The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Cash & Kate on Saving Kissing for Marriage, UTIs & Getting Engaged in High School

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

Cash and Kate discuss saving kissing for marriage, dealing with UTIs, and getting engaged in high school. Tune in for their unique journey and insights! This episode is sponsored by Huggies, DoorDash, Factor and Claritin. Huggies: Baby Butts Rejoice! New Huggies Skin Essentials are here. Learn more at https://Huggies.com DoorDash: Sign up for DashPass today and get your first 30 days free if you’re a new member. Subject to change. Terms apply.  Factor: Head to https://factormeals.com/unplanned50 and use code UNPLANNED50 to get 50% off your first box plus 20% off your next month.  Claritin: Go to https://claritin.com for a discount so you can Live Claritin Clear.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We kissed and then we stopped kissing while we were dating. Were you nervous on the wedding day? Like were you worried that it might look awkward? Like we might glitch. Go for the cheat. Did you guys wait till marriage? Yeah. How was that?

Why do you think we got married so quick? I know. I'm like, I kind of assumed. That's hard. Yeah, tell me about it. You had an yeast infection that trip because we were newlyweds. And no one told Abby to pee after me about it. You had a yeast infection that trip because we were newlyweds and no one told,

no one told Abby to pee after we did it. Oh my gosh, wait, save. We sat down with TikTok stars, Cash and Kate, who got married right out of high school. You might've seen some of their comedy skits online where they share everything from the realities of being married young to living with their in-laws. We talk about saving kissing for marriage,

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Can we just get the records straight? How old are you guys? Cause I literally have no idea. 12. No, she's not by the way. Are you guys in, are you guys 2019? How like? I'm 19.

You're 19? Yeah. Yeah, 19. I'm 21. Wow. Yeah. No way. You ever heard the meme 21?

Yeah. That is crazy. Yeah. That was so long ago for me. But then I just just like me and you guys I'm like, oh yeah, they're probably like 20, 23. I feel the same though as like when we were in 19 and 20. Like true. I get that. I have the same thoughts. 19 to me as I'm like, oh my gosh, like you're you're a child. Like you're not. No. Okay. Yeah. You guys are married. married. How long have you guys been married? Almost two years.

Wait, so were you seven? No, okay, so I turned 18, and two days after we turned 18, I got married. Her dad's only wish when we asked if we could get married was just wait till she's 18, so we waited two days. And then we got married. So I'm gonna turn 20, and then it'll be our two years, two days later.

You guys, that is really young. Oh, I know. How old, so you were 17 when he proposed. Yeah. She was in high school. I was like in high school. You got engaged in high school. What did people think? What did people tell you? Oh I was, I mean okay. I, from my perspective, which I don't know if anybody I went to school with ever sees my stuff anymore, but I literally left public school because it was too rough for me once I started doing social media. No. Because I started right around COVID. And so we were already online school, and then I started doing social media during COVID. And then when school started back up, we had the option to stay online. So I was like, I'm going to stay online. And I was still at the same school though. And then the next year, my school didn't offer online. I had to go in person and I was like, um, I'm gonna stay online and I was still like at the same school though And then the next year my school didn't offer online I had to go in person and I was like no, so I just never went back but I saw like I don't know I knew people made fun of me

like I would see my stuff posted and people's private stories and like Stuff like that and then when we got engaged people were kind of mocking me in my own comments Because I saw someone that was like congrats and I was like, I don't think you really mean that But it's fine I'm good now Really hard like yeah, it was it was it was a weird time. Honestly, like how did you know? Cuz you're you're so young you guys are in love. You're dating you're yeah, probably talking about getting engaged Like yeah, how did you know at 17? This is what I want. Oh, well, it wasn't 17. It was more like 16. We asked my dad when I was 16 if we could get married.

And he was like. His only words were, I'll think about it. That was it. We were watching the garage. I was like, Scott, my man. And then I asked him, and were you there too? I don't remember if I went down that night. And he was like, not even looking at me.

He was messing with his thing in the garage and I'm just like staring at his back and I'm like, yeah, so what do you think about us getting married? He literally doesn't even look at me, doesn't turn around. He just goes, I'll think about it. Were you nervous or? Well, he was like 17 at the time too so you were probably a little nervous. Yeah, maybe a little but Scott's pretty cool. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I mean, we had started,

so we started dating when I was 15, I believe. Yeah, I was 15, but we had known each other. We met when we were like 10. So we had like always liked each other and we would always kind of flirt with each other when we'd see each other. And like, we just didn't start dating until we were 15 and 16.

And at this point, you were making music on YouTube, right? Like were you, did you look at him and you're like, oh my gosh, like I'm dating a pop star. Like this is insane. It was weird because I had known him before he really started doing social media. And so we always talked and like, then he starts doing social media and I was like,

oh, it's cool, but like, I didn't think much about it. I mean, I was like, it's cool. And then we started dating and it was, when I started doing social media and I was like, oh it's cool but like, I didn't think much about it. I mean I was like, it's cool. And then we started dating and it was when I started doing social media with him is when it kind of hit me. I was like, oh this is a lot. A lot? Like how? It was, well he was kind of, when he was 16, not so much anymore because he's married, but when he was 16, he was like, a lot of the girls had a crush on him and he was just kind of like... What the, not anymore? Wow. You say it and I don't... I'm just, I'm just saying. You know what's fine. Yeah. No, but he's just because you're married now.

But yeah, so a lot of the girls didn't like that he had a girlfriend. And it was crazy. It was weird because I wasn't used to people like online hating on me like that because I didn't do social media. So it was like out of nowhere, I was just flooded with comments and hate and DMs and death threats and like crazy things. And then you go to their account and it's literally like an 11 year old girl. And I'm like, where is your mother?

Like it was crazy. So that was the hardest for me was that there were so many people online that were being so mean about it. But other than that, and the people at school that I knew were kinda laughing at me. How did you deal with that? How did you cope?

I did the best I could to ignore it. I mean, a lot of times I didn't wanna do it. I was like, I don't wanna do it anymore. Like, I hate it. It's so, and he was like, you're not gonna let the people you go to school with talk you out of this, because it's good, you're like, you can do so good with this. And I hate it. It's so and he's like, you're not going to let the people you go to school with talk you out of this because it's good. You're like you can do so good with this. And I was like, okay. So it was like that. And I had a few like

good friends that kind of helped me to like get through it. They were like, okay, what you're doing is really cool. And everyone knows it. They're just all making fun of you because it's easy to make fun of you and not support you. But what did your parents say about which which part? Social media? Yeah, yeah. They were kind of confused. It all happened so fast.

I started doing social media. I got all the followers. We get engaged. We got married. It all happened so fast to them. So I think they were very overwhelmed with it all. They were overwhelmed because I'd started right when I turned 16 and I started making money then.

So I've never actually had like a real job. So that was one thing that they really wanted me to like experience. But by 16 and I started making money then. So I've never actually had like a real job. So that was one thing that they really wanted me to like experience. But by that point I was making money. So it was like, eh, maybe not. And then when we wanted to get married, they were not concerned. They were just like, you can't wait a little bit, you know?

And I was like, no. And so they finally came to like terms with it. And then they were like happy with it and they supported it. You don't hear about a lot of high schoolers, we were the same way honestly in high school. We were like, we're gonna get married. And people were like, okay, cute, down the line.

We're like, no, we wanna get married soon. We got married a couple years after high school but there definitely, a lot of people were confused about it because you don't hear a lot of high schoolers talking about marriage. What were your, did you always know you wanted to get married young? Or was it something that's just like, you know, you know, the timing felt right?

No, I mean, I didn't really picture myself getting married right out of high school. But I think for him it was different because he, like you were homeschooled and stuff. And so you- What the? What does that got to do with it? You were homeschooled? Yeah, I'm fairly good.

Ask him what grade he stopped doing school. You know, um, freshman year. I kind of dropped out, but... And then his mom, because in the state of Oklahoma, whenever your parents say you're done with school, they give you a diploma. So she still gave him a high school diploma. Are you kidding me? Yeah, the state doesn't, they don't test you or anything if you're homeschooled. It's like one, I think it's like one of two states maybe. But yeah, as soon as your mom like is like, okay, you're done, like you're done. Was that so you could pursue social media and stuff? Yeah, I mean, my mom would try to get me to do school

and I was just doing social media, live streaming, like all that stuff, traveling. And then when you're live streaming, you're like trying to grow a business essentially, right? And then your mom's like, all right, now do math. I was like, I'm okay. And so we just argued a lot. Until I brought my mom to tears almost every day because I didn't want to do school.

I felt really bad for her now, but at the time I was like 14. So I guess I didn't really care as much. I was like a rebel teenager. Were you making money though? Or was it like, I'm going to go live stream to my three followers? Yeah, no, that was the issue is that I was making money and she and she was like Uh, she's like, I know I know that seems stupid now Um, but I was like you always told me to do something so um to find a job and I was like what's school for?

It's to find a job like essentially right and she's like, yeah, I was like Yeah, so it was rough. I brought her tears a lot. So then eventually she just kind of gave up. But it ended up being for the better. Yeah. I mean, it worked out. But because he was like, what were you 14, 15 when you really started making money? Because he was so young and making like just the amount of money he was making, a 15 year old should never have that much. Wait, how much money were you making at 15? It was like, it was, okay, no, no. It was not like, it was more than the average 15 year old. More or less than 100K at 15?

It's probably more. Oh my God! It's so many. That's insane! But awesome. When I was a kid growing up, my dad was like, if you can make more than 100K a year, like that's, that's amazing.

Yeah. You've made it. And so like in my- That's a lot of money. It's a lot of money, a 15 year old, holy cow. Yeah, and it was just all out of my bedroom. So then like my. And so like in my- That's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. A 15 year old, holy cow. Yeah, and it was just all out of my bedroom. So then like my mom would be like trying to like, get me to do school on my mom.

