The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Going bald, Abby’s workout routine, and losing to senior citizens in pickleball

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Matt & Abby dive into Matt's hair journey with male pattern baldness, Abby’s fitness routine, and how she got in great shape. Matt also shares a hilarious story about losing to senior citizens in a ...pickleball match! This episode is sponsored by Article, Rocket Money, Lume & ZocDoc. Article: Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more. To claim, visit https://article.com/UNPLANNED and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout. Rocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://RocketMoney.com/unplanned. Lume: Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @lumedeodorant and get 15% off with promo code UNPLANNED at https://LumeDeodorant.com! #lumepod ZocDoc: Go to https://Zocdoc.com/UNPLANNED and download the Zocdoc app for FREE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 your pillow has some hairs on it. You know how like people fly to Turkey to get hair loss surgeries? I'm definitely gonna do it at some point. Oh my. Because I'm gonna become bald. You know what? I would love you with a bald head. I would like to kiss that shiny bear skull of yours. I played pickleball against some senior citizens. I sent it a little too hard. I scraped my knee. You're so intense. I'm telling you I go hard. I didn't want these senior citizens to beat me in pickle ball. Everyone has been blown away by how jacked you look. What's your secret?
Starting point is 00:01:08 The only thing is that I'm consistent. My motivation for going to the gym is purely mental health. I just feel calm afterwards. What's up dudes? What's up dudes? And welcome back to the unplanned podcast. You guys, Abby smoked me in a pushup competition just like two weeks ago. I'm blown
Starting point is 00:01:26 away by how many push-ups you can do. It is actually insane. I was taking a break in between. At the end, I think I was doing like five at a time. But still though, place bets right now. Comment down below, how many push-ups do you guys think Abby did? I did 108. Okay. I feel like I can be proud of that number. Abby did 117. Maybe I had bad form though. No, I feel like I can be proud of that number Abby did a hundred and seventeen Maybe I had bad form though. No, you had great form. Really? You had really good form. Hmm. That's really impressive Maybe it's because I'm like lighter than you I have less weight to push up I think that you just well you work out more than I do. Yeah. Yeah, that's really in the butt
Starting point is 00:02:00 If I look weird on camera if you're watching on YouTube, I literally cannot turn my head right now I'm in so much pain because of the gym camera, if you're watching on YouTube, I literally cannot turn my head right now. I'm in so much pain because of the gym today. Which actually, it's not because of the gym. I mean, that's probably what set me over the edge, but I was already feeling like sore. Like last night we were playing, we had family game night.
Starting point is 00:02:18 We were playing code names with my parents and my brother and his wife. And I was like, who wants to rub my shoulders? No one took me up on it But it was because like my neck and shoulders were starting to feel really really tight which happens frequently to me I have a bad neck. I think I get it from my mom and then sure enough stay at the gym tweak my neck I actually tweaked my neck last time at the gym that I did pull-ups to okay great Yeah, I don't know why that is but sometimes just like on certain days
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah, you can feel it coming on to like I could feel it coming on You know what's about to happen and then always I'm to like, I could feel it coming on, you know, it's about to happen and then always I'm so dumb. I'm like it'll be fine. Whatever. I'll be fine and every single time boom and then my next like no, it was like the first workout I did of the day to like right after the warm-up that was the first thing I did and then I was like I'm gonna finish the workout but I like kind of modified some things because I didn't want to make it worse But I asked the trainer afterwards. I was like, what could that have been? She's like, oh, I do that all the time too.
Starting point is 00:03:07 It's really not necessarily something you did wrong, it's more like if you had a knot, which I always get knots. If you, sometimes some movements can push it over, like move the knot, I don't know. Doesn't it get worse throughout the day? You know, like at first, it kind of feels uncomfortable, but it just gets worse and worse and worse. It's gotten so much worse, Like I literally feel like if I
Starting point is 00:03:26 Allow myself to I could cry right now. It hurts so bad. I don't know what to do. Like I'm so sorry. I actually was I don't think I told you this yet. What are you doing tonight after the kids go to bed? Probably rubbing your neck probably. Actually, uh, no if you could just watch some water. I booked a massage. Oh, you booked a massage for yourself. Yeah, it's 7 45. Hey, yeah, I can do that. It's like if the kids are asleep, I don't think, you didn't have anything on the calendar, so I was like, I'll run it by Matt, but I'm gonna first secure this time slot. No, hey, I'm glad you're doing some self care,
Starting point is 00:03:51 that's awesome. Because last time this happened to me, which was literally earlier this year, I got a massage and it hurt really, really bad. It actually gave me a migraine, which we should also talk about that. I've been getting migraines, I'm falling apart. But I was getting a massage to get my neck back.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah. To get it back in place, what is it not in place, so I could not be in crippling pain. And I got a terrible migraine as they were working it out. So hopefully that doesn't happen tonight. Yikes. But I've been getting migraines too, like what is, I'm falling apart.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I'm so sorry. Migraines suck, dude. Migraines are the worst. Maybe you need to figure out if there's something in your life that's causing migraines Like maybe exactly what it is. What is it? I forget to eat. Oh, duh. Yes. Yes, that's definitely what it is But someone also commented and told me that it could be because I'm not like having enough sugar Like I feel like in the first half of my day like until dinner time I really don't have hardly any sugar and I feel like because I'm my I already run low on blood sugar. Yeah. I feel like it's dropping super low when I don't eat
Starting point is 00:04:53 and it's getting really yeah I think that's what's causing it really low blood pressure or blood sugar because when I've gotten it tested before they're always like are you okay and I'm like yeah I feel fine like oh you just have low blood sugar and I think it gets drastically lower when I don gotten it tested before they're always like are you okay? And I'm like yeah, I feel fine like oh you just have a low blood sugar And I think it gets drastically lower when I don't eat so I've been really trying to have lunch I just ate lunch how can how can we make sure that you eat throughout the day? I got factor meals that helped that's good. Yeah, maybe you like an alarm Maybe you could like set an alarm on your phone. Remember when you used to be lactose intolerant and then I would carry around lactose, lactate
Starting point is 00:05:28 in my wallet? What happened about that? I feel like it magically went away somehow for you, but you would always forget. Does that mean that it was always in my head? I don't think so. I feel like certain conditions like that can come and go, but I would keep lactate in my wallet at all times because you always forgot to bring it along with you.
