The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - The LaBrant Family on Having Kids Young, Family Vlogging & Dealing with Hate

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

We went and visited Savannah & Cole LaBrant and had them join us on the podcast! We talked about our shared experiences of getting married young, the realities of family vlogging and past mistakes made on social media. Make sure to rate our podcast and leave a review if you can, it really helps us out!

Family vlogging, it's kinda got like a bad term for sure. Yeah, but I am convinced that there's so much more good that Canon will come from it. That was a little embarrassing, he was 19. Like I just so badly wanted him to turn 20 already. For me, I'm just like, I'm getting a hot older lady. You couldn't even legally drink when you were married. Nope, nope.

I gave it attention in the beginning, like the negative things. Once I got over that hump realizing like they don't know me, I kind of just keep it out of my head. I just don't want to hear it. People started tagging guys like crazy. Did nobody saw that? Yeah. And now we're at Matt's.

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but just wanna let you know, leave a review. We'd really appreciate it. Now, back to the episode. What's up dudes? And welcome back to the unplanned podcast. I always wanna do like some like burr-purr. I'm gonna do some interviews. It's just Berks chirping and silence.

And it's so peaceful out here. You guys, I am so stoked we've got Cole and Savannah LeBrant here with us today. Hello. We actually wrote an intro for you guys, which is like very rare. Wow. We're very unplanned people, but here I wrote this.

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We're trying to step up our game. We're trying to step up our game. We're trying to step up our game. We're trying to step up our game. We're trying to step up our game. We're trying to step up brand are two of the most successful family creators with 13.1 million YouTube subscribers 52.3 million on TikTok and 12.1 on Instagram. They helped pioneer the family creator space their their challenges viral trends pranks vlogs and Q&A videos They not reside in national Tennessee with their four children I had no idea about those numbers so you could be making that out there. Dude, no, I just, I just, I did some research for this one. Yeah, I'm very stoked.

We combined your TikTok following and your Instagram following. That's like, that's crazy, you guys. Like, 52.3 or whatever it was combined on TikTok, that's insane. That's, to be fair, a lot of that was musically. Really? A lot of that was musically. Yeah, because musically was before TikTok. Really? Yeah. So you guys built up, following is on musically before like YouTube or any of that was musically. A lot of that was musically. Yeah, because musically was before TikTok. Really?

Yeah. So you guys built up followings on musically before YouTube or any of that. Yeah. So they did one of the original kind of creators on what was TikTok musically. It was just her and Ed making silly cute videos. Okay.

And a lot of viners went from vying to musically. Really? Yeah. Did a vying evolve musically? Or was musically a whole different app? It was a different vying. But it was a short form abs. You know vine was six seconds And I thought musically he was like kind of the next abago vine sign Oh, musically is happening and yeah short flow, you know form and that kind of thing that is crazy

So Savannah that's where you got your start was musically that was it Yep, and did you make really musically video? Did you make videos with your daughter? Everly is that kind of how you start off? Okay, I'm just for fun We were just having fun all musically and it just happened Wow, and then how how over you when you were doing that I was 22 Wow, okay, right? That's not right. I think that's right math 22 and Cole you started on vine right? Yeah, okay

It's funny because I'm 26 now, which just kind of brought back like a 10 year anniversary, because I was 16 and I never Vine started. Whoa. So I was like, man, do you want to make videos now for 10 years, it's, you know, kind of feels like, you know, a good portion of my life. Yeah. So yeah, I started on Vine, not too far from here.

So they're Alabama, now that we're in Tennessee, 10 years ago. That's crazy. How are you guys liking Tennessee? We love it. We love it. Yeah, it's great actually it's terrible don't move here Everybody's still moving here the traffic's building up Everyone moving from California to Tennessee. They're like more California's going to the traffic Yeah, hopefully

Yeah, I think you DM me when I post this in my story a couple of months ago What do they say like Californians are not welcome here? No, yeah, we I've seen bumper stickers actually I think you DM me when I post this in my story a couple of months ago. It was a don't California my Arizona Yeah, it's happening. Yeah, and now and now you guys are here in Nashville That's crazy. The southern hospitality is real you guys like yeah, people are so nice here It's actually yeah, we were at brunch. This was actually a Memphis which I feel like even more feels more southern than that Is it more south? What's my geography like? Yeah, Memphis almost feels more southern than that. Memphis is like right there in the and I like the cusp of like several things. So this is probably got like a

lot on it. Okay, yeah, we were at brunch and Griffin, we had Griffin with us in these two, we older ladies were right behind us and they were like, if I was at home at a lick my plate, they're like talking about how much they like the food and they came over and talked just like 10 minutes and were like, you, this doesn't happen anywhere. Yeah, so everyone's very friendly, like, overly friendly, it's pretty cool. You know what, you said, yeah, we,

I, and, cause I don't wanna make like California sound bad or California sound bad, cause we had a great community. We had so many loving people around us, but I do feel like, for the most part, a lot of people out in California are on their hustle. They're on their grind. They're trying to make something happen.

Plus, it's faster pay. So everyone's just going in the next thing. You're going. I expect a lot of people are nice to you for motive, maybe. And you also forget that people are nice here for no reason. And that people can be nice for no reason. It's like, oh, it's almost like, wait, what do they want for me? Or like what, you know, but it's like everyone's just nice,

just cuz. Or like they'll stop and talk to you for an hour, just cuz me? Or like what, you know, but it's like everyone's just nice, just cuz. Or like they'll stop and talk to you for an hour, just cuz they got nowhere to be, you know? It's awesome. And it's like, yeah, it's, I love that. I love that too, because I love meeting strangers. Like I just love to know people's story. Our Uber on the way here, he was just like chatting away

with the whole life story of every Uber. And the first and not a flight. Such a nice guy, he played semi-pro football and you still live in Arkansas and lived in Kansas City for a little bit. My brother lived in Kansas City, go chiefs. So like, I don't know. It's just, I just love meeting random people.

And I love that about the South. And everyone has a lot more in common than like, you might think when you really get to know everyone's story. Yeah. You guys, this is actually funny that I'm saying this right now. You guys are probably part of the reason why we started, we originally started a YouTube channel four years ago. And when Abby, yeah, when Abby and I started dating,

gosh, we're coming up on seven years, I think it was not too long when Abby found your videos on YouTube of you guys like dating and like- You guys started dating at like the same time. So I was like super interested with you guys then. Yeah, you guys were dating a long distance, we were dating a long distance,

and we're just like, whoa, this is like a couple in the same stage of life that we're in. Wow. Well, I feel like you didn't watch the videos at first. No, no, you, I don't know if I ever, honestly, I don't know if I ever watch the videos, but you watched them and I was like,

I definitely showed them your wedding video though. And then that's when Matt was like, wait, people are making YouTube videos, like couples. And it's their job, like this, this sounds so fun, because like I grew up making videos all the time for every school project. Yeah. Every single presentation, I would like convince my teachers to let me do a video instead

because I just love making videos. I thought it was so much fun. And so I was like, Abby, we gotta try this. And so it like, part of the reason that we started YouTube is because we knew who you guys were. We're like, this is so cool. We started like three years later though. Yeah. So we so honored.

We so honored. Yeah. But like, I can't believe you guys, you guys have an age gap, right? Like cool. When you guys started dating, you were dating an older woman or you're still with an older woman. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

What's that age gap? So she's three and a half years older than me. So right now we're in that technically four-year age gap where she recently turned 30, I'm 26. Whoa. So yeah, so I'll be 27 years in. I don't like this age gap right here. Yeah, it's like I'm 47 already.

Yeah, so she was 23 or 26, so yeah, whenever we met, I was 19 and she was 23. That's crazy. Yeah, really not that many, that's not that. Well, I know, but especially when you're younger, you're not 19 or 23. Yeah, I know, but especially when you're younger, it's not like you're 23. Yeah, I was 23 with a kid. It was like a little embarrassing being like,

well, how old's your boyfriend? I'd be like, 19. 19, 19, 19. 19, 20. He turns 20 in like a week. I just wanted him to turn 20 so bad. That's so funny. And when you guys got married, what was the, like,

how old were you then? I mean, I was a year later, so I was. I was 20 and she was 24. Yep. So you couldn't even legally drink when you were got married, what was the, like how old were you then? I mean, I was a year later, so I was, I was 20 and she was 24. Yep. So you couldn't even legally drink when you were married. Nope, that's what I was. That's what I was. Because we got married at a winery.