I'm working here and she's like, I know, but like. Please just do your math homework. Okay, so to the 15 year old watching right now who wants to make 100K, what in like in 30 seconds, how did you do that? Pretty much all live stream was the way to do it back then it was in Musically. Do you guys know what Musically is? Oh so Musically is where you made it? Yeah yeah it was just all live streaming there was no brand deals on Musically nothing like that so it was just all live streaming.

You were very consistent with it like he would miss out on his family and friends birthday parties so he could live stream. Yeah my mom was pretty worried about me because like my cousins would invite me over for their birthdays and I was like I can't I gotta live stream. Yeah, my mom was pretty worried about me because my cousins would invite me over for their birthdays and I was like, I can't, I gotta live stream. I gotta live stream. You went and you said. Yeah, my mom was like, you gotta go to your cousin's birthday.

I was like, okay, as long as I can live stream there. So I was like, do you guys mind if I could go into your parents bedroom or whatever for like an hour or two to live stream? And they were like, yeah, that's fine. And people sent you like gifts or something? Is that how you knew? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it was like that

like Twitch streaming type of thing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I've literally never yeah, that's fine. And people sent you like gifts or something? Is that how you made it? Yeah, it was like that like Twitch streaming type of thing. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. I've literally never met somebody that did that. Like I didn't know that was actually a thing. I just thought that was, I don't know. Yeah.

Yeah. But it seems like a lot, but then I moved out to LA when I was like 16. So 100K in LA is not much actually. Yeah. Were you doing like pranks or like, what were you doing to make the live stream entertaining? You haven't seen my oh wow. You should see the musical. Is there not?

Do you guys want to show it on here? Because they can't see it. I guess I don't know I guess I guess you could just tell me verbally. I don't know Yeah, I do like that became tick tock, right?. So we're just kind of staring the camera. That's it. It was just like bite your lip and like, just like, oh, like you did thirst traps. Yeah. You were a 15 year old thirst trapper. Yeah, I was. Were you shirtless doing these? Not very often. It was very rare. Oh, the hot you had. Oh, come on. I'm talking about that. I did. I had a terrible hat. Oh my gosh.

The hat you had. Oh, come on, I'm talking about that kid. He like goes into Hot Topic or something and comes out with this. No, no, no, no, no, Maverick got me the hat. Comes out, we wore it legitimately way too often. I don't know how your parents. I was 15, I didn't know better, all right?

It was like a light pink hat that literally just said daddy across the front of it. Oh my gosh. And he was like, unironically just wear that on the daily and like film TikToks in it. And he was like, unironically just wear that on the daily and like film TikToks in it. And he like, and we look back now and I'm like, how did you get away with that? I know you gave your mother a heart attack.

Your poor mother. And it's not like his mom is crazy. Like his mom is the like most genuine, sweetest, like Southern Christian, just like one of the best for her babies like Values every second she has with her kids and her son's like I need to move to LA you're ruining my life Oh my god, have you do talk to her now? You're like, yeah Oh, yeah, great now, but like from the ages like 14 to 16 kind of rough You know because I wanted to move to LA and she's like 15 years old. You can't move to LA

Yeah, your parents I I can't imagine, you can't move to LA. Yeah. So your parents, I can't imagine, they're seeing, catches thirst traps at 15. They're like, this is who my daughter's marrying. Yeah. Yeah. So, and that was,

yeah, it was, I think, I mean, my parents knew that we would be financially stable. They knew that that's what got us the financial. I mean, anytime money got lost, just give me the hat with the hat on. So, yeah, it was. But it also helped that, I don't know that they would have fully been on board,

but this is a huge part. So he's actually my childhood best friend. I met her when I was like five, is his cousin. So I was like friends with her for years and then I met Cash and my family is like super close with her family. Like my dad and her dad are best friends. So his uncle is like one of my dad's best friends.

So he like bowed, she was like, listen, I know it's strange, but like he's, he'll be okay. Like, yeah. So I mean, I think it's strange, but like he's he'll be okay. He's a good kid. Yeah. So I mean, I think that brought them a lot of peace of mind knowing that he didn't come from some crazy family. Like he was like, he had very smart parents and stuff that like did the best they could raising someone.

When you said cousin, I got worried for a second. I was like, are you saying that? Okay. Is this an Oklahoma thing? Like, no, no, no. It's his parents or siblings, you know, it's fine. Yeah. I know, I kind of get tongue twisted saying it.

That like, because now my best friend is my cousin-in-law and like, it's just a weird. But that did happen in our town a lot. We grew up in a small town. Like it was like 5,000 people. And one of my cousins, when he was in like, I don't know, probably seventh grade, he was dating this girl at school. And then he heard his dad finally figured out who it was. And he was in like, I don't know, probably seventh grade, he was dating this girl out of school,

and then his dad finally figured out who it was, and he was like, oh son, you can't date her. First cousin? No, it was like second or third. No, but everywhere you go in their town, I'm from Dallas, like I've always lived in like a huge city, but everywhere you go in their town, it's like, oh yeah, I know him, he's like my sixth cousin.

Yeah. Like everybody, they're just like somehow. It was probably because the church we grew up in too though. Yeah. The church we grew up in was like very like, oh yeah, I know him. He's like my sixth cousin. Yeah. Everybody. They're just like somehow. It was probably because the church we grew up in too, though. Yeah. The church we grew up in was very like you could only, or not, we didn't grow up. The church my parents grew up in, they ended up leaving it. But you can only date people from that church.

Yeah. So the dating pool's not very big. So it's like every, yeah. That's tough. Yeah. Wait, was it like Amish? No. No.

It's, I mean, it's not like popular at all. It's I mean it's a branch of like Christianity kind of right but yeah it was it was an interesting church like women weren't allowed to cut their hair like yeah you had to date you couldn't date another denomination so yeah but I mean everybody left it now but yeah. Was that isn't there a thing I don't know if it's but yeah was that is isn't there a thing I I don't know if it's the same denomination, but isn't there a thing like yeah women Um, well, yeah I can't wear makeup and then you have like some sort of revelation or something at some point or like What what's it called? I'm so curious. No, I mean, there's not really a name for it. Oh, there's no there's no name for the denomination

I mean not really no, it's just like I mean I had to ask my parents like the specific thing I mean I left when I was like two because I mean they gotcha. Yes. I don't know too much about it, but So there I feel like there's so much to unpack with you guys I'm just learning right now But how did you two ever end up crossing paths cuz you're in Oklahoma. You're in Dallas Yeah, so my best friend lives like 10 minutes away So I was always at her house and since. The one, my uncle. Yeah, and so he would come down to visit his family

because they're cousins, he'd come see his cousins. And I would, anytime I found out he was in town, I was there. I was like. Sweet. And I would, I honestly, my best friend deserves a formal apology for all that I put her through those years because like, I was probably not the best friend. I really just wanted to be with Cash when he was there and I would kind of push her to the side and be like listen I need to be with Cash

right now. Are you still close with her? Oh yeah yeah she's like she was in our wedding and stuff like I'm super close with her. That's awesome so your family is where like really connected. Yes yeah. This episode of the unplanned podcast is brought to you by Huggies. Name something worse than diaper rash. It's hard to think of something. I hate when our kids have diaper rash. It's so sad to see them in that pain

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I was 15 and then like two weeks later I turned 16. So I guess I was pretty much 16. But yeah, because we started dating in June and then we got married two years later in June, so. And did this happen while you were living in LA? Oh, when we got married and dating? Yeah, like when, when did LA happen? Uh, so LA happened, I was like 16, right about to turn 17, and I moved out there. And then I looked out there for like a year and a half, two years, and then I moved back to Dallas because she lived there. How long did we date in Dallas? Probably a little over a year we were dating before we got married when he lived in Dallas. Yeah, so probably like a year and a half later, a year in Dallas and we got married.

But we would have got married way sooner if she didn't have to be 18. What is that? A reasonable ask, but. And your 18th birthday was that right after high school graduation? Yeah, I was, it was, I'm telling you, it was a weird time.

I was like finishing up high school, planning a wedding, and I was in a school out of Houston, so I had to drive four hours from my graduation, and I could have graduated online, but my mom wanted me to walk the stage, so I did that. But yeah, so it was planning a wedding, graduating high school, going to graduation. I had my bridal shower and my little bachelorette party.

It all happened in literally two months. And then I turned 18 and then we got married and then we went on our honeymoon. That's so much, because I'm thinking for anybody, having social media following, that's a job as a business, too, and then you're getting married, you have high school still, you have so much going on. I'm like, that has to be, there'd be a lot of pressure for anybody, but on top of that, you're getting married, you have high school still, you have so much going on, I'm like that has to be,

there'd be a lot of pressure for anybody, but on top of that you're also a teenager. I can't even imagine the pressure. Yeah, but just like we were talking about before, how you were being married aged you, I felt a lot older than I was because I was getting married. It was, I don't know, it was weird.

I was 17 and I was still a teenager, I still am a teenager and I literally feel like I'm 30. Like. It does require a maturity of you. Yeah. Like, that does, like, I guess aging, like, sounds bad. But it just makes you more mature. No, mentally ages.

Yes. Yeah. Mentally ages. But, yeah, so it was like, I was in high school, but I didn't feel like I should be. Right. I felt like I should have been way past that. With all the backlash you got online and dealing with hate and everything, especially in high school and with people that were even your peers,

did you ever go to counseling? Did you ever do anything like that to help cope? No, I read my Bible. When you say, how did you cope? That was my coping mechanism. I really turned to the Bible and was like Because that was another thing was I was posting content and I was also posting a mix of like Christian content So I was being kind of I was a 16 year old being very controversial

And so I was like, okay Well, like I'm being controversial people don't like me because I'm dating cash people don't like me because I'm Christian and I'm saying this Stuff like but I don't know I just turned to the Bible Have you ever dealt with anything along that sort of like your peers making fun of you or teasing you online? I mean, I would guess so, but I was home schooled, apparently. So, um, yeah, classmates are making fun of you. Yeah,

the teacher bullied me a lot. Classmates are your brother and he's making a whole lot of fun. You like your homeschool, like, right. Aren't there co-ops like my cousin was homeschooled. Yeah, co-op So we didn't think like that But I mean it was just a small town like country kids and so I mean it was like nobody even like had phones I mean we were like 13 14 so yeah Did you go up on a farm like where you were your parents like?

