The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Taylor Lautner x2 on Getting Married, Childhood Fame & Dealing with Paparazzi

Episode Date: July 5, 2023

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To my sister, she was like, I recently met a new friend, ironically enough, her name's Taylor. I think she could be your future wife. So were you team Jacob or team Edward? I was team Edward. I took a couple hangs, but then I ended up making the move. You made the first move?

No way. She likes to say that. It was tough being a sharp boy and being the actor kid. Usually when people are making fun of you or you're getting bullied in school, there's usually a reason. And it's because you're doing something right. Leaving our first date, there was Habratzi.

There's 30 flashers going off and you can't see what you're trying to drive. So it's a very scary thing. What's up dudes and welcome back to the Home Plan podcast. Feel like that was pretty good. That was great. You guys did a really good job. Thank you.

Today we are joined by Taylor Lautner and Taylor Lautler. That is crazy that you guys have the same name, by the way, it is. Does that get confusing? I feel like that's maybe the most common question, but I feel like for us, it just doesn't. Yeah. I don't know.

Do you use pet names for each other instead of Taylor? So free. Yeah, I only call you Han, I feel like. Yeah, yeah. And I also have got him, it's Taylor. Yeah, she only calls me Taylor when she's upset with me. Or if he's not listening, I'm like, hello, nice to Taylor. And our friends just kind of have it down. We're either Tay and Taylor or boy Tay and girl Tay.

That's cute. But we kind of have just learned to respond to anything and everything. And is it Lautner or Lautner? So. Because we did our research and we got confused. I heard you guys say Lautner and I was like, as everyone else saying, they are enough that you got confused because my sister likes to give me a lot of crap for this. It is my fault that nobody knows how it's actually pronounced

because I never corrected anybody. No, no. Decades. No way. It is technically Lautner. What? But I just never, in interviews or anything, stop somebody and said, it's not's not Lawtoner, it's Lawtoner.

And I just, once again, I just go with whatever. It's fine. I don't care. It's like tomato sato. I feel like it's like, you say it with a different accent. Yeah, accent. Lawtoner, Lawtoner, Lawtoner, it's all the same thing. And was that because like when you started,

you were a kid, right? So you were probably maybe a little nervous, like correct some reporter or something like. Like actually, you're saying my name wrong. Like I think when I was 11, like after Sharkboy and Lava Girl, I wasn't gonna tell people they were pronouncing my name. 11, wow. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. That must be crazy to like be in the limelight, to be in movies at such a young age. How did that come to be? It originally started through my martial arts. When I was like six, five or six, I started competing in martial arts, and then that became very competitive for me. That was kind of my life.

Every month, once a month, I had a tournament in a different state that we were traveling for and when I was eight, seven or eight, I met my crudian instructor and he was in the entertainment industry. He was actually the blue power ranger for a couple of years. Whoa. Whoa. And he was the one who like brought up the idea and was like, have you ever considered acting and me and my parents really?

No. It's like, I think you'd be really good at it. And for a while, we were just like, appreciate that. But good with school, crottie, football, baseball, like we've got enough going on. We lived in Michigan at the time. And he kind of just kept pushing the agenda. And eventually he was like,

why don't you guys come out to my house in LA for a summer, stay with me. I'll get you an agent. You can go on some auditions, see how you like it. And if it's not for you, it's not for you. And that's fine. So we eventually took them up on that offer and came out here for a summer, a month.

And I, yeah, that's kind of when I fell in love with it. We went back home to Michigan and my parents were like, so what do you think? And I was like, I wanna do this. And they were like, that's cool. Okay, and we did it for a couple years from Michigan and then of course that became exhausting. And my parents had to be like, I wanna do this. And they were like, that's cool. Okay, and we did it for a couple years from Michigan, and then of course that became exhausting. And my parents had to be like, all right,

if you really wanna do this, we have to move to LA. Whoa. And yeah, parents were in family, crazy supportive, at 11, we all packed up and moved to LA for this crazy dream. What? Wow. Was that when you already had the offer for the movie? No, no.

I so, I started like auditioning from Michigan at eight, then moved out here just after my, no, just before my 11th birthday. And I think we're out here for about six months and then I got a short-boiled love girl. Wow. Wow. Which was very quick. Like it's... That's extremely fast. Yeah. You hear a lot of nose in this industry before you, you know, start hearing yeses. So I was very lucky to have gotten my first like lead in a future film six months after making the move. That's crazy. I got a nerd out here for a second. When I was a kid, I thought Sharkboy and Lavagirl was the coolest movie ever. And so I feel like little

Matt would be crapping his pants, like, realizing he's with Sharkboy, you know, on the podcast with Sharkboy. Just to clarify, do you no longer think it's the coolest movie ever? I do. Actually, no, I actually do still think it's the coolest movie ever? I do actually no I actually do still think it's a coolest It does something the kids like it just it hasn't gone away like our friends kids watch it with like the same and I mean I was I was a kid when it came out and you bought the DVDs with like the blue and red Yeah, yeah, it sucked me in it just has this ability to just like Pull kids in and like any still today. Yeah, that, it sucked me in. It just has this ability to just like pull kids in and like any. And still today.

Yeah, that was how long ago? Almost 20 years ago. Came out in 2005. That's pretty unique for a children's movie too. Yeah. Like it has a cult following. It really does. It really does.

And that's was, was that your first like? It was my first, yeah. First thing that anybody, I mean, before then, I did do some like things that were fun that nobody would even know of like I Like did voiceovers on Scooby-Doo and what Danny Phantom and I saw that in your credits Really? There's some random things in there a couple television Charlie Brown movies But yeah, nobody would really know that. And then from there, you ended up doing Twilight, which was a huge success.

Did you think when you were starting in that movie, did you think it was ever going to get to the size or get the publicity that it ended up getting? No, is the short answer. So after, I mean, it's funny, and this chapter, not a lot of people know, is like I got Shark Boy, and then right after I did Shark Boy, I got cheaper by the dozen too, and I kinda did those almost back to back.

That's like my hand, and it's a good one. It was fun to film. It looks like a blast. Even at the end credits I always watch those like blubber parts. Yeah, I need to watch I haven't seen that one a long time But anyways, it was off to a hot start and I was like wow, this is easy Right like I just played a superhero and I'm acting opposite Steve Martin and Eugene Levy like yeah And then after that I I went through a dry spell where for

multiple years let's see I would have been 13 and cheaper um and then Yeah, and then I got Twilight when I was 16 at some point so at least three years of like when I was 16 at some point. So at least three years of couldn't book a job. I was going to school, I was in high school, and I just couldn't book a thing. And I was playing football in high school and I kind of like came to the conclusion in my mind

that if I didn't get anything by the end of the school year, whatever it was, I was gonna hang it up and just really focus more on football and just, you know, regular kid life things and then I did have these two auditions that came in at the same time are I Screen-tested for both of them at the same time. They're on the same day. I was screen testing for a huge Disney movie starring opposite the rock called Journey

to the Center of the Earth. What? And I was like, if I get this, my life is made. Career change. Definitely not giving up on acting. This will save me and I will this will just propel me to where I can't believe. And on the same day, I also was screen testing for a movie I never heard of that my agents told me was based off a book series and it's about vampires

and it's called Twilight. And I was like, I never never heard of that. I just wanna get the rock job. So I did the screen test for both movies on the same day. I left, I called my agent. I was like, yeah, I mean, both seemed to go, well, I really, the Twilight one would be fine, but I really want that rock Disney movie. And a couple weeks later, my agent called me, and they were like, we got good news and bad news for you.

I was like, what? And I'm like, you didn't get the rock Disney movie. And I was heartbroken. But you did get this twilight thing. And I was like, okay, they're like, I'm telling you. I'll do it. They're like, I'm telling you, Taylor. Like, this thing is gonna be big.

And I was like, okay, I've never heard of it, but I'll believe you here. So the answer is no, I did not see it ever becoming. Did you do your research before your audition? Like, did you read the books? Not before the audition. Yeah. Yeah, before filming, yes. And as soon as it was announced that I got the job, I was still in public high school.

I couldn't like go to school anymore. And I didn't even film the movie yet. It was just announced that I was going to be playing this role. And overnight, I'm in class. And people are like recording me in the middle of class. Wait, what? And I'm like, what is going on? I don't even know.

