The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Kay and Tay Address Allegations, Rumors About Divorce & Leaked Mugshot

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

Kay and Tay tackle the allegations and rumors surrounding Tay's leaked mugshot. This episode is sponsored by ZocDoc, Huggies & Rocket Money. ZocDoc:Go to https://Zocdoc.com/UNPLANNED and download the Zocdoc app for FREE! Huggies: Learn more at https://Huggies.com. Rocket Money: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://RocketMoney.com/unplanned. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

People need to hear the truth. Our goal in here wasn't like to come on here and convince everyone. I'm not here to make people believe me. I'm here for the people that wanna know the real story. We're not perfect. We've never said we're perfect. He doesn't deserve the hate that he's getting online

when that's not who he is. Are we lying to people because we didn't tell them no? Why not clear it up for them as soon as you start seeing this information? I was just scared to be very vulnerable and open up about something that was really embarrassing about our life. We sat down with social media couple Kay and Tay, who have come under scrutiny after an

incident from their past came to light. In 2019, Tay was charged with alleged harassment. The charges were later dismissed, but over this past week, the mugshot resurfaced, prompting rumors of everything from the couple getting a divorce to Tay being in jail. Warning, this episode contains the discussion of sensitive topics. This episode of unplanned is brought to you by Huggies Skin Essentials. Let's freakin go! Baby butts rejoice! New Huggies

Skin Essentials are here! A brand new dermatologist line of diapers, wipes and pull-ups training pants all designed with babies sensitive skin in mind There's been a lot of things circulating online about the two of you your relationship Allegations a mugshot and you guys have stayed completely silent on all fronts And you asked to talk about it here, I'm wondering why here, why now? It was five years, it was over five years ago for us. But we just feel like at this point a lot of people are getting the story wrong and

they're lying and twisting things and there's a lot of false narratives going around and we just feel like it's time to tell the true story of what actually happened because people need to hear the truth. And I think also Kay, like I kind of wanted to just come out and talk about it, but Kay, you know, she's very open with like her postpartum depression and health journey as far as that goes. And so it's also been kind of waiting for her to be able to handle, you know, talking about it. Because it's hard when you get like all this hate and all these people spreading lies and rumors and you know it's not true but you know you still see it every day and so I think we're finally at a point where she's ready to to speak about it. So you say this was from five years ago what are you specifically referring to? So the the whole story in question it happened

five and a half years ago on my birthday. On your birthday? On my birthday. Just being fully transparent that night we were drinking wine and playing Minecraft and we used to call it winecraft that was something that we used to do. It was like a game. It was just like a little fun. It was just a fun game and and that was what I wanted to do for my birthday. And so we drank wine and I know I've spoken about my autoimmune journey a few times and how it's been about five years. Well, that was right around the time that I first started taking medication, prescription medication for the autoimmune problems that I was having. And so I had been on a new medication for about a week and I had never drank with that medication before

and my doctor didn't tell me not to drink with it and I think in hindsight I probably should have maybe made sure, but at the time I just took my medication before bed like normal and we went to bed and then I woke up maybe two, three hours later and I was completely confused. I didn't understand what I was doing. I didn't understand that.

I hadn't celebrated my birthday. I thought that we hadn't celebrated yet and I wanted to leave. I was trying to drive and leave the house and Taylor obviously could tell that I was having like a medical emergency. I wasn't acting myself and he was trying to keep me on the bed, keep me from leaving.

I was also confused, because we had just woken up in the middle of the night, too. Yeah, he was probably thinking, what is going on? She was just like, digging for her keys, and I'm like, what is going on? Wait, can we go back just a minute? So, were you guys drunk this night, or was it? We hadn't drank more than any other time,

like playing Minecraft and drinking wine. Like, I think we split one bottle of wine. I remember going to bed. I wasn't at all drunk. Were you living together at the time? We were married, we were living together. Oh, duh. But there were no children at home.

Kinsley was with her father at the time. So it was just us at the house and we went to bed like normal. And this was two to three hours later, you woke up. Yeah. And you thought you needed to leave the house or? She was just like ready to celebrate. I was just ready to celebrate my birthday

and I didn't understand that we had already celebrated my birthday and like we went to bed. And he was trying to explain that to me and I was trying to leave the house. He had at one point hide the keys from me. I was falling off the bed trying to get out and I was stumbling around. He was trying to carry me, put me back on the bed. And I think at the time I was falling off the bed trying to get out. I was stumbling around. He was trying to carry me, put me back on the bed.

And I think at the time I was mad because Taylor didn't want to celebrate my birthday with me. And I thought, well, we haven't celebrated yet. And he was like, well, we did. We need to get back in bed because he knew that if I left, I would hurt myself driving a car or hurt somebody else. So basically it ended where I said I'm gonna call the cops if you don't let me leave and in his mind he's like okay call the cops maybe they'll come and help you like he

wanted them to come because he wanted them to help me he said you're having a medical emergency something's not right like we were not drunk there was no reason that I should have been acting like that. So you're thinking it was the combination of the medication and the alcohol? Well it was no reason that I should have been acting like that. So you're thinking it was the combination of the medication and the alcohol Well, it was confirmed later that it was based on my symptoms by my doctor She was like, yeah, you were not supposed to drink with that medication I didn't know that and obviously never drink with it again But at the time I just took my medication like normal and I went to bed

The best way I can describe it is like if you've ever seen someone with dementia and they're like fully convinced that like they don't Live there or maybe they don't know who their caregiver is and they're like fully convinced. Like that's what it seemed like with Kay. She was fully convinced that she hadn't celebrated her birthday yet and that we needed to go and do something and it's like she couldn't grasp that it was in the middle of the night and she couldn't grasp that it was just so weird. What time was this at? I don't remember the exact time. It had to be like 3, 4 in the morning. Was this interaction that was happening at three or four in the morning? Was it like a yelling match was it it was more confusion like what are you doing? Why why are you trying to drive like hey, this is not safe like and Kay of course is like

Completely the other way she's like, what do you mean? Like we haven't done anything yet. Like we need to go like this isn't fair It's not fair that I didn't get to celebrate and obviously was getting nowhere with it This went like an hour This isn't fair. It's not fair that I didn't get to celebrate. And obviously was getting nowhere with it. This went of like an hour, 30 minutes. It was a short thing. It was a very short thing. Maybe 10 minutes. Yeah, it wasn't like a long thing.