I mean kind of a farm like we had like chickens and goats. It's a farm They have a bunch of land and a creek that they got to play in and whew. Yeah, it was a farm, I guess. Okay. But no, I guess to answer the question, I didn't really like, I mean, get bullied or anything. I mean, online stuff, but I mean,

that's like every social media platform for many people, right? Yeah. But I mean, I just don't really, like the comments and stuff like that just never really got to me or anything like that. I mean, it did to her a lot in the beginning. But yeah, I mean, I don't know why, just like never really got to me or anything like that. I mean it did hurt a lot in the beginning. But yeah, I mean, I don't know why I just never really like really cared about it.

He's never cared what anyone's thought about him like at all. So like that was one thing is when I was like getting upset about the hate I was getting he was like just don't care. I was like, I'll try that next time. Is it really that easy? I'll try that next time. That's his superpower, isn't it? It's crazy and then like even still, sometimes I'm like, should we do that? Like that's kind of an odd thing to do. I don't want people to

think we're weird. And he's like, I don't care. That's Abby. Abby does not care what people think about her. I envy that so much. Like that truly is a superpower. It is. It's kind of crazy. Makes you unstoppable. You can do anything. I know. You could, I don't know what else to say, but you could do some weird stuff and be like, yeah, I still like myself. I still like her. Abby does some weird stuff and it's hilarious. What do you mean? Maybe it's because you're actually funny, like if I was funnier, like maybe I could

be a little bit weirder, but then it's just like, it's not funny. When I try to be funny, not funny not funny when I try to be funny not funny Right, you try to be funny I think it's cute That's everything you need to know right there No, so I you guys made like i'm making videos from a very young age and making videos together are there I know for us I can say there's videos that are on the internet of us Are there I know for us I can say there's videos that are on the internet of us

That I'm like I wish that didn't get uploaded like are there are the specific videos ever think of like oh I? Let's pretend that never happened. Yeah You gotta go deep and find that one Yeah, you search cash picker musical. Yeah, you'll get a mom. Oh my god, but I mean, yeah I mean, I don't really care about uploading them I mean, I think they're funny now still like like she said, I mean, I really care if you'll get them mom. Oh my god. But I mean yeah I mean I don't really care about uploading them I mean I think they're funny now still like like she said I mean I don't really care if you'll think so it's like I mean I think it's funny now but I think I have like videos that I don't really regret. I bet if I scroll far enough I'll find some uh there's probably some on our couples channel that are a bit far that I'm just like ah honestly in the moment we'll be

filming something and I'm like I ah, I don't want to. And he's like, well, we have to. And I'm like, okay. That's kind of the thing that, like his. Not like that, I'm not like, you will film this. Oh, so you're forcing your wife to make videos with you. Yeah, apparently. Okay, do you need help?

No, it's just because she always says like, well, people are gonna think I'm just, I get so annoyed at that phrase. I did see a video of you like wearing a dress or something like on your podcast. Oh, yeah, probably Oh my gosh that one. I was like we can't post it Did you guys like swap clothes for the day or like what was the whole um, I was trying a new outfit. Um but I mean going for a new style. Yeah, it didn't work. So I didn't stick with it, but no i'm kidding. Um

No, I don't remember what that episode was. It was, I think it was swapping clothes for a day, but I don't think anybody else swapped clothes. I think it was just me. Yeah. He like, I don't know, our podcast, cause you know, we have like a younger audience and stuff. We try to be entertaining and I guess that's his way of entertaining.

Um, me personally, I would never entertain like that. Yeah, I mean, he definitely holds it down over there pretty well when he can do stuff like that and come up with stuff on the spot to keep people entertained. Did your, oh sorry. Did your mother go with you to LA when you moved out at 16? My brother did. I mean, he was 18, 19. So he did and then they moved out there for, or they lived with us for like the first three

months. Yeah. Your they lived with us for like the first three months. Yeah. Your parents lived with you guys? Well, they still had their place and everything, but they just like would come out there for like a month or two at a time. Make sure everything's okay. Yeah. And then I guess I made them feel pretty unwelcome because I was like 17.

I was like, I want to be on my own. So then they were just finally like, I will leave. I feel bad about it now, but I mean, as a 17 year old, you could imagine. Yeah, so when you asked about like, him getting married young and stuff, like he didn't feel, like he was making money at 15, and then he was able to move out when he was 16 by himself. He's living across the country,

so like him getting married when he was 19 was like nothing. He was like, I mean, yeah, I'm ready to get married. I've already had my fun. So making videos and also being married, I know for us it's been, we're kind of in the same boat. It comes with its challenges, but have you found it challenging anything specifically difficult, navigating marriage

while also being in the public eye? No, honestly, I feel like it's made our marriage so much better just being able to be together the way we are. Every day we wake up and we're like, this is such a much better just being able to be together the way we are. Every day we wake up and we're like, this is such a blessing. We just get to be together all day, work together. Yeah, I feel so bad when people ask me questions like that

because I don't really have any good answers because people are always like, how do you guys navigate work and marriage and being together all the time? And I don't know, we just never had any issues with any of that stuff. Yeah, I mean. Same, yeah, we never. Yeah. He's lying, actually. Never had any issues with that of that stuff. Yeah, same. Yeah, we'd never. Yeah. He's lying, actually.

Never had any issues with that. Oh. You know, I'm sure. Well, I can't tell if y'all are lying or not. I'm lying, dude. I'm lying. I'm lying. Like, what's the secret, man?

How are you guys, so it's like legit, made your marriage better? Like, it's made. It's like, what do you mean? You get to be together all day. I'm like, I'm just a little shook right now. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe we haven't been married long enough. I don't know, but I mean. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe, I mean, maybe we haven't been married long enough.

I don't know, but I mean, yeah. I mean, we just never had any like big issues in marriage or anything yet, but I mean. Maybe they'll come. I mean, we're still young. Like, I'm sure they'll come. Yeah, I mean, if you ask me 10 years from now, I'll probably say something else.

But I mean, I would say, are you saying like specifically like with work, life, type of thing? Yeah. I mean, yeah, we just have like our specific jobs. Like I do just most like the work stuff. And then I try to give her like just have our specific jobs. I do just most of the work stuff, and then I try to give her only what's needed, and then she just does all our day-to-day stuff

and house stuff and all stuff like that. So it's just kinda like we each have our separate things. It's together, but it feels separate kinda too. And then it's just always, you know, put in the other one first, so it's like, if she needs me to do something, even if it's annoying to me, it's like, yeah, I'm just gonna do it,

not complain about it, stuff like that. I mean, vice versa, she does the same. Yeah, that's really awesome. I'm happy for you guys. It seems like you've each taken on your own role, but then also done it in a way that compliments each other's abilities. I think that honestly took us a while

to navigate what that looked like. Because I think we had different expectations for each other that were constantly not being met every day. And then we're like, okay, well, now I'm getting a little bitter. And then now we just had a conversation figured out. But-

I think it was pretty easy because, I mean, I lived on my own stuff for a couple of years anyway and she was still at her parents. So I feel like when you get married and at least one of the people is coming from like their parents' house, like it doesn't feel like your two get married and somebody at least one of the people is coming from like their parents house Like it doesn't feel like your two lives are combining as much because like that's generally when people would move out anyway It's a college and other stuff But I feel like if people are already been living on their own for like five years or whatever and then they try to combine their

Lives I feel it's a little harder probably because like yeah, you're used to taking your shoes off in your own house And the other ones not like stuff like that. Yeah Versus I mean the other way it's just kind of like, like she's like, we're so young. It's like, we're open to the idea of like, oh yeah, we're changing now. But I feel like the older you get, you're probably less likely to want to change. I agree. Yeah. You kind of are like, this is how I do it.

Why are you trying to tell me anything different? Whereas like when we were like still in college, we're like, we don't really know how we operate. Did you ever like high school, though? You never even took pre-calc or algebra. You just literally. Ever since the second grade, I don't think I've taken a test ever, besides my driving test and something like that.

Yeah, but that doesn't count. Yeah, ever since the second grade, that was when I went home school. And my mom, she'd give me little quizzes and stuff. But it wasn't like, she's going give me like an a or b or c It was just like we sit down and do the work together and like that's it and then freshman year Yeah, I just kind of stopped doing school dropped out Yeah, so I guess in other states there they're checking up on parents to make sure that their kids actually finish school

Yeah, but you guys just didn't have to do that being in Oklahoma Yeah, it was like a big thing in Oklahoma like everybody like tries to like fight to like keep that right I guess I don't I don't know what it is But like to like educate your kid on like what you want to educate him on yeah versus like what the state wants to But I don't know like do you do you know anything about history? Like do you ever see stuff in news? You're like, I don't even like what's World War two like what? There's a comedian Nate Bargatzee He made a joke about how he was watching the movie Pearl Harbor

And he said he was just as shocked as everyone in the movie When the Japanese came in and started bombing Pearl Harbor like have you had anything happen like that? I guess once you're like stop mandatory like once it's not mandatory anymore I feel like you just do it voluntarily like I'll be on YouTube or whatever Like you just learn that way like growing up like still I mean this day like all the only content I really watch is like either like stuff related to like work stuff or it's content of just random things like How World War two it's just like stuff like that Him he will yeah, you just naturally learn after that.

And yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I just... There's probably some things you could ask him about that he'd have no clue. My personal thing, I think after eighth grade you're good. I think high school's kind of useless. Okay, what are the three branches, like the three core branches of government? Oh. Oh gosh, I graduated and I don't know if I can tell you that.