So we actually, we wanted to have a dry wedding for a number of reasons. Yeah. But because you got married at a winery, they like, you can only marry here if we can sort of wine. Yeah. But yeah, I couldn't even drink it. Yeah, they put some fun in our glasses.

I thought that for sure they'd give us wine. Like, yeah, no, we like cheers and I was like, that was the most fun. Yeah, it was, it was good wine. I think that it was the best wine I've ever had. I don't know, yeah. I know more of that. Yeah, and I was like, I was kind of like,

I just turned 21, so I was like, dang it, I was hoping I could get some champagne on my wedding. No, you got it. But like, when you guys were dating, yeah, Savannah, you had ever Lee, how old was Everly at the time when you guys were dating? Three. Wow. And Cole, you're 19, you just finished high school.

Like what was it about Savannah where you're like, you know what? I'm gonna, I wanna date this girl who's four years older than me, already has a kid. That's just like, that's unique for a lot of young guys. Yeah, you had to grow up, like, immature kid. Like that's just like, that's unique for a lot of young guys. Yeah, you had to grow up like immature fast. Yeah. Yeah, what was it, honey? Oh, was it.

Um, I knew I wanted to get married young. So it wasn't like I was, you know, and I'm not saying that there's like a right or wrong answer of this because I've talked to people who've gotten married at 40 and want to start a family then. And like myself got married at 20. So I got one thing I like, I'm'm Tony, like my answer is the right way, but I know that it worked out for me

in a sense of like I wanna get married young, I wanted to have a family. I wasn't like looking to be single in my 20s and party and travel and live it up, like I was ready to get married and do that with my person. So that's kind of like the marriage part of it. And then as far as having a kid so young,

my younger sister's only three years older than Evily. So, like Evily, 10, my younger sister's 13. So, like, at the time at night, I think that would have made my sister six. So, Lily, shout out to you. And I got a younger brother, Tate, who's also only 16 right now. So, then six years older.

So, I'm coming from a big family. Lots of kids are running around all the time. So, it wasn't like I wasn't like used to like a little kid being around, or like it wasn't like I wasn't like used to like a little kid being around or like it wasn't like, man, what's this? This is weird. I mean, I had a little sister who was, you know, burping and farting on me all the time anyway.

So it's like, you know, it wasn't anything different. So, and everybody was such a cool, fun kid. My family's loud and very outgoing. So maybe it would have been different if she was like, shy. Really shy and it was like hard for me to get to know her. But I hit it off with early just like the way we asked Savannah. Hey, I'm Emily.

Wanna come play with me and my friend? Yeah, my God. And every year, yeah, he was playing. Like it's like the simplicity of just like, you know, hanging out with a beautiful lady and playing with a really fun kid. Yeah. It's not like it's baggage.

I'm sure people I'm sure would like to think in that situation. It was a bonus, you know? And did you know the whole time that Savannah already had a kid or was it like, it was a remote where you're like, oh, by the way, like I have a daughter. Like when, how did that come about? So we met in person at the Grove in LA.

So if you live in LA, I'm sure you're familiar with the Grove. It's like a really popular outdoor mall. And at the Grove, there's like this outdoor playing area in the grass. But, and I'll keep this a lot shorter. But the long story of how we met was I, since Savannah, a DM on musically, about three months before we met.

Because I was transitioning from Vine to musically. And I was trying to reach out to family, friendly creators. Because I had always made clean content. So I tried to find creators on the platform who were also making clean content. I'd be like, hey, would you like to, on Vine, there's a thing called Revine for Revine, where I would reshare someone's post if they did mine. And the original creators, I'm musically did a very similar thing. Would they would share your posts in exchange for another post? It was a weird platform.

You post like five times a day. Yeah, but I can hear carry quick, no edits. Just like, hey, film this, upload it. Film this, upload it. It was like the Oreo put, I'm getting way to an adapter. I reached out to her to like, re-share each other stuff just because that's just what you know. Yeah.

I sit in her DMs and hey, do you wanna do that? Because I didn't know anything about music that I just transitioned over. I had no idea how to check it. I'm not just saying this. I had no idea how to check my DMs back. Really? She ended up seeing it.

And I gave them my number. Reach out to me. Oh. But I never saw it. But because I sent her a message, she didn't know how I was from Vine, happened to look at my musicals. I thought he was the funniest person I've ever seen

in my whole life. I have me and my sister. And like, I wasn't even like, oh, he's so cute. It was just me and my sister sat there watching his videos like dying laughing because we thought he was so funny. So I was like, like, yes. The videos are not funny. Do you not go back and watch those?

They were funny for back then I guess Not now. All of you said I feel like this is like a god moment in our life Yeah, there are moments in my life I feel like this is like definitely a god moment I just knew that like because I had sent that message she had then become familiar with me watching videos I didn't have vine so I had no idea about. She had then become familiar with me, what I did was. I didn't have vine, so I had no idea about him. So, yeah. Three months later, we hadn't talked at all.

Didn't even know that she sent me a message back. I'm at the Groven LA, just happened to be there. I live in Alabama, small town Alabama. Just happened to be at the Groven LA, took a summer trip with my buddy, who's outside, I haven't watched all the kids. Cause he was my college roommate. We just decided to go to California the very first time.

It's our last week in California. I looked up what to do near me. The Grove pops up. Go to the Grove. It's a big outdoor mall. It's a satirate. And I never went to the Grove. So it's the whole thing of us meeting this big outdoor mall.

I happen to see here on the grass part. And I'm telling my buddy don't see it. Because we hadn't seen like any famous people or any social media people or anything. So I think that's the girl from musically. I'm like, oh yeah, look, look, there's her kid playing in the grass. We thought, you know, I thought,

I didn't know anything about her. I didn't know if she was married or what. I'm like, I'm not gonna go talk to a single mom, 19 year old boy, be like, hey, I watch your videos. So we just walked away. She happened to see us walking away, recognize me, sitting her sister on the way out, saying, hey, if you happen to see them,

have them come say, hi. On the way out of Barnes & Noble, you happen to see them, how come I'm saying, hi. On the way out of Barnes & Noble, we're in Barnes & Noble for like 30 minutes, meet up with her sister, her sister said, go say hi, so we did, and then we got married. Wow. That was a short, that was a short,

that was a short version. That was a short version. Did I even, what question was that? I don't know, that was a good story. That was a good story. How we met is my favorite story. How we met. I told, I told, and I you remember. That was a good story. That was a good story. How we met is my favorite story. How we met.

I told you about that all day. I told him, and I'm sure you guys, someone asked you, maybe he's love. Yeah. Going in and I go, I get you, we go. Yeah, but like. Matt doesn't remember when he first met me, so. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I don't remember the first time we met, but I remember like when we started like flirting and stuff. Like in each other. Yeah, I think. Yeah. But I mean, was there ever any awkward situations that came up because of the age gap? Like four years, I know when, like now, as you're getting older, like four years isn't crazy, especially like if, when you guys are like 40 and 44, that's not weird at all. But when you're 19 and 23, like I can see how that could be, you know, maybe people say

weird things or are you feeling embarrassed? Like was there ever anything funny that came out of it? I don't know. I don't know. The only thing that comes out of my mind is like two days after we met, we're still in California. So we hung out like every, that last week, we hung out like every day.

And like one of the nights you invited me out to that kind of bar thing that your friend was like a, her friends are drumming on like a small band at a bar. Yeah. And she invited me out and I'm 19 at the time. So I don't think I'd ever been in a bar, right? Oh yeah. And she's 23 and for the record, we will have some drinks together.

We're not like anti-acohol. So she's in there, I think you have a drink. And I'm like, oh my gosh. I can't even get in, I got 19. I think your mom goes like, the hang me a drink. It was a restaurant. It was a restaurant.

