The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Reese Weaver on Dallas Cowboys Cheerleadering, Filming a Netflix Doc & Balancing 2 Jobs

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

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It's done so well already. We're all very hopeful for it, but we have no idea. What happens if you get pregnant while you're on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders? Oh, wow. Can you still dance? Has there ever been a pregnant? I'm not too sure if that's something that we've really thought about I think that's just kind of an unspoken thing someone comes and takes a picture with us They either have a football they hold something or we're behind them

They're not allowed to touch us because there are times where you're like this is a little weird kind of give an eye to like The security guy like any other NFL cheer, you have to have another job. The internet was saying something about 75,000 a year. Yeah, never trust what Google says. My wife has been obsessed with the new Dallas Cowboys cheerleader show on Netflix. So that's why we flew all the way to Dallas to interview Reese Weaver.

She was one of 36 girls to make the team, but behind the scenes, the pressure on these girls is very intense. On top of the physical demands of NFL cheerleading, Reese was working a second job to pay the scenes, the pressure on these girls is very intense. On top of the physical demands of NFL cheerleading, Reese was working a second job to pay the bills as well as planning a wedding. We talk about everything from navigating body image to meeting Dolly Parton and how she slid into her husband's DMs all on today's episode. What's up, dudes?

And welcome back to the unplanned podcast. There's always a weird pause after you say that. It's just like, like do you think the live studio audience is gonna clap? I know there's literally nobody here. We're at Reese's house everybody. And this is such a cozy place. I love your couch by the way.

Thank you, thank you. It is so nice. Best purchase ever. We were just talking about that. Can you tell us a little bit about how you saved $100 and delivered the couch yourself to your house? Yes, I can. And if my husband was here, he would butt in because he'd be like, we just saved $100,

okay? But we, so obviously, like y'all know, we don't have an elevator, so we had to go up the stairs and do it. But I will say Will did majority of it. I can't complain. I might have done like maybe three pieces. He carried it by himself pretty much. But the thing about, so they're all pieces.

So it was like you have to take the cushions, walk them up the stairs, or you have to take like the bottom piece. And there's one, two, three, four, five four five and then half so probably about ten pieces we had to bring up then they came with these pillows and they're not cute pillows so they're stuffed back there we didn't pay for the pillows but they came with the couch so anyways we've got some. If you want some fairy pattern pillows, please let me know.

I'll see you after this. I'm bummed that Will couldn't be here. I know he's on a bachelor party trip, which is super fun for him. So shout out to Will, but I just wanted to ask him. Shout out to Will. But I wanted to ask about your love story because you guys are just like such a genuine happy

couple and so wholesome. And so like, I don't know. I think like you talked about it a little bit on the show, but I just wanted to know maybe there's some other stuff that people don't know about you guys. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So if you watch the show, you will notice that we met in college. Will is from Alabama. I'm from Florida, went to school at University of Alabama,

and we met at a basketball game that I was cheering at. And Will, if you watch the show, know that he's the biggest Alabama basketball fan ever. And he just noticed me cheering. There's like a really cool interaction between the mascot and I and like a little kid and this is such a sweet story. I get like really giddy talking about it.

But being on the dance team, we're all one program and it's the spirit program. So you have your all-girl cheerleaders, your co-ed, dance team, Alabama dance team, and big owls which are our mascot. So we all know each other and and I knew who the Big Al was that day, and I saw this little boy trying to get Big Al's attention, and so I was like, oh, let me try to get Big Al, because Big Al's busy. Everyone wants a picture with Big Al.

So I grabbed Big Al, and I was like, hey, Big Al, this little boy wants a picture with you, and got a picture, and Will had said that he watched that entire interaction and he was like I have to know like who you are and messaged me or I guess I slid up on the DMs but he followed me first so yes let's get that straight. Technically you could say I made the first move but he actually made the first move. Exactly thank you Abby because everyone else thinks oh I slid up on the first move, but he actually made the first move. Exactly. Thank you, Abby, because everyone else thinks, oh, I slid up on the DMs, but how could I do that unless he followed me?

Right? There you go. I get what you're saying. I can hear his voice already say, like, well, no, no, no, she slid up. Was he the leader of the student section? So there's a president of the Crimson Chaos, which is the student section, but it was him and a few other people that were super close to the front row, and he never was president,

but everyone around him, there was a few very consistent guys. He was on the committee. He was on the committee, yes. He was literally on the committee, but he knew a lot of basketball managers, a lot of the players, just because when you're super loyal to a team, you kind of really get to, I guess basketball's more intimate too, you really get to know the players, just because when you're super loyal to a team, you kind of really get to, I guess basketball is more intimate too, like you really get to know the players, you're closer obviously, and then he's just the biggest Alabama basketball fan ever, so.

That's so fun. Yeah, yeah. So what was your first date together? It was to another Broken Egg Cafe, which was a little outside of the college campus and I remember being so nervous because I had never been on a date before with a guy and I was like uh I'm not even gonna tell anyone because I don't know how to do this and so we had went we went to another broken egg and he had been asking me and I unfortunately just kept being so busy like I had a game or there was a practice or something like that and he

thought I was just kind of ditching him a little bit and but we went there we had a great time and then the next date I think or like catching up was after the pandemic happened because we had met right before the school shut down. And so when we got back, we met up at an Arby's out of all things. And he had called me and he was like, hey, which Arby's are you at? And I'm like, oh, I'm on the one on campus. And he's not at the right Arby's that I guess like miscommunication or whatever. But I thought it was so funny because he's like, no, stay right there.

I'm there. I'm going to be there in just a second. and so it was Arby's and then we just started hanging out more. That's so sweet. That's so random I feel like I'd never go to Arby's I don't really know people that go there like why why Arby's is that like your favorite spot? I don't think I've ever been to Arby's like ever but it's just because I think he was gonna go eat something and then I had to go to a practice in order to be an athlete at Bama. You have to like pass physical tests and stuff and so I was training for my physical test coming up before school started

and I remember he was like, well, the Arby's is really close to the athletic center. Like, do you just wanna meet there? And I'm thinking, sure. I'll have a roast beef sandwich. I mean, I feel like you do anything to see someone and you're like, yeah, Arby's sounds great. I love it. I think this is my second time going to Arby's ever.

And I think I maybe have gotten like a kid's menu with like apple slices and I left. Their fries though are so good. They actually are really good. The curly fries. They look curly. Yeah. So I didn't because I was gonna go run after so I'm like I gotta be really careful and cautious on what I'm eating and then you know Arby's out of all places was the best choice. But it's just it's so us it's so classic and funny that yeah of course we met on Arby's. Who doesn't right? That's really sweet. I love that he was your first boyfriend

because we only dated each other too. So I feel like a lot of people are like, don't you feel like you should figure out what you want first? Yes, everyone says that. And I'm like, yes and no, but I feel like with just being so busy in general throughout my childhood and having performances, practices,

I never had time for a boyfriend and then two older brothers also kind of plays a role in that. Not really, but I'm sure. You know, I'm just so busy. Just so busy growing up. You're always in extracurricular activities or hustling, bustling, and then you get to high school and then things are just extremely busy. Go to college and then honestly I don't want to like say if it wasn't for the pandemic but seriously if it wasn't for kind of the hybrid year that we had we had significantly less games um that we couldn't cheer at and so I actually got to spend more time than I've ever had, like ever in my life, to spend it with friends and Will.

And so it was kind of a blessing in disguise that, yes, there's so much sadness and just weird stuff happening in our world with COVID, but it was also an opportunity where I didn't have a lot of things going on and I could actually spend quality time with someone than if it didn't happen. Right, right. Yeah. I slowed you down. Yeah. On the documentary I'm pretty sure you said that it took like 15 dates before you let him put your arm around you. Oh my gosh. Yes. Just because like anytime. So we would always hang out with our

mentors at their house which was literally like less than a mile from my apartment that I was staying in. And at the time, Will was living with our mentors because he was the youth intern for the youth pastor. And so he lived with him because of the hybrid year, he had classes online, he had classes, some that were in person. So his mentor was like, hey, just live with us.

And so we would hang out there. And so anyways, anytime we would go over there, we would watch like The Office. Had I ever watched The Office before, Will? No, but we were gonna watch The Office. Did I ever watch Harry Potter before, Will? No, but I was like, okay, I'm gonna like really try here, you know? And so we would always watch like something like that and I would always just get like uncomfortable because I never sat by a guy before and we

would just, you know, watch the office, something that I'd never seen before, trying to be comfortable with that and then tried to kind of impress like the mentors too because now that they're my mentors too they were just such incredible people and I was like oh their opinion really matters like I want to make sure like I'm putting my best foot forward and everything and so anyways anytime it came to like getting a little closer or like talking a little bit closer like putting his arm around, it was always really hesitant. I was like, I don't know if I can do this. And he would ask me to, kind of towards,

I guess a few months dating, he's like, well, do you want to be my girlfriend? And I'd go, oh, let me think about it. Like, I have to consult. Yes, and there was a time that I guess I had left and it was already late and Will is going to bed and Taylor and Lindley had already gone to bed and Taylor and Lindley would always be like, did she say yes? And he'd be like, no, not tonight.