What are they called? Abby, do you got this? Judiciary? Legislative? Prejudice? Prejudice? It's executive, judicial, and legislative. That's like the president, Congress, and House. Don't ask me too many details about the branches, but anyway, that's so funny.

Do you read books? No. Okay. Only the Bible, that's it funny. Do you read books? No. Okay. Only the Bible. That's it. Yeah. It's very slow too. When I get to flip the page, it's pretty exciting. It takes a long time. It does. That's so funny. Thank you to DoorDash for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. I'm starving. I am also starving. I was literally just thinking about DoorDashing some Mediterranean after this. No, I wasn't DoorDashing. Really? Salad and go. That's the

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See these are those questions again that I don't know if we have good answers. Well I can answer this one because it- so the boys, him and his brother have like lived together since they moved out to LA and he actually still lives with us now, but. Oh, it's just three of you guys. Oh, it's four of us because the cousin lives with us too. Oh, that's fun. Who's this cousin? The one that we work with.

Ah, okay. He just works for us and he's just kind of like our assistant and stuff, so. That's fun. Yeah, anyways, so when the boys had moved from LA to Dallas, I was over at the apartment every day and it kind of slowly started happening there. We'd be there and I don't know, I would just, if I'm there all day, I'm a very clean person. I don't like any filth anywhere, so it's like if I was there all day, I wanted it to be clean so I would just constantly clean.

It was like he'd be working and I was like, oh, I can do your laundry. I can do that for you. So it kind of started like before we were even engaged and then when we got engaged and got married it just kind of all came together I don't know we never like had the conversation of like what jobs do we each want to have in our marriage and like stuff like that it just kind of happened but yeah I will say I mean yeah she's been a huge help like I don't think I I realized the other day when I went, she was gone out of town.

I went to go, I think it was used to laundry and I didn't know how to work it. I'd never, I never did it in my life. Well you had, when he lived, it's the same machine. Or not my life, I mean, since we got married, like since we have that. He had used it before, but he just hadn't used it in so long, he like forgot.

That's funny. Yeah, but I don't know, I don't expect him to. He works a lot, so I wanna help him when he tries to make me work as little as I can, so I try to do everything else that he's not interested in. That's really cool. Do you guys plan on having kids at some point? Oh yeah.

Yeah, we really do want kids. We don't really know when though. Yeah, we say, well sometimes there's some days we're like, let's just do it now. Let's have a kid now. Like we'll be fine. But then sometimes we're like, how would we function with the kid right now? Like, yeah. So I don't know. The other day we said we'll wait like two years maybe, but we might change our mind next week. You guys had a lot of time. I know. And we did too, honestly. Like we waited two years till we started trying

and then we had our first, our like, and the third year of marriage, so. Aw. Did you guys plan, like? Yeah, but like all of our friends told us, oh, it'll take like six months to a year to get pregnant. Like once you start trying and like we got, we got pregnant right away.

They said like three to five months or I don't know. So you just don't know like everyone's situation is different. Yeah, everyone's different. You never know. So we did get pregnant right away. And then we got kind of pregnant by surprise with our second one, shortly after having our first.

So yeah. Did you guys wait till marriage? Yeah. How was that? I didn't think we got married so quick. I know, I know. I'm like, I kind of assumed, I kind of assumed,? I think we got married so quick. I know. I kind of assumed, but I'm like that's hard. That's really hard to do. Yeah. I don't know. That's

not the reason we got married young. We just knew we didn't want to. We weren't going to play house together. That's the thing is I was never going to like actually fully move in with him and we weren't going to do all. That's the thing is I was never gonna like actually fully move in with him and we weren't gonna do all that stuff until we actually were married. And when we had decided we were ready to be married, we were like, well, we're not gonna wait five years because that's what society wants us to do.

We're gonna get married when we're ready to get married. Yeah, I don't really see the point in getting married if you're already living together, doing everything together. I mean, nothing really changes if you are married or not married. I mean, yes, I mean, I don't really see the point. Like if you've already been living together for five years and doing life together for five years like Marriage isn't really like an extra step. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're already doing everything. Yeah

What was the wedding like? It was beautiful It was everything I wanted in a wedding. We got married except for the weather. Oh my goodness I forgot about that. It was in Oklahoma in the middle of June and we were in kind of like a forest looking place. I don't know. It was pretty big wedding, we had almost 200 people. But yeah, all of our family and friends were able

to make it so we were really happy. That's sweet. Yeah. Were you nervous for the wedding day? No, people ask me that and I'm like, I feel like my brother was more than me. The wedding day he was like, are you nervous for the wedding day? No people ask me that and I'm like my brother was more than me the wedding day He was like are you ready, bro? I was like yes I never was more worried because he was like giving his brother away because they have been like attached at the home That's right. Yeah and living together too. He's like I he's like who am I gonna live with?

Yeah, no he still lives with us now. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, he's probably gonna be getting married soon now. And I think we're still all gonna live together. I don't really know. He's... Well, yeah, well, his wife might have other plans, though. Who knows? He hasn't come to terms with that yet.

Once one of us has a kid, then we'll definitely separate. But even then, we'll probably get land and build our houses like on the same property That's how close you guys are. Yeah, I Don't think that they would survive if they weren't as close as they were there's no way with that Feel about it. Um, I mean honestly, I think I think it is great and I love I love Maverick He's like my I mean, I feel like he's my like actual brother now Like we're very close and like we're very we all have a very open relationship in the house and like are very close with each Other like that not

So an open relationship Open meaning like well all we can all have like serious conversations with each other, but also be very unserious and like, Maverick and I will fight and we'll be fine. Like it's like, yeah. Is that weird for you when it's like your wife and your brother fighting? How sad do you take? You guys never been in an actual serious fight. It's always like, you're so annoying, you have to take your shoes off.

Like it's never like been like, name one fight It's always like, you're so annoying, you have to take your shoes off. It's never been like, name one fight that's been like that. Dude, the shoes off thing drives me insane. Everyone in our house wears their shoes all around the house. We just got our carpets professionally cleaned literally two weeks ago. Abby wears her shoes on the carpet every day.

I'm always like, babe, I've told you this about 17 times. Could you please take your shoes off? He's so patient with me. But here's my thing is that like if I need something upstairs and I have the kids all loaded up and my shoes, I'm like, am I really going to untie my shoes and put them back on? Yeah, that's where I'm at. That's what Maverick always says. He's like, Kate, I understand the no shoe rule, but if I have my shoes on and I realize I need something, I'm going to go get it. And I'm like, just don't. But then my feet turned black in the house. I looked down at my feet and they're covered in dirt and all this stuff from the floors. That's going to happen anyway. And I know for a fact, and then Abby's like, well, it's just, that's how our floors are

all the time. I'm like, no, they're not. Like when we mop our floors, my feet don't just get dirty all of a sudden from walking around. So I've actually thought of potentially getting a little like Nerf gun and then like shooting people with darts if they wear their shoes.

And then I've made her and then they can shoot me with the Nerf gun if I'm like. You leave your shoes out. If I leave my shoes out, cause that's the thing that I do. So I'll like, I'll leave my shoes out. He'll have like five pairs out on the main floor at any given time.

Yeah, just like by every door. So like anytime I need to leave the house, I'm like, I'm ready to go. I'm not going barefoot outside. Wait, I'm so curious though. So if they get in a fight, then whose side are you taking? Well, like I said, it's never a serious fight. When your brother attacked me the other day,

that was a pretty serious fight. Attacked me? He did not attack you. What do you mean? He threw, y'all ever heard of Whirly Ball? No. Probably not. Oh, okay.

That's the most serious fight they've ever been. I was living. Whirly not. Oh, okay. That's the most serious part they've ever been. I was living. Whirly Ball is like a game. It's only in Dallas and I think one other city. And you're in like a go-kart, bumper-kart type of thing. It's like bumper cars. But they go kind of fast. And then you're playing with lacrosse sticks with a wiffle ball playing basketball.

So you're in a go-kart with a lacrosse stick playing basketball with a wiffle ball. That is kind of cool. I really want to try that. It's really fun. And anyways, you're not allowed to throw your lacrosse stick and Kate's about to score the basketball part and Maverick chunks his lacrosse stick at her and he tries to hit her racket but he hits the back of her head. And she kind of lost it on him. Because everyone knows when I play games,

I don't want to be, I don't like the mean talk. I don't like when people trash talk me in games. It's not fun for me. Be nice to me. And I don't like when people are physical with me. I don't like it. And so everyone knows that. It's just a known fact that

everybody knows about me and I had already told him I was like stop hitting us with your racket Max he was trying to like wave it and stuff and it kept hitting us and I was getting hurt me and his sister were upset and then he chunks a racket and hits me in the head and hurts so I got mad and I yelled at him I was like I told you to stop. That was the most serious fight and even like all of us are laughing and we all think it's funny. And y'all were over in like one minute, we should stop. That was the most serious fight. And even then, all of us are laughing still. We all think it's funny. And y'all were over in one minute. You never made it.

Yeah, but no. I mean, I get aggravated just with not taking his shoes off and when I just feel like the house isn't clean and stuff is everywhere. But yeah, I guess it's not really serious stuff. It's just kind of like, well, that's inconvenient. Just living with other people type of thing. But overall, it really is good like we do have a really

good relationship and we get along very well like 98% of the time and now he's got a girl that he's gonna get married to and she's great so I'll have like a friend that's really cool but yeah do you get along with your brother pretty well me yeah oh yeah I mean yeah I mean we obviously, you know, fist fights and stuff now and then. Actually? Like have you ever punched him in the face before? Oh yeah. Seriously?