But I think your mom goes, the hang me a drink. And I was like, I can't drink this. So that's what I'm going to think of. I can even think of that's kind of funny looking back on. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. I was just like, like I tried to pretend like I wasn't, but I was a little embarrassed

that he was 19. Like I just so badly wanted him to turn 20 already. Not that I made a big difference, but just him still being. I was 19 when I had Everly. So for me, I was like, I don't know, yeah, the age gap. Yeah, probably more embarrassing for her for sure. For me, I was like, I'm a hot older lady. It's, oh, yeah, she's 23. Where your buddy is like, you're dating a mom?

Like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. People don't believe me for a little bit, because she's my first girlfriend. So I wasn't like the kind of guy, like, it just it sound too believable that I went out to California and actually found this beautiful woman that I'm not dating. Much less a mom and the whole situation.

So, yeah, it was kind of like disbelief, but also, I did get some fist bumps for sure. That's so cool. Well, now I feel like in our culture, I mean, it sounds so stupid, but guys will be like, I love moms or like. Yeah, that's actually, yeah. And I, there's like ten years later, I would have gotten a lot more totally validation. Because there's like, I've seen teachers that are like, I love hot

mom. That's actually really uncomfortable. I would have. But seven years ago, one time was cool. Yeah, I thought it was cool. Oh my my gosh. And man, I'm like losing my train of thought. But yeah, you and like, and then right away, when you guys got married, then you, yeah, immediately upon getting married, you're like, you're like, you're a stepdad. You're in. How did you guys navigate that?

Like also, how did you navigate? I don't wanna get it. Also, was it weird making like, social media content before you were married? Because you're like, what if we break up? Like, I know. I know. Is you're like, what if we break up? Like, I know. I know. Yeah, yeah, was that scary?

Um, okay. No one's ever asked us that before. I was never scared, but I was like so in love with him. I like never even thought about. I mean, I still am so happy about it. What? You know, in that like Google August age, I was so like, we're never breaking up.

Yeah. I don't know. It's weird, you know, it's every relationship is different. Yeah. And like I just mentioned, what works for somebody don't know. It's weird. Is every relationship different? Yeah. And like I just mentioned, what works for somebody doesn't work for others. Yeah. But like, we were, we just knew.

I think I knew so fast too, because I would have never, like, like, yeah, they met in the beginning when we weren't dating yet, but I would have never like brought everly into the situation. If, unless I knew he was like forever for me, that was just big for me to introduce her to somebody, you know? And so that, I feel like for me was like my for sure. So the social media stuff was just like,

all this happening. Yeah, because we've only done it since we've been married. So I was like, I wondered if it was different, but like we were the same way. Like as soon as we started dating, yeah, we, like was in the first month, we've talked about this before. We were like, we're gonna get married.

We were in high school. We're like, we're gonna get married and we're like school we're like we're getting married and we're like gonna go to college together and do everything. Yeah I was I was writing the Abbey love songs like we said I we said I love you in the first month we face time like we were deep in that state yeah and it was long distance so I feel like that made us even more crazy for each other because you're just like oh I just want to be around you. Yeah when you're part yeah yeah yeah yeah because then you're like you missed long distance right? I know we're like can we go do long distance for like just a little bit? Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah part, yeah, yeah, yeah, cause then you miss long distance, right? I know we're like, can we go do long distance for like just a little bit of face time?

Yeah, it's like every couple weeks is like Christmas morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go for it. Yeah, let's go for it. I feel like yours was like extra exciting because you had to fly. Yeah. Oh yeah. Cause like we could just like drive over. Yeah, we were far. Either way, long distance. Long distance, especially. They say what distance makes a heart and a heart and a heart and a it's very true. Cause I didn't know what it felt like to miss somebody. Like, sure you miss it, but it's like so different. Yeah. For people that do long distance for like, see,

I've got periods of time, like deployments, I'm like. I can't imagine. Oh my god, I can't imagine. That would be so hard. I can imagine so hard. That would be so hard. I can imagine so hard. We pretend like we really did long distance,

but like we didn't go more than like two and a half. We just have to do more. No, exactly. We did. There's such a spectrum. Yeah, I'm expecting this. But there's a family we nannyed for. And her husband had been deployed twice. She had a baby wall.

Their daughter wall, he was away one time. And I cannot even imagine going through that. So I'm like, yeah. That's long distance. Yeah, that's hard. We can drive over to our parents' houses. I think the to deal with the pain, they both just worked out a ton

because like, they both came, when he came back from the point, he was so jacked. Like, he was so, so jacked. Like, it's like a honeymoon all over again. I know. They were both very, very in shape. I feel like they just took out all their like,

just all the frustration of being apart. Just in the gym. Just three of these at the gym and said, yeah, how do you do it in the old school? But now you the gym and said, you know how do you do it? But now you guys, you know, you've been, you got married, you now have four kids, like that is, that is crazy. Four kids, how is that, is that the right number?

Do you think you're gonna go for five? Like, talk to me about that. Where, oh, were you going for five? Talk to me about that. Savannah, yeah, Savannah controls the family unit here. I want one more. Is this a fun to be fair though? I warned him when we first met that he said I have sick. This was our conversation. I have five siblings. Sorry. He has five siblings.

Five siblings. He's one of six and I was like, well, I want a family of six. Well, not a family. I want six. Yeah. I thought you said you wanted a family. I said I want six. He said that. That sounds so much fun. And he was like, oh, that's cool. Like he totally knew that about me. From meeting to dating to married, how long did that take? How long was that process?

What process? Like, I mean, how much time did you guys get married? To date and then. Oh, oh, meeting to, like were you guys engaged a year? Were you engaged a month? I wanna only hear if Savannah can answer this because I like the dates back then.

He knows every day. That's his vanity. Okay, meeting. To dating, I would say what a month? I can't answer this because I like the date. He knows everything. Let's do the vanity. Okay, meeting. When we meet this month. To dating, I would say what, a month. That's really nice. Yeah, we started like for real dating,

or maybe two weeks. Yeah. Something like that. And then we got engaged like five months after that. Whoa. No way. So we met end of June, started dating middle July, like two and a half weeks later.

Engaged January. Whoa. And then married the following July. So yeah. Whoa. We met in a year later. A year later, like a year. A year later, like a year. Holy fuck.

Yeah, it was really fast. Thanks. So you guys were just like on the peak of like, infatuation, right? Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's like, I can't then it's just like, It sounds like I mean, like, I don't advise this. Like I said, I'm not saying like, hey,

I get what I come to, but like, and even like we're talking back with introducing people on social media, like I've had family members or people contact us being like, hey, I'm in love with my boyfriend, like whatever it is, we wanna start a couple of things and then I've seen it not work out and then it's awkward. And I was like, okay, now you break up. So I definitely strongly advise like knowing

that your person's the one before getting into something with them because well it's hard to be waiting till marriage right because where you guys waiting till marriage yeah that we did too if you want to marriage use the yaga man the hardest thing well we're engaged for 13 months bro 13 months and we're dating for two years before that yeah so we're talking over three years

oh like probably the hardest thing that we've ever done people joke like if you're waiting till marriage like that oh I think I'm married just joke like if you're waiting to marriage like I think I'm just you know they're probably waiting to marriage. They just get married It is I mean it plays into it. It does but I mean if you know you know, yeah, and there's like What's the way yeah, yeah, you know, so yep, obviously there can you know I think you have legitimate reasons to wait. Yeah, then wait And she's gonna be getting she wanted six kids. I knew I'm like, okay I'm starting to do the math in my head.

I'm like, we already have everyone who's three, so we want five more. So if I get married now, it's like planning out, we need to get married by July. Yeah, if you want to get a family. Yeah, let's start now. Then we gotta go. That's definitely, I feel like it's always the wife

that wants more kids, but we have to go through pregnancy, but I'm trying to do a different one. I must be the hormones, right? She gets pretty sick. Yeah, I get really sick. The first like 17 weeks, and then I just want to. 17? Yeah.

The first 17 weeks, and then I'm good. Really sick, but then I just like forget that. Yeah, really. I want another baby. You forget about it. So I just want to know what other baby is. I like four. This is kind of the first time I don't have baby fever.

