The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - End of Pregnancy Q&A

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

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Are you worried at all for the C section? More than anything, I'm just excited for that day. Like, I don't know this is super weird, but I'm curious to know what it feels like. How is intimacy going? I'm impressed you've still been able to make that happen with that massive belly of yours. Okay. How would you like to strive to paint, of giving birth? Right before I push, I knew that I was fully dilated because it literally felt like I had a watermelon to poop out.

That is horrible. When you're in public and you're pregnant, everyone is so nice. They're like, you're so cute, which is really sweet and encouraging. Because sometimes I just feel like a teletubby or something. There's really nothing like experiencing light inside of you. Yeah. That is spectacular.

It's a miracle. Are you tearing up right now? Maybe. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. What's up, dude? And welcome back to the Unplanned F BetterHelp. What's up, dude? And welcome back to the on-plan podcast. What's so funny? I just think it's so hilarious that we say

what's up, dudes, to start every episode. I just think it's so funny. I don't know. Yesterday, we just heard the news of when Abby is having the C-section at scheduled. Which I don't think we should share on the end, probably. OK, yeah, we're not going to share the date of the C-section. But I don't know. Does it matter? I don't know. But anyway, my probably. Okay, yeah, we're not gonna share the date of the C section. But, bro.

I don't know, does it matter? I don't know, but anyway, it's gonna be two from the day that we're filming this episode. It's two weeks from today. So when you're watching this, it might've already happened. That's crazy. Actually, wait, oh my gosh, is the baby here when they're watching this episode?

Maybe. It's so exciting. We wanted to do an end of pregnancy Q and A because we are just so, so close to having this baby. Our life is about to change big time once again. But I've heard that the second pregnancy, I've heard the second kid isn't as big of a life change as the first. Yeah, you know everyone has their own experience, but I feel like that's what most people say. Yeah. Also everyone's experience is so different. Your knee is knee and mind.

Your knee is over, so this is the middle of your leg house. Well I get a little bit more space because of my belly. You're taking up space on the couch, and I just don't think that's in front of you on my space, so. But you're pregnant, so you win. Well, we've got some really incredible questions from you guys on our unplanned podcast Instagram. If you're not refiling.

No, it's actually my Instagram. Oh, okay. Well, you still should follow the unplanned podcast Instagram. I think you're supposed to put the question box on the unplanned podcast Instagram. Did you want me to do that? Yeah, I think I wanted it on the unplanned one. Sorry.

It's all good. But without further ado, let's kick this thing off. First question we have from Zara is, what has been the most surprising thing about your pregnancy so far? This baby has so much movement in him. He's hyperactive. He's hyperactive. He's kicking you non-stop.

Yes, he, it's really hard to capture on camera because it's like as soon as I feel a massive movement, of course, I turn the camera on and it's like, okay, well, he just moved so. But like, at the doctor's office even last week, he was moving so much to the point where our doctor couldn't get an accurate reading of his heart. So they had to give me a stress test of which on the stress test They could see that I was having contractions which I can feel they're not like painful or anything

They're like the Braxton Hicks like practice contractions, but Needless to say this baby has moved in a way that our first baby never did in my body. So it just That is definitely strange to me. Like, it's crazy feeling like, I feel kicks in my ribs at the same time I'm feeling him, like push on my hip, like at the same time, and then it's just wild. Would you say this pregnancy has been harder or easier than your first pregnancy with Griffin? Think harder. Wow, really?

Yeah. It's definitely been different. That's what shocked me is this whole experience has been different for the both of us. And I kind of expected it to be the same. So that, that grew up. I mean, I'm not gonna say it's vastly harder, but it's been harder.

And I think it's like a number of factors we have. Another baby to take care of. And like that, that I can't rest as much or sit down as much. You're just at Target the other day and I saw that pregnant mom with two little boys and I was like, oh my gosh, that would be, that would be a lot to have two little ones and then also be pregnant. Well, especially because ours isn't walking. So like carrying him and he's so heavy that has made it hard. Yeah.

A little bit harder. Also this baby's carrying lower which is really common for not your first pregnancies. And I think also because I got pregnant like so back to back I do feel like there was some healing that never happened in my like abdomen and especially my pelvic floor. So that has caused like a little bit more discomfort, but I would just say marginally harder. Yeah. Pregnancy is never easy. And are you preparing for your second birth differently if so? How?

Yeah. So the second birth is going to be a scheduled C section, whereas we were induced with like a vaginal delivery with our first. So I think it's going to be a totally different experience honestly. Yeah. None the less special, but totally different. I think it's like, okay, the worst thing that happened with the birth in my opinion, I mean, okay, actually, I don't want to say the worst thing because there's like, obviously

the worst thing, I don't even want to talk about the worst thing could be, but a bad, not fun birth experience would be pushing for hours on end and then having to then get the C sections that you're like your body's then recovering not only from the C section, but it's also recovering from the birth itself because you went through both. So like, what is nice because we know this is going to be a bigger baby, I'm glad that it's a C section. Well, that's really not the reason.

Yeah. Just so you know, I mean, obviously that measurements are affecting my doctors like recommendations, but it really is because we had shoulder dysto show with the first, which basically means that his shoulders got stuck. I guess like on my pubic bone. And our doctor said that you're just a smaller framed woman,

like your body just, it's not like you have like crazy white hips where a baby could just like pass through easily. So I think he got stuck, like Griffin got stuck on the way out and we're just being cautious with this second kid. Because you are apparently more likely to have that same thing happen, especially if the baby is measuring larger than the first, which is the case for us.

So I mean, obviously I know that there are women that do a vaginal delivery and everything is just fine after having a shoulder just Oshia, but that's just, you know, what our doctor recommended and I really trust our doctor and I feel most comfortable doing her recommendations. And so I'm going to seize my own birth experience and accept her recommendations. So I'll be able to speak on vaginal delivery and C-section delivery after this. I really want to know which one's worse. Like I really want you to talk about that. Oh my gosh, there's so many factors that influence that.

Like, so many different things. So I'm not gonna say, I can only speak for my own experience after that. What has been a recent, Cret? I'm sorry, what has been? You're giving me these questions rapid-fire. I know rapid-fire Q&A. What has been your biggest pregnancy craving,

this trimester? Yes, also I should put my phone on. Yeah, why is your phone keep going off? I guess it's this, oh, okay. We have some exciting news in our family. Oh yeah. That's why. Our niece for nephew is here at this point. Yes, and it's the most exciting thing ever.

And we are so in love. So that's why I'm getting all these updates. It's a bunch of pictures in the family chat. But yeah, go see if we were right. Or if we were wrong. I know what your pregnancy craving is. It's bagel bites. Abby's been eating bagel bites. Yeah, I ate 12 repilates.

Like crazy. Why is it why bagel bites? I mean, it's really nothing specifically about bagel bites, but I've just been feeling super nauseous and picky. Kind of like I do in the first trimester. You wouldn't even eat your chick-fil-a-samage last night. What was up with that? Well, you got a weird one.

