The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby - Worst Date Experiences, Relationship Red Flags & Exposing Our ICKS About Our Spouse

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

We asked you for your worst dating experiences and we received the craziest of stories. From finding your bed covered with breastmilk after doing it, a date who brought their mother along to men kissing on the first date when the really shouldn't have - this episode was hillarious. Make sure to rate our podcast and leave a review if you can, it really helps us out!

Arguments and fights are unavoidable. It happens to every couple. But if you're getting those, like right away, that is a major red flag. You feel sneeze and you will leave to not spit on your arm. I'm not gonna crash the car to get some buggers off my arm. Without warning, all of a sudden,

I have an open mouth and tongue all over my face. Oh! I'm thinking excited puppy looking your face. One thing led to another and we ended up in his bed. When we were done, he got up to shower and that was the moment when I realized that the bedsheets were totally wet. My boobies just decided that it would be nice to give him a little shower. Okay, before we get started with the podcast, please, please, please take 10 seconds of your time and leave us a review. Really do it right now.

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What's up dudes? And welcome back to the unplanned podcast. Woohoo. Today we have some fun stories to tell. I'm so excited. We had you guys submit your worst date experiences on our unplanned podcast Instagram. Shout out to everyone that did that.

If you're not following the Instagram, we'll put a link in the description. Also guys, poor Matt does not feel good right now. I feel bad. Well you know what? I feel bad for you because you are nearing the end of the pregnancy and I feel like you probably don't feel good all the time. So I know that I don't feel good but I feel bad that you're you're also not feeling good.

Yeah I don't feel great. Yeah. Most of the time. You look so cute though your bumps bump in today. You look really cute in your dress. But you can see my belly moving. It looks like a prosthetic. Seriously, your belly has popped so much

that it doesn't even look real. But it's so cute. Wow, I'm seeing all those kicks. You can literally say, this kid is crazy. I keep saying it Griffin. Our first one is gonna be our calm, sweet guy. And then I think that the second baby is gonna be our wild card. Yeah, I think you're right. And I think think that the second baby is going to be our wild card.

Yeah. I think you're I think you're right. And I think you're going to look alike too. We had an ultra. Yeah, I think they're gonna look a lot like. Yeah. We had an ultrasound yesterday. Gosh, was that yesterday? Oh, yeah. Our days have been jam packed. But it was so sweet. But he was just going crazy the whole time. So he couldn't see his face. he was just squirming and kicking, and this nographer was like, he is very active,

which of course is so reassuring. But I'm like, yeah, I wanna have an ultrasound going on like in the middle of the night, when she's like literally doing backflips, it feels like. Oh my God. I wanna see what's actually going on in there. But. Totally, yeah, we've had families saying with us,

Abby's parents are about to move in with us when I have her parents living actually in this podcast studio. This will be one of their rooms that they'll have. We'll probably like put a TV in here for them to get co-z. Yeah, people type, purpose will get to film our podcast and they'll get to, you know, chill out in here. Yeah, my dad's also going to work. He's going to be working online. Literally. Literally in the corner. That's going to be plenty of space for

that. Yeah, we need to get one of those standing desk. We do need to do that. Oh, that's gonna be playing a space for us. Yeah, that's gonna be great. We need to get one of those standing desks for you. We do need to do that. Oh my gosh. There's a lot of things going on with the baby moon. We're taking a trip to LA for some exciting things. Like, all of this is happening and we're also having a baby in like eight weeks.

Also, let us know in the comments like how you've been liking the recent episodes. We had some big guests on the show. We're gonna have another big guest coming on here soon. And we just want your feedback. I'm gonna know how you guys are enjoying the podcast. And if you could leave us a review, it really does so much for the show

and encourages us to keep on going. So definitely leave a review. You can do that on Spotify or Apple podcasts. And that just really helps us out. This man is going crazy in my belly. Before we start, I thought it'd be funny if we kind of told some of our date stories. Oh my gosh.

Here's the thing. When you've been together for seven years, we've got some crazy stories. OK. We've had so many dates that it's kind of like hard for certain ones to stick out, you know? I know. But something that I think is sweet, that was like a reoccurring thing on dates that I used to do, is that back

in like high school and college, budgets were tight. And so for date night, Matt would go to the dining hall at our university. Oh, I would see him eat a pre dinner before our dinner date. So he didn't have to spend as much dinner to get full. Well, I was just, I was so hungry at dinner and I didn't want to break the bank to,

I don't know, have to pay for a date. So rather than like me eating a ton of food because I eat a lot of food, I would go to our dining hall and college and eat before the date. And then I could just enjoy it. We'd go to a sushi place and I could have like one sushi roll and we would just talk and chat because sometimes if I have food in front of me, I just all I can think about is the food. I know that's actually another reason why you did that

because he does this, you do this now, like even now. But you will just like scarf down your food, you don't even look up, you barely take a breath for air. I don't know, I don't know. When you have food, it's like you've gone through some traumatic event where you were starved. Well, I grew up with brothers and when the food was gone, the food was gone, so if you ate faster,

you got to eat more. And not that I grew up in poverty or anything, but I definitely, I had a good childhood, but I just, yeah, we all love to eat. I still love to eat, but I would just eat really, really fast. That's why I tell him often when we're eating, I'm like, I'm not gonna take your food. Like I'm not gonna take it off your plate.

You eat like I'm going to, like, just like snatch it away at any moment. And so you would do that so you could focus and talk on the date, which is really sweet, but then also of course to save money. What would you say is one of our worst day experiences though, because that's not like necessarily a worst date. I see I can't think of like anything in particular.

I can think of something in particular. Well obviously when we're on a fight during a date, but like those are not. Well yeah, no, but we this year year, we went to this fancy restaurant. And let me tell you guys, like we love going to fancy restaurants every now and again. It might be expensive, but, you know, if you only go, you know, twice a year,

it's worth, you know, maybe a hundred bucks. Hey, if we're really gonna send it, maybe even like a hundred, fifty or two hundred on a really nice dinner, because it's like, it's all about the experience. It's all about just like sharing that special moment together. Okay, but there's a difference between a nice dinner and then's all about the experience. It's all about just sharing that special moment together. Okay, but there's a difference between a nice dinner and then gourmet.

I know. And so we accidentally ended up at this place. That was gourmet. We show up, they didn't have any prices on the menus. That's red flag number one. I served the panic immediately. Okay. I, and you know, I was thinking, okay, hey,

if it's, maybe it'll be 200, because I think then not one of the nicest thinner. One of the nicest dentists we ever had was probably like 100. So it's like, hey, this place might be 200, but it's gonna be all right. I have to set the scene though. We're at this table alone outside in this courtyard.

