The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - My Grandparents on Surviving Polio, How They Met & Life Without AC

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

We managed to somehow convince Abby's grandparents to join us on our sectional and share the stories from their lives. They told us what is was like growing up in a small town, how they met, life befo...re modern luxuries and Terry's polio diagnosis as a child. Make sure to rate our podcast and leave a review if you can, it really helps us out!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You got diagnosed with polio at 13 years old. Mm-hmm. It was the talk of the town when he got polio. He was so thin, this is kind of a mace H2. Meeting each other, was there like a hallmark moment that you're like, ah, that was the moment. We had mutual friends. They kept saying how they liked you.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Yeah. So it made me start paying on more attention to him. Did you guys have air conditioning back then, by the way? No. You didn't have air conditioning? No, we could never have. We should. Bye.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Hey, before we get started, please go ahead and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. It would mean the world to us, seriously. It goes a long way, and let's get on with the episode. What's up, dudes? And welcome back to the unplanned podcast. We have some very special, guys. It took a lot of convincing. These were the hardest guests that we have yet to get on the show, honestly.
Starting point is 00:00:46 We have my very own grandma and grandpa here with us. Everyone. Vicki and Terry, thank you for being here. Good to be here. So, so happy to be here. You, I just love going to visit you guys, because you're just so pleasant to be around. Well, I'm going to tell you some more often. We'll have to.
Starting point is 00:01:06 We definitely have to hear this. Matt did tell me. I was like Matt, who's my favorite favorite family member of mine. He said without a station, he said Vicki. Oh wow, I'm so humbled. And I call my grandpa, Papa, I have since I was. That you could talk. That's like a talk.
Starting point is 00:01:24 But yeah, some backstory on like my relationship with my-all, I have since I was... It's not you could talk. It's like a talk. Um, but yeah, some backstory on like my relationship with my grandparents is that I feel like I'm way closer with you guys than I am with like, then most people are with their grandparents. Like you guys pretty much kind of raised me in a way. Oh, we loved, I tell you, those years precious years. They were... They were... Because they're overbid.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah. But now you're a great grandma, and you get to live them again with Griffin, and you guys are in amazing shape. Grandma goes to the gym four times a week. That's incredible. And I take her. And Grandpa takes her. Grandpa takes her.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Do you work out four times a week? Not quite We really work really work out twice. I go to there to walk sometimes when it's cold. Hey, that's a workout That's awesome something I might write you guys you take frequent trips to the grocery store Just as a way to get out. We love it. Yeah, and do a little Screeching to get out of the house That's so fun and he drinks trit, he lattes. Yeah, Papa goes to, well, let's get my shout out,
Starting point is 00:02:29 Corners Coffee in my hometown Quincyle in a way, and they have many locations now in the whole surrounding area. Yeah. It's a great small business that Papa supports every single morning. And I actually get DMs from workers at this coffee shop. But like, I see a grandfather every morning. He always gets a chai, skinny chai. I love that.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Papa actually went with me to get a chai today before we filmed this. And we went pretty much to Timberto. We could not find this coffee shop. And then we got locked out everywhere, couldn't park, and took forever for the locks. Oh my gosh. They were delicious.
Starting point is 00:03:06 You guys took the longest excursion today to get coffee. I think you were gone almost two hours. To go faster, cause we went down a one-way street the wrong way, and we... Papa said that was the only time we didn't have any trouble. Oh my gosh. It's when we were going the wrong way down a one-way. It was a whole adventure, but honestly, it was great,
Starting point is 00:03:22 cause we just want to spend time with other me and Papa. It was fun. So something that's so cool about you with your grandparents Abbi is you have the closest It was a whole adventure, but honestly it was great because we just want to spend time with other me and my mom. It was fun. Something that's so cool about you with your grandparents Abby is you have the closest relationship with them. Yes. I never got to experience that because I never even got to meet one of my grandparents in my grandma past like 10 years before I was born. And then my grandpa lived in another state and then my other grandpa also lived in another state and my grandparents were all separated, but all your grandparents were together
Starting point is 00:03:47 and going to their house, was it Friday or Saturday? Yeah, every Friday night. My friends knew growing up too, they'd be like, Abby stays with her grandparents, so I'm not having to sleep over. But like through high school, every Friday night, I mean, there was less and less as I got older
Starting point is 00:04:02 sometimes I was doing stuff. But even through high school every Friday night Saturday morning we had Blueberry waffles, Swiss Miss sugar free And the log cabin syrup sugar free also, right and we just had it like all these sweet traditions Remember we'd we'd always convince pop-all to go to the arcade or something. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:04:27 And you also commissioned him to buy you some very expensive boots once at the park. Oh. They were from justice, Sarah Sparkley. Oh no, the runners. Yeah. Oh, we got two perished shoes that day if you're a child. Oh my goodness. I don't know how I convinced you, Papa.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Oh, you are. You are. You were putty in his hands. But I'm jealous, honestly. Like that's so, so cool. We got to have every Sunday lunch with them. And pretty much the rest of the day on Sunday, they went to, oh, Wednesday nights, you'd take me to church. Like every, I'm pretty sure that we would see you like pretty much every day of the week,
Starting point is 00:05:02 a lot of the times. Like maybe not Monday, and Tuesday's nights and Fidey, but then you went to all my events all my sporting games all my show yes But it just it just makes sense Abby because you say all these quirky things like you say nards You say they don't say nards. Jiminy Christmas. You say like so many Uh, I don't know what the hecky is that what you used to say you have all these funny sayings me first or a day We first started dating each other. I was like blown away by all these funny sayings you had and I think you picked them up from your Grandfathers I 100% dead. We picked him up from our parents and their
Starting point is 00:05:34 But you've got some good ones. What are yours? Don't give me that who shot John? Who shot John? My favorite. Does anybody know that saying who shot John? Abby? Yeah, we look it up. We looked it up. It's really valid. You guys didn't realize it, but they're valid. No, I'm the one defending you guys. I stand here from our friends. They're like, what did you just say? So now some of our friends literally, my name is John
Starting point is 00:05:54 around them because of that. They call that some who shot John. Yeah. Or I don't know, you have a bunch of sayings. You would you say to me, you said don't shoot a gift horse in the mouth? A race horse? Or a gift horse't shoot a gift horse in the mouth a Race horse or You know don't insult somebody who's giving you something. Yeah, no. Oh, yeah, she has she has you guys
Starting point is 00:06:13 You think of any more off the spot? I just rolled off of our parents tongues Well, you just say I'm you're even realize roll on them off Yeah, so I feel like a lot of my Personality was also shaped by this. Oh, 100%. That's why on today's episode, this is episode 10, by the way. I cannot believe we're already at episode 10, but I want to understand more of who your grandparents are, how they met, where they grew up.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I'm just so curious because they are such a big part of your life. And I'm hoping that Griffin's grandparents and great grandparents can be a big part of his life as well. So I just want to know more. Yeah, you guys have been married for almost 55. Almost 55. No, almost 56. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And August 56. Wow. And I was at your 50th anniversary. So you grew up, or Abby grew up in Quincy, Illinois, which is where you guys lived. Abby's whole entire life. So you got married. But when you got married, you moved to Quincy
Starting point is 00:07:10 from cold chesters. Yes. OK. And cold chesters, how many people live in that town? At that time, I think it was 15,000. Yeah, around 15,000. 1500. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:07:20 That's like tiny. That's about 1,000, I would guess. Wow. Yeah. That is a very small town. So moving to Quincy must have been like moving to a big city. It was. We loved it.
