The WAN Show - AMD has GONE MAD... 64 Core Threadripper! - WAN Show June 14, 2019

Episode Date: June 16, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Peter was researching something the other day and one of our one of our videos that was Me on tech wiki like teaching something was in the thread Of like the person teaching something to Peter and I was like, this is nuts Ready? Yep Hey, welcome to the WAN show guys, we've got a great show for you today, I hope. Yeah. I actually haven't seen this guy in like three weeks. Something like that. Yeah, he's been like cavorting about in Asia.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Yeah. Perfectly innocent, though. No weird kinds of tourism. It was Taiwan, not... Yeah, not Thailand. Taiwan. Anyways. Let's roll the intro. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Oh, man. This is not going to be a good show. We are off to a real rough start here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's okay because it's not about how you start. It's about the big finish.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Would you believe I'm trying to hire a new writing staff? Would you believe that? Is part of the process how many dick jokes you can come up with during the interview? No, no, definitely not. There are bonus points for saying that they think I'm funny, though. Only one person did it today. So, you know, I want to commend that one individual on their honesty. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah. I want to commend them on their honesty because everyone else, they're like closet thinking I'm funny because I know everyone thinks I'm funny. Of course. Yeah, not so much. All right. Fine. Fair. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Yeah. No, I'm actually finally finishing up the writer search that I started four months ago or something like that. I've been traveling so much that I just have not had time to do it properly. And I would rather just have it take too long and go through everyone fairly versus, you know, trying to spread it out over, you know, many weeks. And then like the people that I evaluated at the beginning, maybe I'm not using the same standards as the one at the end. trying to spread it out over many weeks. And then the people that I evaluated at the beginning, maybe I'm not using the same standards as the one at the end. I wanted to be able to sit down and do it in big chunks.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And so we've started our interviews. We're not quite done interviews yet, but we're looking to make a decision pretty soon. So we're going to be increasing the writing team size here size here by like 40 60 i don't know how many people you hire math is not a strong point two to three oh wow i thought this was one position no holy cow yeah two to three are you that i've are you expanding channels because that's a lot of writers to add on. So we haven't talked about anything yet. Okay. But actually, so you don't attend Linus Media Group Monday morning meetings anymore because
Starting point is 00:03:11 you are not an employee of Linus Media Group. I still get the emails and I poke through them sometimes just to make sure like the power isn't going to go out or something without me knowing. I actually gave like a big speech on Monday. So I was talking about, or wait, should we talk about some of the topics we're going to have today or should I just get right in? You know what, I'll get right into this. We'll talk about topics in a minute. Yeah, this is pretty on point. So I was talking about some of the changes that have been taking place on YouTube lately and how they've affected our
Starting point is 00:03:37 channels. You know, YouTube won't admit anything. I've had correspondence with them, not just with my partner manager, who is quite a senior member of the team and who I believe when he tells me, you know, nothing changes or nothing has changed or that it's machine learning and nothing discrete was changed. But that doesn't mean that it isn't always learning and always changing. And I've even gone higher up the food chain than that. And everyone insists we didn't change anything, we tweaked no dials, but I just, I have a hard time, I have a hard time buying it because we know from the other things that YouTube says, like I went to Brandcast, and YouTube's talking about, you know, raising authoritative voices, when it comes to trying to make sure that they're a platform that promotes credible information.
Starting point is 00:04:29 But can you raise an authoritative voice without suppressing another one? You're saying, yes, you can. No, I'm agreeing with you. Ah, I see. Because, no, you can't. You can't elevate something without pushing something else down. That's just the way it works. Especially when, sorry to jump in here for a second,
Starting point is 00:04:48 but YouTube kind of at this point has the population. They don't really have a ton of expanding more to do other than people getting internet or people getting to the age where they can watch their own YouTube. Fun fact, they're no longer going to report on unique unique visitor increases anymore interesting you know why because they're already over two billion a month so like yeah so like who do you go for nothing that they do can sound impressive and sound like growth to their shareholders anymore so
Starting point is 00:05:21 they're just like this is have everyone we're doing great we're just like we can't talk about it anymore though because like a 0.1 improvement in fairness to us it's still 20 million more people but it's like it doesn't sound very marketable yeah right yeah so like if you're if you're taking this platform that like yes it's expanding don't get me wrong here i understand that but if you're taking this platform that has like this kind of set amount of users if you're i understand it's not how it works just hold. But if you're taking this platform that has like this kind of set amount of users, if you're, I understand it's not how it works. Just hold on. If you start pumping someone, you have to reduce push for other people. There's only so many eyeballs. And you know, there's been problems on YouTube. I understand there's more eyeballs all the time. That have
Starting point is 00:06:00 been identified. Like the black hole thing with conspiracy theories or flat earth or fake moon landing or anti-vaxxing or whatever else. You know, there's things that are relatively low-hanging fruit that... Hold on a second. One moment, please. Technical difficulties. Brr-brr-brr-brr-brr. Um... Technical difficulties.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Brr-brr-brr-brr-brr. Vax. Um... I'm just checking to see if... Okay, cool. So in February, YouTube demonetized anti-vax channels. Facebook, YouTube to suppress anti-vaxxer content. This was from PCMag in March 7th.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Good. So there's other sources. So I don't have to be the source for this. So YouTube is suppressing anti-vax content. Um... Now, so there's... Oh, no. So YouTube is suppressing anti-vax content. Oh, no. So there's certain things that I completely agree with because that's incredibly dangerous.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Anti-vax content, not suppressing it because anti-vax content is super stupid. So there's things that I agree with, but there's also potential collateral damage. So one of the problems that was identified on social media in general, not just on YouTube, is that once you watch, like if you go, okay, for lols, you know, you show a friend some stupid Tai Lopez video because you're like, that guy, you know, the guy with the knowledge, you know, remember that guy? And they're like, no, no. I'm like, this guy. All of a sudden, you know, remember that guy? And they're like, no, no. I'm like this guy, all of a sudden you're, you're recommended your ads. It's just full of all those bloody get rich quick YouTube gurus. And it's so obnoxious. Okay. So there's this problem
Starting point is 00:07:38 that's been identified in online, on social media in general with echo chambers and with one search for a given topic all of a sudden just you might slightly be interested in this yeah or not just interested even just curious and all of a sudden it's it's put in front of your face and when you're when you're not as media savvy you might just see something on facebook and go, oh, it's credible. It's printed in black and white. It's the craziest thing in the world. But that same just because something is printed in black and white doesn't mean that it's true. That same education that people have been trying to give to people since the 1800s is still a big deal today. And so what happens is you end up in this kind of this death spiral of fake moon landing,
Starting point is 00:08:33 flat earth, whatever, just from watching one stupid video. And a lot of the people that perpetuate these conspiracy theories speak in a way that may not sound authoritative to you, the educated viewer, but to other people apparently does. So anyway, one of the theories. It might not sound believable, but they're trying to be authoritative almost always. So it makes sense that it might sound that way. Exactly. It's the intent. Exactly. So one of the theories we had was that in order to prevent, you know, these kinds of echo chambery things from happening, YouTube might have been de-emphasizing more niche content and then pumping stuff that's safer.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Now, that was the theory. And we were kind of like, oh, well, we're tech. We're kind of niche. We're also a niche within tech. Like, quite frankly, a lot of the content that we upload would have absolutely no place on a more mainstream tech content channel like Marquez's. Like, come on. It wouldn't make sense for him to do. His audience wouldn't like it and it it makes sense that it goes up on our channel gets fewer views etc etc etc um so we were looking at it
Starting point is 00:09:53 going okay well maybe part of this is we're just more niche and so people because we noticed the biggest dip in viewership was on our back catalog so maybe what's happening is instead of people watching one of our new videos and then getting bombarded with our massive back catalog of 4,000 videos, something that had a huge benefit for us and generated a lot of subscribers, maybe instead of that, well, they're being fed some Marques and some Austin and some Gamers Nexus and whatever else. And to be clear, we love all those guys and that's cool, fine, whatever. But it definitely did have an impact on our viewership over the course of this year.
