids because I mean, you guys have them. I don't, but I'm assuming you have to have a more

rigid schedule because of kids. And so I can't imagine. I'm the same as you. Sometimes I just get inspired and I spend my entire day and entire night up until 3 a.m. just making something or creating something. I can imagine trying to work that in with also being a parent. That's hard. Which company or product? Well, because you also

have a clothing boutique. Yeah. Yeah. It's linked with our mascara. Yeah, so it's called Lashnakes store and that's our fashion and mascara brand. So that's just online. People can go shop anytime. And then we have our skin care line which is ITK which is nesker in the know and that's in Walmart and then yeah just in Walmart just like a smaller retailer. Yeah, not many people have heard that place. Yeah, that's so cool. And then of course we have like our social media which we consider a separate company like our social media company And then we all have some city. And then we have SIPCITY.

What is your favorite business that you've started? Oh my god. Depends on the day. Actually, picking a favorite time. Yeah. Oh my god. I feel, my most, the one I have the most passion for is our clothing and mascara brand.

Nice. We have an office we go in on Tuesdays and Thursdays. We have all of our co-workers that we work with. And I, I just feel like I can get really in it, like hands on in it. Satisfying wise, the skincare, I feel like being able to see the product on shelf and like, you know, I don't know. The scalp is probably huge. Yeah, it's, I would agree with Brooklyn. The child we first birthed was our mascara. So like obviously that's always gonna be the closest

to our heart, but that skincare line is amazing and it's a passion project and it's like, it's more rewarding, so rewarding. And so I don't know if I could pick between the two, honestly. I think you're changing lives really with the skincare too. Like because people's acne is going away and like they've never had that.

You know, like. It's been pretty great. It is great skincare we can test you with. I like it. I like from never washing my face to what? I use five products a day. I have to use it every night. It's like.

Fresh on your teeth. Yeah. You should be the first for a child. You can have like a before picture in the after picture. With that, he's such a fun video. Like my husband skincare routine before I have tried to convince him and he is too shy to film a video by himself about a skincare routine. But we should just lay on the pressure a little bit more. That's funny. Yeah, like I've seen some of the

videos. It's like my husband skincare. It's like their shampoo and it's like a bar of the rain. Terrible. Yeah. I feel like that was definitely a matter of dollar store. At least advice my face wash from the dollars. Okay, at least you bought it. Yeah, you're watching my face wash. It doesn't press it.

I use body wash. I was wondering why is my face so pimfully. I know she can get every day. I keep washing it and it's just. Yeah, just hey PSA, if you're buying your face wash from the dollar store, don't do the extra. Don't alarm. Yeah, don't alarm.

Don't watch your face with shampoo or body wash. Go buy real dedicated face wash. Yeah, can I ask which business is like killing it the most or which one you're like, this one just like freaking took off and. You know, it actually. So obviously getting to Walmart was huge there's a lot of stores and so that's automatically just gonna like step it up and notch above anything else

we've ever done yeah yeah I take this here our mascara has just taken off. TikTok shop changed. Wow. It changed our life. And with this mascara. We've sold, what is it? We're probably at 11,000 units. 12,000 less, like, two months. Wow. To talk shop alone, which we always thought of as like a, just like you said, like a boutique,

like it was just fun, but I never really, I don't know, we just, it was, we've never seen that kind of, yes, sales off of just our, like, kind of small, I would consider, like, we just, we've never seen that kind of sales off of just our like kind of small, I would consider like just fashion makeup brand online and we got on TikTok shop and it just has been taking off for us. Do you guys ship it all out yourselves? Yeah, we do, we do all our dishevee warehouse. But it's not like, do you guys physically go there and shoot it out? Or do you have a team though? Yeah, I, yeah. You're the only one who's here.

I think you'd be shocked to how small our team is though. Wow. I think we only have one warehouse manager and you can't all of our orders. We go back and help. Wow. And we hire part-time help when needed. But some months are slow and some months are crazy.

We're in the crazy season right now, so we obviously have part-time help. OK. I'm holding your glasses. And I'm like, I got it. I think in total, how many people do we have working in that office now? No, we're not talking about ITG. This is just for the mascara brand. Six. Six people. Our team is six people.

Okay. Maybe seven? Yeah. Like we said, we haven't had the growth we've had this year before. So we've had a pretty relatively out of consider small team. We plan on expanding this year. We've got to, at this point, because we're growing so quickly on TikTok Shop Fingers across, it stays that way. I think it's so cool because clearly, TikTok Shop is helping you guys.