Weird. But there were apparently were? I don't even. Weird. But there were apparently, we're twilight, book fans before. Wow. Crazy. Yeah. How did that affect your childhood? Like having people recording you in high school and being in movies that, I'm sure other kids are like,

oh my gosh, it's Shark Boy. Like, let's go get a picture. Like, how did that affect you as a kid? As a kid, it was cool and all positive and great, going through it, but then during high school, it was tough because I was just known as that kid from Sharkboy and Lava Girl and the old, when I was a freshman or a sophomore,

like the older kids would just make fun of me all the time for that, which I mean, we talk about this all the time on our podcast. Like usually, and I, you know, you see this now when you get older and can look back on that, that usually when people are making fun of you or you're getting bullied in school, there's usually a reason.

And it's because you're doing something right. Yeah. And people are just jealous of that. And rather than trying to better themselves, it's easier to try and tear you down. So we talk about that a lot on our show. It's just like, if anybody out there is getting bullied, or in school just getting picked on, it probably means you're doing something right. So just know that in the back of your head.

And looking back on that, that's what was going on, but it was really tough in high school because it was tough being a shark boy and being the actor kid in school. Yeah. Yeah, they're totally just jealous. Like you were doing really cool things. I like to think that. I like jealous of you. For sure.

They weren't then they are now. So yeah, now. Totally. Totally. And Taylor, girl today. Girl, Taylor, I love that. Girl, Taylor, that's cute. The guys are like, you guys do girl, Taylor. That's the easiest. Yeah. But how did you, I don't know, you didn't grow up in the acting world. Did you? You didn't grow up with the limelight. Like, so yeah, what was your childhood like?

Very normal. Very, very average. Just grew up with my parents. You cut out of the dancer. I mean, yeah, I danced my whole life, but I mean, I also like, played every sport under the sun with it, but it was just like pretty, it was normal. Like, there wasn't like, the the closest thing, probably, too. The industry was like, that random person

comes up to you and the mall and is like, you should get an agent. Like, I don't know if you guys have this in the Midwest but like, at the malls here. Yeah. When I was a kid, there would be people that would like, come up to you and be like, like, try to like sign people's kids. Yeah. They, like, would be like agents from, agents from like agencies, like modeling agencies or whatever.

Is that a scam or is that legit? No, I think it will probably both. Probably both. It probably started off not a scam and then probably people figured out that they could get away with it. But that was our dog, Remy, the puppy. She got scouted.

So we're, it's his proudest moment. Well, we first got here. That's so funny his proudest moment. Well, we first got here. That's so funny. He said that. Well, we first got here. We were out somewhere going to eat and Taylor was ordering food and I was outside with her. And this guy came up to me and he was like,

does your dog have an agent? And I was like, excuse me? He's a good... This is real. Does your dog have an agent? Oh my god. Yeah, talk to our people. I was like, excuse me. He was like, you're dog. your dog have an agent? Oh my god. Talk to our people.

He was like, is her people? He was like, your dog. Does she have an agent? Does she do work? And I was like, no. He's like, you really need to get her one. Like, she is so pretty. Like, she would do great.

I know a buddy of mine who has a dog and he just said this commercial. I made this much money. He makes so much money off of his dog. Just some guy chatting to me and tell it was so random, but he was like, does your dog have an agent? I was like, that's the most LA thing I've ever heard. Oh my god. They think that's gonna be your guys' claim to fame, yeah.

Yeah. So we're, were you, were you a fan of the Twilight series by chance when you were? Oh, absolutely. Young, okay. Yeah, I read all the books. I was a big Twilight fan. So were you team Jacob or team Edward?

I was team Edward, but I would say it was too young for the abs. Like I was in like until like hot yet. Oh yeah. Yeah. It wasn't into muscles. Yeah, it wasn't into like a hot body yet. Were you into like the,

our team, I don't know, not that, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like I was too young to even figure out what I was. The whole white skin. Yeah, I mean, my friends could watch the movies, but my parents wouldn't let me. It was not allowed to watch me there. Really? I think I was only, well, my, so my mom and her like, she had a, what's it called? Book Club and they read all the books and my mom let me read.

She let me read all the books besides the last one because there's like, the last one has like the whole sex scene or something. There's something that's like a little sketchy in the last one so she like didn't let me read that until like until I was in high school. No until eighth grade. I don't know. I know there was like someone of a restriction not as big as a restriction as your restriction was but that was just on the book but then on the movies. We were very shallow. I was like one of the people. I was one of those people that would go to the movie theater and do the marathon. So before a new movie would go...

I remember that. They'd play the other ones, like, Insequential Order. Like when the fourth movie would come out, the night before they would play one, two, three, or one, that's crazy. And she would go watch those. And then watch the fourth one. Yeah. That's crazy the fourth one. Yeah. That's crazy.

That's so unique. You don't hear about that happening. I don't think that happens anymore. Any more. Like people sitting through four movies. Yeah. Back to back. Yeah.

Nothing has had that kind of chokehold on humanity. On the drive over here, Abby disclosed me that she was indeed Team Jacob. Even though I wasn't on to watch the movie. Somebody. All right, go on. I'm pretty sure I indeed Team Jacob. Even though I was not watching the movie. Somebody. All right, go on. I'm pretty sure I was Team Jacob. I definitely, I thought, like, and I still think you're very cool by the way. I keep saying I thought you were cool.

I still think you're very cool. Thank you. I appreciate it. No, I was like, that guy is cool. Like, he looks so tough. I don't know if I quite put the connection together of like, Jacob was Shark Boy. Like, I don't know if I've put that up.

But a lot of people still, I don't like I just got a tick talk like a couple months ago um and I've only made two tick talks um I really need to up my game but when I I one of my tick talks was a Sharkboy line in so many people like commented like What the guy from Twilight is Sharkboy and I guess a lot of people don't don't know that so many people commented, like, what? The guy from Twilight is Sharkboy? And I guess a lot of people don't know that.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm super impressed by the way. You've only made two TikToks and you're already had a million followers from two TikToks. Thank you. So consistency is always my problem, social media. Yeah. Also joining late, like I got inst

Yeah, I like to Instagram. I never got anything before Instagram and then Instagram I got in like 2016 and then TikTok I got in 2023 like last week. Yeah, my month ago. Yeah. Oh, you didn't even have it. It's not like you just weren't making them like you know, I didn't even have it. I got one at the beginning of COVID and then my phone was like glitching and that was when it was like is China breaking into our phones and I was like I don't know what's happening here but there's a lot of glitching going on in my phone so I just deleted it. It got you into this and I was like I'm not even really on it that much it's gotta go. But then I probably got it like the beginning of the year. Yeah.

At the beginning of the year. I was like okay we need to. Have you guys seen those? Have you seen those TikToks of people being like I love love China, China's the best, China's my favorite. And they like saying it to their phones. It's kinda like help them on the algorithm. I don't know if it's so funny. That is so funny.

China's the best. I love China. So we were listening to some of your podcast. Your podcast is very good, by the way. I feel like it's like therapy is therapeutic. You guys are so chill and very emotionally intelligent. So, love your podcast to squeeze. You guys should go follow, subscribe.

I think you guys are on like every podcast platform, right? Yeah. But you hope so. We were listening in and you mentioned, I remember like I never watched like the VMAs growing up, but I had like I like new kind of what it was. And I remember hearing about this crazy thing, where Kanye West went up and made an announcement

at the VMAs while Taylor Swift was getting an award. I'm like fumbling up on my words right now. And you were the one that presented the award to Taylor Swift and you were mentioning that on your podcast. I was like, holy crap, that was something that you literally experienced first hand. Yeah that whole Contastrophe I lived a lot of life back in the day Including that and I guess did you even realize when that whole event happened? Did you even know what was going on? Could you hear what was going on?

No, I think that was the main problem is I couldn't hear what was being said. So I just assumed that it was like a pre-planned skit. I was just watching from 10 feet back and I'm just watching them from behind them. And I just, just signed Kanye West topped up on stage so it must be a plan. Obviously they're not going to tackle Kanye on stage. So yeah, no, I thought it was something that was planned and assumed everything was fine and dandy until she turned around after and I saw the look on our face and I was like, okay, wow. Clearly, that wasn't planned. Yeah. Unplanned. Unplanned. That's hilarious.