We probably took longer to describe it than the actual event. Yeah. Why so short though? Cause I feel like, obviously I get what you're saying. Like you were drinking, you took your medicine and you're not supposed to do that at the same time. But to go from confusion in 10 minutes to calling the police,

like why did that escalate so quickly? I think some background, Kay's dad was a chief of police. So when Kay is very like, police are like the go-to. They're gonna help me. Yeah, it wouldn't be unnatural for Kay in a situation where something was going on. She's the one that calls the police. If you're at a restaurant and there's a fight,

Kay's like, I'm gonna call the police. That's very natural to her. I think I felt like that's what I... It was just almost like an instinctual, if somebody's gonna help me get out of this house, that's who I'm gonna call. She didn't like the fact that she couldn't drive, and she didn't understand that it was in her best interest not to drive, because another note, we lived 30 minutes from society. Every road from our house to anywhere is unlit windy cliffs Like it Kay would not safe. It would not have been safe for her to drive

Did you ask her like where do you want to go? Yeah, that's where I learned it was for her birthday Like at first when she first woke up She was just looking for her keys and I didn't understand why and she was like it's to celebrate my birthday And that's where I kind of learned all those details So you get on the phone with the police and what do you tell them? I think I just told him something like I'm not allowed to leave my house. I need you to come Let me leave my house. I need you to come and I don't did you hear this phone call? Yeah, I didn't talk to him, but I was just sitting there

Yeah I mean at the time like he would have no reason to think That he should not be there be scared of the cops coming. Like he actually was like, I'm glad they're coming. I'm glad they can handle the situation. Yeah. So that's... In my mind they were gonna tell Kay, hey, yeah, you can't drive, like duh. And then Kay was gonna be like, okay, or maybe at that point she would be good.

And you know what I mean? Or they could have at least sent some like, I don't know, paramedic or somebody to just check me out, make sure I was okay. Sorry. It's okay. You can take a minute. It's okay. But you know, it is what it is. It happened. The only thing I can say is that I wasn't myself. I've never been like that,

and I've never been like that since. But basically the events that happened after, or the cops finally showed up after like 30 minutes. It took like 20 minutes, we lived in the middle of nowhere. And they were all, I remember being super nice, and they took, they separated us obviously and wanted to question us. And in my opinion, I don't think I should have been formally interviewed in the state that I was in.

Do you mind me asking, in that 20 to 30 minutes where you're waiting on the cops, what is the interact, what's the scene like inside the house? It's basically calmed down at that point, and Kay's just sitting there. I was just waiting on the cops together. Kay the interact, what's the scene like inside the house? It's basically calmed down at that point and Kay's just sitting there and she- I was just waiting on the cops together. Kay thought she was right to drive, I thought she wasn't right to drive, and the police were gonna be that deciding factor.

And then when they got there, they separated us, they questioned both of us, I don't know exactly what they said to you. We were chatting about the most random stuff, like I gave them the initial like rundown, like yeah, she's not making a lot of sense, like she wants to leave, I was trying to tell her not to drive,

and then we ended up talking about a deer that got caught on the guy's camera. It was just so chill, we were just chatting. It was very not this big dramatic thing. And then the other cop was asking me questions, do you feel like you're unsafe here? And of course at the time I'm like, yes, I need to leave. I need

to leave this house. I should not have been questioned in that condition ever and I don't understand to this day why medical personnel were not called to make sure I was okay because he was even telling them like she's not we weren't drunk. Like what happened like from the time we went to bed she was normal to now this. It doesn't make sense. Your speech was coherent. I don't, in my opinion, think I looked drunk. It seemed like she wasn't cognitively there. That's why I was saying, dementia is a great example of someone that's talking, but it's not connecting.

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like the law, if they're called to a domestic situation, they have to separate. Like legally it doesn't matter if there was anything violent going on, if it's like that, like they have to separate for the evening and they told us we're gonna have to separate you for the night like it's not a big deal they were super like nice about it and they said that because we admitted to drinking wine they weren't they weren't gonna let either of us drive they

weren't gonna let Taylor leave even though Taylor was not drunk it been hours we didn't even drink that much they, we don't have a breathalyzer on us, so we can't let you drive. And so they said, one of you guys have to come with us. And that, I mean, it was literally one of us. It wasn't like, Taylor's the bad guy, we're gonna take Taylor in. It was one of you have to go in.

Taylor volunteered to go in. Like he literally said, take me, don't take her. And that was it. I was left there and they took Taylor and that was the last thing that I remember other than I called you when you were in jail and we coordinated the bail money and I bailed him out the next day.

If he was doing something to hurt me, I would not be allowed to bail him out legally. I would have had to remain separated from him until the court hearing. That's the way the law works. I would not have been allowed to pick him up. I feel like in their eyes, they were probably just chalking it up to while they were drinking. They didn't look any more into it. And it wasn't until I went to the doctor like a week or so later, and I was telling her about the situation and she was like, you took your medication the same night you were drinking I was like yeah and she said you

cannot drink with this medication like at all like for that we didn't know why it had happened we weren't sure we were like maybe maybe we were more drunk with my brain it was something wrong with the wine because like we had drank that bottle of wine before like when we would play games and stuff but it had never like she had never acted like that so we were just for a week or more, you know? Maybe like 10 days or so. If you don't mind me asking you, what is the medication? It was called Cymbalta.