But TikTok changed our life. We are, our YouTube channel is not taking off at all, and then TikTok helped us grow an audience on YouTube. And it's just cool how it opens up this opportunity for people to start businesses and build. I don't like, you can live in the middle of nowhere and start a business on TikTok and promote it and sell stuff on the shop.

And now you guys are blowing up your mask here. That's really cool. You don't even have to like have your own product on TikTok anymore. You can affiliate link somebody else's product and you don't have to have a certain amount of followers or anything to have a video go viral and make money off of selling products.

That's pretty crazy. I like that. It has changed people's lives. That's pretty true. Oh, I give TikTok credit where credit is due back when we started on, it was the first platform where the algorithm just promoted anybody that was like music video. It was first music like before tiktok. Yeah, back. Yeah.

The OG days was musically and then when tiktok first started you know the algorithm just pushed that's why people I think got so into tiktok was anybody from anywhere could go viral. So first time we've ever seen that on any platform. What's it like working with your sister? And then you guys, your husbands are also all, you guys are pretty closely working together. You're pretty integrated, but yeah, like not totally like hired on staff, but we just,

I'm looking for a job. Yeah, it's like hire me. I have edited a handful of videos for them. And I I mean just help when I can and take pictures and stuff But yeah, he's in videos you get paid to be in the videos, but that's about it Did you guys combine your bank accounts when you got married? We did not know way yeah, so This is very controversial. I feel like okay. I, I had him sign a, we sign pre-nups, the sign controversial, sign pre-nups, we bought people. We're gonna be a protector.

It's a virtue. It's a good thing. It's good thing for both parties. No, I'm such a proponent. Yeah, I'm a protector. We own multiple businesses when we got married. And I had a savings account. And my parents informed me in one of our attorneys

or you know, just told me, you know, you should probably have whoever you marry, sign them. Pre-Nap, just to protect yourself, you never know, people can marry you for the wrong reasons. They're receiving it. I will say we've seen it. Did you have first sign a pre-Nap for you?

Let's go, okay, yeah. There we go. Yeah, it's reversed too. It's not just the one. It was a pre-I-he. I had me sign when I had him sign when, but it was like, it was also, I don't wanna say a test because that's not just the one. It was a preaheeve. I had me sign one, I had him sign one. But it was also, I don't want to say a test because that's not true.

It wasn't a test, it was real. But it did show me he was in it for the right reasons because when I brought it up, I key knew very early into dating that this was going to be something that would happen. But when I brought it up, he was like, yeah. And, okay, sure, I'll sign it here. When I feel like if someone is gonna be very like,

like push back against that, then what is the purpose? Yeah, that's suspicious. Yeah, that's my purpose. Well, I don't you wanna say. And also you can cater a prenup to be kind of whatever you want it to be. So like, I think a lot of people's prenups will like expire after 10 years.

So your marriage lasts. A certain amount of time, then it will expire and at that point, then if anything happens, everything is together. So you can cater to whatever you want to say. You can put clauses in it. So it's very, I think ours is, it doesn't have to be. I think there's a limited knowledge

in the community about what a pre-NAP even is. And it's a stigma, I think, just like, oh, you should trust your partner, like getting married. We're never going to get divorced. I would never have my partner sign a, you know, and I'm like, well, I came into the relationship with businesses I have to protect. Like, can you imagine if someone married you for the wrong reasons and they walked away

with half of your business? Yeah. That's crazy for their life. Yeah, for the rest of their life. Like, you never get that back. That's fully theirs. So it just, yeah, but he didn't even blink an eye. Well, I think it does change things when you're like a massive YouTuber and you have,

you have like all these businesses. Yeah, we had nothing when we got married. So we're like, okay, we'll just sign the papers, you know, we don't, or- We can say what we made in 2020. I think we made just $12,000. $11,000 together of $12,000 $11 together together What the hell?

We did not make very much money like You guys How are you guys when you got married? No, no, no, no, this is before completely before so to me and then in our regular jobs We made combined $11,000. That was $20,000. It was $20,19 or $20,18. For you guys when you got married. We were 20 and 21. I can't even tell. So you guys were really young.

I can tell. And we had scholarships. I can't even go to school. I'm ready to go to school. I'm ready to go to school. I'm ready to go to school. I'm ready to go to school. So rent for us, there was like $500 a month,

utilities and all that. Like all in, we are. For groceries a week, when we never ate out, we spent $70 to $80. Yeah, we spent $75 a groceries a week, when we never ate out, we spent 70 to 80 dollars. Yeah, we spent $75 a week on groceries, and we barely ate out. And then rent all in with utilities was under 600. Oh, that's right.

