The WAN Show - Alexa's Been NOT NICE - WAN Show December 31, 2021

Episode Date: January 3, 2022

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Oh, am I supposed to be that low? Oh, we're framed kind of wide. Oh, balls. I don't think it's too late for us to fix it. Oh, welcome to the WAN show, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, we got a great show for you all today. Lots of good topics. Man, there's a lot of hazardous tech going around.

Alexa apparently tried to electrocute a child by advising them to do something spectacularly dangerous. Also, Asus has apparently recalled the Z690 Hero motherboard due to it being a fire hazard. What else we got? Is there any good news this week, Luke? Please. TikTok passes Google as the most visited website.

I said good news. Is that good news? Could you please give me some good news? Is that fantastic? Also, there's an incredibly fast ssd from intel pcie gen 5 ladies and gentlemen and ryan shroud is stoked yeah good old ryan shroud from pc perspective intel from intel all right let's roll that intro intro milk chocolate with caramel and sea salt that yeah hey welcome back anthony i'm glad you were able to get back anthony was like stuck because i don't know if you guys saw that like flights were canceled because like airlines don't have enough staff and stuff apparently my head's been

under a rock yeah no the whole the whole travel industry has been completely screwed apparently hong kong's like crazy draconian um quarantine rules make it so that any pilot that like lands there like has to quarantine immediately so like some pilots for i think it's cathay pacific are just spending basically their whole life in quarantine they're like bleeding pilots like crazy is it cathay i can't remember it's one of the uh it's one of the like trans-pacific like asian airlines Anyway, let's jump right into the big topic today. Hey, thanks, Alexa. Amazon's voice assistant was asked for a challenge to do by a 10-year-old girl.

Alexa responded with, plug in a phone charger about halfway into a wall outlet. Then, okay, touch a penny to the exposed prongs smart now i want to make it really clear that linus media group the wan show luke lefreniere incorporated whatever every possible every possible personal and legal entity involved in this show does absolutely not recommend doing that. That is a very, very bad idea. At worst, you could, well, no, at best, let's start with at best. At best, you could create an extremely loud noise and an arc. Well, it's not even an arc.

That's just conduction so at at best you could create an extremely loud noise and blow your circuit breaker at worst you could start a house fire and you know everyone could die in the building i think it does say i think it does say no it says then touch so you're still holding it too. I guess so. So you could burn your fingers. That would be pretty bad too. Yeah, it'd be pretty rough. So this is currently known as the Penny Challenge. It started on TikTok and other social media roughly.

The most viewed website. Thank you, Luke. That's very helpful. No problem. Roughly a year ago, Inside Edition did a report on it in January. And crazily enough, it's not even the stupidest thing that's ever been a social media trend. I mean, have you seen... Yeah, Tide Pods was pretty good.

Did you see the one where people were like building human pyramids and like getting seriously injured falling off of them because they have no training whatsoever? No. Stuff like that? I don't know.

Anyway, Amazon quickly responded after being made aware of the issue. Customer trust is at the center of everything we do. Is it? Is it, though? Is it really? And Alexa is designed to provide accurate, relevant, and helpful information to customers, said Amazon in a statement.

It must not be designed very well. As soon as we became aware of this error, we took swift action to fix it. So, I mean, here's the question though realistically how do you how do you thread that needle between providing you know up-to-date trendy information to your users and making sure that you don't advise them to do something that hasn't been vetted by some kind of like safety panel well you could yeah you could hire people um to make sure that what it says isn't super stupid sorry you mean hire people to develop an ai to make sure that it's not stupid no no no no no uh i i genuinely think it especially in regards to any form of advice or like suggestion that isn't a product i think that should really be filtered through people like reading this was i was stunned that this actually made it through

and this this almost made me think like i know there's a lot of people that are that are against the idea of um automated cars driving on roadways right now especially extremely like still in testing versions yeah which there's quite a bit of yeah there's a lot of that going around like do we have that same type of issue with suggestions that could go to your kids to plug things into walls and electrocute themselves yeah i mean i guess if you're gonna if you're gonna beta test you know an autonomous vehicle with your children in it you might as well you might as well like put pennies in wall sockets not advice this is not advice yeah i just this is nuts i i don't know um i i really think like ai is not there yet to be able to automatically detect if a suggestion that it could make for a challenge or something like that could be extremely dangerous to you.

Yeah. And it's it's I don't even think we're necessarily close. There's a lot of like understanding that it would have to have about the world. Now, here's something I want to know. What are the odds that, that you know left to her own devices this kid wouldn't have come up with something worse on her own i mean i did some stupid stuff like playing with fire when i was a kid but that's that's external though this this is a suggestion coming from a from a company's product yeah that's that's fair that's not just

dumb kid doing dumb thing yeah okay that's fair i'm lucky to be alive truthfully i grew up in the boonies all right you do some stuff we weren't allowed to watch tv until after everyone had finished their dinner and i had i had a sibling who was one of those a slow eater ah yeah kindred spirit i had a i had a slow eater sibling and we had a rule. Not only could you not watch TV until everyone was done their dinner, you actually could not leave the dinner table until everyone was done their dinner. So you know how I eat. I think the only person in this building who eats faster than me has got to be David Gauthier. Have you seen that man consume food? I don't think so. Well, you blink and you miss it.

Maybe that's why. He inhales food. Anyway, the point is, I'm an efficient eater. For me, eating is not about like... I love that that audio is coming through right to my ears. Yeah, yeah. Look, it's not about this. It's not about an experience.

This is about how many calories and of the correct vitamin-nutrient mix I am ingesting and depositing into my stomach. Move on to other tasks. So I can go do something else, please. I vaguely remember us having somewhat similar rules, and then my family just getting really frustrated with how slow I ate,

and then we just abandoned all of them. I'm pretty sure that happened. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure that happened. I wish that had happened for me for years. For years, I had to wait for my sister to finish her food and I was just like, this is ridiculous. I should be able to leave. Like, I know the idea is that as a family, you sit down and enjoy a meal together i'm not enjoying this i'm not talking to any of you because i'm sitting here stewing i'm festering i'm furious i want to leave now anyway um you know you're mentioning stupid things you did when you were a kid i i was in um

i was in this camp thing i don't remember exactly what it was but we were we were out camping for a weekend uh my parents weren't there it was, but we were out camping for a weekend. My parents weren't there. It was just like the troop or whatever. And I caught some kids that were trying to... This is going to sound ridiculous.

Okay, it's creature-oos and hammers, right? No. They were finding really, really, really small twigs and sticks and then wrapping duct tape around it it lighting it on fire and trying to smoke it and i caught them doing that what kind of kids were you hanging what the heck are you doing and i like i i told them that my guess because like and that isn't i wouldn't even normally tell them people that were screwing around but this was just so absurd that i was like someone else has to know about this so i told them them and then

like if i remember correctly both i and all of them got like yeeted out of the camp i think you did i think i got yeeted out because my mom heard about it was just like no if that kind of stuff is going on i'm taking them out now i don't think I was like kicked out by the camp. I think my mom was just like, this is done. This is over. I could see your mom doing that. Yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, that's probably the most ridiculous individual thing that I remember any kids doing when we were growing up. Okay. Okay. Okay. For shrug IDK. That's not tattle tailing.

Okay. So, so we actually have, there's like, there's a scale. No, no, there's a, there'sletailing. Okay, so we actually have taught... There's a scale. No, no. There's a line, okay?

So tattling is telling on someone just to be mean. If something is legitimately dangerous, then it's not tattling. It's alerting the appropriate authorities, which is not the same thing. Yeah. And if someone is actually inhaling like burnt duct tape fumes... Like I was thinking like permanent damage like you know

like you're gonna screw your brain up or something and i was a kid and even then i was like this is you don't grow up properly from this oh man something bad is happening the stories are the stories are coming in we got handsome harold over in float plane chat goes, one kid in a high school in my town tried smoking weed in a bounce dryer sheet so they wouldn't smell like weed, ended up in the hospital. Oh my goodness. Oh man. Oh man. Oh no, Jaden.

Kids in my grade eight class crushed up rocket candies and snorted them. Okay, so for the Americans out out there those are what you know as smarties yeah so they're those little like powdery uh circular candies that come in the little wrapper like this they're called rockets here uh snot rockets apparently from uh at jayden's school oh yeah yeah oh that's really awful um okay so yeah i don't know i i took part in in many a mischief and witnessed many a mischief and did not did not tell but most of them were just like kids screwing around yeah yeah not like potentially permanent brain damage from inhaling yeah yeah i um so twitch chats like yeah who didn't snort Smarties?