Starting point is 00:10:31 So from there, I actually had some really great conversations at the YouTube Creator Summit and Derek from Veritasium posted a great video. Did you watch that, by the way? Yeah, I did. Posted a great video on his theory about why his Shade Ball video went viral. And basically his theory, it's funny because in some ways I give YouTube so much credit. Like the Puppet Masters have all these different strings they're pulling on. His theory was so simple that I forget whose razor it is, where the simplest solution is.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Occam? Is that Occam's razor? I where the simplest solution is is that Occam's razor? I think so. Anyway, the simplest solution is usually the correct one. His theory was as simple as YouTube has taken the the click-through ratio that you get with your with the the clickiness of your title and thumbnail and it has shifted the axis so that a smaller difference in click-through ratio gives it a greater proportion, more promotion on the site,
Starting point is 00:11:33 and then a small difference the other way gives you way less. So instead of it being kind of linear, if your click-through ratio is great, you're like way up here, and if your click-through ratio sucks, you're like way down here um so that was another interesting theory because we have also had our click-through ratio decrease this year as we've moved away from more clickbaity titles and clickbaity thumbnails
Starting point is 00:11:56 which sucks but it's something that we've committed to our audience that we're going to do it just means that we'd really appreciate if you guys clicked the bell and then watch the video right away. That actually makes a huge difference. Even if you're not going to actually watch it right now, if you drop what you're doing, start the video, put your phone back in your pocket. I don't care. But if you just click
Starting point is 00:12:17 and just go about the rest of your day, go watch it later, doesn't matter. That initial click-through ratio basically determines everything about how that video is gonna perform as far as we can tell that's Derek's theory and it's so simple it might just be right yeah so anyway LTT has actually struggled in terms of viewership this year it's actually it's back up in the last four to six weeks or so and we are tracking a really good
Starting point is 00:12:45 direction right now. But coming back to our all hands meeting this Monday, this was a very, very long story. Wow, we're 12 minutes in. I'm engaged right now. Coming back to our all hands meeting this Monday, I actually did stand up in front of everyone. You know when I stand up during the Monday morning meeting, there's usually a little serious. Good news, everyone. I basically went, went look this is something that i've really struggled with not just um professionally but also personally you know trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:13:14 what am i doing what am i doing wrong what can i do to fix it um does the audience just plain not like me anymore um is is is pc hardware losing its sex appeal? Like I was trying to identify what it was because unless I know what the problem is, I cannot fix it. And what I ultimately came to was that there was a combination of audience sentiment things that did need to be addressed, you know, talking to the audience directly about things like doing less offensive thumbnails and titles, that kind of thing, you know, making sure we're appending the brand and the product, wherever that makes sense, things like that. I thought that was part of it. I also thought that some kind of change, whether a manual change or an algorithmic change on YouTube
Starting point is 00:13:57 side was part of the problem. And then the bigger conclusion that I came to is that maybe if we build our business correctly, it just doesn't matter. Because where LTT has struggled this year, TechLinked has actually picked up nearly all of the lost watch time, nearly all of the lost viewership and lost revenue. And I kind of went, well, TechLinked was an accident. After the failure of Channel Superfun and a bit of a stagnation period that we went through with TechQuickie, to be clear, TechQuickie is going really well right now. So massive shout out to John and Dennis. Yay.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So after kind of a stagnation period for TechQuickie, I was full, like, triple down mode on LTT. I was like, okay, we just throw all the... LTT has literally 10 times as much staff as any other channel, even now. But what I realized is if I can't ultimately control it, well, something that I can control is this diversification strategy. So TechLink happened by accident. My homeboy, Riley, lost his job because his company went out of business. And I was like, yo, dog, I've been trying to hire you forever, you twit. Get out of the dumpster.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Get out of the dumpster. Come on. Get on over here. Come on. And, you know, Riley, he's driven to do the tech news. I think we all know this. He's driven to do the tech news. I think we all know this. He's driven to do the tech news for the people. So we created TechLinked.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And TechLinked was an accidental complete success. Like, that channel is freaking awesome. I get my tech news from TechLinked. Like, it's awesome. You get your tech news from TechLinked? Nice. I genuinely watch it all the time. Yeah like it's awesome you get your tech news from nice i genuinely watch it all the time i just yeah it's great and clearly a lot of people do tech linked regularly gets
Starting point is 00:15:51 half a million views a video even when it only has like 700 800 000 subscribers like it's outstanding yeah it's a great show um anyway so i was looking at it going well, maybe we're just maybe we're just thinking about this too narrowly maybe the answer here is to broaden the net instead because that way every time Tech linked struggles a little bit and you know needs a needs a fresh a fresh coat of lipstick or you know every time LTT Loses its its groove or every time LTT loses its groove or every time TechQuickie runs out of things people need explained, as if that'll ever happen,
Starting point is 00:16:30 something else can carry some of that weight and we can spread things out. The other really cool thing about TechLinked is that it doesn't rely on me. At the beginning of TechLinked, I was far and away the top performing host on that channel in terms of the views that each video would get like of the top 10 I was all but one of them and then of the bottom 10
Starting point is 00:16:50 I wasn't in any of them like I was clearly my face was driving more clicks Really interesting fact over the last couple of months. I've actually been on the bottom half Which I think is great that is Because it means that Riley and James, I mean, we've had Dennis host, we've had Alex host, we've had Yvonne host. It means that people are connecting with the team and with the brand,
Starting point is 00:17:17 not just Linus Sebastian, the person who quite honestly can't do everything forever. And so basically I had this sort of magic moment where I went, okay, LTT is starting to recover, which is good. We can hire. Dodge a bullet there. But also, maybe it's not the future.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Maybe it's just one part of the future and we can bring people more types of tech content that bring them happiness in other tech ways. And that's been one of the great things about the channels that you guys have expanded is like if you liked Linus Tech Tips and you don't want an education channel or a news channel or a channel of us playing with weird toys and being very cringy, you could just keep watching Linus Tech Tips. It didn't matter. And Linus Tech Tips will, as far as I can tell, carry on just as well as it has.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And other channels will keep carrying on. And you're maybe expanding. What are you expanding to? Are you saying at this point? I don't know. So it was really interesting because normally when you enter the hiring process, you might go in and say, I really want someone with JavaScript experience or whatever. You set out what your job requirements are.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah. Well, I am just looking at all my applicants and I'm figuring out who the best applicants are. And then I will create programming it's actually there's some a little bit larger companies than flow plane uh that do this in a lot of different spaces you try to find people that are extremely talented and passionate and you go like welp I'll make you super valuable let's go uh it's it's actually if you can manage it it's a very apparently cool way to do things so not necessarily necessarily just the new people, but there's people who are already here that the new people could come and alleviate some of their workload. And maybe they could pursue a passion project.
Starting point is 00:19:15 James and Riley have been really into TalkLinked. Do you know TalkLinked? Yeah. Okay. Totally different from TechLinked because it's just one topic instead of many topics. And it's long instead of short? Yeah. Okay, totally different from TechLinked because it's just one topic instead of many topics, and it's long instead of short. Yeah. And honestly, the first episode, kind of rough.