Chick-fil-a-samage isn't cheese, don't Well, you got a weird one. Chick-fil-a sandwiches and cheese don't really mix well for me. That is true. I thought, for some reason, my brain, I thought you wanted the deluxe and then I got you the deluxe one with cheese. I like the club. Oh, yeah. The grilled chicken club.

That would have been a good one. Yeah, the cheese on that just didn't taste right to me. I'm also just, I mean, it's not bad. I'm just super picky right now. I don't have my normal taste buds. I've been having like just just an overactive gag reflex. Wait, really? Yeah, things give me the ick immediately.

I usually eat three, excuse me. Usually eat three eggs in the morning, but they've been giving me the ick so quickly that I have to eat one scrambled egg, which is so small. And then I have to eat, I'm only eat one scrambled egg, which is so small. And then I have to eat like, I'm mostly eating like carbs. Yeah. Which my doctor said just to stick to a very bland diet because I've been having such bad stomach aches

and loose stools. Yeah, our doctor yesterday at the appointment was like, maybe you should try going dairy free. And then last night I was like, Abbie, tonight's pajama night at our local frozen yogurt place. Let's go, Gresh dress up in our pajamas to get 50% off. And she's like, Matt, I was like Abby, tonight's pajama night at our local frozen yogurt place. Let's go dress up in our pajamas, they get 50% off and she's like, Matt, I was literally just told not to have.

I could have gone and gotten sorbet. I just had a terrible headache last night. Yeah, your headache was really bad, yeah. It was so bad. I mean, it lasted for 24 hours because I normally can take a sedge and migrate and it goes right away, but I can't take that right now being pregnant.

So I just had to deal with it for like, over a day. I'm so sorry. It was so bad. I had blurry vision in the eye that it was on that side. But what was the question? Oh, pregnancy craving bagel bites, green juice. It's pretty much the same. Green juice, I think the green juice means

that your iron is low. We gotta be careful with that. I don't feel like I have low iron. I think you have low iron. You're just diagnosed with that. I'm diagnosing you right now. Also, I feel like I haven lower. I think you have lower. You're just diagnosed with that. I'm diagnosing you right now. Also, I feel like I haven't got as much blood work this time as I have in previous times. Yeah, you're right.

Interesting. Abby is a trooper. She has spent the last two days going to bat with our freaking health insurance. This health insurance, it's been a nightmare you guys. They denied every single claim from Abby's birth and all of Griffin's like doctors visits and completely by accident. And it just became a huge mess where like the hospitals like wanting their money, but then the health insurance didn't cover anything and they should have so then we're like trying to you know our Abby's that we couldn't

get the self-pay rate because we were insured. Yep. But then our insurance tonight, all the claims that we were like left with like, I mean, it's well over $100,000. Insurance in America is freaking crazy. Yeah, we've talked about it before. It's a mess situation.

I can't believe that. Like it's insane. Luckily, I mean, one of the bills was for like 86 grand and then once the insurance, I don't know if they gave us an extra discount because of all the hassle that we've got. No, they definitely not. You don't think so, okay.

Okay, but anyway, that one went down with Alice, and dollars, which was like, woo, okay. But it's just crazy to me how wacky, healthcare can get here. And here's the other thing too. So some of these bills went to collections because when we're in this dispute, the hospital can't make up their mind,

the insurance can make up their mind. So then we're over here, like chilling, like come on guys, like we gotta figure this out. Some of then we're over here, like chilling, like come on guys, like we gotta figure this out. Some of these bills went to collections, and then when they go to collections, you can literally negotiate the bills. So like, you can literally say,

oh, the bill is this much, well, can we pay this instead? It's crazy how it works. Like it's just, it shouldn't be that way. Yeah, I mean, I've learned a lot in hindsight, we should have made like a payment plan and then just chipped away at it while we were fighting with insurance. So it didn't escalate to collections.

That's true. We've learned so much. It's like you don't know what you don't know. And, you know, I've learned a lot. I appreciate you taking care of those because when I was trying to handle the medical bill mess that we were in, it was like, it was taking up both of our time

because then I was on the phone but then they couldn't even talk to me. They just kept asking to talk to you. Well, it's still not done. To be honest with you. Well, you did a lot of it, so thank you. We've gotten better. Thank you. Health insurance sucks. Next, we have, what is your favorite part of being pregnant?

I mean, there's really nothing like experiencing life inside of you. Like, that is spectacular. It's a miracle. I mean, it makes me cry. It's like, how beautiful that is.. It's a miracle. I mean it makes me cry just like how beautiful that is like we can like that's how we are pretty I may be but I'm just saying it's just so incredible like think about that. Yeah, it's amazing and it's also beautiful because it's like it's our baby together, like a result of our love. And so, you know, it's really an honor to experience pregnancy while it is extremely challenging. It's also like the most challenging things in life are the most rewarding things. And so it was crazy. No matter how you bring your baby into the world, whether it's through adoption, whether it's through surrogacy, you know, IVF, there's so many ways, but it's just it's through adoption, whether it's through Sargacy, IVF, there's so many ways,

but it's just, it's uniquely special to be able to carry your baby like this. It was really interesting to me, the way that you have viewed pregnancy, even with how hard it was seeing you go through birth with Griffin. And so like, my sister-in-law just had her baby and you guys could check out

what she's posted online about everything that she went through because it was like they went through a lot. My brother and sister-in-law went through a lot. Yeah a lot of a lot of things happened and I was like gosh I feel so bad for them. And then you were like no why are you feeling bad for them? Like this is the most beautiful thing and I'm like well yeah like I get that it's a beautiful thing birth is a beautiful thing and having a baby is a beautiful thing. But like sometimes like the process of having that kid is like it can be traumatic, it can be really hard. And I mean, I would say that in some ways your birth was traumatic with Griffin.

Like it was, there were scary times through it and there's blood like everywhere. And it just like, it kind of, it looked like a war zone in there, man. Like it's crazy how, how like, while it gets in the delivery room, but then you're right. I mean, at the end of the day, you do have a baby and that's so beautiful. Yeah, and it's almost like the struggle and the pain of it,

like makes it more incredible in a way. Like it just... Yes, I guess you wouldn't appreciate the baby as much, or you wouldn't appreciate the birth as much if you didn't have to really work for it, I guess. Right? Well, I mean, I don't know if that's necessarily true, but I'm just saying like it definitely like makes the experience something so much deeper, you know? Yeah, yeah.

I don't know. I think about like, I don't want to relate pregnancy to any sort of like sport or something. But I just think about like things in life where you like really work for something and you really work hard. And then you accomplish that thing and you're like, wow, I'm proud that I did that. So, maybe your trophy and the baby. Does that feel like, is like, griffin your trophy for you? Oh, I was telling my sister, I was like, it's like game day. Like, it's like, come on, like, give it your best shot.

