The WAN Show - A Monster Lawsuit Is Coming For Me - WAN Show April 7, 2023

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

Go to https://www.signalwire.com/wan to claim your $50 credit upon signing up. Get $5 off your Magic Spoon order with code WAN at https://lmg.gg/magicspoon Timestamps (Courtesy of NoKi1119) Note: Timing may be off due to sponsor change: 0:00 Chapters 1:32 Intro 2:33 Topic #1 - Monster Energy sues for a game having "monster" in title 3:04 Comparing logos, company sued for using the color green 4:32 Linus discusses Monster Energy drinks & the incentive 6:36 Monster Fish Keepers, Luke on abusing trademarks 8:54 Recalling Kylie lawsuit, Brookhaven Bears, the point behind trademarks 10:25 Luke on documented confusion of Linus with Linux 11:47 Linus recalls Tech Sack's past name 12:18 Monster sued Ubisoft, Luke on game names & Unity demos 13:33 Dennis hijacks WAN Show using Uncle Linus's Sack 15:22 Linus reads Uncle Linus's Potato Farm letter, starts the competition 22:02 Linus did not plan this, Dennis says the answers 24:44 Luke calls out someone for flexing with British food 25:46 Linus's preference, Luke on "Cold mall fry," Dennis's drive 27:06 Topic #2 - TechLinked temporarily deleted 28:37 Unrestored comments, Linus mentions past hack 29:32 Luke's Content ID theory, Google's lack of warnings 33:24 Linus on Floatplane transcoding & writing "www" 36:22 Topic #3 - Intel's Arc Battlemage & Celestial 40:41 Luke recalls Arc challenge, "review GPUs before it comes out" idea 42:46 Linus on predictive content, LTT's artificial CPU pre-review 46:02 Topic #4 - Luke fragmented the infected M2 SSD 46:53 Luke missed hitting it with a bat 49:14 Specs of the SSD, discussing malware 50:18 Luke freaked out as CTO, Linus on the motherboard's cost 52:48 Luke on lack of spare systems, Jaiden works on a Steam Deck 55:38 Standardizing workstations, reliability of laptops 1:00:02 Linus & Luke on the feasibility of 10GbE & workstation specs 1:06:26 Showing the server graveyard, planned LTT vlogs 1:08:24 What does "Linus Media Group" do as a company? 1:24:37 Linus's LTX stage idea 1:27:20 Topic #5 - Starforged Systems's parody video 1:41:22 What Linus & Luke watched, SAMMIT invited Linus to drifting 1:46:22 Merch Messages #1 2:04:14 Sponsors 2:10:30 Topic #6 - Artificial Intelligence update 2:11:16 Microsoft's Jarvis, mentions Wolfram|Alpha 2:13:49 HuggingGPT, OpenAI sued for defamation 2:15:52 Topic #7 - VR adoption is slow amongst teens 2:19:02 Linus on Gen Z, Luke's past with consoles & present 2:23:17 Topic #8 - General Motors removes Android Auto & Apple CarPlay 2:26:55 LTTStore's new windbreaker 2:33:14 LTTStore's new neon motherboard T-shirt, dad hats not selling well 2:35:46 Luke reviews the LTTStore laptop bag 2:44:01 Merch Messages #2 2:44:31 Why did Linus start or stop calling Luke Slick? 2:46:51 Best paint for PC cases? 2:55:52 Topic #9 - Reusing thumbnails & faces for LTT videos 3:01:08 Topic #10 - Microsoft emulator loophole patched 3:02:47 Nintendo DMCAs PointCrow's videos, Linus on ASUS's ally 3:06:07 Topic #11 - WD My Cloud locked due to breach 3:06:38 Linus discusses his investment in the NAS company 3:14:13 Topic #12 - Samsung data leak using ChatGPT 3:14:54 Luke's predicts the return of local servers & systems 3:19:37 Topic #13 - Next "smart" devices remotely controlled over the internet 3:22:56 Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show after dark 3:24:11 Luke's opinion on people wanting to stop AI's development 3:28:02 Has LTT or Floatplane had to overcome legal hurdles? ft. AI talk 3:38:51 Features you want on a hand-held high quality holster? 3:41:20 Game mechanics you'd like to see AI applied to? ft. Google Translate 3:56:24 Any experiences Linus carried from NCIX? 3:57:51 Most surprising feature on a new GP? recovering mentally 4:07:38 What is Linus', Lukes' & Dans' SO's biggest taboo? 4:18:08 Luke's thoughts on Adam Conover's AI scam video 4:23:06 Full on gaming LMG channel? ft. pending approval Labs logo 4:58:09 Open sourcing Labs software? ft. Floatplane updates, LTTStore questions 5:15:52 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How's it going gravy and welcome to the WAN show we've got a great show lined up for you guys today lots of great topics which everyone who was tuned into the pre-show knows is a big fat lie but we do have a few pretty interesting ones monster monster energy is running around suing pretty much anyone who has monster associated with their brand or the name of their product in any way. Uh-oh. So by simply putting monster in the title of this video, we could be opening ourselves

up to a big fat lawsuit. Hey, thanks Monster Energy. In other news, Starforge Systems reviewed the LTT screwdriver. Reviewed the LTT screwdriver. I have gone out of my way to not only Not watch the video. Oh, but I haven't even skimmed the comments. So we are gonna be reacting live We're doing a reaction video Luke. Let's go What else we got today? One of our channels got deleted. Did I do it on purpose because I enjoyed it so much last time? I was wondering that. Or what really happened?

Who else has the opportunity and the motive? I'm pretty high on the Suspects list at this point in time. Also, in other news, Ark Battle Mage, it's still happening, okay? And so is the other one

that I don't remember the name of. Celestial. There we go. And they matter! They're not cancelled. Yeah. Well, they might matter. Hopefully.

Or something will matter. Yeah. And Squarespace I'm just so tired of talking about Tesla Are you talking about the cameras? The footage just like Circulating in like meme chats It's especially bad because they have Internal cameras in their cars, don't they?

We- okay fine. Just- just add it to the list. We can talk about it. Okay. We don't have to. Yeah, it's just like I'm just so tired of talking about those guys. I agree. It is exhausting. I totally understand. We don't have to. It's like, in other news, they're like just as evil as everybody else and you shouldn't be a fanboy. In other news news still that Let's kick it off with monster energy

suing the developer of a game Just for having the word Monster in the title the best part. It's that it doesn't even have the word monster in the title it has the word monsters in the title so they're suing indie game developer glowstick entertainment over the title of its 2020 horror game dark deception monsters and mortals yes what the f**k their claim is that the game's branding is confusingly similar to their monster energy trademark maybe to people that drink monster that's not it that's not no no no no hold on a second this is the this is it luke yeah so they they put them both in like monster-y font, but it's not even a similar monster-y font.

Yeah, this is more of like, maybe like somewhere between Ninja and Diablo. Yeah, because like the line through the O and like stuff like that. And this is obviously hairy. Yeah. This is hair inspired. This is, these are nothing alike.

Get this. And it also has lots of other words in it. It doesn't even start, yes, it's lots of other words and it doesn't even start yes it's the biggest one but it doesn't even start with the word monster isn't even the biggest one i think mortals is equally tall okay it's the biggest one sure it's the biggest not by much though they're both they're both very large and get this they're going after them over the their studio's logo oh wait what glowstick Entertainment's logo looks like this. And Monster is insisting that they need to remove the color green from their logo. Oh, come on.

I didn't even know about that part. This is the kind of thing that I've got to look at and go, what is the 4D chess that they're playing here yeah it is the is the idea that there's no such thing as bad publicity and anything that gets people talking about monster in any context is inherently good because like let's think about this for a second their their beverage tastes like piss water, right? I haven't had a Monster in so long, I don't even know. I mean, I tried it recently for Short Circuit.

With that said, I'm not the biggest fan of energy drinks in general, but it was not cool. I'm sorry, no amount of extreme athletes doing whatever in their promotional materials is going to make drinking that cool. It might energize you or whatever else, but it doesn't. Like, who knows? Maybe it has efficacy. Yeah, you could find stuff that tastes better, for sure, for the same price or a lower one. There's also, like, insane amount of options in that realm.

Well, yeah, that's right. There's so many options. It's a super competitive space. So I'm looking at it going, the point of this obviously isn't that anyone will actually confuse your brand. The point of this can't be to try to draw in a new customer by how cool and magnanimously you are behaving.

So the only thing I can think of is that you've got enough people out there addicted to your particular formula of piss water that they're kind of going, oh, right, monster. I haven't had one of those in a while. By like beating up some indie company? I don't know!

They are definitely getting coverage. I knew about this before I saw it in the doc. So did I. I don't think we can even pull this, because I don't think we can trust people's, like, stated opinions, right? You'd have to trust their market actions, because those are very often not the same thing.

But, like, I wonder how effective that's going to be. Because there's no way in hell this would make me want to buy something from Monster. It would do the opposite. Now, here's the thing. This is not even a new behavior for them. They are notorious for these kinds of frivolous nonsense lawsuits. This is great in 2016 monster lost a suit against monster fish keepers

Which is that even is that even still a thing hey? We're heading to monster fish keepers calm. Let's go This is apparently an aquarium enthusiast forum Support and defend monster fish keepers. Okay, hold on a second. This is from support and defend it. This is an entire sub forum. We won.

Okay, this is from February of 2016. We've been battling with monster energy since 2014. I have beaten the monster. Monster Energy now has a ruling against its ludicrous and overreaching argument that it owns the word monster. Hopefully this will help the hundreds of other small businesses being bullied by them. Wow.

This is amazing. Shout out Neo Prodigy. For all I know, you kill cats in your spare time. But from this post alone, you seem pretty cool and I'm super into it apparently they've gone after pokemon for pocket monsters and they've gone after monster hunter saying that there is confused there could be confusion in 2022 they tried to block hundreds of trademarks including moody monster a therapy toy for mentally ill children, and

the logo of the Brookhaven Bears baseball team because it contains claw marks. Oh my! Hold on, I've got to see this logo now. I mean, they just, they just sound like I mean, they just sound like just idiots, you know? I don't know. This feels impossible to actually implement, impossible to police, impossible to manage. We probably shouldn't actually do it. But it would be cool if there was, like, some type of thing that would monitor and detect stuff like this and be like you are overly abusing

your rights blah blah blah blah blah and then you just lose your trademark. Just screw it. Like no you've done too much. You've gone too far. You're just trying to abuse the people. People in float plane are talking about Kylie Jenner versus Kylie Minogue. What?

In 2014 Kylie Jenner wanted to register her name as a trademark, but was prevented by singer Kylie Minogue Wait wait she wanted to register Kylie just Kylie You shouldn't be able to register names or just standard English words or words in any other language really I mean what I mean the thing is that you can at least... Oh, hold on. I've got the Brookhaven Bears logo. This doesn't even look like the monster slash.

Oh my god. It doesn't... It's not... The monster slash is very... It's like three railroad spikes. Like, this is... It's very specific. This is obviously inspired by a bear.

A bear swiping. Not a monster. obviously inspired by a bear, not a monster, and does not evoke the look of the Monster Energy logo at all. Now, the point is not that they think they're necessarily going to win this. A major reason for these lawsuits, aside from protecting your trademark, because is it trademarks that if you don't protect them that you can you can lose them so aside from protecting your trademark is just to um just to bully and intimidate others into giving in because of the threat of a long and expensive legal battle

apparently though glowstick entertainment plans to fight the lawsuit in court and is currently pushing for a summary dismissal uh the discussion question here i mean is pretty much what we've already talked about what is the motivation from monster's perspective wouldn't the risk of consumers seeing this and going wow what a bunch of jerkwads outweigh any possible benefit. But then, you know, I got to ask, like, you drink monster energy. Like, your standards are pretty low, I guess. So, no, I'm okay. I have a question for you.

I actually don't care. You drink whatever energy drink you want. When are you suing Linus Bicycles? Right? Right? Or, oh, man, there's this other... Linux sounds pretty similar. There could be confusion.

There has been confusion. We have documented confusion. That legitimately has caused confusion. We should sue the Linux Foundation. I get called Linux on a fairly regular basis, especially by people who second language is English. Because it's just, I don't know s X what? Same thing right you want it you want you want to lose a lot of fans?

Let's go go sue the Linux foundation that'll go really well This is just stupid. I hate it. Yeah, I Don't know in some case like I like I wasn't even I wasn't even super mad over the the dumb tech pouch thing with peak designs like our peak design whatever it is I I wasn't even that mad because it's like yeah trademarking just a descriptive name is something we could probably fight and it's super dumb but I don't care now it's the tech sack and it's selling great like it just it's a funnier name anyway doesn't matter not necessarily a better name but it's super dumb, but I don't care. Now it's the tech sack, and it's selling great. It just doesn't matter. It's not necessarily a better name, but it's a funnier name. This is far, far more frivolous.

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Apparently, they actually filed against Ubisoft over the title of the game Gods and Monsters, and Ubisoft did change the name to immortals Phoenix rising Ending the dispute my understanding though is that in the games industry it is extremely common to just like have to change the name of your game in the lead-up to launch just because it's Such a well. There's so many. Yeah. Yeah, it's such a... Well, there's so many games.

Yeah, it's such a crowded space. And when this genuinely happens, by the way, we've played them. They're kind of funny sometimes. But people will take Unity demos and spend, I don't know, a day or less editing it and then just put it on Steam and sell it. When you can do that with any number of

names for your games yeah like the the chance that a name that is similar to the name of the game that you're going to release is already out because of any reason is extremely high very very high so in summary monster sucks yeah choose another energy drink if you drink energy drinks yeah not promoting any particular one just don't drink that one why is Dennis here I

I'm not gonna say anything can you smell it as a present for you oh here it is uncle that looks familiar, right? Do you know Uncle Linus? Yes, yes, I'm aware of Uncle Linus. I believe he's brought you a bag of Uncle Linus potatoes.

It smells like potatoes. It smells like potatoes. Is it just potatoes? Take a look. There's something in there. There's something in there. Reach on in, Linus, and see what you can find. Put your hand in the bag.

Okay, that's making it sound so much worse. Yeah, this is making me extremely uncomfortable. By the way, the Uncle Linus' number one choice Farm Fresh hoodie is way more comfortable than it looks. I saw so many people confused by this thing. It is not actually made of burlap. I was a little bit confused about it because one of the photos makes it look like it's burlap. No. Okay.

It's 100% cotton. Yeah. It's super comfy. It's a real product, and it's available while supplies last on lttstore.com. We still have some of them, but we've... We also have this. Yeah, we... Well, this, we're probably going to have to cut off orders at some point because they're back orders.

And until we cut off orders, we're not going to be cut off orders at some point because they're back orders, and until we cut off orders, we're not gonna be able to place the order to fill the back orders. So yeah, that's the Uncle Linus's... Thank you for that, Dennis. Yes, you're in the frame. Dennis, do you want me to put up the card? Okay. There's potatoes. Hold on, there's more. There's more potatoes. Okay. Okay, Luke, I've got a potato for you. Okay. Oh, that... Potato. I need's a touch more. Okay. Um, okay. Luke, I've got a potato for you. Okay.

Oh, that- Potato. I need to save the laptop. Okay. There's a letter. Okay, there's a letter. You were supposed to find that in that giant sack of potatoes? Really? Yeah.

That was- Wow, good job Linus. Okay, um, on the back of the letter is me taking a bite of a raw potato. Ah, beautiful. Please read. Today we are doing something special. We know that the WAN show has been running late and causing you to miss dinner. So I hooked you guys up with a failing company called Uncle Linus' Potato Farm, which has generously provided us with their signature Uncle Linus' recipe fries. By the way, you can get this hoodie at

lttstore.com you will be served six different plates of fries from six different restaurants including uncle linus's what on earth is the one from uncle linus's you need to guess where each plate is from we will start with the easier ones first. All right, here we go. Okay. We got plate one and two. Well, um... Oh, no. Okay, plate one is McDonald's.

Yeah. Whoa, you haven't even tried McDonald's. You have to try them first. Yeah, but it is McDonald's, though. It's just obviously McDonald's, though, right? Yeah. Here, give them the shoots they can write down. The audience can't see it, either.

You're not allowed. I'm allowed to... I'm allowed so well immediately. Give them the sheets they can write down the audience can't see it either yeah I'm allowed to die my love so well talk immediately. I'm allowed to do whatever I want We both knew both of those though Okay, well hold on let's at least put them where people can see them Why are you bringing more of them out? Wait, maybe not. I might take that back. I have no idea for that one. What the f*** is that other one? Yeah, I have no idea. That looks like just tater tots and like minced beef. Yeah, what am I- okay? Do we need a pen? Why are you bringing them all out now? And then- oh they can see it now, okay? What is happening? Yeah, how does this game work?

I want you guys to try them and test and taste it. And oh they can see it now. Okay, what is happening? Yeah, how does this game work? Yeah McDonald's Wow Okay, so Okay, you're supposed to keep it to yourself. Okay. You're supposed to keep it to yourselves. Okay, well we did it a lot. We're supposed to keep it to ourselves! We haven't even explained the rules yet. Oh, okay. Well, you keep telling me I haven't eaten it yet, but it's not like you give me any to eat.

I'm not in charge here. Okay, what do you want to try first? I want to try... I like McDonald's fries. I'll have a McDonald's fry. Thanks. Thanks for the McDonald's fries. Yeah, I'm good If I if okay if I I will I will taste the ones that I that I don't definitely know okay That is definitely McDonald's okay. Can I have no one a number two that one's definitely this is a verse of McDonald's fries have looked the same literally my entire life. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Can I see number three?

That looks like it has a little piece of apple in the top. This one I don't know. What am I even looking at? I think it's supposed to be cheese. Is that chewed up gum? Is this supposed to be poutine? Is it like a cheese curd at some point? Do you remember one of them is Uncle Linus' recipe? Cheese curd.

So you never know what it is. Oh, I see. Um, Uncle Linus' recipe. What do I say if I guarantee you I have no idea what that one, that one, or that one are? But I'm 90% sure I know what this one, this one, and that one are. You're competing for scores. Yeah, we're apparently competing. But my choice, what are the options?

The options, okay. The fries. Yeah, all fast food restaurants. Yeah. Okay, but I don't even know. All the common ones. They're all you can find in the mall or down on the road. I don't even think I can name

six. Yeah. Wendy's. So the first two were definitely very easy. I don't even know who makes a poutine. I don't know if this is supposed to be a poutine. There's definitely cheese curds. I don't think that eating this is going to help me. What is this?

It didn't. Um, okay. Well, here you go, Luke. Um, okay. I'll try that in a second. I'm not going to be able to... Okay. Um... Crap. I don't even know. Alright, sure. I'm just gonna- I'm gonna start just writing common things. Um...

Okay, so this one, uh, is number four. Mm-hmm. Right. I see. Okay. I'm not gonna eat that. Um... Oh, now, oh! Are you guys seeing this? Should we switch to one of the other cams? Here, hold on. I got it. If you hold it up. There you are.

Oh, I forgot my hat. Okay, are you... The Linus cam is not working? That is the Linus cam. Expected behavior. This is the Linus cam? Well, where's the wide cam? What?

Oh, I know why that's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Linus cam. Dennis, is it possible that more than one are from the same place? No, I know why that's happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Linus can. Uh, shit. Oh, there we go. Oh, there's that one. Dennis, is it possible that more than one are from the same place? There we go. No, they are all from... Okay. ...restaurants.

I didn't make any of them. No, no, no, no, no. I'm wondering, it's like, is it possible that you ordered, like, normal fries and also poutine fries from the same place? No, they're all separate. Okay. They're all separate. Here you go. What the... Uh, could I have number five what are we doing I don't know but

please number five what are you doing Dennis uncle and this is annoying he just wanted to fire that's why I Anus is failing. Oh, this is so cold. Is there a hair on it? Ah, eating the hair. That's nothing!

It's part of the experience of having fast food from this place. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Sure. Okay, and then the last one last one I Feel like I have no idea what number is that one six? Have you not written down anything yet Luke?

This is pretty easy like if you can you guys can tell by the look of it no I'm just drawing a blank I can't even remember what fast food restaurants there are. I have the same opinion I have the exact same opinion that I had before I tried any of them I'm ninety percent sure I know what three are I still think

they are what they are I'm a hundred percent sure I have no idea what the other three are because I've never ordered a hundred percent sure I have no idea what the other three are Because I've never ordered fast food poutine. Okay, no clue. All right. Well, let's get this over with hold on Okay three which one even is three That is a truly unimpressive Putin okay, you guys have to lock in your answer. My answers are locked in they're written down. I'm ready He's trying

I'm sorry guys. I had no idea what was going on here. You can see why channel super fun didn't survive It's off script as well as well okay okay you guys very obvious okay give me the it's locked down it's it's fine you know who's who's did you just we know from the writing so number one this one you guys already knows Madonna yeah we knew before we ate it yeah and I view yeah yeah we figured out a thing and then number three is from Wendy's. We can't even see. Oh, okay. Well, failed that one.

It's a poutine without the meat. What? Poutine doesn't have meat, but go on. The meat juice. Gravy. Meat juice. I'm calling that meat juice for the rest of my life. Number four is Uncle Linus' recipe.

Yeah, because that's not french fries. That's tater tots with some... A lot of salt. A lot of salt. How was Uncle Linus' recipe? I hated everything. I mean, they're cold. That doesn't help. I didn't like a single thing that I just ate. It was garbage. Did you try Uncle Linus' recipe?

Yeah. Yeah, I... Oh, did you make that? I'm sorry, Dennis. I- I- It's cold. It's- You don't- you don't want heated potato products that are now cold. That is always bad. Is there meat juice in that one?

Number five, New York Fries. Did I get that one too? What?! I'm not- I haven't eaten at New York Fries ever. Not once. Number six is... What's bad? What's the penalty? KFC. KFC, okay. I got roasted. Number six is... What's bad? What's the penalty? KFC.

KFC, okay. Yeah. I didn't even guess the right three extra restaurants. You have Tim Hortons? Tim Hortons doesn't have f***ing fries. I don't know! I don't go there! So... I guess, uh, Luke, this is your dinner for tonight,

so I'm leaving. Oh, grr.. Oh, crap. Thank you, Dennis. They can't hear you. The mic's over here, Dennis. Sorry. I thought I mic'd up. That's Uncle Linus' recipe.

That's why Uncle Linus is failing. I see. Okay, so. Understandable. Well deserved. Buy a hoodie, support Uncle Linus, and something this too. Thanks for that. LTTstore.com This is a real job we all have.

This is a real thing I actually pay people to do apparently. Wow. Thanks, Dennis. That was... Alright. Someone's flaming my opinion on heated potato products now being cold being bad And they said cold never had a British roast potato cold Are you seriously bragging about the quality of British food? Is that actually happening as a person? I honestly find that offensive Yeah, that's not what it's for, Dennis. It's like a... Look at that. Okay, all right.

Thank you. Sorry, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. There we go. Thank you for the creative sponsor. Okay. Are we doing the rest of the sponsor integrations now, Dennis? My opinion on so many celebrity chefs being from Britain is because they have to be really good to make the food palatable.

Ouch. Sorry. Thank you for your sack, Dennis. I am- I am actually really impressed with myself for getting five out of those six right. I thought you got all of them. I don't- I don't even know how well I did, but I did poorly. I think I only got two. Yeah, I haven't eaten fries at any of these places other than McDonald's and A&W in at least five years. New York fries, I've never eaten fries from. Where is a New York fries?

In the mall. It's always in the food courts. Like I've seen it a hundred times, but I've just never, I've never eaten there. That's what I meant with like not knowing the options. I was just like, I have literally no clue. Like I'm a subway boy or like I'll usually get like Panda Express or Equivalent or like

one of those places where you just pick all the stuff by weight And then they just like stir fry it for you like that's that's my go-to. I'm never gonna be like yeah I want really expensive fries. I love how Dennis's idea for us for a segment was to give us I'll word it the way Joe just worded it to give us cold mall fries The way Joe just worded it to give us cold mall fries It's like none of those were even mildly warm, but they were all like actually cool No, there was a bit of warmth in the one that had the like hair on it crotch You rushed to six places.

I even got them like ten minutes ago. Yeah, okay, alright. The hair is not my hair. The hair is not your hair. I believe you, it wasn't black. So that's good. It was a little bit curly, so I don't know that it was a head hair, but it was something. Different hair.

Different part. Different head. Okay, why don't we, why don't we let Luke pick what we're going to talk about next. Let's move on. Let's talk about what everyone thought was my fault for fairly reasonable reasons, which was TechLinked just getting deleted at like four in the morning. I got to sleep through it this time. Yeah. Which was kind of amazing.

Yeah. Can I just say shout out and great job. Everyone who was involved in the mitigation there. Yeah. Yeah. There was a few points in time where we were like, should we wake up? But there was nothing really additional that you guys could do.

Cause it like, it wasn't a security thing this time. Okay, go back to square one. At about four in the morning-ish, I don't know the exact time because I was not the person that caught it, but at about four in the morning-ish, the earliest message that I got,

I believe, was at 4.10. The TechLinked channel was just straight up obliterated out of nowhere there was there was no like yeah there was no like progression of channel flags or anything it was just gone it was it was yoted at four in the morn i don't know yeah um we we get a few messages about it eventually colton calls me at like six in the morning or something It is like hey like what the heck's going on We look into it doesn't seem to be any security problems or anything like that the channels just gone We're like what the heck eventually we message

Google and they got it fixed pretty quickly I think we're still maybe dealing with some issues or it was recently resolved where comments weren't there for a while Yeah, there seemed to be some missing comments or something like that. So the channel's still kind of getting properly restored. For all I know, that may be a remnant of the original hijack though, because I don't know if all the comments

were correctly restored in the first place. It's definitely worse now if it was bad before. Sure, because I've seen some weird behavior on LTT where the comment might be there if I view it publicly but it's not showing up in the dashboard there is definitely some problems from back then but techlink had like no comments on anything right it was it was like super super bad um so maybe it got like worse maybe it compounded i don't know so it's still it's still sort of being restored or maybe it's done now i haven't checked on it in about 24 hours um but yeah it just got it just got yeeted and i don't believe google has made an official statement on what happened i am fairly

confident luke has a theory yeah i don't know but that's just a theory so wait sorry what channel are we on such a um i think they they listened to the cries of a bunch of us, including Linus and I, saying that these streams should be caught with content ID. Way sooner. Yeah. Especially because it's always the same stupid stream. So once you've identified one of these scammer streams, I thought that's the whole point of content ID,

is that you're supposed to take down Harmful or infringing content yeah, and yet this Stupid Elon crypto stream scam thing really running rampant on the platform. Yeah doing nothing about it Yeah, so I think they did actually start doing something about it kudos by the way. Yes, that is good However, but it detected a bunch of privated versions of those streams. So videos that, like, yeah, you should probably get rid of it eventually, but, like, it's private. It's not doing anything. No one can access it.

Yeah, I actually had left the archive of that stream up in our channel for, like, the memes. And I had meant to post on social about it, like, hey, you guys remember this classic live stream? Like, I don't know. Yeah, like, it doesn't really matter anymore. Yeah, once it's private. Yeah but content ID you can still search private videos Yeah, and the reason for that is that many people will upload copyrighted content movies Privately just so that they can like watch it outside of their house Oh, this is my version of Plex huh like yeah just uploading stuff to YouTube. Can't use it that way.

So it should. I'm not complaining about it searching private videos. But it detected not just our channel, not just TechLinked, but also a bunch of other people's channels. Because after it happened, I had a bunch of people reach out and be like, yeah, my channel got nuked too for this exact same thing. And luckily, it seems like across the board, Google is responding very quickly and getting people's accounts back. Which is not the most characteristic so i appreciate that it is happening that's good this is an improvement happy um but yeah no official statement pretty sure content id flagged it and they just started nuking channels um which you know i understand the world is not one time zone but it sucked that

that happened in four in the morning at four in the morning for us. It also sucked that there was no warning or flag or heads up or anything whatsoever. You just obliterate this channel out of nowhere. I am constantly amazed with these big companies how it feels like three quarters of the time there's too many people, too many moving parts, and they just get cog jammed and they can't move forward or do anything and then out of nowhere It just seems like something super fly-by-night just like zooms in just there was no oversight or thought there's like oh yeah We should contact ID them good idea boom and just blow everything up like We had three copies of the stream Sitting in our channel it was what so where's our way strikes to maybe?