Starting point is 00:19:34 The second episode, a lot better. And I happened to eavesdrop on sort of a debrief conversation, and they had identified basically everything that they needed to fix, and they're iterating iterating and they're they're going through that creative process and i'm looking at it going like wow like this is great this is me witnessing the machine working yeah um and but they don't have time right so james has produced i think four ltts in the last two weeks because jake's been on vacation um anthony's been tied up preparing some of our really cool boots that we're gonna have for LTX He's got ten years of PC gaming He has ten gaming rigs to configure build and benchmark and set up demos on like
Starting point is 00:20:16 So he's been super busy Alex has been tied up. He's actually putting together our like makerspace next door right now Yeah, like so James we've been leaning on him really heavily, but that means he hasn't had a ton of time for talk length. So, you know, we could bring these new people in. They could lift some of that load, and then we can kind of spread things out. We can figure out what makes sense. Make each person a little bit more agile.
Starting point is 00:20:38 As long as we keep a really great team dynamic here and as long as we stay passionate about tech, whether it's news, you know, news stay passionate about tech, whether it's news news is important Riley whether it's news or whether it's something else yeah I guess yeah we're going to do more stuff though
Starting point is 00:20:55 you know I'm not done yet cool you know I was thinking about it not thinking about actually quitting but thinking about phasing myself out you know i was thinking about it not thinking about actually quitting but thinking about phasing myself out um you know it's you've been sort of talking about it for a while yep i i was i was really thinking about it i mean you and i chatted about it back at ces i think um and i've just been kind of considering whether like whether i'm done um you know and when the when the channel's not
Starting point is 00:21:22 performing well because at the end of the day it's not up to me it's it's not up to you it's not up to the rest of my staff like you know everyone here could go oh no Linus you know we really want you to keep being the face of the company in the face of the channel and I'd go well yeah that's great but if the audience doesn't want it then like it's a nice sentiment but it actually doesn't matter at all you could pivot to uh hear me out you could pivot to like vlogs of you doing hey hold on hold on i'm not saying daily vlogs or anything just what am i gonna be a family vlogger no that actually isn't where i was gonna go with it hold on hold on
Starting point is 00:22:06 you really enjoyed your like rc car hacking electronic stuff yeah the gun's going a little bit further away um just like you experimenting with technologies in ways that you actually want to and just like fumbling around and trying different things instead of trying to go with this like hyper entertainment or hyper news or whatever I know but having a little bit even more free form and being like off the line of Sectives Channel so it could be like
Starting point is 00:22:35 pretty separated if you wanted to here's one problem with that at 4000 videos in I've run most of the experiments that I was kind of like wondering about when I was in high school. I have so much more resources now than I used to.
Starting point is 00:22:51 You know, one of the things I really struggle with right now is just having too much resources. Like people got mad when I upgraded my gaming rig. So there's a couple problems. One is that people don't think critically sometimes. So they were like, why are you calling a Titan graphics card slow? So the thing is, depending on what
Starting point is 00:23:11 generation of Titan is, it could be really slow by today's standards. It is. It could be literally the fastest card on the market, all the way down to slower than literally anything that NVIDIA currently sells. Like, ugh. the way down to slower than literally anything that nvidia currently sells and then you know you've got people that are frustrated because for me upgrading my personal rig is as simple as showing up at nvidia for a sponsored project of all things and saying that
Starting point is 00:23:40 i've been finally finding time to play games lately, but Anno 1800 is like chugging on my system and then just being like, what? I'll put a graphics card in the mail. People get mad about that. And I get it, but the flip side of it is the alternative, I guess, is for me to just not tell you. Because you could be an influencer one twentieth my size.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And I use the term influencer as like the I word. So let's say an online content creator, literally 1 20th my size. And getting something like a graphics card sent to you is easy. I mean, even when we started Linus Tech Tips, we had 200,000 subscribers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And one of the first videos that Luke worked on when we went indie was our review of the first GTX Titan. Yeah. Like, it's not like this is new. So the only... So if you're going to get mad
Starting point is 00:24:39 at me about it, you're well within your rights, but just understand that anyone else out there who is not telling you that they got sampled a card for complete for doing a project or whatever the case may be is probably just not telling you there are exceptions but we believe in transparency if nothing else also it's not for my personal rig it's for a video There you have it. So there's your full disclosure
Starting point is 00:25:07 Hey guys I'm working on my personal rig this video was sent or this video card was sent over by Nvidia This motherboard was sent over by gigabyte That's it. We are we are fulfilling our obligation And so if you want me to just say hey i'm working on my personal rig here's the parts i'm using i could do that but i just don't i don't think that's good enough and not just i don't think that's good enough the fcc doesn't think that's good enough so i mean they don't have any jurisdiction here yeah at all and so but it's a good idea to i could just not but for my part i would rather
Starting point is 00:25:43 take a little bit of negativity and just deal with it and there's people that are gonna be resentful but I guess my response to them would be you know where's your channel where's your investment in building something so that people want you to show their products on it like I'm not saying that anyone can be a YouTuber. I'm just saying that you literally won't know unless you're, like, really trying to do it. Give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And then should people resent you if someone sends you a graphics card? I don't know. Have you heard Taylor Swift's new song? I haven't. Oh, boy. Do I sound like her? Please don't tell me I sound like her. No new song? I haven't. Oh, boy. Do I sound like her? Please don't tell me I sound like her.
Starting point is 00:26:27 No, actually. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Stop it. That actually ties in really well to what I would say right there, is the title of the song is You Need to Calm Down. And then a part of the lyrics is like, you need to calm down, you're being too loud.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And the whole thing is just like, leave it alone. And this is, I think, one of those kind of situations where like he's he's telling you I have seen a lot of creators do a lot worse things where they hide it or there's something going on in the background and they're not communicating that stuff him saying like hey they sent me this card it doesn't mean go buy this card it's the best one no and I didn't say that no I have never recommended a Titan to anyone no NVIDIA knows that they still sent it yeah it means hey I got this card I might as well use it it's gonna fulfill all the things I really care about sweet don't it's literally the
Starting point is 00:27:19 fastest card so cool put it in I don't know and people are all over the map because on the one hand you've got people mad that I'm putting in an RTX Titan. And then on the other hand, you've got people mad that, like, what kind of tech influencer are you? You're not even running SLI. Yeah, yeah. You've got too many people in your audience at a certain point. You can't please everyone. Yeah, yeah, exactly. This shirt is kind of pleasing, though. We should probably do ad spots. Oh, right and surely you mean that sponsor spots Oh, right. Oh because our
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Starting point is 00:31:49 Honestly, these are really sharp. That's cool. These are like, yeah, these are pretty cool. You know how people used to get those metal car signs in their garage? Metal tech signs in your computer room or where you have your computer. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That's cool yeah this one made me like a tiny bit sad because you're not on it yeah i checked yeah i was curious all right back to the show ladies and gentlemen why don't we talk about tech topic um yeah why don't we talk about the 64 core thread ripper yes so this is a rumor right now rumor status uh this was posted by clueless gamer on the forum it's definitely a rumor wccf tech they claim amd is working on a 64 core 128 thread thread ripper part for launch in Q4 of 2019. Now, this was something that was very recently rumored to be going away altogether.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Threadripper was like on AMD's roadmap, and then it was like- And then kinda off. Not on it. Yeah. And then now there's a rumor that we're still gonna have it. I'm gonna say something unpopular.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Ooh. I don't think this skew makes any sense. I think AMD has such a strong and i am take everything i'm saying as a rumor and the reason for that is that we haven't actually seen third gen ryzen performance yet yeah so i am oh we're coming back to this I am assuming based on AMD's numbers that they have provided That they are not lying. Yeah, and that third gen riser kicks ass riser That's a riser riser risin. Sorry. All right, so I am assuming that they are not bull crapping around I Kind of like riser. I want't you make a riser product line