Typical Twitch chat. Typical Twitch chat. You know, YouTube chat, floatplane chat. They're like, yeah, that's like super weird. That thing that happened one time. Twitch chat's like, I'm doing it now. This is totally normal. This is a trend on the platform right now. Who isn't snorting Smarties and rockets?

It's the best. Oh, man. Once again, I would like to just point out that we do not, in fact, endorse any of this behavior. None of this. None at all. Yeah, the only things you should be snorting are good old fashioned oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide mixtures. All right. Nice.

Very good. Love it. All right. Let's jump into our next topic here more dangerous technology asus has apparently recalled their rog z690 hero motherboard we actually bad timing uploaded a video featuring this motherboard right around the time the recall was sort of happening obviously we recorded the video way before, but there are at least six reports of these motherboards allegedly,

I mean, it's not really allegedly at this point, ASUS has actually initiated a recall, catching on fire. Six reports now. How are you supposed to get the error code? Okay, what's the I was on fire error code, Luke? Let me just Google ASUS error code fire. Yeah, 666.

That's the one, right? I'm sorry. We're in a hellish inferno here, boys. Just adds a number. Oh, man. I heard the best joke the other day, but I'm going to tell it to you later. Oh. So just remind me to tell you a joke.

Okay. On show or? On show, on show. So Reddit user, TheMaxXHD posted 13 days ago about how they had a board fail. They bought a new one, rebuilt the system with a new power supply as well, only for that board to fail too. So users either get code 53 indicating a memory issue or the unlucky ones, the board melts or catches on fire. Buildzoid from Actually Hardware Overclocking thinks it's a capacitor being installed backwards. And pictures of the boards, he points out that in some cases,

the polarity stripe on a capacitor near the memory and error LED is on the other side apparently jace two cents also agrees that that is probably what's going on that's a little awkward um so this could be due to bad quality control at the factory or using multiple sources for capacitors so they look slightly different but if you bought an rg maximus z690 here you can check the serial number at Asus' support page. Our discussion question for this one from Nicolas Plouffe is, how many motherboards have Linus and Luke seen fail over the years? And what is up with this past year or two being so bad?

I actually don't even know if this past year or two was even so bad. I'd say we've seen like a ton of of motherboard failures over the years the problem for us though is that we never have a significant enough sample size to say okay actually i shouldn't say that there there have been some there have been some dud motherboards over the years and actually the worst one that i'm aware of that ever existed was another one from asus um well if you if if you did IT work back when you and I were growing up. Yeah, in the Enforce days. Well, liquid caps, right?

Yeah, that too. OK, so that goes back a little bit further, yeah. But I worked with those a lot back when I used to work in computer repair. Like a huge percentage of the time, one of the standard things I would do is if someone was like, yeah, my computer's not turning on turning on i take the side panel off and look for like leaking caps yeah because that was just so common back in the day so yeah lots of motherboards i've seen lots and

lots of motherboards fail it's it's been kind of a thing for a long time where you just you know there's a chance your motherboard's going to fail but your cpu probably won't yeah well that's uh we've got a video coming about that quite soon actually where we we try to figure out what is the best used cpu to buy and you know i think a big yeah i'm assuming you guys go over this in the video but a big factor that is gonna be how much the motherboard exactly because that's that's enormous right because you you might be tempted to go buy the 2020 overclockable Xeon on eBay, but you might not realize, oh shoot, I'm gonna need $60 RAM to get this going

and an $80 motherboard. And meanwhile, I could have just spent $60 or $70 on a first gen Ryzen. And then I could buy a brand new board that doesn't have a ton of years on it already. Super sus, yeah. I could buy DDR4 memory instead of old DDR3 memory that for whatever reason is as expensive, if not more so.

Yeah. And I'm getting way better performance. And so it ends up having a ton of really cool lessons in it. So one is how to bargain shop, right? Nice. So not just looking at components in isolation. And then the other cool lesson that we accidentally drove home was that Alex overclocked all the platforms because by his logic, if you're trying to squeeze the absolute most out of an aging platform, you should absolutely be overclocking it. So he ended up

with, I think it was either three or four different CPUs that all happen to cap out around four gigahertz. And we did a video recently talking about how gigahertz doesn't matter. And in the video, this is so, it's so hard to have these conversations. In the video, at one point I say, so gigahertz does matter.

And I go on to explain how assuming identical architectures, that is still a useful way that you can differentiate between one chip and another one. And the comment section is full of people being like, yeah, she even admits it. identical architectures right that is still a useful way that you can differentiate between one chip another one and the comment section is full of people being like yeah she even admits it gigahertz does matter i'm going to continue to shop with gigahertz and anyway um as part of as part of working on this video we ended up sort of accidentally proving once again that gigahertz is

not a particularly meaningful measure of a CPU's performance. It is only an indicator that we can look at alongside many other indicators. That is the only way that it is useful. That's cool. That sounds like a good video. Mike says, LTT profit hat like the new era sports ones I want

also for cyber security show idea from last week Linus sec tips sec tips we're just getting some merch messages incoming I unfortunately do not have a I do not have any products to launch this week.

We have... Actually, I'm going to let you guess. I'm going to let you guess. How many containers of products do you think we have sitting in the port waiting to be unloaded? Three. Higher. Really? Whole containers.

Whole containers, boys. Five. Five. Five? Five containers. Oh, my goodness. higher really whole containers whole containers boys five five five containers that's so much oh i am so frustrated there are many products that we are supposed to be launching or restocking that we are not launching and not restocking i'm going to check my email from nick that has my weekly sadness report um because the stuff never comes so here's everything that is just sitting in a container wan pants nice blank pants so we're going to start doing some like printed design pants okay um blank t-shirts extreme edition pillows amd edition pillows including thread ripper pillows our swacket restock our wan hoodie restock and our cable ties all of that is supposed to be coming like like imminently so you know january is going to be a busy month it's going to be a busy month it's going to be a busy month it's

going to be good stuff i look guys i know oh oh shoot i was supposed to talk to kyle about the screwdriver okay luke can handle this next topic on his own i was reminded by true serang uh i'm supposed to look at the ratchet maybe i'll bring it down i'll bring it down yeah yeah okay all right if kyle's still here i'll bring it down we'll talk about it uh can i talk about the tiktok thing tiktok on top surpasses google as most visited website cloudflare has declared them the new winner uh in february 17 2021 they held the top spot but for only a day they continued to gain more days on top of that in March and May as well. By August 10th of 2021, it was leading on most days. Part of the rising success of this could be attributed to Biden lifting the ban on TikTok that Trump previously had in place. The ban was lifted in June.

More than 1 billion users sign in to TikTok monthly, primarily teens and children. The top 10 visited websites in 2021, according to Cloudflare, are TikTok, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, YouTube, Twitter, and WhatsApp. There's genuinely some surprising ones to me on there. I'm kind of surprised how low YouTube is. Microsoft being so high is very weird to me. Top 10 visit website, Microsoft. Odd. I know like msn.com would be the default for Edge browser,

but like genuinely not that many people run that anymore it's very interesting uh discussion question is will the older generation eventually take over tiktok like it did with facebook or will it simply die like vine i don't think it's gonna die like vine um it might it might i i know a number of people including myself i i avoided installing tiktok up until this news came out and i was like man if it's more popular than than google uh i don't want to be too much of a boomer so i should probably just install it uh so i installed it and then i opened it once and i closed it and i haven't opened it again. TikTok? Yeah. It's not that bad. I'm just, I just don't really care. I saw this TikTok. It was like how, how girls pick up clothes and she was all like, okay, here's how, here's how sexy girls do it. And she's like,

and then she's like, here's how I do it. And she picks it up with her foot and goes like this. It was like, it entertained me for about nine seconds that was good yeah i i have to admit i haven't really looked at it since then though i was just saying i i know both myself and a few other people have installed it since this news came out just deciding like you know what if it's passing google i don't want to be that much of a boomer i do really question how this data is tracked and stuff i haven't i haven't read into it super deeply i mean it's cloud flare so you think they've done like a fair probably a pretty good job but like are they really capturing all the times like are they counting if i search on my phone by not

opening a website but just typing in the search and search that way or search with voice or something like that is that counting i don't know probably not you know who's great though on tiktok so i had no idea that she was a tiktoker at all because i don't know tiktok but she's local her name's call me chris well her name's chris but her handle is call me chris and so as part of like i i think i should vet people that we collab with from now on um so i was like hey what's she like? She's hilarious. She's local. We're going to do a video with her probably sometime January, February. She's had a lot of the same problems as me.