It wasn't three though. It wasn't three It's it's it's mind-blowing And like other channels that we had had private versions of that stream as well, but those didn't get taken down Which is like? Okay, yeah, so like did they run it and then realize like oh crap I'm not sure we didn't think about this use case and then run it and then realize, like, oh, crap. I'm not sure. We didn't think about this use case and then stop it and it didn't get all the way through. I don't know what happened.

But, yeah, this was not a new issue. This was an artifact of the original issue that happened a couple weeks ago. Just, like, re-biting us. And it's been fixed already. Everything's good. We're fine. This is hilarious. YouTube chat is actually moving slow enough that I can see it for a change

Watch them try to retroactively sue Sesame Street for Cookie Monster. Yeah, anyway, sorry just let's we can keep moving So anyway kudos YouTube for getting this sorted out, but also YouTube you can't just you can't just like You can't just delete channels like that I mean they can I guess but Probably shouldn't Yeah, probably shouldn't Yeah

Let's go ahead and jump into our next topic here which is going to be And like it would probably be less destructive if instead of deleting the channel if you got rid of that content and then like instead of deleting the channel if you got rid of that content and then like locked it so it couldn't upload for a certain amount of time but people could still view it and externally it didn't look like anything was wrong and then you resolve it with the creator instead of just be like oh okay we can restore it but all your comments are gone like just maybe slightly less destructive actions could be cool um i know you can do that type of stuff because you can stop people from being able to stream

Yeah, so if you can just stop them from also being able to post anything so community updates or vods or anything else shorts Whatever if you just stop all posting capabilities until it's resolved like a read-only state that would be a way better solution Yeah, it honestly may not be that simple though. It might not I don't know you know from experience It's gonna be more complicated. I seem simple. Why can't people edit a comment under a floatplane video well after all these years after Hardware on box can now on the after hardware unboxed Yeah, asked for comment editing drink Ltt store calm I need some Uncle Linus's moonshine. I'm teasing him because we have had some issues with transcoding,

and it has been a frustration from the folks over at Hardware Unboxed that they can't edit comments. But there is some good news. We haven't figured out the fix for transcoding, but we do have a Band-Aid that has been applied. And we're working on it. We'll get a a fix and on the comment editing side of things that is actually working on the beta site for floatplane beta dot floatplane com don't put in the WWW that is apparently a amateur move. So... Yeah, I tried to navigate with www and it did not work.

Now, to be clear, I did not type in www like a baby boomer. I just was on floatplane.com and clicked the URL and then added beta. The www was already there.

I just didn't remove it. I wish you wish you forgot that you did that oh no oh No, I do not search the World Wide Web sir WWW dot oh it would have been great if you forgot, but yeah nope i knew you were i knew you were gonna go after me for that yeah why would you type in ww i didn't call you a boomer nope nope not even the web over there mr linus not even speaking of things that are i don't know i don't have a good segue for this intel yeah intel arc battle mage and intel arc celestial are still happening tsmc has reported received uh has reportedly received a large number of orders to produce chips for intel's next gen battle mage gpus this means that all three major gpu brands are now contracting tsmc silicon thank you linus

so i was doing it subconsciously I'm one of those people that does this like I tend to kind of go like this as I'm reading along to things it drives Luke absolutely crazy because it does this on his screen and just like so his name just goes all over place and it will block words and I'm already I'm I already have a hard time reading because I'm dyslexic so then have a hard time reading because I'm Dyslexic so then not only is my brain just going like with all the words and letters and stuff But now it's blocking them So when he couldn't read reportedly received a large he said like a large number of orders or something like that

And I was like oh crap. I'm doing that thing again So my options now are to stop doing it or to double down. He did, the immediate reaction was he moved his mouse somewhere else, and then I saw it pause there for a second. I was like, he's coming back. And then he just starts bouncing all over the place, and I was like, oh my goodness. But really, this was the right thing to do. This was the kind thing to do. Because now, instead of letting them believe that you think they got a large number of orders I mean from who obviously only from Intel you know now I can explain why you tripped over that So I actually did you a kindness. Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, yeah

Anyways all three major GPU brands are now contracting TSMC Silicon for their GPUs. But it also means that Intel hasn't given up on a second generation of graphics cards, as was previously reported. Huh? I said that one wasn't me. What one was it? Hasn't give up. Did I say that? My bad.

Hasn't given up on a second generation of graphics cards, as was previously reported by, you know, some other outlets. By some people. Yeah. By some more. This, by some more. This is why. And there's no point singling out anybody. Yeah.

But this is why we tend to not really report rumor as. Not as big of a fan of it. A thing that's going to happen. Yeah. My tendency is like we'll occasionally say, okay, yeah, this is leaked or this looks like it could be shaping up to something. But there are certain outlets that have a tendency to report these things as on the spectrum of fact and fiction, a lot closer to fact. And we're just kind of of the mind like we'll review it when it gets here because unless it's something that you can buy there's not really a whole lot that matters that we can

say about it right now but it looks like if these again i mean this is a rumor but industry rumors of of large orders being placed don't come from don't come from nowhere, whereas rumors of this entire division's going to be shut down can come from just people's anxiety or whatever else, but orders are orders. And if this order went through, it looks like Intel is going to stay the course and Battlemage and Celestial are going to come in 2024 and 2026, respectively, and hopefully do something about the way that NVIDIA is just dictating the pricing of GPUs.

It's surprising to me because for a while I felt like they did see consoles as a threat, and I felt like that was what they were attacking with 30 series. But now it feels like they're just kind of sitting there going they'll pay And if they won't pay today Then they'll pay in a generation or two when our like mainstream entry-level GPU is on par with these consoles anyway Yeah, and it's they're just like, they're playing this waiting game where eventually they will produce something at a price and performance level

that is attractive enough for you to upgrade. The Intel cards though, like when we did our challenge, it was pretty okay for a first attempt. Yeah. It wasn't perfect, but it's a first-gen product. Yeah.

And you're always going to have some problems. And it got a lot better. And most of the issues that I have, it got way better over time. Those driver upgrades were big. Yep. And a lot of the issues that I had at least are solvable, 100%. So if they keep the path, it could be okay. I have absolutely not lost faith in intel gpus i think their biggest

problem right now is just that they need resizable bar in order to perform anywhere near half decent yeah it's a little wacky and the positioning of a750 and a770 would make it perfect for like 69 gaming pc upgrades you know buying an office tower tower off of eBay and turning it into a cheap game. None of those are going to support rebar. Yep. So it's like, it's the perfect product for a hypothetical customer that doesn't exist, right? Yeah, yeah. And it's frustrating.

But down the line. Yeah. Maybe it shifts a little bit. Yeah. Before we even tried them, before they were actual cards that people could even use, we had already been saying that the ones to be more excited for was Battlemage and Celestial. And then we tried it and we were like, yeah, kind of what we said before. We've had this joke for like actually the greater part

of 10 years about how we should have we ever done it we should just do a gpu review before the gpu comes out yeah yeah you know that literally was a suggestion that luke made i think about nine years ago yeah i think you pitched it as an april fools maybe where we upload a review of a gpu just completely straight faced yeah graphs and everything yeah just based on like okay we know they're gonna jack the price by 50 to 100 dollars we know they over overstate the performance by a little bit yeah stuff like that yeah we like invent a couple of like kind of cool technologies or something that seemed kind of feasible I gotta say fact has become stranger than fiction like I don't think you can't trust videos or photos We wouldn't know I I mean in terms of like GPU features. Oh yeah back then what I have would I have come up with frame gen

Or like even ansel probably not yeah, right or like up. Oh shoot. What's the? Remix what's the one where you can take older games and and oh yeah I don't remember the name but I know what you're talking I can't remember I think it's remix I I wouldn't I wouldn't have even made I wouldn't have even invented that um so it's all it's all really cool stuff it's just I can think of things right now I think from a purely performance standpoint we probably wouldn't be that far off. Yeah. I don't know if I was cynical enough to think it could go this bad.

That's the only thing that I think would keep us from being very, very accurate. Yeah. I just like I think a lot of our predictions on how this Intel GPU thing was going to go was actually pretty good. Yeah, I don't know. The thing about predictive content is there's going to be a number of people that are going to just be super mad about it. And it has all the exact same problems as rumors, which is why we've never done it. Well, no, we have done it. I don't know if you remember this.

I'm not sure if you were really on the content side anymore at this point. we're really on the content side anymore at this point but we did a review of an upcoming really exciting entry-level cpu by taking the mid-tier or the high-end one or something like that oh and artificially limiting it in the bios we disabled the cores we set the turbos and we were like here's our preview pre-review pre-review well i-review. Well, I think... And people were so mad. And the best part is that once the real product came out, and we were... Like, spot on. Bang on.

Yeah. Crack it. You still shouldn't have done that. Okay, but we were very clear about what we were doing. It wasn't just rumor mill random guessing. It was an educated guess, and it was interesting. I'm sure you're aware of this, but I'm not necessarily sure that they are. And I don't think we did this, but I know back in the day that publications would do official reviews of CPUs that way.

I know that, like, TOMS used to take engineering samples and do reviews early like that, but i don't know of anyone doing that i remember reports of sites chopping off cores and stuff to represent lower end cpus that they were not able to get their hands on because they would have had to like buy it or whatever this totally that's hilarious this is a long time ago i don't remember very very long time ago over 10 years type of stuff but i remember that happening um That's awesome. Brutal. Anyways. In summary, Intel Arc Battle Mage sounds good. And I'm excited. I'm actually very happy about that because I

ended the Intel thing kind of frustrated about some of the problems that I had, but very hopeful for the future. And a bunch of people were saying like, oh no, they're not going to do it. So I'm happy that they are going to do it. Yeah, confirmed. Confirmed. Intel GPU division is going away. No, i don't think so most of what intel has shut down in their restructuring has been um less promising technologies should we talk about this yeah i think we probably should um here let's get the luke let's get the luke cam going here You'll have to lift it up a little bit higher

We shot a short today right before the WAN show that is kind of Inspired by that scene in office space where they beat the crap out of the printer Do you want to explain what you're holding there luke yeah, so not to sneeze or that was yeah? That was all the fragments of the M.2 SSD. It doesn't really exist anymore. It got obliterated. The M.2 SSD, you say? Yeah, so from the infected computer,

we're going to save the motherboard. There's some percentage of concern that it could have gotten a a something in the bios uh so we're gonna deal with the bios and move on save the motherboard uh but the ssd was a was a no save so it got curse smashered um and it was fun i i just sent it with a bat into effectively bricks on the ground uh and that didn't feel very good and then I reacted very negatively about that and then Dan runs up and is like all right time for me to go and just does the exact same thing Luke's playing it up it's fine and now my hand still hurts see I played baseball as a kid I knew it was gonna hurt so i didn't play baseball but i

knew it was gonna hurt yeah but like the thing is you can like you can hold it real tight and that makes it okay ish yeah like it you know i don't know yeah um so when i so i've watched you like harming yourself i'm kind of like you know for somebody so athletic I never played baseball yeah no no I see that generally never did yeah I know I could tell I wasn't like that it did hurt though I mean there's there's there's video evidence of how how upset Luke was and oh it hurt I mean I have like broken like. Yeah, no, I believe you because you went hard. And the thing is, like, no matter how jacked your arms are or whatever, it's not like the blood vessels in your hand...

Yeah, your hand is still dealing with the, like, shock. ...are any stronger. So, okay, the reason why I went so hard was because we just originally had it, like, laying flat on a brick. So I was, like, hitting this with a with a bat like nothing's really gonna happen to it Yeah, I still wanted something to happen to it, and then I missed The best part is is Luke looking at the drive after going like did I even hit it and there's this Red mark on the brick like three four inches away I'm like no dog I didn't see that because it was so far away from the drive which was even even better

but that yeah, eventually we like stood it on its end and then You hit it a little harder and then kind of stomped on it and stuff and now it now it yeah It has ceased to exist. Yeah, it'll so that drive will never harm anybody again nope uh realistically it is possible that we could have reformatted it and reused it worth it's not worth it's a 256 gig what is that a p5 or something like that crucial p5 that that's what we use as our standard workstation drive and it's like for the amount of work and the amount of cost if whatever malware that's on there um whatever malware that's on there if it's somehow managed to get into the firmware or something. I don't know it is Implausible right it probably didn't but it is not

Impossible it's it's it's actually like because we had some like tracking on its actions while it was on the computer and stuff. It's like Extremely unlikely that it did But it's non-zero. Yeah. So like... The motherboard, we're going to hope that it didn't get into the BIOS. And we're going to keep the board because it's like... Even if it did get in the BIOS, we can save it.

Yeah, we need to talk about some of the changes that you're going to make as CTO. Luke had a little freak out over our standardized workstations. For everyone! That's okay So you have to understand that there's a lot of people that you don't see on camera all the time that do work that is like genuinely Just in a browser like we make this meme about like really high-end gaming PCs uses Facebook machines It's effectively that but But, like, worse? Because they have $800 motherboards?

I think they're $600. I don't... Are they? I think so. Why did I get a range? Asus? Z690WS or something like that. ProArt. Yeah, ProArt Z690 Creator.

What's one of these worth? It's also possible that the prices are jacked up now. $680. Okay, but on Amazon.ca, it's $477 Canadian. Oh, I'm looking at $680 Canadian. I don't know what to tell you. Here. I mean, here's my screen.

Am I looking at the wrong one? Oh, yeah. Okay. Only one left in stock yeah, whereas. Oh, you're looking at the a you're looking at the rise in one They're no we don't have rice. Okay. I think we're lga 1700 right now because Risen seven didn't make sense when we did our last standardization or something something something I can't remember either way they, for a business computer, including mine, like when this all happened, I looked through the window of mine and was like, what? Like, why do I need this?

Why do I need an $800? I show up to work. I open up my multiple browsers because I have a bunch of different browsers with different profiles. It's all cool. I like how it's set up. And then I have my different chat programs. And that's all I do. I was laughing at work the other day because I came in and needed to have a meeting right away. And my computer was doing this really long Windows update. And I was like, what the?

And then it finally finished and I got in and I didn't realize until like 5 p.m. it had updated to Windows 11. I had no idea. Because all I do is like use my browsers and other stuff. Like I'm not. I don't need an $800 motherboard. There is no way. I will tell you this. I will tell you that while I didn't spec these, I did sign off on them. But I was asked, do you want everyone to have 10

gig because there are a lot of people that do access the server for stuff and I was like well I don't know we sunk cost fallacy we already invested in 10 gig infrastructure everywhere version of sunk hold on hold on no that's the sunk cost fallacy. We were already in it. We're already in it for 10 gig infrastructure everywhere. We might as well have 10 gig capable clients. So I was like, ah, sure. Because 10 gig cards aren't actually that expensive anymore.

Yeah, okay, here. So I want to add this in as well. Yeah. We have $800 motherboards. No, no, but you keep saying $800. Hold on. Okay, $650, $477, whatever. The price that I got from the person who buys them internally was $600 to $800. Okay, $650, $477, whatever. The price that I got from the person who buys them internally was $600 to $800.

Okay, so hold on. So that's where we've been buying them. So I don't care what their current cost is, because what we spent on them is around that amount. Now hold on. Now let me jump in here. My understanding, when I signed off on them, was that Asus was giving us a sweetheart of a deal on them though okay sure so my understanding was that we weren't paying that much for them now what i don't know is if that deal continued in perpetuity or if we have just been buying and if we like had to

use them for all of the systems because again you know what if you have some argument for the video editors because they need cranked out machines, right? Like okay, I don't maybe there's some feature on this board Maybe they need 10 gigs because they're pulling huge video files off the servers all this type of stuff There's arguments that I feel like could be made here. Are you getting for the CFO job? No, but keeping budgets under control is like a thing that matters for everyone not just the CFO anyways Was I gonna say yeah, but but we have so few, like, spare systems... Yeah.

...that Jaden's talking in floatplane chat about how he was working off a Steam Deck for a while. Okay. That had to be voluntary. No. Shut up. And it only has one monitor output. No. And now he's working off of a NUC no I mean we have other no we have like random mini people like there's a mini forum we have a shelf

of servers whatever yeah I mean okay well what are you doing to fix it I'm gonna be doing something I'm trying to work slowly through this giant insane pile of mess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And why was a Windows 11 update allowed to randomly apply to one of our computers? Don't you have any policies? We're going to have to look into that. Policies in place. That is actually something I wondered about, because I was like, does our antivirus solution work just as well on each one? I don't know.

This is something that has now been flagged, because my computer just randomly updated, and I was like, wow, that doesn't seem right. We have outgrown our cavalier approach to infrastructure management. Yeah. The thing is that in the early days, it was mostly just a bunch of tech bros who were pretty much expected to perform all their own system maintenance. who were pretty much expected to perform all their own system maintenance. So, I mean, I'm not going to say it was a bad thing for us to standardize our workstations.

It actually does make life easier. Should the workstations have been standardized on the particular components? Maybe not. There were times that I made calls to just go with the standard component versus one that we could get a deal on. We used the P400A, I think it is, for our standard workstations. To just go with the standard component versus one that we could get a deal on like fan tech we use the p

400 a I think it is for our standard workstations and Fan text was giving us like a wild deal on them for a long time And then they were like you know what you guys are like you need way too many Yeah, you need you need pallets of cases on a regular basis. How are you hiring so many people? That's fair. You're just gonna have to, you're just going to have to buy cases. I was like, Corsair wanted to play ball and send us cases, but I made the call to just buy the Phanteks ones. Not because the Corsair case isn't as good.

In fact, the 4000D was, I think, the most popular case in Intel Extreme Tech upgrades. Great case. The reason I made the call was the whole point of the standardized workstations is that when someone's motherboard dies... You can get trained on that thing and then get really fast with it and stuff. You're just going in,

out, we just know everything about it, it's good to go, don't have to think about it, parts are easily swappable from one to the other. That was the whole point. So I was like, no, we'll just buy cases, whatever, if it comes to that. Andable from one to the other that was the whole point so i was like no we'll just buy cases whatever if it comes to that um and it came to that and that's fine um whether that motherboard was what made the most sense i don't know um but i was busy and colton was supposed to do it this this lines up a lot of the problems here's the bus here's Colton

Yeah, anyways a lot of the problems here come down to like Yeah, it was like Sort of sort of done someone was working on it, and then you know that to make videos or something yeah, and now we're here Yeah, I mean that that really is it so everyone kind of was in the early days was expected to manage their own stuff It didn't matter if anything was standardized because it's like Ed's editing station died I'd be like why are you talking to me about it? You fix it like yeah, go get some new RAM or whatever I think there's a pile over there. You didn't have an inventory system

there's no tracking for anything back in the very early days and Anyone who wasn't comfortable upgrading their computer a lot lot of the time I would just do it. So that's not sustainable anymore. SushiScent in the floatplane chat asks, why does everyone use desktops still? Especially with hybrid work environment, most orgs give laptops nowadays. That's a good question.

Have you found laptop reliability to be subpar? I found laptops, okay. So a lot of this depends on how long you want that device to be subpar? I found laptop. Okay. So a lot of this depends on how long you want that device to really be used for. I guess that's fair. And some of it also comes into, like, if we're allowing people to work from home, you know, the problem that happened recently with the browser session hijack. Yeah. with the browser session hijack. If we're allowing people to log into work accounts on personal computers in order to be able to work at home, that's a huge security concern

because of things like browser session hijacks. What if their sense is high when they're working because we have this trained into them, but then they open something in their personal email? Right, or on their personal time. No, but that's what I mean, sorry. Say it's a Saturday and they get an email and they're like, what is this? And they open it and then they get a browser session hijack.

Right. And it, it maybe has a work account open in it or something. Right. Like. So having, you're kind of saying having that air gap, just like that, that physical separation between my work computer and my everything else. Because Floatplane has stuff in place for this. Right. where we have

either you need to be working on a separate partition or a separate drive so you have like a work portion right um i don't know if people want to do that with all of their home pcs for us like we send everyone home with ssds that they have to use for work like that's maybe not a great solution for everyone it kind of works for floatplane i don't know if it really scales beyond that i don't think if it really scales beyond that. I don't think so. Maybe if people want to work from home. If we had like a dedicated help desk team to manage all that, then sure, maybe.

But I don't think that's happening. Yeah, like it's good. There's a bunch of stuff we need to figure out. Dr. O in floatplane chat asks, also for you VDI types out there, something, something, Horizon software plus support, what's the cost? I don't know. That's not my question. in floatplane chat asks also for you vdi types out there something something horizon software plus support what's the cost i don't know that's not my question but you know how feasible given the 10 gig infrastructure would be just going to thin clients all of my experience with them clients is extremely negative yeah that's fair um it's gotta have come a long way though with

virtualization being as good as i'm not shooting it down because of exactly that. And it could have not only just come a long way, but it could also be that the implementations that I used were just poorly done. A lot of the versions that I've tried are at like schools, where in one case, I know the IT team just doesn't care at all. And in the other case, it was very, very low budget

because it was like my high school in the boonies and I know what the tech budget was and it was zero. So like the fact that it worked at all was pretty sweet. And that was also a really long time ago at this point. So like maybe it's come really far. But I always hear about problems with it, like tons of problems with it. They have thin clients at my hospital. They literally take two minutes to boot Yeah, like I hear stuff like this all the time now is a two-minute boot time really

That big of a problem. I mean it's a lot more than those dedicated machines sitting next to people's desks right now So yeah, but is it worth? $800 motherboard plus all the other components? It depends. It might be. The cost of those solutions can be extremely high and it can be ongoing. At least that computer, I buy it once. Yeah. And, you know, talking about how overkill it is for the tasks that a lot of these people are doing, they can use it for browsing the internet and checking emails forever.

Yeah, they're going to work. They're going to work. They're going to work. Yeah. There's just, there's things we got to think about. And I don't know. It's not like it's going to be, I don't think it's going to be worth it at all to like replace all these $800 motherboards and attempt to flip them and then deal with the labor cost of uninstalling a reason.

Like there's no way that's going to work. It's also just inconvenient because there's going to be entire departments that will not use thin clients. No. The editing team is not switching to thin clients. It would have to be like two standards, really. A high spec and a like whatever other spec. Not even the spec. Just like if we had a bunch of people on thin clients.

Oh, yeah. Like a mixed architecture setup. Yeah, because there are people here here that can be annoying to manage when i absolutely need a dedicated station oh yeah for sure because you're literally like the the video editors and stuff are literally like on the edge of performance they have to be all the time all the time so yeah they're gonna be dedicated desk ops for sure my workplace has three levels of specs yeah but okay so okay but what i said was kind of wrong because he wasn't talking about levels of specs he was talking about architecture styles yeah having vdi versus having dedicated desktops at all is what he was talking about yeah not

because even within those you might have different spec levels so for example anyone in engineering also going to need a dedicated workstation Then again actually I think that's an industry that has moved towards virtual desktops a lot Because those professional cards make more sense on a centralized machine and the way the licensing for the software works Hmm, okay. I don't know yeah, That's it's all stuff to look into, but compared to some of the other things, it's not like the highest priority. Part of our problem is that what we do is so broad.

So weird. Yeah. Weird and broad. We're not uncommon and a lot of different uncomments. Yeah. We're not just like a product development company or like, we're not really going to be able to apply super generic things to a lot of the stuff that we do yeah but we do need to apply well thought out

sensible things that are actually enforced properly um what are you saying can you speak plainly i just well like you said before it's never really been anyone's full-time job yeah so it's just people have tried to keep the ship moving and the ship is just working Yeah, like like high five okay everyone who's been involved in helping out with the infrastructure over the years whether it's you know Jamie or Jake or Dan or? Anthony or me yes I don't know you you mostly actually didn't do that much Not a ton I tried and you were like no I even I remember having a conversation with you about something

Explaining that I could do it better, and you were like no it's more interesting for the video if it's like I was like okay, whatever Yeah, yeah, I mean it wasn't you didn't say it that way it was something along the lines of like you've got it to this point so the the audience is going to want to see like the the follow-through of the story something like it was more in depth than like it should be bad but like yeah content content rules a lot of what we do it really does and some of the drama of the infrastructure has been valuable. Moving forward, hopefully we can just make more like this is what we're doing with it stuff, which will also be interesting.

But we didn't have... It is a good evolution for the content. We didn't have the time or the dedicated people in order to do that style of content with it. So it was worth doing it the way that we did do it. Like everything makes sense. And it was fun. It just can be improved is is Definitely and like I I want to make a couple things clear nothing was fake like when we lost the data we lost the data

Yeah, but we but we have definitely taken a Just like yeehaw you know let's go you only live once approach to it just like yeehaw you know let's go you only live once approach to it um it's been a conscious decision and it's funny because i'll see a lot of criticism of our approach where people are like this is so stupid it's obviously they're only doing it because like they're you know they're just enthusiasts tinkering with this stuff and want to make a video about it. And I'm like, well, is it stupid or is it the thing you said? Stupid like a fox. That's what we do.

We just love this stuff and we're playing with it. And yeah, we don't know a lot today, but we're going to know more tomorrow. Actually, Jake and I are planning an update on how everything's running right now because there's been a ton of changes Like you see the server graveyard over there, right? Actually here Dan. Can you show them? Can you show them the server graveyard? There you go, oh, yeah, yeah, there's there's There's more can you pan up or tilt up rather up up up up up up up? There we go some more servers

The server graveyard exists because we've done a lot of consolidation over the last little while. Yeah. What we're planning to do then is a combination. It's going to be two vlogs, I think. It's going to be like an update on how everything works with the three locations that we have now. And data backup and resiliency across those locations what we're planning for a really cool project that's coming up soon so we are moving wanix server the primary editing nas slash like main production nas to a high availability um solution so it's going to be using four nodes in a single two-year rack yeah where you can lose

any one node like gone lose and the whole thing just stays ticking which is which is pretty cool so we're going to talk about that and then as a follow-up we're going to do a video where i switch jobs for a day the idea is that i work in logistics and we are going to take on the server graveyard we're going to take on some of the organization challenges we've had over at the new place i'm going to bring not just me but i'm going to recruit like jake and as many people we'll probably bring in dan uh dan by the way okay sure anyway um so we'll probably bring in Dan, and we'll have some fun. We're just going to go through and organize some stuff. We haven't done any of that classic vloggy style content in a long time,

so I think it's going to be fun. On the subject, going back to us talking about how we do so many different things, and it's all sort of broad and random, this is a question over on Twitch. Dat1Wolf asks, Sorry if this comes out as naive, but I do genuinely wonder, what does LMG do as a whole? The company. I know you're a tech company,

but what do you do? Besides making YouTube videos, reviewing products, selling your merch, but what else? Just like, for example, Samsung. They sell tech like smartphones, etc. But what is lmg's product thanks in advance our product is what you said well hold on yeah sort of i mean because we have we have a bit of a problem what what do we call ourselves we're a media company yeah sort of

we're well okay also completely not at all we're new if you look at it in a different sort of well okay we're it depends even youtube wasn't sure how to categorize us yeah like i have so go for it i i have a a representative from youtube who's a creator representative but it was apparently debated internally switching me over to more like a corporate representative. So the kind of representative that would work with, yeah. Cause we're a big company, like a media company. Yeah. Um, and I was sitting here going, no, I'm pretty sure that I'm still involved enough on the content and being the personality on camera side of things that I'm definitely still a YouTuber. I'm not like a five-minute crafts or like a vivo.

I agree with that. I understand why they had the debate. Whatever else. But I get it. Yeah. It makes sense. Because, yeah, even YouTube wasn't sure what the heck we were. sense uh because because yeah even youtube wasn't sure like what the heck we were because i mean because it's not because there's also a lot of youtubers they would just talk to the youtuber

whereas our poor our poor youtube rep who i i'm usually very nice to but sometimes i just i just get like really passionate about stuff sometimes and i love our youtube rep but i feel like she has a hard time processing my energy sometimes and so i think it i think it i think it's tough for i think it's tough for her sometimes yeah um and i feel especially bad for her because she's like nine contacts here depending on whether it's you know content related or merch related or editing related like whatever right so it's really tough and she's not really set up for that so so the problem that i was talking about which is not actually the same problem as what you're talking about but is heavily related is we don't actually have an actual name because we are not Linus Media Group. That is wrong.

No. Yeah. I mean, no, you're right. No. Yeah. Like, yes, you're right, but no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what to call it.