Like, I still love baby so much whenever I see one, but I'm not like right now if I see a baby, like, and I still have a baby, so it's funny. funny yeah but I feel like around now is when I usually get pregnant just that's how if we space out the last three and so right now I'm like super good I don't want one right now so we're gonna wait a little bit yeah right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Oh my gosh. Was that a challenge, you guys, you guys, obviously, madly in love. We went through that too. Was there any points for you? This is so hard.

Let's just alope. No, I think because our time frame was already so short. You're so vast. Yeah, we had the date. We could be patient. We knew. And obviously, you know, planning out a wedding. It takes a little bit.

You know, so. Yeah. I wanted to ask, were you like still infatuated when you got married? Because we definitely weren't infatuated for like the first year of the together. But like, where do you feel you're still in the like, they can do no wrong stage by that point?

Or like, I don't know. Definitely when are we first got married, you know? Yeah. Because we, again, we had just met a year ago. Yeah. So like ours was definitely like honeymoon stage for probably the first couple years of marriage. Yeah.

And then obviously you guys know, Okay, I feel like we have this of weird dynamic though, like we figured out the kid thing first, you know? So I feel like a lot of couples like 99% of my opinion. But most, yeah, most couples, I feel like their fights come once they have the kid and they're figuring out parenting together.

We kind of figured that out while we were dating. You know, so we figured out like what works for us parenting-wise, I don't know if that makes sense. But, it makes sense. You know, it was less fights in the beginning once we started having more kids. Like we already had that figure out. I don't know.

That's true, because I feel like, I mean, that's just a statistic. Like the marriage is like the first year of having a kid is like the hardest on a marriage. Yeah. Honestly, it's been hard. It's like, it's freaking hard, because it's just like such a change in everything.

And you have, you love your kid so, so much, but they require a lot of attention. And like, that's less attention on your spouse, because like, they're just very needy. And they, or like sometimes Matt, when you come, or like, you come require a lot of attention. Yeah, and like that's less attention on your spouse because like they're just very Needy and they are like sometimes Matt when you come or like you come into a room and you see Griffin first You're like my body give all your love to girlfriend. I'm just in there. I'm like You know so much. Yeah, and so it's yeah, I mean it's just an interesting If it makes you feel better.

He goes to four people before he comes to me. So sometimes she's first. It just depends on the situation, right? Yeah. What was your first fight about? Do you guys remember? What was our first fight? Probably Averly, something to do with Averly,

like this parenting. Probably so. I would say that the hardest thing that when it comes to the whole kid spectrum is like discipline, right? And we've talked about this before. We're very, very fortunate that we see eye to eye on probably like 98% of things. You know, whenever it comes to the discipline piece

because you're raised a certain way, you're raised a certain way, you were disciplined, certain things and some things work, some didn't say like, okay, that's how I'm gonna raise my kid. But then you gotta be a team, right? So like if he doesn't like, you don't like, or vice versa, so there's been things that I've done, that's the way it is like, hey, let's maybe not do that again,

right? Or vice versa, and that's where it can get tricky. So I think you're- It's the same for me. Yeah, so I think- Helping me with things. Right, and we have to be a team. There's no way that, you know, if I ever get on the boat

of I'm raising my kids, so I wanna raise them, or vice versa, that is not gonna work. I mean, you're just gonna fall apart. Our kids, therefore, are gonna suffer. We gotta figure out how we're gonna be a team. What's gonna work? And if I gotta sacrifice things on my end,

that I think are gonna work, in order for us to be a team, it's worth it. You know, so I think that's been a piece of, I think we're pretty good at now, but it wasn't right away. Yeah. You know, it takes time. You guys just haven't,

I'm not even one year old, so it takes time. We haven't even disciplined him yet. Yeah, he's not even doing anything bad. He's not doing anything wrong yet. So, yeah, totally. But that's pretty true. You had his variance. Oh yeah, yeah, totally.

Like this is good. I'm just like, I'm like deep in thought right now too. I like it. Yeah. It's good comedy. And we didn't figure out on our own. There's something that we have, you know, we have so many friends in our life. We have some of our best friends have seven kids

and their oldest kids 14. So like there are a season of life ahead of us, have teenagers. So, you know, we'll go to them and like, man, I'm struggling. So they and I think this, you know, and obviously there's like private conversations. These are like, you know, things like heart Things like Hart felt like, she has best friends.

I'm like, talk to them about anything and everything. Like having a community of people around you that you can ask. So it was like I was finding a marriage that you guys want for your future, like for your mentors, so look up to. It's really important. I feel like we're probably going way off topic.

But that was really big for us is finding someone that we look up to, that we love their marriage and we love their kids and how they discipline and what they're doing. Yeah, like confiding in them because that we can trust them whenever we find. I'm fine. Find people also be like, Hey, you guys have permission to as you see things in our life and how we're raising our kids are. Call us out. Call us out. You know, like we love you, we respect you. Yeah. You know, obviously like all the people on the internet, they don't know us. And because we don't know them and love them,

as much as we would like our mentors and stuff, we aren't gonna take the praise and we aren't gonna take the hate, the same way that we would from somebody that we look up to and respect. You know what I mean? So that's something that I've been just so blessed by, is I don't wanna say always,

but God's put a community of people in our life who have called us out when need to and Encourages when we need it. Yeah, you know quick interruption. We want to read a review from one of our sweet listeners This is from at Jenna's C233-1 on Instagram. So thank you Jenna Five stars. It says you all saved me. I had a rough first year of college and I would come home almost every weekend Your podcast helped me in my rides home and helped me know there's still so much good in this world. Being in my first relationship and feeling like he is the one and seeing your first relationship that lasted makes me feel so much better. Thank you guys so much for helping me keep going.

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Yeah. Thanks guys. Back to the episode. Something you kind of touched on, Kohl, is like, time out how you have like people in your personal life that, like, your community that kind of talks about, like, speaks into your parenting life and your family life. Yeah. And I wonder what that's like comparing that versus, like, you have the whole internet, right? family life. Yeah. And I wonder what that's like comparing that versus like,

you have the whole internet, right? All right. Yeah. Everyone, we get it to like commenting about our parenting, how raising your kids, especially like having the family platform that you guys have, being like the biggest that they're pretty much are like, what's that like balancing the online feedback versus like real life feedback?

Yeah. If that makes any sense. I feel like I gave it attention in the beginning, and I let it get to me, like the negative things. Yeah. If that makes any sense. I feel like I gave it attention in the beginning and I let it get to me like the negative things. Yeah. And then once I realized that, I was say this correctly, I feel like I don't once I got over that hump of not caring and realizing like they don't know me, I really care about like what my family thinks about me, what my friends think about me, what people at church, like the bigger picture here, then I gave it zero attention.

So I don't look at anything. And I'm very just like, I kind of just keep it out of my head. And if anyone tries to like, if like my mom or anybody will try to be like, so this is happening out there or whatever, I'm very like, I just don't wanna hear it. Because I feel like that will never, I don't know, I just, I'm big at. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so and it can be alarming. And it can almost make you make you second guess in yourself or whatever it is.

And maybe it's good. You know, maybe it's healthy. But also, that's where you go to people who know you, who know your life, who spend so much time with you, who you hang out with. And so that's why I say don't let the praise or the hate. Because obviously, even on bike, you know, you're posting a bunch of videos

and you're getting all this, you're awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, we yeah, I'm getting we have topic. But like, don't let that phrase make you think you're like awesome. Totally. Well, maybe you are on this awesome, and also know what the hate make you think you suck. Yeah, maybe you don't. Like, like I remember when we first started family vlogging, we just posted happy moments. Seeing each other, they're really, and I don't want to make this sound bad.

There wasn't, there wasn't, there wasn't really sad moments. We just started dating. We're so in love. We're going to Disneyland. It's just fun things, we're going to play a family game. It's fun things. And we got a lot of nice comments. And then the first hate comments that we got was,

oh, you guys think you're so perfect. You guys never post anything negative. You never post anything real. You guys only post the happy stuff. You're so fake out of your, I don't know. You guys probably don't even like each other. Yeah, and I remember think like oh shoot Maybe we should post like some bad things. Yeah, not not not to get attention

Not next point, but it's like the show that we're real Yeah, I'm like wait and I forget what what it was But then like you know you start posting some real life things and then it's like And then you get trouble how can you explain the bad city day? So it's like yeah, you know, but and so you realize that there's no winning these people over? No, there's not. There's no justifying. They don't care about your answer really.