Starting point is 00:33:46 all right enough here just twist a little go ahead take it oh thanks yeah looked like a nipple pinch anyway maybe it was so i'm i'm going based on that third gen risin is going to be awesome so here's my here's my counter to Threadripper pitch. You already have 32 core Threadripper, okay? That already exists. On the Ryzen 3rd Gen mainstream platform, you are already going to have a 16 core 32 thread chip. I would, I would postulate that for the vast majority of workloads that is already more than enough. I realize I'm changing my tune a lot because back when Intel was determined to keep quad core the maximum for mainstream forever I was like yo where's my cores
Starting point is 00:34:45 for mainstream I absolutely think so for some scenarios where you're trying to build out like server list clouds and stuff by epic yeah I just it feels completely unnecessary
Starting point is 00:35:01 because Ryzen whatever it is 30 90 something 90 what's the future of their epic what's the future of the epic processors 30 what no epic is uh epic is going to be on there so Zen 2 epic is going to be called Vroom okay it's coming okay very soon okay so So I could still see them doing Threadripper as a 20, 24, 32 lineup or something like that. But that's three SKUs. It's hard to say if it's worth maintaining a completely separate socket and chipset platform for it. Because it's already like, it's so niche. The only reason I could think of to do it would be to just put the screws to Intel.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But even then, it's totally unnecessary. I think they already kind of have. Intel isn't going to have anything to compete with even a 32 core Threadripper within the next 18 months as far as I can tell. Yeah. So this is just when do we get to the point where we're honestly just giving up too much of our single threaded clock speed for the sake of having more cores and if we really need 64 cores why aren't we just getting an epic? There is very very little that i can think of even for a workstation workload that needs 64
Starting point is 00:36:28 cpu cores i hadn't heard the rome you call that rome like r-o-m-e yeah yeah okay i hadn't heard the rome news so it sort of made sense to me is there specs out for what rome will be up to 64 cores so basically they're just repurposing rome a workstation product. Which, I mean, I guess if you're building the damn thing anyway, okay. Maybe if it's easy? It doesn't make a, yeah. The thing about Threadripper though is it's overclockable. I don't know that I would recommend overclocking a 64 core processor. So it just feels like the product without a customer.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Because you're either a little bit lower than it, probably, or a little bit higher than it, probably. It's fairly unlikely you'll be right on. So if I'm AMD and there's any truth to... It would be fun. The rumors here, yeah. So, okay. If this isn't about building a practical product,
Starting point is 00:37:24 and you don't actually care if anybody buys it, here's what's going to happen. Based on what we know, what we're taking AMD's word for, so far with third-gen Ryzen, it should have excellent performance per watt. The sustained clock speeds that it can hit should be pretty decent, even with high core counts. And its IPC improvements over last gen zen
Starting point is 00:37:48 are looking pretty good yeah so with all of that in mind intel's highest end and like it's like full desperation move that w series 28 core xeon that the overclockable one that you can put on there's like three motherboards that exist for it or whatever um so so intel's best possible response without bringing back like skull trail dual socket overclockable systems is 28 cores so what we know then is that if amd goes 32 core which is what they currently have and what they could easily and comfortably do with a next-gen Threadripper, they will probably beat that processor by a little. So when you're looking at the review, the Halo product versus the Halo product, AMD might be on top, but like by a bit,
Starting point is 00:38:41 and it might depend on if it's like an AVX 512 enabled workload or whatever if AMD releases a 64 core processor they know that for the first time ever no no they beat Intel to do a class they beat them to do a core so for the first time in over 10 years they know that they will not just beat Intel at the top of the benchmark leaderboards. They will absolutely fucking destroy them. Pardon my French. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:13 We don't have the button. Yeah, I need the button. Like, we're talking there will be benchmark graphs where people are showing, you know, video encoding in FFmpeg or Cinebench where AMD literally is outperforming Intel by a factor of two. That's the only reason that I can think of for them to do it.
Starting point is 00:39:35 It sounds fun. And with how successful they've been for the last little while, maybe that type of fun is becoming worth it, where the last round of processors from AMD, last little while maybe that type of fun is becoming worth it where like the uh the the last round of processors from amd i would not have necessarily said the same thing well now that they're selling anything at a profit they actually have some money to play with yeah yeah so that helps yeah it's cool though i don't know i've been very happy with all this amd stuff um and with constant security vulnerability problems coming from intel um it's it's a it's good time over in that camp so the
Starting point is 00:40:12 rumor is that um it would be socket compatible with existing tr4 motherboards after a bios update um there's speculation that it's probably a 14 nanometer part we're expecting it to be priced in the $2,500 to $3,000 range and they're aiming for mid Q4 2019 because they have something planned for CES next year or at the very latest January 2020 actually I don't even know if these are Zen 2 cores which is interesting, because if they're not 7 nanometer, they wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:40:47 as far as I know. Forgive me for not having all the details about this rumored product, but we'll see how it goes. Either way, the only way that I could see this making any sense for AMD is just as a gigantic FU.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Which is fun! Which is fun. Which is fun. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Speaking of fun, Xbox Scarlett announced. You want to talk about this one? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:41:15 This is awesome, by the way. And if you're in the computer space, you'll be like, no, consoles suck. No, it's awesome. Shut up. Because every time new, really awesome consoles come out, everything steps up a little bit. Because developers are going to be making for compatibility across the platform, and you want this. This is
Starting point is 00:41:31 good for you. This is very good for you. Also, consoles are basically computers now. Yes, extremely much so. So ports don't suck so hard. Yeah. It's great. It's actually fantastic. Microsoft announced it at E3 2019. There's a bunch Anyways, Microsoft announced it at E3 2019. There's a bunch of stuff that got announced at E3 2019.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Apparently, we'll have a physical disk drive, which is actually important to know because they've been talking about maybe not having that for a little while now. Can I interrupt for a sec here? This is a really important comment. Clash in Cube India says, Linus got a great body.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Thank you. Damn. Go ahead. I did? Auto completes for you and I on YouTube recently just out of pure pure curiosity. Yeah, and one of your top ones is topless Really or shirtless or something but effectively without a shirt on that's uncomfortable. So there you go. Cool Nobody should want to see my weird chest hair tuft That's uncomfortable. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Cool. Nobody should want to see my weird chest hair tuft. It's a custom designed AMD processor using Zen 2 and Navi architectures. Sexy. From a pure processing perspective, it's four times more powerful. And while I was reading this, I expected it to say the original Xbox One, but it's the Xbox One X, which is, that's actually like, that's cool. Capable of running games at 120 hertz frame rates.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Now, I want to jump in for a second and say that that is a BS way to talk about the power of a game console. That's true. What game are we talking about? At what texture resolution? At what detail level? At what draw distance? And this is going to apply to the next note as well Keynote says 8k compatibility for a brief second like yeah, is it a picture this stuff makes me so mad
Starting point is 00:43:13 So there were people posting again on the personal rig update one they're like PC gaming is a joke because even with the Titan RTX. It was still only running at 70 to 85 frames per second As if it's that simple It depends on how much you cranked up the details you remember the console comparison video We did yeah at the last big launch. That was technically like the last big console launch It's just been forever you guys should do another one Yeah, we totally should. I was also thinking of doing a video.
Starting point is 00:43:47 A lot better. Doing a video called Console Marketing is Stupid. Okay, but PC marketing is really stupid too. I know, but console marketing VR ready! SLI ready! That's really stupid and I don't have to accept that.