Oh, so this was multiple times that he was asking you to be his girlfriend and you said no. Yes. Dang. Were you to be his girlfriend and you said no. Yes. Dang. Were you talking to your girlfriend? I might have been persistent. That's like, yeah, that's bold. Like good for Will having the confidence.

Yeah, he did. But like for you, were you just, it was a really big decision because you had never dated anybody? Yeah. Were you talking to friends that were advising you on what to do? Yeah. So my roommates, I feel like I kind of kept it more of a secret because I really wanted it to come super organically and I wanted to make sure I knew, I felt like more advice, I'd just be more confused.

I'm already an indecisive person as it is and so I valued my friends' opinions but I didn't really talk about that decision. I guess I wanted to come from me and happen confidently, boldly, and I was always afraid because I never wanted to walk into a relationship because I wanted to give it 100%. And obviously with the very unknown year that we were walking into, I was nervous because I didn't want to say yes

and then not be able to commit. My prayer always was, if I'm going to meet my husband, let it be him and I don't really want to have to keep going through this process. I said that on the docu-series and a lot of people were like, did you settle? You know, all those things, but really it was like my answered prayer. And so when I felt confident about my decision and I said yes, it was more that it happened and it was ordained by him rather than getting other people's opinions because I was scared. I was like, I don't really know what to do.

It was more fun to become friends with him than it was just to go right off the bat as boyfriend and girlfriend. Like romantic. Yeah. I love that. That's kind of how we like we are in a way. 100%. Like we used to like FaceTime for like 12 hours straight

because we were long distance and you guys even did long distance for a while too while you were on the show, right? Yes, yes. A little bit, a little bit of long distance here and there. Once he finally got his job, it was still kind of hard just because we were balancing, like seeing each other, et cetera.

It was hard at the time. And I even told Will, I was like, we are not a couple that can do long distance. There are so many people that make it work and I know it is so hard for people doing long distance, but there's some people that are just blessed with being able to handle that and I'm just such a people person that I can't be by myself for so long. Like I need to know, like my person is with me. And so it was, that was hard to navigate a little bit in the beginning, but now we're married so it's a lot more fun.

I get to see my best friend every day. Okay. I've got to ask because you just casually brought up your two brothers and I feel like people probably don't realize that you have older brothers and yeah, not just one, but two. So what were, what were what were they saying when you were telling them about Will what were they like did they did they ever have an altercation with Will where they like sat him down and

said okay like if you hurt my sister like you're you're a dead man like what did they what did they say to Will you know I actually don't know what my oldest said to Will but I remember they met him for the first time. It was kind of a while and because going to Alabama, I never had a lot of opportunities going home just because especially being on the dance team, there was games and when people could go home for the holidays, my holiday break was working towards nationals. Thank you to Dreamland for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. Are you a parent that is struggling to sleep because your kid just keeps waking up in the night? Because we've been there and it's horrible.

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It would be you know seeing probably grandma, grandpa, a few friends and then getting back because I had practice or school. But the very first time the younger oldest brother met Will, Will went in for like a hug and Shay was like, I was more expecting a handshake, but I'll take a hug, you know? And I'm like, oh, okay, awkward. But it's funny because obviously Shay knows my personality and found out Will's personality really quickly because I guess guys are more like, hey man, like handshake, then bring it in.

But Will was like, hey, nice to meet you. Did you try to hug your dad? I think it was a good handshake. Okay, okay. I think it was a solid handshake at first. What about your mom? Did he shake your mom's hand or give your mom a hug? I think it was a hug.

Okay. I think it was a hug. And this is a fun fact, but the very first time my parents met Will, his best man also met my parents. So Will met my parents and his best man all at the same time, which I thought was really special. It wasn't just a one-on-one with Will and I. It was like my parents came and it was Will and the best man and my roommate. So it was special to have more family friends involved.

And who is this best man? Yeah, so the best man was Blaine. He's from Alabama, long childhood friend. And it was the first game of the year and the only football game I actually could do it because this was during COVID. And so my parents came and the very first time they met Will was with Blaine as well. And so Blaine was like, wow, I'm super honored that I get to meet your girlfriend's parents

at the same time you met them. So I don't know. I thought that was a fun fact to include. That's sweet. And the big day was in April. It was April, yes. And and fun fact it was 420. Wow. Yes.

I would not have expected that from you. No, I know and everyone thinks that and what's funny is I remember being so. I love how you just casually said that like it was 420. It was 420. Like it was a holiday. Because everyone's like, Reese do you know what 420 means?

And I was like, no it's gonna like, Reese, do you know what 420 means? And I was like, no, it's going to be our anniversary. Anniversary 42024. I think that's like so cute. But didn't really expect that. That was the only date that the venue was open. Because sure, now that I know what 420 means, no one wants to get married on 420.

And Will was like, Reese, you really don't know what that date is. I'm like, you're really making me nervous. I thought it was just gonna be a cute anniversary date. And he's like, it is and it always will be, but it will always also be something else too. I was like, oh, awkward. Your wedding must've been lit.

Everyone just knows. What were the jokes? What were the jokes people were cracking on your wedding day? All the jokes were, oh, I'm bringing this or I'm bringing this. And of course everyone thought it was so fitting that that was going to be our wedding date because they were like out of all people, 420 was going to be Will and Reese's wedding date. Like it's just, it was more funny than anything, anything but you know everyone wanted to be lighthearted about it and yeah.

Did Will know though like right away when you picked out the date that 420 like did he was he aware of the date or did it take? Yeah he was aware of the date because I guess I don't know like I was a little more sheltered I will say but he was like yeah it was available and it was perfect because with DCC a lot of the girls that are getting married or engaged have to wait until the spring because of being an offseason and so This was though before I found out I made the team This was though before I found out I made the team. So, plan A was if I were to make the team, then this would probably be the best time to do it in.

But if I didn't make the team, this would also still be the best time doing our wedding here because I would want to have retried out if I didn't make the team. And that was kind of the area where tryouts would happen and kind of getting back into training camp would start and pick up. So I was really trying to put my best foot forward

and thinking, okay, plan A would be if I were to make it, you know, this would probably be the best time, but if I didn't, this would also still be the best time because I would be trying out again. So the whole time you were filming the show I guess that was more so a lot of it was after training camp and stuff but you're also wedding planning. Oh my gosh I had like five jobs like all last year because wedding planning is literally a full-time job I feel like but yeah so all last year you know you're secreting

not secreting that's not even a word but you're really hushed about the docu series and no one really knew what was going on but I had that going on I was a rookie on on the team and that was a lot just in general and then also moved out to Texas and trying to figure out life and what else to do outside of DCC and then also wedding planning in a whole different state then we got married in Florida so that was really hard trying to navigate times to meet with my vendors and stuff like that so last year was busy. But I'm very grateful.

That's commitment too to plan your wedding around the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Yeah, it is, it is. And I feel like anyone who wants to pursue this dream or any sort of dream, they're gonna have that in mind. But at the end of the day, I wanted to be on this team so badly that, and I also wanted to get married in the spring, so I felt like it was kind of perfect

in a sense, but yeah, it is a lot of commitment and a lot of the girls, I mean, I can't even think of any of the girls that are currently married right now who have had a wedding in season. It's just not really possible, honestly, because we're so busy. You're like, it wouldn't be, you couldn't have a minute to like enjoy newlywed life, I feel like,

because there's so much going on. Has being a cheerleader for the Cowboys, has that been a dream ever since you were a little girl? Pretty much, I would say that the dream to become an NFL cheerleader happened really in college, kind of during my COVID year, just because you do a lot of thinking that year, there's a lot more time on your hands, so you're kind of processing and obviously too in college, you're

processing a lot already and trying to navigate like what your future is going to look like. And then on top with a boyfriend, you're like, Whoa, I'm really trying to navigate a lot. Um, but fun fact for one of my Christmas gifts that year AT&T Stadium always hosts the Cotton Bowl, but during COVID it was swapped so they actually host the Rose Bowl game and Alabama played Notre Dame that year and it was at AT&T Stadium And so one of my Christmas gifts was actually to go to the Rose Bowl in Texas to watch