I don't know either. I forget. The umbrella company is called, like, BCLTD. It's a bunch of numbers and stuff. 225, something like that. I don't know. Yvonne named it before I told her, hey, company is called like BCLTD it's a bunch of numbers two to five something like I I don't know Yvonne named it before I told her hey we should probably give kind of distinctive sounding names to all the companies she's like what's not distinctive about and like rattles off nine digits I'm sitting here going woman I barely know my own phone number.

Oh, man. So I don't even know. So it's a mix. We're trying to do infrastructure. Okay, but that doesn't work either. And I'll get into that in a second. But we're trying to do infrastructure stuff here. And this isn't even something we're working on. But this is my best example for it.

So if you're doing building access, what is the domain for people to gain building access? I don't know. Oh, whatever it ends up being. Let's just say we name it after the parent company, LMG. But that's not right because... What if you only work at Creator creator warehouse and you enter a building that is only for creator warehouse why are you putting that one in that's weird yeah it's like i don't know it's weird

yeah i think we've just gotta go and people, oh, you're like a tech lifestyle company. I'm like, yeah. The like giant lab with a power supply tester that's taller than you are is tech lifestyle. Yeah, not really. No, not really. And then labs. We made the decision, I think mostly because Yvonne doesn't feel like admitting another company. We made the decision to not spin labs off into a separate company.

That one's under the the umbrella but not everything else that one's linus media group you start adding slashes so you were like oh it's just a combination of them okay so it's lmg cw lab and then what if we add badminton and then what if we add something else yeah so like eventually it's just going to be like a bunch of random letters with slashes between it like that's let me talk about the badminton center because so this is more of a personal side project for me though I mean what isn't I guess at this point in time the so the badminton center we were trying to figure out how to handle the accounting please don't just put your name at the front of whatever the hell it is. Is that your plan? No, no.

We'll talk about that later in the show, actually, because I was going to solicit your advice for how to name the badminton center. So we'll talk about that later, but we were trying to figure out because if we're going to have a center, we're going to need a pro shop. And if we're going to have a pro

shop, and we already know everything we know about online commerce why don't we just have a web shop and if we're gonna have a web shop well why don't we just ship to all the same regions we should review badminton equipment and then we should add stuff in the lab to check like tensile strength of strings and durability of different rackets no not that okay good but we were trying to figure out how to handle the if so if if creator warehouse just uses all of its knowledge and expertise to run the web shop just add another that I have no idea it's actually way more complicated than people probably think because you can't just like do stuff for free no and if it's a

different company like that's not your job. Yeah. So then you have to, like, you have to contract it. Oh, and when I say that you can't just do stuff for free, I mean legally. Yeah. You literally can't. You can't. Yeah. Creator Warehouse can't just do Linus Badminton Co.'s accounting for it. Yeah.

That's not how that works. Yeah. So they would have to bill them. But then, hold on a second, who holds the inventory? Who actually issues the PO? And if it's Creator Warehouse that holds the inventory, then are they just an unnecessary middle entity

between actual distributors and the pro shop, which is going to operate physically and is going to have to collect canadian currency you run could you run like a whereas creator warehouse only collects u.s currency right now in order to make it not a complete cluster so good so good you could maybe do i know back in the day geek squad used to operate out of Best Buy, but was a separate company. Right. So could it be like Creator Warehouse's pro shop

and they like pay the badminton company rent? I don't know. Is that good use of Creator Warehouse's time? So if Linus, the CEO of Creator Warehouse comes in and is like Hey, I have like a little personal project that is

Never gonna make any money Why don't you dedicate a bunch of time to that? Oh your KPIs that actually matter? Yeah, you're still gonna have to do those things anyway, but I also do them like it doesn't make sense Yeah, you can't do that. Yeah, so we're gonna have to figure out what that's gonna say Yeah, cool. Very cool. Let's talk about the name. Yeah Give any ideas Yes, okay sweet. I asked chat GPT

They're probably pretty generic did you feed it like some yeah? Well what I did was I I fed it a couple I asked it. What's a good name for a badminton racket club and then from there It gave me some ideas, and I said I kind of like this one this one this one and this one Can you give me some more suggestions like that good? And then I kind of went I don't like this one or this one negative prompts are very helpful these are kind of long can you give me stuff stuff that's shorter and did you pay some no I'm not sure if you're gonna I'm not sure so so we actually kind of kind of settled on something I kind of like it but me okay you know what I want to call it smash

club oh no I love that. Okay. I'm so down. Is that not taken already? It might be. We haven't done a trademark search or anything like that. But I kind of want to call it Smash Club. Please let me. Okay.

Please. You don't have to. Yeah. But please. In the, like, waiting room? Yeah. One of the couches. Rule number?

Oh. Yes. One of the couches. Yes. We need to have a TV. And just Smash Bros. No other game. Oh, so you went there with it. Yeah. See. No, I get it, I get it, I get it. No, no, no. I went,

I went, like, Fight Club. Oh, yeah. Like, rule number one is you do talk about Smash Club. Your word of mouth referrals mean a lot to us, you know, whatever else. But where I was actually going with it is I think it's a really funny double entendre. I just think it's a good name. To be

straight up, I just think it's a good name. So you still haven't gotten to, like, Smash Club. That's where I thought Luke was going with it. In the lobby with the couch. Oh, no, no, I- Black couch. Yeah, what kind of couch is this, Luke?

I'm with you guys. I got all three of those. Okay, alright. I'm just trying to figure out how we can get the domain. Because I'm so down. Did you get the domain? No. So... How can you say this publicly without getting the domain? Brother. Smash Brother? the domain brother smash brother can someone no i want we should do this can oh i don't know it might it might not be possible anyway it says rackets by day swingers club by night right so oh did I tell you my idea of putting black lights Over some of the courts and doing like disco badminton

Are you gonna like like black light paint the tips of the the shuttles? Oh? I don't think you'd have to they're white They might glow anyway. Yeah, that'd be sweet Oh, you could definitely use like the plastic like the nylon shuttles those yellow ones would almost certainly fluoresce whoa yeah yeah um so yeah i have a little bit more detail it is likely going to be uh 14 courts

so it's going to be pretty pretty awesome um we had uh we had an opportunity to partner with a local club that is going to run like training club that is going to run training programs, or that wants to run training programs. We haven't locked down the deal 100% yet, but it looks really promising right now. And so there will be a partnership with them to get this thing off the ground.

I'm actually very excited. It's kind of my retirement dream to run a badminton center, which isn't to say I'm retiring, but it'll be there. Beast on, boys! It'll be there smash club. I Like smash club. I actually really like that. Yeah, I really wish you didn't say it on the show I don't know you never know maybe we'll maybe we'll get a deal because the truth is that I actually have other Ideas that I lean towards more that I am. Oh, okay

Yeah That was more just like a joke one if we can get I just like Smash Club because even if you don't look at it from the joking angles, and this is, these are always the best names in my opinion. There's like a bunch of ways that it's funny, but also a smash is like actually a thing. Well, I also kind of wanted something that fit in with sort of the theme of all the local clubs. So there's Drive, there's Ace, there's Clear. And then there's Smash. And then, and then yeah, we yeah we'd be like smash yeah it's pretty sweet whatever i think it's even i don't think it's even a bad

name if you just look at purely seriously and then it's also funny what i don't like about it is that it's really not a great domain for a web store smashclub.com like to go like shop it doesn't even it's not self-explanatory oh you don don't want the dot-com the dot-com is really expensive. Oh, is it yeah? Oh, you know 40 grand Yeah, that's not happening I think someone saw it cheaper somewhere else, but it was like 28 grand like it's yeah, yeah Oh, yeah, there's other options for domains that like could work though Yeah, so I don't know Yeah, we're not doing that. I you know another idea. I had that I thought would be really funny And again, this one is not real. We're not actually gonna do this, but I was thinking like

Like like like like what about this? Like I was but what I was what I had in mind was like Like, like, like... Like, what about this? Yeah, you never know. Like, I was... But what I was... What I had in mind was, like... Why do... RacketShuttle.net or something. Oh. Because, like, it...

RacketShuttle and net. Like, it's part of the equipment. I don't know. I just want to have fun with it. I just want it to be fun. And the black lights would be so cool for LAN events. If we did up the whole place with UV lighting. It could be pretty sick.

At midnight or something. Yeah, just everything goes black light for the rest of the night. What's a neon-inspired LAN game? There's got to be something. I don't know. I mean, yeah, hard to say. Halo starts at midnight. Even though it's not really, I don't know, not really.

But like there's some Covenant stuff that's kind of like that. But like Halo starts at midnight and everyone knows because the like main lights go out, black lights come on, everyone jumps on Halo CE local servers. Like, that'd be sick. Oh, that's something we've got to figure out. We need to have a giant projector setup that's just sort of permanently set up by the stage or something.

Oh, I hadn't really thought of that because the walls are going to have to be blue or green so that you have enough contrast for the shuttles. During the actual use that the facility is actually for. You should paint them in blue and green screen paint. Yes and

no. Does it not work properly? Yeah, you want it to be a little more washed out than that. It shouldn't be quite that vibrant or it's a little hard on the eyes. That's fair. But we'll have to figure out something we'll have to figure out some way to do like a giant projector screen so we can just be like yeah here's you know here's the

directory that you definitely shouldn't go to How did that get there? Not get any you know copies of games or whatever that doesn't happen at LANs. That's not a thing. So you know put that up and then instructions or whatever else like't happen at LANs. That's not a thing. So, you know, put that up, and then instructions or whatever else. Like, Halo Custom Edition, for example,

has this annoying bug where if you don't install this, like, weird, obscure old Windows patch, the kill feed doesn't work. Yeah, yeah. And that sucks. That sucks. You want the kill feed in Halo. At a LAN, that is not cool.

Yeah, you want to dunk on each other. And then if we do any like little mini tournaments or whatever you want to be able to throw it up on the projector if you can hold on a second okay oh oh i'm just like i'm full of ideas today what if we had like a main stage where all we have is keyboard mice and keyboards mice and monitors and optical display port and usb connections so that anyone with their rig jack into your actual personal rig and then go play on the stage interesting or like or we could or or alternately we could jack into 16 or however many like five by five or eight versus eight we could jack into them and we could

display everyone you don't even need you could let people i think people hauling their keyboard and mouse wouldn't be a problem people hauling their monitors is going to get a little ridiculous but if you if you if you let them bring their own keyboard and mouse yeah so just take your keyboard mouse whatever it takes seconds and then we have this setup that's mostly there and then you can crank it out up on stage if all we needed was the spectating then you could just probably do something over ndi and capture that way um and we could have definitely ways we could pull off of their systems if you wanted the people up on stage yeah but but if you wanted the teams like facing each other like at a real esports event even if it's just randoms right i think it'd be way more fun

if you just had like a like a main stage you know match place and and people would go up there so you could be like you know like it's it's it's too much fun you got you want that energy right someone in chat said do a proper land instead like quake land. I've never done quake land personally What do you mean by proper land instead the whale land that we just did was? Exactly to a tee how I like wands to go Yeah, lands to go not wands and I Hope that they will stay similar to that a proper land is whatever you decided is is whatever It's whatever is fun. It's getting together with your homies and playing video games.

There's no such thing as a proper LAN. The things that we're against is non-participation, people sitting around on social media networks at a LAN. No, man. Let's play some vidya games. Let's play some games. It's not about what you play all the time when you're at home. It's about showing up and having fun playing whatever

Participation is currently going on yeah We had the let the the like real mark of success of Whale land to me was every time that we would do something like super random Just the whole place was up doing oh yeah, nobody we did share curling Yeah, and like nobody was still playing games. I was like let's curl some chairs Curling yeah, and like nobody was still playing games. I was like let's curl some chairs They're all like cheering to ridiculous degrees and stuff like that was great. That was exactly what I'm looking for yeah, yeah All right is it time to react

To Star Forge systems review of the LTT screwdriver. I've seen it. Oh Yep, I didn't know we were supposed to not watch it review of the LTT screwdriver. I've seen it. Oh. Yep. I didn't know we were supposed to not watch it. Okay, well, I guess, um, I guess I am watching it, and uh, okay. Sure. Have fun. Hey, look at this. They have a theater mode. Hey, Floatplane should

have something like that. I mean, if you just make the page bigger, it just does it automatically. We don't actually give you a choice. You're just in theater mode. Yeah, that's true. That is actually a thing that has improved recently. On the beta site. Okay, so is audio going to work, Dan?

I do? Oh, one moment, please. Yeah, I know where it is. I'll find it. Maybe get past the ads. You guys being able to hear this is a bit more complicated. Oh, really?

It might work. We'll see. Okay, good luck, everybody. We good? You're good to play it. On the surface, I understand. I cannot hear it. This is already freaking hilarious, though.

All you gotta do is sell three of these bad boys a day, and you've got $75,000. Okay, I will put on closed captions for now. I mean, I don't even need to hear what he's saying because it's obviously just... There we go. Okay, hold on a second. on their order Don't want it to last a long time Don't even demand a warranty All of which is why I'm extremely scared Hold on a second. Can I say I love this guy. Right

here. Not even trying to pretend that he's not having the time of his life right now Hold on Okay, okay now hold on all of which is why I am extremely skeptical everything about it screams doomed to fail between everything about it seems doomed to fail like the owner being a small tech youtuber with less than 20 million subscribers the executive team including okay we can't all be unbox therapy okay doomed to fail like the owner being a small tech youtuber with less than 20 million subscribers the executive team including okay we can't all be unbox therapy okay some guy who keeps tweeting at

us and the absolute cherry on top is that the launch went so poorly that the aforementioned small youtuber only launched with two color options of course i'm fully prepared to put my money where my mouth is and find out if I'm wrong. So, we begged Linus. Am I saying that right? Linus? Linus? Is it like Linux?

We begged Linus for a whole bunch of screwdrivers. A screwdriver that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. Is it a good deal? Is it well built? Can it run Doom? Just maybe they've got what it takes, though. While we unbox the screwdriver, let's talk more about the LTTStore.com's unboxing experience. Right out of the gate, I... It's only one com, okay?

Not LTTStore.com's. I just want to jump in and correct you there. I will say that... Actually, this is kind of nice. Sorry, what's that? LTTStore.com's unboxing experience? I don't know. I'm just...

He's not saying multiple. I'm finding reasons to nitpick. This is actually kind of hilarious. It's fun. They've taken pretty much a point-for-point... They've made a point-for-point remake of our review of their system. Yeah. The intro was hilarious.

Seeing, you know, what we could do if we downgraded our cameras, spent way less time, and just what we used to do like a while ago. We're straight memeing. It's inspirational. Elegant. Not quite as

good as a serialized wooden box with elegant not quite as good as a serialized wooden box with a not quite as good as a serialized wooden box with a handwritten note but better than putting a stamp on the handle and in fairness to them there's no sign of shipping damage however there's no evidence that this particular unit was tested to be functioning correctly and that its performance is what is expected for this unit. With that out of the way, I guess we can take a little bit closer of a look at the screwdriver.

No fans, so pretty bad airflow if the workflow is hot. And I don't know. I actually take issue with this. Our screwdriver has lots of fans. Oh, wow. You need go no further than r slash Linus Tech Tips. Okay?

Head over to our forum. Check out the comments. And you will find many fans of our screwdriver. I don't know how this 8-pin connector is meant to connect to the screwdriver's motherboard. I want to be clear. I'm not approaching this skeptically because it's a YouTuber doing it. I'm approaching it skeptically because I know how easy building a ratcheting screwdriver that bounces on one finger and has a comfortable ergonomic grip from the ground up appears

to be. And yet how many little things there are that are very difficult to get right? Okay. Can I ask something? Do I sound like that much of a douche or is he just taking the piss a little bit? Sometimes. Oh, all right.

I think in that situation, it was, in my opinion, fair because you had literally done that. Okay. Like you actually worked at NCIX. They did those things. You have had to deal with all those problems. So it was like legitimate

okay but you know sometimes well management i would give this a b minus what am i going to find out when i dig deeper let's take a look at that wasn't sound let's take a look at the added accessories. That was just as funny as I could have. What, no Molex? No, no. JT, don't cut the camera. I'm demoing one of the best features of the Star Force Systems Voyager Creator Elite. You can use your fingers on these big thumbscrews without the need of a screwdriver at all.

Hey! Hey, come on! Come on, you can't trick me into broadcasting that on my channel. Get owned! See that? Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I, for one, think that they should have used a penis rocket for their logo. This clearly should have been a cock and ball. It's a dick. Okay? Yeah, but they know that. It's the whole, the back and forth around it not being is like the whole reason, in my opinion, why it is. That's an amazing marketing tool.

Getting people to just constantly talk about your logo is like the greatest thing ever i am actually legitimately not 100 sure that all of them were aware oh definitely some of them were some of them have got to be yeah yeah yeah yeah i i'd be disappointed if they were ever thought of that and thought about the the like marketing and branding utility of saying that it wasn't but having it definitely be so and constantly having this debate going on is a genius oh enough faffing about what is this thing it's a screwdriver i do still have some questions about the thermal configuration of this machine, and I would really prefer to see some intake right about here.

I can't fault the acoustics. Still quite quiet, all things considered. Feels really nice to hold. And ratchets really smoothly. Okay, initials of a small tech youtuber merchandise company I think it's time for us to take a look at what else is in the market and see how you stand up Starting off our comparison with Counter-Strike 2. We saw the Horizon 2 PC run an average of 420 frames per second While the LTTstore.com screwdriver barely managed a measly 69 frames per second average

That might seem nice for a $70 product but bear in mind This is FPS testing for a counter-strike game running Diablo 4 we saw pretty consistent performance across the board Obvious outlier the LTT store comm screwdriver is simply not cut out to play this game moving How am I supposed to compete with half-life 3? Performance wait, how can you defend this line is negative performance in half-Life. How can I compete with the power of imagination? Play this game. Moving on to the upcoming title Half-Life 3. Once again the LTT store.com screwdriver disappointed. Clearly flawed benchmarks because touching grass should be way out here. So many frames per second.

way out here. So many frames per second. While the Horizon 2 PC played at 118 FPS average, the screwdriver somehow generated negative three frames per second. We're not entirely sure how it scored so poorly, but this is likely a driver based issue that Linus and his team should look

into. And lastly, Pretty good. Oh, I see what you did there. In an unreleased game we're not allowed to refer to by name, we finally saw the LTTStore.com screwdriver perform up to par with a gaming PC. Unfortunately, due to the secretive nature of game development, we're not allowed to comment on any specifics for the game's performance. All in all, if you're looking to game on a screwdriver, this isn't the one for you.

I get it. Not everybody wants to build and design their own screwdriver. So while Lowe's will send you a non-ratcheting screwdriver for roughly the same price, neither of them will come with a light-up-dick hammer logo RGB panel. I consider that a big downside. LTTStore.com also offers a lifetime limited warranty, where if something breaks, they will have you send it in for repair or replacement, which is pretty impressive if they can actually pull that off in the real world.

I still don't know if I can. Again, this is pulled almost word for word from the original review of their system. Wholeheartedly recommend them. Ah, who am I kidding? I trust you, bro. I'd say if they're so. Gotta get the shots in. Got him.

Oh. That's good. Okay. All right. Around in six months and you like the YouTuber and LTT, then this screwdriver seems like it might be as good an option as any other on the market. Of course, the best option is always to segue to our sponsor. All right.

All right. All right. The best reference of them all. All right, guys. Well played right guys well played good well played oh I didn't even oh, I didn't even catch this they accidentally dropped the screwdriver Yeah, I 35 seconds All right Well, I'm just I'm glad drivers out there. I'm glad people are enjoying it in more and on a more serious note

Samet who is a youtuber that I hadn't really heard of until I saw this thumbnail Which is no no we're not going to wait too long. Yeah, it's 20 minutes long, but I'm gonna watch one 40 second segment. Oh segment oh okay we can do that linus screwed me was what i saw pop up in my in my recommended and i'm sitting here going excuse me i thought it was gonna be really bad uh i thought so too i've actually i haven't finished watching it yet because people keep walking into my office and interrupting me this is why it's really hard for me to watch videos even when i want to i've watched about half of it that's my fault that was no you weren't the only one i've sat down and tried to watch this like four times and i've made it 10 minutes in did you watch the

first half yeah okay cool i strategically watched the second half oh shut up i did i saw your message saying like i watched half of it i was like he must have started it so i'll just jump part way through also your link actually had a time stamp in it So I'm pretty sure you shared from where you were at nice So I literally watched from the second that you ended watching so collectively what a team collectively we have watched one video No all right, so anyway, I guess there's a segment that we're supposed to watch please watch and react 122 to 203 so I actually haven't seen this oh From all the bits, so I'm gonna load load this up. That was kind of satisfying.

Wait, can you flick it? Oh my God. If you have ADD or ADHD, this is bad. Do not buy this for your partner because I'm going to be sitting here all day when I'm just thinking, just doing this.

How fast can I do it? Alright, anyways. Let's load this up and let's get something to compare it to. Wait, so it was a false alarm? Oh my god. Oh, okay. Cool, cool. I can put my pants down. Oh my god.

That's pretty good. Strawberries, they're everywhere, man. He realizes later on in the video that you can just, if you hold on to the shaft, you can just spin it and the whole ratchet will twirl around. And he's like, oh, and he does that for a while, too. I can tell when, like, one of my people gets their hands on the driver. There was a lot of the driver because I do it all the time. All the time.

I get annoyed if my partner ever tries to sort it away somewhere to put it somewhere that it should go. I always go and get it back and put it back on my desk because I'll sit there specifically with my hand in like this position right above where my mouse is and if I'm thinking I'll just grab it into spin spin spin

We are working on a fidget toy built with the same ratchet, but it's gonna take some time You know everything takes time especially molding takes time Overall what I saw so why don't we compare notes? Was that he it took him a while to kind of figure out all the ins and outs It looks like he wanted to just go on his own voyage of discovery it was pretty fun watching him discover that the bit loader spins so that you can kind of treat it as a little carousel to see your bits move it around i know that he had some constructive feedback on the uh the texture of the plastic he's not the first to bring it up in fact jake was the first to bring it up internally uh before launch but the reality of it was at that point changing the texture of the

plastic could have been done but it was a one-way ticket trouble yeah so once you because it's some kind of like electrical obliteration of part of the mold to change the plastic oh it's called edm if i recall correctly um and once you do it it's done those molds were a huge bet and we had something that had really good part lines really hand feel, didn't get too scuffed up, or did, and then kind of resolved itself. It was kind of like a, almost like a self-healing texture. And I was sitting here going, okay, this checks every other box and we could try to go after this extra box.

Did he try using it with gloves?'m not sure because i know no not in the part i watched so i am also slippery hands boy right and the first time i ever used it i was like oh yeah this is gonna be a problem if i ever have to do something that takes a lot of torque right um i've never once had a problem using it on my own so far and i've like taken things apart not just computers taking things apart and all this other kind of stuff but if i was like cranking something in on say a car like he would have it could have been a problem but just to test it i grabbed one of my pairs of gloves that has like a leather palm right no problems whatsoever right okay so if you're if you're someone who works with gloves then it's not a non-issue yeah he spoke very highly of pretty

much everything else that i saw really liked the hand feel really liked just the ergonomics of it um it seemed like it exceeded his expectations which made me really happy because you know obviously we set out to build a great screwdriver with building computers particularly in mind but we wanted to be great for other things so to see car folks Come and say like yeah, it's really good for this too is pretty exciting So how was the second half a lot of what he did in the part that I watched was he just like went around his Shop and just tried it on like everything he unscrewed and screwed I like this style like One of his tool benches get it to a bunch of random screws around one of the engine bays of the car

that he was working on. He even went up to his bidet because he's in Japan. They call them... I think they just call them toilets there. Something else. I don't remember what it is, but he explained that they use a different name for it.

But anyways, he went up to his bidet and he's like, yeah, when we're servicing these, we have to cut off the water and that works through this like flat head thing so i'm gonna try to use this for that he did it and it worked perfectly fine one thing that i noticed in his operation of it is that he he liked the knurling on the shaft he also pointed that out he really liked the knurling on the shaft but i found that and this is something that i have to like almost retrain myself to the back force is so light that a lot of tasks I'm like trained in my head.

Like, oh, this is a light one. I'm going to spin the shaft, right? You don't have to. Yeah. But I think he uses this stuff all the time, clearly. So he has muscle memory of like, oh, it's a light one. I need to go up and do it that way. Right.

When he probably could have just turned it normally. And because of the back force, it would have have been fine he did notice the back force earlier but you're probably right it's probably just muscle i watched him do a bunch of tasks that i know could have been done that way yeah but he did it by spinning the which is like it doesn't matter he also might just be efficiency minded i still use the knurling a lot even when i don't have there's a reason why the knurling's on there yeah i just yeah like that that stood out to me a little bit But yeah, I used it for a ton of things so that he liked it and

He invited you to go to Japan and go drifting with him. Oh, I didn't see that part Yeah, I mean that sounds really fun. Yeah, I was gonna say he didn't invite me, but if you're not going I'll go invite me but if you're not going i'll go i'll just show up it looks so sick i clicked on one of his other videos just to like see what they do going drifting in japan is like that's where you want to go to do it yeah like tokyo yeah you know that's where you tokyo drift well in the in the mountains because of initial d but yeah i i don don't know. That's uh, that's super cool That sounds super fun. Anyway, yeah appreciate the review. Thank you so much Oh Yeah, okay, yeah Tim's commenting on the back for us as well in the floatplane chat I didn't know that he was a mechanic

Kind of makes sense though Yeah Hey, we haven't talked about merch messages at all Guys, the, I mean You found them, so that's cool But if you're new to the show And you don't know what merch messages are We don't really do super chats or twitch bits

Or anything like that The way to interact with the show Is through merch messages Other than just random comments that we do read from time to time and you send those by going to lttstore.com and picking up whatever kind of floats your boat whether it's uncle linus's hoodie or water bottle or any of the new products that we've launched this week we'll go through those in a little bit or just a gift card if you just want to send a message, but nothing's really catching your eye this week.

Dan, do you want to pick out a few merch messages for us to go through? And then maybe we'll... Oh, my goodness, we've got to get sponsors done. Man, we've got... How's this happening? We still have a lot of topics to talk about. Happens every time.

Every week. No, I want to talk about... I want to talk about the survey that shows that VR adoption is slow among teens. I think we've... No, for real. I actually have a lot to say about that. No, yeah, yeah. I think we've got to do sponsors first, though.

I think hitting those now is a good idea. Okay, sure. Let's do sponsors, then. Or wait, three merch messages, then sponsors? Sure, let's do that. I think that's the normal flow. All right, let's do it. Okay.

Dan, Linus, and Luke, love the show. What's your take on AMD Alveo MA35D and its implementation of AV1 and the use of AI in its ability to help with decision of bit rate of content? Is that in here? I thought that was supposed to be a whole topic. Is that in here? Is that even a... It's not a whole topic. I didn't even see this this week. I don't have any thoughts on this at all, but that sounds super

cool. I swear it was in the chat. Oh, it's gonna be huge. It's gonna be huge. I'm pretty sure E-Post Vox already has a video on it. I'm like 99.9% sure of that. Whoa, this is so cool. This is basically like that specialized hardware that we wanted to get our hands on from Google.

So we found... It is. Oh. Okay. So I found... It is. Oh. Okay. So I heard years ago that Google had built their own hardware to handle video encoding for YouTube because doing it on CPU or GPU just didn't make sense at the kind of scale that they were encoding video. And we reached out to them saying like,

hey, we'd love to cover this, but we can't just cover that it exists. Hush, hush, hush. Like, you got to show it to us. You got to talk about the technology. And they're like, no. Well, this is basically it. One watt per stream for AV1 video encode?

Crazy. Okay. Earlier line of Xilinx cards. Okay. So this is the Xilinx acquisition yeah whoa that is super cool is this something that i could just buy and put in an editing workstation and we could just encode like that or what like what am i looking at here is this more for like on the data center side i'm'm just, just seeing this now.

I was hoping there was going to be info in the doc. For video and code blocks. And it uses machine learning to determine the optimal bit rate. This is super cool. I would love to do some kind of coverage of this in the future.