Starting point is 00:44:04 So the reason that marketing a console as 4k is that Everything has trade-offs. I could run games at 4k on a six-year-old computer What games? At what image quality settings pong? Exactly I could, I could do whatever, this laptop, I could run a game at 4k 120 frames per second.
Starting point is 00:44:35 If I don't tell you what game it is and what it freaking looks like, that is not meaningful information. It's like, it's like having a multi-variable algebra equation and you've only got one number and everything else You've got variables X Y Z A B C gamma frickin It's all over the place. It would be cool if they tried to maybe use a first-party title Like for Microsoft pretty easy one to call out Halo if they were like halo and more will run at 120. Sure. Or something.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Anyway, I'll let you finish. I'm going to let you finish, but I'm going to let you finish. Apparently there's a quote saying, we're seeing over 40 times performance increase over the current generation. From the SSD. And, yeah. Yeah, yeah. To be, yeah, I probably should have said that.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Because the SSD is being used as virtual RAM, so it's going to share a little bit. And moving through worlds without waiting for screens to load is going to maybe happen sometimes with some games. That's so funny, too, because they're like, yeah, what an innovation, an SSD. Meanwhile, we're like, hey. Yeah, you mean like when people were upgrading for freaking like wow burning
Starting point is 00:45:47 crusade and to be clear people have been manually upgrading consoles with ssds for a bit too it's it's honestly like burning crusade days that was kind of when people started upgrading and putting wow on an ssd so that they wouldn't load when they went but you're like come on um halo infinite is confirmed as a launch title but also to be clear halo infinite's coming to load when they went between, like, come on! Halo Infinite is confirmed as a launch title, but also to be clear, Halo Infinite's coming to PC and Xbox One X as well. It's possible
Starting point is 00:46:16 that a new Elite controller, a Series 2... No, that's available for pre-order. That's coming. I'm excited. I love my Elite controller. Except when it broke. It's actually the only Xbox controller I'm excited. I love my Elite controller. Except when it broke. It's actually the only Xbox controller I've ever had break is my Elite controller. That's kind of sad. How did it break?
Starting point is 00:46:32 D-pad. So I was playing CrossCode and used the D-pad to switch between the different elements. Okay, I'm starting soon. You said something about... Sorry. You said something about keyboard and mouse versus controller. Should I keyboard and mouse it? It's... I think it okay, I've never actually played it on keyboard and mouse So the only experience I have with the keyboard mouse controls I
Starting point is 00:46:55 didn't even realize you could play it with keyboard mouse because it's like a Top down sprite based RPG, and I just grabbed a controller the first time I played it cuz I was like duh This is that's usually how you do that. Yeah yeah so the only reason I even know you can control it with keyboard and mouse it's because I was sitting on a plane and I kept like accidentally like aiming and firing at stuff and I didn't realize I was touching my touchpad with the back of my hand so I kind of played around with it a little bit and it seems like particularly for quickly aiming keyboard and mouse would be way better yeah that makes sense but it's kind of a rule i really enjoyed like the laid-back console experience of using a controller with it and like you're good enough with a controller that
Starting point is 00:47:40 it probably shouldn't matter okay yeah like i could do it i beat the game no problem there were challenging parts but like i could do it. I beat the game, no problem. There were challenging parts, but, like, I could do it, and it wasn't so... Did you ever play Psychonauts? No, I played a demo. Okay. Count. So Psychonauts, towards the end, is, like...
Starting point is 00:47:59 It's, like, kind of unfair. Like, there's some really frustrating parts that are like... I'd say amazing game design for a very skilled player. You should be able to beat it on the first try if you're really, really good, unless it's Dark Souls or something. Obviously, there are games that are designed to just kick your ass over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. But I'd say most games, if they're balanced correctly, if you're really, really good and you are mastering every new skill as it comes at you, you should be able to beat a level on the first try. Like, Psychonauts, like, really, really tough. So I'd say CrossCode is everything is beatable on the first try if you've been paying really close attention with a controller. I never felt like it was totally unfair. yeah all right fair um current xbox one accessories will work with scarlet which is cool and apparently launching holiday 2020 so we're still quite a ways out but yeah yes jim this is bacon turkey. It's pretty legit, actually.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But, yeah, that's Scarlet. It's not coming for a while, but it's very exciting. It's cool. We should maybe stay on the Microsoft path and jump down to the Xbox Game Pass for PC. Mmm. Yeah. So, basically, it's like a steam like thingy
Starting point is 00:49:27 But it's a subscription based. It's ten bucks a month or five bucks a month if you sign up during the beta or $1 if you sign up now, but it's ten bucks a month over a hundred PC games available at launch And it's not game streaming. So you still need to like download the game and play it off your computer and stuff so here's some of the games here I'll just screen share with you guys but oop doop doop three hundred and thirty three results honestly as with pretty much all of these things so here let's filter by PC games. Sure. Hooray. 108 results. That's more like it.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. A lot of it is stuff I have never heard of. Forza! Sea of Thieves. Years of War. Bunch of first party stuff. I think the most interesting things in here are going to be the first party games. Other than that, they're going to be mostly things that could have been very cheap if you bought them on certain sales. Or things that you're probably are going to be the first party games. Other than that, they're going to be mostly things that could have been very cheap if you bought them on certain sales
Starting point is 00:50:27 or things that you're probably not going to be super interested in just because unless you're like equally interested in literally every game genre, because there's a whole bunch of different game genres. Maybe this is a really good game. Is it wrong if I'm a little offended by someone trying to capitalize on Mr. Rogers? He was so against that kind of stuff. that supposed to be hello neighbor come on wearing
Starting point is 00:50:49 like a plaid sweater vest oh it's a super creepy game though it's it has nothing to do with i hear you i see where you're going you can't say hello neighbor without it yeah being fred rogers i got you but you're trying to like i've never played it but. But you're trying to, like... I've never played it, but I think you're trying to, like, break into that guy's house. And he's trying to, like, catch you. And then... Yeah. I think he's holding a shovel because he attacks you or something. Broforce.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Highly recommended. Broforce is amazing! Luke and I played through it a little while ago. Slay the Spire is great. Very good. I actually really enjoyed Lucky's Tale. Really? Yeah. Did you not?