And so one of my Christmas gifts was actually to go to the Rose Bowl in Texas to watch Alabama. One of my friends was currently on the team and I kind of vicariously was watching everything really through social media and offer pictures and everything. And I was thinking I've always wanted to pursue a professional dance career, but I didn't know if I wanted to go more on the Broadway track because I did a lot of musicals when I was growing up. And I loved that side of dance, that kind of performance quality of being on a stage and doing more jazz and musical theater. But also going to Alabama, being on a dance team,

I really enjoyed kind of that entertainment aspect of dance as well. So I went to the Rose Bowl that year. I walked into AT&T Stadium. That was my very first time. That was my very first time actually in Dallas, Texas. And so when I was there, I felt like this piece of, you know, like I see myself here and my friend being on the team. I kind of had that in the back of my mind that, you know, she pursued her dream and I would love to do the same. And then seeing her dream come to fruition,

I thought like this could maybe be something that I'm super interested in. Obviously, the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders are so iconic. They demand excellence and I wanted to be a part of something greater than myself and I knew that. And I wanted to be a part of something greater than myself and I knew that and I wanted to be a part of something that was so prestigious and when I walked into AT&T Stadium for the very first time for that game,

I looked at my mom and I was like, I wanna be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader and she was like, my parents have always been super supportive but they were like, dang girl, this is a big stadium, you would want to be here and I was like, yep, and I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna try out, like I dang girl, this is a big stadium. Like you would want to be here. And I was like, yep, and I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna try out, like, I'm gonna do this.

And so my sophomore year, like I said, little bit more time on my hands, had more opportunities to kind of think about how to prep for that. We didn't really know what the next year was gonna look like if games were gonna start being back up. So you're kind of making plan A through Z and then junior year I got a little bit more serious about it and then senior year of college I was hitting the ground running. I was like no

the next goal is Dallas Cowboys and I kind of put all my eggs in one basket and just went for it but also like I know it is such a selective process and it's hard and it's rigorous and some things like you can't really You know have control over so I knew that if this didn't work out, that's okay. I'm probably will stay in Alabama I'll figure out like another job, but if I didn't make it my first year I wanted to retry I wanted to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader and no matter how long that took like I was ready for That commitment and that I guess that that work To put into it. So that's really cool. You went and you did it and I

imagine like entering training camp as a rookie has to feel very terrified Yes, what was that like they had a previous show called Making the Team and growing up I've always watched that and then I knew kind of, you saw a glimpse of what Making the Team was because it literally was the girls in training camp.

Once the team was announced that was kind of like the synopsis of the show. And I'd seen it through television, but then seeing it in person, you're seeing like Kelly and Judy for the first time, like in person, and you're seeing their practice facility like you saw through the TV screen, and being there, you're like, taken back because it's super intimidating.

It's so iconic, and like like you're just really taken back. It's just such a out-of-body experience almost being there in training camp. And so I knew I kind of had a little bit of expectations on what it would look like but those like are completely thrown out the window because until you're in it you're like oh my gosh they're learning we are learning so much. I obviously knew that the process that they were gonna be a lot of cuts and they don't bring the team of 36 into training camp they're bringing probably 48 girls 46 girls into training camp and that's including vets so that's giving

you know 10 cuts really roughly that they're gonna have to make throughout the summer. So I had that expectation I knew that going into it but no one can prepare you for watching it. Like you saw it through a TV screen but then when you're there you want it just as bad for that girl like you do yourself. And so seeing, you know, cuts happen and being so emotionally, mentally, physically drained, it's hard. The emotional toll is super heavy because you start to really connect with these girls

because you're all in it and so you have to be dependent on each other. And so it was tough. You're one, physically super exhausted. Two, you're learning so much choreography and you're trying not to mess up. You want to you know put your best foot forward every single day. You're trying not to get cut and then emotionally when you see someone get cut it is it crushes you and because one it's like you kind of feel this guilt of

gosh that should have been me. And so I think that was kind of an expectation. I knew going into it, but it's not until you're in it where you're like this is hard. Yeah like actually experiencing it. Yeah, yeah. I think that scene with you in the car as one of your friends was leaving,

like that in general, that was probably my number one favorite thing about the documentary series, because I think so much reality TV thrives on drama, and I don't know, competition. And it really seemed like every single girl that was a part of that, at least this is the way it appeared, is that they wanted to lift each other up, and they wanted everyone to feel supported

and encouraged and a sisterhood. And so I loved seeing that. I thought it was so refreshing and inspiring. And even just performing on my high school dance team, even if you were to just do a team sport or activity in general, people could relate to that, that bond that you have with one another. High stakes, I can't even imagine how high those stakes were.

Like, bonds, your relationship, and I don't know, just like girlhood. I was like, this is like, I love this. It is, and I'm, oh gosh, we were so happy with the end result, because one, you're putting trust in the hands of people that, obviously we've been able to create relationships with the team, the film crew and our producers, like they're the absolute best.

And we were, but at the end of the day, this is a lot of trust. Like we didn't know what to expect. The integrity and intentions day one, I think have remained the same since the beginning of what the producer really wanted to see out of it. And that was really showing the sisterhood and the same since the beginning of what the producer really wanted to see out of it. And that was really showing the sisterhood

and the bond between the girls because we are a team, but at the end of the day, you're best friends with these girls. And like you said, any team you're a part of, you work so hard with them, you see them 24-7, and go through not just physical change or you're working towards the same goal, but you're walking through life together and once you experience training camp, like I'm so, but like so grateful for that special moment that they capture that because that is just a small glimpse of, you know, the real bond and the real friendships that you make. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. What are your self-care non-negotiables, Matt?

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it once and that was it. I was like, okay, I think this is it. We're just going to watch it one and done and say we did it. Because having to explain to my family and friends and Will during training camp what you're experiencing is really hard being in a completely different state. And obviously they're trying to understand and cope with it and feel like they can relate to it but when Will got to watch that night and me explaining it to him a year ago he was like whoa like I didn't really realize like this is what you walked through

like this is what you experienced. Because that night specifically, Charlie, unfortunately was the last cut, and we knew that that was a team of 36, but we also didn't know, like we didn't want to go into practice the next day thinking, oh, we're a team of 36, like they're gonna announce a team. Because we didn't know if there was still gonna be another cut or they were gonna bring someone back.

Like, your mind is just like kind of chaotic and we didn't want wanna settle for something. We didn't, I don't know, we were really hesitant with walking into that practice the next day, but when I told Will, there was, Charlie got cut, he was like, oh, Reese, that was your best friend, but that's a team of 36. And I was like, yes, but I'm heartbroken right now.

I'm crushed. And so him seeing that and I was like, yes, but I'm heartbroken right now. I'm crushed. And so him seeing that, I think all of my family, my friends that I explained it to kind of took a step back and thought, whoa, like, yeah, y'all walked through so much emotional grief. And while my friends, everyone being so supportive, thinking, oh my gosh, you made the team, they also saw like what the other side of it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a very, it's a hard thing to process. Something I've never experienced before. Being crushed but also celebrating but also feeling a little guilty. It's pretty strange but yeah, that was such a special scene. That was something I was surprised. I was like, these girls don't seem relieved

when it's like, okay, that was such a special scene. That was something I was surprised. I was like, these girls don't seem relieved when it's like, okay, that's one step closer to being on the announced team. But I never saw anyone being like, oh, phew. It was more just like, oh, look at what I'm losing. Instead of gaining, which was hard and sad for you guys, but also really cool to see that support. You guys were already becoming a team through that process.

Well, how long was that though? Cause you and Charlie got very close clearly just from what we saw on the show. And so like how long did you have together to form that strong bond? So they announced the team July 14th of last year. And we started training camp a little bit over a month. So training camp was actually the shortest it had ever been just because our

season started earlier and there was a lot of other activities that we were doing in the summertime so they needed to announce the team pretty quickly and so we had gotten so close in just a month time span but a month is a long time it is staying in the same hotel, like together, it's, you just become so dependent and just grow so quickly together and dependent on each other and practice all the time and get ready, go to practice.

Like it was just such a sweet bond and we were walking through the exact same thing. So it was just really special to have someone else that could really relate to you and vice versa Do you think that they showed? Everything that they needed to show from the whole process. Yeah, absolutely. So obviously Everyone is so busy and I'll just put it at that There's a lot of things that were included and there are a lot of things that weren't included. Some being there are a few different shows and things that were included but just because it was busy one or two some sort of rights kind of like didn't really like cross like for example there

was a really cool concert that we are a part of but we couldn't get like the rights to like music and like little stuff like that but it was a very accurate depiction of what we walk through and what the year looks like, how busy our season looks, because no one ever saw a glimpse of what weeks look like or what the process looked like leading up to the Thanksgiving game or stuff like that. Obviously, through social media, things are posted, but it's not until you see the behind the scenes of how much work, how much practices, how many appearances and events that you're doing. I think that it did an incredible job at showing

what goes on behind the scenes rather than what's, you know, going on at practices. It was really special to even see like your own teammates, what they do behind the scenes. So. Because you didn't even know that you're going to be one of the main characters essentially on the show, right? You just thought that everyone was getting equal screen time.