Starting point is 00:07:29 And it was 40,000 people. They had a library and 42,000 something like that. Places to shop that you didn't know. You know, Walmart? I don't think they had Walmart back then. Oh really? No. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Not 50 years ago. And so growing up, did you guys know each other as kids or did you not meet later till high school? Like how? How did you guys meet high school? Now something about pop-all is he's an identical twin. It's Terry and Jerry. Yes. Which is just such honestly that's made for like a movie series or like a book series. Oh my god. Did your mom ever give you any explanation? She just liked the way they sound together. I never know. She didn't the way they sound together. I never She didn't know she was having twins. She did it. That's right Crazy. Yeah, they didn't have sonograms. That's why I'm 20 minutes younger than Jerry. Wow
Starting point is 00:08:15 You have to tell the story bouncing little boy. Oh Wait a minute So she was giving birth and she then that's when she found out she's gonna have two two Oh my gosh, what in the world was she huge or I don't recall oh my goodness I can imagine that she's tall lady so she probably think about the shot thinking you're having one kid and then you're Having to yeah, yeah, that is crazy. So then she didn't have time to think of another name. So of course it was just Jerry crazy so then she didn't have time to think of another name so of course it was just Jerry Jerry so Terry Wow I just got one Tom oh my gosh and then she went on to have more kids after that so she's yeah wow we were actually a little freaked out with Abby being pregnant right now we're we're scared that we were going to be pregnant with twins for the second
Starting point is 00:09:02 pregnancy we're like we we don't know if we could do that. Well, that's how I was trying to, I was really interrogating Papa at Christmas time this year. I was like, are you guys identical or not? Because it makes a difference when they're not, it's more genetic. I'm not 100% sure about that. I feel like you've almost got to be,
Starting point is 00:09:19 you guys look pretty identical. Yeah, I did look a lot like when they were little. Yeah, they look very identical, but I guess there is science, right? Like if your grandparents are identical twins, then that means that you're more likely to have twins, correct? I think so. Is that why we were worried?
Starting point is 00:09:33 I don't know. I don't know. He said it on the birth certificate. One up to. One of the three. That's what it said, Ed, don't say. Wow. You'd probably have to get tested to figure it out because I
Starting point is 00:09:46 guess if you didn't have a sonogram you wouldn't know. That's crazy. It's a never of placenta. Twins would be in one and yeah. Wow. The eternal would be in. Yeah. So being at the same high school, like how many kids are we talking at this high school? Because Abby and I went to schools, I think I think we had like over 2,000 kids. 165. 165. to schools. I think I think we had like over 2000 kids 165 There's like 42 in my class So grandma this is kind of a juicy question. Oh, were you ever attracted to Jerry? It's so weird being married to an identical twin though. I know you must think that I know it must seem that way
Starting point is 00:10:21 But no their personalities were very different Yeah, I That would weird me out if you had an identical twin because I find you very attractive and it just be weird to see your twin You must think that. I must seem that way, but no, their personalities were very different. That's so interesting. That would weird me out if you had an identical twin, because I find you very attractive and it just be weird to see your twin. I don't know, that would be weird. It really, it isn't. I can see where you would think that,
Starting point is 00:10:35 but it isn't true. That's such a different people. Oh my goodness. That's funny. In high school, did you or growing up, did you guys ever play jokes like identical twin jokes? I remember one. I think it was even the first grade we used to trade seats all the time in school.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah. Somehow we got caught. And you guys were just probably a bunch of trouble makers. And meeting each other, like, was there like a hallmark moment that you're like, ah, that was the moment that I saw my night in shining armor. Like, was there a moment where you, you guys remember like, that's where we kind moment that I saw my night in shining armor. Like was there a moment where you guys remember like that's where we kind of fell in love? Or I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Yeah, thanks so. It was on the porch of our, we had mutual friends, and I hung out with them. They were at his age. One was a preacher's daughter that I, you know, went to church with all the time, and the other one was Sylvia was a wonderful person.
Starting point is 00:11:26 And we were all and I know that something. They kept saying how they, they kept saying how they like you. Yeah. So it made me pay, start paying on more attention to him. And now your friends liked him so they knew. I did. Really. Kind of jumped on board. That's funny. Yeah. But Terry didn't like your friends. He liked you. I think it was more of a friendship.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah, yeah. And this was how old were you were you 16? Oh, you were 16? 15 maybe. Was I 15? Well, before that, you knew Pop-O, because didn't you say your small group when Pop-O had polio?
Starting point is 00:11:58 Because that's something big about your upbringing is that Pop-O actually had polio as a young teenager. 13. Yeah. Everybody in our town was very well aware of that. Really? Because I mean, as horrendous as polio was at that time, I don't remember anybody besides you having it.
Starting point is 00:12:18 No, not at that time. I mean, there must be somebody, but we did know them. I mean, it was the talk of the town when he got polio. Polio was just the most horrendous, scary thing. No, it's like cancer today, kind of. I mean, you know, it would strike and you didn't know how or why. And there was nothing much you could do for it, but it's scary things like iron lungs.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And yeah, kind of talk about like what polio is yeah went I'm curious so you got diagnosed with polio at 13 years old yes and when and when that happened was that how did that feel I'm really scary scary yeah yeah yeah it starts like a flu symptoms and high fever and then the weakness starts. I mean, I fell a couple of times and that's what. It affects your bones, right? Yeah, well muscles, mostly. Oh, muscles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And so you're feeling all these symptoms and how long did it take you from the onset of the symptoms to then tell someone like, hey, I'm not feeling so good. Well, my parents know it, but we, you know, we just, something would pass. Yeah. But then after a couple of days, my mother called the doctor and she said, he said, I'm pretty sure he has polio. So I went from call chest to Peoria, Illinois for tests
Starting point is 00:13:41 and that began a seven month stay in the hospital. Oh my goodness. Yeah So seven months, but how far is Peoria from call chest or you're just a kid? Probably around 90 90 mile Wow, and he wasn't your parents still to work, right? Yeah, so then he was at the hospital by himself as a 13 year old Holy cow. Yeah, that's scary. Yeah, it was scary. It was. That's so, your poor parents too, they're probably worried sick about you and wishing they could be there.