Cymbalta, okay. And basically when you combine the two, what did your doctor describe to you? Hallucinations, just being in a totally different distress state, like you're not gonna understand Cognitively like what's happening like that is a side effect of drinking with it So you looked you remember looking back on that night even just like a day later and being like what happened? Were you confused or did you still think a day later like when you woke up the next morning? Did you still think like he should have let me go like it in the know?

I think once like some time had worn off, I remember thinking I was so upset that they took him away. Like I was devastated and I could not understand why they took him. I was making phone calls. I was like, how can I come get him? I called him. I was like, I need to bail you out. They said I have to pay this or whatever. And I just remember being so upset and distraught that that had happened. Because I don't think her idea in calling the police was... Was to ever get him in trouble. It was like, let's get answers to this question of whether or not Kay can leave.

Like this was this big question in the air. And so when they showed up and they're like, yeah, we're going to separate you, Kay's like, why? Yeah. What does separation usually look like though? Is it always someone going to jail? Unless there was a third party there that could have taken me away. Which would have happened if we had somebody there. But my question then is, why would you have to pay bail then if it was like an option for him to just go free?

Because they still had to book him. Yeah, they had to book. They still had to put him in. That's like the minimum like thing. Were you, in your brain though, were you still convinced that Tay was doing something wrong in that moment of hysteria? Like, you mean the next day? Like, the day that it happened and the police came, were you thinking, oh, my husband's

keeping me from leaving and you were like, were you okay with the police taking him away in that moment? No. I begged them not to take him. Okay. I begged him. I said, no, no, don't take him. Don't take him. Because the only thing I wanted at the time was to just be allowed to celebrate my birthday. I wanted

to leave, but I didn't want them to take him. I couldn't understand at the time why they were taking him away from me and leaving me there by myself. And that was extremely, that was scary. I was so sad because I was already confused. But then to be left alone for hours, like it was really hard. Did you stay awake the rest of the night then? I never went to sleep. I didn't sleep until I was allowed to bail him out. Wow.

Which was what time? It was like a day later. It was a day later, I think we. I don't remember what time we did it. I don't remember what time it was. Thinking back to that night too, I keep hearing you wanted to leave, you wanted to leave, but it was to celebrate your birthday. Was it like we should go together? She wanted me to go

too. I wanted you to go too. I wanted us to all hang out, like both of us to go hang out and go do something for my birthday. Which I couldn't drive either right? I hadn't been drinking wine. Yeah, he was drinking wine so he was like well I'm not gonna go drive right now. And it's like three in the morning, what are we gonna do? Like we're gonna go drive in the tree like around the trees Yeah, it wasn't like she wanted to leave and be by herself. It was like she wasn't trying to get away from me No, she just wanted to leave the house She wanted to go and drive and like celebrate her birthday You said that even later that next day that you were like that was weird you were you

Felt like you had maybe come off come off of whatever Hallucination you might have been experiencing. Did you contact your doctor that day about what happened? No. Because it didn't really like, it didn't dawn on me. In hindsight it's easy to know. Yeah, in hindsight, looking at the situation, it's in my opinion pretty obvious. It wasn't just alcohol. But at the time, I wasn't thinking that and it didn't like, it didn't register like, Oh, I shouldn't have done this medication with alcohol. And it wasn't until I had like my normal routine, I had a routine follow up appointment that I mentioned like

this happening because I thought like, I truly thought something was like wrong with my brain because I didn't understand in the same way that he understood that night. Like, it didn't make sense to me. Did you have some video or ring camera doorbell footage or something from the event? We were so poor. Like, we did not have... And that's where we kind of come back to all this. Like, we thought we were getting this whole thing expunged, by the way.

We thought it was like wiped from the record because he was found innocent and it was all dismissed, but apparently we misunderstood and we didn't have the $3,000 to pay the expunge. But we didn't have the money. So it never got expunged. How do you get found innocent on a charge like that? I feel like I've always heard as guilty or not guilty and then what does that process look like? So any time you get charged for anything, even if it's like a big fine, like reckless

driving or something, you have an appointment where you go stand in front of a judge. You've probably seen them before where like the judge is talking to someone and they're up on the stand and they're like having some funny discourse or something. Those people are coming to talk to the judge for whatever that event was. And so I just had a day where I had to go and talk to the judge, and I remember the judge actually apologized. I went up and I had my time, and I was talking to the judge and explaining the story, and the judge was like,

you honestly shouldn't have went to jail. I feel really bad. I'm so sorry this happened to you. Did you speak at that hearing? I didn't speak to the judge. She went with me, but she didn't speak. But I did go, and I did speak to somebody else in a room. It was, I don't know if they're attorneys

or who they were, but it was two ladies and I did speak with them prior to his hearing and I told them the series of events, how I remembered them, and I told him about my doctor's appointment. I told him everything. And all I could do at that point was just advocate that he was not a bad person.

He did not hurt me. Like it was not, it didn't go down the way that it was saying in the police report, essentially. They believe, I mean, they were like, I'm so sorry, this whole thing has been taken out of proportion, I mean, it just blew up and it was not ever meant to be, it shouldn't have ever been that way.