Everyone was having cameras follow them everywhere. And so when did you find that out that you were kind of the main person? So honestly, I don't really recall the exact time. I feel like it probably was towards leading up to our wedding. Again, my mind being so like wedding based too last year, that's all I was thinking about. One, just making sure I put my best foot forward as a rookie,

like making sure I knew my choreography coming in, making sure like as a perfectionist, like I wanted to make sure I'm not messing up and stuff like that, all the little things that we think of. So my mind was so into X, Y, and Z and then didn't really kind of come to terms with, oh, the show. That's also something that's happening. And when it came out, we saw the first two episodes right after the wedding, actually, like in May, before it was premiered in June. So I was like, oh, that's me. And that's a lot. Yeah, I guess I didn't really know until I

saw the docu-series that it was pretty big, that there was a lot of me and Will. And I was like, oh, this is great. Did that make you uncomfortable? A little bit, yeah, as I'm doing this right now. I can tell you look like Will. I just never in my wildest dreams thought that this was in the Lord's plan and obviously he does exceeds and gives far abundantly than we could ever ask and so I just never knew that this was his plan for my life and like I said never thought like this would happen and I never dreamt of it happening because at the end of the day I wanted to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader

and we didn't really know what to expect when the docu-series came out so we kind of just were kind of twiddling our thumbs like okay we'll just see when it gets here and so yeah it was a little nerve wracking because it's not just the US seeing it, it's international. And I feel like a lot of people know a lot more about me than I know myself. I was just processing this as I went. Processing it and I feel like I've stepped

into a whole new world, but it's been such a beautiful, crazy, chaotic, but blessed opportunity. So I'm super grateful for it, but I also am like, whoa, people know who I am and know who will and are. Just all the things. So I truly think what it is is like, I think America and the world is tired of the in your face reality TV, you know, loud fights, drama, drama, drama. And yet we have the show called America's Sweethearts.

It's refreshing. Yeah. And then you have like you and Will who are just a sweet couple, which like fits with sweetheart. So like, I think that's what it was. And I think the producer probably made the right, I think they made the right choice following you and telling your story because you're just a genuine person who really cared I think that's what it was and I think the producers probably made the right choice following you and telling your story because you're just a genuine person who really cared about

this passion of yours to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader and then here you are getting married so I don't know. You deserve everything that you're getting and more. I'll handle it so gracefully. That's so sweet. And you're so humble about it too. And hearing Abby and Matt say that I'm like, oh my gosh. No, I'm so sweet. Oh my gosh. And you're so humble about it too. And hearing Abby and Matt say that, I'm like, oh my gosh. No, no, I'm so serious.

And I just thank you that that means everything. And I, you know, there's, I guess as newlyweds, we've always thought like, what's our purpose? Like, obviously as a married couple, like we want to make the kingdom bigger, but what does that look like? And he, God was like, I know what it looks like. And you're not even gonna expect it.

So just hearing that, it means the world. And I think we're doing, we're trying to do our best with handling it all, but we're also human. And I think, like you said, like, I think the world is kind of tired of seeing like picture perfectness because it's not, like that's not real life. And so I hope that, um, and everything that we do and everything that we say, any interaction that we show that like, Hey, we're relatable. Like we're real people. We're just as broken.

We're just as confused and messy, you know, as any other person is. And so I think that the show also highlights that is that we're daughters, like we're sisters like we're sisters We're friends like we are women who have dreamt big but also have so much more going on behind the scenes and I think that the show really shows and highlights that because when you put that uniform on there are a lot of eyes and in Little girls eyes are like looking at you with with stars and it's like oh no No, the stars are actually in my eyes because what I can do is, you know, it's just such a mutual

thing of being able to give back in a way but also become relatable in a sense of like, hey, if I can do this, you can do this and I think that's what the show really shows and highlights. A really sweet moment, speaking of like, it's funny hearing you say like not being perfect because anyway, I was like, they, you guys look perfect, like literally amazing. And, but also there was a moment and I think it was at the end of an episode where you guys are about to go out onto the field and you went a hair early and like scooted back

and I was like, that's when you fall in love with you anymore. I literally love that moment. And here, so that's funny that you say that because long story short, the show came out the first day of training camp this year. And so my mind was like, oh no, no, no, no, I'm not watching this until the weekend because I gotta be focused in a training camp.

Like I don't want any distractions. My phone was like on do not disturb. Like I I don't want any distractions. My phone was like on do not disturb. Like I just don't want any distractions. That's a crazy. It's crazy. That it fell on the same day. Yes, what a coinkydink. And so, but one of my teammates had reached out

and she was like, have you seen it yet? And I was like, no, no, no. Like I'm waiting until after the week. I'll watch it Saturday and Sunday. Our training camp started on Thursday because that's when the show came out. And so I was like, I'll watch it on Saturday. And she was like, there is a part that I absolutely love

and it's something that I vividly remember because as a rookie, you remember all of your mistakes. And walking out, she was the one that was like, come back. And she was the one that had told me. And I was like, they put that in the episode? She was like, yeah, it's so great. I'm like, you know what? I'm so glad that they did because there are so many other mistakes that I made, but at

least if I can show someone that I am so flawed and imperfect, then I did my job. It was so like endearing just to see, and your like little recovery, I was like, oh. I was like, okay. And then I see the camera crew and I'm like, even better. Even better. Let me just, hopefully y'all cut that out, but it wasn't.

Something I didn't expect from the documentary was that it was scary. It was that whole situation with the camera guy and the groping. I would have never thought of something like that happening. And obviously, they weren't able to pursue the charges because they couldn't have enough evidence. Yeah. Tell me about like how do you deal with that as a cheerleader because I don't know. I mean that's just me I would have never thought of. I feel like the cheerleaders are kind of like a sexual icon in a way with like and so how

do I know that they were saying that they have a lot of security measures and like how they handle that. Yes, absolutely. and like how they handle that. Absolutely, so I feel like one, hearing that it was devastating because, like I just said, like we're daughters, we're sisters, we're friends, we're, you know, wives. Some of us were fiancees, we're girlfriends, and but at the end of the day, like we're best friends,

and so when you hear that, like that happened to one of your teammates like it hits home real hard and deeply and like you said we have incredible security and I never want to um you know downgrade them because they are absolutely amazing but in a game there are a lot of people on the sidelines and it is hard to see everyone there's 90 plus thousand people that are at a game and there's a lot of people on the field as well and it's heartbreaking to hear and to have kind of witnessed that and I've seen like your friend go through that because when it's embarrassing and you feel icky and you feel weird and

You're like that's not why I'm doing. Like I'm doing this because I love to dance and I'm representing something greater than myself. But there's a lot, unfortunately, eyes that might see this and I don't want to say lustful, but unfortunately in a more lustful way. And I think that's a little scary in a sense of like, hey, like that's not what I represent, like who I am in the uniform, I'm the same person outside.

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They either have a football or they hold something or they're kind of the center of the attention and we're behind them in the corner. because that's what we want to do we want to like leave someone better than we found them and make sure that they feel like seen loved and valued and that they're the center of the tension and not us but too it's also for just security purposes and protection for us and because there are some times where you're like oh this is a little weird You kind of give an eye to like the security guy and he's like, okay, yeah, I get it. I'm following. Like I'm going to be aware. But yeah, it's just like a weird, that is unfortunately a part of another side of this

job. But two, I don't want to live in fear in that way, and none of us do, but it does catch you by surprise when something does happen, because I mean, in that case it was kind of inevitable, just because there were so many people. But two, I think moving forward we want to put our best foot forward in the sense of, okay, this happened, this is not right, and we want to make sure

that we set all the, you know, set all the right rules and boundaries and all the things like moving forward so that this doesn't happen again. Do you always have security with you when you're in uniform? Yes. Is that kind of something that, okay, you're in uniform, is it like per group of girls and you have at least one guy per, I don't know if there's like a rule for that. Kind of, yeah. girls and you have at least one guy per how much like a rule for that yeah so usually our appearances there's two girls most of the time a sit and sign or