Starting point is 00:14:10 A lot of traveling back and forth on weekends, when they could. And it's not like, sometimes, you can see. My mother stayed, had an apartment not far from the hospital. She stayed for about six weeks. In the beginning. Wow. And she would come every day. And this was before video games,
Starting point is 00:14:27 and they didn't have a lot of TVs, I'm sure. Did you have a TV in the hospital? Oh, you did. A video game. I couldn't even move my hands. Mm-hmm. Well, the only thing that I could move was my tongue saw and my eyelids.
Starting point is 00:14:41 So were you on a feeding tube and everything? No, I only liquid food, liquids I could handle. That's crazy. Oh my goodness. So were you in an iron lung at that time too? No. You never had to go. There was one outside of my room but I didn't know about. Really? Yeah, they parked for me. Yeah, already. What and what is, I don't even understand fully what the iron lung, just helps you breathe, it's a pressure thing. Okay. It goes in and out.
Starting point is 00:15:06 I got in one, one time just to see what it was going. They're kind of, they're really scary looking. Yeah. You look up a picture of them. It's like a big, like metal cylinder. Big tank, big cylinder, yeah. And then pretty much I feel like when people were in an iron lung, it was like, they couldn't get out.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Yeah. When they lived the rest of their life. Really? Yeah. Once you go in, the chest don't know that it was. It was't get out. Yeah. When they lived the rest of their life. Really? Yeah. Once you go in, the chest don't out of things. Very solid and become out of it. I feel like it'd be even scarier.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I mean, getting that diagnosis alone is super scary, but then in a small town too. Yeah. And then also, like, we've had so many issues with our medical bills and health insurance. I wonder what I probably don't even know what that was like with the March march of dimes. It's called the march of dimes or what you know Yeah, kids would get these little cards in school with little slots and you'd go home and say and you know film everybody with people actually Iraticated polio with money from that just a little bit of money from everybody, you know, a total bill for seven months
Starting point is 00:16:09 wheelchair braces crutches $5,000 wait was the total bill I was like and Marche Dimes paid and this amount and Marche Dimes paid the whole thing Wow Marche Dimes is still around right now, but $5,000 back then, like we're talking about, was this the 50s? That's a lot, yeah. Yeah, this isn't the 50s. I don't know what that math is like. 56. I'm sure that's today that be well over 100, maybe over 200,000.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Probably. Yeah. But then the fact that they paid that all, that's incredible. The town was, I know they had fundraisers for him, you know. That's so sweet. And you went with a small group to go pray for Poppa at the hospital. I was going to Bible school that summer after he was diagnosed. I was in Bible school.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I remember Mrs. Nelson. Mrs. Nelson, you know. Yeah. Saying, you know, we need to pray for Terry this well. Wow. Oh, so you didn't go to the hospital, but you all just prayed for him. No. At the college, we lived real close to a college in the next town. And that's, they, their basketball team went to visit you because he and his brother were big
Starting point is 00:17:17 basketball players. My uncle was in their fraternity. Were you able to play basketball after polio? Yeah, I guess whatever some of the lingering effects that you had from that affected your legs? I still have weakness in my legs and ankles, but nothing. You're very mobile, so. Yeah. I wish I had been. But, in the seven months, in the seven months that you're in the hospital, like once that seven months was up, were you fully done with polio, or did you still have polio?
Starting point is 00:17:51 I was on crutches and still used the wheelchair. And I went to school and they would have a couple of kids help me up the stairs and help me down. That's because like schools weren't wheelchair accessible. Oh my goodness. Yeah. That has changed a lot. And so how long from that point on,
Starting point is 00:18:14 how long did it take for you to get fully back to normal, I guess, or at least back to normal enough, where you could go up the stairs and do everything on your own? Oh, it took years. It made it took quite a, at least five years to get, I did do the PE classes as best I could at that time. Wow. But it's still, once in a while, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:36 it's hands and things. I still think I might have a post-polio problem, but I've never been diagnosed with it. Wow. That's crazy. Do you remember seeing Terry at school? I was in the band. I remember marching once. I saw him in his wheelchair close to where he lived. And he was shocking because he was so thin. Yeah. It's this kind of a macho, I have something like that. and I was shocking to see.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Mm-hmm. Isn't crazy like if you could tell that little girl then that you're gonna marry him? Yeah. That is your husband. I know that's so weird. How wild is that? Did you guys have air conditioning back then by the way? No.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You didn't have air conditioning? No, we didn't have air conditioning. Well, Papa remembers when the first people in town got the first TV. Yeah. And then when they got the first color TV. Yeah. What? Our neighbors got a TV. And we'd go over there and watch the fights.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Watch fights? Bought to you on set, right? Right. Wow. I was born as a Dickens by love. The commercials. They were so funny. The commercials were funny.
Starting point is 00:19:39 That's hilarious. Have you ever go? You say bored as a Dickens? See, that's a fight. That's so natural to say. I've never gone uptown to the only appliance store in town and watching TV through the window. Oh, that's so cute. They were kind of like I feel like you guys had a movie relationship in high school because you guys wouldn't would always go on
Starting point is 00:20:02 Friday nights for pizza dates. Yeah. Yep. That's sweet. We could go to the show, eat pizza and buy a couple of dollars worth of gas for $5. Oh my gosh. What a steal. Yeah. Sometimes I'm maybe my friends, but all right, we'd look at our pockets, we'd come up with
Starting point is 00:20:17 75 cents and get 75 cents worth of gas. Oh my gosh. Actually would be enough to do something. 75 cents a gas could get you somewhere. 25 cents a gallon. Oh my gosh. Actually would be enough to. It's only like 75 cents a gas could get you somewhere. 25 cents a gallon. Oh my gosh. We need to go back in time. What did you guys do for fun back then? Like what was what was the it thing? Was she roller skated? Oh yeah, roller skating. That was about it. Now I had a roller skate. The lovely people ran it. There was afternoon skating
Starting point is 00:20:44 for the younger kids and then Sunday night, I mean Saturday night for older kids. And he, there was a bowling alley upstairs and he set pins for that. So that pins up with stairs and then she'd skate a while and come up and visit me.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Wait, wasn't it true that they wanted twins to set up the pins? Am I totally wrong? Yeah, totally wrong. I thought you told me that. No, but my brother did set pins, too. You guys were the twin pins, setters? Nine pins.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Maybe that's just where I got it from. That's so classic. Roller skating, working out at a bowling alley. So cool. You're a good boulder. I used to be. You still are. I want to see some pictures.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I just saw pictures from my great grandpa's younger years. And it was crazy seeing all the cars. Everything just, pictures from my great grandpa's like younger years and it was crazy Seeing all the cars like everything just I mean it was back in the day is back in time I kind of look like Elvis back in the day And it's and it's funny to sing like all the trends that come back right because like bits and pieces from the past and Coming back and become popular again different hairstyles like it's just it just fascinating. Yeah, there's the 60s were great. I mean, the hairstyles and the clothes were darling. Really?
