The WAN Show - 3nm CPUs Are Coming! - WAN Show July 2, 2021

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

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I've already seen the pictures. I was going to pretend you hadn't. I have not seen the pictures. This will be a first-time reaction. All reactions will be genuine. Way to spoil it for everyone. In other news, Microsoft has elaborated on the windows 11 cpu requirements and is defending the requirement for a trusted platform module so we're going to be

talking about that what else we got luke there's a sony charging developers uh twenty five thousand dollars to show up on the playstation store that's that's cool and also fun and in other cool and also fun console news there will be tv style or i would i would probably say mobile style ads coming to console and pc gaming so cool i'm so happy with this yay all right um yeah let's roll the intro. That actually sounds like the worst. Cool. Good day in the YouTube comments says sell the house and get bitcoins. Sounds like a good strategy. Yeah, that sounds like a helpful suggestion.

The show is brought to you by Redux, Honey, and Ridgewallet. All right, let's jump right into our first topic of the day microsoft has elaborated on their windows 11 cpu requirements and defended the tpm requirements as well so after the reveal like luke were you a little surprised to find out that 8th Gen Core and 2nd Gen Ryzen were listed as the minimum supported CPUs. Very, extremely, I would actually say. Yeah, and this isn't one of those things where it's kind of like, you know, oh I definitely have not seen those pictures before, like this is honest, honest surprise, right? Yeah, especially because my world is shattered, my world is shaken, Luke. I don't know what I can trust and what I can't because you know i i thought you were a truthful a truthful kind of character and now i found out you've seen all these pictures already yeah yeah there's also

stuff like was it was it i think vista where they had this like pretty high system requirement and then like no one listened to it and then everyone hated vista um so like but it but it worked on those systems even though it was just a bad experience like it it doesn't seem like that's necessarily the case like it could actually require so we'll get we'll get into this now the crazy thing about it though is that some older cpus because you got to remember there's two different uh important dates for a CPU. There's the date that it actually was initially available commercially. That's date number one. And then date number two is the date that it went EOL, that it effectively stopped being sold. And here's the problem. Some of those CPUs that are older CPUs were still being sold brand new less than two years ago, like the Ryzen 5 1600

AF. Now, Microsoft has since announced that they are testing Zen 1 and Kaby Lake CPUs via the Insider program. However, installing the Insider Windows 11 build with an unsupported CPU will show a message that says the final version may not be available for you upon release which is a pretty big downer. With that said our internal testing has Windows 11 running on much older CPUs so there's probably more to the story here than compatibility or performance. We actually got it running on a Core 2 Duo and we just shot a video on how we did that and it seemed to run completely fine like core 2 duo what's that 2007 2008 core 2 duo let me see like what's the e when did they eat 2006 2006 that was oh I'm old. It was 15 years ago. Holy shnakes. Anyway, the other big requirement

that has caused issues for people is the TPM or Trusted Platform Module. Microsoft's PC health check app proclaimed that many modern PCs were incompatible due to a lack of TPM. The frustrating thing about that is that its only recommendation to rectify the problem was to buy a new PC. The PC health check app has since been pulled, and that's a good thing because the last thing you want to do after a period of prolonged hardship around the world is say, hey, you you know what things not working out for you so great pc's a little old you know what go buy a new one but you don't buy a new one you don't just have a bunch of money to just go buy a new one why don't you have money to buy a new one you slob like that that's the that's the way a lot of people felt about it and that's justifiable

because if you have a perfectly good computer, why should you suddenly just have to throw it away and buy a new one because you don't have some little validation module thing? And of course, just because your computer might have the option to add a TPM doesn't necessarily mean that it will be easy to do it. Scalpers immediately bought out stock of TPMs and put them up on sites like eBay for many, many times the price.

The good news is that most platforms since 2015 have a TPM integrated into the firmware. It's just disabled by default on DIY motherboards. So all of this confusion has led manufacturers like MSI and Gigabyte to make press releases with supported lists of motherboards that can use TPM 2.0. Although, here's a problem. Many ITX boards actually don't have the pins for the module, which is a little frustrating because especially with high-performance ones, they're always looking for new ways to

save space. However, most non-ITX boards since 2013 have TPM headers and ever since Skylake and first-gen Ryzen virtually all have firmware TPMs. With that said, not all discrete TPM headers are the same. Asus and Gigabyte each have three different types of them, all of which are incompatible with each other. So you can't just go on eBay, order a TPM module, and plonk it onto your system. You have to make sure that it is compatible not just with your motherboard vendor, but also with the specific model of motherboard you have now luke how do you feel about the requirement of a tpm it feels a little weird to me personally not gonna lie um i mean we can talk about what it's for. I mean, one of the things that TPM is great for