a stand and pose that's what we call it either we're sitting we're signing things or we're standing and posing pretty something's right at door but there's usually two of us and so we usually have two security guards with us and then when it's a group there are a few more but usually when there's a group there's usually two of us and so we usually have two security guards with us and then when it's a group there are a few more but usually when there's a group there's a bigger event so therefore there's more security but anytime there's like a performance especially game days where there's a performance right before it's like our pregame performance that we do outside of the field and there is security all lined up because we're like in between

fans it's blocked off but there's a lot more just because of being out exposed like in the public but other than that we we definitely always have security and we're very fortunate enough to have security with us, even with practices. With practices we have security all around our premises and inside our practices, and they also walk us through our cars every night, which is super sweet, because you never know who's in a parking garage,

so yeah, super blessed. That's awesome. That's awesome. I think that when I think about the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, I think of like, like we're saying, that kind of picture perfect, beautiful and womanly, and especially like,

they have the bikini and they have like, the belly shots and stuff. Like, while I do think it's done in such a classy way, how do you navigate yourself like, through your own like, discovery with modesty related to your role as a cheerleader? Yeah, absolutely. So I feel like one, I feel like there has kind of been

a negative connotation in the sense of body image and what that looks like. And I think as time has evolved, our program has really taken a positive direction in the sense of, hey, we want you to feel and look your best. And it's not the sense of like, oh, you need to look like this or your way. Like that's all kicked out the door. If you feel good and you look good and you're putting effort into like who you are physically, mentally, emotionally, like that's what we're proud of.

And we want to showcase that. So in terms of speaking, like all of the other swimsuit calendars and things like that, like we are now promoting and showing healthy and relatable bodies more than the unrealistic expectation of hip bones and you know, tiny like legs and all the things because we're athletes. Like we have to be able to fuel ourselves to do what we're doing on the field because it is not easy. Thunderstruck at the very end, you've got to make sure like you're fueling yourself

and you're being kind to yourself mentally and emotionally because this is very, it's very rigorous. The direction that we've kind of taken now is more healthy mind, healthy body and making sure we're fueling yourself and showing like if you want to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, what other better way to promote healthy living and being a role model is showing relatability and not a perfect body because there's not a perfect body out there.

So that's something I have to remember. I love how you refer to yourselves as athletes because Abby and I, you mentioned theater, growing up doing theater, Abby and I met doing theater. Yeah. Um, and oh my gosh, like after doing dance numbers where you're doing like triple pirouette, like, you know, switch leap, like all this stuff and dancing all at the same time. No one knows, but that is hard. You're out of breath. Like you, it's hard to breathe, right? And you're like dripping sweat. like you must be drenched in sweat by the end of Thunderstruck. Oh my gosh, it's it's quite bad. People were like pictures pictures like After a game I look like a wet rat I'm not gonna lie I leave it I'm like this is not what I looked like

Pre-game and then post game we'll have to do a video where I'm like, this is me pre-game and then post-game where I'll have to do a video where I'm like this is me before a game and then this is me after a game. Yeah, but no it's it's athletic and what we do is hard and a lot of people don't realize this either but you know Thunderstruck is already hard enough doing it from the very beginning to the end, but when you put the boots on, that's a completely different dance, because it's essentially doing a dance in ankle weights. The boots are real, they're real leather,

Lucasey boots, and they are, they're so iconic, and I love them so much, but they're heavy, and you have to be able to perform in them and point your foot, and I I mean think about real leather boots. I cannot imagine pointing your feet in a boot. Yeah, so it's definitely harder than it looks. I think we try to make it look effortless and perfect, but at the end of it when we walk off,

best believe we're like wheezing. We're like. That's the thing, right? It wouldn't be fun to watch some people dance and look like they're in pain the whole time, right? So yeah, you have to pretend like you're, you know, like, oh, you're smiling and you're not sweating your face off and your makeup stripping. Did I just hear a pop? Yes, I did, but I'm smiling through this. Yeah, so that's, that's so impressive.

And the famous, like, jump, the split, jump-split. Splitting and jumping, splitting and jumping. Talk to us about jumping. Yeah. Splitting and jumping. Talk to us about that. Yeah. It's funny that you mentioned that because I always, we just announced our team and throughout training camp, I remember the very first night we did jump splits was like right after my birthday.

And I remember last year it was on my birthday. So I was like, happy birthday to me that I get to try this jump-slipper for the first time And I remember you know the rookie candidates thinking like oh my gosh This is like really nerve-racking But like I know I can do it but like I just have to do it and then having to do it in front Of Kelly and Judy like it's already like scary because you don't want to mess up You want to make sure like you don't want to get cut and so I I told a rookie candidate I was like listen taking off a band-aid with like hairy arms hurts, right? But if you just rip it off, it's done.

And I said, it's almost like that. You just have to rip the bandaid off, take a breath, jump lightly, split, land, and you're done. Like sometimes I have to, I don't close my eyes. Also don't try that at home and don't close your eyes, but sometimes I'm just like, okay, here we go and land Like that's what I have to think about is instead of there's obviously a lot of you know Don't do this and land like this and all the physical elements to it But at the end of the day, it's like a mental blockage is you just have to let go. And like growing up as a dancer, I did, you know,

Acro and I did a lot of different tricks and stuff. And it's almost like learning a new trick. It's like, I've got to remove my mental blockage and just do it. Nike, just do it. You know? And so that's literally what we have to do is like, nope, kick, kick. There's six kicks at the end and then and then you're done. That has to be damaging to your body, though. Well, kick, there's six kicks at the end, and then, and then you're done. That has to be damaging to your body though. Well, yeah.

There's no way that your hips are like, oh, that's okay. Yeah, your hips are like, oh, thank you so much for that. Because, okay, I'll be honest, I only joined Abby in watching the documentary towards the end, but Abby was filling me in. I was like, get over here right now. Abby binged it, she was obsessed.

But, like, what is up with, wasn't someone getting like a surgery because of their hips being screwed up from the jump split? It's just demanding. It is demanding. And I, and so many people are like, oh my gosh, you're so young. Like, you know, your body is so healthy.

And I'm like, thank you. Yes, it, yes, I guess it is and I'm in the best shape possible, but the older you get, and especially as dancers, anatomically we're doing things that aren't natural. Aren't natural. One being a jump sweat. And I think as a dancer that's just kind of something that comes with it is like a football player

You're not gonna tell a football player. Hey, stop doing car collisions every single time you do a play, you know, like essentially that's what they're doing Yeah, and it's not like you're gonna say hey stop doing what you love, you know and and that's kind of similar with with dance is like hey the 85% external rotation that you have that's anatomically not correct, stop doing that. It's like, well no, that's like what my job requires and I love to do it. And so I think that's just kind of something that we think about and when we do the jump split, I'm not gonna sit here and say that it feels good all the time. Because it's not like, oh yeah, let me just do it in the morning, let me do

it at lunchtime, you know? We do take precautionary, we do our best with doing those measures of like, hey, we always do thunderstruck and practices of, we'll do thunderstruck, full out, kicks, pretty kicks, no J, which is not, like, just eye level kicks, not all the way, that way you're not sore or tugging on those hamstrings. And then no J, no jump split. So the only time we're doing our jump splits

is in front of a crowd when it matters. And so we try to just really be cautious on how many times we're doing it because it does take a toll on your body physically. But we have great trainers and we have great resources that are helpful in the sense of knowing that we're getting older and our bodies Like can't do this forever. Like if you told me in ten years, I'm gonna do a jump split. I'd be like no, no, no No, that's this is probably the only time I'm ever gonna do a jump split is this career, you know because it is it's hard and it does take a toll but unfortunately that does come with it, like any other athlete, you know, you are getting hurt and unfortunately, you know,

the sport that you play and that's just one of the things. You look at these NFL athletes, the football players on the field who are getting paid, you know, 20, 30 million dollars a year, like the craziest salary. Like, good for them, I'm happy for them, that's awesome. But I was shocked when I looked up what the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders make because, I don't know if this is true, but the internet was saying something about 75,000 a year for a cheerleader. I don't know if that's true. Is it was that above? It's not that much, right? That's what it says on Google, though. Yeah, um, there is your testament to never trust what Google says. So is this, so it's lower? It's lower than that? Um, yes, I would say so, but I know that there's like a lot of

controversy with, you know, how much we get paid and stuff and like, I'm grateful that we do get paid because in some instances, like some NFL programs do not get paid as much as we do. And so we are very grateful in that sense. But like any other NFL cheerleader, you have to be able to have another income coming in. You have to have another job with it.