Starting point is 00:21:51 The flip. Oh yeah. That is cute. That's still a cute hairstyle. And who was the president when you guys were going up? I remember. Eisenhower. That's my, that's one I remember.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Wow. Yeah. And he was very respected because he'd been a general in the war. Oh, really? Yeah. Which one was that? And no, it's so funny. There was not the political divide, then, that there is now. You just, whoever was president, you respected him. Really? And you didn't, you didn't diss the president. You, he was an important person, he was somebody to respect. Wow. That is sad how I think in recent years things have gotten so nasty on both sides. I don't know, that's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:33 So people weren't as aggressive towards people in power back then. Like so divided. Oh no. I don't think no. Wow. John Kennedy was president when. John Kennedy. Yeah. Just while we were in college, age, really. And you guys remember when he was assassinated?
Starting point is 00:22:53 Very clearly. Where were you? Like what were you doing when you found out that JFK was assassinated? Were you where you were? Well, I was driving a Pepsi Cola truck at that time. And I was delivering Pepsi at a gas station in McComb when I got the news that he'd been shot. Holy cow. And I was in college.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I was at the laboratory school where we made observation. I was waiting to make an observation in a class. I was standing against the hall, And I noticed the body language, like a science teacher in a janitor were talking, and they were going, I was just shaking his head like this. And I just observed the body language. It was all different.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It wasn't normal. Like that's what I was going on. And finally, somebody told me, the president had been shot. Oh my gosh. Unbelievable. And my next class was American history. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:47 And so it was very interesting to hear the professor talk about it. And then we watched TV all the time, because the TV was just filled with all the information. And then, of course, the man who shot him was killed. Was it that falling? Oh my gosh. I looked up some dates and I was researching this.
Starting point is 00:24:11 1963 is when it happened. When Lee Harvey was over there. Yes, yes, yes. Shot. Wasn't that weekend or something? They rested him. Well, I don't remember when, but not too long after that. Then somebody went into the jail and shot him.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Oh my gosh. Oh wow. I didn't even know that. somebody went into the jail and shot him. Oh my God. Wow. I didn't even know that. Was that just the craziest time? Was everyone just shot? Yes, really shot him. Lee Harvey Oswald. Was everyone just terrified of what was going on?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Because it seemed so chaotic at the time. Yeah, it was very, a very strange hard time. Very sad. In 1963, so you were in college, you were driving a Pepsi Cola truck. How old were you guys? Well I was 20 and 63 I was right. I was 19 right? Yeah And then after that you went on to be an elementary teacher
Starting point is 00:24:58 How long did you teach 34 year so you were in school for education then? Mm-hmm, and then you taught for 34 years and then Papa was a carpet layer. I went to business school and began with. I went to business school and I was like, and he had a job as a bookkeeper for a furniture company. Yes. And we got some good furniture when we were first married. That's nice. And then their carpet layers at that time were all in their 60s. So I began laying carpet.
Starting point is 00:25:32 There you go. So are we the only college dropouts in the room right now? Are ladies finished school and we didn't? Well, I'm one of them. How long did you go to college for? One year. Okay, one year. I went to business school after that. What, Kremlin, you got your master's, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:25:51 Uh-huh. But not right after I got to my bachelor's. Your dad was like, the boys were like, nine and 12 when I went back to the dad. That was a very common, I feel, like, for women to, first of all, go to college then, was it, were you the first go to college then was it? Were you the first college educated woman in your family? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And then especially for you to go on to get your masters. I'll, all the whimp, all the teachers were doing that because that's how you, you know, get higher on the pace now. Yeah. And you were? My mother was a teacher too. I was a teacher. Oh really? Yeah. She too elementary too. I was a teacher.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Oh really? Yeah. She had to quit when she got married because they didn't need married. You didn't need married. Women couldn't draw a salary that... Wait, what? Wait, hold up.
Starting point is 00:26:36 If you were a married woman and a teacher, you had a quit? Because the jobs are paid by the tax payers. They didn't think it was right for... And they wanted the job for the men Support their families So if you're a woman as a teacher and then you get married you could just be gone because they want to give the jobs to men Yeah, that's crazy. You're done. That's ridiculous
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah, and that was just completely normal back then. Yeah, wait. Why though? Wait because they want it They didn't want to take up a man's job, but after the war, the men started coming back, they needed the jobs. And the war you're talking about is Vietnam? No, it'd be World War II. World War II. And the Korean.
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Starting point is 00:27:51 Because you guys were born, I think when the World War II ended, right? Pretty much. I mean, it was still going on with our born, but a couple of years later, I think. I mean, I remember people talking about being rationed and during the year of the war years and it was a very, those were very patriotic times. Yeah. Well, it's amazing how like when a country goes through something so challenging, how people have to band together and support each other and love one another. I feel like we're very patriotic because of our background and we appreciate veterans.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Oh, yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah, because you couldn't be drafted because you had polio. But then were your brothers worried about? Yeah, my brother Jerry went. He went. Your brother went to the Air Force. Of course.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yep. In Vietnam. No. Prior to. Oh, the Korean War? He didn't go to war. No, okay. The Korean War was way over by then. Oh, but what was the draft for? Like what?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Why was there a draft? Well, he wasn't drafted. He enlisted, didn't he? Yeah, but before he was, so before he was drafted, they had a lottery system. Your birthday, they went down on, every birthday they pulled a number for everybody's birthday. Oh, and then it was Vietnam. So you find out on your birthday? No, I think the Selective Service sent you a message. Oh. Wow. You know, you could be anywhere from 1 to 386.
Starting point is 00:29:13 And if you, if you was in the top 50, you probably wouldn't get drafted. What was the sentiment like during that war? I remember in history class learning about it and learning about the people protesting the war and then how people were sent over. And they were, it was like against their own will, they were drafted, they had to go and they come home after you know fighting for what they feel is their country because their country made them go fight and Vietnam and then they have
Starting point is 00:29:37 all these people expinning on them and mad at them for going over. I think it was all political. You know what, I didn't have a good perspective on it until I got a lot of them. Yeah, really, yeah. I'm not kidding. I, something about me living through it, you, you hear things on the news, you hear people talking and I'm sorry to say
Starting point is 00:29:53 I didn't quite know what to think. Yeah. But, but now I look back and my hard aches for those soldiers who came home and were not honored. Yeah. And I'm so glad they have the honor flights now. And so they can get some recognition for what they did for our country.