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't think I played it very much oh yeah it was like it's like the one thing that I ever played on the Oculus except I didn't I ran it on the Vive but I had bought an Oculus so I don't even care yeah so because I bought one for LMG so I
Starting point is 00:51:43 ran that on an unauthorized system with no qualms. It's interesting. So we called this so hard, and we got so much crap for it. Mostly me, I guess. Not the crap. I mean the calling. Yeah, yeah. But VR, you guys didn't even cover the new stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Did anyone complain? Yes, actually. I need to cover the quest. People are mad. But not the Rift S. Who cares about the Rift S? There you go. Oof. No one cared about the Rift S. People do care about the quest. The quest seems to be doing pretty well.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I'm really skeptical about it, but I am trying to maintain an open mind. I will... I was going to come here and say I understand, but I think you should cover it because I don't think line of sect it should lose The foothold of covering VR content because I think it will be really big at some time at some point in time Crosscodes in game pass. Hey, hey already bought it. So whatever that's cheap. Yeah, I Love that game so much. i wouldn't it's not like i'm gonna play it again
Starting point is 00:52:47 it's hard not necessarily recommend it it's not oh no i'll recommend it okay no problem it's not my favorite game or anything but if i'm being really honest i think it's better than a lot of the rpgs that i treasure having played as a kid. Oh. Like, I think it's objectively better. They've got some nostalgia glasses going on? Yeah. Like, I think if I'm being honest with myself. What about Breath of the Wild? Oh, Breath of the Wild is the greatest game of all time.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Did you hear about Breath of the Wild 2? I don't think I care. Oh. What was magic about Breath of the Wild was how utterly different it was. I had no temptation whatsoever to download the DLC. Okay. I was just like, I was like, you know when you... That was a great contained experience.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah, you know when you finish a really great book... Yep. And you close the last cover and you kind of sit there and you go, wow. They didn't produce season eight.'m awesome yeah yeah i'm kind of done but i man i put so many hours into breath of the wild like i just i uh i yeah i i i tried to tell myself no final fantasy 6 is still my favorite game but it's just not like breath of the wild final fantasy 6 i, I still adore the characters. But if I go back and I play it as an adult who knows my way through the game,
Starting point is 00:54:12 there's actually not a lot that happens. Whereas, and you know what? I think the same is probably true for CrossCode. CrossCode can get a little grindy at times. Not that much actually happens. But what's great about it is I absolutely adore the characters. I still... There's a strong connection there.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I went back and played some of Morrowind recently. Yeah. Because Morrowind's the game that I've always had as my favorite game. And I think it still is, but... But? I don't think I would have the time or the patience now to play it the way you did yes and to get out of it what you did yes that makes sense i don't think i could extract the experience i had with morowind anymore which makes me really sad but like you done
Starting point is 00:54:58 grown up yeah to a certain degree because like the thing with morowind was i the game starts they give you this like package thing and morrowind was i the game starts they give you this like package thing and you're supposed to go give it to someone and it was worth something so i just sold it all the time and that was what started the main quest so i actually really thoroughly enjoyed the game for like months before i realized the game had a main quest yeah and i was like oh god and then this unlocked this whole other part of the game. And it was very interesting to wander and explore. And I don't have the, now I'm like, I have time to play a game.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I must extract enjoyment out of game as much as possible. Not just, I'm going to go enjoy myself. And that's what was so magical about Breath of the Wild to me. So most of the games that i've loved a lot have been because i love the characters like even some of the less popular final fantasies um i actually no most of them the characters are kind of cliche i really loved six um uh so it's because i love the characters um and that was something that was a little bit different for breath of the wild because I loved the exploration, not the, like, the Link character is utterly uninteresting to me.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Okay. There's not much to him. No. No. The Zelda character is, she might as well be Princess Peach. They are completely interchangeable to me they're like um a damsel in distress but over the years because uh you know empowerment they have become strong independent women and that's great but that doesn't that's still completely two-dimensional and you know what i'm sure that there's like supplementary manga or something like sure yeah some type of additional some people
Starting point is 00:56:56 only play the games and you gotta you gotta if you read the lore you gotta give me something to work with here like link is literally a silent protagonist um and and that's that's a storytelling mechanism but but what was magical about breath of the wild was definitely the exploration and what i usually love about games is the characters so it's just it's hard for me to admit that my favorite game is not one that's about the characters especially because i would never go and explore a world that i've already explored but i might go have a story retold to me about characters that i love so for me breath of the wild has no replay value whereas i have played final fantasy 6 through to the end at least half a dozen times and like and almost through probably 20 times to reaffirm all of these points yeah it's on the same map oof yeah yeah there's no
Starting point is 00:57:49 way it's like effectively and you said i wouldn't buy a dlc they were they in in one of their interviews they basically said it would have made sense to be a dlc if dlcs were conventionally seen as like multitudes bigger than what they are so it's an expansion pack it's basically we're back to that yeah it will okay they're saying it's like the majora's mask i never played majora's mask me neither actually so i don't know how accurate this is but the majora's mask to ocarina of time except it's on the same map it's an expansion pack even though yeah it's like a really big expansion pack yeah but the expansion packs are really big. Yeah, Frozen Throne is huge. Frozen Throne, Warcraft 3.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Oh, no, I was going further back than that. I was actually going to use Warcraft 2. I'm trying to remember. Don't tell me, don't tell me. It's Warcraft 2, Tides of Darkness, Beyond the Dark Portal. Yeah. It's Beyond the Dark Portal. The Beyond the Dark Portal campaign is just as long as the Tides of Darkness campaign.
Starting point is 00:58:43 If I remember correctly, Frozen Throne campaign is just as long. It's just as long. You're right, it is. And it completely overhauls and changes the game, but it's the same sort of thing. And Supreme Commander's expansion pack had a campaign that was just as long and added a race. It's an expansion pack! We just don't call them that anymore, I guess.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Is someone dying? Oh, it's possible. Alright, time for... Actually, was there anything else you really wanted to hit today? Because otherwise I was going to do some super chats. We should maybe talk about LTX because there's a thingy now. Oh, right. There's like a ton of LTX news.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Yeah. Okay, VRRC car is going to include four cars but isn't a race anymore. It's now a first-person view experience. So we're designing the tracks, and it'll include some fun little Easter eggs for you guys to find. That's probably a good idea. We'll be playing Robo Recall, Vacation Simulator, and Winlands 2 at the VR Experience booth. It will include eight HTC Vibes, a big step up from last year's three Vibes. Yeah. And because we couldn't find a sponsor for it. I have to buy them
Starting point is 00:59:49 Yeah One of them is gonna be my personal vibe because I don't say I think you guys have Still I don't think so. I don't know where it is. Oh, I don't think we have it sure I don't know. I'm not accusing. Okay, okay either way if it's there it'll be there we have new guests Der Bauer's gonna be there oh sweet Roman's coming uh Steve from Memory Express and the Hardware Canucks team so Eber and Dimitri are gonna be there nice yeah so we have we are spending so much money a lot and even more apparently um BYoc seat selection is open if you have a byoc ticket head to dreamhack forward slash tickets forward slash ltx 19 to do that colton is slowly processing ltx volunteers
Starting point is 01:00:32 one by one if you signed up and followed the instructions please stand by and you can see below our main stage planned events oh wow okay panel amd. Panel, PC do's and don'ts. Industry insights with MSI, that's gonna be great. We're gonna have Cliff out. Oh, interesting. Yep, so, and I already sent him a lot of my questions. Like, I'm gonna be like, yeah, tell me who's hard to work with.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Should be good. He's pretty sure he's gonna get fired. We're gonna be playing like a family feud sort of funny thing. And then we've got a panel, running a YouTube business, the early years. That should be an interesting one. Now then we've got a panel. Running a YouTube business. The early years. That should be an interesting one.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Now, I'm not the only one on all these panels. We're actually going to be leaning on some of our creators to come up and help us with these. Twitter slash float playing Q&A with LMG part one and two is at 11.30 on the second day. World of Warships tournament with Linus. Never played the game, so that'll be interesting sweet apparently i get it i get like a stacked like special ship that's like uh ltd colored and stuff what so like people so i because i don't know how to play the game i have kind of an advantage so i don't know it might be interesting uh pc versus mac panel uh budget versus performance panel award award ceremony, and a farewell.