That's what's delayed the collab because just construction and permit nightmare. She's moving into a new place or something. So yeah, we want to set up her new place with this ultimate gamer space nice so you can get more into streaming and and stuff like that cool and so we've been we like announced it two or three months ago and people are like hey are you guys ever going to do that collab with call me yes yes so we've we've been busy yeah we've only like had one call talking

about it and then um some of the guys on my team have kind of worked on sort of laying out the space and and uh what it's going to look like but because it's not finished we can't can't do it so we're definitely still working with her she's amazing um yeah so so there you go that's one worthwhile thing to watch on tiktok or you can do what i did and just go on her youtube channel and just watch the compilations yeah i don't care i don't get tiktok are you surprised okay are you surprised by this list because i kind of was tiktok number one yeah google number two facebook number three microsoft sorry wait what does that include like microsoft live services like like xbox like microsoft i mean is hotmail still a thing yes i mean i know look yeah yeah uh apple is next then amazon then netflix then youtube why do people okay so here's something that confuses me a little bit why do people need to go to apple's website

yeah i don't know i don't know this is what website? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. This is what, like, I don't know what all this is. Like, does this include, like, Siri queries? You know what I mean? I don't know. I haven't dove into this enough. iCloud uploads? I feel like I'm seriously missing some intense information

because, like, Apple existing there at all is weird. Is the app store? Does that count? Lego, Pandora, and Twitch. Telemetry! That's half the Microsoft traffic. And Apple. Oh, no.

Yeah, Amazon, then Netflix. I'm genuinely surprised that Netflix gets more visits than YouTube. Seems kind of weird to me. Is this in gigabytes, or is this in yeah like what like query count because um yeah app store jayden says yeah app store could be huge but like is that is that a visit or is that like like to me visiting facebook like the kind of interaction you're going to do on Facebook should not count the same as visiting the app store and like downloading an app. That's not in my mind anyway. That's not the same kind of interaction with a service or with a website.

So I just brought up Cloudflare's page on this. In 2021, the internet went for TikTok you for tiktok space and beyond i scrolled down kept going blah blah blah top 10 most popular domains which is a little bit more specific okay microsoft.com specifically uh mills jonah on floatplane says it's dns queries yeah because it's it's the second they said domains i was like oh so basically it's really not that meaningful then no all right it's not well why don't we move on and do a couple of the curated merch messages here john s asks when will the next scrapyard wars happen honestly i think scrapyard Wars is retired.

I think it's old yellered. I think it's, I think, I think it has not only stayed its full welcome. I think it overstayed its welcome. I think the last series was- Overstayed by one season, yeah. Maybe even two. I think the last couple were honestly

not up to the standard. And there's so many problems with continuing to do it. Problem number one is that we're kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel for ideas to continue to put a new spin on it problem number two is that the used market is just ruined it's destroyed when we started scrapyard wars the used market was vibrant you could get such amazing deals man such amazing someone literally pointed out that the the graphics card that i bought in the first gapyard wars it was something like eight years later was the same price wow like just what yeah that actually makes sense what card was that it was a How much is a two? Holy crap. I'm doing it.

How much is an R9 290 on eBay? I'm afraid. Holy crap. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We got to check if they've actually sold. We got to check if they actually sold, Luke, because the first Scrapyard Wars, we had a $300 Canadian budget. Imagine being able to buy a legit gaming computer for $300.

We built an entire gaming machine, each of us, for $300. And you had a better GPU, right? You had the R9 290, and I had something lesser, but I had a better CPU. What we ended up figuring out was if we mashed our two computers together and actually spent, I think it was like $330 or something. It was like a really legit computer. But your GPU was a little pinner. System overall was better.

Yeah. And my GPU was jacked, but my platform was worse. It was terrible. Yeah, right, right. I remember you saying like you wouldn't even consider daily driving yours. Whereas mine was like probably actually reliable. It was a solid computer. But yours just like absolutely creamed

mine in terms of performance holy crap this is a parts card for 93 dollars for parts luke that's horrible parts only 90 bucks 90 bucks as is 80 dollars, the first episode of Scrapyard Wars has over 6 million views. That's pretty solid. That's insane. That is freaking insane. The first episode of Scrapyard Wars was in 20... What year was it?

2015? No. What year was it? Yes, it was 2015. 2015! What? Is that late? Yeah. We did it from the house. Yeah yeah we're in the house in 2015 you know it's

almost 2022 right just saying i thought we were out of the house before 2015 so that's problem number two with scrapyard wars um that we basically can't get a better deal today than we could get yeah seven years ago and then like back then when we could say like 300 budget and it was actually interesting that was cool but now the market's so messed up that like what would you even say what budget would you give i don't even know because everyone everyone is so like attuned to the value of used hardware now that there's no such thing as getting a deal no right yeah that's that's the other thing it's not cool you're not going to find a cool deal like it's it's just you're just going to pay some like some uh scalper that's that's almost

certainly what's going to happen and then problem number three is that both Luke and I are so recognizable anywhere where computer hardware is involved that going incognito is basically impossible. I remember during the one with Jay and who else participated in that one? Dimitri. And Dimitri, that's right. The one with Jay and Dimitri. I was just I was walking down the street in like a hat and sunglasses and wearing uncharacteristic clothing. I was wearing shorts like I was trying to kind of go incognito. And someone just barely even looking just out of the corner that I like.

Hey, sup, Linus? I'm sitting here going, why do I even bother? What is even the point of anything? because I can't I can't maintain a low profile anymore and this isn't just like oh humblebrag line is oh too famous because it's not even like that if I go to a home depot the odds of anyone knowing who I am is pretty low whereas if I show up at you know a best buy the odds of someone knowing who I am is pretty high it's just a matter of like being well known within, within this like hyper focused vertical and then literally no one else on the face of the earth giving any hoots whatsoever. But it does mean that while I could probably do storage wars or, you know, makeup, makeup hall

competition without it being a problem, because one of the rules of scrapyard wars, and I think it's a fundamental rule. I think it's an important role. One of the rules of scrapyard wars and i think it's a fundamental rule i think it's an important role one of the rules of scrapyard wars is you can't use your influence to get a deal yeah um it's become basically impossible for me to not do it because even if i don't ask people even people who know scrapyard wars they'll be like no you're not allowed to do this but i could totally cut you an awesome deal i totally want you to win like no stop now i can't take it yeah you know and i know they i know they mean well and i appreciate you fam but oh man i'm dying i'm dying here i'm really trying to find the price that i got that 294 but i can't

find it uh it's probably it's got to be in there somewhere. Someone in the comments said, this show is amazing. I can't believe, this is from six years ago, I can't believe Luke got an R9 290 for under $78 USD. That doesn't sound right. That's got to be right. $300 budget, Luke. We only had to do the tower that time.

We didn't have to do peripherals. Yeah. But like case, power power supply cpu memory mother like yeah i don't know they were it was crazy though it was crazy those those cards were dirt cheap nobody wanted them yeah nowadays people are desperate for anything they can game on intel has to be the savior i don't see any other way out i mean i was literally having this conversation with someone. I think it was my brother a couple of days ago where I went like, hopefully Intel comes in and then they just,

you know, they get more GPUs per wafer and everything's okay. That's what we need. Cause we need volume. Yes. We don't need more like RTX 30 nineties. No. What we need is a whole bunch of like 30 50 class cards we need an absolute

flood of them so people have something something to game on and i was talking to you about this i i think it gotta be two two three days ago or something we were playing halo and i was talking about how i'm like i'm like happy and also really frustrated that halo is is it it looks really good but it's really hard to run on your system and like i feel like i was asking for that for years and we weren't getting it and now there's this insane hardware shortage and no one can build computers and we get halo and it's really hard to run and i'm like ah it came up because my son joined us for a halo gaming session. And it was running kind of crap on my wife's machine. I was sitting there going, this thing has like an RTX 2080 in it.