Starting point is 00:30:08 It was a hideous war. Yeah. Your chances of dying were so high. Yeah. If you were drafted, a friend, we know we had the Agent Orange, a cancer. Due to that, we just went to its visitation not too long ago. Wow. Well, I'm curious too, because you guys lived through the civil rights movement as well.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And Abbie and I, we were recently in Memphis, Tennessee, and we went to this museum to learn more about Black History. And it was an incredible museum. What was the name of that museum again? I'm totally, I'm drawn to Blanker right now. I'll find it right now. But the museum was built at the shot that Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinating. And like walking up to that spot, I just, I got chills.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Because I, I mean, it was, it looked like- It's a national civil rights museum. It's called the National Civil Rights Museum. You walk up and you see this motel, the low-range motel. I've seen that in a motel. And you feel like you're transported back into the six years. You've seen all the pictures. And I'm like, wow, this is really cool.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It's like we're in the sixties right now. And then I noticed this memorial on the wall, and I noticed this balcony. Well, I love the door. Yeah, right on the door, and I'm like, no. That is the mountain. I'm getting chills right now just thinking about it. I'm like, no, there's no way.
Starting point is 00:31:18 It does send chills, because you're just like, this is literally where it happened. This is where you were shot. And the guy who shot him was from Quincy. He went to school on Quincy at one time. Really? Well, that's not a good piece of Quincy's history. That's so, so, so sad.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And you guys grew up in that whole era. Yes. Like, growing up in that era and then looking back to that movement now, what is that like, I guess? It was ugly. It was horrible. And again, I didn't fully comprehend it until it. Not too long ago, I was looking at the movie of the help. It is heartbreaking how those ladies were treated. And I know it's true because my relatives on my mom's side were Memphis, Tennessee area.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Really? Yes, and that's why I've been to Elvis's house and to Lorraine, that hotel by that hotel and everything. And I saw the way my aunt and uncle, a certain aunt and uncle that I had treated the black help, and it was, I was shocked. Yeah. I was shocked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:30 So it was almost like even back in the day, people you'd go down south and you could just see this big difference the way people were treating other people of color. Like that's just, and then we in the North, oh, we're not like that, but in some ways we were.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Yeah. You know, I can age gives you perspective. Yeah. I feel like we're living through a lot of like big history right now in the past couple of years. It's like I wonder how our perspectives will change on these things that are happening like as we get older too. Totally.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And like as we can look back on it more subject or more Deptively. Yeah. Because it's hard when you're hearing things from all different sides and everything is biased You're kind of like well like I don't know how to actually feel about this. Yeah. I just like thinking about how The people back then that really stood up for silver rights that must have taken some serious Courage. They were serious courage. True heroes. Because that's just so selfless to put your life on the line for a movement that's to have a better world for everyone. They couldn't as they did, but.
Starting point is 00:33:34 They couldn't as they did, seriously. A lot of them paid a very heavy price for that in their lives. Speaking of the 60s too, I would just think about this. You guys were alive when Neil Armstrong walked on the moon for the first time. Did you guys watch that on live television? Yeah, I think we were married. Edmonds are gone. And I must have been. It must have been in the summertime because I saw it on TV. Yeah, we got it on TV. Again, the test-oficion brought everything
Starting point is 00:33:59 right into our home. Yeah, we had a black and white TV at that time. We did. That's cool. Did other people have color and you guys had black and white? Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, a carpet layer. Yeah. Was that not the coolest thing? Like seeing a guy on TV walking on the moon? Was that crazy?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah. It was unbelievable. I don't think you really realized it at the time, you know. You get to thinking about it. That's just awesome. Oh, yeah. That's crazy. I mean, that happened over 50 years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:25 You ever look up at the moon and think somebody went up there and hit a golf ball? Yeah Matt, Matt literally says he wants to go to the moon. I think it's cool. I'd love to. I'm happy right where I have me too. I heard you a senator named to the moon. Yeah honestly someday is the one too. Oh my gosh. Yeah. You guys have left through some crazy history. Who knows what you got left to experience? It's very true. Oh my gosh. Okay, I don't want to stay on these like negative topics, but like the Cold War too.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I just think about this. The Cold War went on from like I think somewhere in the 60s till the 1990s. I don't know the exact dates. But was that weird too? Because I remember in high school, we were learning about the Cold War and history class. And I was taught that they would have kids go through drills. Of like, in case like we were bombed or nuked or something.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I can remember getting under my desk. Out of your desk. Oh my gosh. Like your desk and then some fields. I know. It keeps you from flying glass, is that brilliant? Yeah, we had drills, even when I was teaching, we had drills. What?
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah. What? Like bomb drills, where you just have to train kids on how to protect themselves in case there's a bombing from Russia or something. I know to stay away from the glass, that was definitely. Wow. Maybe the tornado drill? Yeah, I. I remember. Maybe the tornado drill. Yeah, I think it was tornado drill.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Isn't it crazy now? We have no drills for shooters, like active shooters in schools. That was never a thing back then, right? Never. I do remember after a combine, it's what it's called. Yeah. We started having telliness.
Starting point is 00:36:04 If we were on the playground run zigzag. Yeah to shelter Wow, it's gotta be so hard as a teacher like it describing that to kids and like that has to be is so Hitty us now what goes on in this country? Mm-hmm It's disappointing so you guys grow up and then this new thing called the internet comes out. Like what do you remember the first time you ever saw a computer? Do you remember the first time? Oh you do. I was huge right? Yeah they were. I remember we had one in school first and a lady said, slide me to help me. First thing, I had a piece of paper and pencil and I said, okay, how do you turn it on? So I wrote down push button on you know whatever I wrote everything down she told me wow and then
Starting point is 00:36:50 You know a big lizard It's about like that. No, it was a little deep. Oh, yeah, and was this in college? This was a noise teaching Oh, well you were oh, so even in college So you're using typewriters I used the tarp. When I was going to college, I had to do multiple, you know, I had to do like four copies. I used that many sheets of paper, and then I had carbon paper behind them. Wow.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Didn't the computer, when you worked at the college, wasn't it bigger than that though? That you had? There was computers at the college, especially in the library, but I didn't. I didn't. I mean, that's what you could have done. I didn't have them, but my master's degree they did.