How is the judge able to make a ruling only hearing your account? Like, do they have- I imagine that maybe that they write up, like, talk to her and she says, I don't know, I don't know all the background- I'm assuming, yeah, that she knew, like, everything I said and since I was saying he's innocent, he's, he didn't do what, you know, which they didn't even think that you did anything because they gave you the charge that they gave him. It was like a harassment charge. It was a harassment charge. It's like the lowest one they can give. You have to when you get charged with like when they come out to a call like that it's automatically gonna be a DV charge because we're domestic we're married. If we weren't married and she was random it

wouldn't be a domestic charge it would just be the same charge without it. Right. But it has to be considered a DV charge, and it was the lowest charge they could give him, essentially, because they were like, we have to take you in, so we have to charge you with something. And they gave him a harassment charge. It's not an abuse charge. They didn't believe he abused me.

They didn't believe he hit me. So I think all of that, too, in front of the judge, she's thinking,'s thinking okay well he literally was just trying to... I mean what should he have done? Yeah there's like three options right? I could have... oh go ahead. I was just gonna say you either keeps me on the bed, tries to hide the keys, do what he did, or he lets me leave and what's the third option? Calling for help. Or calling for help. But I like took a vow right to protect Kay and sickness and health. And so the third option, or the option of letting her leave isn't even there. I had two options, call for help

or try to keep her from hurting herself. And I did both. We did both. And they were both wrong apparently. I guess, yeah, one could say if you're keeping the keys, you easily could have kept a phone from that phone call being made. But he wanted them to call. I could have, yeah.

I wanted the police to be there. He thought they were gonna help and I think that's where like this whole thing, I wish he didn't think that. I wish he would have thought no they're not gonna help her because then we wouldn't be in a situation. Do you wish he would have kept the phone from you that night too? I wish he would have kept the phone from me, but I think I understand why he didn't and I don't blame him for that at all. Because at the end of the day, I blame myself for not- You shouldn't.

I mean, it was a medical emergency. I know. You weren't in the right mind. Did people in your life pull you aside after hearing about that and question you on things? Oh, I think everybody's always just been so supportive over- I mean, they understood. Like when we told them what happened, like they understood that it was not us and They've always just I mean they don't think differently of us, you know I mean there with this whole situation going on

I I mean all our family has texted and called and said I am so sorry this is happening you guys like We know the true story and it is just so sad that it's being spun like this. Because they know that's not us. They know that Taylor would never do that to me, ever. And here's the thing, like, I've lived abuse. I know abuse and I would never, after getting out of it, I would never be with somebody that did that to me, ever. So I'm a little insulted that people would think I'd stay with somebody after what I've been through. He's a great man. He's literally the person that like pulled me out of the worst point in my life and that's why I blame myself. That's why I'm I've always been mad at myself for that night. We got over it as soon as it was. Yeah. I mean like she put it in our past. She

picked me up and she was so apologizing. She's like I'm so sorry like I shouldn't have called the police. I understand now. I was just like, it's not a big deal. It wasn't to us. Even the cops were like, it's not a big deal. The next day she bailed me out and it wasn't a big deal. Then they dismissed it.

I was innocent. It's like it wasn't a big deal. It really was just a one day thing. Five and a half years ago it ended. We put it behind us. We've made a lot of smarter decisions since then. I would say it taught us a lot like don't mix alcohol with your medications. I'm on a lot more now so I have to be more careful. This episode of unplanned podcast is brought to you by

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Learn more at huggies.com. Once again, head to huggies.com to learn more. Has an episode similar to that night five and a half years ago health-wise happened to you since then? I did have like a reaction to I was in the hospital during COVID and at the time I was by myself. She was having really bad breathing. I was having asthma problems and he gave me medication and I had a bad reaction to it. It was through my IV and I called him and I was like I don't understand why they have me here like I was super confused. She was so confused. So I don't know maybe I'm sensitive to medication. It was very similar

I remember like our because I couldn't go in it was during You know all the kovat stuff and so I couldn't go in and I remember thinking during that event Like this is like so familiar because she thought the nurses were like wanting to hurt her and stuff and she didn't understand Why she was in there and yeah, she makes me sound so crazy. No, this is the only two events This is ever happening. It wasn't it wasn It wasn't like, they had given her something and she had a bad reaction to it and that was it. Cause she went in for breathing problems. She was having asthma and so she went in to like,

cause she couldn't catch her breath and her, what is it called? The thing wasn't working. Albuterol? Yeah, the albuterol wasn't working. No, I was on breathing treatments and stuff but. Did the medical staff that day recognize that there was a cognitive issue happening?

Yes, they knew and they told, they called him and they were like, she's, we're not going to give her this medication anymore, like she's clearly having a reaction. They had the doctor in there and everything. So that was all like squared away with that situation in the hospital. I think if there had been a medical personnel on site when all that happened in 2019, I think we would have probably not had that situation happen. It would have been completely different. It would have been different.

Was this your first night ever staying in a jail? It was. It was my only time ever. It was very weird. What was that experience like? It was so chill at first. I remember like, like she was saying, the cops were so chill. They were like, dude, it's not a big deal. Like we got to take you in. Like don't worry about it. And like, I remember him apologizing like 12 times when we drove there.

Because like I said, we're in the middle of nowhere. It was like a 30 minute drive to get to the jail or whatever. And I just remember him apologizing. And then when we got there, everyone in the bookings was like laughing and having a good time. Were you handcuffed in the car? He unhandcuffed me while I was in the car.

He had to re-handcuff me when I went into. This was not a big dramatic situation. Oh no, it was like, yeah. That people are making it. It really wasn't. When I got there, I had to, I guesscuff me when I went into... This was not a big dramatic situation. Oh, no. That people are making it. It really wasn't. When I got there, I had to. I guess it's just like a protocol. But, yeah, anyway, so I get there,

and they're all laughing and stuff, and it was just the most chill thing. The guy, he was like, hey, make sure, wear socks, wear this other stuff, because you have to change into jail clothes and stuff. And he's like, dude, wear all your shirts and stuff because it'll be cold. Like don't, don't take off your shirt. Like put that underneath. And he was like giving me advice and stuff, you know, the cop was.