Starting point is 00:05:43 That's you with excedrin migraine now. Yeah, I actually, yeah I do like when we're going on a trip I'm like I have to ask you I'm like did you pack your excedrin because you always forget and then we'll be in a situation where you have a migraine and there's no medicine. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I actually have always been a headache prone person even in elementary school. If I went to the nurse I would they would take my temperature and if I had a slight headache
Starting point is 00:06:05 It would be like if your temperatures like a like 99 point something They'll still try to send you home. My mom had to get a doctor's note for me So the nurse could keep ibuprofen in her office Instead of sending me home every time I had like a 99 degree fever. Gosh. Gosh Your mom I feel like your mom because she was a teacher, she probably found ways to work the system. No, I think they're pretty serious about administering medicine though. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah. But yeah, she probably did work the system in a couple ways. Here's the thing, as a kid of a parent that's a teacher, you spend so much more time in the school than anybody else that like it doesn't probably like a school building does not feel the same to you as it would for me. And you always got to eat the school like breakfast and lunches right? You did the breakfast too. Yeah. I would do school lunches sometimes but I never had breakfast at school. Like didn't you just have a diet of waffles in the morning like every single morning? I had school breakfast and school lunch
Starting point is 00:06:59 every day and I mean that was a good old days when you think about it like I was eating okay the main thing I loved at school please tell me if other people had these it was like a corn dog but it wasn't a hot dog it was a like a breakfast sausage wrapped in a pancake and you dipped it in syrup. See I never got into those I never got into those. They had them at your school too? They did I feel like every school had those pancake wrapped sausage links on a stick. That was like- Did you have the square pizza? At some point, yes.
Starting point is 00:07:33 What about the smiley potatoes? Did you have spicy chicken sandwiches? That was like my high, like at least in high school, that's what we had. No. Oh, we had nachos supreme. In high school, I literally think about my diet in high school. I had nachos supreme. Oh, okay. literally think about my diet in high school. I had nachos supreme
Starting point is 00:07:48 Okay, imagine this I am I was a Palmer So if it was a game day, I was wearing my tiny little palm uniform And I would go and get nachos supreme a double order. I would order a double nachos supreme And eat all that and just be in my little tights and shorts skirt all day And I didn't have a second. I didn't have a care in the world. I would probably still do that today. Just like eat whatever I want. I also ate, I remember eating, like the things I ate before I went to dance
Starting point is 00:08:13 where I was literally dancing and just like a little leotard. I'm like, what in the world was I thinking? I was just so carefree as a kid. I was always complimented for how much I could eat. Yeah, same. Like it was almost a competition for me. Like how much food can I shove into my body? It was a flex. Like I remember my dad telling somebody, he's like, gosh, you ate a whole foot long. And I think it was in like first or second grade after dance practice.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I literally, I apparently eat a whole foot long. I'm like, okay, cool. That was extreme. And then I felt kind of proud of myself. Isn't it crazy now that prices have gotten so inflated that like for five, that like the $5 foot long that used to exist when we were kids, you can't even get like a beverage sometimes for $5. Go to Cold Stone, you're dropping like 20 bucks for you and your partner. Yeah, I don't support that.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Cold Stone's way overpriced. Every scoop they put into your Cold Stone ice cream is like over a dollar. And so even just a tiny scoop of sprinkles, a dollar, a tiny scoop of like, what's like the cheapest toppings that for them, like even just like a little scoop of mini chocolate chips, dollar. So then it just kept adding up. It was so expensive.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It's easy to do though. When they price it like that. Abby on a lot of my videos on TikTok, on Instagram recently, everyone has been blown away by how jacked you look. They're like, wow, like she is fit. How do I look like her? And so I feel like this would be the perfect opportunity to ask you, how do you look so good?
Starting point is 00:09:37 What's your secret? This is why, do you know, I haven't, I've been, first of all, very flattered. Let me say that first and foremost, that's very kind of y'all to say that. Second of all, I have not been trying to like, keep anything a secret. I just, there's so many reasons why I haven't like,
Starting point is 00:09:54 wanted to talk about it, or like, haven't been able to find out how to put it into words. The main reason being that I don't do anything special. I literally don't do anything special. The only thing is that I'm consistent. I'm consistent with exercise and I'm consistent with diet, but I don't follow any specific diet. I literally eat every single food and I don't follow any specific workout routine other than I do burn boot camp most the time. I feel like you have good self-control when it comes
Starting point is 00:10:20 to dessert though. But see here's the thing, I don't even feel like I'm exercising self control. Like I satisfy every craving I have, but I also just make sure that I'm getting well rounded nutrient dense meals, if that makes sense. So then I don't find myself craving as much like things that don't have as much nutrition to them. Does that make sense? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 So like I will have a well rounded dinner like last night for instance, we had rice, shrimp, mango salsa, and then afterwards I was like, and I had an Ollie pop to drink with it, and so that was kind of sweet, so then I was like, I'm pretty satisfied because that meal filled up my tummy, it satisfied everything I wanted, I had like a little sweetness, a sweetness little savory and then afterwards I was like
Starting point is 00:11:06 okay well I might have a little dessert so I had a few Twizzlers and then I was like fine but I didn't feel like at any point that that I was like restricting myself. Does that make sense? Okay that's my concern why Twizzlers I feel like if you're gonna pick a candy that probably is the most nasty. No I agree Twizzlers are not good. Why is why are Twizzlers a thing? I don't know. Who actually eats those? My dad will eat Twizzlers are not good. Why is why are tip Twizzlers a thing? I actually eat those my dad will eat Twizzlers and black licorice. I have never understood How you eat in a Twizzler? Yes, and they're nasty. Yeah, they don't taste good But there's something addicting about them, right? Like you eat them and you're like, no I gotta have another for me that would be like, you know, the airheads like the sour the sour strips
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Starting point is 00:13:30 But I, yeah, I don't know. I don't understand why licorice. No, I just had that because it was around. Cause my mom got that for game night. And so since it was there, I was like, ah, I'll try that. Yeah. But yeah, so with workouts, I don't lift extremely heavy. I don't work out for more than 45 minutes to an hour.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I just work out five times a week. And I really am flexible with it. Like if I need to do a workout somewhere else, I will. It's just more important that I stay consistent. And yeah, I don't have any, that's the thing, I don't have any specific regimen to sell anyone or any specific plan I could easily package up and share with everyone.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It's just that I know what works for me and I know what is possible for me to be consistent with and that's group fitness because they have childcare that my kids love first and foremost. Second of all, I love having a start time to a workout so I'm like I will be there then and then that just helps with accountability. I love that it's 45 minutes and some classes I do are an hour
Starting point is 00:14:36 but burn specifically is 45 minutes so I just like know that it's gonna be jam packed. I'm not gonna waste any time. I'm gonna get a good workout. I don't wanna think when I go to the gym. Like girls that go to the gym, that just like figure out their own routine, I'm like, that's very impressive, it's not for me.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It's not something that I could be consistent with, it's overwhelming. I don't know what to be doing at gym, so I love group fitness, because they tell us what to do. I love, it's like my social hour. I have so many friends here, I have a new friend at the gym named Claudia, I love her.