And like, I don't know. We're relating, giving birth to a game now. Yeah, and then I push it out and it's like touched out. Your trophy is the baby. That's how I felt that day. Like I really felt like an athlete. Oh my god. And then after I had him, I felt so skinny.

Even though I looked so squishy and bloated, I just like looked at myself in my little diaper and I was like, I'm so snatched right now because I didn't have that massive belly that I had immediately deflates into a fluffy little haji pooch. Given that pregnancy can be, or given that birth can be so intense

and so traumatic even for some How do you calm your nerves when you're getting close to delivery someone's asking their their pregnant and they're kind of freaking out Oh, they said they're freaking out. Yeah, they're freaking out. There's 25 weeks pregnant. I mean, I will say Morgan Morgan you got this we believe in you Don't be afraid to share those fears because it's probably something that every mom has also felt to some capacity and they can speak to those and just know that fear is totally normal. How would you like to describe the pain of giving birth? Is there anything you can relate it to?

Because I know at the end, doesn't it feel like you're almost like pooping in a way? Like, isn't that almost what it feels like? Well, right before I pushed, I knew that I was fully dilated because although I have never experienced what it feels like to be fully dilated and your baby like ready to go down the brusque now, it literally felt like I was going, I had a watermelon to poop out. That is horrible.

Like so much pressure. I can't imagine a worse, I can't imagine a worse thing. It is a tremendous pressure down there. And remember I was like trying to tell the nurses, I was like, I'm telling you like something is different, something is different, and I could barely talk because I was just like so locked in. I hate that, yeah.

And they were kind of hesitant to believe me, which I don't blame them because I was just at a six, which if you know you have to get to a 10, it had taken me so long to progress to that point. And so I was like, no seriously, I was like, something is different. Finally, they checked me and they're like, oh, okay, yeah, it's time to push.

Like you're fully dilated, 100% of faced. Well, your epidural wore off. So you were feeling... I don't, I think I had some epidural. I don't know, dude. You were like really feeling that. Like it, they did not give you anymore. I know, but those women that truly go through

unmedicated births, like they sound different than I sounded. Oh, yeah. That's true. I mean, I'm women that truly go through unmedicated birth, like they sound different than I sounded. Oh, yeah. That's true. I mean, I'm sure you probably did have some epidural there. I'm sure I did. But, God, amen. I know it was pretty not strong at that point, because I felt every stitch, and I felt.

You felt every single stitch. Yeah. Which most people don't feel their stitches. Really? They don't. No, yeah, because your epidural should definitely, if they can numb numb those contractions and it can surely numb stitches. Yeah. Didn't it feel like you really- I felt pushing out. I felt him coming out, yeah. When you got the epidural, were you just so relieved? Like, ah my body's warm. I mean my

body's numb, not warm. No, I was shivering, I was shaking like crazy, but it felt amazing because I couldn't feel anything for a while. Yeah. Because- You waited a little bit. You kind of, you wanted to see what you could do without it. It was that. And then also I knew there were benefits to holding off. I put supposed benefits to holding off. So I was like, I want to let my body like labor a little bit and then do it.

This one's funny. It says, do people treat you different pregnant versus not? Oh yeah. People kind of stare at you. Yeah. Does that ever get weird? I mean, I'm not one to like care, obviously. Yeah.

Sometimes at the beginning though, when I was first on a show and I was holding this little baby, I felt like a little embarrassed. Like, I just looked like such a baby maker. You know what I mean? Like, I was so pregnant and holding a little tiny baby. But, no, I don't get embarrassed by that. I mean, it's a very natural, beautiful thing.

Does it ever feel intimidating to be by yourself, like to be pregnant and, like, alone, and it just feels, like, weird to be? Sometimes I do feel like that if I'm, like, in a situation where I look pathetic, like, if I'm, like, trying to, like, I don't know, like, I was in Target and I was trying to load a bookshelf into my cart,

and I'm, like, okay, I feel a little bit, like, if I wasn't pregnant, I don't think anyone would, like, give me a second look, but then people are, like, really looking, which is so nice, they want to help me. Yeah, and that's the other thing That's great like when you're in public and you're pregnant like people are so much sweeter They want they all want to share with you their stories about their own kids their own pregnancies Yeah, and it's really a cool like

Conversation starter because it's like we have so much in common because because like, a lot of people have been through this and so like, even yesterday at the movie theater, this lady, when you were like parking in the car, this lady was like, what are you doing? And like, she was talking about how her boys are 15 months apart, she had two boys and it was crazy, but it was great. And like, I've had so many conversations like that

with people, people are so sweet, so encouraging, like wishing as well. And they're like so nice. They're like, you're so cute, which is really sweet and encouraging. Yeah. Sometimes I just don't feel cute. I feel like a teletubbie or something.

And so it is really cool. Like the conversations that you have and everyone just is so nice. Yesterday, Abbie and I randomly went and saw Oppenheimer at the movie theater. And we just gone to a pregnancy appointment and we went and got Assa Eables. Well, I think it's because we scheduled the date

for the baby's arrival and I think you kind of like, how to crisis because you're like, I'm about to be tied down for a little bit and so you're like, let's go see a movie. I don't know and luckily, Abby's mom was watching Gryffin and we're like, hey, we got some time right now. We could literally just, well that was also our date for the week. We've been trying to do. We could literally just... Well, that was also our date for the week.

We've been trying to do weekly dates. That's true. I guess that was our date for the week. I didn't even think about that. I'm always thinking about that. It was just kind of sporadic and like, spur of the moment we drove by a theater and we're like, let's go watch a movie right now. It's we got some Jimmy John sandwich

which has put them in Abby's purse and then yeah, just watched a movie and it was kind of fun to just sporadically do something, pretending like we don't have responsibilities even though we do, like even though obviously, like we actually ended up missing out on some things that we had in our calendar and to get done yesterday, but oh well, we skipped it and just like went and saw a movie

and that was kind of fun to pretend like. It was fun, except there was like three hours long. It was a three hour long movie. It was really good though, I liked it a lot. Yeah, yeah. I specifically don't like to think that much when I'm watching movies, so it was a little bit like, it was very well done, but it was a little too intellectual for me. Oh really? I'm not a history buff.

But I feel like it did a good job kind of grasping what was going on right? Yeah, you did. And maybe that's what gave you the headache yesterday. No, I already had that. I thought about it. I was like, did I just blow up gas at my ears? Smoke out of my ears? Okay, anyway.

Yeah, blow gas. You already do that enough. You blow lots of gas. I feel like there's no room for air in there anymore, though, so my gas is a lot up a little bit. It just flies out. Why is that? I hate that, you.