Starting point is 01:01:48 MSI is apparently sending us 20 little lucky dragons to sell and build on the floor plan. Oh, my goodness, we're showing the floor plan! Look at all the updates today. Those BYOC seats. Oh, dang. Yeah, we expanded it. Heck, yeah. Okay, so here's what we're looking at.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Oh, my goodness. This is a little small. I can't read all this stuff. It's gigantic though. So this is 590 BYOC seats. This is PC free play where the systems are already there. Uh, VIP slash staff slash crew BYOC. So that's where you'll be Luke.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Okay. Um, here's a stream zone. So this is all kind of like dream hacky things. Then we've got the stage. Then over here, you've got LTX. And I'm having a hard time reading this. So the VIP staff crew BOIC, that's float plane is going to be in there as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. And then over here is the indie zone. I believe this is the case toss. I can't read any of this stuff, but maybe it's, I don't know. It's super awesome. Oh, oh yes so this is a problem um free geek huh is uh actually kind of in trouble um so we just wanted to take a moment to shout them out big time for being such an amazing supporter of ltx um without them we wouldn't
Starting point is 01:03:04 have been able to get the hundreds of dead motherboards to use as the motherboard house of cards booth. They provided 20 plus cases to throw at the infamous case toss. They sourced 20 computers for us to use in the PC build workshop, like dead components that people can learn to assemble. Sent us a number of unique motherboards
Starting point is 01:03:19 for the Guess That Motherboard booth. A lot of this would have been difficult, if not impossible to do without them. So Free Geek is a Vancouver-based non-profit community organization that reuses and recycles donated electronics. They offer education and job skills training and provide free or low-cost computers to the public.
Starting point is 01:03:37 They've been an integral part of the event, and they're in a bit of a tough spot right now because recycling rates are falling and you know what, not too much details but we'd really appreciate your guys' help to help them keep their doors open. What they do is kind of important so it's freegeekvancouver.org
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Starting point is 01:04:47 Yeah. All right. So, guys, go check it out. That's freegeekvancouver.org. And we should go ahead and call it some super chats. Yeah. Amari says, finally, YouTube premium. Got sick of ads.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Good stuff. And thank you for the $2. Jamaican, you too. Presumably Logan, FrozenSniper, you guys too. Sup, Spencer. Connor says, you guys too. Sup, Spencer? Connor says, what were you doing with Gavin? Couple of really cool things. So Gavin from Slow Mo Guys is here.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I think Fullplane knows what you're doing. No, they don't. That video's not up yet. Oh. So we did a couple of things. We determined once and for all whether 240 hertz monitors have an advantage over 60 hertz for gamers oh yeah and in a bunch of really interesting ways so does it affect reaction time does it affect your kill rate does it affect the way that you aim so we used slow motion 1000 frame per second footage to watch how a gamer reacts at 60 hertz
Starting point is 01:05:48 versus 240 did you watch ed we did okay good oh he's a lot better at 240 hertz but i won't spoil anything else about it because the findings with me and gavin were also interesting but in completely different ways yeah i was i was i was hoping you were doing a spectrum, but if you weren't doing a spectrum, I was hoping it was Ed. We were. Yeah. So we had Ed at the top, at the top end. We had Gavin as more of like a casual, and then we had me as sort of like, I used to
Starting point is 01:06:15 be okay, I guess. You're good at games. My aim is fantastic, actually. My spread was pretty close to Ed's. Wow. But. What game? aim is fantastic actually my spread was pretty close to ed's wow but um what game my my kill time was much higher uh we used cs go with an auto snipe okay uh and then we had uh we had a target basically at an at an undetermined time uh well the reason for the auto snipe was we wanted to give the...
Starting point is 01:06:46 If you got a headshot, you took him down in one... We told everyone to go for headshots. But if you hit a body shot, we wanted it to be possible to take down the target in the time that you had while they ran across the hallway. So you basically had to... You had a pixel that you had to point at, and then you didn't know when it was going to come,
Starting point is 01:07:03 and you had to take him out as fast as you could as he ran across so interesting yeah really really cool test and then uh what we did with the knowledge that we gained from working with gavin was we produced a second video the next day determining once and for all whether wireless mice are slower. So we devised a mechanism to hit a mouse, complete a circuit, light up a light to show us the exact moment that they make contact, and then we were able to use one millisecond frames at 1,000 frames per second to see how long it takes the crosshair on the monitor behind it to start to move.
Starting point is 01:07:46 So we weren't able to actually determine down to one millisecond which mouse was faster because we don't have the equipment to measure that. We can't intercept the signal from the mouse. But we were able to tell if any monitor on the market could possibly give you the feedback fast enough that you could detect a difference yeah and uh it's going to be a really really interesting video um so that's what i was doing with gavin commissioner says if the 64 core threadripper was cheap not sure where you're
Starting point is 01:08:16 going with that because it sure as heck won't be uh sup jason will briggs westerly uh derrick youtube premium gives free super chats. I think that's what, like, most of this is. Zach says, put it towards some tooling for the mill. Oh, man, that workshop is going to be freaking awesome. See Bart. Hashtag save channel super fun. 20 bucks.
Starting point is 01:08:37 If only it were that simple. If only it was 20 bucks. You know what's really funny? It is not impossible that channel Superfun could end up resurrected as part of this diversification push. We'll see. It's not dead. It's just online support.
Starting point is 01:08:53 You want to know a fun little fact here? Remember the pigeon? The pigeon? I think it's called a pigeon. Apple Pigeon Console. Pippin. Oh, the Pipp the pippin yeah yeah the at mark it's at it's probably paid for itself by now has it it's like three million views or something really yeah how much did we pay for that stupid thing again i think it was 500 bucks oh oh can literally buy like a brand new xbox one x for what we paid for it the worst console and like a game and some
Starting point is 01:09:26 controllers Yeah, three million views hell yeah sup Nick Oh, oh, he wants us to talk about the merch so this this is our hot item right now This hoodie is finally for sale. Yeah, did you get one yet? Okay? Oh, really? Yeah, did you get one yet? Okay? Oh? Really ouch Nick is my savior because my luggage was lost you lost it No, I did not know an airline did Yeah An airline did a hundred percent okay, and my sweater was in there, but Nick Nick swooped in and got me
Starting point is 01:10:01 No, all right, so this is the one he did Nick swooped in and got me another one. All right, so this is the one. He did. But either way. This is the one that's, like, the hot seller on the store right now. It's lttstore.com. It's got, like, a little logo here. It's got the phone pocket on this side that holds even really big phones.
Starting point is 01:10:18 This is an early prototype. So, actually, we had enlarged the phone pocket after this one because it didn't really fit very well. It was hard to get it in and out. Also, this one, see how yours goes a little bit lower? We made it about an inch longer because this is an early one because it was always riding up on me like that. I also have a rather tall torso, and it fits on me perfectly fine.
Starting point is 01:10:41 I know some people ask about how different fitting things work. So yeah. We changed the zipper to YKK instead of whatever this is. That's good. Yeah. So we made some quality and some wearability improvements. That's why these projects take so long because you're sending feedback. You're waiting for new samples.
Starting point is 01:11:01 You're sending more feedback. You're waiting for new samples. If it was just as simple as like getting a shirt printed this merch stuff would have paid for itself ages ago as it is We're okay, so we're making money on every item We sell but we're deep in the red in terms of the total investment that we put in but honestly, I'm so much happier Wearing our stuff. Okay Party the the stuff I was most upset about losing in that luggage, okay, one random little tidbit, I lost literally every single pair of bottoms that I own,
Starting point is 01:11:31 except for these shorts that I'm wearing in that luggage. Wow, bummer. Because I don't have very many bottoms. It's going to take you a long time to get free bottoms to replace those bottoms, because I know you won't pay for them. That's why I only had that many. I know. It's because those are the same jeans I've had for like seven years.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I believe you. But, okay, as an outside source, the shirts are insanely comfortable. The Constellation one is actually my favorite shirt, which is also gone now. It's out of stock right now. We're working on getting more. The problem is we can't get that color of shirt. And so we're working on an overseas source. But unless it meets the standard of the ones
Starting point is 01:12:06 that we are using now we are just we'd rather be completely out of stock and not sell anything than compromise anymore i'm just tired of it and it's insane i'm just going to step in again still outside source your shirts are 20 bucks yeah basically no influencer shirts are 20 bucks right now 20 a shirt is the like Five to ten years ago pricing for most of this kind of stuff Which is pretty awesome the shirts feel great the printing is great the sweaters are thin yeah, which is usually bad But it's not no it's like it's like a French terry. Yeah, like it's not like a cheap thin It's I haven't had a sweater like this before so every thin sweater that I've had sucked
Starting point is 01:12:45 This one's fantastic. I slept with it over my face when I didn't have another option while I was in Taiwan It was great, and then it's gone, but I was really sad I got a new one. We're trying to we're trying to keep the pricing reasonable That's like yeah the big sixty bucks for a sweater again. It's sweaters are kind of expensive But it takes us a long time to make this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It is what it is. Jesus, Luke, go buy some pants.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Well, I have to now. Okay? So I will. Whatever. Maybe we'll start. Lloyd really wants to do joggers. Joggers would be dope. I don't really like them, though.