Unfortunately, it's also running an ultrawide that's 3840 by 1600. Yeah, I figured out that problem after. Because I mean, we'd already been waiting around for game patches and everyone getting into Discord. So I just wanted to get going. So I just kind of cranked down the details. I was like, I'll look at this later. game patches and everyone getting into discord bubble so i just wanted to get get going so i just kind of cranked down the details i was like i'll look at this later but i didn't realize her panel was so high resolution she's only running an rtx 2080 and i know i know i know whoa okay

hold on everyone i i know only rtx 2080 in a pretty privileged position here but that game is flipping demanding yeah and when you try to run it on on on that resolution it's it's gonna be real tough yeah i know i know people with like 3090s that struggle because they have like ultra rides or whatever and halo just like i don't know i'm running 4k everything i'm running 4k on my 3090 and it's like fine i don't know i mean it depends on what kind of fps you're going for like if you're if you're trying to hit... No, I'm trying to think. Like if you... Yeah, no, mine's 120 hertz, 120 hertz 4K.

That's about as bad as it gets. What frames are you getting though? I actually don't know. It's smooth though. It's really smooth. I don't have frame view up. We've got a couple other merch messages here. Oh, where'd the curated ones go?

Whoopsie daisies. Matt M., long time listener, first time caller, finishing up his and hers gaming setups uh any plan on doing a reviewing your setups video soon i like your funny words magic man um you know what's really funny is i've been extremely resistant to doing those videos jake has basically grabbed my arm wrenched it behind my back both times to convince me to do that i just it feels like cheap unnecessary filler content but people love it people love it yeah i know you gotta get over that a little bit i know i know i just i always i respect the i was i deeply respect the dedication to like trying to

keep highbrow stuff every time but it doesn't have to be highbrow but i like i like to do something new sure i don't like to retread old territory. But it gets hard when you've done like 4,000 videos. Or more. I think it's more than that, yeah. I really think you guys should do the, and I know it's not different, and your argument is very sound, and I just don't care. You guys should do a snow-cooled computer.

You guys should go out to the giant mountain of snow. You should sit someone on top of it for the intro. Be like, we're breaking records in Canada. We're going to shove some radiators in the snow. You should just do it. It'd be sweet. You know I've already done it, right? In a video?

On NCIX Tech Tips. I mean, I'm basically a walking, breathing Simpsons did it. You name it. Just do do it again you name it I've pretty much better done it I mean even when we try to like do it better okay so here's here's a classic example of do the same thing but do it better okay check this out triple projector uh triple projector Linus something. Okay, so 10 years ago, I did this on Linus Tech Tips. We had GTX 590. Oh, this was actually sick. Triple 3D vision projectors.

We actually did a whole event. People could come in and they could try the setup. And what was crazy about it was it was only about two megapixels because they were 720p but because um you would sit so far back from it it was actually and because it was more about the the 3d depth it didn't look that bad it was it was pretty cool uh so it was like a super ultra surround wide vision, 3D vision stereoscopic gaming setup. So I go and I try to kind of recreate that magic.

12K, we do it bigger and better than ever. This is like many times the resolution. We put it on the side of a building, okay? We're gaming on the side of a building okay we're gaming on the side of a building luke no one cared about that it's like is it a title problem ah could be it's also a format problem we ended up so we talk about the original one here a little bit we also kind of we dork around for too much talking about quadros and stitching together the image uh this is something that we this is a mistake we wouldn't make today we would jump right into the juice at the beginning yeah

it's got to go right there but i always had this kind of um i've always had this kind of storytelling snobbery about me where i like to i like to assume i have a captive audience i like to assume that the viewer that starts the video is going to finish the video and that I can kind of tease them along the way and be like, and we're going to get to that later, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to save the best parts for last kind of thing.

And what I've realized, you know, talking to super smart people like Jimmy, Mr. Beast, some of the other folks in this discord that I'm in, um, is you just gotta, you just gotta leave that at, check that attitude at the door. You can't do it. That's just not the way that modern content works. You've got to get right into it. So our current video Bible, um, stipulates that unless you are addressing the title and thumbnail within the first 10 to 20 seconds of the video, you do not have a video and you need to go back and you need to retool your intro so that you are addressing the title and thumbnail within 10 seconds. It's so interesting to me because I feel like I must watch YouTube so differently to such a monstrous part of the audience because i almost never watch youtube as my main activity

yeah i'm almost all if i'm watching youtube i'm probably doing something else and it's probably half background noise half video that i'm actually watching right so the amount of times i would click off in 10 seconds into a video because i'm not interested is not common because i'm probably doing something else um but i don't know got it uh i got a couple more merch messages here uh mason asks what is ltt have in store for 2022 i'm a long time viewer excited to see what you guys have in store ltx 2022 we want to do ltx 2022 honestly omicron is making it look less likely than we thought it was even a month ago. We were basically gearing up. I mean, I've seen Chase working on floor plans. We have a title sponsor.

We want to do it. But if we can't do it safely, I mean, look at what happened to CES. Literally days, days from CES, you've got Intel pulling out. You've got major car brands pulling out. Everyone's pulling out, you've got major car brands pulling out, everyone's pulling out. How do you plan anything in with the world in the state that it's in? And it's not even just like, I mean, maybe you maybe you subscribe to the theory that it's basically a cold and you're not worried about catching it. Sure, fine. But then you've got all those regular all the regulations to deal with. Like you can't, you can't go attend a show or an event and then

have to quarantine for, for two weeks. And there's places that are down to just five days now, if you're fully vaxxed, but there's also parts of the world where you are still having to quarantine for multiple weeks and sometimes at your cost. Actually, I think it's often at your cost. So it's, I don't know what to tell you guys. As for what we have in store, I think the biggest change that you're going to see in 2022 is that, man, do we ever have some primo applications for the lab? Like when I came out, threw down the gauntlet, was like, think I can't afford you, try me.

We got some people trying me. Some people tried you. We got some literal fricking like chip scientists and fricking like rocket scientists and stuff applying. And to be clear, I'm super into it. We've got some like old school, traditional written tech media guys that made their way over to the manufacturing side

and won out because I know they do. I bet most of them do but it's just there was there was no money in written and if you didn't figure out how to transition to video it was really challenging i think probably one of the smartest guys in the industry is steve from gamers nexus because there is almost there is no one else there is nobody else who manages to do both written and video content the way that he does no one yeah we have not managed to make any inroads into written though that is something that we will be targeting and no one from the written side managed to really hit it big in video no one um so yeah just like massive massive massive respect for for what he's done so the lab

is really going to drive a ton of the content in 2022 if all goes according to plan it's going to take a long time to set up but we are definitely making progress on that already um zachary in a merch message asks have you considered doing a video where you guys see what happens when you order PCs and other tech as LMG versus as a random person? You talked in the past about what you guys think companies would do if they got an order from Linus. That's actually not a terrible idea.

You know what? I'm kind of afraid to tip my hand here, but I'm gonna- Don't say it. I think I get it it don't say it that's cool oh i think it's not what you're thinking okay because i haven't really i haven't really hinted at it yet okay um but i'm planning a video you can expect this in 2022 as well i'm planning a video where we are going to secret shop our sponsors and if they fail this like rubric that we're going to create we are going to yeet them

in public so some of them some of the metrics are going to be things that we've dropped sponsors for in the past things like it being difficult to cancel the service or um like whatever else like we're basically going to create this uh this this sponsor standard sheet and if they don't manage to if they don't manage to meet it then we're just going to be like okay and so this might be a multi a multi-video series because we can't we have so many sponsors now again with the humblebrags but we have so many sponsors we couldn't like feasibly test all of them in a single video so i think we're going to do we're going to do probably like three to five per video we're going to secret shop them we're going to use the services maybe get uh get a review of manscaped's products you know included in it but it's basically going

to be like okay look this is it this is trial by fire you either hold up to our standards for what the customer experience should be or you're gone if they and like the kind of cool part i i what was that series we had back in the day um cake farted no no it was the manufacturer-based one uh where we would like challenge their claim oh oh shit manufacturers say yeah yeah yeah yeah like that was a cool series because if if it turned out that we were wrong that's a huge advertisement for them. Yeah, for sure. And like in this situation, if they do a good job, that's really good for them.

You're basically making a video advertising for them without them paying you. Exactly. Which is huge for them. But then if they screw up. They're on blast. It's horrible. Yeah, that's great. I love that kind of stuff.

100%. So that's something I'm really excited for, especially because we've had some sponsors that we've worked with that we've seen some bad reports, but then we've also seen a lot of good reports. one of those things where we don't have to drop them forever but we could drop them for some period of time as long as they commit to cleaning up their act and then as long as they pass a second test then then we're good and we've we've gotten reasonably good at managing to hide our true identity when engaging with sponsors as part of secret shopper nobody knew that they were dealing with us for secret shopper nobody um so i. So I think that we could pull it off. We should probably do our... Speaking of sponsors,

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we wanted to hit today? Someone reminded me. What's the joke? Ah, the joke ah the joke yes okay how do you get holy water and i read this i can't take credit for it okay i don't know beat the hell out of it what why what because there's no hell in it anymore. Oh. His disappointment is palpable. That one's rough. It's pretty rough.

