The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - TikTok Thinks We’re Getting Divorced, Our Travel Nightmare & Flying With a Newborn

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

In this episode, we talk about how TikTok thinks we're getting divorced because of a TikTok we released about how much sugar we let Griffin have, Abby's terrible road trip experience & our, let's just say, eventful first flight with our newborn. This episode is sponsored by Skylight Frames. To get $15 off your purchase of a Skylight Frame just go to SkylightFrame.com/UNPLANNED BUY OUR MERCH!! unplannedpodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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A lot of people that watch our podcast think we're getting divorced. We are so honest on these apps and because of that people are like oh my gosh they have conflict in their marriage. The vores, flying with the newborn is actually not too bad. There's like the perfect white noise of the plane and then the rumbling of the plane. That motion and that noise walled him to sleep. I was like, oh my gosh, we're literally gonna drive through Mexico to get home. You were driving this point, you're like, look, that's literally the wall, it was crazy.

What a privilege that is to get to watch you, bro, it changed, evolving like, you've seen my boobs go from up here to down here. Here. Okay. What's up, dudes? And welcome back to the unplanned podcast. Yeah.

We are so happy you're here. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, really. Thank you for joining us today. We have so many stories to tell. We literally just had a travel nightmare two days ago. And we had another travel, hectic day, a couple days before that.

So there's just been a lot of traveling with kids. I think we need to realize that we will not have a calm travel experience for the next 18 plus years. Man, where should we start? Should we start with the fact that you had a little incident at your workout the other day? Yeah, I was gonna say, we should start with our road trip to Disneyland, but then I was like,

the store really starts before then, because I need to- Abby ripped herself a new butt. In short, that is exactly what happened. Sounds so disgusting when you say that way. But like that's literally how I've been telling my friends is to where I'm like, I got another butt hole. That's disgusting.

That's disgusting. I can't even say that. It's okay. We're all friends here. I feel like butt is where I draw the line. Like that's okay, no. We don't need to go there. But I guess the story kind of requires that.

Also, if you hear a little, there's a baby. We have a third member today. He won't be talking. Like he's enjoying breakfast. Yeah, he's doing like an ASMR video while we film this. No, I mean, it's just nursing while we're talking. ASMR, what do you mean?

I was trying to make a stupid joke. It wasn't even fun. Okay, so back to the story. We, I had this great idea. I was like, if we're going to be in the car all day, I already knew the road trip was going to be like an actual driving time. It's probably like six hours, but with all the stops we were going to need to take because we had both little kids.

It's going to be a long day of sitting. So I decided it's a great idea to go to the gym beforehand, but that left me with the only workout option time as a 6am class, and I obviously, I shouldn't say obviously since I'm nursing, I was gonna have to pump beforehand because there's no way the baby was gonna be up before like at like five when I would need to pump. So I wake up, I pump at five, I get ready, I go to the gym, I'm sick of them. And this specific workout had like about a 5,000 meter row. And I am going to town on that rower. I'm just, you know, shredding away.

And I'm starting to notice, I'm feeling a little discomfort in my tailbone. That's nothing new because- Abby has a freaking tail. Like, if you look at, not that we're gonna show Abby's butt on the internet. No, you can, visibly see it.

No, you can, like it pops out. Like you can literally see. And if I was standing straight up, you can see my, no, you can't. It doesn't actually look like a tail, but like your tailbone is like, it's like almost protruding out of your lower back. That's how prominent your tailbone is.

You can see it. Pretty much, yeah. You can, and you can really feel it. I feel like you can mostly just feel it, but you can kind of see it if I like bend over. I don't know, dude. It's like you have the most prominent tailbone that I've ever noticed in my whole entire life.

It's been something my entire life. Like with dance, like shoulder rolls or anything like on my back, like sitting certain ways, like it literally does hurt. Like my tailbone is like just like long or something. It's weird. And so Abby thinks it's a great idea to push herself to the freaking limit.

And then I get home and I'm like, still, I can't believe this is still bothering me. I'm off the rower, been off the rower for an hour now. I'm still feels weird like when I sit down. It's when I get in the shower and the first little bit of water it runs down my back

into the crevice area that I am like paralyzed in pain. I'm like, oh my gosh, that is intense. And I like literally don't move. I'm like trying to avoid the water at all costs. I get out of the shower as quick as I can, turn around in the mirrors, spread them a little bit, and what I find is jarring to say the least I'm like Matt get in here right now And I looked at Abby and I was like dude you literally rip yourself a new bud hole. Yes That's what it look that's literally what it looked like. I know it looks so gnarly I was appalled. I was like what is wrong with myself. Why did I go so hard that I literally let this

this happen to me? I had no idea like it was like as bad as it was, but there is like a sizable circle around my crack that has no skin. It's like bloody and... We're getting, we're getting way through the details. Basically, I really, really, really injured my tailbone to the point of like

actually having another butt. And then to top it all off, I had like all day of sitting in the car, which was like this was supposed to make it better and it actually made it like 50,000 times worse. In the car, you kept talking about your butt like so much. Like I'm in so much pain, I'm like, Abby, why did you do that? I was like trying to sit every, like, angle it, so it wasn't touching the seat, like, trying to sit every which way wasn't comfortable, especially when I was in between the two car seats and I'm already cramped. I couldn't really like, angle myself.

I was about to cry. I was in so much pain. And I feel like I have a relatively high-paying dollarance and that was, that was almost gonna set me over. Then we're in Disneyland and I'm getting on roller coasters, Jocelyn every which way and I still went on them but I was like, man, she has a whole nother. On the Tower of Terror, I guess it's technically

called Guardians There at Disneyland. You squeezed my hands so hard, I thought I was gonna fall off. Oh, that had nothing to do with my butt actually. It didn't, it was just the falling, if that was all it was. I feel like the feeling of dropping. People, okay, moms, comment down below if you feel this way. The feeling of dropping feels totally different

post pregnancy I feel like. Like, it just feels like my stomach is literally going to come out of me. Like it just drops. But then also motion sickness. I never struggled with that before having babies. And now we went on the teacups and I was like, I don't think I can get out of this thing

without vomiting. You told me to stop. I was trying to spin it fast and you were like wanting me to stop spinning. It was crazy. And I was only at one hand and I had one hand on our kid and one hand on this spinner. I was also worried about Griffin.

I was like, I don't know. He was fine. He was just like, every single ride, he didn't like smile or laugh. He just was like processing it. He didn't know what to think. He had no idea what to think. So it was so new and different.

He definitely wasn't upset. Yeah, he didn't cry. Yeah, let's talk about Disneyland with our kids because everyone is always, I mean, not everyone, but a lot of people say like, yeah, wait to do Disney until they're like five or six. Which honestly is probably the move. Like if you, if you only have the money to go to Disney, oh, yeah, you know, one or two times with your kids and their childhood, you should wait till they

remember it. Like, if you can't get off work or like, if you're only able to go, I totally agree. And I feel like the age to do it would be like five or six would be such a fun age to go. I went when I was five and I remember that trip. I went when I was ten. I remember that trip. Those were like the two main times that I went. I think my parents brought me when I was like two or three. Don't remember it. Right. So if you take your head to the like they're five to ten, I think that's like the glory age to go because I had so much fun. But mainly going this time was for us. We did it for us. But have you seen that clip? Uh, Nate Bargazzi has, he's a comedian, he has a clip where he's like, everyone says,

don't take your kid to Disney until like, you remember, it's like, what do you want me to do? Like, I'm not going to deliver like, you did obviously. Like, put her in a room and be like, do you remember yesterday? And then it's just shut her back in. It's like, I'm kind of more that mindset. Like, obviously, it's different if you are only able to make one or two trips like that, your kid's entire childhood. Or if it's something that you're like, you live close or you have the finances to go

more than once and there's, where are you last year? Sorry, our son's making so much noise right now, press feeding. I don't know if people can hear it, but he's like, he's going to town right now. He's like lifting his leg up and like, kicking is so funny to watch. Like I just forget that he's there sometimes because he's, I know, I just do. And then you're like, what is that noise? And you're like, ah, that's my son eating on my wife's breast.