is something like BitLocker full-drive encryption. Because the TPM is, it's a pretty simple device, actually. It's a little cryptographic device that will generate, it's kind of like it's got a random number generator built into it. And then it stores the private key for the encryption so that it can't be um it can't be stolen effectively it's a little kind of you could think of it as kind of like apple's t2 chip but way way less sophisticated so it facilitates hardware level encryption effectively um it feels like it feels like to me that this should have been a a like warning

campaign type of thing where like microsoft tries to play because these things they they theoretically do help so i feel like microsoft should have been like hey you know while you're installing windows 11 we highly freaking suggest that you like turn this thing on or that you do this other thing. Or maybe they even block you and say your computer is not ready. And then they do that thing where there's like the text based link in the corner that's like, I don't care. And then you can bypass it. Something like that that allows people to acknowledge that Microsoft thinks they should have this thing, but they can just install it anyways. It feels weird that it's a requirement. For OEM oems it's been a requirement for a long time now like i think a tpm

uh some kind of tpm uh implementation has been required for at least four or five years now so it's been available to consumers since uh when did when was bitlocker added was that with vista or seven but i mean we've talked about this on wancho before there's there's skylight systems um skylight am i referencing the right thing hold on one sec locker 2007 yeah what's that yeah there's there's sky lake systems that people are still using and still like gaming on and having a a good old dandy time and they probably don't have the hardware for this even if that's like a pre-built from an oem um yeah no that's that's

true that's true they might want to run windows 11 and they in my opinion should just be able to bypass it and again maybe they could do that like advanced user thing where the the like way to bypass it is like hidden in some corner that you're probably not going to look at unless you know to look there or whatever but i think there should i personally believe there should be some way to be like yeah whatever dude my computer's from 2014 or something i understand or beyond like i understand there might be some security problems with the fact that my system's super ancient but so here's what i think i think that this is the warning because windows 11 by and large has benefits over Windows 10. But a lot of the under the hood ones seem to be focused on newer hardware, right?

Like optimizing for big little architecture CPUs, for example. Obviously, if you are going to benefit, yeah, yeah, touch devices. Obviously, if you're going to benefit from some of those newer under the hood improvements, you're going to meet the requirements for TPM 2.0 and everything's going to be hunky dory. And then if you have older hardware, I think what Microsoft is effectively saying is no problem. Run Windows 10 then. So that gives you, I think the end of support date is 2025 for windows 10 which actually does buy you another four years to upgrade so in another four years will a sky lake system be starting to get a little long in the tooth i think that's probably fair to say but i mean i think it sort of already is.

But yeah, well, sort of. I mean, you could definitely play very AAA games on Skylake today. A hundred percent. I mean, even going going back to Haswell, Ivy Bridge, you could still be playing very, very high end games as long as you've got a GPU that is good enough. And you do a little bit of overclocking and all of a sudden you're laughing. But there are other issues with running older hardware. They have more vulnerabilities that are never going to be patched. And I think that expecting people to upgrade about every 10 years or so

is not entirely unreasonable, especially if you consider that today, because there was that long period of stagnation where we just didn't see the same kind of performance improvements that we used to, today we kind of take for granted that a 10-year-old computer should be fine, right? But can you imagine in 2005 thinking that it's okay to run a computer that was built in 1995 yeah not even remotely get real 2005 was the i think the athlon 64 was out uh let me have a look here there's one of the things too is like we're talking about sky lake and i think that's a very legitimate conversation but one of the ways too is like we're talking about sky lake and i think that's a very legitimate conversation but to bring it back even further like i know people

playing modern games on sandy bridge processors yeah um like it's it's 100 100 i don't know but like it's it's and it ties into that stagnation thing you're talking about etc but like there's people running these old computers and are they're just still not having any problems and like no matter what the like the hardware community is like oh yeah these new cpus are yeah well the vast majority of people aren't going to use that performance yeah maybe you will and that's fantastic and it's really exciting and that's that's cool but so i can totally understand why someone who just uses a web browser isn't going to care about upgrading their computer.