There is not a soul at this restaurant. I thought we were gonna get murdered. I felt, and there's like weird 90s music playing. It felt like, it did feel like a murder mystery movie. And we have our private, like he was kind of like a butler, honestly. It was weird. It maybe kind of feel uncomfortable.

And he was just like at this table, there's only one option and it's the five course meal. What would you like? And we're like, we'll take that, I guess. That's our option. And so then the plates start coming. But I think the most painful thing is all the portion sizes were so tiny.

Like I'm talking like tiny is literally like one bite and they brought portions. Like one crustini. Yeah, and then bring it to you every like 20 to 30 minutes. So we're there, so hungry, like eating a bite every 20 minutes, and it was torture, okay. And the bites were less than appealing. Exactly, because they were serving us bone marrow and liver.

They gave us like, the liver was the worst. You know, technically they're not supposed to have liver. Yikes. I googled that. What about fish eggs? And we have like fish eggs. Yeah, you might not have to have that either. Caviare.

Caviare. We had a raw beef swordfish. And the swordfish was gross. I thought the swordfish might taste good. It sounded good. It did not taste good. It was one of those fancy places that actually serves you like sorbet before dinner. Like before your main course.

But I think it was the most annoying thing. The best part of that meal was the dessert and they only gave us one display. I think what shocked me though is when we saw the bill. And that's where I literally started laughing. I was so shocked. Wait, man, tell them what I was doing though. We were right next to a fireplace. Abby was literally chucking the food in the fireplace.

I was like, I was like, We were just like cracking jokes. Honestly, we were having a good time because of how horrible it was. Like the experience was so horrible that we were like laughing about it. And then, and three hours later, we get the bill. We looked at the bill, three hours later, after we rushed them, they were offended that we wanted to get the bill, because we had to get home to put grip in the sleep,

because it was like nine o'clock or maybe it's like nine thirty. And we get the bill and it was for five hundred dollars. That's not a range. $500 for a dinner. That's like a grocery bill for two weeks. I don't even understand how you can charge that much money for a dinner. It was, if here's the thing, I wanted to throw up. No food is that good for $500 for one meal, but let alone this food. It looks like maybe, maybe if it was like the absolute best

any experience I've ever had my whole entire life, maybe I would have been like, okay, you know what? Yes, this is out freaking out, Rages, but this was like an incredible experience. No, you could not pay me enough to go back to this place. It was horrible. I think we just learned that gourmet dining isn't, we're not cut out for that.

I don't know though, because we've had some pretty fancy food and we liked it a lot. But this was a different level. I feel like this is more for the experience. Whereas I think if you're like, yeah, like if you're gourmet diner, you go for the experience where we really go for the food. And we go to come out full. Yeah, but all that to say, we're not going to get into your worst state experiences.

I'm really excited for these. Yeah, thank you to everyone who sent these in. I'm so, we haven't seen them yet, so. Yeah, we had to going to get into your worst state experiences. I'm really excited for these. Yeah. Thank you to everyone who sent these in. I'm so we haven't seen them yet. So yeah, we had to depict these out front. So, you didn't do it. So this first one, this person would like to remain anonymous. First date was a guy I'd met before, but didn't remember until halfway through the date. We went ice skating and saw Christmas lights, which was fine.

Then at the end, he kissed me like three times and it was so awkward. Then afterwards, he was saying how it was his best kiss yet, but it was fine. Then at the end he kissed me like three times and it was so awkward. Then afterwards he was saying how it was his best kiss yet, but it was horrible. Always don't kiss in the first date, guys, unless you can clearly tell the girl wants to LOL. Okay, Rep, we kissed on the first date. Yeah, we definitely, yeah, we definitely broke that rule. I don't know, it was the right move though. Even though our first kiss was horrible, it was electric though. Here's the thing, it's not about like when you have the first kiss, it's about how it goes. And the thing is I think the first time,

it can be bad but be really good because the first time like the actual first time can be bad but still be good, you know? You see what I'm saying? Like our first... Yeah, like if things are going well, it doesn't matter how the actual kiss is. It's like you're gonna think in your head

it's just like magical and special. Yeah, it's, if you like really like a person. But clearly things weren't tracking before. Yeah. It already. But also it's incredibly weird to reflect upon the first kiss on that same date still. Yeah. To be like, that was such a good kiss. I know. That's really weird. That is really weird. That's pretty dorky too. Oh my gosh. That's uncomfortable. Yeah, that's but hey Christmas lights and ice skating That's pretty romantic and sweet. That's like a hallmark movie. That is that's cute We've done that before we need to go ice skating again. I miss those days. We used to do that in college I'm terrible, but I think it's fun. You look so cute. I have pictures of you and your and your leggings like you

You had these like cute leggings on and a top. Yeah, and spring feel. I was thinking I thought you looked so hot. And I would look at those pictures all the time. Like, wow, my girlfriend's so freaking beautiful. That's cute. Do you know that sometimes I get a little jealous when you look at old pictures of me? Really?

Even though it's still me, I'm like, don't look at me pre-pregnancy right now. Really? Interesting. I think it's just fun to like. I feel like you're cheating on current me with past me. I just like to reminisce on like past experiences. I just saw, oh my gosh, this about melted my heart almost made me tear up.

I was going through our SD cards before filming the podcast and I found all this footage of us back in October as a family with Griffin and seeing how little he was and him laughing for the first time and then like it was just it just melted my heart I didn't even know what to do. I almost went and showed you but then I didn't want you to cry. Oh was that around Halloween? Yeah. I was wearing the black outfit and using his little pumpkin. We were at a myrtle beach.

Oh sweet. So sweet. What's the next one? This one's from Brooklyn. I've been super nervous about the state. We've been together for nine months. That's kind of where she's nervous after nine months. Yeah. Anyway, and things were okay for the most part. He was always jealous of me talking to guys as friends, but I didn't care. He had this one friend who was a girl that made me uncomfortable. We both agreed that he wouldn't talk about her around me. Then we went on a date to a Holocaust Museum and things were okay. During this date, he decided that he was going to start texting her. He told me about it and I was a

little bit upset. He tells her that I was upset about it. And that he was mad at me for it. For a while, he wouldn't tell me that what he said. And he got so mad at me that he decided to leave me alone and walk away the middle of the Holocaust Museum. And I started bawling my eyes out. Let's just say that relationship didn't last very much longer. Wow. Wait, why are you texting another girl while you're on a date actively with? Holocaust Museum and I started bawling my eyes out. Let's just say that relationship didn't last very much longer. Wow Wait, why are you texting another girl while you're on a date actively with? With your current nine-month girlfriend. Geez. Oh my gosh. Here's my question like if you're not gonna be exclusive then why even why even like entertain that? Yeah

Why do you even ask her out? Yeah, like ask her to be your girlfriend. I will say though I think that back in the day people tended to go on more dates and it wasn't necessarily exclusive. You could just go on dates with people and it wasn't a big deal and I feel like now- No, but does it bend together for now? That's true. They were together nine months. That's different than going on dates.