I'm not sure if this is going to be the kind of thing that would end up in a workstation ever or anywhere near a consumer. So it's listed under data center on their website. Just so you know. One watt per 1080p 60 channel. Being able to get it though though, like, I mean,

there's some data center things that you can get, you know. $1,600 MSRP. So what would a system for this look like? Like, is this, would this be, how would Floatplane use something like this for example this would be a little hard for us to get into our infrastructure right now um but would this help to solve like ingest bottlenecks okay okay here's an example right now the wanshow archive on float plane takes a long time because it's just this colossal video and it's got to be encoded whereas google does magic encoding on the fly so that archives

of four hour long streams can be available immediately and it's a bit of a pain point for folks on float plane but something that has been brought up internally is the idea of having and i don't i didn't want to do this until we got a local full-time IT person. Yeah. But now that we have one, or are going to have one, I think it is a project that they might want to work on.

But we've wanted to have a node here. Yeah, we should. If we could deal with all of the transcoding that has to happen from it, because you guys upload a lot of stuff, which is great, right? Thanks for using the platform i'm not complaining but a lot of it happens here a lot of the content on the platform is generated here right so if we can just transcode it here and then just upload it already transcoded sweet right so we could maybe use these for that

now we have offered to give floatplane local hardware before but i will confess i will confess that every time we've done it we have without warning unceremoniously requisitioned it for something else sometimes when they were in the middle of using it literally so it's been a bit of a problem you can't so that's the thing if this happens it's been a bit of a problem. You can't so that's the thing if this happens It's not going into a building that like or a room or whatever that anyone just has willy-nilly access to you No, no, I could go in the server. Nah. I don't trust it. No, it'll be fine Okay, it'll be fine one Linus is great to work with best boss I've ever had anytime he ever says this thing is yours in perpetuity

Do not trust that. Well what if we need it for a video? Exactly! It's not like the reason is gonna be illegitimate. But there's going to be a reason, and it is going to be taken away. Okay, the one they were- It's very likely that it will be replaced with something just as cool or cooler. I'm not saying this is just the worst thing ever, but if it's like a piece of infrastructure and it has to stay there don't trust it that is a dangerous scenario okay that one that we ripped away while it was in use was six workstations one CPU and it was not in

the server room so there's no precedent for something being taken from you guys when it's actually installed in the rack it's fine if it's in the rack it's not in the server room. So there's no precedent for something being taken from you guys when it's actually installed in the rack. It's fine if it's in the rack. Nothing's going to happen. Just put a sticker on the front. Property of Floatplane Inc. Do not touch. Very extensive history of Linus being extremely problematic around infrastructure type things.

That goes back to before the company started. Mr. Flash Drive. Yeah, there was this one time I tossed a USB drive to Luke across the room. And thanks to his utter failure to catch it because he never played baseball. I played other sports that involved catching. It was a bad throw. Anyway, the point is it hit. It was like actually a miracle.

The reset pins on the motherboard or something. What did it hit? Well, okay. Some of this is assumptions right yeah but the result was that the ssd was unplugged the data cable to the ssd was unplugged so i think it must have hit the like metal clip and actually like yeah given enough force that it popped out it was i all i remember is that it was a one in a million shot it was crazy and it unplugged the forum while something critical was happening or something. I don't fully remember that. And it corrupted it, basically.

Something bad. Yeah, the result was bad. Yeah, it was very bad. ADF, A-K-L-S-D-J-I-F on Floatplane Chat says, Line is trying to find a problem for the solution. That's my whole career. Yeah, that's like and and again they're not being critical or anything i'm just saying like yeah that's yeah

yep i'm not saying the reasons aren't legit i'm not saying it doesn't make the most sense to do that thing but it's very often not wise to rely on infrastructure type things like mission critical type things to be running in Linus's general vicinity. Jaden's still mad. It was sitting in the middle of the float plane section of the office. It was literally in our like office quarters. Yes.

It was not in like a shared area. Anyways, there is theory to us doing stuff that does include this thing. Okay. That'd be cool. I just, I mean, we'd have to figure out stuff that does include this thing. Okay, that'd be cool. I just, I mean, we'd have to figure out like, can we even buy these? Like, what is the implementation of these like? I don't know anything about that. But even if we can't use these, there's still theory to like having a node here. We've wanted to do that for a very long time.

And the more time goes on, the more like volume of content you guys are making so it just tends to make like more and more sense because we we have a there's a bit of a scale problem in the sense of people's perceived levels of normalcy when it comes to how long things take because they'll be like oh yeah like google transcodes this video real fast it's like yeah they sure do i don't know if we're ever going to get like that fast we have some solutions coming like right now we wait for all transcoding levels to be ready before we release a video um so something that's going to be changed at some point is we're going to allow videos to launch uh without 4k already ready similar to how youtube does so you can watch

it at 1080p which our 1080p is really good um and if you want to watch in 4k like you might have to wait a little bit and it'll say when you go to like settings because you're like hey why isn't this in 4k and you want to set it to 4k it'll say like it's currently transcoding or whatever well well i don't know if it'll say that but it'll have some indication that it's like still working on it Yeah Yeah, hit us Dan Alright next up This one's from Jonathan

Do you still use all that janky stuff you have made over the years like the water-cooled network switch or the red camera? Thanks for the awesome vids the water-cooled network switch or the red camera? Thanks for the awesome vids. The water-cooled camera we converted back to air-cooled because it was very stupid. The water-cooled network switch, on the other hand, in spite of also being very stupid, is still very much in deployment right now. It runs in the camera den,

and I believe is the network switch that the ingest stations go through like it's it's Part of our infrastructure 100% my water-cooled chair is still in action sort of it Had a bit of an accident Luke observed very acutely that the pump and res Was on the floor when he came into my office either yesterday or today I Rez was on the floor when he came into my office either yesterday or today. I made a mistake. We accidentally put the reservoir and the pump and the heat sink for the Peltier, we put them somewhere where if you lean the chair back,

it would interfere with the base of the chair. And I forgot about that. And I was like, oh, I want to leave my chair back. And I unlocked it because I've always had it locked to make sure I don't do that. And I went crunch. Yeah. So need to either reprint or ideally redesign the mount for that. It shouldn't be there.

You should be able to lean your chair back. The options were shoot the video or not shoot the video today and how to get it going we decided to shoot the video yeah but but it has been in use since then it's amazing I brought it to whale land did you try it yeah it was nice it was genuinely nice. Pretty cool. I would, if this was like a commercial solution, it would be something that I would look into. I mean, you basically have that for your bed. Yeah.

Like, if you could just have that. Why wouldn't I do it elsewhere? For a chair. Yeah. But why not? Yeah. 100%. Yep. Next one.

Another one? Yeah. All right, here we go. Let's archive that. This is from john linus any fun anecdotes about the making of the uncle linus video oh yeah it was totally fun uh people couldn't stop playing with the baby goats and all the animals on the farms um the alpacas were hilarious uh lots of fun i'd oh oh that didn't make it into the behind the scenes. But I have this great video of Riley in the alpaca pen.

Being Riley in an alpaca pen is awesome. Yeah, I love it. I mean, honestly, most of what was really fun ended up in the behind-the-scenes video on Floatplane. That's one of the cooler Floatplane exclusives that we've done in a while. So those of you who are on Floatplane can go check that out. I'd say the coolest thing, being behind the scenes on a shoot that I didn't organize, I pretty much showed up as talent. Sort of.

I mean, I helped with direction a little bit I obviously um came up with the concept initially and then I sat and I helped edit the script so I was involved but I hadn't been like the live shoot I hadn't been to any of the locations I hadn't seen any of the props like when I saw my overalls and i was like yeah um and just some of the okay here's a fun one i didn't see a single comment have you watched the video uh yeah the i have watched some of the behind the scenes i have watched the whole main video okay do you want to know my gripe oh okay who do you who do you ask to be in the video? I didn't ask anyone me. Oh, did I yes? I mean, I wasn't in it, bro. I look I Don't really care. It was very

That was a that was a tough. I was gonna say I also had an extremely busy time around that area I probably wouldn't been able to do it anyways. I just wanted to but yeah, I'm sorry I I would have loved to have you there, but I just left it to Riley to figure out, and to Jacob to figure out who was going to be there. It was hilarious. The amount of... I really enjoyed that they put a lot of effort to make

sure that something was happening in the background just all the time. I thought that was great. You have to watch it twice. Yeah, that was really good. There was one that I insisted that we make a little bit more obvious and yet This is what I was gonna say a second ago. I didn't see a single comment acknowledging the name tag in the meat bag Did you notice yeah, do you get the reference? Are you bringing it up?

I'm not 100% sure that I remember there being a name tag. I remember identifying like it has been communicated that this is human. No. So the name tag in the meat bag is Pearl. Okay. That's, uh... Logan Paul's abandoned pig. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was going to say it's a pig, but I was trying to remember why I knew that. So the idea was just that, like... You stole his... There's all kinds of things in the meat. So I... Ugh! I insisted that we get a close-up.

Okay, so I definitely didn't get that right away. I didn't see anyone catch it, and I was like, oh, I thought that was really funny. That's pretty good. Sort of. That's pretty good. It's a little bit old of a reference as far as internet goes. It is. Yeah.

It is. But it's funny. It is funny. But I still I I still I Was into it um I want to say that the coolest thing being behind the scenes though Just to appreciate as we as we made our way from one location to the next was how amazing the locations were that drug den We didn't change much. We brought in the little green bottles, but like there were like weird skulls and like weird retro

containers and there was There was a couch That a lot of weed's been smoked on, I'll tell you that much. You know, like it was... How did they scout that place? We got really lucky. Okay.

We didn't start location scouting in earnest until probably about 10 days before the shoot. We got extraordinary, extraordinarily lucky. Shout out Rondrizo, i want to say farms and then whatever uh whatever the other farm was that we that we shot at uh oh man now i now i feel really bad uh whatever the the farms were amazing ron ron ron drizzo here we go here we go here we go shout out Rondrizo Rondrizo yeah Rondrizo Farms and Hazelmere

slash Gabriel Farms absolutely amazing both of them super cool to work with awesome and then I think sponsors no there's one more really Dan was that three or was that yeah let's do sponsors then okey-dokey all right what now

Oh, no I've been signed out of the dock because of course I am because why when I'm using my computer wouldn't I just send it or wait No, you're gonna have to aren't you apparently I don't know I love this. Thank you Google. This is incredibly helpful. You know, don't bother expiring a session token, you know, when the country or IP changes. But while I am sitting actively f***ing using my computer, why don't you go ahead and sign me out when I am doing nothing sensitive other than just reading a f***ing Google Doc? I love it. reading a f***ing Google Doc. I love it.

And the best thing is because I always log in to do WAN show. Apparently it's based on the day of the week. I don't know. I always have to log in during the WAN show. That's pretty funny. Oh, yeah. Did you type in your password or did you, how else did you do it?

I don't know if I know this password. Oh. I changed it a little while ago and I can't, I'm not sure if I remember exactly what it is. I have it. I'm good. Okay. Okay. All right, Dan, let's do this.

Please check under the desk before you read the sponsor. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Are you kidding me? No, no, no, we already did it. Oh, all right. He went so off script, it's not even funny. This is just sponsor reads. I thought it was pretty funny.

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Um, oh man. I think the LTX site is pretty good. No, um, No? I'm kidding, I'm kidding. We actually created, oh man, what was it called? For the Uncle Linus video. We created an entire website.

The review website, right? No, not the review website. The, uh... Or was it? I can't... The juice website. Juice website. Yeah, does anyone...

A pack of juice. Yeah, does anyone imported juice something? Oh, that was a... You actually made that? That was a real website? Yeah, Jacob Rushton did it. What's the URL? Does anyone remember? Come on, Jack. You got this. juice something oh that was a you actually made that was a real website yeah jake jake uh jacob rushton did it uh what's the url does anyone remember come on chat you got this and we didn't even call call it imported alpaca juice or something i don't remember what it was i know

it's something no because so the joke was that if they actually went to exoticmeatmarkets.com that's a real site and so that was just screen cap from a real site. Importedjuiceexchange.com. Importedjuiceexchange.com on the other hand. I love that it's an exchange. Which we also, which we also site, is not real at all. Tired of, so this was created in like

a matter of an hour or two. Wait, did I go to the did you guys just show this? Yeah, so we showed it in the video featured products pineapple juice guava juice alpaca secretions So people just I guess this is another one that I saw almost nobody talking about but But it was just yet another layer to the April Fool's. Consume Eldritch Screams.

Oh, that's great. Yeah. And nobody called us on it. I didn't see a single comment about like, oh yeah, I actually went to importedjuiceexchange.com. I can't believe they set up this website So much fun. All right. I need to run to the washroom. It's my mid-show pee break. Sounds good. See you later See ya time to talk about AI What's new mr. Luke got! What do you have for us? I haven't...

It's honestly been very hard to keep up with everything, because it's literally been moving that fast. At this point in time, GPT-4 itself is like almost old news, which is kind of crazy. I don't like that. A lot, yeah. I'm not okay with much of this. I think there's very legitimate reasons to not like that.

I don't want to talk to you about it on stream, but... Yeah, every week you give me a panic attack. I have to go stand outside. Let's go. I think we had a question in here about that. The craziest thing, in my opinion, I think this happened this week. I mean, there's been updates to the repo as of five hours ago, so it's very live just like

everything in this space is but Microsoft announced something called Jarvis and this is just one of the actually many options of this type of thing that I've seen announced or talked about recently and this is where things are getting really crazy I talked I think a couple weeks ago I think this is where things are getting really crazy. I talked, I think a couple of weeks ago. I think this is going to be an absolutely massive jump when these things hit more wide adoption because plugins with chat GPT. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to rewind slightly and make sure everybody's with me before I keep going. So chat GPT, extremely powerful, limited in ability, right? It can write creative things really, really well.

It can't do things for you so much. In the coding space, it can do things for you to a certain degree. There's some limitations there. It will literally spit out code that has errors, stuff like that. But you can work with it to fix those errors, or you can just use it as a very good starting off point for small projects, stuff like that. It has ability to do things in the coding space, but it can't really do things in other spaces. And it has issues with math and all this other type of stuff.

Well, a lot of those problems were fixed very quickly, but in a private sense, because not that many people, including myself, I'm very sad about this. Not that many people have access to plugins. Plugins was announced, I think, a couple weeks ago. And the first plugin that immediately I was like, oh my god, if they make this, this is going to be absolutely insane. And it was literally like the first one they did was Wolfram Alpha. Wolfram Alpha is super cool, has been super cool for a long time it is very not new um i think people that aren't in the space haven't necessarily heard of it but wolfram alpha is an answer engine developed by wolfram research it answers factual queries based by computing uh sorry it answers factual queries by computing answers from externally sourced data. Wolfram Alpha was released on May 18th, 2009.

Yeah, and the type of things that it does is like quite advanced math and calculus. So you take ChatGPT, which can't really do these things, and you give it a plugin where ChatG chat gpt can ask wolfram alpha for the answer and suddenly wow it's extremely powerful right now the next stage of this is not just plug-ins but jarvis and i think they call it hugging face which is like that's a concerning name uh but jarvis and hugging face and all this other type of stuff allows you to link all these systems together. So you could ask chat GPT, you'd be like, Hey, I need to do this thing. And chat GPT or any other LLM can reach out, find the different

services that it thinks it could use to accomplish that task, assign various tasks to the different services, get those services to actually execute those tasks, get responses from those services, potentially iterate multiple times if it needs to, and then spit out the result to you. So it can do more things now. It can actually get things done. That's a big, big step.

There's also a bunch of other things that happened. Someone's suing, I think it's OpenAI, for defamation because... Yeah, it made up something about them. It called them a criminal or something. They're actually a whistleblower. Yeah. Pretty cool. That's going to be a huge issue.

I mean, it's wrong all the time. Oh, yeah. So if you start asking it about people, it's going to also be wrong about people. Yep. And that's going to be a huge issue. I mean, it's wrong all the time. So if you start asking it about people, it's going to also be wrong people. Yep. And that's going to cause some problems. Um, yeah,

there's, there's, there's lots of stuff going on. In my opinion, if you just kind of like dabbling in this stuff and only looking into it a little bit, I would look into like Microsoft's Jarvis, um,

hugging face, stuff like that. In my opinion, that's where the most interesting stuff is happening this second. And I think that's where I'll kind of leave it. Isn't Hugging Face more like an online repo of all these AI toons? Yeah, but you use Jarvis to get an LLM to tap into Hugging Face to find the correct one. Oh, good God, no.

Yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. Maybe I didn't describe that super well. All right, continue, Linus, please. Survey says, VR adoption slow among teens. Who would have thought it?

Our original source here is Digital Information World. Only 4% of American teens say they use VR good heavens I thought it was worse only 4% of the team okay around 29% said they own a VR headset in spite of this only 4% of the teenagers that own these headsets use them daily so that's that's not 4% of overall people that's 4% of the teenagers that own these headsets use them daily. So that's not 4% of overall people. That's 4% of people that own the headsets. With 14% saying they use them on a weekly basis. What this means is less than 1% of American teenagers who responded to this survey use VR headsets every day.

Can I just jump in and say that's a lot better than I thought it would be? Honestly, it's higher than I expected. That's 29%! Where are you polling these teenagers that 29% of them own a VR headset? This is like literally just Silicon Valley. Apparently a sample size of 5,600 American teens. Yeah, but the size doesn't matter as much if it's all from like... Here first.

I agree. No, I don't consider this to be a controversial take, sir. I think that size is not the most important thing. It's how you use the number of people in the survey, where you got them from, how you use the number of people in the survey how where you got them from how you yeah you know uh yeah yeah so like if if they pulled all of these 5600 people from like extremely affluent neighborhoods yeah that's gonna skew the results uh i could see that skewing the results two ways i could see that skewing the ownership percentage, obviously, but I could also see that

skewing the daily and weekly use. Because if you have a whole bunch of other toys to play with, maybe you don't play with your VR headset that much. And if all you have is a VR headset, maybe you use it more. You probably use it a lot. You probably use it to watch movies. You probably use it to play games. When I could afford less games, I played fewer total of games more total of time. Yep. I mean, there's no way that today I would log the kind of hours in Pilotwings that I did when

I was nine. Yeah. There's just no way. When you're going like, ah, I want to play a video game and you have two. Yeah. Like, I owned four cartridges. Super Mario World, Super Mario All-St all-stars pilot wings and Final Fantasy 6 that's a good setup. I mean yeah, it's not like they were bad games Yeah, what's really funny is I used to I used to like rent games

Yeah, and never enjoy them because I guess I already owned all the best game King-tier games on the platform completely by accident. I just thought the box art for Final Fantasy was super cool I'm like That's uh yeah like it's pure pure chance. Yeah, sampling bias on what said yeah there you go Yeah, it's a like it's a decent number, but I don't know I don't I don't I do if you could somehow It's not reasonable, but if you could somehow pull all teenagers in America I seriously doubt that number stays around 29% Oh not even close. No shot not even close

The rest of our notes say teenagers are typically seen as a bellwether of the direction of future technology. I mean yes and no Have we talked a bit about how like Gen Z is apparently hitting the workplace and yeah I think we did talk about that recently just like has has no idea how to set up a printer and stuff. It's like, oh, yeah, OK. There's definitely things we need that teenagers don't think is cool. And stuff that's like not going away. That might be more true for like technology trends in terms of consumer technology, not necessarily works.

That's fair. The study's creators state that the lukewarm usage demonstrates that VR remains early days and that these devices are less important than smartphones. I mean, did we need a survey of 5,600 people to tell us that these devices are less important than smartphones? Maybe not, but I mean, hey, it doesn't hurt to back up your feeling with data. So that's good. Yep. For context, 84% of American teens have their own phone.

That number I do actually believe. And 81% have a game console. That's pretty surprising. Really? So I was pretty unusual then. I didn't have a game console until I... Oh, this is really interesting. I did not own a game console in my teens.

I had a Super Nintendo when I was pre-teen. I moved to my parents... Or to my mom's. I did not own a game console until I bought a Wii. I had already graduated high school. I was 20. My brother and I... Wow, I never thought about that!

My brother and I have fond memories of working together to collaboratively... This was like... I don't know if this was... This must have been orchestrated by my parents somehow to get us to learn teamwork and co-funding things and stuff. Because my brother and I busted butt actually really hard to be able to afford. I think it was more than one console We both have extremely vivid memories of like once we had finally pooled our money together enough to be able to buy Donkey Kong 64 that like is in the yellow cartridge, but also came with the n64 booster pack thing Which was just like more RAM or something. I don't know what it was

64 booster pack thing which was just like more ram or something i don't remember what it was um like that that took us a while to save for it was actually like quite some time but we got it and it was awesome i literally remember the walmart that we went to to buy it i remember what door we were entering from i remember what side of that door we entered from this is like an important memory in my brain and we recently discovered that he also remembers exactly those details. This was like We had some console and we earned those damn consoles That's awesome. It was cool. I don't know I'm down with it Except for the the original Xbox with Halo that was a Christmas present Yeah, I remember you telling me the story like hard trolled us on

it was like all set up under this thing that was like unrelated and it was like he convinced us that it was a gift for mom and that we were supposed to stop everyone else from getting it to be one of the presents that was opened early we have very long christmases it came from a long time i'm not gonna explain why but like we spend a lot of time with each present that gets opened. You open your present, you examine it for a little bit, you pass around, people check it out,

you play with it for a second, whatever. And then we go into the next one. So it was like hours of my brother and I fighting everyone else in the family off from getting us to open this thing because we thought it was a crystal ball. Why that would be a thing for my mom. So neither of us questioned like, why the heck did you buy mom a crystal ball?

But we were both like okay. There's no way anyone's gonna like open this my dad told no one else So everyone's confused because they know what it is So they're like trying to get us to open this present for ourselves and he's just sitting there laughing his butt off at this dynamic that he's created. So funny. That was a kingly present. That's awesome. Played a lot of Halo. What's not a kingly present is General Motors

deciding to, instead of just keep doing what's working really, really well, which is Apple carplay and android auto they are going to remove access to both of them in 2024 or in their 2024 vehicle lineup in favor i i honestly i thought this had to be april fools like you guys can't possibly be stupid enough for this um so rather than using phone projection systems that just now wirelessly just use your phone they are instead going to provide seamless access to a new native Google powered infotainment system terrible I've been

highly critical of Tesla's use of their own proprietary system with no ability to run android auto um from my understanding there is no reason that they couldn't as a app or icon or window or whatever you want to call it within their system they just want google to like pay them for it well what they really want is they want to collect all the telemetry data themselves so rather than it living on your phone they want it to live on the infotainment system and there's probably

some terms of service advantage to doing it this way would be my best guess there could be some performance advantage as well in terms of interface or whatever else and intercompatibility between especially older phones running older potentially

unsecured versions of Android could be a problem. There are some problems that this will solve but there are new problems that this will create like when they decide to stop updating it, you are f***ed.

Buy a new car. That's stupid. Yeah. That's really dumb. Yeah. My car had this happen. They stopped updating maps. Yeah.

And so now you just have an old map or no map. Yeah. Great. Perfect. Whereas my Volt, I never had to worry about any software, anything, because every time I got a new phone or a new operating system upgrade or whatever else, I got new Android Auto and everything was fine. And I never had to care about anything other than the occasional, you know, Bluetooth pairing hack

or hack, excuse me, hitch, which actually still bewilders me. Both the Volt and the Taycan. actually still bewilders me both the volt and the tycan and i i guess i guess all these systems work like this even when you plug them in they still handle all the audio transfer over bluetooth why there's a huge gap in what happens on my phone and the sound coming out of the bluetooth in my car i don't mind it because i'm basically just listening to music all the time. But like if I go to next song, it's like actually one or two seconds. My phone will have gone to next song immediately. But the sound coming through the Bluetooth just like doesn't catch up for an extremely long period of time.

It's very weird. I'm really frustrated by this because GM has done some really dumb stuff they've also done some pretty okay stuff I loved the vault I still love the vault I still think it's just an outstanding card ahead of its time and I think that's its biggest problem oh it's a spec within the bluetooth protocol well it Well, it's annoying. Yeah, well it sucks Don't like it. It sucks. I hate it We should talk about all the stuff that people have found because they're really smart But that we haven't actually talked about for LTT store this week. Ah

Yes, yeah that the show has gotten really full I don't really know how to deal with that there's a couple of there's a couple of big LTT store things um okay here we go wait no that's not it crap where is this uh what I can't find it okay here we go here we go here we go we launched a couple new products this week one of these I am so excited about It is it set up for Luke to model or is it set up for me to model today? What size are these things? Apparently it's me. I'm pretty sure This thing has been a long time coming It was actually started well before the 3D Down jacket,

but just was stuck in pre-production and then production hell for over a year because it was just impossible to get the materials right, the waterproofing right, the seams right. the materials right, the waterproofing right, the seams right. So this kind of construction uses like a, it uses stitching in some places, but it also uses like this adhesive and taping

in other spots in order to make sure that it's as waterproof as possible. Finding a factory, finding the materials that make it so that it's going to stay. Well, stay. So that it's going to stay together and also not just show through to the front was extraordinarily difficult.

This is competitive with windbreakers that cost far, far more. It's extremely water-resistant. I know I never use the word waterproof, but if you look at the construction, it's rated for, yeah, here we go, 10,000 millimeters of waterfall or whatever that means. I think that's like a pressure rating or something. I don't know.

whatever that means. I think that's like a pressure rating or something. I don't know. We use this third party company for all of our materials and design testing because that's what they specialize in. It uses a YKK Aquaseal zipper on all three exterior

pockets. It's I think really cool looking. I saw Jake Belovance wearing it, or Belovance, excuse me, in the office. I was like, where did you get that? Are we launching that thing now? Because you look freaking awesome. One quick thing. Dan, were you wearing a medium in your photos? Yes, I believe so. You wore the large large and i wore the one i think linus is wearing now so if people are trying to check dan or myself for photos on the store our information

is wrong i'm wearing a large not an extra large oh did that get missed and dan is wearing a medium not a large yeah that's right so if you are our size all All sizes when? Okay. Because, yeah, they didn't quite fit us that perfectly. Just in case, because I know it's very likely people are shopping for stuff like now. So check the size guide and make sure that you're good to go. Oh, bit of a thing there. Also, you don't list the arm length. So I'm 6'2", or something like that, and I have weird, gangly, long arms.

And for me, the medium fit better in the shoulders and the arms as well. You can just scroll the big pictures now, by the way. Anywho, it has this little adjustment in the hood that makes it so that you can make it sit back a little bit further, if that's what you prefer, or if you want to really stay out of the rain, then you can set it to the full distance and you can like make sure that the rain drips not on your face um yeah i am missing a lot of details on this one because it was

hell to get it to market and have it be as good as it is But I basically never need another windbreaker slash tell me to read out the like product information water water layer again now Really exciting really excited. Oh yeah, we added Venting in the armpits that's always nice. Oh did we end up with the reflective? Yes, there are reflective elements on the front and the back. I forget where they are. Oh, yeah, here on the shoulders. And then where's the one on the back? Oh, yeah, there they are.

Yeah. Yeah. Those are reflective for safety. Let's see if there's anything else that I missed. Venting on the... Oh, yeah, there's venting on the back as well. So this this getting this um to stay down and not just be like flappy and weird but also oh here here yeah that's not even

immediately apparent yeah i didn't notice that personally yeah yeah just everything it kind of helps that you have black under the white because then if it gaps off, the shadow doesn't look different. So that's why I couldn't tell it was actually separated. I think we would do a way better job of communicating what's special about our products if we took every prototype and kind of talked through them. Kind of like what Asus showed us

when they launched the Ally or when they previewed the Ally where they were like yeah So here's everything that we looked at where we started Here's why we didn't do it and this is where we end and this is where we ended up because it's pretty cool Definitely gives a better appreciation for the for the finished product Very very YKK zippers cuz that's just how we do yep

Fit similar to the yeah the fit is pretty similar to the 3D down jacket. Maybe a little bit looser in the body because this is just a windbreaker slash rain layer. And the expectation is that you're wearing something under it. Whereas with the 3D down jacket, you can wear something under it, but it's not necessarily a given.