So I think what's happening here is we are getting the warning shot. Windows 10 is going to keep getting support till 2025, which means that you'll realistically be able to keep using it for a little while after that if you want to. It won't be until after 2025 that the install base will really start to dwindle

and you'll start to see game developers not supporting the OS or you'll start to see companies like NVIDIA or AMD pull driver support. So realistically, you could still be running your machine from 2015 until 2025, 2026, 2027, if you want to push it and you're willing to roll that die

in terms of security updates. And in the context of going from, okay, Windows 95, right? You would have been running a Pentium 2 if you were state of the art, okay? You were running 266 megahertz back in 1995. In May of 2005, you were running an Athlon 64X2 if you were state of the art, okay? So yes, the hardware hasn't moved forward in that way over the last 10 years. But that doesn't mean that computing hasn't changed that much in 10 years and that we don't need to do something about standardizing the platform that people are running on in some meaningful way.

And Microsoft's justification for this ultimately does kind of make sense to me, even if I'm not thrilled about it. In a nutshell, they say, look, this comes down to security. Microsoft claims that PCs using a TPM and Secure Boot reported 60% less malware thanks to virtualization-based security And if Microsoft wants to stay competitive A lot of attacks are in that vector these days Exactly If Microsoft wants to stay competitive with Apple and Google So Google doesn't even have 10-year-old hardware to deal with on Chrome OS

And then Apple just gets to deprecate things whenever it pleases them because they're so vertically integrated and their customers will just accept it. If Microsoft wants to do something to move Windows security forward, like as a platform, as something that they can really message about, I actually think that this could be a big part of the reason that windows 11 exists at all so i don't see them backing down from this and i it's windows there's going to be hacky ways to do it probably but yes i don't think that microsoft is going to endorse them in any way and the industry is going to be expected to adapt because we have, you know,

four to six years to kind of figure it out. And at some point, Windows has to get more secure. And if this is the way they've identified to do it, then Windows 11 is this clear line in the sand that Microsoft is drawing that goes, OK, Windows 10, you know what? It wasn't as good. And this is why. And you can keep using it for a while, but guys, you will have to upgrade even if you don't have to do it today. Yeah, that makes sense. That does make sense.

Most of the improvements like you're mentioning are kind of quality of life stuff. Yep, absolutely. You don't have to move on from Windows 10. Actually, okay, one absolutely you don't have to move on from windows 10 actually okay one thing we don't know is whether uh this is a really critical feature that i'm excited for direct storage so the gpu's ability to access your storage directly um but then now that i think about it actually no one's going to be running pci express gen 4 and not have tpm 2.0 yep so the whole thing the whole it's all wait where's that

cronk i need that cronk gif it's all coming together it all makes sense now if the if the benefits of windows 11 are performance benefits but that are applicable mainly to very modern systems then it makes perfect sense to just kind of say, okay, well, then modern systems are going to run Windows 11 and not modern systems are going to run Windows 10. And no one should really be that upset about it because you can just run Windows 10 and you'll have a just fine experience like you have. There are some other problems. their problems uh toad g says yeah tpm is a repair nightmare that is super true having having like encryption keys tied to the cpu in the motherboard socket is going to be a real nightmare for people who don't practice good data storage best practices uh Because if you just run your machine,

you store all of your data right on your boot drive and you have some kind of problem, you take it into a shop, they have to swap out some hardware, you could be in for an extremely bad time. There could just be no way to access your data unless you stored your backup key somewhere that you can actually get at it.

Could be bad. You have a water cooling leak, right? So you lose a CPU and motherboard at the same time. Could be very problematic. I mean, I've been advocating for a long time for people to just not store any data on their computers. any data on their computers. But the reality of it is, is I remember back when I didn't have the kind of money to just have an extra computer to keep all my hard drives in. That wasn't, that was just not possible, even though you can build a decent NAS for a couple hundred dollars. I mean, you want to talk about- A hundred dollars is not necessarily accessible to- Exactly. Pretty huge range of people.

Exactly. I mean, that is one benefit, though, of the of the kind of the stagnation that took place for so long is lots of people have upgraded their computers to get better performance. But the hardware that is now orphaned is very, very usable. very, very usable. And as long as you don't mind dealing with the extra power consumption, it is amazingly affordable to build yourself a cheap NAS. Like, think about it. You don't even need a GPU. You don't even need anything that's in shortage because Intel's been building in onboard graphics for over 10 years now. That's fantastic. You just get an old cheap board CPU, throw some crap RAM from ebay in it and you're off to the races especially if it's idling all the time it is way less problematic in terms of power consumption compared to if you are actually doing something heavy like you're

using it for uh plex transcoding or something along those lines yeah i i i wonder probably not much but i do wonder uh what this might do for uh linux advocacy because a lot of this old hardware like we've been talking is still legit especially if what you're doing is not heavy if you're not gaming if you're not video editing if you're not uh doing heavy things like that there's a wide range of them modeling etc um if you're doing word processing if you're browsing the web if you're if you're yeah there's a there's there's a lot of things you can do on your computer that isn't necessarily what a lot of this audience is doing um and once Windows 10 stops being supported, those types of tasks are actually very easy for the average user to pick up on non-complicated Linux distros. This is interesting. Gabriel Garcia has a super chat in here.