How is your back doing right now? I know you've been having a lot of back. Oh my gosh You need a lay down. Should we just like let you lay down on the No, I'm fine. I can just move the my back. It's just very uncomfortable. You're just chill You just bake yourself just lay out a little bit. We can put the mic No, isn't people might see my feet and they always come about my face. I'm showing your feet I'm showing my feet right now. You guys understand we're in our own house. Like why am I going to put shoes on? Yeah, why, what the heck?

Wearing socks around the house, that's weird. No barefoot. Oh, socks? They want to, okay, I could do socks. I'm also in a cute romper that you never wear socks with. That's true. You know, my back does hurt quite a bit, actually. And it's because, can I tell them why?

Yes. It's because the baby's posterior. Ah. Very, very posterior. So that basically means that the placenta is usually closer to the back and the baby's not usually, but that's more common. It's called anterior and the placenta is on the back, which kind of cushions you from the baby and the baby's in the front.

In our case, this time around, the baby is right up on my back and the placenta is in the front. So I think that is why I'm having more back pain. And it really is a lot. What is the best thing that your husband has done for you in your pregnancy? First thing that came to mind was making me breakfast the other day that was very nice.

You made me pancakes. I thought you're gonna say that like playing with your back or like rubbing your back. Cause I rub that like ties in with the back one cause I rub your back for you. And it's weird dude, like you want me to like really press on your back when I rub your back. Yeah, like it's not it's not some wimpy little back massage It's like full force yeah, but I know that you burn out so quickly with that So that I usually just settle for like back tickles. Yeah, you like that and playing with my hair because it also distracts me from the back pain

How often are you accidentally tinkling your pants? You know, why is it that it has been not as much anymore? Like, it was really during the second trimester the most when I was like, peeing so much, but it's also because I was sick and I was coughing a lot. Didn't you think that your water broke last night? Yeah, there's just a lot. I don't know how much we want to go into detail. Oh shoot, is it still happening?

Are you still having like leakage? Well, I don't think it's like amnotic fluid, but there's a lot of other stuff going on. There's just a lot of stuff going on there. I think that's just totally normal for pregnancy though. Exactly, it's just hard to know though. Like, is this something I need to be concerned about? Or is this just, yeah, not as much tinkling,

but I would say probably one to week. Are you ready for this to be over? I don't want to wish it away, because I know that as soon as I have the baby, I will also just be like, oh, being pregnant with him is so sweet too. Yeah. I feel like it's always works out in perfect timing

where right when you have the baby, you're exactly ready to be done. So I think I definitely have the allotted time that we have left in me still. Yeah. Even though some nights I'm like, I can't do this anymore. Yeah, I would say that's definitely been happening.

That's been happening more frequently where you come to me and you're like, I am so ready for this baby. Sometimes I do feel overextended too. Like I'm still trying to do as much as I can and I do need to learn to slow my role. Okay, what's crazy though is the C section is scheduled for one day before Abby's dad's birthday.

And I was like, wait, should we see if we could like push the C section back one day? And then Abby and Abby's dad and our son could share a birthday and Abby was like, nope, I want this baby out. Well, no, I mean, it's just like that's not really a good reason. That would be cool though. It would be cool. Because Griffin shares a birthday with my mom. I know.

And then if all you share to birthday with your dad, we'll just have to have a 48 hour rager for the two of them. That's right. What are we gonna do? What type of stuff? Boundtouses for sure. Boundtouses? That's fun. How are you going to make sure Griffin feels amazing and special even with the new baby around? You guys don't even know how much attention that child gets. He gets all eyes on him all the time. He spoiled, yeah. Um, so yeah, that has, that was a concern of mine, but it is so good that we have so many people in his life that just love him so dearly. And he just lights up when he sees every one of them. I saw a really sweet video. It went like viral on TikTok of it was like when you, I think it was like when you live in a multi-generational

household and you were the only baby and then they let they line everybody up and they set like the one year old. And then they, the one year old ends up going to every single person. I love that about Griffin because he is like so social. He loves people. He loves just like having attention on him. and it's because he has constant attention Which obviously it's gonna be divided, but that's all right like he can hang out and we'll see all he loves babies This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp sometimes in life or face with tough choices and the path forward isn't always clear I know we first became parents it was the biggest life change that we ever faced I didn't know what I was doing, I was freaking out, trying to figure out.

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that are completely out of our control, but your confidence in your body and in your support system around you and your environment will do wonders. Like if that's having positive affirmations and like being in your own space, you know, whatever you need to do, for me, that was knowing that I could get an epidural, that knew that was meaning that it was just me and you in the room when things were like the most intense and also being in a hospital and having like medical team around me. So that's my best advice for the delivery experience. If you're anxious about overall pregnancy,

I felt so much comfort. And like I said, just reaching out to other people that were pregnant and had gone through pregnancy. And then also kind of taking care of my body like I would when I wasn't pregnant also made me feel like really good. Like continuing to work out, continuing to eat healthy, like eat normal, um, prioritize sleep.

Like all those things that are good for you normally are extra good for you while pregnant in my opinions. Like that would be my best advice. Is it nice setting a plate on your stomach when you're eating food? I don't find myself doing that a lot. But like you do use your stomach as like a holder for things. Yeah. Like you'll set your phone on your belly. You might put like some chips on your belly.

Well it's really because there's, I don't have a lap anymore. It's funny to me how you're snacking really takes off when you're pregnant. Like you just find, I like turn around and like you're eating like popcorn or like I turn around. Oh yeah, I, you're eating like gummy worms

or it's just kind of funny to me. I don't know, it's just. I don't do that as much not pregnant, right? It's just like, and you look at me like you have this like face like your caught red hand and I'm me. I don't know, it's just. I don't do that as much, not pregnant, right? It's just like, and you look at me, like you have this like face like, like your caught red hand and I'm like, I don't care like what you do, I just think it's funny. I think it's joke.

Yeah. No, I think I just need frequent, smaller meals while pregnant, so that's why my snacking is just. Yeah, like the other night you felt crumbs in the bed, I was eating that I'm pregnant. Yeah, you were scrums all in our bed. From your, from your freaking graham crackers. You're like, what is this? What is up with that? It's almost like, I'm daring youbs all in our bed. You're freaking cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr cr with the TV off. Okay, well, I like Kindle. But like, think about what could happen next, right?

You eat popcorn and they're, you know, you bring a special, you bring your special drink in. Oh, whoops, you just filled your special drink. You're like sounding so good. What? Buttery popcorn with M&Ms in it. M&Ms? You like M&Ms?

You know I like M&Ms. I just like too chocolatey in my opinion. Oh my gosh, just sweet and salty just sounds so good to me right now. I could do Carmel popcorn, put some like Carmel syrup on that, that'd be pretty good. I want sweet and salty. Now do you experience lightning crotch? I had them with my second.

Yes, I got it a little with my first. Got it more with the second. I don't know if it has anything to do with the fact that I'm already dilating. Yeah, how would you describe that? What is that feeling? Oh my gosh, what is that feeling? Lightening crotch is the greatest name for it.