Okay. But yes, yes, they won't remember it. But it was still so much fun. And I feel like he had a great time. It was underwhelming on the rides and stuff because like we said, we were talking to each other and we're like, why is he not like so incredibly blown away by these Disney rides?

And it's because as a freshly 16 month old, everything in the world is crazy and weird and unique and wild to him. So Disney's just normal at that point. Bro just learned how to walk three months ago. That's pretty big. He literally just learned how to move around on his own. And so for him, climbing up the steps near the shops in Disneyland was just as fun as going on the ride.

I know. And for him, I think he laughed harder with random crap. Like he founded Toy in one of the cars land toy shops that made him smile and get a little more than any of the rides anyone on. I think that everything is new to them, and because everything is new, the rides aren't anything special. He doesn't quite get it. He doesn't quite understand the concept of that supposed to be the fun thing, because

for him, everything is fun. Yeah, but just spending all day outside with mom and dad, I feel like is really sweet. And then it was sweet for us to be able to just like start making memories there because I feel like that's definitely a place we will return throughout his childhood. And we can be like, we took you here when you were one year old and like we took your picture here. So it definitely is more for the parents, but obviously the kids don't dislike it. I will say bringing your parents, the kids grandparents along is the move for sure,

because then that allowed Abby and I to, we do ride swap. So like Abby's parents are going to ride. We would like play with the kids, maybe go on some kiddie rides, walk around, and then they would come watch our kids for like 20 minutes that week you go do a fun ride together. That was nice.

So then you got to experience it more for yourself too. I was like first time growing on roller coasters in a long time. How did that feel? It felt great, it felt really fun. Do you enjoy them still? Yes. You do?

I will say does kind of add another element like with the kids there. I'm like worried about them if we go on a ride without them. I'm like, I hope that they're okay. Even though they're with my parents, like I just, that did kind of make it slightly less enjoyable. Yeah. You know, like the Neanna Jones ride,

I was freaking out because my mom, can you actually admit that? Like I have some mom sense that is insane because I knew that he was crying. And then I texted my mom, sure enough he was crying. And then there was no exit inside. I was freaking out. You're panicking.

And like, okay, we were literally about to get on the ride and Abby wanted to leave the line. We were literally like, there's four people in front of us and Abby wanted to get out of line and go back to our kids and I'm like, Abby, I promise you they're gonna be okay. We can ride the ride and then go. But that is one thing that does stink because you think, well, once you have kids,

you can still find time to be alone, but I feel like it must be some internal instinct where you literally can't shut your brain off from being a mom ever. But trust me, it's not that, I think that instinct, we have that for a reason and it's a really good thing. But then there's also times where it's like, I wish I could shut it off because I'm not just a mom.

I'm also a wife, I'm also a friend, I'm also a daughter and a sister. Like, there's times where it's like, but then I always have to be mom. Yeah, I mean, like, because for me, I knew, I was like, sure, okay, worst-case scenario are kids cry the whole time with their parents. I was like, that is the absolute worst case scenario.

Okay, I'm sure other, I don't wanna think about other bad things. No, that's not like real estate. But truly, the worst case scenario is like, they cried. I don't even know if you're gonna call it on 25 minutes. I mean, we were in the fast-pass lane. We were so quick. I was like, I can enjoy this 20 minutes with my wife

and just be fully present with her and enjoy it. Yeah. And I would say for the first like five or 10 minutes, it was really fun. We were excited. I feel like I was doing heel clicks down the line. We were giggling together. It was fun.

I felt like we were very connected. I think I was just better at massing it at the beginning. You were faking it? Yeah. So you really were thinking about the kids a little time? Yeah. Okay. Because I was like, man, I have her attention.

This is fun. It's like good old times, you know, early days of marriage. And then once you, you got on your phone, I was like, gosh, please tell me she's not texting your mom. And sure enough, you're like, are the kids crying? And then your mom was like, they're crying. And then you're like, no. I knew that.

I knew that the audio was crying. Yeah. Yeah. I could just feel it in my bones. Yeah. Yeah. But I will say, I've gotten better, and it's slowly,

like obviously we have the instinct for a reason it's a good thing, but it does like let it does lessen up. Yeah. Can I be honest though, I think like that moment, it kind of made it, obviously I can't, I want you to care about her children, obviously, but I was kind of buttoned up like,

man, I'm like, I just want like 10 minutes just to connect right now. I was like, I just wanted, yeah. Have each other. And then all you can think about was like, that's so I was, I was, I want that too. Yeah. I don't know how we, I don't know how we do that. I don't know how we get there. I don't know what that looks like. Well, I think it's her again. Oh, for sure. Yeah. I don't know. I really don't know. It takes time and I will always be different since having kids. I will, I'm forever changed since becoming a mom. But I think that when the immediate knees aren't so fully dependent on me,

I'll be able to live more in the moment. And it's really not a fear thing. It's just like, oh, I just feel this responsibility that it's like, I can't, it's hard to, oh, I just feel this responsibility that it's like, I can't, it's hard to give that responsibility to somebody else. Yeah. Was it easier to unplug when we went to Halloween Horror Nights at Universal? Yes.

And that's because the kids were asleep? Yes. No one that they were asleep in, like both of our kids are very good night sleepers. I was like, they're not going to wake up. Okay. They're going to, they're going to, we'll put them down, they'll go to sleep right away. And then I didn't feel like I was like missing out on anything either.

Yeah. Maybe we need to start doing things at night, and then I can wake up with the kids, because I feel like, okay, you can't take naps, but I can take a nap during the day, if I got four hours of sleep. So maybe if we start doing dates and things at night when our kids are asleep,

you'll be able to be more present and you won't be as worried about them. Yeah, I'll just need to take it like three energy drinks beforehand. Three energy drinks? No. That is crazy. The exhaustion you get from breastfeeding is pretty insane. Yeah, I think so.

You can sleep a lot, but you also are really good at like going off of no sleep. Got to do what you got to do. It's impressive. But like Matt said, we did go to the universe of horonites. We didn't even think about we should. Should about that. Yeah, it was it was good The hot the haunted house is kind of sucked to be honest really yeah, they were not scary I've been to some good haunted houses the haunted houses there were not good at all But I did special effects was better than any haunted house we've been to before that no they weren't really the haunted houses

We're we're actually bad what really took me out of it was in every single room of the haunted houses at Universal Horror Nights, they had people there with little ones, like waving you on. I'm like, okay, I just waited in an 80 minute line to come into this haunted house that's only five minutes long and you're in here pushing me forward, like telling me to keep moving forward

when I just wanna at least enjoy it. It really took you out of it. Like they were really bothered me. Keep moving, keep moving, keep moving. Like workers that were not scares, they weren't there to scare you, they were literally just there to like at least enjoy it. It really took you out of it. Like they were really loving. Kate moving, Kate moving, Kate moving. Like workers that were not scares, they weren't there to scare you. They were literally just there to keep you walking. I was like, I can't hear you see Chuckie.

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like this is probably not relevant because people are watching this like a month after Halloween. That's true. But we did get away for several hours and it kind of felt like high school again. Yeah, it was cool. We've been watching stranger things on Netflix. So it was cool. We've been watching Stranger Things on Netflix,

so it was cool. We got to do like, we went to the Stranger Things area of the park. We stayed up till, we were at the park till almost 2 a.m. I know, and I fed him at, when we got back at 3.15. Oh my gosh. And then I went to bed at like four. That was brutal.

Oh, I thought I was on death's bed. Yeah, what was crazy is your parents list that they basically stayed up until we got back. No, that's my proof. Maybe I'll never be the same ever again. Oh gosh, that freaks me out. Because my parents couldn't rest knowing that we were out even though we literally,

and we asked them, we're like, wait a second. You guys wouldn't stay up when we would go out in college. You didn't stay up when we'd go out in Hawaii, but it's just because now we live together and we're always with them, that your parents, like, there's some sort of parent thing where they, their brain is like, oh, I need to stay up till my kids home. And it's like, we are adults, like, we're fine. We're fine.