One benefit of the min spec being Coffee Lake slash Ryzen 2 is that Win11 apps can target extensions like AVX2 directly. Yep, that is a huge benefit. All of a sudden, having this kind of clear line in the sand for what developers can expect from a system that's running an OS makes it a lot cleaner to optimize your apps.

Yep, that is- You're probably going to see more. And we saw this kind of stuff and it annoyed the hell out of me with with companies like elgato despite them making tons of fantastic and amazing things um their their stream deck was only supported on windows 10 for like a super long time when windows 8 windows 7 were still very viable operating systems i think you'll see significantly more of that with Windows 11 if that's the case. But yeah, I think the low-end system game, more than ever, even though it's already a bit of a thing, I think the low-end system game might look a lot more Linux-y for the next while.

Someone in the floatplane chat said, Linux will run on a potato. And I'm like, yeah, that's my point, kind of. Yep, exactly. There's a lot of these older systems. It could be a very fantastic answer for it. It'll be interesting to see if anything does kind of shift more than it already has in that realm. The real tech guy says, okay, but like as someone who works in a computer repair shop, from a customer's perspective, why should I have to have a NAS?

That's such a great question. So when someone comes into the shop and they go, why should I have to have a NAS? The answer such a great question. So when someone comes into the shop and they go, why should I have to have a NAS? The answer is you shouldn't. But then if you want the simpler, the simple, easy magic bullet, then what you need to do is you just need to pay for your OneDrive or your Google Drive subscription and you need to practice good data management and you need to make sure that everything is backed up there. That's the answer so are they trying to sell one drive subs what no no no no i just mean that no no no i'm not saying you i'm saying are they no no i'm that's my answer that's my answer if you don't want to worry about oh oh oh i see what you mean so that that is the answer though so if you have heavy data requirements,

the answer is you need to make sure that everything is on a NAS and all your machines are doing regular nightly backups. And if you don't have heavy data requirements, the answer is cloud storage has gotten so affordable. I mean, the sponsor that we work with all the time, the 45 Drives builds their storage box, Backblaze. Backblaze. Yeah, Backblaze.

It's super affordable to back things up to the cloud these days. There's just no excuse anymore. So from a tech shop's perspective, the answer is educating your customers about what their options are to ensure that they're not going to lose their data. And if they don't think it's it's and if they if they don't think it's important because i used to i used to work in a tech shop and lots of people would be like i don't need data backup i don't care about my stuff uh i always bring up the the

wedding and baby pictures argument um because then they're like oh wait i can't lose those and i'm like yeah where are you storing them yeah it's like okay well maybe you should consider something like what if you if you don't want to put that stuff in the cloud there's some things you might not want in the cloud no matter what you can do local storage with the the three things where you have like on on the device on a similar device that might be in the same area and then on a on a hopefully different type of device in an area that is very far away you can do that thing if you can afford it thing if you can afford it and if you can maintain it

or you can just go with the cloud, whatever, but you should have more than one copy of your data. Yeah, absolutely. You know what was the eureka moment for me when I learned that my data needed to be rated and backed up? When I learned how a hard drive works. That was the moment for me. It seems wild, right?

It's nuts, okay? Like, if you've ever actually seen the read and write head, right? If you've seen it move back and forth over the spinning disc okay at 7200 rpm i remember i remember someone from western digital explaining this to me once they're like yeah at the outer edge of the spinning disc um you know keeping that head stable it's a real it's a real engineering challenge because effectively it's ripping around in hurricane force winds and i'm like what we hold on a second my precious memories are on this thing excuse me i need to go for a minute and yeah it's crazy and the fact that they like basically never fail unless you drop them is

is pretty nuts as well i don't know obviously they do but like i have hard drives that have been running for a decade basically it's unbelievable it's nuts um but but yeah back up your data even if you think you don't care now um to maybe some of the younger audience i would say there's stupid stuff i had this amazing wallpaper once it was like a really great ultra wide wallpaper it had like uh it had like a horse and cart or something and it was like labeled with like console stuff and then there was some faster thing and it was pc or something it was this really cool cartoon style yeah i had it on my desktop at uh at the old office the old langley house and i i don't know i just like i've tried to find it again and i can't find it and i'm like oh that

sucks i wish i had i wish i'd put it somewhere because having everything instantly available at your fingertips has been great in a lot of ways right like everything's a quick Google search away, except for things that are gone. Because the internet has gotten so big and so broad that it's so easy now for things to disappear forever. There's this great flash game I used to play called Pearl Harbor, where you're this plane and you go back and forth, back and forth. Every time you get to the end of the scene, it just kind of turns around and you're fighting something. I don't remember exactly how it played anymore because one day it disappeared

and you can't play it anymore. That experience is completely gone. There's that whole saying, like the internet remembers. And it's like, yeah, unless it doesn't. And in a lot of cases it does, but in a lot of cases, due to the sheer size of the internet, it doesn't.