Starting point is 00:15:02 She's got chickens and she invited us over so the boys can play with. Yes. Wow. Okay. So I mean, I just love getting to talk to other, mostly moms, but other women in general. And I love the community aspect. I think the workouts are fun.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Does Claudia live on a farm? No, she lives in Gilbert. Okay. How do you have chickens then? If you're not on a farm? Because it's Gilbert. What? You can have chickens in Gilbert. That's crazy. Okay, wow. I just have a lot of friends there. The kids love it. I love it. The only problem is that it is over 30 minutes away from my house. So that is a little bit of a bummer and it takes a lot of time but for me, here's the other thing that I want to tell you about. I truly work out not for a certain physique. That's where I
Starting point is 00:15:48 think people are confused with me. Like I do appreciate people complimenting my body. A lot of that pretty much has to do with genetics I would say and obviously consistency in diets, multifaceted, but a lot of that is you know what you're born with. with. But my motivation for going to the gym is purely mental health. I obviously, of course, want to take care of my body and keep it healthy, so that's part of it too. So I shouldn't say it's purely mental health. But the biggest part is mental health.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I enjoy it, it's fun, and I know that while it's hard in the moment, there's so many endorphins released when you're working out that I just feel calm afterwards. Like, yeah. I don't feel calm afterwards. That's nice. Yeah. I don't feel that way. You don't feel that way? I just feel like when I push myself too hard, I'm like, gosh, why did I do that?
Starting point is 00:16:32 No, I feel so much satisfaction. I'm like, I just did that hard thing. What a celebration of my body and everything that I can do. I feel strong. I feel powerful. I feel ready to take on the rest of my day. I feel that way if I don't push myself too hard, but like the really competitive person inside of me sometimes pushes myself to this limit where
Starting point is 00:16:51 like when I've gone to your group fitness class, right? Like I've been there and the coaches, they push you, right? Like you get the workout done early and they're like, oh, no, no, no, go back and do like two more rounds. Yeah. Just, just to mess with you, just to, you, just to play a reverse UNO card on you. So every time I've gone to your workout class, I walk out like, I feel like crap, I feel like crap. You know, it's not the good feeling that I get
Starting point is 00:17:16 if I don't overexert myself. You know what I think about you, Matt? What? I think you might not be in tune with your body. That could be it. That's why you wanna eat like seven cookies at once. You're like, how do you just have one cookie? And I'm like, because I'm in tune with my body.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Apparently it's an ADHD thing. Apparently people with ADHD have a dopamine, like a lower amount of dopamine. And by eating sugary foods, you can like up it. That's what I thought. I'm sorry, I didn't understand. I saw that in the comment section of something. So I don't know if that's exactly true.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Well, that's all I need to know. But it sounded pretty accurate to me. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, so it's probably true, honestly. I'm sorry, okay, so nevermind. Yeah. Well, I was saying that you weren't in tune with your body, also in the sense of not knowing your limits in a workout,
Starting point is 00:17:57 but for me, I do kind of play it safe in a workout because I work out so often. I'm like, I don't want to hurt myself so much that I can't go the next day, you know? Yeah, that's totally you. But that's also what's good about Burn is that their whole workout regimen is designed a week at a time. So it's designed really so you could do it every single day. And not like exhausting one muscle group.
Starting point is 00:18:17 But I also did tweak my neck today. So that's something else to think about. But I've done that doing literally so many other types of workouts. I'm so sorry. And it was literally just my own body weight. I wasn't lifting weights. It was just doing a pull-up.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I've been afraid that I've taught- It's because of you, honestly. You gave me so much confidence. So I played pickleball against some senior citizens about a week and a half ago and they smoked me. They like absolutely crushed me. It was me and my buddy and he's really good. Like I came in thinking that I was gonna be good
Starting point is 00:18:44 because I played someone in pickleball a month ago and smoked them. And so I just had so much confidence thinking, wow, like I'm actually good at this game. Oh no, oh no. Like showed up on a Saturday morning. It was like seven o'clock in the morning. So many people over 60 were just sending it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Like going so hard on these pickleball courts. And they demolished me. And it was during that game that I sent it a little too hard. I scraped my knee. So here, I'll show you guys my knee. I scraped it. Oh my gosh, you never showed me that. I've seen that, but I didn't know where you got it from.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Yeah, I dived for the pickleball. And I- I didn't know that was where you got that. I scraped it. And so I ended up hurting my knee. You're so intense. I'm telling you, I go hard. I didn't want these senior, senior citizens to beat me in pickleball.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And then I thought I tore my meniscus because this is the knee that I tore the meniscus on. Oh my gosh. What was this? 10 years ago. Um, and it immediately started to like feel painful. It felt unsteady. It's been a week and a half. I haven't gone to the doctor yet. I probably should have, but it's feeling better. So I wonder if I just like tweaked something else
Starting point is 00:19:50 that wasn't my meniscus, but I'm just keeping a close eye on it because I really, I really, really, really do not. I do not want to get a surgery. Like I just, I hate it. Like I think there's very few times in my life that I like that I've been like low key depressed. And that I think there's very few times in my life that I've been like low-key depressed and that was one of them was when I tore my meniscus and I
Starting point is 00:20:09 was stuck in bed for like two months. I just couldn't do anything because you can't walk. I mean that's hard. Yeah. So, but you know, you get through it. You figure it out. That is really tough. Yeah. Well, don't feel too bad because I feel like those senior citizens, while I'm proud of them, they have a lot of time to dedicate to working on their pickleball craft. That did make me feel better because they did admit to me that they've been playing like every single day for three years and I was like I've only played this game three times so it made me feel better about myself. Don't beat yourself up too hard. But it was also kind of cool because when you see older people just live in life and doing their thing, you realize how much life you have to live.
Starting point is 00:20:51 You know, like there's there's cool stages in every season. And I just love that. It was like all these senior citizens were high schoolers, you know, just mingling and they had their their cliques and their groups. Were they flirting? But they were all very friendly. I didn't see any flirting, but I'm sure it goes on. I'm sure that's a thing. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah. That's such an interesting, I guess it's kind of like Golden Bachelor vibes where you're like... I know. Right? For some reason that weirds me out, but it shouldn't. I mean, they're just people too, right?
Starting point is 00:21:25 We're all just humans at the end of the day. And I think we're all more alike than we are different. And people who are older, yeah, they've lived more life, but they still have the same wants and desires that us young people do. No, I know. Well, also no though, because your grandma didn't wanna remarry.