They tried to go to sleep. I guess they tried to and they just couldn't. It's your dad. It was really your dad. I think your mom was able to more, but your dad is like that. Yeah, maybe I'm more like my dad than like, you just worry about your kids and. Yeah, your dad does worry about it You kind of go to your worst case scenario. It's specific things that makes him worried like driving make some worried a lot

Yeah, which I mean that's pretty good. I just have a lot. I have a lot of optimism like I feel like everything's gonna work out I'm very happy. Good lucky. Thank you. I love that about you. I do feel like you are a person that good things just happened to Maybe it's like the approach like maybe if you just think that good things will happen and they naturally will happen. There's definitely something to do that. The travel on the way back from Disneyland though, it was pretty eventful. Okay. This was our second, by the way, this is our second road trip with 2002.

I guess it's our kids who are so good. They are. We do have great kids. And there's so fun to be around. Yes. Especially the fun age of our 16 month old. He just laughed. So, I'm smiling and laughing. And he started to smile, which is really, really cute.

So, we miss. But, yeah, this is our second road trip with 2002. The first road trip was a trip we took out to Malibu to record some podcasts out there. We took our whole family long. And then with this Disney Land trip, that was road trip number two. And on the way home, we had a road closure,

which kind of threw a whole wrench in our plans. Yeah, my parents were driving. They actually left after us, but they quickly got ahead of us because we have babies. And so they text us urgently. They're calling me like non-stop. I'm like, okay, something's going on.

And I didn't want to answer it because everyone in the car was asleep. Like, both boys were asleep, Matt, you were getting a quick little rest in. And so it's like, I don't want to answer the phone a week, anybody up. But then I was like, this must be serious. And then we finally get a hold of her. And she's like, do not go on the 10, which is like the main highway home. That was going to be the most efficient route. She's like, do not go on the 10. People are out the main highway home that was going to be the most efficient route. So do not go on that 10.

People are out of the cars. Cars are turned off. People are going to run out of gas. I'm pretty sure my dad peed in a cop like- Dude, I think your parents are warriors. Like, they were trying to, they're like, do not come. It's like that take-talk,

you're not take unnecessary journeys. Do not swim across waters. Like, I don't, have you heard of that? That sounds- I think so. Yeah. It's the one that's like I don't have you heard of that that sound I think so yeah it's the one that's like don't take unnecessary journeys yeah well I mean it really was all the cars were stopped in our maps even were like rerouting us and our Apple maps were like freaking out they're like turn around no don't no take this road like I think no one could figure out

what the situation was they made it seem like Armageddon, though. Like, I was like, wow, like literally the road apparently, someone either died, like, I don't know what happened, but they're like, this road, closure situation is so bad that if you go this way, you're gonna run out of gas, you're not gonna be close to any place to get food for miles and miles, they're acting like we're screwed, so you guys need to take another route.

And we're like, okay, well Apple Maps is still telling us to go this way, but maybe we'll take option D. It did reroute us, and then it reroute us back to their way, but then we're like, no, we can't. I'm, they're on the road and they said they're cart, they literally turned their car off, like it was bad. We had to make a split second decision,

and so I'm like, okay, we're gonna reroute. We gotta trust them. The way we got rerouting. Literally took us to Mexico. It took, when I was looking at the map, it was so close to Mexico, I was like, oh my gosh, we're literally gonna drive through Mexico to get home, because that's how out of the way

we have to go to avoid this road closure. And I zoom in really close, and I realize that we were literally like just a couple hundred feet from the border. Literally because we saw the wall. Yeah. Which it's not like a full on border wall. It's more like massive fence. And I'm sure there's barbed wire. And I think it was like 20 feet tall. I mean, we could see it. We were still a couple hundred feet away. And it was a big fence. Like, it was really, really big. You were driving at this point, you're like,

look, you're like, that's literally the wall. It was crazy. So we're like, basically in Mexico, everything is in Spanish. There's nowhere to stop. Dude, I kind of felt like we were in Mexico. Like, there are some of the stops that we took along that route.

Like, everybody was speaking Spanish. People were playing Latin American music. I was like Maybe we did end up in Mexico like maybe we took a wrong turn and we like to go through like yeah, I know Customs I know but like when you're that close the border. It's like it's pretty much the same, you know like The people that live on that side. I'm sure there's a lot of like intermixing of yeah families and everything It was crazy. Yeah, so if you look at a map of LA to Phoenix, LA and Phoenix are not too far from the US Mexican border, but we had to go completely south to avoid this road closure.

It added two hours to our journey. And of course, once we were an hour in, Abby's parents were like, oh, the road's back open. We're going to be home in like three hours. Incredible. We went from our car being off to going full speed, like in a snap. I was like, what? It's like you guys completely let us astray. Because Apple Maps is actually telling us to turn around. So we went, we ended up,

like, you know, rerouting and going towards the border. And then after like 40 minutes of driving, I think that's when the road got opened back up again. And it said, oh, turn around to save like an hour. And we thought, you know what? Lori told us to not do that. We know better than Apple Maps. We're not gonna do that. And so we just kept on.

I mean, they were just trying to help. And then we got home literally. It took us 10 hours. Yeah. And my parents were making jokes and they got back. And literally it took us 10 hours. Yeah, and my We're making jokes and they got back and so they're like I they felt really bad about it But obviously they were just trying to help but it was a journey and you know the boys did super well So we can't complain, but I was like man I would have loved to do a lot of other things and sit in this girl day

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That's skylghtfram.com slash unplanned. Back to the episode. So we get back late, we have one day, and then we're turning around and going back on another trip. To Nashville. To Nashville. Good old Nashville, music city.

We had gone back and forth with whether or not we're gonna take both kids or what we're gonna Do and since we had a lot of work things to do and it was really odd travel times Like we're just going to take the baby with us and leave the toddler at home Which was such a hard decision and it was so sad But I knew that really that was gonna be better for him It was gonna be a little bit more of like a selfish decision to bring him along if that makes sense. Or at least that's what it felt like. It's given the options that we had, the fact that he could stay with my parents and, you know, have fun for the

weekend with them. And I knew that he'd be well taken care of. So we leave at the butt crack of dawn on in the morning. I woke up before I am. Why on earth did we decide to take a 5-20am flight? Because I wanted to not be away from our toddler for us. I want to be gone from him as little as possible. I feel like that's what kind of screwed us up. I feel like taking such an early flight kind of- That's definitely not what screwed us up. You don't think so? I think the fact that they send our bags to a different state is what we're getting ahead of our self in the story. Okay, so we woke up at 4 a.m. to catch a 5 20 a.m. flight and when I woke

up, I already had our Uber schedule to come pick us up. This thing, it gets so messy, but I already had our Uber schedule to come pick us up and it was supposed to come at 405. So I was literally going to just up, throw in some clothes, and leave. Like not even brush my teeth, not even wash my face, not eat anything. Okay, you didn't do any of that. Well, I didn't wanna do, I didn't wanna do any of those things.

I ended up actually doing it because when I woke up, it showed that the uber was still 10 minutes away. So I was like, oh, I have time to take like a super fast shower and just like maybe brush my teeth and then throw my clothes. Did you brush your teeth? I actually did.

Yeah, I brushed them. I brushed them. I'm pretty sure. So. I have I actually did. Yeah, I brush them. I'm pretty sure. So, I do that and I didn't realize this at the time, but I got a call at 4.02 a.m. and you know what the call was? It was our Uber driver asking for the code to our gate. That was you that did it. It was not me. It was Uber because it's show that they were 10 minutes away But somehow he was actually like already there like he was he was just waiting at the gate to be led into our neighborhood So he needed the gate code But for some reason they showed on the tracking thing that his arrival time was 10 minutes

So I was like not checking my phone. I was like, oh, we got 10 minutes. We're chilling I can like get things done right now rather than just like rush to get out the door and that's when like while I was showering the Uber driver dropped us and then we had we got a new driver So then our pickup time got pushed back even further. So why are you just now admitting this to me? I was I thought of you a good time to tell you all the podcasts you That's not my fault by the like if Uber says the driver's not gonna be there for 10 minutes You can't expect him to be waiting at your gate But it's also such a matter of thing to be like oh, I have 10 minutes, you can't expect them to be waiting at your gate. I understand, but it's also such a mad hower thing to be like, oh, I have 10 minutes. Let me just take a shower.