And yeah, I mean, it was just, yeah, I think I got a lot of hate online because when I took the mugshot photo, I smiled and I'm like, I don't know. Like I've never been to jail. The person that laughs in the worst situation, like very, if he's feeling awkward or uncomfortable, he laughs. Like that's just how he is. I'm also conditionally trained to anytime anyone's taking my picture since birth, they're like smile for the camera. You know, so it's like, how does this mugshot surface five and a half years later?

Like why now? Why randomly? Like you guys have been doing social media on what two or three years? Like why why randomly now in 2024 five and a half years later are people seeing this mugshot of you? We can't really go into the details like we know Someone in her life leaked it and we've we know and like without a without a doubt no We have proof but yeah, we can't go into it, but it was just to make Kay hurt, essentially. Just to hurt me. I mean, it's been that way for a long time. How does that affect your mental health? It sucks.

It hurts a lot to know that this individual hates me so much, that even knowing the situation and knowing what happened that night, they leak stuff like this just to see people do what they're doing right now. And that's exactly what this person wanted. And it's nauseating because I feel like bullies mean people. They almost always just get away with doing this stuff. And then we that's why we're telling our story. That's why we're telling the truth, because it's not right.

We could have stayed silent, but then nobody would know that that's not even what happened and Taylor is a great person. It sucks. It hurts a lot. Because it's not just affecting me even though that's what they want. They want to hurt me. It's affecting our whole family. I mean our whole family. There's children involved. Like this is this has been a hard week for us. And it's not like some spicy news like, oh this just in, like this is a five year old dismissed case that I was found innocent and like apologized to for even going to jail.

And it's like, why are you bringing up five year old drama? What is the story on the internet right now? Like what are people saying? That I'm horrible and that I'm in jail and I think we're divorced right now maybe? Oh, apparently we're getting divorced, I don't know. Who's getting the house? We got a new house coming up, so.

We just bought a new house. Who's gonna get it? There's been, not only this story, but I feel like there's other stories spinning off of it and I truly don't know where these people are coming up with some of this information. In my opinion, these people don't care if they hurt other people, they want the views.

They want to have this hot info, and they're gonna put it out there whether it's true or not, and they don't care. Nobody came to us before making videos and say, let me get your side of the story. Nobody asked us, they just made these thinking they knew for certain that this is what happened and they spun a story. And it's so unfortunate.

I think it's boring to say, oh well, it was just some freak event from five years ago. That's not fun. And so they have to like kind of build this story because that's more fun. That's more interesting. I think that image of the mugshot with your face with domestic violence is a shocking

image to see. It's not something that on a random evening that we have playing Minecraft inside our house, those images don't typically come up. And so I guess your face, the word domestic violence, speaking to that evening, was there violence that evening? No. It was non-violent. Non-violent, no. Can you speak to the person who's listening

to this right now, and they probably see you guys and they can tell, okay, from the outside looking in, you right now seeing your relationship, you look happy, you look like a couple that cares about each other, but maybe this person isn't buying the story that you're telling us right now. Speak to that person. Like, what would you tell them?

Our goal in here wasn't like to come on here and convince everyone. We just wanted to come and tell the true story. Like, this is the story, and whether you wanna believe it or not, like, obviously there's gonna be people out there that are gonna choose not to, and they're gonna say no,

even though there's no other story, even though the only other story is, I put her on the bed, that's the only story, they're still going to say, I don't believe you. And I'm not here to make people believe me. I'm here for the people that have supported us and followed us that want to know the real story. Yes. So-

Because those people, like we're fine giving those people the truth, but like he said, like people are going to pick this whole interview apart. They're going to make videos after. I know it's gonna happen. People want to hate us. People want to find a reason to not like us. And that will be forever. As long as we're online, people are always gonna hate us.

And that's fine, but the truth needed to be said. And also, if you don't believe it, look at our 10-year relationship. In 10 years, we've had one event. How many of these people have a perfect History in their life. None of these people have a perfect. Nobody has a perfect world perfect life. We're not perfect We've never said we're perfect. We promote healthy relationships because we have one and we do Feel that we have a very good relationship. I mean very good like I've said in the past. I've had bad relationships

I know about a relationship, but that's this is not one and in all of the ten years we've been together We have one thing that happened and it was a freak Medical emergency situation that doesn't define us as a couple that doesn't define us as people It just it happened and it ended for us five years ago and it needs to be It needs to be stopped talked about because it's not even relevant anymore. Is there concern that it might happen again? I'm no longer on that medication anymore.

It didn't work out for me. It caused a lot of other side effects, not with the alcohol just in general that I didn't like. Made me dizzy regardless. I remember taking it for like another month or so and I literally worried about myself driving to work. I had to call out of work a few times because it made me feel drunk. I mean, that's the only way I can explain it. I felt so wobbly, so disoriented. I mean, it makes sense to me now that like drinking alcohol on top of that would amplify everything

I was feeling already. Obviously the hallucinations and stuff, I wasn't having those, but the alcohol made that happen. But I had to come off of it because it was just so hard to stay on it. And it's one of those, I'm actually on a Facebook group and it's like Symbalta Hurts Worse. And it's this whole page of people who it literally takes them a year and a half or longer to come off the medication. You have to taper off of it so slowly, or you can literally have withdrawals that could kill you. It's such a hard, and I don't promote that medication at all.

I don't like that medication. I've had new doctors that try to put me on it, and I refuse. I mean, that was a really hard month, just all together, and it didn't work for me. So, no, I don't think that I'm going to have that situation again. Because like I said, I was in my twenties, I was younger.