Oh, jeez. Okay. All right. You want to save some money on DDR5? Well, just... Just get the DDR4. Just beat the hell out of it. just get the ddr4 rip rip cooler memory slot clearance here just get what even what is this video wait okay sorry enough of this hold on let's find a picture look at this thing look at this thing oh my it's the d's the DDR5 to DDR4 memory converter. You got your power delivery here, okay?

Because it's supposed to be built into a module. What? That's amazing. Oh, no. I love it. How much does that cost? I don't know. I'm not even sure if it's save money you got to build these custom modules for each one of these things i'm not sure if this is going to be

a real product this is one of those things that makes no sense because it costs more the solution costs more than the problem like if you just flipped your ddr4 memory on well okay ddr5 is sort of being scalped right now but under normal normal circumstances, if you just flipped your DDR4 on eBay and turned around and bought some DDR5, you're probably going to be out less than what you would spend on this over-engineered monstrosity. Which just looks like it's going to break. But I think it's, you've got to admire Asus's ingenuity.

Oh, yeah. The fact that they got it to work is super cool. Yeah, why worry about whether you should when you can just focus on whether you can? If you guys could get four of them for a video, seeing if there's any performance impacts and stuff could be interesting. Oh, it's a very interesting video

that no one will actually find. We're not gonna... Let me put it this way find we're not gonna let me put it this way we're not gonna do a lot of affiliate revenue based on the links under that video unless we just link not the product we just link something sensible you should actually buy we've done that before yeah uh yeah i would love to test it but i just how many of these even exist that's That's one of my questions. Probably one.

I would say one engineering board. There is only one in the video, eh? Yeah, that's interesting. I noticed when you see it in the board, there is only one. There's just one. It's cool, though. Yeah, whatever. Just don't go that path.

They had to create a special BIOS that allows the ROG Apex to run in DDR4 mode. Then the carrier card addresses the differences in architecture. That's epic. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, this is really, really brutal. Okay, what else we got here? Ooh, this is fun. We got the one, the only, Mr. Shrout over on Twitter.

Perks of the Job was going to save this demo for CES. LOL! See you later, CES. Why not share it with everyone right now? 12th Gen Core i9-12900K with a Samsung PM1743 PCIe Gen 5 SSD. Over

13 gigabytes a second, ladies and gentlemen. What? Like, what? Hold on. That's seven gigabytes a second. That can't be right. Where's the... Oh, shoot.

Boom. That's crazy. I mean, not that for consumer workloads this matters at all. Check the second tweet. Check the second tweet like it's pretty cool though hey hey shroud it always happens hey shroud you want to lend us one by any chance yeah yeah oh hold on a second why don't we show both of the gen 5 drives running at the same time that's why i said or two man what wow that's scaling though yeah what the heck that's crazy yep this is on a consumer cpu

this shouldn't be possible this is like a third that's a third of what we were able to do on the stupid badger den that's insane i love i love how the bench has a 3080 in it as well. Definitely required. Well, yeah. I mean, if you're Ryan Trout, you would just have good stuff in your bench, wouldn't you? That's probably true. I mean, the guy's an actual gamer. He's a pretty cool dude. Holy shnikes.

All right. Well, cool. Yeah, I definitely want one. Wait, what is this? Okay. this has got to be a meme format that i'm not familiar with one of our new writers it is i don't remember what it is it's like i'm at the taco bell i'm at the pizza hut i'm at the combination taco bell and pizza hut okay well this is i'm at the gaming mouse i'm at the ssd i'm at the combination gaming mouse and ssd yeah um yeah it's a gaming mouse with a one terabyte ssd inside of it uh which you know runs over usbc because that's cool

i actually this is actually the smartest thing ever yeah i think this is cool that's the direction i was going in was i think it's cool. Wow. Yeah. It's actually genius. It's sweet. Because if you're on your gaming library in the palm of your hand. Yeah, it's sweet. If you don't mind running a wired mouse, then basically your laptop. So I ran into this recently. So my daily driver is my framework.

But what I used for travel more recently, I mean, I guess I'm not traveling anymore anywhere, but what I like to use for travel is the Asus ROG Flow X13 because it's way more gaming capable. It's got like a 1650, whatever it is, integrated. How much do you game on the road? And oh man, I probably put like 30 hours

into Anno on the trip to tel aviv oh right that makes sense yeah i played a freaking ton of ano yeah yeah so anyway um i switched over to the rog flow x13 because it's gaming capable without even the external gpu and i have the external gpu so i got like freaking rtx 3080 on my external dock. I got my Ryzen 5900HX or whatever it is, my eight core and the thing like I've got desktop grade gaming performance on the go. It's awesome. It's awesome. But what sucks is the Flow X13 only accepts a 40 millimeter or 30 millimeter, whatever the shortest one is, SSD. So while I would love to put a decent sized game library in the thing on like, you know, one of those eight terabyte Sabrent drives or

something like that, I actually can't install it. And I, I tried, I tried to get like a ribbon and like kind of jam it somewhere else or something. I mean, they pack that thing so tight. So this would completely solve my problem. I just put like a big fat game library in it. You plug in your mouse and you're ready to go. This is the actually not stupidest thing ever. Yeah, I think it's sweet. Good job, Adata. Yeah, awesome.

Very cool. Especially like if you like, yeah, I don't know. I just like it. If you go to like a buddy's house or a LAN or if you game at school. 100%. Why not? Yeah. And if someone needs a file off your thing, like sure, whatever.

You just plug in your mouse and then you like got your mouse. And you're like, hey, okay, copy. See you later. It's a mouse USB drive. I think it's sweet. I love it. That's a combination that I can get behind. Yeah, dog.

All right. In in other news goodbye note hello galaxy s22 ultra looks like there's been some pretty big leaks and it's got a pen so we won't need notes anymore nice got some big camera bumpage all right cool i have a question for you and this is actually the discussion question as well, but I had the same thought. So whoever wrote the discussion question, we are of one mind. But in today's day and age, would you just rather a Fold?

Okay. Is the price gap the thing here? The price gap's a big thing. I'm assuming it's significant. The Fold has problems that this won't. So I have a 4,000 milliamp hour battery in here. The S22 Ultra is supposed to have a 5,000 milliamp hour battery that is powering a smaller screen.

It is going to have notably better battery life. Also, in terms of performance, I would expect to get better out of the S22 Ultra. That upcoming Exynos with our dna2 graphics okay but say there's a new fold though because it's been out for a bit yeah it's not full z fold four or whatever sure um i do miss my pen i miss my pen sometimes i was i was trying to what was i trying to do recently i was taking pictures i took pictures of a room at the new place and what i wanted to do what i would what i used to do on my note is i would take a picture of the room

and then i would grab the pen and i would draw the dimensions on it yeah sure and it's one of those little things that like once a freaking year i might do something like that doesn't come up that often but boy when i want to do that is it ever nice to have the pen um and so so yeah i i do miss i miss the notes sometimes and i talked about this in my video on the oppo um the oppo find n i probably 80 plus percent of my time i'm using the front display on this thing so i was i was using my note my old note 9 which i still have kicking around, to put on some music for the girls to listen to while they were trying to fall asleep. They have their little Bluetooth speakers they put in their bed, and they'll listen to music or whatever.

And I was holding it, and I was like, oh. It feels like having an old familiar friend in your hand, you know? It's like, hi, friend. How you doing? Just chilling in my hand. Just chilling in your hand you know it's like hi friend how you doing you know just chilling in my hand just chilling in my hand like this yeah it's yeah it's good to it's good to see it's good to feel you you know so i don't know i might i might go back to a candy bar but for now for now i'm folding i'm a folding boy would you get a giant phone how big is this thing?

6.8 inches. I don't know. Because honestly, even this thing, I miss like the, everyone's Sony would do those like pretty small phones. The Xperia Compact, yeah. Yeah. They still have some really nice stuff

that's actually quite handleable. What is a Sony phone? I know, I know. The that's actually quite handleable. What is this so many for? I know. I know. The camera's pretty decent. Okay. They still don't let you switch your multitasking and back button, though. Honestly, that's one of the biggest deal breakers for me.