And then we went to a really cheap state school. We got scholarships. So like, we essentially were going to school for free with this guy. You're very smart. Because we just, we wanted to get married, youngs, we knew like, yeah, we just kept our expenses as low as possible. Yeah. So yeah, we lived in low income housing. And we just, we wanted to get married, youngs, we knew like, yeah, we just kept our expenses as low as possible.

Yeah. But yeah, we lived in low income housing. And we were so happy because we had each other. I think that's exactly what, like, the whole moral of the story is, money is not happiness. Like, yeah, so be happy on. But look how hard work did.

Look at you guys. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. It does kind of like, I don't want to diminish the support of having like, if something were to happen, we had family. We never took money from them. Like, never asked for money, but we had them. And I don't want to diminish the support of having like if something were to happen We had family we never took money from them like never asked for money But we had them and I don't want to diminish that support like what that actually means to have But yeah, sometimes when people say things I'm like, oh, but do you remember?

Literally three years ago We're out here at Aldi and we were saying no to one dollar ice cream. I don't want to hear it I so I bought myself my own car and my brother got his car. Like he just got it and he had repairs on his. I was paying for like everything for my car and turns everything and he had a $500 like repair or something and I found out about it and I got so pissed at my parents because like I bought my car, I'm paid for my insurance

and you paid for it and like he got it for free. But like no, we had their support though. If everything would have blown up in our faces, I could have lived in my parents' basement and had a place to live and eat in their food. So I was fortunate. I was fortunate. Are you an older child?

On the middle kid. Was this brother younger, older? My older brother. Oh, I feel like as an older sibling, I get that a lot where it's like my younger siblings are, you know, of course, like my parents are more strict with the older ones and then like they loosen up as the younger ones come around.

No, but I'm so thankful for having to like work. Because then it just, it taught me everything that I know today and like I wouldn't be here. And I look back on that time so fondly. It's not like it was like. So thankful for it. And we always talk, we're like, if you could just go back. I'm glad my parents didn't give me any money to buy a car.

Like I'm glad I had to do it myself because then it taught me that work ethic. But I want to ask you Dakota, how was your reaction to that? Were you like, oh, frick, we're doing it pre-nut? Like, what was your... No, I mean, it totally made sense because I mean, I want to protect myself too. So, yeah, well, definitely,

Dean, think twice about it. Yeah, so. Yeah, it was just like one of those, and you know, like when you're married, I'm like, my parents were married at 20, I think, too. Yeah, it was just like one of those, and you know, like when you're married, you're like my parents were married at 20, I think, too. Wow. Like they were in school and didn't have anything there was, like there's no need for it when you're like

starting at the same level, but when, you know, like, for Dakota, you know, he got married a little bit older and had kind of established finances in a life and a business and at that point for us both, it made the most sense to just be like, what was yours before is yours and what was mine before is mine and what we build together is together. I think, like I said, I think there's a weird stigma of people being like, oh, if you make them sign a prenup, it's basically confirming you'll get divorced or that you'll just never

take care of them. I assume you'll get divorced. And I'm like, no, that's not it's like a worst case near. It's like having a will. By riding a will, you're not saying anything bad is going gonna happen. It's just there just in case maybe a pretty romantic I think I know I think one to ask about too is you guys didn't take like you obviously traditionally the wife takes the last name of the husband You guys didn't take your husband's last names, right? So actually we hyphenated so we both took each other's last

Okay, so we didn't see that a lot. No, it was really uncommon and when we talked about it like we got mixed reception about it but I... Yeah, we love it. Don't really care. I'm like I wanted to keep my last name. He wanted to keep his but I wanted us to be like a family unit. Yeah, and give our kids the same name. Yeah, so we're the Picnite Hauards. That's cool. Hauards. Hauards. Yeah, we're actually family. We're family. Aisa is actually my brother. He's here today.

Did you know that Hauard wrote a picture at the end of this? That's cool. No. It's definitely untraditional for sure. And you guys didn't have any. No. No, we didn't do anything. Not just like I love his last name, his last name is really cool.