I wasn't reading the labels of medication. I was doing I was being irresponsible. Which I mean, Kay also took other medications then. So it's I feel like it was a natural thing to say, oh, let me make sure every single medication is good. Like when I take Tylenol, I'm not like, okay, but if I drink tonight, is that Tylenol gonna affect me?

Like I just- It just wasn't something I thought about. Now I do. Now, anytime I start a new medication, I make sure like, okay, what, and we don't even really drink anymore. This episode is sponsored by Rocket Money. Did you know that the average person

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I mean everyone was really apologetic of like, so sorry this happened, like this, you know, this shouldn't have happened, but I think my mindset at the time was like, not a big deal. Like I had never been to jail before, I had never had any problems, and so it's like, okay, well I'll have this one blemish temporarily. And then I'll, you know, but I was found innocent. Did that come up on your record when you were applying for jobs? Oh, really? I feel this situation that didn't come up that image, that database doesn't exist anymore.

Yeah, that database stopped existing in 2019. So the person that got that screenshot that's being leaked right now in 2024, how do we have obtained that screenshot in 2019. So the person that got that screenshot that's being leaked right now in 2024 had to have obtained that screenshot in 2019 when the incident happened. But even the charge and everything, it was never brought up when I got a job. Why has the database gone? They remade it. Well funny enough, he worked on the new database in college. We found this out after all this was leaked and we were doing all our on the new database in college. I didn't do it yet. No. Wow. We found this out after all this was leaked and we were doing all our research. We were like, this database doesn't even exist anymore.

This looks so familiar. And he's like, wait, this is the new database. And he's like, I worked on this in college. Yeah, we did a thing with Jefferson County and I worked on the database. Yeah. So funny. I didn't obviously have access to the records, but I worked on the back end. The coding of changing the data.

But isn't that all public record? Like, can't you go back and see records from, you know, 50 years ago of what happened with people going to prison or if someone got a DUI. The mugshot itself with like the UI and the user interface and all the data and the way that it's. The way that it looks. That doesn't exist anymore.

I'm sure you could go and file a report and get some paper document or something from from the courts But as it is being shown that image doesn't exist and that was obtained by somebody back in 2019 And it just held on to it and they held on to it until this year Which state did that happen in again refresh Alabama Alabama? Okay. Wow, that's just it's so interesting because when I was in high school there was a teacher that got a DUI and then everybody knew about it because like everybody saw the mugshot and it like

circulated around our school and we were just kind of like shocked. So I mean like, yeah, just that not being public information anymore is just. I'm sure that the picture exists somewhere, but in the form that it's in doesn't exist anymore. In that form. With that green text, with the header,

with the UI, the user interface. If you were to look up his mugshot now, it wouldn't work. I don't even know if it would, I don't even know if you would be able to find it. So I keep hearing that you were found innocent on this. I normally hear the verbiage around charges like this. I normally hear guilty or not guilty.

It was dismissed. So I was found, it was not guilty, yeah. Okay, so it was just dismissed and then, okay. Dismissed just means I was found innocent. I wasn't, like I wasn't found guilty of that crime. He wasn't fined for it. Yeah, I actually got all the money back from the bail. I got everything back.

You got your bail money back. Yeah. Cause that's what happens, like, and that's why in our, in the past, like our, we misunderstood dismissed and expunged. I think we thought when it said dismissed, like this was gonna be off his record completely but it turns out we were just too poor to pay the expunged fee.

The better version. The better version which he was entitled to like we would have gotten that. Yeah. That's how innocent he was. The situation should have been expunged back in 2019. I just didn't have the money to file the paperwork. You can't expunge things unless you're actually innocent. Can you expunge it now? Yeah, we could.

But what's the point now? There's like a million copies of it online. I'm not going to waste $3,000 when everybody's already putting it all out there. And like I said, we've been done with it for five years. So, you're saying that if this was something that you thought was still out there even a year ago, you could have been like, oh, let's go back and cover our bases and get that expunged, you could have done that. We honestly though, I think for us, we put this behind us five and a half years ago.

I don't think about this when I wake up, you know what I mean? We don't even think about it anymore. And I never even, I think for me, like I said, we thought it was expunged, so it never crossed our minds again until this year when it all got leaked. This also makes me realize that, say you start blowing up on social media, you're like man people are gonna do a deep dive of us, we should cover it make sure that

that's completely dismissed. You could have gone back and expunged this but because the image that's circulating was obtained in 2019 it really wouldn't have happened. That one would have gotten out. That one would have gotten out no matter what. So it wouldn't have mattered. It wouldn't have mattered. They would have just had the mugshot with no story. Well, they still don't really have a story, but they would have had literally just a mugshot.

And I mean, there's no telling what they would have said. They would have made their own stories. Well, they are making their own stories. Like, obviously we've been past this for like five years, and this is like in our past. And like we have this like buying our first home journey that we're doing right now. And like that should be super exciting.

You only get to buy your first home once, right? And so we're like right at the peak of like that excitement. But we don't even get to be excited because we're having to clear up rumors online. And that sucks, especially like it'd be one thing if this happened three days ago. But the fact that this has been done and like cleaned up and like just a little bow in the corner from five years ago, it just sucks.