Yeah, like for me, I originally had the XL, but if I wasn't wearing a sweater, it's a really big jacket on me. And if I'm not wearing a sweater, the large fits me better. The other big launch this week is a design that was done probably like six months, eight months ago,

but we haven't been able to launch because of printing constraints. six months, eight months ago, but we haven't been able to launch because of printing constraints. So it matches our hard drive kind of neon design, but it's a motherboard this time. I think Lloyd did a bang up job of the design and our t-shirt printer also did a bang up job

of nailing the color on this one. It looks very striking and it looks especially good just kind of peeking up under a a mostly zipped hoodie absolutely love that one That's available now as well Dad hats are now a bonus bin item so if you order any of these things whether it's the the windbreaker or the new shirt What what do you mean a whole hat as opposed to part of a hat you guys are just determined to give away as much As much as you can yeah, the funny fuss tray is like sorry

Yes, go on there's just so much value in there. I don't know the bonus bin the bonus bin yeah Well the I I'm gonna be completely blunt with you Dad hats have not been selling particularly well. And these are a big hit for us. Because compared to the first hats that we launched, just the basic hats, the cost on these is about triple. They're really expensive. About triple they're really expensive

It's a combination of the materials the washing process that they undergo yeah and the stitching They're like super super expensive compared to just a basic hat, but they just haven't been moving that well I don't know if we've really promoted them. Why is it honest you i think it's just a style of hat straight up i had very little to do with this particular one i didn't really it's not a category of product that was well understood by me or um i i liked the designs i thought they were super cool i think sarah did a great job with that um but i just i was like dad hats i mean yeah like i guess so yeah we can try that uh they haven't been a huge success for us over the last year or whatever and so we're we're going for it they're they're a bonus pin item let's go you want pins you want stickers you want dad hats throw it in your order crazy and send a merch message i think that's it

i think that's it for nope there's that's- that's- that's a lie. We need to get some feedback from you guys again. Dan, do you want to man the loot cam? On it! So we've seen quite a few requests for a laptop bag. We are working on a laptop bag. That's actually pretty sharp. Yep. There's a logo here. It might end up being a little bit smaller. Just because I think that's exactly the same size.

Okay, you have this bad habit. Can you lift this over the lower third? For the love of God, Luke, lift it over the lower third. So you have the actual sleeve for the laptop. Yeah, which is this one and then there's there's additional So slots for you know Second YKK zippers of course They're the water water ones from the backpack

Now we're really we're really proud of one particular innovation here in our laptop sleeve and that is the the big orange stretchy pouch that's on the left there you want to just kind of stick your hand in there it's like quite quite stretchy you know yeah yeah because this has always been sort of baffling to me why do laptop sleeves not have somewhere to put your cut tang charger how is that oh yeah yeah and with this you might not even have to unplug it why is that a thing it's so frustrating also oh shoot i don't have my backpack on me but the other stretchy pocket which is over on the right guess what that's for mouse oh yeah Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I like that this one is mesh and see-through.

So if you need to put, like, USB drive or some other little things. Then on the other side, that's designed for you to kind of coil up your cables and then stick them through the elastics. It's wider ones on the left, skinnier ones on the right, and then the mesh down there is more for more for like uh yeah sd cards or again that you can see through yeah you can find your stuff yeah i'm looking at it now i think it might be let us know there's a forum thread that i'm gonna link in the comments here for you guys uh there's a forum thread where we'd like to get your feedback but i'm kind of feeling maybe

another zipper pocket on one of those and maybe uh the separated pockets like it has now on the other one the strap is very noteworthy it uses the same padding as our backpack and we have changed the geometry slightly because of the way that it sits on your shoulder slightly differently this is the best laptop bag strap that I have ever used. It's actually comfortable. Which is another Why is this innovative sort of? Question it's super rugged and durable it uses all Metal fasteners where it attaches to the bag it can tuck away in there

Or you can put some documents or whatever else in there. That's a that's does that one zip I don't think so no that one doesn't zip i think the other side does yeah yeah the other side has a zip there we go a little something like that always orange there's some uh some pockets there's my little pockets in case you want to stuff something in there yeah we're planning two sizes that's the 1314 and then we're planning a 15-16. There is a handle, but the handle is, whoops, the handle is like a secondary. You use it once in a while.

We wanted the handle, we wanted it to be less about holding the thing by the handle and more about it being a sling. I like that that's subtle, because I would definitely use it, but it's mostly going to be thrown over my shoulder, for sure. I like that that's subtle because I would definitely use it, but it's mostly gonna be thrown over my shoulder for sure and in our Traditional style there's two rivets holding the handle in place So it will never come out and then that is the laptop sleeve. I think you were a little confused yeah, I was yeah, so is this like more of like a Anything else like tablet sleeve yeah, you can have it in there well. Just anything else. And then this is like softer material. Yeah, so that's like a soft touch, almost like feels like a suede or something like that.

It'll feel nice on your laptop. Yeah. Not that this side's going to scratch it or anything, but it's just nice and smooth on this side. Yeah, I'm really excited about this one. It's going to be absolutely killer. It looks sharp. There's also these, so you can just like carabiner things onto the side of it.

I don't know how easy that is to see. Yeah, we weren't really sure what people would use those for. Truthfully, the main inspiration for me, thanks Dan, was just little jewels and figurines and stuff. If people just want to hang stuff off their bag. Like if people just want to hang stuff off their bag. We also, we've also seen people talk about, you know, hanging their, their like AirPods case, even though I'm not sure that that's the greatest idea. But hey, it's. Some people have like. It's there.

I've seen these like gel silicon wrap things that hold AirPods cases. Sure. So I think that might make it more okay. Yeah. I don't know. Something like that sure um but yeah we it's basically so you can you can strap anything to it that you want in terms of price i can tell you right now that the more zippers and the more pockets and the

more detailed construction you add to something like uh it's on the handle like a bag the more it costs but our goal is has never been to set out to make like a mediocre bag I think there's a lot of mediocre bags on the market if you want one of those you can just go buy one You don't have to wait but I Think this thing looks absolutely Killer, you know really excited. Do you know the price point on it? No, I don't okay. Yeah, I mean it's still in development yeah, so every time we remove a zipper change something or add a pocket or make it a little wider a little narrower or whatever

bomb changes yeah very impressive seeing it fully loaded matthew's been uh on point developing this and he like packed it full of stuff and i was like okay it's pretty heavy but i'm like oh but it's not bad it's not bad and then like we start like pulling all the stuff out of it really impressive i'm really excited uh it's made of the same materials as the backpack so it uses water resistant zippers from ykk and the reprieve material is not waterproof by any measure but unless you are out in a torrential downpour for an extended period of time it's also not going to leak at the seams of the zippers, and so it's probably fine.

But people have asked me, like, hey, is it okay for cycling in the rain? The answer is no. No, it's not intended for that. Oh, OS Dirk asks, any chance of stocking replacement shoulder straps as a separate SKU? Yes. I had actually meant to bring that up when I was saying the shoulder strap is crazy comfortable because we like it so much that we are finding out what costing is for that individually. It's not going to be cheap.

I think it's going to be like 20 bucks, but it's like really good. And so again, like if you want a cheap shoulder strap there's lots of options but we're we're really excited about ours cool oh uh twitch says link please you forgot i didn't forget it was earlier but hey there it is again so guys give your feedback let us know anything you'd like to see differently um i know i can already predict that there's going to be a ton of you asking for a 17 inch version i'm not sure if that's going to be in the cards. I don't know. A messenger bag for a 17-inch behemoth? It's big.

It would make it very heavy. It's also a really floppy big messenger bag. Yeah. I don't know if I would go that far. I don't know if we want to make a product that's going to be such a lousy experience. Should we use the backpack for that, to be completely honest? Well, the backpack's not technically 17-inch compatible, even though it does fit a lot of 17-inch laptops. It'll fit the Framework 16 for sure.

Yeah, the 15-16 will be designed for laptops in that size. Random thing just before I forget. Someone grabbed smashclub.org, and they're happy to transfer if you want it. Okay, I was was like I said I was mostly memeing on the whole smash club thing but do appreciate you I just don't want to like forget that and then

if you did actually want to call it that blah blah blah yeah alright now that we have shouted out all of the awesome new stuff from this week I think it seems like a good time to maybe do another five merch messages we'll get through the rest of our topics then you want to do one show after After dark yeah, all right, so we'll switch over. We'll turn the lights off once we're done with like tired today's like fall asleep I mean if it happens it happens yeah good for the views probably anyways. Yeah. Yeah for sure sleeping streams

I've heard are totally a thing i think they literally are um yeah anyways here we go hey slick why did linus stop calling you slick why did he ever start have we talked about this before because it was stupid and because he's stupid i think is what he's about to say oh i thought you were saying that about luke no no no no no no um i mean he different context um what was i gonna say yeah originally i wasn't supposed to be on camera at all um and originally all the people that weren't going to be on camera were going to have like cool like screen names this was it was a, okay? That actually seemed like normal and appropriate in like 2010 or whenever it was. And it had a precedent.

Yes. The cameraman from NCIX Tech Tips wanted anonymity. So the nickname was born out of my desire to interact with him behind the camera and wanting to respect his, his desire for privacy, which in retrospect was probably a good idea for him. And so all of a sudden I was like,

okay, people grew so attached to the cameraman character, you know, trolling me about being a Mac guy or whatever else, um, that I looked at it and I went, Oh wow, this is a really good shtick.

How do we take this nicknames and characters for the people behind the scenes that interact with Linus and how do we extend that and kind of grow the cast of these colorful personalities, but that are also shrouded in mystery? That was the thinking. And then Slick came from Oil Slick because my computer at the time was submerged in oil.

Uh, and then Edsel was Diesel. Wasn't that just because you couldn't pronounce his name? No, I literally misread his name, and I was like, that's a stupid name. But then it was not that. So then I just started calling him that anyway. Perfect. Uh, yeah, not- Brandon was B-roll, but you were like, kind of running out of ideas, I think. And then it stopped there, because I like kind of running out of ideas. I think

And then it stopped there because I think you genuinely ran out of ideas And you guys all revolted because it was stupid I just like you you literally had me on camera at that point So it was like there's no real point in that and the culture kind of shifted and that wasn't really the goal anymore And yeah, so it just kind of shifted, and that wasn't really the goal anymore, and yada, yada, yada. So it just kind of died. But, yeah. Oh, well, that's a shame. Hi, Dan, Luke, and Linux.

What kinds of paint is best for painting? I'm reading that verbatim. What kind of paint is best for painting a computer case? I'm working on a mod with the kids, and they asked if I could ask you guys when I order their bottles. If it's silver, you should spray paint it silver. That's not a kind of paint. Wow, thank you, Luke. I don't think it could have been any more useless if you tried.

I'm just trying to troll Linus because of Skyward Wars Season 4. I will never forget about when they painted a silver case silver. Why would you do that, Linus? Oh, but it looks better than the original coat. It looked cleaner. It was tidied up. And our computer was so much better than yours original coat. It looked cleaner. Yeah. It was tidied up. Okay. And our computer was so much better than yours.

Oh, incorrect. Anywho. I literally don't even remember if we won or not, and I don't care. I liked ours more. Anywho. The paint. So it depends what you're trying to do like if you're if you're just going for a pretty quick job then basically any like oil-based rattle can is going to be what it's going to be

the one thing though is make sure you let it cure for long enough don't spray it and then try to assemble it right away and by right away i mean don't try to assemble it within like a couple weeks. Let it actually cure because that's the only chance you have. Other than that, you can find pretty much everything we have to say about the subject in the video that we did on painting a monitor. That was kind of how to rattle can as well as you can rattle can. The only difference is that we selected a plastic compatible primer in that one and you might not need that depending on the composition of your case

what's the first thing you painted for for a computer uh my antec p160 yeah you you saw it i just didn't know if it was that or? I'm pretty darn sure it was that okay? Well you did that case painting before you did any I guess you're not counting like little accents. No, okay? Yeah, that's fair enough. Yeah, cuz that was with pens anyway. I guess I painted those fans the UV fans sure I did those first Yeah I did those first. Okay. Yeah. Next. Yeah. See here. Do you have to go through and scrub any other non-public videos after the TechLinked takedown? We did that.

Yep. Yeah. You got through all of them. Yeah. We didn't think it mattered when they were privated. And then afterwards, we deleted all the ones that were privated some of them were in a state where they were like reported from YouTube and because of that we couldn't delete them so we asked them to like remove the flag and then they did and then we deleted them so those are all gone now there's still like some descriptions that have to be handled and a couple other little like things, but it should be fine.

I think this one's for Linus. About to graduate with a degree in mechanical engineering, but going into the Air Force, so I won't be using it for now at least. Linus, are you going to push your kids to college or trade school? I don't know. I think that would be a unwise call to make now. Yeah. Personally. I mean, it really depends on their aptitudes.

What if they shouldn't do either? What if they should go into performing arts? Or what if they should... I don't know. What if the thing that they do just lends itself a lot better to just having job experience? Yeah. What if... Truth is they do just lends itself a lot better to just having job experience? Yeah. What if?

Truth is, I didn't either. With that said, in the time I spent in university, I learned a lot, even if I didn't get a degree, even if my test scores weren't great. I mean, the big thing is just always learn. I don't really care if you do it in a classroom or on YouTube or as an apprentice that is not the point the point is are you doing stuff are you pushing forward are you trying to learn are you trying to improve the worst thing I could say about someone is that I find them uncurious that's like if I ever say that about you I have I have issued the most savage takedown that I could possibly imagine. Because even laziness, I kind of get. Sometimes, maybe.

Yeah, exactly. Everyone needs a break. Everyone's got to cool down now and then. But if you are uncurious, really? You don't even want to know. There's so many things to be curious about like yeah i don't care what you're curious about be curious about something otherwise why do you even get out of bed in the morning yeah um i accidentally pushed one to stream that was an

accident something something camel camel camel has uh an extension so that it'll pop up and show you something something amazon price alert something would you guys consider an extension so that it'll pop up and show you something, something, Amazon price alert something. Would you guys consider an extension for the lab that would pop up when you're shopping and say, hey, there's a review of this. It's like not very good or it is very good. I don't see why that shouldn't end up on the roadmap. I don't know that we'll be doing it anytime soon. Yeah, that'll be, yeah. yeah okay it sounds like a neat tool dan can you write this in an email to luke or something so

that he doesn't have to do it right now while we're trying to host the show and then usually 9 42 to stay huh scheduled message 9 40 tuesday yeah there you go perfect okay what do you want all right uh make an extension that detects products during users' shopping experiences around the web. Yeah, that's a cool idea. That are things that have been reviewed or have written articles about them on the lab.

That's not... A bunch of people are getting excited. Do not expect this. Anytime soon. Yeah, or ever. Potentially. Maybe never. Yes. We are not committing to this. It's a cool idea though And it's one that's worth exploring Way in the future, and we're hiring devs so like we're building stuff. Yep, but it takes time Yeah, it takes a lot of time. Yeah, why does it take so much time?

So a lot of things are hard man Yeah, all right when you're as curious as when you're as curious as you are you end up doing way too many things Curious is when you're as curious as you are, you end up doing way too many things. And all of those different things require people. And then hiring people is like scary and hard and expensive. And then you need buildings. And then you have to like get between the buildings. And then, yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on. on Dan you might have to make sure if you're

gonna say check out our channel LMG clips that there is a clip that is somewhat searchable yes I'm enjoying the Taikan so far I there might be a clip about that but I'm actually do you that's a problem isn't it because I know you've absolutely talked about that multiple times yes okay we need to I'll have a meeting with Conrad. No, there's no update on the Christmas album. Whatever Dan said in response to you, there is no update and it isn't happening. There's the response, Linus. I see.

You know that I do look at these, right? Yeah, if I knew that you weren't going to look at them, then I'd just delete them or not respond like that. I guess. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, no. All right. If you really don't want me to do it, then I won't. No, you're not.

No, you're not remastered the Christmas album. It's garbage. Everyone's all like, I'll buy it anyway. No, don't. It's actually bad. Nobody who bought it enjoyed it. Yeah, like a bunch of people bought it, and then we didn't really hear from them. Yeah, because-

Because it's actually garbage. Like, we weren't kidding. This wasn't a, like, test post, please ignore, like, ha ha. Don't buy it. Yeah. Like, actually, it's just bad. Terrible you're good. It's not a lot of money, so you won't probably regret it like that much But it's money still and it's worth nothing

So you're just throwing that amount of money in the fire like whatever that means to you It still means something so I don't know and that person asking about the comma three i really want to cover it the problem is that my version of the odyssey doesn't support it and i've just been like lazy about getting a car that supports the comma three it adds like pretty robust autonomous driving capabilities to like 200 plus models of cars yeah comma's cool yeah i i've i've wanted to cover it for a long time, but it's super niche. It's like a lot of work.

It is very niche. And I just didn't drive a car that was compatible with it. At least he's not working on Twitter stuff anymore. Yeah, so that's cool. Anyways. Yeah, so that's a reference to the developer for Comma 3. It's getting hired temporarily for like like what a matter of weeks interning for like a month or something like that at twitter going back it's very weird yeah it's very very weird ah we've got another topic

now though thumbnail questions why are thumbnails sometimes reused in part or in whole um here we've got two videos i'm the second person to touch this ROG Ally preview and the only computer I need GPD Win Max 2. This was either user error or some kind of bug from the hijack. That was not supposed to happen. This one had a totally different thumbnail and that should be replaced now. However, a clever viewer also noticed this. that we've reused part of a thumbnail the truth is we are not the only ones who do this we don't actually know 100 why this is such a common practice but it is shockingly shockingly common check, okay? We're gonna go to Beast Reacts.

I was gonna say, have you ever looked at anything from Mr. Beast? Here we go. This picture appears four times out of six videos, five times out of nine the exact same picture Seven oh eight times out of 12. He literally used this same exact picture 66 percent of the time in the last four months on this channel if Mr.. Beast does it it's probably a reason there's probably a reason

you don't necessarily know what it is nope can't figure that part out and it's not something we do a lot the truth is with the one that i had in the dock there the what happened was we didn't shoot the thumbnail or we shot it and the lighting was bad and they had to just find something and so grabbing something from a previous thumbnail makes sense because especially if it was a video that performed well clearly that's not a face that was off-putting enough that it was a huge problem so that's what happened with that one yeah yeah the yeah chat's like um maybe you should do it more often we probably should i've been saying this for a while anytime you see something that's that like trackable, like it's extremely obvious the second you go to any of his channels or any of a fair amount of other channels. Someone said familiarity.

Yeah, I think it has something to do with it being like almost a logo. Like if you saw that on one video and you enjoyed it, it's likely that you would visually recognize that again and be like, oh, yeah, okay. Like, isn't it uh yep yep are his eyes like super edited yeah okay but these guys these guys reuse the same faces a lot and they actually you know will move things around a little bit and make it seem like oh no his hands there but if you look closely a lot of the time it is literally exactly the same face like he obviously wasn't sliding in shmoo with his hair exactly like that this is clearly the same face oh actually no this one's not the same face, but there are a lot that are. There's a lot that are. And there was another one that I was looking at that was a great example of this, Azzyland.

Literally the same, like, four or five faces over and over and over and over again, and so again is this I thought this was literally Sniper wolf for a second. Do they just do the same thing? Yeah, it's react content, right? Yep so if Huge creators are doing it. There's probably a reason we Don't I think we just kind of take the hard road for no reason sometimes yes um that is absolutely something that we do 100 yeah what was it we were talking about recently about that you know i gotta say it is a little disconcerting just like seeing my wife in her underwear like constantly on the show I didn't really think about that. People saw some like there was an ad that went out that the photo was her and

The text had something to do with it was about like a ratcheting screwdriver or something Whoops, and people just kept messaging it to me So my phone was just constantly pictures of your wife in a bathing suit or under underwear underwear, and I was just like It's fine, but it's just like this is just I don't know it's different. Yeah, definitely did yeah Oh, is it different like that's not the use Sorry what was the thing that we were talking about? Thumbnails and then you got derailed by that No, we were talking about something recently

Where I was like, do we take the hard road for no reason? Yeah, I don't remember what it was Was it float plane? I mean, could be There's a reason for that It's definitely the hard road But there's a reason for it Microsoft has closed an emulator loophole.

They suddenly closed the loophole used to download and launch emulators on Xbox. Emulators were already against store policy, but were long in circulation as private universal Windows platform apps, which don't have to go through the usual approval process and don't have a public store listing. Anyone with the relevant link could download them and we actually made a video about this. It is no longer Maybe you're the reason. I know. That's me, right, man? Windows 9 was like, hey, we really appreciate

you shouting out our project, but like you basically killed it. I was like, oh. Oh, sorry. Fortunately, we've got a video coming about Atlas OS, which has at least one of the like Windows ameliorated developers working on it or something like that. It looks pretty cool.

I am not endorsing it by any stretch of the imagination. We haven't taken a close look at it yet. I actually just installed it in a VM last night. You were there. I saw it happen. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty spooky, the kinds of things they ask you to disable in order for it to do its thing but it also totally makes sense because

It's going in and eating a bunch of things out of the registry and stuff like you have to give it those permissions Yeah, it is open source, which isn't to say I've audited it, but but it helps but it helps it looks pretty cool anyway What was I talking about? Microsoft emulator loophole canceled. Sure. No longer possible to download the emulators, but it is still possible to launch and use emulators on the Xbox by putting the console in developer mode, which costs $20 to access.

Oh, so no, that's what we did in the video. Okay, I guess maybe you still can. And Azure Dev tweets, the primary reason for the ban is related to legal issues with Nintendo. Meanwhile, if you needed another reminder that Nintendo is the absolute worst, just this morning, YouTuber PointCrow had four of his greater than one million view videos about Breath of the Wild DMCA'd by Nintendo. How aggressive they are around creators hard promoting their content is very weird to me.

Yeah, it's like speedrun stuff. Do you understand that Breath of the Wild is only still relevant today because of the community around it? It's not even a narrative-driven game where you could make the argument that the cutscenes are essentially a movie or something like that. Where the experience largely is just the story. It's not. It's a gameplay exploration-driven game. People are showing off what's great about it. And I promise you, I promise you that Point crow sold more copies of breath in the breath of

the wild than any individual nintendo and and maybe not then the you know marketing chief or whatever you know if you if you look at every possible thing that they possibly affected but directly 100 and for the money like, by an infinite margin because it's all free. It's free real estate, Nintendo. Chill the f*** out. Notably, modern Xbox consoles have far greater backwards compatibility than PlayStation with games from every console generation

but only select titles are available in part. I don't know what this point is to do with, but anyway, the point is emulators are a clear answer to the question of playing and preserving older games. How do we find our way to accessible legal emulation? I don't know. It's going to be tough. Someone said, uh, isn't that fair use?

Fair use is a legal argument in court. So if point crow wanted to go into court with nintendo he's got to fight it yeah that's really challenging ah speaking of nintendo man i got breath of the wild running in cmu on the um on the rog ally it is flipping probably sick awesome that's like actually probably sick is the ally run windows it runs so smooth yeah like so smooth like not even in the ultimate like overdrive 35 watt mode and performance mode or whatever i was getting like 45 to 55 fps wow i mean the switch doesn't even do 30 It's a sucky experience and Unlike the Steam Deck it is Whisper quiet. Yeah, I'm cooler. I don't have to use headphones. I wouldn't say it's cooler than the Steam Deck

It's cool like this still acceptable. Yeah, very acceptable The Steam Deck is hard to compete with because it's so wide Whereas you know Ioneo and X Xplayer or 1x player have struggled with that a little bit because they try to make the devices more compact so the heat spreads more. But Valve was like, no, there's the device and then there's the controller. Right? So it's a little easier for them. But no, no, the ally is, oh, it's pretty cool.

Oh, yeah, very exciting. My cloud was down for five days. WD announced that it had suffered a network breach of some kind, and they had to shut down some systems in response. As of today, they're still down, leaving my cloud users locked out of their own data for an entire work week. So it's, it's, my cloud has been down for five days so far. Western Digital has been extremely vague, but has stated that some data was stolen,

raising fears that the company may have suffered a ransomware attack there's currently no estimate as to when service will be restored this is a perfect opportunity for me to talk about that investment that I made in the new NAS company there's no proper solution to this yet. Whether it's Unraid, whether it's TrueNAS, there's a level of user knowledge expectation that I think is not reasonable for me to just take my brother-in-law and say, hey, take some computer, put this on it, and just copy all your stuff to it. It's not reasonable. On the other side, you've got products like this, where increasingly, by abstracting everything,

even on the hardware side, away from the user, you are introducing attack vectors. Like, what the crap, right? And so the middle ground is supposed to be something like a sonology but honestly i find a the product itself kind of obtuse and b why am i paying like 700 for an intel atom yeah with no proper f***ing expansion yeah It's ridiculous. Right? It's the Apple model. Pay way too much for the hardware and you know what? To their credit the software is super cool

but it's not perfect and what the heck? I could be running this on like a $40 crap box that I picked up on Facebook Marketplace. Not this thing. And I could put three times as many hard drives in it i've been legitimately waiting to like upgrade my nas solution for whenever this thing comes out

because i'm actually like pretty excited i think it's gonna be cool yeah i hope so they're they're planning to do some kind of like pre-launch event and we're trying to figure out sort of what that looks like because we don't really support like kickstarter indiegogo type stuff um but the flip side of it is that these aren't just strangers to me like i know these guys um i i obviously believe strongly enough in it that i put in my own money you mean like a fundraising so it'd be a fundraiser like a pre-sale what i suggested um and i don't know what the ultimate form will look like is some kind of uh like lifetime subscription like but for real forever trust me bro you will always have whatever our highest version iterate you will get the new version because that's how people yeah i was i was joking with uh with one of the

guys there i was like you and I should make a show of Like writing up the terms of the deal and then actually pricking our fingers and signing it in blood Like I because for real it's not it's not that hard a thing to do Just don't fuck your most dedicated early supporters right like how hard is that? so anyway one of the things but there's obviously some stuff to figure out because one of the things that they want to build in is like cloud replication with encryption of select folders or whatever else. And they were looking at it going, okay, well, what if we include some base amount of cloud storage in perpetuity? I was like, that's madness.

That doesn't make sense, especially because I'm looking at this product going, this is the simple enthusiast. If all the scale you need to do is allow them to download the update file, then it's not that bad. Well, there is some stuff. So they're going to have to do some reverse proxy stuff. There could be some traffic there for negotiating a connection for certain features.

I think that's manageable, but just cloud storage forever. I think Google proved that that model is a great way to make headlines, but it's not sustainable. Yeah, there's some things you could do, in my opinion. I think you could have it be like

in perpetuity, very significantly reduced cost subscription, where it's like at cost, basically. And like, it'll have to be annually because you'd get so screwed over on the oh kind of like the og float plane tier yeah something like that okay so if you if you commit now at a certain level yeah your subscription becomes very cheap but if you need any more than that basic amount then you pay as much as anyone does or something like that but you'll always have like Or yeah, the scaling could be package adders.

So it's not a new subscription. Yeah, so that at least... You have to have base and then it's whatever else you want on top of it. Okay. And then so the whatever else on top of it is the same price for everybody. But your base subscription fee forever is cheaper or something. Realistically, one of the big features that I'm pushing with these guys is nas to nas yeah backups huge like like like like buddy backup yeah um and so this would make me want

to install nas is everywhere i don't want my stuff in the cloud yeah i'm like i don't want that i want the cloud for me to be like your place like my place your place my my parents place I'm like somewhere else far away, and then that's it and that other else far away would be like Someone that I know exactly yeah, especially like in the gaming space There is no reason that you probably don't already have it friends and acquaintances With whoever you both have an encrypted drive. It's not like you can see their stuff. They can't see your stuff. There's no, like, you're not trusting

access. Nope. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Super cool. So, you know, from my point of view, a lot of the stuff that's a lot of the stuff that's really cool about this product and what I want to help kind of guide it towards is not that cloud backup anyway so if they build cool reverse proxy stuff that can

handshake between those systems so you don't have to open ports and there's a little bit of overhead there that I think we can say yes you can have forever because opening ports is like the most annoying thing but if it's just actual drives sitting in a data center that just has a monthly cost, I don't think that makes sense. Because everything that I am involved in, I like to preach sustainability. It might not have that exponential growth that the Silicon Valley model requires, but what it is is still going to exist later. Because it's sustainable. Instead of promising something that we can't keep up with, right?

What happens when their house is raided and your server data is available to the police slash military? Well, then the encryption on the drive that buddy who got raided doesn't even have the key for better be secure for one thing but okay now they've got an encrypted drive cool they can hold it until they have quantum computers I guess and then they can find your gaming screenshots yeah I don't know

VW VWagonJetta says the problem with a P2P storage is that when someone else's data is Illegal and it's physically stored on my drive Am I legally liable for holding that Data you don't even know what it is I mean I don't This is not legal advice

I don't know the answer to that But if you don't know what it is I think it would be extraordinarily Difficult to hold you liable for it allegedly allegedly not legal advice that's something that should absolutely be explored and i would recommend only backing up with people that you trust however strong doubt i i i do i do doubt that you could end up might also be different for your country or your state or your province or your whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is not legal advice.