It's just too much data. Sites will go down and all your stuff's just gone. So back it up. I know a lot of the kids watching aren't going to take this to heart because I sure didn't. But the memories that you have and like the photos and stuff that you have now um back them up you'll care later i have not care now you'll care later i have lost a big chunk of photos once it was really hard it was really rough yep uh yeah people in floatplane chat are talking about their are talking about their bad experiences losing data.

Neo Cortez says, then your house burns down, is burgled or flooded. So there are solutions to these things. I have a fireproof NAS at my house that I actually use for extremely important things. I can't fit everything on it because it's just a two hard drive NAS. So it's just two drives and RAID 1. But you should absolutely have some kind of contingency. I can't fit everything on it because it's just a two hard drive NAS. So it's just two drives and RAID 1. But you should absolutely have some kind of contingency. Also, conveniently, I have a super fast internet connection both at home and at the office. And I have keys to the server room.

So I can put things at the office if I really want to. Ha ha ha ha. Off continent or off general geographic area is also a very good idea. If you're planning on backing up data and it's not in the cloud, that three stages thing at a minimum is very important. And RAID doesn't count. It should be rated, but RAID does not count. I am surprised that there isn't an open source,

super easy to use, community-based, like, hey, you know, I'll show you my data if you show me yours kind of backup app. I've been pushing the Unraid guys to build this forever, like Unraid Friends or something like that, where what I want is fairly straightforward, just built right into the OS. I can friend someone effectively, and we can cross-allocate a shared storage space to each other. And then it will effectively just take whatever I want to put in my off-site important folder or i'll flag certain folders as as key folders it'll synchronize them to my friend's server and store an encrypted copy locally on their server and then i can effectively take some of my storage and give them the same thing now you can set up stuff like this

you can do it manually but i think it's the kind of thing i've told them for years now. I think it's the kind of thing that could really set their software apart. You can do it. What's that? I would get evangelical about that. I, and I know obviously, yeah, you can do this yourself. And quite a few people do, but some of the, the, you got to consider, like if you are the tech person in this like manual setup, you now have to maintain this for as many people as you you enter into that agreement.

Exactly. And I would love like to have this. I would I would love to just like basically sell little boxes that I'm obviously not making money on, but sell little boxes to like my whole family and just be like, OK, we're creating a friend storage pool on Unraid. It works updated every once in a while. See you later. Like that would be great. That would be amazing. I'd go nuts with that.

I'd try to get basically everyone I knew because like it really sucks being the tech person for your group of people and then having someone be like, oh, my laptop got wet or something i lost all my wedding photos and it's like yeah i told you to do backups for that and you didn't because i guess it was complicated or whatever and it would be great if like there was just some yeah i don't know i would like that that'd be cool i'd be unread homies with you yeah for sure for sure

and like i would like in a minute yeah i would just throw like a giant Unraid box at the office and everyone could just have their encrypted data on there. I've got some people saying like, hey, you know, what about if someone got busted with illegal content? Sure, but it's encrypted. So whatever illegal content they have, you got to imagine, think of it kind of like if, you know, someone put child pornography in their Dropbox. Dropbox is not in possession of the child pornography.

That is encrypted data that they can't even read. Ultimately, whoever put it there is the one who would be in trouble in that case. So there should be no reason from like a a personal criminal liability standpoint that it would matter i would also think though that you'd want you'd want your unraid homies to be people you you know and mostly trust anyway but friend friend raid coming soon to ltt stores that is jamer jamer person yeah exactly technology has that feature the last time that i tried to mess with it it wasn't exactly what line is saying it can be done it's kludgy and sonology nazis are well they're sonology it's not cross-platform so what i want is a way to just do it on something that

runs on cheap commodity hardware yeah yeah because you like i just gave the that probably i probably put that person down that path because i said i would just sell my family these little boxes but um that's that's not particularly what i mean like my my brother's pretty techie my dad's pretty techie etc um they would probably just want to use some old computer hardware that they had laying around and connect some drives to it. They wouldn't want to buy a new Synology NAS. Yeah, it's different. Yeah.