Let me get thrown a load of laundry. I'm going to go do actually, I think I have time to do a work on get it, make a protein shake. Like, that is such a you thing. Okay, let me say this though, like, I would have heard the call coming in, but I have my, I always have my phone on, do not disturb just so that I can like, be more present with like family and stuff. Yeah, you're hard to get a hold of on the phone. It's so, I'm like be more present with like family and stuff cuz I- Yeah, you're hard to get a hold of that on the phone.

It's so I'm like my ADHD gets to that to me sometimes and so like I just keep my phone on silent like at all times that way I can be like present in moments and yeah anyway. Oh my gosh. So you were so- So you were so- You were so- You were so- Tell me this if you didn't talk about it on the podcast.

I was gonna tell you eventually but we got so we we were so late getting the airport, we didn't get to the airport until 4.40 AM with a 5.20 AM flight. That was stressful. So very stressful. With the baby. I feel like every time we're in a rush to get to the airport, the Uber drivers always take in their sweet time.

I don't want to tell them to break the law, but I'm like, freaking stuff on it dude. I'm like, we gotta get to the airport. I'm not telling you guys, and Uber and he started driving the wrong direction. I was like, we gotta get to the arrow. I'm not telling you guys, and Uber, and he started driving the wrong direction. I was like, we're getting kidnapped for sure. I don't remember that. What was that?

You, because you don't even know how to get to the airport. You get in the car and you're like, I just, they just took off in the opposite direction of the airport. Yeah. Was it me that says something or did you say something? It was me. I was like, this is not the direction of the airport. And he was like, oh, I think he got his navigate.

He had pure intentions, but it was not a mistake. But in my mind, I was like, oh, I think he got his navigate. He had pure intentions, but it's not a small stage, but in my mind I was like, we are getting kidnapped. Sweet guy, I always talk to the Uber drivers. You do. I always like to make friends with them. It's so sweet, you guys. It's literally like pitch black outside. Like we said, 4 a.m. Matt, I literally took a picture of you

because I was so amazed by you. I should put it all in my story. It's crazy because I'm just like dead girl walking. Like I cannot, I'm just sitting in the car trying to continue on with my life. Because it's so early and I slept like three hours and Matt is getting this man's life story. It's so sweet. You're like, oh, is he like sport? I thought it was interesting because he was- What's your normal daylight?

Our Uber driver was from Arizona, but he wasn't- The team that he would root for is the Atlanta Braves, even though he was from Arizona, like, why don't you root for the Diamond Vax they're literally in the world's heavers right now? And he was like, no, I'm an Atlanta Braves guy. And then he drove for Uber at 4 a.m. Cause that's when I think you can make more money

and he can plan on to stay better. And so he just like wakes up super, super early. So he can get more like drives. Oh, gosh, yeah. Anyway, masking this man's life story. just like wakes up super super early. Less traffic. Less traffic too, so he can get more like drives in. Oh, god, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, masking this man's life story, and I'm just like silent in the back seat.

Make it to the airport. I'm also stressing because we can't check her back. It's getting work. We cut it way too close. So something that I saw, we were flying Southwest where you can check two bags for free. And something that I saw on the way to the airport was apparently you have to check them

60 minutes before the flight. I didn't realize that. You told me 45. Every airline is 45. Every airline is like 45 or 30. Actually, I think Americans 30 minutes before. You can check it up to 30 minutes before. Before you board. Not before departure. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, Southwest is like, they're a little bit more strict with that apparently. So I'm seeing that on the way and I'm like crap crap crap

So we get there at 440 and I know this because I heard the Southwest people Like once we had arrived and they lost our bags. I heard them talking about this like they saw that our bags had been checked at 440 am so we were still in the window to like get them on but they Apparently were like considered like, I think they were late checked or I forget what they call it, but they still took them. And the guy didn't act like there was any problem with it. The guy that was checking her bags didn't say, hey, by the way, these might not make it

to your destination. Never said that. He just checked the bags and we're like, okay, we're good. We made it. We're fine. We ended up getting on the plane. Of course, the plane was boarding once we had gotten there. We made it through security. We actually signed you up for clear on the plane. Of course, the plane was boarding once we had gotten there. We made it through

security. We actually signed you up for clear on the way, so we're trying to bypass the line to get to the front. Yeah, and it actually took a while to sign up for that. But we get on the plane and that was all good. Well, did you take a while? It was just the boarding line was not, general boarding was not long. Yeah. And then it ended up taking longer. And once we landed, could not find our bags Anyway, by the way, we got to talk about the newborn situation flying with the newborn He's first flight his first flight. Did they give him the little

Badge gave him a little card. They did it wasn't a badge like Griffin Yeah, because Griffin got that little American airline says is for Southwest You like a certificate. Let me just say, if you feed your baby like while you're taking off and while you're landing and you have a newborn, like they're a legit newborn and they're hopefully sleeping well, like it's kinda easy. I don't wanna get ahead of myself

and like make it sound like it's the best, but I think like flying with a newborn is actually not too bad. Yeah, if you're worried, if you're in a position where you're like contemplating going to something because you know you're gonna have to take your baby on their first flight. And I would say they're anywhere from zero to four months. I think you're going to have a really smooth experience.

Obviously, every baby's different, but like I think that the first of all, we had his dream land on him. So he knew it was like, okay, this is my cozy sleep time. Yeah. But then it was also dark because it was so early in the morning still. But that doesn't really matter when there's that young. It's really the fact that there's like

the perfect white noise of the plane, and then the rumbling of the plane, that motion in that noise just lulled him to sleep for like two hours. I had a piece so bad, and I just was holding it and holding it. Yeah, I was like that. I didn't want to disturb the piece.

I could see like if I went to go pee, you were gonna like slap me in the face. I was shooting you daggers. I was like, are you really thinking about your own needs? Right now this baby is asleep and he needs to stay asleep. Or else he's gonna be so mad. But it was a three hour flight. But it was a three hour flight.

I cannot hold my pee for three hours. I know that you're a super pee holder. Like you can hold your pee for an unimaginable time. I don't understand how you do it. It's a superpower that you have. I think it's a mom superpower actually that you can hold your pee. Yeah.

Maybe not. Some moms pee their pants. You actually pee your pants sometimes too. Like at the gym, if you're doing jumping jack, you'll be your pants. It's gotten a lot better. I think my pillow floor is strengthened. Oh, sick.

Okay, good for you. Don't say that because then the pelvic floor people are gonna come in the comments. Really? Why? The pelvic floor people are always telling me to go get my pelvic floor flake. Oh, okay.

Yeah, I think you did that one time and it was like kind of weird. It was not for me. It was just like stick it up there and they're just like feeling around. And they're like, I'm in this one. What? What are personal house and they're like cough and they like, I don't even know. That's so weird. I can be your pelvic floor.

You want to stop. No, no, no. Sorry. Okay. I'll take them for the team. That's actually really weird. I didn't even know that you were doing that when you went to go do that.

I didn't know what that was going to entail. You didn't even, so they're just like, take your clothes off and you're like, what? Well, I thought that that was going to be part of it, but I just didn't know what I was in for, you know? Are they technically a doctor? Or like, what are they? Are they a doula? Or like what are they, are they a doula? Like what type of certification do they have?

Probably depends. Okay. She was not a doctor. Okay, I feel bad. I'm probably offending a public floor specialist that's listening to her. No, and I'm saying it's, I, by the amount of people that are telling me to see them,

I know that so many people have great experiences with them. It just wasn't for me. Yeah. We got to understand that we can all have different. We can all support each other, even if it's not decision we would personally make. That is right.

Well, it works for one person. Might not work for somebody else. And vice versa. And vice versa. Maybe might not work for other babies, but all you had an amazing flight. He didn't cry once. No.