But also, it seems like this relationship was doomed already because they were both already jealous and like- Yeah. Feeling weird about- I don't know. I don't remember us ever going through any jealousy things because did you? You definitely didn't, did I? Wasn't jealous, no. You honestly had a lot of real friends.

You were actively going on dates when I asked you out for the first time. That's the thing I was going on dates, but it wasn't exclusive. I feel like people know. I think the guy's not that is more exposed because that guy was pissed. And I think that in his mind, you guys were kind of, I don't know.

That's his fault because he asked me to be his girlfriend and I said no. That's true. That is true. I think that we should bring back casual dating culture. Were you cuddling with this guy? Would you cuddle on the couch? There might have been a couple cuddles. Did he ever squeeze your tush? No, I would never relax.

Did you flap in the face? I didn't laugh at him kiss me. No, I remember I actually touched your butt and then I started making the joke call me Nemo. That's disgusting. I made the joke call me Nemo. I feel so uncomfortable like you did that. I said call me Nemo because he touched the butt,

whatever, that was part of the Nemo movie. Remember that? Why did you think that joke was okay? You put that on Instagram. I put it on Instagram. Nobody got it though. It was an inside joke. I thought it was hilarious.

Baby, I feel like people probably figure that out and they were like, that's weird. Now I feel weird about that. I'm sorry. That's my worst date story. I'm just kidding. Oh my gosh. Okay, do you want to read this one from Beth? Yes, we got Beth.

I went on a date with a guy. He asked me to bring the odorant with me because he didn't have a shower because he was out the night before and stayed at a friend's house. He then showed up and the same clothes he had worn the day before. Whoa, and to bed last night, he stink.

Okay, that's disgusting. He then got absolutely wasted. We're talking like 25 beers. Wow. What? That's crazy. I didn't even know that you could drink that much. And piss. Well Matt, you can't drink one without. Oh my God, stop. 25 beers wow what that's crazy. I didn't know that you could drink that much and piss well Matt

You can't drink one without you. Oh my god stop. I can drink a beer I don't drink often but when I do usually what it is like when you do you get fun though Like you get a little bit more like laughing and silly. I am not a lightweight. I am a regular way Matt I'm regular no man. You have one beer. You'll be like you guys feel it. I mean not a lightweight. I am a regular weight. Matt. I'm regular. No, Matt, you have one beard and you'll be like, do you guys feel it? I'm crazy without alcohol. Let's be honest. I know.

That's why alcohol has a fast effect on you. He pissed in the street twice. So yeah, that was pretty bad. Oh, and he missed his last train home, so I had to drive him. Wow. Trains. I know that people are still taking trains these days. This is the worst.

I bet you they either live in the city or they live in Europe because I know like trains are big in Europe. That is a terrible thing. Why would you drink? Oh my god. Body odor is something that I would have zero tolerance for. That's disgusting. Zero tolerance.

Man, okay, question for you though. You're a good hygiene. Thank you. Question for you though. Like, you always get on me about like breath. Oh yeah. But like, was that an issue me about, like, breath. Oh, yeah. But like, was that an issue in the beginning of a stating? Or did you not even notice?

Because like, I have, like, nothing's changed. You know, I think I've told you this before. There was one specific time your breath almost made me throw up when we were kissing. Wow. Well, first our dating. Oh, was it because we had like ice cream and then it was like this. Yeah, it was ice cream sandwich. You were very sensitive to that though.

To breath? Yeah, you were. Oh, yeah, I am. Yeah, I am. Honestly honestly don't get too close Me because I didn't brush my teeth this morning. You didn't brush your teeth today What why not why is cuz I was still drinking my coffee on it's doing my makeup And then I don't want to brush my teeth when I had done my makeup Because I didn't work wipe it off. Hey, you want to know a secret? What I don't brush my teeth in the morning

Yeah, I know that I do know that for a fact I don't know I just get started with my day and then I'm like off off-rich, and then I end up using mouthwash, and then I brush my teeth at night. If you don't, okay, if you're not brushing your teeth at night, that's disgusting. You can get dead. You're gonna get gin divided.

You can't go to bed without brushing your teeth. That to me is just like- No, that's serial killer stuff. But what is weird is like, if you brush your teeth and then you go on to eat a full breakfast in a coffee, like the tooth, you solve the taste of toothpaste. No, not really. It's kind of gross.

No. Sure. All right, what do we got next? This one's from Rachel. Not worst day, but one time I had a guy I barely knew, just kissed one night and talked for a few months after. We didn't live near each other. Text me the early morning of his wedding,

saying he wished he was with me. Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Here's that for the kiss. Figured he had to have too much of drink and sent it. I didn't know it was a wedding day until I saw it on Facebook later that day. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. What a crazy story. Did you have any thoughts like that ever for a new wedding day? No. I definitely got cold feet. I think we both did. I got cold feet the day before, right before the rehearsal. I think you're a wedding day. No. I definitely got cold feet. I think we both did. I got cold feet the day before,

like right before the rehearsal. I think you're just like holy eff. Like I'm locking this in. Yeah. You know, there's no going back. Crazy. It's a huge limit. But like I was thinking about this.

I've been seeing a lot of TikToks about, like things that people would change about their weddings. I cannot think of one thing I would change about our wedding. Our wedding was really fun. I cannot think of one thing. Yeah, I our wedding. Our wedding was really fun. I cannot think of one thing. Yeah, I agree. Your mom did a great job planning. Yeah, it's probably when mom planned

to just bring it to the head stuff. But then also, I said this even then. I was like, if at the end of the day, I'm married to Matt Howard, it'll be the perfect day. And so now I literally am like, they was perfect. Yeah. But I wouldn't have changed anything, it was perfect. I think it's just scary because, I don't know,

even with like friends in your life, if you have a really close friend, maybe one day you part separate ways and you go your own directions, but with the marriage, it's not like you really do that. You're kind of in it. I mean, even your kids, I guess a huge comment,

you will be a parent for the rest of your life. True. But they move out. Yeah. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna cry, I think about that. We gotta move on. I know. That one's from I'm gonna cry. I think about that. We got to move on. I know that one's from anonymous Anonymous I went on a date with a guy just to find out he was he was a kleptomania That is it's where you obsessively steal things. Oh my gosh

Install full sets of silverware from every restaurant he goes to wow He told me about it after the date while showing me a full box of stones overware that he keeps under his bed Okay, wow. He told me about it after the day, while showing me a full box of stones everywhere that he keeps under his bed. Okay. Wow, that is weird. That is weird. I understand it's an illness. Like I understand they have something wrong.