Starting point is 00:21:42 You know what's really weirding me out is I'm seeing kids graduate high school now that when I was like entering high school slash in middle school, like they were itty bitty. Like I'm talking like pipsqueaks, okay? They were barely even potty trained and now they're graduating high school and it's really making me realize how old we're getting. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Which is weird because I feel like if I were to like if someone were to tell me how old are you my knee-jerk reaction is to say 22. Yeah I would say I would say 22 feels about right. It's like there's a four year gap. That is weird Matt like this is gonna sound like overly romantic but or like or like cheesy, but it feels like my, I'm trying to find a way of saying this that like puts it to words, but like my memories like start so vividly, or I guess there was such a big shift when we met.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Like when we started dating, like it's like before we started dating and then like once we were together. Like I feel like I could go back to that exact same mental state when I was 17 and know exactly how I felt then. But like 16 I'm like I don't know that feels young but 17 I'm like I was an adult. You know what made me feel really old was I just saw this TikToker make a video like come with me to set up my senior apartment like my senior year dorm room or whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And like this girl was someone that we had followed on TikTok from 2020 when we first started. And we had seen her go into her freshman year, right? So now like it's the, so like I've been out of school for that long. I've been out of college since 2020. And here this girl is like going to her final year. That made me feel really old because in my head
Starting point is 00:23:25 I still feel like I'm college aged in a way, but I'm really not well If you were a super senior you could still be in super super super Yeah, there's people that go to college at 26 happens Yeah, if people like served a mission or something after college then or after high school Then they would definitely then they'd probably be graduating high school around, or college around this time. Yeah, that's true. That's a really good point.
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Starting point is 00:25:34 rocketmoney.com slash unplanned. Rocketmoney.com slash unplanned. I've seen a lot of TikToks of people saying that they feel like the show doesn't represent Mormons overall. Yeah, they're saying that, but they also haven't seen the show because the show's not released. That's true. But based on the trailer, I'm like, I can see where they're coming from.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I think probably the marketing, right? Yeah. I think like if you look at the marketing for the show and you look at how they're trying to hook people and get people interested, that's probably what it is. And I think people that are actually Mormon are saying, okay, like I don't really agree with this. I don't feel like this is something
Starting point is 00:26:10 that represents me and my beliefs. So that's what I've seen like a lot of TikToks. Well, I asked one of my friends who is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is my first sign. That's my first sign that this show isn't probably like representative of the majority of the members of the church because They don't go by Mormon anymore. Yeah, I think and they don't even go by LDS anymore
Starting point is 00:26:30 They officially go by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints So well, I think they just say LDS because that's a lot simpler and easier I know but they didn't even say LDS in the title. They didn't even say LDS in the title. They said Mormon Wives So you know what they're doing? It's reality TV, so they're using that term for marketing purposes. Well, I'm just saying, I'm using that as my data for understanding how accurate they're trying. Obviously, it's a TV show and it's reality TV. I do feel bad for the members that are devout members of the church and how they could be
Starting point is 00:27:02 like, this is not this is actually very contradictory to like what our church preaches. Yeah. I can understand that but then I can also understand these women that felt confined by their religious you know I can see both sides. Yeah. But I just do think you need to be careful if you're going to use like the group's name. You know, I guess they didn't really use the name though. Like I pointed out earlier, I don't know. I'm interested to see it and to like learn more, especially because we're like mutuals with some of the people that are on the show. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:27:35 We are. I know like Michaela Matthews is on the show. We've been mutual friends with her on TikTok. What's funny, you mentioned that reality TV show. I've been obsessed with owning Manhattan recently I don't know what it is, but it's a show on Netflix. It's similar to like selling sunset It's like a real estate show where they're like you have all these realtors and they're competing to sell You know this expensive area area of town like a hundred million dollars
Starting point is 00:28:00 It's just fascinating too because yeah like the show starts out and they're trying to sell a freaking penthouse for a quarter of a billion dollars, a billion with a B. Like, can you imagine having the money to buy a house for a quarter of a billion dollars? It's crazy. But you know, it's crazy is the show ended and they weren't able to sell it because even a billionaire doesn't want to spend a quarter of a billion dollars on a house. Like it's just even to them, they're like, that's crazy. Well also, what kind of loan do you get for that?
Starting point is 00:28:28 I don't know. That is, okay, that's the other thing about the show. Are they still putting 20 down? I want to know who these people are that are paying cash for their real estate because in the show everyone's like, oh yeah, I know that. 20 million cash. I know the penthouse suite is for 20 mil, but like I can do 15 cash. I'm like, how do you have $15 million in cash? Like did you sell your soul to the devil?
Starting point is 00:28:49 Like what you know what my theory is about those people what is that they're looking for the next high Because my feeling is that they have had money is no object to them clearly Yeah, and so then it's like well Why not like maybe just buying this massive unit in York City and prime real estate cash without seeing it Maybe that's my next like thrilling high and I feel like they're probably having a hard time like finding joy in More normal things than buying massively multi-million dollar units, but you know money actually does happen by happiness
Starting point is 00:29:22 It's it's proven money does buy happiness up to a certain point. Like once all your needs are met, you have food, water, shelter. Okay, but what is that point? Like decent healthcare. I wanna say, I think this study that I saw a couple years back was like,
Starting point is 00:29:38 money it's like up to like 70 grand or 100 grand. It's something there. Like because then- No, but you have to explain that. You have to explain it. Because essentially like, if you have enough money to go on one vacation a year and, you know, pay your bills, go out to eat every once in a while,
Starting point is 00:29:54 like do all these different activities that feel a little bit more on the luxury side of things. Right? Like going on vacation every year, like that's, you know, there's a lot of people that can't afford to go on vacation, right? So like, if you can afford to go on vacation, that's a huge blessing.