It just went so well. I did the poopy diaper change. Honestly, you are super dad for doing that. I was like, I can't imagine changing a diaper in those cramped bathrooms. I did the poopy diaper change. Honestly, you are super dad for doing that. I was like, I can't imagine changing a diaper in those cramped bathrooms. I could barely go to the bathroom. How do you change a diaper in there? It's not that bad.

I mean, at least every airplane that I've been on, they have a little diaper change station that folds down. And so you just, I don't know, it just feels like changing a diaper in a regular bathroom except the bathrooms way tinier. You are super dad. I've never changed a diaper on a flight and you always have to do. Oh, you're right. I guess I always do change the diapers way tinier. You are super dad. I've never changed a diaper on a flight, and you always have to change the diapers on a flight. I guess I always do change the diapers on a flight.

But it folds down, and it's just kind of the same situation as changing it at a public restroom with a diaper change thing. Only thing is because of the cramped quarters, I'm not really able to wash my hands afterwards, so I kind of just like change the diaper and go from there because it's hard. I'm sure if I really wanted to, I could figure out a way, but usually we have like,

Cantonetizer that I can sanitize my hands with afterward. But yeah, it's just like a teeny little mini change station. And I think I was actually even able to pee with Ogi in there too. I just like held them with one arm. I had like one hand I was able to like, unzip and just go pee and then like hold him with the other hand. Oh my gosh. Like super dad moves. I do that with Griffin too. Like if I need to go,zip and just go pee and then like hold him with the other hand. Oh my gosh.

Like super dad moves. I do that with Griffin too. Like if I need to go I'll just, I can hold Griffin. One time he's literally spit his binky into the toilet. I just hold you about that right? Please let me, you just let it go. I think I put it in a plastic bag and then we like boiled it. That's actually, yes we did boil it.

I think we kept the binky. I guess you can't flush that that's not appropriate. Yeah. No it's like they literally say don't put paper towels into the airplane toilet. They never said pinkies. They never said pinkies. I mean, they can't think of everything, right? Like, how are they gonna say that?

Anyway, so perfect flight, we land. And I was so thankful. I would literally call my mom and say, this is the best travel to ever. Augie's sub-cray, we landed on time. We're gonna make it to our first podcast. I'm so excited about these guests, like all these things. And then we see the lines of the rental car pick up.

And then we see the fact that our bags are not there. And then I start to cry. The line to get our rental car was almost an hour and a half long. It was. No, no, no, it took every bit of an hour and a half. You think so? Yes. Okay, because I guess they're running a special,

we got the cheapest rental car. We always do that. We always, I'm not gonna pay extra for a rental car. Like, I'm not gonna own this car. I drive it for a couple days. We should admit, it was our first time not paying the underage driver for me. We've been on this 25 now.

You guys, that is actually the best perkabing 25 is not having to pay the stupid underage driver fee for renting a car. Because it is pretty dumb pretty dumb like you've been driving for almost 10 years Yes, and in Hawaii. Wow, that's like a ladybug in the room in Hawaii when we took a trip last year I was 24 and I was supposed to get the the fee waived because I have a AAA membership and if you book with Hertz through AAA They'll waive the fee But I booked through Hertz online and had the AAA membership and they wouldn't honor it

and give me and wave the fee. So I thought I was getting a killer deal for like a three week long car rental for only like 500 bucks. And then they ended up saying, oh well, we're going to have to charge the fee. So then it doubled. So it was $1,000 to rent this freaking rental car. I was so good. Because you were 24.

So pissed. I'm like, dude, I took 10 months instead of 25. Yes, it was February. I was about to turn 25 literally in a matter of four months. And they just were like, screw you for being four months under the age of 25. We're going to charge you $500 extra dollars. It was so dumb.

And it was just a tiny car on car also. We could barely fit a car. Such a teeny car. But with this trip, no, we didn't have to pay the underage fee. And yeah, got the rental car. But that wasn't even, that wasn't even, we didn't have to pay the under-age fee and Yeah, got the rental car, but that wasn't even that wasn't even I can't talk I can't really separate it. That was the least of our problems That's what I wanted to say that that's the choice was the fact that our all of our luggage with all of our toiletries clothes Podcast equipment that we had a podcast scheduled with can we say who it was because it's coming out next week?

Yeah, we had a podcast scheduled with, can we say who it was? Cause it's coming out next week. Yeah, we had a podcast scheduled with Jess and Gabe. Yeah, I was so excited. This was like an episode I was like, so looking forward to couldn't wait to meet them. And I just felt, it was our first time ever meeting them and I felt mortified that I had to call her and say, oh, actually, we don't have any of our equipment with us. Yeah.

Because it's in Dallas. Why in the world, how do they even make it to Dallas? We're going from a direct flight, Phoenix to Nashville, and our bags are in Dallas. Tell me how that happens. I think what happened is somehow they didn't get our bags on the plane. And I think part of it might have been with us arriving a little bit late. Oh, so it was our fault. And so, but they didn't say that, though.

I think when I heard all the Southwest Airlines workers talking, it seemed like we had still gotten it in a fair enough window that they had enough time to get it on the plane, so they couldn't blame it on us, but they did recognize, they're like, oh, they did check it at 440 in the flight left at 520. So it seemed like they still had enough time to get it on the plane and then they were trying to pull all these strings

to get the bags back to us. I will say everyone was very helpful in trying to get on the plane and then they were trying to pull all these strings to get the bags back to us. I will say everyone was very helpful in trying to get the bags back, but it was incredibly frustrating just because when you're away from your kid, you want it to be as trim and get it done as quickly as possible. So we were supposed to land at 10.30 and then meet them at noon. And I thought, now and a half should be enough time. It would be, we'd have to hustle our booties, but we should make it, especially if the flights on time.

But now we are talking with the bag agents and waiting for the Tyrendal car for almost, like it was an hour and a half to two hours. We didn't, so we didn't leave the airport until, I think, 1230, because it took us that long to get our rental car. Maybe was it was it what I might have been like 12. So man, I are trading off at this point just so you know like one of us is waiting in line at the rental car Pick up and then the other one of us is talking to like the bag people and Okay, tell me how I should go about this because I never ever ever want to be a Karen and I don't want to be annoying because I know

It's not the customer service workers fault. They're just the ears of it, but they are like enacting the policies that their company they're working for has. But on the flip side, when you pay for a service and it's not done properly, it's not like they should be punished or anything, but there should be a make good

because you did pay for the service and the flights were very expensive. Yeah, they were, they were expensive flights. And equipment in our bags was extremely expensive too. And such an investment on our end. So it's like, there should be some make good. And to be honest, the make good. I don't know, I didn't know what to do.

I never ever, ever want to be rude. Yeah, so I, I was in there trying to negotiate. Honestly wasn't doing the best job. Can you see the TikToks, right? Where did you hear this? Oh, yeah. See, it's one of those things where you don't know what your rights are.

Like, I didn't know. I wish I could have had a little crash course beforehand, knowing what the airline is legally able to do, what they're legally obligated to do, because they're gonna do, I mean, these workers are trained to try to give up as little as possible.

Like if they can just give you a $5 coupon to go get some french fries at McDonald's as a make good, that's what they would do. Not that that even exists. I literally just made that up. That's obviously- No, the worst make good we've ever had was $20 a spend at the Charlotte airport on airport food. That was stupid.

Well that wasn't me got stranded in Charlotte. And that's when a flight was canceled. And there was like even no- there was no airport food. That was stupid. Well, that was when we got stranded in Charlotte. And that was when a flight was canceled. And there was like even, there was no airport food where we were in the process. They were like, sorry, we ran out of hotel vouchers, but you can get $20 of airport food. And that got me a chicken salad sandwich, because you've seen the prices at the airport.

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So I get Abby on the phone though, because I'm like this woman, Abby was, Abby was pissed because she didn't have any for clothes, she didn't have any of her makeup. Abby hadn't gotten into the plane. Abby hadn't showered, like she wanted to, like you know, do't have any of her makeup. Abby hadn't got into the plane. Abby hadn't showered. Like she wanted to, like, you know, do her hair, do her makeup, like put on.