I'm like, what the freak's wrong with you? Like get that taken care of, that's not yours. Ah, that's sad. Have you ever stolen anything? I actually haven't. Other than if you would, if you considered getting a water cup at a restaurant and getting soda, I've done that a couple times. I still got my mom.

My mom, if they don't have lemon to put in her water, she'll put some lemonade in the cup and then put water in it. She just knows she's through. I'm like, you know that feeling, right? She's like, no, it's not they don't have lemon. Okay, this is also from anonymous. When to the fair with a guy I'd been talking to for a while but hadn't kissed yet. This was in high school.

We do all the normal fair things, play the games, eat the food, ride the rides. At the end he was like, want to go to the on the Ferris wheel to end the night. So Ferris wheel ride ensues. It was a beautiful night so I leaned my head back closed my eyes and soak it all in without warning I all of a sudden have an open mouth and tongue Over my face Think excited puppy looking your face It was so horrible after what felt like forever he sits up and says well that was awkward

To make things worse. My sandal fell off in the process and hit a corny in the head. Oh, no. He gave it back with this awful knowing to smirk on his face. It was so terrible. The worst part is we did it for like six more months. She's, I don't understand how that could possibly happen. You want to know something embarrassing is that you said the same thing after your kit for its kiss to the moon.

Yeah, I did say it was awkward afterwards. But it wasn't that bad. It was just a sweet little smooch. It was a lecture cool. But this guy probably, he probably said, well, this is awkward, probably because she was so caught off guard and didn't like kiss back.

That just makes me uncomfortable to like visualize that, you know? Yeah, I pictured like, I know. Yeah, I, I don't like that. That's so bad. And on a Ferris wheel, she can't get away. Yeah, I pictured like I know Yeah, I I don't like that That's so bad and on affairs real she can't get away. She stuck. Yeah That's awful. That is a horrible situation. Yeah, a corny in the head Okay, this is from Kaylyn She said we had been dating for a year before I had the courage to go poop at his house

We were hanging out with his little sister nephew when I snuck off and went into his bathroom to poop, well his toilet decided to act up and not flush. So I tried flushing it like 10 times and decided to start flooding. No, it wasn't clogged, just not working. And before I knew it, the toilet poop water was all over his bathroom floor. His little sister, my now sister-in-law, came and knocked at the door to which I responded, go get your brother. I didn't know what else to do. He walked in to find me cleaning the floor with his towels,

and he wasn't worried that I had just pooped in the toilet flooded, but more upset that I had chosen to use his towel to clean the mess. That is so disgusting. You're bigger than towels. That is weird. Yeah, I mean, like don't use a clean towel like that. Like find some paper towels or get like a used nasty towel.

That's like a rag used on a car. I don't know. He came back with the trash bags. We could throw the bath mats away and towels away. I was more than fighting so embarrassed at the time, but it's a good story now and we laugh about it all the time. Don't care if it's not, Mr. Knot. He still put a ring on it and gave me two cute babies.

Oh. Isn't it kind of precious how like, when you're dating things are so embarrassing, but when you're married, it just gets, it's like, oh, whatever. I literally pooped in front of, I literally pooped my pants in front of you while we were dating.

Remember that? Yeah, you did like, those green shorts. I like went to fart and it wasn't a fart. You were a green dog. And then I had to run upstairs. Yeah. That was so embarrassing. You.

Yeah. Well, you did. But you still married me. You cleaned poop off of me. Oh, I did clean poop off of you. That's right. After your surgery. I've never talked about that.

Oh my gosh, should we talk about it? It's fine. It's just, it's still embarrassing. But like, I wasn't embarrassed because it was so sad. You were like you weren't so much pain after your hernia surgery Yeah, they were pumping me with mirror laks. I think did you did you fart or like No, I didn't even know I had to go like things were so weird down there like I so I had a hernia repair And then it obviously hurts to go number two and plus also all the anesthesia conceits you. So I was having so much mirror lax and I accidentally pooped all over myself and mad at cleaning

it up. And you had to clean it off of me. It's all good. See if that happened or didn't I would have been mortified. It wasn't great even though we were married but it was a lot more comfortable. Oh my gosh. Okay this is from anonymous. So this guy DM'd me asking for a date. I dotted a five out of acceptor not because it was a random person on the internet, but at the same time life was getting pretty boring. Finally I accepted, not looking at his account and deciding if he was a catfish. But puts a condition that I would bring my BFF.

I told him that he could bring his two. When I got to the restaurant where we agreed we would meet he was there with his mother. What? He was sending her his best friend. Oh my god. They added that it was his mother. I was shocked. And me and my best friend got out of there as soon as we could.

He asked me to get a week later. I haven't responded yet two years later. Ha ha. Don't bring your mother on a date. What in the world? That is just foreshadowing for a terrible relationship with your mother-in-law if you would ever get married Yeah, dude, the moms I can't let go of their sons. Yeah, that's uncomfortable So embarrassing. She's my best friend. I'm like not that way at all. I feel like I just decided to be, I don't know. I feel bad. I forget to call my parents a lot of times.

Well, your mom's also super good about like respecting boundaries and our marriage and stuff. Totally. Yeah, you're right. But. She like, I mean, she fully like when you turn 18, she was kind of like, okay, well, yeah. She knew that her role as a mother

had shifted at that point. And I really did was kind of like, okay, well, yeah, she knew that her role as a mother had shifted at that point. And I really did enjoy college like being independent, getting to be my own person, going off with you and not having, I mean, I don't know, like my parents are great, but they would, they would tell me what to do. Like I lived in their house and they would just like, yeah, order me to do things and I worked her for me. Yeah, well, they like, they had expectations for you. Totally, but it was just nice not having to, to deal with that and I could Worked her for me. Yeah, well they like, had expectations for you. Totally, but it was just nice not having to deal with that

and I could just make my own decisions. And the nice thing about making your own decisions too is if you mess up, it's all on you. So you can't blame your parents, you can't blame other people, it's just, oh, I messed up, that's on me, I gotta figure it out. Yeah. What do we got?