It's like a little jolt in your crotch. Like a lightning bolt. Oh, a lightning bolt of... I don't know how to explain it. It just feels like every once in a while the baby is like about to come out. Like, and it's just like, it feels like he instantly like drops in there. But like... Oh shoot.

That's not really what's happening. I don't know what causes it, but maybe like a cramp in the most like craziest, like a sharp pain in your face. Yeah. Yeah, ice. That is a big one. Like a very sharp immediate, like I was having it so bad yesterday walking into the doctor, I could barely walk in.

You're right. Every step was giving me lightning. And this morning when I went on a walk, I was like, oh my gosh, I was on the treadmill too, so I couldn't stop immediately. And then I was afraid to put my legs on both sides because I didn't want to spread them. Oh my god.

I was just like, the lightning is real. I felt like Zeus was just like, ch-ch-ch. Oh yeah, Zeus. Yeah, he's a lightning god of lightning or something. Yeah, something like that. I don't really know where I was going with that. Okay.

I don't know. One of my fears now is that like your water's gonna break at like some random time and we're gonna be like, to this hospital. Yeah, I do feel that but then also do you notice yesterday the doctor said baby's high. So. Oh really?

It's crazy because he feels so low. Yeah. Just shows how low they have to go. That is wild. I know. I think about all the women back in the day that like Couldn't have been induced couldn't have gotten a C section and they're just like waiting till who knows how long till this Baby just comes out naturally, you know

Well, they probably didn't have a good idea of what the gestational age was anyway because I mean we just have Accesses so many more resources. It's sad to like looking at history, how many women died during childbirth. Like some experts say that in the 17th. You can't say that right now because you had so many questions that were like anxious mom here. Oh my gosh. Don't save.

Well, I'm just saying thank goodness for modern technology and healthcare and stuff. Yes, yes. Because back in like the 1700s, like some experts say it was up to 3% of women died died during pregnancy like how how crazy is that that's so so sad But now we have hospitals and all of that and that's just like so so good And that's why like we definitely feel safer about going to a hospital

I guess you really can't do a C section at home that would not that would not be a good idea What were you living in my Howard? So I guess you really can't do a C section at home. That would not, that would not be a good idea. What were you living in my Howard? I do not know. Anyway, how was your mood at this stage in the pregnancy? How do you stay motivated? Cause you're, you're still working out. You're still going to the gym.

I don't know how you're doing that. I mean, I went to the gym yesterday, but a lot of days I ended up just walking on the treadmill because I'm kind of afraid of going into labor. I feel like my body's already like, once you get back from this little 24 hour getaway, you're having, I will go back to the gym and not worry about it so much.

When I'm telling them I'm probably just gonna walk because I'm like, I don't know what could happen. Yeah, working out definitely helps my mood stay in good spirits, setting boundaries too. I feel like more a lot of nights, like right when we put Griffin to bed, I'm like, okay, well I'm gonna go and I'll like go and start unwinding

whether that's taking a bath, reading, or watching a show. Like I need a little bit more time to be alone and to just like lay down, lay low. Letting my needs be known, I don't know. Yeah, it's funny seeing you as somebody that's so social and loves to be around people all the time,

taking moments to have self-care to take a bath, just like relax, and it's funny when I'm in the bathroom, like just trying to chat with you and you're like, can you leave me alone, I'm trying to watch my show? Or like if you're... Listen to my podcast. Yeah, look at your podcast. Yeah, I definitely do feel myself needing more alone time,

like as I'm like mentally preparing to bring a life into this world, it's not coming from like fear or anything. I think it's just really a natural thing of needing to transition myself and like take some time. Are you feeling so tired at this point? I do feel tired. Yeah, I feel really good like most of mostly during the day at night. I'm like okay, I'm sore, I'm achy, I'm exhausted.

What's really impressive is the days that you wake up before I do. I wake up before you every sickle day. That's true. I actually go to bed like later than you. I can't sleep in. Yeah, you can't sleep in anymore. Why is that? Why can't you sleep in? I don't know. I think it's just honestly since we've had a baby, like I'm just naturally more on his rhythms. And I think there's a part of me that once day of my day started before he wakes up, so I can just spend as much time with him as possible during the day. Are you uncomfortable in bed?

Like, how would you say your comfort level is when you're sleeping? Not good. You like to sleep on your belly, which is like so sad. Yeah, I mean, you just get used to it, but I do wake up multiple times. And like if my pillow that I have between my legs gets out, then I'm like, oh, I gotta get that back. But I also have to go to the bathroom so much.

So I'm really just not sleeping the best. It's actually very hard to get out of our bed because we have this like board, or I don't know, like a little because we have this like board or I don't know like a little step Around our bed and so I don't know it's hard for me to waddle out multiple times in the night to go Visit the toilet. Yeah, but yeah, it's not the most comfortable. Are you scared of getting postpartum depression? No, I mean, I know it's a possibility, but I also know that there's so many resources Yeah, and I'm not afraid to seek those out. And then...

How do we make sure that in case that does happen, we have the setup. I feel like there's a progression of things, right? Where it's like, okay, wait, do I just need to take a minute and like, do something for myself, whether that's go for a drive by myself, journal, read, you know, take a bath,

go to bed a little earlier, something like that, or if it's something where it's like, okay, I need to actually talk to someone about this in my personal life, or do I need to talk to a medical professional about this, and then ultimately, I think the top one would be like to seek medication. So, I mean, it kind of just, I feel like it follows a progression of like, where do we find the solution to the problem? But yeah, I mean, I'm not anticipating that for sure. We should have like a code word that like if one of us needs to take a break or the it's like an hour to Just leave the house and go do something. It's like my code word with my roommates and college was bagels

So I feel like that's my impulse. That was like if one of us was like out in the main living space and being too loud at night, like we would just text in the group chat bagels and then everyone knew like, okay, that's like a polite way of saying, please shut up. We should totally initiate the bagel rule. And it's like say one of us is getting overwhelmed and it's just been a lot. And like we need to leave. Like so you say bagels. What do need to leave. So you say bagels. What do you do?

So if you say bagels. Well, it worked for me with Griffin when I was feeling like I overwhelmed or like a little bit in a rut or sad. Because I definitely got baby blues with Griffin. I would say, I just needed, I went out and called them my mental health drives. I personally like love going for a drive if I'm feeling a little sad.

And so I'll leave the house, go for a drive. I would get like a sweet tea for McDonald's or like, I got a lot of sweet teas for McDonald's. Are they still a dollar? And this economy, there's nothing as a dollar. There's no dollar menu anymore. You go to any place, there's no dollar menu. It's like, there's like a $2.99 menu. Like, how do we go from the dollar menu to then like boom, we've tripled the prices. Psych, you know? Well, because of inflation, Matt. But like inflation, we've tripled the prices, psych, you know?