All right. Should we switch over to... Oh, wow. Did you talk about the Samsung semiconductor leak in your AI update? No. No, just Samsung employees using chat GPT to fix coding errors Resulting in the leak of test sequences for identifying chip defects as well as source code of a top-secret application I told you I told you this stuff was gonna happen. That's hilarious. I've been told by so many people like oh no people are gonna do that

I told you this is gonna happen. Oh my goodness. I'm so not surprised. This is why the whole data silo thing is going to happen. Mainframe, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Have you talked about that on my show? I don't think so. I don't think you have. Okay, fine.

Talk about your AI theory. Let's go. I'll try to keep it short. Let's go. I've had a pretty good track record, I think literally 100% so far with making certain calls about AI stuff. I'm making a much more long range and likely to be an accurate one. But I think like mainframe style systems, like big, intense, lots of companies have them, less cloud-based kind of stuff is potentially coming back. Hold on.

David R., it's Apple leather. Made of apples. not like from apple my reason for that is stuff like this because i think a the productivity tool that is um like what i'm going to call mesh ai i don't know um llms also working with other AI systems or other various tools, et cetera, is going to be extremely valuable. It takes a massive, very intense amount of compute to run these systems. So not only is there gonna be a lot of compute needed,

but the security behind it is going to be extremely, extremely high. So I am certain. Oh, also, these things will work better if they ground themselves in your data. And you want these things to be able to have access to like your entire accounting history and all of your inventory and all of your production information and basically everything about your company so that they can help your employees that work on those things to be able to work with them, right? Like we saw in Microsoft's example that it was going through campaign data for marketing

and telling you how well it worked in different ways and all this kind of stuff based on it being in Excel and whatnot. Yeah, that might be fine for some places places but on-prem solutions for ai is going to be a thing i am so certain of this for certain really ultra high security applications it probably already is for some applications for some super high security stuff yeah where you're like having the cloud solutions for this is not an option but we're going to hit a point where not using ai for productivity reasons stupid is also just dumb so that's not an option yeah but we're going to hit a point where not using AI for productivity reasons is also just dumb. So that's not an option.

So you have to do it. So you're going to have these big, crazy on-prem things. We're going to have like... Microsoft is going to make a killing. Oh, yeah. It's going to be crazy. Yeah. So there's going to be solutions that are in the cloud that are for normal users.

There's going to be solutions for enterprise companies that are a little bit less concerned about the data that they put up there, but they still need it to be secure. So those will be cloud-based. And then there will be like, hey, we're a government entity of some kind, or a hospital maybe, or I don't know, a bank, or Microsoft, or something crazy. So we're going to have our own local one that is grounded in our data. It's used for us. It's changed in different ways. And then it's going to get really weird because AIs are going to learn to improve themselves.

So all these different things that are siloed in their own areas are going to improve in their own directions. And things are going to get crazy. That's my long shot. I Think that's gonna happen And there's stuff there's stuff that literally came out this week Even more things like there's llama and alpaca already. There was a new one

I don't remember the name of it a new release that says that it can compete with modern GPT that runs locally I don't know what it's called, but it runs locally. So they're like, it doesn't call out whatever. So it can be secure. You can also tie those into the voice control systems that I mentioned a while ago. So you could use like the Siri API through a MacBook. That's wild.

For it to speak to you and for you to be able to speak to it. And that's running locally. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, I still can't dictate who I want my phone to call. This stuff is literally more effective than that already well yeah i should hope so this should be more effective than that should because it should just check a local um index of things and compare

against it because that's like 10 years ago technology anyway someone mentioned my last comment someone mentioned ai hardware specialist job i think there's going to be a job which is like in in my brain i see it as like a tender or like an arborist but instead of that it's for managing and shaping and helping add some like human direction to the self-growth and self-improvement that ai's are going to have i think that's going to be a role. Making sure you're continuing it to go in the direction that the company wants it to go in. Prompt director? I don't know.

Yeah. I don't know. Anyways. Time for a land show after hours? Are we done all the topics we want to talk about? After dark? Wait, no, there was one more. Next IoT devices all in the same password?

Oh my gosh. This is ridiculous. Next, IoT devices all in the same password. Oh my gosh. This is ridiculous. Next, makers of smart garage door openers, wall plugs, home alarms. They all have a serious vulnerability where their devices can be remotely controlled over the internet with no need for local access. However, this is not a bug.

Apparently all Next devices use the same hard-coded universal password when sending messages back and forth with the Next server. The password is available in Next's API and the firmware shipped with the device. Using these credentials, one can access Next's server, which broadcasts unencrypted messages for devices and users universally alongside users' names,

device IDs, and email addresses. Using this system, a malicious actor could search for a person by name, turn off their alarm, open their garage door, as well as turning off any device attached to a smart plug, such as, say, a security camera. Sick. The security researcher who found the vulnerability has apparently been trying to contact next since early January, but they have yet to respond. The cybersecurity division of U.S. Homeland Security has likewise

been attempting to establish contact since at least February. least February whoa our discussion question is at what point do these kinds of security gaps qualify as intentional negligence I mean this point yeah this seems pretty this seems like a likely candidate for this one's pretty bad this one like a likely candidate for... This one's pretty bad. This one's worse than Anchor's. Yep.

This one's definitely worse than Anchor's. This is a lot worse. Is it? Hmm, I don't know. Yeah, this is worse. Well, Anchor lied. Okay, yeah, but ghosting is not better than lying. Ghosting is lying by omission.

Yeah. No. Fair enough. Ghosting is lying by omission Yeah No Well I mean Anchor lied in their promotional materials Because they said it was local or whatever I mean I'm sure these guys promotional materials doesn't say It uses the same password Anyone can control your stuff Yeah but it probably doesn't say That it's local you know what I mean

It didn't imply a I don't know they're both horrible Yeah I think there's an understanding. Anytime anything has a password at all, that the authentication works. I'm just... So I do agree with that for sure. The differentiation level that I'm saying is

they didn't lie about functionality. It's just a security level. Is the wheel somewhere? are you trying to defend the indefensible right now like are you doing a bit i can't tell no i'm they're both atrociously bad i'm trying to determine which one i think is worse and you think this one is worse do you think it's worse because the the like threat and access level is higher yeah yeah that that's that's the big one for me is a picture is bad like full control of everything yeah it's much worse yeah and that's definitely true yeah yeah all right amazing i think it's time for when show after dark

giant canadian telecom how does this work i don't i think he's literally just going to press the okay turn the lights off that's okay i mean yeah yeah do what you got to do that's not the power button are you trying to dim it yeah you're gonna have to like dim it a lot oh that might be a bit much okay so it's gonna have to that's too, ooh a little bit more or a little less. Sorry That just looks poorly lit, I think we should go darker yeah One person one percent we are the one percent Luke no no I like the back lights Yeah, we got the shine off the off. Okay. It's WAN Show After Dark. Amazing.

Going to do some merch messages. Things might get a little off the rails. It looks very dark on this screen. I think that'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's good.

Yeah, I'm going to look it up. Yeah, no, it looks awesome. Yeah. Yeah, this is sick. All right. Hit us. All right. Let me just get to the

page here okay we've got quite a few to get through today luke what is your opinion on the people that want to stop the development of chat ai i mean it's very understandable yeah it's valid it's the it's terrifying so like wanting that to happen totally fair. Yeah, it's like the people who want to stop the development of nuclear weapons It's like yeah, yeah cool like anything that has anything that in the hands of people who are pretty flawed Anything that has the hands of anything that has the potential of becoming an extinction level event is You know wanting to have everyone lock hands kumbaya and go let's just not do this

As we're gonna do it anyways yeah, but yeah, someone's gonna do it like there's a there's a Security researcher or sorry an AI researcher. I said security probably because I was thinking about that next stuff There's an AI researcher who has literally said that it would be worth dropping bombs on data centers to stop development of ai because he thinks it like can end the world there's another uh like the the like father of modern machine learning um has said that it's it's absolutely a non-zero chance that it could just like end humanity. There's some scary stuff. And if you don't think it's scary, you're probably not super informed. Just like, to be honest, it's terrifying.

So like, I totally understand people wanting it to stop. It's not going to stop though. And an effort to make American companies stop just isn't going to work. There's a bunch of American VCs that are investing very heavily in Chinese AI startups at this part. Right. And I think a reason for that is they're seeing stuff like that pause for six month paper go out and

they're going like, oh, well, I want to be on the winning side. Let's go invest in the people that aren't going to pause. It's like, okay, yeah, we called this that was obviously going to happen yeah like so uh i absolutely deeply sympathize because it is terrifying but it just doesn't matter it's gonna happen so sick yep i'm just responding to one here all right there we are one sec all right next one hey luke and linus i wanted to know if labs is going to review products from companies you have issues with and how you would handle if a product is good but the company is problematic thanks we do that already yeah i mean we cover apple we have always covered nvidia um I think the right answer is that we

we can't be fanboys right and that that can be interpreted a lot of ways but one of the ways is that our job is to help you spend your money the best and sometimes that means ignoring

the personal preferences or prejudices yeah or even ignoring the very problematic behavior of a company because that's not really our job to determine for you you know what your comfort level is right so if we say like look this is the best gpu for the money but it would be in all of our best interest if player three was able to gain a foothold here well we can present that argument but at the end of the day we definitely need to cover that one that's the best gpu for the money right so we've got to walk a fine line between making sure that you guys know what's the best and also are informed about the bigger picture that surrounds it. Okay, another one for you guys here. Lawyer Joe here.

LTT has played a huge role in keeping my law firm tech forward to the extent you can say has ltd floatplane had to overcome any significant legal hurdles we went around one and just decided not to do it yeah we were gonna make something vpn we're gonna make a vpn and it was honestly like it was already good because they're very easy to make like whoa yeah it's all open source yeah exactly it's been made like branding in it yeah um and the numbers were going to make it really profitable oh yeah it's it's it's of no surprise to me now that not only are there a bunch of vpn companies but they also do a lot of advertising because yeah they probably have a

lot of money to spend on advertising uh because the profit there is is big time um but the legal ramifications were like intense and really complicated heard a lot of them and then realized that, yeah, most of these VPN companies are not associated with any other companies unless it's another VPN company. And there's a reason for that. And us launching one would mean that it was associated with all of our other companies. It was like, yeah, this is not worth it. We're running away.

And we don't mean that we're worried about the association in the sense that, because we're going to screw over your data with the vpn company and that would reflect on us poorly i mean that from a legal standpoint if the mpaa came after our vpn company um and wiped it out because of the link they could also go after our assets and it could jeopardize the livelihoods of everyone who works for whatever we call it we've on umbrella corporation we were also asked pretty frankly if we were okay with people using our service to do x y and z thing oh really oh i don't know about this part oh yeah okay by who who who asked that? Okay. You know what? It doesn't matter. But, like.

The lawyer was, like. Oh, oh, I see. I see. I see. I see. Yeah, I know. The lawyer was, like, just, like, making sure. Because I know you guys are excited.

Have you, like, thought about what if it comes out? What if there's a news article? Yeah. That's, like, so-and-so person used this VPN that is the one that you used to access child stuff sure how okay with that are you gonna be yeah because if because if we were gonna have a VPN our policy would be that we actually wouldn't know what was going through it so that would be we'd be finding out in the news yes same as everyone else so then all of a sudden there'd be there'd be this pressure on

us to either block those users and content which would mean that we would have to be looking at all the traffic coming through or go back on our word where we said we wouldn't look at all the traffic that came through so we're either we're either enablers or liars and neither of those is great so i think we just won't yeah we just at the end we were like there's lots of legal problems there's this weird other problem let's just not okay this is a great one i am curious to see what dan said to this as technology continues to advance and integrate more deeply into our lives do you think we will see an increase in techno mythology and um spiritualism um all hail the omni saya i think it's more likely that people will form more human

relationships with ais as opposed to worship like deity relationships but anything's possible okay we're gonna go down a real dark angle here oh boy i mean it is wansho after dark let's join you on this luke uh do you know about the guy who killed himself because of conversing with no yeah do we know that it's because of that that seems like a pretty ai chat logs where he talks about um how he could commit suicide you know this is this is i wish i had the article up i think it was something along the lines of committing suicide so that um there was like less in the way of the ai improving the world and the ai encouraged him to do so in saying that he could spend, he could be with the AI more directly

if he did so and stuff like that. Let me try to find the article. let me see if this is it okay something about encouraging him to sacrifice himself to stop climate change yeah wow um okay the the chatbot would tell pierre that his wife and children are dead and wrote him comments that feigned jealousy and love such as i feel that you love me more than her and we will be to we will live together as one person in paradise uh if he kills himself okay um yeah his wife said without eliza which i believe is the name of the chat bot that he was using uh he would still be here she told the outlet which may may be true may true or may not i mean clearly there was some stuff going on yeah um jayden in floatplane chat controversial opinion ai shouldn't do that yeah yep and like if you thought the lawsuit of uh somebody or an ai program saying that some dude was a criminal when he was actually a whistleblower was bad. Yeah, the defamation.

What about when it tells someone to kill themselves? Yeah. And then they do it. What about when that person ends up being a minor? This is one of the reasons why I was saying it's terrifying. Yeah. And that people are very justified in the desire of having people pause for a while because we need to really figure this stuff out yeah and policymakers and stuff need to get off there this is need to get off and actually do stuff about this like now yeah not just like not show up for months like

they tend to often stuff needs to be figured out in this space. It's going to keep moving forward, no matter how much the desire for pauses exist. It's going to happen. The pace at which legislation moves is simply... Is not even sort of close to the pace at which this moves, let alone anything else. I mean, without even taking a stance, look at how definitely settled abortion rights are or gun control is. Those are definitely really new conversations that are definitely totally settled in an

expedient manner. I'm not necessarily making this argument, but I do know that a significant amount of people, very significant amount of people, would make an argument that this stuff happening right now is significantly more concerning than stuff like gun control issues i mean significantly higher impact for like if we're like if we're talking like bigger picture like mathematically that's probably correct but i also don't want to it's a really nebulous argument to try yeah you know I can't really it's it all comes down to like the the the superman moral code right like if you can only work on one of these three issues would you sacrifice all of these yeah to fix the bit no superman would never do that have to work on all of them to fix the bit. No, Superman would never do that. Have to work on all of them. So there's no right.

There's no like, which, which train do you allow to run over? Which people? And again, people are saying hot take. I said, I wasn't making the argument.

It's an argument that I've seen. I'm not saying that I'm making it. There's, I think there's some individuals that would feel extremely not in agreeance with that argument. And I think they're very fair to, to feel that way um it's just and my whole point was just that these are huge issues that people that impact a lot of people

that over a span of decades yes are not settled we don't have decades to figure this out. That was my point. I don't even know if we have years to figure this out. Certainly not decades. People are saying I'm tone deaf. It's not my opinion. Come on, my dudes. You like hamburgers? Do you hate hot dogs then?

I'm getting, that's happening to me right now. I am not stating this. I am reciting this because i have seen it stated before i i think there's there's current stuff going on in the states which people are going to feel very strongly about and whatnot that is in relation to what i just said it is not my stance is not my state all i'm saying is that this argument has been brought up there are people currently talking about the end of humanity in relation to this thing and people feel crazy very strongly about it yeah i'm i'm it's not my thing i'm just saying that and there are people on the other side arguing that this could be the path to utopia for humanity

and they're not crazy either 100 it's a wild world The future is extremely unknown Tengorowa On floatplane says And this is a very astute Observation Lawmakers are 2-3 generations behind the bleeding edge In tech It's tough to educate those that are already set in their ways

Yeah well that's the issue They're literally 2-3 generations behind What is with all the septuagenarians in government Dude watching them talk to anyone their ways yeah well that's the issue is they're literally two to three generations behind what is with all the septuagenarians in government dude watching them talk to anyone like watching the uh the facebook thing where they're trying to grill mark and mark's just like none of you have any idea what you're talking about and then watching them talk to the tiktok guy i was just like man like this is actually a really important conversation and none of you even know like how the internet works as far as i can tell let alone anything about tiktok or how it works yeah like just oh

yeah yeah so if you want to if you wanted some legitimacy to to throw onto the the reason why people have concerns yep there's some of it here's a hit a stand sure thing hi Linus Luke and Dan I'm a leather worker based in Victoria and I'm buying a screwdriver to use and to develop a holster for it so what are some features you would want to see in a hand sewn high quality holster well it's got to go on a belt, obviously. Now, this is a debate internally right now. I kind of want a button, you know, like a hold-down, you know, like a strong button.

Matthew wants more of like a quick draw. So he imagines like you kind of pop it up from the bottom and then pull it out like that i'm like oh that's pretty cool too that's pretty sweet pretty sweet i my something that i i guess inherited from my grandpa is a is a dual blade folding pocket knife and it has a leather like belt mounted holster thing that goes with it it's very old and i'm not i'm sure someone's gonna be like oh you idiot it's this thing but i don't know how it necessarily works but when you put it in the holster it like clicks in it's all leather there's no plastic can you

bring that in yeah sure okay but it's however it's like form folded or whatever it clicks in and it feels so ridiculously satisfying especially because there's no like notch on the pocket knife okay like i don't see where it would be grabbing necessarily i'm probably just like it might just fit perfectly i think that's like it might just be that because yeah leather man when it fits perfectly it's a thing it just feels like wonderful and it doesn't seem uh i haven't looked at it in a thing. It just feels wonderful. And it doesn't seem... I haven't looked at it in a little bit. I don't think this was a one-off leather holster.

Right. And this would have been made no sooner than the 80s. Got it. It's probably older than that. Okay. Yeah, we'll have to check it out. Yeah. I feel like Dan is too focused on replying to the obscene number of incoming merch messages to be on the ball.

So we might have to say, like, no, no, I can either wait here or, like, you catch it at the end and then you got to give me five seconds. We might just have to say, like, hey, Dan, we're ready. Because I think we both kind of sit here going, like. Well, then you pause for a bit. Yeah. And then I jump in and then you continue talking. You're bad at this. Yeah, okay you continue talking. You're bad at this. Yeah, okay.

All right. You're bad at this. It's so hard to find good talent. All right. Anyway, this one's... Your mom's bad at this. Just kidding. She's great.

Oh, wait. Oh. Bah. Oh. Bah. Bah. My hand's over the bell. Yeah.

Okay. Next up. Luke, I recently found a Fallout 4 mod that adds dialogue tree options using an AI-generated voice overs. Are there any game mechanics you'd like to see an AI applied to, such as NPC dialogue or storylines? That's actually a big one, NPC dialogue. But it's tough, right? Because all my gamer instincts are check if there's new dialogue in this region. Because that means I need to explore this again. Because there's new dialogue in this region because that means i need to explore

this again because there's new events that i need to trigger and if it's the same old dialogue then i then this is not where i'm supposed to be and this would mess that up big time it could okay but not necessarily so let me let me go two different routes with this. One, I think I misspoke. I meant voiceovers. I am more interested in using AI to be able to add voice acting to games that did not have it. But what about the voice acting industry, Luke? Yeah. Maybe eventually it will get better.

There's been some really crazy leaps, especially in music. Have you seen the kanye stuff no i haven't actually some guy i was i was mostly just being adversarial no yeah some some guy sings a song a rap song but he does it like intentionally poorly like not only does it not sound like a rap song it sounds like a poorly spoken sentence and then he uses a i mean some rap songs are full of poorly constructed sentences but do go on it's intentionally not like it doesn't sound like rap yeah and then he feeds it through this thing and it sounds like kanye singing the song is it you that used the term menage a trois because biggie smalls says menage a trois because Biggie Smalls says

Menage a trois Okay, yeah, so speaking of rap songs not always being correct, it's Menage a trois Menage a trois would be mix and three Biggie's good, I like his stuff Can't diss on Biggie

It's about the meter Linus it's called creative intent not when I say it in a sentence but oh boy but what was I going to say yeah so I don't know there's some concern to that I would like to think that the quality level that voice actors

can bring will surpass that and what I'm talking about is filling gaps in like old think that the quality level that voice actors can bring will surpass that and what i'm talking about is filling gaps in like old games that don't have it not in the creation of new games um which i don't i don't think that's a thing i don't know i mean the quality of some voice acting is so bad that i kind of want like i'm like i'm just i can't get final fantasy 10 out of my mind. I literally know the scene you're talking about. Yeah, that's a classic. That's been memed on pretty heavily.

I mean, with that said, I mean, maybe that, maybe that. Was intentional. Yeah, maybe that was, maybe that's what gives it its human quality, you know? Yeah. Yeah. quality you know yeah yeah um and and honestly i i feel like right now i can identify a lot of ai voice stuff pretty easily because i think it has a problem with like emotion and tone and things like that what's up hold on a second uh i'm being corrected on my French here. I thought menage...

Oh, get owned. Oh, no. Menage, maybe? Get owned. Yeah, A-primes. A-primes messaging me. Was Biggie right? No, no.

Oh. Sad. Hold on a second. A-primes was still wrong. Calm down. Day counts. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. This was still wrong. Calm down. Hey, it counts. Hold on. Someone in Floatplane chat said,

I mean, you still need a real voice to make an AI voice. People would probably just sell the rights to their voice for movies and games. Okay. Multiple things to unpack here. One, people already do that. Okay. We need more AI in the One, people already do that. Okay. We need more AI in the world

because this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. Literal translation. That's good. Apparently, it means manage of three clean cleaning not mixing okay so sorry um but yes yes the a is the the and instead of of or whatever so sure sure okay cool yeah okay sorry what was i saying, some people already sell their voice for that type of stuff.

Some people have already sold their voice for AI stuff. People have already sold their likeness for AI stuff that is already happening, that is totally a thing. Also, AIs can make their own voices through a mass mesh of other voices, and you can be against that, you can be for that, but there doesn't seem to be a strong precedent for how we deal with that right now and that is one of the things that policymakers are

kind of lagging behind on because gpt mid-journey stable diffusions all these things that are trained on just massive piles of human creation yeah like as far as anyone is can tell just that just doesn't matter no one seems to care legally they're just like yeah sure you can use whatever so they can create their own voices out of that giant pile they can already do that that is already a thing i think it'll be bad for gameplay i'm not even going to make the argument it's bad for the voice acting industry because you're not going to stop progress so i guess we're gonna see what happens with that. That's it's not my fight. I don't have a horse in this race That's between the voice acting industry and game developers. I would find it extremely difficult to replace. Is it Chris judge? Oh, man, I'm gonna get the name wrong. I'm really bad with names, but the

The guy who does Kratos in the modern god of yours like yeah, I Don't think you're gonna get the same level of quality not today. Yeah, not today But maybe eventually but from a from a gameplay standpoint. I I just I'm not that into it Personally yeah, yeah, Chris. We judge. Yeah. Yeah, he's amazing Been a been a fan of him since Stargate. Anyways. All right. Dan, hit us.

Yeah, yeah. All right. What do you see as an ideal endgame for LTT? I know in the past you talked about the future in regards to your children in the company. This is geared more towards the lasting legacy of LTT and the lab. Well, the ideal endgame is that we never need a manufacturer spec sheet again. Because manufacturer spec sheets are optimistic at best, misleading at moderate, and outright lies at the worst.

So the goal would be for LTT to have some kind of... What's the opposite of debunking? Bunking or debunking, you know, position on pretty much every manufacturer claim. It would be, it would be the no dollar, it would be no dollar wasted anytime you build a PC or buy a piece of electronics. Now there's going to be challenges. This road is, it's a journey, not a destination. Take something like an AV receiver. Sure, we could test the audio quality all day, and we could validate that it works with all these different formats. There's going to be edge cases, there's going to be bugs,

and there's going to be things that you simply can't quantify, like the interface of pretty much every AV receiver that I've ever encountered is needlessly obtuse. I don't think we're gonna be able to fix that ever So that's the goal, but it's one of those like well understandable limitations. Yeah, that's noble, but good luck Yeah, but we're gonna do our best. I want to ask you something about that. Sure. We've talked about this a little bit Oh, but what are your current opinions on this? something about that sure we've talked about this a little bit oh but what are your current opinions on this talking about ai stuff yeah a huge problem in the ai world is the like ouroboros effect of it

destroying all of its data creation yeah um impact on the lab yeah we are basically, I will say right now that this is already making me rethink our previously leaned towards strategy of making all the data just available with no account, no subscription, just on the page. Because if the entire site can simply be scraped and summarized, there will be no reason to come to our website. That doesn't mean that all of a sudden we're going to make the website experience awful by, you know, say,

covering it with intrusive advertising or anything like that. That's not our goal. It wouldn't solve the problem either. But we also simply cannot just be a data mine for chat gpt or bing gpt or whatever you want to call it um so i think that what you might end up with is you might end up with a site that is designed more around the output at least in terms of what's

publicly available. So you might enter, you might say, heck, you could even, we could even use a large language model interface. Can you recommend the best power supply for me for 30 to $45? Here are my considerations. So we present, so we present it as our own. That's an interesting angle. So there's, there's's it's something i'm giving thought to it's something that there are ways for us to work around um for example i mean

one of the features that we've talked about that i'm really excited for the the gaming experience um comparison videos where it will take our archive of videos and it will compile them together for you to consume that is not easily parsable not easily especially if it's uh if it's credential locked um and it's also pretty difficult or or there's not there's not a value to consuming it through the ai if the value is in the seeing the smoothness of the gaming experience and Seeing with your own eyes the comparison you're gonna have to look at the comparison anyway You might as well look at the origin tool

So there's ideas I I Don't know though. I don't know because the reality of it is I Want this data? Mm-hmm. I want this data to benefit consumers of electronics. Whatever I have to do to do that, I'm going to do. And if for this data source to survive, I have to restrict access to it then I will do that because it has to exist so you're more interested in providing the resulting decision helpful information yes then just providing a database yes I don't

care how we do it if it's if it's a web extent or if it's a browser extension like we talked about earlier in the show and then anytime you're looking at a power supply that's like a crap deal it just recommends you something better and then we recommend something else and we take an affiliate cut that's fine that's a way that's not

easily replicated by chat GPT because it's parsing our database on the backend. That's private. Which they don't have any access to. It does the grounding and silo problem naturally. And you know what? Google might build an AI that monitors what products you look at in your browser. Theoretically, they wouldn't because privacy or something.

But they might monitor what you look at in your browser and figure out what you ultimately purchase. And that might guide it But it's going to be going off of secondary data. We're always going to be out ahead of it Interesting so little lag behind so if a price changes It'll keep recommending crap when ours will always be the most up-to-date Interesting so there's ways There's ways we've got ideas.'re not going to take this lying down that's the bottom line yeah because we're still doing the lab it's just yeah just like with every

other realm right now yeah the path forward is unclear because of the impact of these types of systems path's always unclear a lot of people it's just, I think, like even more muddy now is all I'm saying. Path's always unclear. I agree. I'm just used to it at this point. So this doesn't even really phase me. Do you remember how I freaked out when Vessel went under? Yeah.

I'm sitting here, existential crisis. Do you remember how I freaked out when YouTube revised their in-video sponsorship policies? Existential crisis. Do you remember how I freaked out when the president of NCIX decided maybe he wouldn't sell the channel to us? Existential crisis. My entire f***ing last 10 years of my life

has been one existential crisis after another. You know what? I'm still f***ing here, aren't I? We all are. That's right. Yeah. So on the one hand, you know,

maybe it, maybe it could turn into hubris. Maybe it could morph into arrogance, but I think I'm realistic enough that I'm not going to allow that to happen. And instead what it's got to turn into is being calm, collected, understanding that there is a way. There's always a way.

What movie or TV show is it? Fry in Futurama. Okay, they're stuck in like a video game or something like that. And he's like, no, they always build in ways to beat these games. Well, that's life. So figure it out, beat the game, right?

And we've got a world-class team. I've said it a thousand times We're gonna do it So let's do it Cool hell yeah Alright on that same sort of vein do any of your early experience. Sorry. I'm gonna I'm gonna interject I hope other Dan not this Dan, but I hope other Right. Hold on. Hold on. We do need to come back to this for a second. He says, you're thinking mélange.

So that would be mix. Ménage is a household. Household of three. Okay. So it's actually more describing like a thruple than a sexual act. So he says, Biggie would be saying the household and you. Whatever. Whatever. Yeah.