Okay, I went on a small date to the Mexican restaurant in my town and this guy, he ordered the biggest meal and then ate and kept being on the phone and then just walked out and then I had to pay $50 for both meals. Wow. Okay, that's so horrible. That's so bad.

That could have gone wrong went wrong. That's so bad. Like if you had a guy. On your phone eating and then make her pay the bill. Okay, like, look, I'm not, I think that guys and girls, the guy doesn't need to pay every time. I mean, it depends on kind of the background you come from and kind of the approach you wanna have,

but just being a bit, but going on a date, being the guy and just walking out, like that is not okay at all. Like if anything, if he didn't like the girl or just wasn't the right fit, like if anything, they could have split it. But like to make her pay, that's ridiculous. Okay, I think it should be whoever asks to on the date.

That's a good point. That's actually a really good point. And most of the time it's the guy that asks for on the date, so it's like it should be. But then also if you've been dating two years. That's different. That's different. Yeah, that's different.

Then you can like trade off because you can't, I don't know, if you've been together a long time, I think to put the financial burden of every single date on the guy might be a lot, but yeah, I totally agree with you. That's a really good point. If you ask somebody on a date, you're paying for the date. Yeah, it's kind of like if you invite people to dinner, it's like you should probably pay, I don't know.

Oh, totally. All right, here's the next one. It's a group date. We're taking a swing dancing class, then going dancing. That's so fun. Sound, oh, it's, it sounds fun, right? Oh my God. It was not.

They were all friends and knew each other except for me. Whoa. Which is not my kind of scene, LOL. The whole night was just awkward and I couldn't wait to get home. Then of course, wanted to get food after. So this day is just getting uncomfortably long. Finally, I'm getting dropped off. One of his friends was driving as he's walking me up to the door. His friend away. I was trying to be nice and say thank you I had fun and buy then he puts out his hands and goes we're gonna kiss Whoa, I was stunned and in shock so I didn't know how to stop it. Oh, he comes in with this mouth wide open It was awful. I pull away shortly after and say bye and he goes one more for the road

What and after and say bye and he goes one more for the road. No. What? And who did with this mouth wide open again? It was terrible. No. Then leaves and I never went out with him again. I'll all my friends know him as open mouth. Oh, she's good. Okay, that's so terrible because you know him and his buddy were like, I'm gonna go up to the door with her and like you just drive away,

give us some privacy because I'm gonna plant one on her. Like you know that he was scheming with that guy. Yeah, that's so not cool. That's so good. And to try to make the first kiss and open mouth kiss, like, come on, come on. Like, that's not, that's stupid. Anybody doing that is kind of weird.

Like, don't you warm up to that. Like, I feel like us being married, like, if, you know, the, if the steam has gotten pretty hot, you know, if it's, if the mood has shifted, maybe we, maybe we just send it for an open mouth right away. But like to make your first kiss with somebody and open mouth kiss, no, that's just like a, that's a heart note. That's a heart note. That is so gross.

And then to also be like, I'm going to kiss you now. That's weird. That's like you're really crazy and you're really weird. No, you just, no. Do you think the guy should ask before they kiss? You know what really depends. I feel like if the body language is right, if the mood is right, then maybe you don't need to,

but then I think so many people are nervous on their first hit that they have no idea how to read the room, right? Yeah, I think if you're, that's the thing. Did I ask you to kiss you? That's actually really good. Did I just send it? Did I ask you?

You didn't ask me. I think I just sent it. I think you asked me, did I ask you? You didn't ask me. I think I just sent it. I think you asked me. No, you didn't. You just kissed me. So what's your opinion on that? Honestly, I think it's a good idea to ask because, okay, if you've kissed before, then no, you don't need to ask.

But you haven't kissed before. Maybe ask because maybe you're just misreading it because you're feeling nervous. That would have been so funny though, if you would have dodged the kiss, because I put my hand on your chin and we went in for it, it was really sweet, it was still awkward but it was sweet.

But can you imagine if you wouldn't have been ready and you would have just been moved your face? That would have been so funny. I think it's a good idea to ask honestly. Because we were just talking with friends literally at literally a lesson a week ago, and he asked her and she said no. Hey, real quick, if you could please leave our podcast review, it would mean the world to us.

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Okay, thanks. Back to the episode. Okay, so now we've got Ali. Ali said, this was a double date. I went on with my husband, boyfriend at the time, and another couple. And the other guy was hitting on me the entire time. And it wasn't subtle either. It was very clear that I wasn't interested, but I was polite about it.

I texted my friend afterward and said, I'm so sorry he turned out to be so disrespectful. And she blamed me, worst date, 100%. We were so uncomfortable, my husband's for off double dates forever. Wow. They were married at the time and he's flirting with her? No, no, no. So it was boyfriend at the time.

So I guess it was just a double date and the guy I was hitting on her the whole time when the double date. That is so weird. That is so uncomfortable. Why would you hit on somebody while they're with somebody else? Like if you're gonna do it and it's not okay to do it, like do it when their significant other is not around,

but to hit on them. That's a disrespectful. Like what? Would you say something if someone did that? I'd be like back the F off, dude. Like what's your deal? I would probably leave. Like I'd be like, I'm out.

Like this is weird. You're being weird. I would talk to the person. Well one time we had a friend of ours slapped you on the butt and I confronted him. That made me really mad. Yeah. And I think like we haven't really talked to that guy since.

No, that was like so. Well, you got, you called him out and then he like didn't say sorry and so we just like never hung out again. Yeah. Cause we were like, that's not cool, that's not funny. Like he was trying to be funny and silly and stuff. Like it wasn't like an aggressive, like, super uncomfortable one, but it was still completely uncalled for.