Yeah, but no, it was just, yeah, that was our moment. I actually watched your SNL appearance while we're doing our research and I was really impressed first of all. I think you were one of the youngest people ever to host SNL. So at the time, there's been a lot of time that's passed since then. So I don't know who's passed me, but when I hosted it, I was the third youngest. Wow.

17. Wow. It was terrifying. I'm sure, that's, I mean, the live aspect is, I can't even imagine the pressure. You're like, I got one chance at this. I was crapping my pants. And he said, no at first, too.

Because I was so intimidated. Wow. I was very honored, but I was so intimidated. I said, I can't do that. So I declined it. And now the creator of the show ended up getting my number and calling me and being like, and just convincing me, it's like, you can do this.

I was like, no, I can't. I was like, I can't sing. I can't dance. I can't do impressions. That's all you do on your show. And somehow he convinced me to do it. And the comedy element is so hard too because comedy is just so difficult. Yeah, it went great. It's one of the things I'm the happiest I did. It was so cool. I think me too.

Because now we get to show our kids that one day. That's cool. Dad did this show and dressed up in these funny outfits. Yeah, we show our friends all the time. Oh yeah. Like, friends of ours that haven't seen it, we'll just pull up one of the skits. It's fun.

Yeah, like what I did. Yes. So you're living this crazy life at this point with all these very very high level, like celebrity status and stuff. And then you're just, what are you doing at this point? Nursing?

You're five years behind me in age. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm, yeah. So when I'm hosting a SNL, you're 12. Yep. I'm in a big space. See, isn't that weird? Like now it's totally your age difference

doesn't seem like anything. But then you're watching movies of him. Yeah, in my mind, still today, it doesn't, like, that's not him. Like, it's just different. Yeah. Like, it's just you're a different person. I'm a junior from Spikeids. L-P-H- but really, in my mind, some people are like,

how does it feel to be dating someone? Like, it was my favorite, I had a toilet thing, birthday party before, I loved it. Really? And people are like, how is that feel? I'm like, honestly, I don't even like, even when I met him, I didn't even feel like that, because he's just so like down to earth and just like chill. She also just doesn't care about celebrities. It's like eerie.

Either dude either does Abby. So like when chillist it's crazy. When we were living in Hawaii the whole entire like high-pouse pulled up to this gas station and I was like crapping my pants like, oh my gosh, these are the people. This is the freaking high-pouse. I've been watching their videos when we first started TikTok because it was like the dream for me. I was like, this would be so crazy to do social media and for it to be our job.

Now they were the top of your industry. Yeah, and I wanted to go say hi, and I was so nervous, and Abby was just like, Abby was like, are you seriously gonna go say hi to the hype? Do you not even care right now? Abby just is just like, they're just some people, you know, like, I don't know.

So that's funny that you're the same way. There are some celebrities that if I was like in, like the same room with them, I would make you go up to them. Who? Actually, I'm a girlfriend of mine was just at a restaurant and Jason Seagull was there. I would make you go up to him. Really?

Yeah. Okay. Isn't how I made your mother. Oh, she's obsessed with that show. I've never seen her. She's made me want to. But I love him as an actor though. He's seen some really great stuff.

That was when I just thought of. I love you, man. Uh huh. Yeah. He's great. Okay. I'm noted if we ever run into Jason Segal. Yeah.

Sometimes I'll make you go up to people. Yeah. Mainly it's him being like him being a fan of someone and I'm like, go, go, go say hi, go say hi. He's like, they're not going to know who I am. I'm like, they're going to know who you are. Go up to them. Oh my goodness.

That's usually how it goes down. They don't know who I am. Like, I think they probably do. I'm going to go with over there. I'm so curious how you cross past, though, because yeah. Seems like you weren't in the same circles at all. So when he moved to Michigan, or moved from Michigan, he moved to the same city that I'm from,

and we literally lived 15 minutes apart, parents still lived 15 minutes apart. But we didn't know each other, but his sister is a year younger than me, and we went to opposing high schools and kind of knew of the other, because it's a small town. So we knew who the other was, but we weren't friends. She goes to school in Nashville. My best friends go to school in Nashville.

They become friends, roommates, and I had gone out there to visit my friend for her birthday and met McKenna there just randomly out one day. And then they came home for a Christmas break and then I met her at my friend's house again for the second time of like a girl's night. And apparently after that she called Taylor and was like you need a thorough game night. I just met your future wife. Like we need to get around that.

Yeah so my sister said this whole thing. Wow. She knew. Yeah she's like you need to throw a game night. I'm famous for throwing game nights. We need to be a game star. Very good game night. So next time you guys come over.

I love games. Which games, yeah, games are. Very good game nights. And next time you guys come over. I love games. I love games. Which games do you guys like to play? Are Go2s especially at game nights are running charades? Never heard of it. Mafia. I played that a few times. That's a fun one.

But that's kind of like an end of the night, like mellow, like turn all the lights off. Running charades like a very high energy fun. You play different types of games than we play. You're like center on a table with cards. Yes, well that's a midwestern game night. I feel like cards, like I feel like cards. You can anyone? Okay, do you guys play you can?

I've learned you can. I learned you can, but I do not remember it all. It's very complicated, right? Yes, it's tough to grasp. Once you learn it. If you play card games, I feel like it's easier to pick it up. You'll pick it up, yeah, if you like card games,

you'll get it. We like a tan. Yeah, settlers of Catan, you guys played that? Nope, so much fun. Very nerd. We'll have to teach you. Very nerdy. It's like, I'll trade you two sheep for one wheat.

Or like, could you trade me a rock for ore? It sounds so nerdy, but I swear it is the funnest thing. It is so nerdy, but it is really fun. So it's its own game. You don't just use a regular deck of cards. Oh no, yeah, you gotta have the card. You know what, we have the expansion pack too. Yes.

So we can invite another couple. Yeah, oh wow. Oh, wow. Okay. They have several versions too. Like if you invite another couple. Yeah, oh wow. Oh, okay. They have several versions too. Like if you've ever seen Game of Thrones, they have a Game of Thrones Catan. Okay.

Oh wow. What's the end goal of the game? Domination. To have to get the most settled. Actually, yeah, you need 10 points. So you could have the longest row of plus settlements. There's like so many ways you can win. Okay.

Which makes it complicated and you have to be strategic to win the game because someone could be Under the table building the largest army and you have no idea and they flip their cards over and you're like oh for a Large army and it's like and they have the longest road. Oh my gosh Wow, and so weird that the goal of the game is to get 10 points when it's like such a complicated game, but like it sounds so simple 10 points Yeah, 10 points, but first to 10 you can it's more about like haggling and bargaining and Matt is So shady I like to I like to bargain and haggle Something funny. I just thought of you mentioned your sister connecting you guys and I think I saw one of your sisters

Ticktocks because now that I'm thinking about it. No, we definitely did there is this I want to say it went viral of of your sister's gender reveal for her baby. And everyone in the comments was like, wait, was that Taylor Lawner in this gender reveal video? Oh, it's just like a brand new video? Yeah, you're just in there, giving your guess. Well, it's one of those videos where it's like, I'm your uncle and I think you're going to be.

You're filming that? Oh, I don't remember filming. Yeah. I don't know if I ever saw the TikTok, but yeah. It's a, well, all the comments are like, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, and a new friend, ironically enough, her name's Tay Taylor. And yeah, I think she could be your future wife and you should throw a game night, invite me and I'll bring a bunch of my friends over

and Tay will just be one of them. And you can just see what happens. Did you know you were being set up at this time though? No, I was just thought I was going over there for a little game night. And it's funny because when she texted my friend Alexa and I, Alexa and I too, like ourselves were like, why is my kind of inviting me to go

because my kind of is like very protective of Taylor. Very, very, very. And is she an older, younger sister? Six years younger. Oh wow, yeah. And so we were a little confused why she was inviting me because I'd only met her like twice. And she usually vets people out for like 10 years before she introduces them to me. Yeah. So we were like that's kind of odd. We were like

oh well like I guess she knows that I'm like a normal person and like to play games So let's go. Why was she so protective was there ever something that happened? We're that like shot made her rethink her judgment nothing specifically I can think of off the top of my head Maybe there was an incident or two but yeah, I think just growing up with your brother on the spotlight like that She just wasn't good sister who was like, I don't know. Also like wanting to just check people's intentions too, I bet because I know she didn't. Yeah, also herself.