I think also, I just thought of this because I feel like people have been wanting us to address this. Why are they living this life? Why didn't they tell us this information? Can you honestly, like there's 30 years of my life before TikTok, what, I mean, do want to know every single thing in my life that happened? This wasn't a relevant situation anymore in our lives. He's not

hurting me. So why would this one situation have anything to do with our current like lifestyle? It doesn't, it has nothing to do with the content we post online. It has nothing to do with our lives now anymore. There was just no reason to be like, hey guys, we're making content and I see we have some followers so let me just let you guys know about the situation that happened in 2019. It doesn't make sense. Nobody does that. Nobody would do that. So are we lying to people because we didn't tell them? No. We just, there was no reason to tell anybody that because it was a medical situation that quite frankly, wasn't really anyone's business. But I mean, we don't mind telling the truth

and we want the people that have supported us to know like we're not these bad people that people are trying to say. And we love each other very much. We are very much still in love and happy and we're gonna continue promoting healthy relationships and we're gonna continue showing our love story online because that's the truth. Why do you think some of your followers believe continue promoting healthy relationships and we're gonna continue showing our love story online because

That's the truth. Why do you think some of your followers believe that they deserve to know all this background information about your past? I think in some way they deserve to at least know the truth like it's one thing to be mad For us not saying it in the first place like that would be very unnatural But once it's all out once it's out I can understand them wanting to know the truth then. It's the people that are saying, well, you should have told us this. Like, no. Why not clear it up for them immediately

as soon as you start seeing this information online? Well, for me- It's like a mental health thing. I've been struggling with postpartum depression. I've been very open about that and anxiety since having Ellie. And even though he wanted to come out and immediately tell the story I

Don't think I was prepared Mentally, I don't even know that I am now but I felt so scared of the the hate that would come and people twisting words and Scary and it will happen and that's why I say like I don't even know if I'm mentally ready now But I have to do it for Taylor He doesn't he doesn't deserve the hate that he's getting online when that's why I say, like, I don't even know if I'm mentally ready now, but I have to do it for Taylor. He doesn't deserve the hate that he's getting online when that's not who he is. Even if people are gonna tear me down,

like, I have to do that for him. And so that's why I'm doing it now. But I think in the beginning, I was just scared to, like, be very vulnerable and open up about something that was really embarrassing about our life. And why here on this medium, this platform? Very few people relate to the idea of being alone while having you know so many people that follow you but you really do feel alone. You know it's like being bullied in high school but like the world is the high school. Like

everybody's against you and everybody's coming at you from every angle saying that your husband is bad and asking if I'm safe, asking if I'm okay and it's okay if I'm not like I this is a safe space. Like these people that are saying that they don't care about my safety, they don't care about my mental health, they're doing it for views and so it's so irritating to me that these people claim they're doing it because they care about me. You're hurting my family by saying this stuff. You're not helping me at all.

You're bringing up five and a half year old stuff. It's not like it happened yesterday. You know, it's so irritating to me. What has this situation taught you? Be more careful when she's always running through medicines. Like, because she's still, the journey of trying to figure out what's wrong is happening to this day. And so Kay's very, back in the day, the doctor would say,

here's a medicine, try this. And Kay was like, OK. Now she's very careful with all medicines. When the doctor prescribes it, she'll get it, and she won't take it until she's gone and done research online and looked into it. And I think that was kind of the start of that. In the beginning when I started the other medication, I think I was just so naive. And like the doctors are just, in my mind, they knew that's the medicine I needed to take.

And I just took it, even though the side effects were terrible. But now, like I try to advocate more for myself and I'm like, I'm not taking that, or I'm gonna do more research. I'm very picky, and I'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with me, so I'm always constantly being pushed, like this medication, this medication, let's experiment, I feel like a guinea pig sometimes, it's like, here, try this one, try this one,

if this helps, maybe this is what's wrong. It's hard, but I think I'm just definitely more responsible. Is that common for people with the autoimmune condition that you have, to not have like a one-size-fits-all solution to the symptoms? Oh yeah. Even if two people have lupus, it doesn't mean that the same medications work for the same people. Like, for both people. One person may need to take this medication, but this person, it doesn't work for them, so they have to take a different one. Like, it's very normal. You basically have to get a tailored to you regimen of medication. It's not one size fits

all. So even if I get my diagnosis, which I feel like we're very close to getting, I think it'll still be a journey of finding what I need to take. And that's the other thing. I feel like all of this stuff, the stress, it's like caused my health to getting, I think it'll still be a journey of finding what I need to take. And that's the other thing. I feel like all of this stuff, the stress, it's like caused my health to be, not just my mental health, but like my physical health has also suffered this week from it. I have an appointment though, August 6th, so I was able to get that rescheduled. I'm excited to hopefully get a diagnosis that day, but we'll see. Tay, Kay was talking a lot about how these comments

and the Reddit threads and everything felt like a big high school bully, but you know, multiplied times a thousand. Is that how it's been affecting you as well? Oh yeah, I mean, like I don't think humans, like I don't think it's natural to have the opinion of like 10,000 people, good or bad. I don't think that's natural. I think that's like 10,000 people, good or bad. I don't think that's natural.

I think that's really unnatural. And like the high school bully thing, like, you know, like in high school, like the gossip starts and it's like a lie. And then everyone in high school is talking about it. Like imagine that just times a thousand, like that tens of thousands of people spitting a lie out. And there's nothing you can do. I can't go to every comment and say, no, this is a lie.

Because what are they going to say? No, it isn't like saw it on this video Yeah, and so it's like I can't even I can't even say hey you guys are spitting lies because they're just gonna say no No, you're wrong. No you you know and so it sucks. It really does. It's really it's just so unnatural. I think you've been Trying to remain strong though like he Like he's definitely tried to make himself seem like it's not bothering him, but I know it is bothering him, because I know him. He's always trying to be tough, but.

No, it sucks, it really does. Mental health is just, it's so hard when people make up stuff of value. Do you have any friends or mentors that you've been talking to to work through the thoughts and work through everything you're feeling? I should, but I don't. Not right now.