People are saying, try explaining that to a judge. I don't have to explain that to a judge. You guys don't think this has ever come up? Come on, guys. You got to use your common sense here. All right. Cool. All right. Why. All right.

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decorated and done up by the person that currently lives there, like people, anyone who's like shopped for apartments or anything, done anything like that. They'll know like, it's your own flair on things is going to change the place a lot. Yeah. But that fireplace though, I get a kick out of this picture frame. So you've got the picture,

you got the frame around it. You got frame. So you've got the picture. You got the frame around it. You got the light that shines down on the picture. And then you've got another trim that goes around the picture. And I'm kind of sitting here going, I don't own a single piece of art. What do I do? What do I put there? I have no idea. do i do what do i put there i have no idea there's all this there's all this like wiring in these walls um that just i don't want a light there what would i do with the light there

you can put your uh your your it's not your wedding photo um with the one with you and yvonne on the thing? Oh, the honeymoon photo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I could put that there. I know you... I don't know, man. Out of the things that you have, that's the only thing I can think of. Yeah.

Here's a shot of the kitchen. So we're probably going to refinish the floors. They're solid wood floors, which is super cool. Would be extremely wasteful to take them out. So I think we don't like the color. So I think what we're going to do is we're going to sand them down and refinish them something a little bit cooler, a little bit, yeah, a little bit less, a little bit lighter,

lighter, maybe a little bit cooler. We're pretty, pretty overall happy. The kitchen looks pretty amazing. So many people are telling me to put a TV above the fireplace. Guys, are you doing that to trigger me? Is that why you're asking me to put a TV above my fireplace?

It's the worst. I refuse. I absolutely refuse. Oh man, Brass Caribou over on Floatplane says, I'm liking that kitchen desk um okay so that's not called a kitchen desk um that space is designed for you to take phone calls and write down messages and stuff yeah remember that kitchen desk there's so so many things about this place are so like 1995 baller 90s yeah yeah super baller 90s because everyone had corded phones right yeah and and you would often someone would call your

residence and not be able to call a specific person so it was very often they would get the wrong person it would be very often that that person would not be available at that time so you wouldn't want that like desk so you could like take call notes. Post-it notes. I think it was built in 92. So that should give you some idea of the era of things. Unfortunately, that means there's no network wiring whatsoever. But hey, at least they've got this fantastic

built-in bookcase unit with this wonderful TV spot here that you can tell is totally the shape of modern TVs. So that's really convenient. Absolutely fantastic. Yeah, it is CRT-tastic. And then over here, this spot right here is a built-in CD storage unit. By the way, another very, very specific art location. I know, right? I just don't know what to do with that stuff.

It's just... It actually has more than two fireplaces. There is a, uh, there's at least one more. I can't remember how many more there are. Cause I think we're putting in one more. Um, let's see. That's so that's it for the main floor. If you guys are bored of this, I can definitely stop showing you house pictures, but, uh, if you are not bored of it, I would be happy to show you a little bit more of it. There's a good look at the downstairs here. I'm just making sure we can't see outside. Yep, there we go. There's a good shot of the downstairs. So there's a foosball table there. This is funny. Apparently this closet is specifically a little bit taller

than a normal closet so that you can tuck your folding ping pong table into it that is apparently a thing i forgot about that that's actually amazing oh my goodness dude so that's pretty great there is an unfinished basement oh man most of the basement is unfinished we're gonna turn this area where the ping pong table is here into a theater room. This area here is going to be like a gaming area for me and my kids and my wife. I'm probably going to try to cram five PCs in here. I don't know if it'll fly. So there will be at least three for the kids.

And then my wife and I might have our machines upstairs in the office. Over here is going to be... It's so cool to have a five-person land area though like i hear you i understand but but oh it's not as big as it looks this is a wide angle shot four at least four though because then you could do left for dead oh yeah okay i'll do my best i'll do my best okay yeah yeah it is not as big as it looks at all that place is also pretty yeah someone could come over with like a laptop and you could just do like a temporary table yep for sure for sure and there will be a second uh or there will be at least one other gaming machine or there'll be at least two other gaming machines in the basement so there'll be one in the media room obviously and then there'll be a vr space that's over where that foosball table was um that will also have a tv on the wall and will obviously also be gaming capable if it's going to be where my vr setup is going to be right so