Yeah. She wants to make sure people are being friends to her. Yeah. Because of her. Yeah. Not just trying to get to a problem. That's good. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And she's very good at that. Yeah. But for Tay, she let her write in. She didn't. Has that ever been an issue for you? Have you ever had people that you got close to just to find out? Oh, I think they just want to be my friend. No, I'm sure.

Because I was in the Twilight series because I was Jacob. I was Shark Boy. Yeah, I think I've... I feel like it was almost a blessing that Twilight happened when it did in your life because you didn't really have that many friends because he was kind of like an outcast in high school. So like, it wasn't like he had a bunch of these friends and like, was in the popular crowd and all the stuff. Like, he didn't really have friends and then-

It's true. I wasn't popular at really one high school. Really? And then he dropped out, well, he finished high school, but left high school to go film these movies. So I feel like there wasn't like a lot of like friendships made and he moved out here too from Michigan. Yeah. Born here. So I don't have like tight close friends before like, Twilight happened. So that kind of was like a start of a new chapter of life for me. But yeah, I mean I like to think that I've always kind of had just a Good read on people and their intentions and

Some people you are fine being friends with but like friends with yeah, and then you're like, people you're like, you know, entitled in a circle. Just because somebody's like excited to be around you because you were in a movie they liked or whatever. Doesn't mean they're a bad person. Doesn't mean you can't necessarily trust them. It's just like different levels of friendship and how much you want to give to them or let them in on. But yeah, I like to think I have a decent read on that. Was that hard making friends then moving out here, not having a close circle in high school? Was it hard to find people that were truly genuinely just there for you and cared about you. Yeah, yeah, I think it was so hard that throughout middle school and high school,

I never like did. I found, I mean, plenty of great people, but I like to say, do you say this? That I was friends with like a lot of people. Yeah, because that's how I was. But not like really close with anyone. Ooh, like yeah, that's totally me. I loved people and just found a million ways

to like all these different like one lunch, I'd hang out with the band kids, the next lunch I'd hang out with my football guys, the next lunch like the random doth. Like I didn't have like my group that I was always with, kind of bounced around. Do you find yourself just like talking to people, like the person you sit next to on an airplane

or the person driving your Uber, like is that something you find fun? Cause that's totally me, like I just love, I'm bad at having those really close relationships, but I have like I know so many people and just love to meet people. Wait, question. Do you even do that? Since you are celebrity, do you just go on a commercial flight? Yes, we definitely fly commercial and we definitely take Uber X's. Is it like, do you ever feel like there's like a weird security risk or privacy

Thing with that there. I mean yeah, definitely. Yeah, you definitely have instances but It's just a way I feel like we go about it now. It's just like different and that was something I had to learn too Yeah, I never had to yeah I kind of ask you about like your transition and okay, so game night, we were talking about game night. How did you go from game night to marriage? There was five years in there, we kind of missed.

I know you have a whole episode coming out about this. So for all the details, I can tune into that. It'll be up by this point. Yeah, I want to ask you guys how you met, but I know you're also doing an episode about that on your podcast. So like, if you, I mean, that's it. The game night.

The sister set up game night is how we met. And then, yeah, I mean, that's it. The game night. The sister set up game night is how we met. And then, yeah, I mean, it kind of just went from there. It took, TAY multiple hangs to realize that I was into her. I don't give. Yeah, I had no clue. I don't make the boldest of moves. OK.

And I will admit that. It's my favorite thing about him. So it's not all her fault, but it did take her quite some time to realize I wasn't just being super nice to my sister's friend. Yeah, and I was just like very much. I think I was very much just not even thinking it at all. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, multiple reasons when I was just out of a relationship. So I was like, I'm in a certain nursing school. I'm not gonna date, blah, blah, blah, but also because my kind of was like my new friend. And I was like, I'm not like,

I'm literally like not even gonna look at a brother in any type of way because like I wanna be her friend. Like I don't want her to think I'm using her for her brother. Yeah. She also was still team at work. I was still team at work. She was. I was.

That's be honest. Yeah, so yeah, take a couple. I took a couple hangs, but then I ended up making the move. And you were a was. Let's be honest. Yeah. So yeah, took a couple, I took a couple hangs, but then I ended up making the move. And you were a friend. You made the first move? No way. She likes to say that. No way.

No way. I made it to here and then just wanted to be respectful and allow her, you know, I just didn't want to. Yes. So I feel like I did 90% of the work and then you close it off. You did the final tip for that. I did, I did, okay, yeah.

What do you mean by closing it off? I crossed the line for you. How did you cross the finish line? I've kissed him. He did the all living and then he was just like right here and I was like, are we gonna kiss? So, yeah. So you basically allowed it to be her decision on like,

do you wanna do it? So you were like face to face, and then she could initiate the kiss. I think especially because she was like, my sister's friend, a decent amount younger than me. I think that added to my personality. I was like, I don't wanna like do anything she, like if she's not feeling

the same thing, that's a nightmare scenario, me trying to make a move on my sister's friend. And I think about that with my brother. I'm like, the brother's sister aspect does make it pretty damn cheap. And meanwhile, I'm thinking like, so our first kiss was on New Year's, but not like at the ball drop. I was at like five in the morning. But when the ball was dropping, we actually didn't talk about this It's true You guys have exclusive Oh, I'm actually just realizing it. Why did we talk about that? I guess it's not really meant to help glossed over

Yeah, we did So like at like we're watching the ball drop at Taylor's on your planned exclusive and All of our friends are there And he's like standing behind me, twirling my hair. That's like what his thing, he like twirls my hair. That's like his, that your nervous thing, but it just, I don't know, you do that. But he was standing behind me, twirling my hair

that countdown's going on. And I'm like, okay, there's two options here. I can either just stand here and maybe he'll come around and kiss me or maybe he won't. Maybe he's just twirling my hair because he is affectionate and that's what he does. Maybe he is just affectionate to his sisters.

So this whole stranger. His sister's friend. I don't have siblings and I was told that Taylor is a lovely person. So I'm like, oh, maybe he's just, I don't know. I don't have a sibling. I don't know how these things work. I don't know how these things work.

Maybe he's just being nice to one of my kind of friends. I don't know. Who knows? I don't know what I was thinking. Just standing pressed up against behind you, playing with your hair. So that was my option one. It was just a safe-asing for it.

Option two was to turn around and kiss him and then realize that he didn't like me and he was like, what are you doing? And then McKenna hates me and then the night is ruined. So I chose option A to just stay facing forward and didn't move and Taylor didn't make a move. So we just watched the ball drop back. I thought my move was...

Every day to me. Thought my pressed up body against the back of you. You were pressed up against me. I was right behind you, like hovering. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But nothing just Zoned on the TV very focused on that I'm not moving. I'm not living if you also move Well also because every guy dated before him like Like Taylor's nice about that like every other guy was like aggressive with like making a move like that And Taylor was like very sweet and like respected me. I think that's probably the biggest thing because you're very respectful of me Was this technically oh sorry was this technically a date? No, this was just, I think, I...

We never hung out one more. We never hung out one more. Yeah. People over for new years, through like a little New Year's party. Yeah, I think we'd hung out like four or five times, but... All in group settings.

Mm-hmm. But, I kinda texted a little bit, but I think there was just something inside of me that new, but my brain wasn't like going there. I felt so comfortable around him and it was just like very, very natural. Hey, really quick, starting up, but it would be really nice if you would just give us a like, a five stars. It really doesn't take much time and it just means a lot. Yeah, and by five stars we mean a review. But hey, if you wanna give us a four star,

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Like how old are you? Yeah, I was, yeah, 20. guys now back on to the episode. You met as adults, right? Like how old are you? Yeah, I was, yeah, uh, 20. Was there ever a part of you that was like still that like, I don't know, teenager that was like, I am dating Taylor Lautner. I mean, we definitely had like whirlwind things of like going out to like events and stuff and we're literally sitting next

to Justin Bieber and Taylor's after, is like, why are you so normal? Things of me literally sitting next to Justin out of the vent and things like that you would think would be like, I would be panicked over, but it was just so normal. It just felt so, I don't know. I definitely did feel very, very, very tail-ish when I went to go visit him in London, because we, after New Year's, like two and a half weeks later, he left for three months to go film a show in London.