I have a friend I've been messaging. I thought about getting medicated maybe. Get on medicine. We don't want to have to do that though. Yeah, because I've heard there's bad things about it too. I don't know. I'm still still looking around well Looking towards the future

What is down the road for K and T? Is there a world where you stop sharing online because the feedback is overwhelming is too overwhelming No, my perfect world this point because like K and I's content. It's it doesn't step on anyone's toes. We don't post controversial stuff. I mean, it's the most, it's so boring sometimes on my mind because I'm like, I'm cooking for Kay, like that's my video. We're actually very boring. We're so boring and so like it's so weird to me that the controversy finds its way to us so many times. It's very unprovoked because we're not posting things against anyone. It's just very much like lovey-dovey, sappy. Just showing our life.

This is our life and we're gonna continue to do that. Yeah, my goal is to just get to a point where maybe I do that but it's somehow more disconnected. Like right now I'm so attached to each platform, but maybe it just gets to a point where I can just film K and give that all away to someone and let them put all the content out and then we just show our life. Cause I do like that. It's like my biggest hobby is like being able to show our life and being able to show our moments. And like for me, like my hobby isn't sports or like anything like that.

Like my hobby is like trying to find things that my family liked to do and like new experiences. And like, I'm like that guy that, you know, and like the family's riding in the car and the, the kids music like the family's riding in the car and the kids music is playing and the kids in the back are like singing to the kids song and like, that's my ideal life. Like I have some kids singing some kids bop

and like that is what I want with my life. And so I don't know, I wanna show that and I wanna continue to, hopefully continue to post that and just beat that. I think what's hurt me a lot in all of this is that I know you do less of it than I do, but I really do try to go through our DMs and talk to people. And there's some people that I've communicated with back and forth multiple times. Like, I recognize their profile picture and their name when they comment and DM.

Like I've, I feel like we've've grown these friendships with some of these people and I love all of our followers. I love everybody. I love the support that they have given us through all of this. And so what hurts the most is seeing some of those people turned, sending DMs saying, like, well, I used to like you guys, but now I don't. And that's heartbreaking because you want so badly to just tell them like please like wait Like you don't understand like that's not what happened

But you can only say that so many times and then immediately the person say you're lying. I don't care like It's that that's been hard Because I don't want it's one thing for people who already didn't like us to not like us It's another thing when you have all these other people that did like you and looked up to you thinking you're a bad person. Like you've let them down. And that's why I want to go on the record and say we aren't perfect. We've never said we were perfect and we never will be. But we love each other so much more than anyone.

I mean he's my best friend. And we got through this together then and we're going to get through it together now. Double whammy. Double whammy. That's why're gonna get through it together now. Double whammy. Double whammy. That's why good relationships get through the hardest things. I think it makes relationships better. It has made our relationship better. If you're able to get through hard times together. Yeah, we've experienced loss, family loss, so many things.

That was just one of the trials in our life together. We have so many more years together. I'm sure we're gonna have more trials in our marriage, but we always get through them. Have you thought of maybe taking a break, stepping away from social media with all the comments and all the hype around this event, this picture getting leaked?

Do you feel like, hey, maybe I should, for my mental health, take a step back and just breathe? I've thought about it, I it's almost kind of scary because it's like if I run away when there's hate then it kind of sends this message like well if you hate them then they'll leave and so it's like if I quit. You can't let the bullies win. Then every time I come back it's gonna be like hey they're here like time to hate them you know. So it feels like if you stop posting then you're letting them win. It's what it feels like. It does yeah I then you're letting up the only wind. You're letting them win.

That's what it feels like. It does. I'm going to keep doing what I want to do. We're not hurting anybody posting our life. If they want to like us, we welcome them and we want them to be in our crew. But if they don't, then they don't. We're not running off. We're not going to hide.

That's why we've been posting like normal the last week. We're not scared of posting our life. We're just going gonna keep posting. Is buying this new house, you guys were showing us before we started recording some pictures of the house. And I'll be honest, it's a beautiful home, you guys. It looks gorgeous. Thank you.

How has that affected things? Like, are you really excited or do you not feel like you can look forward to that because you're currently trying to deal with this current turn of events? I think yeah, it's kind of Stifin the excitement a little bit But I think me and K are on the same page that like just explaining this here is enough for us to say There you go. Like here's the truth. I don't really care what how you respond to that Here's exactly what happened you guys go run around with that and we're gonna enjoy our life now

And so we have to enjoy our life now. And so. Because we have to, for our mental health, like we have to, but I will say to your question, it's been really, like we got the keys the other day, and we don't feel like we haven't moved in, we don't feel like as excited as we should be, because we're dealing with all of this.

So we're hoping like this is like, this puts that step. We can shut this door. And then we can be be excited yeah. Maybe you guys need to do a vacation from your problems have you guys seen what about Bob where his therapist tells him to go on a vacation from his problems? I say this all the time I'm like I'm on vacation from my problems. I've never seen that. Not a lot of people have seen it honestly it's It's okay. But the people that have seen What About Bob know what we're talking about. Such a good movie, honestly. I really want to spoil the ending right now, but I can't do that because people will watch it.

Honestly, if you need to laugh, watch that movie. Maybe that could be your a form of relief. Going to that movie and watching Bob take a vacation from his problems. Maybe we need a vacation from our problems. That's what the house is gonna be.

We're gonna get in the house, we're gonna lock ourselves in and hide from the world. I'm just kidding. Walk the doors to your castle. No one can get me here. We just wanna live our lives. I'm gonna mentally close the door and not care anymore about all the fake stuff online

and it's gonna be good. Thank you guys for coming and hanging out with us. Thank you for your honesty today and for having this conversation and for trusting us. Just hope that you find time to take care of yourself and go on a vacation from your problems if that's what you need to do. I think that would be good.

We're gonna have to look into that. Yeah.