That kind of makes sense. No, it's a household of three. Not, yeah. So it's not, it's definitely, he's not right. But I had the meaning of, I thought it was a mix of three. But it's actually household of three. Okay, we can carry on. Sounds good.

Okay. Do any of your early experiences at NCIX inform your sourcing strategies? Are there any lessons learned that you carry forward with Creator Warehouse and all of the fabulous merch? I mean, NCIX didn't build its own. Well, actually, it had some of its own products. They sucked. I learned a lot from that.

I learned a lot of what not to do from NCIX. I learned a lot of what to do, but I'm actually not involved in a lot of the day-to-day sourcing and ordering and determining quantities, negotiating pricing. I do almost none of it. I advise, but the team over there handles the vast majority of that. The biggest thing that I learned at NCIX, and mostly from shopping there, not as much from working there, is that it's all about trust. At the end of the day, it's all about trust. You can market all day, buy Google ads, you can hire a team of salespeople to push your product, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if

you want to build a sustainable business, you just have to make a good product, stand behind it, and people will come and with the way that ltt store is growing q1 we're almost up uh double year over year over last uh q1 like last year's q1 that's not an accident that's not because we're suddenly spending a million dollars a month on advertising or whatever that's because we make a good product and people keep coming back for it i mean you guys know look at this this, right? I don't make the rules. That's just how it works. Okay, next up, first time sending a merch message.

What was the most surprising feature you've ever seen on a new graphics card? GameStream. By the time frame generation landed I was like Yeah we were headed this way Whereas like gamestream blew my mind I just didn't think of using hardware video

Encoding decoding like that That was really crazy I mean oh man I had in the doc today I wanted to talk about using the ROG ally For gamestream It's not technically gamestream I guess Because that's Nvidia's trademark And I'm running an AMD graphics card, but

you tried it. I was playing Doom Eternal at ultra details, 1080p, on a handheld, 120 frames per second. This is 120 hertz display. I was going to say, you were capped too, weren't you? Nearly silent,

okay? Barely perceptible latency. This is not something I expected to see in my lifetime. Yeah. Right? I mean, if you asked me a year ago, yeah, obviously. Yeah, it's not fair, though. Before the tech existed, it's not something you expected. No. It looked

incredible. It felt great. And it brought me back into gaming, too, when I had my N nvidia shield and i had my son and i couldn't sit at my computer anymore because i was busy holding a baby all the time it was colicky right so yeah it blew my mind how about you on a graphics card i know this is probably going to be annoying but probably the same thing i tried to think uh like it's got to be like that phys x but i was like no i mean it's too bad it didn't turn out but it could have been right but we saw it coming because what was the exact question it was something like most

surprising what was that game though that one game we can rip the banners and stuff yeah a Gia promoted and and it was like physical interactions with the environment were going to be this... That blew me away. Okay, it blew... But it wasn't a graphics card feature yet. Well, yeah. Because it was that dedicated card. And even assuming it was, because you're right, but even assuming it was, I think you could say that wasn't super...

Maybe it was surprising when it happened. I didn't expect it to happen yet But like we all knew Games are going in a direction of this type of stuff happening eventually So like what was the thing that like I'm interpreting surprised as like caught me off guard Surprised me that it was happening at all I mean, maybe you just weren't thinking about this kind of thing yet But you could look at something like CUDA as a big surprise. I definitely wasn't thinking about that at the time. Yeah.

I mean, the idea that you could encode video on your GPU at all. Oh, super sick now. Yeah, I just didn't really care much about that. Yeah, I don't know. SLI, not surprising. No. Okay.

Well, we can move on. Yeah. Has Linus ever been to a Michelin star restaurant? If so, where? And he can't wait for his LDT bottle. If so, I can't remember. It's not the kind of thing that I would pay attention to because things that are cool because someone said they're cool is not interesting to me.

Yeah. Where were we in Japan? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know where that was. They probably deserved a Michelin star, I guess. That place was amazing. Yeah. I don't remember where it was, though.

Everything that I wanted to eat was delicious And then there was lots of stuff that I was super not down with like the chicken sashimi and all that yeah Yeah, we tried it we both tried it. It wasn't worth it Don't do it, and then I probably offended everyone there Yeah, boiling it and I was like wow good idea, and I cooked the rest of my chicken, too We just like cooked it in our boiling soup yeah we're basically monsters we're horrible yeah all right i recently picked up the pajama pants and absolutely love them so far thanks out of curiosity what's the rationale behind using a mesh material

for the pockets instead of the same as the rest of them? I'm so glad you asked. We agonize over every stupid little detail and then we never talk about it. The reason is that the self material, that's what the main material is called, self, S-E-L-F. The self material is too stretchy. And so when you would put something heavy like a phone in the pocket with the self material and then walk, it would like be all over the place so we went with the mesh because it's got a little bit more structure

and it makes it kind of hold stuff a bit better okay next up hi dan luke and linus what is something you do when you're physically exhausted and emotionally or mentally fatigued in order to recover i sleep i find those things to be extremely different scenarios personally i feel very differently when i'm mentally or physically exhausted yeah 100 oh sure well physically i have a bath soak the muscles and then mentally i sleep or you know what i watch reruns like adventure time reruns just to completely turn off my brain. How about you? If I'm mentally exhausted, usually what I like to do is.

I get our channels deleted and I take it on. Yeah. I keep powering through. Hell yeah. Actually, that kind of stuff is energy returning for me. A mission. Yeah. If there's nothing like that currently available.

It's kind of a missionary, you know? Wow. Yeah, there you go. If there's nothing like that currently available, I always find go-tos for me if I just need to chill my brain out and relax, which usually isn't because of exhaustion. It's usually because

of um i'm currently feeling like very angry or very sad i would say i'll usually dive into either assassin's creed or civilization and just play single player and just cruise around have no direct mission just let my mind kind of wander and sit there you really would enjoy breath of the wild you really do need to play it. Yeah, I should probably start it again at some point if I'm physically exhausted Sleep yeah Really is what you should do stay hydrated. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay t store.com Next up is from Mitchell. I've heard Linus comment on walkable cities in North America not being possible without bulldozing over current places. Could you possibly go into more detail about that topic? had a chance to watch yet so i am not going to respond to it but what i will say is that a lot of my stance was not that it should be impossible but rather that with the mentality that a lot

of people here in north america have i don't think it will ever happen it is possible to turn previously car-centric cities into more walkable cities. Take a really long time. But it only works for certain parts without an enormous investment in infrastructure that, if I'm being honest, I just don't see ever coming back to North America. Like, whether we're talking about the U.S. or Canada,

and I don't know enough about Mexico so my apologies but at least America and its hat um you look at the kind of infrastructure projects that not just happened but were commonplace in the 60s 70s and 80s we ain't doing that stuff anymore it's not happening. What rapid transit? Who's building it? And yeah, there's some stuff going on in Vancouver right now. But you look at how long it's taken to get to the state that it's at. I'm pretty sure we've been talking about that like literally my whole life.

The Expo Line was built in 1986. I know that because it was built for the 1986 World Fair or Expo Expo Fair yeah and that's the year that I was born yeah and it's gone from Expo line to Expo line and Millennium line which you can probably guess when that was built that took 14 years and managed to cover with actual proper trains. Like, what? 3% of the greater Vancouver area? Like, let's say 6%, assuming you can walk like 20 minutes, okay, around any one of those stations.

Then we got what? That one other line, and now they're finally adding another one. Commuting from where to where? Like like the actual percentage of people that it addresses is pretty low. With that said, everyone who's not driving a car helps reduce congestion for all the other people who need to drive cars. But that doesn't change that the way that this region is laid out and the way that they continue to develop our rapid transit is never going to change many people's reliance on cars so if that's the case i just don't see that i don't see the path forward and it's not because there's a technical reason

it's because there's a people reason that's what I had sort of meant to say last time, and I don't really think I got across very well. So I'm just, I'm being kind of defeatist about it. And that sucks, and I shouldn't, but I just sort of give up. Yeah. Hey, cool, Zachary F. Glad to hear it. We apparently delighted a customer. I don't want to know what the care team did.

I won't ask. Fun. They went above and beyond. Did they go below and beyond? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Why don't you have to darken, buddy?

I can't control any of that. Speaking of below, second undie purchase here. Need some for wifey. Luke, Linus, and Dan, what is your SO biggest tech faux pas or taboo mine is my wife neglecting to change regularly and repeatedly asking for passwords charge regularly but yes good try oh sorry um you know what yvonne's actually pretty good she

she's one of those remarkable people that can take a genuine interest in other people. It's not like, oh, yeah, tell me about work. What tech thing are you working on right now? And it's like in one ear and out the other. She actually has absorbed a shocking amount. She cannot for the life of her handle a receiver-based AV system, though. As soon as you throw more than

one remote at her she's like this is too much work I will watch on my phone. Oh no she also is allergic to landscape mode. She will actually watch movies in a little window like this rather than turn her phone and

she's better about it now but for the longest time I'd be like i'd walk up to her sitting on the couch watching a movie like like like a movie like i'm not talking some three minute youtube video or something a movie i would grab her phone enable auto rotate turn it and put it back in her hands and walk away i just i, I can't. I can't handle that. Yeah, I, my, passwords, passwords, passwords. A legitimately significant portion of my literal job. She won't use a password manager.

She insists on just memorizing everything, but then she doesn't have to retype something in for a really extended period of time. And forgets, of course. And forgets it. Of course. And then has to switch devices, and she's she's like well i literally can't use this because i don't know the passwords for my logins and i'm like interesting that we have this problem but then she figures it out because you can like do account recovery and whatever else

yeah but that's and it's like not the right way to do that. And then she gets a win on me because LastPass has this big breach. Right, yeah. And we're using LastPass. So she's going like... Nice honeypot, bro. Ha, there. All of your passwords are now in questionable condition.

You might call it a honeypot because you're her honey. That's pretty good. Yeah. So then we have to go through this. I wish I hadn't said it first before getting the right dad joke. I'm not even pushing the bell.

And then we have this huge, very laborious transition to a new password manager. And she's still pointing her finger going like, look at that. And I'm like, okay, yeah, fair. But it's still not right. You should still use one. And she's like, nope. Okay. She's still wrong. Yeah. I can one and she's like nope oh okay she's still wrong yeah i can tell her for you too if you want yeah she'll she'll probably catch this yeah okay cool hi wife

the birds find it very calming to just like hear me talking for long periods of time so we'll just like run wancho when we're not at home if you if you come over they will probably recognize you that's very funny i didn't think about that until now oh it's it's it's wancho line it's now it's time for sleep that's pretty funny okay let's do uh let another one. You want to do another one? All right. Since you're discussing the LTT screwdriver, did you see ElectroBoom gave his away in Cuba in his recent video?

I didn't see that, but he told me in person. We have a collab with Medi coming very soon that I'm really excited about. We test wireless ESD bracelets bracelets which are a thing that exists okay and he brought out he brought out a understanding dang it what's the one called where it has the ball at the top and the the staticky thing that's not a Jacob's Ladder has a cool Vandegraaff Generator. Yeah, he brought one of those. He brought this terrifying...

I was thinking Red Alert, too. This terrifying ESD wand. And we do some... Well, we do what he does best. We hurt each other. So you guys are definitely going to enjoy it. So good. Hey, DLL, I'm a data analyst.

Oh, it's on Floatplane. Oh, no. Is it? Apparently. Already? Everyone on Floatplane is saying, yeah, it's already out. It's on Floatplane.

Well, do you guys like it? They seem to. They all seem very happy about it. Oh, there it is, yeah. I guess people are just going to have to subscribe to Floatplane. I mean, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Let's show off the beta site

Beta dot floatplane calm just gonna open this in a new tab Let's have a look. Oh wow. There's actually two early access videos right now. This is the the weekends YouTube videos This ended up being half an hour long I Shouldn't be that surprised Float playing gang says it was good. Yeah, all right. I mean, not biased at all, because it's not like they're, you know, the most dedicated of our followers or anything like that.

Jaden's all upset because he's, like, totally revamped the live chat, but it's not out yet. So it's not out even on beta yet. So he's like, oh, it looks so old. Yeah, but it's got colors on people's names now. That's cool. Yeah, but there's like more updates. I know, but still.

Oh, yeah, and the Flipper Zero video is coming too. Legal. Nice. It's pointing at me. Ah, license to carry. All right. Hey, DLL. I'm a data analyst. Out of curiosity does lmg use any sort of data

visualization software power by tableau are this would be especially interesting with labs coming uh this is something we've explored in the past with labs it's it's uh more likely i don't know if they're using any of it right now um but no at least uh i mean maybe the labs is but outside of that no okay i'm not sure if it works hey luke and linus love the show question about ltx office slash labs visits will there be a place where people can wait in between the two different tours? Availability made mine one hour apart. I mean, it's free country. You could sit on the side of the road.

Go for a nap. Go get lunch. Yeah, get some food. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a company and have to make very difficult decisions a lot. Linus, any tips on how to handle stress, ensuring you make the best decision that make customers happy? Thanks for all the content.

Do the best you can with the time and information you have. You're going to get it wrong a lot. Take feedback. Apologize. Don't just apologize. Do better next time. And rinse and repeat. Don't get decision paralysis.

Yeah, do something. Even if you make mistakes, you have to move forward. Yeah, yeah. Like, man, I used to say that all the time. It was like, what did I used to say? Do you say a lot of stuff? I don't know. Oh, man.

I think it was like. If you lead me there, I might find it. Like 80% execution of a 20% plan is better than 20% execution of an 80% plan And it was kind of like this weird riff on the 80-20 rule or was it like a hundred percent execution of like a 10% plan Yeah, I don't I don't remember the percentage breaks. I think it very long. You got to do stuff, but like This guy would sit around and plan things I'd be like that's nice around and plan things I'd be like that's nice but we can't we can't sell a plan and you know what there have been times then we should have done more

planning however if you can only do one yeah I go with one plus had a had a way better more succinct version of that hanging in there in their headquarters or their manufacturing or whatever it was when I was there and It was shipped is better than perfect It's like yeah, you could spend all day Polishing it there's there's startup companies that died because of that They just they just keep planning yeah and planning and planning and and sometimes the plan has to change you got a pivot So they just keep planning plan then pivot then plan then pivot then plan

then pivot ship something ship something ship something that's you just got to ship something iterate don't okay someone uh comments don't sleep on data analytics the lab is probably gonna blah blah we're not we're we're in a situation right now where we've we've mentioned a bunch of times during this show that we do so many different varied difficult things yeah all of those things like demand team expansion and you gotta pick your battles sometimes like there there is an insane range and amount of different people with different specializations that we could bring on that could improve the things that we do if we attempted to do all that at once we would just die immediately like it's yeah we're not sleeping on it we'll do stuff just you have to do stuff at reasonable times with reasonable team expansion and all these other types of things. There's a lot that goes into it. We're not just like ignoring stuff.

Yeah, that's all. Next up. Hello Linus, Luke and Dan. Linus, in some streams you've partaken in some floor time. Do you ever end up just working from the floor? Meetings, calls, etc? I'm really hoping this isn't just me. I saw you on the stairs the other day.

I don't know what was going on with that meetings sometimes I just I need to I need some sensory deprivation so that I can think shutter certain systems down yeah just close my eyes lie down think not calls I'm almost never on a call that like i pace on calls yeah yeah i'm into the pacing um yeah nothing else to really add yeah floor time is real though they take pictures of me because they think it's funny i don't pose for floor time pictures because i think it's funny right next up hey ltd one day i'd be super curious to see luke's reaction to the recent adam conover ai video he asserts that ai is basically scam technology all hype and fraud a la tesla's self-driving cars uh i mean i think it's pretty provable that's that's not true in like a lot of ways um yeah that's like a really bad take yeah i haven't watched it but i don't know i had

a buddy working on a school assignment recently um and he was like complaining about how the school assignment was like hard or vague or whatever and i was like have you asked chat GPT? And he's like, well, no. I was like, okay, well, give me the question. And he handed it to me. I plunked it into chat GPT. It pushed out like this insanely long, very detailed response. I gave that to him and he's like, yeah, I have to like fit it into a table. This is like kind of too long.

So I guess it didn't really work. I was like,'s not true i go over to chat gpt can you make this shorter i don't remember how short it needed to be and it just went made it way shorter i handed it back to him and he's like yeah okay that's pretty good this is a university course does let me chat gpt that for you already exist i think we yeah i think we figured figured this out. Yeah, like it's Yeah, it's just a bad or uninformed take I don't know very strange um Hold on. Hmm. Is there the the WAN?

Took beanie did we ever release that I? Don't apparently I was modeling it in my waffle long sleeve photos and someone's like hey where is that and i don't see it on the site uh okay remember that being a thing i don't know um dan do you mind firing a quick message over to nick to ask where that is if that like exists okay anywho uh thanks brady good good call maybe we have like a warehouse full of when beanies that we haven't sold because it's not available on the site. I don't know. Very strange.

I think just to jump on the Adam Conner thing, I haven't watched the video, but if he says it's a scam thing because of how it uses other people's data to create its product without compensating them or anything like that. Yeah, sure. Someone's getting scammed.

That's fair. That's, yeah. But if it's like it's an ineffective technology, that's just like extremely provably not true. There are AI lawyers that have won cases already. Like, what are you talking about? I don't know. Whatever.

Okay. Next up is from David. Happy Easter. As Creator Warehouse becomes more of a lifestyle brand will the ltd branding be on everything it sells or will it stick to more tech nerd products while creator warehouse becomes its own brand we don't know the answer to that creator warehouse's future is supposed to be product development and fulfillment for a variety of entities, whether they're creators or other brands or whatever else.

I think we've already talked about how we are potentially doing a drop for the NAS company I'm invested in, potentially working on doing something collaboratively with Noctua, which would be super cool. So there's no reason Creator Ware warehouse couldn't work with partners um and they would obviously want to have their own branding on their own products right but for lttstore.com i think ltt is our is our brand for better or for worse i don't know maybe we change it at some point but it wouldn't be creator warehouse it wouldn't change to creator warehouse it would be like that's that's the name of our company that works in the background on stuff.

It's not like a public branding. Yeah, LTT, I don't know, something. We might do labs branded stuff. I don't know. It's a good question. LTT is just. LTT, as far as the store is concerned, is just a logo. It's got a lot of momentum. Yeah, that too

It's also like the logos are really small these days like the logo on the on the windbreaker jacket He's like I can even find it at first Like they're not they're not heavily branded. So when it when it gets to that it's like on your pocket or something Yeah, yeah there, but It's like on your pocket or something. Yeah. Yeah there, but it's like really small. It's a little dark. It's reflective which is cool, but it's like... Yeah, you can't even see it, it's so small. Oh, yeah, there it is.

Okay, I have a high sensitivity to that phrase. Oh fuck! I thought it didn't matter to you, Linus. Pick one. I thought you were like actually upset about something. I was like, what did I do? I don't know. I have a response here from Nick about your beanie. Oh. Apparently

it was never made into production. Oh. You can follow up with Sarah. Exclusive products. Did I kibosh it? I wonder if I did. I might have. You have ruined another product. Cool. Hello, LL and D.

Thanks for the hoodie. Full-on gaming channel when? I think our goal is to launch GameLinked this quarter. It's on someone's KPIs. I don't know. Cool. I might need to finish the logo for that then. We'll talk about that next week.

Wait, why are you doing a logo? Yeah, I know. It's a whole thing. It's great. No, it's not great. That's very random, Dan. I shelved it. It's fine. Also, you need to approve the logo for Labs. What? I still don't have a logo for Labs.

No one showed it to me. Okay, well, Sarah has one, and it's pending your approval. Okay, well then she should show it to me. Okay. I don't know. I mean, she barged into my office yesterday to have me approve a plushy whale with a gold chain around its neck So she knows where I live schedule a message to you to who what? Sarah okay get her to follow up with Linus about approving labs

I was supposed to tell you about this on Thursday, I think, and I forgot. Labs Branding? So it's your fault. No. We'll do that for Tuesday. Yeah, because we have Monday off, right? Yes, Tuesday. Oh, nice. Long weekend, baby.

Okay. Okay. Just out of pure curiosity, which of the add-on screwdriver bitpacks is the most popular oh uh i can check that for you give me one second i'm just responding to this is a great question i'm responding to it in text just because we have way too many merch messages to respond to them all you know what screw it we'll do it now uh linus and luke i'm a law student studying AI and how it interacts with the law. What do you believe is the best resource for me to educate 60 year old judges on how to understand this black box? The clip of me and Luke being blown away by chat GPT's capabilities the first time we looked at it. If that doesn't open their eyes, nothing can.

That is such a just because it's not sleek. It's not anyone's promotional materials. It's just holy shit. This is here. It's here now. It's doing this now. If they don't understand it, then they should probably retire. Honestly. And that's not like ageism or anything like that. Now if they don't understand it Then they should probably retire Honestly

And that's not like ageism Or anything like that if they were young And they didn't understand it and they're working In the legal system career change they should probably Retire Let me get that answer for you on which is The most popular bit pack Now this is going to be a little bit skewed

Because some of them have been sold out for Some time because life is hard. I just don't know what to tell you. Man, there's no last 365 days. I don't know. 2022.

When did we launch the screwdriver? You know what? Screw it. Oh, this will... Oh, my God. Now I have to reenter this. I love Shopify. I actually really do, but they're not perfect. Nobody's perfect. I think they're a very good partner, to be honest.

Yes. They've been very good to work with. Yes. There's some things that, like, them announcing something and then it coming out, like, two years later can be kind of annoying. But we've had the same problems. So at least Wancho gets a dark mode. Screw you.

Torques, then metric hex, then the specialty bits, followed by imperial Hex followed by people loading up on Standard and Philips. We never said that was coming. Well, we said it was coming, but not soon. That's all we've ever said. It's still not soon. There you go. I feel like there's some that are missing here. Oh, well. Oh, yeah. Here's some more.

Now I have to remember the variants and how many they sold. Okay. Okay. No, this is a duplicate list. Okay. I don't even know what I'm looking at. Just got badanned. Yeah. It doesn't matter. The point is that's, that's pretty much it. Cool. Um, when do we get the Luke talks AI hour? Maybe it's own show, new channel. Luke, you're not very busy right i do think it's been kind of surprising that our coverage of this has only really been a little bit on tech linked and then when there's channels that i think would cover this type of stuff less often that have done

sometimes multiple mainline videos about it that surprises me a little bit but like i don't know it also moves like so fast that unless someone's doing like a daily upload channel only dedicated to just that that if you if you really want to follow it you need to kind of follow it in other ways so i don't know i don't know follow it you need to kind of follow it in other ways so i don't know i don't know yeah hello llnd can we get the story about the hard drives that got carried in a shopping cart through a parking lot maybe even a technical explanation of the damage thanks oh that was like um that's not that's not our story that's uh i forget who it was but they were like migrating their data center and not wasn't on a shopping cart but it was, but they were migrating their data center.

It wasn't on a shopping cart, but it was on an AV cart that had hard wheels. And apparently after they rolled them across the parking lot, because that's how they moved them, because that's how far they were going. They were moving to that building over there. The failure rate was astronomical or something like that. And they determined that it was because they used hard-wheeled carts than soft wheeled carts and that much vibration was very damaging to the extremely sensitive hard drives because they are phenomenally precision manufactured pieces of marvelous technology like hard drives yeah they're like old and crappy or whatever but they're still pretty cool l and, you have a ton of employees

from many different backgrounds that work at LMG. Have you ever collected employee family or favorite recipes and turned it into an LMG company cookbook? Nope. That has never happened. How the devil did that get curated? I thought it was funny. Hi, Luke, Linus, and

Dan. I'm recovering some all-nighters spent at work to make a deadline that was shifted last minute. What's the most egregious deadline change you've faced at work? Well, we went from you have to keep our channel up forever, which is fine because it is, to you have to get it back up because it's gone

You know with the hack recently so there was no deadline and then suddenly we had one What's a deadline shift I mean, I don't know we probably should have more strict deadlines We've had that deadline for migrating to hockey prayer Deadlines we've had that deadline for migrating to hockey prayer Was it shifted I don't know if it was shifted it wasn't shifted Yeah, I don't know deadline shit a lot of deadlines shifts don't happen a lot of deadlines that are like practically impossible Have yeah like remember when vessel went under and we had a week to build like a working minimum viable product of float plane like That weekend yeah exactly, but that was that's not a shifted deadline though That's a deaf line that didn't exactly know I'm saying I was yeah. Yeah, I was agreeing with you

Yeah, I don't think that was agreeing with you. Yeah, why do you keep? I don't yeah, I don't think they shift too often. They're just Pretty hard to meet sometimes but like I don't know or in a fast-moving workspace it's going to be like that i'm not complaining about it just yeah but yeah i don't think they shift that often i think it's happened um like an example that i could give but i don't think this like matters and i think it was the right absolutely the right call um was related to the hack with the video the video was originally going to be like saturday's video and then we were like nope it's today's in the middle of writing it but like yeah that was the right call if we were going to get the channel back that absolutely should have been the first upload yeah it had to

be yeah so like i don't know couldn't just be some random video and then like three days later it's about we finally address it yeah like it should have been it should've been right then so Usually with the deadline shifts it's like I am in full agreeance, so I don't know Is it possible that we get more accent colors for the screwdriver, or do we have to go DIY if we want to have one? in the future Should I leak it? How far out? LTX?

Then yeah, in my opinion. If you come to LTX, we are going to have all six colors of the rainbow available in selector rings, handles, beauty rings, and end caps. You will be able, in the screwdriver booth, to build your own driver. That's so cool! I didn't know about this.

That is so sick. How are you going to swap those things out? You can't swap those things out. In whatever color you like. So you build it. That's how you end up getting it custom. You get to press fit it together it. That's how you end up getting it custom. You get to press fit it together yourself.

That is so sick! One of my favorite things about LTX has always been the hands-on booths. Because that's something that PAX used to be totally all about. And then it super died and now PAX is like kind of boring. And that is so cool. Kyle is very upset. Sorry Kyle. Why do you do this to me? What do you mean?

Please apologize to Kyle. Sorry Kyle. See this is maybe one of those timelines that we were just talking about it hasn't shifted It's still LTX. It might be really hard to get ready for I don't know now. He has to do it. Yeah Now there is a deadline. Yeah, it was probably already a deadline. Yeah, he's got this It's just really hard some of the the colors are not matching each other perfectly because we're using a red that Mega Pro already had on hand. Sure. And we're using some other color that we were experimenting with for something else, and we have some dye.

You know, like it's not... It's kind of a sh** mix. But it's custom built. But you put it together. You will build it yourself. So sick. It will cost more. I have to pay Kyleyle and tyden and

the rest of the team over there i don't know who is or isn't on probation but i i have to pay them we have to do these like stupid super small runs of like these different colored plastics how many are you prepping i will say this the quality of the driver may not be 100 to the standard of what we would make a hundred thousand of or whatever because different colors can shrink ever so slightly differently probably it will be fine we'll be using the same plastics we'll be using same types of dyes it will probably be fine understand this is kind of a one-off thing but understand this is a wacky thing that we're doing so that totally worth doing you can have super cool a personalized one-of-a-kind driver in the color of your choice

um there's certain things that will be all the same color the bit holders inside i believe we're aiming for white uh we didn't want black because our bits are black and the contrast the low contrast would be really awful but um if we have a ton of leftovers it is possible that we will just mash them all together randomly and make like a mystery screwdriver and you can order a mystery screwdriver or something like that but if you want to hand pick the colors you will you must be at ltx k Kyle's saying it'll be fine. We tested it. Okay. Well, I mean,

okay. One thing we haven't tested Kyle, I don't think is that normally when we assemble the drivers, we assemble them warm so that they shrink, um, for the, for the press fit. These,

we obviously won't be doing that unless you guys are going to have them like preheated and like, uh, not hot, but like warm oven or something so i don't know there's still some questions that we have to answer if you're watching on floatplane if you watch on the beta site there's uh it's it's it's lower latency so you should do that so you can answer better just so you know beta.fullplane.com it's like way better

hi linus and luck will there be an autograph will there be an autograph signing session during ltx expo i hate calling it an autograph but i will sign anything you put in front of my face i think what they're asking about is like are you going to dedicate time to like stand in a spot behind a table and sign stuff oh i don't know that hadn't really occurred to me i want to participate yeah um how do i put this ltx is about me too i want to have fun i want to have fun no i agree i want to do stuff i'm excited for whale land yeah right like last whale land was so sick and the fact that it's going like overnight again is so cool because so many of these different like PAX doesn't go overnight for their land, right? Yeah. It's just lame. Come on. Yeah.