i'm there's going to be a lot of content coming over the next little bit here guys because the place is is going to need a real tech makeover I don't think I'm going to do all of the stuff myself this time though I spent I mean it took me 10 years to get my current house to the state where I'm really happy with the technology situation with my server closet with my wi-fi access points everywhere I need them to be everything's hardline cat6a like this place is perfect I've got all of my base stations my lighthouses for my VR in the living room all wired up through the ceiling so none of the cables are running down the wall or anything like that but it took me it's not often I get home at the end of the day after work and I feel like

crawling around in my crawl space you know what I mean like i i think i'm yeah i think i'm gonna let a professional come in and do the cat 6a this time instead of doing it myself um yeah i a bunch of people in flowplane chat were asking for moving vlogs i i can i guess you can speak to this i don't suspect there will be moving blogs but but like what you just said, I'm sure there will be like tech upgrade. There will be content around the house anyways. So the people are asking to see the mechanical room. So like the boiler and furnace and stuff.

So it doesn't have a furnace. It has in-floor radiant heat, which is sweet. And get this, I don't even have to hire someone to do the check of it because Jake got Fleer to send us that like $30,000 thermal camera so I'm just doing it myself so you just turn the heat up across the whole house and then you just walk around with your thermal camera and make sure that there's no dead spots pretty cool uh anyway here's the the mechanical room is crazy. It's huge. This room really is as big as it looks.

And the reason for it is that they had intended to put in a pool and they never did it. And they had wanted all the pool equipment in this room and it never went in. So it doesn't have a continuous water heater like we put in our current house, but it does have two hot water tanks. So you should basically never run out, which I thought was pretty funny. That is a very 90s continuous heaters don't exist yet, or they are too expensive solution to that. And there is absolutely no ethernet in this place whatsoever. So I gonna need that uh tell us says fiber is available to the address though so that's good so someone in chat uh said where's luke's room and then someone

responded this looks like luke's room nice i dig it here this can be this can be luke's room jk this is the master bedroom pretty simple you know a lot of the places we went and looked at had crazy master bedrooms like there's this weird sitting area in it and like i'm kind of sitting here going who sits in their bedroom like yeah that is so weird or they would have like a balcony that opens out in front of the house i'm sitting here going they'd have like a and it would be staged by the realtor or whatever and they would have a little they'd have like a little table for sitting and having tea or i'm sitting here going who would do that in your room yeah why would you do that in your room unless you have like literally a servant but like that's you know because it's always it's

always places um where you would see this stuff that are enormous right and have a gorgeous backyard and patio so i'm sitting here going why on earth would i be sitting sitting on the front of the top of the front of my house when i could just be in my backyard where i have privacy yes i would like to observe the cul-de-sac or wherever it is yeah or whatever so i need to i need to observe every car that drives down my street perfectly. I think that's pretty much it for the pictures that I can show without showing any of the exterior. And that's my goal, is to not show the exterior of this house at all.

Something that we did to make things a little bit um more challenging is a thing i'm just actually not going to talk about just to make my life my life easier so i get to go pick up the keys in 20 minutes which means we better get through some more tech topics otherwise we're gonna have had a one topic show so yeah thanks for thanks for looking at house pictures oh people are asking all kinds of things here uh it's so obvious you don't have servants says noob master 96 um yes i do not have servants yes it has air conditioning i actually like the air conditioning at my current place better, not just because I did it, but because it's room by room at our current place

because we did it with mini splits, whereas at the new place, it's just one big unit. So you're going to have rooms that are hotter and you're going to have rooms that are not as hot, and that just is kind of annoying. Someone says, looks like the roof needs to be redone uh the roof does need to be redone it's gonna cost like a hundred grand or something like that we're putting we're putting in solar though and stuff oh that's cool there's a reason we're going like super sustainable like forever are you getting power walls um i don't think power wall's here yet

there's their solar roofing stuff isn't here yet so i don't know i haven't actually looked into that yep tech topic tech topic or are we still doing house questions um yeah let's do a tech topic for sure heck yeah former microsoft employees stole $10 million in Xbox gift cards. Amazing. I'm going to butcher this name, but I'm going to try it. Vladimir Kibashchuk was working at Microsoft's Redmond office testing e-commerce infrastructure. He's 26 years old. I don't know why this matters.

He quickly discovered a flaw in the system that he then exploited. He did not report it. He exploited it. He started small. He started off with $10 to $100 codes. He didn't generate really all that many, but he was scalping them. He was selling them. Two years later, only two years later, he had generated over 152 000 gift codes at a valuation of 10.1 million dollars he flipped those cards uh for bitcoin and then flipped that bitcoin for cash and was very quickly living on a seven-figure lakefront home um i don't know how you could possibly think you weren't going to get caught for that. Oh, man. But I suspect just like after a while of not getting caught, he just thinks he's invincible and then buys a seven figure lakefront home. I guess so.