Yes, you do see these football players and you're like, wow, you are making so much. You make so much money. But at the end of the day, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity and because it is so prestigious and not everyone can say that they're a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, that in itself is a chapter I'm always going to cherish. And so, at the end of the day, like, money is temporary and it's a worldly thing. Like, I can't take that to heaven. And so, but the opportunities and the experiences I'm gaining through this journey and this chapter, that's building my character and that's the thing that I can take to heaven. And so, that's something that I always try to remember because it is hard when you're living

in a world where you're just like, wow, you're just expensive. There's expenses. I'm kind of a nerd and I just did some quick math in my head. The players on the field individually are making more than the entire team of cheerleaders, like one player. That's kind of crazy. Oh, yes.

Yeah, like one guy. And like the quarterback, I don't know what he makes, but like, let's say, let's even be generous. Let's say that the cheerleaders made 100K and times that by 36, that's 3.6 million. Yearly, a quarter- That's not our contract for our quarterback. Oh, I know, your quarterback's probably making like 30,

40 million a year. It's filed, yeah. So he's probably making, yeah. Like, he's making as much as like all the NFL cheerleaders in the whole entire league Let me just say this like clearly you love what you do So you'd probably do it for free like when you love something so much I know what that feels like like it's just it's so much fun to entertain and to do an art form that you love Yes, your passion, but like at the same time,

I don't know, I want to see you guys get paid more. I really do. And I feel, and I know that the money's there too, because like the NFL is so freaking loaded. There's so much money in the NFL. Well, we, the US supports NFL, you know, like we're constantly buying tickets or buying someone's Jersey or you know that that

$20 popcorn you just yeah is helping I just know there's no reason that any cheerleader in the NFL all should be paid under 100k in my opinion Mm-hmm. That's yeah. Well, thank you. What is the job that you have another job to like subsidize your income? Yeah, so, um, I work at a flower shop which is super fun. I am around incredible women from all walks of life. I've got like just wisdom being poured into me. I've got people that are a little bit closer in my age. Like it's just so sweet to have like motherly figures in my life too. Just to be able to be around and it's so much fun.

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That's so crazy. Oh my gosh. I still just cannot believe that happened. But yes, that was a pinch me moment for sure. But yeah, it's so special. And I feel like when you order flowers, it's to bring joy. Whether you're walking through grief or whether you're celebrating something.

And so it's just really special to be a part of someone's joy and celebration with life. Tell us more about Dolly Parton. What was she like in person? What did you talk about? Oh, sorry. She's so sweet. I just have one more question on the flower shop thing. I'm just curious.

Is your role as that the flower shop more lucrative than your role in the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders Wait like which one You need to tell me that you make more money delivering flowers than you get paid as a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader. Dallas Cowboy cheerleader for sure That is definitely. Oh hourly though. You're probably making more hourly doing flower deliveries. Right. Got it. But what kind of is like a blessing in disguise is I Don't have a nine-to-five job as of right now Just because throughout this year I wanted something to obviously bring in a little bit more income,

but something that I enjoyed. I'm a big stickler about that, is if you don't love what you're doing, then it's not worth it, you know? And so I love what I'm doing. Thankfully Will's job is great, and we're doing great in that sense, but what I really wanted was something I can

look forward to in the beginning of my day. Have a little bit of time so that I can get ready for practice and this was especially important in rookie season because I wanted to have something and then come back and do choreography and make sure I'm prepared and all the things that you kind of have to do in your rookie season to be your best in practice. And so like all the other, not all of them, because some of us are a little bit different

with our schedules, but a good bit of us do have nine to five jobs, but those are also like second year, third year, fourth year vets who have been able, they they walked, you know They've walked in our shoes But yeah, so it's it's it's better with with cheerleaders for sure Yeah, can everyone go follow Reese on Instagram right now. It'll take literally two seconds. Go to Instagram follow Reese We got a we got a blow like blow up her account

Okay, because that's so you're okay? Because you're not getting paid enough doing what you're doing, so we gotta support you somehow. Oh my gosh, she's so sweet. Sorry, back to Dolly Parton. I wanna know, what was she like to meet? Oh, what you see on camera is who she is off camera. She is just this cute little ball of sunshine that you can just put in your pocket. You would think that she's like pretty tall because she always wears her six inch heels, always. She's so little and so petite and so cute.

And I just remember she had so many security guards who were these huge massive like dudes and they're, you know, I guess they're all from Nashville, so they're all wearing their boots and their hats and they're just really massive. And I'm like, where is Dolly? She's probably this big, you know, around them, but I just remember walking in being like,

oh my gosh, this is kind of intimidating. And then seeing Dolly, she just is such, just a firecracker, she's so sweet, so cute, and I remember completely being starstruck. I had, I was speechless and I'm so glad that Kelly our director started talking because she's she's an incredible speaker like getting just very well spoken and I'm just so glad that she did the first move because she was talking and I was like, I've got to form sentences. I've got to be able to make sure I can speak.

I cannot be embarrassing at this moment, but I remember looking at the producer because he was in the back and I was like, my gosh. I was not expecting to meet Dolly. All I was expecting was just to drop off the arrangement cuz I'm like of course there They have her hidden in like my job like I'm just walking to do boom and then leaving but no like she comes in and I just Was like taking back. I cannot believe this it was like almost like an out-of-body experience I was like, I don't I don't think I'm actually saying Dolly in front of me. I was like, please someone pinch me

It was funny seeing Kelly fangirl because always Kelly is so, you know, yes, yeah, she's very collected, very well spoken, yet like here's Kelly just fangirling over Dolly Parton. It was kind of interesting to see. It was special to see because the first time I met Kelly, I was same thing. I was like, oh my gosh, that's Kelly Finkel. I was like, that's crazy. And kind of seeing the roles a little bit, kind of not switch, but she was just as taken back to, was really cool because Dolly is just so iconic.

Oh my gosh, she's literally the best, most incredible female country artist ever and and she will go like down in the history books as that and forever will be and so it was just such an honor to be able to meet her. What a cool opportunity. Speaking of more on Kelly I feel like because other the audience for the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader docu-series is so much broader than, like you even said it's global, like it was like number one you said in Australia, things like that. So many more eyes are on it than are typically would have any idea of like what's going

on in the dance world, especially like the NFL cheerleading side of things. So there's been criticism about how the coaches like coach essentially and I guess like I guess, how do you view it? Do you think it is a little too harsh at times? Do you think that maybe sometimes they need to lighten up their approach? It's interesting that you say that because I remember going to LA for kind of press interviews before the docu-series was out and Kelly kind of

got asked that question in an interview and she was like, you know, it was very eye-opening to see kind of everything. That's true. I didn't even think of that. They're just seeing your response like, yes, ma'am. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, she was kind of talking about, I mean, Kelsey's a nurse and I was planning a wedding and there's just so much more that you see

that it's going on behind the scenes. In a sense, like Anna Kate, I know the world kind of got introduced to her and her sister and seeing kind of their sweet bond. And Victoria too, like her mom being a legacy. There's just so much more that goes on behind closed doors that was revealed to everyone, including Kelly and Judy. And so Kelly kind of mentioned that and she was like,

it just was a different approach now. And she said, even as like a coach, taking this new approach is just, it's refreshing and it's new because she never had seen that and um but to answer your question I do think that being a part of something that is so iconic, so um prestigious and you know Kelly and Judy do you know demand excellence with that comes a lot of responsibility and comes with a lot of practices, sometimes some thick, actually not sometimes, a lot of thick skin.

And in order to be, you know, the greatest of all time, you're gonna have to sacrifice and do a lot. And so I think that that's just something that I've always remembered that sometimes decisions and things that they say you know they also have a job and so I've got to I always have to find myself of just respecting a decision whether it's you know what I think is the right one or the wrong one at the end of the day they also you know have pressure on them as well so I think that's something that we

always try to remember is like some things we cannot have control over or, you know, handle, but Kelly and Judy are the ones too that have a lot of pressure that they've got to make sure that excellence is the bars never being kind of teetered. Is there a minimum height now? Because I noticed when Ari got cut, that was something that was discussed on the documentary. Oh, should we make it a rule that you have to be a certain height to be on the team? Did they ever make that a rule? I don't believe so.

And I, you know, those were, that was one of those decisions that I was, you just kind of had to take a deep breath and keep moving forward because I love Ari and she's so talented and shout out to Ari because she is now a Miami Dolphins cheerleader. No way! Which is incredible and we're just extremely proud of her. She's thriving but it you know that's one of those decisions that's like you don't have a say and so whatever happens kind of happens but I don't know if there's a height requirement now. That's a good question. I want to look into that for sure. Yeah, that, Abby and I watching that part of the-

That one struck a chord as a 5-2 girly. I was like, wait a minute. We can haul. Yeah, right. And I think what's, you know, I could be completely wrong, but I do think we have a good amount of shorties on our team too. And so, me including myself, and one thing that in the kick line, it goes from middle, the tallest to shortest, tallest to shortest. And I think it was just more on the fact of like maybe those spots were already filled or we needed someone like taller kind of sense. But yeah, those are those decisions that just don't make sense but happen and we just have to respect it and kind of move forward.