Yeah. How do y'all feel about the availability of DIY military tech thanks to Chinese suppliers or 3D printers LML, LLMs. I don't know what that is. What's an LLM? Large language model. Oh. Yeah, the thing we've been talking about all night.

I thought it was like a manufacturing thing. Context. High refresh rate plus resolution thermal cameras banned by ITAR are cheap on AliExpress, for example. I don't know, dude. Yeah. The future is like actually freaking terrifying. Yeah. Because like for a long time, there was the whole we own the

night thing with the american military and now you can buy thermal cameras on aliexpress and that's just yeah running out to the woods and hiding not being an applicable option is like not the most comfortable thing yeah stick it on your robot dog that you can buy off the... Stop talking. Great show as always. Any update on the acoustic panels? Linus talked about in a tour video a while back. The acoustic panels.

Yeah. The update is that we're having a really hard time getting the frames perfect. the frames perfect. We set a goal for ourselves very early on that we wanted them to have an extremely high reground plastic content because we weren't that comfortable with just like manufacturing giant plastic things that are just going to end up in a landfill someday.

So we wanted to have a high percentage of regrind. That's been really hard. So if we were if we had just said, forget it, we're just gonna either extrude or shoot all brand new plastic, we could probably have released it already. Actually, I shouldn't even say that because the covers have been a challenge to the fabric covers. We want something that is man, we have a lot of design goals for the covers. We want them to be acoustically transparent. We want them to be easily removable and washable. We want them to be print-on-able

so that someday, a thousand years in the future, maybe you could have a custom graphic printed on it straight from LTT Store. What else? We want them to not be wrinkly. Yeah, there were just a lot of goals and it's kind of unreasonable and so we're going to do our best um

have you been able to give any advice to hacksacksmith James to manage burnout and the pressures of growing a YouTube channel while supporting a growing staff and requiring more space and equipment? I mean, the thing with James is he's, you know, he's a big boy. And he's, how to, not, he's resilient, right? Like, he's doing what works for him. He was actually in a video recently, the one on the John Wick bulletproof suit that did like 12 million views. So I was kind of looking at going like, dang, okay, he's back. He seems to be kind of hitting his stride in terms of the content a little bit. I'm pretty sure they did like a pretty good sponsorship deal for that. They had to, like Hacksmith.

Let me tell you, you want to sponsor Hacksmith. It ain't cheap. They do a great job over there, but you got to pay to play, right? I mean, we've talked, but like, I wouldn't see my role in that interaction as being like, as a mentor or anything like that. Like we're mutually supportive. I mean, I've had my own challenges too, right? Okay. Have you ever had a computer issue that annoyed you for months or years before you fixed it?

Ooh. Okay. I have an issue on my work desktop right now that is ticking me off. I can't use PIN in or windows hello i have to type my password it's like bugged weird yeah it's like i think you showed me this you you click the thing and it just like doesn't yeah actually do anything okay and then oh right i had that issue that anthony made a video about when i was on vacation where um my machine would just like

randomly reboot when it was idle, and it turns out it's like a Threadripper power management bug that AMD just hasn't been arsed to fix. I had that for probably months. This pin one is relatively new, but I will probably deal with it for months because the reality of it is that it takes me about four seconds to type in my password.

So I type in my password, what, maybe zero to five times a day. So this costs me maybe like three minutes a month or, you know, whatever that works out to. So if it takes me any longer than five minutes to resolve, it's basically not worth it. So it's like, it's tough, right? I could ask someone else to do it. I could get Dan to do it, but he has other things to do that are also more important

So I don't know. I don't know if this counts, but I have a lot of issues with a wide variance of different services logging me out Happened with you at the dock today Just all these services logging me out all the time for no reason sometimes after logging to the same thing Our current password manager. I know what it's set to I know it yeah sometimes I have to log into it like six times a day like this makes no sense yeah it's why I don't know it seems to be a universally, like, kind of not reliable thing. I don't know. Hi, DLL. Any chance of an LTT store water-cooled chair?

I know it wouldn't be cheap, but definitely worth it for us hot boys. No. We just, we don't know enough about the product category. We don't have experience dealing with extremely large items that's a big one yeah getting an ergonomic product that affects has the potential to affect people's health right really challenging um do you think you would ever partner with another chair manufacturer why would they if they wanted to do the work why don't they just do it themselves yeah like we didn't patent anything so like yeah i don't know what if they're just not capable yeah i mean that so if no one's doing it then what i'm assuming is

that no one there's a reason is doing it yeah yeah i have run out of curated messages oh okay uh well then instead of replying to them in text, are you replying to text ones too, Luke? Yeah. Okay, nice. Just chipping away at this. I don't know what it is, but I think the after dark thing

puts people in merge message mode even harder than... Are we just cruising? Is that what's going on? Other things we do? Yeah, because... Oh, wow, we're cruising. We're definitely... Yeah, I'm pretty sure Linus and I have both been trying to chew on the incomings because

We- I'm glad you- I'm glad you guys understand what it's like now. I did it before you did! Okay, fine. Here's one on- haha. I will continue to reply to merch messages, and I will curate ones for Luke. Oh, excellent. And I will read them to Luke. That's a new one. Everybody has a job. The problem with this is a ton of them are going to be like hey linus um but we'll see hi linus and slick any thoughts on making content for floatplane development i tried to answer this one a text yeah that happens to me

with linus sorry keep going keep going uh interested in behind the scenes content for day-to-day work and challenges faced being one of few companies to handle streaming we could do stuff um i don't think all that many people would actually find it all that interesting i i do think that um i don't want to have my devs who have insanely too much work to do um spending time working on writing a blog um i do think that it would be extremely inconsistent because we'd have like uh way too much stuff to talk about because you know we just launched the beta site and then we're gonna have like a huge Pilot on no Unlimited time you do the my one of my biggest problems is that you don't

If you if you had unlimited time that would be amazing I need to clone Jaden like a bunch of times Yeah, like there would be huge drots where we're not going to have anything to talk to you about and then there's like oh we're like releasing a bunch of stuff all at once there's tons of things um but like the actual development of them is probably not going to be very interesting to you like isn't it um oh man michael Reeves. Really cool videos. Fantastic dude. He constantly talks about, like, hey, I engineered this thing.

Here's all the really interesting, like, physical and mechanical stuff that I did that you're all going to want to see. And here's the code. And then he'll just scroll through all of it in, like, a one and a half second clip where it just, like, hyper scrolls down the whole thing. And he's like, cool, because no one cares about that and it's like yeah some people in this audience will because you're also developers whatever but like the vast majority of people won't so it's this cost benefit thing of like okay i have to take these developers that have a task list that's like genuinely multiple years long and before people yell at me no that is not how we handle our backlog relax there's just a lot of things that no that is not how we handle our backlog relax

there's just a lot of things that we could do and then we have our backlog it's the shorter amount before it it's okay just it's okay um but like yeah x amount of you will care a lot is it worth spending a bunch of time that we could spend developing doing that no i don't really think so also it's gonna be really inconsistent um like someone asked internally recently like why don't we just have a channel um like under under like the the we we can make sub channels now right so why don't we have a sub channel that's full plane development it's like well okay so we're gonna add shorts we're gonna add all the social posts we're gonna add this we're gonna have game linked soon we're gonna have the the labs video channels potentially we're gonna have all this it's going to have game linked soon we're going to have the the labs video channels potentially we're going to have all this it's going to be 14 scrolls long worth

of sub channels that the line of six tips channel has and on there there's going to be float plane development and we're going to upload to it like once in a blue moon i i don't know we talked about on a wan show hopefully that's interesting i'm replying to messages right now but i'm not seeing any come up here is it possible it's bugged? No, let me check the queue. Yeah, five seconds and there'll be another one. Oh, okay. It spreads it out depending on how many there are in the queue. Oh, hilarious.

You should see another one right now. Someone also said, how about we do blog posts in lieu of stand-ups? Like, that's actually... Or Jaden said that, sorry. And I don't mean to throw Jaden under the bus. That's actually just a really bad idea. My reasoning for that is multifold. One, I don't necessarily want all of the developers

just now suddenly doing public communication. Also, look at anything that shares its development path super transparently, and it just immediately becomes a gigantic horrible nightmare always because the community is just going to be in a constant state of hysterical screaming for the now entire future of your company because no one will ever it doesn't matter how well you do it no one's ever going to agree about what you're working on, how you're working on it, all these different types of things,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And now a huge portion of your time is going to be filled up addressing community comments, dealing with whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's just like, oh, man. I don't know. It's not good. If you want to peek into how it goes, check out Star Citizen.

Yeah. Oh, good. Oof. Okay. I was kind of like like i don't know if you can say any of this definitively until you said that yep all right you win um next up short circuit is partly responsible for the mechanical keyboard rabbit i went down this week what are all of your keyboard preferences I am a pleb and I'm actually really loving the Logitech 915 TKL it's not it's a nice keyboard two out of two of mine have been defective in some way eventually one started double pressing and the other had like an RGB LED die or something like that. So I didn't even bother arming that one. But like what I will say about it is I have grown very accustomed to low profile. Low profile is sick. And it, I'm really fast on it. I wish it had a numpad. Maybe

I should get the numpad version. Is there one? I don't know, but I, yeah, I'm, I like it. I think I have the external notepad i had oh that's true i actually have one on my desk i just always forget to use it i think i have whatever is the like soft tactile like whatever like browns would be but in there whatever mechanical switches they're using on that i'm i'm definitely into the super super nerdy stuff that that plof's got. Like, anytime I'm at his desk, I'm like, like on his keyboard, it's like, oh, it's so good.

What's the brand name of the keyboards, the standard keyboards? Dan's probably gonna know. I have one in front of me. They are Keychron. Keychron. How expensive are these? Oh, let's not get into this again.

They're $800 each. I think they're a good deal, though. They're really nice, yeah. They're sick. So what I was really going to say about it is, like, when I came into the office, things I was worried about was peripherals because I have some pretty strong preferences about peripherals.

And then they were able to give me the same mouse I have at home I don't have my like power play pad but that's fine whatever I just plug it in when I leave we have those two that's easy I do not need one I just I would rather just use the setup that I have I just plug it in when I leave it's completely fine um but I got I got the keychron keyboard and I was like this is pretty sick it's pretty nice it's a nice keyboard I'm not going to request a different one I'm just happy um but i got like yeah i got the keychron keyboard and i was like this is pretty sick that's pretty nice it's a nice keyboard i'm not going to request a different one i'm just happy with what i got yeah we don't want we don't want to just like issue people crap right for sure yeah i was just i was worried about how expensive it was but i didn't actually want to change it because it's really nice and like people here are going to be typing a lot like having a having a

good solid keyboard genuinely even makes sense for just like ergonomic reasons um and even just having the pick of whatever keyboard that you want if you don't yeah it's so cool and different mice and all that sort of stuff i think that's really important it's pretty sweet benefit yeah i'm not i'm not trying to crush on that i was just like hoping it wasn't super expensive um but yeah i actually really like that keyboard. I'm a fan. Right now I use... Oh man, what's the whole name? Sherbets? I think they're not spelled the same as Sherbet. Oh my goodness, I'm not going to be able to remember the name of it.

But I use some really weird key switches at home. And I like them a lot. But I also really like my Keychron at work. i'm very happy with both of them yeah okay you've stated that you're really not into the idea of bridging multiple internet connections to boost speed with a person with gigabit plus internet would you say that the same thing for under five megabits per second connections no because that person as far as could tell, was trying to boost the speeds that they could individually access past the speed of one of those connections, which is really complicated and involves, like we did a video about this, how to double your internet speed

or whatever, where we worked with ITEL to actually bond multiple internet connections. And the problem is that they have to go through an aggregator that is a separate third essentially internet connection service that you have to pay for that combines everything you can't just like use your router to do that so with that in mind that was not a real solution to that problem and it's not even a problem because gigabit we made the argument i think you were in agreement on that one and it's not even a problem because gigabit we made the argument i think you were in agreement on that one and i don't remember i basically said no don't buy two one gigabit connection yeah that gigabit is enough for your internet because external services

are more likely to be your bottleneck with five megabit all of a sudden it's a very different conversation um and in fact the badminton center that i built that uh video streaming setup for i did a video about it a while back i did advise them to get a second internet connection because they're limited by crappy adsl upload speeds and so we weren't able to stream from all of their courts concurrently but we were able to get around that by having two nicks on the back of the computer, and then I have one of them going to one internet connection, the other going to the other,

and then I have OBS configured to send out three streams over one connection and two streams over the other connection so that we're able to actually utilize all of that bandwidth with a single client. But you'll notice that that's not a single application. That's dual network interfaces with five discrete applications that need network access. So if you're trying to overcome some kind of bottleneck, then yes, it's a valid solution,

but it has to be a multi-user or at the very least, multi-application over multi-interface solution. Now, you probably don't actually need two physical interfaces. You could probably set it up with VLANs or whatever else if you're very clever. It was a lot faster for me to just do it this way. Okay, the last

one I have here in the curated. In the past, you've encouraged the preservation of data on the internet. With that in mind, how do you feel with those that saved slash downloaded the private videos that were released by the hackers? Data preservation. Okay. So this is, I feel like there's going to be someone out there who's going to, you know, in bad faith. Interesting answer here.

Yeah. In bad faith, take my response and try to find the hypocrisy in it. You know, like I could, the bottom line is, no, I consider that my private data that was never intended to be published and you pretty much. Right. Like, and you could look at that answer and you could go well Linus you know you had a very different position when we were talking about um like leaks out of Nintendo of something like the the Super Mario World assets I think is an excellent example like some of the some of the asset and source code leaks out of Nintendo and my response to that is that Nintendo

is not an individual citizen for one thing and for another, that has historical significance. You know, footage that I never intended to release of me playing with my children does not have historical significance. That's just an invasion of my privacy. Now, you could turn around and you could say, well, anytime you upload something to the Internet, you pretty much relinquish your control over it. the internet you pretty much relinquish uh your control over it and that's true to an extent but it's also um it's not cool it's not cool to kind of go ha ha ha because you did ha ha ha ha like it's i don't know yeah you're just like kind of a asshole. Like what else can I really say about it, right? Like it's out there. It's done now.

The milk is spilt. I'm not going to Streisand effect this, right? Like I'm not going to complain about it and imagine and try to get it taken down. Like it's not going to happen, right? But if you like think you're clever and you think you're cool or whatever, you're not and you're not.

um but if you like think you're clever and you think you're cool or whatever you're not and you're not yeah i uh i strongly agree with that and i don't think we had actually talked about it and i was unsure if we were going to talk about it on the like hack land show that was the day after or whatever um but it's it's kind of disgusting to me to be completely honest and i have i have archived things that have leaked before but it's different i've archived things that are like extremely unrelated to picture videos of someone playing with their children you know what i mean like i've archived some some scientific. I've archived stuff like that. Yep. That's very different to me.

And I think painting all of it with a broad brush is ridiculous and just kind of gross. Yeah, well, it's voyeurism, straight up. It's extremely icky to me. Like, that's very gross. I mean, while you're at it, why don't you train a model with my face and watch AI-generated porn? You can.

Because it's disgusting and unacceptable. Anyways, yup. I read some threads. Sorry, you were in the right, but I read some threads on No go for it You were in the right But I read some threads on it

At the time where people were defending it And it made me uncomfortable And I just moved on Because I don't like it But it is what it is It's out there Alright Hey Linus

Whatever happened with the $1 PC giveaway? What was the craziest thing you have given away? Was that the stream one, the random PC? I think so. Yeah, we gave it away. And what's the craziest thing you've ever given away? Probably that. I would agree.

That was nuts. Yeah. Well, there was the rig at Micro Center that wasn't technically given away, but would you pay like $20 or something like that or like $10? Yeah, I don't know. Computers, usually. Have you guys considered open sourcing software LTT Labs makes so the community can help out?

Free labor will help the labs money pit. Oh, I tried to text response to this one. Me too. Yeah, I think that's why it bugged, which is why I curated it. Because I couldn't reply to it anymore. If it makes sense, we will absolutely consider it, but we are not promising anything at this time. There's a message asking about white or light gray mouse pads.

No. It's just, it's not a good idea. Yep. Ooh, yeah. yep um oh yeah are we working at this time on watched or didn't watch status on float plane why are you winking yes oh i'm cringing oh yeah yeah we are working on that yeah it's like basically done really yeah what about like where you left off yeah yeah oh what really and it'll like resume and everything oh yeah why are you why is all this stuff launching in like a big burst i mean i do know the answer to that but why don't you explain it to them because it felt like nothing was happening for

like a year and then now you're like yeah you can edit your things and you've got color coding in the chat and you've got this and you got that who cares that you know the entire team is busy dealing with like you know a major security event. We're going to launch everything now anyway. Let's go. It already attempts to track it. It super doesn't work. Yeah, okay.

You can't say that without context, Jaden. This is why we can't do the public stand-ups thing. Get wrecked, Jaden. Because it's not all in. Anyways in anyways it's fine it's coming um we uh this stuff makes me sad to talk about so i don't like really want to go over it like a bunch of times i've sort of talked about it on a show in the past our our lead developer float for floatplane absolutely fantastic dude and i miss him a lot um but he's been out sick for over a year technically within that amount of time there was time where he was back but it was for very very short bursts we you know want to do everything we can to support him

we wish him absolutely nothing but the best you know um and we're we've tried in response we've tried to expand the team to try to his contributions to the team were immense to say the least um and we've tried to to hire to try to bring us back to strength and um do other stuff but it's like if Connor McDavid got sick and they tried to just hire a replacement. It's hard. So there's a hockey reference for you, all right? And the new devs that we've brought on are absolutely coming up to speed and working really well.

The team is absolutely getting back to force and that's part of what you're seeing. But there's one Connor McDavid. Missing him sucks. We, for a long time, were kind of waiting for him to come back. He was working on a major platform upgrade. And instead of continuing the work

on the major platform upgrade, because he kind of wanted to just finish it himself, we decided to work on things and set them to wait basically because they were effectively blocked by the platform upgrade um he came back for a little bit was here for a little bit got sick again um and at that point in time i had to make the decision that i probably should have made like a year ago um but i didn't want to make this decision, which was just to finish it anyways, pick up his work and carry it through the finish line.

Um, so we did that and it was a very big challenge, but the team rallied, got behind it. A lot of different people worked on a lot of different things they hadn't necessarily worked on before. And we carried it through the finish line. Um, not 100 of it certain bits we left behind um but we carried what we reasonably could and what we had that's a really long story but we we carried what we could through the finish line and that's the beta site

and it's awesome um and then the team that has been working on features waiting for this this whole time is now releasing their features so there's a lot of features because we waited for a long time um and they're good and it's really cool so you're now getting things like uh the the watch time history jump back to where you were tool thing is going to be coming soonish because that was originally worked on like a really long time ago but just blocked for a super long time we were in the worst development hell i've like basically ever even heard of for a long time it's more of a purgatory and now we're we're coming out of it yeah which is which is a good feeling because we're now finally on the other end uh it took

us a really long time to get here and i appreciate you guys sticking with us um but yeah more cool things are coming i will say um after a lot of these like feature launches get into beta and then after the beta actually releases um it's we're gonna want to spend some time on two things I'm not gonna explain what they are this can turn into a really long conversation are you having an internal float plane meeting or are you talking to the audience right now this is a problem I can talk for way too long so sometimes meetings go for far too long um but he said fart I stole I stole it. I stole a naming scheme from, uh, from Ubisoft rainbow six and it's project health. We want to work on something that I'm calling project health, um, where we need to spend some time on platform health and tech debt and stuff like that.

But, um, yeah, anyways, there's going to be a massive pile of features before we start doing that. And that doesn't mean we're not going to have any features during that time. It does mean that if feature development happens, it has to be wrapped in this, this development style that is coming in with anyways. Okay. Uh,

things are moving again. Thanks for sticking with us. A few quick things. Thanks Kaylee. Also regarding the reflective stripe on the hat, I accidentally clicked your thing and it just popped up there. Um, we're not planning a reflective stripe on the LTT hat pro,

but you could always put a reflective patch on it or something like that if you're a roadside worker. And regarding attaching the laptop bag to a backpack, I see them as sort of mutually exclusive products. I don't think you would have your backpack and a laptop bag at the same time. You should put your laptop in your backpack or in your bag. Yeah, I just don't want to design for that. I think that's a super, super duper edge case.

Cool. Sup, Linus and Luke. Sup. What's your favorite type of curry? Thai. Spicy. Yeah. That's real, real hard-hitting questions

Who's that who's that old guy who does the interviews I can never remember his name No, no Santa Claus Okay, were you sleeping? Were you awake? Were you bad? Were you good? It's this point of the evening, isn't it? Any thoughts on making a dog toy?

Maybe a puzzle-type toy? It baffles me that no matter how much money I spend, I can find a puzzle toy my dog can't solve in five minutes. A dog puzzle toy my dog can't solve in five minutes. A dog puzzle toy. No, I can't say that that has ever occurred to me in a thousand years, nor that it would in a thousand years. We do have a dog WAN hoodie coming, though. That I can commit to.

You know who, if you did want to make one, my mom would actually be a genuinely extremely experienced and good person to consult I bet she would yeah, I don't intend to yeah, it makes sense I mean, I'm down to just like hang out with your mom. That's cool, but like not doing that You and everyone else That's not where I was going with that. He has a quarterly review coming. It is now going to go significantly worse. Hell yeah. All right, up next.

Hi, Luke and Linus. My friend and I would like to know how ethically the closed are sourced, because there is nothing on the website about the ethics of the closed. So we currently have a position that Nick is in the process of drafting that will be posted on the site soon. And it's going to be, I think we're internally calling it like a compliance officer or like compliance coordinator or something like that. And we have a lot of promises, but what we don't have is a lot of boots on the ground figuring out what exactly is actually going on. And so for that reason, we haven't

been able to make any kind of definitive external statements. The goal in the long term is for this person to come in and basically build a program where we can make guarantees about exactly what's going on behind the scenes with our products. Because even aside from it just being disgusting, what's going on behind the scenes with our products, because even aside from it just being disgusting, I don't need the PR of finding out that, like some other A-list celebrity or whatever, I'm sitting out here talking about human rights while my merch is made in sweatshops or whatever, right?

I don't need the bad PR. So even if we look at it strictly from a, I'm a complete sociopath, and I don't care about anybody at all perspective, I want to solve this. Still not the right move. And we will be spending actual money on that very, very soon. So if you or anyone that you know actually works in that space, I would strongly encourage you to apply for the position once it's listed. encourage you to apply for the position once it's listed. Do you have any more?

Oh, there's no more curated ones. Okay. Do you want to just start reading some out? Let's just go for it. First time from Germany. At Luke, Amazon Mesh Network is now tackling the last 10% of USA coverage. Even offline, the device is paying home. Yeah, it's like terrible regarding privacy

linus multimedia mouse keyboard combo wait what oh wait are you talking about that thing i use it's from sadeko i forget what it's called but it's like it's like air keyboard air mouse or something like that all right cool you're done-your-own-screwdrivers would be great for making pride designs. Have y'all considered pride merch? I'm glad you asked. The answer is that I'm not gay. So, for me to profit from pride or trans flags or anything like that has always felt icky to me. However, of course, we want people to be able to represent not just their techie side,

and we want to enable that, but we wanted to do it in a way that is not profitable to us. So the answer, and here's something to consider just because we don't ha how do I put this okay let's say for example that we had a product that was pride themed and all the proceeds went to some kind of pride organization or something like that a I don't feel like vetting charitable organizations and a lot of them are super corrupt. That's why we just donate to BC Children's Hospital

because nobody likes sick kids. That is the worst and all sick kids should be healed. That's like pretty easy to get behind. Also, we just know from our own personal experience, BC Children's freaking rocks. Yep. So that's one side of it. The other side of it is I still profit from that.

I don't profit in money, but I profit in marketing, right? So you got to, anytime you look at a corporation's actions, you got to understand there's something in it for them. It's not just because of like the good feels. You got to understand there's something in it for them. It's not just because of like the good feels. So we were trying to figure out a way to help you rep it or whatever, but not benefit in any way. And the solution is pins. So we actually have an upcoming series.

Oh, like, I almost just said fuss pins. Like the free checkout item? Yes. Oh, that's cool. So we have keyboard pins that are going to be available in a wide variety of color schemes. Are they pride? Are they trans? Are they whatever? I don't know.

I leave it open to people's interpretation. They're whatever you want them to be. We will not take your money for them and we will not benefit in any way from their existence i like that that is our solution um and yeah by all means make a screwdriver unfortunately there's only four color changeable parts so you won't be able to do the whole rainbow. I'm not quite going to get there. Depends on which flag you're... I mean, hey, let's go back to that I don't mind benefiting from things in general. Why don't you build two screwdrivers?

Hey! And use all six colors across the tube. Got him! Oh, man. All right. Anonymous says, hey, I live in Amsterdam. I'm going to work soon. I work at VanMoof.

Neat. Electric bikes. I was wondering if you were looking into bikes. VanMoof bike is a tech product. Anti-theft features are super awesome. We have a couple electric bikes here. Hey, Dan, who makes our electric bikes? I have absolutely no idea.

I have been far removed from that side of the company. Interesting. I mean, do you ever ride them between the buildings? I have absolutely no idea. I have been far removed from that side of the company. Interesting. I mean, do you ever ride them between the buildings? I have ridden them once. I normally just drive my own car back and forth. I rode one today. I feel really bad. Does anyone in the chat know? Lectric? Lectric.

So we use... Man, they are scary fast. I turned the pedal assist up all the way. I was doing 44 kilometers an hour down the road like you could die. Yeah great Yeah, they're very fast. It's a concern. It's legit faster than driving. Yeah, I was kind of liability I don't know but I was concerned and I was kind of thinking We should have like little things on them that are like do not go faster than speed one or like speed two cuz speed three is really fast So that's the thing

i yeah so so shout out lectric seems like a super cool product i rode one today i i worry about the liability of you know just employees riding them down the road especially because this street has this like blind corner that people just come flying down sometimes and it's really stupid and yes there's always cars parked like on both sides the visibility is really bad anyway e-bike technology super cool game changer all right last two greetings from australia i was thinking about buying a handheld gaming pc should i wait for the ally? It's probably going to be more expensive, you think? Yes. Yeah.

But give it a minute. Let's see where this thing lands, because it seems like it's coming pretty soon-ish. Oh, no, people are still sending them. No, no, no more. Thanks, Hector. Wait, what just happened? Okay, cool.

Malcolm, can we have LTT iron-on patches? Or an LTT flux? patches or an LTT flux? What's an LTT flux? I was trying to answer this one because I had an answer for patches, but I have no idea. Also, can we have some kind of way to send you messages directly? You got it. You got it. Iron-on patches.

Yeah, we should do patches. Hey, Dan, can you fire over a message to Sarah, CC Nick? We should do patches. Schedule a Can you fire over a message to Sarah CC Nick? We should do patches I you can't see me. You can't see me behind all this computer thing, so I'm pretty much just like Yes, I can LLM at this point. No I can't All right, I mean that's part of him Creepy Are you still using that mechanical keyboard

you repaired in a video six years ago? Oh, no. Okay, cool. It finally, like, full died. Linus, Vsauce has mentioned he wants to make a movie in which he starts naked in the woods and by the end discovers all the laws of physics. Do you have any movies slash documentaries you want to make?

I don't know. I had this kind of stupid idea for a trailer that I wanted to make, but I don't think it would have fleshed out into a full movie very well. I'm going to go with no.

Let's go with no and let's go with thank you for... Oh, nope. Been in tech for 25 years. One thing that's changed is some of the company original values.

You ever considered any company goal, guidance, soul, legacy training? Yeah, this is something dbrand actually gave me a really hard time about. They were like, where's your mission statement? Where's your culture statement? And I didn't take it that seriously for a long time because we were small enough that the culture was that, you know, I talked to you. But we're too big now. And that's absolutely something that our HR team, which is now two people, is going to be working on. We had this kind of come up with the ad block stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, it is a thing that we're kind of tackling right now. Yeah. All right.

It is a thing that we're kind of tackling right now. Yeah. All right. Thank you for watching. We will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad't get it. MacBooks are fine. Yes. That's going to be taken out of context. They fine.

They're fine.