Starting point is 00:30:11 But like, there's diminishing returns, right? So if you go on two vacations a year, okay, that's now that's even more fun than one. But as you add more and more and more, it just has less of an effect on your life. And eventually it kind of all feels the same. And so I think that's why with I think truly that's why like, you know, money does buy happiness up to a certain point and then it doesn't anymore.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Then it's like your needs are met. So truly at that point, happiness is just a choice of like, do you want to have a positive attitude? Do you want to, you know, like just live a good life and be a good person? Because I think there's a lot of things that can bring joy that aren't financially related, like, you know, volunteering, doing something for somebody else.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I think those things can bring a lot of happiness and fulfillment into life. That makes sense. Because if you're worried about like literally your family eating dinner at night, then I can see where money definitely would bring happiness and like peace knowing that everyone's taking care of your family but then yeah like you said excess is like what's not necessary but I'm glad you explained that because I think just saying money buys happiness is not
Starting point is 00:31:20 exactly giving the full picture of what you mean, but I think it really boils down to its gratitude. I feel like just being grateful for things gets you a long way. I just had a brain fart. That's okay. We all have those. I just think that being grateful really helps you actually enjoy and appreciate what you have. So more isn't just more it's like yeah fulfilling what do you think about my new haircut I think it looks incredible I've got a fade what's her name Jen who does your hair Jen does my hair she's awesome out of the park Jen intimidated me at first right like she she's very
Starting point is 00:32:00 she's a tough lady you know and she And she knows it. I love that. But she's super chill, and we have a great conversation every time she cuts my hair. And yeah, I think she does a great job, so I keep going back. Wow, your hair's looking thicker. I know that you keep saying it's not true, but it does. It looks thicker. It visibly looks thicker.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It looks very nice. Do you know what it is? It's an optical illusion. See, I don't believe you. I think it's actually thicker. You think the medicine I'm taking is working to make my hair thicker? Honestly I don't think you're taking your medicine every day. I actually do take it every day. Okay then I think your medicine is working. I've done it every day for like two weeks
Starting point is 00:32:35 now so. Okay well don't they say it takes like six weeks? It takes like three to four months. Okay. Or five or six. So let's keep taking it. I'm just kidding. I think it looks really good. No so what I did is I set my hair loss medicine out by the sink so that every single morning when I'm brushing my teeth, I'm like, ah, I got to take my hair loss medicine. And then I take my finasteride pill. I take, I've been taking, oh my Lord, I'm like literally blinking. Molly dextrin? What the frick is the hair growth stuff that you take too?
Starting point is 00:33:04 Nutriful? Nutriful, I take Nutri-ful. Oh my God. It's like four horse pills, those pills are so big, but I take those four every morning, and then I have this foam, this minoxidil foam that I spray, it's basically an off, it's like the, not the off brand, but the, you know, it's Rogaine.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Like Rogaine was the big brand that made it popular, but basically it's just off-brand Rogaine. I rub it into my scalp, I put it on like my receding hairline on top of my head, and it says to just do like a tiny little dot but I put a crap ton of that stuff on my head. Like I'm definitely going to go through all that foam early. So I'll probably just have to order some extra. But that's what I do every single day for my hair. Didn't someone give you a red light to use on your head? I did um somebody we went to a med spa like three months ago I actually vlogged
Starting point is 00:33:54 that on my TikTok I did I got like a facial we both got facials it was kind of funny but they gave me this like red light cap for my head that I can apparently can stimulate hair growth I've never used it though. It feels a little woo woo. I want to try it. I feel like that would be kind of sick to try. Like it's just like a bunch of red lights that go on your scalp and apparently can stimulate your follicles. People lose me on some of that stuff sometimes. I'm like, I don't know about that. And you find it fun though.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Did you know that by posting, I was like sharing about my hair loss journey and some, I haven't looked into it, I need to look into it more, but some company in Turkey, you know how like people fly to Turkey to get hair loss surgeries? I'm pretty sure they're offering for me to come out and get one. Which that would be a freaking journey to fly all the way to Turkey and do that. I think I would have other concerns other than just the journey to Turkey. Yeah. I'm like why why aren't why do we have to go to Turkey for that? Like what? Well okay the thing is like- Is it illegal in the US? No I mean hair loss surgery you can get that done in the US but apparently it's like 90% cheaper in Turkey. So there's a ton of companies that do it there. Why is it cheaper? Just
Starting point is 00:35:03 because people in Turkey are willing to charge less than they do in the United States. But why are they willing to charge less? I don't know. I feel like we need to get some questions answered before we ship you off to Turkey. Maybe we should do some research on this first, but a lot of people do it. Like there's actually TikToks of all these dudes loading up into like an airplane and they all have like bandages on their head after they got their surgery. I'm happy for them but I don't think you need to do that. I think your hair looks amazing. I'm definitely gonna do it at some point.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Oh my. Cause I will, I will lose, I'm gonna become bald. Matt, you know what? I would love you with a bald head. I would not love me with a bald head. I would feel- I would like to kiss that shiny bear skull of yours. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I think I would just feel old with a bald head like I'm not always have bald and jacked I could do that But that requires a lot of working out and I don't know if I'm capable of being that consistent at the gym Yeah, well, then maybe you should then I look like mr. Clean. I'm gonna be honest with you I am kind of afraid of bald people and that's also part of it I feel like you would probably be afraid of me if I was bald I would you know why I'm afraid of your afraid of bald people because And that's also part of it. I feel like you would probably be afraid of me if I was bald. I would, but do you know why I'm afraid of bald people?
Starting point is 00:36:07 You're afraid of bald people because when you were a little kid, you babysat for a family and the dad yelled at you when you left their house because he thought that you did something wrong, which was crazy. I want to go, I need to go fight this dude. Thank you to Lumi for sponsoring this portion
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Starting point is 00:38:21 who was very, very well behaved. Obviously she wasn't much younger than me because I was 14. She was probably like nine yeah and they told me her bedtime and it was getting close to that time and I was like hey do you want to go to bed she's like yeah she was very sweet and so I trusted everything she said she's like oh and I was like okay I'm gonna turn lights off she said oh my parents let me read in bed sometimes but as long as I'm in bed by my bedtime then yeah they're okay with it.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And so I was like, that checks out with me. Like that seems right. And so I shut the door, the lights on, get home, or the parents get home, and the dad's like, why isn't she asleep? And he's like all mad at me. And I'm like, I'm so sorry. And I didn't want to get her in trouble.
Starting point is 00:38:59 So I was just getting all flustered and he was pretty angry and it scared me. And then the worst part is that obviously I couldn't drive so he had to drive me home and it was like probably a six minute drive. It's a small town but it felt like 60 minutes of him yelling at me and I'm stuck in this tiny car with him and I was very scared. It was basically a strange man yelling at me and that was like scarring. I got into my house and was like scarring. I got into my house, I was like sobbing. My dad got on the phone with this guy and ripped him a new one.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I'm surprised that your dad did that because your dad's a very shy guy. He is but he is a papa bear to the extreme. If it gets to the point where like he thinks that someone is like hurting a member of his family, like one of his his own he gets extreme like we got kicked out of a t-ball game oh my gosh because someone some ump said something to my mom that my dad thought was disrespectful we got thrown out of there I was modified I was literally like I can never show up in this town again yeah so my dad ripped that guy a new booty hole, and I never babysat him again.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I feel like that's pretty bad. If you're getting thrown out of a T-ball game, that's pretty bad. Really? Yes. Because my papa got thrown out of a lot of games. Oh my gosh. Actually, Blake's T-ball,
Starting point is 00:40:18 your little brother's T-ball games, your grandpa got thrown out. No, my dad's game. Oh, but get this, since my papa was an identical twin, one time they threw out his brother thinking it was him. Oh my gosh. And so papa got to stay and Jerry was like, or that's how the story goes.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That's hilarious. Anyway, that's why I'm afraid of bald guys. So maybe if anything, just get a toupee so I don't have to live in fear every single day of my life. I feel like that would be uncomfortable to wear though, to glue it to the top of your head. No, I bet it's something that you just go blind to.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I don't know. That's like me with my fingernails. It sounds weird to glue fake tips on your nails. I go blind to it. Anywho. But I saw those videos too. There's a toupee queen on Instagram and she literally just fixes toupees on people's head.