Because of inflation, Matt. But like inflation, inflation's been bad, but it's not been that bad. Like it's not been bad enough to where prices triple in two years, you know? I don't know, Matt, I cannot, I don't know any economics. You don't know any of the economics.

I don't know any of the economics of this. I'm just saying like a mental health run means a lot. Yeah. When I could finally go to the gym, that was like something that was like so good for me. I'm trying to get more in a running, like maybe. I'm not probably gonna run. You're probably not gonna run. So I actually hate running.

Like I really want to run more because I feel like the runner's high thing is real. Like I just like, you get a high from working out and it like just makes you feel good. Like I think that exists for runners too. I, I prescribed to this thinking of like, do people that run know that they don't have to? And I get that, but then I'm like, with any hard thing, I've realized this, so I'm like, everything in life that is worth

like fighting for or doing is hard. So it's like, when you run, yeah, it's freaking hard, but then like, you feel good and it's good for your cardiovascular health and you get this like boost of you know energy and you're in your brain. It's kind of like the same stuff that you get when you work out because you love to work out. I don't know anybody in my life that likes to work out as much as you have you. Really? Yes, you were like all about it. You work out so much.

So, but there's truth to that. Like it definitely makes you feel better. So like you know what, the people that run. Is there a tonin right? Whatever. I don't know what the chemical is, but there's truth to that and it just makes you have a happier, people that run. Is there a tonin', right? Whatever, I don't know what the chemical is, but there's truth to that, and it just makes you have a happier, more fulfilling life. And that's why I've been working out, I literally been working out four days every week for the past three weeks, and I'm pretty proud of myself.

Hey, you babe. Thank you. I'm not at your level though, you do five, which is crazy. I've been doing six recently, because I've just been walking. What? So.

Yeah, I think what I'll do, if I yell bagels and run out the door, I'll probably either run one wheel. You're in a one wheel. A one wheel. I love to just like blast some EDM music in one wheel. Or I think what I could do is maybe, maybe I just go outside and write a song.

Because I think music. Also, they're so sorry, go ahead. No, you're good. Music really helps you. Yeah, music is like therapy for me. I was just saying, if you need to take a break for yourself as a parent no matter how old your child is, that's far better than having a meltdown

in front of your children. Exactly. So there should be no shame attached to. And also, it is definitely a privilege that we're able to have rely on the other spouse or rely on somebody else to fill in the gaps and we need a minute for ourselves. But it's even okay.

I don't know why people shame people for that. Totally. And I think I realized this too, like on that same note, if you're truly like not okay and you suspect you might do something that's like that you'll later regret. Like, you know, if you have a crying newborn, like set your newborn down in their bassinet

or whatever it is, and just like maybe set a timer for like five or 10 minutes just to like, you know, play some calming music and just relax or something, because like you don't wanna end up making some poor decision, like, I don't know, like potentially, like there's moments in- That's drastic. I know drastic, but like there's moments in parenthood

where you like need to set your kid down a walkway because it can get really intense. It can get really, really intense with like the constant- Well, maybe I'm a parent-head, but like a newborn hood. Yes, yes. Because those, you know, like babies in that stage need 24-7 monitoring and they cry a lot and they poop a lot

and it can be a lot. So I think like remembering that is good. But with me and you and your parents and we have like a whole, we have a whole squad. So it's going to, I feel like we're pretty set up for success. We're in our family here too. Yeah. My parents are coming in, so that's just like,

we're very fortunate to have that. My brother and his wife, like everyone will be here, so it'll be really sweet. Yeah. I say this all the time, like I'm so impressed with single parents, because I don't know how to do it. I have, yeah, I mean, they're truly incredibly hardworking people. Are you worried at all for the C-section?

I'm truly not. I mean, obviously there's a healthy amount of like, I know that there's risks involved with bringing, like with birth and specifically risks to C-sections, but I mean, I really feel so confident in our medical team and I know that so many women get C-sections and yeah, I feel really good about it. Yeah.

Thanks to setting the day also just made it, I'm like more than anything I'm just excited for that day. Like I don't- Two weeks. Two weeks for today. Two weeks for today. I'm curious to know what it feels like because- Really?

Yeah. I can't decide if I'm in like really like peak and like look at the surgery going on. I don't care what you do. I mean- I kind of want to but then I'm like I also- I mean I'm not the type of person to- I like peak and like look at the surgery on on. I don't care what you do. I mean. I kind of want to, but then I'm like, I also, I mean, I'm not the type of person to pass out. I want you to also look at me. Totally.

I'm not the type of person to pass out, but I'm like, would I, would I get like- I think it'd be sweet if you peaked over, like right before they pull them out. That would be cool. I think it'd be a shame if you didn't see it. You'd be upset that you didn't see that. The people actually have clear curtains

so that they can see their C section. Like you can actually request that. I've heard that you can. I don't know, it probably depends on your hospital. Because that would be wild. I personally don't want to watch it as it's happening. That would be wild to see it as it happens. I mean, I've kind of gotten to a point where I'm like that

it's just so fascinating to me. I like to look at. I'm having racks and hicks or no. Oh no, I'm sorry. How does it feel? It just feels like slight pressure. Does your body just kind of do it Staying you kind of just wait till it's over. Yeah, and there's nothing you can do But that's why it's exhausting because it's like imagine your body is like kind of I think the only comparison

I can do is like pretend like you're in a crunch. Yeah for like 45 seconds every minute or so Dang is that more your uterus or is that more your abs when you get a brach's and hick? I think it's my uterus I don't really actually know Wow, I mean I can't control your uterus or is that more your abs when you get a Braxton Hick? I think it's my uterus. I don't really actually know. Wow. I mean, I can't control my uterus. Sorry, keep going over time. That was really funny when you told me about the person that thought their sister was naming their kid Braxton Hick.

Yeah, then you said that tick-tock. It was, she was telling her brother, I think, which is such a brother thing. She's like, I'm having a Braxton Hick. Or something about like, or I was having Braxton Hicks But now I'm in like some like that and then he's like oh thinking like she accidentally slipped to the baby's name Yeah And she's like what and then he's like I didn't know you did not the name yet and she's like we haven't that's so

Braxton Braxton's kind of a cute name though. I kind of like it. Hey, sorry for the interruption We just wanted to say it would mean so much to us if you just took two seconds to share this podcast with someone in your life. Maybe share it with someone that is pregnant. I think they could gain a lot from this episode or someone that's had a baby already or wants to have a baby or someone that doesn't want children and needs to be reminded why. They hit them too. It could be funny, you know, if you share this with that family member that like doesn't want to talk about having kids

and then you like share it with them, just kidding again, don't do that. That would not be cool. Okay. Yeah. That's the episode. That's the episode. How is intimacy going?

It's definitely different. Definitely. Definitely very different. I mean, it's not going to be the most wild times of our lives. Yeah. I mean. Yeah, that's true. It's short lived though, it's temporary.