Starting point is 00:37:33 But you put a telephone on them. Remember? I think. I was. I never had been good at technology. I think then probably computers were more for like the technologically advanced, and now they've We were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, we were having a good, And I did a punch, I typed punch. What? Yeah, I did. I kind of forgot about that. And now look at you now. You're Googling on your phone all day long. I am. I'm proud of you guys, honestly. Like, in some ways, I think your grandparents might
Starting point is 00:38:14 be better on their phone than my mom. I don't know. Sometimes grandma sends me some blank text. I'm terrible. I'm good. Top of your good. I've got a hat. Sometimes I ask Blake. He'll tell you different. Well, sometimes you need a little yeah grandma Okay, can we talk about you sending pornography? Oh, no, oh, no It was a virus right she I guess I
Starting point is 00:38:37 Shouldn't have but now I'm a real cautious about oh no I learned the hard way Did you send it like to your church maugraper? Oh I don't know. You send so to me your granddaughter. She's on the heavy. She grandma's so sorry. Oh my god. I'm so sorry. I just know if it's coming from grandma I'm going to probably not click on it. Oh my gosh. Because I don't think you know how to send a link anyway. So, links. Yeah, I know how to click on a link. No, you know how to click on them. That's my favorite. My favorite is you like, if your friends get hacked,
Starting point is 00:39:10 they'll send you that message like, I'm stuck in so and so country and I need you to send me $1,000 to help me. And it's like, oh, okay. I know you got hacked. No, but the ones that get gram are like, I can't believe I saw you. Is this you in this video or something like that?
Starting point is 00:39:25 The one that got me was, I told you we had the mutual friends on the porch, were we first kind of clear? Yeah. One of those girls that I loved dearly, and she has died of breast cancer now, but her daughter, that's what got me. It said, you know, her name. I just found this video. I just, I think you're in a picture.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And I, so I clicked on it. Oh, I was going to see my friend. That is awful. That's on me. As your granddaughter, it's my job to protect you against those hackers. So I'm going to take credit for that one. I think, I think a funny one, it's not necessarily a hacker that gets your grandparents,
Starting point is 00:40:07 but I think your grandma shared one of these you forwards like a post on Facebook that says, if you believe in God, you must share this. And if you don't, then you don't believe in God. And then I think like you end up sharing it because you wanna- You're almost shared a couple of those. I have to unsubscribe to all those now
Starting point is 00:40:22 because I get a whole lot of those and they just kind of a I love them. They're good, but they're annoying. They just keep coming I think you the internet shows you it's smarter now than you would ever believe it shows you what you feed it You know, oh my they've got you figured out grandma They do and I and honestly have to be I have to be real with you I kept my Facebook log your Facebook logged did on my phone just kind of monitor. Oh good. Well it's going on but now I got logged out so maybe you should re-log in for me. So you guys lived at a time. Show me how to do that. I will show you. Okay. You guys lived
Starting point is 00:40:56 at a time without cell phones. Like how how wild was that? Like you talk on the phone all the time. I annoyed his parents. On the cell phone though. On the home, on the timeline. You just talk on the timeline? On the timeline. Yeah, we talk all the time. Was that expensive? Like, would they bill you by the minute? Or how do that work?
Starting point is 00:41:13 Well, it's through an operator. They've been operator up town and the building. Two, four, two, why please? Yeah. Oh, because you want to talk to this man. That's what I was talking about. I know I know his parents, Mr. Oh, your parents must have been the same way.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Did they say can you get your girlfriend to stop calling? We need to free up the phone. I don't remember when we got the dials. Wow. Wait, what was it? Oh, it was the pun. Wait, you still have one of those phones in your basement? We do.
Starting point is 00:41:43 It's an anti-acoustic. But what was before the dial? Because the dial said it was just a regular phone, with a phone. It literally doesn't have any dial on it. You just, because you were just the operator, when you picked up the operator would say, never please.
Starting point is 00:41:59 But the old phone had a crank on it. Before one of those. Those were before. And then there might be on a party line and you'd pick up somebody else and be talking. Oh my god, a 3 party line. And then people would pick it. And people would pick it.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Oh, in a small town that's got a custom drama. That's where gossip started. Oh, now it's on social media. Yeah, yeah, it's so funny. That's kind of really sweet though that you guys were talking on the home phone and Matt and I, we talked for hours on FaceTime. Oh, yeah. We would keep a FaceTime call going all night.
Starting point is 00:42:33 We would talk and just keep chatting. We also wrote notes. Aww. We did. I asked a lot of note writing. I asked Grandma last night at dinner. I asked Grandma, was that at dinner? I asked you, I was like, is papa romantic and she said oh yeah
Starting point is 00:42:47 Papa you are romantic. Yes, I am That's sweet. What are some of your like most memorable dates you went on like We're when you were married or when you're dating problems Ah dances and yeah, papa you're a big dancer. We did dance over. Yeah, I would never very good. I was okay You were fine. Oh no, but it was really sweet. You danced with me on our wedding. Yeah, remember that I can't tell you how he worried about that. You were worried. Oh He was you didn't go. Yeah, he almost said I can't do it All the men I it, except for Matt.
Starting point is 00:43:26 My wedding, we're nervous. You, my grandpa and my dad was probably the most nervous of all. But they all did it for me. They showed how much they did. You know what, he took his shoes off. Because he was, was that it? You were barefoot?
Starting point is 00:43:39 He was in his talking, talking feet. So that's cute. That was how he could help, didn't it? Yeah. I have kind of a stupid question to ask. What is parking? You guys were talking about dating, like growing up dating, and I don't know, back in the day.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Let's not go there. You said you weren't going to ask me first, but what is parking? No, it's parking. I did. Is parking a bad term? I didn't. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Not if you're parking. Now you've crossed the line. OK, I don't want to cross the line. We're not if you're parking. Oh. Now you've crossed the line. I don't want to talk about parking. I just want to know. Okay. There he goes. He won't check out. Just answer this.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I don't think so. You can just nod your head. Is it more than kissing? Is parking more? Not one there. We're not going there at all. It's not the hard boundary. The hard bet. We're not talking about parking on the
Starting point is 00:44:26 Conrad I have boundaries. I have to So but like speaking of I don't know what he's like you want to go. I'm not Moving on moving on. I'm sure. Did you guys have a driving like would you go to the driving movie and and you know we watch the movie didn't we? You would would you watch the movie? We watched the whole movie. I love movies. Grandma, I love movies. I have a nice return on a movie
Starting point is 00:44:50 and we probably didn't watch the movie. One time I was so engrossed in a movie. Well, this I was with my folks this time. My dad went and got some peanuts. And I assumed they were sheld, but they weren't. And I was eating, I was playing the show in my mouth Sheld no, I was eating shells, I was that's how I'm gross. I was in the movie I love movies. Yeah, I loved him and back then where movies ever on TV or was it really only at the theater?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Only at the theater really oh yeah, and there were no DVDs. Oh precious. Oh, no, no, no, wow That's crazy was the lip they gone with the wind I heard that like gone with the wind would kept getting rerun over and over Back in the day. Yeah, I don't I don't We're at the movies. They kept playing that one. That's crazy movies What was there a movie that's like super memorable that came out back in the day that you were so excited to go see? Like maybe Greece or on that probably was. The movie I kind of remember was the Humphrey Bullguard and and oh gosh I could come up with the actresses and Catherine Hepburn maybe. It was he
Starting point is 00:46:00 was a drill was a pilot of a some kind a boat. It was like in Africa. And... PT 105 or something. No, African Queen might have been the name of the movie. Okay. She really old. And it was black and white of course. And it was...