Blackburn is his last name. Whoa, okay. And, but I also love McKnight. And part of me is like the oldest daughter. I'm sure Bailey feels a little bit of this. You know, for a long time, we didn't have any boys. Like, it was just the four girls before we had DACs. And so, I didn't know if the McKnight name would even get carried on if all of us took

our husband's name. So, you know, obviously now we have a brother and you know the name can be carried on But there's a part of me that still was like my degrees in my last name everything is in my last name like There really isn't any reason for me to change it And Dakota didn't particularly care I forget all about it. Yeah, we don't we really don't issues with it. The only hard part will be like when we have kids obviously like deciding on the last name that we're gonna give our children. But I think at that point we might just not give our kids a middle name and just do both last names. Yeah. That's actually it's really good idea. Yeah. And you know, the lessons are open and ever we can do whatever they feel comfortable with, you know.

I just again we were both adults and it was like I didn't, you know, I like my last name he likes his last name. Yeah. And what have you guys decided or have you not decided what you would do? I will be McKnight Howard. Yeah, but that's right. Okay, that was a really dumb question. Back it up like, yeah, that's, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, well, I don't know about middle names. Well, they'll probably be long, long name. I grew up with four names. Whoa. Both of my, it's really weird, it's like kind of foreshadowing because all of my best friends growing up all had four names. Everyone I knew had four names. The very southern thing to be like.

Yeah, like my best friend in high school had two first names. My best friend in high school also had two last names. He had two last, well He had two last well middle names I'm not going by five names now What are the names out out of your parents? They're like an older grandparent No, it's not as easy. He did not like I didn't like the name It was it was a Sari and Hardy Howard

So he took hardy party. Yeah, it was like a great grandparent. We do like Tom Hardy. That's such a tough name, okay? Way hardy I can see Hardy Howard, but like if you were like a so hardy, I'd be like bro I mean, he's like a sweet guy. I know, I'm like, he's not quite fitting. Not quite fitting. Well, what were some of the, like, did you guys get any out there reactions when you told people that you were doing a prenup or that you were not taking your husband's last name?

Yeah, I mean, I think there's always gonna be out there reactions when you're telling, basically, like, eight million people and nine million people that you're doing something and they don't agree. And that's totally fine if you don't agree. Like, no hard feelings, but yeah, definitely some people were felt passionate.

I remember talking even with close family, they were shocked that I wasn't gonna just give up my last name. A couple of his cousins were saying, oh, but don't you just feel like it's your responsibility to be like take on your husbands, whatever, whatever. And I'm just, for me personally, that's not how I felt. And so, I just knew how I wanted to do it and was not deterred. But, yeah, I can do whatever they want.

I feel like, we were, my mom is like, you know, we mentioned this a little bit earlier. She's like a very tough woman. Like she just is like a hardcore woman. And she raised us all to be like hardcore women. And like everyone has an opinion and their opinions are valued. And so I appreciate marrying someone who values my opinion, you know, and like I appreciate that Dakota was so willing to be like, yeah, you feel so strongly about this as a woman. Like, yeah, you can keep your last name and it doesn't affect me.

Yeah, same here. We just compromised. Yeah. He wanted to keep his. I didn't make him give up his last name. He didn't make me give up my last name. Like, it was a fully full compromise. And I will shout my dad out, because we were also raised around a really loving and caring father figure as well, who like showed us

that that was something we could look for in husbands. Like when Bailey and I both walked ourselves down the aisle on our wedding day, because we felt very strongly that we didn't need to be given to anybody that we could give ourselves. And so, and my dad, of course, same thing as our husbands was very much like, you feel that strongly. I love you. And I just want to support you in whatever way I can. And like, if you feel strongly about this, like, I'm here to just support, you know, yeah, talk about that a little bit more,

because I feel like that was probably something that you guys have done a lot of untraditional things. Yeah. And you guys would be to stay here. I was inspired to get women though, like I think about a younger listening or like knowing you guys. And you have a lot of young women looking up to you,

so that's really cool. So you start all these businesses, it's really inspiring. Thanks. So you, you sat your dad down. You, I guess, I was first. It was really weird that it's really inspiring. Thanks. So you said your dad down. You, I guess, I didn't. It was really me. It was really me.

It's instigated the combat. It was all kinds of factors that went into it. One thing that people could not wrap their heads around, they were like, well, do you not like your dad? And you're like, I love your dad relationship with them. I know, we have a great relationship. That had nothing to do with it. It was just traditionally and traditional marriages. The dad walks you down the aisle to quote-unquote give you away

And I didn't feel like I needed a man to give me away. I wanted to give myself away to When we got married our whole theme was It doesn't have to follow the tradition like yeah, we wrote our own script for the ceremony You're like we just wanted to do it our own way, and we didn't really care. I've actually officiated two weddings. No way. Mine.

Yeah, that is really cool. But the only role is they have to say I do, and I have to say by the power of us and me, or now husband and wife. The rest of it is just tradition. That's it. Everything is a tradition. Yeah, everything is a tradition.