I mean, hubris, right? That is some classic hubris. Nine years in prison for gift card theft. I mean, it was $10 million of gift card theft. He effectively stole $10 million. Yeah. That is crazy. Apparently, he was responsible.

I don't see where this is. Yeah, he flipped so many cards, 152,000 cards that were just generated of thin air, right? So he was responsible for global fluctuations in the price of xbox gift cards on reseller markets because he flooded them so hard holy absolutely crazy that's nuts that is un-freaking-real man oh what can you do about it though right uh yeah i mean the second it goes into bitcoin it's it's uh it's a little difficult to track i do wonder how exactly he was caught um i don't know if like one

of his uh fellow employees comes and visits his home and is like how'd you get this but yeah pretty, pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. All right. I am getting a call from the wife, so I think I'm going to have to go pretty soon. But why don't we try and get through a couple more topics here? Intel and Apple are going to be the first to get 3 nanometer from TSMC. They are both lined up as the first customers for the new process, which will

be referred to as N3 and will be deployed in late 2022. It'll offer a 10-15% performance increase at the same power and transistor count, a 30% power reduction at the same clocks and complexity, as well as 70-20% gains in logic density and SRAM density, respectively. According to a Nikkei report, both companies are already testing their chip designs that are being produced using the N3 process, and it also states, Intel is apparently preparing at least two products

to be made with the process, one for notebooks and one for servers. It's possible these will only be more niche products as opposed to Intel's mainstream consumer products, but only time will tell. Apple will be using N3 on an SoC in late 2022 or early 2023 in the iPad, and apparently that will be a new processor versus the current M1, which kind of makes sense because M1 will have had, well, it'll be two years, at least two

years old by that time. We know that intel will be outsourcing some adam and zeon based socs to tsmc so it's a safe bet that these are among those products fascinating i have one more quick thing to announce on ltt store we have a new product oh yeah reflective heat sink shirt is here ladies and gentlemen look at this fantastic modeling team we've got that's right it's reflective has a reflective ltt logo on the back look at this guy look at this girl look at this guy look at this other guy hey and you can get them now for $19.99. Also, we have brought back mystery shirts. They're $12.99 and they're a mystery.

A lot of them are going to be older and less popular ones or ones that we only had oddball sizes left and good stuff like that. So, hey, there you go. They're a mystery, but they're cheaper. And I think that's pretty much it for the show. I think I got to go, ladies and gentlemen. So I'll just do a couple of super chats here. Oh my goodness, there's quite a few,

but at least I managed to click the tab so they didn't all go away. Adrian Frick recommends a game, The Messenger. I'm not looking for more games right now though. I got a bunch of them last week. Thanks, Bob Costco. Anyone else notice? Little Linus and Luke's beards disappear

going from the intro to the sponsor. Yes, that's because the sponsor things are older. Michael says, thanks for all the content. Love watching the videos. Hey, awesome. Robert says, Windows 11 system requirements are a mess. Hard to keep up with the leaks and discussions and their own tool is still not for users.

Yeah, 100%. The good news is that it's not actually launched yet. So they've got time to get this stuff figured out. Yeah. Hunter says, the TPM 2.0 requirement is going to put a strain on schools. I can tell you for a fact my district can't afford slash doesn't want to pay for new positions. Yeah, that's actually a really really good point they do have quite a quite a few years um but i do know that a lot of schools try to stay on the

most modern operating system at the very least so that that will make that tough tomex says live streams don't work in the floatplane app i built for web os tvs. I'm gonna fix it and test next week Sweet a web os app. That's pretty cool That's very cool. Yeah, i'm an lgtv, uh guy myself So unfortunately most of the time anyone's live streaming on floatplane. It's me So there's no point in me watching it on my web os tv, but that's fantastic um With that I think you probably have to go Uh, yes, let me just see if there's i know you're

gonna want to get sucked into that i'm just trying to christian says look into smart vents they open and close based on room temperature yeah i've heard some of them aren't very good though so i'll have to have a look at that um and lyam says if you reach out to elon musk i bet you could get not only their solar roof but also the power wall uh i don't know i i kind of doubt it i don't we're not exactly on a first name basis i i don't think he cares um uh josh says hey a couple of wan shows ago you read a super chat i sent i didn't really expect you to read it let alone genuinely take it seriously it made my day so thanks for that hey you're welcome josh all right thanks everyone we'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye.

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