So that's why you only care about the opinions of the ones who know you and love you. It's so hard to keep that balance because we've had the same thing. We used to make super, super positive content. People are like, oh, this is, there's no such thing as a perfect couple. We're not perfect at all.

But awesome, we don't want to put out like like just depressing content, you know like if we if we show all the like the sad stuff And it's like this isn't fun, but then oh my gosh But like show it we try to but we try to show both of we try to show the good in the bad So people are like like I can relate to that like that's that's me because we are just like we are just people Okay, like the biggest creators on social media. Like that's me. Cause we are just like, we are just people, okay. Like the biggest creators on social media, they are still people. We're all so-

We're all gonna make mistakes. Exactly, everybody, everybody in life does. So, I mean, it's just crazy too, cause you guys have gotten to a certain size on social media where I feel like there's news articles made about you guys. Like we've had a little bit of that, but like not nearly as much as That's a very good thing.

How do you navigate that when news is, I don't know, making articles that you have like no control over? Fortunately it doesn't happen much. Yeah. Obviously if you look up our names, your guys' names, you know, people who are on social media, there is gonna be stuff out there, but it doesn't happen much.

So I think that's one area of it is knowing like, we aren't near as big as other people like I couldn't imagine being and I hate the word famous like you know like we never throw that word around Yeah, like I couldn't imagine being like as famous as certain people who it's just constant You know like we don't have paparazzi followers around or what you know It's we live extremely normal lives So I think that's a big thing and also knowing that it's very seasonal so like whenever Good or bad you

you can have like a seasonal period of like a lot of encouragement and blessing and then if a bad thing happens it can be a very seasonal short period of hate and it's gonna go away because the people who love hate and the people who love um drama and all that stuff they're they're like fireflies and they're gonna go from one thing to the next they're never gonna say focus on this because eventually we're very normal family and we're gonna go from one thing to the next. They're never gonna stay focused on this because eventually we're a very normal family and we're just gonna have very boring, normal, not dramatic moments. And they just wanna go to what the next dramatic moment is.

So it's like, we learned that over the years, I was like boom, the LeBrennt Fam, oh, here, oh, here, oh, here, oh, two years later, oh, back to the LeBrennt family, oh, here, here, here, so like, it's gonna go away. And that whatever, whatever it is, what happened inside of our house is always way more important than whatever anybody's saying. Yeah. And how do you maintain, like, I know for us, like we've had to, constantly reevaluate our boundaries with social media, like, even like after having your friend, like how, like we film at this time, or we don't film at this time or and

Not that we definitely are still like trying to find that but like how do you maintain your private life like with on such a public Platform, I mean there are so many things that we keep off the internet. Yeah, you know, we choose to share What we feel is Very normal and fine and people can relate to and we have a good time. But I mean, we've slowed down a lot over the years on our family content. I'll tell you that we post maybe once every week or once every two weeks, we try to post on Saturdays,

we didn't post yesterday and it's like we just didn't have anything. So we're not gonna force anything. Yeah. So that's kind of like where we're at now. We were in a season of like, I don't wanna say grind because it didn't feel like a grind, we're having so much fun. It was just me, you and Everly. And it's like, like, I don't want to say grind because it didn't feel like a grind. We're having so much fun. It was just me, you and Everly. And it's like,

oh, we're gonna go to Disneyland. It's a lot easier. It's so easy. And then Waterpark and then play. Yeah. Pie face. You know, it's like, it's just like it's so easy. So it was easy to pop out stuff. But as we, as our fame was gotten bigger and the, you know, everyone's gotten older and she's in dance and school and whatever it is. It's just kind of been an obvious answer like, okay, let's slow down. And then it's also kind of obvious what to post and what not to post. And sometimes you cross that line and you make a mistake and you're called out for it. And maybe rightfully so, and you learn from it. Something we want to ask you is like, what is your why for creating content? And like, has it changed over time? like from the beginning to like yeah beyond.

Ooh, you've answered this one because you're the video guy. You started the videos. The why do we make videos? Yeah. Yeah, I always like to go back to like the beginning, you know, because like that's when I started and like kind of as Matt and I were talking earlier. I think even all podcast was like I made videos as like a little kid with like my family's old camcorder We'd make out camping and like we'd have pot pans making like sound effects and we just love making videos and and obviously looking back They're so dumb where you had like the old Macbook face filter thing to make in videos there. So yeah

It was just fun to make so then whenever you're 16 and this new app comes out vine and everyone's on any making videos there. So videos, it was just fun to make. So then whenever you're 16 and this new app comes out of mine and everyone's on it, making videos, kind of like every little kid now is making a TikTok video. That's how mine was 10 years ago. So just not making videos. Yeah. And I was working, you know,

I was living in small town Alabama, 16 years old, I was working at an ice cream shop, making minimum wage, which was 7, 25 an hour. And I remember making these videos and we start getting a following, but you can make money from it or anything. You're just having fun. I would have made videos if it didn't give any money.

So people say it's all for the money, but we love it. And I remember our first brand deal came in and it was me and two of my buddies. We had a group, but the brand deal came in for like a thousand bucks. And we split it three ways, obviously. Yeah. Even, you know, you gotta be taxes and not like that stuff.

But I remember seeing like me, three hundred and thirty three bucks. It blew my mind. 7, 25 an hour, how long? I could not believe it. And my parents can't believe it. Yeah. Like, you know, I'm one of six kids, one parent income.

Like how many hours you would have worked at? Yeah, I'm doing the math. So I remember thinking I'm not going to quit my ice cream shop job yet. But if that happens again, I am. Yeah. And it happened again. It took like six months. But it happened again. Six months later, I was like, I'm only making this is what I'm doing.

I'm having so much fun. Yeah. And again, you know, I'm a young single guy made so much stupid videos. I look back on it. I'm just like, aw. But so then obviously, you know, I kept doing it to college. My parents always said it was like, you know, you're 15 minutes of fame, so like, quit everything that you're doing it. Do this, especially back then. I think nowadays there's

enough evidence to prove like this can be steady. You know, 10 years ago, there wasn't. Well, you guys pioneered, like, I want to say the family space, the couple space too. Like, there weren't, when you guys started YouTube, there weren't big couples channels. Were there any people out there that you were thinking, oh, they're doing this, we should do this too. Just engage. Just engage. We're a couple.

I think they got engaged in Mary like six months before each of our engagement. Really? But obviously they didn't have a catch. There's more couples versus family. But I think we literally just started making videos because he was like, let's have these to look back on for a lot of distance. I had a YouTube channel that I was making stupid videos on. Yeah. So a lot of it lived on just a cold.

And I remember you just calling me and being like, this video is doing really good. I pulled up my iPhone and it checked like parking lot. It was like an iPhone like three or something and I pulled out and it, and the checked like parking lot before she you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you.

I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you.

I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you. I mean, I know whenever you first start dating and you're in like couple games, couples games, couples Q&A, couples challenges, it's fun.

Yeah. So I'd say it was fun. Everly loves making videos, being a little kitschy, love making videos. I'll send you off camera if like your friends come over to the house. They like ask if they can make YouTube videos if Rosie's little four-year friends come over.

They're like, hey Cole, can we make YouTube videos? I'm like, that's not how it works, but all of it being said, it's kids love making videos. We've love making videos. It's been a lot of fun. Obviously it's come with hardships and negativity over the years. But the root of it really is just,

we had a lot of fun doing it. We get a lot of family time out of it too. Got a ton of family time. I mean, Savannah being a single mom had this not have worked out. She was in school to be a nurse and would have been a single mom away from her kid. And so the reality of it is given our situation, like I don't know who wouldn't have worked out. She was, you know, in school to be a nurse and would have been a single mom away from her kid. And so, like, you know, the reality of it is, like, given our situation, like, I don't know who wouldn't have done it.