So that's really cool. I like how thoughtful you guys have been with this whole process. I'm sure that I'll extend into your parenting too because I feel like it's really easy with tradition. I'm someone I love tradition. But I think it's really easy being someone that's very traditional to become passive. This is how we do it. And not ever actually thinking like why. And like, you know, is there something that's more fitting to us and to our family? So that's really cool. Yeah, I mean, like I said, if you love tradition, that's awesome. Just for me personally, it was like, it's only just what I've ever made you

happy. I feel like if you feel fulfilled and happy and the things you're doing and like the the role you're filling like then that's all that really matters at the end of the day. But it's like Brooklyn said I sat my dad down and told him just like hey I think I might want to walk myself down the aisle just so I can have that moment to myself and also just you know this is how I feel about this topic and he was like okay I thought he might be like a little bit upset like I mean of, that's understandable since it's so traditional. You raised your daughter thinking. Yeah, and he was like, yeah, no, it's fine. And I was like, okay, okay. And he's like, yeah, my dad's. He's the only stimulation was he wanted to hug me at the end of the aisle.

So he got to hug me at the end of the aisle. And I hug my mom. I'm like, oh. She's so cute. For a minute there, it was just the four girls. So I feel like he's a little bit more like tenderhearted because he just grew up. I would say significantly by women. It was a bit more like a woman. It was a bit more like a woman. It was a bit more like a woman.

It was a bit more like a woman. It was a bit more like a woman. Yeah, he really was. He's just very tenderhearted because he grew up, I think, around so many women. He has so many daughters. Yeah, so he's a twin sister. I mean, it's just like. Yeah.

And what about your mom? Did she have all brothers or like what? She's older brothers. She's older brothers. She's older sisters. Yeah, she has a tell of the above. Because my mom had all sisters, but they all went on to be engineers.

They graduated from engineering degrees. Oh, please. Yeah, powerful women in my family. And so, like, I don't know, I just think that's, I can totally relate to your, like, yeah, growing up with that. The family dynamic. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

I want to just be friends with you guys. Like, we're all the same. We're all the same. We can go live. We can go live. Like, yeah, we're all the same. We can go live. We can go live.

Yeah, we can go live. Yeah, we can go live. Yeah, we can go live. Yeah, we can go live. Yeah, we can go live. Yeah, we can go live. Yeah, we's a house next door to us for so long. Let's get it. Wait, actually, I'm actually, she's gonna go. That's how we make decisions honestly. If someone's like, why did you come to Arizona? We're like, we just did.

No, we just did. All right, and how we're gonna pack up. And same thing with the white, we just like ran on a whim to say I can't have to white. But that's what, like I love that our family's moving to us now, but then I'm also like crap. Like if we want to move to Texas on the way home. We can't now.

We can't. We love our family's here. Your houses are really close together, huh? Yeah, so we originally want to move to Texas on the way home. We can't, no. We can't. Our families here. Your houses are really close together, huh? Yeah, so we originally had houses next to each other. We were in the process of like purchasing those homes. And then of course it got so expensive to buy houses. So I ended up bumping over a neighborhood. So we're literally like across the street

from each other less than five minutes away. We love it. I was going to ask, yeah, do you love it? Or sometimes they're the sibling conflict that comes from it? I mean, there's always sibling conflict. Yeah, you're sisters, you know? But not that I feel like ever comes from living.

No, it's not proximity. The only way to work. Yeah, it's only really like tips we ever really have is overwork. And that's inevitable considering work. Like we talked about earlier, it's pretty much 24%. Yeah, we felt we had ourselves on the back sometimes because we're like okay

We personally spend all of our time together. We work together Yeah, so we're like okay, we're gonna get it to fight but like Yeah, like really that frequent considering how much time we spent together Really not would you ever live together again? We lived we lived together when we were married Yeah, yeah, for the first little bit We shared a rental house. I would do it again on the stipulation that we had like two floors because we were on one floor and our rooms are kind of Like sharing the kitchen and the little tree like that's the and newlyweds yeah we really really was yeah we're newlyweds so there were like two

floors or something totally downright I feel like it was a slay we were living the new girl we are having so much fun I was loving it so much fun it was very cheap yeah well okay so then it's not like you two get along great but then also your husband's get along yeah Yeah, you guys best friends I like yeah, they're pretty close Yeah, yeah, it's just like that we both married very like even calm like just you know like they get along everybody. So they were gonna get along no matter what. Yeah, I was inevitable. Please, inevitable.