I wanted to brush my teeth. Put on some clothes before we were filming this podcast with Jess and Gabe. And it was looking like she wasn't going to be able to do any of that stuff. So I get Abby on the phone and she's. Well, we also didn't have the equipment to film. That's true.

So it wasn't even possible. So I get Abby on the phone and she's talking to these ladies and what was funny is one of the workers was like, a better negotiator than I was equipment to film. That's true. So it wasn't even possible. So I get Abby on the phone and she's talking to these ladies. And what was funny is one of the workers was like a better negotiator than I was because once she heard that Abby was just, you know, she's trying to film her podcast and her video podcast and needed her like makeup and hair and stuff, this lady was like, you could tell like she cared about like her makeup and hair. They were so nice.

And she was like, this is really like, she was like going to bat for Abby, like negotiating for her with the higher ups at Southwest. It was just kind of funny. They were so nice. And we were just like working it out and then thank goodness the bags weren't actually lost, lost, like they were in Dallas. And so they were just trying to figure out a way to get the bags there. Obviously, it was not there in a timely manner and I felt terrible.

Jess and Gay were so polite. And reworks their whole schedule, which is a huge deal, especially when you have child care lined up. And so I felt terrible. But like at first they said, oh, you know, we know your bags are there in Dallas. They'll be here at 155 pm. And I said, okay, how long until they'll be off the plane like ready for us to grab. And they said, it'll be like 10 minutes. And so we arrived at the airport at like 155 for the bags to come. And then we ended up not getting the bags

till closer to three o'clock. Yeah, and I'm just taking laps around the airport with Ogi in the car and Ogi hates when the car stops. And you were super stressed. I was super stressed. Your watch tells you when your stress levels are off and you kept throughout the day showing me your stress levels. You're like, man, I'm so stressed right now.

I'm so stressed. And I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't, I'm trying to, I wish I could just like snap my fingers and fix the whole situation, but this is like. I think that a lot of it came from just like having other people, like working around us and then we're constantly changing on them. Like that makes me feel really bad, but obviously in the grand scheme of things,

it's such a first world problem. And not a big deal. It's just a big problem. It's just like all of it just like really was not a big deal, but in the moment, I was like this feels like the worst thing I could do to like, my first meeting someone to just be so late and to keep changing it. Yeah, because we didn't,

it was so gracious now. Because we didn't end up filming with them till five o'clock. We were supposed to film at like 12.30. So this whole airport, if you ask't end up filming with them till five o'clock We were supposed to film at like 12 30 so so this whole airport fiasco got pushed it back five o'clock And so what I told Abby is like hey look Abby. Let's think about the worst case scenario, okay worst case scenario We cancel this episode we flew to Nashville for basically nothing and it seems like really bad right now But 10 years from now we're not gonna give a crap We're gonna forget about this this really bad situation that we're in right now, and the grand scheme of things really doesn't matter

all that much, and we're gonna live to see another day. We're gonna be okay. And I think it is one of those things where you realize like, wow, when you have it so good, a problem like losing your bags at the airport and not being able to film a podcast, like sure in the moment it seems like the worst case scenario, but in the grand scheme of things things it's not that bad.

Yeah, that's a really good. You were helping me, you were giving me perspective, you're like this is not a big deal. And it's like it's so true, it's not a big deal. And I think it also didn't help that at that exact same time. Oggy was crying in the car. And then the lady told me, because I'm trying to help Oggy.

You took three laps, right? Like Abby, my sister-in-law, Adi and I were in the airport waiting at the carousel after the flight got delayed, past 155. We were there for, you know, basically an hour just waiting for the bags to come and you keep taking laps. During that, like, almost hour that we were waiting inside, you would take in three laps. So you knew that if you left the passenger pit. It would take like over 20 minutes.

Yes, you would be gone for a while because they don't like it at airports If you haven't been to an airport passenger pickup is so chaotic and there's like workers there like yelling at people like Like if you stop for more than like five seconds or like move on They're like yelling shouting at people threatening to like tow their car and stuff And so you have a screaming baby in the car I'm like reaching the back seat trying to give him his binky back and trying to suit him and like make sure everything's okay. And there is a security guard once again. They're just doing their job. But she's like banging on my window telling me I can't wait. I'm like I'm not waiting. I'm

taking care of it. I said do you hear my baby crying? I'm pretty sure you didn't say it like that though. I was like do you hear my baby? Did you open up a can of sass on that lady? What do you mean? I know you have it. It had a tone. But I wasn't like cutting her out. Did you roll up your window on her? She's on that lady. What do you mean? I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby.

I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby.

I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you, Abby. I know you out and so I was like, I pulled over again.

And like, no, you said you would, when I came to the car, you're like, I want to fight that woman. I know I was so mad. I was like, I'm ready to fight her because she cannot, like, she can't understand. I have to care for my kid and this day has been a lot. But um, that was wrong of her though, because what they told us is for picking up lost luggage, they literally said, you can park your car and passenger pickup, put the flashers on

and come in and grab your lost luggage and grab it. They literally said that to us, because I was asking them, like, hey, if we're gonna have to come back again to the airport for a third time to get this lost luggage, because it was taking so long, we didn't know when the flight was gonna land, they said, oh yeah, you just like,

put your parker car out and pass it. I told her it was lost luggage. Yes, and so she still didn't care. So that's why I was telling you, I was like, that's weird that she was pushing you that hard. Maybe she just thought you were lying to try to stay longer, I don't know, but I don't doubt that you'd fight that lady.

Oh my gosh, I'm, you think it actually fight her? I think if there's any mom to do, get into influencer boxing, it would be you. Not a shit. I feel like you would win too. But you're totally crazy. I would never fight anyone. I can even watch other people fight.

Okay, I'm not talking about like in real life, but if there's, you're very into fitness. Like you work out like six days a week. And honey, let's be honest, you're freaking jacked. Okay, there's photos of you, there's TikToks. There's a TikTok of you like flexing. Oh my gosh. Like pre baby when you're freaking jacked. Okay, there's photos of you, there's TikToks. There's a TikTok of you flexing. Oh my God. Pre-baby when you're working out a ton at CrossFit

and you're already getting back to that same jacked level that you were before, but you were freaking yoked. And I also hate violence, so I would literally never, ever, ever fight somebody. I don't know though, I feel like you want to wrestle me. So like you've literally told me before, you're like, can we just wrestle? And I'm like, what is wrong? I'm not gonna wrestle you. I'm not gonna wrestle you. I don't know though. I feel like you want to wrestle me. You said, like, you've literally told me before, you're like, can we just wrestle? And I'm like, what is wrong?

I'm not gonna wrestle you. I'm not gonna like wrestle you. You expect me to wrestle you. So then I get a hug, I'm gonna get out. And I'm like, Matt, come on. But I would not actually out of like anger fight another woman? No way.

Why do I feel like secretly you would? Why do I feel like in another life, you would totally be like a fighter. Like those female fighters that you see on TV, I feel like, like, in another life, you would totally be like a fighter. Like those female fighters that you see on TV, I feel like they can totally be you. Because you're so into the rush that you get from really pushing yourself crazy hard to work out. I feel like you'd love that rush that you'd get

from pushing yourself in a fight. Okay, well maybe some other mom influencer, like once you reach out, like, you're literally crazy. Yeah, no, I mean, I appreciate that in a way. influencer like once to reach out like You're literally crazy Yeah, no, I mean I appreciate that in a way like I love to be told that I'm tough Yeah, you're tough. I there's no world There's also no world in which I would even like call this woman a name like I was just like do you hear him crying? Do you hear him crying? Yeah, she was just delivering the double you sass back? I thought I was like in my mind

I was like there's no way this woman is a mom if she was a mom She would know she would be like oh my gosh your baby's crying like you do what you need to do to take care of him right now And he was screaming pretty loud right he was screaming and so I was like there's no way She's a mom and so then I was like at this point She's not a mom. She does not understand. I like rolled up my window. I was like bye-bye Why is that that the second that we stop our vehicle, our newborns start screaming at the top at the top of the month? Yeah, it's a common thing though.