It's just, it's so arbitrary. Just allow me to do it. It's like Apple level arbitrary. It's like, oh, you want to rearrange your icons where you want to? Well, no. Well, then no. And I just won't buy it that was easy i hate i hate that i can't individually control uh like notification volumes like my and this is this bugged me for a long time is i in terms of sound and vibration i have media volume call volume ring and notification volume wire those together stop and then alarm volume yeah i'm i'm the same

as you for me a notification is not urgent no and a phone call is urgent because everyone who has my phone number knows that if it's urgent you call and if it's not urgent you do not call yeah because i'm probably on set yeah like people don't if for exactly my uncle he can't wrap his head around that he just calls me whenever i think a lot of people operate that way too yeah so like it's it's i don't really get that many phone calls but i don't want to miss a phone call yes but then there's so many situations where like you miss phone calls i don't want i don't want notifications to be just constantly going off so i'm gonna turn it down and then like i'll turn it down for wancho and

then forget for like a couple days that i like muted it and then i'll miss a call that was actually pretty important a call you say i'll miss a few calls a lot of calls um and then it's just like you need a landline yeah i do that's actually the answer i've been thinking either that or i need the gfs number so that I can reach you you don't have it I'm actually surprised I actually yeah I don't I've been meaning to ask you for it forever every time I can't reach him like bloody hell I need to get plenty times number yeah that would probably and then I just I get in touch with you and usually I'm trying to get in touch with you because it's either something fun or something urgent yeah so

I get distracted by the fun or urgent thing. And then I completely forget to get her number. I'm like, ah, stop. Until the next time, like, I have absolutely no way to reach this man. Oh my God. LTT store product. A smart, just like light.

That just flashes. I would be so into that yeah oh my goodness and so you just like you just if you could customize it so that there was different like it would have to be hierarchical right yeah so like if you get like a a notification for something that you're not very worried about, but you have no other notifications. Okay. It shows a certain light. Yeah. But then if you get like a medium one, then it would show that light.

Like it doesn't worry about the low, the low importance one anymore. Yeah. I'd be super into that. Yeah. Because nobody has landlines anymore. So just something that like flashes when your phone is ringing or something like that would be amazing people are like it's basically a pager yeah yeah pretty much yeah but like but an internet connected pager like it's because i wouldn't want to actually have a separate sim for it like i

wouldn't want it to have a phone service i would just want there to be a companion app that basically just monitors for incoming notifications and then pushes to this thing so that I can. And if you just throw Bluetooth on it so that it also acts as a Bluetooth speaker, like that was a thing for a bit where people would get like Bluetooth, like the old cordless phone handset so that their cell phone would just sit somewhere. And then when they get a call at home, they would just kind of have a normal phone that would be awesome because like i don't like using my phone usually to be completely honest i don't like doing a lot of stuff on my phone so i would rather do it on my desktop but when my phone notifications in modern day and we've talked about this on wancho a lot notifications just suck they they all just suck they kind of across the board and even if i'm not using my phone i'm pretty convinced a lot of the times the reason why i don't get certain notifications is because they they're being picked up by my phone so my

desktop isn't necessarily flashing or vice versa and just having one universal thing that just goes no matter what would be great i've got a lot of people saying like hey it's a smart watch or it's an echo or it's this or it's that it It's like, no, no, no, no. It's simple. Yes. It doesn't do all that other stuff. That's like kind of the point of it. Yeah.

Oh man, I kind of like it. I'm like, I'm just going to plug it into a wall. Like I don't want to. Exactly. I don't want to worry about batteries. I don't want to worry about charging it. I just want it to work. Yeah.

And it just tells me when I'm being summoned. Yeah. We should do a few more messages here yes uh we've talked about this before too the like woof from the office like i really want there to be a nuclear option for contacting me that would be awesome and if i could hand it to like my parents and you and my girlfriend and whatever, and it's like 10 or less people that have it, but my whole, every single device I have is going to freak out and almost overpoweringly not allow me to do anything until I answer this thing,

that would be a really cool option. Yeah, I'd want one. Yeah. I would totally want one of those. Yeah, that'd be sweet. Anyways. All right. Joshua says, happy new years.

How's Lucky doing? Lucky's doing good. Lucky's in the warehouse. Are we going to talk about color e-ink or is that too niche? Honestly, it's niche until a mainstream device gets it. Like that's what I'm really waiting for. Like when Amazon finally does a color your Kindle or something like that, and you can like really enjoy manga or full color comic strips

and stuff like that uh that's when i think it's gonna really take off but right now the quality is not great the last time i looked into it and the cost is still high and there's nothing really mainstream so uh christian says when is anthony getting his linux channel um i don't know i don't know if a linux channel is a priority for 2022 it's a matter of time before we do something more linux or or foss focused but i don't think 2022 is the year uh thomas b says there should be a way to pay for a merch message without buying something i don't need more ltd should be a way to pay for a merch message without buying something. I don't need more LTT gear. Maybe a way to donate to charity and get the message so we get something. Well, okay.

The point is that you just shouldn't send one if you don't need anything. Thomas picked up a banana for scale. Thanks anyways, Thomas. Okay. Paras says, is this how you do merch messages yes paras also said other stuff if so are you hiring engineers i'd love to be part of making epic products um made like the old school good quality kind i had a really great conversation with one of uh one of our guys uh just about like how cool it is to be given the time to research like magnets like how much time he's had to spend

on researching magnets. He's like, yeah, we are going to have for this upcoming product that I'm really excited about. We are going to have a pretty good price advantage because instead of just brute forcing the neodymium content, instead of just like adding more in order to get the attraction force we

want, we've spent like weeks simulating and then doing real world measurements to validate our simulations and like finding the exact optimal like uh ratio of neodymium mass to pull strength at the exact pull distance we want like there's all these there's all this complexity to it he's like yeah it's really cool to just like have time to do things properly that's cool yeah that's good there's also like the amount of planned obsolescence that's built into a lot of companies. I hate that. It's stupid. Paras, we always have our job listings

up on linusmediagroup.com. A Squarespace site, by the way. Hey, thanks again, Squarespace, for sponsoring the show. Matthew S says, any thoughts on Web 3.0? I'm going to confess, I have no idea what Web 3.0 is. And frankly, I don't care. Web 2.0 was a complete nothing burger. And Web 3.0 will probably be a nothing burger.

It's just, it's branding. It's marketing. It's not, there is no clear transition between Web 1.0 and 2.0 and 3.0. It's all evolving over time. No, I disagree. I disagree. I will not refer to it as Web 3.0.

Also needs to shed its reliance on non-Web 3.0 things that's like a huge problem yep yeah uh wayne m been buying from you since the ncix days glad i can empty my piggy bank of canna bucks and help support one of our own i do wish you had a canadian site um yeah that's fair we will do it at some point but it's like it adds a lot of complexity in terms of accounting and stuff because all of our costs are in us dollars so yeah yeah just doing everything in usd has been helpful do you know what ncx's solution was to that because the exchange rate fluctuates by so much sometimes is we would just adjust our pricing like daily like we come in in the morning and adjust all the pricing on the site that's why the pricing was always oddball that's why a motherboard would be like 97 dollars and

23 cents because it was just converted from usd like oh my so if we're just gonna convert from usd anyway we might as well just show a consistent price on the site was my philosophy yeah uh william i am 36 years old am i too old to go to ltt ltx is i think what he ltx never been to a con before absolutely not you're my age man come on william g i'll see you there and yeah i my my dad not for the last few because you know uh but my dad has been bringing myself and my brother and a bunch of my friends to pax for many years now and he's been having a lot of fun the whole time so yeah i don't think so not at all uh joshua says video idea editing an alder lake build guide on an alder lake pc on an alderwood boat in alder lake good thought good

thought that's uh hey you know that's why that's why we have these conversations. Yep. Also, I ruined my PCIe cable. So could I use an EPS 8-pin connector for my 3070? Would it work? You could jam it in there, but I wouldn't recommend it. The pinout is actually different. Yeah. So EPS 8-pin is 4 12 volts and then 4 grounds. And PCIe 8-pin is actually three 12 volts and five grounds.

So no, you cannot do that. Please do not do that. You will probably brick your graphics card. And we all know those are pretty precious these days. Adam says, happy new year to all of you and your loved ones. Also, Linus, fellow motorcyclist here, do you have plans for LTT riding gear? Seeing your quality standards, i would probably love it technical garments like that are so difficult it's a big

undertaking yeah like honestly i'd say a riding jacket would be a bigger project than the backpack and the backpack's gonna take like a year just liability and it's so niche i don't think so because you can get like stuff certified and stuff, but that's a whole process. Like if we wanted to certify like our back armor and stuff like that, I think there's a whole thing. But then there's going to be different certification bodies in different regions. I mean, there's a reason that stuff costs so much because it's really niche. It's super low volume and it's a ton of work. Yeah.