That's where that emotional toll hits because you're like, you just build connections and growth and it's like, I already had no control over that and those are hard. Those are hard to witness and walk through. What has it been like seeing yourself become famous? How is your family reacting to that? Yeah, I think my family is so just amazed at it because they're like, you know, we never thought that, you know, they've always been so supportive and have always had, you know, high hopes and everything, but this would have shocked us if you were told like, hey, this is going to happen to Reese's life.

We'd be like, huh, what? And so my mom and dad are just like, this is just such a cool thing, like just enjoy it. And they've always been so supportive and encouraging and helpful. Obviously this is something that we've never navigated before. So it's new to them and it's um, it's just definitely it's a learning process. I think for all of us, even my my friends like my close my close inner circle too, it's it's something that's not normal and so I'm trying to just

handle it with as much grace but also grace for myself because I don't really know what I'm doing. grace but also grace for myself because I don't really know what I'm doing. But I have to remember my why and my why was I want to make the kingdom bigger one but too I want to pursue and do it everything wholeheartedly to the best of my ability and now on top of this new world I've entered I want to do the same and that that why has never changed. So which one of your friends or family members is the one updating you on your followers going up? Oh my gosh.

So many of them, so many of them. It's funny, a lot of my roommates from college are doing it, but we have a really close, um, family friend there. We just call them family because they are, but it's a, just a, you know, a mom a dad Two girls like we're all just super close with and they're the ones that are constantly like Looking at my my social media account and they're helping me to and the sense of like hey There's a comment that you might want to take down or like oh something that like that and I'm like

Thankful for because sometimes I just don't see those things but too I've got a lot of friends I honestly can't just pick one they're like did you know that um your account like followers went up this many and this much I'm like I don't have time to look at that but I'm glad that you two that's so funny yeah it was funny because um yeah people people watching this probably are like, what are they talking about? But even my college roommates wouldn't watch our videos, but they actually made fun of me when I first started doing YouTube five years ago.

But they were like, wait, dude, you just hit 100,000. Lovingly, they lovingly. They're like, bro, you hit 100,000, what? And then it was like, dude, you hit a million. So I wouldn't even check, but they were the ones keeping us informed. So I think that's so funny. That's your roommates, right? I'm sure that there's probably more too that are looking but aren't gonna tell until later or something but I think Will's friends too are seeing it because Will's from a really small town in Alabama and

We're just amazed that this is happening and I think Will is extremely amazed that this is all going on as well. But his friends are like, dude you just hit 10k, like that's huge and I'm like I know. When did that happen? When did you pass 10,000 followers? Oh my goodness. She's talking about Will. Will, yeah.

Oh Will, Will. Will actually just hit 10k. Let's go. Two days ago. Let's go. And he was like, he sent me a screenshot but I know his friends were probably all freaking out and like oh my gosh like dude you're so cool. I need to go follow Will after this. Yes yes you do. He would be so honored oh my gosh. That's so funny. It has just been such a fast train and there's like no sign of slowing down.

Such a blessing but so crazy how everything has happened kind of like overnight, honestly. Hey, real quick, I don't wanna take much of your time. I just wanted to thank you guys for being here. It seriously means the world to us. I don't know if you can tell in this episode, Abby and I are half asleep because we slept three hours the night before and woke up at like five o'clock

in the morning to fly to Dallas and film two podcasts. So we really appreciate you being here. We put a lot of work into these podcast episodes. And if you wouldn't mind hitting subscribe or sharing this podcast with a friend or someone that you think would enjoy it, that would really mean the world to us. But only do that if you like truly enjoy the episode

because we just wanna make sure that you love this episode as much as we do. Yeah, again, this is just a dream. We feel so thankful, so blessed that we get to do this. And we're so happy that you're here with us along the journey. So thank you so much. We really love and appreciate every single one of you. Now let's get back to the episode.

I'm so curious. Is there going to be a season two? I think we're all very hopeful for it and I think like that would be super cool So cuz it's done so well already but We have no idea if there will be I honestly don't even know if Netflix knows that as well. So we kind of just we don't know we're kind of in limbo We're just like do do do do do know, we're kind of in limbo. We're just like, do do do do do. We'll just see.

Well, I think we're all hoping for season two. Yeah. So put in our vote for Netflix if you hear this. I think if Netflix was smart, they would look at- Netflix if you're listening. Netflix, make it freaking season two, okay? I feel like it has just, it's inspired so many people. It's crazy how relatable it is too,

as someone that grew up doing dance. Like Abby felt like, I know that she's felt what you guys went through Absolutely, like okay not actually right because like you're freaking auditioning for the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders But anybody that's been a part of like competition dance or dance at all Yeah, probably relate in some way to what you guys felt Yeah, I was telling Matt I was like I miss the thrill of performance because that is so fun, but ultimately it made me miss being a part of a team of girls like constantly so much.

And so I think that is like me kind of in the next season of life, maybe two seasons on being a mom. And like, I'm like, oh, I miss like always being around, like, like while I love my babies, like being around other women, like I miss that always being around like, like while I love my babies, like being around other women. Like I miss that so much in that documentary. Like, but it was also such a warm feeling too. Cause I was like, that was such a special thing

that I got to experience. It's so special. I mean, like this literally just popped in my brain, but anytime you're working towards the same goal with a group of people that you absolutely love and adore, it is one super special and no one can break that because no one knows until you're in it about how deep and strong your bond is with each other. But just for instance, like for a musical, when I did musicals, obviously you've got like, you're doing kind of like sets where you're blocking out like, oh where you're going to enter or where you're going to exit or like

quick change like, oh I got your quick change, like I can help you. All those things like tie into each other and it's like that's such a bond and such a team aspect. Same thing with us is like, you know, I giggle at this because when we do this thing in the kickline where we put our leg up and we do like this ripple effect, and I don't know why, this is so random, but one of the girls I'm next to right now were the exact same height, but completely different bodies.

Like my legs are so Short and my torso is so long where her legs are so long and her source or torso is short but when I put my leg up on her I have to like Put extra effort because she's a lot taller in the sense of like our where your hips are Yeah, our hips are and so it's just little tweaks in the sense of like our hips difference. Where your hips are, yeah. Our hips are. And so it's just little tweaks in the sense of like, oh I got you, I'm gonna do this for you. Or I'm gonna do this.

Like those are so special and they all kind of add up where, I don't know, like do you see what I'm saying? Where it's like, if you're doing like, I don't know, I've never cheered before, even though people think like a cheerleader, we do stunts, we don't do stunts, we're dancers, but if you're doing a stunt, if you're a cheerleader, if there's a base and you need a little extra tweak,

I'm sure there's some chemistry bond where you're like, hey, I need a little bit more help in this way or this way. I don't know, you just build such strong support and just get deeper on such a sweet level as a team. So like one unit. Yeah. I love it. I didn't even think about that. So yeah, you guys don't do stunts. You don't do backflips or get thrown in the air. I don't know how to do that. Hold up. Okay, why why is it then that that's like high school cheerleaders and then that's literally so far off from what you guys do. You know, I honestly don't know because there are some NFL programs that do have cheer.

Oh, and they are doing stunts. And it's more of a newer thing actually. And I think it's really cool that they're incorporating both because an NFL cheerleader, you would think like that term cheerleader, you're thinking stunts and backflips and tricks and stuff. But essentially we're dancers. Some of us have never cheered before in our lives. That was like my high school dance team.

We had pom poms, but we danced with them. But you had both though. A lot of high schools have the cheer team and the pom pom squad or whatever. I think the term cheerleader is if you have p palms in your hands, you're essentially a cheerleader Whereas cheer and dance are two different sports whereas cheerleading You know just kind of I guess comparing this to going to Alabama We had a co-ed team and an all-girl team and they're they're beasts They are so amazing every single time they go to nationals all-girl team like has won multiple

so amazing every single time they go to nationals. All girl team has won multiple national championships. So has our co-ed team or has been in the top three, super competitive, but that is the cheer pro, that is being a cheerleader. Yes, they have palms in their hands, but so does the dance team. But we're dancers. So I don't know, it's very interesting like that term has just kind of been broadly used yeah if you have palms hey guess

what you're a cheerleader but so many people ask us all the time like what level are your stunts and stuff and I'm like hey sweet girl um I actually don't know how to do a stunt and like I don't even know like what some cheer terms mean I'm just a dancer you know yeah are you still in shock like is this do you feel like imposter syndrome I'm in shock that I'm doing this podcast right now because like you should have heard the Abby was cheering when she was like Let's go! I told, I called my friends, I called my sister-in-law. No, the, no, no, no, it is so mutual. But I just remember telling Will and I'm like, I'm freaking out. Like I genuinely don't even know if I can do this.