You don't slap one other. And we were friends, but not that close. Also, none of your friends could be that close with me. That would be okay for them to be on the butt. Nobody could. I don't think I can't think of anybody that could slap you on the butt, other than maybe, maybe your brother,

but even then that would be weird, you know? That wouldn't be that weird, honestly. Really? You slap your brother on the butt Yeah, yeah, okay, I also pants him sometimes Okay, oh yeah Pulled his pants down his plane Oculus. Oh, yeah, that's a classic. Okay, pick me up for church We had went on a hiking date previously because we had mutual friends

But he went but we went to church where he put his arm around me and everything super complimentary. But afterwards we get into the car and he said he wasn't sure about where this was headed because he realized he was attracted to the girl sitting in front of us at church. And had matched with her on hinge before and never pursued that. So he was interested in pursuing it and realized that sitting there. He wanted to still hang out afterwards and I was like, um, no, please take me home. Imagine dropping that bomb and being like, so you were going to brunch now? Yikes. Yeah, why would you do that actively on a date? I think there's, we're ignoring the simple fact that if you, if your feelings have changed

or if anything has, you know, if your feelings have changed, or if anything has changed throughout your dating experience, you don't need to be on a date while you drop this news. You can just say, hey, we need to have a conversation. Exactly. You can say, hey, let's have a conversation, lay the news, make a clean break, and be done. But even that, if it's just a simple date,

I feel like there is this certain culture of overthinking and being like, I don't know where this is headed or there's directions, just like just say simple date, I feel like there is this like certain culture of like over thinking and like being like, I don't know where this is headed or there's directions. Just like, just say, hey, like keep it more casual. Just be like, I think that, you know, I want to pursue other people at this time. Like, thanks for the date that we had. I enjoyed it and like, that no need to be exclusive at this time. Yeah, totally. Keep it light, keep it lighthearted. Oh yeah. I was a single mom of a seven-month-old baby

when I match with a super nice guy on Tinder. Okay, first of all, I wonder how old this was because like, Tinder's not really an app where you date anymore. It's more of just a hook-up app. But anyway, he was super sweet and fine with the fact that I already had a child. After two weeks of talking, we decided to meet.

He was my first ever Tinder date, so I was super nervous. Can I say something? What's up? It's kind of annoying how it's like the women have to be like almost carry it like baggage like having a kid. Whereas like I feel like whoever the baby daddy here is not going around on dating apps and being like oh by the way I have a kid. I will say this though and this is weird. I don't know why it's this way, but I feel like a woman would almost like it if a guy had a kid.

Because we like to nurture in general. I think that's like almost attractive. Like, oh my gosh, you have a kid. Like, I love that, but I think. And I feel like, oh, baggage. Not necessarily, but I would say more so than women, right? Like, if a guy is looking for a partner and he already has a kid,

I think that would just make women's hearts melt. Seeing them as a dad, because they're like, oh my gosh, I want you to be a father to my babies. But no, you're totally right. It's definitely different for men and women. And that's interesting. That's annoying.

We met at his place. I know, I should have been a little bit more careful with that. And one thing led to another and we ended up in his bed. Where's the baby? Where's the baby? When we were done, he got up to shower. And that was the moment when I realized that the bed sheets were totally wet. And half a second later, I realized that it was my breast milk. At some point, my boobies just decided that it would be nice

to give him a little shower. Oh my gosh, I can't even explain how barest I was. I apologized and he just replied, yeah, I noticed. I thought that I'll never see him again and we were a little upset because of that. Flash forward to this exact moment. I have two more kids with him. Oh, we have our own place, steady jobs and a few dogs. Wouldn't change a thing. Ah!

That's hilarious. Yeah, it would be kind of, I think that was kind of sweet though, because he like didn't say anything. He just like got to shower. Wow, that's crazy. That is insane. He just like got to shower. Wow. That's crazy. That is insane. Has that ever happened to you?

I don't know. I've never, I've never had like the milks never got on the sheets, but it's gotten in other places. Moving right along. That's impressive girl. Go with the milk supply. Totally. Okay.

This one's from Bruno. Well, never have I ever been on a date, but because there was one guy that left me waiting for hours, I got home after two or three hours waiting. And then I found out that he was with his parents and brother at the beach. So I accepted a reschedule later the date. She agreed to reschedule the date.

The second time he canceled right before the hour that we marked, I never spoke with him again after that. Wow. Okay, well that doesn't mean you have to give up on dating altogether, girl. Totally. You just once sour apple in the patch. That's right. But yeah, that's annoying flakiness. And if you're gonna be like that on the first date, it's kind of like, okay, I don't, you're already setting the tone. This should be, that's the thing. I feel like ladies, listen, the guys will, they will show their true colors right off the bat. If they, that's when they're going to be their best.

Their first date is they're going to be on their best behavior. Yeah. And if they're already striking out, it's like, okay, let's just not even. It's not going to get better. It's not going to get better. If you're in a relationship and the relationship's not going well and you're like, well, we made it through the hard stuff. So it's gonna get better now. Are getting in like bad fights at the beginning?

That is a major red flag. Yeah. Major red flag. Because like, look, arguments and fights are unavoidable. They will happen. We will happen to every couple. It will happen to literally every couple. But if you're getting those, like right away,

that's a huge red flag and you should sprint away from that person. Yeah, it's not gonna work out. Cause I feel like in the early stages of our relationship, it was all sunshine and rainbows, dude. Yeah. It was incredible. And anyway.

We still have sunshine. We do, we still have some 10 rainbows. But there's still some clouds. That's right. So this is from Helen, this is worst date story at a male friend, childhood friend from school. We used to go out on dates as dinners. Dinner, cinema, well one day he texted me, we're on our way.

I get confused because we usually went out alone. Turns out his new girlfriend had insisted on coming, she was furious, she told him off, slapped him, and yelled at him on the way to the restaurant. He had only booked a table for two and only had two movie tickets booked. I'm a little confused but we'll keep reading. We got to the restaurant and the waitress is a bit slow so she doesn't pick up on the situation. We get a small table, have to squeeze around and she only gives us two menus. The girlfriend was still furious so she wouldn't let me look at the menu. I ordered from memory, thank god I checked

out the menu online before I left home. and dinner was full of awkward silence when she wasn't telling my friend off I ate my main course in a hurry and excuse myself in the bathroom I called one of my other friends and asked her to save me five minutes later She called me pretending something terrible had happened and I could leave the two lovebirds behind and dash out It's kind of weird. That's on your friend. Yeah, whoa. Why did he think it was okay to take you on a date with a girl?

Totally. I guess he just thought that they were friends and I don't know. It just, something happens. I think once you're in a relationship, like it's harder to have friends that are of the opposite sex and it's sad that it is that way, but it just can get weird.

And so maybe he was hoping that they could just still be friends, but clearly. That is a hot topic. Do you think that you can be friends with someone of the opposite sex while you're in a relationship? Yes, but like you're not gonna go get dinner and a movie with them.

You know, that's not really the thing to do with your friend. So what does that mean? Like what can you do? You can just talk. Can you text one on one? I don't know. It's hard, because it's like, if they're single, if they're in a relationship, it makes it different,

I feel like. But if they're also single, then I feel like it's kind of like, ugh, not a good idea. This one is from Annie. She says, oh, where do I start? He told me within 10 minutes, he wanted to meet my mom. Oh, I think they're British. So they could bond over the fact that they both have Exima. Okay. He called me posh because I went to uni. Uni would be you know, dude, totally British. Wait, no, I think they're British because if they say uni, like that's totally like a British thing.