What's weird though, back to like pregnancy is being different. That whole intimacy thing was definitely different with the first pregnancy versus the second pregnancy. How so? Because like in the first pregnancy, I think you like, it kinda hurt. And I think with the second one. How so? Because like, in the first pregnancy, I think you've, like, it kinda hurt. And I think with the second one, not so much.

Yeah, I would say that's true. Yeah, which is really interesting. I think this time, it's a little bit better. Definitely, oh, definitely. Like, yeah. Yeah, not like better than not being pregnant. Yeah. But like, better than the first pregnancy. Yeah. But like better than the first one.

Yeah. I mean, it's obviously like, at this point, it's your limited to the activities that can happen. I'm impressed you've still been able to make that happen with that massive belly of yours. Okay, let's wrap it up. But what in the acrobatics? But no, Matthew.

But I'm just saying like, it's just, it's also here, here's the thing I can add to it. It's pretty romantic that we made a baby together. It is. And so that kinda adds- It's pretty romantic. Something different. Yeah.

Anyway, let's move on. I feel like the intimacy thing is like so hard to talk on because it's so different for everybody. And I feel like we had expectations set up because of what other people said. And then we were disappointed. And so it's like, yeah, if your wife is pregnant, just have a race because they're they're experiencing their body in a whole different way. What do you pack in your hospital bag with Griffin that you'll leave at home

this time around? I would say pretty much everything. No, I, I didn't, I'm not gonna bring any pads or anything because I know the hospital provides all of that. They provide diapers, which I think I brought some diapers last time. It's crazy to me. I feel like you packed this massive bag for the hospital

and I feel like we even use half this stuff in the day. How do I use that? Because I did use, like I used all my toiletry stuff. I used my comfy out. I was out of the gown. as soon as I could get that off I put it on comfy clothes that I felt more myself in overkill though Like did you really need your own gown? Was it better? Well? Oh that the gown that I brought for

No, I think I could just wear the gown that they had but since it was sent to me I was like oh wear it and it was it was nice But it got dirty so then I had to change into another gown that was theirs anyway So I mean I wasn't wearing that the whole time It was nice to wear it for the time that I had because it was come fear than the other one Yeah, especially because they don't like you wear a bra during labor and everything Yeah, I wanted one because I just felt so much odd rubbing Yeah, I don't I won't be bringing any like postpartum care stuff or baby care stuff because it's it's all provided by the hospital. Is it possible to shave down below?

Yeah, I wanted to give a plug for my YouTube video that I made. You want to make a plug for your go ahead and make a plug? And you want to know what I packed in my hospital bag? Yes. Check out our YouTube channel. Go watch Abby's hospital bag YouTube video. It's out. If not, it'll be out soon. Okay. Just go check for it. Is it possible to shave down below? It's very, it's blind. You're completely blind. How have you done that? Or do you like, do you need assistance? Yes, I have done that.

Do you need assistance at all? I'm always here to help. Matthew, I appreciate you. You have done that. Oh my gosh, I did. I totally forgot about that. But that wasn't necessarily shaving. That was more of like, clippers, you know what I'm saying?

You, okay, I don't know. You got it pretty better, okay? Yeah, I did a pretty good job. Anyway, yeah, it's just blind. Yeah. It's honestly kinda dangerous. That is dangerous. Seeing you shave your legs,

I'm like, how do you not cut your whole entire leg when you shave? Cause you go so fast, you're like, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, like your hand just flies at the speed of like light. I'm like, how are you not cutting your body? Cause when I shave my face, I go very slow. Like your face is so much more sensitive in your legs.

No, but like other places too. I've seen you shave other places, and in those places, you also go equally fast. Are you referring to the business? I'm referring to the business. I go fast there? Yes, you go fast everywhere. Also, why are you watching me?

I don't know. I've been married to you for over four years. I've seen the thing or two in the time that we've been married. But it got a little bit too comfortable. I think that you need to slow down on the speed of your shave. Like, no wonder. I haven't cut myself. Every once in a while though,

you'll have like a bloody wound on your leg. I'm like, this is why this happens. Like, you shaved so fast. I cannot remember the last time that happened. It's a problem. It happened to me a lot in like middle school. It's okay though. One time I posted a text talk and me shaving and then people were roasting me in the comments

for how I shaving wrong. So I kind of suck at shaving too. So it's okay. I'm not saying I suck at shaving. I'm not saying that you suck at shaving. I'm so good at it that I can do it that fast and not come at all. You're hilarious. I think a lot depends on the razor too. You know. Yeah, I like those joy-like joy razors for Target because I got like a sensitive skin razor and that helps a lot depends on the razor too. Yeah, I like those joy-raizers for Target. Because I got a sensitive skin razor and that helps a lot with my face shaving. And before I used to have not one of those and I would cut my face all the time. Yeah, you should honestly try out my sensitive skin razors

if you want. You could always try that. I do use your razors a lot. But just let me know so don't use it back on my face. No, I use all my armpit and then I put it back where it was. You are a jerk. I'm literally... I'm literally...

I literally will use it all my pitors and then put it back. Are you kidding me? So I've been shaving my face with your armpit razors. Why do you do that, not totally? If we're traveling and I can't find my razor, I didn't pack it. Why can't you just like, like bar, like can you just label it? Can you just have one that says armpit on it? And then I know that that's the razor head for your armpit But no because I'm only using it when I forgot my razor and you probably only have one but then I'm getting your bo all from my face

Yeah, no wonder I get acne No, you don't get acne there anyway. I literally have it I have like a little pimple between your eyebrows. I don't share between my eyebrows But I'm sure that could have been caused by me using a razor that between your eyebrows. Do you shave between your eyebrows? I don't shave between my eyebrows, but I'm sure that could have been caused by me using a razor that has your bio on it. Whatever. Do you feel excited or sad for the end? Both, which is kind of surprising.

Yeah. Mostly excited, but there is, I will never forget after I had Griffin, it was the most crazy mixed emotions that I ever had my life, because I was so happy to hold him in my arms. I dreamed of what my son was going to look like and what it would feel like to hold him. And then I also felt like I think it's the hormones afterwards, but I felt like this sadness that I wasn't pregnant with him anymore.

And so because it's such a unique, like, special miraculous time. So I feel both, but mostly, like like extremely excited to meet this little guy. I already feel so connected to him. Like I feel like I understand his personality. Yeah. And like he's just still in utero. He's a cutie. He's a cutie.

He's a cute kid. Do you think Oggi is gonna look more like me or you? I would love a little baby Matt, but we've kind of talked about how... I think looking at the ultrasound photos, I think he looks way more like Griffin. I think they're an old-like twins. It's really hard to tell for ultrasound photos, but I did see a strong resemblance between just the face shape. Griffin, and it's crazy how much your brother as a baby looks just like Griffin.