Like I'm just so giddy and so honored. And so just appreciative that you guys thought of me and our story. Thank you. Oh my goodness. Thank, yeah, thank you for coming on. I hope that we were able to fully represent what your experience has been. And we're just, we're so excited for you.

And we also, we just wanna see you grow. We just wanna see you continue to crush it. And I'll be honest, I did not realize coming into this that literally everything that's happened has been just in the past month. Like that is crazy. And that makes me even more excited for you and Will because your life is like just starting to change

and it's gonna continue to change. And you're in a really exciting season of marriage too. So we're just so happy for you guys and want nothing but the best for you. Yeah, I think something Kelly said on the show, or maybe it was Kelly, I think she was like, does that girl ever cry? And it's so true because it's just like you emulate joy.

Thank you. Like you just make others around you feel more joyful and optimistic and so like. That's so sweet. That's something I love about you and I feel like our viewers can probably just like feel that through your phone, just like your energy is just. Thank you. So humble, joyful and like Matt said, I also feel very excited for like, just like your energy is just so humble, joyful, and like Matt said, I also feel very excited for like what's in your future.

Thank you. Fun fact before we wrap up, but as we were watching that scene, Will was watching it with me, and he was like, if only they knew. Because obviously sometimes like, oh gosh, Will and my mom and my dad, like anytime I just have to be extremely vulnerable or I'm upset about something or frustrated, like you kind of take it out on your loved ones, unfortunately, because they love you, like unconditionally.

And so there have been many times where either I'm stressed or I'm overwhelmed or I'm like sad or frustrated and like I'll just like let it all out and I'm like just tears flowing and will was like Wow, if only they knew That she does cry like she is human and she does get sad and all the things but I thought that was so funny He was like laughing out loud. He was like, ha! It's a holiday now!

That's funny. Did you cry off camera during the whole filming process? Yeah, definitely. I just think that, you know, I didn't really know what to expect. There was a lot of anxiety too that was kind of led throughout the year with just so much happening like just graduated, just got engaged, I'm planning a wedding, rookie season, so many moving parts and then we're filming a Netflix show like what? And so there's just a lot of natural normal anxiety that just kind of built up throughout

the year and yeah I would definitely kind, sometimes I would go to practice, I would come back and just, not that I was ever upset or sad about something, but I just needed to like let it out. Like, and I didn't really know how to do that unless I just kind of, unfortunately, just kind of cried it out, but that's just human of me, you know?

I love your cry. We gotta have a good cry. And as well, is that like the person you go and cry to when you need to? Oh yes. Okay. Oh yes. Oh yes. There's times where I'm like, I don't even know what to say and I don't even know why I'm crying but I'm just gonna cry and he's like, okay.

Okay. Alright, well, you just let me know. And there's times where I'm like, no I need you to say this or he says something and I'm like, that's not what you need to say. And he's like, you just let me know when you're ready to talk and I'm like, okay, but I need to cry this. And he's like, you just let me know when you're ready to talk. And I'm like, okay, but I need to cry first. That's so relatable. I feel like that's always, you can attest. I'm like, this is what I need to hear right now. Yes. And I was like, why can't you come up with the right words on your own?

Okay. Random, I have ADHD, so this is why I just thought of this, but what happens if you get pregnant while you're on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders? Oh, oh wow. Can you still dance? I don't think you can kick that high. Has there ever been a pregnant- I'm not too sure if that's something that we've really thought about, because I feel like that's just kind of an unspoken like-

Don't get pregnant? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. How does that affect you guys with planning a family travel? Yeah. I'm assuming you probably might want to have kids? That's a good question. You are the first people that have asked.

I'm not like, this is really speedy. Oh yeah, that's a five year plan then. Yeah. Pretty much. So really, I'm so grateful for Will. Obviously, he sacrificed so much for my dream. And I think that's pretty clear too, like on the docu-series. I know he touched on that briefly, but I think-

Oh, it was so sweet. He said his dream was you yeah and I had no idea that he had said that like he never told me that that you know when they interviewed him that he had said that so when I saw it for the first time I was like oh my gosh jeez way to just mmm you know, so, I think that's just kind of an unspoken thing that we just, like, don't really talk about, but like, we know that just can't happen, because obviously, like, it's, the uniform is a little revealing in that way. Well, my main fault is my belly button does not look like it can be in a Dallas cap. Fun fact, though, there was a DCC at one point that did have a daughter.

No way. She was such a go-getter and she was a killer. I was like, wow, go mom. I wouldn't aspire to be like that. That's awesome. Yeah, she broke boundaries and set like or broke expectations. It's just really cool to see her kind of conquer, I guess, like a stereotype that you kind of have over that topic. Yeah. But yeah. Because you can definitely dance, you can dance while you're pregnant, right? Like that's not a thing. There's no way your kicks could be high. Your belly would literally pervade. Okay, okay, hold up. But like, let's talk about like, first trimester maybe, but that would be really hard. I don't think you'd have a physical ability. Let's do the math. Would it be possible to be pregnant while you're still dancing and then like have the baby during the off season then come back for the next season? Would that be possible?

No. Would that be possible? Did you see their show? That's true. Did you see me go through postpartum? You need a whole year, but you could probably take a year off, I'm guessing. You could have to do it. Hey, you could. But... Your belly button would maybe not... I will say, a lot of the girls who have retired are now becoming pregnant, which is super fun and super exciting to see that they're starting their families, but I think that's just something that Will and I have had that conversation of like, you know, we're not ready to be parents because we have a lot to figure out already. that like Will and I have had that conversation of like, you know, we're, we are not ready

to be parents because we have a lot to figure out already. Obviously after a whole month I could not even picture us being parents right now because we have a lot of stuff that we're just like trying to juggle but I, we've kind of like dreamt about what life would look like post-TCC and like family and stuff like that, but as of right now, like I want to pursue this and like if the Lord's tugging on our hearts to move and close this chapter and journey, then you know, we'll listen, but as of right now, like we're here. This is it.

This is it. How many kids do you and Will want to have? Ooh, good question. I think three or four, but Will and I have also talked about like, Lord willing if, I know unfortunately there's like complications and other things like we can't really plan like what that's gonna look like, like if I can become pregnant or if I can or et cetera,

but we would also love to adopt. I have a cousin who's adopted from Ethiopia and she is just the most beautiful person in the whole world. But it's been really special to kind of have someone adopted in our family. And I don't know, it's just so beautiful. And so we've talked about that. And yeah, so maybe three, four, but I would love to be a boy mama, but also girl mama. Like, I don't know. Just whatever. Boy mama's the best. The best.

It is. It's a lot of fun to have boys. Why boys? Is that because you had older brothers? Older brothers? I would love to have like two older brothers and then a girl because that's exactly like what I grew up with. And I think it was so special to have just two older brothers who always looked after you,

but also they were a lot older than me, so it'd be cool to have kind of a best bud or like a friend, whether it's a boy or a girl, to have them a little bit closer in age. But yeah, I would say two boys and a girl, but if the Lord blesses us with all girls, then great. If he blesses us with all boys, great. Like we just want a fun, big family.

That's awesome. Is Will also, like with the same opinion on hey, three to four? Yes. He is. I think so, yes, he actually told me the other day, which is so sweet, it like makes me cry every time, but he's like gosh, I just can't wait to be a dad.

Like he's just gonna be the best dad. We're gonna have such a crazy, fun, chaotic household and I cannot wait for that one day. But he would love to coach like the boys or he would love to, he had a sister. So he participated in all of the dance performances and all of that. So I think he would be a great girl dad or a great boy dad.

It has been a pleasure having you on the show. If you guys haven't already followed Reese on Instagram, go do that. Where else can people find you other than Instagram? So I am on TikTok. I'm trying to become like really cool and Gen Z-er, even though I'm not in the Gen Z generation. I just

You know find me on tik-tok. We're doing our best, but it's very real organic and we're just trying See I am on tik-tok, but my panhandles are the same. They're the same on Instagram as Awesome. Yeah, sweet. What is that exact handle? It's Reese underscore Christine with an extra E at the end after Christine. Well you heard it from Reese. You guys, should we say what's up dudes? Should we say that? We should say, wait what's up dudes? I mean oh peace out, what am I saying? Yeah let's do it.

You guys wanna say peace out dudes? Peace out dudes. Okay, alright and as always, 3, 2, 1, peace out dudes. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes.

Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes. Peace out dudes.