So, like, this, like, we kissed on New Year's, and I was like, okay, so this is something, but I leave him two and a half weeks to go film a show in London for three months. So we had to have that conversation of what do we want to do when I go and do this. We decided that we were going to try it and be exclusive after I left. And I was like, no pressure. I know you've known me for max a month now, but I would love for you to come visit me in London and then think she would I think that conversation was the first was like the only time

like This celebrity aspect of you came into play because I thought he was asking me if he wanted to be exclusive because he didn't want to be Like I thought he was wanting to like go and like. Thigh brought up the conversation. I was like, I'm leaving. I'm gonna be gone and see other people. Yeah. Do you want to be exclusive or no? And in my mind, I'm thinking that he is like wanting to be.

Like that's why he's saying it because he like lives. Like I think that I'm wanting. No, you're wanting to be, yeah. Correct, you're not wanting to be exclusive. Yeah, okay. you're wanting to be yeah correct. You're not wanting to Yeah, okay, you're wanting to be like completely single going there Right, but ever and I just like didn't give an answer because I was like, I don't know. What do you want to do? Meanwhile that you were just wanting to be exclusive and you were wanting me to say that but I had no clue You're exclusive from that point then though. Yeah, and you had been you had just gotten out of her relationship

Taylor have you been dating at all? Like, what did that look like for you at the time? I had not had a serious girlfriend in a bit. So yeah, I mean, I had been trying the dating thing, but had not had a girlfriend in a while at that time. Gotcha. So I was ready. And were you thinking of marriage or you're just thinking of, hey, maybe this, like, we'll just see where this turns into or what this might be, but like, what was your kind of

goal, your end goal with the whole? I definitely wasn't thinking marriage, but I think at that point, I, you know, subconsciously was at the point where I wasn't interested in dating just for the fun of it. Yeah. Yeah. I would only date somebody if I could actually see a real future with them. Yeah. And was this, when this all happened, was this right before you took a break from acting?

Yeah. And was this when this all happened? Was this right before you took a break from acting? Yeah, kind of yeah, when I went and did Kuku in London when she visited that was the last project I did Wow in a few years Yeah, so yeah the beginning of our relationship was the end of Acting for that stage. Wow. Yeah. I think it took meeting her for me to realize, like, there's more to life that I haven't been, you know, paying enough attention to. And that's kind of, that was the strong, the camel's back. Wow.

To me wanting to take that step back so I could focus on you know other things That's really cool. So was the was the relationship the main purpose for taking a break? Or is there more to it as well? I mean it It was the final straw it might it wasn't the only thing like it wasn't I need a break from acting to date this girl. But I think it just kind of made me realize, it was like the final thing I needed to make me realize that there's more to life than working back to back, just all focused on the job. Yeah, and I mean correct me if I'm wrong here, but like me also being the first like normal person,

he's dated, I don't have anything to do with the industry. So like, there's no, like, I just feel like he saw a different like, yeah, world of stuff, you know, like we can't like, he come home and I just talk about my Dave as a nurse and like, all my friends are normal. So like all, it was just like, there was, he just really was realizing. What is it your family, the very modest home and have just a homemade dinner with her parents and it just was all super refreshing

in something that I hadn't had in a while. That's a very interesting dynamic, like celebrity. And then I mean, normal sounds bad, but like, I don't know why. I know, I know. I don't mean it. Even like you're not just normal, I'm like, no, but that, even when I said that earlier, I was like,

that sounded so bad. Oh, yeah, that's not the fault. That's it. What I'm trying to say. But like, since you guys both have like experience now, like in both worlds, like what are the major differences? I'm so curious, like are all celebrities like a certain way or generally or I don't know, I'm so curious about the celebrity side of things. I mean, there's

definitely just like, you just kind of have to like learn to do things different, like leaving our first day or like one of our first dates, there was paparazzi and they were flashing and it was all coming through the front of the car. We get so weird for you and you're like, this is normal. I don't know what's going on. I just get in the car and Taylor, we get in. He puts both of the sun visors down and I was like, it's literally pitch black outside. Why do you do that?

He was like, it blocks your face. It blocks the flash. I was like, oh, literally pitch black outside. Why do you do that? And he was like, it blocks your face. Like it blocks the flash. And I was like, oh, I never would have thought about that. Well, it's also in that instance. It's very dangerous because there's, you know, 30 flashes going off and you can't see where you're driving. We're trying to drive. Driving.

And if you run over one of their toes, it's not there fault. It's yours. Oh my gosh. So it's a very scary thing. Yeah. So things like that are like how we travel like yeah, he always gets the window seat and I have the aisle which is because you need it, but also I'm you can have the window. But yeah, with like driving like with a driver now like he won't speak to the driver because like people will recognize his voice or like the mass thing was the best thing to ever

happen. I think to celebrities because like they can just hide their face. But then they're still like in the middle of COVID we went to the grocery store in Taylor's like whenever he goes out he's always hat in glasses everywhere. Yeah. He doesn't like not wear a hat out. Wow. And he literally had a hat sunglasses and a mask on and we're in line at the grocery store and these two probably like 30 year old guys were behind us. And they were like, are you the guy from Twilight?

I'm like, how do you, you don't even see his face? Like there's literally nothing of his that you're seeing right now, but they must have heard you talking. Yeah, it was like that same thing happened at, uh, where you're snowboarding once. Oh, you're like my whole face is covered. I had like a helmet, goggles, like, uh, like a mask, like snowboarding once. You're like my whole face is covered. I had like a helmet, goggles, like a mask, like snowboarding,

and everybody found out. And I was like, what did you see? The only thing you could have saw was my nose. That is the only thing that was coming. They've studied your nose. Yeah, they were like, that nose. I've seen that before. Where wolf?

Yeah. I feel like that could be maybe why people get the perception like celebrities are like, I don't know, standoffish like not wanting, but it's like you just don't want that attention. You just want to like, like, love your life. I can totally understand if you're just trying to go to the grocery store, you know, do something just to get out of the house and someone's in your face trying to get pictures of you or make up some story about you, that must be really frustrating. And all just depends, it depends on your mood for the day. I was just gonna say that. Like, some days you wake up and you just are in a great mood and you're like, I, you know.

I'll take all the photos, I'll talk to all the people. And then other days it's like, I'm not, I don't feel like speaking to anyone right now. So. Yeah, not, I don't feel like speaking to anyone right now. So. Yeah, today, like, I don't feel like speaking to strangers wanting to do something normal. But some days you're totally fine with it. It really just depends. Yeah. We were talking off camera about you guys going to Mexico and there was a slightly sketchy incident where someone was like, like, hey, come follow me to this background. And then you guys are like, no, and you dodged the person. Have you had other scary instances like that

or just situations that make you just kind of uneasy? Oh yeah. Plenty. Yeah. Can you? I mean, that airplane one for me. Yeah, she had a whole airplane. That has caused her now.

Well, I think I'm a little better because we have been flying a lot. Yeah. Recently, I used to never dislike flying, but then I went through like this spur, I'm still a little bit, but I went through like this spur of like being terrified to fly and like anxiety every time.

We were, where were we living? I see the airport, the one where we have to go up the stairs. Yeah. Anyways. Random small airport. So basically, like, when whenever we're out in public, I am just like, we, I feel like I'm a little bit more

heightened because I'm protective of Taylor, but I'm always looking at everyone. I can tell you every person in the room, everyone's wearing, where everyone's looking, like, just because it's like like if some people are looking at Taylor wanting to take a photo or go up or filming him from afar, we're not gonna walk that way, we're gonna go the other way.

Or if he's having a bad day and someone's filming him, I know how to position myself to protect him. So I'm just very hyper aware of surroundings. So it's like five in the morning. We're leaving somewhere, I don't know what the airport is. It was a very, like we had a six-A in flight. So it was like, it was like 445 at the airport. Yeah, and we had to do like another layover

and also the tickets I got messed up on the flight. So we weren't sitting next to each other. And so I was like a little, like not a little nervous about that just be also because I didn't want him by himself because I'm just thinking about him the whole fight. But anyways we got through TSA, got through like the little skinny thing whatever and this guy I see him like clock Taylor and I'm it's this big guy like I'm I'm like, he's probably like, probably like, six, five. Like, just this big guy. He's wearing sunglasses.