Yeah, like really bad. Like, I mean, just one fight that comes to mind is, I mean, we were probably like 18, 19, and we were upstairs at a house and he wanted me to go downstairs to grab him something because both of his feet were broke. And I was like, and I was like, your feet aren't really broke dude. And I see him walk around all day long with his cast on and I'm like, dude you can walk

downstairs, fine, you can go get it. And we ended up like escalating the fight and he like shoves me out of my chair and then I grabbed like this nerf gun that was laying around and like slam it into him and then that's when, you know like when you push your sibling or something and then you realize you did it too hard and then you got to run yeah so I hit him with that I was like oh no so then I start running and I run down the stairs and then all of a sudden he can walk down the stairs he jumps down the whole staircase with both of his feet takes me in the back oh with two broken feet um

did he really break the feet again? No, they were fine Which is what the argument was about the whole time. I was like see I was imagining him with like two casts like on his no It was like it was like more like the boots like the Velcro boot type of things But they were both broken, but he was like towards the end of the healing process Okay, you're fine. You're like the doctor if the doctor heard that story, he would not be about that. Yeah, no, probably not. But actually our doctor would, our doctor growing up, like I said, we were in a small

town. Like when his brother broke both of his feet, he was like, listen, you could pay to get a cast on him, but if you just put on your hunting boots and keep those on, those will do the job. And so he didn't, cause he couldn't, his brother didn't want to pay for the cast. He was like, oh, I can't afford that. So I'll just wear my hunting boots. So he just wore his hunting boots until his feet healed.

Did this guy, did he take insurance? Like what? Yeah, he did. He did? No, he was legit. Kind of. Well, what did his musically look like? That's funny.

You're from a small town. So did this, is this guy, did he deliver you? Was he, is he? Deliver? Cause like Abby, Abby's from a small town too, not nearly as small, but I'm pretty sure the same doctor that delivered Abby was also like- He's like a family doctor too, like-

Yeah, they kind of do it all. Oh, you're going to love this then. Yeah, so my mom did an at home birth. Oh yeah, oh really? Okay. So there was no doctor. Yeah. Oh, okay.

And then it was just literally literally family and then they have, what are those called? Like a- Birthing pool? No, like the nurse that comes over. Oh, the midwife. The midwife. There was a midwife that came over and that's it.

But I mean, she's not really like a doctor. She just like knows how to deliver a baby kind of. But there's like home videos of his birth and it's like- It's just in my parents' bedroom. Wow. And like, were there people like, was everyone watching? Yeah, I think so. It's just in my parents' bedroom. Wow. And like, were there people, like, was everyone watching? Yeah, I think so. Everyone's just like watching,

the whole family's just gathered around in their bedroom watching cash be delivered. Wow. Yeah, so it was literally just family and the midwife. That's kinda cool, actually. That's it. Do you feel pressured to do a home birth because that's how your husband was born?

I don't feel pressured, honestly. I've like, we've talked a lot about what we wanna do, and I think when I get pregnant, I mean, if if everything goes well and like I have a healthy pregnancy and like the doctors say like it's safe to do it at Home with the midwife. I probably would but also where we live is only like four minutes from It's away from a hospital if anything were to go wrong So I don't know it just would depend on the pregnancy and like if everything went really well and stuff But I mean, I'm not against it at all like My mom did do the first my first two siblings at a hospital though. Okay. Yeah, it was just me.

How many siblings do you have? Two. I was gonna make a number up but yeah two. Oh. Yeah, he has his older sister. Okay, older sister. And are y'all close with her too? Yeah, I am. I go like I like I love her. They just moved to Atlanta so I'm really sad but. Yeah, not like me and my brother. Yeah, they're like a different level, like still living together close. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. Yeah, I never met anybody as close as me and Matt besides twins maybe.

Like, some twins we know still live together a lot. I honestly thought that you were twins. Yeah. I just assumed that. Yeah, your relationship is similar lot. I honestly thought that you were twins. Yeah It's got yeah your relationship is similar to that of how to yeah, right? Yeah Thank you to factor for sponsoring this portion of today's episode warmer and sunnier days are on the horizon and you can take Actually already hit it's been like over it is actually It's pretty toasty but it's time to take advantage of Factor No Prep No Mess meals. I don't know if you guys have tried the sun-dried tomato chicken from Factor, but that is by far my favorite Factor meal. It is amazing. Have you had that

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That's her. You tell that story. Gosh, I was probably 13 and he was 14. It was before we had started dating, but we had... It was, like I said, I was not a good friend to my friend when he was in town. And so I was at her house and me and my two other friends are like laying in her bed like about to fall asleep and Cash comes downstairs and he sits in like the chair

in the corner of her room and he's just talking to us. And then he like slowly like makes his way over to the side of the bed but there's three people in the bed so there's no room for him and which we were 13. There was no need for him in the bed but he like, it's just like all his. I was supposed to be down there. Yeah he was not supposed to be in the room. The parents were, it's just like on his- I wasn't supposed to be down there. Yeah, he was not supposed to be in the room.

The parents were like asleep. Supposed to be boys upstairs, girls downstairs. Yeah, and so he like had snuck downstairs and we're all talking and my friends, they both start to kind of fall asleep. And yeah, he just like started, we just started hugging. And he's like on his knees, like on the side of the bed, like leaned over hugging me.

And he just sat like that all night until. That's really sweet. Yeah, I was trying to get a kiss, never got one. So. Well I had a boyfriend at the time. Oh. Yeah, which was, I wouldn't say that if I was you. That makes you look bad.

I was 13. Yeah. Is anybody's 13 year old relationship that serious? Yeah, but yeah, if you guys ever have like co-ed sleepovers with your kids guys upstairs, girls downstairs does not work. No We could have a security camera go. So it's like in it like the text movement, you know, maybe that's what we could do I never had co-ed sleepovers. Did you? Nah, kind of. Some people don't let their kids do sleepovers at all now.

Yeah, well I never ever had the only time that ever happened was when I went to my uncle's house down in Texas and he allowed co-ed sleepovers. Yeah. And that was it. Well he like genuinely like wholeheartedly the poor guy. He like wholeheartedly believed that. If he said right before he went to bed, hey you boys stay upstairs and you girls stay downstairs,

like we weren't. He thought the stairs like disappeared or something in the middle of the night. Yeah. Like we weren't gonna go downstairs. I don't know, that was the only time we ever did it. And it was only because my friend had brothers, so then they would have friends over too. We have two boys, so I don't know,

maybe if we had daughters. Yeah, if you had girls. Which is actually the reason why most parents, I think, have made the decision not to allow sleepovers. It's because of like their friends siblings. Like if you had like a daughter that had an older brother or anything or like would have other guys at the house too because of that.

I can see that reasoning. Yeah, my parents never allowed them, like if my sister was having friends over, we weren't allowed to have friends over. But also they didn't really care about siblings wise because our sister was older than all of us. So it's like normally much older girls don't go for much younger guys.

So it's like it was never an issue at our house. But yeah, if we had like friends over, my sister wasn't allowed to. Yeah. There can be a double sleepover situation. No, I liked her friends though. They were way too old for me. Yeah, his sister was a model or she is a model.

So she would have all her model friends over and he would I was like 12 years old. I was like This is amazing All these models are staying the night at his house Dude, you probably, okay, like we, when I was in high school one of our friends had an older sister and people would like Best thing No, but he would get like made fun of like be like Oh yeah

Oh, did your sister so hot like did your friends do that to you? Uh, yeah, but pretty much all my best friends also had an older sister and i was like yours is too you can throw it right that's so funny i've got a juicy question for you guys so pranks pranks online are the like any of those are any of those stage like how how does this how does this work you mean like tell me the tea there's like youtube pranks or like some tiktok pranks man both both yeah i mean a lot of them i'd say 50 50 some some are straight up fake but those ones are aren't really normally as much pranks those are more just like funny videos like pranks a lot of times i would say the majority of the time we try to do them real and maybe it doesn't turn out so then we do it again or something like

that. But I mean sometimes we do just kind of overplay it more. But I mean, I would say it's like, I mean we don't really do that many pranks I feel like on YouTube and stuff. Yeah, if you're our audience, click off now. Actually no, I don't want to tell us retention to drop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep watching till the end. I'll expose it then. But yeah, I mean, I would say it's like, I don't know, 50-50. I can't really think of any pranks we've done.

I don't know. I mean. That's what I was trying to think of one. I know. I'm trying to think about pranks we've done and I like don't think. Back in the day, like they were real on our YouTube vlogs. Like my brother, like for instance, one time he got the identical car key that I had he ordered one And I thought it was my car key. So he brought it outside tied it to healing balloons and called me outside and he let it go

But I didn't get mad I I was just like, oh no. But then finally after like a couple hours, they were like, no, we got your car key. You guys used to make a lot of music together, right? Like, is that something that you're no longer doing? Are you kind of done making music? No, we need to. We're gonna drop more stuff soon.

Oh, you are, okay. Yeah, in the last like two or three years, we've only dropped one song, which was the song I dropped when I proposed to her. I proposed to her in a music video, but that was the last one. But yeah, we're dropping more soon now. Were you totally shocked when he proposed to you

during the music video shoot? Yeah, so I was really confused actually, because we had been talking about getting engaged and stuff, so I didn't really know what to expect. And this one day he had lied so hard to me and I fully believed it. He was like, oh, I'm working on a shoot with our friend, he's a videographer, he's like, I'm helping him out today,

but you can't come, it's a really strict set, they don't want extra people there if they don't have to be. And I was like, okay. So he's gone all day. And then they were like, oh, but we do need you for the last scene so Show up then so they show I like showed up and I wasn't under the impression that I was getting kidnapped That's like what my like no like that's what they told me was gonna happen

We told her it was like a short film about a girl getting kidnapped or something. Why did you tell her that? Because when when she showed up, I had to blindfold her. Yeah, so I was like we need you like blindfolded So it looks like you're getting kidnapped. Okay Okay, you're getting kidnapped but like I'm actually gonna yeah So we blindfolded her and then she that makes it and I was like But we want to try to do a real and then like if it doesn't turn out Then we'll reshoot it and she's like, okay So they like blindfolded her and then brought her up like to like the top like the balcony where we were Yeah, but yeah blindfolded her and then brought her up to the top of the balcony where we were.