Starting point is 00:41:04 People that you never would have thought have a toupee queen on Instagram, and she literally just fixes toupees on people's head. People that you never would've thought have a toupee, have toupees, because they've gotten good at them. You know what I'm gonna do is- But then what if you wanna scratch your scalp? The thing that I've realized is I just need to get a haircut every month, because used to I would get a haircut every two months, maybe every three months,
Starting point is 00:41:22 and it would just get long and messy. And it looks better when we lived in Missouri and then moved to Hawaii, because those were both very humid places. Like my hair would, with the humidity, it would get kind of big. Like it would get kind of curly. It would have like-
Starting point is 00:41:36 Curly? It would have some style to it, you know? But living in the desert, it just falls flat, and it just looks very thin and wimpy and not full and it kind of Emphasizes the fact that like I'm losing my hair as a man with male pattern bald baldness So I think is there a female pattern baldness, but there probably is also is okay if I scrunch like this a little yeah You can I are you doing that for your neck? Yeah, your neck's hurting so you're gonna like sit back That's okay. A little bit sit. However is comfortable for you. No way is comfortable. There's
Starting point is 00:42:05 literally no comfort in this. I'm just gonna get haircuts every month. That's why I'm afraid of bald people. That's why Matt. That's why my dad got kicked out of my t-ball game. I just don't want my wife to be afraid of me so I'm gonna I'm gonna go get this surgery at some point. But here's the thing is if I feel like it'd be okay if it happened slowly. No I don't really want that. I'll be honest with you Matt, sometimes when I make the bed in the morning, your pillow has some hairs on it.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'm sure it does. I'm sure it does. Yeah, and it's gonna keep happening. But do you see the kind of hair I have in the shower? I am jealous of the hair that you have. You have such good hair. No, I don't like the hair falling out in the shower. Yeah, but like you have the thickest hair. Like your hair is so thick,
Starting point is 00:42:46 it's so full. Thank you. You're very lucky. I'm hairy everywhere though. I think that's a good thing. That's great. That sounded really creepy. I got laser hair because I'm less hairy. Oh my gosh. Well, so you went to go. Oh yeah. I was going to ask the same thing that you were about to say. We have telepathy. You asked to see it ends with us with me. I did. And what did I tell you? And you told me that you cried in the movie theater.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Well yeah, but I also said, I don't know if I can watch that again. Because it was so heavy. Like back to back, because it was so heavy. I saw it with my girlfriends, AKA my mom, and my two sister-in-laws. And it was like really fun. Also, my mom is so extra. She's so fun.
Starting point is 00:43:28 But she knew we were going to this movie and she's like, I'll pack snacks. So she snuck in these bento boxes from Amazon that she ordered just for this purpose. And each little container had a different type of snack in it, which is so my mom. If you know Lori, that is literally explains her perfectly well, but it did make it so much more fun. She passed the boxes down the line to all of us and we just, it was really fun. But the movie itself. What is up with mom sneaking
Starting point is 00:43:56 in snacks? I also don't know how she snuck that in because they were huge. I'm like, what did she carry that in? Like they surely wouldn't have let her take a backpack. Maybe. Oh, comment down below. Did your family sneak snacks into the movie theater or were you the family that would always buy popcorn and soda? Because my family would never buy stuff
Starting point is 00:44:15 at the movie theater, ever. So I think- Did you even go to the movies? I did. I actually did. But we'd go like when it was cheap. Like if it was like a $5 movie night or something, like my mom was always about those deals. But yeah, I mean, it was cheap, like if it was like a $5 movie night or something, like my mom was always
Starting point is 00:44:25 about those deals. But yeah, I mean, it was just, it was never a thing to buy food. So I remember when I went to go see Clash of the Titans when I was in like seventh grade, I got a slushie and I paid like $7 for it. And it was like a really special thing because we just never did that. And my buddy got popcorn. And so I was able to eat his popcorn he had like the refillable type and I was just stoked because that was something that we never did. That was something and we started dating I had to adjust to because yes my mom snuck in snacks but we were also like we would get snacks too. And I think me as a Howard like we've had this conversation with my brother my brother and my sister-in-law right because yeah
Starting point is 00:45:03 both both the Abbey's you guys were like, what the heck's going on with our men not buying movie theater popcorn? In every relationship, there's the person that sneaks in snacks to the movies, and then there's the person that buys movie theater snacks. And then they find each other and get married and then have to figure it out. Which is funny because I don't even really like microwave popcorn. I only like the movie theater popcorn. I just thought that that's what everybody did I thought everyone knew that it was so expensive at the theater that you'd never pay for the the popcorn but didn't you see people at the
Starting point is 00:45:32 theater eating popcorn I did but I was just like they're stupid oh really but now I'm that stupid person I'm the idiot that's dropping $10 for a bucket of popcorn I didn't buy buy any snacks at the movie because my mom packed me a bento box. Which is hilarious because I'm 45. But it was really fun, like the actual experience of going to the movie with them, but the movie itself really heavy. Like afterwards I was like, oh I need to like decompress. I just want to know the margin on the movie theater popcorn. Oh my gosh, you're still thinking about the popcorn? They're probably spending like, what, 10 cents on that bucket of popcorn?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Actually, a kid that went to my high school was a manager at the AMC, and he got to take home popcorn in trash bags. Wow. And sometimes he would bring it to school the next day, and we got to eat that popcorn. I mean, it's dirt cheap. It's literally just some corn kernels.
Starting point is 00:46:17 It's not as good the next day. Some butter, some salt. Think about that though. He was a manager at AMC as a high school student. That's crazy. Good for him. I know, his name is Colin. Why did you look weird when you said Colin's name?