I just think I think they're going to both look like that, and it'll be really cute. I'm excited to have two little boys that are practically twins, but they're not twins I always say we if we want Some like one of our kids to have Matt's likeness in my we might have to have a girl. Oh, yeah Because I always feel like this the son's favorite the mom the daughter's favorite the dad What do we think this baby's in a way? Kicking so much. Oh gosh Let me feel I would say Eight and a half to nine. Whoa. yeah, you are getting some kicks right now. I would be surprised if he's nine pounds.

I would say like, you don't think so. I think it can easily be nine pounds. A week early. I was nine pounds two ounces. I don't know. I don't, I just don't feel like, I also like, I'm also very hesitant to talk about weight, especially during pregnancy. So I'm not going to give like, like, real numbers pregnancy. So I'm not gonna give like real numbers, but, because I just know it can be a sensitive subject, but I did gain slightly less weight this time. Yeah. So I don't know if that's gonna translate also

to having a slightly less heavy baby. That's true. So be interesting. I feel like this baby's gonna be eight pounds, six ounces, that's my guess. Were you more attached to me when labor was approaching with Griffin? Oh, yeah. Don't you think? Oh, yeah, I would say so. I just felt like you were like my safety person. Yeah. I feel like that now too. Like I just want you to be with me like all the time. Yeah. Like you want to take a nap after this? I'm like kind of tired actually. We can't we're gonna go see our...

Oh my gosh. our niece or nephew. Her niece or nephew. That's right. We're getting a cake. We're gonna get a little poster board. Griffin got them some binkies. Because they did that for us when we came home with, it's still hanging for two.

It's still hanging for two. Yeah, we came home with our first born. My brother and sister-in-law had this whole setup for us when we arrived home, so we need to go, that goes to do something fun for them. That'd be cool to like bring them a cake and I don't know if we have time to make a poster board. Are we gonna do anything like that?

We are for sure doing that. Oh, we're doing a poster board. Yes. Okay, are you in charge of this? Because- I've already taken the reins. Wow. Do we have the poster board in this house?

Yes. Okay, good. I'm excited to make it. Would you say I'm kind of clingy, Matt? Yes, yes. I think we've always been a little bit clingy. I think I love being with you all the time more than you Want to be with me. Well, I think I'm just I think I'm more comfortable being alone like I'm okay being alone Yeah, maybe I have some issues and just like yeah, I don't know I'm I am very comfortable being alone

Which I've which I've been shocked by like I'm a very people I'm a people person You're a social person. I'm very social, but I am very okay being alone. Like I'm a very people, I'm a people person for sure. You're a social person. I'm very social, but- You're very okay being alone. I am very okay being alone. See, I am not okay being alone. I don't really love being alone. Sometimes I need it, but Merle, do I want it?

And usually like it's if I'm working on some sort of like art, like if I'm working on a song or if I'm working on a video. You're very independent. Yeah, like to be independent and just kind of do my thing and like create something. That's where I'm from. But I cling to you during like transitions because you just make me feel like so safe.

You're like my constant. So I just like want you to be there when things feel like more out of hand in my life or out of my control. Do you avoid lace shoes or does Matt treat you like a queen and tie them for you? I mean, I can still tie my own shoes, but if you're there, I much prefer you

to put my shoes on for me, so you don't have to lie. I am the shoe guy. I pretty much always do that. When we're going out, now I tie your shoes for you. I know, but every morning when I go to the gym, you're still asleep, and so I'm still, I'm still wearing shoes of the gym, you know? That's true.

Okay, I'm gonna expose Matt Howard. Oh my gosh, what am I gonna say? What am I gonna say? What am I gonna say? Matt is sleep talking about Matt Howard. Oh my gosh, what am I gonna say from last night? What are you gonna say? Matt is sleep talking about the podcast. Oh my gosh. He cares so much about this you guys. So that means that you really should give it a five stars like subscribe.

I have worked really hard on the podcast this year. You worked so hard on it. But it's like it's occupied you even in your sleep. It's funny. He literally turned over to me last night. He's like it's a long grab of soap, but I think we need to start putting in more of those. And I was like, what are- it was 1am.

I was like, what are you talking about? I said, are you talking about the podcast? You're like, yeah. And I said, are you listening to it right now? And you said, no. I literally don't remember this conversation at all. You've been kind of wacky when you're sleep recently. That's hilarious.

Yeah, and I'm not going to tell the other story when you got mad at me while you were sleeping. Oh my gosh, that's so sad. I'm sorry. You also are a little bit more of a grumpy gust when you wake up in the middle of the night. Can we just be honest? We both are.

We both are a little bit. No, no, no, no, no, when I wake up in the middle the night I wake up completely coherent. You are waking up in a like twilight state so you don't really understand what's going on ever. Ever. And so then you just are like, why are you so mean? I'm like, I don't remember this, by the way. Okay, you don't really understand what's going on ever and so then you just are like why are you so me I'm like I don't remember this by the way

I don't remember saying anything about our podcast I was a grumpy gust and then I'm like I'm not you're just wacky at night How do you feel or how do you deal with body image change your body change a lot in the past nine months How do you how do you deal with that? How do you approach that? Gosh, it's such a complicated thing right because I feel like I have mixed emotions about it like everything Like most of the time I'm like wow I'm so Focused on what my body has done for me that I'm not worried about what it may How it may look different than it was but then there's other times'm like, I'm allowed to feel a little bit like,

I miss my old body. Like, that's not, there's nothing so wrong with that. Yeah. You know, I miss the way that it looks or I miss the... You miss the what? What's the word, perkiness? The perkiness of the girls? Yes. In the lack of like extra skin, stretch marks, like all, everyone gets those things. It's crazy how when you're pregnant, your belly gets so big so that the girls just literally rest on top. Do not paint that image for them. That is disgusting. Sorry.

What's wrong with that? That's just the reality. That's not a beautiful image. I think it's beautiful. I personally think it's great. I like it. But it's also still light-hearted enough that disappointment I'm able to talk about it and make jokes about it's great. I like it. But it's also like still light-hearted enough that like disappointment

I'm able to talk about it and make jokes about it. It's not that serious and I think that really it does make me feel Womanly like my the transition my body has gone through I do feel like so much more of a woman because of it So it's like it has it's providence conscious. Yeah, so this is our last podcast before the birth any final thoughts that you want to put out there any any I don't know anything else you want to say. I'm just saying I feel so excited for this experience And I feel whoa, he's just like I'm ready to be here. He's kicking a lot I'm so excited to hold him in my arms. I'm so excited to go to the hospital that day and just do the play it back Like we did last year and then I'm so excited mostly for the two of our boys to meet.

Yeah. And so it's really, I just feel so, I really feel grateful, excited, hopeful, confident. Well, if you guys haven't already shared the podcast with your friend or her. Share this with someone that's pregnant. Yeah, we talked about pregnancy a lot on this. I guess most of our listeners are women, so that kind of makes sense. Anyway, we love you guys.

This was really fun to do and yeah, until next time. Three, two, one. Peace out, dudes. DUDES!