So when I walked out there, I took my blindfold off. I was scared actually for my life because I was blindfolded and they walk me. Maverick comes out and gets me, which I don't know why it was okay for Mav to be there and not me. I didn't process that. But he comes out and he gets me and he walks me up five flights of stairs and I was like, Mav, like where am I going? Just tell me where I'm going. And he was like, you're fine, Kate, you're fine. And then I like felt the wind because we were so high up in like the middle of Dallas. I felt like the wind hit me. We were two stories high. It felt so high. No, I walked forever. I'm telling you guys, it was the longest walk of my life. And so then like I felt all the wind and I was like, we're on a rooftop. And I like like genuinely was like what if they push me off like that was like what was terrifying I was like what is happening and then I like took

my blindfold off they're like take your blindfold off and so I took it off and I like realized what was happening and I was like like the full expression in the video is like completely real and I like I turned in the city and I turned my head and all of our family was there and all of our friends. And I was like, where did y'all come from? I thought this was a close set. Yeah. So I was like, I asked them, I was like, is this real? And then I didn't even say yes, actually.

I was just like, and then they had to reshoot me saying yes, because I didn't actually say yes. But we shot the music video backwards. We shot that and then we shot the rest of the music video because then you can know about it. Oh, okay. Did you guys kiss when you proposed? Yeah, that was the first, or not the first time. We kissed and then we stopped kissing for the rest of our, while we were dating. And then we kissed when we proposed and then we kissed when we got married. Oh wow, so you guys didn't even kiss while you were dating? We haven't kissed since. Yeah, no, we didn't kiss while we were dating. And when you were engaged. We first started and then we quit.

Yeah, for the first couple months we did. How did you not kiss? Did you just always date each other with people around and stuff? Did you ever do dates just on your own? No, we did. I think that was the issue, since she was always over at our place.

We try not to be in a room room alone really like like in like a bedroom alone But I mean we still were sometimes but the main thing was like kissing cuz we're like if we don't kiss It's kind of hard to like lead that much into other things and stuff So yeah, that was just kind of like we're like if we just cut it there like and we're good Yeah, and it worked like After that we didn't really have any issues. That's some good discipline. Yeah. That is, no seriously, that's pretty freaking hard.

It was like, at first it was kinda weird. It was like, wow, we're not kissing, but then eventually it just became like normal. And it was like. Yeah, but we still kiss each other on the cheek. So even then when we got married, for the first like. Even now actually, we still like.

We still kiss each other on the cheek way more because we're just used to that now. Really? That's sweet. I don't know why, it's just like we always do those cheek kisses instead because I'm so used to it. That's funny. Yeah.

Actually Matt, you do notice that you do this, sometimes you can't decide where you're gonna kiss. No, it's like- It's the same thing with the handshake thing. Like I, it's like I can't pretty make up my mind. He's like, do I wanna kiss her forehead? Do I wanna kiss her nose or do I kiss her lips? And then he's just like- Decision paralysis. Dec my mind. He's like, do I want to kiss her forehead? Do I want to kiss her nose? Or do I kiss her lips? And then he's just like...

Decision paralysis. That's why, like, me and the restaurant, like, Abby can make a decision in.5 seconds. I look at the menu, I'm like, yeah, that sounds good. I'm like, babe, like, decide what we're ordering. Like, it's just like easy for me because I don't want to sit there and think about all the different options.

Yeah. That's funny. That's what she is. Like, she'll be, she'll say something, and I'm like, I mean, just you decide. I don't really care. She's like, no. No, you decide, I can't. I'm like, okay. It stresses me out.

I always make the wrong decision. Yes. I'm like, what the frick was I think? Like it's, and it's always once I've made the decision, there's no going back. I can tell you, yes. You know? Hundreds of times we've been out at dinner together

and Matt will just start going quiet once the food comes. And I'm like, are you disappointed with your food choice? And he's like, I made the wrong decision. He's like, I should, I ordered the wrong thing. And I'm like, she kind of does that, but she always just goes, yours looks better. Yeah, that's fantastic. It does. Okay. Wait, so you guys like kissed initially and then you're like, wait a second, we want to like save that. And so then you didn't kiss your whole entire dating time. Engagement. Yeah. For two years. But then you kissed on the day of the engagement. It was like a year and a half. Okay. Because it was like six months into

dating is when we were like we probably shouldn't kiss anymore and then. Yeah we kissed, well we started dating then we cut it off, kissed at the engagement, then it kissed until the wedding and then we haven't kissed since. Yeah. Never. Never. Not even on the honeymoon. No wonder you guys don't have any kids. No. No, no. Yeah. Wait, y'all, I, wait, your dogs are actually out? You don't put socks on? I need to. What the? I was sitting cross-legged but my knees got so, they were hurting. People are going to screenshot your feet on this episode. Don't do that. She could never do that. I do that on our podcast sometimes, but she hates if somebody sees her toes. But I mean, they're really long.

Like her toes are like fingers. They're kind of crazy. So yeah, I've been told that I've got them feet before. You don't wear sandals ever? Well, it's in my house. I can't wear shoes in my house. Oh, in your house. Yeah, no, we measured it.

Shut up, that is not true. The toe, whatever the toe by your big toe is called, it's as long as her pinky. It's not. It's literally a lie. That was cool, it's cool. I'm not hating, it's cool. But.

He's lying. Was it like, were you nervous to kiss on the wedding day? Like were you worried that it might look awkward? Cause you guys had it really. Like we might glitch. Yeah. Like I saw, okay. Like and I.

We both go, we both go right and left. Sure, I'm sure this wasn't you guys we both go right and left. I'm sure this was for you guys. I saw this viral clip of some couple that saved their kiss for the wedding day. But then like the dude just like went at it like tongue and everything. And it was on TV. Yeah. You like you watch it and you're like, oh gosh. So like, I'm curious. How did you, how did you, what did you guys do?

You can kind of see that in the proposal video. Oh gosh. Everybody in the comments is like, you can tell they don't kiss much. It was like a make out session for me. It was, well, because we kissed when he had like proposed and then like a couple of minutes later, the videographer was like, okay,

can we get a scene of you guys kissing for like another shot? And we were like, yeah. And watching it back, I was like- I just can't believe I did that in front of her dad. I was like, dang, this is tough. It was intense. I think my brother actually said he was like, yeah, dad turned around.

I was like- I didn't realize it was that bad, but now watching it back, I'm like, oh my gosh. Yeah, every time I watch that video back, I'm like, ooh, wow, that was a lot. That's Abby. Matt, you're like, well, we were kind of waiting, so. How did you guys propose?

How did you propose? I proposed in Disney World, and Abby like cried afterward, because she was like so- We had no family there. Yeah, no family was there. I was like pretty surprised. Matt was like, I think you knew. I was like, dude, there was nobody.

I knew I was the only one in that state from our family. So did you have like a picture, like anything? Yeah, we gave it to a random like dad. Oh really? This random dude took an iPhone video of our hotel. And then. It's so sweet though, because he's like, oh, oh. He realizes like this is like a big moment.

Dude, that's a lot of trust in an older person. Like if you asked my mom that, she'd be videoing herself on accident. We did not do social media or anything. So it was just like. Oh, okay, yeah. I just kind of sent it, yeah. Yeah, if we weren't doing social media at all, I mean, it probably would have been way different.

But I forgot to kiss Abby. Like we literally just hugged. We did not kiss. We just hugged. Really? We were so nervous. Like there was, Matt was trembling. Like. I was shaking.

I was so nervous. I couldn't figure out what was quite wrong. Well, I mean, it's kind of the biggest decision of your freaking life. No, I understand. But we had talked about getting married so much that I didn't think that at that moment you would feel so much pressure.

But anyway, he was like trembling. And then afterwards, the trolley at Disney was honking the horn. There were so many people looking at us. And we were like, what did you say? And we were like, what did you say? And you're like, what did you say? We don't remember what either one of us said at the proposal moment.

So you guys, but you know you said. Yeah, it's on video, but you can't hear what we're saying. Cause it's so loud at Disney. So I'm like, I don't even know if I said yes or if Matt even asked me. But I knew that that's what was happening. I kept rewriting what I was gonna tell Abby when I dropped down on one knee

and I couldn't nail down a line. So then one of my buddies was like, dude, just speak from the heart, bro. And so I spoke from the heart and I think it came out really weird and we still have no idea what I said. It worked. You can't even hear what I said in the video.

I have no idea. Did you? I was just like, I love you so much. Yeah. Well, that's better. I'm not that's better. Did you memorize your thing? No. Okay, good to say. Yeah, go ahead.

Josh is like, that's so- This is her favorite story. That's so sweet of you to actually think about what you want to say when you propose, honestly. Because after he proposes to me, I open up his phone and he's on WikiHow and it says what to say when you propose. Listen, listen, listen. I spent so much time trying to make the song and the music video and keeping it secret from her and get all her family there and everything.

When it came up to it, Matt was like I'm going to go get her and I was like, I looked at Chase who was shooting the video and I was like, wait what do I say? And then he was like, I don't know, Google it. And I was like, I looked at Chase, he was shooting the video and I was like, wait, what do I say? And then he was like, I don't know, Google it. And I was like, okay. And then I Googled it. Yeah. So what'd you say? I don't remember.

It's in the video. It's in the video, but I think it was like one or two sentences, I don't think it was much. Yeah. That's the one thing I wish I would've done different, but yeah, it was very short. Like you wish you would've like, Yeah, figured out what to say.