It's very early in the morning. And I see him like, look at Taylor. And I just watch him like stare. And then he's like, oh, like, I literally see the whole process. I'm like, I know him. I know him like, oh, that's who it is. And so I'm like, I tell Taylor that there's like, the guy that recognized him, whatever,

just to Claw it so that we're away. Yeah. We like walk past him and he's just like holding his phone like filming whatever a little annoying because it's literally five in the morning I got lots of bags going on. I'm like, not now And then he just kind of keeps following us, but then he keeps like I Just we walked past him and I just did not, I literally felt like it wasn't good energy at all. And I was just kind of creeped out. He was filming us from afar, which is fine, but then he like kept moving closer.

And so he's like zooming in and I was like, baby, I'm gonna wave at him. Like maybe like he just wants a wave. And Taylor's like, okay. So like I wave, he like smirks, but then keeps keeps filming and then we boarded the plane, get on whatever, for like that was weird, he left. Sitting on the plane, again we're separated and then all of a sudden like I see him walk on the plane and I'm like, you're joking me. And come to find out he's literally two rows behind me.

Directly, I'm like in the middle seat, he's directly two rows behind me. And I'm sitting there, I'm texting Taylor, apparently he was yelling Taylor's name when he walked on the plane. Like on the plane, he started heckling me as he was passing me. Like in a negative way?

What was he yelling at? Just like in a noxious way. Just like, Taylor, what's up, man? Just like screaming at me at 5 a.m. on the airplane. Yeah. Literally everybody on the plane starts like looking. It's like, who is he screaming at? And I'm just like not looking at him.

And then he goes back to his seat, two seats behind her. And then we're sitting there waiting for everyone to board and then I, like out of the corner of my eye, I hear him talking to the guy that's in the aisle seat behind me, switches seats with him and he comes up and he gets like behind me, it's over me over Macy.

He's like Taylor, are you Taylor, Dom Taylor? Like, like just like starts like saying all this stuff and he was like, either like filming or asking to take a photo and I was like, I'm so sorry, like not, like not right now. It was like trying to ask me questions and I was like frozen. Like this guy is so big, he could literally reach over the seat and like, strangled me

and I've never been scared of like a fan or anything before. And he was very in the airport, he was very obnoxious and inappropriate, just following us absolutely everywhere we went. And we clearly were trying to get away from him. And he just kept following us, kept filming us, being so obnoxious, comes on the airplanes, yelling at me, alerting everybody, saying who knows what.

Well, I guess actually before he moved seats, I saw him come on the plane and I went up to the flight attendant and was like, Hey, this guy on the plane, he just came on looks like this. He was just heckling my husband and she knew who Taylor was. I was like, can you just like make sure he's like not hanging around here, like ignoring, like, or, yeah, annoying him and like, just like, keep an eye on that. She's like, oh, yeah, of course. So she, she already knew. And then that whole thing happens where he comes up behind me. And I'm like texting Taylor.

Like, I was, we were going somewhere for work for him. And if we weren't going for work, I would have walked off the plane. I was like, like, I started crying in my seat. I was so nervous. And I always say, I was next to like two really sweet old men. If there was a woman next to me, she would have known like what was going on. Like I just feel like there's like the woman

in sync of like being scared of a man. But anyways, Taylor, I text Taylor, I'm like, you need to get the flight attendant to come over here, they need to move him. I'm like so scared. In the middle of them doing the whole safety instruction and Taylor's like, I can't ask them. They're literally like doing the whole,

the life jacket in this. And then that ends. She finally comes over and actually, it's not her. It's another flight attendant. And she's like, sir, like, I need you to go back to your seat. And he was like, really, you want to make me go back to the middle?

Like, this guy was nice enough to change seats with me. I'm 65 and needed to extend my legs. Like, I have to go back to the middle seat. And the flight attendant looked at me and she was like, really, like, you're going to make him move. It's that much seat. And the flight attendant looked at me and she was like, really, like you're gonna make him move. It's that much of a deal. And she looked at me and this was like the only time I've ever like had to stand up for myself.

And I was like, I'm so sorry, but I'm not comfortable with him sitting there. Like I literally had to say that, which I've never had to say in my life. It's really inappropriate for her to bring you into it with him right there. Yeah. And then the other flight attendant who I talked to came up

and she knew what was going on and she was like, so we need you to move back. And like the whole flight, I just like was so uncomfortable and I could just hear him talking. You can't leave. I went to the bathroom and got up once and as I was walking back to my seat, I like made eye contact with him

and he like took a shot or something. Like, he also wreaked a valve call. He was gonna leave that part out. But this whole time he wreaked. Yeah,. It was gonna leave that part out, but this whole time you wreaked. Yeah, so it was just like terrifying. That was like the only like scary, your fans are lovely. Everyone is so sweet, but that was like...

That was not a genuine fan. Yeah, it was just a little scary. So that was probably the one of the only times that I've actually genuinely like feared for like life. I feel like there's just like a dehumanizing element that comes once someone is celebrity saddest or married to a celebrity where that guy probably just did not even see you as a person. And that's something that you want privacy. And that's something that I feel is still in adjustment and still will be. because even when we were out to dinner

for after our engagement, we went out to dinner. And we're trying to enjoy our dinner and Taylor probably took like four photos. Like people kept getting, like being sat by us. And like, meanwhile, I'm like flipping my ring upside down because I'm not wanting anyone to see my ring because like we wanted to, like, it's just not like articles to be written.

Yeah, we wanted to announce it on our own time. But and tell your people first. Yeah, yeah. So it's definitely, luckily, hopefully, we don't have any more changes. I'll get pregnant at some point, but that'll be easy to hide because I got baggit clothes. At some point, at some point.

I want to talk. I want to talk. I did want to talk. Yeah, about that, but we we should probably we should ask them out They're waiting on your nose. What got my nose? What is it? What I see it? Inc on your nose. Yes. Oh, I can't see it. You can't see it or get off what you got it off for me Is it your mic? Maybe it's my mic You were joking

I was I was about ready to play along with you and go, oh yeah, it's all over. But then I realized you were being serious. You were the perfect little friend. Really? Oh, I did. I didn't see it, but I was ready to get you. Thank you.

I mean, not thank you. Something that I wanted to ask you is, I just saw that Tom Holland announced that he was taking a one-year break from acting. I don't know if you guys saw that in the media. Um, apparently he had like a really tough time with a serious role he played in a recent, I think it's an Amazon Prime. He played um, we were just talking about this.

Yeah, we love our crime. Oh, that's a series. She listens to like crime junkie and all these true crime things. I feel like, yeah, I'm like, are you plotting something? Okay. The crowded room, that's it. Apparently that role took a toll on him and so he's taking a break from acting.

And I was curious, Taylor as someone who's also taking a break, what would your advice be for him? Well, I respect his decision because he's doing a time where he's in all time high. And I feel like that takes a lot. It's much easier to take a break when things haven't been going perfectly. So I just really respect it and would just encourage him to take whatever time he needs. I'm very confident that whenever he chooses to come back, he's going to have plenty of opportunities waiting for him because he's fantastic. So just take all the time you need and just really respect that decision at especially at this point

Yeah, that's so true and you guys have been super open about mental health on your podcast to squeeze. I'm curious Was the break what you needed for mental health when when you took it for sure? Yeah at its core. Yes Yeah, I don't think I knew that. Like, it's not, I didn't know. You didn't go into it thinking I need a mental health. Yeah, it wasn't like I was like, oh man, my mental health is struggling right now. I need to step back. It wasn't like that. I think it took the step back and the break to realize, oh yeah, like I do need to focus a little bit more on myself and more on my mental health than everything else in life. So taking the step back is what opened my eyes

to the world of mental health. Yeah. Is it true that you guys got engaged in your kitchen? Yeah, that's so sick. Yeah, we did. Yeah, she always, I always sick. Yeah, we did. Yeah, she always, I always, you know, we knew it was going to happen and I, I always asked her, I'm like, what do you want?

How do you want me to do it? Like what kind of gesture is, you know, your dream scenario? And she every time was like, I literally, I don't want anything. I want, I just want to be engaged. And I don't- It took them a little I just want to be engaged. And I don't. It took them a little longer than I expected. So it was like four years. Or enough.