Starting point is 00:46:29 Because when you're from a small town, you just know like everyone's gonna, it's gonna get to somebody. If you're listening to this, tell Colin hi for us. No! There's somebody from your town that's listening to this podcast right now. I'm just kidding, tell them hi.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Tell Colin hello and tell him that we're proud of him for being a manager at AMC when he was in high school. Okay but why why would you you seriously can't watch the movie with me again? Like if I want to watch it? I could definitely watch it again but I'm like not as much looking forward to it just because it was so heavy. Like um yeah like I knew going into it because I read the book before Griffin was born. I was still, I was prepped and it was still heavy. Like just watching it is like a lot. I know that DV is something that happens in the movie. Yeah, that's basically, I mean that's what it is. That's why it's heavy. But I think the thing that was really cool about the movie is that like,
Starting point is 00:47:18 obviously it's a fictional situation, but this happens all the time unfortunately but what's interesting is that like through the movie you get to see how women end up staying in those bad relationships because for instance like he tells her sometimes he's like it's an accident or like I didn't mean to do that or sometimes he's like he would say like I'm gonna get better like I'm gonna go to therapy, I'm never gonna do this again, make these promises, and other ones are like, I don't know. Basically you just, and you also see how they get more and more tangled in. You have a kid together, you have plans for marriage, you have other friends involved
Starting point is 00:48:00 that you don't want to tell, hurt hurt their image of him, you know, things like that. You kind of just see, because sometimes you hear about what happens in horrible, unhealthy relationships, and you're like, why is that person staying? Like, when are they gonna wake up and realize? But then you see in this movie how it's a slow progression sometimes, and how there's so many of these other factors that kind of like twist their reality and their perception that make
Starting point is 00:48:26 them want to stay and it just gave me so much more compassion for those people you know. Yeah I don't think anybody goes into a relationship thinking that they're going to encounter abuse like that's never something that someone is willingly signing up for you know. And something else the movie that this is why it's called it ends with us something else them movie, this is why it's called It Ends With Us, something else the movie shows is like how it is easy for that type of violence to be generational, if that makes sense. So like her as a child witnessed that type of relationship in her parents. Okay. And so then when warning signs and red flags were happening in her own romantic relationship, she didn't identify those and get out.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Yeah. Because that was her model of a relationship also. It was basically just fitting her same model. Yeah. And then she decided when she had her daughter, it ends with us. That's why it's called that. Oh, no way. Yeah. And so she ended that relationship. No way.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Which I feel like that's a spoiler, but also so many people- You literally just spoiled the whole movie for me. So many people have seen the movie at this point. Wow. Okay. Now I don't even want to go. It's in the title. Thank you to ZocDoc for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Do you hate driving 30 minutes to go to the doctor's office
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Starting point is 00:51:26 nowadays. Oh really? Yeah, it definitely did not give rom-com Girl This Night vibes. Gotcha. It gave heavy, deeper conversations vibes. Afterwards I was like, whew. It wasn't one that I'm gonna easily pop on
Starting point is 00:51:41 and listen to as background noise, if that makes sense. That's for how to lose a guy in 10 days. Oh yeah. This one does not fit in that same category. There was no comedy in it. It was just drama. Except there were some people laughing in the theater and I found it inappropriate. I was like why are they laughing? They were laughing. Okay, when you're in a movie theater, right, and something happens like, are you the type of person that's gonna like cheer or clap? Because some people do that. Especially if you're at a midnight debut, that's a thing. People get excited.
Starting point is 00:52:08 They interact. I know people are doing that in this movie theater and they're like, what? Ha ha, there's so many audible reactions, which I'm like, I think it's fun. But sometimes I was like, that wasn't appropriate. I don't think that was funny. I always feel weird.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I feel like I can't do it because deep in my head, I'm like, this is just a movie. It's literally just on a screen. It's not like it's live theater. No, I can see you getting into it like that. Really? Yeah. But when it's live theater, then I feel like you need to interact more because if the people
Starting point is 00:52:35 on stage are begging you to interact with them. I want to see a live show. We got to go back to New York. We should. I love New York. Let's do it. We got to make it happen. There's an easy flight that's direct.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I know. But yeah, the other thing though is when I saw it ends with us, there was probably a 10 year old, nine year old girl. Maybe 11. Really? Nine to 11 was the age range I gave her. Crazy. That was not, that was not a movie I would take that kid to.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Maybe the parents didn't know, but also it's kinda your job as a parent to look into a movie, especially because it was PG-13. It was PG-13, but it's kind of your job as a parent to like, look into a movie especially, because it was PG-13. It was PG-13, but like it's crazy that PG-13, isn't that like what Spider-Man's rated? Yeah. This movie was not in the same category,
Starting point is 00:53:14 like this one was so much heavier. Okay, question for you about that. Okay, what? Because with the topic of age appropriate things for kids, we were at the park yesterday, I took the boys to the park, and somebody was playing music that, it wasn't like cussing every word,
Starting point is 00:53:29 but there were some songs that came on that had some curse words. I hate that. And it was like some, I'm guessing these kids were probably like freshmen in high school. Yeah. And they were playing at the park too, which they're freshmen, I get it,
Starting point is 00:53:40 they're kids, they're young, they're- They just want some independence. They're trying to be independent from their parents, like I'm sure none of them can drive so them riding their bike to the park is cool and fun for them to hang with their friends. But we're at a park that's for little kids, right? It says 12 and under. These kids were not 12. They were probably 14, 15, maybe one was 16. I don't know. But there was other parents there and nobody went up to them and I was 16, I don't know. But, there was other parents there and nobody went up to them and I was like,
Starting point is 00:54:06 do I go up to these kids and ask them kindly to leave? I didn't wanna start something. I didn't wanna be that weird person. But again, I'm like, you guys are playing trap music at a park where I just have my one-year-old and two-year-old trying to just swing, you know? So, I didn't do it. I didn't wanna embarrass them or make them feel uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:54:30 But at the same time, I was like, if my kids were older, right? Like, especially if they're five and they can fully understand every word that is being played out of that music, I don't want them, you know, I don't want to surround them with something that I don't think they're able to handle at that age. Well, especially that's at a public place too. Like that's a little, in a park, which is like for children, I can see that more.