Obviously, we made a lot of mistakes over the years. Like, looking back to, like, the root of it and the why. Yeah. Especially now, knowing that... Well, and I think we just hit that time too, where, like, our kids now want to see their videos from when they were little. Yeah. So, it's cute, like, they have all these home videos basically. We know it was the first this morning from like two years ago.

Like they asked, they're like, can I watch Baby Posey this morning? Like it's cute that they now just have all of these videos. So look back on. And then obviously over the years it's evolved. And you know, go back to like the wife, it's like how it started, it was like it was just fun. Then it evolved, it's like me, like this can financially

be lucrative in a sense of- Now we can help people, and we can share things that we believe in. And things that you stand for. And we are going to go and get to what we've been able to do with our money, but we've been able to do some incredible and credible things. I saw a video you guys did where you were buying people's groceries

at a grocery store. And there's like, one of the people was a single mom, which I thought was really cool, because now that I'm a parent, I have so much respect for single parents. Like I cannot believe that they do that. You were a single parent for where like that's, I have so much respect for you. But like doing that was just, I was like, wow, that's really cool. You guys were able to buy all these people's groceries at a grocery store. Yeah, that was a lot. And there's like dozens of families over the years, and just like you guys are just saying, Jude, right? There's dozens, I mean, even as we've released,

you know, documentaries for things that we believe, and we've gotten to contact with families who are in very unfortunate circumstances. You know, sick kids, whatever it is, can't pay the bills. And there's so many families that I keep up with on a very weekly basis who can't buy groceries, who can't, because neither the parents can work because they have a sick kid.

They have to stay up all night Long with the kid because the kid has seizures and isn't well and it has to say the other parents would say up all day So they swap off and it is just I couldn't imagine that situation So I go back to that a lot of like when we have so many families that we help and Would you ever think that that that we came to help that we aren't gonna post? Yeah, we never posted we're gonna talk about what we know. And if we let the hate at times get to us, or even more so to me, and like convince me

like to stop making videos because of lies, then in turn, there are so many people who will suffer truly because of that. So I'm like, what's the truth here? You know, where's the real and the good? And that way trumps. Mm-hmm. I lie.

I am curious to like being the pioneers of like the couple space and the family space. Does it scare you at all? Like that you're on the forefront? Like, because this is like such an unknown space. Like you don't know, we have no idea like what that'll look like 50 years from now, 100 years from now.

Cause like Hollywood and movies, we can look back at, I don't know, just how everything's played out from the past, but what's that like being pioneers in the space? How do you navigate that? Because it's so new. I think it's interesting, because I don't think I've got that we look at it that way.

And since it's like, it sounds cool what you're saying. And I'm like, you are, you literally find it here. I appreciate it. But I think we just, and I don't wanna sound like fake, overly humble, but we really just live such normal life. Yeah, I really just feel just super nervous. And we go to the park and we, you know, take our kids like a swimming pool and a checky cheese.

Yeah. Yeah, you know, and I mean, we're very fortunate that we have a great marriage and we're trying our best to raise our kids and we're gonna make mistakes, but like, we just want the best for our kids like every parent does. Yeah. And obviously there's certain things about social media that are negative, but I am convinced over the years and from amazing amazing mentors in our life that there's so much more good that can and will come from it.

So much for fruit, you know, even like child actors, there's so many things like child actors having like such a high, unsuccessful rate, but that doesn't have to be the case. It doesn't have to be the case. You know, I think having loving parents involved, who truly want the best for their kids, who are setting aside the proper finances, I think that could be a big one as kids get older

and they realize the money that was stolen from them. We have, we have, we are, and we always will be setting aside. Yeah. So much for our kids. Well, I'm so curious, like, how do you decide how much to set aside for your kids? How do you look at cinema as a framework for like,

oh, this is how much actors get paid and a percentage of production. So then therefore our kids should get paid this. Like, how do you even navigate that, you know? As parents, we love our kids more than anything. Yeah. All that I have is theirs. And I even tell Savannah that I get,

even when we have each kid, their own bank account as well, but whatever is in our bank account is a hundred and a million percent theirs. Well, it's gonna work. So like as we get older, anything that they need that I'm able to help with, obviously, you know, I don't wanna get my kids

to certain amount of money while they're young and dumb, I going to spend on dumb things. But as they get older, it's just kind of those private conversations that you have with ourselves, our mentors, our financial advisors, people who've been in this space. And we're still navigating that. Or almost 10 years old. So like, you know, we're still figuring it out. And hopefully we make good enough decisions. But yeah, that's like, that's super interesting. No, we, I've been talking to our tax guy and like financial planner and like, there's just like, I don't know, there's things that I definitely want to do

to make sure that our kids don't make dumb decisions. Like I've heard horror stories of kids like growing up and then they end up like blowing a ton of money because they're young and dumb. And then, I don't know, I guess I'm sure there's ways that you can make sure once they're a certain age and they can't access that. And that way they don't make a stupid decision when they're young. That's big and total finances.

I don't know. You were in what Dave Ramsey this morning. I was Dave Ramsey, what's he? He does. Wait, really? I was looking at Dave. We got Dave on the pod. No way.

No way. We had no idea. Your kids. I didn looking at Dave Pond. He grabbed Dave on the pod. He stopped right next to him. No way? On accident, we had no idea. Your kids. I knew who he was. I knew who he was. I used to know who he was. When we were dating, and I- But now that you guys just said that,

I'm like, that's that kind of- That's funny. No, because I wanted to learn finances. I was a theater kid. I knew nothing about money. I knew nothing about financial literacy. Yeah. And I just like read Dave Ramsey books.

I read Rich Dad Poor Dad. I'm not sure about to get married, because he's like, we have no money, but I was like, I want to get married. I need to know how this works so that like, we have no money, but I want to get married. I need to know how this works so that we can be independent of our parents. We need to have them on the podcast so we can thank him

that we were able to get married. We should have Dave Ramsey and his wife. What if his wife comes on? That would be epic. I want to bring something up because I think it's kind of funny. What? But it's also kind of awkward. Oh my, I know what you're going to say. I know what you're going to say. It's so kind of awkward. Oh my I know you're gonna say I know you're gonna say say

That's so funny. Oh, we've talked about it a couple So okay, you said you don't like listen to hate or like yeah, do you actually just like not read any comment or anything? Like literally nothing. I don't look at yes. Nope. No, wow good for you. I mean, I'm kind of getting there honestly because For my mental health and also just like the fact that like now that my mom I can't even imagine me and mom before you're like, I'm not talking for this. Like I'm like, that guy is like in the beginning, I feel like I would take a lot of my time being on my phone looking at that stuff.

And I was like, what am I doing here? I'm literally sitting here scrolling through comments for an hour when I could have just been playing with my kid the entire time. So I think it took a lot of growing up for me too of like, K, I'm gonna put my phone down. I'm not gonna worry about what these people are saying because it's just not the truth and they don't know me anyways and My focus isn't just not gonna be there. So I just kind of trained my brain to just seriously not care

And I know a lot of people won't believe me when I say that but I just I just don't I and whenever you read enough stupid things You just kind of get to a point of like, I remember several years ago. People would literally like, the comments started getting to like, and I won't get into that, but it like, all she does is feed her kids popsicles. I was really good at that.

I was like, you got to that. Because we did something really stupid, and it was like four or five years ago, I remember we read a hate comment, again, several years ago, that was like, oh, it was during summer where our kids probably had a popsicle on about every video, right? I don't even rip.

He does popsicles all summer long, you know? They were sugar free. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm getting into that. I don't think they will work sugar free. Maybe they will work, they will work. I don't say, I don't care, right? I really don't care.

But I remember, I read the hate comment. They heard, that's why it made me so mad. Yeah, but I remember the hate comment said, all I do is get the case sugar, man. Can you all the time? So I'm from the next podcast, I remember saying, here's a popsicle for my kid. And we do give our kids sugar free popsicles. I don't think, I would never say that.