So I would honestly prefer to just leave that to the specialists. Cameron, in the middle of a house remodel, would you recommend standard surrounds or in-ceiling speakers for the rear speakers? Well, if they're your rears, then I would not recommend putting them into the ceiling. I would recommend putting your overheads in the ceiling. So I was actually interested in this too. Not for myself, but for my dad, actually. How difficult, and he would probably know i

haven't asked him uh i'm hoping he's not watching right now um but how difficult would it be to add in ceiling speakers to like you know a house that isn't currently having exposed ceiling uh depends so like in my living room for example um you know how there's that peak at the front of the house um where part of it is like the server room which house the current one that i actually live at yeah uh okay so my living room the entire front two thirds of it or so and the entire thing along the right is actually has an attic crawl space above it. So when I put in my VR, my VR based stations and I did, I had Brian, the electrician put an outlet in the crawl space and then I just wired them all up to that outlet. When I did that, it was relatively little work.

The only one that was a bit of a hassle is when you're facing the front bay window, the one at the back left. And that's because that one I had to i had to get into the wall space by going through one of the um i forget what it's what it's called but it's basically like the uh oh man whatever it's like above a wall please help me please help me so it's the piece of wood that's above at the top of of of a wall when you frame it so i had to go down into that to get into the wall space and then i had to like kind of fish it over or something like it was that one was a bit tricky but if it's something that everything is completely closed up it can be anywhere from

really easy like say it was an interior wall and they cheaped out on the house and there's no insulation in there you might be able to fish something up the wall poke a small hole fish it over patch a little hole and and you know get it or if it's full of insulation and the ceiling joists are running this way and you might just it might be completely impossible the good news is those like legrand things with the adhesive strip and the little thing they look not that bad but um i mean since in the new place we had all the walls open anyway yeah we obviously went that route yeah but if i was retrofitting a house honestly i would just run those i would just run those things along a baseboard and then just cable tie cable manage them really nicely up and i call it a day yeah okay um nice yogi bavax

don't worry it's coming don't worry it's coming ah fred w says bring back 12 a.m green in the new bottle design we do want to do more. We've got lots of new colors coming. Stay tuned. Burn to Otis. New year, new gear. You guys going to do a fractal torrent water cooling build? Case is sick AF like the newly in the Evo. I hadn't planned to, but it sounds kind of good, actually.

Matthew, I'm a big boy that wears a 4XL normally. I have 10 plus LTT shirts shirts and it all hugs me tight. I badly want a Swacket that fits. Is there any way you guys could source shirts for us big boys? It's coming, okay? So we've got our custom blank shirts sitting in the dock. When we get them, when we deploy them, confirm that they're not going to fall apart in the field.

We're pretty confident, don't worry. But once we confirm for real z's we are going to start working on our lanky boy fits we're going to start working on our chonky boy fits uh we're going to start working on uh like fitted t's for women and all that kind of stuff give us a little bit more time i i ask for your i'm once again asking for your patience here um ralph z would it be possible to add a belt slash waist strap to the backpack at this point it would be possible but we're not going to do it because it's not a hiking bag it's an everyday carry bag i personally wouldn't want them on that backpack yep but i

love them on my hiking bag ryan p hi linus and luke i sold my pixel 6 pro because it charged so slow but i loved the software should i get a 5A or wait for the Samsung S22? I mean, it's hard for me to recommend a Pixel these days. There's people that have them and absolutely love them, but we have a handful of people at the office that just have nothing but problems with them. I have an insane amount of problems with my phone. Yeah, so it's tough.

I don't know what to tell you. The problem with my phone is the phone. That is by far the biggest problem. Okay. And like, I know that might be... The problem with my computer is my computer. It's just, it's a bad computer. It's just like the actual, like someone will call me and my phone...

I mean, I love my car. It's just that the problem with it is the car. Is the car. Yeah. Someone will call me and my phone will just like lock up. Like I have a very hard time actually getting to the call itself. If I have to like input numbers because I'm going through a system or whatever. I have tons of issues with that.

I've like, I don't know. It's just, it's rough. Speaking of phone issues, you know who sucks now? OnePlus. Man, both my wife and son are on OnePlus devices. They absolutely hate them. My son's has been plagued by this well-documented issue where data just doesn't work on TELUS.

You cannot override the, what's it called again? APN. You can't override the apn information trust me guys trust me i know how easy it is supposed to be just trust me the particular device he's on though you cannot manually enter the apn information unless you get this other app that's like shortcut creator pro okay and then you use that to force it to allow you into the editing screen because otherwise the ui will not let you access it and then you have to enter it in like a weird way that's not normal and telus is aware of it oneplus has been aware of it for

months for months and they haven't fixed it and so there's just people whose data is completely bricked that's that's one of the frustrating things about my phone too it's been validating but frustrating it's a huge one of the problems that i look up that i have with it yeah i have lots of problems with it i find massive threads of other people having the same problem i'm just like well okay and it's not it's not it doesn't seem to be everyone yeah but it's a lot of people and then yvonne just has the stupidest issues with her phone like it takes like a solid three or four seconds for her caller ID to work. So she'll just like, who's calling? I don't know.

And it's like, you look at it and you go, okay, how large is the database for this? How long does this lookup take? Are you on a mechanical hard drive in there? I just don't get it anyway so yeah i don't i don't know i don't know what to recommend to you um i've been overall mostly happy with samsung devices i don't know just get an iphone uh but says, I remember a video of yours from years ago where you said you could see AMD's future being bright enough that you'd buy the stock if you weren't an influencer. I did say that.

And I think that worked out pretty well for anyone who bought AMD at that time. Similarly, how do you see Intel's medium to long-term future? You're a good creator, much love. So in this case, my crystal ball investment advice yeah i'm i'm not a professional um i i do not hold positions in either amd or intel because um i apparently break my rules for framework okay with framework i really just believe in the mission that's for realsies it's fair but i don't own any intel i don't own any no microsoft no google nothing like that um so with amd the vision was extremely clear intel had nothing nothing on their

roadmap for years and i knew it and everyone knew it like it wasn't like insider information just intel had nothing their roadmaps were out there and amd had everything on their roadmap and no one cares about consumer but amd had killer stuff on their roadmap that was going to absolutely just annihilate what intel had coming which was nothing in the enterprise space and so it was it was just it was so utterly crystal clear to me that anyone who wasn't a big nerd keeping track of what dr sue was doing over there was probably not onto this yet so it probably wasn't priced into the stock and normies were going to see win after win after win after win they were going to go this company's on fire not realizing that they were

basically competing in a one horse race because intel was just sitting on their butts um and so it was just it was so clear to me i was like this is going to double triple quadruple if i if i if it wasn't an enormous conflict of interest for me i would just i would just go for it because sometimes stocks go up based on the company's actual performance. But that's where we run into trouble because sometimes stocks go up and down based on things that have absolutely nothing to do with the company's performance. Memes! Let's go! Yeah, or you can have a factory flood harming production and all of a sudden the stock goes way up because your business gets way more profitable like what happened to the hard drive guys back in the uh in the early

2010s i guess it would have been back when the thailand floods happened so it's it's complicated right i think intel has an outstanding future i see the kind of investment i see the leadership they have now pat gelsnier it's just total game changer for them i see the kind of openness that they have around communication now like the they talk they've got some swagger it's it's great i love the new intel attitude um i love the investments that i'm seeing we've got a we've got a silicon shortage right there's money to be made and intel is spending hand over fist on new fab capacity. That is, I mean, it's going to drive the world, right? You can't go wrong.

You can't, you cannot make enough wafers. So then the solution is more fabs, more fabs, more fabs, because you're basically just a money printing machine at that point. And they know how to build a fab. They've got plenty of experience. I really like the concept where intel is going to be manufacturing for third parties i think they have an opportunity to be everything that intel is plus

everything that tsmc is rolled into one i see just an incredible future for intel but unlike amd i do not see that intel has no competition right so if you think about it like uh like a sprint right like intel's going they're freaking going but they've got you know guys like shoulder to shoulder with them also going yeah because the yeah because the previous amd race like linus was saying there there was effectively no intel there so now there's running partners and that's the thing is like because stocks don't necessarily have to do with profitability like regardless of whatever else happens intel is going to be making like shed loads of money but that doesn't always drive a stock up right so so it's people might not like the stock yeah people just want to see those those maybe they just like a different stuff they want to see those big w Maybe they just like a different stock. They want to see those big Ws, right?