Yeah, four years before engagement. But she always said multiple times, like, I don't care. Do it one night like when we're having dinner in our kitchen. Like, that's all just an intimate moment between you and me. So yeah, I did that. I like to say that I did it big in the kitchen,

because I got it all dressed up nice and pretty, but it was in our kitchen. Yeah, that's sweet. It was perfect. And you had a pretty intimate wedding, like, it was huge. Yeah, now it's just under a hundred. Yeah, like 90 people.

Yeah. That's really cool. That also felt perfect. Yeah, yeah, I did. I'm very happy with how all of that turned out. That's beautiful. Did you guys have your wedding locally? Did you travel for your wedding? Somewhere local. Yeah, it's like our weekend getaway spot. Oh cool. We got married in a little wine country. That's about three hours from where we live and it's one of our like go-to getaway reset spots. So we already had been going for four years and we loved it and it just felt so right. We didn't want to get married like out of venue in a city that we

would never go back to and see again for the rest of our lives. Yeah, not that there's anything wrong with that, but we are just very like sentimental people, especially him. So we were like we want to go somewhere that you know we can visit again and like go back back and reminisce on everything. And keeping it small, is that just for privacy sake? Even privacy aside? I think it was just something that both of us just wanted. We had heard so much advice on how stressful weddings can be. We didn You know, we didn't want to be like meeting people for the first time at our wedding. Yeah.

So it was everyone, like even some of my friends that had fiancee or boyfriends, they didn't get a plus one because like I or Taylor didn't know them. And all of my friends, our friends totally respected that, which we absolutely love. But yeah, we just wanted to keep it like people that we knew. And like I didn't have to worry about meeting anyone or him meeting anyone, just like a safe,

a safe space. Yeah, people that we know very well, trust, or a huge, you know, a big part of our lives, people that we know are going to be a part of our lives. Like we just wanted it to feel really special and no regrets. It was truly perfect for us. Something I really respect about you guys is even though you, you know, you're very well known, obviously, you know, Taylor, you're a celebrity and- Spikes kids. And Spikes kids, I was spying on making that joke earlier. But like, you guys have every reason to flex on people.

You have every reason to, I don't know, think of yourself as super, super special. But you guys are humble and you guys are real. Incredibly humble. And like live very normal lives. Yeah, and you've just treated us so from the second we walked in your home, you guys treated us with so much respect and love. And I just think that's super cool.

I'm curious what I mean, your life just seems so normal, honestly, like it, I didn't know what to expect. It is. Meeting, meeting Sharkboy, I didn't know what to expect. Like a day to day like. Yeah. Probably less busy than yours. You guys probably have a lot more crazy life than we do. Definitely.

I mean, I also think we're able to live a life like that because we do keep ourselves removed to an extent. Obviously, hate still does stuff or we'll go to things. But I think it's just not putting value in those types of things, which is a large thing we talk about all the time. It's like we find value where we put value. And like, we know our value between like us

and our friends and our family, and putting value in like what carpet you're walking or whatever. Like, that's not where we find our value. So I think that helps like normalize it in a way, because a lot of the world that Taylor lives in and now I've kind of been in now isn't normal, but when you go about it as like, oh, it's whatever, it kind of helps normalize it. If I'm saying that. Yeah.

I think what I learned over the years and like including that step back that put everything in a perspective for me was, I think before living all of these incredible experiences you learn to think and believe that that is success. That is where you find happiness. Like, that is validation that you're doing things right. Yeah.

And when you're being invited on the biggest talk shows, when you're walking the biggest red carpets, when you're starring in the biggest movies, yeah. That is happiness. That is success. And now, you know, that I've, I feel like I have my head on straight and looking at things correctly, like all those things are amazing and they're fun and enjoy them

and soak them up and, you know, be appreciative for them. But that's not what is going to bring you true happiness in life. Yeah. Because if that's stripped away from you overnight, which it can be, it's not in your control. Yeah, fully. What's left? What's left? What's left in your life after that? And are you still going to be happy? And I think I was putting too much value in those things. And the second those things slow down a bit, you start getting down on yourself and feeling like you are a failure. Yeah. And that's an unhealthy place to be. Did you ever have an identity crisis? Because I know when I was doing my research, I was blown away. You were named as one of America's most sexiest men alive.

You were, I believe the highest paid. You married America's sexiest man alive. You literally married America's sexiest man. Yeah, I did. That's not weird for you. You're like, that's my husband. 2011. That's great.

That's great. Wait, did you, okay, were you nominated or did you officially get sexiest man alive? I believe for the There's all different kinds True, there's a lot of competitions. I believe for the peoples which I think is maybe the most talked about one I think for the people sexiest man alive. I was actually runner up Oh, I don't remember.. Oh, to who again? Oh, see.

I don't remember. I'm not a hundred percent sure. Does that do something mentally to you? Like you're being felt like a failure. Wait, did that mean a number two? Wait, so getting number two, you're like, oh, it wasn't number one. Like probably.

I don't remember in the moment, but I probably was like, the opposite was like, I am the second sexiest person alive. Like, I'm like, today I would be very thrilled about that. I've actually heard, I believe I read this somewhere that like in the Olympics, the person that wins bronze is usually the happiest, because like a lot of times it's someone who didn't expect to place, and then they're just like so grateful.

It should have been third. And when you're at that high level, if you don't perform, you have like all this to lose and it's scary, like I don't wanna lose this, I don't wanna lose this status, I don't wanna fail. And, I mean, back to what I was saying earlier, like did you have some sort of identity crisis at some point because not only that, I believe you were the high-spaid

teen actor in the world at one point. I've read those articles. Who knows? Who knows? I guess they're just like, you don't know where they're getting those numbers from yeah Yeah, I don't I mean But I think it's those types of things like that It's almost near impossible to not put value in those things where you see that stuff being written about you and you do have the world's largest target on your back.

It's almost like you can only fail unless you just crush life out of the park over and over and over, which is never going to happen. You're going to make mistakes, you're gonna fail. But when you're being held on such a high pedestal, it's tough to hit that. So it's easy to feel like you failed. And that's how I felt. But it's because I was valuing those things. It's because I was like believing what these people were saying about me and that I needed to do those things,

live up to it. Mary and Tay was just a breath of fresh air from all of that. That is a good way to put it in a very accurate way. Yes, I think it's exactly what I needed at that point in my life and really opened up my new eyes. Yeah, do you think you're planning on going back to acting or? Well, I actually did return you were in a Netflix movie recently. Have you found new joy in coming back?

Yeah, that movie felt like the perfect thing for me to do after the few year break because it was in the Adam Sandler family who I've worked with a few times before and love them, know everyone. So that just felt like a very comfortable environment. Yeah, so that was super fun and easy and you know, just had a great time with that. But yeah, I think now I'm starting to feel like I could be ready.

I don't know, I'm gonna play it by year. Yeah. I don't know how I want to hop on something for nine months out of the year and leave my wife and life that I have spent a lot of time and energy creating over the last few years behind, but yeah, I feel like I'm open if the right project comes around. That's really cool.

And then sometime growing a family? Yeah, are you guys gonna be having kids at some point? Some point. What's up? If I were to tell Taylor I want to child right now, he'd be like, great, sign me up. I'm definitely the holder-backer. Wow, she's the one holding it up for sure,

but I'm here whenever she's ready. And how many kids? Like, I'm ready to do my part. How many kids are we thinking? Right, do my part. Okay. Oh boy. I'm a team player.

Oh, good job. I don't know, maybe two. Maybe two? Maybe more? I don't know. She wasn't only. I was two. Yeah. Um, probably, the rings probably the max. We'd have to move. So, we're not space for that. Yeah, we were downstairs. We were trying to figure out which room would be their nursery. Ah. Yeah. Because I want to read to the bathrooms, but then the bathrooms need the one that baby's

going to go and needs to have a tub. Because that would be easier to like bathe them in. Got it. See, I don't think about these things. I'm a planner. He's not. He fits well in the unplannedness. I was one of the planner for us too.

I'm a planner. Yeah, more so than I am. That's the most ridiculous one. I'm a planner. That's why we named it the unplanned podcast. This is all for both of you. And Tay, you're doing some really cool stuff with your nonprofit lemon,

or lemons by Tay is the nonprofit, or it's the umbrella of... That's like the bloggy umbrella part of, it's lemons by Tay. That's what you started with. That was my first, left the hospital, had, I worked as a COVID nurse, I had, um, that's incredible. Yeah, thank you, by the way.