Yeah, that is not like something I care about. I told him, okay, by the way, we make sure we give our kids sugar free popsicles. I'm literally starting to like say things. They're never saying. And they're changing stuff. That's what I realized as like when I started doing things like that, I was like never really able to take some of my brain.

It's a bit subliminal. Yeah, and it's all, I'm done with it. Yeah. I hope I get to that point, because there are times, like, look, when people say ridiculous stuff, like the popsicle thing, that's easy to shrug off. That's easy to shrug off. For people who are just like, wow, I honestly hate Matt,

he's so toxic or something, like just crazy. Like, you literally have no idea who I am. Like, it doesn't hurt my feelings. It just makes me laugh. But when it's like this stuff that's like super, super specific and like really gets deep, then I feel like that's where I'm like, ah, that really hurt, you know?

Where it's like really, like really. It was like, it doesn't affect you. I don't know, but there's been times like, when we've gotten hate where it's like definitely. Yeah. And like, you cool, like I haven't wanted to make videos because it's just like, man, I just feel like I've, this isn't fun anymore. Nobody enjoys it, so what's the purpose?

Yeah, but that's not true. What I wanted to say though was, there's actually a clip from this podcast. Like I said, I don't really read comments, but I especially don't read comments on like our podcast. YouTube shorts, dude, is it YouTube shorts? Oh, it's YouTube shorts. See, I don't even know. Like I, because it's like, like you said, who has the time there's so many different things getting posted? Yeah. Anyway, and it was like us talking about baby names in 2023 and it was me it was a clip of me being like baby names in 2023 have gotten so like out there

I was like there's so many crazy names out there and I'm sure ours were all in the nose Keep in mind when I said this I wasn't thinking about any one in particular. Yeah, I didn't even wasn't even thinking of influencers In particular and I was just like some and I think the quote was like I was like it's not the flex that people think it is Yeah, and we just people started tagging guys like crazy and other people like other people that we know personally I was mortified. Oh, because I was like, I never saw it. I wasn't thinking about you guys. I wasn't thinking about anyone in particular.

It was a general statement. Yeah. I'm sure that's something that's happened like throughout the years because like the new names that start to become trendy. I'm sure. The first time they come out like, it's always gonna sound weird.

But like, we're freaking Matt and Abby. Like the most basic white names. I was like, they're like, shut up. Hey, Cole, Savannah's close. But I just wanted to bring it up. You like, wasn't talking about you guys. I don't know if you saw that. I did.

We didn't see it now. But now we're on it. You know, okay, you guys. You're walking. You're walking. Cole Savannah are walking off the podcast. They're leaving. This is crazy.

Good title with them right now. That's the way it's like. But it reminded me of something. Yeah, that was funny. I remember your video. You made a video about baby names, we like, we won't be using. And then you guys were like, if you don't like the name, that's okay.

You're like, I'm not gonna like it. I like, you're not gonna appreciate that, because I'm like, it's so funny because, like. Such a flex. Totally, totally. You're like, that's a flex. Yeah, I'm making this decision. And I feel like that's been a common thing

throughout your career on social media. It's like, you're very bold and like you share things. What you set, yeah, bolder, bolder, bolder, bolder, bolder, bolder, bold, but then also, you're not like out here like conforming to everything that everyone says negative about. Like you believe in what you say and you don't shy away from it.

And I commend you because like, that's a scary place to be in. So cool, I'm so curious. I noticed like last year you made a K place to be in. So cool, I'm so curious. I noticed, like last year, you made a colabrant YouTube channel. Oh, yeah. And then recently, you and Everly made a colon-ev YouTube channel. So, talk to me about that. Are you guys like thinking about maybe stopping

the LeBrant family channel and transitioning to those? Or is that just like a fun side project? Like, what is the vision behind those new channels? So we started slowing content on our family channel. Yeah. Which we're happy about. We wanted started slowing content on our family channel. Yeah. Which we're happy about. We wanted to, it always be real and raw.

We never wanted to force. And just as we had so many kids, our kids have real activities and stuff. So as life's just getting busy, we'll make videos on our family channel. I might say that I'm gonna stop because we enjoy it. So I had more free time, right? But I love making videos.

So started making a lot of fun videos on my channel. And I remember when we first started our Labyrinth Family Channel, we did a lot of fun videos on my channel. And I remember when we first started our Deliberant Family channel, we did a lot of challenges. We did vlogs about, say a lot of it was like challenge stuff. Fun challenges, and then we ended up transitioning to just vlogs, which are fun, but not as exciting. And, you know, every loves making videos. She loves making videos.

She has her own little kid YouTube channel, which she'll make videos on, and then I would have myranch channel that I'll make videos on. And hers were a lot more chill because we literally just say like you do whatever you want. Um, it, she, she, she, she'll go like four months without making a video. Yeah. Um, and then like when you want to make a video, you just kind of grab the camera and, and make it, um, but then I was putting a lot of time and effort and creativity into mine. Yeah. She would see how much fun I was having with my ideas and content. And she's getting older, so she's now seeing YouTube in her eyes, like like she'll see Jordan Matter

and say, Lash, and she's like, I wanna do that. That's fun, like this is all that stuff. So sort of having those conversations as a family being like, okay, well, I could pour in my experience, creativity, all the back work on me. Totally. And we do, we kinda combine forces and have a fun. You do the challenges again, the big, fun things

that we aren't really gonna do on our family channel because it's just gonna make family life. Yeah. We know that we didn't want to do challenges on our family stuff anymore. Then we also didn't want our little bit family to just turn into, I mean, everything because people want to see the whole family.

So when we brought it up to her about the colonel thing, her eyes just lit up and she was like yes. We're like this is something that we can do. Yeah, this is an opportunity. And and we're just kind of like very real that like if we don't do this then like we'll probably start really slipping away in the back to the social media which is totally fine. But like if this is something that you ever want to do then we should probably do it now. And yeah, we didn't even have it so

much fun. Yeah, it's been a much fun. It's been a lot fun. It's been a lot of good bonding time for me and Ev, because again, she's a busy kid with, she's home school, but she has hybrid program where she's in, she's home school three days a week, goes in person school two days a week. She has friends, she has, dance, a lot of dancing.

So this is a good opportunity for me to have some like one on one time with her, because I do see her a lot, but more in the family. Yeah. Space, that's really good to have like one on one time with each of your kids. So this has been a lot of fun for us. Yeah, you recently went to LA together. Was that for the channel? Yeah, that's really. Everyone was actually there for dance with her grandma for a couple of days. And then I came and swapped off with grandma from grandma's that helping with dance. And now

I'm there. So it's fun because you know, people think like years film a video is the entire time. But in reality, you're filming, you know, we'll film a video in one to three hours, is probably what it takes. Yeah. And then you got the rest of the data. Hang on, and even if you're filming a video, it doesn't feel like work, you know?

Like, I don't want people thinking that I get feels like, work, like, we're just having a lot of fun. You know, it's like a sour candy challenge. Like, any kid would love to do it. And it's like, you just got to put sour candy. And I'm really like, my kid that, like, she's not gonna do something that any kid would love to do. And it's like, he's got like a bunch of sour candy. And I'm really like, my kid that like, she's not gonna do something that she doesn't want to do. Yeah.

So, yeah. That's cool. So she's having a lot of fun with it. It's funny, like we've, we've gotten to meet our fair share of creators over the course of the three years that we've done this, like as our job now, I guess. And it's funny just to meet the different personalities.

There's, there are people that like, they also have their phone out, they're always recording something. And I was interested like when we showed up today, like, what's the vibe would you guys give off? And like, people that like, they also have their phone out, they're always recording something. And I was interested like when we showed up today, like what's the vibe would you guys give off? And like you guys like, it just seemed like a very normal family. It didn't really seem like,

I didn't see any phones out. You guys were just like doing your thing. And I think people don't realize like, how much there is off camera compared to what is on camera. Cause like you said, like you can make a video in one to three hours. Yeah. Obviously depends on like the style of content that it is. But it's just cool like you said, you can make a video in one to three hours. Yeah. Obviously depends on the style of content that it is.

But it's just cool, you guys have such a normal life off camera, which I thought was really neat. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah, we love it. And obviously that's the on camera part is filming it one to three hours. And then all the prep, all the leg work, all that kind of stuff is, I would say, the harder, longer, more time-posing stuff. Yeah.