Figured out what to say. Hold up though, cause since you guys were saving your kiss for marriage did that like were you bothered by the fact that he kissed you were you like what the frick dude like we already decided we're gonna kiss and now you're kissing me no I wanted him to so bad I was like when you propose you have to kiss me okay like please and he like would play it like I don't know if we should but then he did so it's fine yeah but it was just so it was not stressful but I was just so busy trying to get the music video and all that I mean I don't know if you what you do do

music right I do music yeah yeah so you know what it's like a little but the guy chase who shoots all our music videos he was flying to town and the day before he was flying to town I didn't have a song for it but we were shooting a music video and he was like dude you better get a song so it But we were shooting a music video and I didn't have a song And he was like dude you better get a song so I we have like an at-home studio And I was in the studio like all day and night like trying to find a song and then finally on his flight there Like I had a song and he landed and we recorded it But yeah, it was it was very busy shooting a music video with no song Do you produce like do you produce all of your own stuff?

I mean we they do it enough like to run it ourselves, like the studio and stuff, but just enough to run it. Like, mixing master and all that, I don't do it. My friend Chase, who shoots the videos, also does it. Shout out to Clareton for supporting this episode and providing us with samples. Do you know I should be the poster child of Clareton? Oh my gosh, that's so true. You have so many snot boogers all the time. I always took Clareton

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all day? Great question. Um, it's a lot like I think it's kind of like you guys where there's just a lot of different platforms that we operate on with TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, um, even Twitter now. So it's like with all the different accounts and podcasts, YouTube channel, TikTok, now I'm doing music, but then we're also parents. Yeah.

Do you post those? Post what? Do you physically like, are you the one that clicks post? For the song? No, for just like all your posts. Now we have a team that helps with posting the content. But sometimes yes, like it depends. Like sometimes if it's not business hours,

I'll be like nine o'clock at night, and I'm the one like posting it, because like a video has to go out. Yeah. Yeah, what about you guys? I would say for you, the main thing that you work on is definitely just the LOL brand, whether that's like the podcast or the club videos

or just like the thumbnails and stuff like that. We don't have a very big team yet to like, so both of the boys are very like hands on on all of it. And then on top of that we do have like a social media like management company where we have like a couple of influencers. There's not many like very many girls but we have a couple of influencers, there's not very many girls, but we have a couple of influencers that we have signed on as their manager and so he has a couple of email inboxes he has to go through and then on top of that.

Well I don't really do those. I mean Chase. Yeah, Chase did take those over I guess. Yeah, they all take over all the emails now. But yeah, I mean it's just kind of like just managing people and stuff like that, just trying to get all the channels going. And then hers is kind of random.

Hers is like mixed with work and then also mixed with household daily stuff. Yeah, because my social media, for some reason, I mean it's because I'm a girl, not for some reason, but brands just like girls way more. So my TikTok page, and our couples one, I guess does pretty well too, but it's my TikTok and the couples one

that does the brand deals on TikTok. And if I have a YouTube but like it's my take talk and the couples one that does like the brand deals on tik-tok and like If I have a YouTube sponsor, it's like way more for like makeup hair Yeah, it's just so more so we do a lot of brand deals I like on like not the podcast but everything else I'll do just because they want One of our channels you guys do stuff like kind of like 50-50 like that Like y'all each work and each like do house effort you guys like split it up like kind of like fitty-fitty like that like y'all each work and each like do house stuff or do you guys like split it up? So I mean at this point Abby spends a lot like I spend the mornings with our kids and every day after five o'clock

with our kids and and with Abby but now Abby's like rather than working from like eight to five like I typically do Abby spends half that time with the kids because she just she you know likes being a stay at home mom. Yeah. Yeah, at least half the day I'm with the kids. It just depends on what I have to get done. I just realized we don't really talk about this type of stuff a lot, but if I'm trying to work and be a mom,

one of them is going to suffer if I try to do it at the same time. Because before I was like, I don't wanna be with my kids. I can work when I'm with them. But then I was like, wait, this is kinda sad. They're not getting. You're there but you're not present. I'm there but I'm not present.

And it's just like, and then I'm doing a bad job of my job too. So I only work half a day, but then if I don't have much to do that day, even that, I'm like, I'll go be with the kids and then I'll just push this off to after bedtime or something later. But yeah, most of the time I'm just like mom'll go be with the kids and then I'll just push this off to after bedtime or like something later. But yeah, most of them just like mom and it's really fun.

Like I, it's like my dream. Like it's all I ever wanted. She works more right now, but the second we have kids, I know she'll drop a lot more. Okay, sorry, not to, you know, I just want to circle back to the no kissing things. I think that's so interesting. Like seriously, I'm just genuinely so curious.

Not a lot of people do that, honestly. Not many people do that. So like, what did your parents think? What did your friends think? What did people online think that you guys were waiting to kiss till marriage? Um, I don't really know what My parents I don't really have any like memory of talking to know about it really but my brother is the specific one I think he was like dude what and like he didn't understand it really and Which ironically now he just got a girlfriend and they're probably gonna get married soon and they don't kiss now either

no way he was like the one that would poke the most fun at us over it and now he does it which is kind of really yeah so he would make fun he just made fun of you all the time yeah kissing he's trying to get you guys to kiss like oh he wasn't trying to but he was just just like, he was just like, I don't know how to get it. I feel like whenever we were with a group of people, they would always, like, especially like our friends and stuff, they'd always be like, you guys have to kiss. Kiss now. Just do it. And we'd be like, no. And like, no one ever really saw us kiss. And like, I don't know. I don't really know what people thought of it. I'm sure a lot of people thought it was stupid and a lot of people were, I don't know, it's because it's, it is like not weird, but it's just something people don't do. Like there's not

a lot of people that do that. So I mean this in the most respectful way, like was it, was it challenging then? Like once you were married and you're like, okay, like we legit just like basically kissed for the first time and now you're, you're married so you can kind of do everything else. So were you guys like, was that weird? The wedding night? Like how did you guys approach all that? Oh, wedding night was great. I would tell y'all after, but I don't think I want to put it on the internet. It wasn't a bad or good, it's just an interesting, funny story.

But I don't want to put it on the internet. I don't care if y'all know. Okay, yeah. I mean, once we, about getting married, it wasn't like, I don't know, I feel like we were- The thing I was saying with the questions, like people ask us so many marriage questions, and I feel like we never have a good answer, because like I don't feel like we've had any like,

I don't know, what's that called? I know. Trial and tribulation? Trial and tribulation? Yeah, I don't feel like we've had much like, I don't know, what's that called? Trial and tribulation? What's that? Trial and tribulation. Yeah, I don't feel like we've had much of that yet. We've had friends that got married like really young, really quick, and then they said that, you know, the first year of marriage was like really, really hard. And like they almost hated each other.

I don't feel like there was any challenges. It was just, our first year was very interesting. It felt like because, well, one, we were so young and then we got well I say we were like I'm literally still a teenage girl like I forget that but we were like so young. That's her favorite phrase I'm literally still a teenage girl but in two in a month you can't say that. I know I'm like having like a crisis because I'm like a teenage girl and I'm not gonna be anymore and it's weird to think about but you're like're like, that's what I am. Yeah.

I've seen people post like they're like, I'm just, what is it? I'm just a teenage mom of, or what did he say? I'm just a 24 year old. Teenage mom. Teenage. Yeah. Like you just kind of feel the same way mentally,

but then you're like, well, I'm older. First, when we got married, we went on our honeymoon, like the day after we went on our honeymoon for a week. And then I think we came back for, if I'm not mistaken, like a couple of days maybe. And then we went on tour for a month. Yeah. And we were in a, that was, that was like the weirdest.

So our first month of marriage was in a tour bus. With like eight or nine other people. Including his parents. Oh, really? Which was great. I love my, I love his parents so much, but it's like being newlyweds on a bus with your in-laws.

Were you guys abstinent for the first month of marriage because you're on a tour bus with your whole family? They can't admit to anything. No. No, I was actually wondering that, though, because I. No, I mean, we made it work. That's hilarious. Is there enough space to do it on a bus?

OK. Seriously. No, no, because I'm so curious, because touring, like the concept of it, it's crazy. Like you're on a tour bus and everyone's sleeping like on like a triple Decker bunk bed. And so we just, like a friend of mine from social media, Graham is on tour with Connor Price and we just went to see their show in Phoenix. And I saw a video of like everyone on the bus and I'm like, holy frick, they're all stacked up on top of each other. So that was literally the very bus. And I'm like, holy frick, they're all stacked up

on top of each other. So that was literally the very first thought I had. It's like, how does anyone have sex on this bus? I mean, there is enough room. Not on the bunks, actually. That's what I was thinking. The bunks are so tiny. No, the bunks are pretty small.

It was like we could barely even fit in there just to lay together because it was pretty small. And I didn't want to get my bunk like, you know, dirt. It's like we always use my brother's bunk when he was gone. So. No. What happened? Wait, can I say this?

Do you know what I'm about to say? No. OK, I'll keep it. I don't know what you're going to say. I already know what to know. All I was going to say was the Arkansas family vacation. No. You can't say it?

OK, OK. You just got to get creative. Like when there's a will, there's a No. You can't say it? Okay, okay. You just gotta get creative. Like when there's a world, there's a way. You know? He's not gonna say it, but I'll say it. Yeah, I'm not gonna say what happened, but let's just say- You can fill in the blanks.

Let's just say that our bedroom was like, out was essentially in the living room. There's certain things that just need to stay private. Yeah, and I think my brother was like freaking 20 feet. Like my little brother was like sleeping like 20 feet away. Anyway, you get, yeah, that I'm gonna stop it right there. Mindful. That's how she is.

I would say it all, but she doesn't, she don't want to talk about it. I'm okay with talking about these things. Like, cause we talk about marriage and like, that's a real part of marriage, but like certain specific stories. Yeah. There's certain stories that just don't need to be out there.