And long time. Also part of the stipulation of marrying twins, you just have to get along, circling back to what we talked about. Yeah. You guys said something on your Q&A about getting married recently. You're newlywed Q&A, how, like this,

you guys don't think marriage is hard. Like you guys were, like, this is so kind of a pressure. I know, I know. I would have written it out. Wee. Like this you guys don't think marriage is hard like you guys for yeah Because you guys are like it's actually really easy My personal opinion is marriage isn't hard, but life is Okay, that's how I feel about it. I'm like being married, like choosing every day to, like, love him and not get a divorce, I guess, is not difficult.

The hard part is the things that we're experiencing together. Like, you know, like, that's where things get hard. Like, you know, whether that's, I don't know what it looks like for every couple, but having kids or finances or bubble, that's life. Your marriage itself, I feel like, obviously, we argue and, like, just like every couple, but loving each other's not hard. I feel like obviously we argue and like just like every couple But loving each other's not I feel like you also have to stipulate that that's your personal experience Yes, of course for other people maybe their marriage is hard personally like their relationship together

But for their from their personal experience you're speaking from your personal. Yes. Yeah My personal experience is like loving Dakota isn't the difficult part. Like life is the difficult part. That's my opinion. But I did get a lot of people in my comments that were like, what are you talking about? But I mean, that's just my experience. Aces Mayor Chard? No.

It's not. I mean, yeah, same thing for us. Like, I feel like we're best friends. We pretty much try to spend as much time together as possible. And like Brooklyn said, it's life that makes things hard. It's trying to compromise when there's not always something that we agree on or trying to balance each other's emotions. Like, sometimes the emotions just don't you know

the way that she might feel about something is not how I feel about something and That's where I feel like the struggle can come through and learning how to listen and communicate is really where yeah But if you take that something out of the equation, then there's not an issue That's what I'm saying is like that something is something life is thrown at you that you have different opinions about or you have different Emotions about like that I feel like it's where yeah, I mean we've been together for Seven years a long time and Wow, it's I've I would never categorize it as hard

I think why it would be hard We can tell we can tell you guys Tell you guys. We can tell you a little bit of hard stuff. I love that you guys. I really love that you guys are saying that it's not hard and I want you guys to always say that. Feel that way. I hope that you know you're like, Mayor, just so easy.

I really want that for you. I think that they, I feel like if they've gotten to this point and you're there, like probably yes. Like if you find like a really good like balance, I think we're both very strong-willed people. Yeah. That's probably true. You're so made aware of that.

We're both so- We're both here. We're both so-willed people. We're both so-willed people. We're both so-willed people. We're both so-willed people. We're both so-willed people. We're both so-willed people.

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or like living habits, like that can be hard. But I'm talking literally just strictly about like loving your partner. Like loving your partner is not difficult. Loving your partner enough to not like just up and leave them. Yeah, yeah. To me, that's never an option. That's not a choice because I love him so much.

That's where it's not. I mean, we definitely have disagreements. Like, should I go to the story where they were dating a buyer? The grocery is everyday, really? I think I agree with it. I agree with the person. I think it depends on how you categorize as hard.

Okay. Yeah. How you define that might make the difference between what you say is difficult, what you say is it. Because everybody argues. Like, we're not sitting here saying because we're saying It's not hard. We don't struggle But it's just like all together do the pros that way the cons is there ever time where I rather be single No, do we feel like you want to be married to somebody else now?

Yeah, you know like those are the things it's always beautiful. I really like that. Yeah, that's really sweet I'm happy for you. I love that. It's always beautiful. I really like that. Yeah, that's really sweet. I'm happy for you. I love that. I'm happy for you. You can tell me you love me right now. I love you very much. I love you so much. No, we've been to this weird func, where we'll have a gnarly fight and then we'll be

like an hour later. I think Tandertune was doing that. Yeah, maybe it's just a two-and-a-two thing, but it's like, we'll be in a gnarly fight, and then it's just like, I love you so much. I'm just like, can we just freaking find some meal? Find them in the middle. Find somewhere in the middle where it's not really, really good or really, really bad.

I'm like, let's just have a normal relationship. I don't know. I have two kids. That's crazy. That's the hardest part. It is probably in emotions from toddlers or things into you. If you survive this, your marriage can survive.

Mom almost did anything. Well it's just like, yeah, especially when it's 5am and your kids screaming and you're like, okay, like, that wasn't beautiful. That wasn't beautiful. I don't know. That wasn't hard to do.