It happens every time. And it's almost on to the second honey. Like we'll be driving it and we'll be driving for a while. And then we stop and the second like boom, it's like he just wakes up. So at the last minute they come out, they load the car, we zoom. And we got the podcast done. And we ended getting the podcast filmed. We filmed from five o'clock till, was that 9 p.m.

But we got it done. Well, it's because it's so fun to talk to them. That's next week's episode with Jess and Gabe. It'll be awesome. Jess and Gabe Conti. Yes. And it was incredible. They're like, they're OG couples creators.

We watch them before we were even making TikToks. Like, when I first started making YouTube videos. I watched them before we got made really. Yeah, when I was making YouTube videos early on, I didn't know what we should make videos about. So I literally looked at their videos and I was like, okay, this is a couple that we can kind of figure out how to do this from.

So I don't know, it was cool. It was a full circle moment. Like that is kind of crazy. There was a moment there I was saying, I was like, I cannot believe that we are seeing you guys from them talking and having a conversation. Yeah, but also felt so natural and so far.

We didn't want to be weird because like we also realized, okay, do we tell them that like we've watched their old videos and stuff. They were pretty open about watching our content. So then I like, uh, okay, we're like, we're chill and stuff. Yeah, it worked out really well. I did have a massive migraine by the end of the day because of all the stress of the morning, not sleeping, not like that whole time.

I also didn't eat or drink a sip of water. We both slept like four hours the night before all of this. So that was a recipe for disaster. It was a recipe for disaster and I had a crazy migraine. Like literally my head was spinning. I couldn't eat because I was gonna throw up, but we got it done.

We almost had to cancel the podcast though. All for you guys. No. Yeah. It was partially for me too because I was really excited to have a conversation with them, but it was quite the experience. I feel like my fear right now is that people are gonna think that we're like a couple of influencers complaining about like such a like an entitled like travel experience, you know? I Hope that people didn't take it that way. I feel like it definitely was hectic and We can we can definitely like recognize the privilege that we were able to fly on a plane and the privilege of like having a podcast Like I think I think that's all real, but I also think we did have a crappy travel day,

and I think that's a reality for us. Yeah, it was a bummer. But you're in the grand scheme of things, there's way worse things. Oh my gosh, yeah. It's way worse things. It's so funny. Things can feel like, oh my gosh, how could this get worse? It's like, okay, wait, it really can be a lot worse. But you can't think about that all the time because you just can't live your life like that. Yeah. How are you feeling right now? I'm shocked that we haven't decorated our house

for Christmas yet. I am so excited. Well, we haven't had time. That's true. We've been kind of traveling and doing all these crazy things. But like usually November 1st, like that's when our tree goes up and we don't even have a Christmas tree up right now.

Our Christmas tree is currently in storage. Are you gonna get that? I really honestly, it's like buried with all of your parents stuff around it. So that's gonna be a huge pain in the butt to get it. But you know what, we'll get me to do it quicker. I'll make a video about you. Oh my gosh. I'll like vlog myself, like trudging through all like couches and furniture and like grabbing. Gosh, I don't that thing must be deep in this storage unit. Christmas tree is in a storage unit

with all my parents stuff from when they moved to Arizona. They didn't know their plans. So like we're on a car furniture and everything, cause like it was temporary them living with us. So we're can't really well right now still, but anyway, it's all in a storage unit and that is buried with our Christmas tree. And so I can't wait for Matt to get it out and decorate.

I also though, I will say, I'm not like the hugest decorator. Really? Really? I mean, you do like the big- I have so much Christmas cheer, but I just don't, I kind of have a hard time spending money on Christmas decorations sometimes

because I'm like, oh, we can only use it for like a month and a half. I feel like we went freaking him and bought like $500 in Christmas decor. That doesn't get you very much like last year. That literally just got me like a cookie jar and... No. We got, I think it was like every...

I don't know if that was including the tree, but we got like everything to decorate the tree and you got some different, you know, festive jars and things. Yeah, but you'd be surprised how little that gets you now. I think if you can thrift, that's the way to do it. Yeah, but then it doesn't match. Oh, true. That is the goal. Unless you have a really good eye for it, which I don't.

I don't. That's why I'm also not great at decorating, because I don't have a good eye for it. R.T. people that know how to like thrift and like make it all look eclectic and work together. Dude, come on. Yeah, so I have so much Christmas cheer, so much holiday love, but I just,

I'm not the biggest decorator, but I'm very excited to get the tree up. We are actually hosting things, giving this year, which feels very adult to us, doesn't it? I know. Like, oh my goodness, we're gonna be obviously everyone in our family is so helpful and gonna chip in,

but like, we're gonna be in charge of like, getting a turkey on the table. We just got our backsplash done. We did it. We're in our kitchen, we now have kitchen backsplash tile, so helpful and give it a chip in. But we're gonna be in charge of getting a turkey on the table. We just got our backsplash done. And our kitchen, we now have kitchen backsplash tile. We also got a feature wall done in our dining room. Like our house has always been blank white walls and we're finally making it feel more homey,

which I love. We didn't buy our house new, but we bought it from people that were the first original owners, so they kind of had it just as all white walls. And I love white. I love white as being like the base of a home, but too much white just feels like you're in a hospital.

And so now it's nice that we're getting tile up on our kitchen. It is crazy how getting stuff up on the walls makes a space feel bigger. And homey. Yes. So homey. So hosting thingsgiving, we're making, my goal, I told Matt, do you remember what my goal

is for the Thanksgiving? Oh, for a half a year. To take a pumpkin and turn it into a pie. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Everything from scratch, I want to make the crust from scratch, I want to make, I'm not even going to buy canned pumpkin, I'm going to turn the pumpkin into the puree. Yeah.

I make it. That is dope. That is really cool. That is dope. That's really cool. Something I'm very excited for and I just, I love the co-siness that's getting colder in Arizona. Feels very snugly. We have two children to celebrate the holidays with this year. It's going to be like so magical. So it's right me. I think... Are we gonna do Santa Claus with our kids? Ooh, what do you think? What do you think? I think yes, I think yes. Why the heck not? Pros and cons.

Okay, pros. The causes that they don't have this earth shattering moment like I had when I found out that Tanna wasn't real. I was like, oh my gosh. What else are they lying to me about? Yeah. I feel like it is like kind of weird that past could. I don't really know now.

I don't know, that is weird to lie to your kids. That is weird. But maybe you don't look at it as a lie. You look at it as like, we are creating an imaginative world for them and making the holidays magical. It kind of frustrated me though when I found out that Santa wasn't real.

I just... The fact that you're so careful about that. Yeah, it was earth shattering. And I mean, I wasn't sad. I was like, dang, I was like, okay. So then this, this, this, I was like the tooth fairy, Easter bunny, like all those things. And I mean I wasn't sad. I was like, dang I was like, okay, so then this, this, this, I was like the tooth fairy, Easter bunny, like all those things.

And I just like drilled my father and he was like, well, and I was like, dad, come on. He was like, okay, yeah, you're right. Like none of it's- It was just gonna be a question. I even asked my parents, I was like, well, is God real? Like I had so many like, yeah, it really did kind of mess me up. But I also really loved the magic

that was there for that amount of time. Like the magic of Christmas with Santa, like all of that. But then I'm like, maybe we should teach our kids that the magic of Christmas comes from family. Comes from family and from people. Wait, maybe I like that more.