Yeah, I think. For being a nurse during that tough time. Yeah, I don't, I hate saying you're welcome. I don't know what to say with people say that. Take a compliment. But I'm horrible at that. But I ended up having severe PTSD from working that. So I left the hospital and I was like, I have his platform. I want to be able to like do

something good with it. So I started a mental health blog that turned into a non-profit. And then that turned into our podcast, the squeeze. But yeah, the non-profit is going great. So a little baby, you just turned one. But now that we're married and business things are finally like starting to move. I could finally like give it some attention. We've done some fun little community events, some walks, some soundbaths, and there's a lot of fun things we have planned for the next year with it. A lot of big, exciting things.

Yeah. Yeah. The next year coming. Yeah. We didn't talk nearly enough about your nursing, but like right when you got into that is when COVID happened, right? So I graduated, like fall of 2019, and then took my anklacks in February of 2020. And then gosh, yeah, was gonna go into surgery.

That timing. That clothes, because of COVID, and then I was like, okay, I really wanna work. I just like, I love nursing. I was the first thing I was ever really like passionate about school wise. Never got A's in high school. I was like sort of flying colors in nursing school. And it was like the hardest thing, but I was obsessed with it. And I was like, I got this

degree. I'm in applied to this one hospital that I really love during my clinicals. If I don't get it, I'm not, I won't work in the hospital. I'll just wait till COVID's over and I can work at an outpatient somewhere. Ended up getting the job. Wow. Taylor was not super excited, but he was very supportive of me. It was a night shift job, and it wasn't COVID originally. It was just like on a cardiac floor, and then we turned COVID for like five months.

So that was, yeah, that was a very large adjustment, but I'm like so thankful for all of that, because like we wouldn't be sitting here doing this. Like we wouldn't have, there wouldn't be lemons, there wouldn't be the foundation, there wouldn't be the podcast. There'd been none of that without her whole nursing experience. Yeah, so. Yeah, you don't think you'll return to nursing probably

and you found what you, you know, that's a good question. Thank you, Cassie. I definitely couldn't go back to the hospital just because it doesn't like work with our schedule. Now that everything's back to normal, I was able to do it during COVID because no one was working.

Everyone was home and it just like worked. But I'm still keeping up with my license just because it's something that I love to be able to say and it's definitely a part of me. But I still like nurse in my head. I'm still the nurse of the friend group. Yeah. If we ever need a nurse, it's nice to have a nurse. One day, it's great for me and a mom, I feel like there's a lot of things I wish that I

knew that I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm happy. And having babies like, I don't know anything about that. I just can't. Feeding time is so scary. I'm just like so terrified that it's going to show. Oh, yeah. And so I'm just like always like, I'm him. And I'm like, he's joking. And then I'll go to like try to get some out of his mouth

and I realize he's just pooping and he's holding his breath in his face. Oh, all injuries that your kids will find themselves with, you're gonna be like, yeah. I will be the cleaner upper of, and Taylor will be the player. That's how it works with our dogs. He plays with our dogs and I clean up the throw up.

Yeah, I do not do well with that. Yeah. And mental health is a very broad topic. Like what specifically, I guess, do you hope to accomplish with, let me just say, with the nonprofit, what's kind of the the focused area of mental health? Yeah, I mean, luckily for us, it is very broad. Everyone always says like you need to have your niche and whatever it is. And even though mental health can be looked at as a niche, there is still so many topics of it. But that's something that I'm kind of thankful for

is we're on the podcast, we cover so many topics. It just depends. Like literally from depression to ectopic pregnancies to deaths and grief and just like all of the things. It depends who are we have a guest on almost every episode we're starting to incorporate episodes that are just us but so far we've had a different guest on every episode it just depends what they're going through. Like they they're mental our guest mental health journey dictates what the conversation is

gonna be about that day or episode. Yeah, and I think my goal is just to continue. Like it is definitely something that's normalized, but it's kind of like the next step. Like what is that next step look like? Like okay, maybe you are depressed or struggling with something, like what's that next step? Yeah.

Going with it. So just like supporting people and making people feel not alone as cliche as it sounds It's like so needed even like myself. I need that to know that I'm not alone and something that I'm struggling with So yeah, that's kind of the goal with it Very cool very very cool. I feel like you guys is like passion for it. It just it shows and It's like really cool and exciting what you guys are doing Thank you. Thank you guys.

Yeah. Well, anything else, anything you guys want to add, anything you weren't able to share that you just want one people to know. I want you to know that I was Shark Boy, not Juni. Great. That's great. We got that now. We got it.

That's cleared up. There we go. I don't know when that made that. Also, I got to say it. I totally didn't say earlier. T-R-Pi that does in two is like such a good movie. I saw in theaters and yes, with my grandma. And I was like this movie, my favorite.

And we watched it on our baby moon with Griffin. Stop. I mean, yeah. The second one. We did. We did watch it. We did watch it. We did watch it. We did watch it did we've never watched it together

Really I haven't seen it in at least 10 years we watched it last year Wow It's really good. It's a great movie. I like the dog scene where they packed the seat with the meat We were just talking about that The singing, where the the Mertoss family was singing. Wait, I'm not sure. Can we sing it? What is it? The the Baker. The one who was a man, Michael Ferdinand. He'll sing that randomly. That's so funny. We're singing that and then we're like, hmm, hmm, hmm. You don't know what you're singing. No, I don't remember.

You remember the other people. Not nearly as fun as the Baker family. Oh my gosh, that's so fun. You were having to think of the other day. You were having to film with all kids. That was a dream. Do you keep in touch with any of those people or anybody from Twilight?

The closest person I am, yeah, go. I was trying to think. Yeah, me and Allison Stoner from Sheeper were, we did an episode with her. Yeah, she came out of my heart so much. Yeah, where you guys, the couple, that was the couple. Yeah, she was my love interest and she became very good friends after that and our families

became good friends. Yeah, wow. We lost touch for a little bit But we reconnected with her recently and she's just an amazing human Also from that I'm buddies with His name's Jonathan Bennett. I don't know what he played in that, but was in there. Yeah, what he's more famously the hot guy from mean girls definitely know that it we just met him in New York we were at this event for the New Year's Eve ball drop and he was like he was hosting it yes and so he was we were doing a paid partnership with KJ Larson so as he yes I think him and his husband host yes something there. Very, very kind. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, he was, he was in cheaper too.

He played... He was the boyfriend of... Hillary does, boyfriend? No, pipe or arrabos. The dad, they were like having a baby. I really need to watch this baby. You said a lot. He was the dad.

Like when she, like he was like the panicky dad in the hospital. Yeah. They're going to the labor. Yes. Okay, when are you going to work? He's like the protective fiancee. Like, from the crazy family. It's so funny how small the world is

in the entertainment industry, because we were just talking earlier about like, out saying, you know, I went to go see this DJ, Griffin, and they're guessing you guys, like, yeah, we're friends with him. I'm like, what's like, just how close? How close industry is, it's kind of cool to see that. Yeah, that is cool.

It seems like a little family. It works both ways though. Okay, either works like that or sometimes we have people just assume that because we're a part of that world we know everyone. Yeah, and they're like I also don't know anyone I'm so bad with knowing people like in the industry. So yeah someone will bring someone up and I'm like, uh-huh Like I know a lot of times people just assume like they were talking about Nannies or something. Yeah, they're like, oh, I'm sure you know plenty of Nannies from all your super famous friends like Closest friends are definitely very famous. Well, and you guys are so down to earth to like I don't know what to expect,

but like we ate lunch between filming our podcast and you like took my plate for me, which I was just like, you need to take my plate for me. Like I can like put it in the dishwasher, but I don't know, you just, it wasn't like you had this whole, you know, team of people at your house like,

here let me clean this floor and do this for you. Like, yeah. I use eyes. I'm good, that's a girl today. Yeah, she is. She is. She loves to clean. Yeah, that's a great host.

Well, it was an honor to have you guys in the podcast. Yes, yes, thank you guys. Definitely go check out Lemons by Tay or the Squeeze, the podcast that Taylor Lottener and Tay Lottener have together. Love the podcast. You guys should definitely go check that out. And you can also find them on Instagram It's very close to talk now

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