You want the news cycle in order to drive the stock price up to get normies interested in it. So I... You know what? I'm not a professional. This is not advice. I would probably be buying Intel today if I was going to invest in Intel, but I would not be doing it today if I, if I, you know, was going to invest in

Intel, but I would not be doing it with the same kind of confidence that I would have done for AMD at Computex 2018 or 2019 or whatever it was when I made that video. Because when I made that video, I was like, very sure I would have, I would have comfortably put my entire net worth in AMD at that point, if I had thought that that was an ethical thing to do. And I would have made a lot of money. Tons money but yeah I don't want to talk about that because it's one of those things it's just like I you know I knew like there's so many of those though but then there's also the wins right there's things that you that you do invest in that that work out so you just

got to kind of move on oh yeah no for sure and it's not that I it's not that I didn't do it and and like I I like regret it because I I didn't have the balls it's like i didn't do it because it was not the right thing to do yeah um jeffrey j where's the 80 000 10k lumen sony projector yeah i wanted to yeah i yeah we wanted to do a video about that oh wait well my new theater room oh well no i don't need that for my theater room i we did want to do a video about that, though. Apparently, according to Rob H. from AV Rant, JVC has really good HDR tone mapping, so I'm looking into their products as opposed to Sony's products.

Where are the separate amps? I'm disappointed. Love the channel. Been watching for 10 years. Okay, my theater room is supposed to be high-end reasonable. That's what I'm going for. Jonathan G., when are the stealth desk pads dropping uh no time soon but they will come they will come

uh dominic thanks for the great customer service hey no no freaking problem uh jonathan g see you later uh alexander looking to buy some hardware to run a local server at my house uh probably just storage and plex any recommendations or should I just get something off Craigslist we did a video recently where Anthony showed you how you can turn your old computer into a server it's not particularly energy efficient so that's a concern but given how difficult it is to get your hands on brand new hardware that's affordable yeah might be might be not a bad way to go yeah quality like I would take a quality older power supply over a new crappy one for sure.

So I'm always all about that secondhand market. Taylor Kays asks, what's the difference between the LTT chiller and the new chiller from this month? Oh, I'm glad you asked. Okay, so the original LTT chiller was chilling liquid. So you were chilling a reservoir of water cooling fluid, which was car antifreeze because, or I shouldn't say antifreeze, windshield wiper fluid. So it's

windshield wiper fluid because antifreeze gets kind of jelly and what's the opposite of viscous? So low viscosity, it gets low viscosity and it's really difficult to pump because I think it's the glycol that causes problems. So you use windshield wiper fluid. It's good down, and it's really difficult to pump because I think it's the glycol that causes problems. So you use windshield wiper fluid. It's good down to about minus 20 degrees Celsius or something like that. And then you use a normal pump as long as it can handle the alcohol content in the windshield wiper fluid. So we've got these little giant pumps that are like aquarium pumps.

And it would go around to just like a water block, and you'd have to insulate the lines because they're chilled liquid. So basically it's a water cooling loop but instead of the radiator you've got the evaporator side of an air conditioner submersed in the reservoir. The new one is a phase change like direct to CPU cooler. So instead of the evap being submerged in liquid that gets pumped around to the CPU, the evap is directly bolted on to the CPU. So that's the around to the CPU. The evap is directly bolted onto the CPU. So that's the, that's the difference. More efficient heat transfer. Peter H, could you do a video on the state of current home lab home server self-hosting software? Example Plex, own cloud

home assistant. Yeah. Degooglify your life has been a video in our doc for like ever. We just haven't gone around to it. So yes, we do do need to do that it's just a lot of work alex c in a recent video you mentioned that 3200 mega transfer per second cl16 ram was budget at best or bargain bargain bin at worst do you recommend a higher tier of 3200 uh 3200 cl16 did i say that was budget at best, bargain bin at worst? It's pretty solid. So yeah, no, just go with that. That's fine. Save a buck. I mean, obviously, like, 3200 CL14 would be better. Yeah, I think actually 3200 CL16 has gotten pretty cheap, hasn't it? It's still good. It's still good. It's fine. You'll be fine.

Dominic says, can we get an Anthony video around Rancher, Docker, and other fun? Didn't know that was possible videos. There has to be a point. There has to be a reason to talk about Docker. You're not just going to do a video like about Docker. I think we did a tech quickie about Docker, actually. There has to be a project that makes it make sense to talk about docker and we have talked about docker happy new year luke and the guy who told me to put pennies in wall sockets that's like half the reason all right thank you for that no problem uh link eight says i found my underwear receipt don't really feel it was $50 worth, but COVID shirt is great. Who was the probationary writer on the weird keyboard touchpad with swappable mats? That writer's name was Jesse.

I found my underwear receipt. What are you talking about? I don't know. Okay. There's some weird curated merch messages in here, Luke. I wanted the, I try to keep the questions in, but he had a,

the second part of that was essentially why I was including that in there. Got it. Okay. Yeah. And finally, Andrew B. Hey, Linus and Luke. Loving everything I've gotten so far from LTT store.

Got a mystery shirt, a display t-shirt, case t-shirt. I'm thinking about ordering a WAN hoodie and was wondering if you could show what the inside of the sleeves look like. Oh yeah, sure. We do need more pictures. I know we need some like close-ups we had some people complain about the french terry they're like this is so rough i can't stand it on my skin

but some people have like kind of a sensory sensitivity to this see for me those people might be expecting like a fleecy interior i have a super like hyper sensitivity to fleece that makes me feel really uncomfortable so that's why we use this and i understand that you don't like it but it is not actually a rough material for most people and most people wouldn't notice it but you might have a sensitivity to it so we need to make sure that we have better like macro photography of the of the inside so here's what the inside of the left sleeve looks like you've got your your thumb hole thing. The sleeve construction is kind of bulky. It takes a little while of breaking it in to be able to like roll it up.

And even then it doesn't come up all the way. It's just part of having that sort of thumb hole thing on it. What else is on here? So you've got your interior pocket. It's like a super complex garment to make actually so there's all the the seams on the inside i'm not sure how well you can see that but good old wan hoodie i'm one of the the group that is very on board with the the kind of like terry cloth style interior and anything that's almost like too soft i find kind of almost irritating yeah i don't like

it yeah i also find it not as breathable um whereas these i i manage to wear them even when it's not super cold yeah um all right i think that's pretty much it thank you so much guys for tuning into the wan show really appreciate you all happy new year it might even be the new year already where you're watching from so uh you know ringing it in um you're gonna stay up till midnight do you want to game i don't know if i can game tonight but maybe i mean that probably makes sense yeah maybe we'll see i just stopped caring about new year's like a long time ago yeah that's fair yeah it's kind of just another day yeah bye you guys do the pots and pans thing

maybe when the kids are old oh crap i never oh the screwdriver yeah yeah Maybe when the kids are older they can stay up to the beat. Oh crap, I never, I never knew that the screen was supposed to be like this. Oh the screen is. Yeah, yeah, I didn't. Yeah, so it's like that's my face. And go Redux. And Redux.

Okay, we're back. So this is from the new Ratchet manufacturer. So this is a bad one. You can see it has a lot of play here you can feel it actually you can feel the the horizontal play yeah a little bit of vertical play is normal so like if you pop it out like that's just super normal so this is from the ratchet manufacturer that we want to use we think oh yeah it's pretty solid you can kind of you can ratchet it too it's very like reasonable It's pretty solid.

You can kind of, you can ratchet it too. It's a very like reasonable, understandable amount of movement. Yeah. This one. Yeah. No, that was not a good thing. Doesn't seem as good. It's got a good sound. So yeah, screwdriver, screwdriver is progress.

It's going to take time, but this is, this is pretty close to what should be final i really like i don't know if i've talked to you about this but how it's not screwed on it's it's just like very nicely i guess friction held i'm not magnetic magnetic ah yeah that's why it feels so good yeah it feels great i hate anytime i need a bit okay i gotta I got to unscrew this thing. And then I'm going to lose the cap somewhere. Then I got to try to get that back on. It's just, yeah. Mega Pro has a great mechanism that we love. We just didn't like their handle design.

Okay, okay, bye guys. Bye.