Starting point is 00:46:18 I can't really remember very much about it. It was a very good movie. And that might have been where I had peanuts, shells and all. So peanuts, peanuts were the thing like you wouldn't have popcorn. Oh, so there's no popcorn at the movies back then. You got peanuts and crackers. Well, it's a drive-in. Oh yeah, there's popcorn at the movie. Oh, at the theater. Okay. It's a theater. Have you guys ever been to a drive-in? We have. There are always double features, aren't they? I guess. I can never stay awake for the second one.
Starting point is 00:46:44 They had one about 45 minutes away from our college town. It's been a drive 45 minutes go watch a driving movie. It was cool. It was a really neat experience. It was. That's really fun. Yeah. I just can never stay awake. For the double features. I don't remember the whole feature. I just remember one. Yeah. Just one. And so could people get away with way more back than though because there was no cell phones, there was no tracking where, just one. And so could people get away with way more back than though, because there was no cell phones, there was no tracking where people are at?
Starting point is 00:47:07 Like my parents, when I was a kid, they could see my location at all times. They're like, you need to have your location on on your phone. So I'm sure people back in your day could get away with. Well, probably in a small town too. People back when they did something wrong, they got punished. Oh really, got punished.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yeah, I was gonna ask you, what do you think about kids today? Cause people got spanked in school when you asked her in school, right? Yes, I did. Did you ever have to wear a dance cap? Oh, that was a backup. Oh, that's a backup. You're going way back. Hey, I think it's crazy that they could smack kids in schools.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Well, they didn't smack them in the face or anything, but they would. I remember a teacher at Bca Yard stick on it. I remember that too. On a boy. Oh my gosh. That's crazy though. Yeah. We got our name on the first grade,
Starting point is 00:47:53 the teacher had a box on the chalkboard. She did something wrong. She put your name in that box. When I was in first grade, the teacher was playing a song on the Victorola, is that where it was called, it was a thing you took, right? Anyway, it was playing a song on the Victorola, is that what was called her? It was a thing, you took her in. Anyway, it was a bouncy little song, and the girl
Starting point is 00:48:10 across the sit-across for me, we joined hands, and we were going like this to the music. The teacher gets up, and she goes, this is a board, and she writes our names in the ball. Because we were doing this. Oh! School was very strict. We were just trying to have fun in school, and you were doing this. Oh, school was very strict. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:48:26 You were just trying to have fun in school, and you got in trouble. And she remembers that, because she was a good kid. And I know I was, I told my parents, I got my name aboard. Oh, wow. Were they disappointed with you? And they said, well, why?
Starting point is 00:48:39 And I told them they got, oh, yeah. Yeah, they sort of pulled it off. Oh, my goodness. How about you gotten into some trouble in the day? No. Get some trouble. I know you call me trouble. Do you?
Starting point is 00:48:52 Well, he threw, he and his brothers threw rocks at cars when they were little. What? My aunt told us. What? We lived right on the highway. You were throwing rocks at cars. I think they were like, we five. Probably about five. We were sitting in the gutter firing cars, was they went by?
Starting point is 00:49:11 Papa was grandma's paper boy, like for their family. Growing up. Run across the flower bed on my bike. That's cute. Did you have a crush on her even then? No, we didn't know her. We didn't know each other. I was going to ask you guys, this is kind of unrelated when we're talking about, but since
Starting point is 00:49:24 you were talking about how it was so quick that you guys fell in love on that porch, like, does that make you believe and love it first sight? I think things can, sparks can fly at a time, you know? That's sweet. I mean, I heard of a, we had kind of a, we had kind of a, off on again, off again, relationships, those days of years.
Starting point is 00:49:46 But now your stable askin' me? That's so cool. Yeah, how you've been together 56 years, or about to be 56 years, but then in the beginning, it was a little rough around the edges. Oh yeah. Because that's funny, because now, like, if we were to talk to a couple of now, things were rocky now, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:50:03 Oh, it's only gonna get harder, so don't. But you guys are the opposite of that, so. Yeah, that's hilarious, though, because there's couples that do everything right. They check off all the boxes, and then their relationship doesn't work out. They divorce, whatever. And then there's couples that do everything wrong.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And they live together happily ever after. I mean, you guys, if we probably would have known you back in the day and seen you guys, you know, get back together then break up, get back together, break up, get back together. You guys need to not get married. But look at you. I mean, you got married.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Well, once we got married, we were committed. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, we do believe till death do us part. Yeah. There you go. But I considered I considered. I, I, no, no.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I feel so blessed that I grew up with you guys, like as an example of marriage and just like, just an example of like family too, the what you guys value and, you know, you know. Yeah, the Lord is, gets the credit is gets the credit. That's all. For godliness and happiness. Probably three five and six. There you go. That's so we've we've talked we've talked a lot about the past. We've talked a lot about growing up which oh by the way I want to ask you this. Always have like
Starting point is 00:51:18 when you got air conditioning for the first time. Was that just the best thing ever? We like to froze the death. That's true. I remember the ladies in churches? We liked to froze the dead. Yeah, that's true. I remember the ladies in churches to wear sweaters all the time. They could hardly adjust. That's hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:33 So you did it like it? It was uncomfortable because you were cold all the time. No, we liked it. We liked it. It was wonderful. It was wonderful. And same thing with the TV. Did you guys just think the TV was the coolest thing ever?
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yes. Yeah. I was in third grade when we got our TV set and I it it just felt like somebody was in the room I remember going behind the couch and hiding And it was like you couldn't get very much You know that we can get we Real set that that you want to channel that the antennas they put up. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you had to turn to He had a rotor that you'd supposedly turn it to where you wanted it from the inside Oh, it wouldn't work about half the time that you got and turned by hand the satellites Turn it by no
Starting point is 00:52:19 Ariel. Oh, I don't even know what that is. There's an error Picks up the signal. Oh, I don't even know what that is. There's an error. I don't know. Picks up the signal. I just think it turns. Oh gosh. You've said it earlier, we were talking about this. Like, what would your advice be for young people? And you said your phones down, folks. Yeah. Put your phones down.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah, put them down and live your life. Yeah. I mean, that's just so crazy that you guys grew up at a time where when you were our age, there were no phones. There were no social means. I mean, you had home phones, but you didn't have cell phones, and not everything was recorded.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Like, that must have just been so different. It was so much better. So much better. No, younger, like, we woke up every morning looking for a baseball game. I mean, let's go get some, so maybe we can get enough guys to play baseball. And in the summertime, that's all we did.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Mm-hmm. Look forward to it every did. Mm-hmm. Look forward to it every day. Mm-hmm. And you're around people outside. Yeah, that I've been outside. I've been outside. I've been outside.