You can fill in the blanks that like on family vacations, it still happens, but you just got to get creative. The funniest part was you had a yeast infection that trip because we were newlyweds and no one told me, no one told Abby to pee after we did it. So she, so she. Same. That happened to you too? Yes, I was. We were on tour and literally like, oh yeah, we were because there was one night we had gotten back, we were in Dallas. There's one, we were, cause there was one night we had gotten back,

we were in Dallas, there was one night we could be at our apartment, so we were, and then we had to get back on the tour bus, and like no one told me that, or people had told me that, but I actually thought it was a joke. And so I didn't, and then like we're literally like at these shows and I'm in tears,

and there was other, like another girl on the bus, and she was like trying to help me, and she's like, you should take this this medicine and the medicine turned your pee like neon yeah orange freak out dude yeah so it was a terrible experience yeah so sorry no one actually told me and that's so bad yeah cuz we also waited and then like one week later I was like something is wrong I had a really bad fever I was shaking over that if we have daughters we are 1000% gonna tell them like hey if I was like, something is wrong. I had a really bad fever. I was shaking. Remember that?

If we have daughters, we are 1000% gonna tell them like, hey, pee after sex. It's gonna be like, it'll just be like something like on, yeah, I just like, even our sons, like I feel like when our sons get married,

it's like, tell your wife to pee after sex. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was so miserable. I was like, I don't know what's wrong, but I feel like I'm dying. I felt horrible for you. And I remember, was it my sister-in-law or my mom's mom was like, oh, no one told her. I feel like people talk about stuff so much, but no one mentions that.

Yeah. I mean, I remember at my little bridal shower or whatever, one of the things was like, you could fill out a note card and all of my high school friends, literally they wrote that. They said, make sure you pee after sex. And I was like, oh, haha, so funny. My friends just make it- Oh, so you were told? I was told, but I genuinely thought it was a joke. Oh, it does seem like a joke. Why does that, why did, why, honestly? It, I don't know. Why does it do something? I don't know. I literally thought about it so much. You should go see my doctor.

He might know. You never my doctor. You never forget. Once you have one, you never forget ever again. Yes, because it was so bad. Like I literally had to leave the show, like middle of the show that they were at and go like Uber to a Target to get the medicine. Because I was like that too. I was like just sick and like laying in my bed.

It was so bad. I hate being sick, man. I'm not trying to relate here. We can talk about that when your husbands are sick. Laying in my bed. It was so bad I hate being sick, man Isn't it the worst when you're sick get out of bed it's horrible I'm like hey babe, if you want to sleep in, you know, whatever, like I'll make you breakfast, all this stuff. I'm sick. It's like, get out of bed. She's like, you're really not going to the gym this morning?

Wow. I'm like, what? And then she's like, I went to the gym. I'm like, I'm not forcing you to go to the gym while you're sick. Like don't, don't go to the gym, you know? Well, that's so valid. When her husbands are sick, it's just so, it's so sad.

It's so sad. I feel so bad for you. It's like a little like tummy ache and they're like knocked out for days yes there's no empathy there yeah i'm sorry i'm like you don't have periods you don't get pregnant you don't have anything i'm like i'm sorry there's just no empathy yeah hey real quick i don't want to take too much of your time i just want to thank you for being here like seriously the fact that you're listening to this podcast right now or watching from wherever you are means the world to us. I can't believe that

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One last thing I wanted to say about the yeast infection thing is when we arrived at this family vacation house or whatever in Arkansas, it was so funny because no one was supposed to know about the yeast infection. We've never talked about this actually. But then somehow, like I think I might've told my mom,

which then like my mom told my dad and my dad told everyone. So then everybody knew. I was like, this is something that no one really needs to know. Like it's taken care of, but it became like the conversation. It was like, Abby has a yeast infection, so just give her some space.

He brought it down though. Give her some space. So gross too, even just the word. I know, like why is yeast infection the word like it's so gross Let's make like something cuter What's a crazy story that you guys have never told on the internet I told Kate I was like I can't have a girlfriend I can't have a girlfriend from the ages of like 14 to 17 and Then finally I was like, okay, I think I'm ready to have a girlfriend

So then I was like called her up and I was like, hey Do you mind if I pick you up because I called her up and I was like, hey, do you mind if I pick you up? Because I was in Oklahoma and I was graduating. And I was graduating that year. It was the year I was supposed to graduate. But I hadn't done school in like three or four years. But my mom was like, you're gonna still graduate. So I have pictures and videos.

I was like, okay. And I was like, hey, do you mind if I come pick you up and bring you up to Oklahoma for my graduation and She's like, yes So she asked her parents and stuff and this was like the first time I met her parents So I go down there I mean it was kind of known like hey like we might start dating like so like I went out to eat with her parents And stuff so we weren't like officially dating yet, but everybody knew like we were probably going to and I got to eat chilies with her parents and everything went great. You guys go to chilies a lot right? Oh yeah my brother's favorite place he goes about every day sometimes twice a

day. It's insane. So we go to chilies normal meeting the parents type of vibe and then we set off for Oklahoma which is like three hours away and we get about maybe seven minutes down the road and we pull into an abandoned parking lot and Wait, yeah, 15 17 16 17 and Right as we park this cop this cop sees us and he pulls up on us and I don't really you remember I'll let you tell the story because I'm not gonna say something that you get mad at. So you say the rest. Well, we were just doing what a 15 and 17 year old would do in a parking lot. We weren't having sex.

What is that? I don't even know what that is. Matt, shut up. Think a little harder. Okay, sorry. I don't know. They saved their first kiss for marriage. Oh no, I'm I don't know. They've saved their first kiss for marriage. Oh no, I'm saying, Shannon, respectfully. No, no, no, no. Okay, we didn't save our first kiss for marriage because we had started kissing when we were like 13. There was a reason we stopped kissing. There was a reason we stopped kissing.

So we were kissing and then we kissed the first six months of dating and then about six months in we were like, we don't want to be doing anything until we get married and kissing is what's leading to all of that Yeah See I thought you guys legit had never like legit I'm stupid we're in the parking lot and this cop pulls up on us and Yeah, I'm singing what we were doing, But he took it like a way further extra step.

And he was mad. And I was like, oh, he was very mad. It was during COVID and we were in, for some reason we thought the movie theater parking lot was like genius, because there was no cars there. But it was like right off the highway. But then you also stick out. But yeah, he was like very mad.

And then he was like, he was very mad. And I was like, I don't know why this dude's so mad. And he was like saying, this is pretty crazy. Wait, can I, should I say that? Yeah, he was like worried that I was, he was actually worried that I was being traffic. Oh my gosh. And I was like, dude, can you not tell

we're clearly like dating, we're like in high school here. And then he like, the whole time he had my hands out the window like this. I think he was genuinely concerned, Cash. the whole time he had my hands out the window like this. I think he was genuinely concerned, Cash. The whole time he had my hands out the window like this. Well, did you look really young and you looked quite a bit older? No, I looked, we probably each looked maybe 16.

He said, he told my parents what he was upset about was the fact that it was a, cause it was an Oklahoma license plate and the truck we were in was like fricked up. Like it was like- It was my brother's truck that he first bought. And it was like, it was like a thousand dollar truck. It was like beat up.

And so it was like an out of state license plate and this bright orange, like beat up little pickup truck. Like it was a rough looking truck. And so that's why he was concerned was that. He had you put your hands out the window the whole time. Yeah. The entire time. And then he called her mom and he might have just met the mom and dad like 10 minutes ago for the first the whole time? Yeah. The entire time. And then he called her mom. Yeah.

And he might have just met the mom and dad like 10 minutes ago for the first time. Oh my gosh. Her mom comes down there and she's not like too mad or anything. She's just like, it's okay, like, let's just go back home or whatever and we'll talk to your dad.

And so her mom goes down and talks to the cop. So we drive back to their house, which is like five minutes down the road and Kate's in the car with me and her mom's driving in the other car And Kate's like they're not gonna let me go to Oklahoma anymore And then I'm gonna have to stay and I was like no surely they will I was like there's no shot We get there and somehow our parents let us still go to Oklahoma with me I don't know this was on your way to Oklahoma. Yeah, yeah, we just took off from her house Yeah, seven and down the road.

Yeah, they call my parents tell them everything and then we get home and my parents... That was awkward man. She, her mom goes in the room with her and I'm just in the living room like this with her dad sitting across like this and we're just dead silent. We're just like... That's so awkward. And he like sent the other siblings to the room. And we're just sitting here like. And he's like, literally all I remember that he said to me, he's like, so how many girlfriends you have? And I was like, just the one.

And that was it. Yeah. And then we, my parents somehow, I don't know how, but they somehow still let me go up to Oklahoma. And then we had to go, three hours later, we had to have a talk with his parents too and it was alright because the cops I was also underage so they also called my parents my mom was in tears she was very sad then we got there we're like oh no now we got to do it all again yeah and we walk into my house my brother's just like did you get put in cuffs at all or

anything like that or no I wish I would have been a better story, man. But no, that was pretty much it. He just had me see my hands out the window the whole time. And then he asked me why there was a baseball bat in the backseat so many times. Yeah, he was very concerned about the baseball bat. I was like, this is a baseball bat. You feel like to play baseball? You ever heard of baseball? Yeah, but yeah, that was an eventful story. My brother actually told that story at our wedding. Oh my gosh, he did? His best man speech was very crazy, very unhinged.

We actually haven't put it out on the internet and I don't know if we ever will. Yeah, we can't put his best man speech out on the internet, unfortunately. But it was very, I mean, I proved it. He was like, told me some of the jokes and stuff he was going I mean I I proved it he was like told me some of the jokes and so he was gonna say I was like I don't care at all and some actually some of our people that attended whatever they're called um some of them actually cared way more than we did yeah but you like offended they were like mad just a couple people but yeah he made a lot of jokes like

crazy stuff but it was funny I thought it was hilarious Well, thank you guys for hopping on the podcast. This is fun. Yeah Where can people find you guys online? I think you have like a fifty thousand accounts, but what is the finest on myspace? Yeah, I'm just pretty much everywhere just catching Kate LL podcast. Thank you guys See y'all sweet