That I like to do. I like to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So my honestly, then, remember, it's all set already just the fun part, which is honestly filming it. Yeah. Then that's when it's like, we do that. But the cool and up channel,

like, do you have a producer working with you? Are you the producer? Does Everly come up with the ideas? How do you, because it's funny, like people don't realize like with creators, a lot of times, depending on the style of content, like if you're producing like a TV show style video, TV shows have like 20, 30, 40 employees working on one show,

but when you're a creator, it's like sometimes just you or just you and a friend or whatever. So like how do you approach who takes on which roles with that new channel? Yeah. A lot of successful people, and we're talking about that too, off camera, you know, did you do good at delegating things off?

He's really good at doing things on his own. We never did that as a family channel. Like I literally had a small camera smaller than these. That we would film every video on. And it'd be funny, because we'd go to like collab with somebody and they would have like so much help, so many big cameras and stuff, and we're just like, hello, with that little time.

We almost feel like this is it. So everyone were doing it. But all of the things said, with this new channel, I feel like it just works for us, that worked for them. But with this new channel, as it grows, we are wanting to make it more professional and make the challenges bigger and more fun

and all that kind of stuff is very time consuming. So if it has a channel grows, we like to fun and all the kind of stuff that is very time consuming. So if it has a channel grows, we like to start delegating that kind of stuff off, but right now it's me and I do have an editor for the channel. I have a videographer who videos us. I'm not behind camera, which is actually fun. I can actually be there. So yeah, it's a little step up for us. That actually fun. Yeah. I can actually be there. Yeah. So yeah, it's a little step up for us. Oh, it's a little step up.

It's fun. That's cool. And then how do you navigate the whole, like you're putting all this work in the channel, but then like say, Everly, like doesn't want to film one day, or like, I don't know, like how do you navigate that? Yeah. I mean, every idea I run by Everly,

to be like, hey, does this sound fun? Yeah. And if she ever says no, we're not doing it. Yeah, yeah again I couldn't I could never even if I wanted to I could never force everything to make a video She's extremely strong will she's first born She's in a video that she wanted to be in that video. Yeah So I always run every video buyer I told her that if this isn't something that we are both having so much fun with it is not worth it

Yeah, and I get the most humble of ways we've done well on social media, to where we don't need to do this. Yeah. We see this as an opportunity for us to have a lot of fun. And for it to turn into something potentially big and amazing for a lot of people. Yeah. But yeah, so long story short, just told everyone

that if we're not having fun fun we're not gonna do it Yeah, we don't want to film we're not gonna film that day. Yeah It's kind of for a two-dap like one-on-one time Four kids we just want you like six weeks ago, so it's still new It's not a problem. It's killing it like that. I think your videos are I was just taking a quick look and You're going to some scribers and I I want to say a lot of videos are like nearing a million or like maybe even over a million I don't know. But yeah, it looks like it's doing well.

That's a cool thing. It's fun to see something that you're having so much fun doing that you love to continue doing. Actually, do well enough to keep doing it. Totally. Well, like, okay, for instance, when I was a kid, I begged my parents to like, please, I want audition for Disney Channel,

or Nickelodeon, I just love the arts and love making videos and I wanted to be like, in that stuff, but we, you know, I was, you totally look like a Disney Channel case. But I lived in Missouri, like, you too actually, yeah. I wasn't in LA, like, I didn't have like, the connections or we didn't know anybody. And then my parents, I think like,

they wanted me to have a normal childhood, which I'm like very thankful for, but like as a kid, I would have loved to do that. So like, I totally understand like, kids wanting to do that, because I for, but like as a kid I would have loved to do that. So like I totally understand like kids wanting to do that cause I wanted to do that as a bit. Yeah, if you could what have existed when you were a child, I would have loved it.

I would have loved it. Yeah, it actually did, but there wasn't like the YouTube like they have now. Yeah, it's not like what it is now. Yeah, when we were kids there was nobody saying like, I want to be a YouTuber. I feel like you were the rainbow cat. No, no, Charlie bit my finger was huge when I was a kid.

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We're in Tennessee. I don't know. I just see slower, pace, live, just so much family time. I just loving it out with my kids and my husband. And I feel like another baby in the future. I don't know. Yeah. And I'm sure like, you say that are people here. Yeah. Maybe they're thinking like social media wise. But whatever we hear, it's more so just like for our fam.

Yeah. And it's very just a live life. And it's going to be great. Posey's going to be five this year, which hard for us to believe. Wow. Studies having her first birthday. It's just like those moments. If I, oh, well, it's so hard to say what's next in the whole feature, but this next year. Just raising the raising the raising these kids. Everybody's busy and it's fun. Yeah, it's full.

And our kids are throwing up all day. And then we're all night. Last night, right? And then we're always ready for that 9 PM. Where we get to hang out with each other. Just us. Yeah, hopefully still have each other. And, oh, no, go for the shong hand home. So, yeah.

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and at least enjoys it too. But I feel like one day Abbie will probably be, probably just like, when I- I will disappear. Probably entered in and never posted in. But like, I think I'll be making- That's very similar to me. Like him and Everly love it.

And that's why I feel like they've shifted. And I would love to just be like playing outside with all of my children. And yeah, I'm just more just more simple. But they like making the videos and they're having fun. So that's kind of the direction. But I would still like to like keep, you know, every once in a while, even if we're kind of stop doing

the family stuff eventually, every once in a while, even if we're kind of stopped doing the family stuff eventually, every once in a while, we are like, give a little update on the kids just because I feel like it's fun for them to watch videos of them growing up. And it's like home videos, you know, so, totally. A little updates here and there are fun. That's so interesting. I'm like, I'm the same way as you, cool, where I, I feel like I'll be making TikToks and YouTube videos till I'm 85. Yeah, cool. Cole loves his videos. He's so good. It's just so much fun and I started when I was 12 and I don't think videos till I'm 85. Yeah, Cole loves his videos. He's a little bit of a fan. It's just so much fun and I started when I was 12 and I don't think, like, why would I ever stop?

Even, I hope, I hope one day we get to a point like you guys where it's like, we don't need to, I mean, it's not like we need to keep doing this. Like we could obviously, Abby got a teaching degree. I'm 15 credit hours from finishing my finance degree. I guess I could always finish that up. Yeah.

But like, I don't know. It'd be cool to, I just want to keep creating for a long time. Totally. Yeah. And it's good to get to a place where like, and you're doing what you love. Yeah. Exactly. So like, that's always the dream is to be able to do what you love without doing it for

a salary, right? Yeah. So like, that's ideally even like, the dream as parent, and I imagine any parent for their kids is like, we don't want our kids to, if they don't have to, work a terrible job that they hate, just to pay the bills.

But like everybody loves dancing, right? She loves dancing. She would love to be a dance teacher and instructor, what that is. Sometimes that doesn't cut it financially, right? But if she can be set up, so then hey, you could be a dance teacher because you love dancing,

not because you got to pay the bills. Like that is a dream come true as parents, with all of our kids. And I have to. There's a lot of kids that would be obsessed with taking dance classes for a month or two. She's such a good little dancer. She would love that.

That would be fun. Oh my goodness. Well, cool and Savannah. Thank you for being on our podcast. Seriously, thank you so much. It was a pleasure. Hey, you guys just set up on our back patio. Yeah, first part.

I know, we're just like, we're just easy for us. We're just chilling back here. This was a pleasure. Hey, you guys just set up on our back patio. Our first podcast. We're just here. This is easy for us. We're just chilling back here. This is so funny. We've actually, this is our first episode that we've filmed outside. We can look where you can see like trees back here.

This is so cool. It's a really nice nap right here. It's a breeze. The trees. Oh yeah. No, but seriously, thank you. And I was like, scary to go on someone else's. So thank you for trusting us that.

And then also your time is so valuable. So thank you. Of course. Thank you guys. It was fun. And then also your time is so valuable. So thank you, of course. Thank you guys. You're fun. This is a lot of fun. Awesome. All right.

Three, two, one, peace out. Peace out.