Yeah, because for me, I'm like, I'm gonna just, I just need like 30 more send abs. Like, can you please get out of bed already? Like, can you still cry? Okay. Well for me, yeah, this is this whole side conversation with my babies are upset. Like, oh, it's fight or flight.

And usually I want to fight Matt if they're upset. I'm like, you know, she takes it. She takes it. I'm like, they're upset. But then my thing is like, you know, half the time they cry and then like one minute later, like, back asleep, you know.

A minute of my sun crying feels literally, like I'm like, did you set a timer? Cause we like, we'll let them be like, you know, a little bit upset for five minutes and then before we go in and intervene, just we don't wake them up more. They're like kinda just tossing me turning. But I'm like, that five minutes felt like five hours.

Well, how did you, okay, have you guys ever thought about money before? Cause like, we've always pried and prided ourselves in like, we've never once had a money fight, ever, until a month ago. And it was like, I was like, dang, I thought we'd never, ever have that, you know? Yeah, we've had a few, I wouldn't even say necessarily argument so much, is like, we just had different opinions about like where we should spend our money slash like how to spend it, especially starting a new business.

That was like obviously required a lot of cash flow. And so like figuring out how to spend that and like we have only the set amount and like we have to be strategic. But I wouldn't say that that's something we really argue about a lot. Yeah, we're blessed. We're blessed for sure with the job that we do and the finances that we make.

And so I feel like for us personally, because we've been so blessed, it's not been a conversation we've had to have, but I know that doesn't go for everybody. So just depends on the situation and where you're at in life. Recently, you guys brought up on, I think, TikTok about a story of you guys dealing with a stalker. Yeah. And that freaked me out, because we've never luckily dealt with a situation like that. Talk about that, because that's really scary.

Yeah, I'm so for the people listening, I guess, that haven't seen it, I talked recently. And really, to be honest with you, we've never spoken openly about stalkers. I'm not sure why, maybe, because I thought it would bring more or invite more problems. Safety, yeah. So there was never, I don't know, I just never felt

comfortable talking about it. And then just one day I sat down to film and get ready with me. And I just, just for some reason, decided I was like, OK, like it's been six years. I'll tell this story. But I had a guy who was following me for a really long time in high school and just got to a really creepy level

where he showed up at my house and was like trying to get in and was sending me letters at my home and paid money for my address and showed up at my school. And so eventually we moved and changed my phone number and like never heard from him again, but and this is just you Bailey yeah I don't think people understand like just because we're twins doesn't mean we're not targeted into individual yeah we can totally happen we've had two really bad

stalker stories one was focused on Bailey and one was focused on me and we've not really had anything outside of those two okay yeah most of the other ones are pretty, like a couple other squabbles, but minor, and then we had to like really major scary, scary situations. So you saw them in person? I did from my guy, I did on let's see one, two, three, four, four occasions. Geez. You would just show up everywhere we were. That's why we were seeing him all the time because it was like, it was quite literally stalking. Like, it was like where we were, he was there.

So that's why she saw him so much. But the hard part is like, police like, a lot of enforcement has to have certain things in order to get involved. I tried and they like told me I had to have a recording of myself telling him to leave me alone And then he had to physically show up again And they had to leave me alone to get a string property. Yeah, it was like a whole list of things

What do people do though because like that's you you already had the altercation So I guess if people listening right now ever have a situation like that you should take a video have a situation like that, you should take a video. That video there's also time. That first time. You can say literally the word say, leave me alone. I do not want to see you. And then if they show up again, it's like, but then again, this was six years ago.

So maybe it's different now. I'm not sure. I was also 17, so I couldn't even remember probably properly, but that's what I remember happening. It's like, we had to get a recording of him and by the time we got in recording, that's what I remember happening. It's like, we had to get a recording of him and then by the time we got in recording, that's an a dangerous situation. Record, even if you're feeling uncomfortable,

just record everything for evidence purposes, for like, and then if you ever feel like someone is stalking you, get a very, very, very clear recording of you saying, I do not want you to follow me. This is against my will. Will, yeah. And then at that point, the police can get more involved recording of you saying, I do not want you to follow me. This is against my will. Will. Okay. And then at that point, the police can get more involved.

Because like at that point, you've directly said, I do not want that. But I think at first we just, I don't know. In my memory, it was like when it was happening, it wasn't registering as big of a deal as it now feels. Yeah. I think there's a lot of things that happen to me in high school.