Starting point is 01:13:18 So my new thing with the merch, actually, I listened to a talk from Chris Jenner, of all people. You know what? You can say what you want about the content but you have to respect the business savvy and she was like look focus focus on what you actually are passionate about and it's a lot harder to screw up and so I'm going you know so I so I got back to the office, and I canceled the joggers project because I don't care about them. Okay. And I was like, nope, we're going to do stuff that, like, I care about a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:53 So the underwear that's coming, it's really nice. Okay, good, because I lost also a very high percentage of my underwear. The underwear. Fairly soon, literally my entire wardrobe is just going to be LTT stuff. The underwear is sweet. Which I'm okay with. It's, like, really nice. Yeah, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Anyway. Connor says, can you recommend a battery pack that can power a USB-C powered laptop? I don't know. Anything from, like, Anchor stuff is pretty... Anchor. Yeah. Anchor. Just go Anchor, I guess.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Weekend Gaming Nerds. Wow. We're getting so many free Super Chats. Guys, I guess. Weekend Gaming Nerds. Wow, we're getting so many free Super Chats. Guys, thank you. Twigs, Darkstalker, Azaril, Lee Gamer, Matt, Aaron, Marcos. Also, this is the new CPU shirt, and it's super cool. Yeah. I like that it doesn't really look like tech. Yeah, but you can also identify it.
Starting point is 01:14:48 DistroTube, this show is cool. Have you guys ever considered switching to GNU slash Linux? Find out more about free software freedom and the new project at GNU.org. Oh, thank you. Sweet. We had never heard of that. Let me get right on that for our Adobe Premiere editing workflow. Thank you. Sweet. We had never heard of that.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Let me get right on that for our Adobe Premiere editing workflow. I'm not trying to be a hater. We use Linux where it makes sense, like our storage servers, for example. All of Luke's float plane crap runs on Linux. But we're not ready to advocate switching to Linux for a media production environment. It's not a thing yet. And before you send another super chat, which I appreciate, by the way, about DaVinci Resolve,
Starting point is 01:15:32 yes, we're aware of it, but it doesn't do everything. Michael, Freddie, Flazar, Lachlan, Danny, Arash, thank you very much Midland says good evening guys wondering if there's a way to clone an internal SSD to an internal software raid 1 SSD array that is A tremendous question, and I have actually Tried to figure out how to do it. I don't know why with the Intel raid when you create it. You can't just say Hey All of that that drive, that one's good. All of that to the other one too. You have to clear them when you create it. And it seems like the kind of thing that I do know that there are values that you write when you create a RAID
Starting point is 01:16:21 that kind of tie the two together. It just seems like the kind of thing that someone over the last couple of decades might have engineered a solution to by now. As far as I'm aware, I don't know of a way to do it. I'm sorry. Rehan says, the search on Floatplane is there,
Starting point is 01:16:39 but doesn't seem to be effective. Yeah, I know. They're working on it. Yep. There's actually like a fix for it, but it's just not up yet uh lorenz sorry don't think about quitting i really miss you lately on the channel don't worry i'm not i'm not going anywhere uh qwerty to be honest i love all the other staff but if you're
Starting point is 01:16:55 done i am too i like having the variety but i'm here for you well i i appreciate that but also i appreciate the support for the rest of the staff because they're awesome. Niche requests podcasts. Interesting. Ben Burrell says, water-cool the new Mac Pro. We're going to create our own new Mac Pro. This is a podcast. Yeah, this is a podcast, by the way. We already have a podcast.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Jacksonville said story-driven podcasts. No. What? Like Reply All. Watching your rig upgrade. Thunderbolt config. Is it still in the closet? Okay. So i had to
Starting point is 01:17:26 rip the gigabyte board back out that night and put my old board back in because i don't have a thunderbolt 3 to thunderbolt 2 adapter so really sad story especially because brandon and i stayed late to finish that video oh no so i ended up reusing that motherboard in a you know what i won't spoil it but there's more videos coming up that narrative is far from done uh now bill says hey linus you're paying too much attention to the feedback great to have the feedback but do what you like man we enjoy seeing you stop do the stuff you enjoy so that's good that's important but also i do need to take feedback because it does matter too it's just like filtering it that's the key uh dave just because i want to one-up a rash sends 24.99 oh thanks dave uh luke needs a chair that says at float plane
Starting point is 01:18:11 he does oh yeah that'd be cool what a terrific point um okay and in like blue jesus franco says uh youtube gave me this so here you go Game breaker says yo Linus. What did I miss? I only joined like a minute ago Are you for real bro? We're just gonna recap the whole the whole land show You know what you can't blame a guy for trying You gotta respect that at least at least you took a shot. You gotta try things. Yeah, but yeah, you know what? Yeah. Shoot for the moon, right? Because if you miss, then it might come down on an old lady somewhere.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Yeah. Um, thanks, Yanai. Jake says, would love a vlog channel. Nope. I'm out. I'm done. I'm telling you, man done I'm telling you man I'm telling you man I actually have a pretty good vlog channel idea I don't have time to do it right now though But it's like it's pretty different It's pretty different
Starting point is 01:19:14 Oh wow I don't know if I can get through all these Whenever we do Super chats like earlier in the show And people are like oh wow they're actually going to remember super chats today, we get a bunch of them and then we can't finish them. I would strongly recommend if you guys want to like do super chats, do them earlier in the show because then we'll get to those ones
Starting point is 01:19:34 first. If we don't. Ice Xero says, what do you think about this setup? An Epic 7401P with 64 gigs of DDR4 ECC, 5 GTX 1080s and a 4x480 gig SSD on an MZ31AR0 motherboard. Sounds like a machine learning setup or something.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Yeah, be careful. Weird config. What you're inviting is config feedback from everyone. Oh, yeah. Oh, right. I'm sorry. I don't do that. Go post on the new builds section of the forum.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yes. Thank you, Luke. Good call. No problem. I do this stuff that. Go post on the new builds section of the forum. Yes. Thank you, Luke. Good call. No problem. I do this stuff sometimes. Okay. All right. Make sure.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Okay. Yeah, and we're done. Bye, guys. Bye. See you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. See ya. Whoops.
Starting point is 01:20:21 There we go. I'm so upset that it's still not up. I am Blur. Says, I have two friends that are 4XL and can't ever find YouTube merch that fits. I think right now we only go up to 3XL, guys. Man, we could try. But what I'll say is that even 3XL,
Starting point is 01:20:45 a lot of the merch that we source is like, the really nice shirts that we're talking about, how great they are, are not available in that size. So even our 3XL, I believe, is a different shirt. Oh, really? Yeah. All right. Bye for real.

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