Maybe I don't wanna observe that then. We could just tell our kids that it's just an actor and a costume in the mall. Because when your kids like three years old, they think that E or at Disney World is real. But then once they're sick, oh yeah, he did cry when he met Winnie the Pooh. But once they're sick though,

they're gonna realize like, oh, that's just a per... The little girl behind us in line. Oh my God. We were in line for the to meet Winnie the Pooh and they kept saying the workers it's so cute. But they're like, okay, in two minutes, Pooh is gonna have to take a honey break

and so they kept saying like he's gonna take a honey break and then my dad's just being a knock she's like, I'm pretty sure he's gonna go smoke some sigs out back. My mom's like, pat, shout out my dad's name is Matt too. And then the girl behind us goes, which he wasn't saying a lot enough for is Matt too. And then the girl behind us goes, which he wasn't saying loud enough for the kids to hear. But the girl behind us goes, so when the new poo comes out,

it's gonna be another adult in the same costume. And her mom's like, yeah honey, it's gonna be a different adult in the same costume. She figured it out. It was really cute. All that to say, maybe we don't do Santa then. I don't know. I think this year it doesn't really matter

because he's only one. We just gotta drill into our kids to keep it a secret because I don't want them ruining it for other kids. They will though, they'll be like, oh you believe Santa. I guess how do you get it? How do you teach an eight year old to keep a secret? Cause like I found out.

You're not gonna be way younger honey, be like for more. Yeah that's true. Cause when I was eight years old, that's when I found out, cause I drilled my parents. So maybe we tell our kids, like, because then they can't be like,

why does Santa come to the other kids and not to us? Because I was gonna say, we could just say. That was actually really, really sad for me. Because my parents always told me that poor kids in countries where they don't have a lot, they're like, yeah, Santa brings them food and water and clothes, and I thought, oh, that's so cool, that Santa helps everyone.

And then realizing that those kids don't have Santa. That really wrecked me. Oh my gosh, man, I never thought, this is the thing about parenting, that's hard. It's like, they say you need to like think about all this before you have kids. You can't think of everything. You can't.

No, we were just listening, it was actually Justin gave his podcast. And I actually, it was, I think they were discussing things that you have to be on the same page about before getting married. And I think Gay was making the point about how you had to be on the same page as like how to raise your kids.

And I would almost disagree though, because like there's so many things, like you need to be aligned on a lot of things, but there's so many things that you just can't think about. And you just have to learn healthy conflict resolution because it is impossible to get on the same page about every single thing before you marry someone. And people change too, you might change your opinion,

I might change my opinion. And you're allowed to change. And you're allowed to change. You don't have to say the same as you were and that's just not physically possible as a human. Well, also a lot of people that watch our podcast think we're getting divorced. Oh my gosh, dude, that made me so mad.

That should fit me. Maybe sad, honestly, that like that was it. I saw that comment. It doesn't mean you said it also leaves me relatively unfazed because I'm like, I know that we're not getting divorced. Yeah, but it's just kind of stupid because I'm like, I tell me you're not married without telling me that you're not married that you can't have a conversation and disagree with your spouse, but still love them so much.

Ride or die for them. So, I can't, I shouldn't say perfect, but be amazing partners for each other. Yeah. And committed for life, yet they see that and they're like, oh, I know everything I need to know. It's also one of those things too, because you only talk about happy things and you never talk about conflict and you try to paint this perfect persona online. But you're being false positive.

Exactly. Talks like positivity. It's toxic positivity, it's fake, you're not being relatable, it's not real. Okay, so then we talk about like real stuff and we talk about like, we are. Or even that serious. The fact that our skin has sugar.

We are so honest on these apps. Like we are so open and we don't fake it. And I think it's pretty easy to see that we are just 100% authentic on these apps. And because of that people are like, oh my gosh, they have conflict in their marriage. They're like, the vores or you know, like people just, they jump to the worst conclusion. It's like, do you, have you ever had conflict in your relationships? Um, who cares? I mean, beyond that, I'm like, you know,

I, you're my partner for life. I love you so much. I'm not gonna sit here and just be like, Matt, I love you so much. Like, oh my gosh. Yeah. Which I do, but then at that point, that's like, I don't know, I can tell you

that off camera too. I know. Anyway, I know anyway. Yeah, back to the parenting thing though, I kind of feel like what he might have meant by that was that like fundamentally like what you believe about raising children should probably be aligned before marriage.

And at least like are we going to have kids? That should be aligned also. That is true. But if one person is like, I'm never having children and the other person is like, I really wanna have children, that's probably reason to not get married. I would say.

Yeah, I would say so. The problem is that you're allowed to change your mind. Yeah, and that is what's scary though is because like, you could get married to someone that is like, I wanna have kids and then they change their mind, I wanna have kids. And that would be a hard thing to figure out. Therefore marriage boils down to committing to the other person.

Yeah. It boils down to choosing to make that commitment for life. And you have to be selfless. Like relationships to have a healthy relationship. You have to be selfless and I think in a world where we preach self-care and focusing on ourselves so much, I think people end up losing sight of how important relationships are to the human experience.

If we don't have relationships, like, what are we doing, right? It's depressing to not have community. It's depressing to not have friends. It's not a way to live. And sure, you might need to make decisions if you are in the community or you have friends that are hard, you might have to do things

that you don't like to do because that's just what relationships look like sometimes. It's not all about you, but I think that's a much more fulfilling life. For sure. This life is not meant to be lived alone. Truthfully. And I think something I think, like, can almost make me cry, which I just thought about it.

What? I think cry on this podcast since I... No, let's give it up. I think I've been a lot more harmoniously stable. You're a more, you're a homonally stable. Hey, it's okay to cry. Why can't I not talk? No, I'm just like, I'm too used to it.

Maybe I'm feeling better. Yeah, I'm just saying like, which I am feeling better. Good for you, I feel like that's awesome. I think you're becoming more grounded in the person that you are. I don't know. Oh, no, I never had to do the fact that it was truthful.

But you haven't been emotional of that much recently. So I think you're the hormone roller coaster ride that you're on, I think it's fading a little bit. Yeah, it's really leveling out. Is that feel better? Like, do you feel? I feel so much better. That's good.

I was actually just thinking that today, I was like, well, I'm starting to feel more like myself, that like anxiety, that sadness is like lifting up. So I feel like the three month mark for me is like getting good. What I was saying is that it could almost make me cry at how beautiful the fact is that like, truthfully I committed to you long before we got married. As soon as we started talking about

marriage and then thinking about it, obviously it wasn't formal, but I committed to this relationship and you know learning to resolve conflict together and choosing you over everything. Long before we got married, but even then, I don't even know if I'm saying this right. But basically, I fell in love with you as a kid. Like, you were literally 17. And then I fell in love with you as a young adult, like, leaving college.

And I love that version of Matt now. And now I'm falling in love with you as a dad and it's like, you're the same person. Yet I've seen so, I've seen you in so many different stages and I think that's so beautiful and it's only been four and a half years of marriage. And it's like how much more do I get to see you grow and change and evolve and love that version of you? Like hopefully 50 plus more, you know? Yeah, and so I think that's like really really really cool and that's like a beautiful thing about marriage. So you literally just said you were like I'm not crying, I'm not crying anymore. I'm like boom crying. But I'm just saying, I think that's like a really beautiful thing about doing this life together.

And like what a privilege that is to get to watch you like grow and change and evolve and like also walk through new struggles with you. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's really cool. Yeah. And we've made it through like really, we've made it through really hard things.

You've seen my boobs go from up here to down here? No. I've seen your abdomen cut open and a baby pulled out of your stomach. You've also seen it the other way. I've seen it the other way. Very crazy. So much blood both ways. But I've seen you like,

change our baby's diapers in the middle of the night. I've seen you sing them to sleep. I've night. I've seen you sing them to sleep. I've seen. I've seen you get pooped on. I've seen you become a social media sensation. And it's just like our lives are so crazy. It's like, this is what this stage looks like. Who knows what the next stage is going to look like.

And it's so cool that through each chapter, we'll have each other. And I love that. I love being your wife. Wow, I did not gonna look like, and it's so cool that through each chapter we'll have each other. And I love that. I love being your wife. Wow, I did not expect to get that like, that speech today. I just got really like emotional. I couldn't figure out how to put it into words now. Sometimes I struggle with words.

I just get touched because I literally just saw you transform into like us running around six flags when we were 17. Yeah. In 18. Crazy. Ah, and 18 crazy. I Love that I love that too. Okay, thank you dudes for watching this episode and as always 3 2 1