Then like, oh, wait. Yeah. That was crazy. We were just talking about that. What were we talking about? Things when you're, that's why it's kind of scary even, like so many things like having teenagers, like your view of perception is not,

your view of reality is not, you're just worthy. Yeah, but you're just like, man, you know, that's kind of, yeah. But I was like, yeah, I mean, I was scared. Yeah, but you're just like, man, you know, that's kind of, yeah, but I was like, yeah, I mean, I was scared. Yeah, like there's a guy stalking me, but not to a degree, I probably should have been like the first time he showed up, I should have called the cops. You know what I mean? Yeah. I should have been way more intense about it, but at the time, it just, I don't know, it just didn't register. I don't know what teenage brains.

I thought maybe it was a one-off scenario. Well, yeah. There's a lot of things you could also explain away. Yeah. Yeah. And you did get a restraining order, though, eventually. No, I never did. Oh, you never did. So we got the recording of us saying, leave me alone.

OK. And then he showed up at my school, but not within a physical, like, it's really hard to explain. OK. But basically, like, not enough to get a restraining order. You got a restraining order? Yeah. So sort of this one's a very complicated story. Oh, I'll give you the general details. There was someone in our DMs very obsessed with the particularly with my virginity and like it just a t another teenage boy and

Eventually it got heated to the point where he figured out where we were going to church when I was in college and shut up there and kind of camped out the parking lot and then Threatened to do a lot of dangerous things if I didn't see him and Anyway, I had to get police involved and that he did actually get arrested on side and they put a rest on, sorry, they found him and then they put in a rest on site for like my school campus and my church. So if he ever came back around, they could arrest him on side. So kind of like a restraining order, but not like for me personally, just more the area because he did threaten to, you know, do some dangerous things in the area. So, um, yeah, that was, that was one where it was, I have like a case

file of like older information about him, his car, his license plate, everything that I still have. And for some reason, like, I'm still sitting here like nervous to talk about it for some reason, like, I'm so like, oh, like, what if this has like repercussions or something, but, you know what, this is the reality. This is what happens to us. Here you go. I am so so sorry. No, I'm just grateful that considering the career

and the length of the career we've had, that it's been so minimal for us and I had no direct contact with my dude. What can people do to like protect themselves at that? Other than do a recording, if there's ever an authentication to show to the police. Yeah, don't post where you are publicly like IRL. Yeah, yeah.

Don't show license plates and addresses. Don't hand out personal information like phone numbers, emails, anything. Also, I would say listen to your gut because even when you're like, because it's so, especially I feel like as women you dismiss it so even when you're like, cause it's so, especially I feel like as women you dismiss it so often. You're like, oh, I'm just like, I'm making it up in my head.

He's not really following me or, oh, I'm like, in the grocery store in that guy kind of looks at me weird, but like, no, he's not doing that. Like, I would say follow your gut. You're feeling uncomfortable, remove yourself from the area. I do now, like, in the moment when that guy showed up the first time, I just had like like I mentioned it in the TikTok, but I just had like a Sick feeling like sick and I'd never seen this man never talked to this man

I just had a sick feeling and sure enough it ended up being pretty bad and so now like I don't even question it I don't even stick around. I'm like I'm out. Yeah, even like I think we went to a movie one time And I was like I'm out. I'm leaving. I don't feel good I'm leaving like we even stick around. I'm like, I'm out. Even, I think we went to a movie one time and I was like, I'm out. I'm leaving. I don't feel good. I'm leaving. We were out of restaurant time. We're out.

We're leaving. Just random scenarios. I'm better say I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 10 out of 10 times. What's the half of a movie in a costy versus if something happens? I listened to that.

That's a really good advice. I love that you can trust your. Internet safety ladies and gentlemen Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Well you guys it's been a pleasure speaking you today like it's you guys are so cool I feel like we really connected over the Yeah, no, we're gonna actually move into your neighborhood now I wish we had more time since we played with him. We said song, we said we friends.

Wait, dang it, we need a play. He's so good and so competitive. I'm waiting time. I'm waiting time. We're not wins every time. Let's play with him. Okay, where can people follow you guys? Like tell people where they can find you.

Yeah, pretty much every social handle is Brooklyn and Bailey. Okay. If you just look at Brooklyn and Bailey, you'll probably see us. You can find our clothing and our mascara at slashnextdoor.com and then you can find our skincare ITK at Walmart. See you in the next video. That is so cool. And if you're in the area, visit Subsidio.

Yeah, I'm in the city. In the DFW area, come visit Subsidio. That's so cool and if you're in the area visit six city Yeah, like the DFW area come visit so city that's so cool. Thank you guys Thank you. Well as always this where we say peace out dudes. Oh One