Starting point is 00:53:13 My vector mental health. Yeah. Like jacks and paper dolls and... Paper dolls. I've never even heard of paper dolls. Paper dolls. Because now people can be fully entertained completely by themselves. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Which is not how it's made to be. You're made to be around people. Right. And... But you guys have phones. I mean, do you like using your... Well, Grandma's on the Facebook. You're on the Facebook.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah. I'm kind of selective about my friends. Yeah. That's fun. You guys are on, you guys are pretty with it with your social media though. Yeah, but I can see where it can really rob you of a lot of time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Got to, yeah. Just stay off of it. It is sweet though that I know you guys watch a lot of our videos. A lot of times we'll go to your house and be like, I just saw your recent YouTube video. And yeah, we do. We watch, I just thought of something that was funny.
Starting point is 00:54:02 One time we pranked you guys and we made a TikTok. We were kissing on your couch in front of you guys. Oh my god You know when people are mad at us because of that. Oh my god. That was incredibly disrespectful But it's funny because it's like you can't in a like 30-second tiktok You can't like explain your relationship with your grandparents, but like we're pretty off the cup I'm gonna pull the blind but like, we're pretty off the cuff with the outfit. I know, I would implore the blind. Yeah, you would.
Starting point is 00:54:26 But like, we can pda in front of you guys and you guys don't find that disrespectful or like you guys, I don't know, you guys have a little bit of pda sometimes. Pda. Public displays of affection. We're really close with you guys. We make jokes with you that probably other people
Starting point is 00:54:43 wouldn't make with their grandparents. We're a lot, we, I mean, you guys. We make jokes with you that probably other people wouldn't make with their grandparents We're a lot a lot. We I mean you guys pretty much raised me so I have a lot like both of you. I have pop-alls we's I have grandma's sassy nitch Oh my gosh, and I'm just worried that maybe one day. I'm gonna well not worried I actually know that I'm exactly gonna be just like the key when I'm 79 no you're gonna be, you're gonna surpass me by so much. Oh, no. Oh, you're amazing woman. Always been so bright. And you, grandma, you don't even know how many people you've touched with your life though,
Starting point is 00:55:19 because like I get messages all the time from people saying like your grandma is the kindest person. She, this is something that is really special about you. Is that you remember people's stories and like everything about them, their name, their families. Like, you remember people so well and that means a lot for people to be like, I didn't think that she even remembered me. And you're like, I've been praying for you for years
Starting point is 00:55:41 and like, you just are really, you're intentional. That's what you are. You're very intentional with people that are in your life. I have friends that are better that way and they inspire me. Well, I just hope I can become more like that. You guys have the Swedish relationship. I just love having these conversations. I don't want to get too ahead of myself,
Starting point is 00:56:02 but I had some questions prepared for you guys about slang that young people use And I want to see how good you guys are at knowing what the young people slang is. I bet we don't know it. You guys ready? Okay, the first one would be if someone says, oh that's so dope. What does that mean? What does that so dope mean? I don't know, do you?
Starting point is 00:56:22 Man, it's so great. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good. That means like cool. That's dope a lot. I say dope a, do you? Man, it's so great. So, yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good. That means, like, cool. That's a dope a lot. I say dope a lot. I'm like, oh, that's dope.
Starting point is 00:56:30 That's cool. Yeah, that's something to me. To me, dope is dogs. We were like, that's also what dope means. That's, yeah. That's what goes in my mind. What about if something's fire? Oh, that's fire.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I have no idea, do you? That's hot. Yeah, I mean, it's like really good. You only like with people who use it in like a reference to food. Oh really? But like that food was fire. I mean, it's never gonna be like that.
Starting point is 00:56:52 I would not know what they're talking about. Yeah, what about if something hits different? Like if I listen to a song, I'm like, oh, that song hits different. I don't know. Make a guess. Hits different. You don't like it? No, it's actually a good thing, so it's different.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It's kind of saying, oh, that's good. That's a lot better than normal. That's weird. It's different. It makes no sense. Do you guys remember any slang from back in your day? Do people say jiffy or stuff? Jiffy. What slang for a jiffy? I'll be back in a jiffy or stuff? Jiffy? What's the name for?
Starting point is 00:57:25 Jiffy. I'll be back in a jiffy. Yeah, yeah, that means quickly. But was that like something cool people said or? I don't know. No, you don't have to be cool. I feel like that's kind of dorky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Is that going to jiffy? What is? It's normal. What if someone says me and I go, oh, I'm dead. I say I'm dead. You're in trouble? No, I'm in trouble I say I'm dead. You're in trouble. No, I'm in trouble. That's what I would guess at the end.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Somebody what? If I say I'm dead, someone says something. So somebody, yeah, say they crack a joke and I go, I'm dead. I don't know. You give a really big hint. I don't think that's it. I gave a big hint.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You don't get it, you didn't get it. I don't know, you mean? I mean, you think it's hilarious. You think it's funny, like I'm dead, That's so funny. I think all these are weird They are weird. I never heard of it. To me, they're weird. Oh my goodness. Okay last one. What about it? There's better ways to communicate. There's better ways. Yeah. Oh, you had You had just like back in the day. Don't make far far away.. Okay, I can't think of anything but I just think of it. What about if it's like let's get lit. Oh yeah, that's lit.
Starting point is 00:58:30 On my mama, we lit. I don't know the real thing. I think that's a tick, is that a tick talk? Yeah, that's that's a tick talk sound. I don't know about it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You don't want to. I think lit is normally like in reference like getting drunk Well, I mean, it's like part like let's party or let's party. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean getting drunk It means let's get lit. Let's go Today they said I was really lit. I heard that oh really. Oh, yeah, they loaded it all comes back loaded
Starting point is 00:58:59 I for that loaded. Oh my goodness. That's hilarious. Well, I can't thank you guys enough for being on this podcast. Thank you so much for being on the unplanned podcast episode 10. Just dear the best. And I'm so glad you come to visit even though you guys don't like getting on your bed. I'm trying leaving already. And leaving. Yeah, I'm trying. We're gonna be back in a few weeks. Yeah, you'll be back. You'll be back. Actually like two weeks. We'll see you again. And we're seeing you guys. And. That was great.
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Starting point is 01:00:13 And you can go home. Wow. So this is from at Lauren O'Grady, Future Mrs. Tremaine. That's so cool. So maybe you're getting a wedding. Are you able to fly though? Like if you wanted to go to this wedding,
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