Starting point is 00:54:53 But the fact of it is, you can't protect your kids from that stuff. Yeah, you can't protect your kids from everything. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah, that's tough. I definitely wouldn't have said anything, but I don't, if a parent chose to in a polite
Starting point is 00:55:06 way, I wouldn't think they were in the wrong. And also like, I will say, I probably won't be as strict with like cursing as my parents were. Like I, I don't think it's okay at all to be mean to someone or rude to someone. I think it's more so like your, your intent less than the words. Obviously I don't want our little kids saying anything, like I don't want our kids cussing. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, sometimes even saying stupid
Starting point is 00:55:31 in front of them feels wrong. I know. Or crap. So I feel like you have to when they're younger, you kind of need to enforce like, hey, we don't say stupid, we don't say crap. Like when they're little, right? But like if I have a teenager who's like 17
Starting point is 00:55:44 and they're cussing, as long as it's not like having a negative attitude or like being rude or mean to someone, I don't know, like if they had stubbed their toe or hurt themselves and they let a word slip, I don't think I'm gonna get on them for that. But I feel like that's something that I would have gotten in trouble for at that age. Does that make sense? I mean, I get what you're saying. I think it boils down to respecting, like saying that word in front of your parents as a kid is disrespectful I think. Do you want to have more of like a friendship dynamic with our kids or do you want to make it very clear like I am mom, I am dad you know because I feel like you and your mom
Starting point is 00:56:17 were kind of best friends. Yeah, hmm that's a tough one. I think I'm still figuring that out. I think it's very easy for me to slip into the friend side of things. I kind of want to find myself in the middle because I feel like you were kind of buddy buddy with your parents. Yeah. And with my parents, it was very much like we're mom and dad and you're the child. I think there's benefits to both. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:37 So I kind of want to find the happy medium. Yeah, that's true. But here's the other thing. I got in trouble. Like if I disrespected my parents, I definitely got in trouble and it was like, you cannot speak to me that way. So even though we were buddy-buddy, they definitely drew that line.
Starting point is 00:56:49 It wasn't more until I was like, obviously we started dating, I was in my late teens. And then as an adult, you're only seeing the adult side of things, whereas a kid, I knew, for instance, I knew I was not allowed to interrupt my mom when she was talking to another adult. That was a no-no. She would literally stop and be like, excuse me I'm talking right now like she would so then when other kids would like go up and like interrupt their parent when they were talking
Starting point is 00:57:12 For a non-emergency thing. I was like, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh They're gonna get in trouble and like they didn't and I was like, whoa, but that is something i'm like That I just think about that sometimes like I knew I wasn't allowed to do that. And I knew I wasn't allowed to like, oh my gosh, one time, we were just talking about this last night, but I did my hand like this, like blah, blah, blah, when my mom was talking to me. Yeah. Instantly in my room, like in trouble.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Can't even not believe you did that. I know, that was so sassy. The other thing I said was, duh, when I was trying to be really sassy. But I think I got that from Lizzie McGuire, so honestly we need to be careful what our kids are watching. Our kids? And because of Lizzie McGuire I called my brother a maggot. Our children will not be watching Lizzie McGuire. I'm sure that's a lot cleaner than some
Starting point is 00:57:55 stuff today. I know but my mom didn't want me to watch it because she was fighting with her younger brother and so she thought that was a bad example. Yeah. So yeah I was pretty sheltered as a kid. Abby, how do you feel about your best friend getting married? Cause we're about to fly back to go see your friend get, like my friend too, but your best friend from growing up. Yeah, my childhood best friend. We were best friends since like fourth grade.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And when I say like best friends, like we had sleepovers every weekend, like hung out all the time I know her you know those friends I feel like this is like we might be like one of the last generation or last like yeah generations we definitely are that would memorize their friends home phone numbers yeah I could repeat it to you right now I know both my best friends home phone numbers that's really sweet yeah and so she's like that friend I like know her home phone numbers. That's really sweet. Yeah, and so she's like that friend
Starting point is 00:58:45 that I like know her home phone number. I could text her mom and like, I just remember like always pulling out her trundle bed and like that was my bed to sleep on over the weekends. And like. I'm guessing you could go to her house and just eat anything out of their pantry. New, their pantry, they had the best cereal,
Starting point is 00:58:59 they always had the freaking Eggo waffle cereal. I don't think they still make that. Wasn't that the best going over to a friend's house and seeing what they have in their pantry because it's always different stuff than what your mom bought. And you want to see what their snacks were. Yeah, their snacks were better.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Or like, oh my gosh, I had one friend whose mom would get them the mini Gatorades. That's amazing. I was like, okay, boogie. One of my friends, he played video games a lot and we all did like a video game night at his house and he had code red Mountain Dew and birthday cake Oreos. It was the best.
Starting point is 00:59:28 That is so crazy to be feeding your like 12 year old code red Mountain Dew. Well, we were 13, you know, we were pretty mature for our age, you know, very grown up. And yeah, we played call of duty in the basement till like three o'clock in the morning. And I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Oh my gosh, our boys are gonna be 13 at one point.
Starting point is 00:59:47 That's only 11 years away from Griffin. We're gonna have Griffin playing video games. I think about the fact that they're gonna become men. But here's the thing, Abby. We don't have basements in it. Like nobody has a basement in Arizona. So what's up with that? Like we grew up with basements, right? Yeah. Like where are our kids gonna hang with their homies? I don't know, but I mean our sister-in-law made a good point. It might be not a bad thing
Starting point is 01:00:05 because I feel like nothing good ever happened in the basements. I don't know, but then if you're an overbearing parent, I feel like you create an environment for your kid to wanna rebel against you, right? Like, if you're too strict on them while they're in the house, as soon as they're out of the house,
Starting point is 01:00:18 they're gonna go crazy. Like, they're gonna do some wild stuff. Okay, well. And I've seen that happen. Man, I guess we better get a basement. We better figure this out, yeah. No, I think we just need to have a separate living space for them where they can like play video games and like have their own hangout time.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And just have a camera in there to monitor everything. Exactly, a baby monitor. Make sure they don't do anything appropriate. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just monitor their screen time, monitor their, yeah, conversations. Um, that's crazy. I'm excited for the the wedding I can't believe she's getting married. I am stoked to go back to where we went to college where we got married kind of where we spent well
Starting point is 01:00:54 we can say where we spent our first years as newlyweds. That'd be good. Actually first six months. No no no I'm sorry a year and six months. I'm excited. You know what's crazy? What? Is the town that we went to school at for college is literally the same place that the new pop artist that's blowing up right now, Chappell Rhone, she's from Willard, Missouri. I substitute taught in Willard. If you look at her music video for I think, you know, the H-O-T-T-O-T-O. Wait, how old is she?
Starting point is 01:01:23 She's our age, she's 26, she's my age. Okay, so I definitely did not substitute teacher. Yeah, you did not. But what's crazy about her is her music video is like showing Springfield and the Galois Theater that we like always went to is in her music video. Oh my. Right? Crazy. We'll have to check it out. I haven't seen it. Yeah. Anyway, I kind of live under a rock.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Well, you guys, thank you for tuning back in for this episode of the unplanned podcast We'll see you next time. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes

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