I paid my own way through with jobs so did not appreciate being told I was handed it on a plate. He spent 30 minutes telling me how much he hates his job in a call center. Then he told me that we're hiring and if I got hired there he would get a bonus. Then he asked me to apply. Insisted on walking me home while limping. He had a sprained ankle day before. He had sprained his ankle the day before and I didn't want him knowing where I lived. So I got him to walk me to Sand's Buries, and after a very awkward kiss, I went to kiss him on the cheek. He turned his head and opened his mouth.

What are these guys doing? Why are guys opening their mouth for kisses on the first date? Don't do that. Don't want that. Ah, that just makes me uncomfortable right now. In casing my mouth and his entirely, if you're in casing someone's mouth and yours, that's the word that you like in casing.

You really say the word in casing. When do I say the word in casing? I don't know. I don't think I say the word in casing that much. I literally turned around and sprinted away as fast as I could. We're talking no shame, full sprint, all the way home. He later told me it was a great date

and he wanted to see me again. When I told him no, he got so angry. What an idiot. So many weird things to do. Saying that she was like handed her to wish it on a silver plate. He's like, come on. On the first date, you're gonna tell someone

that their life circumstances were not because of their hard work You want to meet with the mom over eggsima So many weird things. That is really weird. Oh gosh. This one's quick. It's disgusting. Oh gosh This is from Brooklyn. I went on a blind date with his dude and he picked his nose and Oh No, I'm gonna vomit. There's very few things that gross me out more than the thought of eating boogers. There was a girl that I sat next to in class in elementary school and she would do that. And I didn't know what to do with myself. I

like we're young kids too. Like we're in the third grade. But like as a third grader, I knew that that was a big no-no. You know? Just kidding. Like, why do you got it? Okay, it's one thing to pick your nose. If you're going to pick your nose, do it in private, wash your hands, don't let anybody see you. But if you're going to eat your boogers, something gross that you do. What? You will sneeze and you will leave the snot and spit on your arm.

I wipe it off. I tell you have a napkin, but if you're driving, you'll just keep driving with your arm. Okay, Abby. I'm nasty so far. If I'm driving, okay, first of all, I have a sneezing problem.

I can't help it. When I sneeze, stuff comes out. Ew, everyone's high on my nose. But if I'm driving, if I'm driving a car, like I can't, what do you want me to do? Pull over and wipe it off my arm. So I eventually get to it. It's gross. Don't give me your like I can't, what do you want me to do, pull over and wipe it off my arm? So I eventually get to it. It's gross, don't give me your, I don't like it.

I'm not like chilling over here. Maybe you should pull over. But I'm not gonna crash the car to get some boogers off my arm, you know what I'm saying? That's really gross. It is gross, I'm sorry. Here's my question, how do you sneeze without anything coming out?

I just regularly blow my nose. Literally nothing comes out. Because it's already blown. But like if I blow my nose, I just get, like it's almost like more comes after that. Like I, it's like I'm just- Yeah, that's really gross. Starting this chain reaction of more and more

coming to my nose, if I blow my nose. Okay, this one's crazy. Went on a date with a guy he wanted me to be his girlfriend after one date. When I said I needed more time to get to know him, he got really pushy, so I told him I thought of the best if we just were friends. He proceeded to follow me around at work.

When I moved jobs, I didn't hear from him again. Fast forward 14 years, he was convicted of assaulting and then stalking an ex-girlfriend. Can you believe that? I clearly got a lucky escape. Geez, this is so cute. What? I feel like I've never known anybody to get stalked or anything like that.

I've never been around someone who's gone through that. So it almost feels like it's something from a movie. So to hear about it from someone who actually happened to them, like. That's so, that's creepy. Yeah. Because also I feel like stalking is something that's very hard to prove in for him to actually get charged. It must have been extremely serious.

Oh, totally. I've heard about girlfriends like calling their boyfriend thousands of times in a day to a point where it's like consider harassment. There was one like crazy girlfriend that did that. I saw a news article about it. Oh, yeah. I think I know which one to turn out. Okay, this one is from Alyssa.

So I don't know if this counts as a day, but this was the first time sleeping over at my BF's parents house, and I'm on my period. It was also the first time spending the night with my boyfriend. I came over, we eat dinner, and suddenly I noticed something on my chair cushion. Oh, no.

I have bloodthrew, and me being the awkward 15-year-old I was, is too embarrassed to get up to go to the bathroom. So instead, I stay seated and ignore it. Then when we've eaten dinner, we play some board games at the table and me with my boyfriend have to switch chairs. So not only did I get blood on two of their chairs, oh my gosh, she's still set down. Oh god. My boyfriend sat on it. Anyway, we've been together for five years now,

and neither my BF, me or my mother-in-law who had to clean their chairs has ever mentioned it. We were they were sleeping over and she was 15. I do think that's very odd. That's what stuck out to me. I was like, okay, sleeping over and then it's like, I'm 15. I'm like, whoa, that, I feel like that's a little concerning. It's a little concerning. I'm glad it all worked out, but like. Yeah, I don't think I would let if Griffin wanted to have it. I would definitely, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Well, we stayed at each other's parents' house as teenagers. I mean, we did. I guess we slept in separate rooms. Or long, long different rooms. We were long different rooms. Yeah, I mean, we did. I guess we slept in separate rooms. Or long, long different rooms. We were long different. Long distance. Yeah, I mean, I was 18, you were 17, then you turned 18 while we were dating.

I mean, you were, I mean, it's like I couldn't easily drive home. If I had, if my parents lived even 30 minutes when I would have been driving home. Totally. But that's kind of weird. I was like, it's my first time spending the night and it's like, you're 15.

15 seems so young to me. That's a child. Like, I'm about to turn 25. So I mean, 15 is literally 10 years ago for me. That's a child. Like I'm I'm about to turn 25. So I mean 15 is literally 10 years ago for me. That's crazy I guess is so funny because I feel like every girl can relate to like obviously having an experience where you like bleed through Yeah, but the fact that she continued to sit there and let it happen. Yeah You got us like how bad did it have to get what? Yeah, what did you do one time that happened to you in school right and then eighth grade and did you in history class? Did you put on your P E clothes or what did you do no what I did was I pulled this was the era where everyone was wearing

Those white canvas all under their shirt. Oh, yeah, remember that for like a layered look. Oh, yeah I pulled my white camey like way down past my butt so like no Okay, I quickly wiped off the chair and then went to the bathroom. It was like a plastic chair. So it's not like it's a, it didn't have any embroidery or fabric on it. No, it was like a wooden chair honestly.

Oh, okay. And but I definitely just threw those jeans away and put on my pee shorts. That's not fun. I know. That stinks, especially to be like young and you don't know when it's gonna happen and then it just comes out of the order. Like imagine having a daughter like, she got to be understanding. Like stinks, especially to be like young and you don't know when it's gonna happen and then it just comes out in the order.

Like imagine having a daughter like. She got to be understanding. Like you should have to. No, of course you're understanding, but it's like I can't even, I think it would be weird for a dad to talk to their daughter about that stuff. I think your dad was really uncomfortable

to talk to you about it, right? Yeah, I forced him to talk about it. Was the need to say like you're becoming a woman, Abby. Like he just kinda, and you just were like, okay. I think he didn't know what to say, but he felt like he should say something. Yeah. But I don't really remember.

But I would always, once I got in high school, I would just make jokes about it and it would make him super honorable. I don't know, I'm not really afraid to have uncomfortable conversations, though. I guess you're right. I'm not scared to talk about that with our kids. When it comes to having to talk with our kids,

we're just gonna have it. And we're gonna have it at a younger age because I want them to learn from us. We'll have the talk when they bring it up. True, but I want them to be informed and aware of like things at an age appropriate level. Well, I don't know what we shouldn't wait for them to bring it up. I agree, because if they're bringing it up, I think that, yeah, if they're bringing it up, Abbie, they've already heard. They've already heard about it.

Exactly, so I think we need to bring it up at an age appropriate level and explain to them the birds and the bees and all of that in an age appropriate way. I don't know, like some classmate or some kid at the gym to be telling them about stuff. We can have the sex talk when they're five, but in a way that's very, very surface level, it does not go into detail. And I don't know. We'll have to learn up on that. But I think waiting too long, they're definitely gonna learn it from the topic.

The last so many questions as a kid. I did, I was very curious. You know what's so sweet? Is that what Mom said? You asked her the question. Did it hurt you? Yeah, I did say that. That's so, so much.

Yeah, I was like, did it hurt? But. You're really thinking about so many details. I'm sure we're gonna have curious boys too. Like I'm sure some of you will be so curious. Even if you're now going through all of our cabinets, I'm like, you want to know everything. He is the most curious person I've ever been around in my whole entire life.

When I'm chewing, he'll just like stare at my mouth, trying to figure out what I'm doing. And especially with like, where the internet's at now, too. Yes, so right. Our kids will find out things about sex or whatever on the internet before us if we don't have an age appropriate conversation. Also, if we don't have like restrictions

to on the amount of time they have on their iPad or computer or whatever it is. And we just need to make sure that they're getting information from us and not the world, not from their friends, not from their classmates. Like we want us to be the one to educate them. No, I totally agree. Because I think they can learn, it can get messy, you know?

Isn't it funny how like Mark Zuckerberg or, wait, I don't even know, but the people of these, like that have created these social media platforms, like don't even let, like don't even use them themselves. Well, I barely even use it. I have times, yeah. Don't let their kids have accounts. I have restrictions on Instagram and TikTok.

Like, I literally go on to Instagram and TikTok just to make posts and then I get off of it. I literally do. It's my job and then I get off. And if I consume media, I usually consume more YouTube because I feel like it's not as dopamine-inducing. Yeah, because you just get constant hits of dopamine on TikTok. I am glad that TikTok's moving towards a place where they're making longer videos.

A lot of videos now on TikTok are getting closer to like four and five minutes, which is cool. But I think it's scary when people just are watching quick video after quick video. And it's not, we don't really know what that does your brain at this point. No, it's so new. Like never before in the history of the world, have we ever had that? So like right now we don't really give Griffin's screen time. If he's like, on a plane or in the car and he's really upset, we'll let him look at a screen or we're trying to

keep him awake so he can take a nap and we get home. But like, we only usually just let him listen to it. And then if we're at home, he doesn't use anything with the screen. It's funny. It's like his own personal podcast. We just play Miss Rachel and don't even show the screen. And he'll just chill out listening to Miss Rachel. He's like still listening music

Yeah, but if he is really worked up we will give him the screen I know technically you're probably not supposed to do that until they're one and a half But when he's on a plane what we don't want to piss off the whole entire plane with a screaming baby So he should survive at that point Yeah, it is survival. When do you think you'd like Griffin have his own phone or like would you ever let him have social media? That's a really good question. I think that my opinion on that Like my my opinion is gonna change a lot as we get older. I think he'll be allowed screen time I think that he'll be allowed

You know using an iPad or computer whatever it is, but I think it'll be monitored I think we'll have to limit how much he how much. And I'm not against him getting to scroll on different social media apps as long as it's monitored. Not TikTok. Yeah, I mean, TikTok, there's no way. Yeah, there's no guidelines. But I think it needs to be monitored and we need to be aware of what he's watching

and look at his search history. There's even ways to make it so that they can't delete their search histories that we're aware of what they're consuming. Yeah, that's good. Because I was talking to his mom earlier this week and she has a kid literally the same age as Griffin. She said she wasn't gonna give him a smartphone till he's 18.

Wow, see, okay, I would disagree with that though. Because as a kid, I learned so much on YouTube. I learned how to edit videos on YouTube. I became very passionate about video production as a young kid because I could just much on YouTube. I learned how to edit videos on YouTube. I became very passionate about video production as a young kid because I could just go on YouTube and learn from professionals. And by the professional software, and I just, I excelled in that space

because of YouTube, and I know that TikTok and YouTube and other platforms have educational material for kids. So I think just to blank, I think you're throwing the baby out with the bath water if you just say, oh, no. Hey, how would you say that phrase? Well, I think it's true though. I think if you just completely get rid of everything, then it's, then you lose the good with the bad, right?

Yeah. It's like hand sanitizer. If you don't wash, if you put on hand sanitizer instead of handwashing your hands, hand sanitizer kills the good germs that are good on your hands. Did you know that? Like, when you wash hands, it only kills the bad germs. What good germs that are good on your hands. Did you know that? When you're washing hands, it only kills the bad germs. What good germs could possibly be on your hands? Maybe I'm not using the right term. Maybe there's not a such thing as good germs, but I've always been told that. That when you use Hansen and Tisre, it kills the good stuff too along with the bad. Interesting.

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